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Desperate search for missing 25-year-old Kierra Coles, postal worker three months pregnant · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Kiara Coles works as a mail
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  Speaker 1: carrier out of this postal office in the South Shore neighborhood,
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  Speaker 1: where her coworkers say they cannot comment about the disappearance,
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  Speaker 1: but she hasn't been seen since calling off work lass
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. The year old was reported missing by her
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  Speaker 1: family soon after, saying it is unlike her to be
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  Speaker 1: out of touch. A private surveillance system near her home
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  Speaker 1: at eighty one and Vernon captured images of Coals leaving
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  Speaker 1: that morning, dressed in her postal uniform, but heading across
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  Speaker 1: the street from where a car was parked. According to relatives,
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  Speaker 1: Coals is pregnant and loves her postal job. Her person
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  Speaker 1: cell phone were said to be inside her car and
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  Speaker 1: it was locked, but there's been no sign of her.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like it. The purse and the cellphone inside
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  Speaker 1: the car. Who goes anywhere without their earth or their
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  Speaker 1: cell phone. I will go plenty of places without my
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  Speaker 1: up a pocketbook. I hardly ever carry one of those.
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  Speaker 1: But your cell phone or your I D I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's he grace. This is crime stories. This case is urgent.
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  Speaker 1: A gorgeous, young, pregnant postal worker is missing. Police searching
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  Speaker 1: for her. Kira Coles is twenty six years old. Last
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  Speaker 1: scene October two, October two and upscaled Chadham neighborhood. According
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  Speaker 1: to her family, three months pregnant with her first child.
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  Speaker 1: Her family is the one that finds her car parked
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  Speaker 1: on her block, on her block so close to home,
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  Speaker 1: her pocketbook and her cellphone still inside. The family desperate
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  Speaker 1: for answers, joining me. Dr Bethany Marshall, renowned in the
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  Speaker 1: l A psychoanalyst. Vincent Hill, private investigator who's about to
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  Speaker 1: Up a Titan, and it starts on Wednesday. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: be listening to that. Vincent Hill, cop turned p I.
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  Speaker 1: Also the author of two books, Wow, when do you
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  Speaker 1: have time to do your p I work? Vincent author
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  Speaker 1: of Playbook to a Murder and Incomplete Pass on Amazon,
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  Speaker 1: but joining me right now. Special guest reporter and author
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  Speaker 1: of Beautiful Life The c S I behind the Casey
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  Speaker 1: Anthony trial. Our friend and colleague, investigative reporter Robin will Lynsky. Robin,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta find out about this gorgeous young mom to
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  Speaker 1: be Kiara Coles. It's not adding up. She's that close
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  Speaker 1: to home and then just disappears. I hope no defense
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  Speaker 1: attorney's gonna jump up and say, oh, she's just gone
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  Speaker 1: with her boyfriend. She's not. I'm extremely worried about her.
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  Speaker 1: And here's why. When you talk to people who know her,
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  Speaker 1: who are in the postal service, this is someone who
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  Speaker 1: shows up for work every day on time. Nancy, who's meticulous,
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  Speaker 1: who has a car, who has an apartment, who she
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  Speaker 1: just moved into a new apartment. I mean, when you
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  Speaker 1: look at her and see how beautiful she is five
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  Speaker 1: ft four hundred and twenty five pounds, she's extremely fick.
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  Speaker 1: This is someone who takes care of herself. She's not
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  Speaker 1: milling around without a job, willie Nilly. This is someone
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  Speaker 1: who is meticulously dressed in a uniform, going to work
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  Speaker 1: every day, being responsible. This is very odd that she
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  Speaker 1: suddenly vanishes without a treat and you know, to Dr
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  Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, Dr Bethany, I'm just sick about her family because, um,
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  Speaker 1: I remember how ecstatic my my parents were when they
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  Speaker 1: found out I was pregnant for the first and only
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  Speaker 1: time with twins, and it was my dad broke down crying.
