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It's Time for a Face Off · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Phil Lamar, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown. Oh, man,
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  Speaker 1: I shot Marvin in the face.
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  Speaker 4: Here's what we do.
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  Speaker 1: I go into the face of the machine. Get a
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  Speaker 1: whole new face. Do you have quarters? Because it costs
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  Speaker 1: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Gina.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm Paul. And we're coming to you live via
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  Speaker 1: came up with a plan, and we're almost making good
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  Speaker 1: on it, somewhat in a reasonable amount of time after
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  Speaker 1: we came up with it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because usually we just have the idea.
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  Speaker 1: Usually we throw the idea out there, and then it's
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  Speaker 1: due 12 to 16 months later. We're like, let's follow
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  Speaker 1: up on that.
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  Speaker 5: Let's talk about that, because we always have so much
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  Speaker 5: to talk about that's of such great use to everyone,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. But this time, this is really real substantive stuff here.
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  Speaker 1: Important. Yes. In the world we live in, this, this
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  Speaker 1: is what we're missing. It's important.
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  Speaker 5: In these unprecedented times.
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  Speaker 6: Considering everything that is occurring in the world today, I
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  Speaker 6: think it's important that people are informed.
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  Speaker 1: And we are doing that job. We're informed. God help
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  Speaker 1: us all. No, we are informing. I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: we're everyone.
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  Speaker 6: But we are, you know.
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  Speaker 5: We are like a bad instruction sheet written in a
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  Speaker 5: different language and like translated to English.
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  Speaker 6: We are carpet bombing the internet with trivial information.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're wondering what it is we're rambling about,
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  Speaker 1: what we threw out there somewhat recently, at least within
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  Speaker 1: a few months ago.
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  Speaker 2: What was it?
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  Speaker 1: Somewhat for us recently. We came up with a... concept
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  Speaker 1: and idea that was called Face Off. Face Off. So,
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  Speaker 1: do you want to give them the pitch? Shall I
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  Speaker 1: do it? You were very entertained by this idea when
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  Speaker 1: we came up with it.
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  Speaker 5: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 6: I do like it because it all starts with the
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  Speaker 6: movie with John Travolta and Nicolas Cage known as Face Off.
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  Speaker 1: Face Off. In which... um.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously one guy is the good guy and one guy
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  Speaker 6: is the bad guy i'm not going to give anything.
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  Speaker 1: Away spoiler alert it's arguable they might both be bad
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  Speaker 1: guys that's true however at some point in the movie
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  Speaker 1: um they have a surprise surgery in which they swap.
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  Speaker 6: Faces it's Hence, face off.
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  Speaker 1: And later on in the movie, they swap back. Face on,
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  Speaker 1: face off. Face off, face on. There's a switch somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Face on, face off.
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  Speaker 6: And so we thought, well, wouldn't it be interesting using
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  Speaker 6: this as the touchpoint for.
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  Speaker 1: The rest of their careers? As the framework.
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  Speaker 6: If they swapped careers, you know, not necessarily at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Moment but at any time yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah swapped careers and you know and there were weird
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  Speaker 6: things that happened whereas nicholas cage was in pulp fiction
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  Speaker 6: instead of john travolta what would that be like and
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  Speaker 6: what could we expect and so that evolved from there
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  Speaker 6: to any possible switcheroo of uh A or B list
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  Speaker 6: actor out there in the world.
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  Speaker 5: Well, here's like a weird side note that I thought
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  Speaker 5: about earlier today. They, on Netflix, I don't, can I
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  Speaker 5: mention Netflix? Is that like a, I mean, the world
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  Speaker 5: mentions Netflix.
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  Speaker 1: Unless you're going to shut them down in the next
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks so that that doesn't make sense anymore.
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  Speaker 6: Is there any pending litigation I need to know about?
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  Speaker 5: So anyway, Now their careers are kind of mirroring one
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  Speaker 5: another because they're both in these strange movies that show
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  Speaker 5: up on Netflix that are like, are they like Eastern European?
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  Speaker 5: So anyway, yeah, they're like these weird movies that keep
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  Speaker 5: showing up and it's like John Travolta or Nicolas Cage
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  Speaker 5: are in these things where you're like, is this a?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they both have made very strange choices in
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  Speaker 1: their careers. And I don't know, I hadn't thought as
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  Speaker 1: much about Nicolas Cage because Nicolas Cage almost seems very
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  Speaker 1: above the board. Like, you can't look at some of
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  Speaker 1: the stuff he's making and not think even he doesn't realize, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is weird. It's the other ones, like, those I've
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  Speaker 1: just sort of, like, come to terms with quite a
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  Speaker 1: while ago, that Nicolas Cage is a weirdo and he
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  Speaker 1: makes weird movies. It's the ones that I was thinking
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  Speaker 1: back over the years that some of the things John
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  Speaker 1: Travolta has done... And I was just like, what the
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  Speaker 1: hell is he thinking on many occasions? What the hell?
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  Speaker 1: Like what person at his status? Give us an example. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: the the one that occurred to me the other day
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  Speaker 1: is someone referenced hairspray.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, that is a completely fascinating thing, because who wouldn't
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  Speaker 5: want to be in a like awesome John Waters film?
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  Speaker 1: Kind of. If it were the first time around. But
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they're already remaking it in a pretty
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  Speaker 1: short span of time, if you ask me. And then
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  Speaker 1: to step into that role, it was so identifiable with
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  Speaker 1: that very.
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  Speaker 5: Specific actor or actress.
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  Speaker 1: However, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Because it was like a Disney retailing appearance.
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  Speaker 1: But it was a weird, super mainstream version of that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That like then to take what is still arguably one
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  Speaker 1: of the bigger actors in the world and like, here,
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  Speaker 1: put on this weird giant suit and pretend to be
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  Speaker 1: a woman. And it's just a strange choice to make
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  Speaker 1: for any actor. Most of the time, I would think,
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  Speaker 1: but definitely somebody like that big at that point in
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  Speaker 1: their career to come off of Wild Hogs. And go
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  Speaker 1: right into the makeup to be in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the hairspray to the Broadway-er version. I don't know. It's
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  Speaker 1: a weird move to make. And then I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's like one of about 20 or 30 of those moves.
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  Speaker 1: Like he's made a lot of weird, questionable decisions over
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  Speaker 1: the years. Sometimes they turn out great. And other times
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  Speaker 1: you're like, what the.
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  Speaker 6: Hell are you doing?
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  Speaker 5: Man, yeah, I'm looking at this man's career as, oh, orientation,
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  Speaker 5: a Scientology information film.
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  Speaker 1: That's not even getting into that part.
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  Speaker 5: No, I was just, that is something that came out
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  Speaker 5: and shows up in 1996. So that's pretty fascinating. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: when you think about it, you know, like, get shorty.
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  Speaker 1: See, that's the thing. There's times where he can, and
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing, he can play normal okay. Depending on
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  Speaker 1: the type of movie and how far back you go.
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  Speaker 5: But I feel like that was the same character almost
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  Speaker 5: from Pulp Fiction, but not.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a stretch. But again, those are
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  Speaker 1: both kind of normal guys, which he can do. That's
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  Speaker 1: the weird thing in comparing him to Nicolas Cage. It
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  Speaker 1: is hard to find Nicolas Cage as a regular guy.
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  Speaker 1: Even when he's supposed to be playing a regular guy,
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  Speaker 1: he's always off. Like, it's always just like, huh, this
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  Speaker 1: is Nicolas Cage trying to be a regular guy, but
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  Speaker 1: he's still mostly just Nicolas Cage.
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  Speaker 6: Two very different kind of appeals, right? Like, John Travolta
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  Speaker 6: sort of started as the handsome, bold.
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  Speaker 1: Don't touch the hair.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to turn on the hair.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, he's touching the hair.
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  Speaker 6: Kind of an Italian stallion type of guy.
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  Speaker 1: Stereotype almost.
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  Speaker 6: But it went, you know, did grease and had all
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  Speaker 6: that kind of thing. Nick Cage started as a weirdo.
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  Speaker 1: And he hasn't really left that. He's intensified it. Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: But I think.
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  Speaker 6: Travolta has gone more weirdo and Cage has sort of
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  Speaker 6: dialed it back a little bit, I think.
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  Speaker 1: Cage has gotten to the point, especially recently, that he
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  Speaker 1: just picks weird projects. So no matter what he does,
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  Speaker 1: everything around him is equally as weird as his performance.
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  Speaker 1: So it doesn't seem so strange. I know because I
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  Speaker 1: just recently watched Mandy. As much as we talked about
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  Speaker 1: it for these last couple of years, I finally just
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  Speaker 1: sat down and watched it. And I was like, yep, yep.
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  Speaker 1: this is this is what everybody was talking about i
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  Speaker 1: i get it kind of i mean as much as
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  Speaker 1: you get mandy but it's amazing like it's phenomenal but
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  Speaker 1: you don't notice him and not that he's not doing
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  Speaker 1: like that version of him in the bathroom there is
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  Speaker 1: the most nicholas cage seen ever in any movie but
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  Speaker 1: in that movie you don't really notice it so much
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  Speaker 1: because everything else is going off the rails at any
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  Speaker 1: given moment so like so then following that up with
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  Speaker 1: like that out of color whatever the hell that other
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  Speaker 1: one was he just did.
