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22 Panels Episode #246 - Metal Hurlant · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:02
  Tyler Johnson: Hey everyone, welcome back to 22 Panels. This is the podcast that aims to examine, explore, and elevate the medium of comics. I am Tyler.
• 0:13
  Tyler Johnson: Sitting with you on a Saturday morning with my, web thwips there. Hey, Tad, hey Phil, how's it going?
• 0:20
  Phil: Oh, it's going!
• 0:21
  Tyler Johnson: Good.
• 0:22
  Tyler Johnson: One of the… do you think we'll ever get sick of the web thwips?
• 0:26
  Phil: I mean, I… I'm not sick of the web twips. I… I think… I worry that you might be a little sick of the web flips.
• 0:32
  Tyler Johnson: I… I worry that the audience is like, yeah, yeah, yeah, very funny, you know, across the… across the interwebs, Spider-Man, we get it, you know.
• 0:40
  Tyler Johnson: And I, I stole that, that interwebs thing, I stole that from Adam Carolla. He,
• 0:47
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, he used to have,
• 0:49
  Tyler Johnson: well, he still does, but I used to listen to his podcast.
• 0:53
  Tyler Johnson: Way back in the day, and he referred to the internet all the time as the interwebs.
• 0:57
  Tad Eggleston: Before he became a nutjob.
• 1:00
  Tyler Johnson: Yes. Yep. Yep.
• 1:02
  Phil: Do you think him and Jimmy Kimmel still hang out?
• 1:04
  Tyler Johnson: They do, except, you know, I saw an interview with Adam recently where he talked about.
• 1:10
  Tad Eggleston: I doubt it. Or do they?
• 1:13
  Tyler Johnson: Well, according to Adam, he said they do, that while Trump… while Adam doesn't support Trump, he is very, very conservative in what he thinks, you know.
• 1:26
  Phil: Yikes.
• 1:26
  Tyler Johnson: Is what he says, but obviously, Jimmy is completely different.
• 1:30
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, sure seems to have gone off the deep end, too.
• 1:35
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, Drew Pinsky is crazy.
• 1:38
  Tad Eggleston: Slow.
• 1:40
  Phil: I don't know who that is.
• 1:41
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, yeah.
• 1:42
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no.
• 1:42
  Tyler Johnson: With Adam.
• 1:42
  Tad Eggleston: It's saddened.
• 1:43
  Tyler Johnson: on,
• 1:44
  Tad Eggleston: It was such a…
• 1:44
  Tyler Johnson: Dr. Drew?
• 1:47
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:48
  Tad Eggleston: He was such a…
• 1:50
  Tyler Johnson: Sure.
• 1:51
  Tad Eggleston: essential part of my childhood, and then he went nuts.
• 1:55
  Tyler Johnson: Damn.
• 1:56
  Tyler Johnson: when you… there's a show, early 2000s, late 90s, called Loveline, and him and Adam Carolla would answer calls. Adam was the comedy, and Drew was the actual doctor about sex advice.
• 2:10
  Phil: I remember hearing about that show.
• 2:12
  Tyler Johnson: And, it, it was…
• 2:14
  Tad Eggleston: Addiction medicine specialist, yeah.
• 2:16
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, yup, yep, yep.
• 2:18
  Tyler Johnson: And so, yeah, it was cool. I mean, it was entertaining, but this is before you knew both of them were weirdos.
• 2:28
  Tyler Johnson: And then, of course, Adam and Jimmy Kimmel were on the man show before that.
• 2:33
  Phil: Talk about your, episodes of TV that have an.
• 2:36
  Tad Eggleston: So after that.
• 2:39
  Tyler Johnson: What's that?
• 2:41
  Phil: I said talk about your episodes of TV that haven't aged very well, and
• 2:45
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, I know. Tad, it's an app.
• 2:46
  Phil: After. After Loveline was the man show.
• 2:49
  Tyler Johnson: Yes, yeah, Loveline, then The Man Show, and then.
• 2:51
  Tad Eggleston: During stuff.
• 2:53
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Damn.
• 2:54
  Tyler Johnson: And then, while Loveline was on, Jimmy Kimmel was on Win Ben Stein's Money.
• 2:59
  Phil: Oh yeah, I watched that.
• 3:01
  Tyler Johnson: That was a good show. Yeah. Jimmy was, like, so young in that as a host, you know?
• 3:06
  Phil: He hosted, holy cow. I thought for a second he was a contestant, but no, he was hosting.
• 3:10
  Tyler Johnson: he was the host, and then Ben Stein played the contestant.
• 3:13
  Tad Eggleston: No, because Ben was the contestant.
• 3:15
  Phil: Yeah.
• 3:16
  Tyler Johnson: Yep, yep.
• 3:17
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 3:19
  Tyler Johnson: He was in.
• 3:19
  Phil: Absolutely.
• 3:20
  Tyler Johnson: But anyway, let's, I digress. Let's move on to the.
• 3:23
  Tad Eggleston: former Nixon.
• 3:23
  Tyler Johnson: of the show.
• 3:25
  Tyler Johnson: What'd you say?
• 3:26
  Phil: Ben Stein's a former Knicks nade?
• 3:29
  Tad Eggleston: I said, former.
• 3:30
  Tyler Johnson: Really?
• 3:30
  Tad Eggleston: Former Nixon aide, Ben Stein, yeah.
• 3:34
  Tad Eggleston: in the Nixon White House.
• 3:35
  Phil: Didn't know that.
• 3:38
  Tyler Johnson: Economist, or what?
• 3:41
  Tyler Johnson: Or what…
• 3:42
  Tad Eggleston: I think so.
• 3:43
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 3:45
  Tyler Johnson: Certainly.
• 3:46
  Phil: working for.
• 3:46
  Tad Eggleston: And one of the advice.
• 3:47
  Phil: next.
• 3:53
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, man.
• 3:54
  Tad Eggleston: Get off on it. I mean, like…
• 3:56
  Tyler Johnson: Total tangent here.
• 4:03
  Tad Eggleston: I'll make a comment on that when we get to what kind of week has it been, because I don't think that we've talked much about Jack.
• 4:11
  Tad Eggleston: Smith making the rounds. But news of note this week, technically, I guess this first item is a San Diego Comic-Con item as well, but I heard about it first when Jason Aaron sent out his newsletter. Indiana Jones is…
• 4:27
  Tad Eggleston: Returning to Marvel.
• 4:30
  Tad Eggleston: And Jason Aaron will be penning it, so he's gotten to kick off both the Marvel Star Wars and the Marvel
• 4:39
  Tad Eggleston: Or the revived Marvel Star Wars and revived Marvel Indiana Jones.
• 4:43
  Tad Eggleston: Properties.
• 4:47
  Tyler Johnson: Ann Cohen.
• 4:48
  Tad Eggleston: I don't care as much about that, and I've forgotten.
• 4:51
  Phil: Yeah, me neither, but…
• 4:53
  Tad Eggleston: And that's not Lucasfilm.
• 4:56
  Tad Eggleston: That's not Lucasfilm, that's like… you're muddying the water.
• 5:03
  Tad Eggleston: spill.
• 5:04
  Phil: It's, it's a, it's a non- Hero returns.
• 5:07
  Tad Eggleston: We also wrote Thor.
• 5:08
  Phil: Yeah.
• 5:10
  Phil: I guess Thor is on license from, you know, Odin.
• 5:13
  Tyler Johnson: Yup.
• 5:16
  Tad Eggleston: Anyway, other, other, San Diego Comic-Con news…
• 5:22
  Tad Eggleston: Dennis Camp and Javier Rodriguez will… 18…
• 5:32
  Tad Eggleston: for an upcoming Shadow of the Bat series. Ongoing series at…
• 5:40
  Tad Eggleston: DC, ending their drought of series with… with,
• 5:47
  Tad Eggleston: Black main characters. Stephanie Williams and Kari Randolph have
• 5:52
  Tad Eggleston: how Vixen and Static will be…
• 5:56
  Tad Eggleston: Cody Zieglar and Diego Olotegui.
• 6:02
  Phil: Nice.
• 6:03
  Tad Eggleston: more Tegui.
• 6:05
  Tad Eggleston: Frank Miller's back at Dark Horse with Invasive Species, which he's writing in somebody else's drawing. And Dark Horse will also be publishing Barbie comics.
• 6:17
  Tad Eggleston: What kind of week has it been? The,
• 6:20
  Tad Eggleston: The big story this week is that, that the… Pentagon re… removed… 4…
• 6:28
  Tad Eggleston: people from the, KIA list.
• 6:32
  Tad Eggleston: For… reasons…
• 6:37
  Tad Eggleston: Initially, they said it was because, oh, we were in a ceasefire, so those… those four don't count.
• 6:45
  Tad Eggleston: And, and then they, then they said it was some sort of…
• 6:50
  Tad Eggleston: Information… cycling error, blah, blah, blah.
• 6:57
  Tad Eggleston: Also, the, the four involved…
• 7:00
  Tad Eggleston: a woman and a couple people of color. So, you know, who's…
• 7:04
  Phil: Holy shit.
• 7:04
  Tad Eggleston: so along with this Pentagon. Let's ignore the actual soldiers and the cost of the war. Likewise, Trump seemed to imply that the dead soldiers coming back to
• 7:20
  Tad Eggleston: Anders had told him that, that, it was very important that Iran not get a nuclear weapon.
• 7:37
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 7:37
  Phil: So…
• 7:38
  Tad Eggleston: I… I… I don't even… I don't even know what to do with that.
• 7:44
  Tyler Johnson: Alright.
• 7:48
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, did he have a seance? Did he… Did he just happen?
• 7:54
  Tyler Johnson: Was it…
• 7:54
  Tad Eggleston: all the four… There were soldiers that would wind up dying, and.
• 8:00
  Tyler Johnson: It was a tarot reading, come on.
• 8:04
  Tyler Johnson: Come on.
• 8:05
  Phil: Oh, he's just making stuff up.
• 8:07
  Tad Eggleston: He's using his OEG board?
• 8:09
  Phil: Yo.
• 8:09
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 8:11
  Phil: Oh, good.
• 8:12
  Tyler Johnson: His dowsing… no.
• 8:14
  Tad Eggleston: You know, I mean…
• 8:15
  Tyler Johnson: He's rolling the bones.
• 8:17
  Phil: There you go.
• 8:19
  Tyler Johnson: The chicken bones on his kitchen table.
• 8:22
  Phil: If there was ever someone whose brain very clearly was a dowsing rod, it'd be him.
• 8:26
  Tad Eggleston: But, but… But, but, but quickly, quickly jumping back to…
• 8:36
  Tad Eggleston: to your, your, statement about Ben Stein and, and working for…
• 8:48
  Tyler Johnson: Nixon.
• 8:48
  Tad Eggleston: Richard Nixon.
