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Wired To Hunt Podcast #113: The Summer Deer Hunting Prep Work You (And We) Need To Do · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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  Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. In this episode number one thirteen,
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  Speaker 1: tay the show, Dan and I are discussing the most
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  Speaker 1: important summer preparations you and we need to take care
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  Speaker 1: of before hunting season arrives. All right, welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Sitka Gear.
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  Speaker 1: Today it's just Dan and I and we're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: chatting about out summer deer hunting preparations. We're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: through what Dan and I are currently working on, as
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  Speaker 1: well as some additional recommendations for you know, all the
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  Speaker 1: different things that you and we should be thinking about
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  Speaker 1: and working on during these summer months leading up to
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  Speaker 1: hunting seasons. So that's the plan for the next hour
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  Speaker 1: or two. Dan, what do you think about that? Hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about summer prep. Yeah, I mean, it's uh,
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  Speaker 1: what beginning of August, So hopefully most of us have
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  Speaker 1: already been working on things, but if not, this is
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  Speaker 1: like that final month to really get things done. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I always try, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with an October one opener in Michigan, my goal has
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  Speaker 1: always have everything done by the end of August, so
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  Speaker 1: that all September the property is untouched. Is kind of
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  Speaker 1: the way I approach it. Um. So that means for me,
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  Speaker 1: the next thirty days are gonna be super busy. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And that's exactly that is exactly what I I call
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  Speaker 1: September my layoff period. And I don't I try. I
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  Speaker 1: not to go into the timber Um to do anything
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  Speaker 1: except maybe check a trail camera if I'm in the area.
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  Speaker 1: But it tries to try to lay off the property
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  Speaker 1: as much as possible. Yeah, it can be. It can
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  Speaker 1: be tough, right, I mean, that is the time when
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  Speaker 1: we're so excited to get out there and see what's
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  Speaker 1: moving around and try to put together planned But I
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  Speaker 1: really think it's important if you can to let that
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  Speaker 1: property sit hunter and you know, hunting pressure free for
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  Speaker 1: a while. Rum. I think it makes a big difference.
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  Speaker 1: You know, even in a perfect world, you would leave
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  Speaker 1: it sitting for months. I mean, some people get all
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  Speaker 1: their work done and May or June or July and
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  Speaker 1: let it sit for a while. I've never been able
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  Speaker 1: to be that good. But yeah, I'm trying to get better.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I tell you. You know, one
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  Speaker 1: one way to lay off your hunting property for an
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  Speaker 1: entire month is have two children. And I thought that
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  Speaker 1: might be where this is going. They they're they're very
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  Speaker 1: good at keeping you busy and not on white tail
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  Speaker 1: hunting related Uh you know activities, dude, there's always a
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  Speaker 1: silver lining, right, that's right, this is this is so,
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  Speaker 1: this is a good thing that the family helps you
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  Speaker 1: from messing yourself up, keeps you from messing yourself up, exactly,
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  Speaker 1: you know they they I like how I like how
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  Speaker 1: we're turning this into a positive. Right. They helped me
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  Speaker 1: not check my trail cameras as much as I want
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  Speaker 1: to help you overhunt tree stands exactly. They helped me, uh,
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  Speaker 1: stay out of good spots until I actually, you know,
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  Speaker 1: get vacation time for the rug because I literally can't
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  Speaker 1: hunt the property. Thanks, honey, man, I'm sorry. Oh it's cool.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it works itself out. And you know, I
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  Speaker 1: got some properties, I got some side properties. I'll put
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  Speaker 1: it to you that way that I'm gonna be able
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  Speaker 1: to base you know this year, Um, so far on
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  Speaker 1: the trail cameras. I haven't had anything what I would
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  Speaker 1: consider a shooter, but lots of does. And uh, that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be my mess around property that if I want
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  Speaker 1: to go sit in a tree stand, I'm not too
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  Speaker 1: worried about messing anything up. Now, this is a property
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about yet. This is a new one. No,
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  Speaker 1: this is one that I only hunted one time last
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  Speaker 1: year and I wasn't able to spend a lot of
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  Speaker 1: time on it, but because I was on my buddies
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  Speaker 1: chasing that bigger buck. But this is just a property,
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  Speaker 1: uh close to my house. It's only within like a
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  Speaker 1: ten minute drive from my house, and I got access
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  Speaker 1: to it. I got some trail cameras up right now,
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  Speaker 1: and I haven't been there and going on three weeks now,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna have to try to make a trip
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  Speaker 1: out there this weekend to go and check some trail cameras. Again. Nice,
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  Speaker 1: So okay, we've got we have I don't like twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven days or something left in the month, give or take.
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  Speaker 1: What tent of the way are you done with your
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  Speaker 1: summer deer work? If you had to guess, I mean
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  Speaker 1: less than probably thirty really, Yeah, because here's what I need,
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  Speaker 1: here's what I need to do before the season even starts, right,
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  Speaker 1: and this is just a high level list and so
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  Speaker 1: and like we said, this is before September. So basically
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  Speaker 1: you've got three and a half weeks, right, three and
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  Speaker 1: a half weeks. My goal is to get all this
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  Speaker 1: stuff done before September one. Um, set up one, two, three, four, five, six,
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  Speaker 1: three stands uh uh. And then later on in the month,
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  Speaker 1: while I'm doing that, I'm also going to transition my
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  Speaker 1: Troe cameras off of the mineral stations to the pinch
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  Speaker 1: points travel corridors and um what I think are going
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  Speaker 1: to be food sources. And you get three and a
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  Speaker 1: half weeks to do it. Yep. And uh oh, and
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  Speaker 1: I have to finish the food plot that I started, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so that's what you have to do. What I have yep.
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  Speaker 1: So I need to set slash, move two tree stands.
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  Speaker 1: I need to check all of my current stands up
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  Speaker 1: in Michigan, just safety check them and check shooting lanes
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  Speaker 1: for all of them. I need to put in two
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  Speaker 1: and a half food plots, one of which is an
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  Speaker 1: absolute jungle mess right now that things didn't go as
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  Speaker 1: they were as they were supposed to while I was gone,
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  Speaker 1: So now I have to completely redo a food plot essentially. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I have to set up new trail cameras because I
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  Speaker 1: just checked cameras and now have to move them and
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  Speaker 1: reset them. Uh. And I want to get permission on
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  Speaker 1: a couple more pieces here in Michigan because I since
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be hunting in Montana and September, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to be doing a big trip during the rut
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  Speaker 1: other than Ohio, so I'm gonna spend more time in Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: So I want some more spots here. So those are
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  Speaker 1: my big projects here for the next three weeks. Um. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to play some scrape some fake scrape trees.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put in some some of my own customized
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  Speaker 1: where I want them scrape sets. Um And I think
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  Speaker 1: that's it for me. Oh And then I'm also going
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  Speaker 1: to go to Ohio. And We've already done all of
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  Speaker 1: our stand work down there. We checked and cleared out
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  Speaker 1: shooting lanes the spring, so I think I'm all set there.
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  Speaker 1: I just need to check cameras and move them to
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  Speaker 1: pre hunting season spots. Like you said, I move them
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  Speaker 1: off like the mineral stations or the food source and
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  Speaker 1: then put them on areas where I might be getting
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  Speaker 1: pictures leading into October. Um. So those are the things
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  Speaker 1: we're working on. So here's what I want to do, Dan,
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's go through those lists of the things,
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  Speaker 1: all the things we have to do, and let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about that in detail and lay out, Okay, here specifically
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  Speaker 1: what I'm doing in regardsless tree stand Here's why I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing it, Here's how I'm doing it. Um, same thing
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  Speaker 1: for a bunch of these categories. Because you know, as
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about a minute ago off air, we've
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  Speaker 1: never really done a podcast episode where we went through
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  Speaker 1: in detail all the different summer projects that we are
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  Speaker 1: working on and that you know, we'd probably recommend most
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  Speaker 1: people do as they prepare for the season. Um. And
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  Speaker 1: then there's a list a handful of other things I
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  Speaker 1: thought we could talk about that we haven't mentioned right now,
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  Speaker 1: but other things that we're usually doing throughout the summer too. Um.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of how I thought we could spend the
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  Speaker 1: next hour or two. Do you think that's solid idea?
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a solid idea. How about we try
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  Speaker 1: to do it in chronological order of what needs to
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  Speaker 1: be done. First thing, like the very first thing that
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna do, the very first thing that I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to do. That sound good? I like it, all right,
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you start, all right, but real quick before
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  Speaker 1: we do that, we need to pause briefly for our
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  Speaker 1: sickest story of the week, and today story comes from
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  Speaker 1: a sick Gear employee, Garrett Long, And the story today
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  Speaker 1: is about a very special white tail hunt, not because
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  Speaker 1: of a huge deer or some epic encounter, but because
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  Speaker 1: of something much more powerful, a shared experience with a
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  Speaker 1: loved one. So this last year, and probably that my
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  Speaker 1: favorite memory white tail was I got to sit in
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  Speaker 1: the stand with my wife for the first time. And
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really know how she was gonna like tree
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  Speaker 1: stand hunting. It's not for everybody, you know. We can't
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  Speaker 1: talk the whole time, we can't walk, and we saw
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  Speaker 1: some deer coming in and and this stand that we're
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  Speaker 1: sitting in, it's it's not a double stand. So she's
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  Speaker 1: about five feet away from me, so I still can't
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  Speaker 1: really talk to her. And there's a pretty nice buck
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  Speaker 1: in there, and and as they're moving towards us, they
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  Speaker 1: kind of went into a smaller field behind some trees.