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  Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. It It was so happy. I remember
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  Speaker 1: the moment I told him. I had planned this big
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  Speaker 1: telling him and I flew in from New York to Atlanta,
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  Speaker 1: got in the car, drove to make and I had
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  Speaker 1: it all planned out in my head. He came out
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  Speaker 1: like he always did, came out of the house, out
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  Speaker 1: in the driveway, and he was around, you know, getting
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  Speaker 1: close to eighty at that point, I hugged him and
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  Speaker 1: I just said, Daddy, I've gonna have twins. Just like that.
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  Speaker 1: It just came out and he started crying. I will
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  Speaker 1: never forget it as long. It's one of those moments
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  Speaker 1: in your life that you don't forget ever. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: just thinking about this twenty six year old so excited,
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  Speaker 1: just beyond over the moon about having her first baby.
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  Speaker 1: The family thrilled, and instead of throwing a baby shower
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  Speaker 1: and planning the nursery and looking at Sonograham's and going
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  Speaker 1: to doctors appointment, they're out plastering neighborhoods with with posters
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  Speaker 1: of her Bethany. I mean, you're right, Nancy, when a
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  Speaker 1: young woman is pregnant, it's the time of such great
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  Speaker 1: hopes and dreams. But unfortunately, Nancy, as you know, not
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  Speaker 1: all pregnancies are wanted, not all families are thrilled like yours.
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  Speaker 1: Not all children are beloved, unfortunately. And I just feel
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  Speaker 1: like there's such a big story hole here that maybe
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  Speaker 1: Robin can help us with. I don't know where's the boyfriend.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know much about the family. Were they thrilled
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  Speaker 1: about this the impending birth of this child. Was there
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  Speaker 1: a boyfriend or a husband who was supporting this pregnancy.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I smell a rat here that. Um,
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  Speaker 1: we're just seeing the tip of an iceberg here with
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  Speaker 1: all of these missing person's photos flyers being plastered all
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  Speaker 1: over the neighborhood. UM, I feel like there's something very
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  Speaker 1: unhappy going on. I just cannot put my finger on it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I know this. Uh, she goes missing October to October
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  Speaker 1: two year old Kierra Coles. Now some reports are saying
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  Speaker 1: she's last saying October two. And now all of her
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  Speaker 1: fellow postal workers have joined in the search effort. Just
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  Speaker 1: yesterday they were out ringing doorbells, passing out flyers, just
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  Speaker 1: hoping someone would have recognized Kierra Coals, her close friends,
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  Speaker 1: all of her family, co workers. They all say they're
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  Speaker 1: so beside themselves because she's always in close contact with
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  Speaker 1: her friends and family on let's just say, various social
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  Speaker 1: media like Snapchat. She's always there. And not only that,
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  Speaker 1: to find out, her car is right there near her home,
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  Speaker 1: and in the car is her pocketbook, her purse, and
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  Speaker 1: her cell phone. Now I've learned that just recently, surveillance
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  Speaker 1: video has emerged and it's of her addressed in her
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  Speaker 1: postal outfit, her uniform, walking past her car and then
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  Speaker 1: out of the frame, out of the frame. To Robert Willnsky,
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  Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, what more do we know?
