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Bonus Episode: Hüsker Dü, A Disgo's Unbelievable Red Sox Story, and Lil' Kim's Post-Prison Career · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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  Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Disgraceland after Bertie.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, A little thing we
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  Speaker 1: like to call the after party. This is the show
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  Speaker 1: after the show, the party after the party, the bridge
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  Speaker 1: to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to
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  Speaker 1: the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. On
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  Speaker 1: this episode we are talking about Lil Kim, a literal
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox heartbreaker from a caller fiddler, and of course
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  Speaker 1: your voicemails, text, dms and more and as always, a
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  Speaker 1: whole lotter Rosie. All right, disc goes, let's get into it. Yes, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Disgrace LANMD bonus episode where we are
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  Speaker 1: hoping to not purgere ourselves and get sent to the
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  Speaker 1: big house. Like this week's subject of Disgraceland, Lil Kim,
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  Speaker 1: Little Kim on record might be the baddest female artists
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  Speaker 1: of them all. As we outlined in this week's full
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  Speaker 1: episode of Little Kim in Disgraceland and Off Record, Little
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  Speaker 1: Kim was also.
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  Speaker 3: Bad, bad, bad.
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  Speaker 1: Lying is bad. Lying is not good in any aspect
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  Speaker 1: of your life, and it will not get you very
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  Speaker 1: far in criminal court, okay. And shootouts. Shootouts are also
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  Speaker 1: you got it, bad shootouts in broad daylight, especially bad
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of a major city like downtown Manhattan.
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  Speaker 1: Also the makings of bad, bad individuals. The crime, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: the crime here at the heart of the Little Kim story.
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  Speaker 1: It's again detail in the full episode. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to go through the whole thing again, but what I
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  Speaker 1: want to drill down into here in this bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: the part of the story that I thought was interesting
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  Speaker 1: that I didn't get to spend a lot of time
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  Speaker 1: on sometime, but not a lot of time on in
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  Speaker 1: the full episode, is the punishment for the crime that
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  Speaker 1: Little Kim committed. And look, it's a simple story. Little
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  Speaker 1: Kim and her crew. They were involved in a shootout.
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  Speaker 1: Little Kim lied on the stand to protect her crew,
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  Speaker 1: and Little Kim was proven to be a liar. She
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  Speaker 1: perjured herself. She was sentenced to real time a year
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  Speaker 1: in a day, and she did almost all that time.
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  Speaker 1: She got out on her good behavior a couple months
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  Speaker 1: shaved off her sentence or something like that I can't remember.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly what it was.
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  Speaker 1: The judge who this is ridiculous. The judge who sentenced
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  Speaker 1: Little Kim was inspired by Martha Stewart's sentencing for her
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  Speaker 1: crime of insider trading. But Martha Stewart got to do
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  Speaker 1: her time in a minimum security prison that Little Kim
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  Speaker 1: was sent to Philadelphia Federal Detention Center. Now argue whether
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  Speaker 1: or not that's fair or not, or what the reasons
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  Speaker 1: behind it were. The type of crime that Little Kim
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  Speaker 1: perjured herself over versus the type of crime that Martha
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  Speaker 1: Stewart was involved with. But lying is lying, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: the punishments here were different. Okay, Little Kim, like Martha Stewart, though,
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  Speaker 1: thrived After her release from prison, Little Kim dropped her
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  Speaker 1: fourth album, The Naked Truth from Behind Bars. It was
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  Speaker 1: something like her first week in jail or something in prison.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me that that record came out and it was
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  Speaker 1: a smash and for a moment there upon Little Kim's
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  Speaker 1: release and throughout the mid odds, her career thrived like
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  Speaker 1: it was. It was a whole other thing. It was
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  Speaker 1: a whole new act. It was huge. It was massive,
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  Speaker 1: I mean record sales, big, albums, the whole the whole
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  Speaker 1: thing shows everything. So you know, the question is this
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  Speaker 1: is what I want to get into. There's the issue
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  Speaker 1: of the punishment. Was the punishment fair right? The judge
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  Speaker 1: was said to have been inspired by Martha Stewart sentencaying,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what influenced the sentence sing of Little Kim.
