Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Michael Antoniades, President of UChicago Medicine Ingalls Memorial Hospital
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- 0:02This is where health care leadership comes together.
- 0:04Becker's sixteenth annual meeting brings more than 3,500
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- 0:29in Chicago.
- 0:32This is Laura Dierdo with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:34podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:36Mike Antoniades, president of UChicago Medicine Ingalls Memorial
- 0:40Hospital. Mike, it's a pleasure to have you
- 0:42on the podcast today.
- 0:43Good morning, Laura, and happy New Year, and
- 0:45a pleasure to be back on.
- 0:47Absolutely. Well, you know, I I'm excited for
- 0:50our conversation because I think there's so much
- 0:52happening in health care today and, you know,
- 0:54looking forward to learning more about how you're
- 0:56thinking about 2026.
- 0:57But before we do that, can you introduce
- 0:59yourself for those who are just joining the
- 1:01Becker's Healthcare podcast and tell us a little
- 1:03bit more about your organization?
- 1:05Sure. Mike Antoniades,
- 1:07as you mentioned, I'm the president of, Engels
- 1:09Memorial, which is part of the University of
- 1:11Chicago Health System.
- 1:13Now I've been here for just about three
- 1:15years. You know, we and I spoke,
- 1:17I think, early in my tenure here,
- 1:20about two and a half years ago. So
- 1:22the University of Chicago Health System is obviously
- 1:25a a a globally recognized name,
- 1:27and, Ingalls Memorial serves the Southland
- 1:31Of Chicago. It's a Chicago suburb about twenty
- 1:33minutes south.
- 1:35We have a population of approximately 250,000,
- 1:39people that we serve in our primary service
- 1:41area.
- 1:42We have been here for over a hundred
- 1:43years, a hundred and two years, in fact,
- 1:45heading into our a hundred and third year.
- 1:48And we merged with the University of Chicago
- 1:50Health System.
- 1:52This year will be our tenth year anniversary.
- 1:54Later this year, you know, October, we're gonna
- 1:55celebrate ten years. And it's been,
- 1:58just an incredible experience, and we're very grateful
- 2:01that we're part of
- 2:02such a well known,
- 2:04global health system, really,
- 2:06and we can bring that kind of care,
- 2:09to the communities in the Southland.
- 2:12I love that. And, you know, it's so
- 2:14helpful to have that kind of academic affiliation,
- 2:16I'm sure, to bring that into the communities
- 2:18locally,
- 2:19that you're
- 2:21providing health care for in in really,
- 2:23serving in a important way. Now when you
- 2:26think about twenty twenty five in the last
- 2:28year or so, what was the most important
- 2:31initiative you led? What did you do, and
- 2:32what were the results?
- 2:34Yeah. We had a a lot of activity
- 2:36taking place, certainly in 2025
- 2:38as we, I guess, most health care institutions
- 2:40have.
- 2:41I think from a thematic perspective,
- 2:44it's about integration.
- 2:45As you mentioned, you know, being part of
- 2:47an academic health system, the value of that
- 2:50is you bring that level of care,
- 2:53that level of research, and that level of
- 2:55academia
- 2:56into the communities where,
- 2:58hospitals like Ingalls Memorial,
- 3:01lives and serves.
- 3:03So we had a lot of activity around
- 3:05integration.
- 3:06We grew and introduced a lot of different
- 3:08clinical programs in behavioral health, in surgery,
- 3:12and in patient rehab,
- 3:14in a lot of medical specialties, in primary
- 3:16care. We had a lot of activity around
- 3:17that, and we had a great year that
- 3:19way.
- 3:20And one of the programs that I'm gonna
- 3:22highlight,
- 3:23which is very close to home and it's
- 3:25very important for the Southland, but it also
- 3:27applies to many other communities across the country,
- 3:29we fully integrated
- 3:32our maternal services,
- 3:34with
- 3:35the academic medical center.
