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- 0:00Hard part when you're talking about gold or even the stock market at this point
- 0:04is we're at all time highs. You know when when you've been at a
- 0:08high and then you pull back and then you rally again. You can look
- 0:11at it go okay, there's you can look at the charge where there should
- 0:14be resistance here and there should be support there, and that kind of thing,
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- 0:40now more than ever. Welcome you are watching and listening to the Financial Survival
- 0:49Network. I'm your host, Carrie Lutz. Hey, we're exactly in mid
- 0:54May here. Interesting things are going on with a dollar, copper, oil,
- 0:59gold, and silver, not the least of which our good friend from
- 1:03TF Metals Report dot com, Craighempke is with us now to go through these
- 1:08markets. Greg, Great to see you. So what is going on with
- 1:12these markets here? A lot? How's that? That's just okay, you'd
- 1:17be more vague. You know, it's been a remarkable year so far,
- 1:22especially you know with my focus of the precious metals, we hear the metals
- 1:29have broken out for a number of different reasons. Obviously, everybody wants to
- 1:33narrow it down to one, and I think that's impossible. There's there's probably
- 1:37five or six. But they've broken out before the FED started to cut.
- 1:44You know, we we have fought our way through. I mean, used
- 1:47to go back to the first of the year. Carry market market was anticipating
- 1:53seven rate cuts. All right, where are dollary decks? Was a hurt?
- 1:57Good? Yeah, well that just it. So if you know,
- 2:01we go back and I'm sure we were probably and when I put out my
- 2:05annual forecast back in January, I bet that we probably spoke back then and
- 2:08we talked about how, you know, that's got to come down. There's
- 2:12no way they're cutting rates seven times. That's just not going to happen.
- 2:15And so we have fought our way through, going from seven rate cuts down
- 2:20to like one maybe two dollar inext going from one hundred and one to one
- 2:24hundred and six, and that's back under one oh five yeld of the ten
- 2:28year notes got up by fifty basis points, and yet gold's up some fifteen
- 2:32percent year today. Now maybe I don't know, Maybe it's just gotten way
- 2:37out ahead of itself. I don't know, but I think there's a combination
- 2:39of factors going on here that have driven this. And now you throw on
- 2:43this notion that the economy's rolling over, we're getting into that stagflation you and
- 2:49I have been talking about for four years. We could get another surge higher
- 2:53in the precious metals, relatively similing in that I think would be fun for
- 2:59everyone. If five hundred, Yeah, if you look at the charge,
- 3:01see, that's what's always hard carry, you know, because then you know,
- 3:05I like to look at the charts. I'm not like sure Is Elliott
- 3:07wave guys and all this other jazz. But I do think you combine that
- 3:10with fundamental stuff and it kind of gives you a picture, you know,
- 3:15which way the market is heading. Hard part when you're talking about gold or
- 3:19even the stock market at this point is we're at all time highs. You
- 3:23know, when when you've been at a high and then you pull back and
- 3:25then you rally again. You can look at it go okay, there's you
- 3:29can look at the charge where there should be resistance here and there should be
- 3:31support there, and that kind of thing, because we have history but goals,
- 3:36and it's never been before. Yeah, you're off you know, beyond
- 3:39which there be dragons. Right, You're off the map, and so that
- 3:44makes it difficult. But I do think there's ways you've been kind of project
- 3:49it forward and just just kind of natural sentiment of things, and so yeah,
- 3:54you know, I uh, there will probably be an inclination here from
- 3:59where we are here on the fifteenth of May, there'd be an inclination or
- 4:03an effort made to paint some double tops, so people should be on the
- 4:08lookout for that. You go back to the middle of April, five weeks
- 4:12ago or so, Gold got up to about twenty four to twenty Silver got
- 4:18within a whisker of thirty airs breath. Yeah, yeah, and then you
- 4:24know pulled back you know, some natural resistance there, especially in silver,
- 4:29and now here we are getting back those levels. I would anticipate an effort
- 4:33made to paint the charts with a double top sometime in the next week or
- 4:36two, just as a line of defense for all of these banks that have
- 4:41all of these shorts. I mean again, when you're in an all time
- 4:45high, every short is underwater. Every short ever created is underwater. So
- 4:50that has to be managed. So I would anticipate that. But you know,
- 4:55Powell Terry, when back at the March FMC interviews that he did after
- 5:01that and then again at the May FMC said he is watching the labor market
- 5:06real closely. He knew the thing they hike too late and inflation got away
- 5:12from him. He doesn't want to cut too late, and they have the
- 5:15economy tank and so he has said, and I'm not I got paraphrasing,
- 5:20but I'm anybody canna look this up. He has said repeatedly that if he
- 5:24sets his weakness in the labor market, they will cut. They'll put inflation
- 5:29on the back burner and they'll cut. Well, we're starting to see that
- 5:31that the latest jobs report was weak. Some of the internal stuff over the
- 5:36last couple of weeks has been a week. So if we get now into
- 5:40the summertime and all of a sudden the Fed does cut or start out actively
- 5:45talking about cutting, any double top painting by the banks isn't going to hold.
