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Hutton & Withrow: Alabama vs. Tennessee Showdown, Ohio State-Indiana & College Football's Biggest Games · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 1: We are out of the gates on sport and state.
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  Speaker 1: Glad you're with us, Hutton and Withrow. Good morning to you.
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  Speaker 1: Presented by Hard Rock Bet. Jonathan Hutton here. Chad Withrow
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  Speaker 1: will join us tonight for Dixieland Delight Friday night in Knoxville.
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  Speaker 1: The show brings us to Gatlinburg and together with Next
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  Speaker 1: Round Live.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, we've got LT. The great Wes Taylor. Good to
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  Speaker 2: see you. Good to see you too, my friend. How
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  Speaker 2: are you, buddy? Good to be around some legends. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know about that. It just means we're old. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: If Dunaway were here, I would have said that.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: He's more sensitive about that than I am. But you
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  Speaker 4: could have called him a legend and he would have
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  Speaker 4: loved it.
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  Speaker 2: You guys left him behind? Uh, he actually does play
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  Speaker 2: by play for a local high school, which you've done. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So they're playing tonight.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So he's got kind of an obligation there. We let
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  Speaker 2: him off the hook.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So he's like the team owner. He's the, uh, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: He'll, he'll anchor it in studio the way, the way
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  Speaker 4: he plays in case there's any trouble.
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  Speaker 2: Because we are old. I will say this is the
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  Speaker 2: first show I have ever done in Gatlinburg, Tennessee. I'm
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  Speaker 2: with you, Lance. I'm with you. This is mine too.
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  Speaker 1: It's also my first show where I've had LT on
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  Speaker 1: air without sunglasses on.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, how about that?
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  Speaker 1: That's true.
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  Speaker 7: So the last time I think I was on was
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  Speaker 7: with you and Jill Savage.
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  Speaker 2: Chad missed that one too, unfortunately. Yeah, he did.
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  Speaker 7: And I almost missed it because it was a late
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  Speaker 7: night dentistry before. But I'll never forget, you guys got
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  Speaker 7: it up early. It was like a 7 a.m. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: out kicked the tailgate. Yeah, and I remember a golf
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  Speaker 7: cart brought me up there. I was staying at the
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  Speaker 7: Hotel Indigo, and I was absolutely still trashed.
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  Speaker 2: So I apologize for that. I had to wear sunglasses.
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  Speaker 2: Different today.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, me and Dunaway. Were you at the one we
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  Speaker 4: did at Sky Bar? It was before that Auburn game. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: me and Dunaway went out and did that one. That
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  Speaker 4: was early. Yeah, that was great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: These guys are awesome because originally we were just going
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  Speaker 1: to have them on individually for a second because they're
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  Speaker 1: coming up. They've got their show here at Tennessee Moonshine Company.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get to them in a moment. They
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  Speaker 1: were like, hey, what if we just do the show?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, why not?
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 2: We've never done this. We're going to be here either way, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We love talking college football. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to talk ball. This is the great
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  Speaker 1: spot about this because you talk ball. You've got the bar.
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  Speaker 1: You've got the shine. We had some samples last night.
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  Speaker 7: Man, I was telling Brianna on the way, I was like,
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  Speaker 7: you know, there's so many different flavors because last night
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  Speaker 7: our host here, Richard Holland, at the Tennessee Shine Company,
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  Speaker 7: he brought out some old-fashioned flavored moonshine.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: And then he asked you, like, what do you want?
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  Speaker 7: And you were like– I can't even remember. You were like,
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  Speaker 7: I want a blackberry. I've got a reason for that.
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  Speaker 7: They can find almost any flavor you want. Maybe a
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  Speaker 7: drop of blood of a young Native American. If we
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  Speaker 7: could add that in there.
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  Speaker 2: It's the taste of my youth. Okay.
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  Speaker 7: It's not even an exaggeration. Like the old push-up, the
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  Speaker 7: orange sherbet pop. They've got one of those. PJ, who
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  Speaker 7: is kind of helping us out here, one of the
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  Speaker 7: general managers here.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out PJ, who had it early for us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, boy.
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  Speaker 7: He said, do you like Bloody Marys? And I was like,
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  Speaker 7: on occasion, he's like, our Bloody Mary Shine is one
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  Speaker 7: of the best. He was like, it tastes like an
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  Speaker 7: incredible bowl of chili.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. I like chili. I do, too.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be chilly weather starting later today. So
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  Speaker 1: we'll get some.
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  Speaker 2: Of that going. But anyway, we're going to be drinking
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  Speaker 2: Shine all day.
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  Speaker 1: But remember, you guys are a background radio. Ten years ago,
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  Speaker 1: we were ten years away from being ten years away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you.
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  Speaker 1: The thought of being in a bar... You know, and
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  Speaker 1: actually having samples on air was just unheard of.
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  Speaker 2: Think about this. You guys may have done that. No,
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  Speaker 2: I can't make this up. Lance has a story.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, when I first got on the air, so this was,
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  Speaker 7: and this is going to date me, this is 2000, 2001.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So we're talking quarter of a century ago. We
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  Speaker 2: had a guy, I'll just say his first name, Derek.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He was our on-site tech. His name was James. Surly
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  Speaker 2: old man. He was a surly old man. So we
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  Speaker 2: would do a show from this bar every Friday night.
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  Speaker 7: And I got called into the general manager's office on
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  Speaker 7: a Tuesday morning, and he was like, you were drinking
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  Speaker 7: on the show on Friday night. And I was like, well,
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  Speaker 7: what are you talking about? He's like, Derek told me
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  Speaker 7: that you've been drinking live on the air. Now, obviously,
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  Speaker 7: it's not a visual medium. So we're sitting there like
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  Speaker 7: the only way that somebody would know it. It's not
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  Speaker 7: like I was slurring and getting out of whack. And
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  Speaker 7: so I get reprimanded. Don't do it again. You can't
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  Speaker 7: do it as FCC violation, blah, blah, blah. So I
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  Speaker 7: go to the tech, Derek, and I'm like, dude, what's up?
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  Speaker 7: And he's like, it's in the employee handbook.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There's no drinking.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I read the employee handbook on my downtime. Anyway.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Back to your point. I mean. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 7: Now we can get away with basically anything on digital media.
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  Speaker 7: I guess if I wanted to smoke a joint on
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  Speaker 7: sport and state, I could do it. There's, there's a
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  Speaker 7: cannabis shop right now.
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  Speaker 1: His last name is McAfee. I mean, I, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what doesn't go really on digital. We also
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  Speaker 1: had a coworker. He was like, um, the legendary classic
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  Speaker 1: rock DJ in Birmingham. And we were working in radio
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  Speaker 1: and great guy. And he actually did a PSA with
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  Speaker 1: the state of Alabama, like the state troopers, where he
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  Speaker 1: drank during his show to show how quickly you get drunk.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a truck driving awareness. And, buddy, he
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  Speaker 4: got smashed by the end of the show. That was entertaining.
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  Speaker 7: Every day was his Christmas party. But I'll tell you,
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  Speaker 7: I started doing a show with him. I did it
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  Speaker 7: for one year.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was 2005. Him and I did a
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  Speaker 2: two-hour midday show. With this guy? Yeah, with this guy.
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  Speaker 2: They moved him over to the sports side. You know
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  Speaker 2: how they do it. Oh, my gosh. Physically. No, I
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  Speaker 2: will tell you. This guy was like I was here,
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  Speaker 2: he was here. He's next level. And I'll never forget,
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  Speaker 2: I had a birthday party the night before. It was
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  Speaker 2: a Thursday.
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  Speaker 7: It was going into the Final Four weekend. And we
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  Speaker 7: get to this place that was called Sneaky Pete's Cafe.
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  Speaker 7: It was right there in Lakeview.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. And right when we get there, Herb Winches,
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  Speaker 2: who is literally a legend.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the radio legend and sports talk radio legend
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  Speaker 4: in Birmingham.
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  Speaker 7: He was doing the afternoon show, and he came up.
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  Speaker 7: It was his account. And he said, hey, we're going
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  Speaker 7: to promote dollar beers. And he was like, do you
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  Speaker 7: guys want one? And we had been out all night.
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  Speaker 7: And I was like, yes.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, good idea.
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  Speaker 7: It's 10 a.m. They bring out the dollar beers. We
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  Speaker 7: start drinking. Thank God we had a girl named Kelly Hunter,
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  Speaker 7: who's awesome. She's done some things on her platform before.
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  Speaker 7: She happened to be our guest sit-in. She had to
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  Speaker 7: drive the show the final hour because him and I
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  Speaker 7: couldn't speak.
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  Speaker 2: I swear to God. And we get called into Ryan
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  Speaker 2: Haney's office. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And he said, I just need honesty here. He said,
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  Speaker 7: were you guys drinking on Friday? I've gotten a million complaints.
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  Speaker 7: And we both looked at each other. We're like, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 7: I thought you said you were going to do the
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  Speaker 7: sling blade. Pretty much. You guys been drinking? Pretty much.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was our man. Dwight Yoakam. Yeah. So what
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  Speaker 2: did you say? I want to ask you what he said.
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  Speaker 2: How did you get away with it?
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  Speaker 7: Well, because back in, like, everything has got a digital
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  Speaker 7: footprint now. Like, in terrestrial radio, you didn't get anybody
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  Speaker 7: who was rolling on that. There was no tape on that.
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  Speaker 7: Nobody calls about this.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the day Clay said the word penis like
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  Speaker 1: 158 times over the course of his show.
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  Speaker 2: It was the Brett Favre picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was
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  Speaker 2: this on radio? It was on radio.
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  Speaker 1: Like a grandfather called in. He was like, I've got
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  Speaker 1: my grandson in the car. And that was the– And
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  Speaker 1: Clay was like, what do you refer to it as
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  Speaker 1: with your grandson? He's going to have a biology class
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  Speaker 1: at some point.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and by the way, Digital, when we got on this,
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  Speaker 7: I think you guys were a little afraid that I
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  Speaker 7: was going to go nuts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because my mouth is awful.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And I have had such a filter. I think I've
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  Speaker 7: only dropped the F-bomb like 10 times in the five
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  Speaker 7: years that we've done it. But the other greats, I
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  Speaker 7: have never held back. And look, I got a lot
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  Speaker 7: of respect for him because of what he's created. I've
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  Speaker 7: never watched the Pat McAfee show, but one of our
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  Speaker 7: sales guys had it on in the office. Oh my God,
• 7:25
  Speaker 7: he dropped the F-bomb like seven times on ESPN within
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  Speaker 7: like three minutes. And I was like, Everybody's worried about, like,
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  Speaker 7: maybe this guy's doing it on ESPN.
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  Speaker 2: Chad and I recently discussed this. Even college game day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You've got Saban. Yeah. He talks like a football coach.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think both of them intentionally dropped something randomly just
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  Speaker 1: for the sake that they can.
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  Speaker 2: Do it moving forward. So the best part was. Because
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  Speaker 2: they could get away with it. The other guys can't
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  Speaker 2: get away with it.
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  Speaker 4: When we first launched our digital platform back in 2021,
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  Speaker 4: we were kind of feeling it out. Like Lance said,
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  Speaker 4: we didn't know. you know, how the audience would react
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  Speaker 4: to stuff like that. I know where you're going on this.
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  Speaker 4: So nobody had ever dropped an F-bomb. I mean, just
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  Speaker 4: very little profanity or anything out of the way. There
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  Speaker 4: was a delay where you could catch it. In radio, yes,
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  Speaker 4: but we're on digital, no. Yeah, when you made the movie,
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  Speaker 4: you don't have that. That's right, we don't have that.