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  Speaker 1: Yet the types of prisons they were sentenced to were
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  Speaker 1: two totally different things. Okay, so number one was the
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  Speaker 1: punishment fair. Number two to going to prison help Kim's
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  Speaker 1: career did help her career thrive. It's my opinion that
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  Speaker 1: prison definitely helped Tupac's career after he got out of jail,
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  Speaker 1: California Love Banger banger single and his death row profile.
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  Speaker 1: Post prison, he was huge, huge, and again California Love
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  Speaker 1: might be his best song. Lil Wayne weapons and drug charges.
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  Speaker 1: It resulted in an eight to twelve month sentence. We
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  Speaker 1: detailed the Lil Wayne stuff back in season seven of Disgraceland.
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  Speaker 1: Post prison, Low Wayne, huge, okay, huge even now he's
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  Speaker 1: nothing if not culturally relevant, He's massive. Steve Earle, Steve Earl.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if a lot of you know Steve Earl.
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  Speaker 1: He's this hardcore troubadour Americana country guy, great songwriter, you know,
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  Speaker 1: was supposed to be the heir to Bob Dylan. Started
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  Speaker 1: hanging around with guns n' roses in the eighties, got
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  Speaker 1: hooked on a lot of drugs, did time for narcotics
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  Speaker 1: beef and wrote an incredible record Train of Coming from
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  Speaker 1: Behind Bars. And you know when he did that, he
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  Speaker 1: got out of jail. That record came out and he
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  Speaker 1: get a Grammy nomination for the album after his release
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  Speaker 1: from prison. Merle Haggard another country guy much earlier than
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  Speaker 1: Steve Ear. Obviously, his entire career came post prison time
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  Speaker 1: in San Quentin. Paul McCartney. Paul McCartney, he did time.
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  Speaker 1: It was only ten days and it was in nineteen eighty,
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  Speaker 1: but it was in a real prison in Japan. And
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  Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. But Paul McCartney has had
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  Speaker 1: quite the career over the past forty years. So what
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  Speaker 1: about the musicians who are currently behind bars? YNW. Melly
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  Speaker 1: or what about take K forty seven or Big Lurch,
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  Speaker 1: two artists that we covered back in season one of
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  Speaker 1: Disgracelander or R Kelly who's in jail right now? Who
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  Speaker 1: we haven't covered who I'm waiting to cover who I'm
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  Speaker 1: still trying to figure out how to cover, or or
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  Speaker 1: Suge Knight. I know sug Knight is not a musician,
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  Speaker 1: but he's definitely the music industry. Uh. He's been featured
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  Speaker 1: heavily on the show, in multiple episodes on Tupac and
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  Speaker 1: then Notorious Big. When these guys get out, more specifically
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  Speaker 1: these artists, are they gonna have careers if they get out?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 1: Are they gonna have bigger careers? Six one seven, nine
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  Speaker 1: oh six, six six three eight. Let me know your answer,
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  Speaker 1: and let me know which musician has had the best
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  Speaker 1: post prison career in your eyes, Lil kim Merle Haggard,
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  Speaker 1: Lil Wayne, Paul McCartney. And assuming they're ever released, can
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  Speaker 1: we expect any careers at all from r Kelly take
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  Speaker 1: or Big Lurch. I think I know the answer to
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  Speaker 1: that one, but I'm gonna ask anyways. Six one seven
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  Speaker 1: nine oh six, six six three eight. Leave your answer
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  Speaker 1: via voicemail or text, or you can hit me at
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  Speaker 1: this Gray lampod on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, wherever, Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be back in the flash.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we are back, and you know the drill,
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  Speaker 1: as I said there at the end of that block
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  Speaker 1: six one seven nine oh six six six three eight,
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  Speaker 1: to send a text or leave a voicemail like Amber
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  Speaker 1: here from North Carolina in the two five.
