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3-11-26 Hour 1 - MacKinnon's awful was AWFUL ejection/Crosby back to Raiders, Italy beats USA/Bam's 83-pt game · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: Half top numbers.
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  Speaker 2: If they hurry forty one seconds they go in the
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  Speaker 2: period Kadri all the way through Nelson from.
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  Speaker 1: A can of that tip.
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  Speaker 2: Why why as Connor Ingram last smoked his stick and
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  Speaker 2: his blocker and he's laying inside the crease and inside
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  Speaker 2: the net.
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  Speaker 3: McKinnon came across and absolutely smoked him going for that
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  Speaker 3: back door past Connor. This could be a knee straight
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  Speaker 3: to the head accidental, of course, just in the heat
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  Speaker 3: of battle, trying to tap that pucking back door and
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  Speaker 3: you got Nate two hundred pounds of pure brick coming
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  Speaker 3: through the grease.
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  Speaker 1: I think accidentally caught him. Oh he's down and he
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  Speaker 1: is not moving. I have to review the call. The
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  Speaker 1: ace is confirmed. PAULAA player has a major game misconduct
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  Speaker 1: for goaltender interferts.
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  Speaker 4: All right, there is a number of things that we
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  Speaker 4: need to discuss this morning. First of all, Vick, you
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  Speaker 4: picked the hell of a day to come into the studio.
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  Speaker 4: Why and share this table with me?
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  Speaker 1: Why is that welcome?
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  Speaker 4: After what your Italians did to my US baseball team
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  Speaker 4: last night, we would choose today to come in of
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  Speaker 4: all days.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't everybody on this diece here, didn't everybody mock the
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  Speaker 1: Italian basket baseball team. I know certain Moser who mocked, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Italy's baseball team. And look at them now.
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  Speaker 4: Saying, you picked a hell of a day. You understand.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not happy. I'm not happy that my manager thought
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  Speaker 4: that they were already in before the game.
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  Speaker 1: DeRosa before the game says yeah, oh well, we're already
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  Speaker 1: moving on to the next rounds. This game doesn't really matter.
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  Speaker 1: Oh turns out it dies. I don't think they're going
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  Speaker 1: to advance.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think so either, on all the things that
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  Speaker 4: have to happen. We'll save that for later. I'm just
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  Speaker 4: I'm you picked the hell of a day, That's all
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying. Butt mojuh, I need to.
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  Speaker 1: Have I gotta tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Let me have a private conversation with Steve Nelson real quick, please?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? Go ahead? Well, every day every day so requesting
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  Speaker 1: a song of some sort.
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  Speaker 4: Here's here's the thing, though, Vic, We're gonna talk to
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  Speaker 4: Bednard eight forty this morning. It's rare to get Bednar
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  Speaker 4: as animated as he was after the game. Man, if
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  Speaker 4: you guys didn't hear it, he at length about that
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  Speaker 4: play that we just opened the show with where McKinnon
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  Speaker 4: not only gets the major, he gets the boot and
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  Speaker 4: change the complexion of the game. This is the initial
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  Speaker 4: thoughts of Bednar.
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  Speaker 5: After Yeah, first thing I looked at for me, I
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  Speaker 5: look at the overhead. He makes the play on the
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  Speaker 5: pock and I got his toes cutting up ice, probably
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  Speaker 5: through the top of the paint, and Ingram's on the
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  Speaker 5: goal line. There's no chance that he hits the goalie
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  Speaker 5: if doesn't run into he's not hitting the goalie. I
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  Speaker 5: checked the overhead first. He's gonna go where his toes
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  Speaker 5: are pointed, and they're going to the top of the
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  Speaker 5: crease with Ingram in the bottom of the crease until
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  Speaker 5: Nurse makes contact with him, and that's what causes a collision.
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  Speaker 5: I don't care if he's injured not injured. It's a
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  Speaker 5: severe crash, not a severe crash. It's not penalty. If
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  Speaker 5: you put guys in your own goalie, it's not a penalty.
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  Speaker 5: That's why I see it.
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  Speaker 4: Can I just say something real quick. Most sure, I
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  Speaker 4: made an analogy earlier. I'm gonna do this again, so
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  Speaker 4: just give me like a minute. I've never understood why
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  Speaker 4: there's a different sentencing time for attempted murder. In murder,
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  Speaker 4: the intent is the same, whether you actually end someone's
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  Speaker 4: life or not you attempted to.
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  Speaker 1: Do so, it's the aim.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, you get five years for missing or
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  Speaker 4: life for actually hitting.
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  Speaker 1: It's never made sense to h me. Yeah, they base
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  Speaker 1: it on the result, and in sports we base penalties
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  Speaker 1: on the result of things all the time.
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  Speaker 4: That makes no sense. You want to give McKinnon the boot,
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna have to tell me that he intentionally tried
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  Speaker 4: to take the head off of Ingram. If he didn't,
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  Speaker 4: then why are you punishing him for being shoved into
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  Speaker 4: the guy? It makes no sense to me. None, Go ahead, mode.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I believe that I am uniquely qualified to speak
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  Speaker 2: on this subject because I've seen every single game that
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  Speaker 2: Nathan McKinnon has ever played in the National Hockey League.
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  Speaker 4: You are uniquely qualified.
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  Speaker 2: I watch him on a daily, nightly basis, and by
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  Speaker 2: the way, VIC NHL players are remarkably skilled at going
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  Speaker 2: in at high speed and avoiding a goalie.
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  Speaker 1: Especially a guy like Nathan McKinnon.
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  Speaker 2: There is no doubt in my mind, because I've seen
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  Speaker 2: him do it a thousand times, that he was going
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  Speaker 2: to avoid Connor Ingham. There's no there's absolutely zero doubt
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  Speaker 2: in my mind. Now that being said, I I see
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  Speaker 2: him every single day, I watch every game he plays.