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  Speaker 4: So we were kind of tiptoeing, and we didn't know what.
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  Speaker 4: So Charles Barkley is a good friend of ours, and
• 8:17
  Speaker 4: he's in Birmingham a lot. So Barkley came in studio
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  Speaker 4: with us shortly after we started. And Lance will back
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  Speaker 4: me up. In the first 30 seconds, he'd used like
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  Speaker 4: six F-bombs.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And not one complaint. And I'm like, okay, well, I
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  Speaker 4: guess that's where the line is.
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  Speaker 2: There's just certain people who can get away with it.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. That was it. I mean, Charles is like,
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  Speaker 2: nobody's going to complain about Charles.
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  Speaker 3: What did you expect?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I brought this up with Lane Kiffin. Like, Lane
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  Speaker 7: Kiffin's that coach. If he's, you know, playing, you know,
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  Speaker 7: You know, if he's in a hot tub with seven
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  Speaker 7: co-eds and there's a picture.
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  Speaker 2: If it's Lane Kiffin or Joey Freshwater, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 7: It doesn't matter. Everybody's like, oh, it's Lane Kiffin. Can
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  Speaker 7: you imagine if, let's just throw out, Kirk Cignetti was in.
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  Speaker 2: A hot tub with a couple of co-eds?
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  Speaker 3: That'd be weird.
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  Speaker 7: That would be a massive story. But, you know, we,
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  Speaker 7: and Brown used to work with Kenny Stabler, one of
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  Speaker 7: the Alabama greats. Hall of Famer, you know, Raiders quarterback.
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  Speaker 7: And just, I'm telling you, AFL. fun guy from from
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  Speaker 7: probably from birth to grave but he got a DUI
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  Speaker 7: and you know DUIs now are almost like a death
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  Speaker 7: sentence for a lot of people in our industry yeah
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  Speaker 7: I mean people are like ah it's the snake yeah
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  Speaker 7: so let me tell you they just came in wearing
• 9:19
  Speaker 7: sunglasses that morning we got that for a quick so
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  Speaker 7: I was on a radio show with Kenny Stabler the
• 9:24
  Speaker 7: late Kenny Stabler when he got this DUI and the
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  Speaker 7: story is there's a place uh for those that have
• 9:29
  Speaker 7: been down on the Alabama Gulf there's a place called
• 9:31
  Speaker 7: Ono Island which is it's adjacent to the gulf but
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  Speaker 7: it's there's a little body of water and it's this
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  Speaker 7: private island where you know the nicer houses are yeah
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  Speaker 7: very exclusive yeah very exclusive and it's gated entry and
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  Speaker 7: all that so snake lives on ono island so he's
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  Speaker 7: coming back from the floribama or wherever he is and
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  Speaker 7: these orange peach cops are out patrolling and you know
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  Speaker 7: somebody flies by they pull him over and it's snake
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  Speaker 7: and then he realized it's kenny stabler right he's a
• 9:56
  Speaker 7: state of alabama legend so they're just going to drive
• 9:58
  Speaker 7: him home so you know they know he's been drinking
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  Speaker 7: so they drive him home like snake man don't do
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  Speaker 7: this to us guys i'm so sorry man i appreciate
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  Speaker 7: you i mean that's a pretty good snake i'm so
• 10:07
  Speaker 7: sorry man i had.
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  Speaker 2: Done that in a while because he's been going for
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: a while and you know what's great with that voice
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  Speaker 2: he's a massive guy like he oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He was a big dude so i'm so sorry i
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  Speaker 4: appreciate everything you guys do i won't do that again
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  Speaker 4: They said literally 20 minutes later, they're back where they were.
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  Speaker 2: Vroom! There goes Snake's car. There goes Snake's car again.
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  Speaker 2: It's like Ric Flair. Ric Flair showed up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, and like Ric Flair, Snake was just
• 10:30
  Speaker 7: chasing ass. Like, as much as I can drink, and
• 10:32
  Speaker 7: I'm just targeting on one thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. We got plenty of time for stories. You want
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: a story about Flair? No, heck yeah.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: So I recently met him. He very obviously beat the run-in.
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: This is also random, but Charlotte Flair, real name Ashley. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we've had Charlotte in the studio before.
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  Speaker 2: Nice girl. Sneaky hot, too, by the way. Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: She came in for the opening, the premiere of Craig's Nashville,
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: like Craig's LA.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. And I guess she's an investor or something.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And our producer, you remember Shona?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: From Outkick the Tailgate.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She's now running some things. In Miami, right? Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 2: Miami and L.A.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, wherever they are. So she's coming in because she's
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: helping that with Charlotte. And she's like, hey, we're going
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: to be across from you. Do you mind being a
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: plus one with Charlotte that night?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay.
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  Speaker 1: So I literally just walked across the street that night
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  Speaker 1: as a plus one for the premiere. And it was
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  Speaker 1: a blast. Ashley was cool.
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  Speaker 2: You put two and a half, Nelson? I would have
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: asked for that. That was the goal, right? So the
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: night before, she has Monday Night Raw.
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  Speaker 5: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: It's a Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: And when she walks up, I join them in line.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: We're in line to get in. And would you guys agree?
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  Speaker 1: It's nothing like what she appears on TV. Like it's
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: just very, yeah, it's a, and I think she'll like,
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: it's a softer version of character.
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  Speaker 4: It was a little soft spoken in our interview. That
• 11:55
  Speaker 4: surprised me a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: He was sitting there. I remember she was on her phone.
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  Speaker 7: She had a thing, a Starbucks, you know, very well
• 12:00
  Speaker 7: manicured nails. I mean, she was, it was just like
• 12:02
  Speaker 7: a normal tennis chick. You would see that. It was Ashley,
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  Speaker 7: not Charlotte. It's how I would describe it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So a great night. Now I was asking like, is,
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  Speaker 1: is Rick the same way? She's like, Absolutely not. This
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  Speaker 1: is not nothing like, so a few months later. And
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  Speaker 1: I find that hard to believe, but no, I mean like,
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  Speaker 1: as far as like a, like he never heard at all.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Okay. I got you. I believe that I will
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  Speaker 2: confirm this.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: So I'm not even from the drinking part, but like the, um,
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: so the, we get to the Superbowl this past year
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: and I had, you know, I was, I saw Ric Flair,
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: Chad and I were just sitting at a bar and I,
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: at the hotel, we'd look over and I said, that's
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: Ric Flair. Cause he's got like two, two guys with him. And, uh,
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: I said, I'm going to go, I'm going to go
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: tell him about the, the premiere with, uh, with, uh, Charlotte.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: And so he's getting ready, getting ready to walk out
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: the door. And I, as he goes out the door
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: to the sidewalk, I was like, uh, Mr. Flare, Rick, Rick,
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: he turns around. I was like, what, how was that?
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: And he's, you know, he's, he's older.
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: He's, he's ready to go. It's night or so.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: And I kept saying, Hey, I went to dinner and
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: a premiere at Craig's in Nashville with your.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: Daughter, Ashley. He's like, where? And I was like, hey, Craig's. No,
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: but where was she? Where is she? I said, it
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: was in Nashville. Oh, who? And I said, Charlotte, Ashley.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: And he goes, where? I said, Craig's.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: And he takes off and just starts, like, straight off
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: the street. I guess he thought that I meant, like,
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: she was down the street.
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. And walks out in front of this trolley.
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: And you got him killed. No, like, they took off
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: after him. The women that were with him. And tried
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: to catch him and pull him back. And I went
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: back and told Chad, I'm like, Yeah, he just took off.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: I guess he thought that Charlotte was down the street.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, they literally pulled him off the tracks. That
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: is wild. I mean, it's not surprising. I mean, the
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: thing would be, like, to be able to keep his
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: energy up. I thought he was going to throw a
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: shoe at me and call me, you know, McMahon.
• 13:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that seems like once you're in character. We were
• 13:59
  Speaker 7: talking about this last night.
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: He's the same dude.
• 14:00
  Speaker 7: So we met our guy, PJ, and I don't know
• 14:03
  Speaker 7: if we should tell this or not, but he met
• 14:05
  Speaker 7: Larry the Cable Guy at some kind of function, a
• 14:06
  Speaker 7: charity function.
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 14:08
  Speaker 7: And Larry the Cable Guy, because we've always laughed about this,
• 14:11
  Speaker 7: because we're like, would it be worth the money if
• 14:13
  Speaker 7: you had to stay in character and be that dumb hick?
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: That absurd character. Nonstop. So we find out that he
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: doesn't even have a Southern accent. Well, I.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: That's hard for me to believe, just knowing that he's–
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: he's like the guy who played Elvis and he never
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: lost the voice.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: That's got to be him. But he is from Nebraska.
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: He is, but he did stand up before he had
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: this character. So you can go back and see some
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: of his stand up and it's like, hey, that dog
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: like this.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: But Nebraska is not southern southern. No, that's what I'm saying.
• 14:43
  Speaker 7: But there is that Midwestern accent, and like he is–
• 14:46
  Speaker 7: But the Midwestern accent– I mean, he's.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas southern.
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: He's deep south.
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: But I thought the Midwestern accent is what they wanted
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: broadcasters to try to.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, really?
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Because it's very neutral. Yeah. No one ever says, you
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: sound like you're from the Midwest. No one says that.
• 15:02
  Speaker 7: It's more of like, you know, we're going through broadcasting school.
• 15:05
  Speaker 7: I don't think it matters what you talk like now.
• 15:07
  Speaker 7: This damn fly.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 15:10
  Speaker 7: But the enunciation, it's like, make sure like nobody knows
• 15:14
  Speaker 7: where you're from.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Right, which is Midwest. Which is more Midwest than anything else.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you could tell. It's like going to Italy
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: and walking into a restaurant. They know you're American.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Right away.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: You have to translate.
• 15:27
  Speaker 7: I don't have, to me, a really strong over-the-top Southern accent.
• 15:32
  Speaker 7: A lot of people would disagree, but if I go
• 15:33
  Speaker 7: to California or New York, it jumps.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: This is very random, but I'm going to give a
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: shout-out to Jacob Lutz because it makes me bring this up.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: We don't do this enough.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Since we started with Sporting State, I don't know if
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: you guys agree, the staff, your staff is tremendous.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: They are.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: They're the best in business. Our staff that we have
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: started with from the launch is top-notch. I agree. It's
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: the best group, top to bottom, as far as just
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: getting it done.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody's so helpful. I know our guys back in Birmingham.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Anything they ask for, they got it right away. Brooks
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: and Scott and Tyler, our production crew, they are– I
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: worry about this.
• 16:11
  Speaker 7: Though, because we're so– JT and Mark would get rid
• 16:15
  Speaker 7: of this fly for us if they were here. It's
• 16:17
  Speaker 7: the perfect staff, and I just worry because we've only got–
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: it's a minimal staff. It's almost like a skeleton staff.
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: You're talking about us in Birmingham? Yeah, I'm talking about–
• 16:26
  Speaker 7: And if somebody gets hit by a truck, I'm like, damn,
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: how do we replace this person?
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: When we have somebody wake up sick, we're like, nobody
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: else can be sick. Yeah.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: Like it's, it's just, it's tremendous. It has been a
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: joy to work with. You know, we've worked from afar.
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: We've obviously hung out a few times and stuff, but
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: he was a big time.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Fine.
