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Angels trade deadline plans · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: I think the Angels as a whole need to be
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Speaker 1: thinking a lot differently about their young players and about
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Speaker 1: building as an organization and being patient in that process
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Speaker 1: in a way that they just aren't right now.
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Speaker 2: Hey, we've got the athletic Sam Blum joining us right
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Speaker 2: now to talk a little Angels balls. This team is
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Speaker 2: still involved in the wildcard picture right now, and being
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Speaker 2: that it's July and we're almost at the trade deadline. Sam,
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Speaker 2: good to see you, by the way, I have to
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Speaker 2: start there. Do you think that the Angels will do
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Speaker 2: a little buying if they're in a similar spot now
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Speaker 2: to where they are two weeks from now.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, I wouldn't. That wouldn't surprise me at all. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if that some what they should do. I mean,
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Speaker 1: if you look at the aoilid card picture, like the
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Speaker 1: three games out right now, but they're I think tied
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Speaker 1: with like four other teams that have pretty much the
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Speaker 1: exact same record, and I think, you know, the Red
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Speaker 1: Sox and the Mariners are tied for the actual spot
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Speaker 1: ahead of them, So they're really working with like five
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Speaker 1: or six other teams. You know. I don't think their
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Speaker 1: chances are amazing, but they're not out of it, and
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Speaker 1: we all know how the Angels operate, right, Like, they'll
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Speaker 1: be aggressive, you know that they never think about rebuilding
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Speaker 1: like there if they have a chance, and it's hard
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Speaker 1: to blame them, and they have them to the playoffs
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Speaker 1: in eleven years. If you if you have a chance,
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Speaker 1: it's you almost feel like you should take it. But
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Speaker 1: at the same time, I mean, we saw the same
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Speaker 1: mistake they made two years ago by by going all
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Speaker 1: in and you know, instead of subtracting there and maybe
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Speaker 1: being in a better position right now, Uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: they decided to add and are in the spot they're in, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of fighting for a playoff spot and
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Speaker 1: over you know, I guess exceeding expectations, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: in certain ways this season. So yeah, I think they
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Speaker 1: might if they're in this position. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: that means they should. You know, there's also scenarios where
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Speaker 1: they can kind of, you know, be a little bit
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Speaker 1: nuanced and maybe buying and smelling in certain different areas.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm my guess is they would be aggressive
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Speaker 1: if they're within three games of the playoffs spot.
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Speaker 2: So I think this is a very different case from
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Speaker 2: a few years ago. I mean, you've got Otani there
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Speaker 2: at the finish line. Teams would offer a ton set
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Speaker 2: their franchise back a bit. I can only imagine if
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Speaker 2: they were able to land Jackson Merrill, who was apparently
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Speaker 2: in talks when they were discussing a trade option with
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Speaker 2: the Padres. Fast forwarding to now, Sam, do you think
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Speaker 2: the fact that the team hasn't been in the playoffs
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Speaker 2: for what over a decade at this point pushes them
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Speaker 2: to get a little more aggressive and take the chance
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Speaker 2: just because they are in the mix right now. The
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Speaker 2: American League, I think has been down over the past
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Speaker 2: couple of years. It still seems to be the case.
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Speaker 2: And don't you think that it would be a win
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Speaker 2: even if they get into a wild card and don't
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Speaker 2: win a game, but just to crack the playoffs with
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Speaker 2: the roster that they have and kind of send a
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Speaker 2: message that we're trying to get back on the winning
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Speaker 2: side of things one hundred percent.
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Speaker 1: If they can get into the wildcard win or lose
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Speaker 1: like that, you've this would be a map. I mean,
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Speaker 1: they lost ninety nine games last year, so this would
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Speaker 1: be an amazing turnaround if that happens. I think the
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Speaker 1: issue that you kind of have to grapple with here
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Speaker 1: is I mean, at least according to like Fangrafts, they
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Speaker 1: have about like a three to four percent chance of
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Speaker 1: even doing that. So I just to me, you got
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Speaker 1: to be you got to be smart about it. You
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Speaker 1: got to be thinking about your future. They don't have
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Speaker 1: a ton of people to trade unless they want to
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Speaker 1: get like really aggressive in trade like a Joe Adell
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Speaker 1: or a Redebt Meers whose values are significantly up for
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Speaker 1: when they were maybe like a month or two ago.