- 3:37And
- 3:38the reason for that is
- 3:40as it's been well published, and Chicago is
- 3:43not an exception to this. There are a
- 3:45lot of disparities around maternal health
- 3:48and infant mortality,
- 3:50and we saw that as an area where
- 3:52we really wanted to pay special attention to
- 3:55it. We are a South Side organization.
- 3:58Hyde Park is in the South Side Of
- 3:59Chicago.
- 4:00Engle's is in the Southern part of the
- 4:02South Side Of Chicago.
- 4:04So last year,
- 4:05we,
- 4:06doubled down and invested in building
- 4:09a really strong foundation around OB services and
- 4:12GYN services
- 4:13to serve this area.
- 4:15We completely integrated
- 4:17with the academic medical center. So under the
- 4:20leadership of the chair, doctor Lingau, we've been
- 4:22able to recruit over seven specialists and general
- 4:26OB,
- 4:27physicians.
- 4:28We have completed all that recruitment despite the
- 4:31shortages in physicians,
- 4:33and we just opened our clinic a couple
- 4:36of weeks ago right before Christmas,
- 4:38where we're introducing specialty GYN services, both on
- 4:41college as well as general GYN services,
- 4:44as well as,
- 4:45OB services across our campus. So we're really
- 4:49excited because we really believe we can make
- 4:51a dent
- 4:52in the significant disparities that exist,
- 4:55in the South Side Of Chicago, particularly,
- 4:58for young black women,
- 5:01when they're giving birth.
- 5:03Absolutely. Wow. That is so helpful to know,
- 5:05and what a critical service to have, especially
- 5:08as you mentioned in South Side Of Chicago
- 5:09where, you know, health care isn't always accessible,
- 5:12to be able to have that for women
- 5:15as they're going through the pregnancy process and
- 5:17giving birth and everything they else that they
- 5:19need in women's services.
- 5:21And especially when you look at OB GYN,
- 5:23I know there's so many hospitals
- 5:25across the country that are trying to figure
- 5:27out how to
- 5:28rebuild their programs or or relaunch some of
- 5:31these different types of services in,
- 5:33communities that, you know,
- 5:35are
- 5:36may not have access to that care. And
- 5:38so what during that process of relaunching and
- 5:41building,
- 5:42what was critical for you? What were the
- 5:44steps that, helped you be able to do
- 5:47that, and really bring that to fruition?
- 5:50Well, it is who we are. Right? It's
- 5:52core to our mission to care for these
- 5:54communities, and
- 5:56the value that organizations like us, like nonprofits,
- 5:59bring to these communities is we provide services
- 6:02when services are not typically available. As you
- 6:05said, access is just not easily accessible.
- 6:08So, we we had a program. We've had
- 6:10a program here for many, many decades.
- 6:14And, you know, unlike some of our competitors
- 6:16who decided to exit that those programs, we
- 6:19decided
- 6:19that part of who we are is we
- 6:22improve the outcomes of our communities that we
- 6:24serve, and that is an area that needed
- 6:27a lot of attention.
- 6:28So we doubled down and and and really
- 6:31just shown the commitment that we have to
- 6:33the South Side
- 6:35by investing in rebuilding
- 6:38and building a very strong foundation
- 6:41for for the future
- 6:42to serve,
- 6:43the population that, we're aiming to serve through
- 6:46the OB and the GYN services.
- 6:48These are not easy decisions, but it's part
- 6:50of who we are. Like, this is who
- 6:52the University of Chicago is. Along the way,
- 6:54we work with a lot of partners.
- 6:56So we partner with, the federally qualified health
- 6:59centers. One of them is literally across the
- 7:02street from us, Family Christian.
- 7:04We just,
- 7:06are in the process of partnering with Ann
- 7:08Martha's and some other,
- 7:10federally qualified health centers because a lot of,
- 7:13these patients seek access in the FQHCs.