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: I don't know how you guys found him, but a
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: good job out of clay. You Chad, whoever did it.
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: He has an NDA.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Hey, come here. Speaking of Chad, he's going to be
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: with us tonight for Dixieland delights. And shout out to
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Clay's book, Disneyland delight Friday night. We're going to be
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: at wagon wheel in Knoxville. That will start at 8.15
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Eastern time. There you see it on the screen there.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Dixieland Delight Friday night live show at Wagon Wheel. If
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: you saw them with Kelly and Ariel, it was a blast.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: And we're looking forward to being back there all the
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: way from home. This is how old I go back
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: or how long I go back with Clay. I was
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: in Dixieland Delight.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: In the book.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was in balls randomly. Oh, were you?
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sorry, Clay was with me that day when Trump
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: was nearly shot and killed.
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Clay does a really good job of like, I mean,
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: obviously he's a very good guy putting it on paper,
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: putting this story on paper. But he always, he includes,
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: my buddy Chief, this reference won't do anything for you,
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: but we went to.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I love Chief. He's a good dude. The Mount Cody block. Yeah, Alabama, Tennessee. Yeah,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Rocky block.
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: And so there was a big group and I got
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: us all tickets before Clay had any money. And Chris Vernon,
• 18:00
  Speaker 7: you know Chris Vernon, right?
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Vinnie Verno.
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we took a bus over, and there was like
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: 10 of us. And I got us all, like, literally,
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: I got us like a 10-pack on the 50-yard line.
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: But my buddy Chief had this, like, monstrosity of bourbon,
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: and I don't know what was in it. And he
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: was just– and, like, Clay was even taking.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Sips of it. But it made the point. Which is unusual. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, the details that he remembers.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: The specifics. And he does like to throw those shout-outs,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: which is really cool. Yeah, it's awesome. It's awesome.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: We will shout out Withrow when we come back because
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: we've got his top ten games of the college football weekend.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: They'll kind of go back and forth, see where they
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: would rank these games in terms of just impact, meaning,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: because this date has been circled on the college football
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: schedule since Since the preseason, this schedule came out and
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: was released. It's packed with games. Where did Chad rank them?
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  Speaker 2: thing we did, we hit the state line. That's right.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I got it downloaded. Hard Rock bet. And you know what?
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: It is exactly at the state line.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: That's crazy, isn't it? Nuts. Our technology. I know.
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: That's why you know your monitor. Your surveillance is 24 seven.
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: You hit the state line. It's like, welcome to Tennessee.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: But your, your car says it coming back from Oxford.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: You could do it. You couldn't do it there.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: So we're, we're like, man, as soon as we hit
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the state line with roads, like, what are you doing?
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just seeing how, how long it takes
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: before it knows where I am.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: And it was literally just past the sun. Wow. And
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, man, it is literally tracking me everywhere.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, it is. Not the app, just the phone.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: The satellite itself.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Or it was actually probably LT who wants to share
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: locations all the time.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Do you remember the, I don't even know if the
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: movie is good. I can't even remember. It was Gene Hackman,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Will Smith, Enemy of the State. Yeah. They were all
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: getting surveyed. And that was like. And that was probably 1999, 2000.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Long time ago. And you're like, man, this is never
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: going to happen. We're never going to be there.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Here we are.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: We were probably there then. That's true.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Just didn't know it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: So each and every week, Withrow will go through his
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: top 10 games. And it's just an intrigue, an impact,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: just the massive matchups. And some weeks, there are the
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: weeks where he's struggling. He's like, man, Hutton, I've I
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: initially sat down, and I've got seven. And now I'm
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: looking around, trying to find. You've got to throw in
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: North Dakota State, UNLV. Something like that, yeah.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: It's more and more.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: There's no problem. He's trying to struggle to find out
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: what's a cut. So you guys will just see the
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: list as we go. And you guys know the actual
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: week here. This is the week, the marquee week initially.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Some of the games, like we were going to have
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Michigan and Penn State this week.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: We do, but... Yeah, we do. We still have it.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: It's not what it was.
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: That was not a top 10 matchup. You know, Georgia
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: and Auburn is a great, the Deep South's oldest rivalry.
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: That's not one of the top 10 matchups.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Right. Which I get. It's interesting, yet not sad, because
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: we still have those games.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Right. But now we have even more marquee games to watch.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Let's go to... We'll start with number 10. This is
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Chad Withrow's top 10 games of the college football weekend.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Number 10, Withrow's got... Oklahoma hosting Kentucky. And the Wildcats,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the story of the SEC so far with the team
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that is really the Oklahoma of last year.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Well, they're winning at razor-thin margins. And that's what I
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: think scares you in this game if you're a Kentucky
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: fan here is you've had to go to overtime two
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: straight weeks to get these emotional wins. And you just
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: can't keep winning games like that. That catches up with you.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: That's playing in traffic right there. And you're eventually going
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: to get hit. Now, Lance, on the other side of that,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Oklahoma's coming off a super emotional win over Texas. So
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: I think that factors in as well.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Boy, you think about Oklahoma got 17 points off of
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: special teams in defense. You know, this is an offense.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: This is crazy. You got to go back to week
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: two of last season, the last time they went 400
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: yards as an offense on a power four opponent.
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: I mean, the offense is just putrid right now. With
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: all that said, I think it's a better spot for Oklahoma.
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: Like Kenny Minch, he's been one of the surprises of
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: the SEC. I just don't know if this Kentucky offense
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: can produce against that Oklahoma defense. And Oklahoma still has
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: an elite defense.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: We finally saw Mateer be Mateer. What do you mean
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: by that, good or bad? Good. I mean, he stepped
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: up and made some throws.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, he saved his best two throws of the
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: day probably after the interception.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just talking to Steve.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: No, but wants to set up the field as his
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: best two throws of the day probably.
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: You know, we've got, I would say, four to five
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: elite quarterbacks in this league, especially when Camario's healthy. But, Mateer,
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: when you just look at quarterback efficiency, it's higher than,
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: I mean, obviously you've got the Marcel Reeds and the
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: Byron Browns and pick your Tennessee quarterback on the back end.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: But he's got better numbers than Orange Manning.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Aside from numbers, when I say Stockton, I mean in
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the moment the dude made the play. And that's what
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I would know him for when he comes in, especially
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: with his coach. I just have not seen that.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: That's right. This matters now.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: There's a little confidence there. And the only thing he
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: doesn't need to do is turn the football over. You
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: go back to Red River in 25, he turned it
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: over three times. And, you know, when he turns it over,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: they've got no shot. But, you know, I don't think
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: they're going to be able to run the football again.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: This is one of the biggest surprises to me. Brown
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: was complete anti-Oklahoma.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Coming into the year, I thought they were going to
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: be the third best team in the SEC. I really did.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Building on 11 wins last year with that defense.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: And Mateer slash Arbuckle, it couldn't be worse.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: It only had to be better. And statistically, it's worse.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: At least you didn't think A & M was going
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: to be great. I really did not like Elko, but
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: that's been a weird situation. I just back football coaches.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: This one, I missed it. I missed A & M.
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: Actually, it's not a bad play. You know, I mean,
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: typically Kyle Whittingham is really good. Elko's really good. It's
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: just been a weird year.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Number nine. Weird year. Carolina, Belichick. Best piece of backseat football.
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: Well, you know, they're coming off their first top 25
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: win in the Belichick era. Not that it's been long
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: and deep. It's been a year plus right now.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: It feels like 10 years.
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: You know, the big question for me is Nate Shepard
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: going to play? Nate Shepard is one of those running
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: backs nobody talks about. Manny Diaz, I'm not a huge fan,
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: but he's done a really good job at Duke. Obviously,
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: you're reigning ACC champion. Everybody in the world is on
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: North Carolina in this game.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Duke will win this game. I was about to say,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: what does that normally tell you?
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you about Manny Diaz real quick. He
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: was the former defensive coordinator at MTSU where I went
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: to college. Dude had no business.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: What year was that? I went to college 2002. I
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: remember this. 2006. And he was there with Brent Stockstall. Sorry,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Rick Stockstall. Not Brent. Brent was probably a kindergartner. Rick
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Stockstall was– he had hair.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And Manny was there as the defensive coordinator and was
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: awesome to me. He had no business being cool about like, hey–
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I've heard he's a good dude. He's a great dude.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: His dad is the former mayor of Miami.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I knew that.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Again, he's coming in. You wouldn't have known that. It's
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: like Arthur Smith, former OC with the Titans. His dad
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: is Fred Smith.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. You would have no idea. It's a
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: little different than a politician. If Fred Smith was my
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: old man, I probably would flex that a little bit.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: But he didn't.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: That's right. He never cashed in on that. Neither did Manny,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. You wouldn't have known that had
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: that not been the storyline. Go with Duke is what
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: LT's saying. Number eight. I... We'll see what you guys think.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: It's Miami and Florida State.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: You know, I had gotten a little more hope in
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Florida State, and there had started to be the discussion of, hey,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: maybe Mike Norvell turns this around and saves it. Boy,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: last week, man, they were right back to old Florida State.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, up 14-0, and then Louisville goes 397
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: on the ground. I mean, it was like one of
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: these military matchups you get. Yeah, I mean, Keen Holtz,
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: Isaac Brown. I think Isaac Brown went for like 200.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: Florida State has lost 10 consecutive road games in the ACC.
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: If you go back to 2023, the first game after
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: Jordan Travis goes down, they play Louisville in that ACC championship.
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: They win it in a defensive struggle. But since that moment,
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: Mike Norvell is 10-20. That's hard to believe.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: That is hard to believe. That is a terrible record.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: A terrible contract. We could get that coming up with
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: the dilemma they're in.
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: But you look at Darian Mintzer right now completing 84%
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: of his passes. He's yet to throw a pick. This
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: Miami offense is clicking. Malachi Toney's a guy we hadn't
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: talked about in weeks.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Because they play so far off the stage, basically.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: And I don't even know. I think he'll have a
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: massive impact. But Mark Fletcher, I mean, they will run
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: the ball at will. There's a reason they're a 21
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: and a half point favorite over the Simpsons. I was
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: going to say, Miami is feeling what Alabama has felt
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: in the past where If you go to the game,
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: the fans are going to church.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: They're coming in. The doors are open. They're expected to
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: be there and stay the entire time. They're listening to
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the message. They're watching the pastor go to work on
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the pulpit, which is the head coach. And you cheer
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: on your team. You're expecting to win. You're going to
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: leave happy, and you're going to tithe. You're going to
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: save a ton of money. That's Miami. They're going in
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: for the beatdown against one of the rivals. It's like
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Alabama playing Ole Miss 2020.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: When was that?
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: 2022, 2021. where Lane Kiffin came in and was– this
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: was more recent.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin came in and they were 4-0-5. Oh, yeah,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that was– They were up 21-0 at half.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: 2022.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Kiffin– It was 2021 because it was
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: our first year.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Kiffin did– he went for four first downs– or
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: four fourth downs on that first possession.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Get your popcorn ready.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: The fans weren't nervous. Everybody came in and just kind of–
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: They knew what was going to happen. It wasn't loud
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: at all. They were there at church.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Number seven, Texas hosting Florida. Florida had the upset early on.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: against Ole Miss, and then they've lost two straight. Texas
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: comes in. Arch Manning's not playing well. They're coming off
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the loss. Guys, what happens here? Does Florida get back
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: on track with a run game?