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Speaker 1: They could they could go down that route, although I'd
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Speaker 1: be very surprised if they do ultimately, Like the guys
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Speaker 1: they really have are you know, like a Luis Rahifu
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Speaker 1: is performing better right now, at Euan Monkata who's back healthy.
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Speaker 1: Who you know, a Kenley Jansen who I think part
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Speaker 1: of his value will depend on how much the you know,
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Speaker 1: how much of any of the contract they'll eat. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean they they if they're in that mix, right
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Speaker 1: like if they're right there, I agree with you, like
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Speaker 1: not having been to the playoffs in eleven years, I
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Speaker 1: think the overall mindset of the organization just as you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of their their way that they operate would set
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Speaker 1: would tell me that they're going to be aggressive if
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Speaker 1: they have any sort of chance of making the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: I agree with you that two years ago is different,
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Speaker 1: but it also isn't right like it's it's about just
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Speaker 1: the way you look at, you know, your future, the
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Speaker 1: way you look at building as a team. I mean,
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Speaker 1: like they had a better chance to really build two
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Speaker 1: years ago than they do right now. But I do
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Speaker 1: think that what you've seen so far this year is
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Speaker 1: when you get good young players, when they when you
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Speaker 1: put them in a position to succeed, like there's a
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Speaker 1: good chance that they will. You know that a guy
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Speaker 1: like Zach netto No and Shaanowell, you know, those guys
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Speaker 1: have really really, really gotten better this year. I mean
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Speaker 1: Shaanawell in particular, I think is you know, he's not
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Speaker 1: talked about in the same way as maybe some of
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Speaker 1: the other young players, but he's in my opinion, been
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Speaker 1: their their best hitter the season. So it's you know,
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Speaker 1: they you've seen what happens when you when you give
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Speaker 1: when you get good young players, and I think it
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Speaker 1: should be an example to this organization of how they
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Speaker 1: you know, need to be building and how they need
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Speaker 1: to be thinking, especially as they approach a trade deadline
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Speaker 1: where they might not have the best chance of making
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Speaker 1: the posseason. They have a really tough schedule in July.
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Speaker 1: They tend to play better against good teams, so we'll
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Speaker 1: see what that means. But the next three weeks will
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Speaker 1: be interesting.
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Speaker 3: Where are those pieces that they would fill in. Let's
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Speaker 3: say they get within two games on July twenty eighth,
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Speaker 3: what's the biggest need fill in piece that would push
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Speaker 3: them over the top and push put them in a
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Speaker 3: wild card.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they just you know, I think with the
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Speaker 1: Angels this year, I look at their team as like
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Speaker 1: they're not really bad in any area, but they're not.
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Speaker 1: They're not excelling in any area either. I mean they're
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Speaker 1: the only team in baseball that's used all five of
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Speaker 1: their starting pitchers, like they have not. They've only these
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Speaker 1: five starting pitchers, and it's been that that way the
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Speaker 1: whole season. They've been on rotation. It's been, you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of anomalist to the way things typically go with
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Speaker 1: this team. I mean, the US eighteen starting pitchers last year.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I think they could use another
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Speaker 1: starting pitcher frankly, I mean, you know, Tyler Anderson and
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Speaker 1: Jack o'han witz have struggled a lot recently. Anderson's gotten
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Speaker 1: a little bit better in the last couple starts. You know,
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Speaker 1: I think that that would be an area of need.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can always use another, you know, solid
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Speaker 1: bullpen arm. Although I will say that I think that's
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Speaker 1: been more of a strength and that's partially what's gotten
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Speaker 1: the back in the mix over the last you know,
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Speaker 1: six weeks or so.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 1: In the outfield, it's you know, I don't know, I
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Speaker 1: don't know exactly what you do in the outfield. I
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Speaker 1: think that they don't have any depth as an organization
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Speaker 1: in that position. But right now there are three starters.
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Speaker 1: I think like much sure he would take out I
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Speaker 1: mean Solaire's been having a really tough year. But I mean,
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Speaker 1: you said, a game winning home run last night, So
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Speaker 1: I think you could use you know, another outfielder. I
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Speaker 1: think you can use in starting pa. I mean, they could
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Speaker 1: just use they can use just a little bit more everywhere.