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  Speaker 4: Two, Hey Jake, it's Amber from North Carolina. And the
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  Speaker 4: two I gotta say. My top five are Lupe Fiasco,
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  Speaker 4: Brother Ali, Biggy, Atmosphere and I don't know. I guess
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  Speaker 4: I'll throw on Twist or Common or one of those two.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Thanks for the great work up in a
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  Speaker 4: long time listener, Keep up, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Thanks for the voicemail Amber. Amber was kind enough
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  Speaker 1: to send us to send in her top five MC's.
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  Speaker 1: This is a question that surfaced in one of our
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  Speaker 1: bonus episodes from a couple of days back. Solid List.
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  Speaker 1: But Amber, I don't know that I have any of
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  Speaker 1: your top fives on my list. Mine are decidedly more
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  Speaker 1: old school and will likely generate much side eye from
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  Speaker 1: you youngins. Number one, I Go ice Cube, number two,
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  Speaker 1: Jay Z three, Slick Rick four, Chuck D five. Can
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  Speaker 1: I say all three Beastie Boys for number five? Can I?
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  Speaker 1: I can't. I'm making up the rules, so That's what
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. Ad Rock Mike d MCA combined for
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  Speaker 1: number five. That's my top five MC list. Got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of incoming on this. I feel like this deserves
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  Speaker 1: its own sort of episode or something. There's Like I
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  Speaker 1: said in our mini episode, the fiftieth anniversary of hip
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  Speaker 1: hop is coming up. I want to explore this question
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  Speaker 1: more Top five MC's of all time. We've got fifty
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  Speaker 1: years to choose from? Is eminem on this list? Who else?
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  Speaker 1: Who are we forgetting? Who are we not talking about? Nas? God,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many, Lil Wayne, there's there's so many here
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  Speaker 1: that we should probably litigate to some degree. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: exactly sure in what forum, but I want to dig
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  Speaker 1: in a little deeper. Six one seven, nine oh six
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  Speaker 1: six six three eight. We'll get into more of your
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  Speaker 1: top five mcs. Keep the recommendations on that one coming
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  Speaker 1: your suggestions let me know, all right. I've been talking
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  Speaker 1: a lot about sports lately, mainly baseball and a little
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: basketball sort of with some levity, but mainly baseball because
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: I'm once again obsessed with the sport. And despite the
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: Red Sox and how they've been playing this year, though
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: they have been good, over the last weekend, they just
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  Speaker 1: swept the Yankees, and I was there for one of
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: the games. Yeah, I'm just I'm all in on the
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: Red Sox. I'm all in on the College World Series
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  Speaker 1: for the first time in my life. I'm all in
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  Speaker 1: on the Miami Marlins as a National League team. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of this has to do with my kids. I
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  Speaker 1: talked about this before, but we got this message here.
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  Speaker 1: This might be a Hall of Fame disgraced voicemail here
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  Speaker 1: from Mark in the four to oh one.
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  Speaker 5: Let's listen to it, Jake, this is mock in Providence.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to speak nice and slow. I'm not going
• 10:08
  Speaker 5: to overmodulate. The Boston Red Sox. The last home game
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  Speaker 5: I saw was October first, two thousand and four, Sunday night.
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  Speaker 5: The Red Slobs were down all and three. I had ticket,
• 10:21
  Speaker 5: I had box seats near my girlfriend. We were freezing out,
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  Speaker 5: fucking asses off. In the fourth running inning, I said, Pat,
• 10:29
  Speaker 5: let's get the hell out of here. We jump, We
• 10:32
  Speaker 5: get on the tee, drive out to the get out
• 10:36
  Speaker 5: in the t station with thirteen stops, get in the
• 10:40
  Speaker 5: cargo home. Red Sox famously stole a base, David Ortiz
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  Speaker 5: hit a home run. They won the Royal Series.
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  Speaker 4: I left.
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  Speaker 5: I'm the joke of the town. Can't believe it. First
• 10:51
  Speaker 5: game and then following year in two thousand and five,
• 10:54
  Speaker 5: they get their rings. Guy across the street says, I'm pumped.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to watch this game. I took the day off.