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: Well, you know, I mean, it was about Florida's offense,
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: and everybody was talking about Buster Faulkner, and this guy
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: has got to go on and book him for winning
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: the Royals award as the best assistant coach in all
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: of college football, and this offense fell apart. I kind
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: of understood it against Missouri. It seemed like one of
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: those ripe moments, but for South Carolina to come in
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: and absolutely gash them, destroy them in the swamp, There's
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: a major concern right now, not only for Florida's defense,
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: but now the offense.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Jaden Ball, what, 72 yards last two games?
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: 72 yards the last two games, and he's had 72-yard
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: quarters this year. So that's crazy to think about. But
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: their offense had been bailing that defense out. And now
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: that the offense has gotten throttled back, that defense is
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: just as bad as it has been.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Well, if you just stop the run game, not stop,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: just control it, you're winning, right, against Florida?
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Is that the thought?
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what the last two weeks has happened
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: to me.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: And Texas could do that. Absolutely. Well, I think Texas
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: can get healthy on offense. When you look at this
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: three-game stretch coming up, this Texas offense has been an enigma, really,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: when you think about all of the skill they've got.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: When you bring in Relique Brown and Hollywood Smothers and
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Cam Coleman, to compliment Ryan Wingo and then the way
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Arch was playing in November last year with one of
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: the best play callers in all of football and Sark,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: it just hasn't been there, but this, this is a
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: get well moment for them. And then on the other side,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Bob's going to have a problem with this Texas defense. Yeah.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: And real quick on, on arch. I don't think he's
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: been bad, bad. He's just average, and there's a greatness
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: level with the last name. I think he's just a quarterback.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: He is. He's been a quarterback.
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's fair, but what is surprising to me is
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: he was just a quarterback this time last year, and
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: then he turned that corner, and he started playing really,
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: really well, and I just thought that that would obviously carry.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Over with the confidence, his skill set, and it's just...
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: There's been no corner this year. There's been one quarter,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and that was the fourth quarter against the Ohio State.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Great quarter. LSU hosting Mississippi State. This is not under
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: the lights. This is key here. This is early.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: I think I read this, Hutton, the first back-to-back 11 a.m. kicks,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: not separated by a bye week or anything, in the
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: history of LSU football, if I read that correctly. So
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: I think I read that correctly, which is insane to
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: think about.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, it is.
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: And not that this LSU team, you know, we saw
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: them week one against Clemson. Everybody's like, damn, like this
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: team could win a national championship year one under Lane Kiffin.
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: Now we see really how bad that Clemson offense is
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: and really just Clemson.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: As a whole.
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: But LSU, you know, Sam Leavitt leading the SEC with
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: eight picks right now.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: He has not been good. He is not earning his, what,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: $ 6 million maybe?
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: On the other side, you know, Fluff Bothwell probably won't play.
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: Kamario Taylor will not play. I know they haven't announced
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: that yet. I'm very confident saying that it's going to
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: be the backup quarterback. There's a reason this number has
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: gone all the way to 16 and a half. I
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: truly believe if Kamario Taylor was 100% healthy, this number
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: would be like eight or nine.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Man, think about the hype and the build of an
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: SEC season and where we've been with both of these
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: teams and where we are now on the vibe of both.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: And how we feel literally just four weeks later on LSU.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: It just two weeks after we saw Mississippi State go
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: up and have some upsets, win some games and win
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: games that were neutral against like South Carolina on the road.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Come back and they have the build for Missouri.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Like there's there was a I blame this staircase. I
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: blame this on on on the inconsistency of LSU. If
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: LSU just would have gotten by Kentucky and Camario Taylor
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: was healthy, this would be a lot higher on.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: This list, I believe. Oklahoma State, Houston. And I want
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to get Houston is very good.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Very good. Oklahoma State surprises me. Yeah.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Well, these next two we're about to talk about are
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: probably the two best quarterback matchups of the weekend. This
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: one is especially a mess.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: To make her.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: Who a lot of people now have as the best
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: quarterback prospect in the upcoming draft, and then Connor Wegman's
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: played well for Houston.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe the best. Maybe the best quarterback played
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: just what we've seen.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is. I mean, Connor Wegman right now.
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: Is the top power four as far as total touchdowns,
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: 21 touchdowns for Wegman. Willie Fritz is one of these coaches.
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: We did a list the other day where, what was it, Brown?
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: It was coaches, they couldn't. vote on their own staff.
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: If you had one coach to win one game.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: That's right. Okay. And there was only like, it was
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: from the athletic Bruce Feldman did it.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: There was only five.
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: Coaches that got votes and you know, the obvious Cignetti
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: and Kirby smart, but Willie Fritz was one of the
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: coaches on that list. And, and I think obviously he's
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: done a great job going from Tulane to what he's
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: doing right now in Houston, what he did last year
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: to this year, but Wegman has been absolutely outstanding.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Then Mester maker. That's why to me, it's so surprising that,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: that Mateer has struggled to this level. Yes, exactly.
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: I know a lot of people are going to be like, well,
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: North Texas to the Big 12.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: It's the Pavia idea. Then Wazoo to the SEC. But
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Mestemaker has been fantastic.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: To me, this is a great example of if both
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: of these teams were in the SEC, where would they
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: be ranked today? You know, just at their 18th and 20th.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: And a lot of it is preseason polls and how
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: you work your way up. strength of schedule, different things
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: of the perception, and also the voters not seeing games.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Watch these teams if you haven't. It's tough to find them,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: but watch these teams if you haven't. We're inside the
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: top five of Chad Withrow's college football games of the weekend.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Missouri Ole Miss. Missouri, they finally earned my respect. I
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: have been down on the Tigers, and I mean, I've
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: been against them all year. They've been taking my money.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Well, they finally beat a ranked opponent, and that's something
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Eli Drinkwitz, as much success as he's had there, has
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: not been able to consistently beat those ranked opponents. Lance,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: this feels like a little bit of a grudge match
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: here with Austin Simmons playing his old team in Ole
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Miss against the quarterback that replaced him in Trinidad Jambliss.
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: Well, you know, I think Jamal Roberts made the statement
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: leading the SEC right now in rushing two weeks ago
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: against Florida. And, you know, I thought there was going
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: to be a hiccup last week.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Against a bad A & M team, but they went
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: out with exactly what they needed to do. Took care
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: of business. Now Austin Simmons is viewed as a top 15,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: you know, in next May's draft, one of the top
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: three or four quarterbacks. He's playing at an extremely high level,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: and then you throw in Caden Lee, a weapon on
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: the perimeter there. Ole Miss' defense got right against Vanderbilt,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: but I think everybody's defense is going to get right
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: against Vanderbilt. I think Pete Golding's defense has got some leaks.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I like Ole Miss to win this game, but this, again,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Brown mentioned the fact the Austin Simmons grudge match.
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: You didn't want me. Now I'm at Missouri. I'm playing
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: as well as any quarterback nationally. This is an incredible
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: quarterback matchup. I do think Ole Miss wins the game,
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: but I am concerned with their defense.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Mississippi State ran into a buzzsaw of Alabama. This is
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Missouri's Bama week.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: It's like a prove-it, step-up level type game for me.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, this would be– I don't know how you
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: guys feel. Would this be Eli Drinkwood's biggest win, as
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Missouri said?
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Because it's on the road, yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: On the road.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: On the road and where it's going to propel them,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: just based on the matchups this week. Oh, they're a
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: top 10 team with a win here. Absolutely. And then
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: we start to see Drink become Drink. Right, right, right.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: With the talk. Top three, here we go. Withrow has
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: got Alabama, Tennessee at number three. Speaking of just where
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: you can jump up and really go further than where
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: we thought they'd be, if Tennessee gets this game, Right now,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: they're ranked 14th.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Where do they go?
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: Oh, they'll be, I think, close, if not in the
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: top 10. And you'll have to start discussing them as
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: a college football playoff team.
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the perception of, like, everything changes. Because
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: right now, I don't know how you guys feel. I
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: kind of don't know how you feel because we do
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: the show together every day. Like, the two best teams
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: we saw at Saturday night in the SEC, maybe even
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: the two best teams in the nation with Georgia and Alabama.
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: If Alabama was to go into Neyland and lose their
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: third straight there after them owning this series with such–
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: Bad quarterback play. Let's just go on and call it.
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: I like Josh Eipel. It is baffling to me that
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: he can't get quarterback right. I know these guys are young.
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: That's not an excuse anymore in college football. McIntyre's first
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: start turned it over three times. I don't see a
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: path to victory, but the number's only seven and a half.
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: The public is hammering Alabama here. Alabama's coming off a
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: tough physical loss. Man, I think Tennessee gets under the number.
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: I don't know how they do it. This is almost
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: like my Oklahoma last week against Texas. But this would
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: be a massive upset, in my opinion. It's weird because
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: you see that number 14 next to him there.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I know, I know.
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: And so it shouldn't be a big deal. You got
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: a good defense. You got Deshaun Bishop. I mean, this
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: shouldn't be a big deal, but it will be a
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: massive deal.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Can't Tennessee just play very good in the don't turn
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: it over, in special teams?
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: And Keelan's only had one bad half really against Kentucky. Yeah,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: that was it.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: And if he has another one of those and he's
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: a young player and he's electric, but if he was
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: to turn it over two or three times and Bishop
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: goes 150, which we saw Georgia gash that Alabama defense
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: last week.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: You guys have seen this image.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Pruitt, last time that Tennessee lost. I don't know why
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: he was wearing it like that. Look at that.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: It's just so strange. I mean, it's like he's. We
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: did some crazy things in COVID. That was among the craziest.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: It's Jeremy Pruitt now. He's at Jacksonville State.
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: In my school. So the show calls is gone.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Jack State had to get a waiver from the
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: NCAA to hire him.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: They said, we don't care. We're just going to hire
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: a coach. That's right. I mean, come on. We're Jack State, man.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: We're renegades. What are they going to do to us?
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, that is such a well-respected. Like, if you
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: talk to Nick Saban about X's and O's, like, everybody
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: respects Jeremy.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Pruitt at the highest level. Yeah, I've talked to players.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Look at him on screen. Does Saban, does he respect that?
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: But I've talked to players that played in Kirby Smart's defense,
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: and they will tell you the best defense ever at
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Alabama was Jeremy Pruitt's defense.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: And they played for Kirby.
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: And consider the buyout money and all that stuff. He'd
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: just been, you know, on the straight and narrow, so
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: to speak. He would have been fired. You know, he's
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: at Jacksonville State now.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: How about that?
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Number two, Notre Dame, BYU. Here we go with the–
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: think about the schedules here. Here's the Irish.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: And this will be the game that everyone's circling and
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: watching across the country because, you know, the Irish. And
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: if BYU gets this, now people see BYU for the
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: first time. And I mean that like the majority of
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: the voters respect them because of where they start and
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: BYU now gets the, gets the top five ranking.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Well, you think about Kalani Sataki 28 and four in
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: his last 32.
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: Games, he's done an incredible job. My fear for BYU.
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: I think the atmosphere is going to be incredible. I've
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: heard people talking about this will be the biggest game
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: that they have played since the Lavelle Edwards era. This
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: is the first top 10 matchup ever in Provo. Um,
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: Notre Dame has found the ability to run the football, though.
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: Like 600, over 600 yards their last two games on
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: the ground. And the problem for BYU is no L.J.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Martin.
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: And now everything is on Bear Bachmeier against that Notre
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: Dame defense. I think too much hype here. I like
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: Notre Dame. Hard rock bet. Lay the 10 and a half.