• 8:50
  Tad Eggleston: Jack Smith has been making the rounds, and one of the things that he's been
• 9:00
  Tad Eggleston: Really kind of hitting hard on is that, like.
• 9:07
  Tad Eggleston: particularly anybody that's not strictly a political hire, and I think… I think…
• 9:13
  Tad Eggleston: Ben Stein was, but that doesn't… Always make them…
• 9:19
  Tad Eggleston: You know, I've never, never heard anything that indicates that he was one of the ones that was involved.
• 9:25
  Tad Eggleston: directly with Nixon, and certainly in any tomfoolery,
• 9:31
  Tad Eggleston: But, but, like, particularly non-political hires, it's actually really, really important that you stick around as long as possible.
• 9:41
  Tad Eggleston: like, if you're given an order that's illegal, then yes, you need to resign rather than do it. But as long as you're still doing things that are within the legal purview of your job,
• 9:55
  Tad Eggleston: A…
• 9:58
  Tad Eggleston: being part of the balancing factor right now is important. B, like, there's gonna come a day that Trump isn't in office, and the less people we have to hire then, the better.
• 10:12
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. You know, we're already gonna have to hire outreach…
• 10:15
  Tad Eggleston: ridiculous number of people. I mean, it's… it's the thing that I felt like was overlooked the most when people were grading Biden, is that, like…
• 10:26
  Tad Eggleston: He… he came into office with… with all of…
• 10:30
  Tad Eggleston: All of the agencies completely gutted.
• 10:33
  Phil: Yeah.
• 10:34
  Tad Eggleston: You know, the State Department got cut by two-thirds during during Trump's first administration.
• 10:42
  Tad Eggleston: And oh, can you imagine the job the next Education Secretary has in front of them?
• 10:50
  Phil: It's gonna be impossible.
• 10:51
  Tad Eggleston: You know, I mean… It's, it's… it's, it's one thing to, to, like.
• 11:00
  Tad Eggleston: Write laws and allocate money and whatnot, but you still need to have people to To do the work.
• 11:07
  Phil: Yeah, absolutely.
• 11:08
  Tad Eggleston: And they're not there… you know… Right, so, so, like… Just having worked for…
• 11:23
  Tad Eggleston: A bad president shouldn't… shouldn't be…
• 11:27
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, this… this kind of goes back to the Tom King argument, and…
• 11:34
  Tad Eggleston: I heard a similar one when Smith was on,
• 11:41
  Tad Eggleston: John… Jon Stewart's weekly show with,
• 11:48
  Tad Eggleston: Brian Driscoll, who… who was briefly the act… acting
• 11:53
  Tad Eggleston: head of the FBI, actually because of a paperwork error that's from… Right.
• 12:01
  Phil: I remember hearing about that.
• 12:02
  Tad Eggleston: After they fired Christopher Ray.
• 12:05
  Phil: The drizz.
• 12:08
  Tad Eggleston: Right, but one of the things that he talked about a lot was, like, when I got into the FBI, yeah, I know their history, but…
• 12:17
  Tad Eggleston: Like, they're not going away, and we need an investigative organization. So, like…
• 12:26
  Tad Eggleston: That means that you want people Who are ethical, Who do want to, to… to fulfill the…
• 12:38
  Tad Eggleston: the higher purpose.
• 12:42
  Tad Eggleston: To take these jobs, because Otherwise, you only have the horrible people.
• 12:50
  Tad Eggleston: You know, if you don't have some forces within, working hard.
• 12:56
  Tad Eggleston: To… to make things better.
• 13:00
  Tad Eggleston: Now, like, how much you agree with that, like…
• 13:09
  Tad Eggleston: on a personal level, can go, you know, the… that's… that's a… Open question, but
• 13:19
  Tad Eggleston: I think it's dangerous, particularly with government organizations, to start thinking, that… Anybody who joins them.
• 13:29
  Tad Eggleston: Now, the possible exception to that is anybody that's joined ICE or
• 13:36
  Tad Eggleston: Border Patrol in, like, the last… 29 months to a year.
• 13:45
  Tad Eggleston: Again, like… Yes, we know now that it's been rotten.
• 13:54
  Tad Eggleston: from the inside for a long, long time. That wasn't common knowledge even 2 years ago.
• 14:02
  Phil: Yeah.
• 14:03
  Tyler Johnson: Right?
• 14:03
  Tad Eggleston: There is a specific purpose that it's supposed to serve.
• 14:07
  Phil: Right.
• 14:08
  Tad Eggleston: Wanting to serve that purpose isn't inherently bad.
• 14:13
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 14:15
  Tad Eggleston: against…
• 14:17
  Tad Eggleston: since Los Angeles, really, and certainly since Minneapolis, if you're signing up now, that's a whole different thing.
• 14:27
  Tad Eggleston: And to a certain extent, if you're actually managing to get the job in the Trump administration, that's a whole different thing.
• 14:36
  Phil: Yeah, I'd be curious.
• 14:37
  Tad Eggleston: they, they, they've… Instituted a level of, of, like…
• 14:43
  Tad Eggleston: Loyalty above all else that we've…
• 14:47
  Tad Eggleston: Certainly haven't seen in government in a long, long time.
• 14:51
  Phil: Yeah.
• 14:52
  Tad Eggleston: But… May not have seen ever.
• 14:57
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 14:59
  Tyler Johnson: Not in the United States.
• 15:01
  Tad Eggleston: But yeah, like… I don't think…
• 15:05
  Tyler Johnson: It's tough. I mean, like, obviously, we've seen this in other countries that we've fought with. I mean, I mean, World War II, you can look at what Hitler.
• 15:15
  Tad Eggleston: Damn.
• 15:16
  Tyler Johnson: from his… his, subjects, as I call them.
• 15:22
  Tyler Johnson: I mean, same thing with Mussolini or Stalin, I mean, they all ruled with this, you will…
• 15:28
  Tyler Johnson: obey me, or this is… I mean, this is this way or the highway. And that's what Trump wants so badly, but he doesn't have the clout to do it, right? I mean, he does, but he doesn't, and that's why we end up with this hillbilly band of MAGA morons, right?
• 15:45
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I mean, this… this is… this is where I remind people that, like.
• 15:50
  Tad Eggleston: When we think of Hitler and Stalin, we think of Hitler and Stalin 10 years in.
• 15:55
  Phil: Yeah.
• 15:56
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah. No, I'm talking about early. Like…
• 15:59
  Tad Eggleston: No, no, but…
• 16:00
  Tyler Johnson: One, yeah.
• 16:01
  Tad Eggleston: But I mean, in terms of them having that complete and total iron fist, we're thinking of them 5 to 10 years in. So, is he there yet? No. I'm not 100% certain that he's not on the trajectory, which is why I'm so happy that he's so much older than them.
• 16:22
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 16:24
  Tyler Johnson: I was just thinking, like, if you're gonna start this kind of, like, revolution and move us into a dictatorship, wouldn't you want to be a younger man? Why would you.
• 16:33
  Phil: Like.
• 16:34
  Tyler Johnson: Push for this so hard in your 80s.
• 16:36
  Phil: Oh!
• 16:37
  Phil: I mean, so this is… this is where I get back to just trying… trying to make sense of…
• 16:43
  Phil: of Trump is always dangerous, because there's no sense to be found, but like…
• 16:49
  Tad Eggleston: Well, sure there is. Money.
• 16:51
  Tad Eggleston: Money for me and my kids.
• 16:55
  Phil: Sure, but I guess, I guess I mean, like.
• 16:58
  Tyler Johnson: Sure.
• 16:58
  Phil: Yeah, I guess what I mean is, like, that… why are you pushing for this in your old age? He doesn't think he's gonna die.
• 17:05
  Phil: Like, he cannot…
• 17:07
  Tad Eggleston: logging into that.
• 17:07
  Phil: I can't fathom his own death. Like, that's exactly what's going on, and so that's why he's flailing wildly.
• 17:13
  Phil: For any sense of thrill, power, and feeling alive, you know?
• 17:18
  Tad Eggleston: Well, except on… except on alternate Tuesdays, where he's worried about getting into heaven.
• 17:23
  Phil: Sure, sure, yeah, you know. Those, those brief moments where the dementia is, is striking him to his core, you know?
• 17:32
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, is the dementia striking to his core, or are those his brief moments of lucidity?
• 17:38
  Tyler Johnson: I agree. It's hard to tell.
• 17:39
  Tyler Johnson: I don't… I don't… I don't like the idea of blaming any of his actions on,
• 17:44
  Phil: Oh.
• 17:44
  Tyler Johnson: On, on, on, his decline of mental health.
• 17:48
  Phil: No, he's always…
• 17:49
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I'll blame a lot of the actions on the decline in mental health, but I think when he's worried about getting into heaven, he's having brief moments of lucidity.
• 18:00
  Phil: Oh, I can see that.
• 18:01
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, I can see that.
• 18:02
  Tad Eggleston: He's like.
• 18:04
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, shoot.
• 18:06
  Phil: They're… if anything, they might…
• 18:07
  Tyler Johnson: Jesus isn't gonna like this at all.
• 18:09
  Phil: The first moments of lucidity he's ever had.
• 18:17
  Tyler Johnson: Let's get some new to order this month. I want to tell you guys… Yeah, we got…
• 18:22
  Tad Eggleston: brand new to order for August 27th, new catalog.
• 18:28
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, one of the…
• 18:29
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I will… I will quickly toss out, this does not include DC titles yet. DC is holding their solicits until, like, 4 o'clock this afternoon, so they would be ready for our Sunday release, but they're not ready for our Saturday morning recording, so we won't have any DC
• 18:50
  Tad Eggleston: Titles until next week.
• 18:52
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 18:53
  Tad Eggleston: West…
• 18:54
  Tyler Johnson: Well, first up, I want to talk about Kanto. This is the Clockwork Chronicles number 1 from David Bohr and Drew Zucker from Dark Horse.
• 19:03
  Tyler Johnson: The small knight with a big heart travels the unnamed world to help those in need. That mission takes him to the mysterious Forgotten Isles, where jungle fauna mixes with strange machines. The mystery of what happened to the Forgotten People who once lived there is put on hold
• 19:20
  Tyler Johnson: When catastrophe befalls his best friend, Miko the Melarix.
• 19:24
  Tyler Johnson: Will Kanto's courage be enough to save his companion?
• 19:28
  Tyler Johnson: We have final order cutoff of September 14th, and
• 19:32
  Tyler Johnson: This… excuse me, October 12th, I read the line above it. Final order is October 12th, and, in stores November 18th.
• 19:42
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, the detective number one from David and Maria Lapham at Bad Idea. It's a cold morning in the city when Valencia Velez wakes up in an unfamiliar bed with a revolver in her hand and a dead body at her side. She doesn't remember how she got there. She doesn't remember much of anything.