- 5:48And that's what we'll look for. You that'll be the signal. Hey,
- 5:51So yeah, I don't see where they have any choice. They're going
- 5:55to have to cut and we talked about that, but they want to put
- 5:58it off to the last possible moment. On the other hand, the FED,
- 6:04Powell said Chairman Powell absolutely despises the challenger to the throne and has come
- 6:12out, maybe not on the record, but through leaks as supporting the current
- 6:16occupant of the White House. So I remember one time Alan A. Wilson
- 6:24wrote in Barons he was a longstanding editor Barons. He said, the FED
- 6:30is now doing what it does best, helping to get a president re elected.
- 6:35Yeah, when are they going to fall into that mode? Right?
- 6:40Because they are a political institution, even though they pretend not to be.
- 6:44But everything is political nowadays, no doubt. And that was and I mentioned
- 6:49that forecast for this year. I had to write about that because that's to
- 6:53be expected, right. I mean, even if you think Powell is at
- 6:59the top, is try so hard to be a political and he wears a
- 7:01purple necktie every time you see him in public, right, Yeah, just
- 7:06like mother Yellinois wears that purple pants suit. You know, they're trying to
- 7:10give this subliminal message that they're a combination of red and blue. It's not
- 7:14my mother. So there will be pressure as we go through the summer.
- 7:24It will start. It's already started with Folcahattas and Bernie Sanders at AOC,
- 7:30you know, all talking about, oh, the people need a break,
- 7:32you know, credit card rates you're so high, you know, and all
- 7:35this kind of stuff. The pressure will mount. We've seen now, you
- 7:40know, this uptick back up in the unemployment rate. You know, the
- 7:44job's number, the headline number they always tout, whatever, but the unemployment
- 7:48right is what Powell says he's going to be watching. It ticked down,
- 7:50it ticked back up, it starts trending above four four, four point one,
- 7:55four point two. It'll come and then we'll see how the markets bond
- 8:00to that. They might initially go blonkers. You know, you might get
- 8:03the S and P to surge another eight ten percent or something, and that
- 8:07might be enough to surge gold up to twenty five twenty six hundred, and
- 8:11silver through thirty to thirty five. Then about that time, that might be
- 8:15the time that when everybody's all excited, that we start getting you know,
- 8:18we get a pullback again, but I sure think that. I mean,
- 8:22Paul has told you that hillcut rates if there's any sign of weakness in labor
- 8:26mark, and we're certainly starting to see that weakness where I see in layoffs
- 8:28galore. I think it's been long, but the numbers are all cooked.
- 8:31I mean, you just can't believe any numbers. But right, big news.
- 8:37Copper on the CRIMEX broke five bucks. Hey, it's trading it close
- 8:43to that in the London Metals Exchange. What is your take on it?
- 8:50It's different than mine. Well, I apologize if that little noise came through
- 8:54somebody trying to call me on Skype, So I don't know a fat don't
- 8:58you love it and hear it? We're good good anyway, if I look
- 9:01distracted for a minute. Copper is a very interesting story. We relate this
- 9:07all evently back to silver, right, because silver's banging up against this thirty
- 9:13dollars level which has contained it now for almost four years. Okay, gold
- 9:16broke out of its range back in March and immediately shot more than ten percent
- 9:24higher, right, and it's still up here. Did that break silver out?
