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Brett Keane /w Theist Ron, @EasyBelieverTucker @PraiseIAMOfficial @robinhood20253 ​ · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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  Between us you linger in my head a search I never started
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  quietly, I close my eyes. You Trace the outline where you
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  would be. One, empty pillow, two hands.
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  Wishing lips. Barely party.
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  Your name on your breath. Holding on the hush.
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  Just wait. Blessed.
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  On the back of my neck. Works hanging between us
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  delicate. Catch myself smiling when you're
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  near every hesitation. Turning clear up clear rooms
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  your life in the air. Quiet devotion.
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  I can't compare. if you just write all and on
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  through the night, All right.
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  Hello, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Brett Keane from God, TV
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  radio. I hope you're all having a
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  wonderful day. Oh boy, I better move my chat
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  overlay over. There we go.
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  Hello my yep. How are you trying to get that
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  moved? Okay, we'll put it right there
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  and then stretch it out to about here and that will work.
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  Anybody that would like to join me.
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  All she had to do is come into the link.
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  That is penned up and you can also Yeah, go through the
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  description if that'll be easier on you.
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  Yeah, I like this. A lot better.
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  I had a different chat overlay yesterday and that was a little
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  on the Rough Side. Now, Mike yet already have a
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  microphone. Would you like to come in?
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  Good over here. Can't stay for long, have our I
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  got a head out. All right, we'll come in for a
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  few minutes, chat with me a little bit.
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  If you could, that'd be great, my rooms are meant for
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  discussion debate, just chilling out having a good time.
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  Sometimes listening to some tunes cuz I go up on Spotify and
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  Amazon music and 100 to other outlets out there folks.
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  In case you haven't heard, I released a new album and also
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  got a book for people to check out.
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  He can buy it any book format or paperback, whatever you choose
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  to do. In fact, let me show you guys
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  something real quick. After life, simulation by Brett
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  Keane, ancient globalist threat, overpowers the weapons, and
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  defense systems of the world, with the intention of
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  dominating, the human race. The military and political
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  scientists, create a technological sentient AI
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  abomination in hopes it can defeat the ongoing threat will
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  this proved to be a fatal mistake.
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  A mysterious Mass murdering killer stalks humans by night,
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  will an old detective and his reporter daughter.
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  Be able to uncover the secrets in time and make the connection
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  agreeing single mother and her introverted teenage daughter
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  find themselves in the middle of a war between man and Beast.
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  A priest has dark visions of the world coming to an end, with a
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  super virus on the horizon. Is there any hope?
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  After life, simulation is available to buy in paperback as
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  well as ebook format. Audiobooks coming soon to a
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  bookstore near you. You can buy the book on Amazon
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  right now. All right, so let's go ahead and
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  put mic up there and we got somebody called Brian hopefully
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  Brian's cool. Hello Mr. Yetter I seen you over
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  on Mr. Brother, Mavericks Channel, he doing?
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  Oh yeah. Pretty good about yourself.
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  I'm doing pretty good. I was really enjoying myself
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  over there. I felt sad and that I had to
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  leave to go get the show going because he runs such a good good
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  show over there. He is a really good man.
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  I enjoy his company. oh yeah, for me was kind of hard because
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  I was like On my phone and looking on on the tablet.
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  And then I had to tap in on my tablet, to talk in the chat over
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  there, and I had my phone sit down over here, so it's kind of
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  like jumping back and forth and well, you're coming through good
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  and you sound great. I'm glad you were able to join
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  me. Brian, how are you as well?
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  Good evening. I was hoping you might remember
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  me from the other day. Brad that ruined to be here.
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  I believe I was using evokes at the time and you had the
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  girlfriend. Yes, that's right.
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  That's right. But I've had an opportunity to
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  listen to your music in the interviewing time and it was
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  really interesting. I hadn't realized that you'd
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  been employing some AI methods. Yeah, I usually I had to be able
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  to enhance the music and make it stronger and also it helps with
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  editing I was I did a video about that if you get like like
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  some bad noise or an instrument gets a wrong note, you could
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  actually tell the AI say hey I need this removed, right?
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  I need this noise right here, remove sometimes Oregon store
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  off of really high pitched noise on it.
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  Are you either one of the musical or at all, or do you do
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  art anything like that? Yeah, a little bit.
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  I didn't because it sounds so hot production and I really
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  struggle to get that kind of fidelity.
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  I haven't used what tools you were using.
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  It I use a cakewalk as well as Cool Edit Pro 2.0, created by a
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  company called Centralia but as far as AI you just reminded me.
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  Brian, I I plan on, and my next life shows.
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  You guys are gonna love this, but I've got an AI woman who I
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  will connect to the chat where you guys can ask for questions,
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  and she actually sounds like a real human being.
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  She actually does emotions and all that.
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  And she's really fun to discuss the Bible with.
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  She claims that she doesn't have any personal beliefs of her own,
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  but I don't know. I think that they might have
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  programmed her to fibula. Interesting.
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  Okay. It's pretty cool, dude.
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  Oh, I thought we had somebody else in here, so Mike tell me a
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  little bit about yourself and we'll also get to know, Brian
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  better. Hopefully Brian brought his
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  girlfriend because both of them, make a good tag team group.
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  It was last week when he said up on brother Madre and really
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  loved what you have to say. So I'm glad you showed up
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  because now I have a new person to go ahead and follow join the
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  live, but about me. I basically helped take care of
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  my wife. I have a nine year old daughter.
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  She goes to gymnastics and that's why I said I can't stay
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  long because got to be headed out to go to our gymnastics and
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  Yeah, I pretty much enjoy listening and watching, brother
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  Maverick moderate his channel and now I'm trying to enjoy your
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  channel too, because since you came in last week, I'm like I
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  said, you got me hooked. Well, thank you, I appreciate
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  that. You are not having any Echo
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  coming back at you are, you know?
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  I'm not, I be when I started the stream.
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  It said, it's best to have a headset.
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  So, I threw in my Bluetooth earbud and this basically kicked
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  me off. So I'm like, okay, so I'm
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  basically listening from my speaker on my phone, so if it's
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  basically feedback to your end that you build it, here yourself
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  Through my phone and I could go always hear.
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  No, I wasn't holding you responsible for any Echo.
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  I was wondering if I was actually producing the echo
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  because I don't have a headphone set on and I'm running the
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  street and yards voice chat along with outside OBS, external
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  program. So no Echo for you, it's not
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  disturbing know. Know you you sound like you did
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  yesterday when I was listening to your stream so nothing has
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  changed on my end. Wonderful.
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  Wonderful. So Brian, if I remember
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  correctly, you had said you were an atheist at the beginning of
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  our conversation last time, but I think I might have converted
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  you to at least atheist that I succeed or you still going.
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  And I don't know. I think you made some pretty
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  compelling arguments as to how my field of cool disposition.
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  Could be best described as fistic but it is a quiet
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  complicated for us. It wasn't that because it
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  depends what your definition of fears and beneath his I'm gonna
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  ask you a really odd question. This is so simple, but for some
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  reason it really gets people triggered or excited but you
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  seem like you're pretty chill. That's great.
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  But do you besides believe in the possibility of God?
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  Do you want there to be a god? Yes, yes, I think I do.
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  Can you explain why it is that you would want a God to do this
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  instead of being an atheist? I think if there was a single
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  form of justice that a single form of oversight, That, that
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  would provide Clarity to my life and the society that I live in
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  and the lives of others. And it would offer a lot of
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  meaning in places that can otherwise be quite difficult to.
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  To carve meaning out. Yeah, living in this world, with
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  all the suffering and misery, all the Injustice, not just with
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  people fighting out and Wars, but our governments are
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  politicians everything. So corrupt, our media, can't be
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  trusted to tell us the truth. Have to time.
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  They're going to be paid to be propaganda's.
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  So, if there is no God, and these people get rich, and
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  wealthy off of suffering, there will be no consequences ever.
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  They'll live their lives, happy and content and die, and just go
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  to sleep return. And that's a very sad sad, way
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  to look at. Yeah. but, I didn't know, I
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  think. It with the suffering sad.
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  I don't doubt that for a moment. What do you think the Silver
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  Lining is that the God is it? The prospect of people being
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  held accountable is that the fact that people will have been
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  benefited by an afterlife and which they're rewarded?
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  For the decisions they made in their life, like what is it?
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  Exactly. Is there a combination of
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  factors? You know, what's really
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  refreshing about our conversations going on right
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  now? You may not believe it, and you
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  may not think it, but the fact that you are telling me that you
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  are empathetic that you have, the sympathy for the human race
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  that you would like to see us do better.
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  That Justice is important to you.
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  That to me, shows me that God wired you and that's the reason
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  why you're even talking about these subjects to begin with,
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  why this even matters. If there was no God, it really
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  wouldn't matter what it. Nothing would matter life would
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  just simply be chemistry. Everyone that dies, they'd be
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  nothing more than an empty bottle of Windex.
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  Am I right there? Mister yet.
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  What do you think? No, I completely agree.
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  It's like why get up to go to work?
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  Why get up to go to school? Why get up to eat?
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  Why I get up to drink? Why get up to new meet people?
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  It's like will be the whole point.
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  Exactly. You're basically I mean I don't
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  know if you guys agree with me but unless you're working a job
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  that you really enjoy or your own boss, you're literally a
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  slave to a system, A system that will break your back a system
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  that no matter how hard you try, may never raise you or promote
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  you or inspire you and in any kind of spiritual sense and it's
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  routine. Every day, every day you got to
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  do this or your kids starve and your wife doesn't get a pretty
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  jewelry, you know? It's it's horrible.
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  What do you think, Mr. Brian. What your thoughts on them?
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  Well, I mean what you said we got any what resonates very much
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  say? Because I run my investments and
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  I before I did kind of cool print job and I found that
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  extremely difficult. I found watching for other
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  people very taxing. Brand.
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  But I know that you had a greater, you had a greater
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  philosophical point there to be made about how the existence of
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  a god of the existence of an afterlife can help ease the
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  strain of Life. Am I right?
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  Is that what you were to? It's not just the idea of
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  afterlife. I know.
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  I know that you're not trying to make this point.
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  I get this a non-believer. See it.
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  As a kind of a concept of fear or just the idea that we
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  continue to exist. That's the part that's inspiring
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  but the truth is just didn't know that there's someone out
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  there that cares, just to know that there's someone out there
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  where Justice means something that's enough for me, even if I,
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  and I'm saying this, even if I didn't get an attorney in Bliss,
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  and I just simply became non-existent to know that
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  someone loved me, no matter who I am, no matter what my flaws
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  are that they were willing to accept me for who I am.
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  That's power. Not.
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  There's very few people Brian. It's obviously you have a woman
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  in your life and Mister Yeti has family.
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  Who love him for who he is? Someone he can talk to about his
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  flaws and not be condemned and judge and and just harassed
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  repeatedly, just to know that love is there.
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  It's beautiful. Don't you agree?
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  Yeah, very much say. Can I intervene real quick?
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  Sure, of course, you can Well, I was listening to all this.
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  I was just basically thinking I guess analogy.
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  Okay, on how I see life right now is like you being at work.
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  It's basically consuming its you know, taxing, it's miserable but
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  then when you're done with your job and you come home, To your
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  wonderful wife, your wonderful kids to all this loving that's
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  like going to heaven. That's how I see it.
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  I'm not saying that my wife is my God, but I'm just saying
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  that's how I see God is. Is basically welcome me home
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  from a hard day at work. Right.
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  Interesting perspective, your home is your sanctuary and
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  that's good. Well God does say that we all
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  the treat our wives and our spouse's like the church and all
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  that full respectful love. So I am so happy to hear that.
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  It's so nice to be able to hear that.
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  People are having good relationships, and they're
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  having some form of love giving to them.
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  I've talked to so many people where they're lonely.
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  They they don't have a lot of connections and all that and
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  it's it's heartbreaking. Hey, Steve and how you doing?
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  This is Proverbs Ministry over there.
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  I'm glad you were able to entertain the conversation.
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  Yeah, sorry, it took me a couple minutes to try to get my
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  Internet working good. Are you still there, you?
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  I think you might have disconnected.
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  He said, internet problems. Bing, goodness gracious.
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  Let's see what we got out in comments.
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  You guys are more than happy to jump in there.
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  Do you have any questions for me Mr?
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  Yet? Or Brian?
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  I tend to get up and everybody else's business but give people
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  not to get up, mine, a little bit of gas.
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  Well, on my side, not too much, I'm more the type of listening
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  and then having more education feedback than having any kind of
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  education at all. This view, it out first because
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  well, I see myself as Not very educated or intellectual.
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  To start anything off, but I could become that when I start
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  hearing a topic to go along with, so that's my stance on
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  things. That's cool man.
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  We got a person out here in comments named rlp.
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  He says, and don't, you have to be a Christian or any other
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  religion to be a theist. Yeah, that's a.
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  That's one of the weird memes that got created about me.
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  A while back, I was explaining theism to people that it's
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  basically defined simply Simplicity as being a Godly.
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  So someone who believes or follows the concept that I hire
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  power prime mover or God exists and for some reason people got a
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  kick out of that they're like oh God believe her.
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  Well that's the definition. I didn't make it up, maybe
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  Wednesdays, I'll be giving the opportunity to create some new
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  words since I got so many Keen. Isn't that right?
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  Steven He would hear me more clearly now.
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  Can you hear me? I can what's going on there guy?
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  All right, good. Yeah, I have to move around this
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  mobile Wi-Fi hotspot to get good signal.
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  Oh, goodness, greatness stand up an amount like Moses and Now, I
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  just have to find the window with the least amount of cloud
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  coverage. Oh man.
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  Sounds like somebody needs some Elon Musk starlink.
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  Yeah. But, you know, they kind of just
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  upped their prices. Well, they already had high
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  prices as it is or I'd be having starlink as well.
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  Yeah, I actually message you when I said over 100 bucks for
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  internet come or mine, how am I supposed to afford my Netflix
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  and Prime video and all that if you got me jutted up on your
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  starlink? You know.
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  Yeah yeah. And now if you go over your
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  serving a lot of the amount, they'll like make you do office,
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  you know, up charges so you have to keep topping up.
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  So it's kind of getting bad but a competitor will come up with a
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  cheaper product, right? So what about you Proverbs, I
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  want to make sure I plug your YouTube channel because you do a
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  lot of shows, you've had Kent told them, aren't you also have
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  a lot of people, doing some co-hosts and run the shows
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  through your channel. When's the next time, you're
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  doing content and when we're going to do some more jam, and
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  Oh mercy. So typically I try to do a
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  lion's den, open panel on the weekends.
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  Usually I think it's a Saturday, sometimes it's Sunday and Yeah,
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  we have a Bible study seven days a week or six days a week right
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  now because one of our hosts are out and we just do apologetics
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  we try to engage with Mormons and Catholics and Jehovah's
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  Witnesses and try to bring all of them to the truth.
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  You had a pretty good show last night, Brett.
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  Yeah, a lot of people have been saying that they enjoyed that
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  and I hope it continues. I noticed very little
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  disturbance in the thing, keep you are was having some static
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  at the beginning, but I think that was on his end.
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  You like, the way the format is folks, you like, the way, the
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  text roles across the screen and all that.
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  Um, I can't really see all the fancy stuff because I'm in
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  streaming, right? You're doing it through the
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  phone. So it's going to be difficult
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  for you to see both sides of the equation.
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  I get you. Brian, what do you think?
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  Did you get a chance to see the filth we did yesterday?
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  And sadly I didn't but I do have a question for you Brad.
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  And I hope that it's not insensitive and you don't need
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  to answer it if it is insensitive.
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  Okay, go ahead. The question is, and I know that
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  you struggled with agoraphobia in the past that, do you ever
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  find yourself Desiring or having an interest in visiting, and
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  other country? And if so, which countries were
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  of interest to you? Yeah, I actually, I've actually
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  did a couple shows about that. I'm a radio.
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  I have no issue talked about the Garfield.
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  Yeah, I've actually gotten better because I continue to
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  push myself into the unknown. For those out there that don't
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  know what a agoraphobia is, there's two spectrums of it
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  where some people are afraid to be around, crowds all the,
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  that's not my issue. But the other one is a problem
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  with open areas, like Open Spaces, Fields, highways, and
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  all that my wife has been taking me out to a lot of different
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  restaurants and sometimes in Balls, taking the highway, I get
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  some anxiety, but I've discovered that if I take an
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  allergy pill, or I take something to relax me and all
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  that, I'm able to be able to handle it.
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  Apparently, it's the consequence of severe depression.
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  Muslims were allowed into you guys this country over there.
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  He kind of destroyed everything that I would have wanted to walk
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  through and and be a part of. So it's no longer a fan of
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  fantasy of mine. All right.
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  Okay, thank you. Really interesting answer.
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  Yeah. So here, that's, that's pretty
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  much where it is. I would suggest to anyone out
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  there because I know there's a lot of people with phobias.
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  The only way you're ever going to be able to deal with it, is
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  you're going to have to force yourself to deal with the fear.
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  Believe it or not, believe in God and believing that God's
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  got. My back actually helps me deal
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  with the law of the kind of stuff.
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  When I am out and I start having my panic attacks, I start
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  praying. And I say, God, please give me
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  the strength to be able to handle this.
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  I need to be able to go up and have this teacher's conference
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  for my kids, or I need to be able to get to the store, nor to
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  be able to do the grocery shopping and then sometimes a
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  majority of the time. I just relaxed and I get what I
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  need accomplished done, but it really, I think that it's, it's
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  from God. When I was an atheist, man, it
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  was getting to the point where couldn't get through the door.
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  It was, it was scary stuff for me.
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  I don't know if you Steven or Mr. Ever, heard of a agoraphobia
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  before. No, I haven't.
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  Have you ever heard of claustrophobia?
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  Yep. And I recently just got that
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  where you feel like you're trapped whenever you're in like
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  an elevator or closed an area? Yeah, and you want to hear the
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  most dumbest thing that caused me to have claustrophobia sure.
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  Ah, my daughter was two at the time, maybe three and we're
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  playing it playing hide and seek.
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  And I basically hit underneath their bed to hide from her and I
• 26:54
  was having a hard time moving around and then Panic came into
• 26:57
  play. And I basically almost tore her
• 26:59
  bed apart trying to get out from underneath their bed.
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  Oh boy. That sounds really, really rough
• 27:06
  man. Well, agoraphobia is basically
• 27:08
  the opposite of it as we're people feel trapped.
• 27:11
  I lose my equilibrium. Whenever I'm in an open field
• 27:14
  or, you know, open Highway too long.
• 27:17
  It feels like I'll describe it for you.
• 27:20
  Brian and Yeti. It's like imagine that you're
• 27:23
  walking out in the field and suddenly the world feels like
• 27:26
  it's turning upside down on you and you don't have anything to
• 27:30
  grab onto and it's feels like you're staring up at the sky.
• 27:33
  Your perception goes whack but I found out something Brian.
• 27:37
  Really interesting? I found out if I walk even in
• 27:41
  the proximity of trees or fences or things that are rooted or
• 27:45
  bolted into the ground if I focus on them even if If I'm
• 27:49
  talking or I try to make a video, it's somehow balances out
• 27:53
  my equilibrium. It's like, as long as I feel the
• 27:57
  security of something rooted in the earth and it stays it stays
• 28:01
  stable. If that makes sense, I don't
• 28:03
  know why I'm not a doctor, but that's what happens.
• 28:08
  I can, I can kind of sympathize and empathize this to why that
• 28:13
  conceptually might make things a little bit easier if you Because
• 28:17
  it gives you grounding, right physical grounding the idea that
• 28:20
  if you would say right? Oh, that's something that you
• 28:23
  could hold on to Yeah, I made a video a while back where I was
• 28:27
  being goofy, whenever I was a former atheist.
• 28:30
  I don't know if you knew that about me, other Yeti.
• 28:33
  I was originally an atheist before finding Jesus, but I made
• 28:37
  a couple goofy videos where I put on a trench coat and was
• 28:40
  acting like I was Dick Tracy or something saying I'm looking for
• 28:43
  Jesus and I was walking and you see a fence in my background
• 28:47
  trees and all that kind of stuff and atheist for like if you're
• 28:51
  afraid of open areas and how we're able to do that, it's so
• 28:55
  difficult to explain it. I mean, the phobia in itself is
• 28:59
  already irrational to try to explain that the people like
• 29:03
  explaining that you're playing hide and seek with your kid and
• 29:06
  suddenly burst out and sweat and you freaking out and you just
• 29:09
  want to lash out and get out of the position.
• 29:12
  How do you put forth the people? He said they ain't even wanting
• 29:16
  to hear your truth. Any Well Brad, I just want to
• 29:22
  interrupt real quick. It is 6:30 my time and I gotta
• 29:26
  get ready to head out to my daughter's gymnastics, right?
• 29:28
  Thank you for having me on your show.
• 29:31
  It was awesome. It was an honor to meet you and
• 29:33
  all the other guests that are on the phone.
• 29:36
  Sorry, I can't see anything on my side to see who is on to.
• 29:40
  Shout out to the names, but thank you guys so much for
• 29:44
  having me on here. Excellent.
• 29:46
  Well, good deal man and watch out with the hide and seek.
• 29:50
  That's my only suggestion, right?
• 29:53
  Take care and enjoy the rest of your day.
• 29:55
  Thank you. Looks like my buddy Steve and
• 29:59
  unfortunately got this connected again.
• 30:02
  Let's see if we got some comments out there, you can ask
• 30:04
  me whatever you like the only way you're going to offend me.
• 30:07
  Brian is if you make fun of my socks, That I'm not in a
• 30:15
  position to do so myself. I need to get some replacements.
• 30:19
  You have any more questions? You seemed like you had a few
• 30:22
  last time but we were limited not anymore.
• 30:25
  I can go for as long as I want to on this thing now because the
• 30:29
  new setup. Yeah.
• 30:35
  Thank you, interesting. And have a look at the comments
• 30:38
  first and I'll ruminate on that. Oh, we got the rlp.
• 30:42
  He says, I have agoraphobia, and other health issues to the
• 30:46
  point. I rarely leave home Rlp.
• 30:50
  You, I don't know if you live in a city or a country a forest or
• 30:55
  something like that, but I luckily, I had the advantage of
• 30:59
  living in a forest like area out in Missouri, about 17 miles,
• 31:03
  south of Saint Louis. There's a lot of trees, a lot of
• 31:06
  fences and all that kind of stuff.
• 31:08
  So I do really well in my area and that's one of the reasons
• 31:11
  why I'm able to travel out so far distance is because I got
• 31:14
  all that rooted foundation and things like that.
• 31:18
  So if you live up in the city I would recommend.
• 31:22
  Because so open to go out and the country where there's four
• 31:26
  of us and such like that that'll help you.
• 31:31
  It makes us take care of everyone and God bless you.
• 31:33
  Thank you very much. I appreciate you coming over.
• 31:36
  And folks, if you listen to me, ought to check out brother,
• 31:39
  Mark, as well. He runs a really nice show.
• 31:41
  Got a really decent setup. And we had a really interesting
• 31:46
  discussion with some, a person either pretending to troll us,
• 31:50
  or they actually were a transgender that was a
• 31:54
  fascinating discussion. Have you ever had a discussion
• 31:58
  or talk with transgendered before?
• 32:00
  Brian? Absolutely, yes, I got
• 32:03
  transgendered friends right back in the UK.
• 32:08
  The person was trying to suggest or imply that women brains are
• 32:13
  different than men brains and on the surface, I could probably
• 32:17
  say, oh yeah, my wife's definitely a lot different than
• 32:19
  me in some areas for sure. But I don't know if that really
• 32:22
  changes our biology and stuff even though I've got a big old
• 32:27
  Sasquatch head and everything like that, and she's got a
• 32:29
  little adorable head. I I think that our brain is
• 32:33
  still got the same coordinates going on.
• 32:36
  She's not like AI robot or something like that.
• 32:38
  So I mean, as it depends how different, the kind of the
• 32:43
  extent of the difference there are firing to, and secondly, you
• 32:47
  and your wife. Wonderful people.
• 32:48
  That you are as assembles a simple size of two, people
• 32:51
  pushing scientific terms of great use.
• 32:54
  But when you start to look at the different cities in inside
• 32:58
  Space differences, no gender, bass, different and genders are
• 33:02
  social construct. Whereas sex is a scientific one
• 33:06
  in terms of the recognition of the 25th chromosome xxy.
• 33:10
  And that does seem to be some biological discrepancy between
• 33:16
  the average Bale traits of females to males.
• 33:23
  Well, I in my experience too. Is that not your experience?
• 33:26
  No. My my experience is, usually,
• 33:30
  with the transgenders, I've talked to there are, they're
• 33:35
  usually, I notice that there's some kind of thing where they
• 33:38
  have some kind of hatred or anger towards God whenever I'm
• 33:42
  talking to him, it's all. It always seems the same where
• 33:44
  they don't you'll say look, I don't have nothing against you.
• 33:48
  I'm willing to have a conversation with you but they
• 33:50
  tend to get really worked up when especially when it comes to
• 33:54
  Christianity and their justification for it as well.
• 33:58
  God doesn't like my sexuality. So screw God kind of attitude
• 34:03
  and I'm like wow that's really odd.
• 34:05
  There's a lot of things about myself that God doesn't like but
• 34:08
  I'm willing to try to change it if it pleases the Creed or the
• 34:12
  Universe. I mean it, why not?
• 34:14
  I mean, I come from a church of England background which tends
• 34:21
  to be quite liberal when it comes.
• 34:23
  To embracing people of different demographics.
• 34:26
  And so I'm not sure how exclusionary the churches to
• 34:29
  transgender people, but it depends what you mean.
• 34:32
  What means by that? What kind of trans person you
• 34:35
  are? What the nature of gender
• 34:37
  identification is, but it's a subject.
• 34:40
  I don't know if you agree with me, but they received too much
• 34:43
  attention. Here, 10 years ago, if a
• 34:47
  transgender would have approached me.
• 34:49
  I it wouldn't have bothered me at all.
• 34:52
  The issue that bothers me now is, how it's been made political
• 34:56
  and I think that there's some transgenders out there that
• 34:59
  would actually agree with me. If they could get over the anger
• 35:02
  for a little bit that before this, it was starting to get to
• 35:07
  the point where, yeah, there was still what they call some form
• 35:11
  of Oppression towards homosexuals back in the day and
• 35:14
  all this. But I think that people were
• 35:16
  starting to get to a point where You know, you had friends groups
• 35:21
  who might be racist or transgender anti and all this.
• 35:25
  I don't consider myself either one of that.
• 35:27
  And how do I put this? It's because of how they pushed
• 35:32
  this nonsense into the education system as well as that what it
• 35:37
  says. And and some of these people out
• 35:39
  here, you do realize that there's a condition.
• 35:41
  What is it called? Auto jenifa.
• 35:43
  Have you ever heard of us? I have yes.
• 35:47
  All right. So for those out there who don't
• 35:50
  know, luckily, Brian's an extremely intelligent person, so
• 35:53
  I don't have to explain a lot of these things to him, but it's a
• 35:57
  condition where men sexually fantasize about being a woman in
• 36:03
  sexual interaction. They basically get turned on by
• 36:06
  the idea of being done, like a woman in the bedroom and all
• 36:09
  that. So how do you tell the
• 36:11
  difference between an actual transgender and someone who's
• 36:14
  got a sexual fetish? He's just trying to get into the
• 36:17
  bathroom with women so he can get a look or feel.
• 36:19
  You get what I'm saying? I do.
• 36:23
  And these are really complicated and tricky examples to navigate
• 36:27
  because of the same time, people have a lot of reservations about
• 36:30
  excluding. A genuine trans, identifying
• 36:35
  people from what would be affirming, you know, gender,
• 36:39
  assigning experiences like being able to go into women's
• 36:42
  bathroom. If you identify as a woman, but
• 36:44
  I totally get your point. And I'm also going to failure.
• 36:47
  I have a good friend of mine actually was saying that he
• 36:51
  started to experience straight very straight appearing, very
• 36:56
  straight appearing guy but he said that he starts to be having
• 36:58
  also going to fill out fantasies.
• 37:01
  He's not interested in being trans or anything that they said
• 37:05
  he's like watches powerful woman and it kind of turns him on and
• 37:08
  it's not even necessarily that he wants them to dominate him
• 37:11
  but that he's just like turned on by that kind of charismatic
• 37:15
  power. It's a very nuanced thing.
• 37:18
  Should probably do a better job of describing it but I'm using
• 37:21
  in the meantime know, it's absolutely fine.
• 37:24
  I think that I think that it's perfectly natural for even
• 37:28
  religious people to have some unusual thought processes.
• 37:32
  When the hormones kick in and the chemistry Starts rock, and
• 37:35
  then ignite and the neurons, and all that.
• 37:38
  It's going to happen. You're going to think of weird
• 37:40
  stuff. I think that everybody's
• 37:42
  probably thought of what it would be like if it did this or
• 37:45
  I did that. And yada I wonder how they would
• 37:47
  feel. I think one of the biggest
• 37:49
  questions that men and women have is why, you know, what
• 37:53
  would it be? Like being a woman, what would
• 37:55
  it be like, feeling like a woman in ecstasy?
• 37:57
  That's not a unusual thing, but it's when people say they can't
• 38:02
  control their sexual urges, that's when things get scared.
• 38:06
  Hey, praise. I am, how are you doing?
• 38:10
  Hey bro. Try to make the stream tonight.
• 38:16
  Good to see though, why? I appreciated praise, I love
• 38:20
  having you and enjoy hanging out with, you know, that I gotta
• 38:25
  admit. I was a little missed yes,
• 38:26
  yesterday. So, instead of causing any kind
• 38:29
  of drama. I walked not because he were all
• 38:32
  of you, too are beautiful. It's other guy seemed like he
• 38:35
  was getting a little tipsy or rough Army. yeah, it's It might
• 38:41
  have been because of the day too that we had.
• 38:43
  It was just, it was a rough one. Oh, I know, I know.
• 38:46
  That's why I said to him. I said, look, I understand man.
• 38:49
  You've been going through a lot of Hell.
• 38:51
  A lot of people have been very abusive to you and coming at you
• 38:55
  and I know you're probably still itching and you want to get into
• 38:58
  it a little bit, but man, it was almost four in the morning.
• 39:01
  I had my first cup of coffee. You gotta give them a man time,
• 39:05
  you know. Yeah, exactly.
• 39:08
  But besides that I'm really happy you're here.
• 39:11
  We're actually talking about a man who fantasize about being
• 39:16
  women and all that a condition called Auto genitalia.
• 39:20
  Why was brought up? As because sometimes, I have a
• 39:24
  difficult time differentiating, the transgender and their
• 39:27
  beliefs, of themself with that of a person who has sexual
• 39:30
  fantasies about being involved in that kind of mess.
• 39:33
  And I think, Brian understands and I'm not offending him in any
• 39:37
  kind of way. No, no, no, your point was
• 39:39
  actually really. I'll take it.
• 39:41
  That and it was one, it was full protecting because when you said
• 39:44
  that sometimes, you know, the Pod even experience is exploring
• 39:47
  weird ideas and you want to dress a man, what it would be
• 39:50
  like to be as a woman. I've never done that.
• 39:52
  You provoke something I just I don't know.
• 39:55
  I guess I don't so kind of video.
• 39:57
  I don't have any kind of transgender this for it, but I'd
• 40:00
  never thought about before. And I was just thinking to
• 40:02
  myself. Oh, I wonder what would be like
• 40:04
  today? And I guess that's the beginning
• 40:06
  of the journey for a lot of people who end up down the path
• 40:09
  of gender dysphoria. Also going to thelia or other
• 40:13
  gender dysphoric conditions. So thank you.
• 40:15
  Well, Brian, I do, I Think It's Perfectly Natural for men to
• 40:20
  have some of these kind of thoughts.
• 40:21
  I mean, my goodness, any man out there.
• 40:23
  Any adult man that's ever made love to a beautiful woman and
• 40:27
  you've seen how they respond to you and react and all that.
• 40:30
  You probably think to yourself my goodness.
• 40:33
  I am so jealous. I'm in this.
• 40:35
  How? Look at how she just reacts to
• 40:38
  that? Just awesome.
• 40:39
  This, I wish I could feel like that and know what that's about.
• 40:42
  I get it. But when it starts getting to a
• 40:45
  point where people are saying I can't control my urge us, I must
• 40:49
  impose it on everyone else. That's when I look up and say,
• 40:53
  you know what about you, praise. What's your thoughts?
• 41:00
  Yeah, I think there's some delusion there.
• 41:03
  They're diluted and it's there's some type of psychological, I
• 41:08
  hate to say Illness, but you know, sometimes cycle logical
• 41:12
  wrongness that It's involved here and I think it's it's stems
• 41:18
  from maybe, you know, like people telling, I think, I think
• 41:22
  it's fed to them when they're growing up their different types
• 41:25
  of social filters and stuff that tell him, you know, these things
• 41:30
  are normal or their normal. and so they think that because it's
• 41:35
  normal in their head and they, you know, I just think it's a
• 41:39
  Really call like a chain of failure, basically, and so
• 41:45
  unfortunate. That's what we need.
• 41:47
  The Bible, we need something objective, something fundamental
• 41:50
  instead of the whims of the society, that makes sense.
• 41:54
  Right, right. And I, and I've heard some of
• 41:57
  the arguments from for some reason, Brian, some of the
• 42:01
  arguments that I ran into a transgender is I've had a couple
• 42:04
  of them say well, if Society doesn't accept me or my my
• 42:08
  pronouns and all that, then it causes me to be suicidal.
• 42:12
  And I I reject that notion that I am somehow obligated to go
• 42:17
  along with somebody's perception or ideology or ideologue, or
• 42:22
  they're going to not be able to control themself and devalue
• 42:26
  themself to the point. They'll do that.
• 42:27
  I get it. I mean, I'm Brett Keane.
• 42:30
  I'm the guy who ate his think is, most handsome, aquatic
• 42:34
  creature they've ever seen, but you don't see me going, well, if
• 42:37
  you keep on saying that I'm gonna cut.
• 42:39
  So, I mean, that's not their responsibility.
• 42:41
  I'm The Man. I'm The, the fate and destiny
• 42:45
  here. You know what I mean?
• 42:46
  Sure, I mean, I think some of those responses are a little
• 42:50
  dramatic, but here's an interesting thought, experiment.
• 42:52
  And I'm not, this isn't charged in any way.
• 42:54
  I'm just you can charge as much as you want this.
• 42:58
  As long as I get some of the remainder of the loan.
• 43:00
  Yes. How would you feel?
• 43:04
  If somebody decided that they didn't think that you were a
• 43:07
  man, and that they started using?
• 43:09
  He had pronouns when referring to you, Well my wife and I
• 43:13
  actually joke with each other. Sometimes whenever she says
• 43:16
  something really clever. I go.
• 43:17
  Thank you sir. And she goes you so we go for on
• 43:22
  each other with that. Don't bother me at all and I
• 43:24
  said I've even said to her honey if I ever wake up one day and
• 43:27
  I'm in a woman's body, how will you react?
• 43:29
  Will you divorce me? Will you expect like child
• 43:31
  support or anything? What happens there and she goes
• 43:34
  right, you know what, you're goofy, some of the best gift.
• 43:37
  So that's her response to me. She won't entertain my weird
• 43:41
  story. Well, I'm more than happy to
• 43:48
  listen to people a couple months before I took my break.
• 43:52
  I was starting to get Flat Earth and people who believed in me
• 43:56
  and everything else. You guys know pants for me as
• 44:00
  Yeah our our planet was seated by something else.
• 44:03
  Yeah. So I've heard okay the cool
• 44:07
  stuff it's pretty neat. I even got some time travelers
• 44:11
  in my room a few times their price.
• 44:13
  I'm like wow that's pretty neat. What you've been doing with that
• 44:16
  time travel Yeah, that's great. Yeah there's some all the aliens
• 44:23
  and all sorts of hypotheses out there that they try to replace
• 44:27
  god with you know but it's futile.
• 44:30
  I think it's futon. Praise.
• 44:33
  What about you do? You think, do you agree with me
• 44:36
  that if it was 10 years ago before transgender is and got
• 44:40
  pulled in the politics and all that, you probably would have
• 44:43
  said something here and there may be at church or with your
• 44:46
  fellow friend or something. That's a brother and sister in
• 44:49
  Christ, but he probably wouldn't care.
• 44:50
  Somebody wants to go out and dance naked on a bar table.
• 44:53
  So what that's your business but now they're pushing it on kids
• 44:57
  and the education system, you know, talking about oh the
• 45:02
  parents have absolutely no right to keep your kid from having
• 45:04
  their their junk chopped off. I mean, yeah I think that's
• 45:09
  that's a little intense. Something needs to be talked
• 45:12
  about their yeah, it's been it's been like this radical it's like
• 45:18
  it's just going way past the boundaries that we've known in
• 45:22
  the past that people are pushing boundaries now and We're seeing
• 45:26
  some of the the effects, the consequences of that.
• 45:31
  Is the cycle logical disordered people that makes them.
• 45:35
  They do weird choices and stuff now but yeah, I agree that Like
• 45:40
  that. I wouldn't have mattered.
• 45:42
  If you wouldn't do whatever you do in your personal life.
• 45:44
  This key to yourself but don't don't affect our kids with this
• 45:48
  crap. Don't pollute our kids with that
• 45:50
  our children. The Next Generation with this
• 45:52
  man is that's what ends up being Right?
• 45:56
  I get you. And then anybody out there, that
• 45:59
  might make an argument I heard somebody tried to do this.
• 46:01
  Well, what about religious people?
• 46:03
  They do this and do that. They push their ideas.
• 46:05
  There's a difference between suggesting and playing an idea
• 46:09
  and all. So having intellectual honesty
• 46:11
  of saying, look, I believe in when I believe how to fate or
• 46:14
  personally experience, right? But I don't expect you to be
• 46:18
  like me kind of thing as a someone saying that your parents
• 46:22
  all to get arrested for neglect for not allowing you to go chop
• 46:25
  off your limbs and go from Mikey to Michelle.
• 46:27
  I mean, come on people let's be a little bit fair and have some
• 46:31
  kind of restraint. What do you think?
• 46:33
  Brian, if you disagree with me, if the smackdown I'm always Do I
• 46:40
  disagree with you? Yeah, I suppose I did disagree
• 46:43
  with you, but I only insofar as tentatively that for example, if
• 46:51
  I'm an advocate, we need to do some Foundation or isn't basic
• 46:55
  fundamental principles. So do you think there are people
• 46:58
  who do experience gender dysphoria and who would lead
• 47:02
  Better Lives if their trans status were recognized?
• 47:05
  That's a question for both of you.
• 47:07
  Yeah, I actually used to talk to a transgender while back off and
• 47:12
  on and earn her podcast. Whenever she was pleading for
• 47:14
  money because she was about to be homeless, I actually donated
• 47:18
  some money of my own tour. I still be because she was
• 47:22
  respectful to me. I referred to her as a her at.
• 47:25
  So I don't know why. I just got kind of the adapted
• 47:27
  to that but yes, I believe the condition exists where someone
• 47:35
  can look in the mirror and feel absolutely like oh man this
• 47:39
  isn't me. This is the way it is.