• 19:59
  Tad Eggleston: Just the long list of names buzzing around her head, suspects in the brutal ganglang execution of her husband.
• 20:05
  Tad Eggleston: Lucky for her, Val's a homicide detective.
• 20:08
  Tad Eggleston: The only trouble? In the city? So is everyone else.
• 20:12
  Tad Eggleston: Val's hunt for answers has painted a target on her back.
• 20:16
  Tad Eggleston: Caught between the crooked cops hot on her trail and the towering mechanical judges looming over the city's rain-soaked streets. Everly Val runs down only raises more questions. What secrets lie hidden in Val's missing memories? Who is the mastermind?
• 20:31
  Tad Eggleston: In the city, the truth doesn't come easy, and when it does, you'll wish it hadn't.
• 20:36
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cutoff of September 21st, in stores October 21st.
• 20:44
  Phil: Alright, Filthy Lambs, number 1, from Polly Paul Allure and Chris Evanuis at, Mad Cave. In the basement of Grimaldi Manor, the family patriarch says a prayer and stabs himself in the throat.
• 21:00
  Phil: Blood falls. The demon watches. A woman tries to scream.
• 21:04
  Phil: Upstairs, three generations of the Grimaldi family are… and a snapping turtle fill the house with unfulfilled promise and joyful childhood shrieks. These are tremendous, terrible times for the lineage. The Grimaldi's hold a contract with their lord below for 10 more years of prodigious wealth and glory, but old contracts can sour, monsters can misbehave, and a filthy little lamb.
• 21:28
  Phil: can still have teeth It's gonna have a final order cutoff of September 28th in stores October 21st.
• 21:36
  Tad Eggleston: Add Science Division No. 1 from Dan Waters and Brian Lovell at Ignition, it's no secret Archimedes Anderson is an EPO hire, assigned Chief Coordinator of R&D at the American Arm of Genetic Engineering and Bioweapons
• 21:51
  Tad Eggleston: development company, Miyashi Smith. Everyone knows he's here for one purpose.
• 21:57
  Tad Eggleston: to slash the budget and trim the fat. If he can cut 30% from the unaffectionately named Mad Science Division budget, he'll earn a cushy, high-level job at HQ.
• 22:08
  Tad Eggleston: He goes in with a move-fast-and-break-stuff attitude, knowing that
• 22:12
  Tad Eggleston: absolutely nothing about the dangerous genetic experiments taking place in the division. When he upsets the delicate equilibrium of department factions and removes guardrails which protect the workers and the public, he winds up exposing them to terrible, evil experiments. This is final order cutoff of September 28th.
• 22:33
  Tad Eggleston: in stores on November 4th.
• 22:37
  Tyler Johnson: Alright, Satanic Panic! Hey, guys, Tad especially, did your mom or dad get, you know, crazy about Satanic Panic crap in the 80s?
• 22:48
  Tad Eggleston: Nope. Or at least not that I remember.
• 22:51
  Tyler Johnson: My mom did. She believed Donahue like he was God. Anyway, Satanic Panic, from Matt Miller and Clay McCormick from Mad Cave. A sleepy 1980s town is stalked by a mask slasher at the height of the Satanic Panic.
• 23:07
  Tyler Johnson: where every heavy metal record Dungeons & Dragons campaign and teenage outsider is treated as evidence of devil worship. As fear spreads and bodies pile out, three local misfits become the prime suspect.
• 23:21
  Tyler Johnson: in a series of gruesome murders, join D&D geeks and Aussie enthusiasts Naz, Sal, and Terry as they race to clear their names, survive an increasingly blood-soaked town, and unmask the real killer before paranoia claims innocent lives.
• 23:37
  Tyler Johnson: But in a community eager to blame the weird kids, proving their innocence may be deadlier than facing the murderer.
• 23:44
  Tyler Johnson: This is going to have a final order cut off of October 5th, and be in shops October 28th.
• 23:51
  Tyler Johnson: Just in time for Halloween. Yeah, the satanic Panic was crazy. When I was a kid, my cousin kept giving me cassette tapes of bands he was into, and holy crap, my mom went just apeshit crazy about,
• 24:07
  Tyler Johnson: Ozzy, Motley Crue, I mean, anyone and everyone, corrupting us with their satanic music. Supposedly, records, you know, you guys, they put hidden messages if you played them backwards. However, my mom thought that that could easily transfer to cassette tape.
• 24:26
  Tyler Johnson: And I said, Mom, I have no way to play this backwards, so…
• 24:30
  Phil: That's funny.
• 24:32
  Phil: So, so the last… I must have had some of the last surviving bits of Satanic Panic. I was getting into heavy metal in the early 2000s, when I was a teenager.
• 24:40
  Phil: And, my… my parents were actually pretty cool about it, you know? They, got me a fair amount of, music and, you know, all kinds of different stuff. The one exception was, Slayer, Rain and Blood. I used to listen to music as I fell asleep, and my parents were like, don't listen to this while you sleep. And I'm like, okay, okay, I'll lay off the Slayer dreamland, you know? Slayer for.
• 25:03
  Tyler Johnson: We're going to sleep, huh?
• 25:04
  Phil: Exactly, yeah. Hey, I… I… I have… I do sleep to Macedon. I put on… I put on.
• 25:10
  Tyler Johnson: I do, too.
• 25:11
  Tyler Johnson: I will listen to Leviathan when I'm going to sleep. That record is so tight.
• 25:16
  Phil: Crack the Sky is my favorite one to say.
• 25:19
  Tyler Johnson: The practice guy is so good.
• 25:21
  Phil: Come on.
• 25:21
  Tyler Johnson: in that song specifically, Crack This Guy. Yes. Oh, my God.
• 25:25
  Phil: So good.
• 25:26
  Tyler Johnson: Anyway, Phil. So, originally, it was Ozzy that my mom was afraid of.
• 25:31
  Phil: Wow.
• 25:32
  Tyler Johnson: Then, in the early, early 90s, Marilyn Manson came on Donahue with his band, the Spooky Kids.
• 25:39
  Phil: Before he was… Oh, wow.
• 25:40
  Tyler Johnson: anything. Scared the crap out of her. She was just convinced that this… so then when he started.
• 25:46
  Phil: And rightfully so.
• 25:48
  Tyler Johnson: You know, and then when he started becoming popular, and I was wearing his t-shirts, oh my god.
• 25:53
  Phil: Oh, ho ho.
• 25:54
  Phil: Man, that is funny.
• 25:56
  Tyler Johnson: Anyway, alright. Alright.
• 25:58
  Phil: Next up is The Toxic Avenger versus the Noxious Offender, number 1, from Matt Boers and Felipe Sobriro at Ahoy. An evil duplicate of the Toxic Avenger appears in our dimension, which is bad, and Toxie's estranged father shows up, which might be worse. That's got a final order cutoff of September 7th in stores October 7th.
• 26:19
  Tyler Johnson: Awesome. Circus of Bones from Lake Mignola from Image,
• 26:26
  Tyler Johnson: This… I don't know why I ended up.
• 26:27
  Tad Eggleston: Graphic novels.
• 26:29
  Tyler Johnson: Oh!
• 26:30
  Tyler Johnson: Okay. We're in graphic novels there. Thanks, thanks, Tad, I missed that. I just kind of jumped down to where I was at.
• 26:38
  Tyler Johnson: This is the official hardcover catalog of the upcoming Mike Mignola Gallery Show at the Philippe Le Bonne Gallery in New York City. This beautifully designed book features 53 brand new watercolor paintings created by Mignola, especially for the exclusive event.
• 26:54
  Tyler Johnson: Additionally, there will be more than 80 other originals presented in this volume, including a selection of 29 new pencil drawings, as well as several new ink illustrations. The catalog is rounded out by more than 40 published covers and pages. Each image is scanned from the original art.
• 27:12
  Tyler Johnson: It's a glorious collection of art for Mike Manola fans everywhere. Final order caught off of June 22nd, and will be in shops November 4th.
• 27:22
  Phil: Alright, next up is FIRE from…
• 27:25
  Phil: Hideko Mizuno over at Uncivilized. Fire follows the meteoric rise and fall of Aaron Browning, a troubled and poor Ohio teenager. In juvenile detention, Aaron meets the magnetic delinquent Firewolf, a motorcycle-riding rebel with an extraordinary musical talent.
• 27:42
  Phil: Their intense bond awakens a fiery passion for music in Aaron, and he moves to Detroit's gritty factories and underground scene, where he forms the band Fire to channel his emotions, rebellion, and raw energy.
• 27:54
  Phil: As fame explodes, he plunges into the era's excess. Sex, drugs, rock and roll, Vietnam-era shadows, embodying the intoxicating yet destructive pursuit of freedom. Fire immerses the reader in the turbulent late 1960s, a fascinating peek at the vibrant American rock music scene of the time.
• 28:12
  Phil: where the final order cut off of September 28th, in stores October 28th as well. This one, there was extra solicited text about how this is actually a shoujo manga series, that is classic and historical, and kind of a missing link to a lot of the inspirations behind, some of those. So, this is… this is an extra special book, is, what I'm trying to say.
• 28:35
  Tad Eggleston: Cancel?
• 28:37
  Tad Eggleston: and Gretel.
• 28:40
  Tad Eggleston: Which apparently came out in bookstores, I think, last year, but it's in comic shops now. By Stephen King.
• 28:48
  Tad Eggleston: Henry Sendak.
• 28:49
  Tad Eggleston: From HarperCollins. The haunting tale of two brave children lost in a dark and dangerous forest is reimagined by literary legends Stephen King and Maurice Sendak.
• 29:00
  Tad Eggleston: Guide you into the most deliciously daring rendition of the classic grim fairy tale yet. But will you find your way back out? With personal introduction from Stephen King, the beautiful book has been created in close collaboration with the Maurice Sendak Foundation.
• 29:18
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah, this looks pretty cool.
• 29:22
  Tyler Johnson: Awesome. Alright.
• 29:24
  Phil: And it's final order cut off September 7th and stores October 7th.
• 29:28
  Tad Eggleston: Yep, sorry.
• 29:29
  Phil: That's okay.
• 29:30
  Phil: Next up, I Can't Stop Thinking About Horses and Sex by Lisa Hannawald from Drawn and Quarterly.
• 29:37
  Phil: From the creative mind behind Bojack Horseman and Tooken Birdie comes a fragmented memoir, poignant, punchy, and sometimes just plain gross. A deliciously candid and juicy exploration of platonic and romantic fixations, heartbreak, and the allure of horses. I Can't Stop Thinking About Horses and Sex marks the long-waited return of…
• 29:55
  Phil: Toucan Birdie, Bojack Horseman. Okay, it's a little repetitive designer Lisa Henwalt to comics. In this honest, silly, horny, and vulnerable memoir of a horse girl, now in her 40s.
