Latest / Brian Thomas / Robert Bortins - BOOK - Woke and Weaponized
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- 0:00Speaker 1: And I am so excited about this conversation about the
- 0:02Speaker 1: head with Robert Borton's. He the author of Woke and Weaponize,
- 0:05Speaker 1: How Karl Marx won the battle for American education and
- 0:08Speaker 1: how we can win it back. By way of background
- 0:10Speaker 1: as the chief executive offer of something we're going to
- 0:12Speaker 1: find out a lot about right now, Classical Conversations Incorporated
- 0:17Speaker 1: bs an Industrial engineering from Clemson University back in six
- 0:21Speaker 1: he worked at UPS and Management. He's got and then
- 0:23Speaker 1: he returned to and I will underscore the words the
- 0:27Speaker 1: family business Classical Conversations Incorporated, and we're going to talk
- 0:31Speaker 1: about that right now, and how that was the inspiration
- 0:33Speaker 1: behind his book Woke and Weaponized and welcome to the program,
- 0:35Speaker 1: Robert Borton's. Is a real pleasure to have you on today, Brian.
- 0:39Speaker 2: I'm excited to be here this morning.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Right in my wheelhouse on this man. I am so
- 0:44Speaker 1: worried about the future of education in America and will
- 0:46Speaker 1: current education in America. I am convinced, and this sounds conspiratorial,
- 0:50Speaker 1: but maybe you can chime in on my conclusion that
- 0:53Speaker 1: there seems to be a concerted effort to dumb down
- 0:57Speaker 1: our children. No more logic and reasoning. There's no more
- 1:02Speaker 1: you know, socratic method going on in schools. They are
- 1:04Speaker 1: spoon fed their version of history, very left and woke
- 1:08Speaker 1: it is, and the children don't have an opportunity to
- 1:11Speaker 1: question it, and they're just sort of indoctrinated in this,
- 1:13Speaker 1: this mushy sense of agreement with no critical thinking skills
- 1:17Speaker 1: for them to maybe raise their hand up and question
- 1:19Speaker 1: what the teacher's saying to them. Am I wrong on this?
- 1:23Speaker 1: Is this an intentional dumbing down?
- 1:26Speaker 2: I wish it wasn't, but it is, and it does
- 1:29Speaker 2: sound conspiracy, conspiracy, and it was a conspiracy against the
- 1:32Speaker 2: American people. And that's what we're reveal in my book,
- 1:35Speaker 2: Woke and Weaponized. John Dewey, who a lot of people
- 1:39Speaker 2: celebrate in America, says change must come gradually. To force
- 1:42Speaker 2: it unduly would compromise its final success by favoring a
- 1:46Speaker 2: violent reaction. So what plans did he have for America
- 1:50Speaker 2: that would make a family have a violent reaction against them? Well,
- 1:53Speaker 2: the dumbing down of America. And so that's what our
- 1:56Speaker 2: book does. It goes back to original source documents. What
- 1:59Speaker 2: did these founders of our education system, especially our teachers colleges,
- 2:04Speaker 2: what did they believe? What were they trying to do
- 2:07Speaker 2: in America? And it's pretty much summed up by this
- 2:12Speaker 2: one comment. The president of the Ford Foundation said in
- 2:15Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies early eighties, before the Wall fail, that
- 2:21Speaker 2: their goal was to successfully merge the United States with
- 2:25Speaker 2: the USSR, in other words, turn all of our little
- 2:28Speaker 2: kids into good little collectivists.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Well, wait a second, I'm sorry, but the Soviet Union
- 2:33Speaker 1: collapsed a while back. They aren't around anymore. I'm not
- 2:36Speaker 1: quite sure what form of government the dictatorial regime of
- 2:38Speaker 1: Russia currently is, but no longer could be referred to
- 2:41Speaker 1: itself as some sort of communist collective. So since that failed,
- 2:47Speaker 1: and of course every experiment in socialism slash communism has
- 2:51Speaker 1: left its citizenry in a state of poverty and misery,
- 2:56Speaker 1: why does one want to pursue that objective in the
- 2:59Speaker 1: first place? Sir?
- 3:01Speaker 2: Yeah? Though, the first place is because they hate God.
