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Nick Castellanos on viral Phillies fan incident, clinching playoffs with Mookie | On Base, Ep. 45 · Bleacher Report

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  Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to on Base, presented by All Star Pieces.
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  Speaker 1: Today All Star Pieces, I am your host, Mookie Betson.
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  Speaker 1: Today we got my boy, a two time All Star
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  Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty one Silver Sucker.
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  Speaker 2: Nick Castianos, How you doing, Bro? What's up? Man? What's up? Everybody?
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  Speaker 2: Happy to be here, Thanks, Thanks for coming on the show.
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  Speaker 2: It's really good.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't had a whole lot of conversations, but I know,
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  Speaker 1: I want to say, it was like two All Star
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  Speaker 1: Games ago we had.
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  Speaker 3: We were lockermates right next to each other in twenty
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  Speaker 3: three in Seattle. Twenty three in.
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  Speaker 1: Seattle, and that was a real first time really getting
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  Speaker 1: to kind of like.
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  Speaker 2: Talk outside of baseball.
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  Speaker 4: Just like the brief moments on the bases.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, saying that's not really like a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of talking, but that All Star game, that was our
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  Speaker 1: first time talking.
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  Speaker 2: And now I really.
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  Speaker 1: Can get to talk to you, get to know you
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, fans can get to know you a
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  Speaker 1: little better. Sure, I know you're very blunt in all
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  Speaker 1: of your interviews, So if the fans don't know you
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  Speaker 1: by now, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I won't be as blunt because I don't consider as
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  Speaker 3: an interview. I just consider it's a conversation.
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  Speaker 2: This is a conversation.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes with media, I'll have my guard up because
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  Speaker 3: I know that they'll ask questions because they're just trying
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  Speaker 3: to paint their narrative.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so like I don't know, especially being
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  Speaker 2: in Philly too.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Philly has got to be a
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  Speaker 1: tough market when it comes to writers and all the
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  Speaker 1: type of things. Yeah, and so they you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the questions I hate are like what happened when you
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  Speaker 1: didn't catch the ball. It's like, well, I didn't catch
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  Speaker 1: the ball. There's no other it just didn't happens.
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  Speaker 2: Like that was it? You watched what happened?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I swung and missed at that pitch. It's just
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  Speaker 3: I tried to hit it and it didn't work.
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  Speaker 1: Like they'll be like, what did you see when you
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  Speaker 1: hit this double in the ninth ninth inning to go ahead?
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  Speaker 1: Like I saw a pitch and I swung and I
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  Speaker 1: hit it.
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  Speaker 3: There was there was one interview I had try I
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  Speaker 3: got to walk off hit against the Braves I think
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  Speaker 3: last year. And I mean the question the way that
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  Speaker 3: this lady asked the question was it was marvelous to
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  Speaker 3: say the least.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean they're just trying to do their job.
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  Speaker 1: So we we try and answer the answer questions respectfully, but.
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  Speaker 3: No doubt, you know, you know, it's also a wonderful thing.
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  Speaker 3: You can answer a question with.
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  Speaker 2: One word, okay, so explain.
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  Speaker 3: So a lot of times, if you notice, like media will,
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  Speaker 3: we'll ask a question in the way so that they
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  Speaker 3: can go off of what you want to say. But
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  Speaker 3: a lot of times they answer the question for you
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  Speaker 3: the question, so all you have to do is say
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  Speaker 3: like yes or no.
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  Speaker 2: And then I'm assuming you've tried this. Oh I do
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  Speaker 2: it all the time. Do it all the time, and
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  Speaker 2: it works for you.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it answers, it gets the point across.
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  Speaker 1: So they'll say, like in the ninth inning, you got
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  Speaker 1: to slider down in a way and it looked like
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  Speaker 1: you just tried to poke it in the right field.
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  Speaker 2: What were you doing? Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Well no, because you finished saying like what you finished
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  Speaker 3: saying like what were you doing? Like just like hey,
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  Speaker 3: that pitch on the outer half of the plate. Were
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  Speaker 3: you just trying to take what you can get there
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  Speaker 3: and you know, serve something the other way?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, So there's no explanation, and then you just
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  Speaker 1: let them ask another question if they want to.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, but sometimes like if they'll if they leave an
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  Speaker 3: open ended question, well okay, now I can have room
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  Speaker 3: to articulate.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, nice word by the way, oh thank you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like your vocabulary. Vocabulary is very extensive.
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  Speaker 4: I get that from my mom.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, A lot of times like, well, my mom was
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  Speaker 3: reprimanding me as a kid. She's word thank you. She
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  Speaker 3: would be yelling at me, and I'm gonna i'mna be honest,
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  Speaker 3: I really wouldn't know what she was saying half the
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  Speaker 3: time because there was a lot of syllables and all
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  Speaker 3: the words she was using.
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  Speaker 1: And you adopted that, and now you just throwing nice
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  Speaker 1: words throughout the day.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have like a word of the day that
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  Speaker 2: you try and use.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the word of the day for me has been
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  Speaker 3: pretty much the same for a while, and it's just grateful.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so grateful. Do you try and use that
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  Speaker 2: or you just trying to live by the way.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I try to not use it like in a sentence,
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  Speaker 3: but just try to remember to be grateful, because I
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  Speaker 3: think that a lot of times, like when life starts
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  Speaker 3: going really fast. And then as you have like high
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  Speaker 3: expectations or you try to figure out the way something
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  Speaker 3: should look in your mind or whatever, and it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: quite look like that, you can get ungrateful. But then
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  Speaker 3: just by practicing gratitude every day, you can kind of
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  Speaker 3: just man, this is awesome. Like I'm here in La,
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking to Mookie Best. Yeah, I got a baseball
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  Speaker 3: game tonight where you are for sure?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So I like that. We'll get some
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  Speaker 1: more into into some of those things. But first I
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  Speaker 1: want to start and play this game called on base,
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  Speaker 1: off base. It's essentially whether you in or out on
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  Speaker 1: this on these on these topics cool.
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  Speaker 2: The first one is, uh, you still use a flip phone?
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  Speaker 2: Are you in or out on that? Out? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: So, but it says in twenty twenty one you try
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  Speaker 1: to simplify your life a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't try. I did.
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  Speaker 4: It was amazing. It was amazing. Twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 2: Was you had a flip phone?
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  Speaker 3: Then, yeah, I got rid of it in spring training,
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  Speaker 3: and then I picked it back up when my second
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  Speaker 3: son was born, auto only because then, like Jess wasn't
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  Speaker 3: coming on the road with me anymore. You know, like
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to kind of be there and like and
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  Speaker 3: not be there but like FaceTime and see and like,
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  Speaker 3: oh so you couldn't kind of I kind of just
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  Speaker 3: like man like and I got back into it. But
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  Speaker 3: do I miss Do I miss the days of how
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  Speaker 3: simple I feel like twenty twenty one was, And ironically
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  Speaker 3: it was the best year of.
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  Speaker 4: Baseball I had in my life.
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  Speaker 3: And I just feel like everything was there wasn't a
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  Speaker 3: lot of noise, which was nice.
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  Speaker 1: So all because all because of a flip phone. I mean, like,
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  Speaker 1: what what else did you simplify?
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  Speaker 2: That? Was it? That was the flip phone?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, yeah, I had only a few contacts,
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  Speaker 3: like my teammates numbers. I had an iPod that didn't
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  Speaker 3: have like an old school iPod that didn't have Internet connections.
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  Speaker 2: So did it have the screen on it or no?
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  Speaker 2: It was just like the shuffle it was I don't remember.
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  Speaker 2: It was like the iPod touch. Oh okay, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Download the music on it, but like didn't have internet,
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  Speaker 3: so it was it was nice to not be like
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  Speaker 3: connected to this invisible like all unlimited internet world.