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  Speaker 1: I've watched him.
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  Speaker 2: Bunny hop a goalie a billion times in my life.
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  Speaker 2: There's no way in that situation, with that score three
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  Speaker 2: to two, that Nathan McKinnon is.
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  Speaker 1: Going to blow up a goalie.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I don't ever recall him blowing up a
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  Speaker 2: goalie in his entire life. I can't remember the time
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  Speaker 2: he blew up a goalie ever, Nathan. And here's why,
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  Speaker 2: Nathan McKinnon doesn't have to blow up a goalie. He's
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  Speaker 2: too good to blow up a goalie. Some guys they
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  Speaker 2: need to blow up a goalie.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Some guys want to quote send a message as
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  Speaker 1: a skater. Yes, you're he just he doesn't miss. You're right,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't miss.
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  Speaker 2: He's he's not that guy, and he's by far one
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  Speaker 2: of the best on his feet in the entire league.
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  Speaker 2: He was not trying to hit Connor Ingram. He was
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  Speaker 2: not going to hit Connor Ingram. So when they're reviewing
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  Speaker 2: it and Eddie, oh, Eddie olchick. By the way, he
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  Speaker 2: still the loss of Troy Murray for the Blackhawks is tough.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that another time. But but but listening
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  Speaker 2: to him talk about it, Eddie's great, he's great. He's like, uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this is this is not a major. They have to
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  Speaker 2: call a major. Then they review it to yes, because
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  Speaker 2: they can always you can't elevate it. You can't call
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  Speaker 2: him minor and then make it a major. You can
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  Speaker 2: call it a major and then reduce it down to
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  Speaker 2: a mind right, he said, it's not a major. It
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  Speaker 2: becomes a major and a game.
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  Speaker 1: Tuk Rask said the same things.
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  Speaker 2: Kozy have that audio, former goalie, long time goalie in
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  Speaker 2: the National Hockey League. He completely agreed. It's a lot,
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  Speaker 2: just not a major. Let alone get a game on
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  Speaker 2: top of it.
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  Speaker 4: Just real quick ten seconds because there's some fishy stuff
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  Speaker 4: going on. The Ravens who backed out of the Max
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  Speaker 4: Crosby Will just signed Trey Hendrickson swore year one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and twelve million dollar contract. That is fishy as hell.
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  Speaker 4: But continue oh that sticks. Yeah, that's real fish.
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  Speaker 1: That's in the know.
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  Speaker 2: What that is that that smells like a gym sock
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  Speaker 2: in your in your car's heater box.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get to that lander, but continue with the Avs
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  Speaker 4: just want to make people aware.
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  Speaker 2: That being said, I I just I guess I can
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  Speaker 2: see in real time how they would call that. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how you go back and review it. Because
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  Speaker 2: Darnell Nurse absolutely one hundred percent, and we'll talk to
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  Speaker 2: coach about it in an hour and a half. He
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  Speaker 2: absolutely affected the outcome of that play. Then you see
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  Speaker 2: he was.
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  Speaker 1: He was the driving thrust of it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no doubt that McKinnon I mean blew
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  Speaker 2: up Ingram, but only because Nurse hit him. Dude, I've
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  Speaker 2: seen McKinnon cut to the side of the net at
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  Speaker 2: a billion miles per hour like that a thousand times,
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  Speaker 2: and he's his ability to bunny hop to the front
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  Speaker 2: of the crease and avoid the goalie is as good
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  Speaker 2: as anybody that's ever existed.
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  Speaker 1: The Avs withstood the major they stood that being PK,
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  Speaker 1: but they needed I mean, if you took McDavid away
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  Speaker 1: from the Oilers in the third period, it would certainly
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  Speaker 1: be a big gap. They needed McKinnon in the game.
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  Speaker 2: I vic, you're one hundred percent correct my last thoughts
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  Speaker 2: on that particular play. Not only did you lose McKinnon
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  Speaker 2: for the game for the entire third period, but you're
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  Speaker 2: four on four for what you know, a minute and
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  Speaker 2: then you're killing.
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  Speaker 1: You're killing or forty four minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're killing more than four minutes. You're killing more
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  Speaker 2: than four minutes. So there's no offensive thrust. You're all
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  Speaker 2: you're doing is protecting the best you possibly can and
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  Speaker 2: you're killing. So you don't have that opportunity. Now you
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  Speaker 2: got tied. Eventually, you got tied on an HS goal.
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  Speaker 2: So these things, but it.
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  Speaker 1: Affects the course of a year, guys. So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we're all upside about it. I will use
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  Speaker 1: the same argument I used for the Nuggets the other night,
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  Speaker 1: so that I'm right down the middle. The Nuggets didn't
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  Speaker 1: lose because SGA hit a couple of dagger threes. The
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  Speaker 1: Nuggets lost to OKC because they didn't take care of
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  Speaker 1: business in the second quarter when their second unit came in. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: the lost because their second period was terrible, not a
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  Speaker 1: good period. And that's why they lost the game.
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  Speaker 2: Look, you scored thirty two seconds into the game, and
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  Speaker 2: by the way it appears, the Ross Colton situation is
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  Speaker 2: not super bad. Thank goodness that he took a shot
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  Speaker 2: in the upper body and tightened up. Okay, so we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk to coach about that too. You scored thirty two
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  Speaker 2: seconds in VIC.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the defense just got porous. It was
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  Speaker 1: like the red sea. I've never seen so many this season.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen so many wide open attacks. You are
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  Speaker 1: so right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like this, there are way too many glorious chances
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  Speaker 2: for Edmansing. I mean, like, way too many juicy chances.
