Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Katie Woolf spoke with National Critical Care and Trauma Centre Executive Director Len Notaras
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Mix one O four point nine dot com dot you
- 0:02Speaker 1: for all the latest news and information. Now three sixty
- 0:06Speaker 1: with Katie Wolf. Everyone is listening Mix one oh four
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- 0:12Speaker 2: The OZMAT team and the National Critical Care and Trauma
- 0:15Speaker 2: Response Center Executive Director lennataris well. He leads a phenomenal
- 0:20Speaker 2: group of people who obviously work in some of those
- 0:22Speaker 2: really intense and difficult situations. And we know that the
- 0:27Speaker 2: forward team of OZMAT health specialists with an emergency vaccine
- 0:30Speaker 2: supply has touchdown, as I understand it, in Papua New
- 0:33Speaker 2: Guinea's capital of Port Moresby, in an effort to help
- 0:37Speaker 2: those local health authorities to deal with what's been described
- 0:40Speaker 2: as a spiraling coronavirus crisis.
- 0:42Speaker 3: There.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Now to talk more about this is lennataris the head
- 0:47Speaker 2: of the National Critical Care and Trauma Response Center, which
- 0:50Speaker 2: is of course responsible for OZMAT. Good morning to you, Len.
- 0:54Speaker 3: Good morning Katie. And they are wonderful people, the best
- 0:57Speaker 3: of the best.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Absolutely they are mate. What is the current situation in
- 1:01Speaker 2: Papua New Guinea And how's that team going?
- 1:04Speaker 3: Look, the team set down up there. The boots were
- 1:07Speaker 3: on the ground on Tuesday afternoon, and they're up there
- 1:11Speaker 3: at this stage for the purpose of assessment and support.
- 1:15Speaker 3: They're providing support for through the head of Mission up
- 1:19Speaker 3: there out of Australian Head of Mission a High Commission,
- 1:22Speaker 3: and they're supplying support for the PNNG government, the Prime
- 1:27Speaker 3: Minister and indeed the Health Department. Now we were activated
- 1:30Speaker 3: by DEEPA, that's Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade and
- 1:34Speaker 3: working very closely. We're part of Federal Health, working closely
- 1:38Speaker 3: with Federal Health and indeed Emergency Management Australia. We got
- 1:42Speaker 3: those first three up there. That's a great team. And
- 1:47Speaker 3: the interesting part of this OKAT is that we're up
- 1:51Speaker 3: there August September of last year doing helping them to
- 1:56Speaker 3: prepare for the potential of an outbreak, and they had
- 1:59Speaker 3: a small outbreak at that particular time which we helped
- 2:03Speaker 3: them in containing up there for around about four weeks
- 2:08Speaker 3: for six weeks. And at that stage the same folk
- 2:13Speaker 3: who were up who went up at that time have
- 2:16Speaker 3: gone back up now as the lead team or the
- 2:20Speaker 3: support team, and that will be followed by whatever they
- 2:24Speaker 3: consider and indeed the PNG government and Health Australian Deeper
- 2:30Speaker 3: consider necessary.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Lenn how many how many Aussies have headed across and
- 2:35Speaker 2: have we got territories as part of that team.
- 2:38Speaker 3: At this stage it's three and they're pretty all well,
- 2:41Speaker 3: all off our ozmat Queensland database. Mark Little, who is
- 2:46Speaker 3: a doctor, is the team leader and who happens to
- 2:50Speaker 3: be his wife is a pretty senior this as well,
- 2:54Speaker 3: and they're up there there now and the other doctor.
- 2:58Speaker 3: The three of them are all from Queensland. Now quite
- 3:03Speaker 3: possibly well quite possibly very likely as we send larger
- 3:06Speaker 3: stisions up. The primary source of logistics support, which is
- 3:11Speaker 3: critically the backbone of a lot of what we do,
- 3:14Speaker 3: come from here in Darwin. They work primarily in the
- 3:19Speaker 3: Fire Service, but we have a very close association with
- 3:23Speaker 3: Police Foreign Emergency and as appropriately they are released and
- 3:28Speaker 3: provide our logistics support. So we will see Territorians going
- 3:32Speaker 3: up there as appropriate and as required. We'll also see
- 3:36Speaker 3: as required our equipment, whether it be the negative pressure
- 3:40Speaker 3: ice to us, whether it's laboratory equipment or whatever else.