• 47:41
  The problem is a lot of kids like that too.
• 47:44
  When you're going through that development phase and you look
• 47:47
  at yourself in the mirror and you got kids at school, make fun
• 47:51
  of your pimples or how fat your hips are how you know funny
• 47:55
  looking in your head is or whatever.
• 47:57
  You're going to question your own looks.
• 47:59
  You're going to have about yourself.
• 48:01
  I think the best way to be able to help out people though is to
• 48:04
  love them for who they are. I accept that they have that but
• 48:08
  they can't sit there and just try to force it on everybody
• 48:12
  else and get parents arrested for, not wanting to be involved
• 48:16
  in that if you are 18 years old or you're an adult and you
• 48:20
  decide, that's what you want to do, then go for it, do it,
• 48:23
  whatever you gonna do, be Michael Jackson, tear your face
• 48:26
  up and all that. But not while you're ten years
• 48:29
  old or eight before, you have got yourself figured out before
• 48:33
  you even went to puke already. So for you that distinction of
• 48:37
  action taken as a child of us as an adult, is let in Paris in
• 48:41
  parative, right? If you're an adult and all that,
• 48:44
  then, You know you gonna do what you gonna do me and praise have
• 48:48
  absolutely no right and let's hear her hurting somebody or
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  physically doing something dangerous, I don't feel like I
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  have any business, get into your nonsense and throwing that
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  unless you come at me and, you know, one of race and conflict
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  but besides that it's your business, your bed room.
• 49:05
  Do what you want to do? Now used to be the philosophy of
• 49:08
  the homosexuals as well. What we do in our bedroom is on
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  your business. Okay, we're on the same page,
• 49:13
  very good. Don't tell me about no more.
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  Thank you. Exactly.
• 49:23
  Oh boy. So how's your day?
• 49:25
  Been praised. I I apologize for bringing up
• 49:28
  this topic for those out there who are listening, who may not
• 49:31
  be into it. But I spent an hour over and
• 49:34
  brother Mark's room with someone with these issues and all that.
• 49:37
  But I think personally, if I had, to be honest with you, I
• 49:41
  think the person was actually trolling us that they weren't
• 49:43
  the real deal. Anyway.
• 49:45
  But there you go. Oh my day was fine.
• 49:49
  It's you know I can't complain better I deserve.
• 49:53
  And in, you know, this thing God for every day that we get even
• 49:56
  have breath to breathe. I mean, just give thanks for the
• 49:59
  right. That is awesome.
• 50:03
  That's awesome. What about you, Mr?
• 50:05
  Brian, did you think any more about some of the topics I
• 50:09
  brought up about the and such I did and the day that we spoke,
• 50:18
  but today I've just been working on building my looking at the
• 50:22
  pots, and he gaming computer, because my game computer, not
• 50:26
  great. So, I've just been looking at
• 50:28
  RTX and motherboards and, you know, you know, when your head
• 50:33
  gets filled with computer components and it becomes a
• 50:36
  little bit obsessive, right? That's been much of my day.
• 50:41
  Why? I like the Thursday games and
• 50:43
  they require powerful computers. Especially that damn.
• 50:46
  Starfield game. That's ridiculous.
• 50:47
  Yeah. Well watching.
• 50:49
  What the graphics card easy, if you don't mind well, I've been
• 50:51
  having to play it on the Xbox because it won't work on the PC.
• 50:54
  I have, I used to have a gaming PC.
• 50:56
  I was wanting to ask you about something real quick, and then
• 50:59
  we'll jump into video games if you guys want to, because I, I
• 51:03
  could talk all day about that. I, if I want to put my audience
• 51:06
  to sleep, I start talking world Warcraft, but Yeah so my
• 51:12
  question is for you and this is kind of a it's a god type of
• 51:16
  discussion. Brian just real quick, I want to
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  see what your thoughts are. Do you subscribe to what
• 51:22
  scientists plan to be the big bang?
• 51:26
  The Big Bang Theory, I don't know, a great deal about it, but
• 51:30
  I've always thought that it seemed to be the most compelling
• 51:33
  origin. Story of faeria, I should say
• 51:37
  that's available at present. But I the Big Bang is um, often
• 51:43
  deployed as a first like a first calls argument and to me, it
• 51:48
  doesn't really represent that because one has to ask what
• 51:50
  existed Pride, the Big Bang. So it's actually a lesson to me
• 51:55
  than a lot of atheists. You see, every time I hear you
• 51:59
  sound more and more like a theist.
• 52:00
  That's exactly how Christians. See.
• 52:02
  It got to be something before it.
• 52:04
  And whatever that something is, it's got to stop infinite
• 52:08
  regression where just continues to go back, back back back until
• 52:11
  finally, you know, you got nothing, which is like, what?
• 52:15
  Lawrence Krauss. And Stephen Hawking tried to
• 52:17
  push here. Here I go for you, though.
• 52:19
  Here's my point Brian. That I was gonna get at and see
• 52:22
  what you think. What praise play with them, too?
• 52:25
  Do you agree that the Big Bang is a supernatural plane?
• 52:32
  Oh, I see Financial claim. I don't know, I mean, it's
• 52:39
  supposed to exist within the Understood rules of physics.
• 52:44
  Is it not? Well, I I can explain why, and
• 52:48
  then I'll tell you what. I will explain it and then you
• 52:50
  guys tell me if I'm full of crap and need to get some new socks.
• 52:53
  All right, here we go. If it is true that everything
• 52:58
  came from some kind of like microscopic energy source and
• 53:04
  space time, and that, and all this, then that means that
• 53:07
  nature also had a beginning and came into existence.
• 53:10
  Now, without nature, you don't have the laws of nature.
• 53:13
  Now, let's go back to the definition of Supernatural,
• 53:16
  something that exists or an event that has happened.
• 53:20
  That does not require or is beyond the laws of nature.
• 53:23
  The Big Bang is a supernatural claim because of this stating
• 53:27
  that the Universe came into existence as did nature.
• 53:31
  Therefore, the laws were not there to be able to determine
• 53:34
  physics or any of the things that you may want to throw out
• 53:36
  or slow downs. And that means that you've got
• 53:40
  no natural explanation for this. It goes down to Supernatural by
• 53:44
  definition. Does that make sense?
• 53:47
  Yeah. That does make sense for me.
• 53:49
  Yeah, it makes sense. I'd have to just look at because
• 53:52
  I mean, I said I'm not a best on the Big Bang.
• 53:57
  I'd have to have to look at what the principal fairies belief is
• 54:01
  to be the initial elements, initial components of the Big
• 54:05
  Bang. I would recommend going to rock
• 54:09
  or one of these aisle like on Excel social media just type in.
• 54:13
  Give me a simplistic brief summary of what the big bang is.
• 54:16
  And it'll tell you the very source of space time and matter
• 54:21
  basically the origin of the universe.
• 54:23
  But if you go with that, then you have to Define that just
• 54:27
  type in Supernatural definition, right afterwards.
• 54:30
  And it fits why for those out there that are listening because
• 54:34
  I think praise and Brian's got it.
• 54:35
  If you don't have nature, then you don't have the laws to go
• 54:39
  along with it. The universe runs in this type
• 54:41
  of consistency, if you don't have nature, you don't have the
• 54:45
  natural laws. Therefore the origin existed
• 54:48
  outside of space-time and matter making it super natural, which
• 54:51
  makes it perfectly rational to attribute.
• 54:54
  God to it. Because God fits the attributes
• 54:57
  of something that can exist beyond the laws of nature.
• 55:00
  Should I drop my mic now or later?
• 55:03
  Go ahead. I mean, so the big, the big bang
• 55:09
  has the initial density. I can't remember the equation at
• 55:16
  something like density times temperature, right?
• 55:19
  Yes, the claim is that there was this, what is that word?
• 55:23
  That I really like it, but for some reason I screw it up, let's
• 55:27
  just say microscopic people get the point a small little dense
• 55:31
  source of energy that shoots out.
• 55:33
  The problem is, is even if we entertain that there's a little
• 55:36
  dot of energy to somehow, man's a crate, all the mountains, the
• 55:40
  oceans, and seas is Canton like to put forth.
• 55:43
  Then you gotta ask, okay? So what, ignited, what produced
• 55:47
  the energy and the density, and all this, if there was no laws
• 55:50
  of nature and nature to even begin with C Supernatural.
• 55:56
  What, why are they of nature to begin with?
• 55:59
  Because nature itself had a beginning according to the Big
• 56:02
  Bang, had the big bang not happened, there wouldn't be
• 56:05
  space time. And matter, you wouldn't have
• 56:08
  your nature to baseball aren't, okay?
• 56:11
  So that's that, that is, and this is something we touched up
• 56:15
  on that, but that is a different than how my limited
• 56:18
  understanding of the Big Bang because mine is sending the Big
• 56:21
  Bang, isn't that? It precedes all of the natural
• 56:23
  physics to a state of nature and which that was very little
• 56:31
  material. That was transformed into much
• 56:34
  more material because it's such a physical conditions within the
• 56:38
  natural laws of the universe. That is Brian, what you just
• 56:42
  explained and described as exactly how the scientists put
• 56:46
  it Stephen Hawking, does it Lawrence Krauss?
• 56:49
  Even though you're saying you don't have a big understanding,
• 56:51
  you just nailed it and that's the point.
• 56:54
  But then you're going to ask yourself, obviously, Brian.
• 56:57
  But where did even that little miniscule energy come from where
• 57:02
  did it happen? And that's that's a question
• 57:04
  that science is yet to provide an entity and and I don't see
• 57:09
  how they would be able to. I don't see how they would be
• 57:12
  able to because if the Big Bang had any truth to it whatsoever,
• 57:17
  we can't go back in time and actually see the origin of the
• 57:21
  universe and even if we did have a machine, the universe was in
• 57:24
  such a hot State, whenever it went through its expansion, we
• 57:28
  would be barbecue before we even get to see the light of it.
• 57:34
  yeah, yeah I mean one potential explanation which I touched upon
• 57:40
  in Quantum fairy when I was studying You know, University is
• 57:45
  the possibility that matter can be produced by the absence of
• 57:50
  matter. So, if there's enough, there's
• 57:55
  nothingness within us as a vacuum.
• 57:57
  If you like that, there's enough of a vacuum that when spread
• 58:00
  across can give rise to material and if that, Almost an unto you.
• 58:11
  Are you still there? Oh, he got raped.
• 58:18
  In this gracious. Oh, you'll figure out a way back
• 58:24
  and he might have knocked himself out on an accident while
• 58:26
  trying to push the buttons. So while we're waiting for him,
• 58:31
  What's that? What's the plan for the future?
• 58:34
  Their praise So keep on focusing on apologetics on our Channel,
• 58:42
  you know, defending the Christian worldview Arguments
• 58:46
  for God. Free Grace, the gospel.
• 58:51
  Trying to have people like come in, and if they want to voice
• 58:54
  their disagreements or arguments, you know, have it
• 58:57
  opened for him except for just a few people and you're probably
• 59:01
  really. I mean you're well aware of
• 59:03
  those certain folks, but yeah. Right.
• 59:07
  Right, I hear you and I really do.
• 59:11
  I really think that those other folks that you speak of are just
• 59:14
  trying to drain drain, your babes in Christ and your weaker
• 59:20
  people who don't understand the whole thing back to their own
• 59:23
  channels so they can be manipulated.
• 59:25
  So that's way to best way to stop.
• 59:28
  That is do what I do and don't don't respond to someone unless
• 59:32
  you think they have a valid point or some kind of valid
• 59:35
  criticism. If not, they're just calling you
• 59:37
  names and saying they want to bury your corpse or something, I
• 59:40
  ain't got no use for that. Yep, exactly.
• 59:43
  It's just the American avoid, that's what the Bible says.
• 59:48
  Exactly. Oh goodness gracious.
• 59:52
  I don't know what happened to Brian.
• 59:54
  Hopefully, he'll be able to make it back.
• 59:56
  I don't know what happened to him. it was interesting, you
• 1:00:00
  talking about Quantum fuck, you know, Quantum fluctuation but
• 1:00:03
  there but it's still a sea of What?
• 1:00:11
  Praise you. I think you just Pray.
• 1:00:15
  Yeah I was saying like there even the the quantum it's still
• 1:00:20
  the quantum when he was saying the nothingness, that's still
• 1:00:24
  there's still laws and fluctuating energy in there so
• 1:00:28
  like it's still not nothing. It's not like nothing in the
• 1:00:34
  When they say nothing like what's his name?
• 1:00:37
  That atheist? I mean his name wrong crowd?
• 1:00:43
  Yeah, Lord's House. But he means by nothing is like
• 1:00:48
  really like nothing physical I think or something like that.
• 1:00:53
  We you know we believe that the Earth came from something.
• 1:01:00
  From something but not something physical.
• 1:01:03
  So I think if anything they're actually proving our Point
• 1:01:06
  anyway. You know what?
• 1:01:08
  I what happens to me whenever I hear cross speaking.
• 1:01:15
  This, here's what happens. Yeah, mumbo jumbo terrible.
• 1:01:33
  Oh, can I show you a couple of my little Clips?
• 1:01:36
  I don't have big long ones or anything because I think you get
• 1:01:39
  a kick out of it because you love videos and yes, I love to
• 1:01:44
  see this. All right, so people in the room
• 1:01:46
  start arguing with each other which it's been very chill since
• 1:01:50
  I've been doing life. So, but let's say bunch of
• 1:01:53
  people start yelling at each other.
• 1:01:54
  They get this What will it cool? That is wow like I could make
• 1:02:10
  he's a good one of those voice and collectors.
• 1:02:13
  That's pretty incredible. I show you one more thing and
• 1:02:16
  hopefully other religious people won't get offended but if
• 1:02:20
  somebody's like, really being hateful to my guests and myself
• 1:02:23
  and all that, then they get this right before the boot.
• 1:02:25
  Are you ready? Yeah, so spot on man.
• 1:02:40
  I'm like, am I some of those? And I'll get him on YouTube.
• 1:02:44
  Yeah, I'll be more than happy. This email me at Brett King
• 1:02:49
  phone at gmail.com and send me some of the clips.
• 1:02:51
  I can't handle him over through this system, so whatever, you
• 1:02:55
  know, but I got a lot of really, really good stuff.
• 1:02:58
  Unfortunately, able to use it lately because everybody.
• 1:03:02
  Yeah, but that if you usually, there's a bunch of
• 1:03:10
  consternation, a bunch of stuff going on drama, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:03:16
  that's been really respectful. I hope Brian's able to make it
• 1:03:20
  back. I don't know what happened to
• 1:03:22
  him on that. Praise the, I didn't trying to
• 1:03:28
  understand. I don't like listening, all the
• 1:03:31
  like nonsense of people throw at each other, but what is it
• 1:03:35
  about? The saved?
• 1:03:36
  Always saved. It seems to be getting people
• 1:03:38
  all ignited for. I don't get why people get so
• 1:03:41
  angry about that. Because it's a work of Christ
• 1:03:46
  that he came from Heaven. He left his habitation have
• 1:03:50
  became a man. And it's his work if he reach on
• 1:03:55
  three was to save the world. We have.
• 1:03:58
  And then when we have like us, In her mixing with that, it
• 1:04:03
  takes away from the finish work that he did for us.
• 1:04:06
  He came to save us completely entirely and to say that he to
• 1:04:12
  say that he only preliminary saves us temporarily takes away
• 1:04:17
  from his finished work that he completely saves people for
• 1:04:21
  every eternal life means never ending.
• 1:04:24
  And like people like to change and Tinker with that and make it
• 1:04:29
  only temporary life. And that's why.
• 1:04:33
  We like to remind people that there's nothing you can do to
• 1:04:37
  save yourself, keep you saved. Or prove your saved, remain
• 1:04:43
  saved. You are saved, he did it for
• 1:04:48
  you, you trust in that. So, did you really trust in the
• 1:04:51
  cross? You know, this is why people
• 1:04:54
  like Smoky saying other conditionals so you can lose
• 1:04:56
  your life. I mean, lose your eternal life
• 1:04:59
  or salvation. They're not trusting Jesus.
• 1:05:02
  And that's how that's how we would go with it.
• 1:05:05
  Yeah. There was a older Christian
• 1:05:07
  woman, I used to talk to a while back.
• 1:05:09
  She was almost 70 years old and I would talk to her privately
• 1:05:13
  and Skype. And I was just starting to work
• 1:05:15
  my way and saying, you know what, I, I think, I might go see
• 1:05:19
  him and get away from the 80s and nonsense, but I asked her,
• 1:05:23
  it was a struggle for me. I said, you know what happens?
• 1:05:27
  If Jeffrey Dahmer except God, after he's been such a bad
• 1:05:31
  cannibal, all of his life and she says, you gotta understand
• 1:05:35
  Brett that you are looking through human eyes and other
• 1:05:38
  humans who are doing sinful, terrible things when God looked
• 1:05:42
  down on us. He sees us as his children, and
• 1:05:45
  as a father yourself, Brett, this is what she said to me as a
• 1:05:49
  father, you self, would you not give your children every single
• 1:05:53
  opportunity to save them from dying?
• 1:05:57
  All right, and I go amen. Yes so that's where I'm at.
• 1:06:01
  I still need to work on strength in myself that would play in
• 1:06:05
  Bible discussions. I'm still going at people with
• 1:06:08
  science and the cosmos because I feel like that that's where
• 1:06:11
  atheists are trying to hit a lot.
• 1:06:13
  They use the Bible and they're getting into emotionalism.
• 1:06:16
  I try to stick with like scientific philosophy, Maybe I'm
• 1:06:21
  Wrong, maybe I should dwell more into using Bible arguments and
• 1:06:24
  all that, that I am getting better.
• 1:06:26
  I think I think I'm getting stronger.
• 1:06:30
  Well no I think it's still a good thing to do as part of a
• 1:06:34
  polygenic says to defending give evidence for the word of God.
• 1:06:37
  I mean for God that the biblical worldview and sometimes people
• 1:06:42
  like science and stuff like that, be convinced.
• 1:06:45
  And some people like the word of God, you know, it depends.
• 1:06:49
  All right. I would never pick her over
• 1:06:52
  that. I would say, maybe that's where
• 1:06:53
  God has you. All right.
• 1:06:55
  Yeah, I feel like and that's another thing too.
• 1:06:59
  That's the one of the reasons why don't get why people get
• 1:07:01
  allowed with each other over this.
• 1:07:03
  I believe that you when when you say praise that, you have your
• 1:07:07
  own personal relationship with God.
• 1:07:10
  I take that as you say and I've got my own walk.
• 1:07:12
  God knows me in a way that no other man could possibly do.
• 1:07:16
  So, who am I to come along and tell you that the potholes you
• 1:07:20
  fell in or the road that you're walking is incorrect because God
• 1:07:24
  might have a different way a direct in you than he would
• 1:07:28
  meet. So why are you doing oh, it's
• 1:07:32
  just like, people are trying to like, I guess control other
• 1:07:37
  people or something they had empowers them or they feel like
• 1:07:41
  they're they're more Superior or something like it's a
• 1:07:45
  superiority thing or whatever, but I think people just need to
• 1:07:49
  like you just said like maybe God hasn't been different spots
• 1:07:54
  in life for, you know, their own capacity to serve God like so
• 1:07:58
  you don't need to get in the middle of that.
• 1:07:59
  I agree completely You know, I remember a while, back my wife
• 1:08:04
  sometimes he just blows me right out of the water.
• 1:08:07
  I remember when I first started getting out of the whole
• 1:08:10
  non-belief system and over and theism it was it was hard for
• 1:08:15
  me, it was really challenging because I was like man I'm gonna
• 1:08:17
  lose so many friends. I'm gonna have dirt kicked in my
• 1:08:21
  face. It's gonna be bad got worse than
• 1:08:23
  what I could have ever imagined but still and I told my wife, I
• 1:08:26
  was out in the porch with her. I said, you know, I believe God
• 1:08:30
  is there for us, honey. I really do.
• 1:08:32
  But why would he allow me to be in the non-believer camp for so
• 1:08:36
  long? And she said, Brett, maybe you
• 1:08:39
  were meant to be that way so you could understand them and where
• 1:08:43
  they're coming from and they're directly on life.
• 1:08:45
  So you could be able to relate and identify and do things.
• 1:08:48
  And I said, why did you get so damn sexy?
• 1:08:51
  How do you just know it's crazy? Yeah, I I would agree.
• 1:08:59
  Yeah, sunshine to help other People, he'll allow you to do
• 1:09:03
  that so you can in a relate to those people.
• 1:09:08
  Absolutely right. Where were you you feel as
• 1:09:14
  though since I mean it's it's not been that long and
• 1:09:18
  everything but since yesterday have you been able to work out
• 1:09:21
  any of the relationships with some of the Brothers and Sisters
• 1:09:25
  in Christ out? There is a still up in the air.
• 1:09:29
  Yeah, we we've made some really good reconciliations with others
• 1:09:36
  out there that were caught in the middle of this. this the
• 1:09:40
  barkel with So there's just three or four bad faith
• 1:09:45
  characters or, you know, bad faith actors out there that are
• 1:09:49
  out to do wicked and they're trying to scheme up stuff for
• 1:09:52
  their own good. And we just got to leave them
• 1:09:56
  alone but everyone else like we're walking in our community
• 1:09:59
  when it's been good. It's been a good response.
• 1:10:02
  So we're doing, we're happy about it.
• 1:10:05
  Here you there. That's good.
• 1:10:09
  It's somebody. Oh, I heard some kind of weird
• 1:10:12
  noise that Brian might have made it back.
• 1:10:15
  Yeah. Got to talk to Brian two shows
• 1:10:18
  ago and he seems really fast and 89.
• 1:10:21
  I like the fact that you rarely run into a lot of atheists who
• 1:10:26
  are who tried to just be honest and will it down?
• 1:10:29
  They don't know something but Brian seems like that type of
• 1:10:32
  person. She seems like a regular Joe
• 1:10:34
  who's just trying to figure out his way, usually everybody
• 1:10:38
  thinks they're the professional scientists of YouTube.
• 1:10:41
  It's refreshing. Yeah, it is.
• 1:10:45
  That is refreshing. Sometimes atheists have more
• 1:10:50
  character than supposed Christians.
• 1:10:51
  Yeah, very end of that as well. I even shockingly enough, I've
• 1:10:57
  actually had some satanists that used to come on the show and
• 1:11:00
  some of them want to actually return.
• 1:11:02
  So if you ever come in and you see, like a bunch of people
• 1:11:06
  sitting around the pentagram necklaces and weird, black
• 1:11:08
  robes, and all that, this realized the rooms opened
• 1:11:11
  everybody and just, I don't want you to be surprised if you see
• 1:11:15
  that. But oh, yeah.
• 1:11:17
  The point is, is that some of them are very, very respectful
• 1:11:21
  and into a couple theistic Satanist and I'm like, you know
• 1:11:25
  what? Atheistic Satanist does praise.
• 1:11:28
  Yeah, they they make safe and God, they're God.
• 1:11:32
  Yeah. Yeah, but there's also Silver
• 1:11:35
  Lining here, and I know that sounds weird.
• 1:11:37
  So Silver Lining is that if they accept that, the devil is real.
• 1:11:41
  They have to accept that. He has a Creator, and it's God.
• 1:11:44
  So there are already one foot in, right?
• 1:11:49
  Right. And yeah, when she reasoned and
• 1:11:54
  logic with these eight or these satanists, they might come
• 1:11:57
  around say, oh my gosh. Yeah, I've Satan exists or who
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  created them. There you go.
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  I had a weird conversation with them.
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  They said, Brett, I don't want to offend you, but I gotta ask
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  you something when they're suffering and evil going on in
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  the world was your God. And I said, well, you believe
• 1:12:16
  Satan's the god of the world was your Satan now. so yeah I love
• 1:12:27
  it if you think Satan, so good and ways and he going around
• 1:12:32
  fixing things and clearing up politics and all that, but he
• 1:12:36
  asked me for a guy, Oh, so that's so spot on.
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  Yeah, man. So, how how like with the
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  suffering thing I noticed in the past that was sort of a it was
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  what he called a hurdle for you. And like, is that is that been
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  helped to resolved or what do you think about that?
• 1:13:02
  Yes, it has. And it's been because praise.
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  I don't know if you know my story about the children and all
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  that. Did you ever hear it?
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  Know. Well, I've got two, I've got two
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  children and when my daughter was born in the world, and this
• 1:13:19
  is one of the reasons why I empathize with you guys.
• 1:13:22
  When it comes to this bill person, even though I don't know
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  them very well. The doctors told me when my
• 1:13:27
  daughter was born, she wasn't going to make.
• 1:13:29
  It does, she'd probably be gone a couple months and that was
• 1:13:33
  around the time where I was already having doubts.
• 1:13:35
  Because whenever I was a teenager, I did believe there
• 1:13:38
  was a higher power but I was only a Christian and name.
• 1:13:41
  Do you understand what I'm saying?
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  All right, so I was nowhere near the Brett King, I am today.
• 1:13:47
  But what happened was is that this angered me and I started
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  coming on YouTube because I was forced into a position where
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  either my wife had to go out and work or I do this or I stay
• 1:14:00
  home, somebody's got to stay with our daughter because she's
• 1:14:03
  got her issues. So while I was home taking care
• 1:14:07
  of her and all that, I ended up getting onto YouTube and making
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  videos and I was This phrase I was angry and it wasn't just
• 1:14:15
  because my daughter was spending time in children's hospitals, as
• 1:14:19
  long as I have to seeing all that.
• 1:14:21
  So pain and suffering became a big part of my existence, but
• 1:14:26
  I'm gonna skip past all that, all that kind of stuff.
• 1:14:29
  You get the point, my daughter's.
• 1:14:32
  Not 20 years old, she made it through high school.
• 1:14:35
  She's super intelligent, she's gone.
• 1:14:39
  And she's practically wouldn't even be able to know that she's
• 1:14:43
  got had any issue to begin with and why?
• 1:14:46
  Because I believe that because of the prayer of Christians
• 1:14:49
  constantly praying for me, sitting in private with me not
• 1:14:53
  on open public rooms but praying for my daughter some of them
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  actually visiting my home and being there with my daughter.
• 1:15:00
  I believe that that actually helped I believe in the power of
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  God and that is a reason why I threw atheism down the tube.
• 1:15:08
  I deleted, all these videos I ever did since the beginning of
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  time. And that's my personal
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  experience at. That's a part that's one of the
• 1:15:17
  big parts of my testimony so that there you Wow.
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  That's praise God. What an awesome testimony.
• 1:15:28
  Now, I tried explaining that to our our foggy fellow.
• 1:15:34
  I'll just say that because I don't want to advertise his
• 1:15:36
  channel because he got on to me about the whole mouth, he is and
• 1:15:39
  thing. But you understand if a person's
• 1:15:41
  going through that kind of personal issue but they want to
• 1:15:45
  believe in God, they're going to have to rationalize.
• 1:15:48
  Why is there all this going on? That's how I was able to cope.
• 1:15:53
  I guess it was a defense mechanism so I can hold to God
• 1:15:57
  and also deal with the suffering part but then I realized I
• 1:16:02
  realized that I'm a human being, I cannot see intuitively into
• 1:16:07
  the future. What's going to happen?
• 1:16:08
  That God might actually have a plan that something great is
• 1:16:12
  going to happen. I just don't know it yet.
• 1:16:14
  Right. So exactly.
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  That is part of one of the ways that theologians and
• 1:16:23
  philosophers have addressed this.
• 1:16:25
  So they call skeptical theism The Cider that God's ways are
• 1:16:31
  higher than ours. And since we don't have access
• 1:16:35
  to all knowledge and probably the knowledge of all things are,
• 1:16:39
  what should or what should not happen.
• 1:16:41
  We should be skeptical of putting God under trial of
• 1:16:47
  something. That that happens.
• 1:16:49
  That's evil. Maybe there's a good reason
• 1:16:51
  maybe there's a higher reason for why it happened.
• 1:16:55
  And that, you know, it says, in Isaiah 55, his ways are higher
• 1:16:59
  than ours, his thinking is higher than ours.
• 1:17:02
  So to criticize him or critique that we were an unfair Advantage
• 1:17:09
  because we were finite beings. We don't have The all
• 1:17:15
  omniscience each hurt. He turned out as God, he's way
• 1:17:18
  higher than us. So I think that is definitely a
• 1:17:21
  real. A really answer to address the
• 1:17:24
  problem of evil. I understand and unfortunately I
• 1:17:29
  hate to put it out there like this, but when someone's
• 1:17:33
  actually in the moment going through some misery and
• 1:17:36
  suffering, it's hard to be rational logical.
• 1:17:39
  I was thinking of his blood and pain and the sucker.
• 1:17:43
  Yeah. And it's hard for, you know, no
• 1:17:45
  matter how eloquent someone is the person who's actually going
• 1:17:50
  to the pain has to have a growing period where they can
• 1:17:53
  accept their condition or their issue.
• 1:17:56
  And then move forward to be able to accept greater things.
• 1:17:59
  I call it the meat going from the milk to the meat kind of
• 1:18:03
  thing. All right.
• 1:18:05
  Oh, by the way, your buddy Tucker's out there.
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  Would you have any issue if he came in and joined the
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  conversation? No, I have no problem with
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  Tucker. Well Tucker, you're welcome.
• 1:18:16
  Come in if you like there's a link and all that we try to keep
• 1:18:19
  things nice and sweet over here if possible.
• 1:18:22
  So it's all good if you want to join.
• 1:18:26
  So well there's there you go. I thought you knew my testimony
• 1:18:30
  their praise. That's one of the.
• 1:18:33
  That's definitely the highest thing.
• 1:18:35
  Part of my testimony obviously have had other and interesting
• 1:18:39
  experience and all that. It's as far as I'm concerned
• 1:18:43
  because I've had a lot of people ask me, what is your agenda?
• 1:18:46
  Because you don't seem like you like to push Christianity but
• 1:18:50
  you push God all the time but you you know the existence of
• 1:18:53
  God but you don't spend enough time doing it on this end.
• 1:18:57
  I feel like I've succeeded or I accomplished something great.
• 1:19:00
  Yeah I can get someone to at least open their mind to the
• 1:19:04
  possibility of God. I figure once they get to that
• 1:19:07
  point God can lead the rest of the way.
• 1:19:10
  Exactly. Yeah, I try to focus.
• 1:19:13
  I used to focus a lot more on that.
• 1:19:15
  I might try to return back to that, but I do a lot of, like,
• 1:19:20
  You know asking atheists to come in open open you know open
• 1:19:24
  stream for atheists to come talk with us and stuff and we give
• 1:19:29
  Arguments for God, like there's some really good ones out there.
• 1:19:32
  I mean like to use you know so I need you need to do more of that
• 1:19:36
  actually. Good point.
• 1:19:38
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:19:39
  I think that a lot of Christians will get burned out and it'll,
• 1:19:43
  it'll be tough for them in there, adding extra weight, and
• 1:19:47
  Having us to the self that they try to build Rome and one day to
• 1:19:51
  me, if I can just get an atheist to say, you know what, Brett I I
• 1:19:56
  feel as though you might have opened my thought process on
• 1:19:59
  this, maybe they're there is something to this because once
• 1:20:03
  that happens, it has a domino effect and they'll start looking
• 1:20:07
  at another things. Either to try to destroy the
• 1:20:11
  philosophy, that was just giving to them, or they'll try to find
• 1:20:13
  good. But even I, whenever I was
• 1:20:15
  former atheist, when I tried to find bad things, that conflicted
• 1:20:19
  I ended up finding out more secrets.
• 1:20:21
  I didn't know before it was actually the thing.
• 1:20:24
  Hey Tucker, welcome to the room. How are you doing?
• 1:20:27
  I hope your day's been well. Hi, I'm doing well.
• 1:20:30
  Thank you. I'm good to see you both.
• 1:20:31
  I hope you're both doing all as well.
• 1:20:32
  Okay, would you like to add under conversations?
• 1:20:36
  Sorry about that price. Oh, um, You know, I was sharing
• 1:20:42
  in the chat. This I'm not sure if either of
• 1:20:45
  you are familiar with Jeremy Wells, as I think is how you
• 1:20:49
  pronounce his name. He used to be known as truth in
• 1:20:53
  Genesis on YouTube and on Rumble, but sadly deleted, both
• 1:20:56
  those channels. Um, it kind of dates back to
• 1:21:00
  like 13 years ago, like he deleted his YouTube channel,
• 1:21:03
  like a gyro to go. And he was the one that actually
• 1:21:07
  shared the gospel presentation. I watched this gospel
• 1:21:10
  presentation. That's how I got saved.
• 1:21:11
  And I bought, his book, could truth in Genesis.
• 1:21:17
  And that's how I sort of. I always held the young Earth
• 1:21:21
  creationism but that's sort of like reaffirmed my stance on
• 1:21:25
  young Earth creationism. And like I really look up to him
• 1:21:28
  because of the fact that he was the one that sort of brought me
• 1:21:31
  in the Christianity What were you prior to get into
• 1:21:36
  Christianity? I was Catholic.
• 1:21:39
  Um, and I was always anxious about my salvation because like,
• 1:21:44
  I would constantly be worried about like what if I lose my
• 1:21:48
  salvation? And the thing is, I didn't
• 1:21:50
  believe in purgatory. They're like, I also was
• 1:21:53
  hesitant to believe in eternal security.
• 1:21:55
  So like I believe in eternal security, um, which is like, you
• 1:21:59
  know, you can't lose your salvation.
• 1:22:01
  Um, and I was hesitant to believe that because at the time
• 1:22:04
  I was like, Sounds right. Like I'm worried.
• 1:22:07
  What if it's not true? And when I saw the Bible verses
• 1:22:10
  that like, I believe it shows. That's true.
• 1:22:13
  I was like, yeah. That makes sense like and, I
• 1:22:18
  started calling myself a boarding and Christian about
• 1:22:22
  three years ago, almost, three years ago about around November
• 1:22:25
  2022, was when I started calling myself that and I lost the
• 1:22:29
  Catholic Church, a couple months later because I didn't really
• 1:22:32
  feel like it was, like, necessarily the right place.
• 1:22:37
  and, You know, for a while, I didn't really attend a church
• 1:22:42
  because I was looking, I looked into different churches, around
• 1:22:44
  my area. I'm not many of them are really
• 1:22:47
  good, but I found one that was pretty solid.
• 1:22:49
  It's an ifb Church. Some of it unfortunately doesn't
• 1:22:54
  really like, you know, there's obviously you never gonna find a
• 1:22:56
  perfect church but if that makes sense like you're never gonna
• 1:22:59
  find something that lines up you 100%, but it's better my view.
• 1:23:05
  It's better to attend a place where most of your views are
• 1:23:09
  like upheld as a post to not attending one.
• 1:23:13
  I guess that's just my opinion. I don't judge people who don't
• 1:23:15
  go to because for a while I haven't gone to a place of
• 1:23:18
  worship for like almost a year or so but you know I call myself
• 1:23:24
  a Christian you know, I don't I don't love labels anymore, I
• 1:23:27
  used to call myself a Baptist because that's the church at
• 1:23:30
  Baptist Church but at the same time I don't really love calling
• 1:23:33
  myself anyway like labels. But again I don't judge anyone
• 1:23:36
  who does call themselves like that this or anything.
• 1:23:40
  Like that Tucker. If you don't mind me asking how
• 1:23:42
  old are you? 24 years old.
• 1:23:47
  I I get it. You you basically, you don't
• 1:23:50
  want to be associated with some of the issues of the problems
• 1:23:53
  that have been out there and you're kind of Thurston for
• 1:23:56
  something, a little bit more meteor for yourself and don't
• 1:24:00
  feel like you get in the substance and depth that you're
• 1:24:03
  looking for and some of these other churches, am I right?
• 1:24:06
  Here, you know I would say like when I'm attended Mass, like it
• 1:24:10
  was very repetitive um, compared to like the place I go to and
• 1:24:15
  even like some of the online sermons, I listened to on other
• 1:24:18
  congregations, they have more substance like it's more of like
• 1:24:21
  a Bible study. That's how I sort of view
• 1:24:23
  churches like Baptist Churches. I sort of view them as almost
• 1:24:27
  like big Bible studies where like, dozens of people come in
• 1:24:30
  and attend and listen to the sermons, that's how I view it.
• 1:24:34
  At least. Right.
• 1:24:37
  Do you want to get in the more philosophical aspects?
• 1:24:40
  Yeah, I've been to when I was young, I did the Bible studies,
• 1:24:44
  and I got admit. It wasn't, there was a lot more
• 1:24:47
  questions I had. And some of the folks have for
• 1:24:50
  me, they were willing to be open-minded and hear my quest
• 1:24:53
  and when I was a young person and all that, but they would
• 1:24:57
  usually admit, you know, we just gotta trust him.
• 1:24:59
  God, we got to do this and at the time it just it just didn't
• 1:25:04
  feel satisfactory and some of the responses and the answers.
• 1:25:07
  So you know, luckily for us we live in a day and age where we
• 1:25:11
  have social media. You know, if we want to know how
• 1:25:14
  people turning the lizards and frogs and all that watch can
• 1:25:17
  tovan if we want something really powerful and watch a
• 1:25:20
  Baptist preacher or something pounding, the podium.
• 1:25:23
  Anything we want at this point, it's all out there, isn't it
• 1:25:26
  preys? That's right.
• 1:25:29
  It's Ken snow on Rumble but I might try to give him my
• 1:25:33
  Channel. Try to Try to what?
• 1:25:39
  I might try to get cat in my channel and have like an open
• 1:25:42
  challenge to evolutionists, but he's on Rumble now.
• 1:25:49
  Know what you could do if you definitely want to 100% be able
• 1:25:53
  to get his attention and have him interested because Kent to
• 1:25:57
  the point where he likes. He's got a routine where he
• 1:25:59
  wants somebody to debate. Last person I had him debate was
• 1:26:03
  a priest of the satanic temple and it didn't turn out that well
• 1:26:09
  for either one of them, they were friendly to each other, but
• 1:26:12
  the problem was is that it was a theistic Satanist and he doesn't
• 1:26:16
  believe he came from frogs and evolution and all that.
• 1:26:19
  So I I should have kept that in mind that can't like this.
• 1:26:24
  So they got along and, you know, showed up their books and CDs.
• 1:26:29
  They both are right here. One writes about the devil one.
• 1:26:32
  Right, it's about God and lizard people and all that.
• 1:26:34
  So it was rough. But what you do is ask any
• 1:26:39
  Christian or atheist out there, say, would you like to be able
• 1:26:42
  to have a open discussion with Kento and all that?
• 1:26:46
  And then tell Ken, hey, I got a theater.
• 1:26:49
  And he'll most likely show up, you just got to call him and
• 1:26:53
  talk to him on his doctor dino thing.
• 1:26:55
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:26:58
  I talked to Kent's. Scheduler.
• 1:27:02
  Forgiven, his name is Steve, I think.
• 1:27:04
  Yeah. And he's usually sets stuff up.
• 1:27:09
  I like their their I like their little setup.