• 30:04
  Phil: and reflecting back on a lifetime of obsessions. Whether Hanwalt is confronting large life issues, like whether or not to have kids, being an anxious little freak, caring for a sick horse, revisiting childhood trauma, or dealing with a major breakup and the ensuing lustfulness, she delivers a reading experience that's relatable, affirming, and almost always hilarious. In lush colors and kinetic lines, she charts the strange terrain of life, one bumpy, dusty horseback ride at a time.
• 30:29
  Phil: It's gonna have a final order cutoff of September 21st in stores October 20th.
• 30:36
  Tyler Johnson: How did you get the I Can't Stop Thinking About Horses and Sex book? I missed that one.
• 30:41
  Phil: You just have an eye for it.
• 30:44
  Tyler Johnson: We're scared.
• 30:44
  Tad Eggleston: I'm gonna do it next week, but he beat me to it.
• 30:47
  Phil: I like Lisa Hannibal.
• 30:48
  Tad Eggleston: I do too.
• 30:50
  Tad Eggleston: Requiem for Gaza from Chris Hedges and Joe Sacco at Fanda Graphics. In the spring of 2025, the cartoonist Joe Sacco
• 30:58
  Tad Eggleston: artist, author of…
• 31:00
  Tad Eggleston: Palestine and Footnotes in Gaza, and Chris Hedges, the former Middle East bureau chief for the New York Times, traveled to Cairo, where they interviewed 29 Palestinian families who had recently left Gaza.
• 31:12
  Tad Eggleston: In Requiem for Gaza, they use the experience and stories of these families to detail the crucible of the genocide, the loss of homes and communities, the appalling death toll among friends and loved ones, the constant displacement, the terror of indiscriminate killing, the hunger and deprivation.
• 31:31
  Tad Eggleston: The obliteration of all that was known and familiar, and the struggle to cope with the callous indifference of a world that continues to supply Israel with weapons despite its wholesale destruction of Gaza and mass slaughter.
• 31:45
  Tad Eggleston: Collective power of the individual stories that chronicle the first day of the genocide, the forced evacuation of homes, the targeted assassinations, the false hopes engendered by ceasefires, the dislocation and alienation of exile.
• 31:59
  Tad Eggleston: The brutal killing and hasty burial of family members and the humiliation of living under tarps without clean food and water bring every aspect of the genocide to life.
• 32:09
  Tad Eggleston: Set against the horror are stories of self-sacrifice and compa…
• 32:13
  Tad Eggleston: Compassion, that show how Palestinians not only clung to their humanity, but morally triumphed over their killers.
• 32:21
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cutoff is September 7th, in stores on October 7th.
• 32:29
  Tyler Johnson: Alright.
• 32:30
  Tyler Johnson: Silent Jenny from, Matthew Bablet from ONI.
• 32:35
  Tyler Johnson: In a not-too-distant future, climate change continues to ravage the planet, and the disappearance of insects has led to the end of pollination, rendering vast areas of land infertile.
• 32:48
  Tyler Johnson: A survival dynamic has emerged, mobile islands called monads have formed, and people strive to help each other, each group with its own customs, traditions, and ways of life. Jenny is a rather solitary researcher trying to restore the world as it once was.
• 33:04
  Tyler Johnson: She seeks to recover bee DNA to clone and recreate pollinating insects. However, she will come to realize that this is impossible.
• 33:15
  Tyler Johnson: The world… the old world no longer exists, and a new one must be built. She must work collectively with other Monad tribes, prioritizing mutual aid and collaboration. Final order cutoff will be September 21st, and this awesome book will be in shops October 13th.
• 33:35
  Tyler Johnson: And I apologize to listeners, if you can hear my pug, she is, making all kinds of noise in my arms, because she's very happy. So, she's doing her pug noises. We can't hear.
• 33:46
  Phil: On the wings of an angel.
• 33:48
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 33:49
  Phil: We should be so blessed.
• 33:51
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, collections.
• 33:54
  Phil: First up is In Your Skin from Aditya Biddikar, and Sam at Image.
• 34:01
  Phil: Priyanka has been a Bollywood superfan of film star Aisha Sen since she was a kid. She's watched her movies over and over and knows her dances beat for beat. But after a once-in-a-lifetime chance meeting with her idol goes awry, and Aisha…
• 34:15
  Phil: announces her impending retirement from movies, Priyanka's admiration turns to obsession. If Aisha doesn't want to live her perfect life, then Priyanka would be more than happy to take it for herself. It's gonna have a final order cutoff of September 21st, in stores October 28th.
• 34:33
  Tyler Johnson: Cool. Muppets Noir, I've been reading this in issues, it's been really good, from Roger Landridge from Dynamite. It's time to cue the music. It's time to dim the lights.
• 34:45
  Tad Eggleston: Dim the lights, it's time to get things started.
• 34:48
  Tyler Johnson: started as the Muppets return tonight.
• 34:50
  Tad Eggleston: attend tonight.
• 34:51
  Tyler Johnson: Okay, the show is about to begin at the famous Muppet theater, and the regular pre-curtain chaos has the troop stalewart MC, Kermit the Frog coming apart at the seams. In an attempt to de-stress, he settles down to read a few pages of an old favorite detective novel.
• 35:09
  Tyler Johnson: Only to get, KO'd by an errant brick to the bean, leaving him laid out backstage as his co-stars try to coax him back to consciousness.
• 35:20
  Tyler Johnson: But unbeknownst to them, Kerman has taken up the hard-boiled mantle of his fictional hero to walk the darkened streets of Dreamland
• 35:29
  Tyler Johnson: Writing wrongs and cracking cases under the concealing cover of night. Flipman OPI has no time for song and dance. Not if he's going to solve the baffling mystery of the snoozing sleuth.
• 35:42
  Tyler Johnson: This will have final order cut off August 31st, and will be in shops October 7th.
• 35:51
  Tad Eggleston: Alamar, the heartbreak Soup Stories from Gilbert Hernandez at Fanta Graphics.
• 35:58
  Tad Eggleston: Palomar is the perfect entry into the works of critically acclaimed cartoonist Gilbert Hernandez, and the still-ongoing Love and Rockets comic book series. It stars the inhabitants of a small Latin American town, long-suffering midwife, sheriff, cello, peepo, tomboy turned heartthrob, Carmen, rier than her years, teen boys Heraclio, Satch, Augustine.
• 36:22
  Tad Eggleston: Jesus, Israel, and Vincente.
• 36:25
  Tad Eggleston: Or Vicente.
• 36:26
  Tad Eggleston: whose paths diverge and intersect over time, Diana and Tantazine, sisters in polar opposites, and many other finely drawn and dynamic characters whose already tempestuous lives are roiled when Luba, an assertive single mother, moves there to set up her bathing business.
• 36:45
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cutoff is September 7th, in stores on October 7th. This is the…
• 36:54
  Tad Eggleston: reprinting of the long, out-of-print, big-ass hardcover that includes pretty much all of the Palomar stories from the
• 37:02
  Tad Eggleston: first 50 issues of Love and Rockets.
• 37:06
  Phil: Nope.
• 37:07
  Tad Eggleston: great companion piece to Jaime's Locust that came out earlier this year.
• 37:12
  Tad Eggleston: So… Final order cutoff for August, Third.
• 37:18
  Tad Eggleston: a week from Monday. Anatomy of Comics from Damien McDonald at Rizzoli, out September 1st. Black Tower, The Raven Conspiracy, number 1, from Ram V and Mike Perkins at DC, out on August 26th. Denver, number one, from Jimmy Palmiati, Justin Gray, and Pierre Brito, from Mad Cave, out on August 26th. Fixation, number one, from Suspiria Vilchez.
• 37:43
  Tad Eggleston: Amy Chase and Savannah Meyer at IDW, out on September 9th. Folk of Duny Hollow, number 1, from Jeremy Hans and Alex Linz at Ignition, out on September 9th. Forever Home, number 1, from Christian Ward and Sammy Cavella at Oney, out on September 9th.
• 38:00
  Tad Eggleston: Forever from Brian Box Brown at IDW, out on September 8th. Hammer Fist No. 1 from Rick Remender, Steve Epting, Matt Hollingsworth at Image Comics, out on August 26th. John of the Night from Daryl Cunningham at Avery Hill. Final or cutoff is…
• 38:19
  Tad Eggleston: I forgot to delete that line, out on September 2nd.
• 38:25
  Tyler Johnson: I didn't catch it, what did it say?
• 38:27
  Tad Eggleston: On Their Frontlines Volume 1, Marina Lisa Camilla at Fanographics, out on August 26th. The Outsider by Joseph De Esposito at Phanographics, out on September 30th, and Six of Us No. 1 from Tom King and Gabriel Hernandez Walter
• 38:46
  Tad Eggleston: from Dark Horse Comics, out on September 9th.
• 38:51
  Tad Eggleston: Phil, you want to talk some crowdfunding?
• 38:53
  Phil: Yeah, first up there is The Monuments, Volume 2, Let His Death Be a Warning from Oliver Mertz on Kickstarter through July 29th. I Just Came From Hell, the sequel to Who Killed Sarah Shaw from Frankie White and Adam Markowitz on Kickstarter through August 3rd. Outlaw's Apprentice Broken Blade by
• 39:12
  Phil: Chris Schweiser on Kickstarter through July 30th. Sink Your Teeth Inn number 2 from Zoe Tunnel, Lauren Knight, JP Jordan, Jordy Troutman, and Michelle Abbinator on Kickstarter through August 6th.
• 39:22
  Phil: And then coming soon, we have the Tezuka God of Manga documentary, from Jason Cohn, hopefully launching soon on Kickstarter, and then, also launching soon is The Death of Comics Book Case Reign of the Comics Book Cases from Zach Quaintance and various artists, also launching soon on Kickstarter.
• 39:40
  Phil: Tyler, what's on Humble Bundle lately?
• 39:43
  Tyler Johnson: Some pretty good stuff. The Clip Studio Creation Collection is up, for Paint, Draw, and Animate.
• 39:50
  Tyler Johnson: For $25, you get 10 items, and that goes to DonorsChoose, which is a public education charity, and it's extended to August 5th.
• 40:01
  Tyler Johnson: Sure to get on that.
• 40:02
  Tyler Johnson: The Blade Runner collection from Tayton Alcon, is $18, and you get 17 items. That goes to the Direct Relief Emergency Medical Charity. On July 30th is that cutoff.
• 40:17
  Tyler Johnson: This one I'm very excited about, the Humanoids Mega Bundle from Universes Unbound Part 1.
• 40:25
  Tyler Johnson: 35 titles, that's 151 volumes, including the Insole, Techno Priest, Inkle, yeah, that's right, we read that. The Inkl, Techno Priest, Metal Hurlant.
