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Using Artificial Intelligence to Practice Evangelism with Dr. Drew Dickens & Extraordinary Prayer and Spiritual Awakening with Dr. Ronnie Floyd · Karl and Crew

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  S1: From Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl and crew.
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  S1: Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome what seems
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  S1: impossible and live as you never imagined delivering the truth daily.
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  S2: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available.
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  S2: And you're forfeiting your soul. There's no amount of gain
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  S2: that would make it worth it.
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  S3: Our own way never ever works. Because it's apart from
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  S3: the life source, which is God.
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  S4: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
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  S4: be taken from you. Christ's love can't. And he went
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  S4: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
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  S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
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  S1: and Crew.
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  S5: And this is some tender territory we're covering today in
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  S5: this whole week. It's the unstoppable gospel. And you've. If
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  S5: you've listened any time at all, maybe you're new here.
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  S5: We are wanting to be so true to the gospel.
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  S5: That's the warning in Galatians one. If anyone brings to
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  S5: you another gospel, let him be accursed. Uh. It's not
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  S5: a deserting of the truth. It's actually a deserting of God,
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  S5: is what Paul tells the Church of Galatia. So we
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  S5: got to be clear with the truth of the gospel. Now,
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  S5: the problem in Galatia is that they had begun to
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  S5: kind of adopt external things. So a lot of religious
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  S5: activity that was supplanting the truth of the gospel, that
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  S5: transformed someone from the inside out. And it even affected
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  S5: their discipleship. Because in chapter three, Paul says, who has
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  S5: bewitched you that that you began by the power of
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  S5: the Holy Spirit? Why are you working out in the flesh?
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  S5: So whenever we start to get a little squiggly on
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  S5: what real salvation is and the power of God to
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  S5: change a soul. The downstream effect is it affects discipleship.
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  S5: It's just waters everything down because now we've got this
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  S5: religious ethic rather than the Spirit of God working in us.
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  S5: And it can lead to a deep delusion. I've been
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  S5: asking a question here today inviting you to call whenever
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  S5: you can or we'll call you back. It's a simple question.
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  S5: Were you baptized but you were not born again? Now
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  S5: you might say, Carl, that. Is that even possible? Oh yeah,
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  S5: it's very possible. Number one, it happened to me. It
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  S5: happened to Young Thunder. Many people that are listening right now,
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  S5: we were baptized, but we were not born again. How
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  S5: is that possible? Because cultural Christianity or easy believism or
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  S5: slipping a hand in the air or even walk in
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  S5: an aisle may not indicate that you are now following
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  S5: Jesus Christ. So there's going to be there's going to
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  S5: be fruit that is born out of authentic faith. Now,
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  S5: I don't want to freak people out unduly. So let
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  S5: me give you a word of encouragement here. If you
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  S5: were born again, this is the promise in Romans 816,
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  S5: the spirit capital S himself bears witness with our spirit
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  S5: lowercase s that we are children of God. So there
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  S5: will be a confirmation within, not without, but within that
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  S5: you are truly born again. But the question I got
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  S5: on the table here this morning is this were you
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  S5: baptized and not yet born again? And God in His
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  S5: grace revealed that to you. And the Spirit of God
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  S5: then regenerated your soul, and some of you were baptized again.
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  S5: Some of you are planning to. Some of you are
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  S5: just thinking about it this morning because we're putting it
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  S5: out there for you. 805. 5557898 805 557898 Stephen, Newark, Delaware. Thanks, man.
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  S5: Called in and we called you back. What's your story,
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  S5: my man?
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  S6: Well, Carl. Uh, well, it was I was baptized as
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  S6: a child, but then I was probably over 50 years later, that, uh,
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  S6: circumstance led me to help with the Christmas dinner. And
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  S6: I found out they had a men's Bible breakfast on
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  S6: Saturday morning. So I started attending reading the Bible. And
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  S6: later on I came across a verse, several verses in
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  S6: Mark 721 to 23, and it talks about 13 sins.
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  S6: And I realized that I had committed every one of
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  S6: those sins except murder. But I realized that murder was
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  S6: at my doorstep because I was a dead man walking. Yeah.
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  S6: I had given myself to the Lord. And then the
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  S6: next time the church had a baptism down at the river.
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  S6: And that was on July 15th, 2007. I was baptized
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  S6: at my own volition.
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  S5: You know that. Thank you, Stephen, so much for calling in.
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  S5: And I know that your story can rattle some people,
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  S5: but we. We want to be truth telling, providing comfort
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  S5: for those that are really saved. But you are. Romans 813,
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  S5: when you were really, really born again, because then the
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  S5: Holy Spirit, the spirit confirmed with your spirit that you
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  S5: were now a child of God. Is that right, Stephen?
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  S6: Oh that's correct. Yes. Uh huh. Uh, the thing is,
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  S6: is that, uh, yeah. For sure.
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  S5: Yeah. How many years were you in church over those
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  S5: 50 years?
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  S6: Oh, I was off and on for for years. I
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  S6: went to a parochial elementary school, believed in and out
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  S6: multiple times.
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  S5: Yeah. Thank you for calling in, Stephen. It's an awesome
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  S5: thing when you come face to face with the reality
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  S5: that you were at some point, and we're just using
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  S5: this one baptized but not born again. That can be unnerving,
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  S5: but here's the. Here's the hope. To as many as
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  S5: received him, to them he gave the right to become
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  S5: children of God. And then the Holy Spirit. Capital S
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  S5: the Holy Spirit will confirm and agree with your spirit
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  S5: that you are children of God. And if there's any
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  S5: notion in you right now that you don't know that,
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  S5: my friend, God can remedy that right now. And the, the,
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  S5: the movement of the spirit is this powerful in this moment.
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  S5: Right now. The Spirit of God may be calling you
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  S5: to himself for the very first time. Never before have
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  S5: you been born again. You've been heavily involved in religious activity.
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  S5: You can be an elder to church. You can be
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  S5: on a worship team. You can be in high levels
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  S5: of leadership. And because of the absence of Persecution and
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  S5: the delusion of religious activity. You can be baptized and
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  S5: not born again, and you might be coming here hearing
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  S5: this for the first time. And the Holy Spirit's cutting
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  S5: through saying, today is your day of salvation. And then
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  S5: the only question is, what is it that distinguishes even
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  S5: getting baptized from being born again? There's two key elements.
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  S5: When Jesus sent out the disciples, he gave them a
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  S5: gospel of repentance. That's what we find in the first
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  S5: gospel written in the gospel of Mark. And so they
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  S5: were calling people to turn away from religious activity and
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  S5: to surrender their life to the Messiah, the deliverer. So
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  S5: what does this mean? It means a cry of the
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  S5: soul that says, I'm a sinner, I need a Savior,
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  S5: I am, I'm at the end of myself. Blessed are
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  S5: the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
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  S5: It's followed by repentance, all brought to you by the
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  S5: power of the Holy Spirit. You don't do this. God's
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  S5: doing it in you right now. The cry of your
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  S5: soul is, I'm a sinner. I need a Savior. God
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  S5: save my soul. And then he will change your mind,
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  S5: change your heart, change your direction in life, and you
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  S5: will be born again. And if in this moment, right now,
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  S5: the cry of your soul is Karl, I have never
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  S5: been born again. But the Holy Spirit is speaking into
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  S5: my heart. Praise be to God. And you just walk
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  S5: in agreement and declare right now aloud, Jesus, you are
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  S5: my Lord. I confess with my mouth you are Lord.
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  S5: You're the highest authority in my life. I've never declared
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  S5: this before, and the Holy Spirit's cutting through the fog
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  S5: of Religiosity and bringing salvation to your soul friend. Don't wait.
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  S5: If today is the day of salvation, don't harden your heart.
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  S5: And if this is you, in just a moment, young
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  S5: thunder is going to pray for you. But right now,
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  S5: I want you to know we've got a resource for you.