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  Speaker 5: That's is that the one that's like made in latvia
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  Speaker 5: or something like there's a bunch of like weird.
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  Speaker 1: Oh He's done... Well, again, he also got into that
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  Speaker 1: weird situation where he had to start making things.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, like he had bills to pay.
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  Speaker 1: So, like... Color out of space. That's the one, yes.
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  Speaker 1: That one is another really weird, but again, is supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's a Lovecraft thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's dealing with such a weird concept to begin
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  Speaker 1: with that you don't even question it. Throwing Nicolas Cage
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of it. You're like, all right, whatever.
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  Speaker 5: But could you throw John Travolta in it? How would
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  Speaker 5: that fare?
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  Speaker 1: That is the game we are playing. Again, as weird
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  Speaker 1: as it's gotten lately, probably.
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  Speaker 6: I think that they're easily swappable in just about everything.
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  Speaker 6: That's the real trick. Finding one that they can't.
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  Speaker 5: I think they could play every single character in the Meg,
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  Speaker 5: including the Meg. Like, you could just put their... Yes.
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  Speaker 5: You could do the fake thing and put their faces
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  Speaker 5: on every single character.
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  Speaker 6: Jason Statham.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. Throw him out.
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  Speaker 6: Dwight Schrute.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, throw him out.
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  Speaker 1: Those two. Why can't I think of his name?
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  Speaker 5: Dwight Schrute.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just going through, and it just looks like pretty
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  Speaker 6: much I could definitely see Travolta doing the Wicker Man,
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  Speaker 6: the remake.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 6: National Treasure.
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  Speaker 1: Easily.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm probably like battling for that role.
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  Speaker 1: Easily.
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  Speaker 5: But I can't substitute John Travolta for like Vampire's Kiss
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  Speaker 5: or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Like now I think you could. Now you could. He's
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  Speaker 1: gotten to that. Like if you did an older version
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  Speaker 1: of him being that crazy, I could definitely see him
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  Speaker 1: doing it.
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  Speaker 5: But Nicolas Cage was so like.
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  Speaker 1: But the young version of him, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: he could have pulled it off the same.
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  Speaker 5: And then could Nicolas Cage pull off like the Saturday
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  Speaker 5: Night Fever version? role, which would be insane.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that it would have been.
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  Speaker 5: It would have been weird and dark.
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  Speaker 1: It would have been so much darker.
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  Speaker 6: It would have been really interesting him like with his
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  Speaker 6: Italian family.
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  Speaker 1: He does have that.
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  Speaker 5: He has that. I mean, he's a Coppola.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Sitting, sitting around the, uh, the dining room table. Um,
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  Speaker 6: but everyone else would be like that over the top
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  Speaker 6: stereotype and he would be Nick Cage not being that way.
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  Speaker 1: But, um, Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I see them completely interchangeable. Con Air.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 6: Leaving Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 5: I kind of love Con Air.
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  Speaker 1: Con Air is so bad. Let's switch to Travolta.
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  Speaker 5: Oh!
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  Speaker 6: The boy in the plastic bubble.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, God. Actually, that.
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  Speaker 5: I can see that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a young Nick Cage sitting in a plastic bubble.
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  Speaker 6: That totally makes sense. I can see that. Urban Cowboy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, actually, I'm looking at a list of, like, nicholas
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  Speaker 5: cage films and i honestly thought i was looking at
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  Speaker 5: the list of john travolta.
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  Speaker 1: Movies you know what i mean look who's talking.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah anybody could be in that you could put like
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  Speaker 5: a mop in that it would be fine and look who's.
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  Speaker 1: Talking see that's the interesting thing though is that we
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  Speaker 1: have two entirely different trajectories career wise because we never
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  Speaker 1: had that other than the point where he got desperate
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  Speaker 1: for money nicholas cage never really had like a lull
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  Speaker 1: like He started off kind of small time getting in,
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  Speaker 1: you know, your weird early stuff. But then by the
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  Speaker 1: time he broke, like he was just A-list and like
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  Speaker 1: just kept making huge movies, good, bad or otherwise. Like
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  Speaker 1: he just turned up in a ton of movies from
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  Speaker 1: that point on. Where John Travolta definitely had that up
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  Speaker 1: and coming Hollywood big shot kid vibe. makes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: two or three classic films. Everybody loves him. And then
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  Speaker 1: it died off once already. Like he was art. Like
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  Speaker 1: I remember even at the time they were talking about,
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  Speaker 1: look who's talking as his like big comeback. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 1: that was then.
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  Speaker 5: And then Pulp Fiction.
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  Speaker 1: And then like, but yeah, like from look who's talking,
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  Speaker 1: he still never really recovered into a normal career. That
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  Speaker 1: was like the most normal role he could get at
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  Speaker 1: that point in time. And then it was the, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what Tarantino does. He, like, decided, you know what, I
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  Speaker 1: think you have some chops. I'm going to actually give
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  Speaker 1: you this role and see what you can do with it.
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  Speaker 1: And from that point on, it, like, took off in
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  Speaker 1: a wave. Like, nothing like, I mean, even compared to, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, your Saturday Night Fever in Greece. Like, that's
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  Speaker 1: as close as you get, like, the whole rest of
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  Speaker 1: his career to what happened after that. After that, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: he had that second wave kick in that was so
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  Speaker 1: much bigger. And I think still made him more of
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  Speaker 1: a household name than he was before. I think before
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  Speaker 1: he was, you know, teenage girls loved him and like
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  Speaker 1: people who like those specific movies, but he still wasn't,
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  Speaker 1: he was probably just as recognizable for welcome back Cotter,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as he was to for most people, you know,
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  Speaker 1: as he was in his movie roles and then he
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  Speaker 1: disappeared and nobody cared anymore. So like, that's a weird
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  Speaker 1: way to, to kind of, pit these two against each
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  Speaker 1: other because Nicolas Cage never had that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah well I mean but how did he get cast
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  Speaker 5: in like how did he get cast in Con Air
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  Speaker 5: and that was my like question the other day when
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  Speaker 5: we were talking about it it's like how did he
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  Speaker 5: become like.
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  Speaker 1: An action guy That's a weird game that everyone that
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  Speaker 1: becomes an action person, I ask all the time. When
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  Speaker 1: they aren't. It's different when you're just up and coming
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  Speaker 1: and that's what you reference Jason Statham. That's all he's
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  Speaker 1: ever been. That's all you do. He came on the
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  Speaker 1: scene and they were like, oh, who's this guy? He
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  Speaker 1: sure seems to know how to kick people's asses. And
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  Speaker 1: you're like, from that point on, you're like, works. You
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  Speaker 1: can put him in any action movie. We're on board.
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  Speaker 1: We don't question it. But when you've already built a
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  Speaker 1: career as not an action type of person. And then
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  Speaker 1: suddenly you're thrown into it. My go-to is usually the
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  Speaker 1: Liam Neeson thing. Because he spent most of his career
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  Speaker 1: not an action guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Until he became an old man.
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  Speaker 1: Until he became an old dude. And then they went,
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  Speaker 1: you know what? All you're going to do from here
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  Speaker 1: on out is action movies. So, like, not to get
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  Speaker 1: sidetracked on him, but, like, with any of those guys,
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  Speaker 1: it's like that's just a weird move when suddenly you
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  Speaker 1: become an action star when you weren't already.
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  Speaker 5: But it's really hard to go from raising Arizona. Like, mentally,
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  Speaker 5: I can't make the jump. Of him in Raising Arizona
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  Speaker 5: to face-off. Back to face-off, right? Like, that is so, like,
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  Speaker 5: who would cast him for that?
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  Speaker 1: Why would any.
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  Speaker 5: National treasure. Yeah, and then it's like, send that guy
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  Speaker 5: to the gym and make him a.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Make him an action hero. Send him to the gym,
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  Speaker 5: give him human growth hormone, and make him an action hero. Like,
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  Speaker 5: that's so random. Well, he.
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  Speaker 1: What was the... Because I think I saw it in
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  Speaker 1: the freaking theater. Kiss of Death. Did you see Kiss
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  Speaker 1: of Death? It's 1995. If I remember, it was during
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  Speaker 1: that time when they were really going to make a
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  Speaker 1: CSI dude a movie star. That guy. Caruso, right? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: David Caruso. They were pushing. There was a couple of
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  Speaker 1: Kiss of Death and Jade. They just kept shoving him
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  Speaker 1: in as a leading man in a movie. Everybody kind
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  Speaker 1: of went, no, we're okay. We're cool. He can, he's,
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  Speaker 1: he can show up on my TV, but like, I
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: don't need to pay money to go see him. So yeah.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: So that was what it was centered around was David Caruso,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: but the heavy, and I kind of mean this literally,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: like that's one of the ones I remember getting to
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: the theater going, Oh, what is Nicholas Cage done? Because
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: he like worked out, like he was the big dude
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: that was there to kick people's ass all of a sudden.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: in like 1995 whereas again he was the skinny dorky
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: guy like you know six eight years before that he
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: would have been in birdie you know he's doing all
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: these other so like that is right there it's like
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: he's still doing comedies he's still trapped in paradise and
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: leaving las vegas and drama but then like right after
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: that like from kiss of death we jump up two
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: movies to the rock con air face off the snake
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: eyes like everything from that point on it's like it's
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: just fine to cast them in something.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: In 60 seconds yeah like there's there's all kinds.