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  Speaker 1: We couldn't see him anymore. And at this point I'm thinking, gosh,
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  Speaker 1: this is exciting for her as it is for me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm the one holding the bow, you know. I turned
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  Speaker 1: around to kind of look at her and be like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know where they went, and her eyes got
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  Speaker 1: all big, and I turned around and there was that
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  Speaker 1: deer came out at about twenty yards and we were
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  Speaker 1: lucky enough to get him. But after I shot, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and of course I'm shaking as always, I can't help it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I've probably shot twenty deer out of a
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  Speaker 1: tree stand and I shake like a leaf every time.
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  Speaker 1: And but I look around and and she's holding the
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  Speaker 1: tree in these great big eyes, and you know, she's
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  Speaker 1: kind of shaking a little bit and look at me,
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  Speaker 1: and and uh, that was a big deal to me, because,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, experiences are never as good if you
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  Speaker 1: can't share them. And that was that was a big thing,
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  Speaker 1: knowing that from now on, you know, having your wife
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  Speaker 1: being your hunting partner and having that much excitement, that's
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  Speaker 1: a big deal. That is a big deal. And this
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: was the sick oft story. In fact, if you give
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  Speaker 1: sick a Gear a call. You might get to chat
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  Speaker 1: with Garrett yourself as he works in their customer service department.
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  Speaker 1: And if you'd like to learn more about Sita Gear products,
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  Speaker 1: you can visit Sitka gear dot com. And now let's
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  Speaker 1: get back to the show and discussing our summer prep work. Alright,
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  Speaker 1: so let's see, the first thing I have to deal
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  Speaker 1: with right now is trail cameras, um, simply because that's
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  Speaker 1: something that you know, since I've been gone the last
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  Speaker 1: two months, I haven't been a mess with, but now
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  Speaker 1: I want to try to get back on the horse
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  Speaker 1: with that asap. So yeah, I haven't been all share
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  Speaker 1: any trail camera stories that all all year yet, um,
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  Speaker 1: so I finally have a trail camera check to share.
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  Speaker 1: So so I got back home to Michigan yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: of course, like the first thing I did after dropping
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  Speaker 1: off my bags was tell the wife, Hey, honey, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna go check cameras. So I run out to my
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  Speaker 1: main Michigan property and a couple of things suck. First,
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  Speaker 1: I've got this camera on the other side of the
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  Speaker 1: creek and the bridge washed away, so I had to
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  Speaker 1: just kind of wade across the creek over my boots.
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  Speaker 1: UM number two, I get to this set, and what
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  Speaker 1: I decided on this property was that there's really only
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  Speaker 1: one spot that I've consistently always gotten like great summer pictures.
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  Speaker 1: So in the past I usually had like two or
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  Speaker 1: three cameras spread out across the area. But this year,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I just want to
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  Speaker 1: get pictures in this one spot while I'm gone, and
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  Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that it turns out.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to have just one camera here and
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  Speaker 1: have it screw up. So I actually set two cameras
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  Speaker 1: pointing at the same location, just from different angles, with
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  Speaker 1: hopes that if one of them screwed up, at least
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  Speaker 1: I get some shots on the other one. So I
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  Speaker 1: did that in May. You know, I set these up
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  Speaker 1: on the corner of a bean field that was what
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  Speaker 1: a field that was going to be a bean field,
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  Speaker 1: and UM had them in this kind of inside corner
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  Speaker 1: where the deer always come out of this really thick
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  Speaker 1: betting area and come out to feed in this bean field.
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  Speaker 1: And I cleared all the weeds really really good, trimmed
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  Speaker 1: everything all the way down to the ground, set these
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  Speaker 1: things up at angles that should be great. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: get back check those cameras. One of the cameras UM
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  Speaker 1: was on like a oh you know, a camera stand
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  Speaker 1: type deal, and it was the single post one. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't one of the sticking picks to have like the
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  Speaker 1: three prongs, but this is just one of one of
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  Speaker 1: the single prongers and something hit it and knocked it
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  Speaker 1: over sideways sort of, so you know, I had like
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  Speaker 1: my my pictures are all at like a forty five
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  Speaker 1: degree angle and they also then because of that, we're
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  Speaker 1: behind weeds. So that was frustrating. And the second camera
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  Speaker 1: that was stood up upright just fine with a normal
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  Speaker 1: stick and pick. But despite all of my trimming, when
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  Speaker 1: you leave something for two months, stuff grows and it
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  Speaker 1: still overgrew my camera unfortunately. Was hoping that it wouldn't,
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  Speaker 1: but it did. So. Basically between both cameras, I have
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  Speaker 1: like nothing usable from July. UM note not a single
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  Speaker 1: picture of a buck in July. One of the cameras.
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  Speaker 1: It takes some pictures, but they're all just doze. I
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  Speaker 1: did get pictures in June of some dinks and the
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  Speaker 1: one brand spot as I do have one shooter on
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  Speaker 1: my Michigan property, so excited about that. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I recognize him. I think he's a new buck alright,
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  Speaker 1: So remind us what a Michigan shooter is. Yeah, for me,
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  Speaker 1: a Michigan shooter is you know, at least three this year,
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of up in the game to probably four.
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  Speaker 1: Um it it'll be we'll see. But I'm I really
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  Speaker 1: do want to try to shoot a four year old
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  Speaker 1: here this coming year. Um. But you know, anything over
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  Speaker 1: like one that's three or four in Michigan is going
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  Speaker 1: to get an arrow from me. Okay, this buck, um,
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  Speaker 1: the last picture I have of him is June nineteenth,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, still pretty early growth. But when I
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  Speaker 1: look at what he looked like on June nine, and
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  Speaker 1: do you remember that Buck Leaner that I was at
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of years ago, He was like probably
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  Speaker 1: pushing one forty here in Michigan as a four year
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  Speaker 1: old a couple of years ago. This buck looks just
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  Speaker 1: like that buck except for his size even on like
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  Speaker 1: June twelve, is bigger than what Leaner was on July
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  Speaker 1: four in two thousand comparing pictures. So given that, given
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  Speaker 1: that he's way now, all dear girl or antlers at
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  Speaker 1: slightly different paces. You know. So I could be completely
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  Speaker 1: wrong on this, but given the size of antlers that
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  Speaker 1: he had in the twelve and the nineteenth, I think
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  Speaker 1: he should be like, I don't know, one forties. I
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  Speaker 1: would I think, yeah, I mean I would say one
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  Speaker 1: thirties at a minimum. And you said he's a ten pointer.
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  Speaker 1: He looks using a ten pointer. Um, but given what
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  Speaker 1: he looked like in early June, if he grows in
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  Speaker 1: July the way that a lot of these bucks seemed to,
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  Speaker 1: he should be pretty darn nice. Um song side about that,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's about I know, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: so new new interesting deer here, and you never know,
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  Speaker 1: he might not stick around for a hunting season. But um,
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  Speaker 1: that's the one thing I'm excited about. So now I
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  Speaker 1: just have to go out there and repossession these cameras
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  Speaker 1: re you know, get everything up and going with batteries
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  Speaker 1: and all that. Um. So that's the one that's actually
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  Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do probably the next day or two,
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  Speaker 1: is just get those things set up, put a couple
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  Speaker 1: more cameras out, try to blank at these Michigan properties. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And then after that tree stands. Yeah, do you want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about tree stands. You wanna talk about your
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  Speaker 1: tree stand projects. First, well, I tell you, before I
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  Speaker 1: even do any of that, I got to finish a
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  Speaker 1: food plot and uh so I had, um, my buddy
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  Speaker 1: had this old it's the previous owner had a garden
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  Speaker 1: there and this is where I missed my big buck
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  Speaker 1: last year. All right, so in this little area by
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  Speaker 1: this this gardening shed. So what we did was we
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  Speaker 1: ripped out this fence that enclosed this garden. Um, I
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  Speaker 1: left two wooden poles up there that I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: turn into that. There was a gate that was hung
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  Speaker 1: on these poles. I'm gonna turn that into you horizontal rub.
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  Speaker 1: And then I sprayed. Already I sprayed the yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: the day before, so I guess Monday and Tuesday and then, um,
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  Speaker 1: what else did I do? What else did I do?
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  Speaker 1: And uh trimmed some overhanging branches so more sun could
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  Speaker 1: get to the plot, to this little area that we
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  Speaker 1: that we did. Now, so I called a rental place
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  Speaker 1: to see if they had a tiller that could have
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  Speaker 1: attack or attached to my buddies. Oh his Camboda tractor
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  Speaker 1: that he's got, and uh he's like, yeah, that'll work.
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  Speaker 1: That'll work, that'll work, And I'm like, are you sure.