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  Speaker 1: Is it true she called in sick that day or no? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's very unusual. So that, like you're saying, the
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  Speaker 1: video captures her addressed in the postal uniform, she's slowly
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  Speaker 1: walking past her car, and there's this phone call that
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  Speaker 1: she calls in six So here, here's here's my take
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  Speaker 1: on it. My take on it is is that somebody
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  Speaker 1: called her and diverted her to somewhere else. Hey, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I'm gonna come and pick you up and let's
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  Speaker 1: have a conversation about this or that. Why else if
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  Speaker 1: your call in sick, right, you're in bed, you're sniffling,
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  Speaker 1: you have tissues, you're under the cover as you're watching TV.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I'm you're calling to work, I'm sick, and you
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  Speaker 1: spend the rest of the day in bet Why is
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  Speaker 1: she calling in sick dressed in her uniform. I believe
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  Speaker 1: that her intention was to go to work. She got dressed,
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  Speaker 1: she left the house, she had her things with her,
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  Speaker 1: possibly put them in the car they were in there
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  Speaker 1: from the night before, and then someone calls her and
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  Speaker 1: diverts her to a different location or picks her up
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  Speaker 1: on the street, or did someone else call in and
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  Speaker 1: leave the message that she was sick because she was
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  Speaker 1: out and she had on her postal uniform. If that
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  Speaker 1: video was from that day, she wasn't six. She was up,
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  Speaker 1: dressed and ready to go to work. I want you
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  Speaker 1: to take a listen. Take a listen to our friend
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  Speaker 1: Nancy lou over a w g N one neighbor spotted
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  Speaker 1: coals on his security footage after hearing she went missing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she was that she was undecided what she wanted to
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  Speaker 1: do and stuff like that, and a mom and them
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  Speaker 1: said that she called off that morning saying she ain't
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  Speaker 1: coming in, you know, but she was dressed in a uniform,
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  Speaker 1: a post a uniform that she's really go to work,
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  Speaker 1: you know that. I guess that's the less close she
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  Speaker 1: had on Coles is five four and a hundred and
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  Speaker 1: twenty five pounds. She has a heart tattoo on her
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  Speaker 1: right hand and another on her back that reads Lucky Libra.
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  Speaker 1: According to relatives calls is three months pregnant. And has
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  Speaker 1: had the same boyfriend for several years. We read about it,
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  Speaker 1: I'll see there. Kimberly last saw her sister once she
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  Speaker 1: picked her up from work last Monday. Her mother called
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  Speaker 1: Thursday and asked if she had talked to her are
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  Speaker 1: immediately was a snapchat because that's what she do, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she snapped everywhere whatever she do or whatever she eating
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  Speaker 1: house a day and everything. So I really want to snapchat.
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  Speaker 1: So there was no story, so they kind of puzzled me.
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  Speaker 1: She contacted her boyfriend, also the father of her unborn child.
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  Speaker 1: Kia was three months pregnant. They all went to Kara's
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  Speaker 1: apartment at eighty one in Vernon to check on her.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't want to stand so who will do something?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know? I could pretty old christ Chris friend,
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  Speaker 1: the search has become desperate for three months pregnant mom,
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  Speaker 1: a gorgeous young twenty six year old, a postal worker
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  Speaker 1: who had held out a job for years, very very reliable.
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  Speaker 1: You were just hearing our friend w g N TV
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  Speaker 1: reporter Marcella Raymond, where is Kia? The time is ticking
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  Speaker 1: by and we all know Vincent Price cop turned p
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  Speaker 1: I that every hour that passes bodes yeah, and it's
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  Speaker 1: it's troubling. And the thing that gets me the most
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  Speaker 1: is that surveillance footage that tells me she was going
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  Speaker 1: to see someone. Someone was around that corner out of
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  Speaker 1: the view of that camera. Her cell phone or purse
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  Speaker 1: were in the car, and that tells me someone else
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  Speaker 1: made that call to her job to say she's sick,
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  Speaker 1: because again, why would she get dressed just to call
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  Speaker 1: in sick. So I would be looking at those phone
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  Speaker 1: records of who called her work to say she's not
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  Speaker 1: coming in, and I would start my investigation right there.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you, Robert Willinsky. Why don't we even
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  Speaker 1: believe it was her calling in? You know, maybe it wasn't,
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  Speaker 1: but her phone will show that. Does she have a
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  Speaker 1: landline number in her apartment, Maybe she called from a landline,
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  Speaker 1: Maybe she called from the cell phone earlier. But there's
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  Speaker 1: no video of her with the with the phone at
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  Speaker 1: the car, so either she either returned, she called, maybe
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  Speaker 1: she called on someone else's phone. Maybe it wasn't even her,
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  Speaker 1: like you were saying, Nancy, but they seem to believe
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  Speaker 1: the postal service that it was her calling it sick.
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  Speaker 1: I think here, you know, as as the officer was
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  Speaker 1: former officer was saying that you need to take a
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  Speaker 1: very hard look at this girl's inner circle. Who was
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  Speaker 1: she hanging out with? Uh? You know who? What's what's?
