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54. The Long and Winding Road( Bear, Otter, and the Kid Chronicles 4/4) · The Book-Watchers

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Ms suns h. Hello, Hi, I'm currently figuring out what's going on
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with my life? Girls saying girl, Girls, Hi, I'm Devin,
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and girls saying, girls saying, what's life? What's things? What is
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things? What do I want? Yes? All right? Hi? Well
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hello, welcome to book Watchers. Yeah, you know who we are.
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You know who we are. And those of you who don't, well,
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have you been? Yeah? Catchup? Get on our level, shit,
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get on our level. Yeah, and welcome back to today's episode of book
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Watchers. Today will not only be the we're gonna not only be reviewing the
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final installment of Bear Ardor and the Kid series, but this will actually be
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our last recorded episode for the year of twenty twenty three. Well, honestly,
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when this episode comes out, it's gonna be probably twenty twenty four,
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because there are several episodes in the queue before this one. There's like true,
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yeah, but I do future note future Devin take this part out at
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the end, though, I do wanna do like a Christmas, merry Christmas
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thing. We can put on the episode put on for the week for the
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week before Christmas or whatever. I haven't decided which one because I just now
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this past last week was the what episode was that? Last week was the
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Heart. I just finished the Wolf Song the Green Creek series last week,
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so this week I still have the Drifts. Huh? Did you did you
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cry as much as I did when you read the letter the final at the
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end of book four? Oh? I didn't read them, I said,
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I posted the episodes we did for them. Oh, okay, okay,
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never mind. I thought you actually were finished. I want to did you
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did you cry as much as I did? No? Because let me tell
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you something. When I I said this in the episode, but like that
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episode, but when I read that that letter, I cried. I cried.
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It's on my list, but now I'm not gotten it. I just
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posted those episodes, and then I still have the Drifts three books and then
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the fairy Tale. I think next week is going to be fairy Tale,
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and then we'll do then I'll post the Sorry, now this week will be
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fairy Tale, and then the next three weeks will be the Drifts serious.
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And we did those. We did those in February. February. Yeah,
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we recorded them like we recorded them earlier in the year, and you're just
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not posting them. Drifts was in June. But yes, yes, yes,
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it was June. I haven't got I haven't gotten around the post,
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and I kept forgetting about them, and I'm like, I want to save
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them because every time something would come up and we post an episode beforehand,
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and I'm like, I want to post these episodes together. So I haven't
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gotten around doing that. So now they will huh. Yeah, I'm not
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going to lead them again. Oh my god, I told I told them
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the story about the God the Salem's Salem's Lot. I just didn't download it
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and then it got deleted and we're like, we're not talking about it again.
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Well, to be fair, they're not missing much. Yeah. Yeah,
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honestly that book was boring. But yeah, next week will be fairy
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Tale, and then the weeks after that would be the Drifts D and D
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series, and then after that that's when Bear Oder and the Kid will start,
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but that will be in January, so we'll come back to recording.
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Actually, yeah, when we come back to recording in January, the next
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couple of those couple of weeks will probably just be books I've read. We'll
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have a month of me but we'll do some some Christmas thing at the end
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because that'll be the fairy Tale episode. Anyway, continue continue Before we continue
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a little off topic here, Godzilla minus one has officially passed Oppenheimer as a
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high rated blockbuster film of twenty twenty three. Yes, at the time of
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the recording. Yep, oh you're gonna leave this in. You're gonna leave
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us in? Yes? Why not? Why not? A coeave. It's
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part of why not? Yeah, we cool, cool, cool, because
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we stand, we stand Godzilla here we stand. Oh, oh, we
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stand. I mean expect at some point in the new year the book on
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Godzilla and Godzilla raids again, like oh yeah, oh shit, we don't
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have to I mean, yeah, of course, because of course, because
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ladies. At the time it's recording ladies and gentlemen. I'm currently halfway through
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book three of the Wheel of Time. There are fourteen books in this series,
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and I don't like pausing in between. I don't like pausing between books
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to read like a book outside of the series. I just power through them.
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And these books are taking me forever because they're monsters, high fantasies.
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Yeah they're month. They're not that big, okay, well big, but
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they're not that big of a read. But they're high fantasy and high think
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about high fantasy books is that you really have to really like you have to
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get into the mindset of like the way that the the characters in the book
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is written. Yeah, all right, so they're not gonna be there.
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They're not going to be there's not gonna be dialogue in uh, written in
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a way that we would like in a common way that we would understand.
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It's written in a way that makes sense for these characters in the book,
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like the their dialogue, you know, the references. All right, So
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you have to really like get into this mindset of like, Okay, something
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significant happened, like some person like one character in book one mentions like off
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handedly mentioned something like, for example, in book one, the horn of
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there's this this artifact called the Horne of Valier, and the Horne of Valier
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is the centerpiece of book two, but they casually mention it offhand in the
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first book. And I'm like, huh, that's so. So he's planting
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seeds early. Yeah, Oh yeah, dude, there's there are like seeds
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of what's gonna happen late like like ten books down the line, being referenced
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in book one and two already, and he's not joking that that there is
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like fourteen books long. Hello. The main character Rand supposed to have three
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wives, but he but that doesn't get revealed until like later, later,
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later, later, but one character has the ability to see the future,
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and she's like, huh, you're gonna have three wives? Oh god,
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well she don't. She doesn't tell him specifically, she tells one of his
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future wives. He's she's she's like, huh, you're gonna end up sharing
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Rand with two other people and and she's like and she's like, nah,
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bitch nah. But yeah, he's working on that. I'm working on a
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bunch of little books because uh, when we come obviously when the record,
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when this recording goes up, they've already been done probably, but hopefully I'll
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be done by it. I'll be done with that just this one book three,
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but oh I hope so, but I'll be doing a bunch of books.