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  S5: I hadn't planned on this, but the Holy Spirit did.
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  S5: And if today is the day of salvation, count the
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  S5: cost before you build the tower, friend. But if today
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  S5: is the day, the day when the spirit is cut
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  S5: through and revealed to you, I'm a sinner, I need
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  S5: a Savior. No amount of my effort can fix me.
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  S5: Only Jesus, through his shed blood can save me. Praise
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  S5: be to God. And I do praise God. Thank you Lord.
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  S5: And for those that are repenting and turning and following Jesus.
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  S5: For the first time in your life, I want to
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  S5: help you. We're going to get a new Bible into
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  S5: your hand. We're going to give you an opportunity to
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  S5: have someone reach out to you and say, I want
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  S5: to encourage you, help you find a good church that's
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  S5: going to help you grow and grow in your relationship
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  S5: with God. I want you to text the word new
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  S5: right now, wherever you are, wherever you are. Take a moment.
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  S5: Get to the side of the road. Today is the
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  S5: first day of being alive in Christ. Text new to
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  S5: 805 557898. One word new to 805 557898 Jonathan, pray,
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  S5: would you?
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  S3: Yeah. Father, I thank you for these new brothers and
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  S3: sisters that are here that have proclaimed, Lord, that maybe
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  S3: they've been doing religious things and maybe they even got
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  S3: baptized when they were younger, Lord, but they haven't had
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  S3: a relationship with you. Their spirit has not been in
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  S3: line with you. that maybe your spirit started to speak
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  S3: to them today, that they were not children of God
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  S3: because they didn't know you. They haven't surrendered their life
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  S3: to you. God, I thank you for the surrender that
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  S3: you have brought them to at this moment, right now,
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  S3: because it is a blessing God. It only leads to life.
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  S3: You are the way, the truth, and the life. Lord,
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  S3: I pray that you would encourage them to. Yes, to
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  S3: continue to walk closer and daily surrender to you Lord.
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  S3: To just always be in a posture on our knees
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  S3: laying it down. Lord, now that they have experienced your salvation, Lord,
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  S3: that they would experience your grace, to train them, to
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  S3: grow them up in you so that they may look
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  S3: more like you and experience more of your presence, your power,
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  S3: and your joy. God, I pray that you would keep
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  S3: the enemy back. And Lord, as they share their story openly, honestly,
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  S3: and joyfully that you would surround them with brothers and
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  S3: sisters who have been in the faith for a while,
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  S3: who can walk with them, who can help them, who
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  S3: can be their community and their family of God right now.
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  S3: In Jesus name, we pray these things. Amen.
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  S5: Amen. If today is the day right now, this is
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  S5: the moment where the Spirit of God has cut through
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  S5: the fog of who? Rebellion, sin, religious activity, all that
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  S5: external stuff that you've tried to cling to, to confirm
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  S5: that you somehow stand with God. But the spirit has said,
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  S5: you're not my child, but today I'm calling you to myself.
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  S5: Be really clear here. The gospel is the gospel of repentance.
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  S5: It's turning around from the broad path onto this narrow
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  S5: path less traveled in. Jesus is waiting for you with
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  S5: open arms. If you're just getting your phone out and
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  S5: today you are surrendering all you are to Jesus, you're
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  S5: looking in the mirror of your soul saying, I'm a sinner.
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  S5: There's nothing good in me. I need a Savior. Praise
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  S5: God that he caught you in a time like this,
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  S5: and we're going to help you in your first steps
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  S5: with Jesus. Text new to 805 557898. Wherever you are,
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  S5: get to the side of the road. We're going to
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  S5: help you. Text new to 805 557898. I want you
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  S5: to follow every prompt that we send you. Just go, man,
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  S5: this is a great tool that will help you in
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  S5: your first steps with Jesus. Just text new to 805 557898.
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  S5: Just a moment. I'm going to shout out some the
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  S5: last four numbers of your telephone number so that you
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  S5: can hear that we see what God is doing in you,
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  S5: and we see it right now. New to 805, five, five, 78, 98.
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  S5: Today is the day of salvation. It's the beginning of
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  S5: a brand new life. Dave, thanks for holding on. First
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  S5: time caller from Florida asking the question, is it possible
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  S5: to be baptized and not born again? It is. And
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  S5: we've got folks testifying today. Dave, give us your story,
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  S5: my man.
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  S7: It is when you let. When you let pride rule
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  S7: your life. I, as an eight year old, I was
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  S7: in Christian school and I knew I didn't want to be.
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  S7: I didn't want to go to hell because that's that's
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  S7: what was preached to me. So I prayed a prayer
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  S7: and I was baptized as much as you can be
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  S7: for me at that age, but I never really gave
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  S7: God my whole heart. And then in today's church, when
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  S7: you do that and you become an adult, you're just
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  S7: kind of in the club and nobody, nobody questions you.
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  S7: And then for me, you let pride just rule your life.
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  S7: You know, you can't let people see the real you.
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  S7: And we don't do that as, as people in church,
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  S7: we don't want to share that. We hurt and we
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  S7: struggle and people, but people do. But this year, actually
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  S7: January 3rd, my mom passed away. And it just made
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  S7: me question, you know, she, she had that piece that
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  S7: you couldn't fake. And just watching her pass away and
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  S7: go on to heaven made me question everything. Um, and
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  S7: I knew, I knew I didn't have that. Um, so
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  S7: on January 4th, I just kind of poured my soul
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  S7: out to my wife and she was very understanding in
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  S7: a very hard situation. Um, but then I think ten
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  S7: days later, I, I surrender my whole heart. Oh, beautiful.
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  S7: And actually July 5th, which is our anniversary. Um, I
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  S7: was baptized again, this time for real. And I had
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  S7: the privilege of doing that with my two, two of
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  S7: my children in the water with me. Um, and I
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  S7: was able to baptize them. Um, and just show them that,
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  S7: you know, you got to not allow pride to rule
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  S7: your life.
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  S5: That's such a great testimony. Dave, thank you so much
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  S5: for calling in. Dave. First time caller from Florida.
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  S3: My goodness.
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  S5: So sweet man.
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  S3: I love that. You know, because we talk about sometimes
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  S3: how hard it can be to, you know, you've built
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  S3: this life and to say, oh, man, but what are
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  S3: people gonna think? I mean, he had kids, kids who
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  S3: had seen him kind of walk through the cultural Christian
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  S3: stuff and the confidence in what Jesus has now done
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  S3: in you to say, no, that wasn't real. But this
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  S3: is and I want to show you what it looks
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  S3: like is so cool.
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  S5: It's that powerful. Shout out the last four numbers to
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  S5: those of you bowing low before God, surrendering all you
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  S5: are to him today. 52. 66, 49, 25, 1070, 33, 82, 94, 41.
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  S5: Welcome to the family. 6640 1502, 4799, 8385028232043811 you're hearing
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  S5: your numbers. 3432 welcome to the family. 0916 welcome. 0441
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  S5: welcome to the family. 6168 welcome to the family. Beautiful man. Beautiful.
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  S5: Taking your calls. Were you baptized and not born again?
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  S5: But God, by his grace and power, cut through the
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  S5: fog of real self-reliance. At the end of the day,
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  S5: it's churchianity man and God broke through and saved your soul.
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  S5: 800 555, 78, 98 taking calls straight ahead.
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  S1: The gospel changes everything.
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  S2: When you trust the Lord, you can have a different
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  S2: kind of hope. It's anchored in the truth of who
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  S2: he is and that never changes.
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  S1: You're listening to Carl and Crew.
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  S5: Question today, guys. You were baptized, but you weren't born again.
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  S5: And God, by the power of the Holy Spirit revealed
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  S5: to you. It could have been as a child, as
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  S5: an adult. And then you realize by the quickening of
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  S5: the spirit, that realization comes to you supernaturally that you
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  S5: had been baptized, but you were not born again. And
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  S5: we've been hearing stories. I mean, here we go, guys.