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  Speaker 1: What is up with this boyfriends? What about the people
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  Speaker 1: she worked with? Men and women? Who is she hanging
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  Speaker 1: out with? I would like to hear about her full
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  Speaker 1: inner circle and who she's been in touch with. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: no one has been named a suspect. Co workers, relatives, family,
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  Speaker 1: loved ones. Everyone joining in the search for this pregnant mom.
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  Speaker 1: The tip line three one two seven four seven eight
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  Speaker 1: to seven four. Go to crime online dot com and
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  Speaker 1: look at her photo. Ki Era Coals three one two
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  Speaker 1: seven four seven eight to seven four. We are taking
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  Speaker 1: your calls at nine zero nine four nine Crime nine
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  Speaker 1: zero nine four nine two seven four six three. The
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  Speaker 1: search going on for a missing pregnant mom. A postal
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  Speaker 1: worker and she was caught on surveillance video wearing her
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  Speaker 1: post to a uniform, walking by her car and she
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  Speaker 1: walked out of the vision of the shot of the
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  Speaker 1: surveillance video. Listen to this. The video is shot from
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  Speaker 1: the vantage point of a neighbor's home. It shows Kara
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  Speaker 1: walking west, walking past the door to her apartment before
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  Speaker 1: she turns around, passing it again and crossing the street.
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  Speaker 1: Before disappearing out of frame. The video was captured early
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. The same day, the post office says Kiarra
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  Speaker 1: didn't show for work after her mother says she called
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  Speaker 1: in sick, but both her mother and sisters say they
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  Speaker 1: actually haven't heard from Kia since last Tuesday. In the
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  Speaker 1: days since Kira was recorded missing, family and friends have
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  Speaker 1: plastered this chat of neighborhood near eighty two in coals
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  Speaker 1: with flyers asking for information. Yesterday, her family found Kira's
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  Speaker 1: person's cell phone inside her car, but say Kira's wallet
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  Speaker 1: and keys were missing. Trying desperately to not speak in
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  Speaker 1: the past tense, a worried Karen Phillips experience is something
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  Speaker 1: no mother should. I have no feeling. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: just hard out, you know. I don't want to thank
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  Speaker 1: the worst. I'm trying to stay positive, but it's just empty,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I need for her to come on. That
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  Speaker 1: home is here at the corner of eighty one in Vernon,
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  Speaker 1: where Cia Coles was last spotted on a neighbors surveillance
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  Speaker 1: video last Wednesday morning. Did she go right there? She
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  Speaker 1: walked down there and she didn't go into a place
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  Speaker 1: which is right there, So she walked down there and
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  Speaker 1: you can see it in a post office uniform. Did
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  Speaker 1: she go right there and then she crossed the street.
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  Speaker 1: That's the right there. You can see all that post officers.
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  Speaker 1: Coles did not report for work that day and her
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  Speaker 1: car remains parked where she left it. Family did not
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  Speaker 1: hear from her and filed the missing person's report last
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  Speaker 1: Thursday evening. We talk all of this, Hammy, if we
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  Speaker 1: miss one day, it's just one day, never four fast, six, seven, eight,
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  Speaker 1: nine days never. That is a big problem. They wait
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  Speaker 1: until Thursday to report her missing. You're hearing from our
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  Speaker 1: friends at Fox thirty two TV to Cary Turner in
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  Speaker 1: ABC seven's Rav Bank Wall reporting on Kira Cole's missing
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  Speaker 1: Several thoughts on what we just heard to Dr Bethany Marshall,
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  Speaker 1: renowned l A psycho analysts. You know, did you just
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  Speaker 1: hear the mother is the one who apparently called in,
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  Speaker 1: I mean said that she called into work, not the
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  Speaker 1: post office. The mother is the one. She's that said
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  Speaker 1: she called in to work. What about that? Well, it
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  Speaker 1: tells me that Kira thought she was going to work
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  Speaker 1: that day. I mean, when you watch the video, she's
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  Speaker 1: dressed up in her postal uniform. Her pocketbook is in
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  Speaker 1: the car and her cell phone, so she's prepared to
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  Speaker 1: go to work. She walks out of frame. She has
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  Speaker 1: her car keys, so somebody has beckoned her once she
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  Speaker 1: gets ready for the day. But if she has a boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: she's pregnant, this boyfriend seemingly would be in touch with
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  Speaker 1: her and would know that she hasn't gone to work,
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  Speaker 1: and would know the daily ins and outs of her life.