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It's gonna probably take me months to read the whole series, because it
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took me like the better part of a month to read the first two.
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I'm not a fast reader, so don't come at me. Damn. And
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my eyes got into audiobooks, so y'all best be ready. I got some
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books to talk about soon, and I also want to get into the freaking
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oh God I have. I have the Chronicles of Narnia, and the audiobook
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is like it comes to a pack of all seven of them, and I'm
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like, so I get at some point I'm gonna talk about the Chronicles of
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Narnia that series there A Yeah, that's right, that's right, because there's
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like a like there's before the Chronicles and before The Lion, the Witch and
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the Wardrobe. There's a book before that one. So the so the Lion,
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the Witch and the Wardrobe isn't the actual first Yeah, and the story
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there's another one, and that's actually talks about the origin of the White Witch
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and how she came to Narnia and how even Narnia was created by Aslain.
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Yeah. And then after the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, there
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was a book in between The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe and Prince
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Caspian. Yeah, which that one is more of like like I felt like
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that that one was more of like a sidebook because it wasn't it wasn't even
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a mate dealing with one of the main characters. I was just talking about
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like some of the stuff that went on that happened while uh, the those
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four kids were Narnia and ruling over everything. Mm hmm. And then after
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Prince Caspian, there was another book with just Caspian, uh, and I
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think, like, uh, Casian, I think it was just going to
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be Caspian, and I think, uh, the two youngest kids come back
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to Narnia one more time, and then there's Voyage at the Dawn Treader,
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and then after that there's another another book. Honestly, I read those books
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so long ago I can't I can't remember anymore. And then there's the very
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last one that Fox with people still to this day we who spoiler alert all
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of them all but one one does not die. I might cut this part.
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Susan doesn't die. She's not there. Yeah, oh I think she
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did die. Mm hmm. I thought no, No, she was the
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only one that was not there. Everyone else died, and well she dies.
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She will eventually show up because like, basically, because the whole thing
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about the Chronicles of Narnia is that it's like an allegory of like it's an
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allegory for the Bible, things like you know, the creation of the world.
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Coming up, Messiah all these different things, and then at the very
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end we're talking about armageddon, but it's not like as violent or as vicious
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as it was and like as it is in the Bible, but it kind
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of talks it really references like how like it's supposed to be in the Bible,
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like whenever, like the rapture and things like that, and uh,
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you know how everybody in Narnia except for like some dwarfs go to basically go
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to heaven and yeah, yeah, so yeah, but we're not here to
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talk about We're not here to talk about that book, at least not yet.
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We will, we will eventually, but for right now, we are
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going to be talking about the final book and the Bear Otter and the Kid
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series. This is called The Long, the Long and Winding Road. So
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I'll be totally honest with you guys. The reason why de Devin enough.
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Usually we we we fuck around, yeah, in a lot of episodes,
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but this one I kind of I did a little bit more because this book
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is actually we're I'm probably gonna end up skimming through the first half of the
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book because the first half of the book is literally more of a recap from
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Bear's perspective, on what happened during the events of the previous book because of
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the previous book, Who We Are, that was from the perspective of his
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younger I'm sorry, the not Who We Are, that's book too, uh,
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The Art of Breathing. Book three, The Art of Breathing was from
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the perspective of his younger brother, Tyson McKenna or the kid, yeah talking,
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And it was that focus on his struggles like his own. It was
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his own coming of age story, focused on his struggles with drug addiction,
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him coming to terms with his affections for his older best friend Dominic, and
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how they how their relationship begins. Well, this book, The Long Winding
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Road, is pretty much like it's it's a closer. This is definitely this
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book was definitely written to be like a closing statement. It's closing out everything.
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There's a lot of time skips and you know, it just it's also
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showing how Bear and Otter Uh are really beginning to start their lives together because
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now that the kid is out of the house, they're finally able to start
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making decisions for themselves because a lot of a lot well they've always made decisions.
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I'm sorry. They may phrase that they've always made decisions for themselves.
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But the thing is is that they had to really live their lives with the
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kid as their focus. They had to make sure they did everything they could
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to make sure their kid had a good home because you know, of course,
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first when this whole story started, it was about making sure that Bear
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got legal custody of kid, made sure and then also later made they were
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focused on getting the kid to help, the psychological help he needed, getting
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weaned off of his drug addiction, and making sure he's set for college.
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And he did everything. He did all of that, and now in this
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book, the kid, while he still struggles with his own personal stuff,
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he's now doing. He's in a much better place. He is living.
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He is in the process of dating Dominic. And let me tell you something
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about Dominic. Dominic is cute. He's cute as fuck. Because kids immediately
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set some boundaries with dom He still wanted to live at home with Bear and
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Otter. Uh. He wanted because he wanted to work on building their relationship
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first before they move to the next step and like move in together. But
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the thing is, dom he's already ready. He's already ready. He's like
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he knows what he wants. He wants the kid to move in with him.
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Right, So while the kid is still making up his mind and still
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wanting to work on the relationship, Dom is like sneakily like taking stuff from
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the kid's room and move and moving it to his mouse. So like little
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things at first, right, like little things he want that the kid wouldn't
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miss or really wouldn't notice that they're gone. But then it escalated. It
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got to the point where Bear caught Dom trying to move the kid's desk out
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of his house and into his own house, which was hilarious, which I
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thought was hilarious, Like, sir, you're a police officer, but you're
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like, I mean, it's not theft really because kid practically lives at Dom's
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house at that point. Yeah, but yeah, he knew what he wants.
