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Chase Elliott Wins NASCAR's Clash | Kenny Wallace Show · Kenny Wallace Media

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There it is. Chase Elliott is your winner.
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Everybody. Charlie, bring it home.
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There we go Chase Elliott in that white Napa 9 car, which is
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kind of sharp at at the beginning of that race, you had
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all the you had the white cars you had, you had Chase Elliott,
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you had Denny Hamlin and that Tyler Reddick unbannable Nike
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car which had a cool paint scheme.
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But yeah, the 2025 Clash winner is Chase Elliott, the the fan
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favorite, the seven time most popular driver wins.
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It looks like the the fans of the Madhouse are very happy
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about that term. Well, and this is a big what we
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call a Southern when you, you know, you're an Ohio guy.
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We're Midwest people. So the sirens going to go off in
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Dawsonville, GA. You know, this is in Winston
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Salem, NC is where this is. This is Winston Salem.
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This is a football field. And years ago, they put a
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racetrack around it. Now listen, Charlie, this has
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been done years ago, you know, Soldiers field where dumb bears
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play. They raced there, but the cars
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were smaller, they were lesser and it worked.
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Now the cars are bigger, faster, more power.
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But look, they're getting it done and and this is a big win.
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Let's see, Charlie, not too bad, 9/14 in St.
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Louis, MO. I think this was another win.
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It's only 1014 here in on the East, East Coast.
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You know, it's 1014. You go to the movie theaters,
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you watch a 715 movie, you know, this is about what time you're
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going to get out seven 15815. You know, you're going to get
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out at 8:45. But still, I think NASCAR, you
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know, and look, it's 10:15. You know, while look at this
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burnout, the Chase Elliott's doing beautiful burnout
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sideways, literally through the corner, still sideways through
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the grass. Yeah, I I I think that's the
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home. I don't see anything wrong.
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And I'm trying to. I'm trying right now.
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What? What is wrong?
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There's nothing wrong. It's on.
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It's on primetime Fox. They're promoting the Super
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Bowl. It's a hell of a race.
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We had a lot of spin outs. We had some good wrecks.
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Nobody got hurt. No tow trucks.
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That was big. The crowd stays afterward.
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Here, Charlie. Here we go.
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I got my volume down there he is Chase sell it.
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He's very happy well earned. They they come and took care of
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business. Charlie, they set QuickTime.
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So he earns it by QuickTime wins his heat race starts on the
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pole, gives it up. Now here's what I say that 100
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lap halftime break. I think I think that helps Chase
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because they might have made a chassis change.
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Hamlin OK, so give us the finish there.
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C1 more time. So you got the unofficial
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results here. Chase Elliott wins.
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Ryan Blaney, who again started last, started 23rd.
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He finishes second. This is unofficial, but Denny
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Hamlin third, Joey Logano 4th, Bubba Wallace 5th, Ross Chastain
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6th, Austin Sindrick 7th, Tyler Reddick 8th.
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How about Shane van Gisbergen 9th and Chris Buscher 10th.
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And then your 11th spot is Ryan Priest and he was kind of the
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show last night. Herm with with spinning out John
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Hunter Nemechek to to advance. How about the fact that we
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didn't see a ton of that? We saw that last night and then
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I guess what you saw host of our you saw host of our in this race
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tonight, but you didn't really see a ton of wrecks.
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Well. Here, here's what I want to say,
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Charlie. Number one, I'm surprised that
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Chase Elliott is the only stand out at Hendrick.
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OK, so Chase Elliott stands out. Kyle Larson was way better but
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made the race, won the last chance qualifier.
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But my point is this. Chase Elliott is the only driver
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from the Hendrick stable to, you know, really get up there,
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right? So Kyle Larson doesn't get
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through the field. He makes his way up there, gets
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the 14th and then gets spun out. William Byron doesn't run very
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well either. So I do want to talk about
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Priests. That is a new team at, you know,
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Roush Fenway. So Ryan Priests in the 16th,
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good run. The other new driver, Chase
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Briscoe, took over for Martin Trucks.
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He showed up good until he got wrecked out.
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But I see I see Penske showed up because Cyndrick run good.
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So I'm thinking right now, you know, I'm kind of going to I'm
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going to give as far as the team win.
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Looks like the team wins going to go to Penske because you
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know, they showed up up there in the top ten.
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But yeah, whatever they had underneath that Hendrick car of
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Chase Elliott, I don't know if the message got relayed, relayed
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to William Byron and maybe it got relayed to Kyle Larson.
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But you know, Kyle just couldn't get through the field.
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And as we watched the race, Blaney cleanly got by Kyle
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Larson starting last. And that's another thing
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Charlie, is the tracks too small.
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It can't be too small because the guy that started last
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finished second and there's not a mark on his car as we're
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looking right now. Just donut marks, very little
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donut marks. The 9 don't look like there's a
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hell the 9 did more damage. It's now spinning through the
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grass. Not a mark on the 9, not a mark
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on the 9, not a mark on the 2nd place car.
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So once again, Charlie, we cover all the bases again.
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So respond right here everybody, but still don't see nothing
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wrong. Don't see anything wrong.
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We're trying. Do you think, do you think with
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Kyle Larson? So he's in the Last Chance
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qualifier and he wins it, but his car was pretty banged up.
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I mean, it was all taped up. You you think that played a part
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in in the fact that he already ran 75 laps and they were trying
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to just get that thing to the end?
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Yeah, definitely did not help. And I think that was an
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advantage because, you know, Blaney gets in on points right
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now as you listen to the broadcast.
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Blaney had problems yesterday, didn't handle good and the car
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was smoking. Jamie Little reported that this
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morning, the Penske team, you know, took Blaney's car, parked,
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found a hole and I believe the oil cooler changed all the oil
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cooler, you know, did all that. But one thing Blaney did, he
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didn't let his pride get in the way.