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  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't the boyfriend call the family? Why wouldn't the
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  Speaker 1: boyfriend work check that out? That's that's an excellent point.
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  Speaker 1: Robert Walinsky, climb online dot com investigative reporter, author of
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  Speaker 1: Beautiful Life. What about this? But the but the post
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  Speaker 1: office confirmed that she's that she's out, that she's out
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  Speaker 1: sick for the day. Regardless of who called, she was
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  Speaker 1: outsick for the day. But that to me is very
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  Speaker 1: troubling because you don't get up, Nancy. You know this
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  Speaker 1: when you have to go and be on TV and
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  Speaker 1: and and on the radio and go to work and
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  Speaker 1: you're in the outfit. If you're legitimately sick, you're not
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  Speaker 1: dressed in your postal uniform. You're just not. So somebody
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  Speaker 1: got to her and said, oh, you know, come over here,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick you up, or let's have a discussion.
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  Speaker 1: And then suddenly she's outsick for the day and her
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  Speaker 1: whereabouts are unknown. Why is her cell phone in the car?
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  Speaker 1: That makes no sense? Something is is extremely suspicious. Vincent
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  Speaker 1: Hill has lost so much time. She goes missing on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: it's not reported until Thursday. Yeah, Nancy, anytime you lose
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  Speaker 1: forty eight hours, the chances of finding someone alive decreases tremendously.
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  Speaker 1: So time is of the essence here and finding Kira.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at ABC seven. Coles
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  Speaker 1: has a boyfriend and his twelve weeks pregnant. Her father
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  Speaker 1: came down today from his home and Racine, Wisconsin to
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  Speaker 1: help in the search. How was her reaction to being pregnant?
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  Speaker 1: Oh the joy I missed a smile on her face.
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  Speaker 1: If anybody know anything, please call in let us know.
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  Speaker 1: Miss Coles has two tattoos, including a heart on her
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  Speaker 1: right hand. Maybe something did happen when she was just
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  Speaker 1: overcome with and lie, did you know when you pregnant
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  Speaker 1: you got emotions? So you know, I wanted to just
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  Speaker 1: say she just went somewhere and they wanted to tell nobody,
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• 19:50
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  Speaker 1: scandal has turned her life upside down. We had to
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: move from that house. Um. People at my school started
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: to catch on that I was the girl. It made
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: me regret actually coming forward and exposing him, um, because
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: it just did so much damage the life that I
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: had before. Weiner's estranged wife, Fuma Aberdeen, did not attend
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the sentencing. She was a trusted aid to Hillary Clinton,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and the investigation into the scandal through the Clinton campaign
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: into a tailspin. It may have helped Donald Trump in
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: the election. We never thought we were going to say
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: thank you to Anthony Weiner. Anthony, what do you think
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: about your sentencing? Weiner returned to his Manhattan apartment after
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the sentencing. He remains free until November six. If you
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: could talk to Anthony Weiner, what would you say to him?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I guess I forgive here. Okay, this is not about
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. This is not about Donald Trump. This is
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: not about the presidential election. This is about a guy
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: who was sexting and coercing a girl, a minor girl.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Walking free. Yep, you heard me right. Former New York
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Representative Anthony Weiner set to walk free on prison. I
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, this is crime stories. Thank you for being
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: with us. Alexis terres Check, please tell me I'm wrong.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Please tell me that just because he's a New York
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: representative and married, was married to the chief aide to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton with one foot in the Oval office, He's
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: not walking free. Sorry to disappoint you, but he is
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: walking free. He has been in federal prison. He had
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: a twenty one month sentence. He was supposed to be
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: locked up behind bars until August of nineteen, but he
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: has been a model prisoner behind bars, and therefore he
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: has been given time out for good behavior, and he
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: is going to get out in May, three months early
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: because of his good behavior. You know, can we just
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: talk about all of Anthony Wiener's antics? This guy could
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: not help himself. It wasn't just one sexting moment episode
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: where its a very troubled little girl. Um. He kept
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: telling her she made him h a r D, asking
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: her to dress up in school girl outfits, trying to
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: force her into rape fantasies with a little girl, a
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: little girl, high school girl. But it didn't all start
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: with her. This month's long relationship with a teen girl.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: It's just the tip of the iceberg, alexis what all
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: has Anthony Weener a New York representative again with one