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He knows what he wants. But so, as I said, this
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is the first half of the book is from is retelling the story from book
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three from Bear's perspective, him discovering the kid's drug addiction and him in honor
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really cracking down the kid confiscating all of the like any kind of pills that
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they could find from him. Basically putting him on lockdown, making sure he
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goes to see his therapist more regularly, leaning him off, leaning him off
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the drugs, and trying to help him get back to the place he needs
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to be in order to succeed in school. And even like some of the
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things that Baron and Otter fucked up on, like since the kid at the
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time had cut out Dominic because he couldn't really handle the fact that Dom was
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married and was basically living his life without the kid he cut he basically cut
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uh Dom off. But bear in honor, they kept in contact with Dom
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because they still cared about Dom and they still thought of him as family,
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and they knew that Dom had had a kid, but they they held off
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on telling, on telling the kid just because he was in a very fragile
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mental state at the time. But then then and then then time came for
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them to go back to Green Creek, I'm sorry, not Green Creek,
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Seafair there, go back to Seafair, And when they get there, they
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totally forgot to mention the kid, like, oh, yeah, by the
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way, your best friend, your bff forever has a kid. Now,
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Oh so he got the kid finds so the kid finds out, and while
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he takes it, he actually takes that very very well. He he's shocked,
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of course to find out that his best friend has a kid now,
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but he was really mad at Bear. So Bear had to really like not
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only work on earning the kid's forgiveness, but also he had to give the
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kid a reality check too. Yeah, because the thing is is that while
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much of their lives had revolved around the kid to ensure his well being and
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everything, now that the kid is an adult, it's time for Bear and
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Order to live their life. And kid was more or less upset when he
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found out that Bear and Otter were making plans without him, without his without
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really talking to him about what they're gonna do for their futures and everything like
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that. And Bear had to really put it like put it to him straight.
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Listen, we love you, We're always gonna be there, but it's
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time for Bear, It's time for Honor and me to live our lives.
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We've done our part. We made sure that you, we made sure that
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you were taken care of, and we did Yeah, there was there.
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It was a bumpy road, but we got there and now it's time for
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us to live our lives and the biggest decision they made was that the two
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of them had decided that they wanted kids. Now, Honor knew from the
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beginning he wanted kids, but Bear he wasn't really ready for that. And
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for the better part of like they're at this point, they've been together for
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like about ten years now, mm, Bear was really like juggling with that
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decision and then finally decides, let's do it. But the thing is,
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even though he made the decision, we're gonna do it together, like we're
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gonna have We're gonna we're gonna work on figuring out how we're gonna have kids.
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Because Otter had already thought it out and he got he put together a
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portfolio, if you will, basically like different options for their conception, so
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they could either go through a they could either adopt, or they could use
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currocate surrogate, and Otter had even done some research on a surrogacy program.
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There were several options they could go for, like one was although they both
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really wanted to do it. One option was basically it's a program where they
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take the sperm of both both partners in the relationship and mix them together and
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when they put and when they uh implanted in a surrogate, it'll basically conceive
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a child that is both biologically there's right, but unfortunately that is expensive as
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fuck. Yeah, stupidly, that is stupidly expensive. And while Otter is
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really well off, he actually makes a lot. He does really well for
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himself, and he makes a lot of money. He doesn't he's not that
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rich, just say that. So they decided that they were just going to
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go for the basic option, which is just just do a standard surrogacy using
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the sperm of one partner instead, and Otter insisted that Bear be the one
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two uh donate his sperm so they can have for the kid. M hm.
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So they actually do go through the They do go through the process.
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They find a surrogate, really nice woman. She does. She has regularly
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uh surrogated for several different couples, same sex couples because she she genuinely enjoys
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carrying their children so they can find so they can have their little bit of
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happiness, right, which I think is great. But she has a hippie
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boyfriend who's kind of weird. I'm not gonna really get talked about him that
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much because I like it's kind of her boyfriend's kind of weird and he and
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I mean he's he's a cool dude, all right. He's very supportive of
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his girlfriend and her lifestyle, right donating her uh her uterus to to surrogate
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children for the same sex couples. But like he kind of gets he kind
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of gets a little too much enjoyment out of it, we'll just say that,
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which kind of freaks which kind of freaks bear out a bit. But
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they realize that this that they choose has a lot of the qualities that they
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would like because basically she's going to be the mother like this, it's that
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kind of surrogacy. It's not like they just get a donor egg and just
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put it in her. Like she's actually donating her own eggs for the surrogacy
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as well. So yeah, so the process of them choosing a surrogate,
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they want to make sure that, like the surrogate is somebody that they will
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like, somebody that they think can be a right fit for them. And
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they girl that they choose squoozy momentove do contents. H let's see, sorry,
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let me get her name there, You're fine. They actually attend one
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of those classes with her uh, a tray to day Megan. Mm hmm.
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So the circuit. So the circuit they find to carry their kid.
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It's a girl named Megan. She's really nice. If anything, her personality
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is very similar to Bears, which is kind of why they chose her.
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But she has very but instead of the same kind of overthinking neuroticism that Bear
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has, she is very down to earth and really they really connected when they
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interviewed her, so they decided where to go with her. And basically,
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at this point of the story, we're already more than a little bit more
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than halfway into the book. We're pretty much caught up to the to where
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it left off in book three. So now as it starts getting now,
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the story starts taking place more in the present. So so this is where
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it basically the real story begins. They're having a normal day ty spending time
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with Dominic. It's just Otter and Bear at the house. They were gonna
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go. They were planning on going to a doctor's appointment with their surrogate,
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Meghan, but they decided not to because they had other things they were going
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to be doing. And is at this point they get a knock on the
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door and the phone rings. Bear answers the door and Otter answers the phone,
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and these these two things really kind of freaked Bear out because the person
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standing at the door is none other than his younger sister that he had never
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met before, Isabelle McKenna, and she had she had made it all the
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way to Oregon from Idaho. I think, yeah, Idaho, it's a
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state right next to It's a state right next to Oregon, right right.