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  Speaker 1: He's like yeah. So I called the day talked to
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  Speaker 1: with a different guy and I said, I want to
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: rent it, and he's like, well, what do you got
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  Speaker 1: for a tractor? And I told him. He's like, that
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  Speaker 1: won't fit. So I'm like, well, the other guy told
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  Speaker 1: me for sure. He's like, all right, well, let's go online.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: So we went online. He confirmed it. It's not gonna work.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: So now I'm in a scramble now to try somebody
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: in where I live in eastern Iowa who has like
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: a plot master or something that can break the ground up,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: turn the dirt over and uh um, try to get
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: that done before, you know, within the next couple of weeks,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: because I've already sprayed. I'd like to get it down.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I bought lime, and uh I need to throw some
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: of that out. So you gotta get your buddy John.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Doesn't he have some connections with that kind of implement
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: type stuff. Yeah, he does, but he lives like an
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: hour and a half two hours away from me. Buy
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: him a case of beer. He can't drink beer anymore.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Funny long story I'll tell you later. I just saw
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: him this past week too. I know that's what he said.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: He was hanging out in Bozeman. That's right. Um, well
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: that's exciting though. Man, your first food plot, So have
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: you decided what you're gonna plant there? Right? Yeah? I
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: got I got that white tail institute brass because I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: think you sent me. But I think I'm gonna mix
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: with it. I was told that I should mix clover
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: in with it too. It's not a bad idea. So
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: clover will grow, it will give something, It will give
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: them something to come into. Um, you know mid October
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: when I start hunting it, and then you know, I
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: still have to put a I'm gonna brush in a
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: ground blind um where I can shoot this entire area.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: And I'm pretty you know now that the graph is
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: starting to die and I can visualize what it's gonna
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: look like. It's uh, I'm getting excited about it. I
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: bet yeah. I can definitely relate to that. Now, let
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: me offer you uh an idea. Okay. The one thing
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I would caution about mixing clover with brassicas is that
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: brass because are really big and leafy and they grow
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: established really fast. So what could happen is if you
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: plant brass because the way you would typically plant them. Um,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: those things are gonna leaf over and cover up that
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: clover like immediately right, the clover is gonna get no sun.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna split it in half. There you go. That's
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and stuff I got. I'm gonna probably split it in half.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: And it's it's probably I mean, it's probably a half
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: acre in total of maybe even maybe a little less,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: but it's a decent sized food plot. And uh, I
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: think the majority of it will probably go in Nebraska's
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: just so you know they don't eat it right away
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: and over graze it because there is quite a few
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: deer in that area. Um, and I don't want that
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: to happen. So I want to be there when that
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: first frost hits. You know, the next couple of days
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: they start to find it and they're like, Okay, this
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: is the this is the food plot, now you know
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: what I mean. And they're going to put the feedbag
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: on and you're gonna have your pilot that thing, right
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: and then I you know, that's that same tree stand
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: area though you know, I think I talked to you
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: about it, uh, either in earlier episode or over the
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: phone where that wind Yeah, the wind shifts back and
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: forth the entire hunt. So that's why I think I
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: need to get a ground blind in there to help
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: at least control that a little bit. Yeah, are you
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: thinking like just like a cloth pop up blind or
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: you're building like a box blind or something or no,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: it'll be uh, it'll be I think I don't even
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: know what brand it is, but just like your regular
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: pop up line. Yeah, Oh that's exciting. I'll tell you what.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: There's you know, like we've talked about I think last
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: episode of the episode before. You know, it's so cool
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: to be able to hunt properties where you just need
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: to figure out the deer, and then it's really cool
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: to also have the opportunity to do habitat improvements and
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: like be able to manipulate things and see how the
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: deer react to that. Um. Both are really cool, but
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: there is something special about being able to do this
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: type of thing, Like the first time you sit that
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: food plot. ILL tell you what, the first time you
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: sit there and you watch dear feet out, it'll just
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: be the coolest thing, Like watching the deer enjoy that
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: food plot, use it um and you know whether or
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: not you see or kill anything. A buck on it.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: You know, just seeing deer and animals out there is
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: very very like fulfilling. Um. I I will shoot the
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: very first dough that comes onto that food plot that
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: when I hunt it, you want to make it happen. Huh, I, well,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it's it's just something cool because I put in a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: lot of work, a lot of energy, and uh no
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: one really told me how expensive food plots are. And
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I'm doing it by hand, right, all the stuff I'm
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: doing by hands. So what are your costs? Just the
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: fertilizer or stuff. The fertilizer the I spent sixty bucks on, Uh,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: we'd killer because we've killed costs round up. Um, the
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: line was cheap, you know, I had. I got a
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty pounds for like ten bucks. But the
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: fertilizer is gonna be like forty five two to sixty bucks.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: On top of that, that's a hundred you know, that's
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: a so that's a total of you know, I don't
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I can't do math. Yeah, so that's gonna be over
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty dollars, you know. And then by
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the time I find something to rent that's gonna tear
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: this dirt up that's gonna be another hundred, you know,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: So that's three D. That's three D four hundred dollars
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: maybe on a on a small plot. And I got
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the seed for free, right so um, and then the
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: labor that's involved in it. I mean that's fifty bucks.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: That's a that's an ELK tag, you know, that's a
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: that's a tag in a different state. That's you know,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of that's you could do a lot
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: of things. But so when that first deer, I'm cashing in.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: When that first do I understand, I understand that the
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: desire to do that, that's for sure. It's worth it.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: It's worth it. Um. Although I gotta say when you
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: when you talk, when you talk about that, look at
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: something like Lee and Tiffany, who have like five hundred
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: acres of food plots. Can you imagine the costs they
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: put into that? What cost? Well, they probably get all
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: that for free. I hope they do, because if not,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that that's some serious money, right. But there are guys
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: out there who, yeah, put in a ton of food
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: plots and they don't get the discs, they don't get
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: the industry discounts. Yeah, it definitely helps have ever talked
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: about the Bell curve of hunting before. You've mentioned it before,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: but enlighten us, it's this, it's this funny thing I
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: discovered at one point. Um. You know, when you first
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: start hunting, right, you are just getting into it. You
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: just have some random stuff. You're Dan Johnson. You wear
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: like a hooded sweatshirt, jeans and like you throw a
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: spear that kind of thing. Um, So you're not spending
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of money yet. Then you get into a
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: little bit more. You're moving up the bell curve. You know,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the bell curve looks like right right, it's just like
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you know, half an egg going up up, up like
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: a roller coaster and then it comes back down. So
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: you're moving up into the right. Is you go up
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: into the right you know on the on the gosh,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: what's that the X axis if you're thinking of a chart,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: at the X acts say, is like how into hunting
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: you are, and the Y access the up and down access.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: That's how much money you spend on hunting. So as
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: you go more into being more into hunting, now you
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: want a new bow, you want new tree stands, you
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: want new camouflage. So now you're spending more and more money.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: This whole thing came around because this is what I
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: tried to tell my wife when I was spending so
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: much money on honey. Was like, honey, honey, the bell
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: curve of hunting. I'm working my way up. So as
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: you continue getting more and more into hunting, you spend
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: more and more money until you reach this point where
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: some company is willing to give you something for free,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and then your costs go down a little bit. And
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: then as you continue to get more and more hunting,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you get a little bit more free stuff, and then
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: your costs start going down. So if anyone ever complains
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: about how much money they're spending on hunting, or their
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: wives are telling them that, you just can tell them
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I'm moving on the bell curve. Someday I'll get better.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: That's been what I've tried to convince my wife of
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: at least. So is she what what she said? Did
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: she just ignore you? She basically, yeah, it ignores me,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: shakes her head, tells me I'm an idiot, right, But
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: what I would like to know is, with that bell curve,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: does the you know, the further the more you get
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: into hunting, does your success rate for harvest actually go
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: up with that. That's a great question, I said, probably
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: various for everyone. Yeah, I don't know if it I
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: don't know if it necessarily does or not. No, if
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: you listen to this podcast, hopefully it does. Hopefully we
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: are that inflection point. But what the heck was that about.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: There's something I was going to talk about before I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: get sidetracked with my stupid bell curve. Um, I don't
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: even know your hunting man. I was about deer hunting,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: but food plots. We talked about food plots. Oh, you know.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I won't get into the details of what I need
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: to do on mind still, but it's just weed issues
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: is my big thing yet. Yeah, well, you know, so
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I've got these two big food plots on my main
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Scream property, but they're an annuals so I have to
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: replant them every late summer. So what that meant for
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: me the spring was I sprayed everything so it would
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: be dead. And then, um, I was trying to get
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: someone to come again in July or so, or late
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: June or July while I was gone, spread all a
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: second time so that it was still debts. Anything new
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: that grew up while I was gone would be dead.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I'd be able to come back here in August. When
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I got here, disk get up myself plant m V
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: a piece of cake. Um well, I first tried to
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: hire someone to do it while I was gone. They
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: said they couldn't do it, kind of last minute, so
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I found a friend to help out. I really really
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: appreciate him helping me out and spraying stuff. But he
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: missed a very substantial portion of one of the food plots.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I don't I haven't even talked to him about it yet.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he just didn't realize that was
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: part of the food plot or what. Um, but like
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: two thirds of my main food plot, like where I
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: killed my buck last year, that is like five ft
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: tall weeds like an acre and a half. So like
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I walked in there yesterday and like almost wanted to cry. So,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: if this guy is listening to the podcast right now,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: do not answer your phone with marketing and calls. No,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I'll just curse him out once and then'll be No.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate him helping me at all, but um
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: but yes, and now I've got to find someone who
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: has a mower then come and mow it all down.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: And then I gotta get rid of all that extra vegetation,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: spray it all again, and then go for the whole process.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: So you know it's a process. But what are what's
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: a date that you're looking to have your seed in
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: the ground and just wait for the rain and it's
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: time to grow. So all my planning dates revolver on
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the rain. So I wait until I see a good
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: day of rain, or more hopefully a couple of days
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: of rain, but I will I only plant like the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: night before rain. You always want that rain to come
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: as soon as possible after you plan. So ideally though,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I'd like to plant my brassicas in like did mid August.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: It would be a deal. And then my oats because
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I'm doing half oats half breasts because those will be
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: probably that last week in August. So perfect world, I'd
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: like my Braskas in the ground by August fifteen and
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: my oats in the ground by like August or something. Okay,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: So if the weather cooperates, that's what I'll be doing.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I got some time, then, yeah, yeah, you got some time. Um,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: it can't hurt, you know, to get in a little earlier.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't be the end of the world. If it's
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: a little later, but just somewhere in that time from
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: um the best I've gotten them in, you know, like
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: August tenth or something like that, and they're just big
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and lush and awesome by the time obtow our first
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: rolls around. Um, that's that's pretty ideal because then it's
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: got a lot of time to grow those tubers. You know,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: if you've got some radishes or turn ups or anything
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: in there in your mix, which on which the winter
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: greens do have turn ups and stuff in there, if
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: you get those in a little earlier, you're gonna have
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: more chance for those bulbs to grow. So then not
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: only are they eating leaves up top above the surface,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: but then later in the year they're also di up
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the ground and eating the actual tubers and stuff underneath.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: So right added food. So so tree stands, I want
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: to I want to move to tree stands now, um
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and talk through specifically what we're doing in our case
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: and what kind of the things we should be thinking
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: about this time year when it comes to summer deer
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: stand prep, because I think lots of people are doing
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that right now. Um, everyone's getting out there hanging their stands,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: figure out where they're gon be hunting. Um. So you
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: said you have six stands still to hang, yeah, um,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: And the majority of them are going to be easy.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I'd say four of them are going to be traditional
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: pinch point rut spots where I have several years worth
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: a trim. I just need to go hang the stand
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: up and um, you know, see if anything's fallen in
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the shooting lanes. Pretty simple. The other two are adjust
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: you know, micromanaged tree stand locations where I need to
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: move it because I noticed the previous year that the
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: movement was coming, you know, I feel that I would
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: have a better chance of intercepting a you know, a
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: cruising buck or um, a buck with you know, by
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: moving the tree stand you know, ten yards or whatnot.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: And then the other one is a completely new area
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: that um I noticed last year that they were this.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: A buck in a dough made a mistake mid season
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: last year and I saw him come out of this
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: really steep ravine that I didn't think a lot of
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: deer we're gonna we're traveling, and uh so I put
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a trail camera up, got a lot of activity and
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be setting up a tree stand, um
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: in that location. Which is going to be a son
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: of a gun. So it sounds like all the stands
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: you're hanging now are based off of previous year observations.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Is that right? A majority of the stuff that I'm
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: hanging right now, yes, Yeah. And then I have a
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: running gun set that you know is directly for my
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: early season where you know, hey, I want to go
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: hunt of you know, you know, a trail leading to
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: a food source. I'm gonna you know, I'll just do
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: a quick setup right there, or if I'm gonna, you know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: hunt a different Preacher property around here. So yeah, you
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: know what, I think something you mentioned there and we
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: talked about this on some past episode it kind of
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: rings a bell for me. Um, But I want to
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: touch on again, is those tweaks. I think that's like
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest hurdles to get from being just
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: like an average deer hunter who sees some nice day
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: every once in a while to being that guy or
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: a girl that consistently kills them ature buck is being
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: willing to well, being a noticing when you need to
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: make a small change, and then b and I think
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: this is the toughest part actually doing it. Um, you know,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I struggle this sometimes where like I'm like, I know,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I really should be in that tree instead of this tree.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: But sometimes you know, you get lazy and you're like, well,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I'm already here, I can see the deer. Why do
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I really need to make a five yard move or something?