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: This is a really, really good solid play.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just, I can't figure out who this game's
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: bigger for because for Notre Dame, they've really only got
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: two games.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: This one in Miami.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: But BYU, where they win here, and then if they're
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: undefeated and get upset in the Big 12 championship game,
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: they've got to shut it in at.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Large with this win. And Notre Dame still has Miami.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: So, you know, in a sense, it's probably bigger for BYU,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: but I can also see an argument saying, hey, if
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  Speaker 4: Notre Dame loses this one, they've really got no margin
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  Speaker 4: for error with Miami because if they're a two-loss team,
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  Speaker 4: they've got nothing to hang their hat on.
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  Speaker 7: I do think that Notre Dame will get the benefit
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: of the doubt of getting jobbed last year, if you
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: call it a job. You know, going 10-2, not getting in,
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: they've got the incredible brand.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: They call it one.
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: So I still think they could go 10-2 with no
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  Speaker 7: quality wins and get in this year based on the
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  Speaker 7: fact that We're going to have two or three Big
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: Ten SEC teams with three losses. Committees are going to
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  Speaker 7: be trying to decide on that. Notre Dame might get
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  Speaker 7: the benefit of the doubt just based on the fact
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  Speaker 7: that they didn't get in last year.
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  Speaker 2: But this is a massive, massive game.
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  Speaker 7: And now that we've got this ridiculous 24-team playoff coming up,
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  Speaker 7: Notre Dame going into this season, you could have gone
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: on and booked their ticket.
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  Speaker 2: Without them having to play a game.
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  Speaker 1: Bear spelled B-A-R-E, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: And he likes to be Bear.
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State, Indiana, number one for Chad Withrow, the top
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: 10 games of the college football weekend.
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  Speaker 2: My lock of the week is the under in this game. Oh, interesting.
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  Speaker 1: With the two defenses, I'm backing that. What this game
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: will be like for Indiana compared to the Indiana that
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I saw last year. Ohio State, though, man, the receiver alone,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: is going to win the game. Yeah, but Indiana's got
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: two good receivers. They've probably, if you do power ranking
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: of the receivers, you've got Jeremiah Smith and then Beckers
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: and Marsh, whichever order you put them in before you
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: get to an Ohio State receiver. So that at least
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: kind of balances it a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I guess.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Jacoby Jackson out for Ohio State. They're missing one
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: or two offensive linemen. So everything will be on Bo
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: Jackson running the football. You're right, Jeremiah Smith, like you
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: can't scheme for him.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Nope, nobody has. Maybe the best college receiver we've ever seen,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: but that's kind of like the only go-to right now.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: It's like him and Randy Moss is what he was making.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I know, exactly.
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: And you look at the other side, and everybody's talking about, like,
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: Indian is not as good, and they're not because they
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: don't have Fernando Mendoza. Josh Hoover has been really good,
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: completing 68% of his passes, 15 touchdowns, no picks. They've
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: won 22 straight, biggest game in the history of, of
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: that stadium, Memorial Stadium in Bloomington. Nobody's giving Indiana a chance.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how. I don't play 11
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: o'clock games.
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: These early games I stay away from because I've been
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: completely jinxed.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: But I love Indiana in this spot. You do? I do.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Do you like the under? Probably. I mean, the last
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: time we saw.
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: Them play 15-10, you know, before last weekend in Lincoln,
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: that was the first time Indiana had trailed since the
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: Big Ten championship game.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Like, this team just wins. They go out. They do
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: their business.
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: Um, and I watch Indiana's defensive front against this Ohio
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: state offensive line.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I think that could be the difference. Just missing the
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: top 10, Nebraska, Oregon for Chad. Yeah. So would you
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: guys have them in the top 10? Um, you know,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: it starts at 10 o'clock Eastern.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Which is, it's a, it's a late night game. You know, Oregon,
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: obviously without Dante Moore, you'll catch up.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love that.
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Dante Moore, it's so weird that, like, it was
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: a violent hit, obviously, he took in the Coliseum. And
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: then Raiola comes in and plays his ass off.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Incredible. And then Raiola was awful last week. Seven turnovers
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: they had. Seven.
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and you just wonder what he's going to do
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: against his former team. And I think that is one
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: of the great storylines here. And now people watching Nebraska
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: look like the old black shirts, the first three quarters
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: against Indiana. So, you know, I think we've got a
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: battle here. So I would have put this in my
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: top ten. I like chats.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: And I love the fact that we've got a, I
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: think it's 11 o'clock Eastern, isn't it? That's right. We're
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: in the Eastern time zone. It's even late for us.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: It was 10 o'clock Central. That's right. You're right. I
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: like it even more. That's right. Timmy, by the way,
• 43:10
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  Speaker 1: college sports. My first was Alabama being upset by A &
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  Speaker 1: game I've seen from a quarterback on a losing perspective.
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  Speaker 4: It was the best quarterback performance in Alabama football history in.
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  Speaker 2: A single game. It was insane, man. What a classic.
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: And you think, like, maybe the best weapon right now
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: in football in Jameer Gibbs drops the pass over the middle. Like,
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: he catches that 99 out of 100 times.
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  Speaker 1: It ends up with the field storming and the goal post.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just a massive crowd. It's what you want
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  Speaker 1: They were contemplating going down and doing this because Clay's like,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: what do I do? Because he's so happy. He's taking photos.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: We stay up and we just watch the mayhem. But
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: the goalpost, it looks like a beehive or an anthill.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: You know, they're protecting the queen. They're marching this, you know,
• 46:38
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  Speaker 2: You can't do that.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, they're from California. And she's like.
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  Speaker 7: You guys, like, for anybody to scream at a TV
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: over a football game is insane.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Don't move down here. We have grown men that cry,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: and I get it. And it's uniquely American, you know,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: college football. That's right. It's incredible. Like, you know, you've
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: got your priorities, you know, God, family, football. I mean,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: it's all right there. Some put it in that order.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, again, Bama, Bama, church, right?
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Hey, but it ends up, we end up in the
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: bed of a pickup truck because we're about to go
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: back to our Airbnb. And Ubers, you just can't get
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: to them, right? You can't find a car. Well, we're
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: walking out. Clay and Chad were like, let's go out
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: this back area where we maybe have a catch one
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: coming through on accident. And we get to an area
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: where it's blocked off and they won't let us walk
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: through an empty lot to get through and go where
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: we're supposed to be. It's literally here. They want us
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: to walk all the way back around the stadium. Well,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: there's a pickup truck that pulls down for no reason.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: And Clay's like, how much to just get the– we'll
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: just leave with you. How much to take us back home? And,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: you know, the guy becomes our Uber driver. We end
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: up at the bed of a pickup truck going back
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: to our Airbnb, and I pull out the phone and.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I ask Clay, hey, you just beat Alabama. What are
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: you thinking about? And here it is. Clay, you were
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: tearing up at the end. I cried.
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's how much it meant to me. I–
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: It's embarrassing to be 43 years old and cry at
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: the result of a football game, but I'll.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: Tell you this.
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: When Tennessee in 1990 lost to Alabama, I was thinking
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: about this when I was watching. I was with my
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: grandpa who played for General Nealon in the 1930s.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: He's going to cry again.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: Cry.
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: Cry.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: I was watching the game with him.
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: Cry. I was watching the game with him. Tennessee was
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: supposed to beat Alabama. They didn't ever beat Alabama when
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: I was a kid. And 1990, Tennessee was trying to
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: field goal.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: It got blocked.
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: Alabama recovered and made a field goal to win 9-6.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: And I cried after that game.
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: And I was at my grandpa's house in Chattanooga, Tennessee,
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: Red Bank to be specific. And he was so disappointed
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: in me that I cried about a team, about Tennessee losing.
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: And he said, you know, you don't cry about losing
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: football games.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: But I'm probably going to cry here.
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: When Tennessee, when that kick was not good, And then
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: Tennessee made the kick to win.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I thought back to being 11 years old.
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: And I felt like it was almost like cosmic and
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: karmic justice that Tennessee made that kick after Alabama missed it.
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: It took me back to being 11 years old in
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: my grandpa's house in Red Bank, Tennessee, who played for
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: General Neal in the 1930s.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: What a fucking win. Sorry. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Cigars are next.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, definitely. So he's with his grandfather. He's just like,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I can't believe it. He cries at the end. That
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  Speaker 1: is the fabric of college football.
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: Did Clay's grandfather come up with the acronym D-PAP?
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: No, I think it was S-PAP. My God, Clay. Alabama
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: fans killed him for that video. It's so funny. But
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: that was, I mean, I ended up not going in
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: the stadium. We had tickets. And I remember we were downtown.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: We were staying at an Airbnb in Knoxville. And we
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: ended up coming to y'all's house that Friday and Saturday night. Oh,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: that's right. It was a lot of fun.
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: And I did the same thing.
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: I paid, like, this college student, here's $ 100.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Will you take us to this house? Yeah, yeah. Well,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: that was the random guy on the couch then. Oh, okay.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: The atmosphere was so good, I didn't want to go
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: in the stadium, if that makes any sense. Because being
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: at these bars with all of these Tennessee students, it
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: was just incredible. It's one of the best college football
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: games I've ever just watched.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: See, I don't have that feeling. I went to a very,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: not a small school, but a program with MTSU, the
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Blue Raiders. They don't give you that. I don't have that.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: So I don't have the SEC vibes and just the
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: diehard moments. I grew up watching the Vols. I was
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: a fan, but now it's just like I root for
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: the storyline more than I root for the score, just
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: based on what we do. So I'm jealous of that,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: but at the same time, it allows me to just
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  Speaker 1: kind of observe. That was awesome. Everybody that is a fan,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: you're a diehard. That is college football.
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: I wonder how many Southerners have cried tears over it,
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: because this is pathetic too, but I'm a big And
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  Speaker 7: people love this brand when I bring up the Rams
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  Speaker 7: on our show.
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: I'm like, it's my third child. Like I am just
• 51:33
  Speaker 7: the biggest Rams fan you could ever imagine. And there's
• 51:36
  Speaker 7: only been a couple of times where I've teared up,
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: but I literally have when they beat Tom Brady in
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: the divisional game, when it was just the back and
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: forth and Cooper cup catches it. And Matt Gay kicks
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: the walk off and they end up going to the
• 51:47
  Speaker 7: NFC championship. That was such an emotional rollercoaster for me. Like, Again, we're,
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's pathetic, but our priorities, like football, if
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: you have a team, I mean, people get divorced over
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: their teams. You know, we used to make a running joke,
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: like people would hand their wives, like if Nick Saban
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  Speaker 2: With your wife, you'd be like, we'll offer her up.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is the.
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  Speaker 7: Kind of stuff that SEC fans do.
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  Speaker 1: I want to compare that to the SEC and the
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• 52:40
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  Speaker 7: hear people say they've got to reset a quarterback, and
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: I'm like, this thing has been so mismanaged. Like, what
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: does Cam Ward have around him? I can't tell whether
• 54:47
  Speaker 7: or not he's going to be good or bad, because
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: it's such a mess right now. Like, where are you
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: on them resetting at quarterback? I mean, I would blow
• 54:55
  Speaker 7: it all up. I would blow it up. If I'm
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: Amy Adams-Struck, she has 66% of the team. She's the
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: controlling owner. I would try to find a Tom Brady
• 55:05
  Speaker 7: for 11%. She should still be the controlling owner. Get Saban,
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: get Peyton, something, and have a football person running the organization.