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So Isabelle tells Bear that their mother had unfortunately, well in Bear's case,
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fortunately passed away, and rather than wait around for CPS too a claim her
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and put her and take her into their care. As soon as she found
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out her mom died, she Isabelle packed up and just dipped. She bought
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the bus ticket to Seafair. She didn't exactly know the She actually she did
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know their address because the kid gave Isabelle their address and contact information from in
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the previous book. She didn't she lost their contact info when and her mother
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threw away the threw away the contact contact info, but Isabelle had already memorized
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their address and where to go, so she made it to Seafair. She
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hiked around a bit and she found the house. She knew it was that,
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and she knew she had the right house because Tyson had had described what
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the house looked like and what they had named it, the Green Monstrosity,
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basically the most gaudiest color of green. The house has painted a really gaudy
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shade of green. Oh and uh. She shows up. She tells Barry
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everything, and Bear's freaking out because now, like, of course he's not
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now he has his little sister to deal with. And just behind him on
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the phone, Otters kind of starting to freak out too, because the person
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on the phone is their surrogate, Megan. And while she's doing okay,
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she tells them that they are having twins. Oh yep, they super one,
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a two for one. Yeah. So for the rest of the book
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they start making these jokes, these real these jokes about Bear having super sperm.
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Oh my god, m not the super sperm, because it resultsed in
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in a twin pregnancy. So now they got Now they got not one,
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not two, but three kids to look after now, including Isabelle, who
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is about thirteen years old. Now, oh god, yep, so they
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immediately take Isabelle in. Bear contacts the chop protective Services to inform them that
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his sister has arrived at their doorstep because they had already became aware of her
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disappearance canceled. He had to speak to the local authorities that in the town
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that his mom lived and passed away in. Since he is the nective,
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he is the oldest next of kin, they basically put it on him to
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settle all over affairs. Uh. He had to go to Idaho to her
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home. He took bringing Izzy along with him so that way they can pack
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up any stuff she left behind so they could take it take it back to
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Sea Fair. He also had to basically get rid of all of his mother's
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stuff he had. Bear had no interest in keeping anything from his mom.
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Mm hmmm. As it's been well established since book one, Bear has no
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real love for his mother after she had put him through. If anything,
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none of the Mechanic kids have any real love had any real love for their
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mother all Uh, Bear and Isabel had to deal well, all three of
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them had to deal with neglect from their mom. They grew up in a
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household, they grew up, They all grew up with their alcoholic mother.
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She never she never did anything more than the bare minimum, they always felt
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like their life was not going anywhere. And in Bear's case, he his
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entire life was put on hold because his mom abandoned him and his brother and
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forcing Bar to take care of his younger brother. Yeah, and while Bear
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never blamed Tyson for that, he'd still he held a lot of resentment for
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his mom for putting that on him. And then, of course, while
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Bear dealt with a little bit of with some abandonment problems, Tyson was the
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one that ended up dealing it with it more because while Bear was already an
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adult when their mother abandoned them, Tyson was still just a little kid.
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He was about six years old, like five six years old when it happened,
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and this caused him to develop severe trust and abandonment problems, which also
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which also eventually developed into his into a full blown panic disorder, which led
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to his drug addiction as well. Well. I wouldn't say led to it,
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but what also contributed to what led him to his to his drug addiction.
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And then, in Isabel's case, I think Isabel got off easy.
32:23
While she still suffered from the same kind of neglect that her older brothers did,
32:29
her mom never abandoned her and never did anything any of the stuff that
32:34
Bear and Tyson had to deal with. But in the end, her mom
32:38
died and she was left alone. But the three of them they felt some
32:44
measure of relief because now they are finally free of their mom. They didn't
32:52
plan any they didn't do anything more for her in terms of burial. Bear
33:00
didn't even pay for like a funeral service. The state just simply cremated her
33:05
bodies and he just claimed he just claimed her remains. Ah And after closing
33:12
closing up her house, making sure to settle all of our affairs and don't
33:15
and selling and donating any for possessions, they went back to Seafair and uh,
33:22
they disposed of her remains on a off of a cliff far from this
33:29
small stretch of beach that the that their families claimed as their own. They
33:32
didn't want her ashes to be spread on such a special place because they spread
33:38
the ashes of their surrogate mother. Yeah, oh my god, what was
33:49
her name, missus Paquin. Yeah, so a little stretch of beach on
34:00
that they have used. This where Baron Otter had their first real date,
34:07
which kind of ended in a disaster because the seagull destroyed their table setting setting
34:10
it on fire, and then they got rained on many Yeah, they also
34:15
had many special events there, like Baron Otter got married on that stretch of
34:20
beach. And when missus Pack went passed away, she was cremated and they
34:23
spread her remains over that little stretch of beach. And but they didn't want
34:29
to do the same thing for their mother, so they found a cliff far
34:34
from that beach and they just tossed her ashes over the edge. And that
34:38
was that damn like bye bitch, I mean TV fair she had. Yeah,
34:47
she didn't deserve anything. She didn't deserve anything from any of her kids.