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: Of wow and then it captain corelli's mandolin yeah and
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: then it goes to captain.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Corelli's mandolin and there's wild cards in the matter what
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: you'll always run across those.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: Like what happened i just i'm looking at this and
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: i'm like i don't.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: But I think that's it. I think he made a
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: because nothing before that like everything else he still had
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the same kind of wonky skinny guy like even like
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Firebirds is like a military kind of movie but I'm
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: like he still kind of look like himself. So everything
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: before that he was just that dorky guy from Moonstruck.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: But Kiss of Death like he went he worked out
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: he was going to be the big heavy duty physical
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: guy and like from that point on he like had
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: his foot in the door and he's like oh well
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I can do this stuff now and like It never
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: turned back after that.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: But honestly, if you look at what he's made, it's
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: way more impressive than John Travolta.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's been in a lot better movies.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: He's been in a lot better movies.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But John Travolta's had really good performances along the way.
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: But he's turned up in a lot of garbage.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: But you know what I'm saying? That's kind of weird
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: when you do... look at their career next to one another.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: You think Travolta is the bigger star, I guess, in
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: my mind.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Again, it's a toss-up.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: There's Travolta, and then there's Nicolas Cage, because I still
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: think of Nicolas Cage as the weirdo.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and there's like a....
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: There may be a different or the same ratio of
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: cult classics in either filmography. I think those are the
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: ones that really have the big impact. So for Travolta,
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: it would be Pulp Fiction, obviously.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: That's your go-to anyway. Yeah.
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah. And then... Cage would be Raising Arizona, which happened
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: much earlier.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: See, I think that's a hit and miss, though. Because
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: to this day, you either love Raising Arizona or you don't.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: You either have never seen it or you just don't care.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: You're like, I don't like those Coen Brothers movies. But
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: there's not much middle ground on that because it's so
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: in your face as a movie. It's not something you
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: can casually be like, this is all right. You either
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: get it. Plus, because it's the Coen brothers, and as
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: time went on, their entire career became that way. It's
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: like you're not... You rarely do you find a casual Coen.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I like Fargo, but I don't like those other ones.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: It's like usually you're all in, or you're just like,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I don't really like those guys. It's like there's a
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: lot to kind of love or hate with them versus...
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: Well, what's another... What would be another?
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to think. What's a cult classic?
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, Valley Girl. If we're looking for... old cheesy go-to's.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: Honeymoon in Vegas.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: That's one of those super mainstream ones. He was in Moonstruck. Yeah.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: That's a classic.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: That was probably his most mainstream recognizable and the thing
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: is when I think back on it because I think
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: of it as sort of a mainstream Hollywood movie but
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: he's still such a weirdo. He's got a wooden hand
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: for fuck's sake. Yeah. And on top of that, the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: only reason anybody remembers it is him getting smacked. That's
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the only reason anybody remembers that movie.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: I think I liked Birdie, but I didn't remember that
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: he was in it. I remember Matthew Modine was in it.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: And Peter Gabriel did the soundtrack. Which is what sold
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: me on it as a kid. Not to nerd.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Be a nerd.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: Show my age.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Extra nerd.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: Nerdy old lady.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: Well, so we sort of discussed those two. But we
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: also came up with some other swaps, some face-offs.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, we can just endlessly swap people.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: But those two are just fascinating to me because I'm like,
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: I don't understand how iDragon got there.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: That's why it was such an entertaining concept. When you're
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: faced with that idea, you could go on and on
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: about Nick Cage and John Travolta. But who would be other.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: But wait, I have to... Good swaps.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: I have to backtrack just a tiny bit. Like, if
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: you had to pick your favorite roles for them to swap,
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: what would you choose?
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Interesting. All right.
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: Between Nick Cage and.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like, if you had to say, I want to
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: see each as that, that, you know, I'm curious what
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: you all would.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Hmm. Especially with these two, because they have such long careers.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: It makes this... You almost have to pick a time period.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: It's hard to take old now version of them and
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: try to jam them into something from 30 years ago.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: But if you can pick movies that were around the
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: same time, you might be able to swap out. So
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: let's see. Do we want the most them? Like the
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: most identifiably them? Because that's what's weird is they both
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: do very generic movie stuff. On occasion. Like, just looking at, like,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Nicolas Cage seems like such a weirdo. That, like, he
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: seems like he would just be a weirdo and everything.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: But you look back at, I mean, City of Angels. Yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I know, I know. And, like, leaving Las Vegas is heavy. But, again, not, like,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: his style of weird heavy. And then, like, right before that,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: doing Honeymoon in Vegas. So it's, like, it's such a cheesy,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: normal kind of a rom-com thing. rom-com with a gangster
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: boss kind of a thing.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: I like the idea of Nicolas Cage in Battleship... Battlefield Earth.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Whatever that is. I love the idea of that because
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: that character was so bizarre anyway.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: That movie is pretty damn bizarre.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: It's incredibly bizarre. It's super strange. But I just like
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: that idea.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like he could roll right into that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: He could roll right into it and be weird. And
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: then obviously... I want to see Travolta a national treasure.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: So I think that those are in the same timeline,
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: but I'd be so curious to see him as like,
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: we're going to steal the, what was it, the Constitution
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: of the United States of America or whatever it is.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: Declaration of Independence.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Declaration of Independence.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Or something. Eventually you'll have to watch these movies, but
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: not now. Don't worry.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: No, I've watched them. I just watch a lot of things,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: like Outback Truckers.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: That's up to you. I don't know if either of
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: them are licensed. Wait, everything's a question?
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: No, it's New Zealand. Wait, everything's a question?
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: Everything's a question? In Australia, too?
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: Not so much.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Nothing? You got nothing?
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I see them.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: Nothing in particular stands out as one I'd want to see.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: National treasure with John Travolta. I just can't not want
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: to go there.
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, I just You know, I just have a
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: hard time picking one. I mean, I could see Travolta
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: doing The Rock.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Wasn't he in The Rock?
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: No, it was Nick Cage in.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: Wasn't he in Con Air? I mean, those movies are
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: just the same movie.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: No, it's Broken Arrow. You're doing the Woo action movie
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: that had Travolta in it, but not Nicholas Cage.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: I thought that was Nicholas Cage that was in it.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, for the love of God. I mean, you can
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: switch out with so many of these and it wouldn't
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: make much difference. Something like knowing. I mean, the movie's interesting,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: but his performance is not really Nicolas Cage worthy. So
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: you could easily do a boring run of the mill
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: John Travolta thrown in the middle of it and I
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: don't think it would change anything.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: I would want to see Nick Cage do Phenomenon.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: What if we just substituted John Turturro for all their roles?
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: We'll just settle this right here and make it better.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, he is very nondescript. We never know what
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: to do with John Turturro.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: We don't know what to do with him. He's good.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: You can put him in anything.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: I don't know who he is.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know where he's from. But he's a good actor,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: so we're just going to keep shoving him in.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: We're just going to put him in things. Don't take
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: no mess from nobody.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Switch.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: If they act up, just leave them alone.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Switch.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: Don't take no mess from nobody.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Switch.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: And when you're done winning, you can send them home.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: I won't answer to no one.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: It's intermission time.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: So how about taking a break? Get out and stretch
• 27:27
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• 27:30
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• 27:33
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• 27:38
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• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, listen.
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: They strapped me into this electric chair, and this cat
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: comes up to me and said, Do you want to live?
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: Hmm.
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: So you know what I told him. Seems all I
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: have to do is volunteer for this medical experiment. So,
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: of course, I jumped at it. You know, because I'm innocent,
• 28:21
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• 28:24
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• 28:26
  Speaker 7: I wake up on the table... Attached to my body
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: is a head of a white dude. And he's looking
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: at me eyeball to eyeball.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: So I checked him out.
• 28:35
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• 28:38
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• 28:41
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• 28:43
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• 28:46
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• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Rated PG.
• 28:58
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• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Dig it.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: So guess what happened the other day?
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I went into a store. I know it's hard to
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: go out into the world, but I actually went into
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: a place and I brought my goods up to the
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: register and they went to ring me up and damned
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: if it didn't say 666.
• 29:34
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• 29:35
  Speaker 10: Fantastic.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: And the woman behind the counter went, oh god! She
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: kind of responded, and I was like, nah, that seems
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: about right. It's fine. So, it's obvious that we're in
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: tune with the dark forces of the universe.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Clearly.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: And, you know, one of those things is probably because
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: we're always rolling 20-sided dice.