• 55:13
  Speaker 7: Right now, you've got a lawyer running the organization. It
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: is Titans entertainment. It is not Titans football because of
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: the dome. Everything under the roof.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: It's about the first event in the stadium in February,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: not about the kickoff next week.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: They suck. They are as bad as they've ever been.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: They were trying to say going into week one, this.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Is our floor.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately, the floor has a parking garage underneath it.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: And it is pathetic, man. It is really, really bad.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: They are the worst, just the four biggest pro sports
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: teams they right now are being represented to a point
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: where they are at the lowest of the low.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: Well, what's crazy, I'm a lifelong Dolphins fan, and we
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: admittedly are in a rebuild. I mean, like, we got
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: rid of everybody. We're trying to work off Tua's contract.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: We're paying him to throw interceptions for the Falcons instead
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: of throwing interceptions for us.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: The key word is admittedly. Admittedly, yeah.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: Going into the season, everybody knew the Dolphins were going
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: to suck. Everybody knew that, right? They got rid of Waddell.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: They got rid of Tua, Bradley Chubb. I mean, everybody.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: And we're better than the Titans. I mean, that's just
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: that's crazy to me. Like we do an NFL power
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: rating every week. And I was the first one to
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: move the Titans in front. And now Jim and Lance
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: both have or excuse me, move the Dolphins in front
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: of the Titans. I mean, it's the Titans are the
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: worst team in the NFL. They are the worst team
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: in the NFL.
• 56:28
  Speaker 7: And Brown was asking, you know, Richard, our buddy Richard
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: that's here because he's a Nashville like. You go to
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: Titans game. He's like, no, man, you can get you
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: get tickets. Literally, you can pick them up on the
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: ground right now.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: To trade a bag of peanuts.
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: And he said, I will go in the new stadiums built.
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: And that's kind of the sad mentality of people that
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: are in Nashville.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm going to wait for this venue. It shouldn't
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: be about the venue. The venue is great. Again, being
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: a Rams fan so far is like the most incredible
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: thing I've ever been to.
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: But it shouldn't be about that. You should be able
• 56:57
  Speaker 7: to go to an absolute shithole to watch your favorite team.
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: But there is zero buzz when it comes to this
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: Titans organization.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Again, they're struggling to sell out their PSLs to the fans.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: They've lost the connection to the fans. That's hard to do.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: They can get it back. They're great. They're sold out
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: on the PSLs and the suites and the big money
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: tickets and the corporate guys.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Right. The Hollywood entertainers. That's the low-hanging fruit, though, really.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: They've got that.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Now, the fabric, they just don't talk to them. And
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: speaking and holding a presser, doing an interview, it's not
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: going to change the team, but it'll change the perception
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: and the direction. I thought of this, like, Elko and
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: how he's at the podium. And it's not a fireable offense,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: the whole cesspool thing, but it's the fan base you're
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: talking about, right? Meanwhile, Shane Beamer and how he's handled
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: that at South Carolina. He's just said that he's owned it.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: And you see the team come back and he stays
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: and that they, they go down and get a big
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: win at Florida.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: I did not expect the way that game. Not at all.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I think that that doesn't get enough credit in how
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: that has played out, even though they get to go
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: to the, no, they're not going to go to the
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: playoff SEC championship. No, but the fact that they did
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: that in this day and age is really, is not remarkable,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: but it should be commended. Oh, if you took us
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: back a week, I mean, it was one of the
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: things we talked about when we were previewing all the
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Saturday games last week.
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: And, you know, my thought was, will they at least
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: show up? Another, you know, just heartbreaking loss. You're up
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: 17 against Kentucky. They walk it off with a two-point conversion. Like,
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: are they even competitive in this game? To me, that
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: has been the most shocking outcome of any SEC game
• 58:39
  Speaker 7: we've seen this year.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:40
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, at the end of the day,
• 58:43
  Speaker 7: it doesn't really matter that outcome, South Carolina, Florida. But
• 58:46
  Speaker 7: for those guys to show up, for Lenore Sellers to
• 58:48
  Speaker 7: play his best game of the year.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: I mean, it shows you they do have a commitment
• 58:52
  Speaker 7: to Shane Beamer. And I don't think he was going
• 58:54
  Speaker 7: to get fired anyway when you started to see the numbers.
• 58:56
  Speaker 7: I mean, that is the difference in the NFL and college. Like,
• 58:59
  Speaker 7: sometimes these cash-strapped programs in Brown, what was the number?
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: South Carolina's in.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Debt right now. Oh, it's a ton of money.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: They can't fire him.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: They've got the bond. that 10-year bond that's coming to you.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: So that's going to prevent them probably from firing Beamer.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: So it's now the dilemma across football especially. Can you
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: afford to fire them or can you afford to keep them?
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: That's right, yeah. can you go the future of your program?
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Can it, or can you afford to keep the company?
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: See, but now in the world we live in Hutton
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: is you can make an argument, which some people were
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: starting to make this argument with Norvell.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: All right, let's keep him in.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: Instead of throwing a bunch of money into a buyout,
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: let's throw that into resources. Let's put that into NIL.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: Right now, here's where you run into the problem. If
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: you're a big power booster, say for South Carolina or
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: Florida state, what's the easier sell for me? Hey man, um,
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: can you cut me a $ 10 million check so we
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: can get more players? Or, hey, can you cut me
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: a $ 10 million check so I can get rid of
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: this coach? They're always going to want to get rid
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: of the coach.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: It's emotional because they want to get rid of the
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: coach because they've already paid for the players. That's right.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: They've paid for the players. And there are some examples.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: You don't have the patience because of the money these
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: guys are making right now. But Tony Elliott last year
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 7: in year five plays for the ACC championship.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: If they would have.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 7: Won that game where they had a late lead, they
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: would have been in the college football playoff. Last couple
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 7: of weeks hadn't been good for Tony Elliott. But Luke
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 7: Fickle's another one of these guys coming into this year.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: There was no chance he was going to survive. They're
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: four in one going out to the Rose Bowl. They're
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: a two and a half point underdog. They're going to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 7: win this game. I'm going to go on to tell you,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: hard rock bet, jump on it, play Badgers money line.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: They will win this game and they're going to go
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: to five and one and then they're going to ultimately
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: be ranked. So there is going to be a contingent
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: out there. Hey, look, you got to give them a
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 7: little bit of time. Got to give them a little
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 7: bit of time. And for all of these, you know,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: to each their own. But, you know, there are certain
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: situations like Mike Norvell. He ain't pulling out of this.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: Look, sometimes it can be a quick trigger.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: And you're out of time because you're out of time.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: It was the right decision to get rid of the
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: coach after a year and a half because you just know.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: I'm okay with that, too.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: But in terms of the Titans, going back to the
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: original point, like they're out of time.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: It's time to speak.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: And even the person who's in charge of speaking for ownership,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: the team president, doesn't want to speak publicly.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: It's it's really really bad and it's.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: A poor example and i wanted to point out a
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: positive one you know which was was beamer a one
• 1:01:17
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. So you used to walk through these woods, right?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Do you think he ever got the saltwater taffy across
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: the street? I bet he got some shot. I'm sure
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: he did.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: His favorite flavor of pancake. How many different flavors of
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 7: pancakes can you get?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: All of them.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, gosh. Flavor of anything of anything. You know what
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: I noticed?
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 7: So the first time I had ever gone to Gatlinburg,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 7: I took my kids in 2021. And the one thing
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: I noticed, you can't find a vegetable in this town.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Dude, your observations are spot on.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: They really are.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: And they're wild, too. They're wild. I've been with this
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: guy forever. The observations are wild. I can't believe traffic's
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: like this. Lance, it's 9.17 in the morning. They're not
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: going to work. I don't know where they're going. Imagine
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: David Crockett. We call him David. David, very formal.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: At some point in a man's life, you have to
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: drop the line. Yeah, very formal. Was David always on horseback?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: I think, I guess so, yeah.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, there really wasn't any other transportation.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think he was carried like Aladdin, you know.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: He could have been a horse and buggy, though, right?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: I guess a horse would be included, though. Probably getting
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: a horse and buggy up these mountains.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Good luck on that.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Some poor bastard had to walk across this mountain. We're
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: going to do a road right here.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: I think about it all the time. When I'm just....
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 7: Not a lot, but, like, if you're driving to whatever
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 7: your location and you look and see how dense the
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 7: woods are.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 7: Like, can you imagine being the first guy? Like, I
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 7: would have gave up. Like, I'm going to get my
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 7: ass back on the ship and going back to Europe.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you have no idea what's in front of you.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: You know, that's why Denver's a city, right? Because they
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: got to the Rocky Mountains and they were like, this
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: will do right here.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: This will do. We're going to live here, everybody. We
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: ain't going over that.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: We're talking Daniel Boone on the way here with Lutz,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, he's bluegrass standing like, Well,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: he just decided to stop randomly.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: He knew when to stop. Well, you have to, right?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: That's right. You're going to give out. Yeah, but what
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: if it's better ahead? You know, I'm just saying. You
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: never know. It wasn't. You never know. On the other
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: side of the Rockies, pretty good land. What's better for Alabama?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Is this the right matchup ahead of what was Georgia?
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, going back before the year, you know,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: we talked a lot about, obviously, Alabama, and we talked
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: to a lot of Alabama fans.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: It was this four-game gauntlet that was coming up for Alabama.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 7: And it began with Georgia. Nobody really realized how good
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 7: Mississippi State was going to be. So that looks a
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 7: little different. But Tennessee looked like that was going to
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 7: be a menacing game and one of the more difficult games.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 7: And now I know they got the 14 next to them.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 7: They've only got the one loss, a three-point loss to Texas.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 7: It just doesn't look like the mountain that they were
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 7: going to have to climb before. And I think a
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: lot of it is just the quarterback position right now.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: So let's give our picks for Tennessee and Alabama. Knoxville,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: the setting– mid-afternoon on the national broadcast, the moment, third
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Saturday in October.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Where are we going with this, bro?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be like Alabama 28-17. I
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: think Tennessee can hang in there with them, but I
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: think this Crimson Tide offense is just too good. Now,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: Georgia found ways to slow it down, but I know
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: Tennessee's defense is good. That's an elite Georgia defense there.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: I think Keelan Russell has played well on the road
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: for the most part. He struggled a little bit early
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: against Kentucky. I think Alabama 28-17.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: I am going to say low scoring. Low, okay, take
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: the under?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, high pull is going to obviously try to dictate
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 7: tempo in this game. Alabama only three points against that
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: Georgia defense at home after scoring 45 points in their
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 7: first five games. I think Tennessee's defense with this atmosphere,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 7: atmosphere is real. Neyland is real. When Tennessee's good, it's
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 7: the loudest I've ever heard. I think Deshaun Bishop running
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 7: the football, 2013 Alabama. I think Alabama escapes, but really,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 7: really tight. George McIntyre, can he stay on time? Alabama's
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 7: going to set up to stop the run. Can he
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 7: stay on.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Time and get into a rhythm? Of course, the turnovers
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: and different things, but I think he needs a big
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: run as well. Just move the change and cash in
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: in the red zone. If he does that, this game
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: is close, very close. I think Bama, based on quarterback
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: play and just overall team, I think matchup-wise, talent for talent,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Tennessee's got a great ability here. They don't have the
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: checkmark at quarterback. I think that gets it done. I
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: think it's 28-17, the final score.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Alabama? Alabama. Okay, we got the same score. That's probably
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: bad news for that score. I'm going to take it
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: right now. A quarterback matchup is a mismatch.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 7: And McIntyre, good news is he got his first start
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 7: under his belt, but turned it over three times against Arkansas.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 7: completely different Cain Womack defense he will see. But I've
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 7: just got that feeling that Tennessee will keep this game close.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: I think it's close, yes, because of the conservative nature
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: the high ball has to play with.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: It has to. And that ultimately is what you don't
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: have to do with Bama. That's what I loved about 2022,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: going into that game, you knew it was going to
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: be a track meet. And it was.