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He ran 5 laps in the Last Chance qualifier.
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That last chance qualifier was 75 laps.
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So basically Blaney goes out there, knows he's got the
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provisional. This isn't the Last Chance
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qualifier. Runs five laps, gets a little
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heat in the brakes, pulls off. So yes, his car was fresh.
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That's where Kyle Larson had to basically destroy his car, you
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know? Yeah, two cars move on.
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Charlie. You had Josh Berry, which was a
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a good feel because this is the home pretty much of the woods.
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You know, they're in western Virginia and, you know, so
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that's right. close. But when Josh Berry and Kyle
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Larson roll off the track from the last chance qualifier, it
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already looked like their car had been to demolition Derby.
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And by the way, I am, I am tired, Charlie and I do got
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coffee in here. It it doesn't hurt that we our
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new sponsor Sunoco, I put that decal on there.
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I think this yesterday morning. But yeah, yeah, looks good.
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I'll, I'll let you take a drink there.
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What, what have you thought so far?
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I, I watched a bunch of the press conferences from the media
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availabilities yesterday and no, no, big shocker.
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Denny Hamlin's always providing content.
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So the two big storylines that I, that I saw, and these were
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being talked about as well was so Bob Parker's asks him about
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the fact that his hauler doesn't have a lot of sponsors on it.
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And, and Denny Hamlin talked about how tough it is these days
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to get a sponsor. And then the other part was and,
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and we put this on our, our YouTube and on, on X Denny is
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not a fan of the the world class driver exemption.
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And he said it reeks of desperation.
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That was his quote. Yeah, I, I have a strong opinion
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on both things #1 we try very hard to lay off a politics.
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But when we went to high school, they taught us current affairs.
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The current affair in America is we have high inflation.
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You know, people are doing the best they can.
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There's not extra money out there.
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So and and until companies feel strong, you know, all these
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teams right now are living off their wealthy car owners.
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Let me be very clear. You know, Michael Jordan is
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making forty $44 million a year off tennis shoes.
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You know, any struggling that having to do now, I'm just that
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that's not what Denny's team, but I'm saying over here with
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the 23 team. I see we got some questions
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coming up. Let me finish this right.
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Here. No.
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Yeah, go. Ahead, when you look at somebody
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like the 2311 team, they got some big money from their car
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owner to field this deal, OK? You know, Michael Jordan, you
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know, personally is knocking down 4040 million, $44 million a
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year himself lives on a yacht, got it going on.
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OK. Now, when you go to Joe Gibbs,
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now I'm going to answer your question.
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Let me go back just a little bit.
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A lot of these teams that are struggling for sponsorships,
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their car owners are some of the wealthiest people in the world
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and in America. Rodger Penske, wealthiest man
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and one of the wealthy is men, you know.
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So, but when you get to Joe Gibbs, you know, I don't know if
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Joe's got a partner and you know, but that's not for Denny
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Hamlin to worry about. As you can tell tonight, Denny
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Hamlin showed up. One thing that and I want I want
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to stop comment. NASCAR's really making things
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right. This this this trophy that's
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being awarded the night is the Bobby Allison Memorial Trophy.
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Bobby Allison passed away a hero of the Wallace family.
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Bobby Allison helped us get to where we're at, but NASCAR
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neglected Bobby Allison for years and Mike Helton and Jim
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France said, look, we got to make this right.
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We got to give Bobby Allison his 85th win and that win was at
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Bowman Gray. So how right NASCAR even gets
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the trophy right? It's the Bobby Allison Memorial
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Trophy and they and they awarded Bobby his 85th win.
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And and that's a whole nother story.
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And we talked about it on the Kenny Wall show.
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But I want to say that. So let's get back to the
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question. Denny is struggling for
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sponsorship right now, not because of Denny.
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Everybody's struggling for sponsorship.
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I mean, you're you're getting teams with eight and 10 sponsors
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a year. I mean, I don't know how.
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I mean, the money for the fire suits for the, you know, if, if
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these teams are going to put new fire suits on these crew members
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every 10 races, these, these fire suits are 1500 three, $1000
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a pop, you know, times, I mean, you're looking at 30 grand in
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fire suits per race. So you know, OK, now you're just
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going to struggle on sponsorship right now because our inflation
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is so big, sponsors are looking at where they're going to spend
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their money and they want to deal.
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Denny, Denny Hamlin, you know the Joe Gibbs team, they're
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they're looking at 20 million a year.
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Some of these lesser teams are like, you know, our driver, he
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only makes, you know, some of these drivers are making 250,000
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a year. What?
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Denny's a $6 million a year guy. So you see what I'm saying?
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Spire Motorsports, they, they can use a lot less money because
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their driver don't ask for no money.
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You see what I'm saying? So why does it take the top
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teams so much money to operate because they got world class
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drivers as much crap as we want or, or you all want to talk
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about Danny Hamlin. He's a difference maker.
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He did all that talking and then he went out there and LED the
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race and finished third. You know, he he he's he's a
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gamer. So he he, he deserves that big
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money. Now, as far as the other
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question you asked me, Denny said that it is a gimmick, and
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he didn't say this, but it is a gimmick for NASCAR to allow
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Helio Elio. Elio.
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That's the way I was taught to say it.
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Elio, you're saying, and I say and I see Denny Hamlin says it
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is a gimmick NASCAR's doing to bring these world class drivers.
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Elio Castroneves automatically locked in.
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Now, I agree with him. It is a gimmick.
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That's it. And and it's got to be done
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because NASCAR it's got to light a Wick.
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They got to light a bottle Locket.
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They got to do something. And I've always said we don't
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have any superstar NASCAR drivers.
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Now Chase Elliott can keep this up.
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I mean, that that's the only thing that's going to turn
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NASCAR around. How many times has he won the
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most popular driver? Seven.
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Yeah. So see, he's a favorite.
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And. And fans are fickle.