• 30:00
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• 30:04
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• 30:07
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• 30:10
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• 30:13
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• 30:15
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• 30:18
  Speaker 1: this is one of the things we're doing now is
• 30:20
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• 30:24
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• 30:28
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• 30:32
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• 30:35
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• 30:56
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• 30:59
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• 32:48
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• 32:50
  Speaker 2: That's happened to me a handful of times. And I'm
• 32:53
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• 33:10
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• 33:13
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• 33:17
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• 33:20
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• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Well, let's say you buy something for $ 3. 34 and all
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• 34:18
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• 34:19
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• 34:20
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  Speaker 1: Well, I know. We're going to swap faces of other
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: people now.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: Who would you all face-off? Who's your next face-off? How
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: about swapping faces? Randy Quaid, Dennis Quaid. As we know,
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: I love to talk about the Quaid brothers.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Why? I'm not sure. But see that one, you get
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: an entirely different take.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: Because they are the, they're very different. They're the microcosm
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: of the macrocosm. Do I have that backwards? It's like
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: everybody in their life has a Dennis and Randy Quaid.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Is this like a life lesson? It is a life lesson.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: We're all supposed to take.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: There's always like, yeah, there's like, Well, there's so-and-so and
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: then he's got a friend or she's got a friend
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: and they're related or whatever. And it's like one's a
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Dennis Quaid to the Randy Quaid.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: You always look at him and go, brothers? What the
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: hell's up with that family?
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: Yes, I can see it. And Dennis Quaid's son looks
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: like a weird crammed together version of Randy Quaid and
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: Dennis Quaid.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's how he came to be. I
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: don't think so. I'm not going to question anything.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: He was created in a lab by a person who
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: played this game too much.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: It should be really easy for the Long Riders. Because
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: that's one of the only ones I think they're in together.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I think they did. Yeah, they're like cowboy movies and
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: of the group of cowboys, they're both mixed in there.
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: Think i liked that movie it's fun to swap randy
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: quaid for dennis quaid movies think of great balls of
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: fire with randy quaid oh god.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah i know that's awesome i mean.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: That would be amazing i feel like dennis has way
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: more to work with but maybe i'm.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: Wrong enemy mine dreamscape dreamscape randy quaid and dreamscape jaws
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: 3d oh.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: That's right randy quaid and jaws 3d that would be
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: great yeah that's a lot of fun.
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: They're they're good But what would Dennis Quaid do?
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. What do you
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: do with... At this point, people only know him as
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Cousin Eddie.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: He'd be Cousin Eddie. Even in Independence Day, he's still
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: just kind of being Cousin Eddie flying a plane. He's
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: still pretty much Cousin Eddie. That's what I'm trying to think.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: You have to go back pretty far to get a
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Randy Quaid performance that isn't kind of doing a variation
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: of Cousin Eddie.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: Kingpin.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I mean he is doing something different there i will
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: give you that um.
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: And that was the same year as independence day but
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: gosh so what dennis dennis quaid.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: In days of thunder.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember. When you get back to these
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: old ones, I don't even remember him in there. I'm like,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I know I've seen, like, they have him in Midnight Express?
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: How long has it been since I've watched Midnight Express?
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I was like, shit.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Right, and it's never good to have to go, uh,
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: Dennis Quaid in Cart Racer? 2003's Cart Racer? Which I
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: don't even know what that is.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Classic heart beeps, like anybody could make magic in heart beeps.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: Vegas Vacation. So what if you did Vegas Vacation where
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: you swapped... John Travolta. You swapped.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: You're all kinds of mixed up. No, no, no, no.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: It wasn't the other guy we were talking about.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Dennis?
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: No, before that. The other two. Nicholas Cage. Wasn't he
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: in Vegas Vacation?
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: No. No, that's Chevy Chase. Yeah. You're thinking of leaving
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Las Vegas or getting married in Vegas. Nicolas Cage is
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: in several Vegas movies, neither of which is Vegas Vacation.
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: Never mind.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, Dennis Quaid in The Wraith. I don't even know
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: what that is.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: What's The Wraith?
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you do.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: The car driver is some sort of spirit.
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: Of.
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: And he's just out to kill jerks that are on
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: the road, really. That's as far as the storyline goes.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Pretty much.
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: But Randy Quaid plays the sheriff.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: So I could kind of see... That's almost normal enough.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I could see Dennis Quaid being a normal type stand-in.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Because that's the thing. Dennis Quaid is always like the
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: most normal... In almost every movie he's in. He's finally
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: gotten away from that. That one he was just in
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: this last couple of years where he's like the unhinged
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: dude that's hanging around their house because he used to
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: live there. That's the most out there you've seen him.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Normally he's the main normal regular guy and then everybody
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: else is crazy.
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: Could you see Dennis Quaid being Cousin Eddie? Could he
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: do it?
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: Could you see Randy Quaid in the insurance commercials? Isn't
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: Dennis Quaid doing insurance commercials now?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Would you buy anything from Randy Quaid is the question.
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: I would not buy a knife that could cut through
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: tin cans and then tomatoes from him. I would not
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: do that.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: Wait, so let me go back. Before we comment, the
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: Long Riders came out in 1980?
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: I got to click on that.
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: It was also in Mice and Men. Randy Quaid was.
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: He played Lenny in Mice and Men.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Is that the Beretta one? 1981. Pretty sure that was Beretta.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: By that I mean Robert Blake. I mean, he's been
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: in a lot of stuff.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's got three Carradines. That is a triple Carradine film.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: See, it was nothing but guys who were related being
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: cowboys together. So it was all the Carradines, it was
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: the Quaids, it was the Keeches, yeah. That was the
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: gimmick of that project, more or less.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: Guess. Christopher Guess and Nicholas Guess. That's insane.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: I've got to go back and watch that again. Can
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: we watch that tonight?
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: No.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: There's lots of good hats.
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: All right, well, it'll be another good one. So, see,
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: this is a good example of how it could go
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: horribly wrong if you did a face-off with two actors together.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Clearly, those two don't work as well. They don't match up, really.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I just like the thought.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: Because one's handsome and one's not.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I know. It's fun.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: It's totally like just purely.
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: It's fun to put Randy Quaid into some of those scenarios.
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: But he hasn't had the career, obviously, that his brother has.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: No. He was edging his.
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: Lampoon vacation.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: He was edging his way in, though. Because I was just...
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I got to Caddyshack 2, which I've tried to block
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: out of my mind. But that was... bad what he
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: was doing there but I was like that was before
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Christmas Vacation that was already kind of doing that Cousin
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Eddie-esque character and it was the year before he started
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: doing Cousin Eddie so he was already headed down that
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: road this is weird yeah trying to find any normal
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: version of Randy Quaid.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: So maybe he's not a good one to do what
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: else do you all have.
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: Well oh well since we did Randy Quaid we should
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: Talk about who would be a good swap with Chevy Chase.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's interesting. Maybe it's an SNL. That's what I
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: was going to say. Are we just going with other
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: people of that time? Okay, well, here's the thing. Chevy
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Chase showed up on SNL because Bill Murray left. If
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I'm remembering the story.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: So if we then take those careers. And they were
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: both in Caddyshack. They were both, yeah, yeah. The original,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: not mind-blocking Caddyshack. The watchable.
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: The watchable Caddyshack.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: The one I still think of as classic, but truthfully,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: I've not watched it in a long time.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: I think we probably watch that once a year.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I wonder if it's horribly problematic now.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: You know, Bill Murray just has such charm as compared
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: to Chevy Chase, who has zero charm.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: At this point in particular has zero charm. Yeah. But
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: he used to pull it off.
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: I don't think so. I always, like, bought Dan Aykroyd
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: as having more charm than Chevy Chase, and that was
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: still low on the charm totem pole.
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: Well, the movies that Chevy Chase did with Goldie Hawn
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: back in the 70s and early 80s.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: See, he was super charming then.
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, he had a quirkiness about him that
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: was kind of charming. But Bill Murray has sort of
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: maintained it. And David Chase has lost it.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Bill Murray almost seems like it's always knowing. Like he
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: kind of knows what he's up to at every moment.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: He always seems like there's something else going on just
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: below the surface of Bill Murray. And that's not in
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: any role. When you talk to Bill Murray, it seems
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: like he's in on his own joke and he's doing
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: his own thing. But at the same time, there's something
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: else going on underneath the surface there. that I don't
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: think you ever got with Chevy Chase. No. Like, even
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: when he was charming, you would buy it. He was
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: still the fool. But he was still, yeah, he was
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: still just kind of that doofus. Doing the fall. And then, yeah,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: but there wasn't something else running below the surface.
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: Which I would say, like, you know, that's the thing
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: you get from Ghostbusters. That's where you've got that weird
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: underneath kind of thing happening. To me, that's what I think.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: That's what I remember.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: So now try to put Chevy Chase in the Binkman role.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: You can't.