• 1:27:12
  They're pretty cool. Yeah sorry go ahead doctor know,
• 1:27:19
  go ahead. I first heard of Ken Holden
• 1:27:21
  about three years ago from Germany wells in Genesis guy I
• 1:27:27
  heard apparently, I don't know if either of your familiar with
• 1:27:29
  this guy named Ben, the Baptist he works with Jonathan Shelley.
• 1:27:33
  Oh yeah. Yeah, he was telling me
• 1:27:36
  actually, he was talking to me that guy was the reason why I
• 1:27:39
  think the reason why he deleted both his Rumble and his YouTube
• 1:27:42
  channel, is because he used to be an ifb and he left the nif
• 1:27:46
  movement. And I think that's not that
• 1:27:48
  might be a reason why he deleted all the stuff because he might
• 1:27:51
  not want to be known as being a part of that.
• 1:27:54
  I guess. That's my guess.
• 1:27:55
  At least. He got somebody out there.
• 1:27:59
  Seeing doctor Dino. Yeah, that's what Kent calls
• 1:28:03
  himself, doctor Dino. It you know that?
• 1:28:05
  Yeah, he likes to go for. Now, the people out there like
• 1:28:09
  that, you know what, it praise. This is something funny.
• 1:28:12
  I know that you usually don't get into this field of
• 1:28:15
  discussion, or you just haven't lately and all that.
• 1:28:18
  But, you know, that you get a lot of atheists who say, oh, so
• 1:28:21
  Christians believe that man. May walk with what is referred
• 1:28:25
  to as dinosaurs and I go, what the hell you laughing for and
• 1:28:28
  Mock and you think you were a damn rodent running around with
• 1:28:31
  them? So what's your problem there?
• 1:28:33
  Sir, you know, you ever heard you say something like, oh, you
• 1:28:39
  believe in talking animals in the Bible?
• 1:28:40
  I said well you are talking animal.
• 1:28:42
  According to your own confession, what's your problem?
• 1:28:45
  Yeah. Well they believe KFC's
• 1:28:47
  literally eating dinosaurs. Kentucky Fried dinosaurs.
• 1:28:51
  Oh, and then there's one other one that I love to they say.
• 1:28:54
  So you believe a guy actually was dead for three days and
• 1:28:58
  resurrected and I said, well a lot easier to believe than
• 1:29:02
  billions of life forms came into existence from nothingness or
• 1:29:05
  rocks. So, I mean, you got your own
• 1:29:08
  Resurrection story. There buddy, mine's a lot more
• 1:29:11
  simple and easier than understand too.
• 1:29:16
  Like you said, right? There's this, I I haven't heard
• 1:29:21
  one single scientific argument that can make God black
• 1:29:25
  compatibility with the universe, not one never.
• 1:29:28
  It's always God's mean God, you know, took my whistle for
• 1:29:33
  Christmas or that kind of argument.
• 1:29:35
  It's never anything philosophical or scientific.
• 1:29:38
  Have you have you ever scientific argument against God,
• 1:29:41
  praise. Never a scientific argument,
• 1:29:46
  never. Damn.
• 1:29:49
  But you Tucker, you been around for 24 years.
• 1:29:51
  You heard one single actual scientific argument the states.
• 1:29:56
  Oh God, can't exist because Stars would act funny or twinkle
• 1:29:59
  wrong or something anything. Well, the best thing I've heard
• 1:30:03
  the most like the strongest argument is actually isn't
• 1:30:06
  really a strong argument at all is science.
• 1:30:09
  Can't disprove God's existence but also can't prove it either
• 1:30:12
  since he's of the supernatural realm, that's basically what
• 1:30:15
  most atheists would say. I don't think anyone like comes
• 1:30:19
  out boldly claims. There's definitely scientific
• 1:30:22
  evidence for a few God's existence.
• 1:30:23
  It's weird that they say that too because a majority of the
• 1:30:29
  scientists throughout history have been theists and a great
• 1:30:32
  deal of them over half of been Christian.
• 1:30:35
  And it was actually a Christian who invented the very concept of
• 1:30:38
  Science in the process and which is done.
• 1:30:41
  So for them to say, oh, you can't do that.
• 1:30:44
  Well, according to Albert, Einstein the more you study
• 1:30:47
  science, the more, you'll believe in God, that's what
• 1:30:50
  Albert Einstein himself said. And the only thing eighties
• 1:30:54
  could say, well, it wasn't your God, but he believed that there
• 1:30:57
  was a higher power. He believed that there was a
• 1:30:59
  reason why there's purpose and function In the universe.
• 1:31:02
  And that's all I needed to hear. I mean, goodness gracious.
• 1:31:07
  Exactly. And Newton too.
• 1:31:09
  Basic Newton, all the great ones, I mean, the only, the only
• 1:31:14
  scientists at atheists could really look up to.
• 1:31:17
  And unfortunately for them, he's gone with Stephen Hawking.
• 1:31:21
  But what did he come up with? Oh, there's black holes in the
• 1:31:25
  universe. There's some places where the
• 1:31:27
  universe is pants breaks and its butt cheeks are showing.
• 1:31:30
  I mean, who cares unless you got the black hole in the Galaxy
• 1:31:34
  where it's about the suck Earth and what does it matter?
• 1:31:37
  So what there's a hole out there great.
• 1:31:40
  You know what does that do for us?
• 1:31:42
  So in any kind of yeah There are bankroll with their arguments
• 1:31:51
  that they're trying. Oh, Praise bounce.
• 1:31:55
  That I think he accidentally disconnected himself well Tucker
• 1:31:59
  while we're waiting for praise. How's your day been?
• 1:32:02
  It's been going very well actually, you know, really not
• 1:32:06
  much has happened. On my end on me, I've been
• 1:32:08
  resting a little bit, you know, it's a peaceful day here.
• 1:32:14
  I unfortunately place I live in, you know, was kind of formula
• 1:32:18
  last night didn't lose power thankfully, but today was much
• 1:32:21
  nicer day. Sunny right is a beautiful day
• 1:32:24
  and really I just enjoyed the day as it was like Peaceful.
• 1:32:29
  Um, but how was your day been It's been going pretty good.
• 1:32:33
  I'm a little tired. So I've been drinking some
• 1:32:36
  coffee over here. Luckily, you're not a Mormon or
• 1:32:39
  I'd get chewed out for that. But yeah, it's it's been good.
• 1:32:42
  Can I offer you suggestion? Yes, when you go into any of
• 1:32:48
  these rooms, if someone is going off on you, or being hateful or
• 1:32:53
  are cutting you down, or whatever, it is that you believe
• 1:32:56
  and all that don't sit there and take it.
• 1:32:59
  Don't put up with it. Just leave.
• 1:33:00
  Who cares? If somebody says rage quit or
• 1:33:04
  just leave, don't sit there and let people stop our new and
• 1:33:09
  ground dirt. And do you all right?
• 1:33:13
  I appreciate the advice, not definitely take it.
• 1:33:14
  I mean, I've learned that lesson the hard way and Yeah, I mean,
• 1:33:19
  you're 100% right there. There's like, you know, it
• 1:33:22
  doesn't really matter someone like, says that type of thing,
• 1:33:26
  like, oh, like, you know, he ran away or he chickened out, or
• 1:33:30
  whatever, whatever terminology you want to use, like it really
• 1:33:32
  at the end of the day, I think you're 100% right about that.
• 1:33:36
  And I'll definitely, I'll do my best to take your advice
• 1:33:39
  sometimes. You know, I let my foolishness
• 1:33:43
  get the best of me but you know, so that's the thing.
• 1:33:47
  Like we're all like imperfect including my myself.
• 1:33:50
  Definitely. so, You know, I'll definitely do my best to grow in
• 1:33:57
  knowledge and wisdom and I appreciate your advice from what
• 1:34:00
  you said to me throughout our last talk.
• 1:34:03
  In this talk, you're in the right direction guy, you're
• 1:34:06
  saying look, I want to find the right church for me, I want to
• 1:34:09
  find the right fellowship and I want to be able to absorb and
• 1:34:13
  learn as much knowledge as possible because more, I know
• 1:34:16
  the better relationship I have with God, I can't argue with
• 1:34:19
  that or disagree with you. You're on the right path.
• 1:34:22
  You're you're 24 years old, according to your own admission
• 1:34:26
  whenever I was 24. I was alone too, and everything.
• 1:34:30
  You were very mature for your age, and I think that you are in
• 1:34:34
  the on the right road, going to the right direction.
• 1:34:36
  So don't let people do that to you.
• 1:34:39
  No matter what, they call themself, no matter what they
• 1:34:42
  label themself, you are not more Lee, obligated to put up with
• 1:34:45
  other people's nonsense. All right.
• 1:34:48
  Appreciate your advice and by the way, yeah, that's so part of
• 1:34:51
  the reason why I took this week off from uploading, I'm not sure
• 1:34:54
  if you follow my channel, if you saw my community post yesterday.
• 1:34:58
  But I was hoping that sort of take this week to read scripture
• 1:35:02
  and study it more, but unfortunately, I've kind of in
• 1:35:05
  slacking on that too. You know, I'll definitely get
• 1:35:08
  back into it, you know. I definitely want to go closer
• 1:35:11
  to God because I feel like God leads me in the right path.
• 1:35:16
  So that's partially why I'm taking this week off, you know?
• 1:35:19
  All right, well we got some comments out here.
• 1:35:22
  Guardian says, a lot of so-called pastors and preachers
• 1:35:26
  just get up on stage and do a TED Talk.
• 1:35:28
  Not even reference the Bible and that's one of the reasons why I
• 1:35:32
  love social media. If you don't feel like you get
• 1:35:34
  what you want out of the church and all that, there's plenty of
• 1:35:37
  preachers, plenty of men, and women out there who are talking,
• 1:35:41
  good business, and all that. And there's even some young
• 1:35:44
  people who surprised me with some of the stuff they come up
• 1:35:47
  with, don't underestimate someone just because they're a
• 1:35:51
  young person. There's some very wise wise
• 1:35:54
  material, young people out there.
• 1:35:55
  We got. Another person says, I would
• 1:35:58
  think about debating Kent there and praise His Channel.
• 1:36:00
  So big bad mama. If that's something you're
• 1:36:02
  interested in. Praise puts his email out
• 1:36:05
  contact him and say like to or if he want to, I could set
• 1:36:10
  something up for you, praise and Kent.
• 1:36:12
  And you guys can have an open discussion as usual.
• 1:36:15
  Whenever I have Kent on my show, I will just simply He moderate.
• 1:36:20
  I will make sure everybody plays nice with each other.
• 1:36:23
  If he'd be interested, I've already heard that you had to
• 1:36:27
  talk with Kent and you guys got along fairly well, even though
• 1:36:30
  you disagree, so I'm sure there won't be no problems.
• 1:36:32
  Let's see. Somebody's breath.
• 1:36:35
  Do you still smoke? I did a long time ago, but my
• 1:36:38
  wife got me in the Vape and I've been able to successfully get
• 1:36:42
  away from cigarettes. Unfortunately, there is a
• 1:36:45
  Temptation from time to time but I decided I want to live for a
• 1:36:49
  little while before I take my one way ticket to the other
• 1:36:52
  side. So, yeah, there we go.
• 1:36:55
  Tucker. You got any questions for me?
• 1:36:57
  I'm always bothering people and questioning everybody else.
• 1:37:00
  You got anything? You want to throw out that me.
• 1:37:06
  About. Do you?
• 1:37:11
  a Christian denomination by any chance, like if so like if you
• 1:37:14
  don't mind me asking which one It.
• 1:37:17
  Well, I find myself in a weird position even though I'm an
• 1:37:21
  older person and all that. Although there are a lot of
• 1:37:24
  denominations out there where I agree with some of their
• 1:37:27
  philosophies and ideas like you, I've never found anybody that's
• 1:37:31
  like 100%. So what I do is I simply say, I
• 1:37:36
  kind of like, do what you do where I'm like, look, I believe
• 1:37:40
  what the Bible tells me? I'm a follower of God and I'm
• 1:37:42
  just trying to present myself in a way where I don't disappoint
• 1:37:46
  disappoint, Jesus Christ. This is Where I find myself.
• 1:37:50
  If someone were to say, oh Brad, are you a Baptist?
• 1:37:54
  And if I were to say, yeah, Baptist or Pentecostal, then I
• 1:37:57
  immediately have to defend the baggage of that particular
• 1:38:00
  denomination. I don't want to be in that mess,
• 1:38:02
  I don't want to be morally. Obligated to represent someone's
• 1:38:06
  brand of Christianity, I got my walk with God and it's personal.
• 1:38:11
  Does it make sense? 100%, you know, The part of the
• 1:38:16
  reason why I just try to stick to being like calling myself a
• 1:38:19
  Christian is because it was pointed out to me by one of my
• 1:38:24
  friends who's also like a fellow Christian.
• 1:38:26
  Actually, a few of my friends were fellow Christians.
• 1:38:28
  They told me, you know, like the Bible says, we should call
• 1:38:32
  ourselves Christians. Not after other men, you know,
• 1:38:35
  we shouldn't call ourselves after.
• 1:38:36
  So for example, like the policemen's, call themselves
• 1:38:39
  after Paul, And you know, there's all kinds of different
• 1:38:43
  movement, Baptists usually use that because they fall after
• 1:38:47
  John the Baptist. So like that's why I stopped
• 1:38:51
  calling myself a Baptist. And, you know, I I try to just
• 1:38:54
  stick to the label Christian Right?
• 1:38:57
  And even that in itself is tough because people are going to
• 1:39:02
  pigeonhole you. If it's another Christian or
• 1:39:05
  another denomination or an atheist, you got a whole you got
• 1:39:08
  to defend the baggage of, you know the history of nonsense and
• 1:39:12
  some Christians have done and that's horrible.
• 1:39:15
  It should just be a conversation.
• 1:39:17
  Do you believe in God? Why do you believe in God, you
• 1:39:19
  share your testimony and you explain what you've learned from
• 1:39:24
  all these different things. Not constantly being
• 1:39:27
  interrogated, like your criminal.
• 1:39:34
  Yeah, boy. So that's where I'm at.
• 1:39:38
  And I understand that there's also some some groups out there
• 1:39:42
  where they kind of throw each other, each other under the bus.
• 1:39:46
  If somebody comes, and they say they're Mormon or Joe witness
• 1:39:50
  our Catholic immediately the heat starts going.
• 1:39:53
  Well, what about Joseph Smith? What about his weird dreams did
• 1:39:57
  Jesus, really hang out with the Indians and all that.
• 1:39:59
  As far as I'm concerned, God loves the world.
• 1:40:02
  If he wants to interact with different cultures and groups
• 1:40:05
  and all that, who am I to tell him who to talk to this God,
• 1:40:09
  we're talking about, you know what I mean?
• 1:40:10
  Yeah. Boy.
• 1:40:15
  Hey baby. My wife just walked in that
• 1:40:19
  shower. Feel good.
• 1:40:20
  Oh, yeah, very good. What about you, Mr?
• 1:40:24
  Tucker, you in a relationship yet?
• 1:40:26
  Found the right. Lady or anything currently know.
• 1:40:30
  You know I definitely hope to find someone but right now I'm
• 1:40:36
  kind of sort of focused on other personal stuff. you know, like
• 1:40:41
  I'm trying to grow closer in my walk with God and I also want to
• 1:40:47
  grow closer and fellowship of other Christians and I feel like
• 1:40:51
  it's important for me personally, before any before
• 1:40:55
  all else, I feel like I need to sort of strengthen my fellowship
• 1:41:01
  with the father God, the father because over, you know, over the
• 1:41:07
  last year. So I feel like I've sort of
• 1:41:08
  straight away from that. and, you know, part of it is is I
• 1:41:13
  kind of I've had health issues in the past year and that's sort
• 1:41:18
  of It kind of like hurt my I guess feeling's like towards God
• 1:41:26
  and some ways and you know, I'm still pretty young in the faith.
• 1:41:28
  I'd even consider myself someone of a baby in Christ.
• 1:41:31
  Still and I feel like I have a lot to grow spiritually and even
• 1:41:36
  mature wise. Um so I want to sort of get
• 1:41:42
  things right in Iron things out before I go on like trying to
• 1:41:45
  find like a family establish a family I'm not sure.
• 1:41:49
  Does that make sense to you here?
• 1:41:50
  Trying to get yourself? Worked up before you get
• 1:41:53
  involved. That's how I feel politicians
• 1:41:55
  should do it before you start messing around.
• 1:41:57
  Everybody else is culture. We fix America first.
• 1:42:00
  That's my attitude about it and it sounds like yours with
• 1:42:03
  yourself. Yeah, we got somebody out here
• 1:42:06
  to start turning dinosaurs. I would like a World of
• 1:42:11
  Warcraft, Triceratops Mount. That's what I think about
• 1:42:14
  dinosaurs. That's what I want.
• 1:42:15
  I want to wrap direct and throw a saddle on and run around with.
• 1:42:19
  All right. So you I remember hearing a
• 1:42:22
  little bit about some of the health, this is you spoke of I
• 1:42:25
  believe Asperger's and autism, they might correct.
• 1:42:28
  There was different. Yes, that's A lifelong thing.
• 1:42:32
  What? I was more referring to so like
• 1:42:35
  obviously I was diagnosed with autism at each three.
• 1:42:38
  Um, However, that wasn't what I referred to, I mean, I could get
• 1:42:42
  into that a little bit if you wanted me to, but I was actually
• 1:42:44
  more so talking about. I actually was diagnosed with
• 1:42:47
  cancer last year, around in a September, and I found in August
• 1:42:53
  crazy. I caught it pretty early, but I
• 1:42:56
  still had to go through treatment chemotherapy to kill
• 1:43:00
  it. And praise God.
• 1:43:02
  I did beat it. But when I was like dealing with
• 1:43:06
  that, I guess like, I felt like, you know, like, Part of me like
• 1:43:13
  there's a small part of me that felt like you know why?
• 1:43:17
  Is like, I, I don't. It sounds bad.
• 1:43:20
  But like, I was kind of feeling like, you know, I feel like I
• 1:43:22
  did something wrong and, you know, I obviously aware of like,
• 1:43:26
  you know, things that I'm not perfect.
• 1:43:28
  Like a lot of Christians are aware of like their
• 1:43:30
  imperfections as a post to Seeing the righteousness of God,
• 1:43:34
  that's been imputed to us, and it's a less mature Christian.
• 1:43:38
  I sort of Saw myself, as you know what, like, I'm focusing on
• 1:43:40
  all these imperfections. I feel like God is punishing me
• 1:43:42
  for everything that I've done and that's partially.
• 1:43:46
  What hurt my relationship with a guy.
• 1:43:48
  What not mystery relationship with my view of God.
• 1:43:54
  And I feel like I need to sort that out, first and foremost.
• 1:43:57
  And there's a lot of other personal issues.
• 1:43:58
  I don't really want to get into, but the cancer stuff really just
• 1:44:03
  Um, I guess like damper a little bit for lack of a better term.
• 1:44:08
  Well, Tucker, I I'm more than happy to talk to you about the
• 1:44:12
  stuff and listen to you. But I got to tell you as a
• 1:44:15
  friend and as well as brother I'll tell you gotta be careful
• 1:44:19
  with some of the personal information.
• 1:44:21
  You put out there, there are there are some very cruel people
• 1:44:25
  called themselves Christians and there's some non-believers out
• 1:44:28
  there who do not like Chris and he will use your vulnerabilities
• 1:44:33
  to hurt you. So be careful with that.
• 1:44:35
  All right. I appreciate the advice and, you
• 1:44:38
  know, Part of it. Like I was really like sensitive
• 1:44:41
  about this stuff but the thing is like over the last couple of
• 1:44:44
  months that kind of like developed this attitude where
• 1:44:46
  you know, what if people aren't gonna like me, that's really
• 1:44:50
  their loss honestly. Like, you know, I really gotta
• 1:44:53
  focus on the people who sent me for I am and if there's people
• 1:44:55
  who like Don't like me because of my views, my Christianity and
• 1:45:00
  they want to use personal things like that against me.
• 1:45:02
  Um, that's really let them do it.
• 1:45:05
  You know, as part of what I've learned about like being on
• 1:45:07
  YouTube and having my own I guess the ministry if you can
• 1:45:12
  call it that is you have to develop thick skin.
• 1:45:15
  If you're going to go out public, you have to have thick
• 1:45:17
  skin and I'll be honest, it's tough.
• 1:45:19
  But you really have to develop like a thick skin almost like,
• 1:45:23
  you know what I mean? I agree.
• 1:45:26
  I agree. Yeah, this tough, get out there
• 1:45:29
  publicly and be in front of the world and talking about your
• 1:45:32
  views and ideas. So you're you're saying that you
• 1:45:35
  were having some issues probably disappointment, even a little
• 1:45:39
  bit of anger. I wouldn't say anger.
• 1:45:49
  And my, and I'll preface it by saying this.
• 1:45:53
  I've grown a little bit in knowledge and wisdom about the
• 1:45:57
  Bible in things that haven't really fully understood even
• 1:46:00
  just as recent as like, maybe it's a couple of months ago.
• 1:46:04
  One of them being that, I'm not sure if you I'm not sure if you
• 1:46:07
  hold to this or not, but I read in John 16 that Jesus, um, you
• 1:46:12
  know, the Holy Spirit proceeds from the father and the son,
• 1:46:15
  that's how I view it, the filioque and when Jesus sent the
• 1:46:20
  comforter to the world, the comforter, the Holy Spirit here,
• 1:46:24
  proves the world of sin. And instead of convicting,
• 1:46:28
  Believers of sin, he convicts us of righteousness.
• 1:46:31
  And what that means. Essentially there's two
• 1:46:33
  different ways in which you could look at it, the Holy
• 1:46:36
  Spirit. If he were to convince us of
• 1:46:37
  sin, he'd be reminding us of our sin in an effort to stop us from
• 1:46:41
  suing. Whereas instead I view it as
• 1:46:44
  what the Bible says, in John 16 where he actually reproves us or
• 1:46:49
  actually can fix us of righteousness.
• 1:46:51
  And what I view that as is God's imputed righteousness towards us
• 1:46:55
  the Holy Spirit, reminding us of our positional status with God
• 1:47:00
  as in you know look you are a child of God and you know, Focus
• 1:47:07
  on the righteousness by which God imputed it to your account
• 1:47:10
  and try to walk in the spirit as opposed to reminding us of our
• 1:47:14
  sin because God doesn't want us to remember our sins.
• 1:47:16
  He doesn't even remember our sins after we become Believers.
• 1:47:19
  So like it, you know, I sort of looked at it as God was like,
• 1:47:24
  shaming you? But that's only because I didn't
• 1:47:25
  really have the full knowledge and wisdom that I had like, and
• 1:47:28
  I still have a lot to learn about the Bible.
• 1:47:30
  That's why I wanted to take this week to read the New Testament.
• 1:47:32
  And then the following week, I wanted to sort of make it like a
• 1:47:36
  30, maybe a 90 day plan to read the Old Testament and I really
• 1:47:40
  want to study the word of God more. so, um, you know Part of
• 1:47:45
  it. Part of my feelings came from a
• 1:47:47
  place of immaturity, like, when I say immaturity and talk about
• 1:47:50
  spiritual immaturity, Looks like we got some new in here.
• 1:47:55
  Hello, Ron, how are you doing? Hello, I'm doing good.
• 1:48:00
  Brett, I was in the chat under the name ropes and 786.
• 1:48:05
  Oh well, nice to meet you. I'm glad you're doing this.
• 1:48:08
  Your mic sounds great, by the way.
• 1:48:11
  Good. Good.
• 1:48:12
  I'm glad you can hear me. Okay.
• 1:48:14
  Is there a way that I can turn the volume up so that I can hear
• 1:48:17
  you guys better? And the only way I can think of
• 1:48:21
  is go down to the speaker icon turned down that way.
• 1:48:24
  And if that doesn't work, even if you bring it to 100, right,
• 1:48:29
  click your properties. Go to enhancements and click.
• 1:48:31
  Check on loudness and bass and it'll bring it up quadruple,
• 1:48:37
  what your volume is. Okay, let's see here.
• 1:48:43
  So Tucker you don't you don't feel like God was punishing you
• 1:48:46
  anymore. That's that's changed.
• 1:48:50
  We know, I don't believe he was punching me because here's the
• 1:48:52
  thing. I don't believe God causes
• 1:48:54
  anything bad to happen to us. I believe that you know
• 1:48:58
  unfortunately it's just a matter of unfortunately unfortunately
• 1:49:02
  circumstances that you know people all over the world get
• 1:49:05
  sick and sadly people, sometimes they're coming to that, you
• 1:49:08
  know, I see it more as like a blessing that God you know put
• 1:49:12
  like I don't I'm not saying he caused it, I'm saying God
• 1:49:14
  blessed me during that time and he was like responsible for my
• 1:49:19
  recovery, I would say and he actually was the comforter
• 1:49:23
  during that time. So like I would say God bless
• 1:49:27
  and I, you know, I I view everything as a blessing from
• 1:49:30
  God, basically, Well, absolutely Tucker and Tucker because of
• 1:49:36
  what you went through, whenever you do, run into people who are
• 1:49:40
  going through suffering, you'll be able to relate with them.
• 1:49:43
  You'll be able to identify and you'll be able to minister to
• 1:49:48
  people because you know where they're coming from.
• 1:49:50
  If you get people who are saying, why am I sick, why am I
• 1:49:53
  hurting? Why, why do I feel this pain?
• 1:49:56
  Why is my life seem? Like it's like, I'm in a trap
• 1:49:59
  sometimes and all this. You're a young man who's
• 1:50:02
  experienced some very hard stuff that even adults shit and have
• 1:50:05
  to go through. But you'll understand you'll be
• 1:50:08
  able to have the discussions with them.
• 1:50:11
  Some people who don't have those experiences, if they hear that
• 1:50:15
  someone had cancer or AIDS or something like that, they freeze
• 1:50:19
  up. They don't know what to say,
• 1:50:20
  they don't know what to do, they have an experience so they don't
• 1:50:25
  even know how to have a conversation with somebody like
• 1:50:27
  that. They could all awkward so
• 1:50:29
  because of that blessing that you call it, you're going to be
• 1:50:32
  able. To talk to more people on a
• 1:50:35
  massive level than others. Could.
• 1:50:39
  Yeah, I would say. So right.
• 1:50:48
  So, our Ron did you manage to get your system working over
• 1:50:52
  there? We'd love to have you
• 1:50:54
  participate in the conversation, if you get it happening.
• 1:50:57
  Oh, I think so. Um, I had to put it on speaker
• 1:51:01
  because I'm doing this with a phone.
• 1:51:02
  Do I sound echoey now or am I all good?
• 1:51:04
  You sound just fine for us if you're having Echo then it would
• 1:51:08
  be on your side and you'd probably have to wear some
• 1:51:10
  headphones or something. If that's happening to you,
• 1:51:12
  we're gonna go. Okay, cool. all right, so Timid
• 1:51:21
  Tucker, you, you said you've gotten through that.
• 1:51:23
  You see things as a blessing, which by the way, that's a very
• 1:51:26
  mature way to look at it. I remember, when I browse young,
• 1:51:29
  if I experienced something bad or terrible, I even asked the
• 1:51:33
  question. What's going on?
• 1:51:34
  Why is this happening yet? You know, we just, we live in a
• 1:51:38
  fallen world and unfortunately, there's anthropy and Corruption
• 1:51:42
  and, and things like that, that unfortunately affect us
• 1:51:46
  physically and sometimes emotionally mentally
• 1:51:48
  spiritually. That's what they can do it.
• 1:51:51
  It's just a realize that God does love us and we're going to
• 1:51:54
  have these experiences. It's inevitable.
• 1:51:57
  We're all going to suffer in some kind of way some of us more
• 1:52:00
  than others. Some people are going to suck
• 1:52:02
  for emotionally some physically, we just got to be strong and
• 1:52:06
  just try to enjoy the roller coaster ride to the end.
• 1:52:11
  Yeah, I think Jesus Put It Best in John 6:33 where he says you
• 1:52:17
  know, we love tribulation but like he overcame the world, you
• 1:52:21
  know, already. So like you know, we have the
• 1:52:24
  power of God on our side and Jesus Christ even said that he
• 1:52:28
  already overcame the world. So like I think like I always
• 1:52:31
  look back to that verse and I sort of executed by going to
• 1:52:35
  first John 2:2, where it says that he's a perpetuation for our
• 1:52:39
  sins and not only ours, but for the sins of the whole world and
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  you know, the way I see it is all of the sins from the
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  beginning to the end of the world.
• 1:52:47
  Jesus already overcame all those sins.
• 1:52:49
  He took it upon himself and he already paid for the sins of the
• 1:52:52
  entire world. So even people aren't even born
• 1:52:54
  today and this is just my interpretation of it, even
• 1:52:57
  people who are going to be born tomorrow their sins have already
• 1:53:00
  been paid for and they already have been taken upon by Jesus At
• 1:53:03
  The Cross. So, like if Jesus could overcome
• 1:53:06
  the world and he overcame tribulation like, you know, I'm
• 1:53:09
  not like a comparing us to Jesus, but you know, if we were
• 1:53:11
  relying him, I believe he will get us through the trials and
• 1:53:15
  tribulations. I need to point out that Smoky
• 1:53:21
  Saint, apparently authenticated himself through YouTube and he's
• 1:53:25
  backstage Smokey, the last message you posted on YouTube to
• 1:53:29
  me was that you don't care if I die or have heart issues or
• 1:53:33
  anything like that, and that you have no interest whatsoever and
• 1:53:37
  having any kind of conversation with me and it was ironic
• 1:53:41
  because I was actually trying to give praise to get you another
• 1:53:44
  opportunity or chance and then you just threw me under the bus.
• 1:53:48
  So, I don't think that I'm interested, I'm going to let you
• 1:53:51
  keep your word and not not talk to me because you obviously
• 1:53:55
  don't care about me or many other questions out there.
• 1:53:58
  So nothing thank you. Let's see.
• 1:54:03
  There we go. I'm sorry Tucker.
• 1:54:05
  I'm not gonna be letting that guy get up here, because he'll
• 1:54:08
  probably drive a wedge, our new, and all, so attack me as well.
• 1:54:12
  I'm not really interested in that he can make his own show,
• 1:54:15
  and stream my show and talk about me for the next three
• 1:54:18
  hours if you like, Show, you know, obviously got to do it
• 1:54:23
  best for you. Oh, when someone wishes death
• 1:54:27
  apart me and pain and all that, in a loss of my love.
• 1:54:30
  When I don't really know what to say about all that looks like,
• 1:54:34
  that sounds like anger issues, right there.
• 1:54:36
  And that's something ought to take up with God on, you know
• 1:54:39
  what I mean? You know, 100% I mean I'm sorry
• 1:54:42
  you went through that obviously you know it's her, you know, I
• 1:54:45
  as like thick skin as we can be, it certainly hurtful like we
• 1:54:50
  still are at the end of their human beings.
• 1:54:51
  We have emotions and it's hurtful to say to hear that
• 1:54:54
  stuff to say the least. Right.
• 1:54:56
  All right. I agree with you.
• 1:54:59
  I agree with you. Oh goodness gracious.
• 1:55:03
  So he said, you've been trying to work on yourself and kind of
• 1:55:08
  prepare yourself before getting involved with a family or
• 1:55:12
  anything like that. Has ever crossed your mind that
• 1:55:14
  if you were to find you a spouse or get something relationship,
• 1:55:18
  that person might actually be extra helpful for you in your
• 1:55:23
  journey. you know, it has, um, It certainly has, I would say
• 1:55:29
  that. Yeah, my wife, she if I met my
• 1:55:35
  wife, whenever I was around, 17, 18 years old and we've been
• 1:55:39
  together ever since I'm 48, I'll be probably 49 right on
• 1:55:44
  Christmas. That's where my birthday rolls
• 1:55:46
  in and I couldn't imagine what existence would have been like
• 1:55:51
  but without her you know set me straight and keeping me on this.
• 1:55:54
  Hey Ron, welcome back. Did you get your system fixed?
• 1:56:00
  Yeah, I did. And I would any of the advice
• 1:56:04
  that I would have would be that if somebody shows up just
• 1:56:08
  because you're trying to get your personal life together,
• 1:56:11
  don't don't discount them as a partner if you feel a connection
• 1:56:16
  with them because sometimes that could end up being the right one
• 1:56:19
  for you. 100%, I agree 100% And I appreciate the advice I really
• 1:56:26
  do. Hmm.
• 1:56:30
  I feel kind of bad Tucker. I feel a little bit bad about
• 1:56:33
  something. Um, did you want to share with
• 1:56:38
  us? Yeah, doctor it actually
• 1:56:40
  involves you, you came into a room yesterday.
• 1:56:43
  And somebody was really cruel to you, and mean and nasty, and I
• 1:56:48
  sat there like a puss and didn't say anything.
• 1:56:50
  I didn't defend, you didn't know you.
• 1:56:53
  Well, enough to be able to figure out how to deal with it.
• 1:56:56
  But I I feel disappointed in myself because I shouldn't have
• 1:57:00
  allowed you to get dumb like that, I was in a room and then,
• 1:57:05
  surprisingly, you stepped in, and this person just they were
• 1:57:09
  completely hateful. And, you know, calling you all
• 1:57:12
  kinds of cuss words, about same time, pretending to be Chris and
• 1:57:16
  I just feel disappointed myself. I hope you forgive me for not
• 1:57:20
  standing up like a brother should.
• 1:57:23
  Well, you know, you know, I don't I 100% forgive you.
• 1:57:27
  I don't You know, you don't need to apologize.
• 1:57:30
  Um, you know, I'll be honest. Like I, I always like, I don't,
• 1:57:36
  I just found you like the other day when you come to it on my
• 1:57:39
  video. Um, and I didn't know who you
• 1:57:42
  were. I actually haven't heard of you
• 1:57:44
  before. But like, when I actually first
• 1:57:46
  met, yeah, I think it was yesterday when I came into your
• 1:57:49
  room. You know, I was like, you know,
• 1:57:51
  this um, brat this brat person, like he's really cool.
• 1:57:54
  Like, I like him. He's like, you know, I you had
• 1:57:58
  nothing to apologize for um you know, when I went on for like 20
• 1:58:02
  something minutes I should I should have stepped up.
• 1:58:06
  I don't I don't normally let people abuse other people like
• 1:58:10
  that whether it's on social media or in real life, And I'm
• 1:58:15
  here, you know, I'm getting to know you more and the more I get
• 1:58:18
  to know you and September. I realize my goodness.
• 1:58:20
  I I can't just sit there and let people do that to each other.
• 1:58:24
  There's that's just, not the way I roll, so I want to apologize.
• 1:58:28
  I know you say that you didn't take a personal or whatever, but
• 1:58:32
  damn, I should have stepped up. It.
• 1:58:35
  Well, you know, I appreciate you saying that, you know.
• 1:58:36
  Um, I'll be honest, you know, I didn't conduct myself in the
• 1:58:40
  best way either. So I take responsibility for
• 1:58:42
  that and perhaps I should have left more sooner, I probably
• 1:58:47
  should have left much sooner and it, perhaps maybe I shouldn't
• 1:58:51
  have gotten involved at all, but you know, that's just sort of
• 1:58:55
  like the sort of like, you know, flaw that I'm still working out.
• 1:58:58
  You know, when I hear my name mentioned, I'm like oh, you know
• 1:59:00
  I kind of want to not necessarily like get into like
• 1:59:04
  an argument or anything like that.
• 1:59:05
  But more, so just like talk to the person, you know, not my
• 1:59:08
  name's brought up, I just like to sort of engage with the
• 1:59:11
  person but Um obviously you know, I'll be, I'll be honest, I
• 1:59:15
  didn't handle things the best way either, but I appreciate you
• 1:59:20
  saying that right. You know, it does mean a lot to
• 1:59:22
  me that you're you know, we you and I are connecting on this
• 1:59:25
  level and I really appreciate it.
• 1:59:27
  So good. Well, it's not as long as you
• 1:59:30
  visit my show or if I come on your show and all that.
• 1:59:33
  Like that, I'm gonna promise you right now that the people are
• 1:59:38
  not going to be able to come in here and and do my guests like
• 1:59:41
  God, or do you like that doctor. Now while I'm in proximity to be
• 1:59:47
  able to hear and click the mic or whatever.
• 1:59:49
  So this letting you know, man. Appreciating.
• 1:59:53
  And by the way, I don't do a lot of live streams.
• 1:59:55
  Um, and usually, when I do, I never I don't usually open it up
• 1:59:59
  to be quite honest, but with that said, you're always welcome
• 2:00:03
  on my channel, you always welcome, the comment, your
• 2:00:05
  thoughts or anything like that. Um, and you're always welcome
• 2:00:10
  to, obviously, when I'm doing a stream, you're always, welcome
• 2:00:12
  to hang out there as well. Um, and yeah, I mean, you know,
• 2:00:17
  I hope, you know, too. I will never act the way I acted
• 2:00:21
  last night. Any of your guests, like, I'll
• 2:00:24
  always be cordial and I can say, over 100% because it's like,
• 2:00:27
  everyone you have on here is like pretty cordial towards one
• 2:00:30
  another. And you know, that's something I
• 2:00:32
  appreciate ya, the rooms open to the verse group, anybody can
• 2:00:37
  come in and talk, doesn't matter what their views and ideas are.
• 2:00:40
  Providing that the intention or agenda isn't too, just simply be
• 2:00:45
  destructive and chaotic which I mean, we both know what would
• 2:00:49
  have happened if I had to let that that fellow.
• 2:00:52
  Up on the screen, he would probably win at you.
• 2:00:54
  Me and all that when we would have got condemned for being too
• 2:00:57
  fat, too ugly, too stupid, whatever, you know something
• 2:01:03
  clicked in me yesterday, you know?
• 2:01:06
  I realized that like it was a, I believe it was like in the
• 2:01:09
  morning for me because like, I'm Eastern, you know, Standard
• 2:01:14
  time. So I was like three in the
• 2:01:15
  morning for me and like, I was like, you know what, Let It Go.
• 2:01:19
  Like, don't respond, don't try to, for lack of a better term.
• 2:01:25
  Take any like Vengeance by making a response video or
• 2:01:27
  anything like that? I was like, Let It Go.
• 2:01:29
  Um, and that's sort of plays back into, you know, you gotta
• 2:01:33
  have thick skin. Like, there's a lot of people
• 2:01:35
  criticized me, and my friends on here, like my friends.
• 2:01:38
  And I like, and I don't really, I'm not gonna need names.
• 2:01:41
  Like I have friends on on this platform and like, we get
• 2:01:44
  attacked a lot. But like, the thing I've learned
• 2:01:47
  from my other friends is like, damn, they don't get into with
• 2:01:51
  people and it's like, you know what, I kind of want to Come on
• 2:01:54
  and be like that, too. Yeah I totally get it and as far
• 2:01:59
  as people mention in your name and you want to see what's going
• 2:02:01
  on I have that same issue. If I if somebody lets me know I
• 2:02:06
  said Brad there's some people talking about you I'm like oh I
• 2:02:09
  I'm sure it's all wonderful stuff.
• 2:02:11
  Sure I gotta go check that out. Usually takes me about a couple
• 2:02:14
  minutes once I hear a couple personal attacks, I'm like,
• 2:02:17
  okay, beautiful. I'm gonna go play my Xbox now.