• 40:35
  Tyler Johnson: Timely. Bonsai and more. $20 gets you 35 titles, and that is, going towards Reading as Fundamental, deadline for that is August 5th.
• 40:49
  Tyler Johnson: Next up is the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Return to New York, out from IDW.
• 40:57
  Tyler Johnson: For $25, there are 48 items,
• 41:02
  Tyler Johnson: which, this is going towards Make-A-Wish, and this is going to August 12th.
• 41:09
  Tyler Johnson: Last up is the Dark Horse 40th Anniversary Bundle. This one, I am the most excited about. You get a lot of good books. A lot of good Dark Horse stuff. Holy crap, I looked at over 40 items, you guys, for $20.
• 41:24
  Tyler Johnson: 20 bucks.
• 41:25
  Tad Eggleston: The only downside is it's all… only Volume 1s.
• 41:29
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, yeah, but again.
• 41:31
  Phil: Did you…
• 41:31
  Tyler Johnson: good, good, intro to those… I mean, if you've never really got into Dark Wars, this is.
• 41:37
  Tad Eggleston: And they're still really good results.
• 41:38
  Phil: Society, too. Absolutely.
• 41:40
  Tyler Johnson: Variety, yeah, there's anything and everything,
• 41:44
  Tyler Johnson: Anyway, that's going to the HERO Initiative, and will, be open until August 13th.
• 41:52
  Tyler Johnson: Alright, Tad, 3 amazing new books!
• 41:56
  Tad Eggleston: I'm gonna lead off with, with our, our Godzilla vs. America San Diego.
• 42:05
  Tad Eggleston: Stan Sakai took… took some, Godzilla to Comic-Con, and Rick and Fake did some Godzilla at Comic-Con.
• 42:19
  Tad Eggleston: It's the other…
• 42:25
  Tad Eggleston: I'm pulling it up, because I want to make certain I, A, give… give proper credit, and B,
• 42:33
  Tad Eggleston: It's just beautiful.
• 42:35
  Tad Eggleston: Stan Sakai, Greg and Fake…
• 42:40
  Tad Eggleston: What was the third… third full story?
• 42:45
  Phil: This is where.
• 42:46
  Tyler Johnson: I don't know.
• 42:46
  Phil: I was actually born in San Diego, and I've only been to Comic-Con once.
• 42:51
  Tyler Johnson: Holy shit.
• 42:52
  Phil: Back when you could still buy tickets from scalpers, I had.
• 42:56
  Tyler Johnson: A verbal foot.
• 42:57
  Phil: And my uncle bought some scalper tickets, and we limped around the stage floor. It was pretty wild.
• 43:03
  Tad Eggleston: See, I went to Comic-Con when I could… you could still buy tickets at the door.
• 43:09
  Phil: Wow!
• 43:11
  Tad Eggleston: Wow.
• 43:13
  Phil: Yeah.
• 43:14
  Tyler Johnson: I would.
• 43:15
  Tad Eggleston: To San Diego for something else.
• 43:16
  Tyler Johnson: Other than Comic-Con.
• 43:18
  Phil: How dare you?
• 43:20
  Tyler Johnson: How dare. Oh, hey, going back to the dark horse thing, you guys, milk and cheese is on there. If you've never read…
• 43:28
  Tyler Johnson: Evan… Evan Dorkin's Milk and Cheats. This Dairy Products Gone Bad story is… or book compilation, I should say, is just awesome. It's so funny.
• 43:38
  Tad Eggleston: The only issue I have with… with, the… the compilation is…
• 43:45
  Tad Eggleston: like, similar to reading comic strips sometimes. Like, Milk and Cheese is definitely very much designed to be read
• 43:54
  Tad Eggleston: like, weekly.
• 43:55
  Tyler Johnson: Correct, yeah.
• 43:56
  Tad Eggleston: you read too many of them in a row, and it's like, okay, I get it.
• 44:02
  Tyler Johnson: I mean, yeah, it's a strip. You need to…
• 44:05
  Tad Eggleston: Tickets.
• 44:06
  Tyler Johnson: Ball chunks, you know?
• 44:07
  Tad Eggleston: Right, right. But finishing on the Godzilla vs. San Diego, we've got a… the last story was from Dan Juergens and Margot Pipoy, but what really made it cool is they called them Artist Alley pinups, but many of them were single-page
• 44:24
  Tad Eggleston: comments.
• 44:26
  Phil: Nice.
• 44:27
  Tad Eggleston: From Nicole Goo, Carla Wisgala, Dave Baker, Jared Callum, Gavin Smith, and Melena Denano, Sean Galloway, Patrick Horvath, Travis Mercer, Gabby Ramirez, and Alfredo Cardona. So, like…
• 44:43
  Phil: Jam-packed.
• 44:44
  Tad Eggleston: Three multi-page comics that were cool, and then, like, 8 pinups, but again, like… Most of the pinups
• 44:58
  Tad Eggleston: We're… were single-page comics, not…
• 45:03
  Tad Eggleston: you know, probably separately, the Nicole Goo and Dave Baker stories, they did their own rather than working together, might have been my favorite.
• 45:15
  Tad Eggleston: in the books.
• 45:17
  Phil: Nice.
• 45:17
  Tad Eggleston: Bye.
• 45:21
  Tad Eggleston: though the Patrick Korovath was awfully good at, you know, I mean, just… the single-page ones were just… Fantastic.
• 45:29
  Phil: For some reason… I imagine that one being, like, Godzilla fighting a giant bear.
• 45:34
  Tad Eggleston: Let's see… Horvath, I think, is this one.
• 45:38
  Tad Eggleston: I don't think it was, I think it was…
• 45:42
  Tad Eggleston: That's… everything's loading, so the internet at this hotel is not great.
• 45:49
  Tyler Johnson: Sometimes Tad…
• 45:51
  Tad Eggleston: Sometimes I hear.
• 45:52
  Tyler Johnson: talking.
• 45:53
  Tyler Johnson: You do lag slightly. I can see your mouth move, and then we hear you about 5 seconds later. I believe it. And then…
• 46:03
  Tyler Johnson: But it's kind of funny. But your room… your room looks… your room looks pretty basic there. What are you doing on your, road trip to Iowa?
• 46:11
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, we're just meeting with, with Kelly's sister and family.
• 46:15
  Tad Eggleston: Nice.
• 46:16
  Tyler Johnson: Only they're sleeping, and you're just talking away?
• 46:18
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 46:20
  Tyler Johnson: Okay, okay.
• 46:21
  Tad Eggleston: Because there wasn't a good place otherwise.
• 46:24
  Tad Eggleston: That's why I've been trying to be quieter.
• 46:27
  Tyler Johnson: This is the first time I saw movement behind you, so please apologize to your wife.
• 46:34
  Tyler Johnson: I am so sorry.
• 46:36
  Tad Eggleston: Anyway, Phil, take a walk.
• 46:38
  Phil: So this week is, my mom's birthday, so happy birthday, Mom. And, you know, she's also an awesome comics lover, so I figured I'd talk a little bit about, some of the comics she's loved over the years. The first one being Sweet Tooth, where when she was helping me move into my college apartment, there was just issues.
• 46:57
  Phil: I think the Volume 1 laying around and
• 46:59
  Phil: she was… just picked it up, started reading it, and absolutely loved it. And that started her love of Jeff Lemire.
• 47:05
  Phil: And then, believe it or not, it was really funny, she, she, she asked me what, she was like, I read an article about… have you heard of a book called Sex Criminals? And I was like, oh my god, mom, that book is hilarious, it's one of my absolute favorites coming out at the time. And I thought it was beyond hilarious that my mom asked me about it.
• 47:24
  Tyler Johnson: So, similar story, Phil. Yeah. I had the Sex Criminals omnibus, or Complete Collection Edition, which is… it's a bright pink cover with the two of them running without pants on, and Cash coming behind them.
• 47:37
  Tyler Johnson: So that was on my counter, because I also was reading it when that omnibus came out. And my mom also is in the house, and she just casually looks at it, and she's like.
• 47:47
  Tyler Johnson: Sex criminals.
• 47:51
  Tyler Johnson: What are you reading? Yeah, so, it was funny.
• 47:54
  Phil: But she didn't read it. My mom actually.
• 47:57
  Tyler Johnson: No!
• 47:58
  Phil: My mom actually read Sex Purdles, and found it hilarious, and very much enjoyed it.
• 48:03
  Tyler Johnson: My mom had a look of disdain on her face.
• 48:06
  Phil: Right?
• 48:06
  Tyler Johnson: Hi, Tyler.
• 48:09
  Tyler Johnson: You're reading about CAC?
• 48:11
  Phil: They're… they're saving a library, it's a worthy cause, dammit.
• 48:14
  Tyler Johnson: At the beginning, sure.
• 48:16
  Phil: Right? Yeah. And then, the most recent one I've given her was Bad Karma, you know, the action comedy about a couple of disabled vets, going to right one of their wrongs from someone falsely incriminated by a murder they committed by Alex DeCampi and…
• 48:35
  Phil: I am blanking on the artist, but he was awesome. I feel so bad for blanking on that artist.
• 48:43
  Tad Eggleston: To have a computer in front of you.
• 48:45
  Phil: I do… I… yeah, but I can't talk and type at the same time, you know?
• 48:50
  Tad Eggleston: Doing it all over the place.
• 48:53
  Phil: You're… congratulate… you know, you're…
• 48:56
  Tyler Johnson: You're like, oh my word, that Tad tries.
• 49:01
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, God.
• 49:01
  Tyler Johnson: I was just kidding.
• 49:02
  Tad Eggleston: Alex DeCampi and…
• 49:04
  Phil: Ryan Howe. Ryan Howe.
• 49:05
  Phil: There we go.
• 49:06
  Tad Eggleston: There you go.
• 49:07
  Phil: Almost couldn't live that down.
• 49:09
  Tyler Johnson: Oh man, guys, that almost derailed the whole show.
• 49:12
  Phil: It was… it was bad.
• 49:13
  Tad Eggleston: It was…
• 49:13
  Phil: No bad ones, we just…
• 49:14
  Tad Eggleston: I know.
• 49:15
  Phil: barely, barely scramble it, but I basically decided, I'm like, I feel like Alex DeCampi is the next writer that I want to get my mom into, comics-wise. So, that's, that's where the bad karma comes into play.
• 49:26
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, Alex DeCampi's pretty awesome.
• 49:29
  Phil: She is… absolutely, and it's like… It's, it, yeah.
• 49:33
  Tad Eggleston: I'm a big fan of her as a writer and a human being.
• 49:36
  Phil: Oh, yeah. She does seem like the kind of… the kind of writer that, you know.