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: But right, I mean, it's the small little things like
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: that that make the big difference. And it's a it's
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: definitely a thought process, right, you have to be able
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: to think a certain way. You can't think like, oh,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: he's out of my shooting lane. You have to think
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I have to be over there, and then why is
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: set on my shooting too? Exactly? Why do you need
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: to move your uh stand to where he was going
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: or where he's coming from, or just straight up closer
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: to the encounter that you had. So I'm going to
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: be moving this one. Um, this one. It's not really
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: a funnel, but it's a it's a pinch point. It's
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: kind of a pinch point. It's off of a pinch point.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: A ways, I got a tree stand. I'm literally moving
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: it to the next tree this year because I had
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: all these bucks were cruising not necessarily they were at
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the long end of my shooting lane. And I need
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I just feel more comfortable. Instead of taking a thirty
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: five yard shot, I want to take a twenty five
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: yard shot. And and that's it's those small little adjustments
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: that you know, increasing your decreasing that range that could
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: make all the difference this season. And then the worst
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: feeling in the world is if you think that in
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: your head, you're like, I really should do this. I
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: know I should move this for this reason and that reason.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: But something happens or you just get lazy and you
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: don't do it, and then you're sitting that tree stand
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: next year or this coming fall, and that deer comes
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: through just like you thought he would, but now he's
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: out of your range because you didn't move. Like how
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: crappy is that feeling? Right? And I don't know how
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: many guys either email or Facebook. They send me emails
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, Dan, I see all these deer
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: working right here. Here's my tree stand. What should I do? Uh?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Move your tree stand? I mean, it's it's it can
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: be that simple. They're as well one alternative, and I
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: think you're right. Option number one is always adjust or
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: tree stand location to the movement. But sometimes there are
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: situations where you can't for some reason, or maybe your
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: tree is in just the perfect spot for access or
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: exit or whatever. Sometimes you know, you can manipulate the
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: deer to move closer to you. And that's another great
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: summer dear project too. You know, if there's a situation
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: like that where you want to be in this tree
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: for some reason, you're very strongly set on that, but
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the deer passing at thirty five and you want twenty five,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: you know, and we've talked about this before too. You know,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: lay down a couple of trees over that one trail
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: and divert them to the trailer it's ten years closer
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: to you. Or if they cross the fence in a
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: couple of spots in front of you, block the fence
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: that's forty yards away and open it up at fift um.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Those little manipulations, all these little tweaks, like at this
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: time in the summer, I think if you're the guy
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: or girl who has, you know, your property already set,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: you've hunted it for years and years, now is when
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: you want to be making the tiny little tweaks that
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: you know, really put you in the position for all
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: the variables to be as lined up as possible, those
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: little those little adjustments that you know, I really try
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: to sit down this time of year and think they're Okay,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: this tree stands in a great spot. I've had success
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: in the past, But what tiny thing could I could
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I do to make it a little better? You know.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's that little movement. Maybe it's you know, you know,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: like I said, laying a tree down. Maybe it's one
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: more branch needs to be cut. Maybe it's adding a
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: little bit of extra cover to the tree around me.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's greasing the tree stand because I think it
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: has to be just a little bit quieter. Or once
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I had an issue with the seat in November making noise,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna make sure agrease that now so that
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: November it'll be good and quiet. You know. It's thinking
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: through all that kind of stuff now so that when
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: you actually go out there to hunt, you're not dealing
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: with that crap. Let me let me put it to
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: you this way. Where I start off, let's say, either
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: a rut vacation or when I really start hitting it
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: harder in late October. Where I start off, and let's
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: even even if it's a pre hung tree stand, I
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: very rarely am sitting in that stand when I have
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: an encounter with a bigger, more mature deer or a
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: deer from my hit list, because I am constantly moving
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: and tweaking throughout the entire season. Where these these tree
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: stands that I'm going to be hanging this month are
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: starting points and that's most of the time, that's all
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, and and hopefully you know, in some cases,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: you know they're starting points because you're you know, like
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: you said, you're learning a new spot, figuring out, then adjusting,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: or hopefully you are taking what was a starting point
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: last year maybe and now moving it from last year
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to an end point this year by making the adjustment
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: you had to, or maybe it's three years worth of
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: adjustments and now you're making the final step to get
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: to that perfect spot or the perfect tweak. Um. But yeah,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: this is that time you're to you know, go through
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: your list to stand like literally, this isn't a bad
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: exercise to do right down every one of your stand
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: locations that you currently have up and think through like
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: at least one way you can improve that set this month,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: and then think through you know, maybe you've got a
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: plan of three more stands you want to hang and
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: just go through and think about that stand location, all
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: the variables you need to think about when you do
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: hang that one as that new starting point, you know,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I you got to be thinking about so many things
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: when hanging a tree stand. It's not just you know,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: at least when I first started hunting, it was like, okay,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: where are there going to be dear, Okay, I'm gonna
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: hang my tree there or hang my stand there, And
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: that's like where most hunters just start. And then you
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: start thinking, Okay, you know, maybe I'm gonna start thinking
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: about wind So how do I hang my tree stand
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: in such a way that you know I'm not going
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: to be winded? And then you realize, okay, it's not
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: just that. Now I also need to be in a
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: tree that I'm gonna be hidden in, so I need
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: enough cover. And then you get a little bit better
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: and you realize, not only do any of her, but
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I also still need to have shooting lanes, and then
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I need to be a fair how to get in
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: and out of that tree stand? And now I got
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: to think about how high in the tree gotta I
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: gotta be thinking about, you know, having the right gear
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: from quiet in the tree. I mean, there's umpteen different
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: little details that even go into this one small step
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: of hunting, you know, getting the tree stand right right.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: And just to elaborate on what you just said, here
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: is how I play a game. It's not necessarily a game.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I find this location right that I want
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: to have a tree stand in right, and I'll just
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: put a finger on the map or I'll put a
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: mark right on this map, and I'll say, all right,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: this is a good spot. This is a good area.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Now a how do I access it? All right, b
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I've accessed it. And then you play the wind game
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and then you're like, okay, is that wind a can
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I act? Is that a good or bad? Access with
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that wind? Okay, it's good? Okay, Now I can hunt it. Okay,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I'm in the stand. I have that wind. Can I
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: hunt it on that that wind? So if it matches up, yes,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: it's a green, it's a go. You know, I can
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: hunt that during the season, all right, access on a
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: different wind, Okay, wind wind is bad all right for access?
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: But if I get to the stand, um you know,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I may I I it's a risk, you know, like
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: we always talk about risk verse reward is that is
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: that access bad? If? And if it is. If I
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: get to the stand and I don't bump anything, is
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: that a green? That's the I can hunt that wind
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: on that stand, or I can hunt that stand with
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: that wind, even though it's going to be a bad access,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: but good while I'm in the stand. For me, that's
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: kind of a that depends on you know, that kind
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: of opens Paindora's box. But you have to go through
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: every type of scenario with every stand. Okay, yes or no?
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Can I hunt it in this wind? Can I hunt
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: it in this one? Can I hunt it in this one?