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Speaker 1: But it's not like there's there's any glaring, glaring needs
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Speaker 1: as far as you know, the way I see it,
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Speaker 1: you know, especially if Luis Ronhifo kind of starts performing
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Speaker 1: continues performing the way he has over the last couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks.
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Speaker 4: Sam, you made me laugh, by the way when you
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Speaker 4: said jo Moncatta is healthy as a former White as
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Speaker 4: a White six fan. I mean that was kind of
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Speaker 4: like an oxymoron, is it? Mioal Moncatta is healthy? Like?
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Speaker 4: For how long? Is the is the real question?
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Speaker 1: We Yeah, he's been a line up for two days now,
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Speaker 1: so I guess we'll see what that he's due.
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Speaker 4: For, a back or a hamstring or something. I mean,
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Speaker 4: I hate to say that, but gosh, dang man, it's
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Speaker 4: been it's been a rough run for numerous years. Here, listen,
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Speaker 4: I get it. The Angels want to try it, but
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Speaker 4: they're not better than a lot of the teams that
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Speaker 4: are even equal or or ahead of them in the standing.
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Speaker 4: So they want to try and go for it. They
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Speaker 4: want to try and do this. You mentioned all the
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Speaker 4: position players. Is there a bat out there that they
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Speaker 4: could go get to plug in? Because you know, Christian
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Speaker 4: Moore is gonna come back. No one, no one, shod
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Speaker 4: Well netto Mancata. You have a HOPI they're young, they're
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Speaker 4: kind of a young core, right, so you wouldn't wanted
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Speaker 4: to stunt their development by going out and getting a bat.
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Speaker 4: I just don't know where you would put that back.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of what I'm saying, Like, you know, like
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Speaker 1: right now, logan on Hopy has been not good, right,
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Speaker 1: Like that's just you know, that's you could go out
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Speaker 1: and get another catcher. But I agree with you, Like,
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Speaker 1: what's what's the value in that? I mean, right now,
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Speaker 1: I would say you're the best thing as an organization
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Speaker 1: that they can do is make sure Hoppy gets better
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Speaker 1: and you know, play them and you know, figure that
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Speaker 1: out for him. I mean that's like I agree with you,
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Speaker 1: Like that's that I don't really see any value in
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Speaker 1: going and adding a ton of bad, you know, a
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Speaker 1: ton of offense. Rather, I mean it's you know, it
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Speaker 1: could go try to bolster the bench a little bit,
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Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, like I just
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Speaker 1: to me buying right now. I mean, unless unless, like something,
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Speaker 1: they get really hot over the next three weeks, it
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Speaker 1: doesn't make a ton of sense to me, And I
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Speaker 1: know that's just everyone's gonna say, like I just being
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Speaker 1: you know, down or negative, But it's just I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't see it. You know, they they have a
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Speaker 1: lot of teams to jump, they have a lot of challenge,
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Speaker 1: they have a lot of challenges ahead of them if
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Speaker 1: they're going to make the postseason. And you know, there's
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Speaker 1: just a track record that would lead me to believe that,
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Speaker 1: like that's just not where this is headed. But you know,
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe somebody can clip this in two months and
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Speaker 1: make me looking at it and they did it, and
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Speaker 1: that would be great. I just don't, I just don't
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Speaker 1: see it right now. Their team is is good, but
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Speaker 1: it's getting there good, and you it's not there yet.
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Speaker 1: And and uh, there's a lot of flawed teams in
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Speaker 1: the American League, so they're they're they're in the mix.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know, it's just that I think that
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Speaker 1: the Angels as a whole should always, you know, right now,
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Speaker 1: should be thinking about what you can do to make
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Speaker 1: yourself better next year, what you can do to make
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Speaker 1: yourself better in twenty seven, to really build a foundation.
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Speaker 1: I don't like the way they've been using some of
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Speaker 1: their their young uh, starting pitching prospects, bringing them up
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Speaker 1: and just like putting them in long relief games. Wrote
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Speaker 1: outings like Sam Alde Garrett from Double A for one
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Speaker 1: day on Tuesday and through forty two pitches in an inning,
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Speaker 1: and you know, just let him get embarrassed out there,
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Speaker 1: and you know, send him back down to Double A.