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  S5: This is on the nose kind of question because it
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  S5: helps us discern, boy, what was really going on inside
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  S5: my heart and that realization that you had gone through
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  S5: a religious kind of activity or ceremony, but had not
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  S5: been radically transformed from the inside out. It's an inspiring
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  S5: thing when you share your story. 800 555, 78, 98. Joseph,
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  S5: thanks for hanging on. First time caller in Florida. What
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  S5: do you say, my man?
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  S8: How's it going?
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  S5: Going good. Give us your story.
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  S8: Yes, sir. I was baptized a long time ago when
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  S8: I was a kid, and I kept getting in trouble
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  S8: and something just keeps grasping me, like trying to reach
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  S8: out to me. And I didn't know what it was.
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  S8: And I listened to all types of music. But for
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  S8: some reason, I was scrolling through the radio station and it, uh,
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  S8: it just, God just got Ahold of me and told
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  S8: me to pull over and listen to it. And I
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  S8: think this is my calling.
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  S5: Is that when you were born again, Joseph?
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  S8: No, sir, I was baptized and I didn't take it
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  S8: seriously as a kid. And now I think it's time.
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  S5: So right now is when you pulled to the side
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  S5: of the road. AM I hearing this right, Joseph?
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  S8: Yes, sir. I'm on the side of the road right now.
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  S5: Okay. Let me be really clear with you, Joseph. This
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  S5: is really awesome, my man. I need you to hear me.
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  S5: It is a powerful thing that God, by the power
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  S5: of His spirit, had. You tune in here today. Okay.
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  S5: I want you to know that this is from God.
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  S5: And I want to ask you a question in this moment,
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  S5: as the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is God
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  S5: in spirit form that begins to speak into our heart
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  S5: and mind in a way that is supernatural. And he
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  S5: reveals to us some things. He convicts us of the
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  S5: fact that we're a sinner. Do you recognize that you're
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  S5: a sinner and that the biggest problem in your life
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  S5: is Joseph and no one else? Joseph.
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  S8: Yes. Yes, sir, I do.
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  S5: And I want to ask you right now with humble
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  S5: heart and contrite heart, do you do you declare today
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  S5: that you are surrendering all you are to Jesus and
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  S5: he is the highest authority in your life today? Today?
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  S8: Yes, sir.
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  S5: And by the power of the spirit, he's going to
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  S5: turn you around. He's going to change your mind. He's
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  S5: going to change your direction. He's going to change your allegiance.
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  S5: All of this. He's he's changing you in this moment.
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  S5: Are you turning from the broad path of pride, rebellion,
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  S5: foolishness onto the narrow path and surrendering all you are
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  S5: to Jesus as you follow him today? Is that true
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  S5: of you, Joseph?
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  S8: Yes, sir. That is whole heartedly.
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  S5: Yeah. My man God brought you here because he wanted
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  S5: to save your soul. Joseph. He brought you here because
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  S5: he wanted to save your soul. And we got a
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  S5: good God. Jonathan, I want you to pray over him
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  S5: and then keep him on. We're going to get him. Uh,
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  S5: some of this new follower packet sent his way. And
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  S5: what a what a sweet thing, man. I didn't know
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  S5: that he pulled over with this show on. Yeah. Me neither.
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  S3: That's incredible.
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  S5: Pray for him, my man. Let's go.
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  S3: God, I thank you so much that you work in
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  S3: this way, that you love us so much that you
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  S3: would speak to Joseph in this moment saying, Joseph, I
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  S3: want you to pull over and I want you to
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  S3: listen to this radio station. Uh, God praise you for
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  S3: your goodness and your kindness to us because that leads
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  S3: us to repentance. God, I thank you for this new
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  S3: reality that's in Joseph. Lord, it's not just a well,
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  S3: I did this and I, I walked this aisle or
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  S3: I was baptized at this age back then. And that's
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  S3: how I know that I'm. Good Lord. But you have
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  S3: brought him to a place of ultimate surrender to making
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  S3: him your his master in life. God. And that he
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  S3: recognizes that sin and his sin and himself are his
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  S3: biggest problems. Lord, and that you are the remedy to
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  S3: all of that because you've paid the price for him
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  S3: of a penalty he cannot pay on his own. And Lord,
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  S3: you have conquered death and were risen from the dead,
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  S3: proving that you are God and that everything you say
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  S3: is true. God, we thank you for Joseph's newfound trust
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  S3: and surrender in you. God, we just ask that you
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  S3: would carry him today as he leaves Lord and gets
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  S3: back on the road. God, I pray that you would
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  S3: bring people into his life that can walk through this
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  S3: with him.
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  S5: Do it.
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  S3: Lord. Lord, be so tangible and present in his life
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  S3: like never before. In Jesus name we pray. Amen.
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  S5: Amen. Joseph, I love you, man. I want to tell
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  S5: you something. Here's a weird thing, bro, because you have
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  S5: surrendered your life to Jesus Christ. Today we have the
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  S5: same father, Heavenly Father, who sent Jesus to earth and
• 23:06
  S5: the power of the spirit, the Holy Spirit will carry
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  S5: you forward. We're going to get a link to you.
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  S5: We're going to get you hooked up with all the
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  S5: resources you need in this first steps of faith with Jesus.
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  S5: But this is a new day, my friend. Do you
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  S5: hear me, Joseph? This is a new day.
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  S8: Yes, sir.
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  S5: Yeah. Yeah. It's awesome. Tremendous Baptized as a kid and
• 23:28
  S5: just heard us sharing the gospel here. Pulled to God,
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  S5: told him, pulled to the side of the road. And
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  S5: we've got a new brother and Joseph. And that's a
• 23:36
  S5: sweet thing, man. So good. That is a sweet, sweet thing.
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  S1: She was trying to earn her way to God, but
• 23:43
  S1: God showed her. She didn't have to. Ali is in
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  S1: the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
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  S5: Carl and crew. The unstoppable gospel we're tackling all week long.
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  S5: Got a question for you. Were you baptized but not
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  S5: born again? And then God revealed to you that reality.
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  S5: 805 557898 Carol Wesley Chapel, Florida. What do you say, Carol?
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  S9: Hi. Yes, I actually feel that I was baptized in 1979.
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  S9: I think I was just dunked, I know I was
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  S9: just dunked. Yeah. And it took until, um, many, many
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  S9: years later I was searching. It was kind of like
• 24:24
  S9: Alice through the Looking Glass. I never felt as though
• 24:27
  S9: I was really a Christian.
• 24:30
  S5: Yeah.
• 24:30
  S9: And it was. I prayed and prayed and prayed. And
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  S9: God led me to a church and a pastor who
• 24:36
  S9: answered my question by basically telling. I asked somebody else
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  S9: had asked a question in a group about baptism, and
• 24:45
  S9: the answer was for me that it depended on what
• 24:48
  S9: message you were baptized under. And I realized that the
• 24:52
  S9: message I was baptized under was not correct, and I
• 24:58
  S9: the truth was opened up and I was baptized, um,
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  S9: in 2009.
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  S5: Yeah.
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  S9: For sure.
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  S5: Yeah. Isn't that cool, Carol? I mean, here's the reality.
• 25:09
  S5: What's scary is we had somebody text in here a
• 25:11
  S5: couple of years ago now, and it's one of the
• 25:13
  S5: most classic lines ever. It's just something like, hey, I
• 25:17
  S5: got some bad information growing up. We got some bad information.
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  S3: We repeat that one a lot.
• 25:22
  S5: And, Carol, you just got some bad information and let
• 25:26
  S5: me let me tell you, boom crew, what the real
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  S5: information is here. When Jesus sent out his disciples, he said,
• 25:35
  S5: this isn't to say that God can't work through a
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  S5: raised hand. This isn't to say that God can't work through.
• 25:41
  S5: Repeat this prayer after me. Although that's nowhere in Scripture.