- 3:44Speaker 3: We've got all that on standby at the request of
- 3:48Speaker 3: Foreign Affairs in Australian government, and indeed the P and
- 3:51Speaker 3: G government will deploy that again working very closely with
- 3:56Speaker 3: Defense in that case.
- 3:57Speaker 2: And then my understanding is that you know, the situation
- 4:00Speaker 2: in Papua New Guineas is a very serious one, not
- 4:02Speaker 2: only of course for Papua New Guineans, but also for
- 4:07Speaker 2: our North Queensland. As we know that we had just
- 4:09Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago there was quite a few
- 4:11Speaker 2: cases sort of coming across due to that close proximity
- 4:15Speaker 2: to Cans and arriving in North Queensland, obviously in hotel quarantine.
- 4:20Speaker 2: But you know it's important that we try our best
- 4:22Speaker 2: that we can really to try and help Papua New
- 4:25Speaker 2: Guinea to control this situation.
- 4:28Speaker 3: That's absolutely right, O, Katie, and those your listeners will
- 4:32Speaker 3: realize that some of our northern irelands off Queensland you
- 4:37Speaker 3: can actually see the islands of PNNG on a clear day.
- 4:41Speaker 3: So the proximity between the far northern parts of Queensland
- 4:46Speaker 3: and indeed the south of southeast of the and g
- 4:51Speaker 3: are very close to each other. We have seen people
- 4:55Speaker 3: coming down already and there's been a very high level
- 4:57Speaker 3: of positive rates in those who have come down and
- 5:01Speaker 3: they have been managed in a tremendously solid way by Queensland.
- 5:07Speaker 3: Queensland is also taking medical evacuations out of and these
- 5:12Speaker 3: are not necessarily COVID related. These could be kids who
- 5:15Speaker 3: have had an accident or adults who need you know,
- 5:18Speaker 3: sort of intensive treatment and Queensland are very very good
- 5:22Speaker 3: with that particular relationship. But right now we're assessing the situation.
- 5:28Speaker 3: For us. It will be vital that everybody that we
- 5:32Speaker 3: send up there has had their two doses of vaccine
- 5:36Speaker 3: and also we send security personnel up to ensure that
- 5:40Speaker 3: the security of our members is sort of absolutely observed.
- 5:47Speaker 3: But we'll also be looking at the needs what P
- 5:50Speaker 3: and G sees its particular needs, whether that's further advice,
- 5:54Speaker 3: whether that's surge capacity in other words, providing additional staff
- 5:59Speaker 3: for some of them. Is they're doing very good job
- 6:03Speaker 3: from a vaccination point of view and will continue to
- 6:06Speaker 3: do that. But there are some eight four hundred vaccines
- 6:12Speaker 3: going up in Australia. Will be providing it and they
- 6:14Speaker 3: will go to frontline P and G practitioners with their clinicians.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Or support start well, which is so incredibly important. Lenn
- 6:25Speaker 2: I had seen it reported that you know, in some
- 6:28Speaker 2: cases with you every day Papua New Guineas. At the moment,
- 6:32Speaker 2: some of them there's been a bit of a pushback
- 6:34Speaker 2: to that vaccine due to some of the scare mongering
- 6:36Speaker 2: I guess from anti vaxes.
- 6:40Speaker 3: You're quite right. We saw something not dissimilar to this
- 6:44Speaker 3: back in twenty nineteen. The end of twenty nineteen, as
- 6:47Speaker 3: you recall, we went up to Samoa not with COVID
- 6:49Speaker 3: but rather with vaccine for the measles, and that combination
- 6:56Speaker 3: of a lack of confidence in the the vaccines and
- 7:01Speaker 3: anti vax is. Now the vaccines for measles that tremendous.