• 49:46
  Phil: I'm struggling to think of, not, like, not just that my mom would like, but that my mom probably hasn't…
• 49:53
  Phil: She doesn't have enough…
• 49:56
  Phil: what am I trying to say? She… she… she might read a lot, and she reads a lot of mystery novels, but, like, she also enjoys a lot of literature, and so I feel like Alex is on that level of, like, hey, this is, like, literally really strong, not just, like, fun genre work, so that's what I was trying to get at. Tad, did you… it looks like we're both becalmed in this week's One Piece race? Yeah.
• 50:18
  Phil: I know.
• 50:18
  Tad Eggleston: I was a bit calm this week. It was a busy week.
• 50:22
  Phil: It is.
• 50:22
  Tad Eggleston: I didn't… I didn't manage to read any one piece.
• 50:25
  Phil: Yeah.
• 50:25
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 50:27
  Tyler Johnson: That's too bad.
• 50:28
  Tad Eggleston: I'm moving in.
• 50:28
  Tyler Johnson: I did.
• 50:31
  Tyler Johnson: No. He's like, Cheer.
• 50:34
  Phil: 500 chapters back, like, hey, I picked it up again.
• 50:39
  Tad Eggleston: I would be… I would… I would be… I would be so proud of you, Tyler.
• 50:43
  Tyler Johnson: I've been giving it a thought. I'm like, I gotta get back into that,
• 50:48
  Phil: I'm still saying you should… you should do the… the stealth… the stealth overtake, just go on a marathon.
• 50:54
  Tyler Johnson: And just not tell you guys until I'm past.
• 50:57
  Phil: I had a Tad ignite a fire in his belly.
• 51:02
  Tad Eggleston: So, great responsibility this… this week. I thought, since there's a fantastic metal erlot bundle, Yeah.
• 51:11
  Tad Eggleston: we… we should explore it a little, and… and tell… particularly because, like, I…
• 51:19
  Tad Eggleston: I know my metal erlot pretty well, because…
• 51:23
  Tad Eggleston: We, we have our, our Heavy Metal Book Club.
• 51:28
  Tad Eggleston: But… but you guys, I didn't know how much.
• 51:31
  Tad Eggleston: you had experienced it, so I thought it would be fun to… To see what you thought.
• 51:38
  Phil: I've seen the movie, that's about it.
• 51:41
  Tad Eggleston: Well, that's heavy metal.
• 51:43
  Phil: Yeah.
• 51:44
  Tad Eggleston: And, and they're, they're, they're very, they're very tied, but, but they're not, they're not quite the same.
• 51:50
  Phil: Okay.
• 51:52
  Tyler Johnson: What is the… I don't know much about the… either publication. I mean, I know what they are, but I…
• 51:58
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean… They both tend to be adult, mostly sci-fi, some fantasy.
• 52:06
  Tyler Johnson: But are they tied together, is what.
• 52:07
  Tad Eggleston: Mostly European.
• 52:09
  Phil: Well, they're both published by…
• 52:10
  Tad Eggleston: The way that they're… well, no, they're not both published by humanoids. Oh. Heavy Metal is its own company. The way they're tied together is particularly in the early years.
• 52:25
  Tad Eggleston: much… of… Heavy Metal was reprinting Storage from metal or lawns.
• 52:34
  Phil: Oh.
• 52:35
  Tad Eggleston: United States for the first time.
• 52:39
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, interesting. Because Metal Hourlante is a French comics magazine.
• 52:45
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 52:47
  Tad Eggleston: So, so, like… Heavy metal was the first time that a U.S. audience.
• 52:57
  Tad Eggleston: Or really, for a lot of them, where they were even translated into English. Not always well.
• 53:03
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 53:04
  Tad Eggleston: One of the things we've discovered is there's one story in particular that, like, a new translation done by New York Review Books recently made us take a story that we had
• 53:15
  Tad Eggleston: that I had not liked it. I mean, I guess the other people haven't read it, but we… I've shown them some samples. But took a story that I hadn't liked when I read it in heavy metal.
• 53:26
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. And I like a lot.
• 53:28
  Tad Eggleston: With a better translation.
• 53:30
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, that's…
• 53:31
  Phil: That's an incredible translation.
• 53:32
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 53:33
  Phil: Huge factor.
• 53:34
  Tad Eggleston: Right, but, yeah, so that's… that's the tie between the two.
• 53:41
  Phil: Okay, I didn't quite realize that it was… it was that,
• 53:45
  Phil: That links. That's… that's really interesting.
• 53:47
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 53:48
  Tad Eggleston: Metal Erlant actually, actually translates to screaming metal.
• 53:53
  Phil: Nice.
• 53:56
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 53:58
  Tad Eggleston: So, so…
• 53:59
  Phil: Okay.
• 54:01
  Tad Eggleston: Even though it feels like, oh, it's the same title, it's not quite.
• 54:05
  Tad Eggleston: No.
• 54:06
  Phil: That's an important distinction, too.
• 54:08
  Tad Eggleston: But, but, but it was also… it was the… the…
• 54:14
  Tad Eggleston: Metal Erlant was actually founded by… Febreze Geiger, and Mobius, and…
• 54:25
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I can't remember the other two guys, but, like, an absolute who's who of… Late 60s, early 70s.
• 54:36
  Tad Eggleston: Band-Aid is nay.
• 54:38
  Tad Eggleston: artists. Like, so, so the… The craft is just on… on a different… different level, and… and also,
• 54:53
  Tad Eggleston: very different.
• 54:56
  Tad Eggleston: from a lot of US comics, particularly if you're used to superhero comics, which is why, like.
• 55:04
  Tad Eggleston: I was so happy to start the book club, because, like, when we started the book club, it was… it was something that I hadn't.
• 55:11
  Tad Eggleston: exposed, you know, I read The Inkle, I'd read a handful of other humanoids titles, but I didn't have a lot of experience, and to be able to work through,
• 55:23
  Tad Eggleston: anthology series to get this… this feeling for this… this other corner of comics was… was pretty fun. Now, what we're looking at here is actually probably…
• 55:38
  Tad Eggleston: One of the…
• 55:44
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, at least for me, I like everything I've read from the 60s
• 55:50
  Tad Eggleston: 70s and early 80s, better than most of what I read here, and I also like everything I've read in the new volumes.
• 55:58
  Phil: Oh, okay.
• 55:59
  Tad Eggleston: than a lot of what I've read here, so this might represent kind of a lull in
• 56:05
  Tad Eggleston: And I'll be honest, and it's one of the reasons that I want you guys to go first, the other reason being that I have more experience, I didn't actually read every story in the one that, like… I started every one of them, and if it didn't wind up grabbing me, I moved on, because it's like, I felt like…
• 56:23
  Tad Eggleston: A, I can speak to the overall concept, and B, I wanted to highlight the ones that felt
• 56:32
  Tad Eggleston: like, there was a purpose to me highlighting them, so… so, like, I didn't want it to be just the story that I picked out. I wanted it to be art, I wanted it to be…
• 56:43
  Tad Eggleston: something special.
• 56:45
  Phil: Absolutely. I mean, I had a similar issue at… well, I had a similar strategy to reading, where I went through just… just reading through the art, you know? Like, not reading the bubbles, but looking at the art styles, and honestly, like, a lot of the coloring was very, like, gray and brown, you know?
• 57:04
  Phil: Like, it looked like early 2000s attempt at photorealistic, and…
• 57:10
  Phil: Yeah, it wasn't all my cup of tea, but I did find, actually, 3 stories in a row that…
• 57:16
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 57:16
  Phil: this, this was… this is the thing that I thought was really interesting, is that once… so it's like, they put the, the American comics people up front, you know, the ones that anyone just opening and flipping through might be like, oh, I know this name, oh, I know this name.
• 57:30
  Phil: And then, like, as you get into it, that's where you get the more European styles, and honestly, anytime someone was coloring themselves, it looked way stronger than, when they brought in a colorist, so…
• 57:43
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 57:43
  Phil: So the first one up for me was Spare Parts by Stuart Moore, Coley Hamner, and Clements, which…
• 57:52
  Tad Eggleston: Moore has… who's been on 22 panels.
• 57:54
  Phil: Yep, yep.
• 57:55
  Tad Eggleston: Who fits?
• 57:56
  Phil: Who's, head of, Ahoy Comics now.
• 57:59
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 57:59
  Phil: Yeah, yeah. I think he actually follows me on Blue Sky, for some reason.
• 58:05
  Tad Eggleston: me.
• 58:06
  Phil: Yeah, he seems like a good guy, for that alone. But, it… it was a really interesting story about a, dictator who comes to power, and a man who becomes his body double.
• 58:19
  Phil: And the, you know, kind of using that framework as a look into Middle Eastern,
• 58:29
  Phil: dictator politics, and it was… it was a really, it was a really interesting story. You know, just…
• 58:38
  Phil: again, it was one of those things where I… because I had this similar thought going through, where I'm like, okay, what makes this metal or on? Like, what sets this apart from the
• 58:48
  Phil: any other type of comic. And, like, I think really just this range of going from a political story like that to next…
• 58:56
  Phil: Overdose by Jim McDonald and Deep High, which was a weird, trippy story about, junkies who… one of them starts, astral projecting while…
• 59:09
  Phil: Intoxicated and having sex, and it just kind of…
• 59:13
  Phil: you know, it… the art really sucked me in there, and looked absolutely incredible. And the story kind of ends on a, okay, wait, what? Not in a, like, a big twist sort of way, but just kind of like an, huh, sort of way?
• 59:28
  Phil: Which was interesting. And then, of course, the one after that was The Photo Taker by Guy Davis and Jerry Friszen.
• 59:35
  Tad Eggleston: That, that, that one was seriously fun.
• 59:38
  Phil: Oh, yes, I love Guy Davis so much. I have missed his art in my reading, like.
• 59:44
  Phil: every single panel… I just… I could… I could gush about Guy Davis, just the fact that he's… he's…
• 59:53
  Phil: He's a self-taught cartoonist.
• 59:55
  Phil: that…
• 59:56
  Phil: is, like, absolutely perfect. Like, there's nothing he can't draw. The silent storytelling he does is so strong, of just, like, looks, these fully rendered environments, and it was basically a two-tone, where it was just blue, white, and his lines, and I think other shades of blue as kind of a… kind of an offset. And it's just… yeah.
• 1:00:16
  Phil: If there's only one story to read, that one was my absolute favorite, flipping through it.
• 1:00:22
  Tyler Johnson: I, also read a Guy Davis one, but I'll get to that in a second. The first one, that I really liked was the first one in the…
• 1:00:31
  Tad Eggleston: Really quick question for you, Tyler.
• 1:00:35
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 1:00:36
  Tad Eggleston: You seem to have read a different volume than we did. Do you… Do you…
• 1:00:43
  Tad Eggleston: Because I didn't recognize all of the stories that you… put up.
• 1:00:48
  Tyler Johnson: I wonder here.
• 1:00:50
  Tad Eggleston: Which, which, which volume did you open up and read?