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  Speaker 2: So when you when you did that, you felt like.
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  Speaker 1: When you were younger, like when when you didn't have
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  Speaker 1: not responsibilities and stuff was the wrong term, but when
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  Speaker 1: you didn't have like other things going on, like you
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  Speaker 1: could really just kind of focus and be in the moment.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt.
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  Speaker 3: Okay for sure, you know, like now that I have
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  Speaker 3: it back on my hip, it's good for information. But
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's just really easy to go down rabbit
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  Speaker 3: holes when you have a device that's way smarter than
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  Speaker 3: you'll ever be, you know, so like your curiosity can
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  Speaker 3: get numbed if you have something that can always feed it.
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  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, And that makes sense. And that's when
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  Speaker 2: the flip phone. So why don't you go back because
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  Speaker 2: you can't you can't FaceTime. There's a big part of
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  Speaker 2: me that wants to, uh clip phones, don't. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: dude it, I don't even know if they make flip phones.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I got an old old school and my biggest
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  Speaker 3: selling point was it was like fourteen ninety nine a month,
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  Speaker 3: unlimited text and calls anywhere in the world. That's sign
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  Speaker 3: me up. You just can't face time. Well, you can't FaceTime.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have like text message like I was t
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  Speaker 3: nine texting like where you like or like with being
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  Speaker 3: being being binging big, you know, like you used to
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  Speaker 3: do back in the day.
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  Speaker 4: So like if there was a lot of times I
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  Speaker 4: would get.
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  Speaker 3: Messages and I would read it and I'd be like,
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  Speaker 3: that's not important to me for me, okay for five minutes,
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  Speaker 3: you know, but also too, like no group chats like YouTube,
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  Speaker 3: no Twitter, no Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: But there's also something kind of like you said, refreshing
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  Speaker 1: in that where like now after game, to say you
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  Speaker 1: do good or do bad either way, your feed is
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  Speaker 1: literally like.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, and it's something to not even seeing none
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  Speaker 2: of that.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, because technically it's gone and it shouldn't affect
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  Speaker 3: how you're going about it right now exactly. Not saying
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  Speaker 3: that like I was perfect in twenty one, but I
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  Speaker 3: was really good at staying in the moment, and that
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  Speaker 3: being away from the world helped because the world was
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  Speaker 3: only what was in front of my face.
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  Speaker 2: And they're going to be fair fair weather whether you
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  Speaker 2: do good or do bad. Okay, So next thing, when
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  Speaker 2: you retire, you'll catch a game in the bleachers. You'll
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  Speaker 2: see in the bleachers and watch a game.
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  Speaker 3: Would I, Yeah, I'm in all of it. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 3: gold card, I'm gonna use.
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  Speaker 1: That use the gold car. You see Rizzo right there,
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  Speaker 1: he would Yeah, I know he missed it.
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  Speaker 3: So I was actually talking with Jason Hayward shout out,
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  Speaker 3: and he said that he had this planned in his mind,
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  Speaker 3: that he wanted to do this for years. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: while he was playing, he envisioned doing something like this,
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  Speaker 3: sitting out there. And like the fact that Anthony was
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  Speaker 3: able to do it, I mean, just good for him
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  Speaker 3: and like.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff like that. Career stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: People don't understand, like we don't get opportunities like that
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  Speaker 1: to just go sit in the bleachers and enjoy a game.
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  Speaker 1: And really, because we're always on the other side, right
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  Speaker 1: We're always the ones that are yeah, I mean right now,
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  Speaker 1: But like that means a lot to us, like to
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  Speaker 1: go out and especially for him because he played with
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  Speaker 1: those guys.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he grew up in I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that was his life.
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  Speaker 1: He won the World Series there, so really to get
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  Speaker 1: to experience he probab I has never experienced that side,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 3: I I look forward to the day hopefully that I'm
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  Speaker 3: bored enough after I'm retired with baseball that I can
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  Speaker 3: make my way over to a Marlins game.
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  Speaker 4: So I grew up going and watching a lot of.
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  Speaker 2: Marlins games growing up, so it's gonna come full circle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my dad was good friends with the picture they
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  Speaker 3: had back in the day, Alex Fernandez, So like I
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  Speaker 3: was in the stands for both of their World Series runs.
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  Speaker 3: I got to go to World Series games as kids
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  Speaker 3: and as a kid, So yeah, I'm definitely in ongoing.
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  Speaker 1: And are you going to try and go to all
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  Speaker 1: thirty stadiums to watch That?
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  Speaker 3: Necessarily isn't on my bucket list because I've gone all
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  Speaker 3: thirty stadiums to play, right, you know?
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  Speaker 2: And I got three boys now at home, so you
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  Speaker 2: know you're not time.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: But like to be able to stay local and go
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  Speaker 3: to my hometown stadium and watch the team that I
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  Speaker 3: grew up like rooting for as a fan, to go
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  Speaker 3: back and do that after like my career is over,
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  Speaker 3: I'm in on that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right? So whoever, I guess we
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  Speaker 2: got couple, We got a little while for that. How
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  Speaker 2: many more years you have left? I have one more
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  Speaker 2: year after this year, and then how long do you
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  Speaker 2: want to play?
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  Speaker 4: Until I am not enjoying it?
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  Speaker 2: Anymore. Okay, okay, so we don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it depends on the It probably depends on the
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  Speaker 1: boys as well. Like once they start moving around and
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  Speaker 1: they start playing, and.
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  Speaker 3: Liam's all in, He's already traveled baseball, wing all these
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  Speaker 3: perfect game nationals?
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  Speaker 2: Is that hard to like?
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  Speaker 1: Is it hard to know that he's going through the
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  Speaker 1: same process you're going through?
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  Speaker 2: But you want to be there for him? Obviously I do, but.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, Annabal Sanchez is on Miami said this, uh,
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  Speaker 3: and it and it helped me shift my perspective a
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  Speaker 3: little bit because he was he was retired. When he
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  Speaker 3: told me this, he said, hey, like, I know you're
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  Speaker 3: not there for all of his games, but just by
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  Speaker 3: you being in a uniform and giving him the ability
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  Speaker 3: to come in the clubhouse and be on the field
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  Speaker 3: and watch the art of the game happening, he's learned
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  Speaker 3: so much, right, and like you're with him when you're
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  Speaker 3: not with him, so like, just chill out.
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  Speaker 4: And enjoy the game.
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  Speaker 3: The reason why that would weigh on me was, you know, subconsciously,
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  Speaker 3: I want to be the same dad that my dad
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  Speaker 3: was for me, and my dad was up my ass
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  Speaker 3: from the moment I woke up in the morning until
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  Speaker 3: you know, like I went to sleep at night. So
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  Speaker 3: me not being as present as I would want to
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  Speaker 3: be for Liam sometimes that makes me feel guilty.
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  Speaker 2: But you also have a different opportunity than your pop sic.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like my dad was a doctor teaching me
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  Speaker 3: how to hit. You know, I've made my living off
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  Speaker 3: of playing baseball. And as long as Liam wants to,
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  Speaker 3: I'll be able to give back my wisdom.
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  Speaker 2: To him for sure. For sure. So like you said, he,
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  Speaker 2: like Annabel said, you're always there with him. Okay, So
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  Speaker 2: what about this the ball meaning to foul, ball home
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  Speaker 2: or whatever should always be given to the kid, to
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  Speaker 2: a kid, Yeah, all in on that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I whenever I am.
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe this, but whenever I'm like playing catcher,
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  Speaker 3: I go, I always aim for a kid. Okay, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but you always have that ambitious adult sometimes that will
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  Speaker 3: come and grab it, you know. Yeah, this uh, you
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  Speaker 3: know there is This woman was obviously mad about a
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  Speaker 3: lot of other things in her life, right, so then
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  Speaker 3: this one instance happened. So now like everything that she
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  Speaker 3: has been mad about for years all came out in
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  Speaker 3: this one moment where she feels like this man stole
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  Speaker 3: her opportunity for happiness.