- 3:04Speaker 2: It's basically an anti God religion, and their three main
- 3:09Speaker 2: goals is to destroy private property because God told Adam
- 3:13Speaker 2: and Eve to cultivate the world, to destroy marriage because
- 3:17Speaker 2: that's the first institution that God created, and just destroy religion,
- 3:22Speaker 2: and so they do that by undermining the parental responsibility
- 3:26Speaker 2: to their kids. They put the government in parental locusts,
- 3:30Speaker 2: in other words, in part of the parenting for the kids,
- 3:34Speaker 2: to get kids out of the house as early as possible.
- 3:36Speaker 2: And so that's why I say it's been wildly successful
- 3:39Speaker 2: because in America only thirty four percent of kids can
- 3:42Speaker 2: read at grade level. Well, they want obedient workers. How
- 3:45Speaker 2: do you get obedient workers? Make it so the kids
- 3:47Speaker 2: can't read. So they substituted out whole reading for phonics.
- 3:52Speaker 2: And so yeah, we looked at all this stuff in
- 3:54Speaker 2: our book wook and weaponized. I wish it was a
- 3:57Speaker 2: conspiracy or just incompetence, but yeah, it was done intentionally
- 4:02Speaker 2: to our society to destroy our roots.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Well, I had a conversation or on the program, kind
- 4:07Speaker 1: of springboard off of me just letting them know that
- 4:09Speaker 1: you were going to be coming on the program in
- 4:11Speaker 1: the context of reading, and I just pointed out that,
- 4:13Speaker 1: you know, my children were able to read before they
- 4:15Speaker 1: got to school. Why because mom and dad sat them
- 4:17Speaker 1: down on the lap and we read for two of
- 4:19Speaker 1: them from infancy all the way through. Well when they
- 4:21Speaker 1: were time to go to kindergarten. That's what you do
- 4:23Speaker 1: it's easy, it's fun. It's an enjoyable, pleasurable thing for
- 4:26Speaker 1: a child who that hasn't been introduced to video games yet.
- 4:28Speaker 1: So if more parents boiled down to the point getting
- 4:31Speaker 1: to the point, if more parents had an active involvement
- 4:33Speaker 1: and concern over their child's education, couldn't they counter to
- 4:37Speaker 1: the extent they remain in at public school. We're going
- 4:39Speaker 1: to get to options in a moment. But if they
- 4:41Speaker 1: remain in a woke environment, if parents are aware of
- 4:43Speaker 1: what's being taught, aren't they in a position to counter
- 4:46Speaker 1: that without necessarily having to take them out of school?
- 4:49Speaker 1: I'd involved parent can well keep their kid on the
- 4:52Speaker 1: straight and narrow.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of work, and you have to
- 4:56Speaker 2: do it very intentional to kind of unprogram them every
- 4:59Speaker 2: single day. But yeah, absolutely. Parents would have been embarrassed
- 5:02Speaker 2: forty years ago to send their kids to school without
- 5:04Speaker 2: them learning to read. But because the system has trained
- 5:07Speaker 2: each generation that the system's going to teach them how
- 5:09Speaker 2: to read, now we have parents who expect this public
- 5:13Speaker 2: school teacher to teach thirty kids to read in a classroom,
- 5:15Speaker 2: which is just a ridiculous assumption. So we need to
- 5:20Speaker 2: understand that this mass education is for is specifically designed
- 5:25Speaker 2: to create a uniform, obedient student, basically to create a
- 5:31Speaker 2: soldier for the government that will do whatever those in
- 5:35Speaker 2: power tell them to do.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Now, you are inspired by a very important woman in
- 5:40Speaker 1: your life and the reason and behind the Classical Conversations
- 5:43Speaker 1: incorporated your mom, and she can serve as an inspiration
- 5:47Speaker 1: for a lot of listeners out there who have school
- 5:48Speaker 1: aged children to maybe choose a different path. Am I right?
- 5:52Speaker 2: Yeah, So my mom, Lee Barton's, she homeschooled us through
- 5:55Speaker 2: high school and she started Classical Conversations when I was
- 5:58Speaker 2: a freshman to help other people be able to successfully
- 6:02Speaker 2: educate their kids and get themselves out of this woke
- 6:07Speaker 2: progressive system.
- 6:08Speaker 1: Well in your Classical Conversations and what is that business
- 6:12Speaker 1: designed to do?