• 25:45
  S5: It doesn't mean that God can't move some, move mountains
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  S5: and change souls. When we say, I'm going to walk
• 25:58
  S5: an aisle. But here's what you need to know. There
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  S5: is a massive gap between the amount of people that
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  S5: go to church and those that are truly born again
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  S5: in the Western church. It's just absolute fact. Data points
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  S5: don't lie empirically. I was in that camp. I was
• 26:17
  S5: baptized before I was born again, so was Jonathan. So
• 26:20
  S5: you might say in your listening here right now, much
• 26:23
  S5: like Joseph, who called in earlier, just pulled the side
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  S5: of the road. He heard what we were talking about
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  S5: and he was born again this morning. You can be too.
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  S5: Here's what you need. Here's the right information. Here's the
• 26:32
  S5: right information. Jesus sent out his disciples and we find
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  S5: it early on first chapter of Mark, he sent him
• 26:41
  S5: out and he, he, they brought the good news of repentance.
• 26:48
  S5: So let me tell you what's going on there. Repentance
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  S5: is metanoia. It's a changing of mind, heart, direction, allegiance.
• 26:58
  S5: It's everything gets turned around. And there's a lot of
• 27:04
  S5: us in the church today that have tried to add
• 27:06
  S5: Jesus to our life, or we just say we believe, well, great.
• 27:10
  S5: The demons believe they're monotheistic. They believe that their their
• 27:14
  S5: fate is sealed, that Jesus is the Son of God.
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  S5: They believe that whoever surrenders to him will have life
• 27:20
  S5: and life more abundantly. They just haven't. Nor will they.
• 27:27
  S5: But you can. So the repentance thing isn't even your work. See,
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  S5: we didn't choose God. He chose us. As we find
• 27:36
  S5: in First John. So he called us out of darkness.
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  S5: But in this moment, by the power of the Holy Spirit,
• 27:42
  S5: when I give you good information in the. Biblical information
• 27:45
  S5: is the biggest problem you have in your life. When
• 27:48
  S5: you're not born again is you. You and Jesus came
• 27:54
  S5: to set you free from you in your sin. And
• 28:01
  S5: when the Holy Spirit reveals that, he cuts to the heart,
• 28:04
  S5: and then he makes all things new because he he
• 28:07
  S5: causes us to turn, repent and follow Jesus. I'm just
• 28:11
  S5: going to ask you a bold question. Is the Holy
• 28:14
  S5: Spirit revealing that you've been stuck in a trap of
• 28:17
  S5: religious activity, but you've never been born again. And it's
• 28:20
  S5: like light bulbs are just going off and sirens are screaming.
• 28:24
  S5: It's like, come to me, friend. And you hear Jesus
• 28:29
  S5: calling you. And for the first time ever, you're coming
• 28:31
  S5: to grips with the fact that this isn't about avoiding hell.
• 28:35
  S5: This isn't about me just making sure I'm okay. It's
• 28:39
  S5: about recognizing you ain't okay. You get. You're a sinner.
• 28:43
  S5: You need a savior. And he shed his blood for you.
• 28:47
  S5: And today you're going to repent. You're turning around and
• 28:50
  S5: you're following Jesus, and it's the first time ever. And
• 28:52
  S5: all I can tell you is, according to Romans 813,
• 28:56
  S5: the Holy Spirit will confirm in your spirit that you
• 29:00
  S5: are now children of God. And there will be new
• 29:04
  S5: power and new fruit born in your life. And if
• 29:08
  S5: this is you today and you've never been born again,
• 29:11
  S5: I don't care if you've been baptized before. I was
• 29:14
  S5: Jonathan was before we were born again. Is this the
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  S5: day of salvation for you? And if it is, get
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  S5: to the side of the road. Jonathan, give them a
• 29:23
  S5: link here in just a moment. Get to the side
• 29:25
  S5: of the road. Get your phone out. We are going
• 29:27
  S5: to help you. We'll even get you a new Bible.
• 29:29
  S5: We're going to get someone to reach out to you
• 29:31
  S5: to help you find a good church. We got a
• 29:33
  S5: blog in this little packet that's going to show you
• 29:36
  S5: what to look for in a church where you can
• 29:38
  S5: actually grow in the grace of God. Yeah. What's the link,
• 29:44
  S5: my man?
• 29:45
  S3: Easy. Just text the word new. NEW to 805 557898.
• 29:53
  S3: That's our number. Text new to 805 557898. All that
• 29:57
  S3: stuff is right there, encapsulated in one link to click.
• 30:01
  S3: Super easy.
• 30:02
  S5: Just new light them up. We'll shout out the last
• 30:06
  S5: four numbers of your telephone number. Today is the day
• 30:08
  S5: of salvation. Don't let pride hold you back. Don't let
• 30:11
  S5: religious activity dilute you into thinking you've got something that
• 30:15
  S5: you don't have. acknowledge you're a sinner. You need a Savior.
• 30:22
  S5: There is nothing you can do apart from the grace
• 30:26
  S5: and power of God through His Son, Jesus Christ, and
• 30:30
  S5: turn your life over to him today. If that's you,
• 30:32
  S5: text new right now to 805 557898. Just let's go man.
• 30:40
  S5: Today is the day of salvation. Today, uh, D in Illinois.
• 30:46
  S5: Thanks for holding on. What's your story?
• 30:47
  S10: D um, hi. Hi, Carl. Um, my story is I
• 30:53
  S10: was told by my grandmother that I had to be baptized, uh,
• 30:57
  S10: in order to go to heaven. That's all I knew.
• 31:00
  S10: So I ended up being baptized at like 22 years
• 31:03
  S10: old in a Baptist church. But I didn't know the gospel.
• 31:07
  S10: So fast forward maybe 15, I don't know, maybe 12
• 31:12
  S10: years later, I put my kids in Catholic school just
• 31:16
  S10: because I didn't want them to go to public school.
• 31:18
  S10: So I had to take RCI Rcia classes to become
• 31:23
  S10: Catholic because I had to save $6,000, basically. So I
• 31:28
  S10: was in these classes. I heard stuff I never heard
• 31:31
  S10: before about Mary and all this stuff, and then I
• 31:34
  S10: was like, mm, that sounds interesting. This is kind of serious.
• 31:37
  S10: I need to figure out what's the truth. So I
• 31:40
  S10: was on the metro going to work every day. So
• 31:43
  S10: I decided to go to this Bible school, this Bible store,
• 31:47
  S10: right outside, right outside of Moody. And I got a
• 31:51
  S10: little $2 Bible, and I read it from front to back.
• 31:54
  S10: And while I was reading that on the train, it's
• 31:57
  S10: like scales just boom. And I started looking around and
• 32:03
  S10: I started crying, and I realized that I was a
• 32:07
  S10: sinner and I needed to be saved. I was so excited.
• 32:10
  S10: I got off the train and was telling everybody at work,
• 32:13
  S10: and then I was like, oh my goodness, I've been
• 32:16
  S10: in the world ever since loving Jesus. Oh d that's
• 32:22
  S10: that's my story.
• 32:23
  S5: It's a powerful story. D thank you, sister. Hold on
• 32:26
  S5: the line. By the way, I don't know why I'm
• 32:28
  S5: going to give her a call and crew prize pack.
• 32:29
  S5: I'll tell you why I.
• 32:30
  S3: Like that idea. That's a great idea.
• 32:33
  S5: That's a great.
• 32:34
  S3: Story.
• 32:36
  S5: You. And this is how genuinely God fearing, soul reading
• 32:41
  S5: the Word of God. You will not miss the gospel.
• 32:44
  S5: It's right there. Yeah, it's right there. Uh, welcome to
• 32:49
  S5: the family. 40, 79, 82, 92, 97, 56. This is
• 32:54
  S5: no small thing, man. 88, 35, 29, 74, 22, 17, 83, 90.