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  Speaker 2: They could have put three or four fat, juicy, dripping chances.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, all of And that's why, and that's why Avalanche fans,
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna want me to hear or say this
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  Speaker 1: or hear this. The Nathan McKinnon call was wrong. That's
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  Speaker 1: not why they lost. They lost because they didn't take
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  Speaker 1: care of business in the second period.
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  Speaker 2: Totally agree with everything. What's the best analogy ever for
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  Speaker 2: that thing that just laid out?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, the OKC Nuggets game. That's the best analogy.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's the same thing the Titanic didn't sink
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  Speaker 2: because it hit an iceberg.
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  Speaker 1: Because the captain was clueless.
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  Speaker 2: I've told the story a million times, right. You have
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  Speaker 2: to have a chain of events starting with the actual
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  Speaker 2: design of the ship all the way to the iceberg.
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  Speaker 1: To get it to hit the iceberg and then sink.
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  Speaker 1: There's I I one.
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  Speaker 4: Hundred percent agree with everything that Vic just said. I
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  Speaker 4: will also volunteer this. Oh God, mckennon's call was stupid. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: the brock Nelson penalty was stupid. And Edmonton of all
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  Speaker 4: teams that if you give them an extra attacker are
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  Speaker 4: gonna kill you with it. They're thirty three percent on
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  Speaker 4: the power play this year, and I'm just gonna throw
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  Speaker 4: something out there because we're all thinking it. Kelly Sutherland,
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  Speaker 4: the ref in that game. In games that he refs
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  Speaker 4: against the Avs over the last three seasons, the Avs
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  Speaker 4: are three and twelve, which seems very odd because the
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  Speaker 4: Avs aren't a three and twelve team. Speaking of stinking
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  Speaker 4: like a dirty gym sock, that's mysterious.
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  Speaker 1: Is that a little weird? Is it fair for me
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  Speaker 1: to be like, hmmm, it's mysterious. That seems odd. I
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  Speaker 1: have no comment, I'm sure you don't. That's a mysterious
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  Speaker 1: number for me. Say that again.
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  Speaker 4: Over the last three seasons Avalanche games refereed by Kelly Sutherland,
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  Speaker 4: they are three and twelve.
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  Speaker 1: And this is an AVS team that has been pretty
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  Speaker 1: damn good over the last three seasons.
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  Speaker 4: You know, one of the best in the league every
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  Speaker 4: single year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, that's a pretty bold number.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just again, Vic, all of what you said second
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  Speaker 4: period being bad Avs giving them opportunities, all of that
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  Speaker 4: is true, and I can also say that's a very
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  Speaker 4: weird number, very so again, not the reason why you lost,
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  Speaker 4: but it is. When I see Brock Nelson on a
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  Speaker 4: phantom call go to the box, I'm like hmm. And
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  Speaker 4: then they boot McKinnon for a play that he had
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  Speaker 4: no control. And by the way, Benmark continued to talk
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  Speaker 4: about that, he said this.
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  Speaker 5: Like I'm not gonna make it about officiating, but it's
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  Speaker 5: part of the game, and like you were shorthanded taking
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  Speaker 5: slashes and it's not called we're gonna look away. Then
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  Speaker 5: Nelson dances guy and the new Trazona gets tripped, Like
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  Speaker 5: that's what the penalties are for. If someone makes a
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  Speaker 5: high skill play McDavid beats one of our guys and
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  Speaker 5: he's going to the net and we put a stick
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  Speaker 5: on him in the wrong spot, or we hook him,
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  Speaker 5: hold him, whatever it is. Officiating's supposed to reward the skill, okay,
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  Speaker 5: and then we're gonna call everything, but this stuff when
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  Speaker 5: a guy makes a high skill play and gets into
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  Speaker 5: a dangerous spot. I just don't get it. But that's
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  Speaker 5: my frustration. I thought our guys did a decent job
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  Speaker 5: working through that and keeping on tasks, especially shorthand.
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  Speaker 4: One last thing, real quick, one last question. Did you
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  Speaker 4: receive an explanation from the ref of the call?
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  Speaker 6: Did you get any sort of explanation from me officiating
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  Speaker 6: about the thing of thing?
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  Speaker 5: No, not a good one. Yeah, what was the goalies heard?
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  Speaker 5: So it's five again? I really don't give a crap.
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  Speaker 5: It's the goalies shirt. That's that's on their d men,
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  Speaker 5: not on our guy.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, it's on Nick Nurse? What was I'm sorry, Nick
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  Speaker 1: Nurse would be a that'd be a tough health him. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Wolfrom hoops to hockey. Right after the intermission, before the
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  Speaker 1: third period started, there was a shot of Bednar visiting
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  Speaker 1: was who's he was he visiting with I'm sure was
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  Speaker 1: Kelly Sutherland, and it seemed like it was a pretty
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  Speaker 1: cordial conversation there, right, Sutherland was really I'm just curious
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  Speaker 1: as what was said there. I'm sure it was just
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  Speaker 1: Betsy's saying, listen, you're wrong. Well accept that, Yeah, you're wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Where we don't agree with the call and the end
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  Speaker 1: is the end. I can't wait to hear from Betsy
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  Speaker 1: on the show today.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry I'm in your way today.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to ask, and I'll start here MO
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  Speaker 1: the second period, Why were there so many juicy opportunities?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have to talk to coach about that. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what the hell broke down. There were some plenty
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  Speaker 2: of things broke down last night, and it tightened up
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  Speaker 2: as the game went on, thank goodness. But I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: back at the first goal for the Oilers. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: when you put Ryan Nugent Hopkins all by himself in
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  Speaker 2: the front of the net, I mean, the guy's a
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  Speaker 2: talented guy.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You did it to yourself.
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  Speaker 1: It was a couple of turnovers in your own zone. Vic.
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  Speaker 2: This is why I always say, if you're if you're
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  Speaker 2: ever watching a game that I'm calling if you have
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  Speaker 2: the puck on your stick in your own end, you
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  Speaker 2: gotta get it out.