• 1:07:08
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  Speaker 1: I always go with a Derrick Henry anytime touchdown. I
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: say that.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: We don't have to show that.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: That's perpetual. Yeah, it's perpetual. The odds of him scoring
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: two in a game are like plus 200.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: That's nuts just to get two touchdowns in the NFL.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: But I'm going that in the NFL this week with
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor as well. He's going to have at least
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: two touchdowns rushing. Give me Cam Ward under 202 yards passing.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: That's perpetual.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. It is under 202 yards passing. He hasn't
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: had a 300-yard game yet in his career. He had
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: 34 of them in college. And I'm taking Derrick Henry
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: under the total of rushing yards for him. I'm going
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: under total rushing yards. Again, he's still going to score
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: a touchdown. Where are you going?
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go to the Eagles at Carolina. Unfortunately,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts battling a blood clot in his leg. That's
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: a little bit scary. Hopefully everything turns out OK, but
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: he's not going to play Sunday and they are already.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Down a ton on that team.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take them under 14 and a half
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: team total under 14 and a half for the Eagles.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: It seems obvious they're going to struggle offensively, even though
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: Carolina's defense isn't amazing.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I think they're on their fourth back running back.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Saquon's out. Smith is out. Yeah, Will Shipley. Will Shipley.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: It was his third. That was his third, right? Or
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: was he the backup?
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: It was third, yeah. Tank was the backup. Tank Bixby, yeah.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Saw him. They're a mess. That's a great one. Under
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: 14 and a half. Okay. Okay, very random on mine
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: because nobody's going to want to watch. Can we make
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: this a lock for you? The Saints and the Giants. Yeah,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: I'll lock this.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 7: Quietly, Isaiah Likely has become a big-time target for the
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 7: New York Giants.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: He leads the team with 33 receptions.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 7: If you look at primary tight ends against this Saints defense,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 7: they have averaged 60 yards receiving per game. I'm getting
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 7: Isaiah Likely the primary receiver right now, even over Malik Neighbors.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 7: I know it's Jameis Winston. The quarterback situation scares me
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 7: a little bit. Although he is a veteran, he's gotten
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 7: a little bit better each and every week.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: But I like the over 50 receiving yards for Isaiah Likely.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: I'm taking the lock. I'm playing that. My lock of
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: the week, by the way, a hard rock lock, Give
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: me the under in the total for, I've got that
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: at 41.5.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: I got it before it went to 40.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: I've got Indiana, Ohio State under 41.5. Withrow is going
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Tulane in his lock. Did they win last night?
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: No, this tonight. I'm sorry, tonight. He's got plus 6.5.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Against Memphis. Not the money line, plus 6.5. Lance gave
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: that a groan, by the way. He is 14-1 on
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: Friday night picks.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Hey, look. Don't groan. No, I'm not saying. He is 14-1.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 7: I groaned at Tulane overall right now, where this program
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 7: is from.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, I got you. To Will Hall. They're 2-3 right now.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 7: They should never be catching points at home, at least
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 7: from Willie Fritz to John Summerall. Now you're catching six
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 7: and a half against Charles Huff in year one.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, again, you go with Withrow on this, just based
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: on the heat streak. He dominated Friday night.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: The heat streak's getting it done. He nearly said just
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: money line.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: On the game. I mean, I like Tulane tonight, too.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: I would take the 6.5.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: They've been rough this year, but I do like them tonight.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Whenever I leave town, I always think it's a Friday.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: That's why I thought yesterday was Friday.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: I'm glad it's Friday and not Saturday. Let's slow the
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: weekend down.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Tonight's going to feel like the weekend because we're going
• 1:11:19
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• 1:11:23
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• 1:11:27
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been great hosts.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: Tennessee Shine Company right here on the main drag in Gatlinburg.
• 1:11:44
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• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: the Strip, the main drag, the Gatlinburg Parkway. It is
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: a long Strip. It is a long Strip.
• 1:11:49
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• 1:11:51
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• 1:11:52
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• 1:11:56
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• 1:11:58
  Speaker 7: but I'm looking at peanut butter, caramel, coffee. Bourbon, peach, espresso. S'mores.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: Cinnamon, caramel. Yeah. We've got a lot. So come try
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  Speaker 2: whatever you want. We're going to be down here hanging out.
• 1:12:09
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• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: If you want an old-fashioned, they can make it exactly
• 1:12:16
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• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: the old-school drink till you're blind used to come from
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: the moonshine because if you drank bad shine, you could
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: literally go blind. And I remember in high school, we
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: would have people that would bring shine around. The taste, like,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: it literally was... chemical next level the worst taste ever
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: but if you wanted to get somewhere you've never been
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: drink some old school shine you think it was that
• 1:12:37
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  Speaker 2: Know it and maybe maybe a little little little bit
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: of both maybe hey again.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Looking forward to tonight and uh looking forward to our
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: coming up with jason swain's going to continue the conversation
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: about tennessee and alabama uh i'm glad we have him
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: on because um He is pissed off for greatness about
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: this game. He doesn't get nervous as a fan, as
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: a former player, as a broadcaster now alongside Mike Keith,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: the voice of the Vols.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: He's in the booth as the analyst. He is pissed off.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: Alabama native. Means a lot. Huntsville. Like Joey Kent. It's
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: still random.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 7: I can't get my head around Mike Keith because I
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 7: heard him in the corner the other day against Texas.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 7: I was going running errands in between, and I was like, damn,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 7: it's just so weird because I heard about the Titans forever.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Jason Swain joins us next right here on Hutton & Withrow.
• 1:13:25
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• 1:13:30
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• 1:13:35
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• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: coming up on Saturday, Tennessee and Alabama, 3.30 Eastern kickoff.
• 1:13:43
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• 1:13:48
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  Speaker 3: What's up, Wes?
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Pretty big game. Bama or Florida for you? What you mean?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: When you played, who did you hate worse?
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's Alabama. All day long. Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I didn't really have a strong hate for Florida.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: But Alabama, I'm originally from Huntsville, Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: I had an interesting recruitment by those guys and You
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: know what?
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: So did Joey Kitt.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: Every year, man, I circle that thing on the calendar. So, man,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: this one means everything to me. It's not a normal game.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: I don't know why coaches keep saying that, but it's
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: not a normal game. They smoke cigars in this one
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: for a reason, right?
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, as a player, I would want an abnormal game.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: I would want this to be what it is, right?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: I know that's to keep your powder dry during the week.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, it's not like the players don't know.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: And the fans certainly let them know. That's what makes
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: college football great. It's uniquely United States of America, the
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: college football game. And it's because of this passion.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this game means so much to so many people. And,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: you know, you get old school Tennessee fans. You know,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: they tell you who they dislike the most is Alabama.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 5: You get some of the younger Tennessee fans, they'll tell
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: you they probably dislike Florida the most. But, This game
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: has so much rich history. Two legendary coaches involved. Coach
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: General Nealon and Paul Bear Bryant. Think about Coach Fulmer
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: and his Hall of Fame career and what he was
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: able to do. Alabama, so many great players in their history. Tennessee,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: so many great players in our history. You've got two
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 5: teams that already have one loss and they're trying to
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: avoid their second loss of the season. They're trying to
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 5: stay in the hunt to get to the playoffs. So,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot riding on this game for sure.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: And you know this, but the five straight matchups now
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: with the two teams both being in the top 15,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: and that's due to Tennessee climbing the ranks once NIL opened.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: They were able to dive right in. Alabama didn't necessarily
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: do that because they had Saban. And Tennessee rose in
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: the ranks. I mean, that's credit to leadership at Tennessee
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: having the foresight to do it. but it also shows
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: where Tennessee was versus where they are. How much have
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: they closed the gap to the top? Alabama was there.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Georgia is there. I don't know if there's a dominant
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: team like we've seen in the past, but Tennessee's just
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: about there. But they've had their success at home recently
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: with Heupel against Alabama. I think the record's 1-1 against DeBoer.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think if you ask Tennessee fans,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: they're happy with what Hypo has been able to do
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: since he's been here. But they want more. And I
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: want more. Hypo wants more. We all want more. When
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: you look at the amount of support that our head
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: coaches get here at the University of Tennessee, they are
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: equipped with the tools to go out and win a championship.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 5: So that's the goal. That's something that we're not shying
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: away from. It's not like it's something that we have
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: done a lot of since 1998. But that's why we're
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: trying to get back there. And so, yeah, the gap
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: has closed. Alabama's a really good football team. I think
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: they're a top five football team. I thought Texas was
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: a top five football team. I didn't think Texas was
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: the number one team when we played them, but I
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: thought they were a top five team with probably the
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: most talent, you know, in the country. I think Alabama
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: is a top five football team without having a top
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: talent in the country. So that tells you, you know,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: the job that Caleb DeBoer has done, those players have done. And, man,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: Tennessee has a hell of an opportunity, man. I mean,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: we're talking about a defense that was one of the
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: worst in the league last year. And right now they're
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: one of the best, you know, in the country, led
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: by one of the best players in the country in
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: Xavier Gilliam. And so, man, it's a heck of an opportunity.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: Tennessee had an opportunity to beat Texas at home. A team, again,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: that was filled with a ton of talent. And I
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 5: think Tennessee let one get away. Here's an opportunity against
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: Alabama again. to kind of prove that you kind of
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: learned your lesson, you learned from your mistakes, and you
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: can fix those and go out there and try to
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: get a win against a top-five caliber football team.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: When you watch Bama now with DeBoer, is there any
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: area you point to like, okay, that's different than the
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: Saban era? Have they transitioned to something at a position
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: in a way that they go about things? Have you
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: noticed anything different that, not necessarily an advantage for the Vols,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: But it's just kind of a mix-up that has the
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: signature of DeBoer instead of Nick Saban.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's certainly adapted.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: We're talking about Nick Saban.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: Sure, oh yeah.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: You know, arguably the best of all time. I think
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: the biggest difference between last year's team with Alabama this
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: year's team is what Nick Saban's team's had.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: And that was the toughness. That greediness.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, they're running the football better. They're stopping the run.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: The mental toughness stuff is a little bit better. They
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 5: had some errors in that Georgia game, but I think
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: this is the Boers' best team because of that toughness
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: element that they bring to the table. That's something that
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: you always saw in Alabama's team. When Tennessee was able
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 5: to beat Alabama when Nick Saban was there in 22,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: Tennessee brought that toughness.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: To the game.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: That's why Tennessee was able to win you know, late
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: in that one in 2022.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: That's one of the best college football games I've watched,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: you know, like in person.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, it's definitely one of the best, for sure.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: One of the best performances as a quarterback in a
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: loss by Young. Like, it was fantastic, man. And you
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: know what? You brought up the mental toughness. I think
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: the discipline area is where maybe Bama is not a
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: full step back, but they're certainly not going to have
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: that penalty, I don't think, if Nick Saban's the head coach.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: They're certainly going to get the flag if Nick Saban's
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: the head coach at home, too. That's where it's different
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: is that they didn't get the flag in Bryant-Denny Stadium.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: That stood out to me.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: What's also crazy, though, that 22 game, Alabama had over 120, 30,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: 40 yards in penalties. I mean, it was an uncharacteristic
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: Nick Saban football team.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: They did it Vanderbilt that year, too.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: A lot of holes on special teams, which always puts
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: you behind the sticks and, you know, terrible field position.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was rough. So that's what it's going
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: to come down to, I think, on Saturday.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: Too, with Alabama is, you know, who can avoid those
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: first and 15s, who can avoid penalties on kickoff return
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: that starts drives inside your own 10-yard line. It's going
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: to be a lot of that, man. I know Tennessee's
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: offense hasn't been great this year, but I anticipate Tennessee's
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 5: game plan is to try to bring Alabama to the
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: mud a little bit and make this thing low-scoring as possible.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: Is that their path? Is that the conservative football, run
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: the football, make things low-scoring, you said, but it was
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: conservative against Arkansas as well. Is that what they're going
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: to have to do right now, do the quarterback spot?