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Can I hunt it in this one? That way, you know,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: when the season starts, you don't have to think about it.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: You're just like, yes, this wind, I can hunt it. Nope,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: this wind find a different place. Yeah, oh yeah, I
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: love I love that I go to the same similar
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: process when I'm in there trying to set new stands.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: And to your point, again, this is a helpful thing
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I've I've done this occasionally, probably something I should do
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: again in the future. But again, like if you were
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: to list on all your tree stands, and maybe you
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: did that exercise I just mentioned where you think of
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: one thing you can do for each stand. You know,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: just have a chart like this and then label or
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: list of those things out so you know right what
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: wind directions is good for right down. You know, I
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: don't know what time of year that stands best for
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: different things like that, so you don't even need to
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: think about that. You know, on October fifteenth, you're like, well,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: where the heck should I hunt today? A southwest wind?
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: But you can just look at your map and your
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: list of stands and you'll say, Okay, stand A, D,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: and F are all good for southwest winds, And I
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: know that stand F happens to be a good mid
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: October spot. Let's go there. Just kind of simplifies it
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: because I don't know about you, but sometimes during the
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: hunting season I almost become paralyzed with analysis, you know,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: paralysis by analysis. I think they say, like, you're just
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: you're especially like you and me, you know, probably maybe
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: all of our listeners, because right we've listened to so
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: many different people's ideas. We're students of the game. We're
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: constantly learning, reading, studying our own experiences, studying other people's experiences,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: that when we go into a hunting situation. There's so
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: many different ideas that could be implemented, and so many
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: different factors were paying attention to. You know, it can
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: be like crazy, so it can be stressful. And it's
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: helped me occasionally to try to just like remove a
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: little bit of that decision making stress by just having
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: it kind of mapped out in some ways, so like
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I don't need to sit and grow myself about it.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I just know A and B are my two options,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: and that that helps in the in the tiny way
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: it helps. And you know, at certain times of the year,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: every little bit can can really make a difference. That's
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: a fact. Another thing when it comes to setting stands
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: that I like to do is that, you know, I
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: try to never set a stand unless there's at least
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: three good reasons that I'm setting it there. This is
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: kind of just a different way of looking at the
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: same thing you said. But I don't want to just
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: hang a stand just because it was a trail there,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: or just because there's a scrape there or something. I
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: want there at least to be like three really good reasons.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I can't remember where I got this idea from. I
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: think maybe Don Higgins wrote an article about this like
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: five years or I read this some number of years ago,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: but it really stuck with me that there should be
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: at least three really good reasons that you can list
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: out for any stand spot or any location you're putting
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: a stand. So let's say I'm hanging a stand and
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I'm okay, so why am I hanging the stand here?
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I better have three really good reasons. Maybe number one
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: because I've got two trails intersecting them front of me,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: there's a reason number one. Reason number two, I'm hanging
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: this stand here because it's at an inside corner of
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: this field or whatever might be. And then a reason
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: number three. Maybe it would be because I've got this
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: creek that runs through the property that i can walk
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: all the way to the stands, so I've got great access,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: and there's two different factors that should be pulling deer
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: into this area. UM always trying to go through that.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: If if you have less than three reasons in your
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: favor for that tree, stand's probably not good enough at
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: least not to kill mature buck from UM. You know,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: that's still a little exercise that I kind of go
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: through to make sure that I'm not just setting something
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: you know, over easy sign or just because I'm getting
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: tired or lazy, or just because oh this looks good. Um.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: You know Craig Doherty, he was a guest on this show,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I know some number of episodes, I think early early
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: in the show, early first ten episodes or something. Um,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: And now I'm kind of getting off on a tangent.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: But I went on a hunt with him once, Um,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know, four or five years ago, and we're
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: sitting in this box line just talking about stuff and
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: we hadn't seen any deer that night, or very few,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: and it was like surprising because it was I don't know,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: late October something cold front. We should have been seeing
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: deer and we weren't. And you know, I cast said, well,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: that's hunting just kind of happen. That's just how it
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: goes sometimes. And he made a comment along the lines of, well, no,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: you know, there's always a reason. And his kind of
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: lesson to me was that you should always ask why,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Like there's always a reason for what you see or
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: don't see, or observe or don't observe. So when you're
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: sitting in a tree stand, I think the reason why
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I got to this is because we're kind of talking
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: about reasons for tree stand, but I'm now moving us
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: to reasons for why dear what they do. Dear do
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: what they do. When you are hunting in tree stand,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Let's say this fall and you see a buck do something,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: or you see some deer do something or whatever it is,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: or you don't see dear one night, don't ever just
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: take it at face value and just say all that happened.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Always ask why why did this happened? And I think
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: if we're constantly asking why, we're going to learn stuff
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: and that will help you apply to these tree stand
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: adjustments or to this exit or access adjustments we need
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: to make. Because if you see a buck come out
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: and he walks fifty yards away from you along a
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: field or field edge, why did he do that? Why
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: wasn't he right here where I thought it was gonna be?
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Why did he walk fifty yards away? Or when you
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: see a group of does come out in such and
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: such areas travel on that ridge line there, we need
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: to be asking why they traveled there, because if we
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: can start understanding the answers to those questions, every time
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: we see something like that, all of a sudden we
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: are uncovering the clues that we need to make the
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: right adjustments now or during the season or whatever. It
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: is so random tangent. Dan started with that, but always
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: ask why always? And that right there can also be
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: applied to what some people call the October lull. Oh yeah,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: for sure, I know, I know we're getting off again.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: But like everybody, don't hunt the October lull. I'm hunting
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: the October lull. I don't care. Well, I mean, we mean,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: we've talked about before. I mean the October lull. It
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: is a thing that many people experience, but it's not
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: it's not a natural thing that just happens like it
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: just happens. It is a reaction two things changing. And
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: so if you have the ability and the knowledge to
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: adjust to that change that the deer make, you can
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: be right in the game, right amen. But some people
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: don't have the spots to do it, or the time
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: to do it right, or the knowledge of you know,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: how to do that? And those kids why they listened
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: to the Wired to Hunt podcast with Mark Kenyon and
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Dan Johnson D D. John I'm an afterthought though, Well,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: you're the brains behind this, what does that make you do? Um?
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like I would say the bronze, but
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: it's not even that. I'm just like, I'm that sidekick
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: who is like like just a little off. It's chromosome.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: You may be missing a chromosome the type that East
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: dog food that type. Yeah, that guy. That guy. Well,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I'm happy to have that guy as my coast. So
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: so the tree stands, UM, I did want to like
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: elaborate a little bit on like, well, you know, we've
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: talked about tree stands a lot. One I'll just give
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: one example of one of the adjustments I'm making. So
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: you know, we talked about your tweak you're making. One
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: of the tweaks I'm making is one of the situations
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: where I have a tree stand that's near food plot,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: that's right off the food plot. Um. I've hunted it
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: many times in the past. Is a great spot. Um.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I've almost gotten a shot at several bucks there, but
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: never quite been able to get it done. So to
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: what we've been talking about. What I have seen though,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: is lots sometimes these bucks cross from a swamp over
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: to this finger of timber and the crp grass. They
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: had to cross a thin finger of crop field and
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: when that crow feels cut either corner beans once cut down.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: They always cross this field at this low spot. You know,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: we've talked about for low spots and fields lots of times.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: If deer are going to cross the field on the open,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: they're gonna cross it in that low spot. And that's
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: exactly what's happened here. Um And I've seen deer do
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: it numerous times. Leaner the buck we're talking about a
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: while ago, he passed by me like sixty yards away
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: from me across this low spot. Instead of coming the
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: food plot, he crossed the field behind me in the
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: low spot, came across, stayed in the timber and c
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: rp um. And for a number of years, I've like
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: kept saying, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta sit there,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: But it's, you know, like sixty yards away from my
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: current stand near the food plot, and it's always like
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: just I don't know. The one risk of having a
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: food plot is that it's always kind of like enticing
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: to sit on it or close to it because you
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: see so many deer and you always think that you're
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: gonna have that action there. But this is one of
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: those cases where I just have to make I know
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: it's the right thing to do, and I've just been
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: being stubborn about it. I need to have a stand
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: there at this low spot that yeah, I'm not gonna
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: go hunt the food plot edge, but that's fine because
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: lots of times the bucks are cruising down into the
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: food loot, not actually coming to a stand in that
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: low spot, going past it, kind of checking it out
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: and then continuing on to various other spots. So that's
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: an example of I've you know, observations have shown me
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: this the spot to be. And then number two, they're
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: signed consistently through there every year from you know, the
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: occasional mature buck the cruises through there. And then also
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: it's a terrain funnel, so it's one of those things
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: that you know, if you look at your maps you
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: notice it too. But between the maps and now you know,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: observing it a handful of years, that's somewhere that Yet
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel silly because I have three tree stands
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: and like a d and twenty yards section along this
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: finger of timber, but each one has a different time
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: of year that I should be hunting it or a
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: different situation. Um, So micromanaging those little things like that
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: it can be. It can be the difference maker. I agree.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: So that's what we're doing when it comes to tree stands.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Any um, let's talk a little bit about how we're
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: setting them or any I think we've talked a little
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: bit about this in the past, but anything you've found
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: you've really started doing recently that you like when it
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: comes to where you're hanging your stands, you know, in
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: the tree or the gear you're using, any technique as
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I think we might have talked about facing
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: the tree stand towards where the deer come or towards
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: away from where they're coming. We talked about that, right right.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: So one of my favorite things to do, and I
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: did this because I was self. I used to sell
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: film a lot and uh and I don't do that