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  Speaker 5: I was working in a bank. They heled me a
• 11:02
  Speaker 5: day off. Within one hour of the game starting, the
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  Speaker 5: ambulances pull up to his house. He died of a
• 11:10
  Speaker 5: fucking hot attack. He was so excited. He owned the
• 11:13
  Speaker 5: old time. It's tap in Providence, Rhode Island. True story,
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  Speaker 5: none of it nothing, none.
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  Speaker 4: Of it's fault.
• 11:18
  Speaker 5: If you want google it. That was the first opening
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  Speaker 5: day of nineteen of two thousand and five. But I
• 11:24
  Speaker 5: was there two thousand and four, and I missed the
• 11:26
  Speaker 5: whole motherfucking thing. Okay, trying not to overmodulate. That was
• 11:31
  Speaker 5: a terrible phone call I made thanks Rock and Roller.
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  Speaker 1: Wild story Mark, Dude. I don't even know what to
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: say except the channel my inner de Niro and from
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  Speaker 1: Copland and just say, you blew it. You blew it.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: Should have stated that game, dude. Although I don't blame
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  Speaker 1: me for you leaving, I PROBA would have done the
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: same thing. Seriously, that's that's like just in my nature
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  Speaker 1: to do that. But uh, yeah, man, I don't I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to tell. Yeah, that's an all that's
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: an all timer. That story belongs in like a fucking
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: Matt Damon movie or something. Uh sorry to hear about
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: your friend's heart attack as well. That is brutal, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And Mark, you know you're free to overmodulate with me
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  Speaker 1: anytime you want, brother, all right. Also, Mark, you worked
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: in a bank and you're from Providence, so I'm not
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: convinced that you're not a character from the Friends of
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: Eddie Coyle. So by all means, uh, stay in touch
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: and stay out of prison. Okay, Uh, Socks might be
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: clawn back this year. Like I said earlier, I was
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: as one of the games over the weekend was supposed
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: to go uh Saturday night with my two sons and
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: my stepdad little Father's day plan. It poured out. They
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: rescheduled for Sunday and we get there, we sit down,
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  Speaker 1: Yankees go up uh two to oh first inning. It's like,
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: oh boy, this is gonna be brutal.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Then the Socks came back and they won and it
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  Speaker 1: was actually a really great game. It wasn't a blow out.
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  Speaker 1: It was close for a while and then the Socks
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  Speaker 1: went ahead comfortably. It was an awesome time. Only thing
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  Speaker 1: that was that was weird and is, like I can
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: I've been to a lot of Red Sox Yankees games
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  Speaker 1: at Fenway, and I have never ever seen this many
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  Speaker 1: Yankees fans at a Red Sox game in my life.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't fifty to fifty, but it felt like it
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  Speaker 1: at times. It felt close. It was brutal and just
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: like Yankees fans like brazen. I remember a time when
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  Speaker 1: that was not allowed at all, not even close. I
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  Speaker 1: suppose it's better than it is now, but still it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a little like what the fuck? Anyways, Yankees lost,
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  Speaker 1: Yankees got swept, all right, So there you have it. Also,
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  Speaker 1: I just gotta say to Red Sox fans, the Yankee
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  Speaker 1: suck chant right like it's it doesn't work when the
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Yankees are four games up in the standings, we sound
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: like assholes. Okay, it's an asshole chant if you're behind
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  Speaker 1: the other team, unless you're in like a division series
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  Speaker 1: or something and it's a one game playoff or something
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  Speaker 1: like that, and you know, somebody fucks up on the
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  Speaker 1: other team or stuff. I get that, but when you're down,
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: when you're down four games in the fucking standings, like,
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: come on, we're better than that, Boston. All right, enough sports,
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  Speaker 1: let's do this voicemail from the eight oh one.
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  Speaker 6: Hey dud, Yeah, man, I love your show. I love
• 14:11
  Speaker 6: the lyrical way you put your words together. I mean
• 14:13
  Speaker 6: it's not just a fantastic stories, but it's like.
• 14:16
  Speaker 5: Poetry listening to you.
• 14:18
  Speaker 6: And I really liked your thing on Robert Johnson.
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: And there's a lot of stuff.