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They're strange. If their driver wins, they love
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NASCAR. If their driver don't win, they
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hate NASCAR. It's just that silly.
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So if we can keep Chase up there, that big fan base is
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going to love NASCAR. You know, I mean, that's just
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the way it is. It's a joke with me and you.
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My driver didn't win. I hate NASCAR so I agree, but
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but listen, people got memory like an elephant and I said on
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the Kenny Wallace show what NASCAR is doing for this.
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You know you're automatically in if you're a world class driver.
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I don't, I don't I got no problems with it because I don't
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think it's a big deal. It's in.
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It's not like a world class drivers going to be running
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every event and even Danny said that, but but once again, Bob
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Pockras pokes the pokes the bull, right?
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You, you mess with the bull, you get the horn.
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So Bob messes with the bull, Danny gives him the horn.
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Don't ask a question if you don't like the answer.
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So I agree with Danny, but I my opinion is still the same.
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It's fine with me. It don't matter.
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It's fine with me. It don't matter because it's not
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like a world class driver is going to show up at every race.
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So yeah. Yeah, I was.
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I remember you and Schrader talked about this several weeks
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ago and, and and he said, look, it's the Daytona 500.
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That's not really the race that you need this for.
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And I I agree with him. It doesn't bother me at all, by
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the way, that Elio is in the Daytona 500.
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But I feel like if you have other races maybe where you
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don't have as much attention and promotion and we're talking non
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playoff races, maybe when you get through kind of like the the
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dog days of summer, that's where I feel like having a Max
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Verstappen or somebody like that can kind of bring some more
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attention. But you don't need any extra
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attention for the Daytona 500. No, I agree with that.
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Getting back to Denny saying it, it's desperation.
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Well, call it what you want, OK, But even if you say it's
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desperation, then OK, even if NASCAR said, look, we're a
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little desperate right now, don't make them look bad.
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You could call it a market. It's it's Charlie, it's
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publicity. It's marketing.
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It's publicity. It's marketing.
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You can call it anything you want.
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You can call it a gimmick. You, you know, usually those are
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just attack names. It's a gimmick.
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It's desperation. Oh, what?
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Oh, you hurt me. You know, NASCAR's not sitting
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there. Let's see Chris Blair.
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See what's Chris saying? Oh, Chris is funny.
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Chris has been Chris Blair is the he's in charge of the
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Worldwide Technology Raceway. Well, you know, they're, they're
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trying to do other things over there.
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You know, they got the road course, they got the drag strip.
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They're getting ready to, they're getting ready to have
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some wrestling over at the Worldwide Technology.
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So this is Chris Blair. Oh, nice.
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He, he went somewhere to promote wrestling at Worldwide
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Technology Raceway and they hit him in the face with a pie.
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So that's Chris Blair, who is the general manager at the
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Worldwide Technology and they just were awarded since Saint
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Louis is doing so good. That race, as we know, Charlie,
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is in September and it is a playoff race.
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So shout out to Chris Blair. Let me put it on.
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Let me see, Chris, period. We're live on YouTube and I just
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showed everybody this picture. As you say, promoters do what
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they got to do. Yep.
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Yeah, You know, you mentioned, you mentioned worldwide
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technology in Saint Louis having the the race in the playoffs.
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So no longer in early June, now it's in September.
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And there's a lot of people in the comments here that really
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liked the clash and I don't maybe it's because we're in it
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right now, but I don't know. I, I feel like a good positivity
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about the NASCAR season and maybe that's because what, it's
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year 4 of the Next Gen. car. I feel like they're figuring
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that out a little more each and every year.
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I mean, do you feel that? I know we have this lawsuit
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hanging over, but I feel like that was more of an offseason
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story. I don't, I don't know how many
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developments we're going to get during the year.
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I don't know. I, I can see a lot of positivity
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for this 2025 season. What do you think?
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Charlie and I'm not really most of the fans watching us right
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now. I want to thank you all so much.
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But right now, some of the the complaints by some of the fans
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is what we call white noise. These are, this is the, you're a
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remember, you're young. But there used to be this funny
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show to come out. There's 2 old men.
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They were Muppets and it yeah, the two old men, they just
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grouchy all the time, no matter what.
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And you know, it's kind of like Grinch, right?
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Grinch is never going to be happy.
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Well, the we got those people in our fan base.
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They love NASCAR, but they're sport.
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They love to talk crap. And they're they're like,
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they're like the muffin. They're like the two old men.
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So these people are starting to be drowned out a little bit.
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We saw it at the end of the year where there was this group that
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said, I don't like the playoff system, you know, And then when
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you broke it down, you like hold on.
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And now you see all the drivers coming out.
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I don't know if you saw it, but all the drivers coming out In
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Joey Logano's defense, you know what, he won three.
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He won like, you know, Joey Logano won four races last year.
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He he peaked in the playoffs. He he showed up in the playoffs,
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you know, this argument that well, but he didn't run good
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early in the years. Like what do you want me to do?
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You know, I mean, so some of these arguments, it's just like
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every year, some of the fans want everything changed and it's
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becoming white noise. What white noise is, is like,
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look, it don't matter. It don't matter.
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You just, you just still complaining.
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And there's and, and everybody's like God and, and, and people
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start knowing people too, because social media is, is the
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new place now. So you start going, oh, that's
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that guy. That guy's always bitching and
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moaning, you know what I mean? It's like, oh, that's that guy.
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He's, he always complaints. And I think that's what's
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happening is for the most part, it's, it's getting to be, that's
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the guy that always complaints. And then he'll light a fire,
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then he'll get his buddies to complain.
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But, but yeah, I listen. And let's face it, we, we've
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already admitted it. NASCAR is never ever going to be
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back to its glory days. So that's not even an argument.