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  Speaker 2: Like you said, it's a ball, I mean, like there's
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  Speaker 2: so many, but I see that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't just see a ball. I see a very
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  Speaker 4: frustrated lady for years.
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  Speaker 3: That felt like she's probably been getting the shit under
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  Speaker 3: the stick and now this thing happened and she's like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not finishing second here, I need this for me,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And yeah, completely was oblivious to the fact
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  Speaker 3: that this man was getting it for his son.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, and maybe she was giving it me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just looking. Maybe she was giving it to her
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  Speaker 1: grandson or her son or I don't know, we don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but I would agree like she she probably had a
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  Speaker 1: couple of demons in there.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, it kind of it is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, I do agree the ball should always go
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  Speaker 1: to a kid, you know, But there are collectors out there.
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  Speaker 1: There are people that when they go to the game,
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  Speaker 1: they want a ball as well. So it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: a thinking from a fan's perspective. It's kind of a
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  Speaker 1: tough situation to because I want to get a foul ball.
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  Speaker 1: I want to take my foul ball home. And if
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  Speaker 1: Nick Cassiana has a foul ball. I want to take
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  Speaker 1: it home, but you know there's a kid over there.
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  Speaker 2: They probably are going to remember it a lot more
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  Speaker 2: and it's going to mean more to them than than me.
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  Speaker 1: So I definitely I agree with you. Yeah, the ball
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  Speaker 1: always goes to the kid, and you know that hopefully
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  Speaker 1: that woman is doing better today.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, the internet has let her have it,
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  Speaker 4: so you know.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see what did y'all say? Did y'all? So you
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  Speaker 2: guys all saw that, right.
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  Speaker 3: We saw it after the game and then after Bader's
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  Speaker 3: locker was next to mine in Miami, so I was
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  Speaker 3: there when our media relations came up explaining the situation
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  Speaker 3: and then said like, hey, do you mind doing this?
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  Speaker 3: And right now, you know, he's awesome, so he was
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  Speaker 3: like of course and went over and took care of
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  Speaker 3: the kid and his family and then some So.
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  Speaker 1: It kind of got through the locker room of kind
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  Speaker 1: of what happened like after the game. Okay, yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: they're in the game, you're not going to the game.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what was up and shout out to
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: whoever watched that situation of what happened and you guys
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: did something about it, So yeah, you know that definitely.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: I think that was also Miami, like the Miami camera crew,
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: they were all over it.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, so I mean ended up, you know,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: and the dad there not doing a whole bunch.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Of arguing and all o this type of stuff. Being
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: the big person. Yeah, he's being the bigger man. And
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: look what what ended up happening. You know, he dave
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: his son even better opportunity. So shout out to the
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: dead there being a good dad and showing showing the sun.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Like you know, even through adversity, you can always still
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: be the bigger man.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: So role model. There you go, exactly. Okay, so last one,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: uncrustables are the best in game snack.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Hey, nothing will settle in over three going into your
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: fourth av like a grape jelly uncrustable.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you that.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: It's funny, is that usually Like so I don't eat
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: that often, but like during the games. But boom just
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: got buzzed up and in h and you know when
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: he's right. Alec is very good at not committing the pitches,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: so he sees that any spin inside the zone, he
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: hammers it. But you know the plan is to get
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: him off that they'll go they go in and and
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: know so like you know, hands and wrists are so fragile,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: you know, so he's just been buzzed one or two.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: So like he uh, he got up and into the
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: point where like he fell down. So I was in
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: my little hiding spot feeding and then he came and
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: I just was like, hey, you know, like we got
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: that pitch too, you know, whatever you got to say.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: And of course, now the whole world knows that I
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: enjoy uncrustables from time to time.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: So do you have those at home?
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: I believe, so I don't eat them at home.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Now you eat them?
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: I only eat like in the dugout, like randomly.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: You know, do you eat seeds? Are you seeds? Guy?
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Gum and seeds?
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: So like if I'm like, if I'm chewing a piece
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: of gum and I like the way the flow of
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: the game is going, I'll keep that piece of gum
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: in until like my I didn't like the way that was,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: so like get it out of eat some seeds, and
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: then I'll put like some gum back in.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Okay. So it just depends on how you're feeling, how
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: the game's going, how the game's going.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: But I usually like to be to have something in
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: my mouth so I don't start biting my nails and
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: fingers and stuff.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: See, I I used to. I used to do gum
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: and I heard that it's not good for your teeth.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: So I stopped doing gum. Then I went to seeds,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: and that's better for your teeth.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't know. I never I never asked. Yeah,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's better. I don't know.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I don't thank you.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm on TV now. So I got my teeth.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: My teeth were jack. My teeth are like this, so
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I had to I had to get them all. I
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: had to get them fixed.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Well, what was you ever hear that song J crooked smile?
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I'd rather have a straight one, you know, if I
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: can get a straight smile.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: If I had the ability to get a.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Straight wife, you care if it's straight or crooked.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: She she she doesn't. There you go, yeah, she she doesn't.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: And uh, but it was hard for me to look
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: in the mirror and see see like crooked teeth. You know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: for me, it was really hard. Yeah, yeah, it's really hard.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: So that's that led to me getting getting my teeth. Fixed,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and in the process of getting my teeth fixed, you
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: cut out gum. I cut out gum.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Started with seeds, and I'll never forget when I was
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: in Boston.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: It was in like the second inning, and I remember
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: diving for a ball and I swallowed about ten of them. Nice,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: and I have not chewed seeds since. So I won't
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: play with anything in my mouth because I'm too scared
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: of swallowing seeds and then chewing gum is not yeah. Yeah,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: So so now I just if I'm hungry the other game,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I just be hungry, and I probably should try to uncrustable,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: though it seems like it works for you, so it's
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: probably a thing.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: It's not always.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think i'd eat an uncomfortable since
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: then it's just.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: A rare occasion. Okay, it's just whatever, you're hungry.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Just yeah, if I'm just sitting there, it's like there's
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: a little bit of frustration and hungry.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, so okay, okay, So all right, I want
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: to switch gears a little bit. You guys clinched the
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: postseason for the fourth straight season, and in February you
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: answered a question and you said, this team has less pressure.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: As a team.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Only because I was listening to everything the media was
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: saying about us after we lost, after you lost twenty four.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do you mean by.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: That, Well, they were just shredding us to pieces because
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: because we lost, right, so that this isn't a team
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: that's going to do it. We need to burn the
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: house down, We need to get rid of everybody, you know.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Like players, coaching staff, everybody.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, great, So like this is the
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: opinion of the media that obviously we're not good enough. Well,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Dave Dombrowski kept everything pretty much status quo. Added a
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: little piece here, added a little piece there, but nothing major.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: You know, like everybody was petitioning for us to get
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: one Soto and you know, like make a gigantic move,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: which I think our largest move that we made during
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: the off season was acquiring Wizardo, which was a pretty
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: good move and he's an excellent piece to have. But
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: so that when they came when the question came around
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: and was like, oh, like do you feel the pressure
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: and this and that, my response like, no, we don't
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: have no pressure, because you guys said that we weren't
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: good enough, Like this isn't the team to win.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: So if we don't win.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Like you guys just to get you guys can now
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: go about and just say that you guys are right,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: like your opinion is right, which you should care about
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: because if you're in the media and you're expressing your opinion,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: you hope that it's that it's an educational one and
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: it comes out to be true and if we do
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: win and that it's just a happy accident.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: And so how do you feel about pressure, Like what
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: does what does pressure really mean to you?
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Well, wanting a certain outcome very badly and not being
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: sure if it's going to happen or not. You know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: obviously in Philadelphia there is pressure to win. I think
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: in just like in La. Whenever you are in how
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: many organizations do you think are all in on winning?