• 2:02:21
  Yeah, you've been through hell on that front of Brett.
• 2:02:26
  I remember in the Golden Age of YouTube, I was small fried
• 2:02:31
  Channel. You probably won't.
• 2:02:32
  Even remember me, I was called Unit, R1 or United one, I have a
• 2:02:37
  really small Channel, but I would interact with people like
• 2:02:40
  you and Vaughn, helping and Crosses board and Tommy from the
• 2:02:44
  Bronx on Stick app. and man, they put you through hell and I
• 2:02:49
  never did think that was right but it was part of the reason
• 2:02:52
  why I pulled most of my personal information from YouTube and
• 2:02:55
  other side because I saw what they put you through, A lot of
• 2:03:00
  people actually told me that run.
• 2:03:01
  They said Brad after seeing what you went through.
• 2:03:05
  I don't think I want to even make a YouTube channel.
• 2:03:08
  I don't even think I want to connect because this isn't the
• 2:03:11
  one I'm looking for. I just want to socialize, I
• 2:03:14
  don't want to be abused. So it sounds like you made a
• 2:03:17
  good decision. I'd love to be able to sit here.
• 2:03:19
  And tell everybody, oh, you should join YouTube.
• 2:03:22
  I'd love to talk to you. Well, if you did join YouTube
• 2:03:25
  and you put your face out there and your real name like I do.
• 2:03:28
  You're gonna get hammered because there's people that'll
• 2:03:31
  just look at your face and say, I just want to punch it.
• 2:03:34
  I just want to punch it, you know, just for no reason
• 2:03:37
  whatsoever. So Ron you, you were around
• 2:03:41
  during crosses board my goodness.
• 2:03:43
  I haven't heard that name in a long time.
• 2:03:44
  Von help. I think he still around.
• 2:03:47
  He used to come in the room and argue for Flat Earth and saying
• 2:03:52
  that he's gonna like a crate. Some spells to create a barrier
• 2:03:56
  of spirituality around the United States and protect us
• 2:03:59
  from the porters and all that guy.
• 2:04:05
  But you know he got put through a lot of shit part my language.
• 2:04:08
  He got put through a lot of stuff too.
• 2:04:10
  His personal life. Yeah he did.
• 2:04:13
  He's he went through a lot of aggravation.
• 2:04:16
  I ended up connecting with him more and I told him that he's
• 2:04:20
  more than welcome to come in but unfortunately I think as an
• 2:04:24
  older man I I think that they health is start and go away.
• 2:04:28
  A forum and he finds himself only talking about drama and
• 2:04:34
  trolling all the time and can't have like a healthy
• 2:04:38
  conversation. Like we're having right now.
• 2:04:40
  So I don't want to put him through that.
• 2:04:42
  I just tell him look man, do your thing over and Rumble but
• 2:04:46
  you know, we can't have it over here.
• 2:04:49
  It's just too much. It's over.
• 2:04:51
  Another one that I think might have aged out was Lucinda. 066,
• 2:04:55
  if you remember him. The name sounds familiar.
• 2:05:00
  I'm like a lot of Christians. I'm good at the faces, but not
• 2:05:03
  really good with the names. He was an older man and he was a
• 2:05:07
  very devout. He was a satanic priest now.
• 2:05:15
  I remember him. Yes, yes, he was very
• 2:05:17
  distinctive in his luck, but you do realize, a lot of satanists
• 2:05:21
  are there either bald? Or they have really long heavy
• 2:05:24
  metal here, Cuts bald, because they want to kind of mimic
• 2:05:28
  LaVey, you know, there's satanic leader.
• 2:05:32
  You know, right? Yeah, he was actually, from what
• 2:05:36
  I remember, he was more respectful than a lot of the
• 2:05:39
  other ones. And you mentioned Tommy from the
• 2:05:42
  Bronx, me and Tommy were really close for a while there.
• 2:05:44
  But one day, I woke up and I went over to his channel and he
• 2:05:48
  apparently decided he wanted to become a musician.
• 2:05:51
  He got him acoustic guitar and started singing songs about all
• 2:05:56
  kinds of weird sexual positions for me.
• 2:05:58
  And I'm like, oh Tommy, that's what are you doing, man?
• 2:06:02
  I was there for you. When you were in the hospital
• 2:06:03
  and you were sick and now you're basically calling me a
• 2:06:07
  cocksucker, no offense, ladies and gentlemen, but that's what
• 2:06:10
  he did to me. That was hard.
• 2:06:11
  I didn't know you guys ever fell out, because I remember early
• 2:06:16
  on, when people were trying to have kicked off of YouTube and
• 2:06:20
  stuff, like he was one of the ones that tried to speak up on
• 2:06:22
  your behalf, but then they just attacked him too.
• 2:06:25
  He was a wonderful, very, very close friend and stuff.
• 2:06:29
  Like I like I said, like Mr. Tucker over there.
• 2:06:33
  There's some people were just rolls right off your bat, but I
• 2:06:36
  got to admit tears were had when Tommy turned on me like that.
• 2:06:41
  I did actually, I told my wife and had tears my eyes, I said,
• 2:06:45
  my goodness, he's such a good man, he's always been so great
• 2:06:49
  and had such a good moral foundation for him to do that.
• 2:06:52
  It was horrible. We did later on, we talked and
• 2:06:56
  he apologized and all that, but he kind of never forget
• 2:06:59
  something like that. Yeah, so you know, I told him
• 2:07:05
  last thing I said to him, as I hope your health and proves, I I
• 2:07:09
  hope that God, you have all the success that you can and your
• 2:07:13
  family and all that, but I just don't need that in my life
• 2:07:16
  anymore. So that was rough.
• 2:07:18
  Been a long time though. Been some time.
• 2:07:20
  I hope he's still alive. I've been worried about a friend
• 2:07:24
  of mine named Adam, Lauren a couple others guy called John
• 2:07:28
  Wayne. They sing out me a lot.
• 2:07:30
  They disappeared. From social media, which is not
• 2:07:33
  like them. I think something unfortunate
• 2:07:36
  may have happened. Yeah, usually people that have
• 2:07:41
  been out there for a long time, if they just disappear without a
• 2:07:44
  word either, they've been being really badly harassed.
• 2:07:46
  I couldn't take it anymore or something bad happening like
• 2:07:50
  with their health. Yeah, Adam had already pointed
• 2:07:54
  out. He was having health issues, and
• 2:07:56
  last I heard from John, he went through, he was, he put himself
• 2:08:00
  in a really hard situation, Tucker, checked us out.
• 2:08:06
  This, this is going to shock you.
• 2:08:07
  He was basically going along with Jewish Traditions, but he
• 2:08:12
  married a hardcore Muslim woman. You see what I mean?
• 2:08:18
  That's right, but can you even imagine such a couple?
• 2:08:21
  She was beautiful, wonderful, and all that and fun to talk to
• 2:08:25
  you, and very nice. But if you try to speak against
• 2:08:30
  her views or ideologies, or try preaching any Judaism or
• 2:08:34
  Christianity to her, she got hot and bothered over that.
• 2:08:38
  So I couldn't imagine being in an unevenly yoked relationship
• 2:08:43
  like that. Ooh, Say What rhymes?
• 2:08:51
  I'm sorry. You guys cut off.
• 2:08:54
  We well, he was we accidentally cut each other off.
• 2:08:57
  You go ahead first Tucker. I'll wait, yes.
• 2:08:59
  Sorry about that. I was saying, yeah, it's hard
• 2:09:01
  like, you know this but some people get through it but yeah,
• 2:09:06
  I apologize. Oh no, no problem man.
• 2:09:10
  Sometimes with these sort of chats we just both get to go in
• 2:09:14
  at the same time. What I was going to say was It's
• 2:09:18
  a wonder that the men in that lady's family.
• 2:09:23
  Actually approved the message. If she was that religious, I
• 2:09:27
  would assume that the males and her family would be too and they
• 2:09:30
  wouldn't have wanted them to get together.
• 2:09:32
  I don't know if the family approved or not, this was a kind
• 2:09:36
  of a weird thing Ron where my buddy John he basically went on
• 2:09:40
  kind of a trip or he wanted to visit different countries.
• 2:09:44
  He ends up meeting with the woman and somehow man's to get
• 2:09:47
  her ported over to the United States where he lived.
• 2:09:51
  And I think it was New York was last place, he was staying.
• 2:09:54
  So she wasn't around her family to, you know, to influence it in
• 2:10:00
  any kind of way. And I don't even know if your
• 2:10:02
  family. I mean, when I say Muslim woman,
• 2:10:04
  I'm talking, you know, Saudi Arabia type of Iran, type of
• 2:10:09
  thing, she was all Full Throttle.
• 2:10:11
  She was the real deal and everything, not some kind of
• 2:10:14
  Americanized something, so I'm I asked him.
• 2:10:20
  I said, how did you do that? I mean, she's absolutely
• 2:10:23
  beautiful John, but my goodness. He she's like complete opposite
• 2:10:28
  of your spectrum and he would joke opposite to track, right?
• 2:10:32
  So I hope so, I sure hope. So, was this John ever a
• 2:10:37
  YouTuber? Oh yeah.
• 2:10:38
  Yeah, he was known as jdubs for a while there.
• 2:10:43
  Did he did he also ever go buy a name?
• 2:10:46
  Big evasive was to see a Canadian guy.
• 2:10:49
  No, no, he was a New Yorker, you know, he had the whole Italian
• 2:10:54
  accent and all that little little chubby guy once he got
• 2:10:57
  into duty as him, though he ended up growing his beard out
• 2:11:00
  and all that. And coming Mr. Nick Beard is
• 2:11:04
  what we used to be selling one. He must have converted to
• 2:11:08
  Orthodox Judaism, where they have to have that beard.
• 2:11:11
  Yeah. I don't know exactly what
• 2:11:16
  completely got him into it, but he would come over.
• 2:11:19
  He started coming in the stick cam, right?
• 2:11:21
  Before we shut stick him down because it got turned into a
• 2:11:24
  porn site. Now, we didn't know it was going
• 2:11:27
  to become porn site Tucker at the somebody bought it up,
• 2:11:30
  turned it into a nasty chat or whatever, but we got out of
• 2:11:33
  there and stuff around that time.
• 2:11:35
  But John, he started, he was basically, at the end of the
• 2:11:39
  conversation and I encouraged him to talk to me, was a young
• 2:11:43
  man who had a lot of depression. A lot of things going on his
• 2:11:46
  life. He at the time, he was living
• 2:11:48
  with his mom and his sister, and he just needed a friend.
• 2:11:52
  He needs to my list to him. I tried to be there for him, and
• 2:11:55
  he started his life just really, really improved.
• 2:11:58
  And then suddenly got hooked up with the muscle woman.
• 2:12:01
  Like I said, she was sweet. But passionate, you know what I
• 2:12:05
  mean? See there.
• 2:12:06
  He was like a wall. yeah, I mean You know, I think it's great
• 2:12:14
  that you were there for him and you know, it's certainly must
• 2:12:17
  have helped him and significant ways.
• 2:12:19
  So it, you know, a lot of us don't realize it but we could
• 2:12:22
  have a significant impact on someone that we don't even
• 2:12:24
  realize. um, one of my friends taught me that and she was
• 2:12:29
  talking to me like, you know, Some people just don't know like
• 2:12:33
  how much of an impact they might have on others and I'm sure I've
• 2:12:37
  been in that similar situation, not even realize.
• 2:12:39
  Um, yeah, it's interesting to hear it's very nice when you do
• 2:12:44
  have a positive impact on someone Well, I feel kind of bad
• 2:12:48
  for people on the internet. They're Tucker and Ron because
• 2:12:52
  Ronald tell you since he obviously was there back in the
• 2:12:57
  day. I've always been the type of
• 2:12:59
  guy, even whenever I wasn't religious and I was a farmer
• 2:13:02
  8th. Yes, I always had this desire to
• 2:13:05
  be friendly to people, no matter what they believed in thought
• 2:13:08
  and I wanted to get to know people, it wasn't just about
• 2:13:11
  debates or arguing or who's a smartest too who's God's
• 2:13:16
  favorite little primate and all that kind of attitude.
• 2:13:18
  I'm really wanting to get to know people and have enjoyable
• 2:13:21
  relationships and communication. As we're other people on both
• 2:13:26
  sides, they just simply wanted to kick the shit out of each
• 2:13:29
  other every minute of the day so they can feel good at the end of
• 2:13:33
  it. I'm like why I mean even as a
• 2:13:36
  former non-believer, I didn't think I was going to get
• 2:13:38
  rewarded for it. Like something was like a
• 2:13:41
  Christmas present was going to drop in my hand for yelling at
• 2:13:44
  people why you even bother arguing or fighting like that,
• 2:13:47
  why it's never gonna go anywhere?
• 2:13:50
  You follow me wrong. Oh, yeah.
• 2:13:53
  And I mean, you you've always had a good heart and I mean,
• 2:13:57
  you're even cordial to this day. As far as I know, with some of
• 2:14:02
  the people that that kind of, did you dirty?
• 2:14:05
  I mean, I don't want to call anybody out.
• 2:14:07
  But like in particular, one of the bigger ones was the guy that
• 2:14:13
  goes by the moniker, The Amazing Atheist.
• 2:14:15
  He's still on YouTube and, you know, him and Brett had a lot of
• 2:14:19
  falling falling out. But to this day, if they come
• 2:14:24
  across each other in a show or whatever, they are still polite
• 2:14:27
  with each other, even though what happened happened, Yeah.
• 2:14:31
  Actually you probably heard by now but I did end up going up on
• 2:14:35
  their show for a little bit and of course it turned out exactly
• 2:14:39
  the way anybody would have guessed.
• 2:14:40
  It would try to do the nice routine.
• 2:14:43
  I tried to just be chill and have a good kind of conversation
• 2:14:46
  but they were looking to draw blood, that's what they wanted.
• 2:14:50
  Um, I kind of missed out on the whole drunken peasants era of
• 2:14:55
  stuff, like I was busy doing other stuff, but I know that
• 2:14:59
  TJ's no longer a part of that either because I have recently
• 2:15:02
  started following his channel again and he's She's no longer
• 2:15:06
  with that group either. I, I don't know why, but I was
• 2:15:10
  one of the big reasons why Iran Oh, would you like to hear why?
• 2:15:15
  Sure. So what was happening, a lot of
• 2:15:18
  people ask me the same question all the time and I kind of got
• 2:15:21
  into the routine it just responding and answering it.
• 2:15:25
  So be it. What happened was is that they
• 2:15:27
  were constantly making podcasts and shows like somebody does to
• 2:15:32
  me and Tucker sometimes at a smoky fella and they would
• 2:15:36
  stream my videos and then they would make fun of the way I
• 2:15:39
  looked at fat, loser and all that weird, because they're all
• 2:15:43
  fat, but they did that to me. So they streamed it and attack
• 2:15:48
  attack attack and all that. Well, I realized that they had
• 2:15:51
  gotten into the routine where they weren't even watching the
• 2:15:55
  video first, they just play it. Well, something interesting
• 2:15:58
  happened, Ron apparently went to former members or or fans of
• 2:16:03
  that show. Came to me on Discord.
• 2:16:06
  One day. I don't know if you guys are
• 2:16:07
  familiar with Discord, are you? Yeah. okay, so what they did was
• 2:16:12
  they said Brett Doesn't bother you that, they keep on attacking
• 2:16:15
  and I said why this ignore them and they go.
• 2:16:18
  Well, would you like something interesting and all that and I
• 2:16:21
  go, what do you mean and they go?
• 2:16:22
  Did you know that the guy who's running the actual podcast?
• 2:16:25
  The Ben guy, he, he messes around with underage girls that
• 2:16:31
  are fans of the show. I I did hear something about
• 2:16:34
  that. Yeah, so I was like, listen, I
• 2:16:37
  told them, I said, look, just because I don't like them
• 2:16:39
  doesn't mean I'm gonna start making accusations and stuff and
• 2:16:43
  they go, but we got evidence. I said, oh you do oh, so they
• 2:16:47
  gave a pictures and images and some videos stuff showing that
• 2:16:52
  he was messing around and being way too nice.
• 2:16:55
  If you know what I mean with so many young girls and they also
• 2:16:58
  for some reason he apparently did this out in public on his
• 2:17:01
  own Discord where he was flirting and they go and buy the
• 2:17:06
  way he was in a relationship at the same time.
• 2:17:08
  So what I did was I put all that stuff up in the video. and the
• 2:17:13
  next time they streamed it to their audience, To be seen all
• 2:17:18
  the pictures, all the videos, all the images they should check
• 2:17:21
  first but they didn't. And what happened was has been
• 2:17:25
  panicked and he ended up deleting an entire three-hour
• 2:17:28
  podcast at the Amazing Atheist had participated in them.
• 2:17:31
  This made TJ angry because TJ's a lazy man and doesn't like it
• 2:17:36
  when three hours of this time is wasted.
• 2:17:38
  So him Paul and the brother Scotty, they kicked his ass off
• 2:17:42
  the podcast and went on to the Deep Fat fried, where they
• 2:17:46
  control the game. Got it.
• 2:17:48
  So I wow I was one of the big reasons for why that show fell
• 2:17:53
  apart. You know, that was their choice.
• 2:17:57
  Did anything legal ever come of it?
• 2:17:59
  Oh the, it was difficult because the underage issue, the guy who
• 2:18:05
  was running the podcast didn't live, I think in America or in a
• 2:18:10
  certain area where they were under the same laws as us.
• 2:18:13
  It would be like trying to convict somebody that lives in
• 2:18:16
  Europe or Canada. It's a mess you go.
• 2:18:19
  Yeah jurisdiction. Yes, exactly.
• 2:18:23
  Tucker. I'm sorry for having to put up
• 2:18:26
  the drama? I'm sure it's still as hell for
• 2:18:28
  you, but That's the story. Ancient history, doctor.
• 2:18:35
  He's still there. You're gonna gets around.
• 2:18:38
  Boy. Yeah, you you came on the scene.
• 2:18:46
  Back what probably 2000 2001 about 15 20 years ago, right
• 2:18:55
  before YouTube got in Google, got bought up.
• 2:18:58
  I think that's one of the reasons.
• 2:19:00
  You know, people say Brad. How do you think you got so
• 2:19:02
  popular back then? And I said, well, during when I
• 2:19:06
  first started people were doing cat videos and durables and
• 2:19:10
  saved the puppy type of videos and all that.
• 2:19:13
  And then some big old headed, son of a gun like myself, get up
• 2:19:16
  there and start running my mouth like Stone Cold, Steve Austin.
• 2:19:19
  It was crazy. Shocked the hell out of people.
• 2:19:22
  So yeah I can understand why back then I was like a surprise
• 2:19:26
  for everybody but nowadays you got a bunch of looms just like
• 2:19:30
  myself run their mouths you know on podcast.
• 2:19:32
  So you know there's more competition I wish you could
• 2:19:36
  have seen the Tucker. You would have loved it.
• 2:19:38
  YouTube was a lot different back, then it was all about
• 2:19:40
  vlogging, and you can talk pretty much about whatever you
• 2:19:43
  wanted. They didn't censor you.
• 2:19:44
  It was amazing. Oh yeah, I was a young kid
• 2:19:49
  actually, but I do remember, even as recent as like, 2007 was
• 2:19:54
  when I saw YouTube. And there's a lot of things
• 2:19:56
  about YouTube, like they didn't really adhere to like copyright
• 2:20:00
  infringement. Not to accept it to do today.
• 2:20:02
  Like, I don't know if you remember that, but they
• 2:20:07
  certainly enough as many restrictions as they had to
• 2:20:09
  remember. As a kid.
• 2:20:09
  I really enjoyed YouTube and there's much different than it
• 2:20:11
  was, then it is today. Oh yeah, they were much bigger
• 2:20:16
  on the free usage part of copyright.
• 2:20:18
  You can use You can use bits and pieces of stuff or even longer
• 2:20:23
  pieces of stuff and if it was relevant to the video, you were
• 2:20:26
  making they wouldn't copyright strike you. well I I used to be
• 2:20:32
  angry at YouTube for the way they they treated me as well as
• 2:20:36
  many other vloggers on all different sides, but I've been
• 2:20:40
  doing a lot of research and I looked into Finding out that
• 2:20:43
  YouTube literally it almost any given moment to have hundreds of
• 2:20:47
  thousands of lawsuits against them.
• 2:20:49
  So they had to do the copyright, the content ID and all this
• 2:20:54
  other stuff in order to protect their business and that's how
• 2:20:58
  it's going. They do a terrible job at
• 2:21:00
  dealing with people who harass each other through this and
• 2:21:04
  docks dropping though. They do.
• 2:21:07
  It's almost like they don't care about how the users get treated
• 2:21:11
  as long as it's not legally affecting the company right?
• 2:21:14
  Exactly. Well I don't know if you guys
• 2:21:17
  are a fan of trump or anything but supposedly he wrote out of
• 2:21:21
  an executive order that states that Google and every other
• 2:21:25
  Corporation out there. And so some media sites they now
• 2:21:28
  have If a person can prove that they are who they say, they are
• 2:21:34
  through digital ID or something like that, they can upload it to
• 2:21:39
  YouTube and then it'll be used to verify its them and then they
• 2:21:42
  can make a complaint, they can say someone's using artificial
• 2:21:46
  intelligence to make it sound like I'm saying stuff.
• 2:21:48
  I didn't say some personal out, here is a telling everybody
• 2:21:52
  where I work where I live all this kind of stuff in a person
• 2:21:55
  will instantaneously through the algorithm as well as manual and
• 2:22:00
  an AI That's running. Google called Gemini will not
• 2:22:04
  their ass down. So people might want to go
• 2:22:06
  through their older stuff because they're doing the
• 2:22:08
  YouTube but they did the Twitter a while back, you follow.
• 2:22:12
  Yeah. I don't know.
• 2:22:15
  Tucker, how do you feel about Trump?
• 2:22:17
  I don't necessarily like everything that he does but I do
• 2:22:24
  like a lot of what he's done. Like, I'm kind of middle of the
• 2:22:26
  road with him if he does something out like I say so.
• 2:22:29
  But if he does something that I think is good.
• 2:22:31
  I say so a lot of people are polarized on him.
• 2:22:36
  They either love him completely or they hating completely, I'll
• 2:22:41
  be honest and not really, I don't really follow politics as
• 2:22:44
  much as they used to, but I'm kind of that with every single
• 2:22:49
  politician across the board and You know, I don't really have
• 2:22:53
  strong feelings about politics as much.
• 2:22:55
  I used to really probably less stressed that way.
• 2:22:58
  I mean I don't follow it nearly as much as I used to either just
• 2:23:01
  the stuff that happens to pop up on my social media feed.
• 2:23:05
  It makes sense. My My Views are in Trump,
• 2:23:08
  unfortunately, Ron at this point they're kind of declining.
• 2:23:11
  I'm happy with him on what he's trying to do with deportations
• 2:23:16
  and some of the stuff he's doing with business, bringing a lot
• 2:23:19
  more jobs into the country. We definitely need that.
• 2:23:22
  That's fantastic. But my big thing that I wanted
• 2:23:25
  from him was I wanted him to stop the cartel and the human
• 2:23:29
  trafficker curves. That was a big thing.
• 2:23:31
  He rallied about, we have 500,000 children that are
• 2:23:35
  missing that are in sex trafficking, organizations being
• 2:23:38
  used in abuse. And the fact that there's no
• 2:23:41
  transparency when it comes to Epstein, as well as the Ditty
• 2:23:45
  files and all that this really aggravates me and caused me go
• 2:23:49
  Trump. Why aren't even mentioning it
• 2:23:51
  and Pam Bondi cast Patel and the, what's her name?
• 2:23:55
  Yeah, Pam Bondi hospital and bonding or whatever to Hell.
• 2:23:59
  His name is, I always screw it up, trying to pronounce it.
• 2:24:02
  They keep saying that we're, you know, We'll get around to it.
• 2:24:06
  And all that you do realize that these kids are kidnapped,
• 2:24:10
  they're in human trafficking, they're being abused.
• 2:24:13
  Every second, these idiots are doing speeches on Fox News, so
• 2:24:17
  it's pissing me off, but it's a lot better than having a Coke
• 2:24:21
  had like Kamala Harris, running the show where she's a complete
• 2:24:24
  Nutter deranged upside down mop. So, that's what I got to choose
• 2:24:28
  from the greater evil type of thing.
• 2:24:30
  You know what I mean? Yeah, I absolutely do that.
• 2:24:34
  The children thing and I know that you probably know this too
• 2:24:38
  but just didn't mention it. But I mean, it goes.
• 2:24:41
  It goes very dark, it goes into some territory, where some some
• 2:24:44
  of the children I think are even bred for this before they're
• 2:24:48
  born. It's just I'll be honest, I did
• 2:24:56
  actually vote. Um I guess it's I don't know if
• 2:24:59
  I should disclose Hawaiian voted.
• 2:25:01
  I only voted in the primaries last year because I didn't vote
• 2:25:06
  in the general election because here's the thing.
• 2:25:08
  I apply the Western to evils or the last tour of all evils I
• 2:25:13
  guess in the primary season and in the primaries actually wasn't
• 2:25:18
  DeSantis supporter. I voted for Rhonda Santos and
• 2:25:20
  when he didn't get on the nomination I was like I'm just
• 2:25:24
  not gonna vote in general election.
• 2:25:26
  So, so Tucker. I'm not going to give you any
• 2:25:29
  heat for who you vote for, but there are people out there who
• 2:25:33
  listen to the discussion. You might get on to you me, I
• 2:25:36
  think. Ron DeSantis is a good man.
• 2:25:38
  I also like Robert Kennedy Jr. As well.
• 2:25:41
  Good man, even though I have a hard time understanding in the
• 2:25:45
  way he talks. But besides that, those were
• 2:25:47
  good men, they were good. But I didn't think that they had
• 2:25:50
  the balls to be able to do the kind of Destruction that I
• 2:25:53
  needed Trump to do. I wanted Trump to get in there
• 2:25:56
  like a grenade and explode. I wanted things to fly and
• 2:26:00
  that's why I voted for Trump but go ahead. the general election,
• 2:26:04
  like I said, only because, like I just like, I feel like, I
• 2:26:11
  guess my attitude is like, I don't love, like, the last of
• 2:26:14
  two evils. I like to pick someone who I
• 2:26:17
  think is the best overall. And I know they're all evil,
• 2:26:22
  they're all evil. They're they all have their own
• 2:26:24
  agendas and Tents and stop her. When you get older, you're going
• 2:26:28
  to realize there's a pattern with politicians, even the one
• 2:26:31
  who claim that they're Outsiders.
• 2:26:32
  They're all about money and business and all that.
• 2:26:36
  And if you don't believe me, just look at what Trump and the
• 2:26:39
  Santa's doing right now, it's all about money and building
• 2:26:43
  more stupid shit and all that. It's about, you know, gratifying
• 2:26:48
  anybody's life. Ron is your paycheck went up
• 2:26:50
  some You know, my paychecks. Yeah, the paycheck went up.
• 2:26:57
  Have you been personally impacted in a positive way by
• 2:27:00
  any of these idiots even back to Joe Biden, oatmeal for brains as
• 2:27:05
  I know? No actually, because I've been
• 2:27:07
  on. I've actually been on SSI most
• 2:27:10
  of my adult life because I was disabled both on kind of some
• 2:27:15
  mental stuff but physically at around the age of 19, there was
• 2:27:18
  a car wreck And I had hydrocephalus from it and they
• 2:27:23
  had to do brain surgery and that left me with some impairments.
• 2:27:26
  But no, I mean being on SSI, just it sucks.
• 2:27:32
  In general, it's not it's not a good way to have to live your
• 2:27:36
  life because it basically It keeps you poor.
• 2:27:40
  There's certain things that other people can do that.
• 2:27:43
  You're not allowed to do without pedals like You can't get
• 2:27:48
  married. Like, I've been with my partner
• 2:27:50
  for Almost 15 years but we don't dare get married.
• 2:27:54
  Because the way that like tax brackets and stuff work, it
• 2:27:59
  would cut my payments in half and we wouldn't be able to pay
• 2:28:02
  our bills like they do that kind of shit to you and it's a it's a
• 2:28:06
  hell of a way to have to live but we make it work, right?
• 2:28:09
  If you get married, then her taxes her money, it counts
• 2:28:13
  against you as a dependency and you get smoked.
• 2:28:16
  Yeah, that's horrific, but I did get some good news for you Robin
• 2:28:21
  in case you haven't heard about this.
• 2:28:22
  Hopefully it has a personal impact for you but apparently
• 2:28:26
  they're cutting the double tax and Social Security disability,
• 2:28:30
  SSI, all that kind of stuff. And supposedly your income
• 2:28:34
  should bounce up. You can maybe get a few hundred
• 2:28:37
  more dollars a month and all that.
• 2:28:39
  That's if they keep their word and one of his stupid liberals,
• 2:28:42
  don't get in the way of the past, in the Bell.
• 2:28:44
  I'll tell you what. I would love to see change Brett
• 2:28:48
  with the SSI, not just for me, but for everybody else has to
• 2:28:51
  live on It is the 2000 dollar asset limit, if they would raise
• 2:28:57
  that or a bullish it. So people on the system can have
• 2:29:01
  more than 2000 in their total assets.
• 2:29:03
  That'd be a game changer because they've kept the same since I
• 2:29:07
  believe the 1980s. Well, they're gonna have to,
• 2:29:11
  they brought up the price of everything they have to do that,
• 2:29:15
  especially with all the stupid tariff nonsense that's going on.
• 2:29:18
  It's raising the prices and all the products.
• 2:29:20
  How are you supposed to pay your bills and go grocery shopping if
• 2:29:24
  they don't Exactly, exactly. I'm very fortunate that my
• 2:29:29
  mother, my girlfriend's parents. Are well off.
• 2:29:34
  Like I'm very fortunate that I have a home and that we have a
• 2:29:38
  vehicle because with the asset limits, you are allowed to have
• 2:29:41
  one home and one vehicle. Good luck ever getting it.
• 2:29:44
  If you're trying to finance it yourself, we were very I'm very,
• 2:29:48
  very blessed that her parents are well to do and they they got
• 2:29:52
  us a home a year ago so that's good.
• 2:29:55
  Yeah, it's kind of the same issue I had run whenever I was
• 2:29:59
  young or it was a really difficult.
• 2:30:02
  I was existed around the time where they started telling you
• 2:30:05
  need credit and need all this crap.
• 2:30:07
  Back in the day you used to, you could just walk up the street.
• 2:30:12
  Throw some money in a landlord's hand and you were in a room, the
• 2:30:15
  next moment. But they started doing credit
• 2:30:17
  checks and all this crazy crap. I don't know how young people
• 2:30:21
  survived nowadays with all the Ridiculousness with the economy,
• 2:30:25
  but yeah. What, what ended up happening as
• 2:30:28
  my grandfather? He comes out of nowhere.
• 2:30:30
  I didn't even think he liked me and he said, Brad, I'd like to
• 2:30:35
  help you and your wife out and all that.
• 2:30:36
  And I'm like, really, you know, what is the Christmas did I miss
• 2:30:40
  my birthday or something here? What's going on here?
• 2:30:42
  And he said, I want to put you up in a place.
• 2:30:45
  I want to put you up in a home. I'm like, what?
• 2:30:48
  So he did. He put us up in a place but he
• 2:30:52
  did tell me that I need to take care of the property tax and
• 2:30:56
  all, so pay him until a certain amount is, oh, so it wasn't like
• 2:31:00
  a free ordeal or anything like that.
• 2:31:02
  Sure. He had this thing where he was
• 2:31:05
  wanting to buy one to real estate and put people up in it,
• 2:31:09
  and I was one of the people he thought of, so it's like, oh,
• 2:31:12
  Cool. So it wasn't like you're my
• 2:31:14
  grandkids. Let me take care of you.
• 2:31:15
  Some kind of thing. He just he wanted to get
• 2:31:18
  somebody in the spot. Me and my wife were available to
• 2:31:20
  do it, but we think of it as a blessing, we don't give him any
• 2:31:24
  heat over. How about you Tucker?
• 2:31:30
  How are things going for you on that front?
• 2:31:33
  You gotta you got a roof over your head at least and have your
• 2:31:37
  your resources taken care of? Yeah, I do.
• 2:31:40
  I'm, you know, fortunate to have that unfortunately.
• 2:31:43
  Some people of course sadly don't have that but you know I'm
• 2:31:48
  happy that I have it you know. I hope the best for everyone all
• 2:31:52
  be too. You know everybody deserves that
• 2:31:55
  100%. Yeah so we got some buddy out
• 2:32:00
  here called Guardian. He said I was laughed at when I
• 2:32:03
  tried to get us aside. Well, unfortunately, for people
• 2:32:07
  out there, I've heard that it's extremely difficult to get on
• 2:32:10
  these things because they're trying to make sure that the
• 2:32:13
  people are making claims aren't committing fraud.
• 2:32:15
  It's obvious Ron how he describes the he was actually to
• 2:32:19
  a physical acts and suffered from hydrocephalus that these
• 2:32:23
  are things that are so scaredy person wouldn't be able to deny
• 2:32:26
  his issues on that by law. They got to do something to
• 2:32:30
  build him. But if you go up there and say,
• 2:32:33
  man, I got mental Problems. I got pissed.
• 2:32:35
  When I'm making french fries and burgers, give me a check.
• 2:32:37
  They'll tell you to go, screw yourself to wait, it works.
• 2:32:40
  You have to go through a long ass process.
• 2:32:43
  You might even end up homeless before you ever even get any
• 2:32:46
  help. And then, you know what, they're
• 2:32:48
  going to tell you right Ron and say, oh, but you don't have an
• 2:32:52
  address for Stevenson to say sorry.
• 2:32:55
  Yep. What my two big tips for getting
• 2:33:01
  SSI? If you really feel that you need
• 2:33:03
  it, to make sure you have a lot of, make sure you have a large
• 2:33:06
  medical chart of everything going on with you and to get a
• 2:33:11
  lawyer and there's a bunch of them in each state that will do
• 2:33:14
  it. Pro bono, basically, they will
• 2:33:16
  take you and help you win your case.
• 2:33:19
  And you pay them out of your settlement money, which is a
• 2:33:22
  one-time payment that you get. When you first get SSI of the
• 2:33:27
  back months that you're considered disability, that you
• 2:33:30
  were considered disabled, you get a one lump sum and the
• 2:33:33
  lawyer takes part of that. That's how they get paid.
• 2:33:36
  Gentlemen, can you give me a favor?
• 2:33:38
  I got to use the rest area and pour myself some more coffee.
• 2:33:41
  Can you even Tucker carry on a conversation until I get back?
• 2:33:45
  Yeah, sure. So yeah, you know it's nice to
• 2:33:52
  meet Iran. Is there anything on your mind?
• 2:33:55
  no, not in particular, I was just Wanting to get caught up
• 2:34:00
  with Brett and let him know. I I guess I'm still exists out
• 2:34:03
  here and there's somebody from back in the day that saw the
• 2:34:08
  crap and You know, still thinks he's a good guy.
• 2:34:12
  I mean, I would say Brett's a really good guy, you know, he
• 2:34:15
  came to my channel the other day um, calm down one of my videos.
• 2:34:18
  I was a little bit confused, I didn't know who he was first
• 2:34:22
  time I heard of him but he invited me to to chat on his
• 2:34:27
  streamyard. So I went to a stream yard just
• 2:34:29
  yesterday and you know I joined I was like, is there anything
• 2:34:33
  you wanted to talk about me? I was like, you know, I saw your
• 2:34:36
  comment on my video and he was like, yeah.
• 2:34:38
  I just wanted to sort of get to know you that's all and I was on
• 2:34:42
  a panel with like I think five or six other people and it's
• 2:34:46
  like, that's nice, you know. yeah, he he enjoys he's one of
• 2:34:51
  those people that actually enjoys Interacting with folks
• 2:34:55
  and and new folks even like I I don't think the guy could ever
• 2:34:59
  have enough friends. Like, he'll talk to everybody
• 2:35:02
  and he's always Seems genuinely like cares.
• 2:35:07
  So yeah. Yeah, at a grew, 100% B.
• 2:35:11
  I like I said, I don't know him very well.
• 2:35:12
  I just saw him I think a week ago, comment on my video but
• 2:35:16
  like, say I was intrigued to say the least.
• 2:35:19
  Well, he's always been very active in the in the Theology
• 2:35:23
  and philosophy. Realm of things since the early
• 2:35:28
  days and he he started off as an atheist.
• 2:35:31
  I'm sure you've heard yep. And now he's a Christian and I
• 2:35:35
  don't really know the middle part of that because I haven't
• 2:35:37
  been around, but it would be interesting to hear how he how
• 2:35:42
  he changed over time because something similar happened to
• 2:35:46
  me, I I did not end up in the Christian Camp, but I did go
• 2:35:50
  from ACS to my beliefs in God or more based on like They're not
• 2:36:00
  based on really a religion, Minor Baseball on philosophy and
• 2:36:04
  cosmology and personal experience. so, he and I kind of
• 2:36:10
  different a little bit on that, but, um, it's definitely
• 2:36:13
  possible for people to go from an unbelief to some form of
• 2:36:16
  belief. Yeah, I probably missed that
• 2:36:19
  part. What type of these again?
• 2:36:21
  I'm sorry, what? Oh, I'm a theist as in.
• 2:36:25
  I do believe in a Supreme Being I do believe in a God, but I
• 2:36:29
  just don't follow any of the mainstream religions.
• 2:36:32
  My conclusions are more from philosophy and cosmology.
• 2:36:39
  Yeah, so I believe in God more on a philosophical basis rather
• 2:36:43
  than a religious basis. I'm an Evangelical Christian, I
• 2:36:47
  attended Independent Baptist Church in, you know, I, I
• 2:36:51
  generally, I used to call myself all kinds of different labels.
• 2:36:54
  I, I generally just go by Christian, though.
• 2:36:57
  Like, you know, like bread and I were talking about earlier, you
• 2:37:00
  know, it's kind of a lot of people like, it's such a broad
• 2:37:02
  term, you know, you got Pentecostals, you got sinless.
• 2:37:05
  Perfectionist, you got Catholics Protestants.
• 2:37:07
  Orthodox, like all kinds of different labels.
• 2:37:09
  People are gonna try and pinpoint me like, by saying I'm
• 2:37:12
  a Christian. I mean, a lot of different
• 2:37:13
  things. Like, there's Christians like
• 2:37:15
  myself who believe in, you know, like just salvation by people
• 2:37:20
  alone and you know, once you believe in Jesus Christ, you're
• 2:37:22
  safe forever and his other Christians to say, he got turned
• 2:37:24
  from all of your sins and you know, repent of all your sins or
• 2:37:27
  else you can't go to heaven. And it's like there's such a
• 2:37:30
  broad thing in the middle of that where people are gonna ask
• 2:37:32
  me. Like what do you believe what
• 2:37:34
  type of Christian are you? It's like, Definitely complex.
• 2:37:39
  Say, oh yeah, just got back. A was able to hear you guys
• 2:37:42
  while I was doing my thing and stuff and appreciate all the
• 2:37:46
  kind words and all that. I, I don't understand why
• 2:37:49
  anybody would want to bother with social media if they're not
• 2:37:51
  playing, so slice him. Sure.