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  Speaker 1: End of story.
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  Speaker 2: It's got to get out of the zone. Now, I
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  Speaker 2: don't I'd prefer to go all the way down if
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  Speaker 2: you need to change or whatever the case may be.
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  Speaker 2: But it just has to cross the blue line. You
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  Speaker 2: got to make them reset, and you got to reset
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  Speaker 2: on both Newgent Hopkins Nugent Hopkins goals.
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  Speaker 1: The Avs lost him in front of the cage.
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  Speaker 2: He was all by, yeah, and you're like, man, you've
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  Speaker 2: got to the guy's just too talented.
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  Speaker 1: I will say, by the way, to say a second goal.
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  Speaker 2: Was an unbelievably good redirect.
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  Speaker 1: I will say this just as I respected SGA for
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  Speaker 1: that ridiculous shot, the two shots he made that give
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  Speaker 1: and go from dry title to McDavid gorgeous. Wow. Yep.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, Buch, you get the game, tire
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  Speaker 4: and then you do the one thing you can't do,
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  Speaker 4: go back to the box.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, groove toyot mean, but but I mean mcpickles and
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  Speaker 2: dry Sidle they're two of the best players on the planet.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: They think out of the same brain. In that situation,
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  Speaker 2: it was a gorgeous play. I'll give him credit, but
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  Speaker 2: again I don't. I just there's a lot I didn't
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  Speaker 2: like about that.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna do our own again this year too, right,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: our Altitude Sports Radio peeps, you're gonna do our own.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I mean we're in I guess what everybody else we're in.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: But we have a little competition. Inside the competition we do.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean just battling against ourselves. We did
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: last year, Yeah, I think I finished last in that.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well I'm gonna win it this year.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Great from Ross on the text line, it's windy as
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: blank today. You clowns better entertain me to make up
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: for it. Just for that, Ross, guess what we're gonna do.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do cogent topical to the core sports talk
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: radio today.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Hey Ross, I'm not sure if you're watching on Altitude
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Television or Twitch or on YouTube.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Let me give you a little.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Every conversation to be a clown for him, be a clown.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: This is for a Ross. This for a Ross. No no, no,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: no no. Dun dun dun d Okay that I.
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: Don't have any clowns.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, there is a million things I want to talk about,
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: but I gotta tell you the Ravens backing out of
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: this Crosby deal too. In a few short hours later,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: come to terms with Trey Hendrickson on a four year,
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: one hundred and twelve million dollar contract. Seems crazy. It
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: smells like, yeah, we'll get to it next, all right,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: So we're gonna get to BAM's game in a little bit.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: I'm glad to hear that Vick is on the same
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: page as I am, because I thought I was going
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: to be alone on an island today. Everybody's talking about
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: how cool that was. I don't think that was cool.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: I thought it was ridiculous.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: So it's fake.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Manufactured, it's manufactured so we'll get to that in a
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: little bit. Now there's something else that feels fake.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I I don't think.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: People properly understand here what just took place in the
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: NFL over the last twenty four hours. You had the
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: trade of one of the best players in the history
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: of the Raiders franchise. And I know how many great
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: players they had. From a straight talent perspective, Max Crosby's
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: up there. When you trade somebody like that, and then
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: the second after you make the trade, moj you make
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: subsequent moves that take cap space, that replace the guy
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: that you're missing. You're also planning on what you're going
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: to do with the brand new acquired draft picks that
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: you've gotten in the trade. You're doing all of this
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: on the fly for after that wave happens where you
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: make all of those moves, a team backs out. By
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: the way, the Ravens have a history of this. It's
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: the third time since twenty eighteen they have backed out
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: on either a free agency or trade deal because of
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: a failed physical. Happened in twenty eight eighteen with Ryan
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Grant that they signed a four year, twenty nine million
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: dollar contract to It happened in twenty twenty in a
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: trade that they made for Michael Brockers that they backed
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: out of and now Max Crosby to do that and
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: then in the span of a couple of hours signed
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Feels really fishy, really fish It feels incredibly How do
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: the kids see it now, Vick?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: How do they see it now?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: With a sus that's total sus, Sus, dude, that's SUSA.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Even my wife says sus from time to time.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: That's sus.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: But here's the ripple effect, sus. The ripple effect, moje is.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Teams in the Ravens division might have made moves thinking
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: they were facing Max Rosby.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: That is correct.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Teams across the league, the Broncos might have not made
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: moves thinking Max Crosby's not in the division Anymoay, okay,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: it affects everybody.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I totally understand and I don't disagree. But if this
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: is such a vile act the Baltimore Ravens, why hasn't
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the NFL become involved. Maybe they were sold a bill
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: of goods, Maybe they were told something by the Raiders
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: that wasn't true. Well, the Raiders kept him out.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: There was a big consternation between the Raiders and Crosby
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: toward the end of the season.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Remember that they wanted him out. They don't want him
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: to play, and he's like, I'm fine, I can play.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: And the Diana Rasini thing we saw this morning, Vic, Basically,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: it's in the short term he looks okay, but in
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: the long term teams have concern about his knee.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Understood, We'll see about that. But I don't understand how
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a deal of this consequence gets reversed a week after
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the fact, or how many days after the fact, two,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: two days, couple three? How does it get reversed?
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Paton had already said congratulations and whatever.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: With all that money at stake, all the money spent
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: by the Raiders, you can't just retract that.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Two hundred and eighty three million dollars.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: They just can't go back on that.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Well, they technically they could, but they said, I'm honoring
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: the contract that we sign. I'm not going to do
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: that to the guys that we sign in free agency.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: So the league has to act, don't The league has
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: to say something?
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Well, Vic, you said, why wouldn't the league do anything?