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We all admitted that you're never, ever, well, we, we can't
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fit that many people because they took all the grandstands
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down, Charlie. So it's like, you know, all they
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fit, you know, the Daytona 501 year had 200,000 people, 250,000
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people. What, you're not going to put
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that many people in there anymore because they, they took
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out all the grandstands. It maxes out at 100.
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So they took out all the grandstands, realizing that the
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sport it, it was, it was a rare time in life and we'll never see
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it again. It was like, whoa, you know it,
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it was really big, you know it, and, and now it's not that big
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anymore. This is where it's going to be,
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but it's still a viable sport. And that's why you see NBC, Fox,
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That's why you see them spending billions.
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You know, if the sport is so bad, Charlie, you got to ask
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yourself why, why is Fox, why is NBC, Hulu, all these, why are
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they spending billions of dollars?
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It's because they see the analytics.
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They see that there's still 4 million people watching a race.
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I guarantee you this one here. Well, we have the Grammys on
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tonight, so that kind of diluted it.
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But you're I can tell you I left the Volusia Speedway, the dirt
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track, every single dirt racer was they was outside their
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motorhomes. It was good feel too.
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You know, the woods were in the background.
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You saw Denny Hamlin standing on the grass.
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It had that. It had that good short track
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feel. All the short trackers were
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happy, you know, all the local races.
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Oh look, it looks local. Looks like a local track.
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So that probably pretty good ratings, but.
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Yeah, I also think I just think NASCAR and racing in general
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also does really well on social media because all the clips and
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even if people aren't going to watch the whole race or even
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half the race, just the the clips that are shared on social
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media, look at last night, priests spinning out, John
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Hunter, Nemechek. Anytime there's a fight, anytime
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there's a wreck, those get played millions and millions of
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times all across social media. Platforms Charlie, did you see
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what happened? And I'm I'm answering your
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question. We're talking did you see
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WrestleMania in Indianapolis last night?
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WrestleMania. Now I'm going to throw a
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disclaimer. Those wrestlers are the most
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fantastic athletes in the world. They are way better than me.
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I admire them. I look up to them, but it's
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fake. The it's fake.
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It's a show and they literally sold out a fake act.
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It's like, it's like going to see a movie.
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You know, movies aren't real when they're real.
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They call them documentaries. We we go and watch movies and
25:04
own. It's entertainment.
25:06
So people want to be entertained and people like to get on social
25:14
media and see what's up. So my point is, is that if
25:20
wrestling can go over here with a staged act and NASCAR is all
25:28
real, you got to start asking yourself, where are we at in
25:31
entertainment today? Where are we in entertainment
25:35
today? You know it.
25:38
And another thing that's going on right now, I hate the NFL.
25:44
They let the Chiefs win, then I hate the NBA.
25:49
They're trying to shorten, you know, the game.
25:53
I mean, everybody hates everything.
25:57
You see what I mean about white noise?
25:59
It's starting to wear. It's starting to wear now.
26:01
Everybody hates everything. It's like, you know what I mean?
26:06
It's one of those deals. It's like, oh, I get it.
26:08
Everybody hates everything and it's a comedy.
26:13
And then WrestleMania is over here with a staged act, sold
26:17
out, standing room only crowd on feet.
26:20
It's like it's funny. So we are in an entertainment
26:27
sport right now and, and I'm still answering your question
26:31
and I don't want to be political, but the first White
26:34
House press briefing she got out there the new lady and she says
26:40
we recognize that Joe Rogan played a part in Trump winning
26:46
the election. So here in the White House press
26:50
room for the first time in history, we got two seats and
26:55
there's 10,000 of you out there. And if, if you are equality, if
27:00
you're doing good. And so that tells you how strong
27:04
social media is right now. And, and social media is about
27:08
to entertain This AI stuff's taking over stuff, Charlie.
27:12
It's like these goofy stuff on Instagram right now.
27:16
But the bottom line is, is NASCAR is doing one hell of a
27:21
job with TikTok. You know, I know for a fact
27:25
TikTok, NASCAR's full effort is on TikTok because all them young
27:29
kids live on there. I can't do it.
27:32
You're doing it. I'm exhausted.
27:35
I'm watching full blown productions from me, from race.
27:40
OK, so the from the last chance qualifier there went to beat.
27:46
There was about an the last chance qualifier to the A Maine
27:50
was about an hour and a half and NASCAR already had full
27:53
production shorts. Yeah, their editing team was
27:59
already full production. So, you know, that's where we're
28:04
at. The game has changed, Charlie,
28:07
You know it, it's it's like coffee with Kenny.
28:11
They don't make fun of me no more, Charlie.
28:14
You know, they they don't make fun of me anymore because it's
28:18
all about social media. It's all about it.
28:21
You know, why is NASCAR going back to Bowman Gray?
28:24
We got to change it up because what you know what, what the NBA
28:30
used to do, it don't work anymore.
28:32
What hockey did, it don't work anymore.
28:35
We everybody's changing, everybody.
28:39
Yeah, and I, I like most of NASCAR's changes and I read all
28:42
the comments here on YouTube and it does seem like a lot of the
28:46
old school fans maybe don't love all of the changes and maybe
28:50
they're also an older demographic.
28:52
And that's fine. But, and you spoke to this, but
28:55
to get the younger people to pay attention, I do think what
29:00
NASCAR is doing with the playoff, with stage racing, even
29:03
if, even if some of the traditionalists don't love it
29:07
and switching up things with the Clash, the Chicago street race,
29:11
mixing up the, the tracks, Mexico.
29:14
I think all of those things help grab the younger fan and the
29:19
casual fan, which at the end of the day, NASCAR is trying to, to
29:22
get back. And you said they'll never get
29:24
back to whatever it was 2006, but they're trying to inch their
29:27
way closer to that. And I, I think the, the
29:30
advancements they're making are all targeting the casual fan.