34:52
While she was never like I said before, Jolie McKenna was never abusive
34:59
like physically antally or like physically or verbally, but the fact that she was
35:05
an alcoholic and she never did anything more than the bare minimum for her kids,
35:08
she still neglected them. And neglect is a form of abuse, Yes
35:14
it is. And in Bear and and Bear and the kids case, she
35:19
abandoned them. So she gets she deserves nothing more from her kids. They,
35:27
if anything, they did exactly what she did for them, and they
35:30
gave her. Yeah, So for the rest of the book. This is
35:35
talk. It just comes to it's just really like I said, it's just
35:38
the it's closing out of the story bear in Otnor preparing for the arrival of
35:44
their twins, they decided to wait on They decided to wait on the revelation
35:52
of the gender of their other babies. Yeah, and they had to basically
36:00
completely redo their baby room. They converted uh Tyson. Well, actually,
36:04
I'm sorry they had They had a fair room that they had already. Uh,
36:09
they had already set up for their bit for the arrival of their well
36:13
singular baby, but now they had to redo it for their now two babies
36:16
coming in. Izzy ends up taking Tyson's old room, turns it into her
36:23
own, and bears amazed at how similar Izzy is to uh Tyson, while
36:31
at the same time being very similar to him. Where Tyson is like a
36:37
vegan is a vegetarian, I want, I don't want to say vegan,
36:39
but is a vegetarian and a staunch animal rights activist. Uh, she is
36:46
quite the opposite. She's very smart, and she's very into things like bugs
36:52
and insects and entomology. But she but she is not a vegetarian of anything.
36:58
She kind of like She jokes her around with Bear about that too,
37:00
and Bears like, oh my god, where have you been my whole life?
37:04
Mh. But as uh as they as they patiently await the arrival of
37:15
their kids, they attend a few classes with their with their surrogate, uh
37:21
what else? Classes called Uh it's where they like you know, learned the
37:24
breathing exercises, those one those youre talking about, these classes that pregnant women
37:34
take before they get birth. Yeah, yep, I don't know what they're
37:37
called, but I know what you mean. Yeah. They they regularly spend
37:44
time with their surrogate and her boyfriend, and as they're waiting for their babies
37:49
to you know, arrive, Bear is becoming utterly charmed by Otter because Otter
37:55
is starting to turn into this emotional mess because he he's very excited for their
38:01
for their baby, for their babies, right, but he's also really nervous
38:06
too. He's just like, but what if they don't like me? Like,
38:10
you know, like I just want to be a good dad. And
38:15
because Honor is usually the confident and self assured one, while Bear is the
38:19
emotional mess. Yeah, and Bear's over here like wait, what's going on?
38:25
Hold? Up because Bear is like he's under he is freaking out more
38:29
or less. He's like he's over here, like understandably nervous about his kid's
38:35
arrival, but at the same time he's looking at Honor and he's like what
38:38
the fuck? Yeah, but uh. And aside from that, they also
38:45
have to, like I was saying earlier, they had to work with Child
38:47
Protective Services because they have to make sure they legally get a guardianship over is
38:55
he, which at this point it's not a It wasn't as much of an
39:00
ordeal as it was with Tyson. Since Bear is also registered as a foster.
39:07
Bear and Otter registered as a foster care as foster parents, they were
39:12
able to take her in and they were able to immediately take her in,
39:15
so child CPS didn't come in and be like, no, we got to
39:17
put put her with a foster family before you guys take a guardianship over her.
39:25
Because they're and CPS considering that they already have files on Bear and Otter,
39:31
you know, and they already know like their record is clean and is
39:34
good, they immediately put her in, put her in their care, and
39:38
they quickly get guardianship over her, so her life is getting so much better
39:44
now. Eventually, there the day arrives where the two welcome their babies into
39:53
the world. They get the call that their surrogate has gone into labor and
39:59
they meet. They immediately head to the hospital. They make sure that she's
40:04
okay. It does take a little over fourteen hours for her to finally give
40:07
birth to the kids. While they're waiting, the rest of their extended family
40:13
show up. Otter's parents, their best friend Create, their best friends Creed
40:19
an Otter. Well, Creed is I'm sorry Creed his Otter's younger brother,
40:22
and Bear's best friend, and also their other best friends Anna, who is
40:29
Creed's wife, And it's hilarious. There's a very cute and also hilarious moment
40:37
because while they're waiting, Bear becomes I'm sorry, not Bear. Otter becomes
40:42
such an emotional mess that he actually starts bawling his eyes out, and Bear
40:45
is standing there like, wait, what, how am I the calm one
40:49
in this situation? And Otter Otter's dat reveals that all of the Thompson men
41:01
cry the birth of their of their first kids. M hm, so like
41:07
when uh Creed had his first kid JJ. He also cried. And then
41:13
when they're uh Otter's dad at Otter, he cried his eyes out. And
41:20
it's funny because there's a moment where all the all of their spouses are just
41:22
like looking at the Thompson men, like these manly motherfuckers are crying their eyes
41:29
out right now, Like they're not the ones doing the work. They're not
41:34
the ones, you know, pushing a baby out of them. But either
41:39
way, it was cute and it was like for Bear, it was like,
41:43
wow, this is a how the turns have tabled? How the tabled?
41:49
Because normally bears the emotional wreck and now and now here's Otter turning into
41:55
such an emotional wreck too, and bears are like, pull yourself together.
42:00
You're supposed to be the strong one. Mm hmmm, yeah yeah. But
42:07
they do finally welcome their too, their twin babies into the world. They
42:16
see here, they welcome in a baby boy and a baby girl. Uh
42:28
uh me yeah, let me see here, let me see here, let
42:35
me see here, let me get their names. Let me get their names.