- 9:28No? Okay, Well, maybe if gold goes higher it will well
- 9:31what else could break drag silver kicking and screaming a move in copper, because
- 9:35copper and silver at this point are basically I mean, silver is more like
- 9:39copper than it is gold at this moment in history. Yeah, he was
- 9:43a conductor of electricity and everything else still has monetary components that may return at
- 9:50some point. You got people invest in silver. They don't invest in copper,
- 9:54but you get the idea. Okay, I refer back. I mentioned
- 9:58this this forecast I every year. In January of twenty twenty three, in
- 10:05my forecast, I had a whole section on copper because as twenty twenty three
- 10:09began, there were all sorts of analysts and investment banks, even golden Sachs
- 10:15that were saying above ground copper stock piles could be extinct by August, not
- 10:20August this year, August last year. Wow, and copper was going right,
- 10:26and then it isn't never die. They found some I guess what warehouse
- 10:33was it? The lurking in exactly? Well, now hold on, let's
- 10:37fast forward about an extra eight months. Maybe they were all early. Maybe
- 10:43they were all early, because now copper is going through the roof. We're
- 10:46seeing all kinds of sides that kind of I found something on Twitter about some
- 10:52what I kind of now the name has cased me, but some rates that
- 10:56smelters pay for copper con to trade being negative, meaning they're paying for it
- 11:03trying to secure supply. All these different signs that copper is suddenly in a
- 11:09serious supply shortage. So maybe you know, some of these banks that were
- 11:13looking for above ground copper to really be in trouble and supply shortages by late
- 11:18last year, maybe that's now all coming to fruition. The price people should
- 11:22watch, though, is not the COMEX copper price. That's what gets quoted
- 11:28all the time. As we record this earlier today that went to five thirteen
- 11:33a pound and then immediately fell back, like to for eighty five a pound.
- 11:37I mean that's a huge move, went up seven percent and then fell
- 11:39five percent. That's all speculus stuff. There's no copper that gets delivered in
- 11:46New York, just like there's no gold or silver apermarket. Right. If
- 11:52you want to watch the copper price, watch the LME price of London Metals
- 11:56Exchange. That's more of your international benchmark. It's an actual functioning market to
- 12:01actually deliver metal there. That's the one that right now, it's about two
- 12:07hundred dollars a ton. You could do that math and go, okay,
- 12:09well there's two thousand pounds and a ton, so that's five dollars a pound.
- 12:15What the comax price is going to continue to do this kind of stuff?
- 12:18Right in terms of copper, they'll watch that that that tonnage price,
- 12:24it got up to ten thousand dollars, kind of ran into psychological resistance,
- 12:28banged around. It's now really established a foothold above ten thousand. A lot
- 12:33of the big investment banks have moved up their price target and now twelve thousand
- 12:37dollars a ton. Okay, Well, if that's the case, then you
- 12:41could expect that comax copper price to go to five seventy five eighty six dollars
- 12:46all time highs. And now getting back finally to where I started this carry.
- 12:50Yeah, if gold goes higher because of what's Powell's doing all this kind
- 12:54of stuff and goes to say twenty five hundred, and if copper goes to
- 12:56six dollars a pound, Silver's not gonna stay at twenty eight twenty nine,
- 13:01Okay, It's just not. And so when it finally gets drag kicking and
- 13:05screaming through that resistance level at thirty it's a really high likelihood it will go
- 13:09to thirty four, thirty five in relatively short order. That's gonna have big
- 13:13impacts on the mining shares. And that's all something people show. So watch
- 13:16copper closely in the day's head. So so your feeling is that when this
- 13:22thing breaks out, okay, and it will, that it's going to finally
- 13:28take the junior miners with it temporarily at least, yes, you know,
- 13:33and I and I say that temporarily just because of the natural ebb and flow.
- 13:37Right, you and I have discussed the past the clear correlation between not
- 13:43gold and the gold miners or the ets. But right, yeah, you
- 13:50get silver to run to thirty five or thirty six, the miner's gonna go
- 13:52with it. My guess is we will add then, is let's say that
- 14:00plays out of the course of summer, Powell starts cutting rains and get this
- 14:03surge. You know, we get into June July and this happens again.
- 14:07There have been a lot of peaks in the precious metals short term at least
- 14:11that have occurred in the summer months. Okay, this could be another one.
- 14:16It wouldn't surprise me, based on how these things have gone over the
- 14:20decade plus that I've been watching, if it didn't happen again, you know,
- 14:22you get this another big rush forward, and and that now this one
- 14:26finally Silver's into the thirties. Everybody's excited. Here we go, and there's
- 14:30gonna be people all over Twitter talking about silver gonna do. And it will.