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: as much anymore. So I always had in order to
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: get away with a little bit more movement, and it's
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: easier with a camera room in the tree. I had
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: my back to where the mate where I thought the
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: deer were going to be coming, right, So that way
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I can stand up and then if it's a shooter,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: I just basically point my you know, my camera, hit
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: record and if it's not, then I can follow that
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: deer in, follow him out, you know, and just be
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: comfortable because there's an object between me and the deer,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: and they do kind of catch movement. They see this
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: big tree up in front of them, and then they're
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: more likely from what I've seen, to uh, you know,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: take a look at it then ignore it. So so
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I've kept doing that, and I I feel more comfortable
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: I can get away with more movement. The deer are
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: less likely to you know, if I do make too
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: much movement, or for god forbid, my tree stand squeaks,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: or I don't know something and they catch me, then
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I can you know, then I'm more likely to get
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: away with it because there's a giant object in between us.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I'm starting to do that more and more too, right.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I think it's a think it's a great idea, you know,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: if if you can manage it with you know, limbs
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: and other things like that. You know, as long as
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: you can get up shot off, as long as you've
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: set up for that. I mean, like you said, it's
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: a great way to get that additional cover and to
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: kind of help you in that situation. Um, you know,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: two years ago the job bricker here, Ye both of
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: my tree stands were set up like that that I
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: got a shot, a jawbreaker that was I was behind
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: the tree, and then the buck that I killed, you know,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: two weeks later, same deal. I set that stand purposely
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: up facing away from where the deer b because it
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: was a skinny tree and have a lot of cover,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: so I was kind of banking on the trunk helping
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: me out. And good thing I did that, because even
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: being behind the tree, that buck still kind of latched
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: onto me moving and you know, like we've talked about,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I had like a two minute stare down with him.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that if I was in broad site,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: right out in front of the tree, he would have
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: let me get away with that. Right now. The only
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: problem with that is you're gonna be doing a lot
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: more standing because you're going to want to, you know,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: have your eyes and where the deer are going to
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: be coming from. Um at least that's what I do.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I very rarely sit down in my stand, except for
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: you know, a morning hunt where i'm you know, I
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: can't shoot because it's dark. Yeah, I mean, I'll take
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: a little breaks, but I'm I like to stand. Yeah. Interesting,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: you bring that up. Um so was sick because headquarters
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: last week, you know, recording and um I was chatting
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: with one of their product managers and he was telling
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: me that he brings a little sheet of close cell foam. Um.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Now he I don't know, this was some special phone
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: that he had from, you know, some type of that
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: he was using in some product that he had, but
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: you could get like, you know, like a little foam
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: sleeping pad. It it's like a half inch thick type
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: foam that you can get, you know, for camping or whatever.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: He brings this little pad of foam you know, eighteen
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: by eighteen or whatever with him every time he goes
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: into a tree stand and he lays that out on
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: the ground of the tree stand and a what that
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: does for him is it quiets his boots moving on
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: the metal platform with tree stand almost completely, so there's
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: no more you know, clicking against the grates or you know,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: dirt falling and making noise or squeaking or anything. Be
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: It also gives him a lot of add warmth. A
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: lot of heat gets lost through your feet on that
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: metal platform coming up, so you know, like if you're
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: sleeping on the regular ground, it's a lot cooler and
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: if you sleep on a phone pad. So by putting
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: a very thin foam pad on the top of his
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: tree stand platform, it also really helps him stand stand
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: longer on those cold late season days. Um. So I
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: thought that's kind of an interesting little thing that it's
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: very interesting. And then finally it actually, even though it
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a lot of cushioning, he says it
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: really helps with standing all day during during the rut
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: and stuff, because he does all day sits, but he
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: stands most of the day too, like you just mentioned.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: So he said this is something that really helps him.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: So I was like, that's kind of nice little tip there, right,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: And I'm I'm getting to the point now where you know,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I used to be die hard, you know, lone wolf everything,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: but there's but I'm realizing now that there are tree
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: stands out there that are really comfortable, like you know,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: like the millenniums, and I think Hawk has some. You know,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: it's almost like it's a recliner up in the tree,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: but you know you're not gonna do your running guns
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: with it, but you can put it into a rut spot.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: And I I sat in a couple of these at
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: some of the A T A shows this year, and
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, don't get me wrong, Lone Wolf can
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: be comfortable, but you're you're, you know, you're tied in there,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: and some of these other stands are like luxury. I
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: can easily fall asleep. Yeah, I would never accuse lone
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Wolf stands of being like the most comfortable. They're they're
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: they're you know, acceptable. Um, but you know, I use
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: those stands in certain situations because they're super light, super quiet.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're awesome for running gun sets. But yeah,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I mean there's lots of other options. When you're looking
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: for something you're gonna hang up now and leave it,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: and you want something comfy. Um, I'm just cheap, So
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: like me, I buy dozens of the forty dollar tree
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: stands and then I've got two Lone wolfs that I've
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: you know, splurged on that I take from my running guns. Um.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: But you know, even the cheapos, you can occasionally find
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: a diamond the rough comfort Zone. Man, I have no
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: affiliation with them whatsoever, but the forty dollar comfort Zone
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: is the best bargain tree stand you can get there.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: It's not great tree stands. Forty bucks but it's the
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: best forty dollar one other by far. How old is
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: your oldest comfort zone? I think I'm going on my
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: third year. And are they still quality enough to hunt
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: out of them? Yeah? Absolutely? Have you had to hunt,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: like replace any straps? I have not had one issue yet?
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So again, I mean it's nothing fancy,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: but it's when you look at that like bargain tree
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: stand market, right, you know this the options available there,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: This has by far the best cushion seat. Um. It's
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: like everything is what do you call it? Powder coated metal?
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: So it's a little bit quieter. Um, everything's tight. You know,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: some of these fourty dollar stands you get like done
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: in sports or some of these like bargain places whatever
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: it might be your tractor supply or whatever. Everything's loose
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: and clanky and dingy and heavy. This is like just
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: the antipathy of all that it is. Ah, I mean,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: look at me, I'm gushing. These guys really should really
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: should get on board with the Weird Hum podcast. What
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: we're gonna say, Oh, I was just singing a tea
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: pain song. Yeah, I mean there for I don't know,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: find whatever works for you, but for putting if you're
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: gonna put a lot of stands in the woods, and
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: you know, for me, I'm twenty years old. I don't
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: have all sorts of money. I have to spend it carefully.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I've gone the route of lots of cheap stands and
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: then a couple of high quality ones that I can
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: take on these you know, mobile setups, and that's worked
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: well for me. But I know some guys you know,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: would not want to sit in a small tree stand
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: like that, especially during the rut, for long, long periods
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: of time. Um. I mean, I definitely have more of
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: a tolerance for pain and discomfort, I guess maybe than
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: some people. So, I mean they're small, um, but they're
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: not too bad. So perfect the tree stands. We talked
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: about how to play some shooting lanes. You know, this
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: is a great time of a year to be going
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: through and you know, checking all your tree stands and
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: checking their shooting lanes. I like to you know, I
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: think we've talked about this before too. We probably talked
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: about everything here at some point over the past episodes,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: but we're trying to cover it all in one place here. Um.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: One thought I have on um, well, I don't even
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: know what my thought was, now, Dan, shooting lanes. What
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: the heck are we gona talk about shooting lanes. The
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: more you cut, the more it exposes you. Well, you
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: tell me your thoughts on shodo lings, and there's there's
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: something a different thought on shoo LANs. I was going
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: to share that I've completely blanked on. But oh, you
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: know what I was gonna say. This is what I
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: was gonna say. I was going to say that if
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: you are doing a lot of this kind of work
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: early in the year, you know, if you're a guy
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: or girl that in the spring, if you're way ahead
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: of the game and you're good and you got your
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: stands out in May or June, you still probably want
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: to go in late August or even early September or
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: whatever it might be for you to just double check them,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: because lots of times there's that summer growth that all
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: of a sudden comes into those shooting lanes. So I've
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: had a lot of situations where I went and May
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: cleared everything out. I didn't think about it again until
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I hunted in October and then showed up and had
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: a bunch of new crap right in the way of
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: where I cut that then, you know, made the whole
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: work I did in May irrelevant. So make sure you
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: check everything late in the summer. Yep, yep. And you
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: know there's those guys out there who they cut landing
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: strips basically, you know, the everything in this giant rectangle
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: when they stay shooting lane, it's like a bowling alley,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: you know, they cut everything. And then you got the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: guys who I'm kind of I'm kind of more like
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: this second group where you're cutting pockets and you you
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: find an opening where the deer are going to go,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: and you you know, you just cut cut as little
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: as you possibly have to. Yeah, so you're more in
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: that camp. Yep. Except for except well, I shouldn't say except,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: because there are times when I go into an area
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: where it is just thick and nasty and you have
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: to do major trimming. You know, your your tree is
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: a really thick and nasty tree, and then you have
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: to cut major lanes, you know, to even just hit
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: the ground floor. So yeah, that there definitely is that divide.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Some people go one way, some go to the other.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: I actually have been going a little more in the
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: opposite direction. Um, you know, of course I want to
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: have good cover. But if I can keep good cover
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: in my stand, I will open up lanes as best
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: as I can with trying to keep that cover as
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: still as good as I can right around me. Because
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: I've had too many situations, relatively recently where because there's
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: one limb in the way if forced me to rush
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: a shot, or because or kept me from getting a
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: shot or it, you know, just made this thing a
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: whole lot more difficult than it should have been. So
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: now I'm like, there's one limb in this one way,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: and I'll sit there and look at it and be like,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be paying the butt to cut that
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: one more thing. But I know that if a buck
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: stands behind that limb, I can't get a shot. Because
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: I was lazy, I'm gonna be kicking myself for years.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: So I always try to get that one extra limb
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: or whatever it might be to make sure you've got good,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: good available lanes and stuff, but not the expense of