29:34
And I like, I like them all. And I, I would call myself
29:38
before we started this YouTube channel, I would call myself a
29:40
casual NASCAR fan. Now I'm a die hard, but like
29:44
everything that they're doing, I feel like they're attracting the
29:47
casual sports fan in a better way than they did before.
29:52
Yeah, and, and I'm the one that are going to put my balls up
29:55
here right now on the table. And I know what I'm going to say
29:58
is controversial, but I'm going to call them all out.
30:01
The fans that are doing all the moaning and complaining are the
30:04
old people. They're just, they're sad.
30:06
Charlie. I go on the Kyle Petty charity
30:09
ride and they're wonderful people.
30:11
They all got money and, and they go, they, they still love
30:14
racing, but they look at me and I'll go, I don't like the sport
30:19
anymore. They're just, they're just
30:20
bitter. You know what I mean?
30:23
It's all the old people. And, and what it is, is they're
30:26
just sad that their drivers quit, you know, and, and, and
30:29
the young crowd did not attach themselves to NASCAR.
30:34
So you're right, Charlie, NASCAR knows that they've lost the old
30:38
crowd just and it's over. And, and, and listen, we've done
30:44
plenty of specials about this and I've watched those people
30:49
take my excerpts and put them all over Facebook.
30:54
The the old crowd is ass hurt. They're pissed.
30:58
Tony Stewart's gone, Rusty's gone.
31:01
I don't like NASCAR anymore. Those are the ones that do all
31:05
the complaining. They just, they're avid
31:08
complainers. And once again, you know, they
31:11
probably got two or three accounts on the exit and they
31:14
just love it. It's a sport they watch every
31:17
race, but they like to complain now, the young kids, the young
31:22
kids, you know, we've been watching something change in the
31:25
last five months, if you know what I mean.
31:29
And the the young kids are starting to change the world.
31:32
And I think if we can grab them, you know, and that's why it's
31:38
it's important for Chase Elliott.
31:40
Ryan Blaney. Listen, we have, we have not had
31:43
one driver stick yet. The most famous driver we got is
31:47
Denny Hamlin because he's the one brave enough to do a little
31:50
crap talk. Chase is just loved because of
31:56
his father. You know, he's a little bit of
31:59
got a little bit of Huckleberry Finn and they love that.
32:06
Kyle Larson. Yeah, but Kyle don't move.
32:10
Kyle is. Kyle's a legend, but Kyle
32:13
doesn't move the needle like this.
32:18
Chase Elliott does. Listen, I'm a lover and I'm
32:23
going to say something that's going to smack people right in
32:25
the face. If Kyle Larson was so damn
32:28
famous, he'd be winning the most popular driver every year.
32:33
Kyle Larson is loved by all the dirt racing people, and I love
32:38
Kyle Larson. But you see, tip, tip, I don't
32:43
fight losing battles. In other words, I'm like, no,
32:46
you know, I look here, I look here and just because this is my
32:50
guy, I don't go. I'm going to find this quote.
32:54
I'm not going to waste time find it, but I'm going to find it.
32:57
But the point is is yes, Kyle Larson is a superstar, but only
33:03
on a only on a different level. Kyle Larson moves the needle in
33:07
dirt racing. So how if Kyle Larson teams up
33:11
with flow, he's going to pack Eldora Kyle Larson going to beat
33:16
Eldora was going to be standing room only.
33:19
But once again, if Kyle was so famous, and I mean it's nice if
33:26
Kyle Larson was that famous, he would win the most popular
33:30
driver award in NASCAR. See what I'm saying?
33:34
Kyle Larson is all dirt racer. So that's why we need Kyle.
33:40
It's famous as Kyle is. He's he still won't move the
33:42
needle. We need those.
33:46
We need those drivers where they need a bodyguard.
33:51
Charlie, should we start answering some questions?
33:54
Sure. You know, it's funny too, You're
33:55
talking about just the the publicized drivers.
33:58
I always find it interesting of, of who NASCAR puts on the
34:01
graphics, right. So I was watching the Last
34:03
Chance qualifier and they had that Daytona 500 preview and
34:07
there was 5 drivers kind of in a pyramid and Joey Logano was at
34:11
the top 'cause he's the defending champ.
34:13
But you see, hey, like him or not, you see Bubba Wallace on a
34:16
lot of those promotions. Well, a lot of them.
34:19
And we know he's not one of the best drivers.
34:21
He's he's OK, he's whatever top ten, top 15, but they do clearly
34:26
market Bubba walls and and he does move the needle because a
34:30
lot of people don't like him. Some people like him, but he is
34:33
a lightning rod for the sport. OK, I'm, I'm going to be very
34:36
controversial right now. I'm going to show you something
34:39
that affected me so much that I that I, I took a picture and I
34:44
put it in my phone. OK, Now here we go.
34:47
I want to I'm going to keep it up here for a little bit.
34:49
I want want to talk about this. Let me see, OK?
34:56
Haters are all failures. It's 100% across the board.
35:00
No one who is truly brilliant at anything is a hater from Joe
35:04
Rogan. I agree 100%.
35:06
So in other words, Rodger Penske, Rodger Penske does not
35:10
take time to talk, you know, in other words, people that are now
35:17
see Trump's a leader and and they they egg him on.
35:19
So he just answers their question.
35:22
But people that are, you know, people that own companies, they
35:26
don't hate, see what I mean, that you might get sound bites,
35:31
but you know, when, when you see people on social media that are
35:35
constantly talking crap, well, they're losers, they're
35:38
followers. They don't own businesses, you
35:41
see what I mean? But that is a very, you know,
35:46
that's very, that's a very big deal.
35:49
Haters are all failures. It's 100% across the board.
35:53
No one who is truly brilliant at anything is a hater.
35:58
Winters are always trying to figure out how to make things
36:02
better. They like, you know, like like
36:05
me. I'm awesome, right?