• 14:23
  Speaker 6: For years I haven't heard yet, so hey, but I
• 14:27
  Speaker 6: was listening to your after party with Justin Bieber and
• 14:29
  Speaker 6: you're talking about bad dads, and you might check out
• 14:33
  Speaker 6: Rick Jains. He was like a kind of a pop
• 14:36
  Speaker 6: star in the seventies.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: I think it was like soul pop punk.
• 14:39
  Speaker 6: Hit bad killed him from what I understand, and alsos,
• 14:43
  Speaker 6: you could do a show about rock stars who themselves
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: are bad dads, like John Lennon. He used to brag
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: about how he loves hitting women. And John Lennon also
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: loved his first wife and child with no child support.
• 14:56
  Speaker 6: So anyway, some ideas and thanks you for the great
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: oh and got you good bye, Adios adio.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: Some Sacramento.
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: Bye.
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  Speaker 1: All right, thank you, ado one for the kind words
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: about Robert Johnson and for your listenership. A couple of things.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I believe you're a new listener, so I'm gonna just
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: give you a couple things here. Believe you're confusing Rick
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: James with Marvin Gaye. But but, but, but, ado One,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I have have no fear at to one. We have
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: episodes on both artists, including Marvin Gaye's murder at the
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: hands of his father just in time for Father's Day
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: and also on Father's Day. I hear you on John Lennon, However,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: I think the story is a little more nuanced. For
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: what I mean on that, check out the three John
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Lennon episodes that we've done, specifically the two parter that's
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: further back in the archive, and we get into his
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: relationship with with Sean not so much Julian. But yeah,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: John Lennon not a perfect guy, made some mistakes, atoned
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: for a lot of them. Definitely not a black and
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: white situation. So check that out eight oh one and
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: let me know what you think. All right, get back
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: to me. Leave another voicemail. Okay, good voicemails. Trying to
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  Speaker 1: keep these episodes tight, trying to keep them to about
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  Speaker 1: twenty five thirty minutes. So you know we've got I
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: don't know if you guys know we've got these other We've
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  Speaker 1: got this other bonus episode that was mini episode we're
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: doing excuse me on Monday's, we're teeing up the week.
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  Speaker 1: I'm answering the emails over there. Now we've got the
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: wrap party where I'm also answering voicemails and texts. Gonna
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: hope to be doing more of that on social media
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: as well, and really round out this engagement with you
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: guys as best as I possibly can. Let's though, for
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: the time being right here, move on from the voicemails
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: and get into some texts, all right. Last, let's see
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: in the pre party episode we talk about odd music
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: collaborations in our mini episode on Monday with because of
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: the little Kim Tommy Lee thing that went down, so
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I asked you guys for some of your stranger music collaborations.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Got this one from the three one four? Okay for
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: odd music collaborations. I don't know if you can get
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: any weirder than Bing Crosby and David Bowie doing Little
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Drummer boy. Yes, that is weird, super weird, but it
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: works somehow. A lot of other you guys will know
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: that one. I got a weird one coming up for
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: you here later in this in this episode. And when I
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: read that text, the reason I picked that text to read,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I read all the text in real time. I don't
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: sort of like prevet them or anything. When I read
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: it here, when I glanced at it, I read bing
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  Speaker 1: Crosby as David Crosby, and my brain went, oh my god,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: David Crosby and David Bowie collaborated together. That's fucked up.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: But of course it was the big Crosby one. All right,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: let's move on. In reference to our summer soundtrack question
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: from a couple of weeks back from the two eight one,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: we've got a text here, Summer of Love. Oh, we're
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: asking about best summer jams in light of Summertime by
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Will Smith. So two eight one writes in hijake Summer
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  Speaker 1: of Love by the b fifty Tiers, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that song Summer of sixty nine by Brian Adams. I
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  Speaker 1: know that song. I bought that on forty five when
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I was a little boy. How cheesy was I? Boys?
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  Speaker 1: Of Summer by Don Henley, yup, great one, Summer Nights
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  Speaker 1: by Grease or in Greece, I should say, and Last
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  Speaker 1: Summer by the Motels.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that one.
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  Speaker 1: And bonus track Hot Child in the City. All right.