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Money is just I'd say probably four or five maybe
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: so Dodgers, Dodgers, Phillies, Phillies, yank Yankees, Mets, Yeah, the Mets, Mets.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I mean that's for Giants. Maybe you can argue, you
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: can argue with it like that. Nobody like just consistently
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: you're in year out, just puts money.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Like but now let's say like those like for those
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: four organizations. Because the owner is setting the precedent on
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: how important it is to win, the pressure is obviously
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: higher to be able to perform and deliver, which at
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, is something that is extremely
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: hard to do.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Winning is not easy.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: It's never easy.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: And I feel like, you know, when I think about pressure,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: it's like it's a it's a it's a privilege in
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: a sense that not everybody gets the opportunity to have
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: to play for something all the time. And it's hard
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: to have to play for something all the time. It's
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: easy to go out there and just play, you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: not really care about wins and losses, and you care
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: about your numbers and whatnot, but you're just kind of
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: playing baseball, right that that part's easy.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: It's hard to go out.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: There and like have to win all the time, like
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: to to put the jersey on and know that your
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: fans are going to the fans are gonna be up
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: your ass, sure your teammates, the front office, like everybody
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: is fully invested on winning this game today, Like not
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of people can very very few people can
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: say that, you know, and so to get that opportunity
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: to play from that perspective, you know. Fortunately for me,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I've been in two organizations that I don't know any different,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: you know, And so.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Boston was more well, I mean Boston spending money again
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: now right.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: A little more, a little more.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: But I wouldn't say the money the money as much
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: in Boston as was like the pressure of just playing.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Like and when I was in Boston, it was more
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: like pressure because I was so scared to not play well.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Of course, well you're young, yes, exact.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Exactly, so you're scared to not play well because of
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: the outside perception.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Right, and then also the chains is getting sent down, it's.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Getting sent down.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: You want to get you, you want to make your money, Like,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that kind of go into
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: playing right, and and then you add on the pressure
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: of the city, you know, winning and whatnot, Like that's
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: a it's a it's a beautiful thing, something that you
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: definitely have to embrace.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: It's a heavy thing. It's heavy, it's hard. It's heavy
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: and hard because if you don't. I've seen many that
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: come up and maybe don't play well or maybe don't
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: embrace the pressure, and it kind of not.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Crumbled crumbs them crumbles them is the wrong word. But
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: it just gets really hard to handle, you know, it
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: gets really hard, and.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Then you.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Almost kind of fall out of love with the game
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a little bit because it's like I wasn't playing the
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: game for all this extra pressure.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I was playing it because I love it, I know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: and so that's kind of how.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I view the pressure situation and so but being in it, man,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't change that for the world. I
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: think the best place to play baseball is with some
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: type of pressure component to it.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Well, I think the best place to play baseball is
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: just a place.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Where you're in love with, you know what I mean. So, like.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Just being in a place where whatever source of inspiration
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: that is making you go out and allow all of
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: your emotions to come out while you're playing, so you're
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: really engaged in like in the moment, is what's going
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: to be the most beneficial, you know, because I think
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: also a lot of times people will go to the
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: big markets because they're chasing that big contract and they
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: think that like money is the answer, and then a
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: lot of that's another reason why they'll fall out of love,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: right because they were somebody with an environment right where
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: they there was a feeling of who they were as
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: a baseball player. They achieved so much, and then as
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: the reward, they wanted all of this financial security and
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: then they go somewhere else and then it's like now
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: you're starting over from scratch and you don't have that
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: luxury of like finding yourself when you're getting paid millions
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: and millions of dollars. Like the success when you're young
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: is almost like this happy accident that keeps on like
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: happening over and over again. And then now it's it's
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: like it becomes like this euphoric feeling as you're building
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: this staircase. Well, now you get this contract, you go
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: to a different environment, and now there's there's no accidental
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: success like Juan Soto, like his amazing season that he's having,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Like it's not an accident. You need to do that.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: You're making fifty million dollars. That's why you're making fifty million, correct,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: So I mean also hats off to him, bro, he's
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: able to go there and you know, put up those
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: numbers like that.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: But winning they need to make the playoffs.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's there's just there's just so many components,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: and some of that is not not necessarily on him,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I know, obviously it you know, he's got to help
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: the team win in more ways than just on like
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: just performance on the field.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Maybe there's a leadership component. I don't know. I don't
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: know these things. I'm just talking.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: But there's a lot, really, there's a lot of different
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: hats you have to wear when you when you make
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: you know, or any any over twenty, you know, like that,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: because you are expected to bring something to the team
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: that isn't just statistical value anymore exactly. You know, like
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: you almost like you remember when you were coming up,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: like what these veterans could do to make you feel
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: a little bit more comfortable in your own skin when
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: those pockets of insecurities were coming up, just to keep
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: you on track, you.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Know, I remember Big Poppy Petroya. Those these are the
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: guys that.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I probably learned the absolute most from And.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: It was really about not just playing the game of baseball,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: but like you said, like how to treat your teammates
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and how to like go about the day, how to
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: set an example. I mean, it's it's hard to explain,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't just getting hits, you know, it was
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: about so much more than getting hits and being a
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: guy like Big Poppy and those guys that are making
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the thirty men.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, that's everybody else is looking to them
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: no matter what.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: You know, no matter what, whether you have a zero
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: for four or a four for four day, you know,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: are you the same guy exactly?
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Are you true? Exactly? Yeah?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's important. It's important to be the same
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: guy and understand that. But it's it's hard, man, It's hard.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: It's hard. So all right, so I want to talk
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: a little bit of it now.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: About you know, your your platooning in the outfield, which
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: is something kind of new for you now, right, and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: you played one.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Hundred and sixty two last year. Yeah, shout out to
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: you for.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Playing one hundred and sixt two games, because that's a lot,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: especially being an outfielder.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: But now you have a little platoon situation.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: How't necessarily, I don't really mean, like, how do you
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: feel about that? But what do you do? What do
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: you have to do different to prepare? Because playing every
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: day is like, you know, you show up, you get
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: your routine, and you kind of stick to your routine.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: It's really similar every day. But now if you're platooning.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: That means you may go two or three games in
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: a row not playing, so your routine has to change.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: And so like what what what have you done differently
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to kind of fit into this platoon role right.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Now, I'm just trying to be like as most plastic,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: like as placid as possible another saice work, So I
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: don't The thing is, I don't know what my routine
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: is yet.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you got to figure it out. This is
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: your first time.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: My first time is my first time doing it, you know.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: The second half has kind of been tough, dealing with
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: some patelltonitis and my left knee that happened when.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: We were playing the Yankees.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: So I mean.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Sometime like as humbling as this is to say, because
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I get fomo when I don't play, like sitting down
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: on the bench and like watching is hard because I've
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: never done that before.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: But just.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Pick up the guys, right, like yeah, making sure because
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: also I don't I can hit myself silly. I don't
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: want to do that either, you know, likes like, I
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: don't want to overcomplicate it really, so I'm just it's tough, right,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: like I really I really don't. I can't give you
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: a good answer on that, because I'm still trying to
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: figure it out. Yesterday was you know, two days ago
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: was the first time I came off the bench since
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I replaced you in the twenty three All Star Game.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, you know, so like.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Came in in the sixth inning and against a lefty
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: tie game. To know, I got to get this guy in,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: so you know, I didn't come from really the cage
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: or anything either. It's just like, hey, like are you
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: good right now? Yeah, So this.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Is like a it's a learned behavior coming off the bench.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: It's not something that people have. There's an art to it.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: There's there's really an art to coming off the bench.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: For sure, only because like when using like starting like
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: you're starting today. You knew that you were starting when
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: you woke up this morning, right, like you know what
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: your day is going to be, Like I don't, you know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I can I can get there and I can sit
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: on the bench and I can be there for all
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: nine innings.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I can get there.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Something happened in the bottom of the first inning, and
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: now I'm playing eight innings.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know, And there's something to that, Like you said,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I mean Baseball players as a whole have this on
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and off switch, right, no doubt.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: And if you're not playing every day, you.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Don't know when you're gonna play. You can't go about
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: your day with the switch on, because like that's a
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: that's a different But you can't go about your day
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: with it off either, because if you go with it on,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: you like drive yourself crazy.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: But if you go with it off, then you're not
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: like locked in, I feel like, and so I feel
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: like there's a balance that you have to that, you.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: So it's funny. I feel like where I'm at now
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: is like.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: It's off, but I feel like I just got to
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: remember who I am and I can turn it on.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, which is hard.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: It's that's really hard to do, especially in an instant,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: like to just say all right, it's on and then
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: get in the game. And then the situation in the
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: game X, Y and Z is like you don't have
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: time to ease your way into it because I'm assuming
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: you know, when you come in to face the lefty,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: there's there may be there's probably some type of run
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: scoring situation, unless it's just leading off any whatever, you
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: can kind of ease your way into that. But you
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: know it's second and third, two outs, and they bring
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: in a lefty to face whoever Kepler, and you come
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: in to hit, Like, how do you turn it on
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: that fast?