36:06
Because I what I just what I just said is look, yes, Kyle
36:13
Larson is the greatest driver in the world, but I got to go hold
36:17
on. He is the greatest driver in the
36:19
world. But this kid over here for some
36:22
reason moves the needle. You got to ask yourself why is
36:27
Chase Elliott keep winning the most?
36:29
It's not rigged people. It's that's the hater.
36:33
That's that hater thing I just put up.
36:36
It's not rigged. OK, That's that hater loser
36:39
mentality. You got to ask yourself why does
36:44
Chase Elliott keep winning the most popular driver every year?
36:49
It's simple. If Chase Elliott, no if if Dale
36:57
Junior was still racing, he would be the most popular
37:00
driver. He still is, probably.
37:03
Yes, they they they have Dale Junior souvenir trailer at the
37:08
NASCAR Cup races based on that late model stock that he ran at
37:12
Florence. The the fans that we have, they
37:20
are Dale Earnhardt senior fans and they are Bill Elliott fans
37:24
and they are sadly, Chase Ellie is our last big hope, you know
37:31
what I mean? So that's why I always on the
37:33
Kenny Walsh show, say we go, we don't have any superstars.
37:37
The only one we got is Denny Hamlin, because he pisses
37:40
everybody off so much that they come back.
37:43
They come back, oh, I'm going to answer you, you know, but he's
37:47
like an old Darryl Waltrip, you know, Denny runs that mouth, but
37:52
then he shows up and leads the race and runs third.
37:55
That's competition. You're not going to win them
37:58
all, you know, that's competition.
38:02
I. Feel like Kyle Busch, if Kyle
38:04
Busch was running up front, he can get back into that category
38:08
because obviously he likes to stir it up as well and he can
38:10
play the villain role. Even though that's switched a
38:12
little bit the last 2-3 years and some people are liking them,
38:15
but I feel like there's there's another guy that people always
38:18
say that whatever it is in, in football, you know, the sport is
38:22
better when Notre Dame's good, the sport is better when Florida
38:25
State's good. Whatever school you want to pick
38:26
kind of the blue bloods. I feel like NASCAR is always
38:29
better when Kyle Busch is is competing to win races, which he
38:33
hasn't really done in the last year or so.
38:36
Well, I'm going to go. I will go down this road with
38:40
you, but I'm going to go down in a competitive manner.
38:44
Kyle Busch wanted to keep making big money.
38:53
And Joe Gibbs says I can't pay it out, but I can pay it a
38:57
little less. And the little less is still
39:00
like millions. And you know, so Kyle Busch
39:09
believing in his talent, Kyle knowing he's one of the best
39:13
drivers, he says, I'll go over here to Richard Childress.
39:18
And if you remember right away, he won it at, at at Fontana.
39:21
And it's like, oh, damn. And and Kyle Busch is a game
39:27
changer. But now they come out with this
39:30
new next Gen. car and it's all based on this new next Gen.
39:34
cars, all based on engineers. So Kyle cannot make that up.
39:41
So as great as Kyle Busch is, in a weird way, he's with the wrong
39:48
team now. You see what I'm saying?
39:51
He's with the wrong team now. Now, I think I'm not going to
39:58
put words in Kyle's mouth, but I know for a fact, you know, that
40:04
that Kyle Busch is worth as much money as Denny Hamlin.
40:09
But you know, I know Joe Gibbs offered him as much as he could.
40:15
And it just didn't work out. So I think there, you know,
40:19
there again, Kyle Busch could be our superstar.
40:25
He could be joining Danny Hamlin right now with the very big
40:30
sound bites. But his car's not running fast
40:33
enough. And that's all because Kyle's
40:36
like, damn it, Joe, give me some.
40:38
Give me some money. And you know it.
40:42
It became a pissing match. So it it's sad that Kyle is not
40:47
on a good horse right now. If you noticed, Austin Dillon
40:52
didn't run good night. Neither did Kyle, but Austin
40:56
wasn't transfer spot in that last chance race.
41:01
And they started beating the hell out of each other, became
41:03
desperate and yeah, getting getting back to superstars, you
41:08
know, tonight couldn't have been any better.
41:11
We had our most famous driver win and that's big.
41:14
We've got listen, the head, the headline of the night is
41:19
NASCAR's off to its best start in 20 years.
41:28
NASCAR. I think I'll I should put that
41:30
on X right now. Let me see.
41:34
Now specifically, why do you think that?
41:36
Is it because of the clash and it was so successful or other
41:39
things as well? The reason I say that is because
41:43
when we had the Clash at Daytona, nobody was in the
41:46
grandstands and everybody hated NASCAR.
41:50
Then they went to the LA Coliseum and it was considered
41:55
not NASCAR country, you know what I mean?
42:00
They they drink wine and eat cheese out there.
42:03
They're not one of us. That's not country.
42:08
You ought to bring it to Bowman Gray.
42:12
Third time's a charm, Ben. This was all Ben Kennedy's
42:16
ideal. I saw Ben in the Daytona
42:18
airport. I landed here and and me and Ben
42:21
had a nice talk and he was leaving early.
42:24
But the reason I think this is NASCAR's best start in 30 years
42:29
is because Daytona faded because they just tracks too big and
42:37
then they'd wreck so much. They they didn't wreck tonight.
42:42
They just spun out. They just, they spun out and
42:45
kept going. They didn't tow nobody off
42:48
tonight. They did not tow anybody off the
42:52
track tonight. Now, there might have been a car
42:54
to pull off Chase Briscoe and probably broke something.
42:59
But you know, Daytona, you know, there's nobody in the
43:02
grandstands and they're reckon and it's like, Jesus, finish
43:06
this damn race. So they, the crowd got so bad
43:10
for the Clash at Daytona, they said, we're done.
43:13
You know, no different than them getting rid of Kentucky.
43:17
They got rid of Kentucky Speedway because it was done
43:20
then they clearly never overcame the debacle.