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: toe in the Oval office? How did it all start?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Am I wrong? But did it start when he accidentally
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: sexed a whole group of people a picture of his um.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: There's just no nice way to say it penis, and
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: it's when he was an elected official, he was a congressman.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Let me just hold on, let me just savor that moment. Okay,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I'm sure all the ladies on this panel are cringing.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Dr Bethany Marshal, I'm sure you, of all people l
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: A psychoanalysts have heard of a Freudian slip when you
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: accidentally say something you didn't mean to say, and it
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: has huge implications. He accidentally sent a picture of his
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: pp out to like a turn of people. Oops. Well, actually,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: to me, this speaks to his impulsivity. I've been um
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: really reading more about him and looking at his crimes
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: and um all the sex thing that went on between
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: him and uh minor women as well as women who
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: are over the age of eighteen, the age of consent,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and it appears to me that he does have an
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: impulse control disorder. He just cannot stop himself. And he
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: has what we call a process addiction, which is that
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: he is so involved in the process of maintaining sexual arousal,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: maintaining an erection, or being hard as he put it
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: to this fifteen year old, that he lives in that state,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: which is very masturbatory all he can think about is himself,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and he uses his victims in a very ruthless way
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: without regard for what's going on in their minds. And
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I imagine that he relates to people in this manner.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: In every area of his life, he in some ways
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: bathes himself in self excitement at other people's expense. I
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: remember one phrase he said to the girl, I would
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: bust that tight blank so hard and so often you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: would leak and limp for a week. Astley Willcott, founder
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: of child Crime watch dot com, thoughts, Yeah, with a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: daughter in my life makes me want to absolutely um
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: just strangle the man. Having said that, he's a predator,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: so no matter how long he's in jail or isn't
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: in jail, he will always be a predator, and that's
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: why we all have to be aware of people like him.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: He's a predator. But let me say this about federal
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: prison and that is there's no such thing, as you
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: well know, as parole. What there is is the opportunity
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: for a prisoner to get out early based on good
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: behavior up to I think it's fifty six days is
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: the time frame. So one of the questions I would
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: have in this specific case is, have men who have
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: been convicted of similar charges been allowed to get out
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: early for early behavior? It maybe it's the norm in
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: these cases. I'm not saying it's okay. I'm not saying
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: we want him back on the street as a perpetrator.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: But at least if it's consistent with how all other
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: of the prisoners are treated, that's a little bit different
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: than if it's an exception for him. I'm not really
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: buying into that. Alexis to as Chuck the timeline. The
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: timeline tell me what led up to him ending up
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: in a federal pen. So for this case, he was
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: sexy with, Oh no, you don't have to limit it
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: to this case. So starting when he was an elected official,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: when he was a congressman, he sent a picture out
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: to his entire Twitter followers. That's two thousand eleven, a
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: sex picture posted to his entire Twitter page. He then
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: lied about it, He said he didn't do it. Do
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: you remember watching him screaming at CNN reporter Dana Bash
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: saying that that she was being irrational because she was
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: asking him these questions. He was an elected official. People
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: were trying to get an answer about this, and he
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: was screaming at the reporter when he was one guilty
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and he had done it. He said his account was hacked.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: He didn't know what was going on, right, Okay, that
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: was And then in June two thousand eleven, he admits
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to doing it. And then whoa what? In May of
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the year and a half later, he's campaigning for mayor
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: of New York City and he's actually doing well in
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the polls. Then what happens? Then he gets caught sexting
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: with a woman named Sydney Leathers. She comes forward and
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: says they have been I actually spoke with her. I
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: think I did the first interview with her, and she
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: told me how she had was surprised that it was him.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: She didn't know it was him in the beginning and
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: they were just having dirty conversations. Then she realized who
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: it was, including explicit photos. This is why his wife,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Huma Aberdeen, whom let me just say it's a very