• 33:02
  S5: A lot of these first time ever texting here 84, 45, 87, 89.
• 33:09
  S5: Welcome to the family. Listen, you might have heard D
• 33:13
  S5: and you go shoot. I don't think I'm born again.
• 33:17
  S5: I've been baptized. I've served in church. The truth be told,
• 33:21
  S5: I am running in my own strength. I have never
• 33:24
  S5: known the Holy Spirit agreeing with my spirit that I'm
• 33:27
  S5: a child of God. Come on. Today is the day
• 33:29
  S5: of salvation, man. Don't let pride hold you back. Today
• 33:33
  S5: is the day coming up, taking more of your calls.
• 33:36
  S5: You were baptized, but you weren't born again. And now
• 33:39
  S5: you got a story to tell.
• 33:42
  S1: Get to know the team behind the scenes. Follow Carl
• 33:45
  S1: and crew on Facebook and Instagram.
• 33:48
  S5: Yeah, somebody here a text message got baptized before going
• 33:52
  S5: to college thinking I was saved. I was able to
• 33:54
  S5: hold on for about a month in college under my
• 33:56
  S5: own strength, and then completely caved in and left it
• 34:00
  S5: and became part of the college life. It wasn't until
• 34:02
  S5: six years later where I truly met Jesus as the
• 34:05
  S5: Savior of the world. Boom!
• 34:07
  S3: That's awesome.
• 34:09
  S5: You were baptized. You weren't born again. Lee in Newton, Mississippi.
• 34:12
  S5: What's your story here, Lee?
• 34:14
  S11: Good morning, Carl and crew. Yes. I was baptized in
• 34:18
  S11: a swimming pool in sixth grade. I am 63 years
• 34:22
  S11: old now, but it wasn't until I was in my
• 34:26
  S11: early 50s when I started teaching. I'd been teaching Sunday school,
• 34:31
  S11: but I started teaching a Bible study with some women
• 34:34
  S11: and reading a book that threaded, um, the story of
• 34:38
  S11: Jesus from Genesis to Revelation. And you talk about people,
• 34:43
  S11: we will know the Holy Spirit. Yes, you are mine.
• 34:48
  S11: All those things that you did from when you were
• 34:50
  S11: baptized till now. Honey, you are mine. Your life has changed.
• 34:55
  S11: Your eyes are open, your ears can hear. Um. You
• 34:59
  S11: know you are different. You people. You will know, you
• 35:02
  S11: will know. Yeah. There will be no doubt. So not
• 35:06
  S11: to play lightly of the baptism, but I was. I
• 35:10
  S11: was raised in an atmosphere where you better do this
• 35:13
  S11: or or you're going to go to hell. I mean,
• 35:15
  S11: I just was and then Jesus says, wait a minute.
• 35:18
  S11: You know, this is who I am. This is my
• 35:21
  S11: spirit in you, and it is my time. It wasn't
• 35:24
  S11: your time. It is my time and you are mine.
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  S5: Lee, thank you so much. Listen closely guys. Today is
• 35:32
  S5: the day of repentance, man. It's the day of salvation.
• 35:35
  S5: It's looking in the mirror of your soul and saying,
• 35:40
  S5: who I. It's not a fear of going to hell.
• 35:43
  S5: It's a concern that I might miss out on this
• 35:46
  S5: relationship with the God who loves me.
• 35:48
  S1: He was sharing the gospel on the radio and then
• 35:51
  S1: he got saved. Young thunders in the crew. It's Colin
• 35:56
  S1: Crew on Moody Radio.
• 36:00
  S5: Well, I was out of the saddle here for about
• 36:02
  S5: a week and come back and there's been a lot
• 36:04
  S5: going on globally. Northwest Indiana didn't know anything until I
• 36:08
  S5: talked to Super Di last night. That just shows that
• 36:11
  S5: I was being good on my break. I wasn't watching
• 36:15
  S5: the news.
• 36:16
  S3: You were taking time off.
• 36:17
  S5: Off the grid, only to find out, my goodness, that
• 36:20
  S5: little rainstorm that hit us just down the road, a
• 36:22
  S5: piece here, it just blew everything up. Be in prayer
• 36:25
  S5: for people with natural disasters and otherwise all around the globe.
• 36:30
  S5: Whenever you think about it, just pray. Just pray. Lift
• 36:33
  S5: them up. But what else is going on in the
• 36:36
  S5: last week is AI is marching on. I can't wait
• 36:39
  S5: to hear it. What do you got? Drew Dickens come on,
• 36:42
  S5: my man. What's happening in the world of AI?
• 36:44
  S12: You were gone a week. I mean, my gosh, we
• 36:46
  S12: need to start from scratch with you. I know very beginning.
• 36:49
  S12: I know it continues to be the summer of new models.
• 36:53
  S12: Everybody's kind of. Hey, your friend grok Elon came out
• 36:56
  S12: with an update. Uh, so, uh, we continue to see
• 37:00
  S12: new models coming out one after the other. What's really
• 37:02
  S12: been frightening a lot of times when these models will test,
• 37:07
  S12: They call that testing in a sandbox. This limited kind
• 37:10
  S12: of access they have to the outside world. Well, some
• 37:13
  S12: of these models broke out of the sandbox just over
• 37:17
  S12: the last maybe week or two. And, um, boy did
• 37:20
  S12: some real damage. They started breaking into each other's models,
• 37:24
  S12: each other's companies and doing some real, uh, kind of
• 37:27
  S12: concerning work outside the sandbox.
• 37:30
  S5: Yeah. Drew, is that without prompts that it broke out.
• 37:33
  S12: Exactly. So they're going rogue, they're given a task, but
• 37:38
  S12: without any kind of guardrails to complete that task. Um,
• 37:41
  S12: and so they will determine, hey, best thing for me
• 37:44
  S12: to do to find out an answer to that is
• 37:46
  S12: to break out of my sandbox and go break into OpenAI,
• 37:50
  S12: go break into cloud, go break into grok and find
• 37:53
  S12: the answers on the internet. Um, normally these sandboxes keep
• 37:56
  S12: them from getting on the internet, keep them from going public,
• 37:59
  S12: if you will. And so they say, hey, the best,
• 38:01
  S12: most efficient way for me to do that is to
• 38:03
  S12: break out of my sandbox and go invade someone else's
• 38:06
  S12: language model. And that's what they did. And incredibly frightening.
• 38:09
  S12: And so we're starting to we're starting to see more
• 38:12
  S12: and more of that happening. It's been happening for a while,
• 38:14
  S12: but more and more now, all the all the language
• 38:16
  S12: models are showing the capability of doing that going rogue.
• 38:20
  S5: I'm just wondering, is there any is there any way
• 38:22
  S5: to legislate guardrails or is this thing out of the
• 38:25
  S5: box now?
• 38:27
  S12: Well, that's what's wild is the leaders of each of
• 38:29
  S12: these language models are turning to Washington and saying, we
• 38:32
  S12: we don't I don't have enough confidence in myself to
• 38:35
  S12: regulate this. So please regulate it for me. So each
• 38:38
  S12: of these models are basically saying, here are the keys
• 38:41
  S12: to the shop. Please come in and help us regulate.
• 38:44
  S12: This government hasn't figured out how to do that. The
• 38:47
  S12: feds haven't waited too deeply into that yet. They're wanting
• 38:50
  S12: them to kind of work this out themselves. Um, so
• 38:54
  S12: we're starting to see, uh, hesitation more and more from Washington,
• 38:59
  S12: from the government. Um, yeah, on, on, on getting in
• 39:02
  S12: the midst of that. But it's, uh, they're definitely wanting
• 39:05
  S12: them to.
• 39:05
  S5: Okay. Drew Dickens, visionary leader, AI expert, scholar and loves
• 39:11
  S5: Jesus with his whole heart. Coming up here in a moment,
• 39:13
  S5: we have got one of the coolest little tools you
• 39:16
  S5: can imagine, Doctor Drew Dickens. How can we reach our
• 39:19
  S5: neighbors even if we don't speak their heart language? Hang on.