43:24
Charlie, you're young. But when they first went to
43:26
Kentucky, they opened up the racetrack a year too early and
43:30
they didn't have enough parking. The race was halfway over and
43:34
fans were still parking stuck on the highway.
43:37
Never got over it. So they literally had to get rid
43:42
of Kentucky. Never overcame that.
43:46
The the the Chicago track, they had to shut it down and
43:52
eventually the price of land one in California, they had to shut
43:57
Fontana down. Guess who's still living the
44:01
oldest track? Martinsville.
44:05
You know, Bowman Gray. So you see, you see the pattern
44:11
here. So it's like they just kept
44:14
trying. And that's the reason I say that
44:19
this is the best start for NASCAR in 30 years.
44:25
Now. Now we got a week off.
44:27
Let's get the Super Bowl over. We always say NASCAR season
44:31
starts. You know, we used to have the
44:36
Super Bowl, then the the shootout.
44:39
This was a great this, this is another reason there I am.
44:42
I'm talking to myself. This is another reason this is
44:45
one of the best starts. Let's run the All Star.
44:48
Let's run the clash now let we know nobody's bigger than the
44:52
NFL. We can hyperventilate starting
44:56
the night. It's all going to be about Super
44:59
Bowl now. Get the Super Bowl cleared out
45:02
because that's the biggest sport in America.
45:05
And now NASCAR starts. But this was a good date to
45:10
Charlie because there was there was nothing going on.
45:14
I mean, football's over. Boy, that that was really good.
45:19
What I just said, ain't it? You know what, you're right.
45:22
I've I've thought about that. I've always thought that
45:25
February is kind of the worst month of of the year for many
45:29
reasons, Winter kind of blah, but also for the sports
45:32
calendar, of course you have the Super Bowl.
45:36
But besides that, NASCAR can really steal the headlines with
45:39
the Daytona 500, with the Clash here.
45:42
I mean, until until March Madness hits, there's not a lot
45:46
going on in the month of February.
45:47
So NASCAR can really steal a lot of headlines.
45:50
And I think they did tonight, this weekend.
45:52
Again, everybody takes the week off of the Super Bowl.
45:55
Everybody in the world pays attention to the Super Bowl.
45:57
But then if you have a great Daytona 500, I mean, the
46:00
momentum just keeps building for NASCAR.
46:02
I, I agree with you. I'm very excited for this
46:05
season. NASCAR is off to its best start
46:09
in 20 years. I love it, I love it.
46:13
Bam, yeah, send it. I did.
46:18
I sent it 'cause I 'cause we just broke it down for all those
46:21
reasons. Well, now that now that we just
46:25
thought about it, Boyd, NASCAR, they did do a good job at
46:30
placing this race, didn't they? Because the playoffs, you know,
46:35
the Chiefs and the Eagles, that deal finished last week, this
46:39
week, crickets, nothing going on.
46:45
And look at that. They put this thing on prime
46:47
time. They showed a short track.
46:50
They showed Denny Hamlin and people watching on a grass hill.
46:54
They were interviewing drivers in the woods were right there
46:57
next to him. And and all all the people that
47:01
are local races are like, that's awesome, man.
47:04
They're standing on the grass and like our track, I love it.
47:10
It it just, you know, that's what I mean.
47:12
We it was a perfect storm here. So, yeah.
47:18
Did we have any people on here tonight?
47:21
Oh yeah, we got 567 watching live right now on YouTube up to
47:27
this minute and we've had so far 5300 people have been watching
47:35
for this whole live stream. And it's interesting too,
47:37
because we had about 500 the whole way through and even when
47:40
the when the race ended, it picked up a little bit.
47:43
But sometimes it's interesting to see is when people come over
47:47
after after the race ends. But also there wasn't really a
47:50
lot of controversy. It was a good race, but it
47:52
wasn't real spicy. So if there would have been
47:55
something crazy or a wreck, I think the numbers would have
47:57
skyrocketed. You remember when I told you
48:00
that there's people that make white noise, that they complain
48:03
all the time? I'm going to call this guy out
48:06
right now. Here, here's one of the guys.
48:12
See that? Yeah, if you I don't follow the
48:16
guy, but but he pops up all the time.
48:20
So just like you know that Andrew Kirkland he's in meeting
48:25
he says, you know, Noah Graxton, would you like to see this a
48:29
points race and and and and Noah's like heck yeah, and and
48:35
they're the guy is again, you know, being a smart ass.
48:39
Can we just enjoy a gimmicky pre season exhibition race, please?
48:45
What was gimmicky about it? They've been racing here since
48:49
1950. Why was it a gimmick?
48:52
They race here every week. They, they, they run Bowman Gray
48:58
every week. How can you consider that a
49:01
gimmick if you race somewhere every week?
49:04
How's that a gimmick? And like I just said, if you
49:08
really wanted to make this a points race, you could by making
49:12
the playoff points race basically 24.
49:17
You know, you run, there's 40 cars.
49:20
It's very easy to make this a points race.
49:22
It'd be a it'd be a three day show.
49:25
You know, you qualify on Friday, you bring in the modifieds.
49:32
You know, you don't bring in the Bush series, you keep the home
49:35
feel. You don't bring in the Xfinity.
49:37
You know, that's another thing that was good.
49:39
Did you see that crowd on Saturday morning for the mod
49:42
race? The Mod?
49:44
Yeah, so, so that's what I mean about the white noise.
49:47
I want to go back to that guy that there's a here I am just
49:50
giving you exact example. Just guy just talks crap, you
49:54
know. So you thank you, Jackie.
50:00
You you, you know, all you do is you come in on Friday, you
50:04
qualify 40 cars Saturday morning.
50:08
You run the mods, you bring in the local crowd, Burt Myers and
50:12
all them guys are happy. And then you run, you run 2
50:17
races with 20 cars in this race, 20 cars in that race, OK.