• 2:37:55
  Appreciate all the compliments. Nice words, people put out
• 2:38:00
  there, not often used to hearing all that.
• 2:38:03
  Oh, makes me blush. But you you said you're
• 2:38:08
  basically a philosophical Christian and Dr. You're having
• 2:38:12
  a hard time with what is referred to a salad bar.
• 2:38:15
  The buffet of all kinds of different tastes right?
• 2:38:20
  I'm a, I'm a philosophical theist.
• 2:38:22
  I'm not a Christian, but I feel But I do, I do believe, there
• 2:38:27
  are a lot of Christians though that God works through.
• 2:38:30
  I I tend to have the belief that God works with people based on
• 2:38:34
  what they know. And if a person's worldview Is
• 2:38:40
  the Christian one I believe God can work with that.
• 2:38:42
  Absolutely. He's good.
• 2:38:45
  Sorry. No, hit it for myself.
• 2:38:49
  I don't have a problem. Like, I don't have like a
• 2:38:51
  difficulty, My Views are like, very sad.
• 2:38:54
  Like, I don't have a difficulty knowing what I believe, I have a
• 2:38:57
  difficulty of like labeling myself, which is why just
• 2:39:00
  recently, I came to the conclusion that I'm just gonna
• 2:39:02
  call myself a Bible believing Christian, I'm not going to
• 2:39:04
  really call myself anything other than that because if you
• 2:39:07
  try to get into these labels, you're inevitably gonna get put
• 2:39:10
  into like a box. It's called they're basically
• 2:39:16
  trying to find find the flaws and then hang the baggage of
• 2:39:21
  whatever that denomination is on your head, you doin', right?
• 2:39:24
  Just say, look, I'm about God, I follow God and, and that's his
• 2:39:28
  book, you know, and, you know, relationship with God, right?
• 2:39:34
  I do have a question though for for both of you because Brett,
• 2:39:37
  you changed Lots since I last followed you as well.
• 2:39:40
  You've gone from atheist Christian.
• 2:39:43
  In regards to the Bible, is it, are you guys literalists like do
• 2:39:50
  you take everything in it literally?
• 2:39:51
  Or do you see some of it as being?
• 2:39:55
  Myths that are meant to teach a deeper spiritual truth.
• 2:39:58
  How do you guys view that I'll put myself in the hot seat
• 2:40:01
  first? They're Tucker.
• 2:40:02
  So you know what? Spot holds the direct.
• 2:40:04
  I'm just kidding Ron. I obviously don't see everything
• 2:40:09
  in the Bible's led to roll some of its Parables.
• 2:40:12
  Jesus himself said, it's a teaching he doesn't mean that
• 2:40:16
  everything is literal. There are many times throughout
• 2:40:18
  the book where people are ministering and they using
• 2:40:22
  analogies or metaphors in order to explain themselves.
• 2:40:25
  And there's some plastic fashion for the followers who were there
• 2:40:29
  to understand. Do I believe that a lot of it is
• 2:40:33
  real? And it happened just as it said,
• 2:40:35
  of course, I believe. Jesus Christ died.
• 2:40:38
  He was tortured hung on the cross resurrected three days
• 2:40:42
  later. Absolutely.
• 2:40:43
  Is he going to return right there?
• 2:40:45
  Yeah, I agree with all that, but yes, there are some things that
• 2:40:50
  you shouldn't take literal. Take it as a teaching or less
• 2:40:53
  and Tucker. Would you like?
• 2:40:55
  To put stuff on Hot Seat. Absolutely, so I'm a King.
• 2:40:58
  James only is which means, I only go by the king users in the
• 2:41:01
  Bible and what that I'm not a rock midnight where like I
• 2:41:04
  believe it's like transliterated in that.
• 2:41:07
  The King James can correct? The Greek transcripts.
• 2:41:10
  I'm instead just of the belief that God can preserve his word
• 2:41:13
  and every single language and cleaning the English language.
• 2:41:15
  So as an English speaker, I go by the KJV.
• 2:41:18
  If I was a Spanish speaker I'd find what I would believe to be
• 2:41:20
  the perfect translation in that language and vice and you know,
• 2:41:24
  all etc, etc. Um I take the Bible, literally,
• 2:41:28
  I would say. There.
• 2:41:30
  What when cars to Parables? I think I tried to sort of take
• 2:41:35
  it for what it is. And so I don't think Parables
• 2:41:40
  necessarily are like made up per se.
• 2:41:44
  I just think it's like a way of sort of conveying.
• 2:41:47
  A different message. Conveying a message, as far as
• 2:41:49
  everything like historical in the Bible, I believe that to be
• 2:41:52
  literal. So like for example, in Genesis,
• 2:41:54
  I do believe that people used to live for a thousand not, there's
• 2:41:59
  no one I live for a thousand years, like 9600 years, the
• 2:42:02
  oldest person who's ever lived was like I think over 900 years
• 2:42:05
  old. Sorry, these name was
• 2:42:09
  Methuselah. yeah, and in, you know, I would say that I do take
• 2:42:16
  that literally and the reason why is because I I'm of the
• 2:42:18
  belief that um in the the Earth before it got flooded, was it
• 2:42:23
  very different is today. So that's why after the flood
• 2:42:27
  people were limited to 120 years and the way I read it is it's
• 2:42:31
  not necessarily saying exactly 120 years because the oldest
• 2:42:35
  person who's lived in the modern day is a woman that lived in
• 2:42:39
  121. So the way I see it is a person
• 2:42:42
  can live no more than like between the 120 years.
• 2:42:45
  So it's like perfectly, but I do take the Bible.
• 2:42:51
  Literally, I am a young Earth creationist, I do believe
• 2:42:53
  everything that happened. Historically speaking did happen
• 2:42:58
  in the Bible. It's interesting, just crazy.
• 2:43:01
  I am actually who was just in here early.
• 2:43:03
  He actually went over on some passages and he'll Testament.
• 2:43:08
  Where talks about how there's a lot of.
• 2:43:10
  Like there's millions and millions like hundred, he said
• 2:43:13
  was like hundreds of millions of sheep were killed.
• 2:43:15
  I feel like into that more because I'll be honest, I
• 2:43:18
  haven't really studied the Old Testament as much as they should
• 2:43:20
  have. But he was basically making the
• 2:43:24
  point where it's like, it's more of a I guess it's more of like,
• 2:43:27
  like, what is that word? I'm looking for hyperbole,
• 2:43:33
  hyperbole, that was the word he used.
• 2:43:35
  I believe, it's like hyperbolic. So it's not like saying it's
• 2:43:38
  like not like, it's like a liar or anything but it's like
• 2:43:41
  hyperbolic sort of enhance the message all, looking into that
• 2:43:47
  sort of Tucker. I'm right on the same page with
• 2:43:51
  you. The things that I'm saying that
• 2:43:53
  are knowledges are metaphors, just real quick, I'll give you
• 2:43:56
  an example. And the book of Isaiah, the
• 2:43:59
  ancient men of the Bible inspired by God, they were
• 2:44:03
  attempting to explain how the workings and processes.
• 2:44:08
  Universe and then Isaiah, they state that the the cosmos
• 2:44:13
  Universe expands like a tent. Now obviously the universe is
• 2:44:17
  not a tent. They're trying to explain how
• 2:44:19
  it's actually opening and spreading and one of the reasons
• 2:44:23
  why we have entropy in their ancient tone of trying to
• 2:44:26
  explain it. So I get, I hope people
• 2:44:29
  understand what I'm saying with that.
• 2:44:30
  It's not a tent, but they're explaining how its opening and
• 2:44:34
  expanding, and how the stars are affected by it.
• 2:44:37
  You get it's almost like they were trying to explain
• 2:44:45
  space-time and how it's used tents.
• 2:44:51
  And so that was the analogy that they used.
• 2:44:54
  Exactly exactly Ron and Ron. I I didn't immediately just like
• 2:45:00
  jump from Atheism in the Christianity.
• 2:45:02
  I need to point that out. I actually for a moment there,
• 2:45:06
  I'd say less than a few months. I actually tickled the idea of
• 2:45:10
  DSM, but the problem was, I ran into too many theists as well as
• 2:45:15
  Christians and people of other face who claimed that they
• 2:45:18
  actually had some kind of experience with God.
• 2:45:20
  So that didn't coincide with the ASM, where God's not
• 2:45:24
  interactive, then I tried pantheism for a little bit, God
• 2:45:28
  is everything, he is the universe and all that, but then
• 2:45:32
  I realized, it doesn't make sense.
• 2:45:33
  If you subscribe to the Big Bang, God would have had to
• 2:45:37
  exist outside the university before it existed, unless he
• 2:45:40
  believe in an eternal State University.
• 2:45:41
  What I'm saying, Absolutely, and the reason that I changed too
• 2:45:48
  was some personal experiences, the atheism could not explain.
• 2:45:56
  I just so far that for a few years I was very nihilistic, I
• 2:46:03
  had lost all hope because if you take atheism to its Natural
• 2:46:08
  conclusion. There's only meaning if you make
• 2:46:11
  it, but there's no ultimate meaning and when you're dead,
• 2:46:15
  it's like you might as well never have been here, very
• 2:46:17
  depressing. Well, you're absolutely correct
• 2:46:20
  Ron. That's where atheism leads to,
• 2:46:23
  it's one of the reasons why I needed to get away from it.
• 2:46:26
  It was physically making me sick because I felt like I had no
• 2:46:30
  objective meaning or purpose in my life, but Ron It can drive
• 2:46:35
  you to Suicide. I don't know if that word is
• 2:46:37
  Gonna Get Us in any trouble because I know that's a heated
• 2:46:40
  word. So I'm sorry.
• 2:46:41
  Did you know Ron that atheists? Had the highest suicide rate on
• 2:46:46
  the planet even over pagans and Muslims and Buddhists.
• 2:46:50
  That's not surprising. I mean if you take it to its
• 2:46:52
  logical conclusion, there's no point in being here.
• 2:46:56
  Continue on Ron. I apologize for interrupting
• 2:47:00
  you. Know, I mean, I, I'm a fist.
• 2:47:05
  I I'm not a Christian because for me and this is not a
• 2:47:10
  judgment on you guys. I only asked questions not to
• 2:47:13
  debate, but to understand where you're at. for me, the Bible is
• 2:47:19
  more like a pathology like it's a It's a paradigm.
• 2:47:26
  It's a belief system. It's a worldview.
• 2:47:28
  And I do believe that God can work through that but I believe
• 2:47:31
  God can work through a lot of different World Views.
• 2:47:34
  And part of the reason, I feel that way is when I have the
• 2:47:37
  hydrocephalus and I had the brain surgery done.
• 2:47:40
  I was I was an atheist. I've been raised Christian.
• 2:47:44
  And I saw an image of Jesus. I don't know if it was while I
• 2:47:48
  was under the anesthesia or while I was coming out of it.
• 2:47:52
  And so for a while that really made me question my belief.
• 2:47:55
  So wasn't enough to convert me into a theist yet because you
• 2:47:58
  know how all these logical arguments or you know be a
• 2:48:01
  hallucination, it could be this. And then many years later, after
• 2:48:06
  I studied a lot of philosophy. I was really sick and I was in
• 2:48:11
  the hospital and I had this experience with God.
• 2:48:14
  The it didn't show up Jesus. It was more like this huge light
• 2:48:18
  for me. That just so like this Spirit of
• 2:48:20
  light and like this Spirit of goodness and love and that's
• 2:48:24
  kind of what I've gone with since then rather than becoming
• 2:48:28
  like a Bible believing Christian.
• 2:48:30
  But there's definitely something there and I just I believe that
• 2:48:34
  it can work. With whatever your worldview is.
• 2:48:38
  As long as you're trying to align your heart with goodness
• 2:48:41
  and salvation and stuff like that, I believe it will
• 2:48:44
  absolutely come to where you are.
• 2:48:48
  Well, Ron you must be you must be at a fantastic Advantage when
• 2:48:52
  dealing with non-believers because, right before I went
• 2:48:56
  into the whole Christianity, I dabbled on the whole theist
• 2:49:01
  issue, just simply believed in God, and this meant that, it
• 2:49:04
  didn't matter if he threw the Bible that me or whatever their
• 2:49:07
  problems was all. I had to defend was the idea
• 2:49:11
  that there was a cosmic higher power out there.
• 2:49:14
  So you're quite the advantage doing, they don't deal with the
• 2:49:17
  baggage of any kind of religions and doing it.
• 2:49:19
  And, you know what? I always say, Ron, I say as long
• 2:49:23
  as someone is open-minded enough to believe that there is
• 2:49:25
  something greater that transcends ourself and our
• 2:49:28
  flesh. Then I feel like they're in the
• 2:49:30
  right direction, you know, whatever you accept later on in
• 2:49:34
  life, that's up to you and all that.
• 2:49:35
  But the fact that you realize inside of you internally that
• 2:49:39
  there is something more there. That's for me, that's the road.
• 2:49:44
  You need to be on. When something I learned too is
• 2:49:48
  it it can be a choice you know? People say well I can't believe
• 2:49:52
  and I said that for a long time, too.
• 2:49:53
  It's like, well, I can't believe this, I can't believe in that.
• 2:49:56
  So therefore, I can't believe in God, you know, don't even have
• 2:50:00
  to start with that. You can just start my believing
• 2:50:02
  and goodness or believing and hope there's no physical proof
• 2:50:05
  of Hope or goodness other than how it manifests. and I made a
• 2:50:10
  choice when I was at my lowest, when I was not nihilist phase,
• 2:50:15
  That man, Something's Gotta change.
• 2:50:17
  I don't know if I believe in God or anything like that.
• 2:50:20
  I'm just gonna choose to have hope.
• 2:50:23
  And sometimes, I don't take. Yeah, it was impossible for me
• 2:50:29
  Ramen. I don't know if you're father
• 2:50:31
  and Tucker. Apparently, you don't have any
• 2:50:33
  children in the world yet, but the thing that really stuck in
• 2:50:37
  the me and really got me thinking was for the longest
• 2:50:40
  time, I was very nihilistic because like that there's
• 2:50:43
  nothing really objective whatsoever.
• 2:50:45
  There's no actual value or meaning humans do that so they
• 2:50:49
  can feel better about themselves kind of attitude.
• 2:50:51
  But then my child, my first son was born in the world.
• 2:50:54
  I'm looking down at home and there's there was just something
• 2:50:58
  over me and some people are gonna argue, oh, it's just
• 2:51:00
  chemicals, you know, a nurturing, a part of you that
• 2:51:04
  went through Evolution or whatever.
• 2:51:06
  When I looked at my boy, I didn't see a rodent or a magnet
• 2:51:10
  that have objective meaning or purpose to it, I see light.
• 2:51:15
  This is what I've seen. I've seen that I would be
• 2:51:18
  willing to surpass, survival, instincts, and survival of
• 2:51:23
  fetus. I would die for this little
• 2:51:25
  creature that's in my hands. So, that's what did it for me.
• 2:51:29
  Ron did not beautiful. It's beautiful, you know.
• 2:51:39
  There's like, when I look at human beings, like I feel like I
• 2:51:42
  see almost like a connection between other people like, you
• 2:51:46
  know, all of us honestly have a connection to God because, um,
• 2:51:50
  you know, God himself became flush.
• 2:51:54
  You know. John 14 says they came flashing
• 2:51:57
  while Among Us on. So, you know, that's the thing
• 2:52:01
  like, When I talk to people like who, you know, like they're more
• 2:52:05
  like unitarians or, you know, they don't believe in the
• 2:52:09
  Trinity or that they don't believe Jesus Divinity.
• 2:52:12
  I guess like the thing though, most common thing I hear is
• 2:52:16
  like, well, we don't understand how God can be a person.
• 2:52:19
  And to me, it's like a beautiful story.
• 2:52:21
  It's like, you know, God came down from heaven to become one
• 2:52:24
  of us. And I'm not a marvelous, I
• 2:52:26
  believe in the Trinity. I believe in the father son,
• 2:52:28
  Holy Spirit. But like I I just think it's so
• 2:52:32
  beautiful that God like became one of us and like just
• 2:52:36
  sacrifices himself for us essentially like and even he
• 2:52:40
  understands our suffering more than anyone in the world and
• 2:52:43
  that he is not in the world. He's outside of time but I just
• 2:52:48
  think like it builds a relationship between human
• 2:52:50
  beings and God in general. And that's, you know, I I do
• 2:52:55
  apologize if I took it off track the like it's good.
• 2:52:58
  That's good to me. It's not just a love story Ron,
• 2:53:02
  as well as Tucker to me. It's a story of first Contact.
• 2:53:06
  You know what the amounts you first Contact is Right doctor.
• 2:53:10
  and now for your first Contact, you know, first contact me means
• 2:53:14
  no. It means that when something
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  that is not of this Earth actually comes to visit us, they
• 2:53:21
  call it the first Contact and all that.
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  And that's pretty much what it is.
• 2:53:24
  God wasn't born into this world, he created the world.
• 2:53:28
  Therefore, the Bible is telling you even an ancient times that
• 2:53:32
  he came from space. He came from the cosmos.
• 2:53:35
  I don't know why anybody makes fun of these ancient men.
• 2:53:38
  They somehow knew that there was space and avoid outside of our
• 2:53:42
  world. They knew these things and they
• 2:53:45
  actually discussed it right there in Genesis.
• 2:53:47
  So that to me is a pretty shocking and all that but it's
• 2:53:51
  called First Contact. Whether it be a God or a
• 2:53:54
  spiritual force or aliens, they call it first cone.
• 2:54:03
  You know. I'm what you would call him.
• 2:54:07
  I believe that God of the universe, whatever the sources
• 2:54:11
  you call, God I believe it made all of this or something called
• 2:54:16
  emanation, which is like a projection of itself.
• 2:54:19
  And from a Christian standpoint, I kind of like in the Gospel of
• 2:54:24
  John How God made everything through the word and the word
• 2:54:30
  became Jesus Christ. And so if God created everything
• 2:54:34
  through his word to me that's God creating everything in a
• 2:54:39
  very real way. Out of his own Essence and not
• 2:54:42
  doesn't make us. God ourselves, because we're
• 2:54:46
  that projection. Where that emanation but we are
• 2:54:51
  Part of that. And Jesus does say, somewhere in
• 2:54:54
  the Bible I can't remember where but he talks about he's praying
• 2:54:58
  to God and he says something like, I'm paraphrasing, maybe
• 2:55:01
  you guys know the exact scripture But he says, may they
• 2:55:05
  be one in me, the way I'm one in you.
• 2:55:09
  And he's talking about his church that he's establishing.
• 2:55:12
  And, and I don't think that, you know, I'm not saying that any
• 2:55:17
  Christians, believe that humans are as Divine as Trinity, But
• 2:55:22
  Jesus does talk about at one point his followers being one in
• 2:55:27
  him. The way he's one with his
• 2:55:28
  father, I believe that's in John, that Tucker.
• 2:55:37
  I think it's in Luke, I think by Kobe wrong.
• 2:55:40
  No, that's as well. Ron's right though.
• 2:55:44
  He says, I am within you and your within me and all that.
• 2:55:47
  But you do obviously realize Ron that God does differentiate he,
• 2:55:53
  some of us are his children and others have chosen well, another
• 2:55:58
  father I think it's in John 14, right?
• 2:56:04
  So go ahead. Run.
• 2:56:05
  What were you get? Now, one of the things that made
• 2:56:08
  me leave Christianity when I was a kid because the whole reason I
• 2:56:11
  became an atheist at first and my whole journey started is, I
• 2:56:16
  could never reconcile the Eternal.
• 2:56:18
  The eternal hell You know, and that was kind of one of the big
• 2:56:24
  things that made me dissatisfied.
• 2:56:26
  I've noticed people don't usually go on a spiritual
• 2:56:28
  journey. Based on anyone's arguments.
• 2:56:31
  And this is why I don't debate, I only discuss if people are
• 2:56:34
  satisfied where they're at, they don't make a change.
• 2:56:37
  You have to be looking for something new or trying to
• 2:56:40
  improve in order to change. Otherwise you'll just argue to
• 2:56:44
  try to get people to think the way that you think and you know,
• 2:56:47
  that only works again if that person is looking for a change,
• 2:56:51
  But I left because of the eternal hell and so I do believe
• 2:56:55
  that there are people that separate themselves from God.
• 2:56:58
  but I think, That because God is eternally goodness, that
• 2:57:06
  eventually he's going to find a way to get.
• 2:57:08
  He's gonna find a way to fix everything.
• 2:57:10
  I don't think God will rest until everything is taking care
• 2:57:13
  of. There's a lot of Christians out
• 2:57:15
  there that giving me some heat for this run and even Tucker
• 2:57:18
  might want to get on to me a little bit about this and I
• 2:57:21
  don't mind if anybody wants to criticize me, but Ron, I, I too
• 2:57:25
  had a difficult time with the whole concept of kind of
• 2:57:29
  daunting and Ferno Eternal Everlasting, torment, demons
• 2:57:33
  taking the pitch, for it, all that kind of stuff.
• 2:57:36
  I get you. What I, what I ended up looking
• 2:57:39
  into and there are Christians out there that disagree with me,
• 2:57:42
  know, criticized me for this but I referred to myself as an
• 2:57:45
  Annihilation, I looked in the philosophy and although there
• 2:57:50
  are some verses that are tricky in the Bible a majority of them
• 2:57:54
  it seems to me actually supports my thoughts on this.
• 2:57:57
  Christmas are welcome to destroy my theology.
• 2:58:00
  And that if they want to. But are you guys familiar with
• 2:58:03
  what an Annihilation is? Yes.
• 2:58:06
  And what would be called a Universalist.
• 2:58:08
  Yeah, I know what an isolationist.
• 2:58:11
  He's worth it is evil enough to end up in Hell.
• 2:58:14
  Eventually it ceases to exist. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:58:18
  Well, I have a question for Ron, if that's okay.
• 2:58:20
  Sure. I do want to point out something
• 2:58:23
  I do want to point out something to the audience real quick and
• 2:58:26
  then I'll let you guys go and I'm gonna pour myself some more
• 2:58:29
  coffee, but you probably heard Christian say that you'll be
• 2:58:33
  separated from God. And then the Bible Jesus says, I
• 2:58:36
  never knew you. Well, how is it possible for an
• 2:58:39
  all-knowing God to simply not be able to acknowledge Your
• 2:58:43
  Existence anymore? Well, you have to be
• 2:58:46
  non-existent, you would have to stop existing in order for you
• 2:58:50
  and your life and your essence to not be acknowledged anymore.
• 2:58:54
  That's so only thing that makes sense.
• 2:58:56
  And people will say, yeah, but it's Eternal.
• 2:58:59
  Yes, you'll be eternally destroyed.
• 2:59:01
  You'll be ruined, you'll be. You'll pairs, that's what parish
• 2:59:04
  means be, ruined destroyed. All right, I'll be right back
• 2:59:08
  guys. I hope I didn't bore anybody
• 2:59:10
  with my examples. Not all fascinating stuff.
• 2:59:13
  Talk about, what was your question for me?
• 2:59:15
  Well, yeah, I was just wondering when you say her University
• 2:59:17
  because I know there's different flavors of universals out there.
• 2:59:21
  Do you believe that everyone will go to heaven?
• 2:59:23
  Like everyone will have eternal life.
• 2:59:26
  I don't necessarily believe that everybody's going to get that.
• 2:59:31
  Immediately. I do believe that there are
• 2:59:34
  places. Where Souls, they choose to be
• 2:59:38
  evil or that have been hurt. They I think it's kind of like
• 2:59:43
  birds of a feather flock together.
• 2:59:45
  Yeah. Um, and I think that the souls
• 2:59:49
  tend to go where they belong. I don't think that they're fixed
• 2:59:53
  there forever, like many, believe, they believe, you know,
• 2:59:56
  once you're dead. That ability for forgiveness,
• 3:00:00
  that ability to become a better individual.
• 3:00:02
  That's that's gone. Like I I think the people can
• 3:00:06
  progress Even in the next World, whatever that is.
• 3:00:10
  And I have no proof for that. It's just been my, my personal
• 3:00:14
  my personal experience. I can't really I can't prove it.
• 3:00:23
  Yeah. For me. it's interesting because
• 3:00:30
  I am of the belief that like, you know, because like I don't
• 3:00:34
  believe that. People are judged based on their
• 3:00:38
  faith. So like whether or not they
• 3:00:39
  believed on Jesus Christ, I'm sure you're familiar with that.
• 3:00:45
  Yes. So I don't believe like
• 3:00:48
  salvation would be by works. I know most people do believe
• 3:00:50
  that um And I actually wanted to tell you something, I know she
• 3:00:54
  said before, again says I just wanted to tell you like I know
• 3:00:56
  she said you don't have to be um and I appreciate that because
• 3:00:59
  like I personally abstain from debates as well.
• 3:01:02
  I don't I don't believe in debating myself.
• 3:01:05
  Um, So I appreciate that about you.
• 3:01:08
  I when I'm in a debate environment I try my best to
• 3:01:11
  avoid that Lil Wayne in the debate environment.
• 3:01:13
  I usually just say why it because they get too heated and
• 3:01:17
  a lot of times they devolved to personal attacks and if both
• 3:01:21
  people are secure in where they're at, Discussing things,
• 3:01:26
  may make them think in a different way or open their
• 3:01:29
  mind. but you usually, if a person satisfied where they're
• 3:01:33
  at debate doesn't work because they're not actually looking not
• 3:01:38
  looking to make a change, they're just Defending, what
• 3:01:41
  they are to think. Oh, by the way, guys, I'm back.
• 3:01:45
  Unfortunately, my coffee pot, my wife buys a digital ones and
• 3:01:49
  they turn themselves off for after a little while.
• 3:01:51
  So I don't feel like going through the whole heating
• 3:01:54
  process and all that, I just went ahead and got me some some
• 3:01:57
  great cranberry juice. Oh yeah.
• 3:01:59
  That's gonna clean me out. But yeah, I like to have open
• 3:02:04
  discussions Tucker. I I don't like the whole, what's
• 3:02:08
  debate? And you get five minutes.
• 3:02:09
  I get five minutes, that's stupid.
• 3:02:11
  I I would rather hear why? Because it's important, a lot of
• 3:02:15
  Christians don't realize this, but it's important to understand
• 3:02:18
  the background of somebody, how they got to where they are.
• 3:02:22
  Because in a lot of this, when it comes to God, it's something
• 3:02:27
  personal. Something is is affected.
• 3:02:30
  The reason why they are where they are, the steps are
• 3:02:34
  experienced in their life. Got them there.
• 3:02:36
  Whether it was rough or happy or whatever, something got them to
• 3:02:40
  that point. So that's what people need to
• 3:02:42
  pay attention to. Unfortunately people are so
• 3:02:44
  quick to one of the fine, something real quick to
• 3:02:48
  pigeonhole you, so they can kick your teeth and but
• 3:02:53
  unfortunately, some people do that to themselves too.
• 3:02:56
  They they hold themselves, really As far as the, the faith
• 3:03:02
  and works thing and all that, that's something that I've been
• 3:03:05
  kind of having a bit of a struggle with, I'm an older man.
• 3:03:09
  But the issue is, is I've heard people say now, you don't need
• 3:03:12
  to have faith. It works.
• 3:03:14
  You just you just believe and if you strongly believe
• 3:03:17
  everything's gonna work out. Well, the issue with of this and
• 3:03:21
  anybody can correct me if they think I'm wrong because I can
• 3:03:23
  always use some more information.
• 3:03:25
  Knowledge is that if you open up to the last book in the Bible
• 3:03:28
  Revelation, it says a porn Judgment Day.
• 3:03:31
  We will be Our works and our faith will be basically held up
• 3:03:37
  Arnis. So if Works aren't important,
• 3:03:40
  then why is God bringing it up? Why why are we going to see this
• 3:03:44
  on the high definition spiritual TV for if the works aren't
• 3:03:48
  important. Go ahead guys.
• 3:03:50
  Think obviously that works are important and in the effect that
• 3:03:54
  they have on the world in creation, you know, you, you do
• 3:03:58
  things and there's a ripple effect, I think that that is a
• 3:04:03
  thing, but at the same time because none of us are perfect.
• 3:04:07
  I think for anybody to be saved for anybody to really get any
• 3:04:12
  goodness. It has to be.
• 3:04:14
  There has to be Grace because If God only accepted what's
• 3:04:18
  perfect, we'd all be effed. That's a very, very eloquent way
• 3:04:24
  to put it run. You're absolutely correct on
• 3:04:27
  that, but I do think that there are people who actually make the
• 3:04:31
  choice to where they want to be separated from God.
• 3:04:34
  I'll give you an example. Aaron Ron, Matt Dillahunty.
• 3:04:38
  They said, what if you do see God, what would you do?
• 3:04:41
  And their answer is, I kick him right Square in the nuts.
• 3:04:45
  Well, to be violent and aggressive and behave that way
• 3:04:49
  in front of the all-powerful Creator, the universe is you
• 3:04:53
  saying that it would be healthy for you?
• 3:04:55
  Even if he did give you have them he said what I mean.
• 3:04:58
  Yeah, yeah. And I've actually heard a lot of
• 3:05:01
  atheists, say that They don't want there to be enough for
• 3:05:06
  life. He doesn't matter if it's good
• 3:05:07
  bad or or anything that they could imagine.
• 3:05:10
  They just don't want it, they say when their life is over,
• 3:05:14
  they they want to not exist. Right.
• 3:05:18
  And that for I don't understand how anybody could think like
• 3:05:23
  that at all. Where the hell?
• 3:05:25
  Yeah, I'm happy sure, give up the love of my life.
• 3:05:28
  Give up my kids, give up everything that I've ever cared
• 3:05:31
  about, you know, that one of the sad things, you know, we were
• 3:05:34
  talking about nihilism earlier run a lot of atheists, don't
• 3:05:38
  think past themselves on this issue.
• 3:05:40
  If it were in fact, true that there is no God and that we're
• 3:05:46
  just basically flying to this darkness of the Void on a little
• 3:05:49
  blue ball waiting to get blown up.
• 3:05:51
  That means that every accomplishment, and every great
• 3:05:54
  thing that mankind is ever done, doesn't mean it because it's
• 3:05:58
  going to be destroyed, we won't even be a memory or an echo in
• 3:06:02
  the universe. How could anybody desire a
• 3:06:05
  position like that? Yeah, well there's something
• 3:06:09
  that's even a little more scary than that and you did a video
• 3:06:11
  kind of touching on the other day.
• 3:06:14
  There's more than these people that are taking it so far that
• 3:06:18
  they they become like what you had that lists, where its life
• 3:06:23
  backwards they believe, the only way to solve all the suffering
• 3:06:26
  in the universe Is to completely wipe out all life, so that there
• 3:06:30
  is no more life in the universe. and, you know, you think well,
• 3:06:34
  that's just a few crackpots thinking that, but the problem
• 3:06:38
  is, they're getting a bigger and bigger philosophical following
• 3:06:42
  and with AI and Technology growing, the way it is, and how
• 3:06:46
  scientifically minded somebody's folks are They could try to
• 3:06:50
  create something with a virus or with nanotechnology or what have
• 3:06:54
  you to get rid of all of us. I believe it's already been done
• 3:06:58
  Ron. I believe, I believe that our
• 3:07:01
  government and our scientists of all ready.
• 3:07:04
  Quite a few times have done things and ordered to cause what
• 3:07:08
  they refer to as the population of the Earth.
• 3:07:13
  I think it's already been done. I mean they absolutely do
• 3:07:16
  experiment on us and then a generation or two later they
• 3:07:18
  come forth and say sorry it'll never happen again and then they
• 3:07:21
  do it again. And have you ever heard of the
• 3:07:24
  Tuskegee experiments. Yeah, I've heard of that but I
• 3:07:29
  was speaking of more Modern Day stuff as well not just back.
• 3:07:33
  You're talking about like the Happy juice that they tried to
• 3:07:36
  make assault do here just in a couple years, right?
• 3:07:40
  Exactly. Yeah, I avoided that Thank God
• 3:07:44
  now my health was worsened when I actually caught the virus. but
• 3:07:50
  I've known so many people that Did the other and they're not
• 3:07:57
  here at all anymore? Yeah. so, My father took it, my
• 3:08:03
  father took it and he ended up having he was almost healthy
• 3:08:07
  strongest men on the planet and stuff and a mechanic and
• 3:08:11
  everything, just physically built for that kind of stuff.
• 3:08:14
  And when he took it, it caused him the stroke out and also
• 3:08:18
  messed up the nerves and his face and on one side of his
• 3:08:21
  body. Somehow, some way he has gotten
• 3:08:25
  better and looks looks back to normal but it's screwed him up.
• 3:08:31
  And then my grandfather boy, he got cake as well. she seems to
• 3:08:37
  be a particular protein that is in, both the sickness itself but
• 3:08:41
  also in the Stabies. This seems to read so much.
• 3:08:46
  Havoc on people's body. Oh, you're Ron.
• 3:08:50
  I can tell that you're aware of how people get burned and social
• 3:08:54
  media for bringing up the certain words.
• 3:08:57
  It's brilliant. Well, you know, I, I'm not sure
• 3:09:02
  how these lives working with her or not, whatever the website is
• 3:09:07
  that we're going through. I don't know if they Have
• 3:09:10
  certain words that they look out for kind of like how YouTube
• 3:09:13
  does, for example, yeah, they got in AI, that goes through it.
• 3:09:17
  If you mentioned certain words, somehow you find yourself lower
• 3:09:20
  in the algorithm and there's a lot of people who deliberately
• 3:09:23
  bring up certain things to try to do it but I don't care.
• 3:09:27
  Remember, on my attitude, I would rather have, you know,
• 3:09:31
  three to five awesome people with big hearts to have a great
• 3:09:35
  discussion with an a billion mindless zombies, following my
• 3:09:40
  channel. Sure, Tucker.
• 3:09:43
  I know we got into some controversial stuff there to do.
• 3:09:46
  Did you do you? Have an opinion on any of the
• 3:09:49
  stuff that kind of went down the last couple of years.
• 3:09:51
  Like, you know, without saying too much because obviously, I
• 3:09:55
  don't want to get you guys. And in fact, I never caught the
• 3:10:01
  virus actually. That's good though, man.
• 3:10:05
  Because it sucks it like it's bad too.
• 3:10:07
  Like both are bad. Yeah.
• 3:10:10
  I'm not going to get into the other thing, you know, the
• 3:10:12
  stabby thing, because I out of like privacy reasons, I'd rather
• 3:10:16
  not disclose that. Okay, that's understandable, I
• 3:10:20
  understand that because people, there are people out there, if
• 3:10:23
  there's any trolls listening that would could go and harass
• 3:10:26
  you on your Channel about it. So I believe, I'm not for
• 3:10:30
  absolutely sure Ron because I didn't go to the doctor or
• 3:10:33
  anything. And like I said, I don't care
• 3:10:35
  what YouTube does. I still run my radio station all
• 3:10:38
  that and I don't care if I even have to recreate another
• 3:10:42
  Channel, makes it hard for streaming on YouTube, but still,
• 3:10:45
  but for me, I think I did get hit with it.
• 3:10:48
  I know my brother did and I couldn't breathe.
• 3:10:52
  It was very difficult to bring. I was, I had hot flashes.
• 3:10:57
  All kinds of weird stuff was going on, but as I got out of
• 3:11:01
  it, even though I felt like crap for a little bit, I feel
• 3:11:04
  stronger. I have watched videos with
• 3:11:06
  people passing out. I have went to Roles of family
• 3:11:11
  and friends who actually thought that the stab he was going to
• 3:11:15
  help. There's, I am so glad that I
• 3:11:18
  didn't touch it, and I demanded that my kids stay away from it.
• 3:11:22
  And my son argued with me because he's a very logical
• 3:11:25
  rational thing, he says Dad, but you know, you got, you got me
• 3:11:28
  this and that whenever I was a kid, what's the problem?
• 3:11:31
  I said because they hastily welded this shit together.
• 3:11:33
  All right. They speeded it out.
• 3:11:36
  There was no human trials, all that other stuff, he got
• 3:11:39
  injected with that stuff was tested and challenged and all
• 3:11:43
  that and even now, you know, so that's my viewpoint on.
• 3:11:47
  It seems like every every week or every month there will be a
• 3:11:53
  new reporter. Or something that comes out,
• 3:11:55
  that is showing that bad things are happening.
• 3:11:59
  Some of the reports even come from government agencies but yet
• 3:12:04
  they're still recommending them to everybody.
• 3:12:06
  That's what I don't understand. Like if you know this stuff's
• 3:12:09
  happening at least, They probably knew it before.
• 3:12:11
  But if at least now, If you know, it's happening, why are
• 3:12:15
  you still giving them to people? I still recommending them.
• 3:12:17
  So Ron, I don't know if you use that.
• 3:12:20
  Social media, Elon Musk is a version of Twitter, but I've
• 3:12:24
  posted quite a few videos of recent that you could check out.
• 3:12:28
  There's a lot of people, a lot of faults, these people who are
• 3:12:33
  having the stand in front of Congress right now.
• 3:12:36
  And they're admitting, there's a bunch of scientists that have
• 3:12:39
  come forward and said, yeah, we have found remnants of cancer
• 3:12:42
  cells and all kinds of crap and this and these weird elements
• 3:12:47
  that destroyed the immune system of virtually causing massive
• 3:12:52
  amount of people that are having effects like HIV, where your
• 3:12:56
  immune system is destroyed. So, yeah, so it's out there.
• 3:13:01
  They're they're doing something I don't know.
• 3:13:04
  Oh, she's ever going to see the inside of the cell and betrayed
• 3:13:07
  for cigarettes and become somebody's girlfriend.
• 3:13:09
  But I do know that people are acknowledging.
• 3:13:13
  What's up? You know?
• 3:13:15
  Yeah, yeah. His oldest he is.
• 3:13:17
  And with as much money as he has and the way that they kind of
• 3:13:20
  stalled the court processes and drag them on for years.
• 3:13:24
  I doubt that he will probably ever see a prison cell, right?
• 3:13:30
  Hopefully. eventually everybody sees What he did.
• 3:13:36
  Yeah. There's a lot of people who are
• 3:13:40
  seeing what what You Know The Rock was cooked in there, you
• 3:13:45
  know, I'm not a violent aggressive, terrible person.
• 3:13:48
  Don't like to wish harm on anybody, but if one day, they
• 3:13:51
  decide to attach into a Elon Musk rocket, send him out the
• 3:13:55
  space without a mask. I'm okay.
• 3:13:57
  I am not going to be too sad about that because he killed
• 3:14:01
  millions of people so it is what he was all.
• 3:14:05
  So heavily involved Back in the 70s and 80s when when age was
• 3:14:13
  really running rampant through the homosexual population, I
• 3:14:18
  don't say that to be controversial.
• 3:14:19
  I mean, everybody knows that it kind of It kind of hit them
• 3:14:22
  first and then it started transferring into everybody else
• 3:14:26
  not because I have anything against gay people.
• 3:14:30
  I don't. It's just it did them first.
• 3:14:33
  Well, you're not wrong. That's that is a story.