• 1:00:54
  Tyler Johnson: Let's see… I ain't headed on my phone.
• 1:01:01
  Phil: Same here.
• 1:01:02
  Tyler Johnson: What's that?
• 1:01:03
  Phil: Same here, I also read them on my phone, but but, you know, it…
• 1:01:09
  Phil: they went pretty well. Like, that's… that's the thing, is the… when the Guy Davis art jumps off my phone.
• 1:01:15
  Phil: And it's still phenomenal. It's like, ugh.
• 1:01:19
  Phil: Absolutely. I mean, and that's where, like, I'm glad that he's working as a concept artist with Guillermo del Toro, you know, I'm glad he has a good position where he's able to do stuff, but, like, man, I miss his comics.
• 1:01:34
  Tyler Johnson: Mmm, yeah, I'm looking at yours now, Tad. I did read something else that I had found. I'm sorry, I thought there was just one thing.
• 1:01:40
  Phil: Not all metal or laund is made the same.
• 1:01:43
  Tyler Johnson: No, I… I… never mind. Okay.
• 1:01:47
  Tyler Johnson: Well, I read other metal Erlance stories.
• 1:01:51
  Tad Eggleston: No, I'm just trying to figure out where they were from, because we should plug them.
• 1:01:56
  Phil: Well, I will…
• 1:01:56
  Tyler Johnson: I will get that information as soon as I'm done talking here, but the Hunter.
• 1:02:01
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah!
• 1:02:01
  Tyler Johnson: was the first one in that series by Kurt Busiak, and I picked that one because I love, the, Kurt Busiak Astro City.
• 1:02:12
  Tyler Johnson: So, what I found about that that I really liked was, that… this was, like,
• 1:02:27
  Tyler Johnson: Provides, like, a… like a… Haunting… it's very atmospheric in this story, science fiction kind of story.
• 1:02:34
  Tyler Johnson: about survival and things like that, and it came with the art by Gerald Perel?
• 1:02:43
  Tyler Johnson: Which I'm not familiar, obviously a French artist. But, his art was hyper-detail, you guys, so it worked perfectly with Boussiac's storytelling, you know?
• 1:02:56
  Phil: I liked… I did like the art of that one, that one was, was really cool.
• 1:03:00
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:03:01
  Tyler Johnson: And so, that one was in the thing that you guys read, right?
• 1:03:05
  Phil: Yeah, yeah, that was just the second story for us.
• 1:03:08
  Tyler Johnson: It was the first one in the thing I read. Okay. Well, and then I also… the second one and the one that I was reading is The Zombies That Ate the World.
• 1:03:17
  Tyler Johnson: So, that was by Jerry Frizzen, and, again, Guy Davis. So when you talk about Guy Davis' artwork, and you talk about, for me, look, man, what's the word? You know, like, you talk… he was self-taught.
• 1:03:35
  Tyler Johnson: Okay, this is not a knock-on guide.
• 1:03:39
  Tyler Johnson: But it shows that he was self-taught.
• 1:03:42
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah. Because of the way he chooses to do things, and…
• 1:03:46
  Phil: So you don't.
• 1:03:47
  Tyler Johnson: I feel like when you're a really good artist, you know what rules you can break to create your own style.
• 1:03:52
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:03:53
  Tyler Johnson: with Guy, I feel like he never learned the rules, and we've all just accepted, like, oh, that's just his style, you know? It's not good, but…
• 1:04:03
  Phil: I disagree! See, I mean, as far as… as far as goodness, like, it's one of those things where, like, yeah…
• 1:04:09
  Tyler Johnson: Here's what I.
• 1:04:09
  Phil: It's not… Well, he… I think you're absolutely right in that he's not, like.
• 1:04:14
  Phil: from that, like… I agree that his work does look self-taught, in the sense that, like, okay, he clearly came at it from a different angle than most people who learn anatomy and cartooning and stuff.
• 1:04:28
  Phil: But, like, the crunchiness is part of what I love about it. Like, it's got so much character and charisma in his linework that, like…
• 1:04:36
  Phil: like, you know, cause there's other… there's other… I mean, like, this, this, that would be, like…
• 1:04:41
  Tyler Johnson: Is there a new series that he's doing, like, Ash and something, on Keen Spot?
• 1:04:48
  Phil: Oh, man, I haven't… I haven't heard of that, I'm not aware.
• 1:04:51
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, but anyway…
• 1:04:55
  Phil: Imagine if I said Jeff Lemire has a not-good art style, you know?
• 1:05:00
  Tyler Johnson: Jeff Lemire, though, is… here's the thing, I… I am the same way about guys who are like, oh, I'm an awesome musician, but I never learned how to read. I'm like, well, then you're not an awesome musician.
• 1:05:12
  Tyler Johnson: Good.
• 1:05:13
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:05:13
  Tyler Johnson: I, I, I, I find it to be, I find…
• 1:05:17
  Tyler Johnson: I'm not saying everyone needs to be trained.
• 1:05:22
  Tyler Johnson: But I feel like,
• 1:05:25
  Tyler Johnson: We don't… and I don't mean this about Guy, I just mean this in general.
• 1:05:30
  Tyler Johnson: I'm not a fan of celebrating, people who,
• 1:05:37
  Tyler Johnson: Not necessarily learn on their own.
• 1:05:41
  Tyler Johnson: but then have this chip on their shoulder that, like, they're… they're so good, they don't even know how to, you know, do blah blah blah, and look what they can do. I'm like…
• 1:05:51
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, but what do you think they could do if they learned the proper techniques?
• 1:05:55
  Phil: I think… I definitely agree that, ignorance shouldn't be celebrated.
• 1:06:02
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, I mean, that's the way I'm…
• 1:06:04
  Phil: I know, and I think…
• 1:06:05
  Tyler Johnson: The guy is bad.
• 1:06:06
  Phil: Right, right. I agree with you that I think people who are like, I can only read guitar tabs, I can't read sheet music, like, yeah, that's a little bit… that's a little bit ignorant, you know? And maybe you shouldn't brag about that, but, like, that's… there's a huge difference between that and, like.
• 1:06:21
  Phil: self-teaching, you know? And, like, learning from doing and those sorts of stuff, you know? Like, I think that people who find their own way into an art form, like.
• 1:06:33
  Phil: there's a difference between, oh, I just… I did what I… what I could, and, like.
• 1:06:39
  Phil: oh, I am actively shunning,
• 1:06:43
  Phil: an aspect of the work, you know? Like, it's… it's a bit different. But I see what you're saying.
• 1:06:49
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, but you're right, though, Jeff Vermeer also has a loose style,
• 1:06:55
  Tyler Johnson: But, anyway, the third, one that I picked was in… in what I wrote, it was number 6 in the lineup. Who's Dreaming Now? This was Alejandro Jodorowsky, from The Inkl, and then, art with Jeromeo Pena.
• 1:07:13
  Phil: Hell yeah.
• 1:07:13
  Tyler Johnson: It's really, really psychological, short little piece that, you know, really…
• 1:07:18
  Tad Eggleston: This is… this is one of the reasons why I'm trying to figure out what you read, because…
• 1:07:22
  Phil: I wanna read that story!
• 1:07:26
  Tyler Johnson: Okay, I will… I will send it to you guys. I gotta… I think I…
• 1:07:28
  Tad Eggleston: Because it's…
• 1:07:29
  Tyler Johnson: Finding the thing on my phone.
• 1:07:30
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know that stuff.
• 1:07:31
  Tyler Johnson: I bet.
• 1:07:32
  Tad Eggleston: And I love Joe Dorowski.
• 1:07:33
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:07:34
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, okay, I'll send it… I'll send you what I read.
• 1:07:38
  Tyler Johnson: sometimes, you know, when I'm doing things like spur of the moment, like last night, like, trying to fit in my reading while I'm working, I'm sorry it's, like, not the right one, but they're good stories, they were really good. This was, Exploring Joy.
• 1:07:50
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and that's okay, because the overall idea was to just…
• 1:07:55
  Tad Eggleston: talk about metal or a lot.
• 1:07:57
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, the downside being that I think that this story might not be in the Humble Bundle, but that's not reason not to get the Humble Bundle.
• 1:08:06
  Tyler Johnson: Correct, it's probably not, because I went off on my own.
• 1:08:10
  Tyler Johnson: path, but… This was a very psycho… dark psychological short piece that, like.
• 1:08:16
  Tyler Johnson: it's mind-bending, you know what I mean? And it explores his, you know, normal…
• 1:08:23
  Tyler Johnson: trademark of, like, psychological consciousness, shifting identity, that kind of crap. I shouldn't call it crap, but that kind of stuff. And I find it really exciting. And then, of course, I love Jerome's artwork all the way back from, like, X-Force stuff.
• 1:08:39
  Tyler Johnson: Being an X-Force fan, and an X-Men. So…
• 1:08:44
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, I loved it. And I am gonna go back and read that version of Metal Ehlont that you sent us, Tad.
• 1:08:52
  Phil: Well, so I think… I would… I would guess that… because there was also a Jerome Opena story in the volume we read, so I… I would guess that maybe that was before X-Force, because X-Force came out in, like, the…
• 1:09:06
  Phil: 2010s? Like, late 2009, 2010? Yes. Yeah, so…
• 1:09:10
  Tyler Johnson: It was, it was, yeah, but I have never read any of this stuff, so…
• 1:09:14
  Phil: Oh, yeah.
• 1:09:17
  Phil: This is where…
• 1:09:18
  Tyler Johnson: Anywho…
• 1:09:18
  Phil: Bo Pena did, sorry, you go ahead, Tad.
• 1:09:22
  Tad Eggleston: No, no, that's, that, that's cool. I, I, I, I…
• 1:09:27
  Tad Eggleston: I will quickly, photo taker, you already talked about… talked about. I like the humor of that.
• 1:09:33
  Tad Eggleston: The one that I really like the humor of, and I'm surprised… I guess, like, I'm less surprised now that I discovered that Tyler didn't read it. Shame on You by Francois
• 1:09:48
  Tad Eggleston: book.
• 1:09:50
  Phil: I like.
• 1:09:50
  Tad Eggleston: It seems like a… yeah, overall, it seems like a very, very, down-to-earth, like…
• 1:10:00
  Tad Eggleston: Following the paths of a couple old people just walking through their days, but then… then it finishes with the joke of following their paths, and their paths
• 1:10:12
  Tad Eggleston: Created dirty drawings.
• 1:10:14
  Phil: Right, oh my gosh.
• 1:10:16
  Tad Eggleston: And that was just fun. Phototaker, like I said, you talked about. I picked out King's Crown, not because King's Crown in and of itself was great,
• 1:10:27
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I thought it was very good, but Richard Corbin and his… Fantastic painted art.
• 1:10:34
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah. It's been a major feature of metal Erland and, and, and heavy metal.