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Do you think the aspiration thing with the Clippers is
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: probably real.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Just top the top of your head. Who do you
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: think is in the wrong here, the Raiders or the Ravens.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Ravens, No, will not necessarily because it's their right to
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: refuse the trade. If they don't like the physical, it's
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: it's their right to do that.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Here's my question.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: This is this is totally different if they didn't sign
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson right after.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: The most most. You've been around long enough to know
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: if a team wants to pass you on your physical,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: they will pass. There's no doubt. If a team wants
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: to fail you on the physical, they will fail you
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: on the physical. Nowhere in any sport is that is
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: loosely monitored as it is in the National Football League.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: It's like buying a house.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: It's it's even if you the house is perfect and
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: you do an inspection, you say, you know what, I
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: don't like the looks of that light song.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: You could get out of you You're out of it.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: So in technicals, I mean, in the moral sense, you're
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: both correct. It's on the Ravens. In the technical sense,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: they're allowed to get out of it. I blamed the
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: league because why are you Why is anything announced before
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: physicals even taken.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: You know what this is going to do. This is
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: going to open up a whole avenue now.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: And then being able to trade at the free agency
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: right at that timeline and screw everything up. The league's
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: bylaws and the CBA has allowed this to happen.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: I would have a lot less of a problem with
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: this if not the exact time, the calendar.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: That way, the domino effect. If this was if this was.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: In March, I don't think I I'm sorry. If this
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: was in June May, I don't think I care.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: But the domino effect is in play. What if there
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: was another team in line for Lindebaum the center right,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: and they made bid, and and they lost on that
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: bid because the Raiders utbid him. Well, if the Raiders
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: still like Crosby, they couldn't now bid them, so that
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: team moses out too. There are a lot of teams
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that are affected by this, for sure.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this isn't just between the Ravens and the Raiders.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: It's it's kind of everybody in the league. Now, do
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: I think that something's gonna happen out of this, No,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: But think about this for a second. First of all,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Max Crosby's.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Gotta be pissed. Pissed.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: I do remember this happened with the Nuggets.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Do you remember this?
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: They traded Bull Bowl, he failed his physical and had
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: to go back to the locker room afterwards.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, God, that's gotta be weird. Remember it happened
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: with the Lakers last year. They sent Dalton connect to
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the Hornets or that center and it lasted a week?
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Was that Mark Williams?
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Mark Williams, it lasted a week and then a week
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: later they're like, eh.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Never mind, Eh, So Crosby's got to be pissed. Here's
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: the other thing. This really affects the Raiders in this ends.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: If a trade doesn't go through because of a failed
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: physical or because of medical concerns, what does that do
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: to your trade stock with that guy? Now that you
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: definitely can't keep that plummets. They're getting two first rounders
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: again for him. I wouldn't think if some team just said, uh,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: the whole reason on nixing this trade is that risk
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: is not worth the value I just traded.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: And because now you got the Raiders in a tough spot,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I have to deal them. No, you exactly, they can't
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: keep them. It puts the Raiders in a tight spot. Now,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not crying for the Raiders or anything, but messed up.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's messed up.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: There's no way he possibly could ever play for them again, right,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: no chance.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: There's something about the Ravens. I don't trust me too.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: There's something fishy over there, and it's been that way
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: for a long time. That organization? Is it when Harbaugh
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: was running it? Well he's gone, I know. But it's
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: just something about the Baltimore ravel. They did.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Remember with Vic Fangio, they had had the game in hand.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: They should have been taken a knee, but they had
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Lamar run to the left side to get that hundred
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: yard streak continued or whatever.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said. Why do I have this?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I have no reason not to. I have no reason
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: to dislike the Ravens, but I do. I just don't
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: like them. I never have, I never will. Why help
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: me understand.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: You know, I kind of feel the same way. I
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: don't have an answer for you. This is some shady
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: business though.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I don't like this though, Steve Stephen, I have no
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: reason to dislike your flute, you know, I just I huh,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Steve's flute. I have no reason to dislike it. I
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: just it just I agree with you. Sometimes you just
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: get a feel.
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: Maybe you need to take a good lung look at
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: my flute most see if that changes your mind.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I'll show you my flute, all right. I mean, I
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: like the feel of this hoodie. Shout out Cartail Golf hoodies,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the amazing material, the best hoodies. There's a certain feel
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: you have about certain teams and certain players and Baltimore.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: The Ravens give you that feel. They're a shady business
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: anti the anti cartel. They're a shady business operation.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: By the way, I have mine at home in the closet,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: and I got my stuff out last night.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I'll wear this in the morning. Kay.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: I almost wore it again, but I thought, man, I'd
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: wear this so often. I don't want to be on
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: the show and have flax or one of these knuckleheads
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: on the old Twitter.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: That's a great story.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: He most you wore that last week too, What do
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: you That's a hell but it just feels so good.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Why do you give these people so much power?