• 39:24
  S1: You're listening to Curl and Crew on Moody Radio.
• 39:30
  S5: The United States of America is a melting pot, and
• 39:32
  S5: with it are a lot of different heart languages. But
• 39:35
  S5: more than just a heart language, it's a culture, and
• 39:38
  S5: in many ways, the gods of that culture. And you
• 39:43
  S5: want to reach him. You want to share the message
• 39:46
  S5: and the hope found in Jesus. But when a Hindu
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  S5: coworker asks, why is Jesus the only way? Or a
• 39:53
  S5: Muslim friend says, the Bible was corrupted, we can freeze.
• 40:00
  S5: That's exactly the challenge that Drew Dickens tackled here. All right. Drew.
• 40:06
  S5: This is so cool. My man, what prompted you to
• 40:08
  S5: come up with a tool that's going to help us
• 40:11
  S5: break through and be an effective witness to our neighbors
• 40:14
  S5: that we love?
• 40:15
  S12: What prompted me was the Holy Spirit through you, through
• 40:19
  S12: the unstoppable gospel theme this week. So one of the
• 40:22
  S12: other things that we're starting to see over the last
• 40:24
  S12: couple of weeks is adoption rates of AI increasing. Barna
• 40:28
  S12: research came out with some reporting last two weeks about
• 40:32
  S12: the adoption of AI from the pew from Christians. And
• 40:36
  S12: so I was I was motivated by unstoppable gospel this week.
• 40:39
  S12: My passion is sharing the gospel. As you know, I've
• 40:42
  S12: been in that ministry for nearly 30 years. And so
• 40:45
  S12: I thought instead of getting bogged down into a debate about,
• 40:49
  S12: you know, can AI save you and whatnot, that's a
• 40:51
  S12: lot of fun. And we can sure do that. But
• 40:53
  S12: I thought, man, how can we use AI as a
• 40:55
  S12: training tool? I've been through every program evangelism, explosion, sharing
• 40:59
  S12: Jesus without fear. I love them all. Yeah. I thought, man,
• 41:03
  S12: what can I do for a training tool? And so
• 41:05
  S12: what I did was working with Campus Crusade for Christ.
• 41:07
  S12: I took their list of the top 12 cultures, unreached
• 41:11
  S12: cultures in the world, and I just used AI to
• 41:14
  S12: build a simple little tool that would allow you to
• 41:19
  S12: choose what that culture is, and then do go through
• 41:22
  S12: a little training essentially on the background of that culture,
• 41:26
  S12: and then sets up a chat bot between you and
• 41:29
  S12: someone from that culture, a virtual person in that culture.
• 41:33
  S12: So you can actually have a conversation with it a Muslim,
• 41:37
  S12: a Buddhist, a Hindu, and get pushback. You can set
• 41:40
  S12: the level of pushback and resistance that you get. And
• 41:43
  S12: so you're able to have as long a conversation. And
• 41:45
  S12: at the end of the conversation, it kind of debriefs
• 41:48
  S12: you and says, hey, here's some things you might want
• 41:50
  S12: to work on.
• 41:50
  S5: So the goal is to save the chat bot. The
• 41:53
  S5: goal is to get stronger chops, right?
• 41:57
  S12: Exactly right. Don't think, hey, you know what? I haven't
• 42:00
  S12: tried that. I wonder if I could save the virtual conversation.
• 42:03
  S12: Now I'm going to go back and work on that.
• 42:05
  S12: That's funny, but, um, but yeah, it's just just to
• 42:08
  S12: get pushback and just to experiment different ways of sharing
• 42:11
  S12: the gospel.
• 42:12
  S5: So drew, this is a training tool that helps us
• 42:16
  S5: anticipate the pushback or the questions or the clarity that
• 42:22
  S5: we are going to receive as we go into those conversations. Correct.
• 42:28
  S12: Yeah. Because none of us like to get, you know,
• 42:29
  S12: caught in a corner and go, oh, I don't know
• 42:31
  S12: how to answer that. I'm afraid to bring it up.
• 42:33
  S12: This is a way to, to sort of like it's
• 42:35
  S12: an evangelism batting cage. That's what this is. It's a
• 42:39
  S12: way to practice sharing your faith. Right?
• 42:41
  S5: Oh, that is beautiful. Okay, give us a little idea.
• 42:44
  S5: Let's go with Hinduism. Now, the problem with Jesus being
• 42:47
  S5: the only way, and he said it himself is that
• 42:52
  S5: they have could be hundreds of thousands of gods. And when.
• 42:58
  S5: And they put Jesus in there as one of their gods.
• 43:02
  S5: How will this tool help someone understand things about Hinduism
• 43:07
  S5: in the barriers for communication? Just run us through how
• 43:11
  S5: that works.
• 43:12
  S12: So I built this thing just in a couple of minutes.
• 43:15
  S12: By the way, I wanted to show your listeners how
• 43:18
  S12: easy it is to use AI to think outside the
• 43:21
  S12: box and create new tools that we've never used before,
• 43:24
  S12: and so on. The app that's on, that's live right now, uh, it, uh,
• 43:29
  S12: it assigned me to talk to a 39 year old
• 43:32
  S12: school teacher, a Hindu from North India. Uh, he's open
• 43:36
  S12: but guarded. And so the first thing it gives is
• 43:39
  S12: just kind of explains to me their worldview, some of
• 43:42
  S12: the objections I might hear, like all religions are true
• 43:45
  S12: paths to the same God. If I convert, I abandon
• 43:48
  S12: my parents. I've heard that one a lot from from
• 43:50
  S12: Hindu and Islam as well. And then some of the
• 43:53
  S12: tips about contrasting karma with grace and karma says you
• 43:58
  S12: carry your own debt. But the cross says grace relieves
• 44:01
  S12: us of that. Um, avatars. And so it goes through
• 44:04
  S12: some of that. And then you just get into the,
• 44:06
  S12: you just click start conversation and there is Vikram. His
• 44:10
  S12: name starts typing to me questions and he starts by
• 44:14
  S12: saying not Namaste. Oh, sorry. Force of habit greeting everyone.
• 44:18
  S12: You're new around here. I teach school at a secondary
• 44:21
  S12: school down the road. Been getting my chai here for
• 44:24
  S12: years at a coffee shop, and so it sort of
• 44:27
  S12: eases you into someone that you might meet at a
• 44:30
  S12: coffee shop in that way.
• 44:32
  S5: Yeah. A lot of fears for people who are like,
• 44:34
  S5: oh my goodness, why is this a batting cage tool
• 44:38
  S5: as opposed to something that could get him in the weeds?
• 44:40
  S5: And I think I'm most particularly asking, how did you
• 44:44
  S5: prompt this program to give solid biblical answers, as opposed
• 44:50
  S5: to some chatbot who doesn't know diddly squat about the
• 44:54
  S5: Word of God?
• 44:55
  S12: Sure. And you use use the keyword which is prompting it.
• 44:58
  S12: So the first thing I did was asked it to
• 45:00
  S12: stay within Orthodox Christian teaching, gave it some teachers that
• 45:06
  S12: it might want to, to, to reference Moody, some of
• 45:10
  S12: the teachings that your listeners would be familiar with on your,
• 45:13
  S12: on your radio programs. So stay within an Orthodox Christian view.
• 45:16
  S12: And then quite simply, just, uh, using, uh, anthropic on
• 45:20
  S12: this one using Claude just asked it to build out
• 45:23
  S12: this chatbot. And then I just started experimenting with it,
• 45:26
  S12: did a lot of just updates, changed the color of
• 45:29
  S12: the windows and things like that, but asked it right
• 45:31
  S12: up front. Stay within orthodox biblical Christianity.