- 14:35But my plan will be when that happens to maybe be a little little
- 14:41cautious at that point, because you know how it is. When everybody in
- 14:43this sector gets all excited, that usually is some kind of top yeah,
- 14:48and the sheet and they know how to time it exactly, you know,
- 14:52to bring that price down right, Yeah, and then everybody gets depressed,
- 14:58you know, and think, oh okay. And then again all that's because
- 15:01of the fundamentals, because of the exploding debt. You know, thirty whatever's
- 15:07thirty five trillion down right, two trillion dollars a year at extra debt,
- 15:11the interest on the national debt now a trillion dollars a year, exceeding even
- 15:16defense spending. All that, all of that stuff, yeah, in the
- 15:20end is what then makes it go even higher again. But there will probably
- 15:22be a point, if I'm right about another surge board in the next sixty
- 15:26days, when we'll probably get another pullback. The tree grow to the sky,
- 15:31right, right, not in this current not straight up markets, right.
- 15:35And you know, it's it's important to realize that in addition to all
- 15:41this, we've got a very weak banking sector. They say it's just it's
- 15:46limited just to the community and smaller banks. I don't believe it. And
- 15:52I think that if you would just what Powell said that when employment starts to
- 15:56get affected, if you just say, when mass bank failures are thretned,
- 16:00substitute that, then he's going to cut. He has to cut for that
- 16:04reason alone. Right. So you got employment and you've got a shaky bank
- 16:11sector. Yes, and that's a bad combination, especially in an election year,
- 16:15right, right. And the only way you can pay off or manage
- 16:18the debt is with the cheaper dollars to tomorrow. You paid today's and yesterday's
- 16:22debt with the cheaper dollars of tomorrow. And eventually, again this is not
- 16:27next week, okay or next month, but eventually they're going to go down
- 16:32the path of yelkurve control. Yeah, because they have to. Now.
- 16:34When gold took off again, we started this by like, wow, it
- 16:37took off before the FED even started cutting. On the first of March.
- 16:41It was Friday, the first of March, gold shot forty dollars higher,
- 16:48rose at all time and weekly high and daily high like twenty eighty nine something
- 16:52like that, and then it broke out one hundred dollars higher the next week.
- 16:56What out On the first of March, Fed goon Waller gave us speed
- 17:00each and he said, we want to do a couple of things going forwar,
- 17:03at least what I want to do, he said, I want to
- 17:04roll us out of some of the longer term stuff into the shorter term stuff.
- 17:10Yeah, I'm sure, uninvert deal curve. But then that will also
- 17:14give us room for the next round of QE to buy long term stuff.
- 17:19And everybody went, wait a second, the next round of QE what so
- 17:26what I limited it stopped? When did QE stop? Well, no,
- 17:30exactly, And so what's going to eventually come? I mean, this is
- 17:33a kid. It has to otherwise the whole thing will do this, the
- 17:37banking sector, everything is They're going to be printing money to fund all the
- 17:41ongoing deficits, then they're going to do yield curve control to cap. The
- 17:47Fed will just say we are we are buyers above a certain level. We
- 17:51will always be buyers above three percent or whatever they decide. It's going to
- 17:55be, just like the Bank of Japan has been. And when you get
- 17:57to that point, now, all of a sudden you don't have sharply negative
- 18:00real rates again because of inflation everything else. And that's when you know that's
- 18:06it. Yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, hey, monetization
- 18:08of the debt. That's all that Quey is is just monetizing the debt.
- 18:12Right, But it's a fine line because when you do it too fast,
- 18:18then you undermine confidence and you jack up inflation. Like, hey, why
- 18:25are the headlines in the papers yesterday? PPI experts surprised that PPI came out
- 18:33higher than expected? Right? Who could be surprised by that? I'm only
- 18:37surprised it wasn't higher. Yeah, it's a number, and that's a cook
- 18:41number anyway, right, right, like every every other bit of government data
- 18:47election year, Garry, Yeah, exactly what until this last report a week
- 18:52ago, what every single headline job number had beaten expectations for thirteen out of
- 18:56fourteen months or whatever one was right. Yeah, yeah, I don't think
- 19:00you can believe any of that. Can you go back? And it's not
- 19:03just election here, how many times they have to manage whatever the basket of
- 19:07goods are in CPI anyway to create nice adjustments with stuff and it get it
- 19:14all, It all pieces together in the management of the debt because if you
- 19:18can convince the market that inflation is only two percent, then you will buy
- 19:25treasury bonds at three percent or four percent or whatever because you're getting a positive,
- 19:29real way to return. But if they were to actually report right what
- 19:33inflation really is, no one's gonna buy a treasury at three or four percent
- 19:36except the FED. And that's for that's where we're headed. And that's that's
- 19:40the name of the game. Hey, it's just the whole world is collapsing
- 19:44at once here. You know, it's every plate, it's everywhere, and
- 19:48this really exempt. So you know, when we go back to a gold
- 19:52standard, always said it will be because it's the only option right right,
- 19:56right, And historically that's how the pedge will swings. You know, you
- 20:00begin your your currency begins backed by goals that people have confidence to use it
- 20:06right, great for goods and services, and you hold it because there's got
- 20:10some value that anchor cycle, right, And then the politicians get a hold
- 20:14of it and they want their power, so then they want a more currency
- 20:18for their wars and their social programs and everything else. Eventually you go off
- 20:21the golds Diader like Nixon did, and then you swing all the way over
- 20:23here to where the base things basically worthless, and then nobody wants it.