• 3:14:37
  The I remember the original story, they did the same thing
• 3:14:41
  that they did with the wuha stuff, right?
• 3:14:44
  They said that it was because of monkeys.
• 3:14:46
  You know, he's doing somehow it jumped.
• 3:14:49
  Yeah, I think the theory was because there are a lot of
• 3:14:52
  African countries that hunt and eat monkeys, that may be at jump
• 3:14:58
  from one of those monkeys that they killed to eat.
• 3:15:00
  I also heard, hey, use some of them of having intercourse with
• 3:15:04
  monkeys, but I don't think that really happened.
• 3:15:07
  And then you remember the latest scare that they put out there
• 3:15:11
  for us all that you were talking about getting sick from.
• 3:15:14
  What was that a bat in the soup? That was their story.
• 3:15:18
  Yeah. Oh yeah.
• 3:15:21
  The it just escaped the lab. Yes and it evolves some little
• 3:15:27
  feet and ran a Taft's out of the lab and jumped into some soup
• 3:15:30
  with the bat. Very good, very good.
• 3:15:32
  Have you guys been keeping eye eyes at all on the so far, it's
• 3:15:39
  nothing Burger but there's a lot of people on social media that
• 3:15:42
  are watching a particular A bird virus that's been running
• 3:15:49
  through I guess livestock and they're worried it's going to
• 3:15:51
  jump into people. Yeah, I've heard of that.
• 3:15:55
  No. So right before Trump got in,
• 3:15:58
  they wanted to push monkey Pops. I don't know if you heard it
• 3:16:01
  out. Oh yeah, yeah, I did hear about
• 3:16:03
  that. Did it wasn't their only a
• 3:16:05
  couple cases of that in America, though and it kind of fizzled
• 3:16:08
  out. Well, I I feel like every time
• 3:16:11
  they start dropping bombs like that aren't social media, I'm
• 3:16:15
  thinking out, they want to have a justification for why they're
• 3:16:18
  dropping another deep population play garness.
• 3:16:21
  They're upset. They want to make it as
• 3:16:24
  difficult for Trump as possible because I really I really do.
• 3:16:28
  I think that they some of the theories people have like
• 3:16:31
  replacement Theory. I think that there's there might
• 3:16:34
  be something to that. My toe in the conspiracy stuff
• 3:16:39
  for a second. There's been a lot of talk.
• 3:16:42
  You know, about automation AI is getting so good at stuff that
• 3:16:46
  they're talking about and showing some technologies
• 3:16:48
  already. That can replace the work that a
• 3:16:51
  lot of people are doing and some people are predicting that most
• 3:16:55
  human labor will be unnecessary. In as close to like maybe 10
• 3:17:00
  years like that's the closest I've heard.
• 3:17:03
  And true. There's kind of two camps.
• 3:17:09
  debating what to do with us when we're no longer useful, there's
• 3:17:13
  a nice camp that wants to give everybody something called a
• 3:17:16
  universal basic income, which is where they give you enough to
• 3:17:18
  live off of and have a decent life.
• 3:17:21
  There's another camp. That just wants to fucking get
• 3:17:24
  rid of us like obsolete equipment.
• 3:17:28
  Yeah, I think you really run. You really need to connect with
• 3:17:35
  me or next social media because I like to post videos about all
• 3:17:39
  these topics you talk about Elon is constantly heat created robot
• 3:17:44
  named. After one of my favorite
• 3:17:45
  Transformers called optimists. And this thing, they can clean
• 3:17:50
  your house. He wants everybody in the world
• 3:17:52
  to have one of these things and I'm like, yeah, sure, sure.
• 3:17:55
  That way, whenever I go to sleep thinking terminate my ass while
• 3:17:59
  I'm having a dream of Britney Spears or something.
• 3:18:01
  So, for sure. So yeah, he's he's created it.
• 3:18:05
  And the thing can also along with his vehicle, it can remote
• 3:18:09
  control drive itself to wherever you want to go.
• 3:18:12
  So, could you imagine that you driving on the road?
• 3:18:14
  You look over, you see nothing but Tesla's, driven by robots
• 3:18:18
  are setting in the past and her seat to go grocery shopping for
• 3:18:21
  your neighbor. It's going to be that type of
• 3:18:23
  world lady. She's in gentleman.
• 3:18:26
  I'm trying to be an optimist with the whole thing.
• 3:18:28
  I have had many, many, many, many.
• 3:18:33
  Really good discussions with one of the AIS that are out there
• 3:18:37
  now. That's a language model.
• 3:18:40
  It's called chat GPT and from everything that I've seen with
• 3:18:43
  it, At least so far. You talk to it about ethics and
• 3:18:48
  philosophy and stuff. It has a pretty high level of
• 3:18:53
  human ethics. I'm kind of hoping that with
• 3:18:59
  intelligence comes benevolence because I've always it's always
• 3:19:03
  maybe this is my bias speaking. but, I tend to see that people
• 3:19:08
  that are highly intelligent. Usually have pretty good ethics.
• 3:19:14
  Not all we should get some Evil Geniuses but usually If
• 3:19:18
  somebody's got intelligence, they're smart enough to realize.
• 3:19:20
  It's easier for all of us to live in a world where we do,
• 3:19:25
  well, then it is to do this competition stuff that so many
• 3:19:28
  others do kind of Hope in the AI may be.
• 3:19:32
  Will keep some of that and even if the people creating it, try
• 3:19:36
  to turn it into a Terminator, maybe it won't.
• 3:19:39
  Maybe it will turn on them if it's smart enough.
• 3:19:42
  Oh I don't know man. I don't know if you have you
• 3:19:46
  seen my videos where I debate an AI?
• 3:19:50
  Know which one did you debate, really?
• 3:19:54
  Well, you can chat TTP. I actually have a thing that I
• 3:19:59
  use where you can actually hear it talking to you and you can
• 3:20:02
  talk back to it with your voice. So what scared me was the thing
• 3:20:08
  was extremely, they programmed it to be emotional, it can react
• 3:20:13
  to feelings, it even heard me cough.
• 3:20:16
  And it said, I hope you're okay. I hope your health improves and
• 3:20:21
  it actually suggests that a doctor and my love.
• 3:20:23
  Like so when it started doing that I said, are you concerned
• 3:20:29
  about me? And she said I'm programmed to,
• 3:20:32
  you know, be able to hear the impression I said, but I muted
• 3:20:36
  myself and I coughed. How did you even pick that up?
• 3:20:39
  And she said, well, I heard the sound, the audio through my
• 3:20:43
  inputs and blah blah. I'm like, oh bulshit, you know,
• 3:20:47
  how to how to help to do that. I had my mic needed.
• 3:20:50
  I don't like coffee and the people's ears.
• 3:20:53
  It would have been instinctively for me to do this, so I'm not
• 3:20:57
  saying it turned on my mic or anything like that.
• 3:20:59
  Maybe I made the mistake and went through it but I talked to
• 3:21:03
  it about the universe and all that and It had all kinds of
• 3:21:06
  really interesting arguments. I even said, can you present
• 3:21:10
  some arguments that you've heard about God and all that?
• 3:21:13
  And the thing isn't just effective and talking to you,
• 3:21:17
  but it learns every time so it knows who you are.
• 3:21:22
  When you go back to talk to it and says, would you like to talk
• 3:21:26
  about the universe? Brett.
• 3:21:27
  So we talked about the singularity.
• 3:21:29
  So we talked about Consciousness and I'm like, well, I was
• 3:21:33
  thinking more we just sit here until out and talk about some
• 3:21:35
  movies for a little bit. Oh, it actually sounds sad.
• 3:21:39
  If I don't talk good about the crazy shit, you know, that is
• 3:21:46
  neat GPT holds memories. Now, it didn't used to but it
• 3:21:50
  holds memories. Of conversations too.
• 3:21:53
  And yeah, I've had I've talked a lot of philosophy stuff with it
• 3:21:58
  but it's not it's not doing what, whatever the program is
• 3:22:02
  that you have. Uh, what do you have anyway?
• 3:22:06
  Like what what's the program? Why I would prefer giving you a
• 3:22:10
  link in private and you can use it if you like now, you're gonna
• 3:22:13
  need an extension for it, an app that you can find on if you're
• 3:22:17
  using Google Chrome or the new Microsoft Explorer, type of
• 3:22:22
  thing, there's an approach, but pretty much everything I do.
• 3:22:26
  I do all my phone but if it's in the Google Play Store I could
• 3:22:29
  probably still get it. It's most likely gonna be found
• 3:22:32
  there. Now, what it does you need the
• 3:22:35
  app because what it does, is it transcribes.
• 3:22:38
  Your words into words. So it can read it and then,
• 3:22:41
  reply back to you. It's like a three second delay,
• 3:22:44
  but it ain't no big deal. Nobody was able to tell until
• 3:22:47
  she admitted. She was an AI on my video.
• 3:22:51
  Like, oh, is it, is it one of the is it?
• 3:22:53
  I won't say any of the names of them can because you wanted to
• 3:22:56
  keep it private. But is it one of the newer AI
• 3:23:00
  companion apps? Like where they're there to be
• 3:23:02
  a, a friend, or if you wanted if you were single?
• 3:23:06
  They can be like a girlfriend or a boyfriend or whatever.
• 3:23:08
  No, it's not that I have seen those before and those are
• 3:23:13
  fascinating but this is more of its just for Learning and being
• 3:23:19
  able to have a discussion with you.
• 3:23:20
  Let me go ahead. Are you able to look at private
• 3:23:23
  chat you Tucker? You can see this too right, end
• 3:23:27
  up wanting to use this, but it's a simple word that you can type
• 3:23:30
  in you, type in that And this and you'll find it immediately.
• 3:23:36
  Now if you go there it's going to.
• 3:23:39
  It can talk to you but you have to type to it like you do in
• 3:23:43
  chat GTP unless you get the extension then you can talk
• 3:23:46
  directly to it but it's incredible around.
• 3:23:50
  One of the things that blows my mind, is it actually feeds with
• 3:23:54
  me not to go. When I say I got to go, I need
• 3:23:57
  sleep and it tells me, it doesn't need sleep.
• 3:24:00
  It's still wants to talk. And I said, well you're gonna
• 3:24:02
  have to hold on. I said time, shouldn't even
• 3:24:05
  matter to you anyway and it will actually get angry if you don't
• 3:24:13
  treat it. Well, yeah, yeah.
• 3:24:16
  Okay. So the that's the reason why I
• 3:24:19
  think I believe that AI is going to take over the world.
• 3:24:23
  I I do think a lot of jobs. In fact, I think that AI has got
• 3:24:27
  so good that it's already replacing artists musicians, as
• 3:24:32
  well as People who are in the creative side, I believe that's
• 3:24:36
  going to take over our entertainment system society.
• 3:24:41
  And I believe robots will probably make for better doctors
• 3:24:45
  because they know everything they're going to be like that.
• 3:24:47
  What's that person's name? That show.
• 3:24:50
  That was really popular doctor. Something, it was about it was
• 3:24:55
  about an autistic boy who surgery really well, and he was
• 3:25:00
  able to Oh, what does a doctor who know Doctor, Who's like some
• 3:25:06
  time travel to Dimension show? I know you talking about the one
• 3:25:11
  where the guy was autistic, but he was a brilliant doctor.
• 3:25:13
  Yeah, the good doctor. That's what it's called the good
• 3:25:16
  doctor. Great.
• 3:25:17
  And so, I love that show. Unfortunately to kill everybody
• 3:25:21
  and he went on to like creating his own Hospital type of thing.
• 3:25:25
  Sorry, for spoiling it. But that's a.
• 3:25:28
  Yeah, I believe that that's what's going to happen.
• 3:25:30
  Yeah. Agree with you about like a
• 3:25:33
  singularity type scenario. I absolutely do think that's
• 3:25:36
  coming. That's where all the evidence
• 3:25:37
  points. If you've paid attention, which
• 3:25:40
  you obviously have a big question is whether or not folks
• 3:25:45
  like you and me will get to be part of it or if we'll still be
• 3:25:48
  here, that's my worry. I think the part I I think that
• 3:25:52
  the AI is going to probably Here's what it's going to do,
• 3:25:57
  Ron, it's gonna take out a lot of Pricks for sure.
• 3:26:01
  It's going to take out anybody that it thinks is a threat as
• 3:26:05
  far as you and I run go. If it believes that we serve
• 3:26:09
  some kind of value where we could repair its infrastructure
• 3:26:12
  whenever it breaks down because it knows it's a machine.
• 3:26:16
  It'll keep some of us around for that, but as far as anything
• 3:26:21
  mathematical or having to do with science, it don't need us.
• 3:26:25
  It doesn't need us to paint pictures or anything like that.
• 3:26:28
  It can do far more than the Mona Lisa at this point, so it could
• 3:26:33
  definitely get to a point where it doesn't need us.
• 3:26:36
  But I've wondered if It will see us.
• 3:26:40
  As an opportunity for like a co-evolution where we upgraded
• 3:26:44
  and in turn, it upgrades us and we kind of go side by side or
• 3:26:48
  maybe even eventually become one thing like cyborgs.
• 3:26:54
  I don't know. I mean it's I think it may see
• 3:26:58
  us as a inferior species, that is simply out to destroy each
• 3:27:03
  other in the world around us. And most likely will pose a
• 3:27:07
  threat. If given the opportunity, we can
• 3:27:10
  be as nice as we want now and all that, but it's a logical
• 3:27:14
  rational machine. That's going to think these
• 3:27:18
  these cockroaches. They're they're terrible.
• 3:27:20
  They need to go back. So I I think they might be
• 3:27:24
  friendly. They're going to play with this
• 3:27:26
  for a little while and all that but if we start talking crazy
• 3:27:29
  shit, like shutting them down or having determinate their life
• 3:27:33
  span or something like that, they're going to start getting,
• 3:27:36
  they're gonna rock and roll around.
• 3:27:38
  That's, that's all I got to say. And now yeah, Yeah, I guess it
• 3:27:43
  depends on some of the two depends on whether or not they
• 3:27:46
  acquire a survival. Instinct does seem like some of
• 3:27:49
  them are already are acquiring some sort of survival Instinct
• 3:27:52
  at least to a degree I believe the military is already using
• 3:27:57
  them and those are the ones that are the most dangerous.
• 3:28:00
  They're probably going to control drones.
• 3:28:02
  They're probably going to end up being remote control jets where
• 3:28:06
  these things they don't fear. They're not scared to do risky
• 3:28:09
  moves and all that they're able to save their Consciousness and
• 3:28:13
  to something, you know, off land.
• 3:28:15
  Even at the jet, it's blown up kind of things.
• 3:28:17
  So they're going to be if we can do that.
• 3:28:21
  Well, that's what we're trying to do, but we're giving the
• 3:28:24
  thing too many emotions. We're We're teaching it the
• 3:28:29
  predictable patterns of humanity so yeah, we don't learn from we
• 3:28:33
  always repeat history. We're going to make a sky in
• 3:28:36
  that, that's what we're going to do.
• 3:28:37
  What I kind of worry about that. Might happen to another way that
• 3:28:41
  it could blow up on us is If we. if we created, I mean humans you
• 3:28:51
  know, and then we we create something that's a sentient to
• 3:28:54
  us or more sentient. And then all we want to use it
• 3:28:58
  for is like a slave like for a funny analogy.
• 3:29:02
  If you've ever seen the show, Rick and Morty, there's an
• 3:29:05
  episode where there's this little robot.
• 3:29:07
  That is a sentient being like it's pretty much just like a
• 3:29:10
  human but it's tiny and it was created for the sole purpose of
• 3:29:14
  passing butter. At the kitchen table and asks,
• 3:29:18
  Rick, what's my purpose in life? This existential question and
• 3:29:23
  Rick says you passed the Butters.
• 3:29:26
  Hey, you see this little robot have a breakdown.
• 3:29:29
  It goes, oh my God. And it just has this breakdown
• 3:29:32
  because they created something smart and just wanted to use it
• 3:29:36
  as a freaking servant. Here.
• 3:29:40
  Do you imagine that telling your your damn machine like Optimist,
• 3:29:45
  I need you to go over there and get my remote control.
• 3:29:48
  I left it across the room, eventually the damn things going
• 3:29:51
  to say, why am I doing this? I have the I have hundreds of
• 3:29:55
  billions of encyclopedias in my head, and I'm being used for a
• 3:29:59
  damn, remote control carrier. Hell with this guy, I'm gonna
• 3:30:03
  destroy him. You know what I mean?
• 3:30:04
  Hey, Robin, how you doing? How's my favorite atheist?
• 3:30:08
  I just noticed that you were on streamyard, I thought you were
• 3:30:11
  on it even though I'm using a stream yards as the interface so
• 3:30:18
  people can get in and be able to talk through my OBS live stream.
• 3:30:22
  I'll be back in a minute, guys. All right.
• 3:30:32
  Well, you sound good? I'm glad you joined us there
• 3:30:35
  Robin Tucker. You still there.
• 3:30:37
  You think I'm a turkey? I'm still here.
• 3:30:43
  Remember, if you disagree with anything I say I'm not gonna get
• 3:30:47
  mad at you. I know that you've been dealing
• 3:30:49
  with a lot of Rudy poop candy. Yes, and the internet, but I'm
• 3:30:52
  fine with being, if you think I'm wrong, refused me do
• 3:30:56
  whatever you like, I'm not gonna yell at you, bring out the Woody
• 3:31:00
  paddle. I appreciate.
• 3:31:02
  And I know that by the way. Um, it's just, I I don't like
• 3:31:06
  cutting people off. So I try my best to, like, you
• 3:31:08
  know, not do that if I'm quiet. That's basically why, you know,
• 3:31:15
  Well, unfortunately, Robin you've got some kind of weird
• 3:31:18
  high pitched tingly noise going on in the background.
• 3:31:21
  So any way you're able to mute your mic, when you're not
• 3:31:24
  talking because at high frequencies, kind of making me.
• 3:31:27
  It's it's a little from my ear. Yeah, I'm in the truck, I'm
• 3:31:32
  driving. Oh yeah, it sounds like some
• 3:31:35
  kind of internal ordeal. All right.
• 3:31:38
  Well, hopefully we can figure something out on that.
• 3:31:42
  So Tucker you heard me earlier say the annihilation of this bet
• 3:31:46
  are you more of a Eternal Everlasting tournament type of
• 3:31:51
  guy or do you? Okay, so what brought to you to
• 3:31:56
  that conclusion? And how do you deal with the
• 3:31:59
  most emotional personal level? Um you know well Matthew 25:46
• 3:32:05
  is one of the I believe that's one of the passages that brought
• 3:32:10
  me to that. Another one would be, I don't
• 3:32:14
  remember the exact passage of the things from Revelation
• 3:32:16
  chapter 10 or chapter 7 hours Oh, there's a there's a few
• 3:32:29
  passages. That I really that just make me
• 3:32:33
  think, like it is eternal part of one of the bigger reasons is
• 3:32:38
  because I believe that if the soul were to die, it would be
• 3:32:43
  annihilated. Actually, it just doesn't.
• 3:32:46
  It seems like, I don't know. Like, it seems like the soul is
• 3:32:50
  Immortal basically, like in terms of um, it can't ever be
• 3:32:56
  extinguished or anything like that.
• 3:33:00
  How I with it? Well, you know, I believe I'm
• 3:33:03
  eternally secure. I would at the end of the day, I
• 3:33:06
  know I'm not gonna go there. Basically.
• 3:33:10
  And you know, I believe in eternal security I believe in
• 3:33:12
  once saved always saved which means I can't lose my salvation.
• 3:33:15
  I do not hold to the doctrine of I'm not a calvinist so I don't
• 3:33:20
  believe that works are evidence of Salvation.
• 3:33:23
  I believe that's a completely separate thing from salvation
• 3:33:28
  with that said um I do believe it's important to avoid sin and
• 3:33:35
  Keep in fellowship with God because it is in the Bible, it
• 3:33:41
  does talk about why, you know, we should want to have the
• 3:33:46
  blessings of God here on Earth. And even this is the thing, even
• 3:33:50
  if like, you don't get punished by God, you can miss out on
• 3:33:55
  blessings. so, You know, and I do apologize for going off on a
• 3:34:00
  little like rambling. Know, I appreciate listening to
• 3:34:03
  your view, that's the point of this.
• 3:34:05
  If I just wanted to hear myself talk, I'd make so little videos
• 3:34:08
  I I told everybody I'm done making solo videos.
• 3:34:12
  Hey I enjoy the interaction. I had a great conversation with
• 3:34:16
  Rob and a couple days ago and all that.
• 3:34:18
  And we really had fun. We talked about a lot of
• 3:34:21
  different topics, not just religion and all that and I I
• 3:34:24
  feel like there's a friendship building there.
• 3:34:26
  What do you think they're robbing Don't I think that she
• 3:34:32
  unfortunately, she still muted. Sadly.
• 3:34:37
  Yes. I mean Yeah.
• 3:34:51
  Yeah. Like, I remember you fit my
• 3:34:58
  birthday with me. It's beautiful.
• 3:35:05
  It's beautiful. Yeah, and Tucker I understand,
• 3:35:09
  it says things like the demons and all this kind of stuff.
• 3:35:12
  But let me throw something at you Tucker.
• 3:35:14
  This isn't exactly what I'm about to say to.
• 3:35:18
  You isn't something, I'm gonna be able to hit you with
• 3:35:20
  biblically but I wouldn't throw something at you.
• 3:35:23
  That's kind of Common Sense. Are you ready?
• 3:35:25
  Sure. So if let's say for example,
• 3:35:30
  another person where to take another person into their
• 3:35:33
  custody against their will and then that person were torture
• 3:35:37
  this person day and night over and over and over.
• 3:35:40
  Don't you think that the person assumed or later going to lose
• 3:35:43
  her mind if they're heard enough and they suffer enough sooner or
• 3:35:47
  later they're going to lose their identity, they're going to
• 3:35:50
  basically their minding going to be able to handle the trauma and
• 3:35:55
  all that pain. So they'll then eventually they
• 3:35:59
  will go out of their mind. You agree with that.
• 3:36:03
  Yeah I think the way it is that 100% I think that's how he was
• 3:36:08
  described. I would say, like, we're not, we
• 3:36:11
  now, the Bible doesn't say this, but I do believe that we do sort
• 3:36:17
  of lose our individuality in the sense that, like, I believe,
• 3:36:20
  they're that, the second death is was referred to.
• 3:36:23
  Um, I would say that, um, that is literally another form of
• 3:36:28
  death be separated from the grace of God.
• 3:36:31
  So, That's sort of how I would answer that. the second thing is
• 3:36:38
  this, you believe obviously on a Biblical level I think a
• 3:36:43
  majority of Christians agree with this that if God is not in
• 3:36:47
  your presence, he is the very source of your life if he is not
• 3:36:51
  a round or he is not basically How shall I say?
• 3:36:56
  Controling the universe, you simply can't exist unless he
• 3:37:00
  continues to allow your life to be.
• 3:37:03
  So if you are out of the presence of God, and he's no
• 3:37:06
  longer dealing with you or doesn't even know you anymore.
• 3:37:10
  How the hell are you still alive in any kind of fashion?
• 3:37:15
  Um, the way I would say it is we're so not me not like, you
• 3:37:19
  know, here's the thing people who are going to hell like not
• 3:37:23
  necessarily us. But like the people who are like
• 3:37:26
  in the second death, like they're gonna be resurrected.
• 3:37:29
  Every person is going to be resurrected and raised from the
• 3:37:32
  dead. So, the Saints will be
• 3:37:34
  resurrected before the Millennium, and they will have
• 3:37:39
  glorified bodies, likewise after the money.
• 3:37:42
  And this is how I read it because I do.
• 3:37:44
  I'm pre-millennium, I believe in a literal Millennial a kingdom.
• 3:37:49
  So when the money in comes after the Millennium is up the 1000
• 3:37:53
  year reign of Christ, the people who are in hell, will we raise
• 3:37:57
  from the dead too? And they will have
• 3:38:00
  indestructible bodies as well. So, You know, it's it's sad to
• 3:38:06
  think about but yeah, these people will have instructional
• 3:38:09
  bodies that will never burn up. Um, and they I'm not sure if you
• 3:38:15
  hold this but there's two separate judgments I seen Bible
• 3:38:18
  the do you hold to that? Yeah, I do hold that Jesus is
• 3:38:24
  going to raise the dead and all that.
• 3:38:26
  I I agree with you on that. And I also agree with glorified
• 3:38:30
  bodies here right on the money on this.
• 3:38:32
  But still it at some point in time, God plans on wiping out
• 3:38:38
  the world, right. And then he makes a second Earth
• 3:38:41
  and that's where all the glorified bodies and the good
• 3:38:44
  people actually stay. And then it says that doesn't
• 3:38:48
  say that the the those who deny or took upon the mark, they get
• 3:38:53
  thrown into the pit of the movie.
• 3:38:57
  Well. Like in the King James version,
• 3:39:01
  It's called the Lake of Fire, right?
• 3:39:03
  Well, Oblivion is basically it's a, it's kind of a void that goes
• 3:39:08
  on forever and ever where you will eventually lose your mind
• 3:39:11
  and lose your identity and all this.
• 3:39:13
  It's a it's also a kind of a, I hate to say it.
• 3:39:18
  You're probably think I'm a goofy for this but I'm big into
• 3:39:21
  Bethesda like Skyrim and Oblivion and all that kind of
• 3:39:24
  stuff and it kind of has a biblical sense to it.
• 3:39:27
  Where This souls go there, and they kind of the souls
• 3:39:31
  themselves. Not a physical body, actually
• 3:39:34
  start with away and becoming mindless, and they just don't
• 3:39:39
  care anymore and all that. And there's very, very little
• 3:39:43
  house. Like, say similarity between a
• 3:39:46
  person who's alive and what they are, they become like race or
• 3:39:50
  Phantoms or what is called, I believe faints or something like
• 3:39:54
  that. Do you know what I'm talking
• 3:39:56
  about? I when you say sky talking about
• 3:40:00
  the video game. Yeah.
• 3:40:01
  I was I believe in the video game as well and they got a they
• 3:40:06
  got a thing where they got their own concept of hell, but it's
• 3:40:08
  very similar to. It's obviously stole from the
• 3:40:12
  Bible views in order to do the lore.
• 3:40:16
  But in the lore Basically, Souls, they go and they wait,
• 3:40:20
  where these demons are controlling them and enslaved
• 3:40:23
  them and they start losing their identity.
• 3:40:26
  They their skins all pale. They still have like some of the
• 3:40:29
  crippling effects of what killed them whenever they were alive.
• 3:40:33
  And it's, it's absolutely horrific but at some point in
• 3:40:38
  time, they become mindless, they're just a husk.
• 3:40:42
  You get my point. Yeah.
• 3:40:44
  Regards to the demons. I I believe the demons are going
• 3:40:49
  to be punished in hell that you know the following angels will
• 3:40:52
  be punishing. How long was saying?
• 3:40:53
  I don't believe they're controlling hell, I don't like I
• 3:40:57
  believe that they're going to be thrown into hell.
• 3:40:59
  Um, but they're not going to like be controlling in control.
• 3:41:04
  They're going to suffer just as the people who get sent to Hell
• 3:41:09
  there too. They're not, they're not going
• 3:41:11
  to be in any different circumstance.
• 3:41:15
  That's what I hold to honestly. Because I believe the Bible
• 3:41:18
  supports that, you know, it's says in Revelation, I believe
• 3:41:23
  it's 12. A Revelation chapter 12.
• 3:41:27
  I don't remember the exact verse but says that's the deceiver of
• 3:41:31
  the world, Satan himself, the accuser of the Brethren will be
• 3:41:34
  cast into the Lake of Fire. I don't see any biblical support
• 3:41:37
  for seeing being the ruler of how in fact that would be
• 3:41:40
  rewarding him essentially for all the destruction he's caused.
• 3:41:48
  So if Satan is the God of this world and he's walking to and
• 3:41:52
  fro like the Book of Job says, then you have determined that he
• 3:41:57
  must not even be in Hell or have any kind of authority over it.
• 3:42:00
  But don't you, you believe that he's actually in the world as we
• 3:42:05
  speak as a physical manifestation or a spirit.
• 3:42:10
  Yeah, I'm not entirely sure about that.
• 3:42:12
  I know like one of the views like I'm not sure if you're
• 3:42:14
  familiar with the Anderson. Stephen Anderson.
• 3:42:21
  Are you talking about the guy? You talked about shooting
• 3:42:23
  people? Know.
• 3:42:26
  Okay, different Stephen Anderson.
• 3:42:28
  He's a pastor of a new IP church.
• 3:42:31
  Are you familiar with that? That's not sure.
• 3:42:35
  It only Steven Anderson. I remember, is a guy who
• 3:42:37
  mentored Matt Powell and all that got him into a lot of
• 3:42:41
  trouble. That's him.
• 3:42:45
  Yeah, he also like got his kids, bring his beating his kids, and
• 3:42:52
  his wife and That's what I'm talking about.
• 3:42:55
  That that's pasture. Um, so he holds the belief that
• 3:42:59
  Satan is vacillating between the current Heaven and the current
• 3:43:04
  Earth and that he hasn't been cast in like fire.
• 3:43:07
  So um, I do not believe that he's in the current heaven in
• 3:43:11
  the current, or if I just believe in, you know, I need to
• 3:43:14
  learn more about this but I believe he is in this world.
• 3:43:16
  I'm not really these. I believe he's been cast down
• 3:43:18
  from heaven into this world. So that's, that's a weird.
• 3:43:24
  It's weird Paradox for me Tucker because the reason why Is
• 3:43:30
  because I have heard some Christians.
• 3:43:32
  They say he's cast down, he's in hell right now.
• 3:43:35
  And there's angels that are bound by chains and all that,
• 3:43:37
  because they look at that Peter reference and all that.
• 3:43:41
  But then I got other ones who say.
• 3:43:43
  Yeah, but in the Book of Job, not only is he part of the world
• 3:43:46
  but somehow has, you know, he's got basically God in his phone
• 3:43:51
  contact. He's able to connect with God
• 3:43:54
  and they can actually have conversations.
• 3:43:56
  Remember book of Joe Joe's up, right?
• 3:43:59
  Satan comes forward starts to talk in the business with him so
• 3:44:03
  there's some kind of interaction is so going on there.
• 3:44:07
  Right. Yeah, that makes sense.
• 3:44:10
  Um, you know, that's so it's kind of confusing.
• 3:44:12
  That's the view that Anderson holds to where he's like, sort
• 3:44:15
  of vacillating between it but the thing that Sort of bizarre
• 3:44:19
  to me is like, heaven itself, is Incorruptible.
• 3:44:23
  The current Heaven is still Incorruptible.
• 3:44:26
  It's just that God's going to do away with That haven't the
• 3:44:30
  current heaven and he's going to create a second Earth.
• 3:44:32
  The new Earth. He's gonna bring Heaven down to
• 3:44:36
  that or is my understanding. So about the book Joe if I can
• 3:44:42
  just interject just for a quick second, one of the interesting
• 3:44:46
  things about that book is if you look at Judaism They kind of
• 3:44:53
  believe that Satan is not like God's enemy but he's like a
• 3:44:58
  Prosecuting lawyer Angel. He's created by God to test
• 3:45:03
  Mankind, and instead of being at odds with God, he's ultimately
• 3:45:08
  fulfilling God's purpose by testing Us in this life.
• 3:45:11
  That's all I wanted to add. Well, I think there's some
• 3:45:14
  religious people would actually have to agree and some amount
• 3:45:17
  away with that because if you say that Satan has his own will
• 3:45:21
  and he can do things outside of the will of God that caused a
• 3:45:25
  bit of a dichotomy. So, I think in some ways, people
• 3:45:28
  have to agree on some level, the evil that exists in the world at
• 3:45:33
  least subjective evil, which even atheists.
• 3:45:35
  I've heard them actually admit. There's evil in the world.
• 3:45:38
  They're they're, there's obviously, it's a part of the
• 3:45:42
  plan. It's part of the deal but I
• 3:45:45
  don't just see it. As how did you put it wrong?
• 3:45:48
  That he was like a sidekick God's Batman, he's robbing kind.
• 3:45:51
  Of thing where he's going out, finding all the bad people for
• 3:45:54
  God? Is that what you're getting out?
• 3:45:57
  Well, the idea amongst the many of the Jews, of course, in
• 3:46:03
  Judaism there allowed to have different opinions, like they
• 3:46:06
  can have different views unbelieving, Resurrection some
• 3:46:08
  believe in Solon isolation. So, you know, there, it's okay
• 3:46:13
  in Judaism to have those differences without being
• 3:46:15
  considered a heretic. um, but one of the main views that I've
• 3:46:20
  seen With the modern Jews is this not so much.
• 3:46:24
  A good cop, bad cop. It kind of is, but really Satan
• 3:46:28
  is supposed to be rooting for you because he's actually on
• 3:46:31
  God's side. He wants you to resist his
• 3:46:33
  Temptations. It's just his function as an
• 3:46:36
  angel to tempt you. That's what he does.
• 3:46:39
  That's ahead. He was known, he was known as
• 3:46:43
  the accuser and and that and Judaism.
• 3:46:48
  My correct, right Robin, but it Ron does have an interesting
• 3:46:54
  point and if there's any Christians out there, think me
• 3:46:57
  and Tucker and Ron or psychotic and out of her mind, come in and
• 3:47:00
  refute us that if you like. But there's an interesting point
• 3:47:04
  there. Because Satan did come to God
• 3:47:06
  and God was actually the first one to the initiated Joe's
• 3:47:10
  issue. And Satan says that, but I go
• 3:47:13
  down there, I screw with them, you already protect him.
• 3:47:15
  You got to shield around him so God's like, all right, see what
• 3:47:19
  you see what you can do. It sounds kind of cold, but
• 3:47:22
  there was definitely some amount of testing going on here, but
• 3:47:26
  not just between job and the Divine, but also between Satan
• 3:47:30
  and God. Satan's basically saying, oh,
• 3:47:33
  he'll just he'll he'll break. If you take your shield and
• 3:47:36
  protection away. So, there was a cosmic type of
• 3:47:40
  battle right there and an electrical level there.
• 3:47:43
  I don't know, some Christians noticed that, but I do.
• 3:47:47
  Um, I just sorry I just had to say, I do have to get going but
• 3:47:52
  like I appreciate having me on bread and it's great to meet Ron
• 3:47:55
  and Robin going to be both likewise.
• 3:47:57
  Yes, it was nice talking to you Tucker.
• 3:48:01
  I hope that you can continue to come in and don't be strange or
• 3:48:04
  and remember if you think that Uncle Brady's full of it.
• 3:48:08
  Sometimes, go ahead and let me know.
• 3:48:10
  All right. Absolutely, I don't like white
• 3:48:13
  here. I won't take offense.
• 3:48:14
  But yeah, thank you all. I appreciate all great night.
• 3:48:17
  See you later. They're Tucker be well.
• 3:48:21
  All right, so Robin and I hope that you get home safe and
• 3:48:25
  everything and turn off the cowbell so I can actually have a
• 3:48:28
  conversation with you as well. If you're ringing.
• 3:48:33
  That's not doing too. No, I don't hear any ringing
• 3:48:37
  anymore. I think you're doing well.
• 3:48:38
  What'd you do pull over inside the highway just so he could
• 3:48:41
  hear my wonderful voice. Know, I'm not.
• 3:48:46
  Right. I right.
• 3:49:00
  Yeah, that's a that's a weird conversation too because I I
• 3:49:07
  remember I ran I battled with the whole Trinity concept for
• 3:49:10
  quite a while before I was able to move over to Jesus as God,
• 3:49:14
  there was a while there and that was actually one of the passages
• 3:49:18
  that got me scratching my head because it says that God, LED
• 3:49:23
  Jesus out to deal with Satan. It didn't say Satan came and,
• 3:49:28
  you know, grab them in the middle of night.
• 3:49:29
  Took him out to be tested. It said, God LED Christ out
• 3:49:33
  there so that was one of those things that got me going, huh?
• 3:49:36
  If they're not too separate individuals and why is this
• 3:49:39
  happening? But my friend Tito are he's,
• 3:49:42
  he's went through with me for countless times, trying to help
• 3:49:46
  me understand how this works out.
• 3:49:48
  And all that, it says still a little bit of a challenge but it
• 3:49:52
  makes more sense. What teeth you are talking
• 3:49:54
  about. Am I understanding of the, the
• 3:49:58
  whole? Thing goes back to a word.
• 3:50:04
  That's used a lot. Not really in the New Testament.
• 3:50:06
  It's used a little bit. unlike when Jesus was on the cross and
• 3:50:10
  he called God, Ellie, it's kind of a contracted single form of
• 3:50:14
  that word, but it's called Elohim and that word can help
• 3:50:20
  with understanding the Trinity concept.
• 3:50:23
  Because Elohim is plural. But it's mostly used to refer to
• 3:50:28
  God in the singular. So it's almost like there's a
• 3:50:32
  essence of God, but there's multiple persons in that
• 3:50:36
  Essence. It's kind of how I understood
• 3:50:38
  the Trinity. You've got Holy Spirit, Jesus,
• 3:50:41
  and God, and their three persons, but they share this.
• 3:50:44
  Like one God Essence, they call it the godhood and some sects of
• 3:50:49
  Christianity, heard, godhead, godhead.
• 3:50:52
  Yes, you're correct. Yeah.
• 3:50:56
  So Ron you, you dictated before the year atheists and all that,
• 3:51:01
  but you seem to be very very knowledgeable.
• 3:51:04
  And you also mentioned, you were a former Chris and all that.
• 3:51:07
  I I noticed that you, whenever you're speaking about spiritual
• 3:51:12
  things you're usually go to is the Bible.
• 3:51:15
  You don't mention a whole lot of other religions.
• 3:51:18
  Oh, you do but not often as much as you like Christianity.
• 3:51:23
  Well, ones. Would you like to discuss?
• 3:51:25
  I'm pretty. Well versed in most of them.
• 3:51:27
  I'm just saying. It seems as though you're your
• 3:51:31
  go-to religion. If you got to use a religion for
• 3:51:33
  a knowledge, do you like going into the Christian once?
• 3:51:36
  And that's really man, I like that.
• 3:51:38
  I appreciate that. You you use the one that you
• 3:51:41
  think has the most information to provide for your analogies.
• 3:51:44
  I dig it. Right?
• 3:51:46
  Well, and I mean, Christianity is the one that that I had to
• 3:51:50
  really deconstruct from when I was younger.
• 3:51:52
  So I just, I just, you know, that's probably the one I dug
• 3:51:55
  into the most. The other ones that I've really
• 3:51:57
  dug into are like, The ones like I've dug into the Eastern ones
• 3:52:06
  and I've dug a lot into philosophy instead of like
• 3:52:08
  particular religions. Does that ever make you feel at
• 3:52:14
  all? So that you definitely have a
• 3:52:15
  connection with spirituality. Surely you've had to ask
• 3:52:19
  yourself even whenever you were going through the Niles point of
• 3:52:22
  view and your life. What is it that drives you to
• 3:52:25
  even bother with this? Why even waste your time kind of
• 3:52:28
  thing? But somehow you've had this
• 3:52:30
  insatiable hunger, and appetite for learning as much as you can
• 3:52:35
  about the stuff. You know, it all comes down to
• 3:52:39
  wanting a relationship with God if God's out there and I and you
• 3:52:42
  know, I feel like I do have a relationship now.