• 45:35
  S5: That is absolutely thrilling because there are I mean, you
• 45:39
  S5: take evangelism explosion. De James Kennedy came up with that
• 45:43
  S5: many years ago, and he would give biblical counterpoints, points, counterpoints,
• 45:50
  S5: how to approach with love and all these things, what
• 45:54
  S5: you've done here in a few minutes is create a
• 45:57
  S5: robust app that allows us to take. How many different
• 46:01
  S5: culture groups did you look at here?
• 46:04
  S12: 12. So I went to Campus Crusade and they said
• 46:06
  S12: 12 is sort of their number that they focus on.
• 46:09
  S12: So I took their top 12.
• 46:11
  S5: This is amazing. Drew.
• 46:13
  S12: When I was teaching evangelism explosion, I used to joke
• 46:15
  S12: about how many times I would bring my steering wheel
• 46:18
  S12: to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ, just practicing going
• 46:22
  S12: through the outline, right? But this is a way for
• 46:25
  S12: me to have some pushback, some engagement with something I'm
• 46:27
  S12: not going to say someone, something that is a little
• 46:31
  S12: different every time and throws little curve balls. And so
• 46:34
  S12: it's a way to practice.
• 46:35
  S5: This is revolutionary and you're getting it first right here.
• 46:38
  S5: Boom crew. This is so cool. Drew made this for you.
• 46:41
  S5: I mean, how awesome is this? This is one of
• 46:45
  S5: the most thrilling episodes I've ever been a part of here.
• 46:48
  S5: This is crazy. Anyone else feeling that here today?
• 46:52
  S12: Last night.
• 46:53
  S3: Yeah, I love this. The opportunity to to get through
• 46:57
  S3: some of those things that make us so scared before
• 46:59
  S3: we ever start a conversation. You can kind of practice
• 47:02
  S3: with that with a, with a thing that will, will
• 47:06
  S3: say all the things that you're probably most afraid of
• 47:08
  S3: so you can become less afraid of it.
• 47:10
  S5: Yeah. And what's awesome about this, drew, is most of
• 47:14
  S5: us don't know all the varied theological, really more cultural
• 47:19
  S5: pushback or resistance or clarity that people need. But this,
• 47:26
  S5: this little platform will help intercept and really give us
• 47:31
  S5: a heads up, won't it?
• 47:32
  S12: Yeah. Exactly right. It's a batting cage. It's like going
• 47:35
  S12: to the driving range. You can always just sort of
• 47:37
  S12: tweak this. I'm going to try saying this way, this
• 47:39
  S12: time in a safe environment.
• 47:41
  S5: Guys, you got to check this out. Text the word
• 47:44
  S5: drew drew to 805 5578982 links in here. One is
• 47:50
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• 47:54
  S5: you're going to be blown away. And the other one's
• 47:57
  S5: going to get you to his general website, where we've
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  S5: got lots of resources for you right there. Text drew
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  S5: to 800 555 7898, drew to 805 557898. Enjoy, guys.
• 48:13
  S5: What a tool coming your way this morning.
• 48:16
  S1: Walking closer to Jesus every day. You're listening to Carl
• 48:20
  S1: and crew.
• 48:21
  S5: So get a theme this week, the unstoppable gospel. And
• 48:24
  S5: so when we get in an expert and a great
• 48:27
  S5: man of God like Doctor Ronnie Floyd, and he's written
• 48:30
  S5: a study titled Unstoppable Gospel just about 11 years ago. Ronnie,
• 48:34
  S5: you never told me that before, my man. Thank you.
• 48:38
  S13: Well, thank you. It's good to talk to you, Carl.
• 48:40
  S5: Oh my goodness. Okay. What have you been in the
• 48:43
  S5: trenches a lot of years here, my man. What have
• 48:46
  S5: you learned? Uh, I know that you've written on the
• 48:50
  S5: power and authority of God's Word, proclaiming the gospel of
• 48:52
  S5: Jesus Christ, boldly calling people to respond. And that's all
• 48:56
  S5: part and parcel of this great commission. Little study that
• 48:59
  S5: you did, but help us, Ronnie. Uh, I feel like
• 49:03
  S5: we have got a there's more God fearing people that
• 49:07
  S5: deserve a fair shot at the gospel than we sometimes
• 49:12
  S5: have the equipment to get that message to them. What
• 49:15
  S5: have you learned?
• 49:16
  S13: Well, I really believe I've learned simply, Carl, the power
• 49:21
  S13: of the gospel.
• 49:22
  S5: Yes.
• 49:23
  S13: Simply the reality that, you know, Christ died, Christ was buried,
• 49:29
  S13: Christ was raised from the dead, and people witnessed his
• 49:34
  S13: resurrection life, his resurrected body. And that in itself is
• 49:40
  S13: the power of the gospel. And, you know, we can
• 49:44
  S13: talk about all kinds of things about this or that
• 49:48
  S13: or what churches can do or what people can do
• 49:51
  S13: and all those things. But the real power is in
• 49:56
  S13: the gospel of Jesus Christ. And once that gospel begins,
• 50:00
  S13: that gospel does not end. And the more churches and
• 50:04
  S13: people share that gospel, the more people seemingly come to
• 50:09
  S13: Christ when they hear the news of the gospel.
• 50:12
  S5: How important is it to disavow people of the mis
• 50:17
  S5: nomer that we somehow save people? Praise be to God, Ronnie.
• 50:22
  S5: We don't do that. We're messengers, right, my friend? And
• 50:25
  S5: that distinction is vital.
• 50:27
  S13: Oh, absolutely. You're correct. We are not anything other than
• 50:31
  S13: the messengers of the Lord. We don't save anyone. Um,
• 50:35
  S13: I remember having a man tell me. He said, I
• 50:39
  S13: need you. I need you to save my wife. Like
• 50:42
  S13: I like you saved me. And I said, whoa whoa whoa. Stop.
• 50:47
  S5: Stop the train!
• 50:49
  S13: No. You know, uh. Hey, I'm not that good, dude.
• 50:52
  S13: And you, if you got saved by me, then you're
• 50:54
  S13: gonna have to be really saved again. So, uh, you know,
• 50:58
  S13: I can't do that for you or for your wife.
• 51:00
  S13: And I didn't do it for you. God did that
• 51:02
  S13: for you, and he meant that he just didn't know
• 51:05
  S13: the language. I mean, he had had his life radically
• 51:08
  S13: transformed by the gospel of Jesus Christ. And I led
• 51:12
  S13: him to the Lord in in a boardroom in this region.
• 51:17
  S13: And so but the point is, he wanted the Lord
• 51:20
  S13: to change his wife in the same way God had
• 51:24
  S13: changed him. That is the power of the gospel.
• 51:27
  S5: That is the power of the gospel. Doctor Ronnie Floyd.
• 51:30
  S5: Our guest right now, Ronnie, how do we disavow people?
• 51:35
  S5: I mean, there's this notion that if they're going to
• 51:38
  S5: get saved, I need to bring them to church. And
• 51:40
  S5: by the way, I'm not opposed to that because sometimes
• 51:43
  S5: a pastor is a clear communicator of the gospel and.
• 51:47
  S5: Clarity is important, but the. The equipping of the saints
• 51:53
  S5: to do the work of ministry, by the way evangelists
• 51:55
  S5: were called to. Their primary role was to equip the
• 51:59
  S5: saints to do the work of evangelism. How have we
• 52:02
  S5: missed it? What can we do to broaden the amount
• 52:06
  S5: of people that are equipped to reach their neighbors and
• 52:09
  S5: loved ones?