• 1:10:41
  Phil: So good.
• 1:10:42
  Tad Eggleston: So I wanted to… I wanted to pick… yeah, I wanted to pick Adam Corbin.
• 1:10:48
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah, I still think for next week, you guys should pick… A volume that's not…
• 1:10:56
  Tad Eggleston: metal or launch.
• 1:10:58
  Tad Eggleston: And, or, I mean, we can do it one of two ways,
• 1:11:05
  Tad Eggleston: You guys can pick a volume that we can all read and talk about, or all three of us can pick a single volume.
• 1:11:14
  Tad Eggleston: From… from the, the… the heavy metal… Humble Bundle.
• 1:11:21
  Tad Eggleston: and talk about it individually. Either way, but… but I… I wanna, I wanna spend another week highlighting
• 1:11:30
  Tad Eggleston: This Humble Bundle, just because it's… it's such a good one.
• 1:11:35
  Tad Eggleston: And… and I… I feel like…
• 1:11:44
  Tad Eggleston: like, the comics and manga crowd don't cross over nearly enough, but the… but the comics and Band-Aid to Snee crowd…
• 1:11:53
  Tad Eggleston: Really don't cross over enough.
• 1:11:58
  Tad Eggleston: So… like, I think it would be great to explore Explore some more of this.
• 1:12:06
  Tad Eggleston: while it's available at a low price, and again, like, I'm hoping that since it says Universes Unbound Part 1, that…
• 1:12:15
  Tad Eggleston: That will mean that… We're actually getting…
• 1:12:22
  Tyler Johnson: She wants to say goodbye.
• 1:12:23
  Tad Eggleston: Hi, Reyna.
• 1:12:24
  Phil: Good morning.
• 1:12:25
  Tad Eggleston: That, that we'll actually be getting more of these in short order.
• 1:12:30
  Tad Eggleston: Which would be really great. So, we'll see.
• 1:12:36
  Tad Eggleston: But and maybe you guys will get so hooked that you'll start coming to Heavy Metal Book Club.
• 1:12:42
  Tyler Johnson: I carry it in the store,
• 1:12:45
  Tad Eggleston: Do you?
• 1:12:45
  Tyler Johnson: In my store.
• 1:12:46
  Tyler Johnson: I should.
• 1:12:48
  Tad Eggleston: Just the heavy metal, or the Metal Erlant as well? Because Metal Erlant is coming out in…
• 1:12:53
  Tad Eggleston: Single, big, thick, 250-page issues.
• 1:12:58
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 1:12:59
  Tyler Johnson: No, no, I've just been getting the current heavy metal issues that have been coming out.
• 1:13:03
  Tad Eggleston: The current heavy metal is very good. Right now, I think I lean just slightly towards metal. Erlant is putting out the better stuff right now. They both rebooted this year after going through financial difficulties.
• 1:13:18
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 1:13:19
  Tyler Johnson: Well, I will get Metal Erlant, on my, order as well. I'm putting in my stuff for.
• 1:13:24
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I don't, I don't know…
• 1:13:26
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know if it's available through any of the easy distributors, like whether you.
• 1:13:32
  Tyler Johnson: I know.
• 1:13:33
  Tad Eggleston: that out.
• 1:13:35
  Tyler Johnson: Probably.
• 1:13:35
  Tad Eggleston: Never.
• 1:13:36
  Tyler Johnson: grants, right? Or where… where's it?
• 1:13:38
  Tad Eggleston: Bye.
• 1:13:40
  Tad Eggleston: No, it's a U.S. version. It's a US version. It is.
• 1:13:43
  Tyler Johnson: Okay, okay, okay.
• 1:13:45
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I have a personal subscription.
• 1:13:48
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:13:49
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, you do? Okay.
• 1:13:50
  Tad Eggleston: Anyway, we…
• 1:13:53
  Phil: buy the Humble Bundle and print out…
• 1:13:57
  Tyler Johnson: Don't do it like me and go looking for your own version.
• 1:14:02
  Tad Eggleston: All right, three books I hope will be spectacular. Despite the fact that it's a fifth week and a light week next week, there's some really good stuff. Is Tad Okay? Number 6, wrapping up the series from Dave Chisholm at Mad Cave.
• 1:14:19
  Tad Eggleston: kind of a sleeper pick. I really enjoyed the Eye Collector number one, and the second issue from Jonathan Ball, and GMB.
• 1:14:28
  Tad Eggleston: Comichock comes out from Image next week, and then, Nano number 1 from Matt Kent and Natasha Ustos at Dark Horse.
• 1:14:39
  Tad Eggleston: I'm looking at my…
• 1:14:40
  Tyler Johnson: I'm looking at my lunar… my lunar receipt right here, Tad, and I have got iCollector number 2 highlighted that, as a must-read, so…
• 1:14:50
  Phil: Nice.
• 1:14:51
  Tad Eggleston: There you go.
• 1:14:52
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:14:53
  Tad Eggleston: Phil, what's your giant-sized trade waiter graphic novel pick?
• 1:14:59
  Phil: that's gonna be Event Horizon Dark Descent from Christian Ward and Tristan Jones over at IDW,
• 1:15:06
  Tyler Johnson: Correct. Picked it, pick a different one.
• 1:15:08
  Phil: What?
• 1:15:09
  Tyler Johnson: I just…
• 1:15:11
  Phil: I mean, I've been wrong before, so…
• 1:15:13
  Tyler Johnson: I'm like, nope.
• 1:15:14
  Phil: Wrong.
• 1:15:16
  Tad Eggleston: Actually, your pick from… your pick… your pick from last week doesn't come out until this week, so, I mean…
• 1:15:21
  Phil: You son of a bee sting, what am I doing?
• 1:15:23
  Tyler Johnson: What was it? I was gone.
• 1:15:25
  Phil: What was my pick? I don't fully.
• 1:15:27
  Tad Eggleston: Our sub-state heart.
• 1:15:29
  Phil: Oh, our sustained heart!
• 1:15:30
  Tad Eggleston: Or sustained heart.
• 1:15:32
  Phil: I need to stop using League of Comic Geeks, they are leading me astray way too often.
• 1:15:37
  Tyler Johnson: You and I both, why do.
• 1:15:38
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:15:38
  Tyler Johnson: all the time.
• 1:15:39
  Phil: Yeah, but, yes, this is…
• 1:15:42
  Tad Eggleston: The later in the month, the later in the month you get, and the more graphic… and more with graphic novels than single issues, like, because League of Comic Geeks is user-supported.
• 1:15:58
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:15:58
  Tad Eggleston: Like, often what gets put up Is whatever's in the catalog.
• 1:16:03
  Tad Eggleston: So if a release date changes, it doesn't necessarily get updated.
• 1:16:08
  Tyler Johnson: Hmm.
• 1:16:09
  Tad Eggleston: Certainly not before the book comes out.
• 1:16:12
  Phil: I just need to cross-reference it with stuff, I guess, I don't know. But this is… I don't remember.
• 1:16:17
  Tad Eggleston: Cross-referencing is good.
• 1:16:19
  Phil: Yeah, I don't remember if it's the first or second series of Event Horizon comics from Christian Ward, but for those who don't know, Event Horizon was a sci-fi horror movie from, I want to say, the late 90s? I definitely saw it, and it was… it was crazy. It's,
• 1:16:35
  Phil: It's actually, like.
• 1:16:38
  Phil: really… it's, like, half the basis of the comic Nameless from Grant Morrison and Chris Burnham. That one's, like, a more…
• 1:16:47
  Phil: like, they increase the psychological aspects, but it's also, like, space horror, crazy stuff. So yeah, so it's a good one.
• 1:16:55
  Tad Eggleston: Alrighty.
• 1:16:56
  Tyler Johnson: also.
• 1:16:57
  Tad Eggleston: Tyler, that's your cue.
• 1:16:59
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, I know. I'm looking… guys, I got these really cute, Hello Kitty Wolverine Deadpool stickers, and I'm trying to decide if I should do a wrap-around on my Deadpool Wolverine motif already.
• 1:17:13
  Phil: I mean, you gotta put at least a few.
• 1:17:14
  Tad Eggleston: palsy.
• 1:17:15
  Phil: You know, you gotta, you gotta, you know, they're on themes, so you gotta put them.
• 1:17:18
  Tad Eggleston: Or just make a new water bottle.
• 1:17:21
  Tad Eggleston: I have two water bottles. What?
• 1:17:24
  Phil: You gotta have a Wolverine water bottle and a Deadpool.
• 1:17:26
  Tad Eggleston: Well, one of them can be for cold, and one of them can be for hot.
• 1:17:31
  Tyler Johnson: What do you guys use for water?
• 1:17:33
  Phil: One…
• 1:17:33
  Tyler Johnson: I'm on a walla. I love this thing.
• 1:17:35
  Phil: Oh, I… I… I have a thermos that I use… overuse, really.
• 1:17:43
  Tyler Johnson: Are you anti-water?
• 1:17:44
  Phil: No, I love water. I mostly drink water.
• 1:17:47
  Tyler Johnson: Just kidding. All right, guys, this has been fun. I like just messing with us and going off on a really stupid tangent. It's been fun. This is 22 Panels. What episode is this, Tad? Let's look. Let's…
• 1:18:01
  Tad Eggleston: Episode number 246, and I want to say 904 overall.
• 1:18:06
  Tyler Johnson: NL4, I think. Yep, total.
• 1:18:08
  Phil: Wow.
• 1:18:09
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, so when you hit 1,000, what should we do?
• 1:18:13
  Phil: He's got plans already.
• 1:18:15
  Tyler Johnson: You have plans?
• 1:18:17
  Phil: You mentioned… you mentioned, that you had one that you were hoping you could get to being 1,000 by the time it happens?
• 1:18:23
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I said it would be cool to hit 1,000 for, like, the 5th anniversary, but if not the 5th anniversary, it'd be kind of cool if it was the baseball roundtable.
• 1:18:33
  Phil: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:34
  Tad Eggleston: Who knows?
• 1:18:35
  Phil: I guess those are plans to 1,000, not after 1,000.
• 1:18:39
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:18:40
  Phil: Yeah.
• 1:18:41
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, we'll figure it out.
• 1:18:42
  Phil: After a thousand, we reboot.
• 1:18:43
  Tad Eggleston: Something will happen.
• 1:18:45
  Phil: 22… panels extremely.
• 1:18:48
  Tad Eggleston: No.
• 1:18:50
  Tyler Johnson: 22 panels after dark.
• 1:18:51
  Phil: That would be kind of fun. We already do 22 panels after dark.
• 1:18:55
  Tyler Johnson: Alright guys, thanks for listening. Tad's gotta shut up so his wife can go back to sleep.
• 1:19:02
  Tyler Johnson: Thanks for listening, and we will catch you guys after the next page. See ya!