- 7:16So partnering with the FQHCs just make it
- 7:18easier
- 7:19for those patients to access our hospital, to
- 7:22access our care, and to access some of
- 7:24their maternal fetal medicine services and GYN services
- 7:27in additional to OB.
- 7:30That's amazing to hear. You know, and really
- 7:32a huge accomplishment,
- 7:34will make a big difference.
- 7:35Now looking ahead, what are some of your
- 7:37big priorities as well as headwinds for 2026?
- 7:40Yeah. Well, let's talk about priorities. Integration doesn't
- 7:43stop.
- 7:45It's incredibly important for us to continue to
- 7:47find opportunities to integrate it with, to integrate
- 7:51with with Hyde Park and the University of
- 7:53Chicago.
- 7:54It is the value that a health system
- 7:55like that brings.
- 7:57So we have a number of different other
- 7:59programs that we're looking to introduce that we'll
- 8:01be publicizing over the next,
- 8:03few months.
- 8:05And, you know, along the way, we also
- 8:08need to deal with some of the headwinds
- 8:10that we're dealing with, and there's many of
- 8:11them as we know. I think,
- 8:14part of it is to
- 8:17have flexibility
- 8:18in how
- 8:19we look at the future
- 8:21to be able to deal with
- 8:23the many different challenges that we could potentially
- 8:25be facing, both from a workforce shortage perspective,
- 8:28from a physician shortage perspective,
- 8:30from a legislative perspective, right, and some of
- 8:32the other issues that are well published, and
- 8:34I don't have to mention them all now,
- 8:36that in general, health care,
- 8:39hospitals in particular will have to deal with.
- 8:42This is this is all part of a
- 8:44very large menu
- 8:47of both opportunities
- 8:48and challenges
- 8:50that's
- 8:51guiding our thinking,
- 8:53and it's also guiding our strategic plan. I
- 8:56think it's important
- 8:58for you and the listeners to know is
- 9:00challenges will always happen. Right? Headwinds always occur.
- 9:04And
- 9:05organizations
- 9:06like the University of Chicago and just in
- 9:08general, organizations, whether it's in health care or
- 9:10other industries,
- 9:12success really lies in their ability to always
- 9:15have flexibility
- 9:16and always look at the future,
- 9:18not,
- 9:19from a depressed mode, from an opportunity mode.
- 9:22And that's how we're looking at the future.
- 9:23Yes. We know there will be challenges, and
- 9:25we will
- 9:27incorporate those challenges and plans to address them
- 9:30in our strategies. But we are looking long
- 9:32term. We're looking at the next five to
- 9:34ten years for Ingalls Memorial. Where is Ingalls
- 9:37going to be in the next five to
- 9:38ten years? What is the role of the
- 9:40community hospital,
- 9:42both in an academic health system and also
- 9:44in the role that it serves the communities
- 9:46that it serves? What's the role? How is
- 9:48how do we expect community hospitals
- 9:50to be positioned so that they can maximize
- 9:53their value to the communities that we serve?
- 9:56We're looking to introduce a number of new
- 9:58programs
- 9:59to the organization over the next, year plus.
- 10:02We're also looking to introduce teaching.
- 10:04We are going to we're really excited about
- 10:06that because we're gonna be bringing,
- 10:09the teaching mission of the University of Chicago
- 10:12right here at Ingalls,
- 10:13training primary care physicians
- 10:15and internal medicine physicians
- 10:18for generations to come, training them here in
- 10:21their communities, improving access through this training,
- 10:24and by having residents in our organization,
- 10:26improving quality, and then hoping that many of
- 10:29them will choose to make communities like ours
- 10:33their where they build their practices, where they
- 10:36build their careers.
- 10:37So, a lot of exciting things in front
- 10:39of us, but the most important, I think,
- 10:41from a theme perspective is
- 10:44you gotta look at the future.
