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The Fever Report with John Robertson, Michelle Garmon & Mike Hutsell (2.173.2) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back to the Central Indiana Sports Report, fever fans to this week's fever report with John Roberts and Michelle Garmin and special guest, Mike Hutzl, here to talk about what's going on in the fever off season.
1:05
[SPEAKER_03]: If there even really is an off season, if there's gonna be a season at all.
1:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And then talk about some other things like Caitlin's gonna be making her debut with Team USA in March,
1:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Some other stuff, John, is there gonna be a season?
1:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's gonna start the season.
1:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it'll start on time.
1:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, man.
1:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Both sides are just being really petty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're big update for a while was the players didn't think the front office changed their offer enough.
1:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And now they did, and now the players won't change their, it's just,
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[SPEAKER_01]: typical nonsense.
1:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know.
1:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so over it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I already pre-paid for my season tickets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm ready to just give my money back at this point.
1:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what happens.
1:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that's not that exciting, but that's my take.
2:03
[SPEAKER_02]: It just seems to me and you guys can agree or disagree that the players are still not negotiating out of any position of strength whatsoever because their fallback option seems to be evaporating.
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[SPEAKER_02]: isn't launching the way that they hoped the second season.
2:19
[SPEAKER_02]: It was kind of like the XFL.
2:21
[SPEAKER_02]: It was huge at first, but once people watched it and they realized it's just really not that entertaining.
2:27
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of just gone down and I could be wrong on that, but it seems like the ratings have just plummeted and the fallback.
2:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know that the players feel more entitled because there was a growth in the
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[SPEAKER_02]: as if they're just in this huge negotiating power that they want to think that they have, and nothing will kill a leak faster than continued labor strife.
2:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Baseball's gone through it's how many times, and it's
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[SPEAKER_02]: a distant third or fourth now in the national consciousness of sports.
3:07
[SPEAKER_02]: So just when things seem to be going well, you throw in a labor dispute and a league that already wasn't as popular with some people as some mainstream fans, it doesn't seem like this is trending in the right direction.
3:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's delusions of grandeur honestly they see the growth and we know what it is we know it's Caitlin Clark but they don't want to admit that it's Caitlin Clark because you can't believe which is one person I'll give them that that's true but the growth is Caitlin Clark they had their event they're unrivaled event in Philadelphia which they somehow packed the stands and worked out how great their attendance for that was and now they're doing one in New York
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they'll probably try and say how great that one is again.
3:49
[SPEAKER_01]: But I like women's basketball, I like WMBA, but the only time I've turned on Unrivaled at all, and Lexi Hall is in Unrivaled for the record.
3:56
[SPEAKER_01]: This should tell you how much I really don't care about it.
3:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I love Lexi Hall, she's in it, but the only time I turned it on was for the one-on-one tournament because that's actually interesting to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like watching the one-on-one was interesting, three-on-three does nothing for me at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not exciting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could tell it in person attendance all you want.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: fan base that's going to show up and watch, especially if it's something that doesn't happen all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we all know as much as anybody, the money in these leagues is in television.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't see a huge push for a huge unrivaled television package.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And is the WMBA TV package going to go up that much that they deserve six times what they're
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[SPEAKER_02]: what they're making now as it seems to be what they're going for at least six seven times more and you guys probably know this better than me, but they're you're right delusional granders the perfect way to say it.
4:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I just they they think they have all the chips on their side and they're really holding like a two eight off suit right now.
5:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I almost feel like they're holding Caitlin Clark hostage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They know people want to see Caitlin Clark and
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll just make it see you guys can't see her unless you give us what you want to what feels like the other thing with this unrivaled is now that college football goes to the middle of January and next couple years is going to go almost to the end of January and college troops even women's college basketball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The ratings are getting better from our key games and it's a better product than one in rival puts on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like you might I do not see unrivaled
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a WMBA owner, though, if you give them the money they want, wouldn't you put a non-compete clause with us or no other leagues clause in there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will, if you're given them the money that they're asking for or even close to what they're asking for, I'm like, screw it, you can't play it.
5:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, but, so loosely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So do you think that people like Brianna Stewart and the feast of Collier are gonna allow that to happen when they own unrivaled?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it'll be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is going to, it is going to get very interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is, I love it because, and I said this before, I love it because Caitlin Clark is saying so out of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it'll be interesting to see if either side has occurred to ever come to the table and sit and weigh in on it.
6:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree that not compete close and it's wrong, Stewart and call your should not be part of the players association, negotiate team with this because they do have a conflict of interest.
6:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's been evidence since day one, but nobody seems to care.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like they had the loudest voices in the room for the on the players association, so they're going to continue to be there,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like taboo almost to bring it up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have a heard a single player question and at least I haven't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, why wouldn't they be there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can end up getting some sort of if they put a non-compete clause.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can get some sort of revenue windfall from the WNBA to them directly because hey, my product is going to take a hit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because your guys aren't going to allow us to use our players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they can mean negotiating for their own personal gain.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And nobody seems to care.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the frustrating thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like these certain voices or the ones that matter in the land of the W and BA.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're going to allow that to do rail what could be the most important discussion this leagues ever had.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When they do this, and if you put pause on the season, if you lose the season, it hurts you if you start late, it's still kind of hurt you overall.
7:51
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a time that you have got some, you've got some young stars that are entertaining.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know Caitlin Clark puts fans in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Aliah Boston is fun to watch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Paige Becker's is is another really good player Jackie Young.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got some young talented players in the race.
8:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh no, I'm not she probably shouldn't be on the U.S. woman's national team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She might average 12 rebounds because she's going to average 12 misses a game and get her
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[SPEAKER_02]: don't I miss out most importantly don't forget Cameron Brink.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot forget Cameron, right, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you have some of these really young stars.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're going to have some continuing to come out of college ranks and stuff that are good players.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I think they don't have a real good blend of that middle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got their veterans, and then you get these young stars coming out of college.
9:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And there are a few in that middle realm on the,
9:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you somebody who, and I know, John, I know that I don't think you're a big fan, but somebody who I haven't seen a lot of opinions on, and I know she's not playing on the nationals here right now is Asia Wilson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she herself is a big, marketable thing around the world, but you don't see her involved.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that you need, I just think you need a representative,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Era to maybe hash things out and put you don't all want to go in the room together.
9:37
[SPEAKER_00]: That's too many voices, especially I'm a female.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say this you get too many females in a room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're dealing with too many warm homes and they can become a little bit emotional.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But to be a part of the house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did said and I can't I'm a female you guys are just drama females bring drama.
10:02
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that they need to have really more discussions, but I don't, to be honest, I don't really think, fee and sturo want that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they like, you know, this is just run this league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they like that power.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Huts all in a common un-women.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to go to the Central Indian Sports Report HR meeting in the morning, so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Any comment on Cameron breaking her proposed photo magazine, you know, I'm going to support her in whatever endeavor she chooses, because that's the type of person I am on the supportive voice in the room.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate her even putting this up for consideration.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's her choice and I know which side I'm I'm rooting for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll just leave it at that.
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11:24
[SPEAKER_01]: that whole basically season last year where you just had to sit or watch her sit on the sidelines and then get to see her play, but she looks like the cat one from two years ago, which is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a exciting brand of basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to figure you put her in page together on the same team with other people that I only remember who all is on the USA roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be fun to watch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a little I get nervous when we start taking Indiana professional basketball players and putting them in Team USA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just never works out well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so there's a bit of that, but it's going to be whatever, if that's what she wants to do, I support her a good for her, but I just don't want to.
12:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Another Pacers incident.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is exciting just to see her back on the court last year, like he said, but such a wash for her and she'd play and then she'd be there for a couple a week a week and a half and then it seemed like she'd be gone again for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: five or six weeks and then she'd briefly come back and then she was going for the rest of the year and but they were never really allowed to say it was going to be for the rest of the year because the league didn't want people tuning out they wanted to you know leave it up there that she could play if you had tickets to a game and the later in the season but once it finally got out that it was pretty obvious I felt like the last time she got hurt that it was probably she was done so just seeing her back on the court it's good for the game
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[SPEAKER_02]: You said, this has an opportunity to be a team that just kind of really grasp our imagination because you're going to have page and you're going to have Caitlin playing together.
13:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's probably your two biggest stars and are going to be your next, your two biggest stars for the next 10 to 15 years in this league, assuming they actually don't blow it up and allow the anger and hormones in the room like Michelle said to, to rail this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: looking forward to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll draw interest again because just it's kind of been ne, they're they're unrivaled.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not on my radar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There hasn't been a lot to, you know, I'm not a big labor discussion person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm actually excited to see basketball be the lead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Age, I don't know you guys watch that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like walked off the court and the one-be-one pissed off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the new story of like yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she got, who was she playing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I heard she got.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We should grab her.
13:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we should grab her.
13:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we should grab her.
13:52
[SPEAKER_02]: She got her in, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was not, what was it, 11, 2 or something?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And with the thing that's stupid, I don't like the format really because like you get unlimited foul.
14:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's reason why you foul on the floor.
14:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So they don't get their shot.
14:06
[SPEAKER_01]: But then so they called it a foul on the shooting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So every free, there's two points.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that sealed the deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was mad that there wasn't a foul on the floor because she's trying to foul on the floor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's whatever I don't know, but she, it's gonna be fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just take those two people though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be fiery, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna, we're gonna get fiery, competitive, Caitlin Clark with fiery, competitive page.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be exciting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I can't think of any two bigger stars in the WMB right now, opening night at Indianapolis is page and Dallas at the fever and tickets are expensive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just because that's who it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost thought about selling mine, but my daughter told me no we're going so we're going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm just saying, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are the two biggest stars and they'll be playing together in the USA team and that'd be cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much people care about Fibba basketball outside of the Olympic years, but we'll see what the draw is.
15:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this will help it draw more interest, I promise.
15:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
15:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
15:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when I looked at that roster, I actually thought it was kind of a nice roster young like that.
15:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be interested to see how copper does I saw in the Olympics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's in a tremendous defender and a good player, but I also know she can be a little personality is not always the best dramatic hormonal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, in part of it, just might be because she plays, she, during the WNBACs and she plays for the Mercury.
15:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Phoenix Mercury, I think their nickname fit that group last year.
15:45
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think, John?
15:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I thought they were pretty McCurray.
15:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't really say that word very well at times on the court.
15:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like that team, so whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's a call of the Phoenix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was so... You called the Phoenix assholes as far as I'm concerned, because I'm...
16:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they got hot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had attitudes and they were kind of dirty.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So they made us cheer from some teams that we didn't like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's how much.
16:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just looked the opening night just to get in the absolute top of the top of the bleachers is 115.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I suppose Caitlin Clark had nothing to do with that WNBA.
16:28
[SPEAKER_01]: You can go to the Dallas versus fever, preseason game for 25 bucks, but that even seems like a lot for a W&B a preseason game, though.
16:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Cause you got to remember, it was so accurate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the league that two, three years ago where you could legitimately ask somebody in the city, would you rather find a $5 bill on the ground or your W&B a team when a championship and everybody was gonna take the $5 bill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, my daughter and I got tickets to a game
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[SPEAKER_01]: back in like 2019 or 2020.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds about right.
17:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was lower bowl, because they didn't even open up the balcony for a fever games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My niece played a game there with her high school team, and it was one of those where if you played before the game, you got to stay for the game and not a lot of people were asking to stay for the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope we have a season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe maybe the fever will get fine for tanking.
17:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?
17:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?
17:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the the other thing about it is is like you, you could do your reprobable damage here to your league and your product.
17:43
[SPEAKER_02]: If you miss a season, if you think about the NHL and the missing an entire season and how long it's taken, if they've never really bounced back from that, it's been so far off the nationals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: sub conscience of sports in the US.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's number four by a lot and baseball with all it's issues.
18:05
[SPEAKER_02]: It is had it took it took a bunch of guys jacking themselves up on steroids to get that sport back in the 90s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're about to get them a choir.
18:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So, so that doesn't happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't get it.
18:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're probably going to, they're probably about to do it.
18:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a delayed season a couple of years ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's looking like the next time the CBA is up, it's going to happen again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the next time it doesn't look like the teams are going to be necessarily as quick to fold.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So nothing will kill a league and it's moment of faster than labor discussion because at the end of the day, you've got four people sitting on this call right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: who are listening to people playing basketball, complaining about not making $1.5 million to play basketball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that just doesn't resonate with the average fan.
18:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And people don't want to hear it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't want to think about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They want to take their kids to enjoy like John does with his.
19:03
[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing more deadly to a pro sports league than labor strength.
19:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know what, Mike, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the other thing, if they miss a season, if they miss half a season, the players aren't gonna get what they want because that's lost revenue for the WNBA.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They haven't been a money-making league and they haven't even been a break even league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you're not, I don't think it's to the players advantage at all to hold out and demand
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[SPEAKER_00]: what they think is equivalent to what the men get.
19:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And because they're not there yet.
19:44
[SPEAKER_00]: They, you know, yes, Caitlyn draws the fans, some of them, but overall, they don't draw that attention, the revenue.
19:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And you've got a, I will say this.
20:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I do think they do deserve to make more a little bit more in what they do.
20:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And it would be nice if they can make, although I'm still the fuddled that you can make six figures a year and still think you have to go overseas to play basketball in the off season.
20:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
20:16
[SPEAKER_00]: John, when you like to make six figures a year?
20:20
[SPEAKER_01]: No comment.
20:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, to play basketball?
20:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that'd be great.
20:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I love to make six figures a year to play basketball, but
20:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
20:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think the values of the teams have gone up, but I think the valuation of the league has gone up, so the players aren't wrong to want a little more.
20:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with that whole article.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, they're asking for a lot, and they're asking for what percentage of ownership of the league that the league doesn't even have because they had to sell so much percentage of the ownership of the league to investors years ago just to keep it afloat.
20:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So they just don't have it.
20:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
20:57
[SPEAKER_01]: There's just a lot going on.
21:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm tired of hearing about it to be honest with you.
21:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just over it.
21:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Just tell me if we're gonna have a season or not.
21:05
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the realistic time frame though, John?
21:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know this.
21:09
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got to have an expansion draft.
21:10
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got to have the draft itself is usually right after the women's college season, right?
21:17
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's gonna be, that's a month from now.
21:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they got to get it done quick because you got to do that.
21:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And then again, I'm not even a fan of the expansion drafts.
21:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're expanding too fast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to make it hard to care about teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that I think everybody on both sides of this is doing everything they can to screw up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What?
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[SPEAKER_01]: is potentially the first time that I have the opportunity to successful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, I'm with the guys right in the bike and he sticks a stick in the tire and kills it himself and falls over and blames everybody else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the picture of what's gonna happen with the WMBA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think if they don't manage this right, we've got three or four awesome years of exciting basketball and then it's back to nobody cares again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that Adam Selvers says that as of today, they are at next level urgency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think they've been at next level, urgency for a couple of weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's not pretend to kid ourselves that Adam Silver knows what he's talking about when it comes to running a league and all this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, or that he even knows what is prior, that even knows how to put the priorities correct straight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They may be brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That dude looks like an alien.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's too podcast today where we've talked that Adam Silver needs to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he does.
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[SPEAKER_03]: terrible terrible David Stearns coat tails for a while so it seemed like he was okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you make Roger Gdell look smart you are doing something and I would take Roger Gdell over out of silver.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I give him credit for one thing that guy and I don't know how he did it got more money on his Sunday NBA deal from NBC then the NFL got from NBC.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean they negotiated
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[SPEAKER_02]: A TV contract that I just don't have any idea how it made any financial sense for the networks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Other than live sports is about the only thing that is consistently good at ratings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they held onto that and they, they're making a ton of money off TV and the product itself is kind of falling apart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well yeah, they won't make as much in the next contract time, because they're ratings aren't as good as what the NFL draws are all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're in the right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, but hey, credit to them, they pulled the wool over the eyes of some of these networks and got way more money than they probably deserved out of this latest TV contract.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, they're still going to be flush with cash, good on them, but man, silver's bad at his job.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We will probably put a pause on the favorite report until there is some news, or Team USA begins, but hopefully, by next week, last news, in the favorite report, we'll begin again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Once we have the dates for the expansion draft, we can start speculating the holes.
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