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: You can't. I don't want to see that.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody can pull off Venkman. The
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: other ones you can kind of... You can come up
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: with an alternate Harold Remus, more or less. And even Ackroyd,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: he's fine at that point, but he's not doing anything
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: that's that specific. But Venkman is so through and through
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Bill Murray that... It would.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: That movie... He made it interesting.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, even the way it's written isn't
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: the same. Like if someone else just came in and
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: read all the exact same lines, it wouldn't be the
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: same performance that you're going to get from Bill Murray
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: being Bill Murray.
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: So let's go back to their heyday. So could you
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: put in Chevy Chase in like stripes?
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: No. It's not going to work. I don't think so either.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Because again, Stripes is so good because of that Bill
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Murray thing. Because otherwise, it falls into a whole bunch
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: of other sort of military silly movies that they were
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: trying to make at the time. The reason that one
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: stands out is the Bill Murray. Oh, Ramis helps too,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: but Bill Murray makes that move.
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: Could you see Bill Murray instead of Chevy Chase in
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: Spies Like Us with Dan Aykroyd?
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I could too. Yeah. It's so much easier to go
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: that way. Would anyone care about it even then?
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: Oh my God, I love Spies Like Us.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: It's just you, I think. It has some special moments.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I couldn't even tell you the last time I watched it.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: But even as a kid, I was just like, this isn't...
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: It's not a good movie. This isn't... Oh no, no, no.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: But it has its comedic.
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: Moments, like after they go through the G-Force machine and
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: they come out and they're like, chocolate dust. And yeah,
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: and their hair's all blown back.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I think the ultimate question is in Caddyshack, they're both there,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: can you switch the roles? Could you see Bill Murray
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: playing the cool golfer and then Chevy Chase having to
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: do the crazy backwards Bill Murray? I don't think Chevy
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Chase would pull that off. That would be way harder.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I think Bill Murray could totally pull off the Chevy
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Chase role. He could do Ty, but.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: Chevy Chase just would have been Ty, but making, you know.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Trying to kill a gopher.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, trying to kill a gopher.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Which still wouldn't work.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: Bill Murray's got more of that charm.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Bill Murray could totally have turned on, again, it would
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: be a different type of charm. Yeah, it's not the
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: shorty charm.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: It's that like earthy kind of self-aware. Because I would never, ever,
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: ever cast Chevy Chase in Lost in Translation. That would
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: never work for me.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Or Groundhog Day.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: He's just a dirty old man.
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: Or Scrooged.
• 49:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Or... Well, I mean, think about... That's the thing. You
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: got to a point where Bill Murray... Nobody really knew it,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I guess, early on. Razor's Edge aside, nobody had seen
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: him do anything but comedy. And then finally we got
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: to a point of like, oh... you know, he actually
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: is a good actor as well. Like he's not just
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: like super amazingly funny, but like he can do other
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: things where we never got that with Chevy Chase. Like
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: there isn't that level.
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: He's the guy on Community.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is. Especially now. He is a cranky old
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: bastard that nobody likes.
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: I found one that Chevy Chase could do instead of
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: Bill Murray. In 2000, Bill Murray played Bosley in the
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: first Charlie's Angels film. Chevy Chase could pull it off.
• 50:13
  Speaker 10: No.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Yep, he could. He's no Bernie Mac, but you know, whatever.
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: I'm just saying.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: What I would like to see, only because I remember
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: watching this a few years ago and it being such
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: a weak point for the movie, Bill Murray in Memoirs
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: of an Invisible Man. Because that was an interesting movie
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: with such miscasts I mean, it just, it so doesn't
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: work because it's Chevy Chase. So we, the audience are
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: trying to turn it into a comedy when it's not
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: a comedy.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: So the whole time we keep, and even, even Chevy
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Chase doesn't know how to not do that. So like
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: he's walking into a room and he's still like tripping
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: over stuff, you know, because it's what he does is
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: their entire rest of his career. So like, it's just,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: everything just doesn't fit for him. Now, Bill Murray is
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: still a weird way to go with it, but, it
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: makes it a whole different thing now. It's a whole
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: different project when you shove Bill Murray into that. And again,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: he has so much more depth that he could draw
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: from that would make it more interesting as well. Fletch. See,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: that's one of the few that works because it's Chevy Chase.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: There are a few movies you will say that, but
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: that So works because it's Chevy Chase.
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: Someone wrote that specifically for Chevy Chase.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, not really. It was a book before. But
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: it worked because it was Chevy Chase.
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, that made that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: That whole scene where he's playing for the Lakers. I
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: couldn't picture anyone else doing that specific scene. It was
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: very Chevy Chase.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: See, that's the thing. He keeps going into different characters
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: and stuff. Bill Murray just is Bill Murray at all times.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: It's kind of hard for him to switch up and become...
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Even when he's doing great acting, it's all a variation
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: of who he really is, more or less.
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: He's very Brando-esque.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Watching him try to do bad caricatures, which is what
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Tony Chase is doing. I don't know.
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: That's an interesting one.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: That one would be harder to do. But again, I
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: don't say that much. Because you could definitely, this was
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: one for years. The casting was questionable to begin with
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: because it never started off with them. But throwing different
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: people in the three amigos.
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Because it was never supposed to be those three guys.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: It got passed on so long. And because the SNL
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: guys kept dying. It wasn't originally supposed to be those
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: three guys, period. I'm pretty sure. So trying to put
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Bill Murray in there. This is interesting.
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: That is a, yeah.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: This is interesting.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that.
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: You know what?
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: No.
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: That's the one thing I'll give Chevy Chase. That's a
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: perfect movie.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, of all of them, three Amigos? For that. For him,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: for that.
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: Like, that's a good.
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: There were three Amigos and there were three Ghostbusters. What
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: if you swapped all three characters?
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's good. All right.
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: That's very good.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: I would buy. Yes.
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: That would be so weird.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Like mind altering.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: I think I said yes, because I like the idea
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: of ghostbusters as the three amigos. Now, I don't know
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: if I could take three amigos and make them ghostbusters.
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: Like if that doesn't.
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: So Martin short, uh, You could swap him out in
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: the Rick Morantis role.
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the Rick Morantis role could easily.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: But it's kind of hard for him to be. I mean, again,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: the other two don't have that much specific to do.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: So he could be like the Harold Ramis. I feel
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: like he could pull that off. Okay.
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: But Steve Martin, he would have to be. He would
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: have to be. Venkman?
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: No, I think Steve Martin would be a better.
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: McRoy?
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: No.
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: Harold Ramis?
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: You're running out of Ghostbusters.
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: There's a fourth Ghostbuster.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I know. That's what I was going to ask.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Are we keeping him or are we also swapping out
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: another person?
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: He was hired later.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: In the game.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's not the original. He was kind of like
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: the straight man.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. That's true.
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: And I think that Steve Martin plays that role very well.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: That's a weird move to bring him in that late.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to decide. Are we keeping
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Ernie Hudson or are we then taking Ernie Hudson and
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: jamming him in? Is he El Guapo?
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: I love Ernie Hudson.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Ernie Hudson as El Guapo. Because I'm like, who else
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: is in other than El Guapo? There's not really any
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: other memorable characters in three of these guys.
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: Would you say you have a plethora of sweaters?
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I would say he's in this.
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: He's more than a plethora.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: A plethora.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, I liked Ernie Hudson a lot in that
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: because it was like all this crazy stuff was going
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: on and he was like.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: He did nail that.
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it would have been. He was keeping it real. Yeah,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: it would have been.
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: But I think that Steve Martin would do that very well.
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: But, well, who.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: Well, I guess I've gotten us off track if you're
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: talking about switching out the three main guys then.
• 55:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: But, I mean, you know. So, if you swap just
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: the three main people.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Lord, that means we have to have Chevy Chase as
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: a Ghostbuster. I guess he gets the Ackroyd.
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: Again, Ackroyd's the least anything, really.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: He's just sort of there. Like, yeah, Ramis has a
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: very specific performance. And Bill Murray obviously does. So yeah,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: like the most shrug of it is always kind of
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: the Dan Aykroyd's just there and he's goofy.
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: So here's a funny thing. There's a, if you're not
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: in Louisville and listening to this, there's a local news guy.
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: And ever since I was a kid, like, I don't
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: know how this man is, but several of my friends
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: seem to have based their like personality on this local
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: news guy.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Why would anyone want to do that?
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: Because he was like the, Amalgamation of a David Letterman,
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: Chevy Chase, Dan Aykroyd, generic funny guy.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Not any news I have ever seen.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: Well, it was radio. Like a radio dude. And so
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: it's always interesting to me because I kind of like
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: think of Chevy Chase and Dan Aykroyd as the same
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: like generic loop of they're funny, but there's.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Not a lot of substance. That's true.
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: Yes, I think that that would be an easier face-off.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: There are no Letterman.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, those two would be a lot easier.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: I didn't mean to throw Letterman. Any Letterman, really, honestly,
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: is good.
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to think of, what was that Aykroyd movie where,
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: I can't remember who the straight people were in this movie.