- 10:46You have to be realistic. You gotta be
- 10:48flexible,
- 10:49but, you can't be defensive about it. You
- 10:51gotta be offensive, and we have an organization
- 10:54that is
- 10:56fully committed
- 10:57in supporting Ingles and supporting the communities that
- 11:00we serve collectively as a health system,
- 11:03so that we can be here in the
- 11:04strongest possible position that we can be.
- 11:07Absolutely. I I love that. And, you know,
- 11:09I I can feel the energy and passion
- 11:11for, being able to serve the community and
- 11:13build this foundation, you know, build the right
- 11:16type of organization that can make the pivots
- 11:19as needed, that can really lean into the
- 11:21teaching mission, the training, as well as,
- 11:24the providing
- 11:26of very, very critical services and care to
- 11:28the community over the next several years.
- 11:31Now I know there's a lot of,
- 11:33great opportunities for building that plan and growth,
- 11:37but also some challenges ahead. What do you
- 11:39think the hardest thing you'll have to do
- 11:40in the coming year will be?
- 11:43Yeah. I think,
- 11:44like many, we need to make sure that
- 11:46we have,
- 11:48solutions and plans around the workforce shortages that
- 11:51exist.
- 11:52It's not easy to find particularly some of
- 11:54the,
- 11:55positions and jobs are really hard to recruit
- 11:58for, and we need them.
- 12:00That also applies for many specialties and physicians
- 12:02in general,
- 12:04because there's a just a national shortage. I
- 12:06think that's so well publicized. I don't need
- 12:08to mention that anymore. So that's always a
- 12:10challenge because a steady workforce
- 12:13provides stability to the organization,
- 12:15provides
- 12:16continuous,
- 12:17quality
- 12:19in in how we serve and then it
- 12:21continues great experience for the patients that we
- 12:23serve.
- 12:24So that's always a top of mind,
- 12:27and that's not an easy one because everybody's
- 12:29looking for the same positions and,
- 12:32for large numbers of employees
- 12:35to stay or, you know, remain within the
- 12:38health care industry.
- 12:39I think the second part is to deal
- 12:41with some of the legislative challenges that are
- 12:43potentially coming ahead.
- 12:45And, those have huge impact on organizations like
- 12:48ours, and that means that safety nets.
- 12:51And, we need to be prepared.
- 12:54We need to have
- 12:55optimism, but at the same time, we need
- 12:57to have a a level of realism,
- 13:00that we will be able to manage through
- 13:01some of these challenges because they can be
- 13:04quite, difficult for us to,
- 13:07to maintain the stability that we really need,
- 13:11to maintain as a safety net hospital in
- 13:13these communities. So that we keep an eyes
- 13:15wide open, and we're planning,
- 13:18multiple different scenarios,
- 13:20just to make sure that we can remain
- 13:22strong as an organization,
- 13:24and as an employer and as a, obviously,
- 13:26as a health care provider for these communities.
- 13:29Absolutely. That, you know, makes a lot of
- 13:31sense. And having that dual position of looking
- 13:34at the workforce shortages wanting to be a
- 13:35great employer as well as expanding and continuing
- 13:38to build on services is critical. I think,
- 13:41especially, you know, when you look at,
- 13:43building up the workforce and strengthening the pipeline,
- 13:46being able to,
- 13:48be a great place to work. Is there
- 13:50anything different that you're doing in the next
- 13:52year, to really,
- 13:54increase those efforts or or things that, trends
- 13:57that you see ahead?
- 13:58Yeah. Obviously, we have to remain competitive, right,
- 14:01from a compensation standpoint.
- 14:04So like everyone else, we're looking at the
- 14:06market to make sure that we don't fall
- 14:07out of market. And I think it's it's
- 14:10it's really,
- 14:12being able to
- 14:13bring across to future candidates and people that
- 14:16are looking for work, certainly here in the
- 14:18Southland,
- 14:19that culture is just as important as everything
- 14:21else. Right? And and we we really spent
- 14:24a lot of time building
- 14:25a
- 14:27strong family oriented
- 14:30community culture,
- 14:31here at at Ingles. It's it's really an
- 14:34important part. When you walk into Ingles,
- 14:38you feel it.