- 6:14Speaker 2: Yeah? So we have a full K through twelve curriculum
- 6:17Speaker 2: and we focus on parent empowerment. So we do like
- 6:21Speaker 2: free parent homeschooling boot camps as well as one day
- 6:24Speaker 2: a week homeschooling communities that go through the curriculum with
- 6:28Speaker 2: groups of eight to twelve students. And so it's so
- 6:32Speaker 2: kind of it's kind of an apple of homeschooling. We've
- 6:35Speaker 2: got all the systems designed for you and gives you
- 6:38Speaker 2: a great education.
- 6:39Speaker 1: Now speak to the parent or parents out there that
- 6:42Speaker 1: are listening, going, you know, I would do anything to
- 6:44Speaker 1: be able to homeschool. I just can't because somebody's got
- 6:46Speaker 1: to pay the bills around here. I got to work,
- 6:48Speaker 1: which is why I'm relying on the public schools. There's
- 6:50Speaker 1: been a lot of expansions and improvements and you know,
- 6:54Speaker 1: cooperative working together homeschool parents. You can share the homeschooling
- 6:58Speaker 1: with others, and there are resources out there to do
- 7:01Speaker 1: just that, aren't there.
- 7:03Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's so many more ways people can homeschool.
- 7:06Speaker 2: And of course it's really when they're younger that you
- 7:08Speaker 2: need to be there, you know, twenty four to seven
- 7:10Speaker 2: with them. But yeah, whether it's grandparents stepping in, or
- 7:13Speaker 2: you know, a person that works from home Monday and
- 7:16Speaker 2: another person works from home Tuesday and the kids bump
- 7:19Speaker 2: around to five houses like on your cul de sac
- 7:21Speaker 2: and their homeschooling. You know, there's so many different ways
- 7:25Speaker 2: now to homeschool your kids. And of course a lot
- 7:28Speaker 2: of that is just like we've been programmed through the
- 7:30Speaker 2: poblic school system to be on this consumer hedonistic campster wheel.
- 7:36Speaker 2: Which doesn't satisfy anyone. So a lot of it is
- 7:38Speaker 2: just reordering our lives to things that matter over the
- 7:41Speaker 2: long term instead of short term gains as well.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it has to matter. That's the thing
- 7:48Speaker 1: that bothers me so much, sir, that people just don't
- 7:50Speaker 1: seem to really care about their children. We've got a
- 7:52Speaker 1: societal problem with you know, teenagers, fourteen year olds running
- 7:56Speaker 1: around two o'clock in the morning raising three forms of
- 7:58Speaker 1: Holy hell because all of their social media friends decided to,
- 8:01Speaker 1: you know, converge at one spot, one moment in time.
- 8:03Speaker 1: If you can't, if you don't care about where your
- 8:04Speaker 1: kid is at two o'clock in the morning, I can't
- 8:06Speaker 1: imagine that person having enough concern to know anything that's
- 8:08Speaker 1: going on in that child's life, let alone to know
- 8:10Speaker 1: what the curriculum is at a school.
- 8:13Speaker 2: Yeah, well exactly. But that's been trained to us through generations,
- 8:17Speaker 2: through the school system itself. And so we have to
- 8:20Speaker 2: break the cycle of dependency. We have to break the
- 8:22Speaker 2: cycle of destruction in our families. And so it just
- 8:25Speaker 2: takes fathers returning their hearts back to their children, and
- 8:28Speaker 2: it is sacrificial, Sistle. You do have to give up
- 8:32Speaker 2: certain things that you might want to do in order
- 8:34Speaker 2: to give the next generation more than you have. But
- 8:37Speaker 2: this is the first generation we've had in America that's
- 8:40Speaker 2: looking at the prospect of being less well off than
- 8:42Speaker 2: their parents. Why did that happen Well, because parents decided
- 8:46Speaker 2: to become good little consumers instead of pouring back into
- 8:50Speaker 2: their kids. And so we've had this kind of selfish
- 8:53Speaker 2: generation raising this next one, and we have to cut
- 8:55Speaker 2: it off at its head.
- 8:57Speaker 1: Or Robert not raising children at all because there's so
- 9:00Speaker 1: I don't want to have any.
- 9:02Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and we're dying. The West is dying, not
- 9:05Speaker 2: so much here in the United States, but we're below
- 9:07Speaker 2: replacement rises.
- 9:08Speaker 1: We are.