50:23
And you get 24 cars and you start 24 cars in the A main
50:30
right now, the guys that were the last ones out, they get 25th
50:34
place points is if you were race in real, you know, right.
50:41
See, Chris is right. A dude.
50:44
Yeah. Charlie, let's answer some of
50:46
these people. I know they're piling up, so
50:49
read that one. So Chris Laney says this is in
50:53
response to somebody calling it a gimmick.
50:55
He says a dude ran from the tail of the field all the way to 2nd
50:58
on 1/4 mile track. That was a good race, not a
51:01
gimmick. Talking about Ryan Blaney, who
51:03
started 23rd and finished second.
51:07
Yeah, and let me. I got Rusty's TV sitting here
51:11
saying dismiss and like, no, OK, Yeah.
51:15
So I mean, it, it it it's it's actually an insult to the 10,000
51:21
people that show up there every week.
51:23
This is Bowman Gray. They race here every week.
51:27
Doesn't even make sense to call this a gimmick.
51:30
Why, Why? Why keep racing at Daytona when
51:33
there's nobody in the grandstands?
51:34
Let's put 17. Hey, like I said, one of the
51:39
smallest crowds in NASCAR history, in modern history,
51:44
modern, only 17,000 people there.
51:48
But I guarantee you if they put stands in there, which they
51:51
should never do, don't make it bigger.
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Just keep it at 17,000 and make everybody watch it.
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That's what will make it grow because it's better to save sold
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out than to put, you know, the work.
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That's the worst thing they could do.
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Not, you know, if they want to put in some sweets, that'd be
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fine, you know, but I wouldn't, you know, 17,000 sold out and
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big viewership, you know. And don't you think it looks
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better on TVI would rather see a packed 17,000.
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Look at some of the big tracks and it looks worse if you have a
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big track and the grandstands are half empty.
52:31
And this is going to be a local analogy, but in Saint Louis.
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Saint Louis U basketball has Shafe.
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It's arena and it is not 20,000 people, it's about 10,000
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people. But it's intimate and when it's
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filled up it's really cool and it looks way better and it feels
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way better packed at 10,000 then if it was 2/3 full at 15,000 or
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look at enterprise centers 20,000.
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But like when it's packed, it feels special because it's
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smaller. Psychological One O 1.
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NASCAR knows this. That's why they got rid of the
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seats, and that's why they make those seats all those different
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colors, because what happens with the human mind is that
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people at home, they watch, they watch the race, and the first
53:15
thing they do is go, look, there's nobody in the
53:17
grandstands. So that convinces them that I'm
53:19
not going. People want to go where things
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are packed. People want to go where things.
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It's like, it's like a good restaurant.
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Let's go to that restaurant that I can never get into.
53:30
But I got to tell you nothing, Charlie.
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Texas Roadhouse aggravates the hell out of me.
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I I love Texas Roadhouse, but it makes me so mad that you got to
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get there 445 in the day just to get a seat.
53:45
You know? It's all because of the damn
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rolls in butter. We know that and the peanuts.
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But you know what I mean. Thank you, Jan.
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I love you. I love Texas.
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Roadhouse very underrated. Yeah, but but it, like I say, it
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aggravates me that you can never get in the damn thing, but it
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keeps people coming back because they know it's that good.
54:10
Look, here's the line. I think this is I think this is
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from Yogi Berra, who also was from Saint Louis.
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He says Ryan Lacortic says nobody goes there anymore.
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It's too crowded. I believe that's a a yogiism
54:23
going back in the day. What do you think, Herm?
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You want to you want to close it down?
54:28
We're we're over an hour. We're at 64 minutes.
54:31
I know you got a big, you got a big day.
54:33
We got a big day. We got the Herman Schrader
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tomorrow. Morning.
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Yeah, I'm tired. I'm tired.
54:39
It's 11 O clock. Let's leave like this.
54:41
So. So I said, I said NASCAR's off
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to its best start in 20 years. Now, remember I told you about
54:49
those white noise people here, here.
54:52
Jim says that was fun. The other person says what a
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race. The bumping and grinding, but
54:58
still driving those beat up cars.
54:59
That shorts track. Awesome.
55:02
Now here comes the white noise. Don't worry, they'll shoot
55:05
themselves in the foot with some controversy in the Daytona 500
55:10
already going negative because that's the way they are.
55:13
The other one, how will they F it up?
55:16
If they keep coming back, they're going to have to add
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more seats. So that was pretty good.
55:22
That was that was 7. That was four people, only one
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guy negative. So we're making gains,
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everybody. We're making gains.
55:31
Hi, Charlie. So.
55:34
There he is, Chase Elliott, the Bobby Allison Memorial Trophy.
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Good race, good weekend, good show, good live stream.
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Herm. Appreciate it.
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Thank you everybody for watching.
55:46
Thanks for all the comments, the questions, the Super chats.
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Thank you to Jags. Jags, you saw the Sunoco Race
55:53
fuel coffee mug as well. Kenny will be down there in
55:56
Volusia. Sorry, Ormond Beach, right?
55:58
All week, racing, podcasting. The guy never sleeps.
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He never stops working. I'm like you, Charlie.
56:05
You work harder than me. All right, Charlie, will you
56:08
just take it away, buddy? I love you.
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And by the way, everybody, that's the man right there.
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He's the one that asked me three years ago to do all this.
56:18
And even this live stream was Charlie's ideal.
56:20
About a month ago, he said should we start doing this at
56:23
the end of a handful of races through the year?
56:25
So Charlie, if if we both got energy, we'll try this a couple
56:30
more times, maybe even the Daytona 500, maybe some of our
56:34
races that make sense. For sure or or just a post game
56:38
if there's a big if there's a big finish for sure.
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Yeah, All right. Thanks her and.
56:41
We're both home. All right, there we go.
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No doubt. All right.
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See you guys. Thanks a lot.