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, what's the value in that? Like, I
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Speaker 1: think the Angels as a whole need to be thinking
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Speaker 1: a lot differently about their young players and about building
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Speaker 1: as an organization and being patient in that process in
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Speaker 1: a way that they just aren't right now.
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Speaker 3: A few years ago, I played with Joe Adell on
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Speaker 3: Team USA, and somebody from the organization showed a scouting
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Speaker 3: report that they did own Joe Adell and they rated
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Speaker 3: him as a possible future Hall of Famer. It hasn't
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Speaker 3: gone that well for him since he's been up in
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Speaker 3: the big leagues. It was kind of a reach as
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Speaker 3: far as a report. But now that he had that
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Speaker 3: hot month of June with all those dingers, has Joe
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Speaker 3: Adele arrived as a guy who should be playing every
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Speaker 3: single day in the big leagues Versus righty's versus lefties,
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Speaker 3: versus velo versus spin.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I mean I think that, like you
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Speaker 1: mentioned all the home runs, but to me, like what's
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Speaker 1: been most impressive is is the lack of strikeouts, more
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Speaker 1: more walks. I mean, he's taking good at it. He's
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Speaker 1: a hard guy to get out right now. Now, maybe
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Speaker 1: he's cooled off a tiny bit since that the last
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Speaker 1: couple of days, but for the most part, like he's
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Speaker 1: he's just putting really good swings on the ball. I
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Speaker 1: think the difference for him is, you know, he's he's
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Speaker 1: just not accepting that he's a strike he's that he's
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Speaker 1: just like a you know, a three tree outcomes type
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Speaker 1: power hitter. Right like he two years ago, I remember
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Speaker 1: him talking about he was just he was willing to
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Speaker 1: accept that he was he was going to strike out,
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Speaker 1: that was going to be part of his game. And
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Speaker 1: I just don't think that he's doing that anymore. I
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Speaker 1: think he's he's understood that he can be a real legitimate,
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Speaker 1: you know, on base type hitter that also has power.
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Speaker 1: And I think you know, whoever gave you that scouting
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Speaker 1: report right like that was part of the partially what
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Speaker 1: they were probably open to see. And it's starting to
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Speaker 1: come together. I don't know if the Hall of Fame
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Speaker 1: is is where he's headed or where he's ticketed, or
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Speaker 1: you know, but I do think, you know, he could
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Speaker 1: have deserved an All Star and nod this year. You know,
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Speaker 1: George Springer might be would be ahead of him, you know.
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Speaker 1: But you know, there's there's probably a lot of debate
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Speaker 1: you can make over over the selections that they made
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Speaker 1: in the americanly outfield, but you know, overall, I just, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think he's he's figured something out. Like he's he's
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Speaker 1: made himself an actual big league hitter. You know, We've
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Speaker 1: seen it in the past when he's gone on hot streaks.
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Speaker 1: He runs hot and cold quite a bit, and when
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Speaker 1: he gets hot, he hits a lot of home runs.
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Speaker 1: And I think this time around he's got he's gotten
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Speaker 1: on base a lot more, and he's actually looked like
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Speaker 1: a real major league hitter as opposed to someone who
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Speaker 1: can you know, square one up.
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Speaker 2: You know, every couple of days, Sam, It's well documented
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Speaker 2: that this team has made some disastrous free agent signings
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Speaker 2: over the years. We do not have to remind anyone
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Speaker 2: about those pain points. But I'm going to take it
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Speaker 2: to the other route. Should they be thinking about extension
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Speaker 2: talks with some of these players. I don't know if
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Speaker 2: they have had any open conversations. We have logan Al
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Speaker 2: Hoppy on the show pretty frequently. I think we asked
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Speaker 2: him at one point and he said, no combos yet.
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Speaker 2: So between o'hapi and net Oh and Shannowell and maybe
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Speaker 2: even Joe Adele at this point, as you know, he's
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Speaker 2: had ups and downs and right now isn't a good spot,
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Speaker 2: and maybe they project him forward looking good. I think
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Speaker 2: he's only got a couple of years left of team control.