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  Speaker 1: That's a solid list there, solid list, some classic rock
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  Speaker 1: ones there. What else we got here? From the eight
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  Speaker 1: sixty four Jake Father of all podcasts, Happy Father's Day
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  Speaker 1: from your number one fan, Elaine Laney from the eight
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  Speaker 1: six to four. Thank you Laney. I appreciate that. Let's
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: see what else we got here? Got another text here
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: from the four one? Oh is that right? It says
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: thanks for the food Fighter interview. Got my t shirt
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: been online three hours? Grab two Madonna tickets for Boston
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: eight thirty one twenty three. That's awesome, have fun at Madonna.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bummed. I bought Madonna tickets, which she
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: was supposed to come about two years ago, and maybe
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I might have been more three years ago. She canceled
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and it really pissed me off. For some reason. I
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: was really excited to go. So when she announced these shows,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I says, like, fuck that, fuck Madonna. But that's just silly.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know I should probably go see Madonna. I
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: don't think she's gonna be around tour much longer. No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean that to sound like there's anything ominous happening,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: But you know, how long can people tour for? That's
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: all I'm saying. All Right, all right, get a text
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: here from the five oh waight, Hey Jake. This is
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Tracy from the five O eight, And it's not my
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: aunt Tracy because she spells her name differently. She says,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I'm admittedly playing ketchup on episodes, and I'm about to
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: listen to the Beiber episode, not my music, but I'm
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: so glad that you did it. I feel like his
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: story is exactly the type of story that the podcast
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: is about, no matter what his style of music is.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I'm interested to hear you take on it. I've often
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: wondered how I would have handled that much money and
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: freedom at that age. I'm pretty sure I'd have engaged
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: in some bad behavior too, so I've always given him
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: a little slack love the pod. Thanks for doing what
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: you do, Tracy. Thanks Tracy, and yeah, you know, from
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the beginning, this podcast has not been about a particular
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: style of music. I definitely follow my interests, and I
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: am more inclined to the classic rock, punk, rock hip
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: hop universe than I am the pop universe. But still,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to me, it's all about the humanity. It's all about
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the human stories. So I'll go in any direction I can,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: and I'm happy to hear that you are here for
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Tracy. All right, we'll do one more text
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: here from the nine two eight Greetings Jake, love all
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: the Double Elvis offerings. Just listen to the after party
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: episode with Chris Shifflett, and I automatically thought of a
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: couple of guitar players he should try to get Tim
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Henson and Scotty Lapage, both of Polifia. If you've not
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: heard these guys, you should thank you for your hard
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: work and keep the episodes coming, please, you got it?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Nine two eight. I've never heard of Tim Henson and
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Scotty la Page, but I will pass this message along
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: to the folks at Double Elvis, to the producers and
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to Chris. And of course this is in reference to
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: the Chris Shiflett from the Foo Fighters podcast that we
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: produce for Double Elvis called Shred with Shifty. This is
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: If you guys don't know about this, you probably do
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: because I interviewed Chris in the Last after Party, But
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: if you don't, it is a podcast Chris has with
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: a video component where Chris sits down with some amazing
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: guitar players and they go through their legendary riffs as
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: sort of a tutorial of sorts. And this was some
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: pretty big, heavy hitters that you're going to want to
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: You're gonna want to learn your risks from. So, sirch
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Shred was shifty. Where you get your podcasts? All right? Uh,
• 21:23
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• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Leave me a voicemail, semi a text, but you can
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: also get in touch via Instagram, Facebook and even sometimes Twitter.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I will respond, but mainly Instagram, Facebook and TikTok. And
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: let's do a couple DM responses here. Let me pull
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: up the old Instagram machine, make sure I got the
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: right stuff. Here we go, So this one from who
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: is this from? Ashley? Lauren writes, First of all, I'll
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  Speaker 1: say picture of the bon Scott statue, which is a
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: pretty great statue. It says bon Scott's statue in Fremantle
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  Speaker 1: where he grew up. My friend's dad told me the
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  Speaker 1: other day he was a professional footballer in Frio in
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  Speaker 1: the seventies and bon Scott always stole the girls. He
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: picked up that he couldn't compete, but he couldn't hate
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: him because he was too good of a guy. That's
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: a pretty cool message, Thank you, Ashley Lauren. What else
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  Speaker 1: we got? I apologize if I screw up the pronunciation
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  Speaker 1: of your name here, but I got Janette vecki Arelli.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's right. I think that's right.