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: I'll have to look it up, but you know, they
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: find themselves in this like weird town in New Jersey.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: Oh my God, I love that movie.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Huh? Nothing But Trouble? Yes.
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: Nothing But Trouble.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: With Demi Moore?
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: It's so bad. It's good. It's awesome.
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: Is that Jeff Goldblum in that?
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Who's the straight guy?
• 57:47
  Speaker 10: No.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: It's... Who is that? Hang on. Well, anyway. I'm pretty
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: sure I saw that in the damn thing. You could definitely.
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: You did?
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I did. John Candy? You could easily... No,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: you could cop.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: Chevy Chase in the Dan Aykroyd role.
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: Because they're generic.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, they kind of are. That's the thing. Both
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: of them I have great performances in particular. More Chevy.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I never really was all that impressed
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: with Aykroyd. The most impressive he ever was was early SNL.
• 58:21
  Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Seeing him do that kind of stuff was great. And
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: like maybe Blues Brothers, but like from that point on,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: like it just. It never, it was the same thing
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: over and over. It got more and more generic and
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: boring and just kind of like, eh, here he is again.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Weird when he started trying to do like straight rolls too. Yeah,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: that doesn't work. Like when he's doing My Girl and
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Driving Miss Daisy and like. Yeah, there's so many. There's
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: just strange turns as time went on that I'm like,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: so there's the game. Can you put Chevy Chase in
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: his straight rolls?
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: And he's Canadian.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Which I forgot. Everybody is. But can you put Chevy
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Chase as the dad in my group?
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: They're generic. Yeah, sure.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Is he the one hiring driving Miss Daisy?
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: So it should be obvious to everyone that we don't
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: talk about what we're really talking about before we talk
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: about it.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: You said you specifically wanted to do it that way.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: I know, I love that.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: And that's why we're just winging it. Because I figure
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: we're going to come up with insanity either way, so
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: we might as well just see what we come up with.
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, I mean, you could throw Chevy Chase and Coneheads.
• 59:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: You could throw him in Dragnet. I mean, they're all just.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: There's nothing that's so out there that's weird. I mean,
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: he's easy to swap.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: I'm looking for the one that won't work.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Between those two? Well, okay.
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: So one of mine... Oh, okay.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Never mind.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: I was going to talk about another one.
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, between those two. And I don't know that I
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: see it. Hmm.
• 59:58
  Speaker 9: Oh.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: Oh, my gosh. And you know what would have been
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 6: genius if Chevy Chase had done Trading Places? He would
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: have been so good in that role.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: As a Winthorpe. Hmm. He would have been perfect.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: No, because Chevy Chase, there was still something very blue-collar
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: about him as opposed to Dan Aykroyd.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Again, that's probably one of the better Dan Aykroyd.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: He's really good in that. from both angles as being
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: the snobby guy at the beginning and then when he
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: loses it like it's pretty it's pretty entertaining how over
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: the top he is so it kind of.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: Works i'd still like to see it i'd still like
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: to see it i'd watch it.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it would work but what if
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: you took the cast of pretty woman and made it into.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Trading places i mean it's kind of like People love
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: hookers is what we're learning. What if you from Pretty
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Woman to Milk Money to We make a lot of
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: happy hooker movies.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: But those are two very likable women. What if you.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: Took the actors from Trading Places and put them into
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: Pretty Woman.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: So Dan Aykroyd would be Julia Roberts.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Do we want to Because he's tall. Do we want
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: to swap out the... We haven't done any women. Do
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: we want to do a Julia Roberts and Demi Moore?
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: No, and I'll tell you why. Because women are so
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: generically written. Don't even get me started.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Let's get you started.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's the problem.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's a good point. Let's talk about it.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Because they are.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: Nothing but TNA. Like, there's not.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying a lot of times that's not true.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: But when you get to be a starring role when
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: you're a recognizable name, and then a persona gets built
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: into it.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: So you're saying like a Twister era Helen Hunt with
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: a Jodie Foster era, or a Contact era, same time.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, you could swap those two. However, Jodie Foster
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: is not kind of as sweet and cute and likeable.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I think she is, but I have a weird Jodie Foster.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: But you know what I'm saying? That's not the way
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: most people are.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: But she's still, like, even if you love her, she
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: still seems arm's length.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: She's like, yeah, she's a little cooler.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: She's like, just stay away, okay? Just get away from me.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: But that's a problem. I mean, I, you know, I
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: don't even want to talk about writing women and the
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: way that's been handled for our entire childhood.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: But I think once you got to the big names,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: they started to infuse themselves or at least their persona
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: in their performances. No, I think they were specifically... So
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: some of the times I don't think that.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: I think they were specifically written for those women. Like, Witness,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: how many women tried out for.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 9: The, you know.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: Kelly McGillis.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: Kelly McGillis's. She didn't get that because she was that great.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: But she wasn't already a name.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: She was because she was in.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Nobody cares about Top Gun.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: Top Gun. She was in Top Gun. Top Gun.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: But that's not one, one performance doesn't make you that level.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: If you're a woman, it does.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: It did. I'm talking about like when you become like
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: the go-to A-list group of like five women that get
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: cast in everything. If you get to that point, you
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: start seeing them become more of their character versus every
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: other female role usually is written pretty generically and they
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: do just kind of shove people in there. But I think,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: when you're Julia Roberts, you know, you make sure that
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: you get the roles that you want and you start to, like,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: see this common version of them coming through in all
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: these roles. Not when she starts, but when she gets
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: to the point of being, like, an A-list name. But
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: not everybody, because that's one of those throwing Demi Moore
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: in there. I'm like, she never really brought anything specific to,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: no offense to her, but, like, she was pretty forgettable
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: in most of it. Even the ones that were kind
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: of successful. There just wasn't a lot personalized, yeah, thrown
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: in there. Versus somebody like Julia Roberts definitely has a
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: very specific personality that gets thrown on each character.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: And Julia Roberts is, I think, just a more dynamic actress.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: She did Aaron Brockovich. I could not see Demi Moore
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: doing Aaron Brockovich.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 9: No.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I could see them trying to put her in there.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I could see them being like.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: At the time? Listen!
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: But I could also see Julia Roberts doing G.I. Jane
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: and doing it better.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Probably. Yeah. Probably. But, you know, that's just me. But
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: Like, the women were always kind of this, like, just
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: thrown off.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: They were the eye candy.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Stereotype.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Of whatever.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: But in a sense, and I totally agree with what
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 6: you're saying, but in a sense, all roles... Are a
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 6: stereotypical thing.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's because they're all written by the same
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: kind of person.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: Or they were. Hopefully things have changed.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: I was going to go the other way. I was like,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: are you only talking about during your growing up times?
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Because then I think it got probably worse. But I
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: was like, you go back to the 40s, I don't
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: think that's true at all. I think female characters were
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: written better. The performances were probably better. They just had
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: way more going on in older movies, really, than by
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: the time you got to definitely the 80s.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, what we're talking about is kind of
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: dealing with our childhood and that era and those people.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: And definitely that's when it became like.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Definitely like, yeah, that 80s era, you're hard-pressed to find somebody...
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Cause even I was trying to think of people that
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: were popular in, in as like a leading lady that
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: kind of got their own movies built around them. Somebody
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: like Goldie Hawn. She was like really identifiable, but she
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: still kind of played the, again, she was almost doing it.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: She played it, but she played like she leaned into it.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: She was like, this is my money and this is
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: what I do. She eventually tried to do other stuff too,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: but like, For the most part, yeah, her stuff was
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: still identifiably her, but yet at the same time, like,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: not really much to it.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 8: To it.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: It's like a Sharon Stone and a, oh, Katniss Everdeen.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: What's her face?
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: Jennifer Lawrence. She's from here.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: They are very different.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: They're totally different. Time periods, but I could see Jennifer
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: Lawrence doing a good job.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: I think Jennifer Lawrence has way more to work with
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: than Sharon Stone.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: She does, but because Sharon Stone was written for these
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: roles that were probably written for her, you can look
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: at the things that she was in and be like, God,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: Jennifer Lawrence could have kicked ass in that.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Kind of, I mean. Because again, like there's nothing, no
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: offense to Sharon Stone. She's been decent in several movies,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: but like she never, yeah. It's like that was also
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: that era when they were just finding somebody to put
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: in there. I feel like we weren't really, that falls
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: right into that category.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: Into that category, right.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: They weren't really put, because you could, I mean, to me,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: you could easily swap out Demi Moore and Sharon Stone
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: in half.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: In anything, and that wouldn't matter.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: And like, I'd be like, yeah, it's a shrug at
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: that point.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: Whatever you prefer at that point. But I think that
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: Jennifer Lawrence could do a really good job with the
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: role in Casino.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: That had a lot of depth and was heavy and
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: could have been.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Better. Sharon.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, Sharon Stone did a fine job with it.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Sharon Stone's coming at you is what we're going to....
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: And not that I hate Sharon Stone. I just... I
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: think that role could have been so intriguing.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: You know, I've heard not good stories about her personally, so.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 6: I don't have an opinion about her. I.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: Love Demi Moore, though. I mean, I think that she's
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: an interesting....