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Speaker 2: What would you do if your peramination and Ardie Marino
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Speaker 2: actually listened to you and you said, hey, can I
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Speaker 2: pick two guys here where we give them league market
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Speaker 2: extensions at the rate that they're at in terms of
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Speaker 2: service time?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think they missed the boat on this,
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Speaker 1: to be honest with you a little bit. I think
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Speaker 1: some of these extensions should have been thought about or
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Speaker 1: negotiated either before this season started or you know, last year.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's just it's tougher to extend
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Speaker 1: guys when they've kind of proven themselves as big leaguers
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Speaker 1: and you know, they know their market's going to be
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Speaker 1: once they hit free agency, and it's going to be
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Speaker 1: probably more than you know, at least what the Angel's
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Speaker 1: recent history has kind of shown us. You know, the
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Speaker 1: Angels haven't really made a big free agent signing in
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Speaker 1: about five since Anthony were in doing I mean, they
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Speaker 1: just said they haven't, right like they've they think they're
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Speaker 1: max contract that they've handed out as Kikuchi this year,
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Speaker 1: that's three over sixty three year sixty three. So it's
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Speaker 1: you know, they're not really operating as a big market
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Speaker 1: team in the last five years by any measure. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think they they probably should have done that. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if they're if those players are going to
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Speaker 1: be in their price range right now, I don't know
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Speaker 1: exactly if that's that's on the table right now. You know,
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Speaker 1: I think part of it is, yeah, talk about a hoppy.
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Speaker 1: Part of it probably is the agency, right Like, you know,
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Speaker 1: certain agents are probably more open to something like that
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Speaker 1: than others. But you know, the whole point of doing
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Speaker 1: that is extending you know that that that window that
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Speaker 1: you have for an extra maybe one two seasons before
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Speaker 1: they hit you know, the first you know, real free
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Speaker 1: agency of their careers and you have to incentivize that
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Speaker 1: in a certain way, and I just don't know if
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Speaker 1: the Angels are all going to spend that type of money.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Perry wash like all these guys
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Speaker 1: came from Atlanta, where that's been you know, the method
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Speaker 1: of operation right, extending young players, and just haven't haven't
14:42
Speaker 1: done that here. I think, you know, part of what
14:45
Speaker 1: all of this you know, you know, you talk about windows,
14:47
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, it's an interesting conversation. I
14:50
Speaker 1: think everyone looks at the Angels right now is Okay,
14:51
Speaker 1: they've got some good young players, but those windows aren't forever,
14:54
Speaker 1: and some of these guys are going to be free
14:56
Speaker 1: agents before you really know it. And so you know that,
14:59
Speaker 1: I think that and just the calculus of how they push,
15:01
Speaker 1: how they build, how they you know, think about, you know,
15:05
Speaker 1: their future, if they're thinking about it in that context.
15:07
Speaker 1: But I just and everything with the Angels is always
15:09
Speaker 1: about the present, and I think that's probably why to
15:12
Speaker 1: some extent, they haven't you know, pulled the trigger on
15:14
Speaker 1: any sort of extension serious extension talk as of yet.
15:19
Speaker 4: All right, Sam, I hate to do this to you,
15:21
Speaker 4: but I want to just say thank you for the article.
15:23
Speaker 4: You wrote on Bobby Jenks. He obviously passed away. We
15:26
Speaker 4: talked about Bobby h and I want to say thank
15:28
Speaker 4: you for the great article you put out about him
15:31
Speaker 4: on the Athletic before he passed away, about him and
15:34
Speaker 4: his family and in the challenges he was going through.
15:37
Speaker 4: So nothing about the Angels other than Bobby came up
15:40
Speaker 4: in the Angels organization. But thank you from me and
15:43
Speaker 4: from my teammates and from Bobby Jenks fans for writing
15:46
Speaker 4: that article and kind of putting his life into a
15:48
Speaker 4: perspective for me. So I just wanted to say thank you.
15:50
Speaker 4: That was it.
15:51
Speaker 1: No, that means lots to me. Appreciate you saying that,
15:53
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's just, yeah, that was That's a tough one.
15:56
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know him beyond you know, dealing
15:59
Speaker 1: with him and his family through that process. But uh,
16:03
Speaker 1: you know it's hard because you could you could tell
16:07
Speaker 1: just how much he meant to his family and and
16:09
Speaker 1: some people close to him, and uh, you know, I've
16:12
Speaker 1: been thinking a lot about them the last few days.