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  Speaker 1: It says very simply put, I love your podcast so much.
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  Speaker 1: I come home from hikes and I constantly quote did
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  Speaker 1: you know? To my husband? Love that? Thanks Janette. That
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  Speaker 1: makes me happy, all right? This one is from the
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  Speaker 1: Carpet beat Nicks on Instagram. Hate Jake. I'd love it
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: if shift he could interview David Rawlings how he shreds
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  Speaker 1: on an acoustic as wild. But I'd also be curious
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: how he plays with Gillian Welsh's voice or Gillian Welsch.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I never know which one it is. Also, what are
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  Speaker 1: the numbers you give on your callers and emailers? The
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: numbers the numbers you give on your callers and emailers? Well,
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  Speaker 1: there's six, one, seven, nine, oh, six six six three eight,
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  Speaker 1: that's how you call it. As for David Rawlings, that's
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  Speaker 1: an incredible suggestion for shred was shifty. I saw David
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Rawlings and Gillian Slash Gillian Welch back and I don't know,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: maybe it was like four five in Boston, and my goodness,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: were they good and he was especially good. The guy's
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: a monster guitar player, all right, at disgrace lampod that's
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  Speaker 1: how you get in touching me on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook
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  Speaker 1: and TikTok six one seven nine six six six three eight,
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  Speaker 1: leave a voicemail on a text. I'm gonna take a
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  Speaker 1: quick break. I'll be back in a second with some recommendations.
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  Speaker 1: All right, the recommendations part. This is the recommendation's part,
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  Speaker 1: the part where we recommend the things that need recommending,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: The recommendations part. Guys, all right, what I'm watching? Yes,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the movie recommendations part is now in the Badlands Bonus
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Rap Party episode. However, it is here in the after
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Party where we still dig into music related video content,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: including documentaries and biopicks. In on that I was, you know,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I was home alone over the weekend whilst with my kids,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: but my wife was away, so you know, my wife's
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: not watching TV with me. I'm kind of just like cruising.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just surfing. I'm just watching ten minutes
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: of this, twenty minutes of that, half an hour, that
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: hour of that stand up way too late. Caught a
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: little bit of coal miner's daughter over the weekend that
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: was just on. I can't remember what network it was on.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: For those of you who don't know this movie, I
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: feel like there are so many music biopics that get
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: mentioned and this one seldomly is mentioned as one of
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: the best, and I think it might be the best
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: music biopick out there. It's I didn't watch the whole
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: thing again, so I don't know. I can't confidently say that,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: but it's the story of Loretta Lynn. Sissy Spasic plays
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Loretta Lynn. Levon Helm from the band plays their dad.
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  Speaker 1: It's just what I love about this movie is that
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: it is a hardcore reality check against the other biopicks
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: out there. Without giving anything away, it's raw, it's real,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: there's a grit to it. I believe it's early eighties.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: It feels seventies though, and it's just it's not yet
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the sort of Hollywood music biopick industry machine had not
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: yet created this mold for these types of movies, So
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: this one kind of exists, existed on its own for
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: a while and could afford to be grittier and raw
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: and more raw and real. And it's just tremendous and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: it's a great Lorettelin's story in and of itself is fantastic,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: and I do a great job putting it on the screen.