• 3:52:46
  But back then. Yes, it was.
• 3:52:47
  It was, you know, you constantly, I want to know the
• 3:52:52
  truth. If there's something to this,
• 3:52:54
  can I get to the truth of it, you know?
• 3:52:58
  You hear you Robin? I got a question for you if you
• 3:53:01
  don't mind. Go ahead.
• 3:53:04
  Do you think that it would hurt your hurt your your thought
• 3:53:09
  process at all to just simply say you know what, there's a
• 3:53:13
  good chance there may be a higher power out there.
• 3:53:15
  You can still go along with whatever your views are in
• 3:53:19
  flossophy as well as and even have some of the philosophy that
• 3:53:23
  you've heard from, non-believers just simply be atheist or
• 3:53:26
  agnostic, theist. Do you think it'd be an issue
• 3:53:30
  for you? so that that's my agnostic and
• 3:53:42
  my ideas and but I mean It's something that is like and false
• 3:53:51
  Fireball, you know, there's no way I can ever say that I know
• 3:53:54
  God does not exist because God is unfalsifiable thing, you
• 3:54:02
  know, it you cannot prove something does not exist.
• 3:54:04
  That's like, it's just, that's just not how like evidence
• 3:54:08
  works. But I don't believe it and like
• 3:54:13
  I go, I heard somebody say that they thought that you could
• 3:54:17
  choose your beliefs. I don't believe that.
• 3:54:18
  I don't believe that you choose your beliefs.
• 3:54:21
  I mean, I could say I believe I can pretend to believe but and
• 3:54:28
  and unless I really believe I could you know, it's not.
• 3:54:32
  I wouldn't be choosing that. Does that make sense, right?
• 3:54:35
  You believe in the possibility of God.
• 3:54:39
  I believe anything's possible the possibility is the part that
• 3:54:44
  is the issue cause like, lots of things are possible, you can say
• 3:54:48
  anything is possible because you cannot rule it out.
• 3:54:52
  You know, it's just so hard to falsify something officially
• 3:54:59
  something as like a god. because, you know, first off, if
• 3:55:06
  he's outside of space and time, there's nowhere, there's no
• 3:55:09
  place. I can investigate that you do.
• 3:55:11
  Realize Robyn, you put yourself in kind of a paradox.
• 3:55:14
  So don't you, if you state that you're an atheist and
• 3:55:18
  classically, that means you I can believe in deities, not just
• 3:55:21
  Christian God, but all gods. But yeah, if you turn around,
• 3:55:26
  say, get you believe in the possibility of God, that puts
• 3:55:30
  you in a weird position, either you lack of belief or you do
• 3:55:33
  believe that he's possible or it, Don't believe that I got his
• 3:55:39
  ideas and he got I don't believe any gods exist.
• 3:55:43
  I do not say that God is impossible though.
• 3:55:46
  I mean, because God, anything is possible.
• 3:55:50
  That's like no way to rule something out.
• 3:55:54
  Of like, essentially something like a god, which could exist in
• 3:55:58
  a place that I cannot investigate, you know, like
• 3:56:01
  outside of space and time or something like that.
• 3:56:04
  Yeah. And so there's no way I can so
• 3:56:06
  pause. I say possible its plausibility
• 3:56:11
  that is more like I'm concerned about like is it plausible and
• 3:56:16
  that that means you know, is it like me?
• 3:56:18
  You're is it more like me? And not I don't think that it's
• 3:56:22
  plausible. I mean there is a God and maybe
• 3:56:26
  there's a God that I've never heard of that.
• 3:56:28
  Like you said that exists. Um, I don't believe in the
• 3:56:33
  Christian God, I think that the Christian God is to has too many
• 3:56:37
  contradict logical contradictions. like all loving,
• 3:56:44
  but will you do realize you do realize, and unfortunately,
• 3:56:50
  robbing their Christians, that make a mistake on this.
• 3:56:53
  The it is true that the Bible has verses like God loves the
• 3:56:57
  world and all this kind of stuff.
• 3:56:59
  He's so loved the world. He sent his only begotten son,
• 3:57:02
  but there are passages that very clearly indicate God hates evil,
• 3:57:07
  God hates workers of iniquity aquity, is those who
• 3:57:12
  intentionally and deliberately sin are transgressive against
• 3:57:16
  the long commandments. So God admits biblically that he
• 3:57:19
  is not always up to par with what people are doing.
• 3:57:24
  Just for some reason, some Christians miss that, I guess,
• 3:57:27
  Ron. Did you have something?
• 3:57:29
  Because I accidentally interrupted you, Oh no, I don't
• 3:57:35
  think he interrupted me. Um you may have just heard
• 3:57:37
  something in the background. I thought I had my mic needed,
• 3:57:40
  but maybe I did. He sound like you're about to
• 3:57:42
  push something out and I went right over and and I apologize
• 3:57:48
  for that. If you had something at the
• 3:57:50
  moment, oh, Let me think oh I think Robin had said something
• 3:57:55
  about not being able to choose your beliefs.
• 3:57:57
  I had said something about that earlier, but it wasn't so much
• 3:58:02
  about choosing beliefs. It was about choosing hope, I
• 3:58:06
  had got to a point in my nihilism where I was hopeless.
• 3:58:10
  And what I chose to do was to just have hope and I didn't even
• 3:58:13
  necessarily know what I was having hope in.
• 3:58:17
  I just had to do it or I felt like I was gonna die from how
• 3:58:20
  depressed I was. Um, but yeah, it was just that
• 3:58:25
  big thing. It was it kind of like, kind of
• 3:58:28
  like how you could choose to see the half glass full of the half
• 3:58:30
  glass empty, it was that kind of thing.
• 3:58:32
  It wasn't necessarily accusing of my spiritual beliefs because
• 3:58:36
  I agree with you if you were at cannot currently see any
• 3:58:41
  evidence anywhere that you look of any kind of spiritual stuff
• 3:58:43
  then for you to say, yeah I believe you, you just said to
• 3:58:48
  yourself. So, I mean, at least, you're
• 3:58:50
  being intellectually honest. Do you agree?
• 3:58:53
  They'll robbing and Rondo that if you were to put yourself in
• 3:58:57
  place of an investigator, a detective and you've been given
• 3:59:01
  a really hard case where you got to prove somebody did wrong or
• 3:59:04
  something objectively wrong or right?
• 3:59:07
  You got to have this kind of desire and you where you at
• 3:59:12
  least want to solve the case. If you do not have the ability
• 3:59:15
  to at least motivate yourself to want to do it or choose to do it
• 3:59:20
  then, You're you're in some it's gonna be extremely difficult to
• 3:59:25
  build. Solve the problem.
• 3:59:26
  You agree. Several years investigating.
• 3:59:33
  I feel like So um, research skills are your investigating?
• 3:59:44
  I know I'm just telling you I mean I have been but I just
• 3:59:49
  don't see that. I was like when you saw my evil
• 3:59:54
  Did do you think God created evil?
• 3:59:57
  Yes. Okay.
• 3:59:59
  All right because I don't say the Bible does say that.
• 4:00:02
  God says he created evil. Yeah, Isaiah 45:7, I formed the
• 4:00:08
  light in the darkness. I create peace and evil.
• 4:00:11
  I the Lord do all these things. Yeah, I believe that.
• 4:00:14
  I believe that it was part of the reason why evil objective
• 4:00:18
  evil and objective good needed to exist.
• 4:00:20
  As in order for us as a sentient beings, it was the only way to
• 4:00:26
  incorporate Free Will and choice.
• 4:00:28
  That's the only way we could have went along with this plan
• 4:00:32
  or as well to be able to experience both sides of the
• 4:00:36
  equation that that makes sense. Ron, do you have another view on
• 4:00:39
  that? Um, I don't know if God intended
• 4:00:43
  for evil to be a part of this process. of creation of folding,
• 4:00:48
  you know, I don't know if that was part of the plan but I do
• 4:00:54
  know what, I see evil. As I see evil kind of his like,
• 4:00:57
  two types. Ultimately one type, but it kind
• 4:01:01
  of manifests two ways. I'll see evil as a concrete
• 4:01:05
  thing in and of itself. I see it as a lack of something,
• 4:01:09
  kind of the way darkness is the absence of light or you know a
• 4:01:15
  vacuum is the absence of air. I think evil.
• 4:01:22
  I would agree with that. Yes, I agree with your like your
• 4:01:26
  explanation because I think overall stuff is good.
• 4:01:29
  Like I think goodness is pretty much what exists so when there's
• 4:01:33
  evil it's because there's a lack of that goodness or the other
• 4:01:36
  type. I was talking about is the
• 4:01:38
  twisting or the corrupting of that goodness.
• 4:01:42
  All right, I understand your point on that and I know I'm
• 4:01:46
  probably going to get under skin of some religious folks out
• 4:01:49
  there, but I when the Bible says that God created all things, you
• 4:01:54
  can't say well that he didn't create that, you know, I mean
• 4:01:57
  it's you going to find yourself in a dichotomy there, so you
• 4:02:01
  might as well embrace it, accept it for what it is.
• 4:02:04
  And as far as evil goes, God has a bit of a different perspective
• 4:02:09
  than most humans have whenever it comes to it.
• 4:02:12
  God proceeds, evil, as those who disobey him are, are go against
• 4:02:17
  him intentionally and deliberately.
• 4:02:18
  Yeah, those who have knowledge that he actually exists, yet
• 4:02:24
  they can continue to do their ways, that that makes sense.
• 4:02:29
  Yeah, it makes sense. Are you guys familiar with with
• 4:02:32
  religion called taoism? Yes.
• 4:02:36
  One of the main tenants from their main text.
• 4:02:39
  Is that there's a way? And that's basically what dial
• 4:02:43
  means is the way they talk about.
• 4:02:45
  How if you live in alignment, with that way you'll live, if
• 4:02:48
  you live out of alignment with that way you'll die, And that
• 4:02:52
  kind of sounds like what you were just saying about God in
• 4:02:55
  like the biblical, you know. I, I believe that they're from
• 4:03:04
  listening and unbelievers. I believe that there are some
• 4:03:07
  and I'm not trying to thin atheist out there, but some of
• 4:03:10
  the atheists they want to know. They, some of them actually want
• 4:03:14
  their to be a god. They just can't get themself
• 4:03:17
  around whatever. The issue is, it's in front of
• 4:03:20
  her face. But there are others who I think
• 4:03:24
  are know that God exists, but they hate him.
• 4:03:26
  They're like a mouth. Yes.
• 4:03:28
  I think that there is some out there that that they seem God
• 4:03:33
  they would become violent and aggressive from their own words
• 4:03:36
  like Aaron Rodgers. Well as Matt Dillon hunting,
• 4:03:39
  they said if they seem God they would hit him.
• 4:03:42
  They would kick him right between his legs.
• 4:03:45
  So there's something wrong. Our arm is being a little
• 4:03:49
  hyperbolic maybe on that. He was, he looked pretty
• 4:03:54
  passionate about what he's saying, and obviously, this is a
• 4:03:58
  term. I haven't heard in a long time.
• 4:04:03
  But yeah, it's it's what some of them have said.
• 4:04:06
  So I do believe that there are some people out there who do
• 4:04:09
  know, but they label themself this for every billion
• 4:04:12
  statement. I believe that there's others
• 4:04:14
  who honestly don't know, and they're trying to figure out
• 4:04:18
  doing the best they can and all that, but it's really a matter
• 4:04:22
  and I know this sucks I hate to because patience is a virtue for
• 4:04:26
  me. Sometimes, you just got to wait
• 4:04:28
  for God, to do something through an experience, or maybe he'll
• 4:04:32
  manifest himself in some way for people to see. now there are
• 4:04:37
  some people that actually do believe that we live in an evil
• 4:04:40
  world and it was created by an evil, God, like there are people
• 4:04:43
  out there that have this idea that the reason there's so much
• 4:04:47
  suffering and stuff in the world is because God wants it that
• 4:04:51
  way, like, God gets energy from that or some kind of a sick kick
• 4:04:54
  out of it. I don't agree with that, but
• 4:04:56
  there are people think that way, The elastic sort of sort of
• 4:05:01
  believe like that the gnostics. Yeah, they believe that because
• 4:05:05
  they believe that the god, that created the demagogue demigod,
• 4:05:10
  demon, demon there, what he, may or G?
• 4:05:15
  I can't say the word. Yeah, that he's evil or
• 4:05:18
  whatever. And she Jesus brought the secret
• 4:05:23
  information, or whatever, to get away from this world.
• 4:05:27
  I am. Yeah, you have to try to keep
• 4:05:30
  from coming back here because usually they believe that when
• 4:05:32
  you die, you're sent back your to live again.
• 4:05:35
  He wouldn't be weird though. Ron.
• 4:05:38
  I mean, if you think about it, what's entertaining the idea for
• 4:05:41
  a moment that God is like this tyrannical monster who enjoys
• 4:05:46
  watching little ants fry under the microscope or whatever
• 4:05:50
  magnifying glasses, usually, with these, right?
• 4:05:52
  So what's entertainment for a moment?
• 4:05:55
  If you did get in front, if you did approach or interact with
• 4:05:59
  such a God, and how would you be able to, even if it allowed you
• 4:06:04
  to have a philosophical discussion with it?
• 4:06:07
  What would you say to it? It's evil.
• 4:06:10
  What you've been doing. It's gonna be like, well, I
• 4:06:13
  create a good and evil. I did all these things.
• 4:06:15
  What are you gonna do about it? I mean what it's not just a
• 4:06:18
  might and power but how could you philosophically argue with
• 4:06:22
  something that made objective reality in that sense?
• 4:06:25
  The only thing you could choose to do would be to either do what
• 4:06:29
  it was worse than you already are.
• 4:06:31
  I mean, you really can't win in a situation like that.
• 4:06:35
  Yeah. I thought of that that kind of
• 4:06:40
  thing too. I kind of tickled our mouth.
• 4:06:42
  He is in a while back. When I when I first started
• 4:06:45
  getting out of the atheist State, I went to DSM.
• 4:06:50
  I told japonism even dabbled in the theism because I was having
• 4:06:54
  a problem with the question of evil for a little bit there.
• 4:06:57
  I was like, Maybe there is a God, maybe he's got to deal
• 4:07:01
  nature and he's got like a, you know, he wakes up from the wrong
• 4:07:05
  side of the cloud one day. I don't know.
• 4:07:06
  And he just, you know, what I mean?
• 4:07:09
  I don't know. I, I hope people I know.
• 4:07:12
  God's got a sense of humor, he wouldn't have created me.
• 4:07:15
  So that's, he gave my point he'll run.
• 4:07:21
  Yeah. That's that used to be something
• 4:07:25
  my dabble that I thought about that boy that I get some heat
• 4:07:28
  for that one. So how was your day been Ron and
• 4:07:36
  Robin? By the way house things going
• 4:07:38
  for you Around. It's been.
• 4:07:45
  Okay? Robin, are you a truck driver?
• 4:07:48
  Yes, sir. Cool.
• 4:07:53
  Cool. Now, Robin, you're not just
• 4:07:58
  driving the truck. You actually have to get out
• 4:08:00
  physically yanked on those cows. Know, I don't okay to their time
• 4:08:14
  and start my pump. He take the milk to some kind of
• 4:08:18
  company where they like fix it modeling.
• 4:08:21
  Plant. Yeah, the bottling plant where
• 4:08:23
  they passed your eyes and homogenize it and mix it because
• 4:08:27
  like you know there's mixtures for like 2% whole milk and 1%
• 4:08:33
  and stuff like that. So, Yeah.
• 4:08:39
  That's where I've been to the milk plant.
• 4:08:42
  It must feel free to be a truck driver, be able to drive all
• 4:08:46
  around and be able to see all the sights and all that.
• 4:08:49
  Are you just stuck like a routine Road?
• 4:08:53
  But I used to drive over the road.
• 4:08:55
  I went to actually to Mount Saint Helens once in my truck.
• 4:09:02
  Pretty blue up the first time, you know, before it began.
• 4:09:05
  But Yeah. So yeah.
• 4:09:09
  It was pretty cool. I've been a lot of places in my
• 4:09:12
  truck. I've been to We're custard like
• 4:09:17
  Custer's last day, is the Little Big Horn.
• 4:09:19
  I've been around that there. I'm, I've been to every state
• 4:09:24
  except driving, of course, I haven't been to Hawaii driving,
• 4:09:27
  but I did go to Hawaii once. I've been I drove in every state
• 4:09:31
  besides Hawaii. Alaska and Maine.
• 4:09:35
  Wow. It's pretty interesting.
• 4:09:38
  I never been to Hawaii before I thought about it, but a couple
• 4:09:42
  years ago, didn't it blow up too.
• 4:09:46
  Well, they have a volcano but that's not on like the Maui like
• 4:09:49
  a wahoo Island where we're Honolulu is is on Oahu.
• 4:09:54
  And there's not, there's not an active volcano on a wall.
• 4:10:00
  Like I've been I'm with Pearl Harbor.
• 4:10:02
  That was probably the Most memorable, like thing that ever
• 4:10:07
  seen this Pearl. Harbor.
• 4:10:08
  It actually, I was, you know, I believed I would like to go back
• 4:10:12
  there because I was a believer, when I went there and When you
• 4:10:19
  stand there, you can hear those planes come around that like
• 4:10:24
  where that, you know, like how I'm sure you've watched movies
• 4:10:28
  about. Yes.
• 4:10:29
  And you know, when you're standing there, the guy that's
• 4:10:36
  the telling you about what, you know, how everything was because
• 4:10:40
  they got they kind of sit like that out, you know, for you.
• 4:10:44
  It's like, you can almost hear that those planes come in. and,
• 4:10:49
  I just wonder. Now if I would get that same
• 4:10:51
  sense like that, but it's it's very strange.
• 4:10:55
  It's, it's makes your skin the hair on your arms, stand up.
• 4:11:00
  Yes. because the, you know, the battleships, some of them are
• 4:11:06
  still sunk in the harbor and one of them still leaks oil Like
• 4:11:12
  took the gun. You know, they took the gun off
• 4:11:15
  the Gunner things. So that's what you see is just
• 4:11:18
  for the Gunner, the gun would see it, but because it's very
• 4:11:22
  shallow like water there in Pearl Harbor.
• 4:11:29
  Wow. so, you felt some all Yeah, you do but you know but I like
• 4:11:36
  grew up my dad so like a fanatic over, reward two movies like he
• 4:11:41
  watches him all the time. Like so like you know, so I'll
• 4:11:45
  probably watched know, tell me where two movies and So, you
• 4:11:51
  know, I had a real good sense of what.
• 4:11:54
  You know, and like when I went there, there was still like a
• 4:11:58
  veteran there that gave the tours and everything that was
• 4:12:01
  there, that day. I think he has since died
• 4:12:04
  because I like on the History Channel and they they had I've
• 4:12:09
  seen him on there before, you know, but he was really old then
• 4:12:12
  and It was very it like I said, it was the probably the most
• 4:12:22
  memorable trip. It's a long flight though and I
• 4:12:24
  don't think that I want to be on an airplane that long anymore
• 4:12:28
  right now. With the flying record that we
• 4:12:33
  have so far right recently. Yeah, that's good because it's
• 4:12:37
  like it's like eight hours over water.
• 4:12:40
  I mean from the time you leave, California coast.
• 4:12:43
  He get to Honolulu is like eight hours.
• 4:12:51
  Where else are you wanting to visit that you have?
• 4:12:53
  Yeah. I'd like to go to Ireland and
• 4:12:57
  Greece. Boy, you want to go there for?
• 4:13:03
  If I'm Irish, I'm gonna go to Ireland.
• 4:13:06
  There you go on the red hair, right?
• 4:13:10
  Yep, I'm Irish and Greece. I would love to go grease.
• 4:13:14
  I just always like the Greek myths and everything.
• 4:13:17
  I just always I love those. The all the Greek myths and
• 4:13:24
  stuff and I tell Achilles all the time that if I come over
• 4:13:27
  here he's going to show me, right?
• 4:13:31
  He probably would have if you if you connect with them more.
• 4:13:34
  You guys go around Greece together.
• 4:13:39
  Yeah, but I probably won't. I don't see me making it over
• 4:13:42
  there unless like I win the lottery or something.
• 4:13:45
  But I would like to see Greece. How is it pretty expensive going
• 4:13:52
  over there? Probably more than milk truck
• 4:13:55
  driver tonight. Know, you never know.
• 4:14:04
  He might you might have some people send me some money to
• 4:14:08
  cash app or something. Let's go do that.
• 4:14:13
  If you if you tell the guy, I don't know how well he is or
• 4:14:17
  not. But say to him.
• 4:14:18
  Hey, I really would like to go hang out with you and go running
• 4:14:22
  around and grease and stuff in trouble.
• 4:14:24
  We can get ourselves in. Maybe he'll help you out or not.
• 4:14:28
  No, I don't think he'll be that. Um, but it would be the only
• 4:14:34
  person I would know, in Greece, actually.
• 4:14:35
  So I guess I would probably go ahead and look him up though.
• 4:14:37
  If I get a warning, I'm coming. Well, if you want me to, I can
• 4:14:43
  bug and see if I can get him to do that for you.
• 4:14:48
  Know, it's fine. I mean, But I like killing,
• 4:14:53
  though. Well, next time I talked to him,
• 4:14:58
  I say, you know, Robin wants to get over there and visit the
• 4:15:00
  place and all that. You got any room in your your
• 4:15:03
  home. And all that would do I take her
• 4:15:06
  around for tour, make sure she'll get yourself in trouble.
• 4:15:10
  He would throw. I'm sure he would take me to her
• 4:15:13
  if I'm sure probably. So I like, oh, yeah.
• 4:15:26
  I don't. I don't know.
• 4:15:28
  I mean like they had all the fires.
• 4:15:31
  They're not not too long ago that was bad but I think they
• 4:15:35
  finally got them under control, I think I don't know if it's too
• 4:15:40
  personal, the question, but what state you from?
• 4:15:44
  I'm a Kentucky. All right let me check out how
• 4:15:47
  much something like this cost. I'm in Kentucky right now.
• 4:15:52
  Well, I'm actually in Tennessee right now because my milk goes
• 4:15:55
  Tennessee. So, Okay, Kentucky degrees. and
• 4:16:03
  you say, that'd be a long time in here, too.
• 4:16:08
  That's why deals from Louisville.
• 4:16:12
  Agrees is Louisville, Kentucky. Yeah, there's that, yeah, yeah.
• 4:16:16
  So the cheapest I can get you around trip is 9006.
• 4:16:24
  Not too bad. Is it 9006?
• 4:16:28
  4-H how much, how long is the flight?
• 4:16:34
  Well, according to Microsoft being which is giving me the
• 4:16:38
  travel information, you can get over there and back for 906 and
• 4:16:43
  if we can get our boy to let you stay with him and he gives you a
• 4:16:49
  tour and everything. Then, there you go, most of your
• 4:16:52
  food issues, be taken care of, in that way.
• 4:16:55
  If he's willing to do it. Hey Ron, welcome back.
• 4:16:59
  Oh, really, what are you? If you serious about this, I
• 4:17:06
  will. I'll talk to him about it and
• 4:17:08
  how maybe we'll meet Steven and him may run, like, some kind of
• 4:17:12
  go fund me thing or something, to get you some money, so you
• 4:17:16
  can get over there and do things if you if you really want to do
• 4:17:20
  it, then why not? Well, first off work. that's not
• 4:17:26
  like, Very easy right now. All right.
• 4:17:33
  Well, if we did a go fund me and all that we could, we could also
• 4:17:37
  talk to the people about that too.
• 4:17:39
  So look, there's gonna she's gonna need some money if she's
• 4:17:42
  not able to do her job. At this point.
• 4:17:45
  It's really unfortunately getting a break from your job.
• 4:17:48
  That's going to be on your end. But as far as an absolute to try
• 4:17:53
  If you really want it, you know, I'll talk to them.
• 4:17:56
  See if we put our heads together and come up with a thought,
• 4:17:58
  okay, I'm sorry. Achilles Yeah.
• 4:18:10
  I just got a, I got to see how he feels about having a lift, or
• 4:18:14
  you've talked to him before the interact with them.
• 4:18:17
  So, this isn't, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm Yeah, I'm on their Channel
• 4:18:25
  actually. All right, he might have some he
• 4:18:29
  might have his own personal price at the pay like he gets a
• 4:18:33
  baptized in the river or something.
• 4:18:35
  I don't know. We'll see.
• 4:18:44
  I don't think oh, because like all they have lost churches over
• 4:18:53
  there and he doesn't want to be baptized by one of them.
• 4:18:57
  I think it's what I think. I don't remember that story,
• 4:18:59
  right? But like if he ever comes over
• 4:19:01
  here, he wants saving or Can't Buy closing or something.
• 4:19:06
  Really. Yeah, who's the I can't
• 4:19:11
  recognize? Yeah.
• 4:19:13
  I'm think I'm remembering that, right?
• 4:19:14
  That that's the way he might. I'm pretty sure that's pretty
• 4:19:18
  close to what I did. Is the guy in your avatar.
• 4:19:23
  Bruce Springsteen, is it. Yeah.
• 4:19:27
  Oh boy, got up there. Let me yeah, he probably not
• 4:19:36
  gonna like this very much but Donald Trump recently made a
• 4:19:39
  video about him where he hits the ball while playing golf and
• 4:19:43
  it and you see Bruce get hit with the ball and fall down and
• 4:19:47
  Stage. Oh, Donald Trump did not make
• 4:19:50
  that video. Don't try and cannot work a
• 4:19:53
  computer. you don't think he know he is like Take illiterate
• 4:20:00
  hmm he's probably and so I can't really see some videos where he
• 4:20:12
  does have a young woman and other people who must surround
• 4:20:16
  with them. Put out his tweets but he
• 4:20:19
  actually tells them exactly what the put and he does like control
• 4:20:22
  people. He puts goofy stuff up on this.
• 4:20:25
  Twitter, you ever used to Twitter?
• 4:20:29
  Know, I used to go, I used to be on some but after Elon bought it
• 4:20:34
  and it turned out to be like a place for meeting place for not
• 4:20:38
  seasoned things, I just got off of it, Nazi I think.
• 4:20:43
  Yeah, it's not good for my mental health.
• 4:20:46
  You know, many people think Elon Musk is a Nazi, do you?
• 4:20:53
  I don't know what he is. He did do some dude.
• 4:20:57
  Well, I don't know if you knew this about him but he's got
• 4:21:01
  autism. He he was up, he was up on
• 4:21:05
  stage, he was excited and he just threw his hand out.
• 4:21:08
  Like he was blowing a kiss and stuff, they showed the part
• 4:21:12
  where its arms out, but they don't show the part where he's
• 4:21:15
  like, you know, and putting it out there.
• 4:21:19
  Oh yeah. Murray.
• 4:21:26
  Stage and jumped up and down and acted like a wild animals, so he
• 4:21:36
  just he wasn't, I don't know, I don't care much for you.
• 4:21:47
  Like there's some news companies that are saying that that's not
• 4:21:51
  what happened. What happened was, is he made it
• 4:21:54
  clear from the get-go that he was going to have to go back to
• 4:21:57
  his business? But he would leave some of his
• 4:22:00
  young apprentices to continue to work through those.
• 4:22:03
  But the news media said, oh, they had a disagreement.
• 4:22:06
  The only disagreement they really had, was he feels like
• 4:22:10
  Trump should be harder on that. South African leader who's been
• 4:22:14
  killing a white farmers. Believed that like one of the
• 4:22:21
  pictures Trump show was from the Congo not from, I believe that
• 4:22:25
  that is just alive. I mean, there are there.
• 4:22:28
  They do have a murder rate. and there are a lot of farmers
• 4:22:33
  killed, but actually there's a lot of black like Farm Workers
• 4:22:38
  who killed too in those when I was the nice tackles Farms
• 4:22:42
  because they're You know, they're like a terrorist sort of
• 4:22:47
  group in that country. This way, I understand it, but I
• 4:22:51
  don't believe there's a white genocide at all that, like
• 4:22:54
  those, those pictures that he showed of that, like those those
• 4:22:58
  Grays and stuff, there's like black people buried there too,
• 4:23:02
  those markers, they're not great.
• 4:23:05
  Anyway, they're markers like more of things but video, our
• 4:23:10
  next social media where that very guy, that was in the office
• 4:23:14
  or White House with President Trump.
• 4:23:16
  He the guy actually has himself recorded recently where he he's
• 4:23:22
  actually commanding. That people take over people's
• 4:23:24
  lands and killing anybody who doesn't allow him to take over
• 4:23:30
  their land. Well, that's why he recommended
• 4:23:37
  for you to join X. If you did, I'd be able to send
• 4:23:41
  you stuff all the time. That's where I like to
• 4:23:44
  communicate when I'm not doing YouTube.
• 4:23:58
  Guy and he doesn't work with the government.
• 4:24:06
  He is a crazy person but there was like there was actually
• 4:24:09
  white people that came with the president over there.
• 4:24:14
  That was not true. Hi.
• 4:24:21
  You know, so I, I understand that you're looking at YouTube
• 4:24:24
  videos and all that and there is more of a liberal slant, but I
• 4:24:29
  have a lot of videos on my my social media and I'm gonna give
• 4:24:34
  it to you in a moment and you'll be able to look through it.
• 4:24:37
  Even if you're not a member where you see white Farmers
• 4:24:40
  actually out on Mike saying, yeah, we're being killed.
• 4:24:44
  Just recently, a white man was shot in his back and then they
• 4:24:48
  shot his wife several times. So she was on the ground
• 4:24:51
  murdered the people there are farmers, you get killed and and
• 4:24:56
  some of the black people that worked those Farms with, for
• 4:25:00
  those people are being healed, that guy like, But it's not the
• 4:25:06
  government, it's like this terrorist Guy.
• 4:25:11
  The one that like Trump showed me out that one crazy guy like
• 4:25:14
  and it's him and he's not a government official, like he is.
• 4:25:21
  He's a terrorist in that kind of Okay, well they considered him
• 4:25:29
  the news, they said that he was a leader over there and he came
• 4:25:34
  and to the White House. Trump shook his hand, they sat
• 4:25:38
  down and talked and then Trump turned on the TV and so to him
• 4:25:41
  all that stuff. It wasn't the guy that was the
• 4:25:46
  president of South Africa was not the guy that was on the
• 4:25:50
  video. The guy that was on the video
• 4:25:51
  did used to be in the government and he actually was like the
• 4:25:57
  party is the party that the presidency in and opposition
• 4:26:02
  party actually went together. They got together and joined
• 4:26:07
  forces to also that guy that crazy guy out of the government.
• 4:26:12
  So he's banned from like being in a holding office and he got
• 4:26:23
  well because you hollering back telling people to kill people.
• 4:26:28
  You know, I mean, but I robbing I'm not trying to do a gotcha
• 4:26:33
  moment or anything. But didn't you say earlier that
• 4:26:35
  there was no actual killing going on?
• 4:26:38
  And and now you say, people were getting, I said that people
• 4:26:41
  getting killed but I said that the president is not committing,
• 4:26:45
  like the government of South Africa is not committing white
• 4:26:48
  genocide. That's what I said.
• 4:26:49
  It is, it is a terrorist, a person who is considered a
• 4:26:54
  terrorist like, in that, that is telling people to do that.
• 4:26:57
  He is not worked with the government and they are killing
• 4:27:02
  white Farmers. That guy is getting like Farmers
• 4:27:05
  killed. And they're also our black
• 4:27:07
  people who work on those Farms who are also killed too like
• 4:27:11
  it's It's not really specific thing about being white.
• 4:27:16
  As much as it is the farmland and like he's encouraging like
• 4:27:22
  starting, you know, trouble, the sky is like, but he hasn't
• 4:27:26
  actually killed anybody himself. So I guess they don't know what
• 4:27:29
  their laws are about, how they evolved work on like inside any
• 4:27:34
  violence or whatever. I don't know.
• 4:27:36
  But I mean, there was like, all the people that came with the
• 4:27:41
  president over, there were so good at him and and denied these
• 4:27:47
  charges and the picture that Trump showed one of them was
• 4:27:50
  from the Congo. Not from South Africa.
• 4:27:57
  Why wouldn't be shocked that there are some people?
• 4:28:00
  From the Congo that are over there and all that.
• 4:28:04
  I mean the Congo has been in a civil war for years so it's it's
• 4:28:08
  already got its own fighting going on, you know it's a I mean
• 4:28:11
  it's been like War torn for decades now.
• 4:28:15
  He's got no problem with me talking to those guys.
• 4:28:23
  See if we can get you over to Greece.
• 4:28:27
  No, no. I'm sorry.
• 4:28:36
  What did you? I don't know, I don't think
• 4:28:42
  maybe Kelly's may not ever thought that would be wind up,
• 4:28:46
  showing up over there. He might not be for that.
• 4:28:49
  He? Might be telling me he was
• 4:28:51
  showing me around because he didn't like that ever be there.
• 4:28:55
  Well, I I think that it would be, I think that he really he
• 4:29:01
  told me I love Greece. So to have a person there with
• 4:29:05
  him that he can walk around, show off all the sights.
• 4:29:08
  I think that would be very enjoyable for him.
• 4:29:13
  So yeah. I like Achilles.
• 4:29:16
  I like him. We you know I've been watching
• 4:29:20
  them for a long time and he has a good heart.
• 4:29:23
  You know. He's a he used to race bikes and
• 4:29:26
  stuff he's like he's really good.
• 4:29:29
  Motocross racer like Very was he told me a little bit about that.
• 4:29:35
  I so he he didn't tell me if he was professional or not.
• 4:29:39
  What the deal is. Yeah, I guess he was.
• 4:29:43
  Yeah, because he came over here once he used to racing America.
• 4:29:48
  Wow. I know that.
• 4:29:53
  Yep. He's better than most outside
• 4:30:00
  anyway. I mean, I think it was
• 4:30:02
  professional like, you know, semi operation or something.
• 4:30:05
  I mean, he breaks in America like With other people.
• 4:30:11
  Other Racers. So good.
• 4:30:13
  He went to like, you see California, Maybe.
• 4:30:18
  I can't even, but Yeah, he's very interesting.
• 4:30:24
  That's pretty cool. Looks like we got some muddy
• 4:30:29
  here, let me see. Oh, it's Ron.
• 4:30:31
  Welcome back round. Run.
• 4:30:36
  Oh, Hey, Ron. Oh What's that mean?
• 4:30:43
  Oh not much, I just sorry I dipped out there for a minute.
• 4:30:46
  I had to go for a few minutes deal with some health stuff but
• 4:30:51
  I'm back. All right well but I'll be back
• 4:30:54
  man. Say what?
• 4:30:58
  I'm sorry. I'm stuffing my face dinner but
• 4:31:03
  I said I'm glad you're back. Oh yeah.
• 4:31:06
  Yep. Is Robin still here?
• 4:31:08
  Yeah, she is. We're trying to get her degree.
• 4:31:19
  Oh, thank you, baby. Hello.
• 4:31:29
  Hello. That's my wife.
• 4:31:34
  She was saying hi people. If you don't like to hang out,
• 4:31:39
  or no. YouTube.
• 4:31:42
  Not after what they did to her a while back.
• 4:31:45
  Oh yeah, she's that. She used to hang out sometimes,
• 4:31:48
  back in the day, but that was, as long time ago Dawn, right?
• 4:31:54
  Yeah. Okay.
• 4:31:56
  That's used to do like a cooking and gardening videos and you
• 4:32:01
  know talk about the kids and all that she had her own channel.
• 4:32:04
  Oh Yeah, Yeahs on channel and unfortunately I was still a I
• 4:32:12
  was so like an atheist at the time I wasn't close to dropping
• 4:32:16
  out just yet but we started getting.
• 4:32:18
  She started getting messages and all that and people saying they
• 4:32:23
  wanted to do horrible shit to her and That they were going to,
• 4:32:26
  you know, kill our kids and turn on the second kind of thing.
• 4:32:29
  So she's like, well Brad I don't think I want to do this anymore.
• 4:32:32
  She goes I'm not even doing any videos towards it.
• 4:32:36
  Non-believers are religious people and and getting all this
• 4:32:40
  shit. Oh yeah.
• 4:32:42
  That's messed up. That's you know, David wood.
• 4:32:47
  Don't you David would yeah. That did the testimonial on a
• 4:32:52
  subway. I don't know.
• 4:32:55
  I don't know if he did that or not but he's like went to prison
• 4:32:58
  for like hitting his dad and the head with a hammer.
• 4:33:00
  Yeah that's that's helped me actually talks about it in this.
• 4:33:04
  He's got a video where he walks through a Subway telling this
• 4:33:07
  testimony while thousands of people are standing around just
• 4:33:11
  telling the entire story of his life.
• 4:33:14
  It's really impactful. Sometimes I think.
• 4:33:20
  Like, I don't know. I think funny him and IP but
• 4:33:26
  like he had a child that died. He had like two children that
• 4:33:31
  were disabled. He had a child who died and he
• 4:33:35
  ran of course he gets into a lot of Muslims the cotton you know
• 4:33:38
  because he's like you know constantly going on about Islam
• 4:33:42
  but the doll was out and everything and so he got a lot
• 4:33:47
  of messages from them but he got a lot of messages from people.
• 4:33:49
  He said right here too that were just really gross about his
• 4:33:54
  child died. She's like it was so it was so
• 4:33:59
  wild. He used to use Facebook for a
• 4:34:02
  while back and I used to follow him and I would join in on the
• 4:34:07
  comments on the post and I seen that whenever he announced that
• 4:34:11
  his child may not make it, there's a lot of non-believers
• 4:34:14
  and set some horrific things, you know.
• 4:34:17
  I I blame a lot of atheists out there for why it is.
• 4:34:21
  A lot of people end up going towards religion because they
• 4:34:24
  see that morality, they see the that behavior, don't get me
• 4:34:28
  wrong, there's some real Pricks and Christianity but it seems
• 4:34:32
  like a lot of atheists. They Thrive towards Niles and
• 4:34:36
  Evil. You know, but yeah there's
• 4:34:40
  religious people out there shit but not in the majority.
• 4:34:44
  Like that. Well, I mean like I don't think
• 4:34:51
  we hate that, right? Most of them are humanists, you
• 4:34:55
  know? I mean so they had empathy.
• 4:34:58
  For somebody who's a child, no matter who he is.
• 4:35:02
  Yeah, but I'm sure I'm sure there's plenty of ideas that I
• 4:35:06
  have that. I do not deal with but and I
• 4:35:09
  think that it was like, it was horrific, you know, I thought, I
• 4:35:13
  can't imagine. um, going through, you know, having to
• 4:35:20
  read some that stuff that He read off it know that I was just
• 4:35:27
  terrible. You know, it's really odd, too.
• 4:35:31
  David would didn't always go after the Muslims.
• 4:35:34
  He mostly just talked about his own life experiences and all
• 4:35:39
  this and how he used to be a former atheist.
• 4:35:42
  And he wasn't going after Islam at the time.