- 9:08Speaker 2: So it's cultural suicide that we're starting to experience. And
- 9:12Speaker 2: we're already seeing that in Japan and South Korea and
- 9:15Speaker 2: in Europe. I mean, we'll have you know, some of
- 9:19Speaker 2: these countries over there, you won't even recognize them in
- 9:21Speaker 2: twenty years because of just the cultural suicide of not
- 9:26Speaker 2: having children. But of course we've looked at children instead
- 9:29Speaker 2: of a blessing. Now we look at them as a burden.
- 9:32Speaker 2: And so it's just a whole entire si op against
- 9:35Speaker 2: the family. That's been introduced through these Marxist school systems.
- 9:39Speaker 1: It really is, and it's convergence of all these different
- 9:41Speaker 1: left wing elements, most notably, I would say, the Greens,
- 9:44Speaker 1: along with the Dei folks and the others, and this
- 9:47Speaker 1: whole concept of equity. I think the equity component is
- 9:50Speaker 1: where you get the collective dumbing down because you've got
- 9:53Speaker 1: a whole group of people over here that apparently don't
- 9:55Speaker 1: have the resources or whatever it is that they're behind
- 9:58Speaker 1: in school. But we can't have that. We need to
- 10:01Speaker 1: slow everybody else and basically stop those that are that
- 10:04Speaker 1: are that are really outstanding achievers, just to lump them
- 10:07Speaker 1: into mediocrity with everybody else, just because that's what's fair
- 10:11Speaker 1: and that's insane.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Well yeah, that's why all these countries, especially Europe, who's
- 10:16Speaker 2: adopted these things way earlier than the United States and
- 10:19Speaker 2: way more aggressively. I mean, they're they're they're just poor now.
- 10:23Speaker 2: I mean the average European country is poorer than our
- 10:26Speaker 2: poorest state. So, uh, this whole ideology is destructive. But again,
- 10:31Speaker 2: to work work, some people say, I'm smart. I want
- 10:35Speaker 2: smarter people to know more than me so that we
- 10:38Speaker 2: can have medical devices and cure cancer and be it
- 10:42Speaker 2: a fly on airplanes safely. I mean, I want smart people.
- 10:47Speaker 2: And then the fact that we've got these equity programs
- 10:50Speaker 2: that are shutting down, you know, Advanced Learning Opportunities and
- 10:54Speaker 2: AP classes and things like that. I mean, that is
- 10:57Speaker 2: just an asinine perspective that only a Marxist could come
- 11:01Speaker 2: up with.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Yeah, and that in and of itself as suicide. AP
- 11:04Speaker 1: classes are for the smartest. The smartest are the ones
- 11:06Speaker 1: that invent great things and employ all of us. You know, Robert,
- 11:10Speaker 1: I've been a W two employee my entire life. I
- 11:12Speaker 1: thank God for smarter people than me that created the
- 11:14Speaker 1: resources to give me a job. You know, smart people
- 11:17Speaker 1: do great things for America. We need more of them,
- 11:19Speaker 1: not fewer of them. Name of the book, Woke and Weaponized.
- 11:22Speaker 1: How Karl Marx won the battle for American education. How
- 11:25Speaker 1: we can win it? You know, as we part company here, Robert,
- 11:27Speaker 1: and I can't thank you enough for writing this book.
- 11:30Speaker 1: And you wrote it for I understand parents considering homeschooling
- 11:33Speaker 1: Christian families, those who are advocates of classical education. And
- 11:37Speaker 1: that's where I wanted to mention my friends at Cincinnati
- 11:40Speaker 1: Classical because that school does cheat classical education. It's kind
- 11:45Speaker 1: of like Hillsdale College for K through twelve, outstanding resource
- 11:49Speaker 1: for those who are lucky enough to win the lottery
- 11:51Speaker 1: and get in. That's an alternative homeschool, but you're guaranteed
- 11:54Speaker 1: the classical education that you'd be able to do if
- 11:57Speaker 1: you had your own curriculum. And I'll recommend my folks
- 11:59Speaker 1: are listeners get in touch with Classical Conversations in to
- 12:02Speaker 1: check out your curriculum. And again, thank you for the book.
- 12:05Speaker 1: We put your book up on my blog page at
- 12:07Speaker 1: fifty five cars dot com. Soever it can get a
- 12:09Speaker 1: copy of Woken Weaponize Robert. Thank you for what you're doing,
- 12:12Speaker 1: and keep up the great work and keep speaking truth
- 12:15Speaker 1: to this insanity that our children being brainwashed with