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Because I don't know that I'd be able to do that.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: At the same time, like I don't really have a choice, right, Yeah,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: you don't have a baseball as a team sport. I
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: got paid this money to help the Phillies win a
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: World Series.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: So this is what's being asked of me.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I have to put everything that I know to the
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: side and do the best I can to answer what
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: to do, what's asked of me to do in the moment.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm thinking, man, like when I have off days, right,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: very few, I'm not like my I'm off all completely
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: completely off, and then I got to pinch hit in
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: the eighth.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just whatever.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to turn it on, Like, I
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: don't know how to like mentally lock in in that situation.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: And I've tried. I've tried. I've done everything you know
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: to prepare. I do my routine, I hit in the cage,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I do BEP routine. I do everything the same, But
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: it's just something about that switch that when I when
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I'm playing every day, I can keep on, but when
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not, it's off.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: I'm a lot like that too. I'm either all the
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: way on or all the way off.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So learning how to have that like flicker is new.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: But what what I think is that if Liam ever
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: goes through something like this, at least I can speak
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: from a place of having gone through it in some experience.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: You have some experience.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Liam, I do want to talk a little
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: about a little bit about your boys.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: You said you got three boys three How old are they?
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Liam is twelve, Otto is three, Kobe is four months?
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, So is it Kobe after Kobe, after Kobe Bryant,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: but Kobi instead of Kobe?
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: And so Liam, he's in the scene, he's playing ball.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: What what do you tell.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Him before he goes to these tournaments and whatnot that
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: because there's probably some extra pressure on him just from
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: his outside peers, just from being my son, from being
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: your son, and so how do you help him with that?
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Well, first and foremost is I need to make sure
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: that he's playing because he wants to, and not because
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: he feels like he has to, right, because I know
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: the road that's ahead of him. Right, It's not easy
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: and it's not necessarily enjoyable either. You know, there's a
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: lot of rewards that can come from it, but having
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: to give up all your summers from high school to
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: go to these showcases to you know, hopefully you can
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: get drafted or end up going to a college, but
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: end up you get to just professional ball. You go
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: to the minor leagues, twelve hour bus rides, all these games.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: The amenities aren't great, you know. Now everybody throws a hundred,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: you know, so like it's it's a tough life. So
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: it's just making sure that he wants to do it, okay,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: now that you want to do it. Now if the
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: only thing that I'm going to demand is your effort,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: your enthusiasm, because I know when Liam is enthused, and
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: I know when he's I don't want to say dead inside,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: but I know when you're not there.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: What was there?
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I mean your son, I mean, I'm sorry, he's your son.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: So you know everything about him.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of me and him, you know, like
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: just and even to the way like his mind works
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: and everything.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: That was his first one. He's hit a bunch now.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean he's doing you've been a bunch.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Like for the tournaments, I tell him, So I want
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: him to learn how to play aggressive. So I'm like, hey,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: like lead the tournament and extra base hits, lead the tournament,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: and stolen bases, make a diving play, you know, so
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: like that way, those are extremely athletic things that you
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: have to be engaged to do, right, So like be
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: ready hit to share the ball if you're on first
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: or you're on second, like make something happen. And if
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: you're in the outfield, do something crazy because he played
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: center field.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: So and then let's say after you know, because you're
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: playing two and three games a day, especially his age.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well on Sundays, on Sundays, on Sundays especially, Yeah,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: does he call you, like on Saturday after he played
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: or whatever?
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Does he call you and let you know how the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: game went? Or are you watching it on do you
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: watch it as much as possible?
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Like how does I'm not playing?
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like this past tournament altho. On two tournaments ago,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: like just and I were like walking the kids and
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: walking the dogs in the morning and we're like watching
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: the stuff on Game changing.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: He went off that tournament.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: He ended up going I think seven for seven with
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: some walks one MVP.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: So how does how does that make you feel as
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: a dad?
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying? Are you proud? Are
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: you just like I mean whatever? How does that make
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: you feel?
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Both obviously very proud, you know, but not proud as
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: in like ha ha ha ha, you know, like laugh
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: laugh happy.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: More.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: You know, the more the talent presents itself, the more
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: responsibility can be there to make sure that if you
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: want to exercise and get the most out of it,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: you know, like it's almost like starting to lay the
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: pieces on.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, like if this, if.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: This can happen, how are we going to make it happen?
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: That's hard. That's you got to see it.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: You got to see it, like being that you are
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: his dad and you see professional side.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Well, just as far as I don't know if he's
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: going to be a manor league race do whatever, Like
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but the it, you know what I mean,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Like you what do you want it?
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I see the it? You know?
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Is he going to be tough enough?
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Is he going to be able to get hit with
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: a hundred mile on our fastball and dig back in
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: the box. Is he going to be able to have
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: to deal with some coaches that don't see the it
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: and are trying to, you know, push him down. Does
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: he have those things to get over those obstacles that
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: can come in the way.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know yet.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: You know, I can only be the best sounding board
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: for if that happens, it's gonna end up being his
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: choice on what he wants to sacrifice to be able
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: to make this happen.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Right, and so, I mean, he's got you. And obviously
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: you use big words, so you'll you'll.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Be Sometimes more fancy words doesn't necessarily mean right or wrong.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: You know, Like you ever listen to a lawyer talk.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: They can they can make it. They can make sound,
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: you know, finessing you to do something you don't want
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: to do sound real entice.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: But you know, you know what it is, you know
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: what he needs.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: So he'll be fine as long as he just like
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: you said, if he if he loves it, you know
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: he didn't he did.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: As long as he's not doing it for you, you
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: know that that's what makes it correct.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: I want to make sure that he's just he's doing
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: it because he wants to do right.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to get a little bit about
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: you from South Florida, right, Yeah, and you grew up
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: playing ball, obviously, what other sports did you play?
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I played a half a season of soccer, that's it,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: and that's it half.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: So what made you want to play soccer? Oh? I
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: was five years old, six years old.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: All my other friends on like my baseball team, and
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: like you know, the parents are all friends too. We're like,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: we're gonna we're going to play soccer this year. So
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: signed up for that and they stuck me, like on defense.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: So all I did was get kicks in the shins
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: and it was like that, I'm over it. And so
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I went to go play baseball at PSN, which was
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: a different signed up late.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Did you You didn't play basketball or anything? So you
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: just played baseball your whole life. Yeah.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Me being a major League baseball player was my dad's dream.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: So you know, what was your dream making my dad happy?