42:49
Let's see here. What are their kids names? Because they all right,
43:16
so they ended up naming their their boy noah. Yeah, and let
43:27
me see Noah and his sister Lily, so they welcomed in their twin babies,
43:45
Noah and Lily Thompson. And I'm sorry, I don't think I mentioned
43:51
this before, but when Baron Otter got married, Bart took on uh Otter's
43:57
family named Thompson, So he's no longer Bear, Uh Derek McKenna, he
44:00
is Derek Thompson. And they, of course their kids have Otter's surname,
44:09
Thompson's surname. And basically the story is gonna start wrapping up. There's a
44:15
few time skips after the birth of the kids, like where there's gonna be
44:19
about a five year time skip into the future, about a five year time
44:23
skip the kids, uh, the Thompson family, Bear, Otter, Noah,
44:32
Lily and Izzy are all getting ready for a wedding, and this wedding
44:36
is actually the wedding of Tyson and Dominic. Mm hmm, so they're all
44:44
attending. There's a little cute, little hilarious scene where the where Bear and
44:51
Otter walk in on their twins playing doctor. Oh my god, not that
44:58
kind. It's more of like Lily is trying to get I performed surgery on
45:05
Noah. Now, Noah Noah's personality is clearly the more reserved and quiet,
45:13
introverted type, while Lily is the one that is the troublemaker. And well,
45:19
of course, Noah loves his sister and always wants to be around and
45:25
follow his sister around, always goes along with whatever hair brain scheme his sister
45:30
comes up with. So his sister says, I want to perform surgery on
45:34
you. Noah's like, okay, so uh huh. So there's a nice
45:43
little scene two of them. They're all getting ready for the wedding and they
45:46
go to attend Tyson and Dominic's wedding. Dominic has his son Ben as his
45:53
best man, and by this point Ben is like, let's see, I
46:00
think the kid. Noah and Lily are about Noah and Lily are about four
46:07
or five years old at this point, so and in the events of the
46:12
art Breathing, Ben was about three two or three, so he's about so
46:16
he's about seven years old now. And yeah, so those two have those
46:22
two finally get married. And after this little scene, there is another time
46:25
skip. This is the epilogue and the closing of the story. Now it
46:30
is about ten, like somewhere between ten and twelve years later. And this
46:36
is this part got me a little fucked up because like in the epilogue,
46:40
Bear is now fifty years old and Otter is close to sixty, and the
46:46
kids are now the kids are now teenagers, about sixteen years old. And
46:52
it's a cute little scene because Otter is having a conversation with Lily and no
47:00
and they're trying to tell him something and they're very nervous about it, and
47:04
but they wanted to tell him first because they know how if they don't approach
47:08
Bear about this subject right, then the Bear may freak out, not in
47:16
a bad way, but in the not in a bad way, but more
47:20
that like he is like his nerves can't handle it kind of way. Yeah.
47:25
Yeah, So Noah comes out as gay basically, and oh, it's
47:32
one of the it's it's one of those moments where like it's like, oh
47:37
is that it? Like all Otter is over here, like, oh,
47:42
well that's okay, Bud, we already knew who but it. But Noah
47:50
kind of outs himself further by saying by hinting that he's sexually active too,
47:54
and and Otner is like, excuse me, nothing, nothing like you know
48:00
those things that like teenagers do where they're just like trying to talk to their
48:05
parents about something and then they accidentally out themselves on doing something you know they
48:07
shouldn't. Yeah, exactly, mm hmm. And yeah, this is pretty
48:15
much where the book ends. I know, I didn't really go into too
48:16
much detail with this book. That's mainly because most of it was just like
48:22
a, like I said, a recap summary of what happened in the Art
48:27
of Breathing. But from Bear's perspective, there's a few extra scenes that I
48:31
didn't really talk about. Like there's a there's a hilarious interaction between Bear and
48:37
Creed since the two of them they're still best friends. Creed has two kids
48:42
now, JJ and AJ. Yeah, there's a theme of names going on
48:47
here, JJ being the oldest, and he's also a troublemaker too, because
48:53
it's funny he gets into everything. But Creed he has he has the dad
48:57
thing down, so like he has this whole parenting thing down. So like
49:00
while he's having a conversation with Bear, he'll suddenly stop and just call out,
49:06
JJ, put that fork, pull pull that fork away from that power
49:09
stock at this instant and but from behind him, you can hear JJ going
49:14
oh man? And Bear's like, oh my god, I didn't even Bear's
49:20
like, you didn't even look at him. How did you know he was
49:22
doing that? And Creed is over You're like, it's a dad thing.
49:30
Oh lord, yeah, Creed is that kind of cool? Is that he's
49:35
taken to the role of dad very well, Like he's a total dad.
49:40
I'm not talking daddy. I mean, no, he's a dad. He's
49:44
just a dad mm hmm. And there was a fun There was a hilarious
49:50
scene where Bear and Otter, trying to spice up their sex life, try
49:53
to do some role playing at a hotel, which fails spectacularly, as these
50:00
things do. Yeah, but other than that, that's pretty much it for
50:06
the final installment of The Long and Winding Road, And I think it it
50:14
was definitely it was a cute ending. It got me fucked The ending got
50:17
me fucked up because it's like, of course there's this big time skip.
