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The Bill Gates Epstein Related Congressional Transcripts (Part 5) (6/27/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're gonna pick up where
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we left off with the Bill Gates transcript from his
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interview with Congress. Question. My name is redacted. I'm an
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attorney for the Minority, and I'll be asking most of
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our questions today. In the course of doing so, I'm
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likely to touch on some of the issues that my
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Majority colleagues covered with you in the previous round. In
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doing so, I don't want to make you repeat yourself.
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I just want to make sure that we have a
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clear record at the end of this proceeding. Garcia, can
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you speak into your microphone? Redacted? Sure? Is this better question? Okay? Apologies.
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I'm going to start if I could, by talking about
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a few of the individuals whom we understand have been
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connected with Microsoft or with the Gates Foundation, and whom
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we understand had a relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. You spoke
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at length with my Majority colleagues about mister Nikolic. If
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I could start with him, just a couple of quick questions.
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Did he ever mention anything to you about Jeffrey Epstein's
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proclivity for young women or teenage girls. Answer no, Doctor Nikolich.
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Question Doctor Nikolich, thank you. And did doctor Nikolich ever
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mention anything to you about Jeffrey Epstein's sexual relationship with
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young women or girls? Answer no. Question. The next individual
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that I'd like to ask you about is Steven Sinofsky.
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Who is mister Snovsky? Answer Steven Sinofsky worked in senior
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engineering positions at Microsoft for a long time. Question and
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when did you meet mister Sinofsky? Answer A long time ago.
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Early in his Microsoft career, he served in a job
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as technical assistant to me. Question did you become aware
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at some point that mister Sinofsky had a relationship with
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Jeffrey Epstein? Answer no. Question. Did you ever become aware
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of Jeffrey Epstein providing professional service of any kind to
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mister Snofsky? Answer through the press this year? Question not
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prior to this year? Answer not prior. Question did mister
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Sinofsky ever mention anything to you about Jeffrey Epstein's proclivity
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for young women or teenage girls? Answer we never. The
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name Epstein never even came up in any conversation I
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had with mister Sinofsky. Question and as we understand, in
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April of twenty thirteen, Jeffrey Epstein was helping mister Sinofsky
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negotiate his exit package from Microsoft. Is that something that
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you were aware of? Answer? Not at all? Question, and
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then moving on to the next individual, Melanie Walker. And
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before I proceed with my questions, I'm going to ask
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the court reporter to mark as exhibit a a Wall
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Street Journal article of June seventh, twenty twenty six, titled
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the Hidden Figure with close Ties to Bill Gates and
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Jeffrey Epstein. Mister Gates, I'm not going to ask you
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any questions about the article, but I understand that one
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or more of our members will later in the hour answer, okay, question,
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I just wanted to enter it into the record. Gates
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Minority Exhibit A. Question, can you tell us who is
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Melanie Walker? Answer? Doctor Walker worked at the Gates Foundation
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for a period, then she worked for the World Bank
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for a period. She's also an advanced brain surgeon. Question
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when did you first meet doctor Walker? Answer would have
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been when she was at the Gates Foundation. Answer? And
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when did she start working at the Gates Foundation? Answer,
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I'm not sure. Two thousand and seven something like that.
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I'm not sure. Question were you aware at the time
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she started working at the Gates Foundation that she had
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a prior relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Answer no, although she
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did send me an email after my first dinner with
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Epstein asking my impression, so I was aware that she
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knew him. Question and that was the first dinner you
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discussed earlier in twenty eleven, answer that's right. Question. Did
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doctor Walker ever mention anything to you about Jeffrey Epstein's
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proclivity for young women or teenage girls? Answer no. Question.
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I'm going to ask the court reporter to mark as
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exhibit B a back and forth of text messages. Question.
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It's from various dates in September of twenty seventeen, Bates
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number EFTA zero one, six, two, zero, seven, three, six
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through seven forty two, And mister Gates, please take all
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the time you need to review the exhibit. I'm only
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going to be focusing on the last page that's Bates
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number seven forty two. The names of the participants in
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this conversation don't appear in the document. We understand that
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they're Jeffrey Epstein and doctor Walker, and looking at page
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seven forty two, the chat at the top reads Larry
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will join management tomorrow at BG at the BGC three office.