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I don't care because they're idiots.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Don't give them power. You have power, they don't have
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: any So here's the other thing. Oh, we don't have
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: enough time. No, I'll save it. Get to BAM in
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: a second. Because it's all over these TVs. I can't
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: take it. So we'll do that in just.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Are you watching over the US? Yeah, we can do
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: that's you're watching BAM as well.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Here's the problem I have with that game yesterday in
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: the WBC. My my main issue is this mose. When
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: the NHL busted out the four nations, it was a
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: new thing, and you wondered how seriously these players would
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: take it, because it's not the Olympics, but it is
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: competing for your country, and they took it incredibly seriously.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: They wore that as a badge of honor to play
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: for their country. Sure, here's my beef with the US.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: I don't think these players feel that way, and every
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: other country does right now. Have you watched the way Dominican, Cuba,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Puerto Rico, Mexico, how their fans are reacting, how their
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: players are reacting to this thing. And Bryce Harper said,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: before this start, before this entire thing started, Bryce Harper said, Hey, man,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: it's not the Olympics, you know, it's not that big
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: a d and it's like, well, are you gonna care
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: about playing in this thing or not? And yesterday you
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: know's on the bump for Italy.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Michael Lorenz and the Rockies.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Fine Rockies pitcher who is getting the hell beat out
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: of him in spring training, shut down the US roster
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: for four and two.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Thirds, Yes, muscle bound Michael Lorenz and dude, that guy's
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: got some tanks.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, he does four and two thirds scoreless baseball.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: So Italy wins eight to six.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: They're up eight to nothing.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the Nelly. Here's the interview with the Italian
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: baseball team afterwards.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Lomi see Grito Lommi, because you see Melorie Gorlami. So
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: this little hush us whispering with Nelly, that's that's the
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: big final you have. There's more, there's more. That's that's
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: the big that's the big ones. This is also what
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: they said when they were walking off the feet. That's
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: not funny to me. None of that is funny to me.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: They actually have a whole bunch of Italian dudes on
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: that round.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, but the guy, the guy who went three for
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: four yesterday, Jack.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Jack Callian. You've never heard of that guy. He was
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: his name is Jeff and he's from Tampa. Okay, listen
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: what youre talking about.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: His name is Jack, that's his nickname.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: His name is Jeff. Did you watch him last year?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, he played at Florida. I know his whole background.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Jeff played for Camabas City. I know he plays for
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the Royals. I understand that I'm saying he played at Florida.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: He's from Tampa like his great great grandma. One time
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: got down with an Italian guy in Sicily.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: And wait a minute, you're you're focusing on the wrong details,
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: because I want to be mad about this. Okay, this
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: is the Italian call of Italy beating the US.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Put the correct buys. Litania Bastia, Litania back easy. My
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: man's most classic Li Danias. Do you need your used
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: on the otto as? Say? Hell, Laura.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: It's the biggest upset in WBC history.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Now number two.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: This like Mark Durosa is the manager of the US,
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Mark de Rosa has been interviewed for managerial jobs in
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: the MLB. Mark de Rosa is gonna have to answer
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: this every time he gets another interview. This is what
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: he said before the game.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Tont of respect for Italy. It's it's weird. We want
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: to win. We want to win this game, even though.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Our tickets punched at a quarterfinals because Mexico plays Italy
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: actually tomorrow.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: So this the way, the way the schedule lines up,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: This is an important game for US.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Entirely incorrect.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: The US has a very very good shot of getting
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: bounced before this thing even goes for you all the
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: tie breakers here, so it's runs allowed divided by outs
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: or some crap like that, some stupid formula that is
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: worse than the NHL playoff formula. So how it works. Basically,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: the US needs like an eight to seven game. Okay,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: and I had the situation pulled up whatever. They put
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: themselves in a tough spot, but horrible.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: And here's by the way, Deroso, who found out I
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: guess after they lost that that's not the case, said this.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I misspoke. I was on hot stove with a
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: couple buddies today and completely misread, misread decalculations. We knew
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: that Mexico is going to play Italy and then running
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: all the numbers with if we lost tonight, with the
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: runs allowed and run scored and outs. So I just misspoke.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Yet he didn't misspeak. You didn't know, and that's even worse.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: So yeah, go ahead.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Here's my problem, moj what's to stop Italy? Because I
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: if I understand the tiebreaker scenarios correctly, do you guys
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: remember the week eighteen game or seventeen They can't remember
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: seventeen or eighteen weeks at that point.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: But when the.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Chargers played the Raiders, the game is about to end
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: in a tie those years ago, we're going to advance
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: to the playoffs. The Chargers called the time out and
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: for some reason gave the Raiders an opportunity to kick
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: the field goal. Right, what's to stop Italy from losing
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: the game one to nothing? Have a handshake agreement?
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Because I think if that's the scenario, both of them advance,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: that's not very what's to stop them from doing well,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: that's not sports. The Italians wouldn't do that. They would
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: switch sides, but they would. That sounds a lot to
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: me like the war. You have handshake agreements in the
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: it's a different.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, we have a history of Italy just changing
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: to you know, support the victors.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I mean they do have a history.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's a good point. I'm playing both sides that way,
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: I never lose.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: They want to be on the right side of history. Huh, Hey,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: who is Pete crow?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Armstrong's amazing? He's a great Oh, I know he's He
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: had two dongs in that game that were just he
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: went down and got him.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: He was an All Star last year.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: He went down and got him.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: That being said, that's a problem.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: The US is so talented. What are we doing?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Team Italy had a guy go to for two yesterday
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: with a double and a dog. Kyle Teal, a good
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Italian named Teal. Okay, he's the first round selection, but
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: by the Red Sox back in twenty twenty three. Guy
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: can play a catcher, Guy can play now. He plays
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: for the White Sox. Last year hit two seventy three
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: with eight dogs. Okay.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: All this proves to me is that people will go
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to the extreme to find their Italian.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Kyle ten Round Teal t e e L. Kyle Henry
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Teel grew up in Jersey.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Hey, close enough, what was your neighbor at Dallia? You
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: can play for?