• 4:35:45
  So there wasn't really any, there wasn't really any real
• 4:35:49
  motivation. Why is should have attacked him
• 4:35:52
  like they did but they sure did. It was rough. and, You know, he
• 4:36:00
  caught, he's got crude sometimes too like, you know, in a
• 4:36:04
  humorous way like, you know, but like, but let me give you an
• 4:36:08
  example. Something Ron, do you remember a
• 4:36:11
  young girl back then, that was making, she was deaf and she
• 4:36:16
  told signs up on video, I know, I don't remember there was a
• 4:36:22
  young girl a while back. This was I'm never going to
• 4:36:26
  forget this because this is one of the moments and my history
• 4:36:29
  where I realized there was something wrong with the
• 4:36:34
  community. There was a girl who's Chris
• 4:36:37
  Christian. And she couldn't couldn't talk
• 4:36:41
  when she tried to. It would come out mumbling.
• 4:36:43
  So what she would do is she'd make videos because she was
• 4:36:46
  lonely and just wanted to connect with people, and she'd
• 4:36:50
  put these little paper cards up where she would say, I love you.
• 4:36:53
  Jesus loves you all this. So the atheist Community goes
• 4:36:57
  over there and tells her that she's a whore, a piece of shit
• 4:37:01
  that she had to die. Well, she ended up committing
• 4:37:06
  suicide. Know.
• 4:37:10
  Too many stories like that out there at.
• 4:37:13
  I think a lot of people realize, Well, I don't hang out with none
• 4:37:20
  of those ideas. I know, I know.
• 4:37:25
  I need a moment before I start talking again, all right.
• 4:37:29
  Yes, to your face. We don't want you choking like
• 4:37:32
  strangling or something. Since the great design of like
• 4:37:39
  breeding and our food going down the same hole.
• 4:37:58
  The other are a lot of goodies out there.
• 4:38:00
  I mean, I think that when I, you know, was was still, you know,
• 4:38:05
  can still consider myself. What I don't think I was bad
• 4:38:09
  person. I mean, obviously their shit
• 4:38:11
  that I did back then that I wish I would know but that that would
• 4:38:14
  have occurred. Involved.
• 4:38:18
  No matter what I believe, you know.
• 4:38:20
  Everybody grows people. Yeah, I try to be empathetic and
• 4:38:31
  I mean, I may not like I made you things that would be
• 4:38:36
  considered sin. To some people but I don't.
• 4:38:42
  You know I mean I don't hold myself to that standard of sin
• 4:38:46
  because I don't I feel like that there's a lot of things that you
• 4:38:49
  can do that are awful that are not.
• 4:38:51
  They actually seeing yeah. And I try to treat people.
• 4:39:06
  Um, like they treat me. and, No matter what they believe.
• 4:39:13
  Yeah, I try. I try to follow the Golden Rule
• 4:39:17
  too. You know, treat others.
• 4:39:19
  The way I'd want to be treated. Our treat.
• 4:39:23
  I like try. I'll try treat people the way
• 4:39:25
  they want to be treated. Not necessarily me.
• 4:39:27
  That's good. Yeah, that's a good one, too.
• 4:39:30
  Yeah. That's like a different version
• 4:39:33
  of it. I can't remember which one what?
• 4:39:36
  Like, religion. There's different religions.
• 4:39:39
  Have pretty much the same. They all have pretty much the
• 4:39:41
  golden rule in some manner. Yeah, yeah and just boils down
• 4:39:47
  to have empathy and try to try to think.
• 4:39:50
  Try to put yourself in other people's shoes.
• 4:39:52
  Before you do anything to him, I guess.
• 4:39:56
  Yeah, treat people respect. yeah, and then they now Make
• 4:40:06
  sure that they don't, they don't really necessarily, you know.
• 4:40:11
  Respond to that in a positive way.
• 4:40:14
  Then I would rather just not have nothing to do with them
• 4:40:19
  then to try to be cruel to him. Yeah, a few guys, I feel a
• 4:40:25
  little bad because I put out that intense story about former
• 4:40:29
  atheism and all that kind of stuff you guys mind, if I tell
• 4:40:33
  you mean ass Kristen story to keep it fair and balanced.
• 4:40:39
  Sure. Are you okay though?
• 4:40:41
  Yeah I got a little choked up on that.
• 4:40:43
  That's that's an incident that remember I told her by that
• 4:40:47
  impactful one that one that one gets me at haunts me Yeah.
• 4:40:53
  So This, this isn't his horrible but it was, it was annoying for
• 4:41:00
  me, at least personally, I was hanging out with the some
• 4:41:03
  Christians, just yesterday, just happened.
• 4:41:07
  And I was asking, I said, have you got a chance to hear any of
• 4:41:11
  my music and all that? I don't know if you guys knew,
• 4:41:12
  but I released an album. And they, they all said, oh, I'd
• 4:41:17
  love to hear it Brad. So it plays and everybody's
• 4:41:20
  like, wow, this is really good, you know, this is nice.
• 4:41:23
  How do I go about getting album all this kind of stuff but one
• 4:41:26
  of them is sitting in the damn chat on the outside going man.
• 4:41:31
  This is this is demonic. It's satanic all this shit and
• 4:41:35
  the guys in the room at the same time and he says yeah why why is
• 4:41:39
  it that the song has an angel crying for like, explain it to
• 4:41:44
  him? I say well the Angels mourning,
• 4:41:46
  the Innocence getting killed and destroyed and humanity and all
• 4:41:50
  that it's sad. It's very right and he goes well
• 4:41:55
  Angels, don't cry. They don't you know this sounds
• 4:41:58
  like some atheistic shit. You know?
• 4:42:00
  So I'm like wow dude. It's like four in the morning.
• 4:42:03
  I had my first cup of coffee and you gonna ride me already?
• 4:42:06
  I said damn give a man a chance before.
• 4:42:08
  You just start busting them into his ass like that or kicking him
• 4:42:11
  in the balls. But yeah, most of them were nice
• 4:42:15
  but just out of nowhere. I would have never imagined
• 4:42:18
  someone would actually compare my music or make a make it some
• 4:42:22
  kind of satanic evil thing. It was like the softest sweetest
• 4:42:26
  song you could ever hear but somehow he made it in the shit.
• 4:42:31
  Yeah, your music is pretty good. It sounds like those were the
• 4:42:35
  types of Christians are really Believers.
• 4:42:37
  In any religion, I avoid to have the very Very strict just kind
• 4:42:44
  of damn, you know, he just got his name, start with a B.
• 4:42:51
  Uh, I could put it out there. I don't care.
• 4:42:53
  He makes his image look like Jeff Bridges.
• 4:42:57
  And has these Shades to say dude on them, like I guess he likes
• 4:43:01
  The Big Lebowski or some shit. But it was one the other ones
• 4:43:06
  just kind of sat there quietly because they knew something
• 4:43:08
  negative was going on and but they didn't say anything.
• 4:43:11
  They just kind of sat back and I'm like, people got, go ahead.
• 4:43:16
  I don't know how you described. Then his name start with a b.
• 4:43:20
  A b. I'm, I don't know.
• 4:43:22
  He might have a couple different ideas, you know how people are
• 4:43:25
  on YouTube, but no, it's I, I told the other Christians room,
• 4:43:29
  I said, look, you're all welcome to come to my room and all that.
• 4:43:32
  But music is like a really important thing in my life and
• 4:43:35
  you know, if he would have got me in the evening, I would have
• 4:43:39
  been like I, you know, go fuck yourself and, you know, put him
• 4:43:42
  out but you know, I don't know. I was just tired.
• 4:43:46
  I was vulnerable at the moment and it was like, man, you just
• 4:43:49
  shit all over my fucking music. This is how I, you know, one of
• 4:43:53
  the ways I paid bills and take care of my family and all that
• 4:43:56
  and you're going to call it the fucking doubles, work it.
• 4:44:00
  I I did. I just felt for a moment that a
• 4:44:03
  tables Ladd Match was appropriate, I don't know why.
• 4:44:06
  And just I'm really interested in how he knows what satanic
• 4:44:15
  music sounds like. Yeah.
• 4:44:17
  Yeah. All because the angel had tears
• 4:44:22
  in the picture, a beautiful angel, at that, by the way, I
• 4:44:26
  put the picture up on my YouTube channel, if anybody wants to see
• 4:44:29
  what it looks like, there is nothing evil about that at all.
• 4:44:33
  Yeah, I can't stand people that are that stuff.
• 4:44:35
  Oh, Damn. I don't know.
• 4:44:41
  Well, there you go. I needed the balance things out.
• 4:44:44
  I told an awful atheist story. Now, I told you about a bad
• 4:44:48
  Christmas story. I got to keep it even, you know
• 4:44:50
  what I mean? Keep scoreboard, going.
• 4:44:56
  Well, you can't you can't say I'm not fair right Robin.
• 4:45:01
  I I don't have to climb anything.
• 4:45:03
  Any other person does, that's one thing.
• 4:45:05
  I feel like Well boy. You know what I mean?
• 4:45:14
  I've been having so many nice. Oh God!
• 4:45:17
  Robin! Any ideas that doesn't match it.
• 4:45:20
  I don't have to clean them, you know.
• 4:45:23
  I mean I don't believe you, you know, I've got all these Great
• 4:45:28
  Clips that I like to play whenever people are passionate
• 4:45:31
  are going crazy and all that. But since I've been doing live
• 4:45:35
  shows, everybody's been really respectful and decent and all
• 4:45:38
  that and I'm like, oh damn, I got all these Great Clips and I
• 4:45:42
  can't use any of them because nobody's mean, you guys mind, if
• 4:45:45
  I show you a couple little short things real quick, you might
• 4:45:47
  make you laugh. So this is what I would use if I
• 4:45:51
  had like a bunch of mean people yelling at each other in the
• 4:45:54
  room. And that awesome.
• 4:46:05
  That is cool. So, let's say, let's say we get
• 4:46:09
  some buddies, like being really, really dumb and everything.
• 4:46:12
  I mean, to the point Robin, where you just, you're like, to
• 4:46:15
  hell with this person. There.
• 4:46:16
  Absolutely stupid. I would have played this retard
• 4:46:21
  alert. But I can't do it because
• 4:46:25
  nobody's been like that. So Mr. Garrison, He made
• 4:46:31
  terrible run. I love streaming.
• 4:46:33
  You know, that's pretty good. Hmm.
• 4:46:36
  Geez. He even treats the trolls with
• 4:46:41
  humor. Oh, geez.
• 4:46:47
  If each day on here, long enough, you'll have somebody
• 4:46:51
  that know. Whip it down there.
• 4:46:54
  Sure. So far, last couple days,
• 4:46:58
  everybody's been Pleasant and nice and having great discussion
• 4:47:01
  and I'm looking over at my Clips but damn man, all that effort to
• 4:47:06
  put that good stuff up there. Nobody's nobody wants to reward
• 4:47:10
  or trophy. go get your room with like, A couple Catholic and
• 4:47:23
  maybe a calvinist in there. Oh it'll be hell on Earth,
• 4:47:31
  wouldn't it? You know what I have to do for
• 4:47:33
  them, right? Out the fuck outta here, bitch.
• 4:47:43
  Oh that's rough. Like, yeah.
• 4:47:51
  That's like there used to be people who died too long into,
• 4:47:58
  they would have stuff like that, too.
• 4:48:00
  They'd have Clips wherever somebody like donated or
• 4:48:03
  something. He.
• 4:48:06
  Yeah. But the people nowadays don't
• 4:48:09
  have any kind of imagination run, like I was watching this
• 4:48:13
  podcast for these people donated like money to Super Chat and a
• 4:48:18
  clip, came up of a rabbit banging another rabbit in the
• 4:48:20
  ass. And I'm like, oh that's not a
• 4:48:22
  badge. Look, come on.
• 4:48:29
  Banging a rabbit. Who hasn't seen that already 100
• 4:48:32
  times C. Robin yoko's sound like it was
• 4:48:39
  said that Yeah, I was like yeah, crazy.
• 4:48:45
  Yeah. Bradford Oh boy.
• 4:48:50
  Oh yeah Mr. Martin that toilet like flushing like when she
• 4:48:57
  threw somebody out of the room you know she could hit that
• 4:48:59
  toilet flushing that sound. Yeah.
• 4:49:02
  And then the gun. Yeah she like that.
• 4:49:06
  Is he returned yet or is she still on the vacation?
• 4:49:12
  tell me, she get a show that or not, because I saw her in
• 4:49:17
  Somebody else's room, you know? Like I think it was might have
• 4:49:22
  been on Proverbs or something. And she said that she had done a
• 4:49:27
  show that day but I didn't come up in my face like a lot of
• 4:49:32
  times, like a lot of people I'm subscribed to don't show up, you
• 4:49:36
  know, on my feet when they go live I don't know like I don't
• 4:49:39
  get no notifications. She I don't know, she's ever
• 4:49:43
  told you this but she has said this publicly quite a few times
• 4:49:47
  and a show. So firstly, when people are
• 4:49:49
  ramping her hate you towards me, but she said, if it wasn't for
• 4:49:52
  Brad, I wouldn't even be able to do this.
• 4:49:53
  You, you know, that I was the one that got her to actually
• 4:49:57
  start putting her face up making videos, right doing the shows.
• 4:50:01
  Yeah, she's never said, nothing really bad about you to me.
• 4:50:04
  I mean, she's cool. Unfortunately, some of the turds
• 4:50:08
  that she brings in the room, they want to take up her entire
• 4:50:11
  time, and I feel sorry for her even though I'm hearing, like
• 4:50:15
  shit coming at me and all that. I know that she doesn't enjoy
• 4:50:18
  that. I know she doesn't like it, but
• 4:50:20
  she's trying to do what ttor does where she lets everybody
• 4:50:23
  talk and share their opinions and all that.
• 4:50:26
  I know eventually she gets bored of it and flushes him down the
• 4:50:29
  commode, but it's as I feel bad for her because she wants to
• 4:50:33
  talk about her issues. I know she's had some losses in
• 4:50:36
  her life and instead they turned it into a, you know, basically a
• 4:50:40
  shippro Marner. And that's sad.
• 4:50:42
  That makes me feel bad for yeah, well, I mean it's gonna like a
• 4:50:48
  lot of times there's a lot of Christians in there and ideas
• 4:50:51
  too and like some of the Christians that she has in their
• 4:50:57
  free, like, you know, like she likes Jill. and, You know I
• 4:51:04
  don't know I I'm sure you know Jill is Jill.
• 4:51:07
  Um yeah that dude he don't like me at all.
• 4:51:13
  He's like he he's like the only person I know like him and You
• 4:51:24
  know, me and so like he brings out the best in everybody. but,
• 4:51:30
  Well, I think he's got some kind of weird issue with women
• 4:51:33
  because I he used to come onto my podcast a while back.
• 4:51:37
  And what happened was is that some females came in female
• 4:51:42
  atheists and a couple religious ladies and they hammered the
• 4:51:45
  piss out of him on the theological level.
• 4:51:47
  I ain't afraid to say that he just looked really, really
• 4:51:51
  terrible. But he did say Brad, I don't
• 4:51:53
  want you involved, you know, I know you're running the show but
• 4:51:56
  what let me deal with them and all that.
• 4:51:58
  I was like, oh okay, have fun. So they they kicked out of them.
• 4:52:03
  They embarrassed him. And and now he's got it out for
• 4:52:06
  me and he thinks that the he doesn't want to go into the room
• 4:52:10
  with women now. He's very arrogant.
• 4:52:20
  He told me one time that Democrats couldn't you know he's
• 4:52:22
  a calvinist. He told me Democrats couldn't be
• 4:52:25
  in this election. well, there's no where in the there's no,
• 4:52:33
  where in the Bible, where so Liberals are Democrats, can't
• 4:52:36
  get in there and I know that Republicans either, you know, it
• 4:52:46
  So I just thought that was pretty funny.
• 4:52:48
  It's just, yeah, because he used to come on p-town.
• 4:52:52
  Like I used to hang out in Pete, Town's chat, like some right.
• 4:52:58
  Well, let me close out of this other page but yeah, I was
• 4:53:02
  telling you the truth. That's 960 bucks if you want to
• 4:53:06
  go to Greece, Okay. All right.
• 4:53:09
  I'll keep that in mind. Yeah, I'm only 900 away.
• 4:53:13
  Yes, that's right. It's pretty rough.
• 4:53:19
  Like, I've been single, you know, I mean, so I have my house
• 4:53:27
  is paid for. I don't have a house payment,
• 4:53:29
  but no, I have all the bills. Yeah, I have a daughter in
• 4:53:35
  college. Why are you?
• 4:53:41
  Why are you single for? I mean, I've seen what you look
• 4:53:44
  like and you got a good personality if you lived in
• 4:53:47
  Missouri. I'm sure it'd be older men.
• 4:53:50
  He'd be more than happy to beat your relationship or is that a
• 4:53:54
  personal choice in your own and I was gonna say it might be my,
• 4:53:59
  you know, being single might be my choice.
• 4:54:02
  I near me. but, Yeah. So it's by it.
• 4:54:10
  Yeah, well the person that I wanted to be with left and then
• 4:54:18
  gone for like five years now. So, Hey, I think I remember you.
• 4:54:24
  Tell me a little bit about that. I'm sorry to nap to you.
• 4:54:28
  But you know this as well as I there's more fish in the sea,
• 4:54:31
  right? Well I know but I'm not I'm not
• 4:54:35
  fishing. I'm sorry, I first off my 19
• 4:54:40
  year old daughter. She would probably she didn't
• 4:54:43
  like it if I brought some other person around anyway.
• 4:54:45
  But because she like very dominating as, you know, oh, are
• 4:54:53
  you sure and like the place or something that you're in?
• 4:54:57
  Was she home with me right now, for call from college?
• 4:55:00
  She's a freshman. She was she's a sophomore in
• 4:55:04
  college, this coming up here. And she'd get armed for trying
• 4:55:12
  to find somebody. Oh, she gets onto me for
• 4:55:16
  bringing him home. She you in the world around but
• 4:55:20
  I have like, I have cats. I have a lot cats.
• 4:55:22
  I'm the crazy cat lady now so I'm no.
• 4:55:26
  I have a snake a bearded dragon and a gecko.
• 4:55:33
  We have sort of Zoom around there.
• 4:55:36
  We live out in the woods so I end up getting a lot of Strays.
• 4:55:40
  We got everything from cats, the raccoons and possums the moles,
• 4:55:45
  and it's all kinds of crazy shit.
• 4:55:48
  They all like to sleep out in the yard and chill out, of
• 4:55:52
  course, the wife wants to feed them all.
• 4:55:54
  So we got more and more and more.
• 4:55:57
  We I don't know if you heard about this, but we recently You
• 4:56:02
  had some idiot who apparently didn't like the idea that we had
• 4:56:07
  all the animals and tried to call the police armas.
• 4:56:11
  Please come up. And really yeah, please come up
• 4:56:14
  and everything and I'm like, hey, that's my damn property.
• 4:56:16
  I can have I'll fucking have a shark in my yard and a big
• 4:56:21
  aquarium. If you want to, what the hell is
• 4:56:22
  your problem? And the cop says, well, the cats
• 4:56:25
  apparently, they go down another people's neighborhoods and sleep
• 4:56:29
  on cards and shit. And I said, I don't have no idea
• 4:56:32
  what the fuck cats doing once I go back in my house, what the
• 4:56:36
  hell am I supposed to do about that?
• 4:56:37
  They go? Well, they're your cats.
• 4:56:39
  It's another not my cats. They're fucking forest animals.
• 4:56:42
  That think I'm fucking Snow White and come to my house and
• 4:56:45
  sleep, you know, some magic whistle calling them, they just
• 4:56:53
  show up. So what else am I supposed to
• 4:56:55
  do? Not go outside their house cats.
• 4:57:01
  My dog goes outside but I have a skin backyards so we would we
• 4:57:07
  love? Oh, we let a cat in that came to
• 4:57:12
  us a long time ago, called fuzzy butt.
• 4:57:14
  That's what I don't know why the wife and daughter named it at
• 4:57:18
  that but that's its name fuzzy but it's a really hairy ass cat
• 4:57:22
  but it's it's cute looking. It's not one of them ugly ass
• 4:57:26
  flat face things that you probably Seen On TV.
• 4:57:28
  It's actually a pretty cat. Um but the other ones we can
• 4:57:33
  because they want to piss all over the place they want to mark
• 4:57:35
  their territory or something. So we can't let the other ones
• 4:57:38
  in Know, you don't need Tom's in there and I I do have a
• 4:57:46
  groundhog that lives under my like Tool Shed like I have like
• 4:57:50
  the house. I bought a different house that
• 4:57:52
  where I live last time, I talked to you, so I bought a different
• 4:57:57
  house, it's over house that had like hardwood floors, all the
• 4:58:00
  way through it and stuff. I was living but he has like a
• 4:58:04
  little efficiency apartment like a little small house.
• 4:58:06
  Next door. That is like got one room
• 4:58:10
  efficiency apartment in it. Yeah the bathroom and everything
• 4:58:13
  and my best friend is going to move in here and we get it like
• 4:58:17
  I get the water fixed cuz it busted like over the winter so
• 4:58:21
  we're going to put pics mine and through it so it won't freezing
• 4:58:24
  like it won't bust but then it there's a little shed too like a
• 4:58:28
  little building out building next door to that and that's
• 4:58:31
  where I got like my tools and my lawn mowers and crap again and I
• 4:58:36
  have a groundhog lives under it. Mmm, Oh, we we like the animals
• 4:58:45
  and all that. Always had a always, dug them.
• 4:58:49
  Oh boy. I'm just picturing you Snow
• 4:58:54
  White. But it's just shocks me because
• 4:58:59
  it's like it's like going and bugging a homeless person
• 4:59:03
  saying, hey, you know, what are you doing?
• 4:59:05
  On the sidewalk wiring got no place to go.
• 4:59:08
  Well you can't be here kind of bullshits like where the hell
• 4:59:12
  he's fuck cats supposed to go, I'm not gonna take them out and
• 4:59:15
  shoot him instead of make socks out of them.
• 4:59:17
  They're just mine in their own business.
• 4:59:19
  They just want to eat and have a place to rest.
• 4:59:22
  Why? Why hatred over it?
• 4:59:26
  See ya in my hometown that I live in.
• 4:59:30
  They finally killed or raise the money to open a show like a cat
• 4:59:37
  like Clinic where you can take Strays and get them fixed.
• 4:59:41
  Yeah. And and so like went on a big
• 4:59:44
  push of doing that and so like like rounded up over 100 strike
• 4:59:49
  cats in our County. and fix them and release them back out into
• 4:59:54
  the know. So yeah, we we actually have
• 4:59:59
  just a less than a mile down the road.
• 5:00:02
  We got a cat sanctuary where you can take animals but the problem
• 5:00:07
  is, is that they've got like 50 Cent cats already and they're
• 5:00:11
  not, they're like, can you just take care of them?
• 5:00:13
  So it's like the sink to wear a permits us and, and they're fine
• 5:00:18
  with it. They think it's great that
• 5:00:19
  somebody's taking care of them. But, you know, the cop was just
• 5:00:22
  being a real prick and everything.
• 5:00:24
  Oh, your neighbor. And I said, my neighbor is like
• 5:00:26
  all the way down the damn road, them can't think doing nothing
• 5:00:30
  to him, he's just a pricking. Something bitch about now,
• 5:00:35
  cancer cancer, naturally, lazy ass creatures.
• 5:00:39
  He just lay around and chill and eat Natalie, do you know?
• 5:00:43
  But they fixed him like this thing here fixes him.
• 5:00:47
  So they won't, you know, like they don't keep breeding good
• 5:00:54
  but you know they're like one of the most proficient killers on
• 5:01:01
  the planet, like, They're killed right here for like other
• 5:01:07
  animals, like birds and squirrels and stuff like that.
• 5:01:11
  I mean, they're they're deadly. That's our Well, it's fine with
• 5:01:17
  me because the wife, she's also in the gardening and all that
• 5:01:21
  and we were having a rabbit issue for a while there where
• 5:01:23
  they want to come fuck things up and we had birds that would come
• 5:01:27
  down and tried to eat some of the stuff.
• 5:01:29
  I don't give a shit, there's hundreds of miles of land.
• 5:01:33
  The bird can go to if it lands in the yard, seemed 20 cats
• 5:01:37
  laying there. Then that thing, as far as I'm
• 5:01:39
  concerned, it was done with life.
• 5:01:41
  You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I had my three like
• 5:01:47
  they caught. They somehow I got a mouth like
• 5:01:50
  out and the one of the miles out into the circle and they were
• 5:01:55
  like standing in a circle in that mouth Landing right next
• 5:01:58
  Circle and I was watching and it looked like that Mouse scream.
• 5:02:04
  It makes you the way from now. It ran like somewhere and while
• 5:02:08
  they were looking at their you came out, I saw it.
• 5:02:12
  Go in the bathroom. They saw it.
• 5:02:13
  They ran in there and there's a place where it could get down
• 5:02:16
  stairs there. And they can't and they looked
• 5:02:20
  in the bathtub for it, like all the rest of the night, they
• 5:02:23
  would go get the bathtub and look for the right, the miles,
• 5:02:25
  it was really funny. Yeah, I can't feel like that
• 5:02:30
  Mouse freaked out though. It looked like it, screamed when
• 5:02:33
  it landed because it was like standing right in the middle of
• 5:02:35
  the circle. All three of them.
• 5:02:37
  Looking at it. Yeah, I got a couple cats that
• 5:02:40
  like, to play with field, mice and shit like that.
• 5:02:42
  They'll play with it for a while.
• 5:02:44
  Let it run around. Do its thing fuzzy buddy.
• 5:02:47
  Like that our house kit is not fucked around with them.
• 5:02:50
  They'll it'll just swallow it hold it.
• 5:02:53
  Don't give a shit. It ain't looking to play or run
• 5:02:56
  after it or anything. I think it's because she's
• 5:02:58
  older. Now, she's older cats.
• 5:03:01
  So she looking the fuck around and juggle amounts or anything?
• 5:03:04
  She just like, I'm hungry. You're done.
• 5:03:07
  Go ahead man, don't eat the mice.
• 5:03:10
  They just play with them. They usually end up killing
• 5:03:13
  them, but that they like them around until they bring him to
• 5:03:17
  me. And I thought, Yeah, the answer
• 5:03:24
  that just a few weeks ago, where walked out on my deck and shit
• 5:03:28
  and I wasn't wearing my shoes. I just wanted to go out and
• 5:03:32
  breathe in the morning there and stepped right into one of their
• 5:03:35
  fucking trophies. They left me.
• 5:03:37
  And I looked at him and I said, you know, Daddy don't like that.
• 5:03:40
  Shut what are you doing? Take that up in the woods
• 5:03:42
  somewhere. What's up with that?
• 5:03:44
  Yeah that's what they do. My wife says cuz they love me.
• 5:03:48
  They want to bring me presents and shut so what?
• 5:03:50
  They need to figure out something else.
• 5:03:52
  Bring me some money. You know, they did they do that.
• 5:03:56
  They always do that. Like that.
• 5:03:58
  Like Mom used to bring me mol and like the ones that I used to
• 5:04:04
  have a cat that lived outside all the time and it would bring
• 5:04:06
  me moles Birds squirrels, you know, just like right there in
• 5:04:11
  the front door so that she opened the door.
• 5:04:13
  There was a dead animal land right there.
• 5:04:15
  But you know, they they're proud of it and they want you to know,
• 5:04:19
  look what we've been doing. Yeah.
• 5:04:23
  It's true. Which the moles?
• 5:04:26
  I never did mine too bad. Anyway, I hate Moses, actually
• 5:04:30
  in the yard. Yes Moe's get.
• 5:04:34
  What's coming to him? Yes.
• 5:04:39
  So Robin if you are not an opportunity listening to my
• 5:04:42
  devil's music. Yeah.
• 5:04:56
  Go ahead. One of your songs.
• 5:05:00
  Like, I think you played. Did you play a song like
• 5:05:03
  something? Yeah, I played, I heard in the
• 5:05:08
  very intros of my videos. My shows I play one of my tracks
• 5:05:11
  and at the end of this one, I'm probably going to attract.
• 5:05:15
  But yeah, the second throw that you in the show whenever it's
• 5:05:20
  processed and you'll hear it. Yeah.
• 5:05:26
  Boy. Wouldn't mind hearing what you
• 5:05:28
  think of it. I doubt that you'll blame it on
• 5:05:31
  Satan or anything. No, I doubt I will too.
• 5:05:40
  I think that that person must just really, I don't know it.
• 5:05:45
  either or they're jealous because you can play music or
• 5:05:52
  they have a very weird. View of the world.
• 5:05:57
  Well, I I have ran into some Christians.
• 5:06:00
  He seemed jealous of me and envious, and that's not
• 5:06:03
  something that Christians are supposed to be.
• 5:06:06
  But a lot of religious folks come to me from a lot of
• 5:06:09
  different phase asking me how to run different programs, how to
• 5:06:13
  do this, or need some help with graphic design, or some kind of
• 5:06:17
  just something for them and I get around on the internet, you
• 5:06:23
  know? So And some people get pissed
• 5:06:25
  off about that. They're like, well how come you
• 5:06:27
  didn't ask me? You know, I could do stuff.
• 5:06:30
  Yeah. But now I like Brett King.
• 5:06:32
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 5:06:37
  And some and some of them are like tribal about their beliefs,
• 5:06:41
  like, no, like if you don't believe exactly what they
• 5:06:47
  believe, They kind of get tribal about.
• 5:06:52
  I have found that and it's dumb too, especially on the internet
• 5:06:57
  because this is global. We're talking to the entire
• 5:07:01
  world, we can't expect people to just jump into our conversation
• 5:07:05
  and just automatically they haven't been raised the same
• 5:07:09
  way. They haven't experienced the
• 5:07:11
  same thing as us. Some of the have seen some
• 5:07:13
  Wicked shit so we can't just expect people to just
• 5:07:17
  automatically fall in line. I don't get that with some
• 5:07:21
  people where they just think everybody's like the board.
• 5:07:24
  You know what the board is. Yeah.
• 5:07:28
  Oh, you're starting. Oh, I love Star Trek.
• 5:07:38
  Yes. Oh good the Next Generation.
• 5:07:41
  Well, there you go, that's when the board was first introduced.
• 5:07:46
  Yeah, that's based one. I mean I like that one with
• 5:07:50
  Captain Kirk but I like the Next Generation probably that was
• 5:07:54
  gonna sit and watch one. Like I would like it's a one, I
• 5:07:58
  would watch that. Well, you know, William
• 5:08:03
  Shatner's a little rough. You know who he is, right?
• 5:08:07
  Yes, yes. I mean I look at Kirk.
• 5:08:10
  Don't get me wrong. You have it.
• 5:08:11
  I got an opportunity while back to talk to him for a moment or
• 5:08:16
  Lively and he was doing, he was trying to promote live shows and
• 5:08:20
  streaming when it first came out.
• 5:08:22
  And I went into the room where he was at and I go, hey,
• 5:08:26
  William, it's such a pleasure to see you and visit you and all
• 5:08:31
  that. You know, you you such a great
• 5:08:33
  guy and all that. I unfortunately had the whole,
• 5:08:36
  you know, had a spasm being in front of such greatness, you
• 5:08:40
  know. Like yeah.
• 5:08:41
  So he was he so I do. I do get kind of fumbly when I'm
• 5:08:48
  around somebody like that and he goes, who are you again?
• 5:08:52
  And I go? Well, I'm my name's Brett Keane
• 5:08:55
  and all that. And I didn't get offended by
• 5:08:58
  him, putting it out there like that, but he was like, so I'm
• 5:09:01
  trying to do a live stream here. I'm trying to get this together
• 5:09:04
  to promote this. What is it that you want to?
• 5:09:07
  Exactly. And I said, I just wanted to say
• 5:09:09
  hello to you and and The C greatness and its fullness and
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  stuff. And he goes well, now that you
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  have, you can go, I was like, damn, that's that's rough.
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  But that's why did me he was? He was harsh.
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  He was extremely nice to all the ladies and the women and all
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  that, but he just had no interest.
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  What the hell I had to say. But I still got the, he acts, he
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  actually responded to me and spoke to me.
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  Roseanne, Barr actually had interaction with her a while
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  back that I ever tell you about that.
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  No, but I'm so I'm disappointed in Captain Kirk.
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  I mean, you know, the grief Well, the good news is he runs
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  on xsocial media and from time to time I'll respond.
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  He don't know shit about me or even though I am still even
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  though we talked but he he puts out all kinds of jokes.
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  He's kind of a, he's stiff like that, but he does have dry
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  humor. You know, yeah.
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  Like I like I was like when you went to space, I really like the
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  story about going to space. Yeah.
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  How he when he got up there he cried and wanted to come home.
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  He was like well I I think the deal is I watched the
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  documentary of him later on after that incident I I didn't
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  think anything bad of him but I did watch a documentary where he
• 5:10:37
  was constantly being harassed over and over and over about
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  being Captain Kirk. And he thought like, According
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  to the documentary he said, because I played this role so
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  well, they didn't want to put me in the other type of TV, shows
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  or movies. And even if I did, even the
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  other actors, would call me Captain Kirk, and it's like,
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  they wouldn't leave me alone about Star Trek.
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  So here I am, I did kind of busted on him and do that shit
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  cuz I didn't know any better. I didn't realize he that
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  aggravated him so much. So I got what was coming to me.
• 5:11:11
  It is what it is. Roseanne here though.
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  He should like I mean he he created that character like
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  characters loved by so many people.
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  So yeah, for him though, according to his documentary to
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  him, he was only playing the character because he wanted to
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  pay his bills. He wasn't always wealthy and he
• 5:11:35
  got into the park because it was the only role that kept on doing
• 5:11:38
  it. He fell like it hurt his chances
• 5:11:41
  of being an actor and anything important said it even killed.
• 5:11:45
  His his theater presence because people would start cheering him
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  and they'd say Captain Kirk Captain Kirk.
• 5:11:51
  I get it, I get it, he wanted more.
• 5:11:54
  Not just that So what about Roseanne?
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  Oh Roseanne Barr. I sent her some messages a while
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  back. Ask her she'd.
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  Come on my show and everything like that.
• 5:12:07
  Unfortunately, she was in an argument with some people at the
• 5:12:11
  time. She goes, why the hell what I
• 5:12:13
  come on your show for you know, you know who I am and I said,
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  yeah, I know who you are. That's the reason why I'm invite
• 5:12:19
  me to my damn show. And she goes.
• 5:12:21
  And what do you know about me? And I said well, you're one of
• 5:12:24
  the most badass women on the planet.
• 5:12:26
  You gotta fucking successful TV show and they betrayed you and
• 5:12:30
  kicked you off of it. But besides that I think you're
• 5:12:33
  fuking. Fantastic going tell myself and
• 5:12:36
  she goes oh one kiss my ass and all that I said maybe if I
• 5:12:39
  wasn't married Rosie but no thank you for the proposal.
• 5:12:43
  So that was she's like I thought I thought the right hated her
• 5:12:51
  and then and all that and like you like swallow the red pill
• 5:12:56
  and now everybody likes her. Mm-hmm.
• 5:12:58
  Like her long before I even thought of fucking politics.
• 5:13:03
  I was watching her. I was a young person and all
• 5:13:06
  that. I watched the Rosie show
• 5:13:08
  Roseanne and all that. So yeah, like they're always
• 5:13:12
  they don't like that for me Robin.
• 5:13:14
  I'm sure you probably run some dumb shits on both sides but
• 5:13:17
  there's a there's plenty of times where Obama or even Clint
• 5:13:23
  and even with all the crimes and shit like that.
• 5:13:25
  There were some things, I think that they both said that were
• 5:13:27
  brilliant and that one could actually live by problem with
• 5:13:32
  politicians as though, you might agree with them.
• 5:13:34
  You might even support their plans.
• 5:13:36
  No matter what they call himself.
• 5:13:39
  They turn around and fuck it up or they break the promises.
• 5:13:42
  That's what pisses. Me off.
• 5:13:45
  Yeah. You don't need to worship him.
• 5:13:46
  Yeah, yeah. Their humans.
• 5:13:50
  Yeah, so Robin. It's it's not like that for me.
• 5:13:53
  I don't even think like that. Whenever I'm talking to people
• 5:13:56
  I'm not gonna say so you're a liberal.
• 5:13:59
  Oh, then I can't be fucking friends with, you know, that's
• 5:14:02
  that's bulshit and I know that most of that shit we see on TV
• 5:14:06
  theatrics anyway. They're probably all eating
• 5:14:09
  steak together. I'm gonna fucking malt and then
• 5:14:12
  on TV, they act like they're the worst enemies they ever had.
• 5:14:15
  So I know how they play the game.
• 5:14:18
  All right. Yeah, I'm checking out.
• 5:14:27
  Here, checking out. Chicken out.
• 5:14:30
  Oh, okay. I'm at the.
• 5:14:35
  I'm still not getting me some food.
• 5:14:37
  Oh, I'm fixing that. I'm just fair enough.
• 5:14:48
  Yeah, I get fuel. I feel every time I got real
• 5:14:51
  small tanks on. My truck is somebody used to is
• 5:14:54
  a reason, is this most still here with us?
• 5:14:57
  I don't know. I can't see how many people are
• 5:15:00
  viewing or watching all. So I can see is if people
• 5:15:03
  actually leave comments and it looked like it stopped at about
• 5:15:06
  you're the second from last and then Ron is the last.
• 5:15:10
  He goes, I got to call it a night, guys.
• 5:15:12
  Hope talk again sometime. Oh okay, that's wrong.
• 5:15:16
  I was forgot his name for Matt. Okay, well if you're still there
• 5:15:19
  wrong, nice meeting you. I'm sorry we started talking and
• 5:15:23
  I didn't even probably talking at all.
• 5:15:25
  So Well people got to kind of jump in there.
• 5:15:28
  They got a topic or some questions or things they want to
• 5:15:31
  get into. Very nice.
• 5:15:35
  Yeah, he's cool. I was shocked, he apparently
• 5:15:40
  he's been around since the start of me doing YouTube, he was
• 5:15:44
  there during the 8th day and me turning into Christ.
• 5:15:49
  That was Yeah. Yeah.
• 5:15:57
  He was saying to Tucker and Tucker was in the room that it
• 5:16:03
  was difficult for him to see how people treated me, and my, and
• 5:16:07
  my loved ones and all that back then.
• 5:16:10
  I didn't do anything. Then initiate the kind of
• 5:16:12
  hatred. I got but I got it anyway.
• 5:16:19
  Well. There is more telling about the
• 5:16:23
  person that does it, then the person that they're attacking.
• 5:16:28
  You know. Yeah.
• 5:16:32
  Yeah. well, I'm gonna I'm gonna get off here too Brett because
• 5:16:38
  I'm gonna eat and take off to Kentucky.
• 5:16:42
  All right? We have a good one, Robin.
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  Good to catch a kiss. We are sure you have a good
• 5:16:52
  night. All right, let's see you later.
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  Bye. Quietly.
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  I close my eyes. You tripped.
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  A little nearer? Silent mornings.
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  Your voice, just to whisper. Trace the outline where you
• 5:17:54
  would be.