- 7:05Speaker 3: They are tried and true, but because a couple of
- 7:08Speaker 3: untoward Penser the killed in Samoa the year before or
- 7:12Speaker 3: earlier that year, there was a downturn in the willingness
- 7:16Speaker 3: for people to get vaccines, get vaccinated. I'm sorry. Now. Similarly,
- 7:21Speaker 3: there is some misinformation up there in P and G
- 7:23Speaker 3: which we will be helping to dispel. The health authorities
- 7:28Speaker 3: up there are tremendous and I'm proud to say that
- 7:32Speaker 3: we've been working with them over a long period of
- 7:35Speaker 3: time from an osmat and and NCCTRC perspective. A number
- 7:39Speaker 3: of them have been here to Darwin to train with
- 7:42Speaker 3: our various courses. So that relationship is very, very solid
- 7:47Speaker 3: and it's a sustained one. You'll remember in twenty eighteen,
- 7:50Speaker 3: I sent up several teams to the p Andng earthquake
- 7:53Speaker 3: in the Nandi and the Highlands. So yeah, they're very
- 7:58Speaker 3: familiar and we will be doing all we can to
- 8:02Speaker 3: dispel that terrible and life threatening myths of some of
- 8:09Speaker 3: those people who are sort of espousing the anti vacks cause.
- 8:14Speaker 2: Len any idea at this point in time, how long
- 8:17Speaker 2: your OSMAT team are going to be over there in
- 8:20Speaker 2: Papua New Guinea.
- 8:21Speaker 3: Look, I would expect anything from very short four weeks
- 8:27Speaker 3: or conversely could be up to three months. At this
- 8:30Speaker 3: particular moment, I would say anything between four to eight,
- 8:35Speaker 3: possibly twelve weeks, and we will see not just the
- 8:39Speaker 3: one team, but we'll see a number of teams deployed.
- 8:42Speaker 3: In other words, we go up with this first team,
- 8:44Speaker 3: which is an Alpha team, then we'll see a Bravo
- 8:46Speaker 3: and Charlie. In the last time around, we were there
- 8:49Speaker 3: for four to six weeks, and we have two teams,
- 8:51Speaker 3: an Alpha and a Brava. One will roll in after
- 8:55Speaker 3: the other and they'll have handovers and so on. So
- 8:57Speaker 3: we're preparing. We've stood up right nation because p Andng
- 9:03Speaker 3: is near and dear to us. They have been part
- 9:05Speaker 3: of the nation basically an independent, of course nation, but
- 9:10Speaker 3: they are our brothers and sisters up there as well,
- 9:13Speaker 3: so very important to us.
- 9:15Speaker 2: Absolutely, Lenn, I hope you don't mind a bit of
- 9:18Speaker 2: a question without notice. I was just wondering how things
- 9:21Speaker 2: are going back here on home soil in terms of
- 9:24Speaker 2: that transitioning out at Howard Springs.
- 9:27Speaker 3: I look very very well. There's a high degree of
- 9:31Speaker 3: collegial collaboration and indeed there's lots of lessons learned and
- 9:40Speaker 3: learnings that can be transferred. Clearly, our team, the ncct
- 9:45Speaker 3: S os MAP team that there are still there and
- 9:48Speaker 3: will continue. As I've said previous to this, I'll continue
- 9:52Speaker 3: to be there as long as is appropriate, and there
- 9:56Speaker 3: is considerable work going on by the MTG team that
- 10:00Speaker 3: will be taking it over to ensure that recruitment and
- 10:02Speaker 3: retention are observed and the right people are recruited. We're
- 10:09Speaker 3: already in the process to get comfort to yourself and
- 10:13Speaker 3: indeed listeners of handing over some of the success stories
- 10:16Speaker 3: we've had over their argument's sake. Our telehealth telly well
- 10:21Speaker 3: being a service one of a better word which also
- 10:26Speaker 3: takes in telehospitality. It will be handed over and a
- 10:31Speaker 3: number of that stuff will actually go across to the facility. Now,
- 10:35Speaker 3: then those people, while they have very solid backgrounds, are
- 10:38Speaker 3: not necessarily our osmotars, but they're people who have made
- 10:43Speaker 3: this tick over time. Similarly, some of our logistic round
- 10:47Speaker 3: of people and others who if they so desire, and
- 10:52Speaker 3: some of them will I'll go across and work not
- 10:57Speaker 3: as OSMAT but rather as MTGP. So it is going well,
- 11:01Speaker 3: and I'm very I'm very confident that that transition will
- 11:06Speaker 3: continue to go well into the future. And Sovid's with
- 11:10Speaker 3: us for a long while. Yet, as we're seen occurring
- 11:15Speaker 3: over there in Queensland right now with Sadly a community case,
- 11:19Speaker 3: you've been very well identified and very quickly identified. Only
- 11:22Speaker 3: say sadly because you know, these things pop up and
- 11:26Speaker 3: people have to respond to them.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Yeah. So then at this point, no sort of clear
- 11:32Speaker 2: set date as to exactly when your team will move
- 11:36Speaker 2: out of Howard Springs.