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: If Kyle Teal walked down the streets of Rome, there's
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: not a human alive that would recognize him.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Right, let me give you thirty seconds to nerd out
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: on this because The Glorious Bastards is one of my favorite.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Dude, I let you guys in these these cuts. Riven
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: der Chies's not like Mangti. It's not a deep cut
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: of the movie. I mean it's a very famous part.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: But listen, you have a history of being anti Italian.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: So I'm watching you closely today.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Well you decided to come in today of all days,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: just thirty seconds. Let me nerd out because I love
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Tarantino movies. So before they go in there, they said,
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be the lead in this because I speak
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: the most Italian.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Well, for all you said Italian. That's how he says it.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: That's how Brad Pitt says it. He goes, you're gonna
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: be second because you speak second most, and you'll be
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: third because you speak third most, and he goes, I
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: don't speak Italian like I said, sad third most. And
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: then in that scene, Christoph Waltz has them all repeat
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: their names as you're hearing, and the guy who says
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: dominate the Coco, he pats him on the back and says,
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Bravo dominic the Coco. Dominiq de Coco, Bravo, Bravo, which
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: tells them immediately. He knows that they're fake. Because if
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: you ever introduced yourself to somebody and said, hey, I'm
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Vick Lombardy and they say, great job, nice job.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Do you guys want awards this movie? I'm just nerding.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Let me nerd out. I can nerd out for a second.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: You're allowed to be a herd.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: Hey.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Nonetheless, wherever Italy has to get their baseball players and
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I am, I'm a sort of honorary Italian, I'm in.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I'm in for it. I mean, listen, they don't. It's
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: not their thing. I wish the USA would go get
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: people from around the world to play for US. I
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I was just more impressed. Michael Lorenzen is the most
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: jacked Rockies player since Matt how No, since Zach Vianes.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Zach Vi I forgot about Zach boss stars. Dude, they
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: got it. They had jacked outfielders, they had jack pitchers.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: What you do this offseason, Zach?
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: I pulled semi trailers the entire time. That's what I did,
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: all right, three out of three, five oh four Pacific
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: back after this, all right, so listen, I can't take it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: You call me a hater, coming whenever you want. I
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: don't care.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Bam out of Bio's eighty three point game yesterday was despicable.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: It was awful.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: It's everything that's wrong with basketball. Like no other player
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: took more than ten field goal attempts. And I know
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: there's not necessarily an ethical way you can get to
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: eighty three. You you gotta be a ball hog to
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: get there. Kobe did it, but.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: There has to be a team plan look to try
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: to get you to eighty three points.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: A buddy texted me the other day and he goes,
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: I know it's not the Nuggets, but are you watching
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: the Heat game. I'm like, no, I'm not watching the
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Heat on a night where.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Oh jeez, Paul.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: No.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: But I'm glad he did because he sends me a
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: screenshot of the box score. He goes, this is the
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: first quarter, and I saw Bam at thirty one. I
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: was like, what the hell is going on here? And
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: so I just kept keeping tabs, Like every twenty minutes,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: I'd look at the box score again. It's like he's
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: at forty five. He said fifty seven. With three minutes
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: left in the third, he took forty three field goal attempts, correct,
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: but he also had forty three free throw attempts, which
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know how many of those were, and ones
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: that he shot. Let's give him some grace and say
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: that he had seven and ones in that game. That means,
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: on top of the forty three field goal attempts that
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: he took that counted in the box score, he took
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: at least eighteen extra shots, which would put him at
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: sixty one.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: What are we doing?
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: And you want me to take this eighty three point game? Seriously?
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I raise my head. I covered the NBA, I worked
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: in the NBA. I'm embarrassed for the NBA. It was awesome.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed for the NBA. You know a sport where
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: that would never happen hockey? Hockey. Could you imagine if
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: in a hockey game, the whole point was to get
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Nathan McKinnon ten goals, and they kept feeding Nate and
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: then kept first of all, it'd never happen.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: And Nate finishes the game with thirty five shots on
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: goals or something.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: It would never happen, right, Yeah, the hockey players aren't
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: wired that way. What do you think the opposing team
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: would do if it got to that point. Oh, they'd
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: kill him.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Most what would the opposing team do if the plan
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: was to get one player a bunch of shots and
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: attempts on goal, they would They would blow that guy up.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: They'd blow they blow it up. He'd leave the game
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: in peace. Yep, So you embarrassed the league last night.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: You embarrassed the game last night. It was clearly artificial.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: They obviously went out of their way to do it.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: My favorite part of the whole game was late when
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: the Washington players finally woke up and they started triple
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: teaming Bam. It's like, no, it was too late at
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: that point, because he was already on his way. They
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: were gonna foul him. I would have triple teamed him
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: in the first quarter.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing, Vic, They did triple team him
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: at the three point line and he still shot the ball.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he got fouled and he went to the
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: free People are gonna say, well, what's the difference between
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: that and when Kobe got his and Wilt got his?
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Nothing equally embarrassing, not to that extent, not to that,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: but because was not the same, He's not in the
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: same terrified areas those guys. But I remember when Kobe
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: got his eighty one. Well he hadn't really, but I remember,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: and I said it back then. I was like, whatever
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: a lot, what you mean to tell me today? If
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I went to Kevin Durant and the Houston Rockets and
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: they played Washington, a tanking team, by the way, you
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: need all these planets to align. You need to take
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: on a tanking team who's sitting out everybody. Oh, you're
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: blowing out exact and they want to lose anyway, So
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: all the planets aligned. If I told Kevin Durant one
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: of the most greatest assassins in basketball history, you're going
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: to get forty three free throws and you're gonna get
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: forty three field goal attempts, have at it. He'd score
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you did it for Joker, If you gave
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Joker forty three shots and forty three free throw attempts,
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: he's scoring one hundred and thirty.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: If you gave Shay Gilds to Alexander forty three and
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: thirty three, you can name your player, they would eclipse
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: one hundred points. It's artificial, it's fake, and I don't
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: you know what, all you people out there, oh, your
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: boomers is celebrated. Celebrate what volume?
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's celebrate what it's manufactured. What are we celebrating exactly?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: What's not organic?
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: What are we celebrating high valume?