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: forgiving person, is running around carrying Hillary Clinton's pocketbook. Okay,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: she's right there with Clinton during all the lead up
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: to the presidential election. Okay, this is her husband. He's
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: at home and some of the photos have his little boy,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: his baby in the bed with him. His sexting go ahead,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: so then he moves on. He gets embarrassed on the
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: mayor during the mayoral election. Whoma even gives a speech
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: on his behalf. She has never publicly other than maybe
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: a very flattering Vogue interview, which was all done very
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: much in cooperation with her. She actually gave a speech
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: supporting her husband during his campaign. Comes out and says,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: we are working on this. It's over. It wasn't over,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: and he loses the election. Election night, Sydney Leather shows
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: up at his election party, the woman that he's been
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: sexting with, to try to see him. He has to
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: sneak out of the election party, runs through at McDonald's
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and runs into a car waiting for him. Huma doesn't
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: go with him, she doesn't vote with him. You don't
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: see her anywhere. Completely humiliated, and yes, she is still
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: working for Hillary Clinton. So then he tries to wait.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Now September two thirteen, he loses the mayoral primary to
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: de Blasio. All right, two thousand and sixteen, more explicit
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: photos go public, this one has his child in it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Then the Daily Mail does a feature long story short
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: the FBI, the NYPD open an investigation springing from the
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Daily Mail story. Then Aberdeen files for divorce. That's two
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: thousand seventeen, and here we are right. I mean, did
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I miss something that he played guilty? He played guilty
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: uh in an federal obscenity charge in teen sexting, and
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: he has to register as a sex offender. And now
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: he's gonna walk out early. I mean, Vincent Hill, if
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: this guy were not a New York representative, or he
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: was a minority, or he was dirt poor, I guarantee
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: you he would not be getting out early, not at all.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Nancy more importantly, actually used the word predator. I'm gonna
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: take it one step further. He's a frequent pedophile. He
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: knew this girl was fifteen. He knew exactly what he
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: was doing. He's a pedophile, and pedophiles need to be
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: locked up. He didn't accidentally send this picture that I mean,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: that's just like saying I accidentally took the picture with
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: my phone. He knew exactly what he was doing of
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: my penis. I accidentally took a picture of my penis.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: That happened, Vincent, you're the only guy on the battle.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: How do you accidentally take a picture of your penis.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Somebody tell me, I will say this. I've had people
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: women ask me for those types of pictures, and I
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think I would tell people that if I
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: were you. It's true because people ask for those and
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no way, because that is my brand and
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I don't want to end up behind bars in a
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: few years. I'm very proud of you, Vincent, for turning
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: down that accidental penis photo. But I gotta ask. I'm
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: dying to get to you, but I've got to just
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: bring up one last thing to Dr Bethany. Does the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: name Carlos Danger ring a bell? That was his screen name.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: He chose the name Carlos Danger. I mean that should
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: be a felowy in itself ouch in terms of him
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: getting out to he is so compulsive. This is what
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I'm worried about. I don't think he'll be able to stop.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I do treat um sex addicts in my practice, and
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: there is a certain subgroup that is so compulsive UM.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: What I often say is that they want to keep
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: themselves in a sensory bath. Whether they have this constant erection.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: They're constantly looking at pornography, They're constantly pushing the envelope,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: and they don't know how to live any other way.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: So I don't know what all this good behavior is
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: behind bars because it doesn't stack up to how I
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: know these perpetrators operate in the world. I don't even
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: know what you're talking about, a sensory bath. But Ashley Wilcott,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I know this. Somebody sends pictures like that and texts
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: like that to my daughter or son. You know what,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: they better watch out because I'm coming after them. Guns
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: a blazing me too, a dent Katie bar the doors.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: And the thing that really bothers me about this is
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the victim that you just played tape of regrets right,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: every things changed. Everybody at school knows it was her.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: And that's what I really hate is you need and
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: want and pray that your children, God forbid, they get
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: a picture like this, tell you so you can handle