• 52:10
  S13: You know, the problem is we, we, we must mobilize
• 52:14
  S13: pastors and churches to train people and to motivate people
• 52:20
  S13: to share Christ. And, you know, there have been all
• 52:25
  S13: kinds of ways to do that. You know, that you
• 52:27
  S13: could name them and name numerous of them, numerous opportunities
• 52:33
  S13: relating to that. But there seems to be a lack
• 52:37
  S13: of emphasis on the need to evangelize personally through many
• 52:46
  S13: churches today at the same time, which shows the mystery
• 52:51
  S13: and the power of the unstoppable gospel. We're seeing great
• 52:55
  S13: things happen and many people coming to Christ. And so,
• 52:59
  S13: you know, if we could ever harmonize those two and
• 53:03
  S13: we could have this mysterious movement of the Lord that
• 53:06
  S13: is happening in many places across America today, along with
• 53:12
  S13: the sprinklings of spiritual awakening happening in various places in
• 53:18
  S13: the country today, along with a diligent church that is
• 53:22
  S13: absolutely on mission with God. I must touch my city
• 53:28
  S13: with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. And here is my
• 53:31
  S13: strategy to touch that city with the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
• 53:35
  S13: That is a totally different mindset than what you ever
• 53:40
  S13: see in most churches in America today?
• 53:43
  S14: Yeah. What do we got to do?
• 53:44
  S5: Ronnie, what was going on during the great awakenings in
• 53:48
  S5: our nation that, by the way, didn't result in, you know,
• 53:51
  S5: a tipping point of 51% getting saved. It was 15%,
• 53:56
  S5: which were such a powerful movement of God. It changed
• 54:01
  S5: everything about our nation. What was going on then that
• 54:03
  S5: we need to really get sobered up about and begin
• 54:08
  S5: to ask God to incorporate into the hoop and wharf
• 54:11
  S5: of the church today.
• 54:12
  S13: Well, I think when you look at the first Great Awakening, um,
• 54:15
  S13: it is it is undeniable that the Ministry of Extraordinary Prayer,
• 54:21
  S13: even with fasting, was promoted by Jonathan Edwards. And Jonathan
• 54:28
  S13: Edwards called for explicit agreement, meaning clear agreement, that our
• 54:34
  S13: need in these new colonies is a great move of God,
• 54:41
  S13: and we need to go past what we're used to,
• 54:45
  S13: and we need to become visibly united in this effort
• 54:50
  S13: as pastors and churches, and we must practice this extraordinary prayer.
• 54:57
  S13: And they had a rhythm of prayer and rhythm of fasting.
• 55:02
  S13: And the end result was God raised up not only
• 55:07
  S13: Jonathan Edwards, but George Whitefield to proclaim the gospel of
• 55:12
  S13: Jesus Christ. And Whitfield was best known for preaching the
• 55:17
  S13: gospel of Jesus Christ and calling people to be born again.
• 55:23
  S13: And so those things must occur. The revival of 1857
• 55:30
  S13: in America, where 1 million Americans were saved, there were
• 55:33
  S13: only 30 million in the country then. And so. But
• 55:37
  S13: 1 million came to Christ because of this great prayer revival.
• 55:41
  S13: You go to the Welsh revival. Well, with Evan Roberts.
• 55:46
  S13: I mean, prayer was at the heart of that. Yeah.
• 55:49
  S13: And obedience to the spirit was the watchword. He said
• 55:53
  S13: again and again and again. Here's this 26 year old
• 55:57
  S13: man God raised up. And here he said it to
• 56:01
  S13: his people, obey the spirit, obey the spirit, obey the spirit. And,
• 56:07
  S13: you know, the whole thing was God was using the
• 56:10
  S13: good news of Christ in all of that. And so
• 56:14
  S13: there has to be a combination of extraordinary prayer, perhaps
• 56:19
  S13: some with fasting, the power of the gospel, and the
• 56:22
  S13: preaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Those things must
• 56:26
  S13: not be compromised.
• 56:28
  S5: Love it.
• 56:29
  S14: You know.
• 56:29
  S5: I've thought about this because I've been a part of
• 56:31
  S5: two little localized awakenings that were definitely a move of God.
• 56:35
  S5: One was in little Rock with a group of single adults.
• 56:38
  S5: One was in Alaska, and I think we're on the
• 56:40
  S5: edge of one right now here in Chicagoland. And there's
• 56:44
  S5: a lot of listeners that are maybe in in it
• 56:46
  S5: right now. You know, prayer is such a fascinating thing
• 56:52
  S5: and there's a mystery involved with it. But Ronnie, do
• 56:56
  S5: you think that prayer moves the hand of God, or
• 57:00
  S5: is it more akin to us getting aligned with God
• 57:06
  S5: in his purposes when we bow our heart before him
• 57:10
  S5: in prayer?
• 57:11
  S13: I believe the more we align ourselves under God through prayer, uh,
• 57:16
  S13: the more the hand of God is demonstrated in through
• 57:20
  S13: our lives and all that God is doing. Prayer. I've
• 57:24
  S13: said this for years and I and I, and I'm
• 57:26
  S13: really cautious to, to say it, um, in certain settings
• 57:31
  S13: because I don't want to be misunderstood because I do
• 57:33
  S13: believe that, that our prayers matter. I do believe it
• 57:37
  S13: does move the hand of God and the. And the
• 57:40
  S13: heart of God. That's evident. Look at Jonah, chapter three. Yes.
• 57:44
  S13: I mean, there was a there was a major change
• 57:47
  S13: that occurred. But the. But the ultimate thing in prayer
• 57:51
  S13: is that God changes us. And when God changes us,
• 57:56
  S13: that is in reality where the Lord's manifested presence comes
• 58:02
  S13: upon his people. That is what revival is. It is
• 58:06
  S13: the manifested presence of God in us and around us
• 58:10
  S13: and through us. And all of a sudden we see
• 58:13
  S13: these these things occur that there's no way in the
• 58:16
  S13: world they would ever occur without the hand of God
• 58:19
  S13: and the favor of God.
• 58:21
  S5: Yeah. And I come back to this, Ronnie. I can't
• 58:24
  S5: avoid it. We've talked about it before, but humility, when
• 58:27
  S5: you really bow a heart before God, that that's an
• 58:31
  S5: act of humility that undeniably positions us into God's hand.
• 58:37
  S13: Exactly. And we have to stop talking about what man
• 58:40
  S13: can do. We need to talk about what God can do.
• 58:43
  S13: And the church has seen enough of what men can do.
• 58:46
  S13: The church needs to see what God can do. And
• 58:49
  S13: that's what America needs to see. And I think that's
• 58:52
  S13: what America is seeing in various places today. Yeah. The
• 58:56
  S13: good news is, is that we are seeing some of
• 58:58
  S13: these great moves of the Lord that give us extraordinary hope. Uh, and,
• 59:05
  S13: you know, I have a dear brother that I've helped
• 59:08
  S13: in a, in a real, uh, powerful initiative this year
• 59:13
  S13: about seeing a million people come to Christ. And as
• 59:16
  S13: he looks at as he looks at all that's happened
• 59:20
  S13: in America, he is convinced, uh, that there's been at
• 59:24
  S13: least a million people to come to Christ this year
• 59:26
  S13: as he's evaluated figures and facts and various things that
• 59:31
  S13: have gone on. Well, you know, whether that is right
• 59:35
  S13: or whether that is wrong, whether that whether whether any
• 59:39
  S13: of that goes. The good news is, what is that?
• 59:43
  S13: There's evidence that God is working. Amen. We have we
• 59:47
  S13: have lived in this country when there's been, uh, maybe
• 59:51
  S13: a little less evidence. And, uh, and so, you know,
• 59:55
  S13: even as sin abounds, here's the good news. Grace does
• 59:59
  S13: much more about.
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  S5: like this text the word fast to 805, five, five, 78,
• 1:00:10
  S5: 981 word, fast to 800 555, 78, 98. My word
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  S5: to you right now. And here it is. Let's go.
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  S5: Boom crew. Let's be a people of prayer moment by moment,
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  S5: out throughout the day. Posture a heart before him. Humble
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  S5: ourselves under his hand. We get aligned with God. We
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  S5: pray his hand moves.