- 14:40You feel the energy. You feel the welcoming.
- 14:43And,
- 14:45we believe that is one of the strengths
- 14:47that has allowed us to really make such
- 14:49a huge impact and inroads,
- 14:51with,
- 14:52workforce development and workforce recruitment
- 14:55over the last three years.
- 14:57But, you know, being part of the University
- 15:00of Chicago,
- 15:01being part of an organization that has,
- 15:04growth aspirations,
- 15:06now and into the future,
- 15:08having opportunities for people to grow beyond what
- 15:10their original or their initial job may be.
- 15:13These are all positives
- 15:15that, we believe, you know, separate us and
- 15:18give us a differentiating factor,
- 15:21with some of the competitors and why,
- 15:23we believe
- 15:24folks come and choose to work with us
- 15:27as opposed to some of the competitors.
- 15:29That's helpful to know. Thank you for digging
- 15:31a bit deeper there. Now before we wrap
- 15:33up, I'm curious. What do you see as
- 15:35being some of the best growth opportunities for
- 15:38the next few years as well?
- 15:40Yeah. No. We have a lot of work
- 15:42that we're doing around that. Obviously, you need
- 15:44to know what your community needs will be.
- 15:47So it always starts there because we're here
- 15:49to serve a community.
- 15:51And so we look at all of the
- 15:52data points around the communities that we serve
- 15:55and, obviously, the kind of changes that we
- 15:57expect both from the standpoint of technology as
- 16:00well as discovery.
- 16:03I think
- 16:04artificial intelligence,
- 16:06will play a key role
- 16:08in anything that we do in the future.
- 16:10So we're spending a lot of attention
- 16:12preparing
- 16:13to maximize,
- 16:15the use of artificial intelligence to support our
- 16:17workforce and to support our physicians,
- 16:20to make it easier for them to work,
- 16:22to reduce burnout,
- 16:24and,
- 16:25to be able to deploy it in a
- 16:26way that is governed
- 16:28and it's organized
- 16:30across the health system. So that's a a
- 16:32major, major,
- 16:34goal and initiative that's that's across our organization,
- 16:38today.
- 16:39You know, we have a number of other
- 16:40programs that we're gonna be introducing.
- 16:42Probably can't share them yet because, you know,
- 16:45we we're not ready yet to go public,
- 16:48but, we're definitely looking to grow areas like
- 16:51behavioral
- 16:52health, surgery,
- 16:53rehab through our partnership with Shirley Ryan AbilityLab
- 16:56has gone really well. So we think there's
- 16:58more opportunity to grow and bring these services
- 17:02closer to home in the Southland
- 17:04as well as a number of other recruitments
- 17:06that are underway. So you'll hear a lot
- 17:08more about that as the year goes on
- 17:09because we're really excited.
- 17:11We're just not ready to go public yet.
- 17:14I got it. Well, we'll definitely keep an
- 17:15eye out for those updates and look forward
- 17:18to learning more. And especially, I know how
- 17:20much technology and digital transformation is making a
- 17:22difference,
- 17:23in the health care space. And so we'll
- 17:25definitely reconnect later this year, and hopefully, we'll
- 17:27be able to, talk through some of these
- 17:29other exciting developments at that time. Well, Mike,
- 17:32thank you so much for joining us on
- 17:33the podcast today. This has been such a
- 17:35fun conversation, and I'm looking forward to seeing
- 17:37you as well in April at our annual
- 17:38meeting. I know you'll be speaking on a
- 17:40panel there, and and so it'll be great
- 17:42to see you as well as many others,
- 17:44be part of that event.
- 17:45Thank you, Laura. I'm looking forward to the
- 17:47April,
- 17:48conference as well. Great talking to you again.