- 20:27And then all of a sudden you got to get some confidence again, and
- 20:32so it swings back over here and you back it again. And that's that's
- 20:34the direction we're headed. Hey, And wars and bubbles that go together,
- 20:41you know. The whole thing. The South Sea bubble was about paying off
- 20:45the England's war debt. It was a scam to pay it off, and
- 20:48then it turned into a bubble, and then the Louisiana Land purchase all of
- 20:55that. Some bubbles and wars and inflation all go together. But okay,
- 21:00yeah, I just find it really interesting that no matter what happens, the
- 21:06cycles just keep repeating themselves. We never get any smarter, you know,
- 21:12don't we just don't? All right? Then, well, hey, that
- 21:17is it for today. Make sure you go over to greg site TF metals
- 21:21Report dot com and there it is in the in the screen and show.
- 21:27There's a link in the show notes on Financial Survival Network dot com. How
- 21:32much? How much are you getting these days? Because you know Starbucks h
- 21:37the price of Starbucks has gone up. I started a site called Inflation Cafe
- 21:42Inflation dot Cafe where we outline, we highlight all of these stories about inflation.
- 21:49And it got inspired because in Starbucks, my latte has doubled in the
- 21:56past four years. It's ridiculous. And and they've increased the amount of foam.
- 22:02And then their loyalty program. You know, it's loyalty from the customers.
- 22:07Whenever you see these loyalty programs, it's disloyalty from the company. They
- 22:11used to give you one free drink a month. They got rid of that.
- 22:15They used to give me a free drink on my birthday, they got
- 22:18rid of that. They cut back the points. I mean, hey,
- 22:21complete disloyalty. So I thought they were entitled to have a website named after
- 22:27them, and it's the Inflation dot Cafe where dollars go to die. I
- 22:33get I like it. Well, I'm guilty a little bit of that out
- 22:37of my site. I started all this back in twenty ten. Oh my
- 22:41god. I quickly figured out this ad revenue thing and being beholded to Google.
- 22:45Yeah, not a good toa then ain't gonna fly. So in twenty
- 22:51thirteen, and to keep out the trolls, we started charging everybody ten bucks
- 22:55a month. It's currently fifteen, so it's up fifty percent. But over
- 23:00the last eleven years, that's not bad. That's pretty good. I think
- 23:04you have aren't even to what's happened at Starbucks, right, And if I
- 23:10could look, I just tell people everybody knows stuff's not free, right,
- 23:12Fifteen dollars about what you spend maybe for a magazine subscription, you know,
- 23:17or to the website of your favorite sports team or whatever. But I say
- 23:22this all the time. My site's different. Man, we keep track of
- 23:26everything. But it's not just me. It's everybody on the site that's keeping
- 23:30track of everything too. It's a time like this, man, you need
- 23:33as much community. I had boots on the ground as you can. And
- 23:38you can't count on your neighbor or the people you know, because they're all
- 23:41running out of their head in the sand trying to keep track of their old
- 23:44lives. But you can come to t F Metals Report. You can find
- 23:45a whole community of people looking out for each other, so and so for
- 23:51fifteen bucks a month. That's a pretty good deal, absolutely all right.
- 23:53Links in the show notes. Make sure you sign up for our free newsletter,
- 23:56Craig's got one as well, Financial Survival at work dot com. Craig,
- 24:00We'll talk to you in a month or two, or when I promise
- 24:03you that some goal breaks twenty five hundred will get you on that day.
- 24:07Okay here alright, he sounds like a deal. Thanks. That always a
- 24:11pleasure. Thanks for listening to carry Letz's Financial Survival Network, your solution to
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