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: it and make sure that person pays for it. And
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: and here this victim saying, Wow, the consequences are too
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: great for me. I wish that I hadn't done it
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: almost That's what makes me sad. We've got to encourage
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: kids to come forward because it's it should never happen.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends Inside edition with the
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Twin Girl. Do you think the disgraced former Congressman Anthony
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Weiner broke down and sobbed as he was sentenced to
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: twenty one months in federal prison. Weener fled guilty to
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: sexting with this fifteen year old high school girl. He
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: sent her obscene messages on social media, along with photos
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: showing him bare chested and even a photo holding his son,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Jordan's And in this Inside Edition exclusive, the victim isn't
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: pulling any punches. How would you describe his behavior? A.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I think he's a very, very sick person that needs held.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: You know, again, this is not about Clinton, This is
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: not about Trump. This is not about politics only to
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the extent that I firmly believe if he had not
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: been a New York State representative, he would still be
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: behind bars and would not have gotten preferential treatment. But
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the bombshell is former New York Rep. Anthony Weiner will
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: be released early from a federal prison. So to you,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Dr Bethany Marshall, what does that tell all the sex
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: victims out there? It tells them that their pain does
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: not matter. It tells them that men are at a
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: more elevated status than women, and that women are not
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: regarded in our society, and it discourages them from coming forward.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Another thing I don't understand is how someone that has
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: so much going for them. I mean, he was a
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: superstar uh in the Democratic Party. He had won several
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: terms in the U. S. House of Representative by huge margins.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: But then he got outed for messages via Twitter and
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: it seems like he could have done anything. I mean,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: he was married to a chief the chief aid to
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. He was planning to run from mayor of
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: New York City, I mean, Dr bethany how can you
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: risk all that? I mean, I don't even want to
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: speed to run a red light? Uh? And and somehow
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: about on my record to have to tell the twins
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: about well, the risk taking is part of the perversion.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: That's part of the thrill I think is getting away
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: with things behind other people's back. Also, Dancy, this is
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: what a personality disorder looks like. A personality disorder is
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: when a person has psychological traits that are maladaptive for
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: relating to other people, but these traits persist over time
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: despite negative can sequences. Negative consequences are coming to him
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: again and again, but there is lack of a learning curve,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: which is why I'm very concerned that he's being released early.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: And one final thing is he doesn't seem to really
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: care about the impact of his behaviors on the people
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: around him. He did that documentary, he put cameras in
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: his house, He sex to a fifteen year old. Can
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: you imagine if he was in public office, what kinds
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: of decisions he might make on all of our behalf?
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's frightening to think about. Is everybody sitting down,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Alexis Vincent? Actually Dr Bethany's sitting there. You better lay
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: down for this one. Is it true as a two
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: thousand eighteen report true that whom Aberdeen and Anthony Wayner
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: have withdrawn their divorce petition? Alexis, please tell me this
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: is not true. I believe it is true. Okay, So
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: let me understand this. She is going to stick with
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: her sexoholic husband, and she has for all these year.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: This is this is ten years now at this point,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: through multiple embarrassments, she is sticking with her. Now. I've
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: also heard they're trying to settle the divorce out of court.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Could that be a possibility. What does that mean, Ashley Wilcot.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: That could be that they're trying to settle out of court.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: But there's no reason you have to actually dismiss your
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: petition in order to do that and have a resolution.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I fear she's dismissed this, this lawsuit for divorce because
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: she's changed her mind. Maybe they're trying to keep the
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: details of their split secret by mediating it out of court.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: But I think she's right. You don't have to totally
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: withdraw your divorce petition in order to do that. Well,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: we'll just see what these two crazy kids decide to do.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: But what I know now is that if you're rich
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: and powerful, you get less time in jail. I don't
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: like it. Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off, goodbye friend,