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: I have a good swap. Person.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: Nancy McKeon.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 10: What?
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Hey, I will take her in anything. But her movies
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: are not as.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: No, but if you imagine Joe from Facts of Life
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: as any Demi Moore.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: I will put... Joe in any movie anywhere. She could be.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: Indiana Jones and that's sacred to me.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: I am a little too into Joe Polvichek. Thank you
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: very much. That's just me.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: You could put her in any Harrison Ford role.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: I was not a Blair fan. No. It really is
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: like formative though as a child when you like attach
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: yourself to very specific people. Probably on TV because that's
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: what kids do. You watch TV. Especially if you're a
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: latchkey kid. If you're a latchkey kid, it says.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: A lot about you.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: That's probably why you all hang out with me because
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: I'm way more joe than.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Eh, you're like a tootie. I wish I had roller skates.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Now go get your roller skates.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: It's because I had braces, right?
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, whatever.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: All right, so what would be another.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: Well, so we're talking about Harrison Ford. Harrison Ford and
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: Kevin Bacon.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Yes. See, huge catalog. Those feel very different.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: Harrison Ford and Footloose would never work.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: So they're different ages. Also age-wise.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: I know, but that makes it.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Let's just say.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: Because they both had long careers, though.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: I was thinking Costner. Harrison Ford and Kevin Costner. Don't.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: Stop.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: Stop right there.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 9: Don't ruin.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Don't.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the point.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: I can't unthink of Harrison Ford in Waterworld.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: Think of Harrison Ford in Dances with Wolves.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: Well, I do like that movie.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know why. But see, think how much more
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: entertaining you would find Waterworld with Harrison Ford in it.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: I'd hate it still.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: I think you'd like it. I think there's some fun
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: stuff going on in Waterworld. Maybe from the wrong side,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking that.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: Who'd you swap for Dennis Hopper?
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Nobody, because he's perfect. That's the reason I would watch
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: that movie now.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: You put Chevy Chase in there.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Dennis Hopper is... That's that era of, again, a weird
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: trajectory of dropping off the.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: Face and then coming back and taking the craziest role.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: And having no problem being insane. I know. Dennis Hopper
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: and Jack Nicholson.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: Well, that's easy.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Because eventually they ended up kind of... They started out together.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: They started out together, yeah.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: But then they ended up kind of... Like, Hopper played
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: way crazier, but... The shining aside. Right. But... Hmm.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, I could totally see Dennis Hopper doing the shining.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: But could you see Jack Nicholson as Frank Booth?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I could see them trying. I don't
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: think he would do it. I love that performance. It's amazing.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody could... So that's one of my.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: Favorite movies, and let me tell you the story about that.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 5: I was a very, very young girl.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: So young.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: Very young. I was an embryo. And my friend's mom
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: thought she was writing a different movie and brought it home.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: Because they went to the video store, not to date myself.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: What's a video store, Grandma?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: And came home and put it on, and I was like,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: what is this? This is the best movie I've ever seen.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: Because my favorite line was, I think I found an ear.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: I think it's human. That's an ear, all right. I
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: love Blue Velvet. Isabella Rossellini.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: Genius.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: Who are we swapping her out with? You can't.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 7: Nobody.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: Sharon Stone. That's not the game.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: Sharon Stone and Blue Velvet.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 9: No.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: Alright. Let's do one more swap.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: Oh man, this is fun. Oh my god, wait a minute.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: We have another funny thing written about. Can I read it?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: So here's what the list... George C. Scott and Peter Sellers.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: I can't even go there.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: We came up with that one. We can readdress that
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: down the line.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: Clint Howard, Jackie Earl Haley, and Haley Jo Osment.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: I remember this discussion.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 6: Wait a minute.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: And then let me read the other thing on my list.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: I have a picture that I drew of our cat
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: with a crescent moon and it says, I'm Cooper. And
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: then it says Clint Eastwood. So you tell me what
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: that means.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: So you're swapping out Clint Eastwood and your cat.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: And my cat.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: But my cat is named Cooper.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: I'd be willing to watch that.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: Because my cat looks like Bradley Cooper.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 6: I think Cooper would also wear his pants too high.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: And a good cat.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 6: As a 80 year old.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to cats.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: And talk to a chair or whatever.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, imagine our cat in Pale Rider. I mean,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: I can totally see it.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: You know what's interesting, though? I could imagine, and this
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: is totally off topic.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: It's not off topic.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: It's totally on topic, but it's not one that we've
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: kicked around before. But Clint Eastwood and Ryan Gosling. That
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: just occurred to me that that is not a, that
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: is a completely, like, huge age range. But I could see.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: You're saying Ryan Gosling's the new Clint Eastwood.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, kind of.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: Think about him in Drive and.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: I thought he was the new Harrison Ford. No. He
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: took over Blade Runner. He did, but he was better.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: Gosling is a better actor, actually, than Harrison Ford.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't love Gosling.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: I like a lot of him.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't dislike him, but I haven't found
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: anything that makes me put him on a pedestal at
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: this point. I'm like, he's good in this, he's okay
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: in that, but I haven't seen anything that's blown me away.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: Clint Eastwood is kind of.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Clint Eastwood has such a specific... persona that like he
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: brought from day one like from you know from westerns
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: when nobody knew who he was to like early tv
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: roles he was already playing that guy like he had
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: that guy down before people knew that that guy was
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: a thing you know.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: I guess I'm I'm thinking of Ryan Gosling and Drive
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: is like one of those old spaghetti western Clint Eastwood.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: Roles because he doesn't speak well yeah I mean.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: He's all action you know He's the man of few
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: words and a.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Lot of action.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: Which, before we get off topic, I wanted to ask you.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: We're always off topic.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: Because it kind of goes towards like weird spaghetti western stuff.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: But did you see the Jodorowsky's Dune documentary?
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: I know of it.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's really good. Yeah, we'll have to talk about that.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: Who are you swapping out with Jodorowsky? Himself.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: Because that's what he did. It was pretty good. What
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: do you think?
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: I was just thinking about Clint Howard and Jackie Earl Haley.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: See, that's the one. As you threw out Clint Howard,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: we came up with, because I was like, if anybody
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: is sort of along those lines, yeah, that's a Jackie
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Earl Haley. Both played very strange, weird roles. Both came
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: up as kid actors.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: And that's why I threw in the Haley Jo Osment,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: because I didn't really know anything that that second guy
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: was in.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: He's not as creepy. He just grew up to be.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Normal-ish. Now he's just kind of a normal, like, dorky
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: old guy. He never got weird like both of the
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: other two kind of got weird.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: He's in the vampire show.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 6: Oh, What We Do in the Shadows.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was actually really funny in that.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was kind of weird.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, his character's kind of.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: A twerp.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 8: Mm-hmm.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 6: Boy, he's not really a twerp. He's too old to
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 6: be a twerp.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: He's kind of twerpy.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: He's a douche.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 5: He's an adult twerp. He's a douche. Is that what
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: an adult twerp is?
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: You graduate up the douche.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 6: That's what you become. If you maintain your twerpiness.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: Your twerpitude. Your twerpitude. Yeah. But yes, I could see maybe.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: I could maybe see.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: uh clint howard as uh rorschach and in the watchman
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 6: that's a weird because you don't see his face really
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 6: yeah that's a weird move but i don't know can
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: you see jackie earl haley as.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: The ice cream man yes yes i can You could
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: also see.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 6: Why did you throw this out there?
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: You came up with Clint Howard. You could also see
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Clint Howard in.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 6: I hate.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: Because he's like the Randy Quaid, Dennis Quaid scenario.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: His brother.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 6: What was that?
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Because Richie's such a looker.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: What was the name of that?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: What if Clint Howard played Richie?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: What are you asking?
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: What if Clint Howard played Ron Howard's Richie.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: From Happy Days?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: Oh, you'd have a completely different show.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: What a weird show that would be.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: Breaking Away, that's what I was trying to think of. Yeah,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: what if Clint Howard was in Breaking Away as the
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 6: scrawny little kid?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: With Harrison Ford in the Kevin Bacon role?
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 6: Kevin Bacon isn't in that.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: But Dennis Quaid is in there. Oh, never mind. Yes.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking of Silver, the Viking one.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: Oh, yes.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Quicksilver. Quicksilver. I was like, wait a minute. Which they remade.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: Where were you at?
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: When did they remake that?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: Several years ago.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: Who was that?
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: Joseph Gordon-Levitt.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: Oh, that makes sense.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: So, can you swap out Joseph Gordon-Levitt.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 6: In every Kevin Bacon role?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, actually you can.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 6: He does do a good, like, every man.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Truthfully, I like Kevin Bacon, but I feel like Joseph
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: Gordon-Levitt's got a little more chops.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: I like Kevin Bacon.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: I like Kevin Bacon. I think he's turned in some
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: great performances.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: He has done amazing.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: But Joseph Gordon-Levitt is almost next level. He's turned out
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: to be a hell of an actor.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: Picture him in Footloose.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: Totally.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 6: I can totally see it.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: But can you see a young Kevin Bacon in Third
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: Rock from the South?