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Larry also invited two junior staffers. Larry will not join
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and is not aware of other meetings, but he's starting
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to really get annoying. Are there any signals I can
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send or words I can use to let him and
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BG know I'm not messing around any word words I
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can use with Larry directly or with him in BEG
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and right below we understand to be Jeffrey Epstein's response
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with BG. All you would have to say is you
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should know that I've told Jeffrey everything everything, understanding that
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you are not a participant in the conversation. Have you
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seen this before? Answer? Only when it was released? Is
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part of the Epstein files In January, question do you
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have any understanding as to what Jeffrey Epstein was referring
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to here by the word everything? Answer? I don't have
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any value to add here. Question and again on the
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same page, the following text reads, I'm worried he will
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immediately retaliate against me and what we again understand to
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be Jeffrey Epstein's response. You can always say I also
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like blue dresses colon close parentheses, which I take to
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be a smiley face emoji. Do you have any understanding
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as to what mister Epstein was referring to there by
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a reference blue dress? Answer? We can both speculate. Question
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Can you speculate for us in your opinion? What do
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you think you was referencing Gates? It appears to be
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a reference to the Monica Lewinsky affair or whatever you
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call it with President Clinton. Question and you have strike
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that during your relationship with mister Epstein, did you too
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ever discuss the blue dress Gates? No question, No further
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questions on this document. Question. Doctor Walker has reportedly claimed
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that Jeffrey Epstein introduced her to two professional contacts who
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sexually propositioned her. Are you familiar with doctor Walker's claim?
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Answer not at all. Question did doctor Walker ever warn
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you about Jeffrey Epstein? Answer is certainly not during the
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time that I knew mister Epstein. Question. The Wall Street
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Journal I'll represent reported that in August of twenty fourteen,
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doctor Walker sent you what appeared to be a warning
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about Epstein, stating that you should maintain quote a healthy
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distance for anything of a personal nature unquote. When Dylan
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with Jeffrey Epstein, do you recall that email. Answer, I
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do not. Are you sure you have the day correct question?
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This is a reported by the Wall Street Journal, so
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I can't confirm their reporting. And you don't recall doctor
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Walker ever saying anything to you in the vein about
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Jeffrey Epstein. Answer not during the time that I knew Epstein.
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No question subsequent to the time that you knew Epstein. Answer,
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you know, in twenty seventeen, his name may have come up,
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and I said, the whole Epstein thing was confusing to me,
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and she didn't really shed much additional light on my confusion.
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Question what was the context of that discussion? Answer? You know,
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she had left the employe of the Gates Foundation and
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was doing some scientific consulting work for me, and so
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during that time period it briefly came up. Question And
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when you said the Epstein situation was confusing to you,
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what were you referring to by situation? Answer? What was
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the Epstein thing? How did he make money? What was
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his what was he trying to do? To this day,
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I don't find a fully satisfactory explanation of, you know,
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how he got his wealth and a variety of things.
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Question You've spoken some detail during the previous round about
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your various meetings with Jeffrey Epstein between twenty eleven and
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twenty fourteen. If I could, I would like to just
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walk through some of those in particular with you in
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a bit more detail, using some documents that we have obtained.
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I'll ask the court reporter to mark as Exhibit C
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an email dated January twenty eighth, twenty eleven, with the
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subject line I'm sorry with no subject line Gates Minority
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Exhibit C question. The text of the email reads, Hey, redacted,
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Bill Gates and Boris Nikolitch is coming for dinner at
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seventy first this Monday and Tuesday night, both nights. Jaye
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asked if you could take off work to help with
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the dinner. It's only three to four people, but he
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would really like you there. Does this work for you?
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And to our understanding, mister Gates, you are not on
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this email, but I'm interested in the reference to both nights.
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Do you recall a meeting with Jeffrey Epstein on two
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consecutive nights in January? Answer? I did not question, so
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do your knowledge to that extent this email is inaccurate? Answer?
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That's right question, And just to be clear. The email
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refers to three to four people expected for one or
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both of those dinners. Is that the number of people
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you recall being there? Answer? I think January thirty first
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dinner was. During the dinner, just myself, doctor Nikolic and
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mister Epstein. Question and outside of the dinner, do you
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recall anyone else being present? Answer? Yeah, that's the time
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when Eva Dubin and her daughter drop by after dinner.