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: You know, he came over, they came over from Cuba
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: with the whole castro thing. Everybody in my family on
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: my dad's side are doctors, so he was pretty good
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: to the point where like he could get like a
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Division two scholarship, you know in baseball. University of Miami
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: was like, hey, go here, you do well, you can
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: whatever it is where they some sort of thing with
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: what is it called scholarships or I don't know how
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: that works. But and then my grandfather shut that down
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: pretty quick, like, yo, we didn't come over to the
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: land of opportunity for you to play a game, like
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: you need to go be a doctor. That's what my
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: dad went to go do.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: So he ended up. So a lot of your family
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: as doctors on my dad's side, on your dad's side
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: of the family. And did your mom play sports?
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom played softball, Okay, I saw she was athletic.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, so she loves she's locked in obviously your dad
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: But my dad is locked in baseball.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: For me, wasn't a choice if as a kid, if
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: I was grown up and I was sick, I would
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: stay home from school to be able to feel good
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: enough to go play in this game. Then yeah, he
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: always had me like on two teams. So I would
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: play my age group in the tournaments on the weekends,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: and then I would play on another team.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: That was like a year older than me. So like
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: I'd get my.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Shit kicked in during the week and then I would
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: go be the man on the weekend.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: And so how do you how do you think that
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: your dad.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Not forcing because forcing is the wrong term, but like
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: really being hard on you about baseball. How do you
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: think that shaped you into the player you are today?
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm stubborn, I'll tell you that.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: I'm never It's really hard for me to.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Like not.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Play, to not want this at bat, to not uh,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: I'm out. It's like, and I give this a left
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: of my dad too. It's kind of like a weeble wobble,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: like I'm gonna get knocked, I'm going to come back up,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna damn I got knocked twenty times in
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: a row.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to come back up, you know.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: And it's just I don't know if it's just the
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: nature of you know, being my dad's kid or Cuban
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: men and you know, just kind of being proud about that.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: But I think that a lot of kids would have
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: not been able to take as.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Serious as it was.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: But it was just that good combination where I could
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: I could take it, you know, like the more like
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I had the spark, so the gasoline didn't put out
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: the fire. Okay, you know, because sometimes their parents are
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: too much. The kid will just I'm not doing this.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: We're also too like I was good so being able
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: to know and look around like man, like I'm the
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: best one on this field. And then also too like man,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: my dad's super proud of me, Like that's those.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Are too good. Those are two good feelings. How did you?
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I guess I want to know this because my dad
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: was there hard. I mean, he would let me do
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: whatever I wanted to do as far as sports, and
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: like he would always tell me if I didn't play well.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: He was always telling me like, man, the pros don't
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: always get four hits the game or three hits in
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the game or whatever.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: And you know, my dad is kind of was kind
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: of the.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Opposite, right I didn't play well, Like he would still
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: take me to go get ice cream or whatever. And
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: it was never hard on me in any way, form
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: or fashion.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: And so I think.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I love I loved the game because I genuinely loved
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: the game, sure, and I love playing and I hear
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: like what I hear, you saying is like kind of
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: the opposite, right you you were not forced into the game,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: but like your dad like made you play, and how
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: did you How did you not grow out of love?
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Or like how did that that? Like the fire you
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: just said, how did it stay lit?
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: You know, because if you're doing something that's not necessarily
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: for you, well.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: I can't say that it wasn't for me, you know,
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: because I did.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: I enjoyed succeeding, right like I enjoyed once that I
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: was like man like kids from other neighborhoods and other
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: leagues like know who I am, you know, like once
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: like the start you start realizing like man, like I'm
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: good and other people know I'm good. And then man
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: like I'm good and I'm in ninth grade and you know,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: I went to high school with devn Marero and Eric
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Cosmer and them, so like, man, I'm getting noticed from
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: major league scouts, luckily because they came to see them.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: But like wow, like yeah, they think I have a
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: chance to you know, so like that part, Yes, like
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: my dad's I don't necessarily have a choice, but I'm
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: also enjoying it, you know, So I can't say that
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: it was just like a job from the beginning. But
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: I think more than anything, like I just I also
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: love that euphoric feeling of performing, you know, like there's
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: nothing better when you come up in a big spot
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: and you succeed or you make a play or you
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: get a hit and then everybody is cheering for you.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: It's like it's it's like a high mm.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for me sometimes it's almost about that.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: What drives me in those situations is like the insecurity
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: of failing, like what are the perception and not necessarily
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: that I care about it, but I don't want to
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: give other people the opportunity to say something negative that's
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: that happened, regardless it is it is, but it's it's
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: kind of what drives me. It drives me in those
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: situations like, Okay, I don't want to give none of y'all,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to give any of
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: you the ammunition to write in an article that.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing, dude, And Jason has helped me a
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: lot with this. The only opinions that I honestly care
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: about are the ones that have carried the stick for.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: The ones that have shut on the gloves and put
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: on the cleats.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: You know, Like.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: That makes I'm just saying what drives me, Like I
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: obviously they're going to write it, they're going to do this,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: that and the other. And you're right, like they haven't played,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: so there's no way that you could really say what
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: we should or should do.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: For the guys that have played understand like you're going
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: to fail side.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: And that doesn't mean that I haven't had people that
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: I've played jump my ship. But a lot of times
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: it's not for failing. It's because they can see behind
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: the curtain of the things that can be tweaked or
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: can be adjusted. It is, however, whatever whatever's going through, right,
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: and like, those are the opinions to me, right that
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I care most about. And and also just to be
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: able to have the respect of the players right that
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: have been able to suit up that can be like damn,
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: like this kid's done it the right way.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: And then I know when you got drafted by the Tigers, yep.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: And then you start off playing.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Short, well, I was an amateur shortstop. Amateur short stop
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: my favorite position. I think I told you that on
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: the basis the fact that you're you're playing short stop now,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: you know, like you just did that as you did
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: that as a kid, because I think I was like, man,
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: that'd be like if a team had me to do that,
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: like I'd be in heaven only because like playing shortstop
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: I loved as much as hitting. And then so like
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: baseball was just one It just the flow never stopped.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Also to my add kicks.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: As soon as they took out a short stop, like
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: my add really started coming back, because then it was like, oh,
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: like hey, they lied to me and say, hey, you
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: can play short third base is going to be easy.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: That's a lie. Because third base I.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Felt like I was a hockey goalie that was just
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: over there, just waiting for this missile to be hit
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: at me, you know. So then so I was an
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: amateur shortstop and then I played third base in the
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: minor leagues through a ball with Detroit. My batch started
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: progressing really fast, so they moved me to right field
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: for the last like thirty games of Double A. Then
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: in the Arizona Fall League they moved me to left field.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Right in Triple A, I played left field. In twenty thirteen,
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: I made my day as a left fielder, and then
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: we traded Prince Fielder uh to the Texas Rangers for
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Ian Kinsler. And then I got a call the day
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: before Thanksgiving from Dobrowski said, hey, you're gonna go back
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: to third base in.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: The big leagues. That's why I remember you.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: So then you know, like then, my that I did
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: the best I could.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: But honestly, like I was anxious over there, like the
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: game was so fast, and really I only had a
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: ball experience at that position.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: So now when omarvs.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Scale is giving me the infield insign because there's a
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: guy on third less than two outs in John Carlo
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Stanton's hitting, I really want to give him the middle
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: finger and say, bro, you come play out here.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: No shut you know, like Mike Trout's up.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Hey, never know, never know.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Listen, then I know he's not gonna but I'm gonna
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: play back.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: That's funny, Okay. Yeah, so okay, And so then you
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: end up in the outfield and whatnot. So that I
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: mean that makes sense because the infield, man, like you know,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: last year, I came in and I the game is
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: so fast, and it just it's hard, man, It's it's hard.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: It takes a lot. And once you go to the outfield,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Like if you stay in the infield the game clock
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: and everything, you'll be okay. But once you go to
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: the outfield and you learn that game clock, it's it's hard.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Like especially people that go back and forth, like I
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: don't even I don't even know how you do that,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: you know, like going back and forth.