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  Speaker 1: So I highly recommend cole Miners daughter. If you haven't
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: seen it, highly recommend watching it again. If you have
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: seen it, just you know, caught my eye over the weekend,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: figured it worth mentioning what I'm listening to. I don't
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: know why, Maybe because the weather's getting warmer, maybe because
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I've been working out more and I need this for
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the workouts. But I've been listening to a ton of
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Hohosker Doo, just all of it, really, the entire catalog,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: even the sad stuff. Something about it I find to
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: be incredibly motivating. But still, there's so many great Huskar
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Dow records. Zen Arcade is one of not just my
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: favorite Husker Doo albums, but one of my favorite double
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: albums of all time. People will argue that there's filler
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: on it, but I think even the so called filler
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: is fantastic on this album. The grant Heart songs on
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: this record are fucking great. Turn on the News, oh
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: my God, but also Flip your wig, New Day Rising.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Just it's this constant. It's banger after banger after banger,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: and the production is so fucking shitty and eighties and
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: crappy eighties punk. I love it. I love it so
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: much and I've rediscovered it. And if there are people
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: out there are who are into this type of music
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: but have not gotten into Whoskardo for whatever reason, because
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: because they weren't Black Flag, because because they weren't the
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: sex Pistols, they weren't the Pixies. Who fucking cares? They
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: are their own thing, and just they are tremendous. So
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: you know, if you got questions on where to start
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: with Whoskardo, hit me up, ask me. I will point
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: you in the right direction. Shit, if I get enough
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: incoming on this, I'll even make my own mix, my
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: entry level correspondence course, hohoskerdo mix for you folks out there.
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  Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: at disgrace lampod. I've also been listening to a ton
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: of Fiddler, so much so that I had about a
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: week ago, I had to forcibly stop myself from listening
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  Speaker 1: to this band because their songs were so ingrained into
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  Speaker 1: my my like wormholing into my brain. It's all I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: could think about. Were these these fucking silly songs about
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: all about the same thing, getting completely fucked up in
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the most juvenile, sort of early twenties, uh you know,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: post teenage kind of way. This band, they're they're not
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: a new band by any means. They've been around for
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: a while, but and I've known about them for a
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: while and I and I've listened to them here and
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: there for a while. But recently I've just really dug
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: into this, this band. I saw a live clip on Instagram,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: something popped up in my stories and it really took me,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: captured me. So I just, you know, went into the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: wormhole and I've yet to come out. I can't they
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: have this they have this Spotify, you know, Spotify does
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: this sort of like this is the band? You know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, or what are thirty songs on
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: that band that they're supposed to be a comprehensive look
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: at the group. There's not There's not one bad fucking
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: song on the Spotify. This is Fiddler playlist. I mean it,
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  Speaker 1: there's not one bad song. There's not one skip on it.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: It's that good. But warning, if you're looking for variety,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: this ain't your band. They do the ac DC thing,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: it's like, or the Ramones thing. It's like, you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: we do one thing and we do it really fucking well.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: And that thing with regards to Fiddler is you know,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: fast in your face, raw southern California slash modern punk,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and every single song is about getting fucked up in
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: your life, falling apart. So if you're into that kind
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: of thing, I highly recommend Fiddler. All right, my vintage
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: video watching over the weekend. Now, this is a direct
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: correlation to another topic we have going on here about
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the weirdest collaborations. And I don't know if the find
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: folks at Meta and Instagram have figured out a way
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: to make the Instagram machines algorithm just sort of like
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: ump out of the phone through the air into my ears,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: wrap itself around my brain, pull my interest out back
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: through my ears and into the phone, and maybe they're
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: listening to their course. They're listening. I don't know what
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: it was. But as we're sort of having this talk
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: about weird collaborations, this video pops up with Neil Young
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: and Devo playing together. One of those things where how
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: the fuck did I not know about this? This is
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: why I love the Internet more than this is the
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: main reason I love the Internet. There are these things
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: that have happened in music history. I've read so much
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: music history. It's shocking to me that when I come
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: across things like this that are right in my wheelhouse
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: that I did not know existed. I did not know
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Neil Young and Devo played together, and it's incredible, as
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: you would expect, it's great. So if you know about
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: this already, congratulations and forgive me for boring you. But
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: if you do not know about this, you have to
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: search this out. I'm going to try to figure out
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: a way to post to someone Instagram. Highly recommend the
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Neil Young Devo collaboration. Tremendous stuff. Again, I'm down for
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: this weird collaboration topic. You want to keep it going.
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  Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight
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• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and I'll be back in a flash. All right, let's recap,
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