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Question I understand from your testimony in the previous rounds
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that Jeffrey Epstein extended an invitation for you to visit
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his island, Little Saint James. Is that correct? Answer? I
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think on several occasions he did question and you never
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accepted that invitation. Answer? I never did question? And why
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was that? Answer? It? It wasn't of interest to me.
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Question Was there something in particular that was off putting
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about the idea for you? Answer? My time's quite valuable,
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and I didn't think it was interesting. It was kind
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of a relationship we had. Question did he mention why
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he was inviting you to the island gates? I guess
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to expand our relationship, to have a social element to it,
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I'm not sure. Question And to be clear there was
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no specific purpose. It was to meet with Epstein generally speaking,
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but there wasn't an event that you were going to
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go to on the island, Gates know, or that I
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was invited to Gates. I never went to the island.
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Question continuing chronologically twenty twelve, do you recall specific meetings
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with Jeffrey Epstein in twenty twelve? Answer? Yeah, I saw
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him for two dinners in the fall of twenty twelve.
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Question where do those dinners take place? Answer? Both at
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his placed in New York City. Question and can you
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tell us, respectively who was in attendance at those two dinners? Answer?
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Maybe I should look at the document, so they go
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off record, then they come back on Gates. Okay, sorry, okay, yeah,
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let me correct what I said. One of the twenty
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twelve meetings was at the New York City Four Seasons
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and the other during the General Assembly week at his residence.
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Question and refreshing your recollection based on the chronology you
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just looked at. Answer that's right. Question Can we start
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with the Four Seasons meeting? Who was there? Answer? I
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think that's another meeting where Eva Dubin and a friend
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of hers drop by. But they were not part of
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the meeting. Question what's your understanding was miss Dubin's relationship
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to Jeffrey Epstein? Answer it appeared that there were friends.
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Question and then the second twenty twelve meeting was at
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Jeffrey Epstein's residence. If I understand correctly, answer that's right.
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Question and who was in attendance at that meeting? Answer?
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He brought along two Norwegians, one Terry rod Larson and
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the other is Jagline Something question something Norwegian? Answer something
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Jaglind question anyone else? Answer? I think doctor Nikolic was
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at that dinner. Question What was the topic of discussion
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at that dinner? Answer? Well, you know, it was generally
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about the world. One of those men had been the
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number two at the United Nations I think under Kofianon,
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and the other gentleman I think, had been Prime Minister
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of Norway and various other political type things. So the
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dinner would have discussed, you know, their views of the world.
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You know, I would have talked about my foundation work,
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including things like polio eradication. It was, you know, the
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first time that I met either of those two men.
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Question the Four Seasons dinner. Answer not dinner question meeting
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answer meeting question meeting. What was the topic of discussion
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at that meeting? Answer? I'm not sure that I recall
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the specifics that you know. I hadn't seen Epstein for
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well over a year, so I may have updated him
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on what I was up to. Question and then again,
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proceeding chronologically, moving into twenty thirteen, Do you recall specific
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meetings that you had with Epstein during that year? Answer?
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I met him that year. Yes. Answer. Do you recall
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meeting him at the Weston in California at some point
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during twenty thirteen? Answer no. Question No, if I could
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ask the court reporter to mark as Exhibit D an
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email which we understand to have been prepared by one
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of Epstein's assistants containing his schedule from February and March
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of twenty thirteen, Gates Minority Exhibit D mark for identification. Question,
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mister Gates, please take all the time you need to
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review the document. Once again, it's not one in which
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you are a participant. Answer it looks like I may
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have had a skype call with him at this time
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question during twenty thirteen? Answer yes. Question do you recall
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the subject of the skype call. Answer, I know in
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twenty thirteen, his representation that he could raise billions or
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tens of billions for global health became a significant subject
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of discussion. Question was there anyone else on the call? Answer?
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I'm not sure. Question, And that call took place during
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a period of time where you still thought that mister
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Epstein might plausibly raise the sums that he was representing
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to you. Answer, that's right through you know, I would
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say September I mistakenly took him at his word. Then
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I became quite skeptical, But through September twenty fourteen, I
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was still hoping that it would that billions would be
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raised for global health. All right, folks, we're going to
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wrap up right here, and in the next episode, we're
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going to pick up where we left off. All the
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