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Hernandez like amazing, amazing.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: And it's it's seamless. He could play back and forth
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: in between innings.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: He with his on switch is a different on switch.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: His own switch is a different his, but his never
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: really turns off. Oh, I don't know him. I don't
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: know him. Knowing him and seeing him, I don't even.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't even realize. I've been playing with KK for
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: like this, like my fifth or sixth year playing with him,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: and his just never is off. And I think that's
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: the beauty of why, especially in the posts, why he's
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: so good because he never turns off, and he'll be
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: on for nine innings, sitting on the bench, and I
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: think it is fascinating for someone to do that, and
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: he has really learned and embraced that role of coming
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: off the bench or you know, playing every third, third
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: or fourth day or whatever.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: I also think to be able to be really good
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: at that, you have to be able to get lost
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: and loving the concept of team.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, you have to, you know, because it's not
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: about you because at all.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: But some of the best performers get lost in the
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: art of their own performance, and then in turn, because
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: they're so talented, they help and can carry the team
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: exactly right, so to go and to learn how to
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: do both, then you can kind of sit back and
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: look at the team from a completely different lens, you know.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: So you know, I can from being on the outside.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: I've never been around Key K, but I can tell
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: that he's just he's an asset to winning a baseball game,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: whether he's playing or not. Right, Yeah, And that's just
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: And I've never spent a moment with that guy in
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: the locker room.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: That's just from me watching.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: You see exactly And you said lost in the in
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: the art of their own performance. I want to segue
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: into the artists, which is you sure where did that
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: come from?
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: Well, I started making some creations as a kid growing up.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: What's my man's name with the thro Bob Bob Ross,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Bob Ross, Yeah, you say you you and Bob You'll
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: cousins or something.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: Hey, I wish have you ever watched one of the
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: shows from beginning to end?
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Not from beginning to end, but I've watched.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: I challenge you to do that.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Watch it from beginning.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: I promise you on the inside you will feel different
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: from you watch to when it's over.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: So why don't you do it? Since you're an artist
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: you're talking about watch Bob Ross. No, not watch b
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Bob Ross.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: You mean like make a show and paint and do
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: all that.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: You're an artist.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: That's not that I don't Well, first off, I'd like
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: to say we're all artists right right, You're just in
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: doing what you're doing.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: Look at all the things that you're creating.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: You're creating a baseball career, you're creating a family, you're
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: creating a podcast, you're creating an idea that is Mookie Bets.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Look at all the artists that we have right now
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: that are making this creation come to life. So first off,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: let's understand the context of how I use the word
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: artist and what it How that ended up starting was
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen. This is where I got to give
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: credit to my wife. Was we had an off day
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: and you know, like I was the game was getting
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: a little bit fast.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: She's like, hey, you're not talking to anybody, You're painting
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: all day.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Great, So I and I got lost. Fourteen hours went
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: by like that, just creating, and like after at the
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: end of it, I'm like, all right, well, I want
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: to go sign my name, and a lot of the
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: things that I was making, I really couldn't give that
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: much credit to myself because I felt like I was
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: inspired by everything around me. So I'm like, I'm gonna
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: put this on pause real quick. So I just signed
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: it artist, right, But that's not as like I'm not
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: giving myself credit to that.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: It was just like a holding.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: It was just like it was like an LLC, like
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: I'm going to hold, like I'm holding this for now,
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: you know. So then it kind of just came whenever
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: I would get an idea and I would make something
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: that I just wanted to convey a message, because I
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: feel like a lot of times my avenue of creating
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: is like I have this thought, but I want to
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: convey a message to somebody and I can say this
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: through art, So like I'll do that and then I'll
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: just put that stamp there because I think it's going
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: to be interesting to see what comes out about that
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: when I can take this thing that is baseball, that
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: has been in my brain since I was a kid
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: and put it down.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I have a quote from Picasso that I want to
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: I want to hear you dissect. Sure, learn the rules
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: like a pro, Sure to break them like an artist,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: no doubt.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about like, what does that mean
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: to you? Well? First off, how beautiful that is? Right?
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: So if a lot of times when I hear like
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of rules rules apply to structure. Art
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: is the absence of structure. It's creativity in its purest form.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: So when somebody can go in and learn the rules
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: of an entity like a company or a school, or
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: like this podcast, there are some rules. I better not
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: just go off the cuff and start saying crazy stuff
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: because it's going to.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: Get edited out for sure, you know.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: But if somebody can immerse themselves so deeply into corporation,
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: I don't even know the right vocabulary word to articulate
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: what I'm trying to say, to learn it where you
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: can understand it now, and then you can be intelligent
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: enough to break them with your creativity.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: It's like perking them with with with staying within them.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: If that makes sense, No doubt a little bit, because
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: not not like the not like you don't come in
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: with a wrecking ball, right and just completely wreck shop.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: You're able to come in.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: You learn it, you respect it, you take part in it,
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: and now you can see where you can adjust it.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Right, you can make it better and not necessarily better,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: put your own twist on it, whatever it is that
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: makes Yeah, that's what I that's what I hear.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Is like you got to learn.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Where the where the guardrails are, to see where you
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: can play and then make it all, make it your own.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Essentially purest art can't be controlled. Right, it's art, right,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So there's no right or wrong.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: There's no right or wrong. It's somebody can look at
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: one thing and see nothing but beauty and good, and
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: somebody else can see that same thing and just have
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: the darkest and most evil feelings attached to it.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: And that's I guess that's part of being an artist and.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Embracing your creations and whatever it is, right, it did
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: not necessarily be painting, but whatever.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Like for me, my art is when I think about
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: it playing baseball. Like I'm not the biggest guy, I'm
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: not the fastest guy. I'm not the strongest guy, most
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: athletic guy, but like that's part of my art, right,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: My art is being able to be an athlete and
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: to be able to do everything and some type of
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: in my own way. Right, Like I may I can hit.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Thirty homers the same way you can hit thirty homers,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: but mine are going to go three rows deep where
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: years go thirty rows deep.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: But they all count, they.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: All count the same. Sure, my way of going about
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: it is different.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: So it's really I think it's really important, you know,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: talking now, it's like to understand what your art looks
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: like and then embrace it, like stay, embrace your own
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: art because not everybody's going to look the same, and
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: not everybody's going to see your own your art the
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: way you.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: See your hold out.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: And then the biggest way to kill artistic creativity is
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: through comparison, you know, so you know, you look, you
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: get caught up in what Major League Baseball's marketing and
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: who's the most popular and who's this, who's that, and
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: then you're like, well, I want to you know, like
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe I could do it like that, and maybe
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: I could do it like this, you know, and you
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: can really lose.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Yourself.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like draw your own picture, bro, as best
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: you can, as best as you're getting rid of the
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: phone helped me for that year.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Really, draw my own picture? Makes sense? Ye, that makes sense.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, So before I let you go, man, this is
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: something that I haven't heard before, So I really want
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: to hear why and Scooby Doo.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Is your favorite superherou.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: Well answered the question, you know, but what is.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: It about Scooby Doo? Maybe because I think everybody likes
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Scooby Doo.