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: So here's here's Kobe's box score just for reference. Okay,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: so compare these side by side. He was twenty eight
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: of forty six from the floor. He was seven of
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: thirteen from three, and eighteen of twenty from the line,
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: only twenty three throws. Bam was twenty of forty three,
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: seven of twenty two from three, which is the biggest
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: disgrace of all of it, that Bam is taking twenty
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: two to three points and then forty three free.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Throw attempts he made thirty six. Miami missing shots on
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: purpose late to get the ball back, Yes, Fouling guys
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: on purpose to stop the clock.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: Fouling quickly to get the ball, yes.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Embarrassing. That's an embarrassment to the NBA, It's an embarrassment
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: to competition. It's an embarrassing embarrassment to sports and anybody
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: who defends it. Enjoy field day.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Can I ask you a question, by the way, Vick
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: of the rest of that lineup. Here's the other four
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: starters in the starting five from Miami, Myron Gardner, Davion Mitchell,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: Pel Larson, Kasparis yak Jonas. Who are those people?
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Cus? What is a hell again? All the planets alone?
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: You're playing, You're playing a team that wants to lose. Okay,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: here here's a great question. What about the people who
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: just look at it as entertainment?
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Vic?
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: That's from Guru. No, no, no, let me answer the question.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: You know those people that want just entertainment, that's what
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: the WWE is for. It's scripted in fake Go there,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: you want entertainment, Go there watching glorious bastards. You want entertainment,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: watching a pretty good movie. It's fake. That's not competition,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: it's not real. It's artificial. It's rehearsed.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: So, like, can I give you guys an example. When
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: I was in Nebraska, there's this big story about this
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: kid in Iowa at a college named Grinnell.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I know, I'm very well aware of that that the
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: college is notorious for producing ridiculous scoring because they shoot
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the ball, don't play defense, blah blah blah.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Well, there's a guy named Jack Taylor years ago on that.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I remember that, Nelly. Can you give me the numbers
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: from Jack Taylor?
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: So, Jack Taylor set the record for most points scored
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: in a in a NCAA basketball game with one hundred
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: and thirty eight in that game for his one hundred
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: thirty eight points he shot, he attempted seventy one to
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: three pointers, seventy one he hit thirty five. Let me see,
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: he did this every game. I gotta find the right
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: box score here. Apologizing, but he.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Scored like one hundred and twenty points or something, hundred
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: thirty eight. Yeah, one hundred and thirty eight.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: That's not real.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: Okay, nobody takes that seriously, and I'm not taking Bams
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: seriously either. I'm actually shocked.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Vic.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: You know, I have a lot of respect for Eric Spolstra.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: I think he's he's the best coach.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Bolster should be embarrassed.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: I can't believe Spoilster allowed that day.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I can't believe it either. I can't believe pat Riley's
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: organization allowed yet to happen.
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: Okay, apologies here, Jack Taylor. He played thirty six minutes
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: in that game. He was fifty two of one hundred
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: and eight from the field.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Jeez, Luis.
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: He went twenty seven for seventy one from three point range.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: It's insane. That's embarrassing. They heard lies the difference though.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Grinnell plays that style and they do it every night,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: and they that's their style. I'm not gonna trend then,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: but that's their style. I know a lot of people
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: that have gone to Grennell. They sign up for that.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: That's how they play. Bam Autobio is not a high
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: volume shooter. No, it was fake Vick.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I'll say this the only the Lake Gray Peter bing
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: nabb the nineteen seventy seven seventy eight Boston Bruins set
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: an NHL record. Eleven different guys had at least twenty
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: goals and McNabb led the way with forty one, and
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: then there were ten other guys with at least twenty
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: and I forget who it was. One of the guys
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: that they're trying to get to the record. They're trying
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: to get to to twenty and he had a bonus
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: coming up and all this kind of thing, and he's.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Like, the were like five games to go in the season.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: He can't score. Noah from Long Mount on the text
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: line says Funneling the game through your best available player
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: isn't a good strategy. Whatever, fellas, I'll be fueling the
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: game through your best available player isn't a good strategy. Okay,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: all right, if that's the case, Noah, it's that case.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: The next time Miami plays, every shot should go through BAM, correct, right?
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Is that the strategy?
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: So every game Miami plays from here on out, BAM
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: should get what forty field goal attempts. Yeah, I mean
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: he's their best available player. Correct. If that lineup is served,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: that's what they should do. Correct, That's what we're doing.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Just keep funneling that player. You know what this speaks
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: to more the opposition, and I'm glad this came up.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I'm glad this came up because I want to talk
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: about how you react to things that happen on let's
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: say a basketball court. If you're the Washington Wizards and
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: you're watching this guy do that, what the hell are
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you doing? What the hell are you doing? What are
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: you doing? You to be fair?
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: What are you supposed to do? Foul him and send
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: him to the line.
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: It got me to thinking about the Nuggets. They played
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: tonight against the Houston Rockets who played last night and won.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: The Rockets won last night, and so did Houston Houston one,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: and so did who else won? The Lakers won. They
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: beat Minnesota and a third team involved in that playoff,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Chase San Antonio one. So everybody keeps winning, the Nuggets
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: have to start winning. Yeah, I have another thought on
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: what went down. And okay, see.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: Most do you want to finish your Peter McNabb's story.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I just say, at the very end, the guy
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: couldn't score, so they said, just go to the front
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: of the net. We're going to shoot it at you.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Eventually one bounced in.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Often, Oh, were you in the middle of a story? Well,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I was toward the end. No, your stories are so long.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know long. A very short line.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: It was a very short story. Yeah, they said just
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: go to the there was like four games left. Go
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: to the front of the net. We're going to shoot
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: it at you and hopefully it hits you. And it did,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: and they got the twenty goals, and yeah, they set
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: the record.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: You're irritating just because it's bam if Nikola Jokic tepped
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: at forty three field goals in forty three free throws.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: How would you guys feel about that? I would hate it.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: First of all, he would never do that, Yes, he would.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Would Nikola Jokicchul be the guy to do that.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: Never, he would never do it. Jared Bednar is going
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: to join us at eight forty this morning.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Stick around