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 6: Yes i mean i could kind of like like uh
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: imagine the animal house version of him with longer hair
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 6: uh well kevin bacon was in the original friday the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: 13th yeah i can totally.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: See yeah see that's one of those can i can't
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: can anybody really he's so perfectly thrown into tremors that
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: i don't know it Yes, but his character is such.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 6: A one-dimensional character, and so is Fred Ward's character. It's
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 6: so perfect in that movie. They're cartoonish. And so is
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 6: the movie, which is perfect.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Which is why it kind of works as well.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think you could probably throw anybody in there.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 10: Gosh.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: Fred Ward.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: He's been in a lot of stuff that you forget.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's one of those guys that's been around forever.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: He only was a lead actor in a handful.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: I'm glad you remembered his name because I would have
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 6: forgotten it.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: I think that's specifically why. I know other things he's in,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: but I think the reason I knew who he was
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: was because he was in Tremors.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 6: Tremors and Remo Williams.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: See, I always forget that one. Yeah. I'm pretty sure
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: he's in The Player.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: See, I've never seen that one.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: It's ensemble, so by that time it was already like,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: who can we get and put in here? And Fred
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: Ward had kind of graduated up to that point. Oh, my.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: All right. I think.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: We're going to have to round out this one.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: But we've at least worked out a version of this
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: so that I think maybe we can return to it.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: That would be good. You start thinking about what you
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: want to address when we come back for the next
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: one of these.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: We will swap actors of the same first name.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: But they have to be similar caliber. Like number of
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: performances or leading person?
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: See, I was thinking maybe we start randomly swapping out
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: character actors when they already have like an interchangeable role
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: in so many movies and then you just start switching
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: those people.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: Like who would you say?
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: That's what we'll have to come back to next time around.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Fair enough. Everybody a character actor? Really? No. No? No.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: Harrison Ford is not a character actor.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: He became one. He became the guy that plays a
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: guy that is like Harrison Ford role. I am the
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: president of the United States of America.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: I got a bad feeling about this. Those should go together.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: What if we just start swapping out Harrison Ford in
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: other Harrison Ford movies? As a different version of Harrison Ford,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: but not really that different.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: If you had Indiana Jones A Witness... And the witness
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: guy in the President of the United States of America.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Get off my plane. Get off my plane. Have an
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: ice cream.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 6: Air Force One.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 6: Or Patriot Games.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: It's all the same thing. That's what I'm saying. Those
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  Speaker 5: guys all have just become like that.
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  Speaker 6: He is not a character actor. Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 1: He is far from a character actor. Nor is Bruce Willis.
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  Speaker 1: Nor is.
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  Speaker 6: John Travolta or Nick Cage.
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  Speaker 5: So what if they are? What part would they play?
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  Speaker 5: Would you say Walton Goggins is a character actor?
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  Speaker 1: He used to be.
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  Speaker 5: But he's not anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's graduated. He's still not. Don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I love his TV show. I would have never imagined
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  Speaker 1: him having his fun TV show. I know because he.
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  Speaker 5: Was the character actor.
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  Speaker 1: Also because he's so heavy. Everything he'd ever done was
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  Speaker 1: just like, Like, I want to go hose off now
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  Speaker 1: after watching your performance. But, like, to see him in
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  Speaker 1: a sitcom is really weird. It was weird.
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  Speaker 6: And then it took me a while to get used
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  Speaker 6: to it.
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  Speaker 4: But I did.
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  Speaker 6: I really like it, though. I don't like his character, though.
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  Speaker 4: I do.
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  Speaker 9: I like.
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  Speaker 5: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I think both of the daughters are amazing.
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  Speaker 5: They're great.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know where they cast those two girls,
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  Speaker 1: but they are great. They're awesome. They're very good.
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  Speaker 6: But the other two... Actually, all of the other friends
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  Speaker 6: are more entertaining than Walton Goggins.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's written. It's in the normal fashion. Like,
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  Speaker 1: the show has to be built around the most boring,
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  Speaker 1: generic person.
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  Speaker 6: That's true.
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  Speaker 1: And then all of your side characters have to be
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  Speaker 1: the interesting ones.
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  Speaker 6: Which is weird because, you know, I just love Walton
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  Speaker 6: Goggins in Justified, and his character is just so... Crazy cool.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And he had the best hillbilly wardrobe I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 6: And best delivery accent-wise. And him in the unicorn, I'm like, ah,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 6: it's a fun show. But not him.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: But the friends of the daughter, yeah.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 6: What's the Roy Cordroy? Rob Cordrey?
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: Rob Cordrey, yeah.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 6: I can never pronounce his last name. Because it looks
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 6: like it's Corduroy? Like there's another R.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: In there that I'm missing.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: It might be Corduroy.
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  Speaker 5: That's a good show.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I like it way more than I expected.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: I thought it would be good because I like Wal Goggins.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: But that's just such a weird idea. I was not
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: prepared for that.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: I don't think so because I think his wife, his
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: first wife, committed suicide.
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  Speaker 1: I believe.
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  Speaker 5: To me, that wasn't a hard stretch to imagine.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 6: Him While I was going to say, Rob Cordroy.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Cordroy? Cordroy. Cordry?
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 6: That's actually one of the best roles I've seen him in.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: Except he reminds me of a friend of ours.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: That aside, I think that it's... He actually has character.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: Where before he's usually just like a joke, I'm assuming.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: Because I know of him, but I... I can't even
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: think of most things that he's in.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 5: Like everybody else in that is phenomenal.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: That is a good show. We kind of binged that
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: and enjoyed.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: I was watching it all last season.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: I didn't, well, I don't think we can get it
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: on our regular television because we have like Sling and
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: Hulu and Netflix and blah, blah, blah, but we can't
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: get real television.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: We just supposed to turn on the TV.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: We can't get it. Look, we got that crazy, like
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: the guy on the boat. I've got a TV on
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 5: my boat. You know that commercial?
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: No. Why are you listening to this guy with a
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: TV on his boat?
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know. We saw a commercial and we were like,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 5: maybe that'll work for us to get regular TV.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: I just went and got an antenna and plugged it in.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: Well, that's what that is, but it doesn't work.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: Obviously not, because I don't have a boat, so.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: We don't get anything. I don't even get, like, boring
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: local news, which I love.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: Well, with all that, I think we've said a lot
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: this week.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: And accomplish nothing. So, we'll be back to continue this
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: process down the line. Until then, write in. Let us
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: know who you want us to swap out.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 5: Who's your face off? Who would you face off?
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: Email us. There's email links on the internet. So, yeah.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: Go let us know who we need to swap out.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: Or you can tell them to send it to.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: Are you going to get a post office box or something?
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what was the address?
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: Are you going back in time?
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 5: I had one for years and.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Nobody sent anything. That's why I quit wasting my time.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 5: No, but they always went to somewhere in Colorado. It
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: was always like, Eagle, Nebraska, Colorado.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: Pueblo, Colorado.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: What is it? Pueblo. Send it to Pueblo, Colorado.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: Sorry. Okay. I'll shut up. I doubt it. Otherwise, that
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: about does it. We'll return next time. Same geek feed.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 5: Bye.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: Switch, switch.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 5: Sure of it.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Crazy intuition You're off and on You're here then gone Coming.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 5: A curious condition And then you switch right over It's weird, yeah,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 5: I know But.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: Just can't get a hold.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 5: Of myself Hey, hey, change You.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 10: Switched in front of me Hey, hey, change And switch back.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: To my words.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: It's weird.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 10: So strange, you switched in front of me. You changed,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 10: not like you used to be. Could you get in
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 10: my head and hold my heart? What I'm here to do,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 10: we're worlds apart.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: To reverse your words into the stars.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 10: And switch back to my world. So gorgeous, talking like
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 10: a machine. I'm stuck on everyone in my team. Could
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 10: you get in my head and hold I got a plan,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 10: a plan for me, I'm gonna arrange it. You switched
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 10: in front of me You changed Not like you used
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 10: to be Put a hit in my head and hold
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 10: my heart.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: What I needed there were worlds apart.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 10: To reverse your words into this stuff And switch back
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 10: to my way Gorgeous.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: Can you get in my head.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: And hold my heart?
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: When I'm here, you're there, we're worlds apart So reverse.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 10: Your words, go to the start And switch back to
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 10: my world Open your heart, yeah, we're back to the
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 10: start Open your heart, yeah, get back to the start
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 10: Open your heart, yeah, we're back to the start Open
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 10: your heart, yeah, get back to the.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: Start Open your heart, yeah, we're back.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: To the start.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 5: Open your heart, yeah, get back to the start.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Albuquerque, New Mexico. Cucamonga.
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  Speaker 5: P.O. Box 111.
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  Speaker 1: Get yours in now. Allow six to eight weeks for shipping.
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  Speaker 5: Or return the Mail.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: I got nothing. No CODs.
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