50:21
Now Otter and Creed are I'm sorry not Creed. Otter and Bear are well
50:28
into their fifties now, and I'm just like, oh god, oh I
50:32
can't fifties, can't oof oof. I don't even think I'll be alive,
50:40
but I don't think I'll live to see my fifties without stressed out. I
50:44
am, well, you know what, they studies say that people who have
50:50
anxiety tend to live longer. And I'm like, oh, you fucking whos
50:57
are you? Tell? Are you because of how? Like? Because of
51:00
how of my anxiety? I'm going to live longer. I want to live
51:07
to like I'm a hundred. I want to be an old as dirt,
51:13
And I go, that's what I want to do. I want to be
51:15
old as dirt. I'll want me the crazy old the crazy grandpa that just
51:22
says, ship out of pocket. I just want to be that dude that
51:24
they experiments that they experiment a like anti aging formula on but turns out to
51:30
work out too well, so I don't age at all. So like I'll
51:35
be in my nineties, I'll be in my nineties and I'll still look like
51:37
I'm in my thirties. Girl, if you ever become a vampire, you
51:42
better fucking tell me better. At least offer me a turtle life. God
51:46
damn it, like that TikTok dude, I'm probably gonna be like Louie Louis.
51:54
If if I ever become a vampire, I'm probably gonna turn into like
51:58
a vampire like Louis from the Interview with a Vampire, all depressed and like,
52:05
is this what you want to become? Fut food for the Amostals,
52:10
all depressed and ship Oh my god, drama. Honestly, I'll tell you,
52:15
I'll tell you this. I could not finish that book because Louis was
52:19
so fucking depressing. Ah see, I know. I would probably be more
52:23
like the stat Oh god, how fucking dancing around with a corpse, like
52:32
there's still life in this one yet? Oh god, the dramatic, the
52:37
camp mm hmmm. I mean, honestly, if you're if you're immortal and
52:43
you can live for like, if you're gonna live for eternity, all right,
52:46
what's the what's the point of not like being chaotic and funny like that?
52:51
Huh? I mean that's true, be camp because what else you got
52:53
to left? Right? Uh? Huh? Like what else? You you?
53:00
Right? You right? But anyway, that is it for this story.
53:08
Yeah, Bear the bear Honor in the Kids series for me was definitely
53:13
more. It was a refreshing story because I typically read mostly science fiction and
53:19
fantasy mm hmm, and fiction as well. You know, it's weird,
53:24
Like, okay, I can't really count, Like even if I even in
53:29
the fiction category, it still falls into the science fiction because like if you
53:31
read if you read Stephen King novels, they're technically like if you go to
53:36
Barnes and Noble, the Stephen King shit used to be filed under fiction,
53:39
but then they moved it to horror. Yeah yeah. And then also there
53:45
were several other fiction novels like like this independent writer Jeremy Robinson, like his
53:54
Project Nemesis series and a few other series were often categorized under but they would
54:00
probably fit better under the science fiction shit. And there's another author I read
54:07
named Steve Alton. He wrote the Meg series. Yeah, you've seen the
54:12
movie The Meg. Those movies were based off of his books. Yeah,
54:15
all right, the books were better. I'm telling you that right now.
54:20
I like the movies. Don't listen to him. They're fun, they're stupid,
54:22
and they're great. And then he's made like they made like ten million
54:27
books, you know, damn well, they're gonna make like ten million movies
54:30
of each book. I haven't even seen the second one, and I'm not
54:34
interested in seeing Oh, the second one is so camp. It's so stupid,
54:38
but like it's fun stupid. Well, see, that's that's the thing.
54:43
You and I hate camp and you love it. I do, I
54:46
live, I live, you live for the camp. Like it's so stupid,
54:53
Like you know, it's stupid, but it's a fun movie to watch
54:57
because it's stupid. And what's better than watching people can name by a shark
55:02
a bitch could's eating whole devoured whole wool? Uh, it's so great,
55:08
it's so great. I love these stuff in the movie. What is better
55:13
than? What is better than seeing a shark eat people? Seeing a giant
55:16
monster eat people? What you do see in the Project Nemesis series. Believe
55:23
you haven't had about those books yet for that book movie, well, because
55:30
there wasn't a movie about it. But now that you say it says we're
55:32
not. Since I can't I can't say that, I can't say. We
55:36
don't have an excuse anymore. Yeah, we don't, Okay, coming up
55:42
coming up in the new year, Project Nemesis by Jeremy Robbins, I swear
55:45
in twenty twenty four, we should have a whole month a month of monster
55:50
books. Yeah, my God, we'll definitely review the Godzilla God's will raise
55:57
again His little raised rage again was probably the worst gods of the movie,
56:04
next like next to the uh, next to fucking Matthew Rogercks nineteen ninety eight.
56:15
Godzilla. Oh oh oh bitch. They have that movie on Hulu and
56:22
I want to do an episode of it on Spook and I'm gonna have you
56:25
on there, so I'm gonna force you to watch it with me. Prepare
56:30
yourself. It's gonna happen sometime next year. Oh my god, I'm pretty
56:36
sure you're gonna have Dakota on there, and he's just gonna be teasing me
56:38
the whole time. Dakota, I could. I could have Dakota on that
56:45
episode because he does love that movie, doesn't he He does, well,
56:51
I don't even think he does. He just he just jokes about it because
56:53
he knows it triggers me. Oh my god. Yeah, I'm working on
56:59
the calendar at some point. Godzilla nineteen ninety eight, Try Star and then
57:08
it's just it's not that bad of a movie. From what I remember as
57:13
a child, It's not that bad of a movie. Okay, So I'll
57:16
give you this if you just take it as it is, exclude it from
57:20
the whole Godzilla franchise, and it's not terrible, but the fact that is
57:25
marketed as Godzilla, yeah it Trystar bought the rights to Godzilla. Yeah,
57:32
just so they can make this movie and then we and this is what they
57:36
gave us. It wasn't even that bad of a Godzilla film. It's just
57:42
it's Godzilla. It's Godzilla, though, what do you mean? It's not
57:45
even Gozilla. It is a giant irradiated iguana. Isn't Godzilla? Is Godzilla
57:52
nothing more than a giant radiated lizard. Godzilla is an extremeophile, right,
58:00
an extreme of what extremophile? A life form that evolved under extreme conditions,
58:07
all right, that can survive in extreme conditions. This Godzilla can't even take
58:13
can't even take a fucking missile to the face without dying. And don't get
58:17
me started on his atomic breath. You leave her, you leave her alone.