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: Right, I love Scooby Doo growing up. But you said
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: he's a superhero. Sure, so can you learn me why
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: he's a superhero. I can definitely learn you where he's
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: a superhero.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: Well, usually superhero has a superpower, okay, right, Scooby Doo
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: is a dog and he can talk, right, yes, Scooby
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Doo also well, superheroes usually use their super power to
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: help people. Well, Scooby Doo is a dog that can
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: talk and solves mysteries and helps people that are in
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: a sticky situation because somebody behind a mask is causing
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: some sort of problem and is you know, doing criminal
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: stuff and here comes this talking dog and this group
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: of friends and they solve the mystery.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: And so do you still watch Scooby Doo? It's on
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: my TV now.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: And again, I have kids, I'd rather when whenever it's
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: up to me. Obviously, when the grandmas are in the house,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm My parenting advice goes out
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: the window because you know, they know more than me.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: But whenever I get to choose a TV show for
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: my kids to watch, I'll always go to the older
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: cartoons because I feel they're slower and the colors and
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: everything are not as like bang bang bang in your face,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: changing this that you know. So I'll put on like
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: nineties Scooby Doo or a Curious George or Rats, stuff
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: like that rug Rats, you know, Hey Arnold, just because
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: I feel like the colors and stuff are softer, but
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: also like the plot plays out slower, so there's a
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: little bit more patience involved in watching that show than
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: all of the new cartoons and stuff that are on now.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: So last question, who would be your top five superheroes? So,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: I mean Scooby Doo has to be in there.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: So Scooby Doo's obviously in there because if I didn't,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: now there'd be a gigantic up or call me a phony.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Because Scooby Doo.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: So Scooby Doo's Top five superhero.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Who else? Top five superheroes? Superman, Batman, spider Man.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: I like Batman a lot, Batman, Bruce Wayne, Okay, I
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: like Batman.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I don't even know like because they all they all
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: kind of do the same thing. So there's not like
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: a one that stands out the most for me.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm you know, everybody can and you know just
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: oh the Avengers or those or that. You know, you
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: know what superhero I like that brings a smile to
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: my face is the raccoon from Guardians of the Galaxy.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Oh nice, Okay, okay, okay, he makes me smile. You
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: don't have to go through five because I mean, uh,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: that would be you know, you don't want to regularly.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: You probably don't remember you remember quail Man?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Quail Man?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: You ever remember the cartoon Doug Funny. I'm a little
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: bit older.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Than you, Yeah, a little bit Doug Funny. I just
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: remember there wasn't a cartoon named Doug. Doug. Yeah, Doug
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: that's the same.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that Doug had.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Like his.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Like his in his notebook and stuff like, where he
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: was confident and he was able to conquer all the
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: things that were giving him trouble in high school. And
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: I don't even know what's if you was in high
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: school or not, but it was Quailman.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Mm okay, Okay. So that's so you don't like, not
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: necessarily you don't like, but you like superheroes that have
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: some some artistry to them, not just the simple the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: normal stuff. Not just the normal go save the city.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: You want some context, some personality when it goes to well.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: I just think that those kinds of superheroes are a
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: little bit more meaningful because they can really resonate with
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: the common person in everyday life. It's kind of hard,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: like the Hulk is my favorite superhero because when I
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: get angry, you know, there's or you know, iron Man,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: where I'm gonna like. Iron Man is awesome, Robert Downey Jr.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: Awesome But it's so far, you know from, it's so
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: far from what can actually like happen. So a lot
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: of so I would relatability first, I feel like it's
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: more powerful than just above and beyond imagination like Superman.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: Like damn, it's awesome to be able to fly out
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: in the orbit and go that and then go fast
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: and make a tornado come down and shoot laser beams
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: and knock down a whole building.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: You know, but it's not real.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: It's not real, hey, Bruce, Wayne.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Real real lishly depends which ones you want, like the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: New Batman with Robert Pattinson.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Great Batman.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, I haven't seen it, but I need to. I
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: need to watch that, make sure. But first I want
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: to watch Scooby Do. I need to get back on
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: my Scooby Doo.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: He Scooby Do.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: We'll decompress you, that's for sure.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna get back on it on my on
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: my flip phone. I'm gonna see if motoroll or somebody
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: can send me a new razor or something and we
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  Speaker 1: can go from there.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, you're gonna be saving a lot of money, that's
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  Speaker 3: for sure in California.
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  Speaker 2: Sign me up.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, man, I know we got to go
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  Speaker 1: to work, brother, So thanks for coming on.
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  Speaker 2: It is really good. I got to finally talk talk
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  Speaker 2: to you.
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  Speaker 1: I you know, you hear a lot about who you
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  Speaker 1: are and and like, but I never really got into
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  Speaker 1: talk and everybody says Nick, he's awesome, X Y and
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  Speaker 1: Z boom boom boom, And like I said, I'm that
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  Speaker 1: time in Seattle, those couple of hours, a couple of
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  Speaker 1: days we spent, I really got to know you a
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  Speaker 1: little more and I was intrigued. And so now getting
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  Speaker 1: to talk to you more, man, it's uh. I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: you and your outlook on things, and like I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: the type of dad you are because you really just
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  Speaker 1: helped me, especially with my son. I know he's only
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  Speaker 1: two now, but as he gets older, you know how
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  Speaker 1: to go about it, because it's it was going to
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  Speaker 1: hurt me to not be there for him.
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  Speaker 4: Especially he contracts up.
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  Speaker 1: I got he'll he'll be about eight or nine, so hell,
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  Speaker 1: I'll have a little time, right. But I just know
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  Speaker 1: how important those years were because my dad was with
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  Speaker 1: me starting when I was seven, you know, six and seven,
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  Speaker 1: as soon as I got on the scene. And so
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  Speaker 1: I know how important having your dad there, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: your your biggest fan and your supporter there, especially someone
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  Speaker 1: like us.
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  Speaker 2: Right Gray Gray Area.
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  Speaker 3: The Gray Area moments are the best moments, like the
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  Speaker 3: car rides, you know, or the you know, like just
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  Speaker 3: the little moments of like they just finished eating breakfast
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  Speaker 3: or whatever, because as a kid sometimes it's hard to communicate,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the more like you just kind of hang
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  Speaker 3: around or whatever. Then you'll find those pockets at least
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  Speaker 3: with my son where all of a sudden he's, oh,
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  Speaker 3: he's telling me how he's feeling, you know, like oh
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  Speaker 3: he's oh, he's like it's it's coming out because you know,
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  Speaker 3: like you'll see when you pop in for this, tell
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  Speaker 3: me about your day, what's going on, what's new with you,
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  Speaker 3: how's school good, what's new?
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  Speaker 2: Nothing?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my daughter does that now, you know. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what it's like having a daughter. That's got
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  Speaker 3: to be another world.
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  Speaker 1: And the world will I mean, you've got three boys.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll keep trying to.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, brother, like I said, man, thanks for coming
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  Speaker 1: on the show.
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  Speaker 2: And good luck with everything. Brother.
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  Speaker 1: You know, hearing like I said here in your perspective
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  Speaker 1: and everything, it really made me a fan of you.
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  Speaker 2: Like just and not just baseball, but just for you
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  Speaker 2: in life. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Help nothing. I wish nothing but success for you. Before
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  Speaker 1: I let you go get fifteen percent off your order
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  Speaker 1: with All Star Pieces all Star Pieces dot Com. I
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  Speaker 1: own this, I'm part owner of this company. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna make sure I get Liam and the boys. I'll
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  Speaker 1: bring it to the stadium, give them an All Star piece.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt.
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  Speaker 3: If how many how many of those do you have?
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  Speaker 3: If you can give him to his baseball team, they've freak.
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  Speaker 1: I got a bunch of them at home, so I'll
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  Speaker 1: make sure I I'll bring him to the stadium. Love
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  Speaker 1: that and make sure I give him to you so
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  Speaker 1: you can give them out fifteen percent off if you
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  Speaker 1: are and the code is on base, So on base,
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  Speaker 1: go all Star Pieces dot Com and make sure.
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  Speaker 2: You guys support your boy. I think it's a it's
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  Speaker 2: a pretty neat thing.
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  Speaker 1: So anyways, thanks Nick for coming on and we'll catch
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  Speaker 1: you guys next time.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, bro,