- 11:38Speaker 3: No, Look, the transition as always from my own perspective,
- 11:43Speaker 3: and I'll insist on it. I know, I know that
- 11:46Speaker 3: the Chief and indeed the Health Minister and indeed the
- 11:49Speaker 3: federal Health Minister, everybody wants this to be an orderly
- 11:53Speaker 3: transition and one that has safety of everybody in mind
- 11:58Speaker 3: and indeed the integrity the community. So we've got a
- 12:02Speaker 3: fabulous record out there on both sides of the pence
- 12:05Speaker 3: for one of the better word, and that fabulous record
- 12:08Speaker 3: is being emulated right across the world, right across this country,
- 12:13Speaker 3: and we want to maintain that, not one, but we
- 12:16Speaker 3: will maintain it. And it's really not for negotiation that
- 12:20Speaker 3: we go otherwise, because we're territorians, a lot of us,
- 12:23Speaker 3: and we want to make sure that you know, sort
- 12:26Speaker 3: of our territorians are safe, but also that Australians get home.
- 12:31Speaker 3: What one of the little boasts I guess about Howard
- 12:34Speaker 3: Springs is that we're over six thousand that we've returned
- 12:38Speaker 3: now since the twenty third of October, and the original
- 12:41Speaker 3: agreement was to bring five thousand back by the thirty
- 12:43Speaker 3: first of March, and thirty first of March is still
- 12:47Speaker 3: almost a week away, and we're well and truly exceeded
- 12:50Speaker 3: that with a fabulous record. Touch would you know. I
- 12:55Speaker 3: don't want to be too too boastful, but we can
- 12:59Speaker 3: be proud of the job that has been done there. Absolutely,
- 13:04Speaker 3: I mean to anticipate will p and g have an impact.
- 13:06Speaker 3: Will we be drawing, No, we won't. I've said that
- 13:09Speaker 3: since the very beginning, with any deployment that we might have,
- 13:12Speaker 3: whether it's there or whether it's somewhere else. Our recommitment
- 13:17Speaker 3: to the Howard Springs set of national resilience is very
- 13:21Speaker 3: firm and very considered, and it will continue to be
- 13:24Speaker 3: until such time as we're confident that that's it. That confidence,
- 13:30Speaker 3: i should say, Katie, is not a reflection on any
- 13:34Speaker 3: doubt that our other colleagues are not exceptionally good at
- 13:41Speaker 3: what they do. They are, of course, and we just
- 13:43Speaker 3: want to make sure that we meld all the good
- 13:45Speaker 3: things together. Yeah.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Absolutely well. Lenda Taris, of course, the National Critical Care
- 13:51Speaker 2: and Trauma Response and OSNAT executive director. We always love
- 13:55Speaker 2: chatting with you. Thank you so very much for your
- 13:57Speaker 2: time today.
- 13:59Speaker 3: And thank you the listeners for your support.
- 14:01Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Lenn and that number this morning. If
- 14:04Speaker 2: you would like to get in contact with US eight
- 14:06Speaker 2: nine four one one O four nine and GE. They
- 14:09Speaker 2: do a phenomenal job, you know when you talk about
- 14:11Speaker 2: this OSMAT team then going across to Papua New Guinea.
- 14:14Speaker 2: By the sounds of it, only three of them at
- 14:16Speaker 2: this point in time, but they are anticipating that there's
- 14:18Speaker 2: going to be those team changeovers, and you think about
- 14:21Speaker 2: the way that they're you know, helping other countries and
- 14:24Speaker 2: indeed the job that they've done out at Howard Springs,
- 14:27Speaker 2: it is quite phenomenal. Hats off to you know, to
- 14:30Speaker 2: all of them involved, and as Lena's pointed out as well,
- 14:33Speaker 2: you know, our wonderful health staff and everybody that's working
- 14:36Speaker 2: out there at the Howard Springs facility at the moment
- 14:39Speaker 2: doing a tremendous job by the sounds of it, you know,
- 14:42Speaker 2: whether you're talking about our teams from our from the
- 14:46Speaker 2: Department of Health, whether you're talking about the police, you know,
- 14:49Speaker 2: right to the security guards and those out there working
- 14:52Speaker 2: doing a tremendous job.