58:23
She's doing her best, She is doing her Zilla is doing her best.
58:30
Her best is not enough. Stand with Zilla, stand with Zilla.
58:42
Don't stand Withzilla. Don't stand with Zilla. They literally bought the telescope,
58:47
literally got the rights to that Godzilla. They can kill it off in their
58:52
own movie. They were like, Okay, you know what, we'll just
58:54
we're gonna just take this back, and they put it in Godzilla Final Wars
58:59
for God's Aletta kill and Godzilla killed killed Zilla in like two seconds. Crime
59:07
crime. No, that was justice right there. What was the real crime
59:15
was how poorly done that movie that this version of Godzilla was. And Toboscope
59:22
was like, all right, we're gonna put you on trial and the verdict
59:25
is death by execution by Godzilla, the real Godzilla. Oh my god.
59:34
I mean to be fair Godzilla, I mean I can go into a whole
59:38
round how to Hoo's Godzilla over the years is nothing more than I can't be
59:44
ass mess. But this is not their podcast for that, And I feel
59:49
like I did. Let me tell you ulous, this is not the podcast
59:58
for this. Let me tell you something, man, it will be.
1:00:00
It will be when we get to the Godzilla book. We could talk about
1:00:04
uh huh yeah online they're good movies and they're bad movies, all right,
1:00:08
Like I just said, Yeah, Godzilla Raids Again was not my favorite because
1:00:13
every time I watch it, I just like zone out because it was so
1:00:16
boring and uninterested and uninteresting but then later on, you know, they get
1:00:23
some real you have some really good ones. I mean some of the bad
1:00:25
ones I can list off right now, Like Godzilla's Revenge is that one that
1:00:32
they made with children in mind where it's like that kid with Milla. Yeah,
1:00:38
and Godzilla fights that uh, that really stupid campy monster Gabberra. Yeah,
1:00:46
so that one was really dumb. Uh. Let me see Godzilla versus
1:00:52
Hetera. That one actually was considered one of the better ones, surprisingly,
1:00:58
But let me tell you something. That was a trip. You watched that
1:01:00
movie and you feel like you're on a You're having like some sort of acid
1:01:04
trip. God's that's also the one where we get where Godzilla flies. Yeah,
1:01:14
this is atomic breath and everything to propel himself through the air. And
1:01:22
then Godzilla versus Megalon, which wasn't was more of like a production mess because
1:01:28
they used a lot of stock footage from previous movies that they re edited and
1:01:31
touched up for this movie. Ew Like Power Rangers mm hmmm, which is
1:01:38
something I will give Netflix on Power Rangers. I know that we're on a
1:01:42
tangent, but since Netflix is redoing Power Rangers, they're actually not gonna use
1:01:47
any more footage from the Sinai Super Sentai series actually going away from the traditional
1:01:54
formula and they're actually gonna do everything from scratch, And I'm like, there
1:01:59
we go, there we go progress, Because if you didn't know Power Rangers,
1:02:07
a lot of the time we're using Japanese footage for their stuff, at
1:02:10
least the older seasons of the Americans. So anyway you didn't know that,
1:02:16
no, I stopped watching. When you watch money more from Power Rangers,
1:02:21
the Yellow Rangers a female, and the American one it's a female, and
1:02:25
the male in the Japanese one it's a male. So if you look at
1:02:29
the costume during the fight scenes, you will obviously know it's a male,
1:02:32
not a female. Let's put it that way. I think I do remember
1:02:37
stuff like that because something like that. There was a show I was watching
1:02:40
where like every time like a fe obviously very female character would transform, they
1:02:45
would turn into a very male looking character. Yeah, and I'm always and
1:02:52
it's kind of I mean, but yeah, No, the Yellow Ranger was
1:02:55
a male in the Japanese Hey series that they took from from the Rite Morphine.
1:03:01
It's weird anyway, cool, Yeah, this book mating series go read
1:03:07
it, or go listen to it because you know audible queen over here,
1:03:10
you know, we do not discriminate against audio listeners of audiobooks because I listened
1:03:16
to audiobooks. Shut up, you know, I've listened to three books and
1:03:23
lets in less than two weeks. What have you done? What have you
1:03:27
done? Read an actual book? Yeah? And how long is that taking
1:03:32
you, sir? Let me see, Well, it's been two weeks and
1:03:38
I'm already halfway through it. So well, then again, I haven't had
1:03:42
a lot of time to read it. If I had time, I would
1:03:44
just sit Like today, I'm probably just gonna sit down and read it for
1:03:47
the rest of the Yeah. If not that, I'll probably just be sitting
1:03:52
down reading the God's Little Book you gave me. Well, that's true,
1:03:55
that's true, that too. Probably clean. I'm probably gonna be cleaning up
1:03:59
the house a bit too. You know. I'm probably I'm gonna say the
1:04:00
cleaning for later in a minute, like cleaning late looks fucking weirdow Anyway,
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they guys listening today's episode catches. Next time I have to talk about something
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else, talk about another book, it'll probably be me talking about something.
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But yeah, yeah, and I'll be taking a break. Yay yay,
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Bye bye mh.