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: opening yourself up. Um, but I don't know, it's really
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: six one way, half dozen the other. I just hate
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: being a situation where there's a deer moving through your
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: lane or something and you don't have time to range him,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: stop him, get a shot, or you have to make
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: a noise to stop him and then he spooks or
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: he jumps a string or there's so many things that
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: can go wrong when you've got a very narrow window
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: to get a shot. Um, it just raises a lot
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: more issues. How long do you think a podcast would
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: be if we talked about absolutely everything that like from
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: food plots to you know, shooting lanes, to equipment to
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: making sure you know strategy all that stuff. How how
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: how many hours do you think that would uh, that
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: conversation would be. Well, we're gonna find out today, because
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: that's the plan. We're gonna keep going. We are not stopping.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen up, if we're going six seven hours,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: whatever it's gonna be. My wife is gonna be happy
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: with me. Oh yeah, and me she probably how much
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: does she hate me? Dan? I feel like I'm always
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: a bad influence on you. Oh no, your wife, My wife,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: My wife doesn't hate you. She she it's like a grandma, right,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: or she's just like did you just compare your wife
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: to your grandma? Well, in this one in this one
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: instance where it's like I'm not mad at you, I'm
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: just disappointed, you know, one of those things that's even
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: where right, right, So you know, it's like, oh man,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: because like right now, I hear my kids screaming upstairs,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: and I know, Oh, by the way, my wife quit
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: her job to be a stay at home daycare provider, right,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: so she has three other kids that aren't mine at least,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: I hope and uh and she and she's watching him
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: right now, right, So she's taken on more kids. So
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: that tells me she's not you know, she's not as
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: mad at me as I previously thought. I guess that's good.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Then that's right, that's good. Do we have time to continue? Yeah,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: we do. I mean she's she's on the clock, not me.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: So we talked a little bit about trail cameras. We
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: talked a little about tree stands, shooting lanes, what else
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: are you doing at this time of year towards the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: end of this month, and we mentioned it briefly, is
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: the trail camera transition and that comes off of the
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: mineral stations that I have my trail cameras on now,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: and that gets a little bit closer to the betting areas,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: closer to my tree stand locations. And I'm trying to
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: do that efficiently. So when I'm going in to hang
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: my tree stands, I'll set these cameras up in these
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: pinch points and these fence crossings where I feel these
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: deer are betting um coming in and out and uh
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: that way, I'm not going to check them until I
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: actually hunt that hunt those stands right so and then
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: find you know, they're even with some of these uh
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: trail camera switches. You might need an access route to
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: this trail camera that is not the same access route
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: that is for the you know that is for the
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: uh the tree stand. Yeah, yeah, I think, um, that
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: shift that happens right at the end of summer is
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: one of the like most frustrating things for a lot
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: of people, I think because a lot of guys and girls,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: right we get out in the summer, we have our
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: cameras out, we're looking at farm fields and seeing the
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: bucks and everything, and then September eight comes along or fifteen,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, these dear gone and they're
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: not doing anything that they used to be doing. The
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: bucks we were watching don't show up anymore. Or maybe
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: you hung your stands based on where you saw bucks. Moving.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: You know in July they're always on this trail camera
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: every day during daylight. And then you sit there October one,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: and you don't see anything for the next week. Um. Like,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: if you aren't paying attention and aware of the shift
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: that happens that first week in September, you're missing out
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: on a major, major behavior change in white tails that
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: is going to really hurt to as a hunter. So
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: you know, to what you just said, Dan, For those
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: who aren't familiar with this shift, you know when um,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: when bucks are losing their velvet that first week in
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: September give usually give a take, there's going to be
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: a few change that happened at that time of year.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: Um as dear transition to their kind of fall range,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have a lot of deer relocate from where
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: they've been living in the summer to a new fall range.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Um that might be a shift of you know, twenty acres,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: that could be a shift of a mile or more. Um.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: So you know, each buck has a different personality, different
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: ranges and stuff. But kind of I don't know what
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: you've seen, Dan, but i'd say maybe on average, forty
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: per cent of maybe the bucks that I might have
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: on a property in the summer will substantially change their
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: behavior by the time the fall rolls around. So usually,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: let's say I've got four bucks on camera in the summer,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: maybe there's a good bet that maybe half of them
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: will still be around during the hunting season. The other
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: two or whatever it is. In that case, um, they
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: might be gone. Have you seen something kind of similar
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: to that, almost to a t. You know, that late
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: August period, early September, velvet comes off, that testosterone is
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: starting to build in their body, and the bachelor groups
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: start to break up and the deer that you know,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: and the reason I'm doing this transition is because there's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: no point. They don't need the mineral anymore, at least
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: that's what I've seen. You know, they stopped coming to
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: the mineral stations. They the luscious greens that are in
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: there have started to dry up and are less appetizing
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: for them. The corn fields or the bean fields, you know,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: the beans are starting to dry out, so they're not
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: hitting the bean fields as much anymore. The corn, you know,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: is kind of a last you know, the reason they
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: love it in the late season is because it's the
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: only thing they have to eat in some instances, you know,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: it's easy for them to get so then they transition
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: to what's in the woods, anything that's still green or
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: the acorns, right, So, so that transition can keep those
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: deer away from where they have been the previous three months.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: And now some people think, oh, they're gone, Well yes,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: according to your trail cameras, they're gone. So you have
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: to be smart and move your trail you know, your
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: trail cameras, or just realize that once the rut comes
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: around these some of these areas still might be good,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: but they're not. You know, a bachelor group of bucks
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: is not going to come through in November, right right,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: And I think it's you know, in order to keep
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: getting pictures of bucks or to relocate those bucks, you
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: need to, like you said, move those cameras. But then also,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: you know, so your trail cameras need to change. But
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: then also your tree stands strategy needs to be different
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: in that well, it shouldn't even be exactly, shouldn't be
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: different because you don't do not set your tree stands
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: based on what you're seeing in July or August. Just
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: don't do it. The only way it might work is
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: if you've got a really early opener. If you're opening
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: in early September, you know, and some of those bucks
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: might still be on many of those bucks will still
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: be on that usual summer bed to feed pattern of
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: that time of year. Then you can go ahead and
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: do that. But if you're like me in Michigan and
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: we don't open till October one, if I were setting
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: my stands and trying to hunt based on summer observations,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: I'd be having a lot of boring nights on I
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: would never see a deer. So that's an important thing
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: to keep in mind this or yes, we're setting stands,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: but you should be setting your stands now based on
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: last year's observations, based on topo maps and aerial maps,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: you know, looking at the terrain, anticipating what the deer
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: are gonna do in October and November. Um, you know,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: looking at where the food sources are going to be
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: in October and November, looking at what the quality bedding
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: cover is going to be at those times of year. Um.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: You know, don't get too sucked into trying to you know,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: set up based on the sign you're seeing in July
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: or where you saw a buck in on October fifteenth,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: or sorry August. UM. That's a really important thing to
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: make sure you keep in mind as you're doing this
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: prep work this summer. It's right another thought on the
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: trail camera when I do that shift for me, like
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: you know, lots of times, I've got my summer cameras
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: out by food summer food sources. UM. Something I've really
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: come to love is putting my cameras on scrapes during
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: the shift period. So in like the last time I
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: go into my properties, so late August or early September,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: or if you know, if it's one of these out
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: of state places and I you know, go once in
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: the early season, this will be the very beginning of
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: October whatever. Whenever I get that chance, I'm gonna go
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: in there and set some cameras on scrapes or mock scrapes,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: even September October, when they're not typically you don't think
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: of bucks hitting scrapes a lot. They really do visit
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: these scrapes a lot more than we think, at least
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: during the nighttime and when I'm trying to get inventory
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: of bucks or figure out, okay, where did this buck
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: relocate to? In September October. I just have had like
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: the best success in the world of getting lots and
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: lots of pictures on scrapes, especially if you can't use
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: any kind of attractant or bait you if you're trying
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: to take inventory of bucks, it's really helpful throw some
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: corner mineral down. But if you can't do that in
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: your state, even during the summer, scrape locations can be
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: one of the best places to still get an inventory
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: because they still check and smell those licking branches. They're
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: not necessarily they're not scraping up the ground underneath it,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: but they still are rubbing their glands up on those
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: looking branches or sniffing them or licking them. Um. Bucks
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: doze the whole gamut Um. I've just seen it year
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: after year, even in the summer they're doing it. So
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: it's it's a great place to place your cameras as
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: long as you've got a camera that's not spooking those
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: deer at the scrapes. Um. I think it was Eric
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: Long maybe we talked to last year, who talked about
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: some kind of kind of studies he was doing personally
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: checking how deerer reacting to scrape cameras. Um. I think
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: he said he was noticing some deer were negatively reacting
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: to it. But I've talked to other people who haven't
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: seen that that same reaction. I think it comes down
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: to what kind of camera using, how edgy your deer are,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: how you're placing your camera there. I'm trying to start
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: placing my cameras higher up in the tree, so not
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: so much deer eye level as much um a little
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: higher and angling them down. I'm hoping that'll make them
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: little less noticeable the deer um. And then of course
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: making sure you're not checking them too often, you know,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: like you mentioned, having good access routes to your cameras
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: when you check them, even in the summer. That kind
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: of stuff matters. I never hang a trail camera on
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: a tree that is right in front of a scrape.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: It's off, it's always off of it. Yeah. Yes, but
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: you're pointing out a scrape, but you're saying it's not
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: the scrape tree. It's not. Yeah. I mean, you know,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: when you think of a scrape, you think of a
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: branch hanging right down on the ground, and you think
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: of the tree that's about, you know, five ten feet
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: away from it, and it's almost like it's in view
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: of the deer, right, because that the deer they're focused
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: on that scrape. So if they look their head up