16:13
Speaker 1: And yeah, I hope they're doing all.
16:17
Speaker 4: OKA appreciate No, you're welcome, thank you. Now that we
16:20
Speaker 4: went to a sad uh, let's go back to something
16:22
Speaker 4: a little more lighthearted and more funny. You had to
16:25
Speaker 4: do fielding drills with Ron Washington, So I mean, walk
16:29
Speaker 4: us through this because.
16:31
Speaker 1: I got video.
16:32
Speaker 4: I mean, what are we doing? What did you keep you? Oh?
16:36
Speaker 3: Man?
16:37
Speaker 1: God, now another guy who I'm missed too. You know,
16:39
Speaker 1: I want to give my you know, I'm on this platform.
16:41
Speaker 1: I want to just you know, give my best wishes
16:44
Speaker 1: to watch. And I hope he's doing well. You know,
16:46
Speaker 1: he's he's he's out now with the health issue and
16:48
Speaker 1: won't play. Won't me manage the rest of the season. Uh,
16:51
Speaker 1: but yeah, that was a really great experience. And I think,
16:54
Speaker 1: to me, that's just you know, it's less about me
16:56
Speaker 1: and more about just like the way Wash teaches and
16:58
Speaker 1: and you know, just I think what what gravitates him
17:01
Speaker 1: towards players, you know, and vice versa, and and you
17:04
Speaker 1: know it's he just got an energy to him. Man,
17:07
Speaker 1: even at seventy three, even though he's going through all this,
17:09
Speaker 1: you know, it's just like you could tell like this
17:10
Speaker 1: is this is who he is. I think that was
17:13
Speaker 1: the last line of that story. And and going through
17:14
Speaker 1: that process, like man, I just I'm not a baseball player.
17:17
Speaker 1: Uh probably have a very baseline level of athleticism. But
17:21
Speaker 1: you know, I like he just like was very encouraging,
17:23
Speaker 1: but also like if you were messing up, like very
17:25
Speaker 1: very very harsh. You know, I don't think he expected,
17:28
Speaker 1: you know, it to look like a big league level,
17:29
Speaker 1: uh you know of you know, field and ground balls.
17:32
Speaker 1: But you know, if it wasn't the right way of
17:35
Speaker 1: going about it, he would he would yell, he would curse,
17:37
Speaker 1: he would get in your grill about it. So yeah,
17:39
Speaker 1: that's that's who he is. And and I think that's, uh,
17:42
Speaker 1: you know, something the team's missing right now. And and
17:44
Speaker 1: I just hope to hope he's healthy and gets healthy
17:46
Speaker 1: and you know, does what he needs to do to
17:48
Speaker 1: uh get back on baseball field, because if that story
17:51
Speaker 1: illustrates anything, it's that's where he belongs.
17:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love wash. Wait he was chewing you out, Sam?
17:57
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, oh, I love it. I love that.
18:01
Speaker 1: That's great to.
18:02
Speaker 3: Hear over under a number of f bombs during your
18:06
Speaker 3: all the drills that you guys did, what do we
18:08
Speaker 3: shout that?
18:09
Speaker 1: I'll say about forty eight probably it was gotta be high,
18:14
Speaker 1: you know. Then afterwards, sitting in the dugout, he's smoking
18:17
Speaker 1: a cigarette. He's just ripping, you know, his team and
18:20
Speaker 1: times were they were like on a seven game losing
18:22
Speaker 1: streak at the time, so it was, you know, he
18:24
Speaker 1: comes and again like that's he was willing to. It
18:26
Speaker 1: was the first day after they had a long Roacher play,
18:29
Speaker 1: lost every game and he comes out and does that,
18:31
Speaker 1: so it was cool.
18:32
Speaker 2: Very cool. Well, Sam, thanks for putting that together. And yeah,
18:35
Speaker 2: I agree that the Bobby Jenks work was amazing too.
18:39
Speaker 2: And we're thinking of Bobby and the family right now.
18:41
Speaker 2: But Sam, good to talk to you. Thanks for the time.
18:43
Speaker 2: We'll catch you soon.
18:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks god, Thanks guys.
18:46
Speaker 4: Take care