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: and look look around, you don't want that camera to
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: be in their focus range. Yeah, you you definitely want
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: to try and make it is concealed as possible, especially
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: if you've got like a flash camera, different things of that.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: But I think it also I've talked to some people
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: and seen some examples where they just don't care like you.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: I've had I've had some cameras sometimes on a scrape,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: and I've had three and four year old bucks show
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: up over and over and over again, and they just
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: don't care about it. While you go to other places
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: and the first time a buck gets a picture on
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: that camera, you see his eyes wide as bowling ball
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: and he never shows up ever again. So you do
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: have to kind of get a gauge on how your
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: deer react to that. I don't know, if you keep
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: you know, I wonder and sometimes like do these deer
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: just get used to these cameras being on all the time,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Like on this Michigan property, these deer are you know,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: very heavily hunted, they're very human hunting pressure shy, But
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've got cameras out all the time, and
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: I have not had these terribly concealed or really high
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: up in the tree. They've been kind of a deer
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: eye level. Sometimes it's done like a stick and pick
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: type thing right in the edge of a field, and
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: I get daylight pictures of mature bucks looking at it
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: or walking past it, like repeatedly, year after year, And
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I wonder if, like sometimes these deers
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: just kind of become used to it and stuff to
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: some degree. And then maybe that's partly because I'm really
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: careful about trying not to associate humans with that, you know,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: I'm really careful about want to check them and all
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So I don't know. I think
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: everyone has kind of figure that out for themselves in
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: their situation. But it's definitely something to be thinking about, right,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: I agree. Shooting lanes were talked about, trail cameras, food plots.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: Do you do any access or exit work before the
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: season on this time of year, you know, are you
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: talking about like cleaning a trail to get to, like
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: removing all the leaves off of the forest floor to
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: get to a treaty stand, extremely quiet, that kind of stuff.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: That kind of stuff. Yeah, no, I don't do any
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: of that stuff. Why not. Uh, to be honest with you,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: it's gonna sound like a dumb excuse, but you know,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: like I mentioned, every time in the woods has to
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: be efficient as possible, and my opinion is that that
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: kind of work is lower on the totem pole for
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: stuff that needs to get done. And I've never really
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: had me being, you know, walking to a tree stand,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: you know, leaves crunching, be little of my boots, you know,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: as you know, a huge red flag where hey, I
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: need to I need to make a sidewalk, a cushioned
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: sidewalk to my tree stand. That way, I'm not getting busted,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I guess, just not something I'm I'm doing currently. Interesting. Um,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: I I've not done it all the time, but I
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: definitely have every year tried to think about little ways
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: to improve those routes in and out sometimes because I
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: at least I certainly have had times when I was
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: trying to walk to a stand in the afternoon and
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: and I had to go through thick brush or I
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: was on tons of leaves and crunching sticks, and like
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: every step is painful, and like I'm hating my life
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: every step because I just know I'm alerting deer around me.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: Or if you've got to stand that like to get
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: to it, you have to go somewhere near a bedding area,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: or you have to do this or that, and you
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: just you have to find stealthy ways to get in
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: and out. And if if you can't get to a
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: stand without alerting deer, what the what's the point of
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: hunting that stand? Um? So I've been trying. There are
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: certain examples where I've been trying to improve those routes.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Um you know. So, for example, there's this this property
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: hunt where in the in certain times of the day,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: I can walk a field edge. At certain times of
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: the day, I need to walk on the other side
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: of this row of timber through this brush, so that
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: if deer feeding on that field early in the morning
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: or late in the evening, I obviously don't want to
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: walk to that field and spook them. So the first
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: year or two I hunted, that was the only way
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: I could get it out because the brush was so
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: thick on the other side. So I was just walking
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: the field edge and spooking deer and I knew it
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: was stupid, but I didn't have anither way. But then
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: I decided, okay, I'm going to clear a trail for
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: the brush. So I did that one summer, and that
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: has made an absolute world of difference, like night and
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: day when it comes to daylight setting as a mature
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: deer and just deer in general, because I can get
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: in and out now without a making a ton of
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: noise or you know, just getting lost in like head
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: high brush and brambles and crap like that. You know,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: I went through there once. Now every year I just
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: kind of maintained that in the summer and I can
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: get in quietly. I can get in and out with
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: spooking deer um. And it wasn't that much work, but
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: you know, of course it was. It was a you know,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: an investment of time. But now I've been able to,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: you know, easily maintain that in the years to come.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Or I found different spots where if I just clear out,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: you know, like sometimes there was like a fence row
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: and you want to be on one side or the
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: other something, I'll just try to clear out a little
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: path to get in, you know, across the fence row quietly,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: so you're not climbing over trees and making a bunch
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: of jump, Just little tweaks like that, I think are
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: the things I've been trying to do more often now.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: Just just planning out that route. I had a time
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit in my head so I know, okay,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: I can get there as efficiently as possible or effectively,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: and that maybe this is the route I have to
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: go to not alert deer. But sometimes it's cutting one
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: tree limb, or it's I've never been to the type
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: that's actually raped out trails. I haven't gone that far.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: But um, I've definitely found it valuable to try to
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: do some work. Um that you know, again it does come.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: There was like some hierarchy of importance of all these
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: things off you. You know, if you only have a day,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: you can only get a B and C done. Of
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: course E n F could be helpful, but you don't
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: have time to do it. But if you can, I guess.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: There is a couple instances where I've had to trim
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: some you know, some of those branches so a instead
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: of having to touch the branch with my hand and
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: push it up so it doesn't hit me or my
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: pack or my bow I've I've snapped those or broken though,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: you know, cut those off, um, just so I'm not
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: a touching anything or be you know, you know, stuffs
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: banging against me, twiggers, you know, catching my gear, um
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: on the way to the stand. Um. Never anything, you know,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: as far as making a trail is concerned. But I
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: guess I've I've cut some branches so I'm not having
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: to you know, crawl to my tree stand if that
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I've never done like
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: the raking leaves thing because I always thought, well, what's
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: the point of raking leaves in August when I'm gonna
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: come back in October and there's gonna be all these
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: new leaves on top of that. Um. But I know
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: some guys who go in even during the season, on
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: like rainy days, and we'll rake their trails, And I'm like,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: I'm torn because I hate the idea of going into
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: the property ever to you know, potentially spooked dear. But
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I also I love those days when I
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: do have like a trail that happens to be cleared
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: and I can just per frickly silently walk into my
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: tree like that is the best feeling I love a
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: perfectly silent I no, I didn't spook any deer entry.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I I have this
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: really crazy obsession with entering and exiting tree stands. Like
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: my stress levels as high as it gets, maybe hut
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: when I'm going in and out, like, I am so
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: paranoid about spooking deer, and when I do spook a deer,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: like I just I'm sitting there just cussing, and I'm
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: so mad at myself. I'm like, god, dagn it. Um.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: So I just I hate crappy at entry routes and
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: I love the really quiet ones. So I'm trying to
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: get a little better every year making more of those
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: really good quiet ones, because um, it just makes me
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: a happier hunter. I guess when it comes October November,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: there's there's nothing that pisses you off more. When you're
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: you know, you're tiptoeing through the timber and you know
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: you get to base your tree or something like that,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: then you're off. You know that that the does blow
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: and and uh kind of potentially ruined, ruined things. So
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: my heart just sinks, especially in Michigan. Like I'm less
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: concerned in like Ohio or I or these other states.
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  Speaker 1: But at least here in my home stay, I know
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  Speaker 1: I usually have one chance at one of these bucks.
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  Speaker 1: Like literally, I have one chance to make a mistake.
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  Speaker 1: Because what I'm saying, so if I do one thing wrong,
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  Speaker 1: like if I spook them once, that's usually my only
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  Speaker 1: chance to spook that deer that I'll have to see
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  Speaker 1: him in daylight. Um. Once these bucks here, at least
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  Speaker 1: on my proper, my main property too. If I have
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  Speaker 1: one ben encounter, they smell me once, usually I never
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  Speaker 1: see get daily pictures of them. I never see him again.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like every time I go in or out,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just on pins and needles, like thinking, I need
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  Speaker 1: to do every single thing right, um right in gosh
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  Speaker 1: to to blow it when you're walking to your tree stand,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's a bummer. Yeah, but you gotta do it right.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta go in another And sometimes I'm start to
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  Speaker 1: get fired up. I'm I'm really fired up. I have,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, I've been out in Montana and Idaho
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  Speaker 1: last couple of months and been doing all sorts of
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  Speaker 1: other stuff, but I have got like a wicked case
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  Speaker 1: of summertime buck fever. Right, Now, Um, like last night,
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  Speaker 1: I got home and I've got my binoculars on the
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  Speaker 1: back window, and I can overlook this being filled by
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  Speaker 1: my house and we're watching a movie, my wife and I.
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  Speaker 1: But like every fifteen minutes, I'm leaning over her trying
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  Speaker 1: to look out the window. Trustee, if there's anything out there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well I got a little visitor here just came into
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  Speaker 1: the room. We heard that. Yeah, come here. She's just
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  Speaker 1: said hi, Yeah, hey, come here. I know you've got
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  Speaker 1: a mouthful of cookies. But say, say hi, Mark, Hi, Hi,
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  Speaker 1: how are you? How? How? He says? How are you?
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  Speaker 1: Is your daddy gonna kill a big buck this year? Well,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to. I'm asking you. I'm asking you,
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  Speaker 1: is daddy? Is daddy gonna kill a big buck this year?
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  Speaker 1: Is Mark gonna kill a big buck this year? Oh? Man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm doomed on a daily basis. That is awesome. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I really hope she's wrong. Yeah, I know. Hey, Well,
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  Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta wrap this episode up. Baby. This
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  Speaker 1: might be a good might be because because now she's
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  Speaker 1: gonna start crying. Hey, say say stay wired to hunt?
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  Speaker 1: Say stay wired to hunt? No, say stay wired to hunt?
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  Speaker 1: Very good. I'm sorry, Mark, that's okay. Do you really
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  Speaker 1: do you have to go? I really gotta go now.
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  Speaker 1: Al right, Well we'll continue this next time. Then. Well, folks,
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  Speaker 1: I guess that is going to do it for us today.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry for the unexpected ending, but you know that's how
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  Speaker 1: ghosts sometimes. We'll likely have more on these topics as
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  Speaker 1: we continue on through these final weeks before the season,
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• 1:26:02
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  Speaker 1: Dan's daughter said so well, stay wired to hunt. H