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: Well, I've told myself that we were overlooking Auburn and
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: Arkansas for Alabama because the last two performances offensively, have
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: not been up to the standard that I know Josh
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: Heupel has set out being a guy that, offense coordinator minded,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: former quarterback. I know he wants to score a lot
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 5: of points, but you know, you got to compliment your defense. Well,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: you got to put them in really good situations. And
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: I think the end of the Arkansas game, Tennessee found some,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: some explosive plays and this team can run the football.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: They don't have to go score 50 points. They don't
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: have to, They'll go fast with the tempo. But they
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: do have to be able to throw the ball when
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: it's time to throw the ball. And that's something that
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: they didn't do against Texas, but you're going to have
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 5: to do against Alabama. It's going to be third and six.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: It's going to be third and seven, and maybe even
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: third and nine. You've got to be able to push
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: the ball beyond the sticks, and you've got to have
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: some explosive plays. Tennessee was able to do that a
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: couple times against Arkansas. I understand the opponent.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: Clearly.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: But those are the plays that I think Tennessee will
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 5: have to make against Alabama.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: If they expect to win.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not like they can't have a turnover,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: but they can't lose the turnover battle, right? And they
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: need to capitalize if the defense gets the ball back
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: to them, capitalize without a field goal, but punch it
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: in the end zone. That's how they win this game, right?
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you've got to win the turnover.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you've got to win it. I mean,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: I think there's so much respect given to that Alabama offense.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: I know they're probably going to be without their most
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: explosive receiver on the outside, Ryan Coleman-Williams, but Keelan Russell
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: is special, and I think he's going to have to
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: give your offense extra possessions. Maybe it comes with special
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: teams where you can be able to make a big play.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: We saw that in the Texas game with Clay Moss.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: Got a lot of confidence in Jim Knowles. We saw
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: him give Arch Manning some trouble, and Arch Manning is
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: a guy who's played multiple years in college football, and
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: Keelan Russell, this is his first year playing as a starter.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: So he's going to make plays. He's a fantastic player.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: He's a great player.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: But I like what Jim Knowles is doing defensively, and
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: I like the fact that we have the most disruptive
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: player in college football up front.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man. And Xavier Gilliam. And Alabama has some.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: Questions there with their offensive line. So we can't turn
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: the football over. We can't have pre-snap penalties. We can't
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 5: have penalties that push our draws back because we just
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 5: haven't been great offensively.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: We haven't been explosive. That's more on Alabama's side.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: But if we just take the game plan we had
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: against Texas, clean up some things, Bring those guys to
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: the mud a little bit. Let your crowd work for you.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: Let your defense work for you. Special teams, you come
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 5: out and play well. This thing could be interesting in
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: the fourth quarter.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, man.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: Defensively, there are a lot of talk in the offseason
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: about how long it takes to get this defensive system
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: in place and up and running. The Penn State transfers
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: have been huge in this. How crucial have they been?
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: How have they played?
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they've been amazing. I mean, I'm talking about Knocking
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: the ball out of the park and going three for three.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, Amari Campbell at linebacker, Xavier Gilliam there, you know,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: defensive front. And then Dajon Lane is a playmaker machine.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: And crazy to think that he was, you know, behind
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: Edris Farouk at one point. I mean, my goodness, Edris
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: Farouk was probably playing like Ed Reed during fall camp
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: to be, you know, behind Farouk. So, yeah. Yeah, man,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: those guys have played great. And kudos to Jim Knowles.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: I think he identified himself. I've done some self-scouting. It
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: does take a little bit longer for my guys to
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: have a strong understanding of the system and start fast
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: and play fast.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: Without thinking too much. And he made some tweaks.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: I think him bringing several guys with him from Penn
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: State was important, too. Some of those guys mentioned the
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: fact that their first time working with Jim Knowles at
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: Penn State, they were learning like the players were learning.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: So it's really hard to teach when you're learning too.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: Now those guys have been able to teach our players
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: rather than learn with the players.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: I think that's made a big difference.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: You mentioned trying not to look ahead over Auburn or Arkansas,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: but I do want to look ahead. Tennessee gets this game, Swag.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: What does this set up for the finish of the season?
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: And what do they have in front of them? Where
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: do you think they are in the top 10? And
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: what does that mean for this program?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 5: Man, it's hard to even think beyond that.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: The week that you're currently in, in this conference because.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: I know, yeah.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: Everybody can be had.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 5: Man, you get your butt beat, man. I mean, look
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: around the league so far this year. It's a week-to-week leave.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: Excuse me, it's a week-to-week season.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think for Tennessee. So, yeah, you win against Alabama.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: That's great. We smoked cigars.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: But as soon as that thing burns out, you got
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: to turn around and you got to play South Carolina,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: a team that went on the road and smacked Florida.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: And then you got to play a Kentucky team. that
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: has a head coach that has everyone believing, and they
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: got one of the best offensive lines in the country, too. So,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, you're good for a week, but you can
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 5: beat Alabama and then lose next week or lose this
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: week and win next week. It's just crazy how this
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: league has been this year.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, but it would be.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: Great to hand Alabama a second loss, right?
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can do that. I'm all for that.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, LSU's got theirs. Now if you catch a second,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: you've still got the win. To me, you've got the
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: resume if you're right there with Bama for the college
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: football playoff. That would be massive in terms of the storyline. Hey,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: what's your favorite play call so far from Mike Keith
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: standing next to him in the booth? I was with
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: him for a while with Titans Radio. I've got several,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: but I'm curious early on what stands out to you.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: Well, every time... Every time there's a sack, I get excited.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, come on, man. That's everybody's favorite, right? When
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: he yells sack.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think people realize how animated he gets when
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: he does that.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, he gets it. There is a different person
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: coming out of him whenever he does that.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: It's great.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my favorite. Hopefully, I have a new one
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: this week. Hopefully, we're able to make some big plays
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: on offense and he gives us gives us a new one. But, man,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: right now it's sack because, man, it's a game-changing play.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 5: It can change the trajectory of the game. And, man,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 5: it's just cool as hell hearing him yell it.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: It's awesome, man. It's awesome. Ask him why he does
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: the sack that way.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: He's got a good story.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: I won't ruin it.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: I will.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: Even if he's got time on air. That's a great story.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll ask him.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: Swain, are you into the jerseys, the uniforms being the solids?
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: I hate it. I didn't like the throwback to Nealon.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: I think if you're going to honor Nealon, put the
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: power T on the side of the helmet. I think
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: the uniforms will look better as Tennessee. Personal opinion. I
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: like the old school throwbacks. Bama's not going to do that.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: You're going to have certain programs that are not going
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: to change things up. I wouldn't do it either.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: The gray ones I have no problem with. Listen, it
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: ain't for me.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 5: I know. It ain't about me. But Alabama wearing their
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: home uniforms on our field.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: That's a great point.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: Well, that's what I thought she was talking about. Well,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: I am.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: They're trying to sell this color battle or whatever.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 5: I think it's going to look cool, but I get
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 5: what you're saying. Yeah, I'm not for that. I don't
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: like Alabama. I don't like anything about them. So I
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: don't want to see crimson. The less of it, the better.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: So I know their white uniforms, they have like a
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: little bit in their numbers. I don't even want to
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 5: see that. So I don't want to see any crimson,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 5: let alone the home uniform be worn here. It's out
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: of our stadium. So I know, again, it's not for me.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 5: It's not to please me. But I don't like Crimson.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: I don't like Alabama. I don't want to see it.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 5: So I know Alabama fans probably feel the same way
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: about our Orange when we play down there next year.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: And that's good. That's good. I like it that they
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: don't like us because I don't like them. And that's
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: the way it's supposed to be in this rivalry. No doubt, man.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: And final thing, who's a player that you've mentored, you're
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: close with on the roster? I'm sure there's a receiver
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: that you're tight with. Who stands out to you and why? Well,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: my guy, Mike Matthews. That's my guy right there.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 5: And I'm so proud of him because we're talking about
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 5: a guy who was a basketball player in high school,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: played football because he was really, really good at it.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: Some schools recruited him to play safety. Some play receiver,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: to play receiver.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 5: But he fell in love with, Tennessee because of that
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 5: 2022 offense.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: He's gotten here.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 5: As a freshman, you go through those low times where
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: you think you should be playing. Maybe you should, but
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: you're not. You get really frustrated. Last year was his
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 5: first year being a starter in 2025. Played a little
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 5: bit in 24 as a freshman. Then he had some drops.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 5: Had some big plays, but also had some drops. This offseason,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 5: he put the work in. Changed his body. His mentality
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 5: just went to a different level. And right now he's
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 5: been Tennessee's most explosive player. And Tennessee's offensive staff has
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: found a way to get him the ball because he's
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 5: so explosive. He's so dynamic. He runs angry. Plays with
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 5: unbelievable effort. He blocks his ass off. I'm a big
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: fan of Mike Matthews. And, man, Scott's the limit for him.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: He's just getting started. So that's my guy right there, man.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: That's great. I'll just– How does Hypo handle the quarterback
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: situation when both are ready to play? How delicate of
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: a spot is that when it comes to young players? And,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: you know, the hot hand's the hot hand, but you
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: also want to put the starter back in. Again, I
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: don't know the mentality there based on how things went down.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 5: The media loves stuff like this, right?
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: The quarterback battle.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: I do.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: But to me, I didn't hear about the injury even
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: at the halftime break.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, like, okay, I guess they took him
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: out and they won the game because of that decision.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: But he was hurt. Turns out he was hurt. So
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, is there in the back of your mind, oh,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: if I play a certain way, it's a quick trigger,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: here comes George. I mean, it's a back-and-forth deal that,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Heupel's pretty good at managing the quarterbacks.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: We've seen that in the past with Hooker and everybody else. But, like,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: how does he approach this one? Because they've gone out
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: of their way to make sure that Faison is well
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: portrayed as injured now, but he wasn't on the injury report.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Milton and Hooker, it made it easy
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: because those guys were best friends, right?
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: Great point, yeah.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: They were best friends. They were roommates, I would say,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: at some point. They were boys. They still are. And
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: this is different.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that Faison and George are not cool
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 5: or friends or whatever. But those guys were tight. It
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: all works itself out when you're doing your job and
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 5: playing well. The moment you don't play well, then it
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: gets a little murky. And for Josh Heupel, you went
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: with Faison because Faison rightfully– was the better quarterback in
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: fall camp.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: And during spring, he won the job.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: And when the competition got a little harder, you know,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 5: there was some signs that, Oh, you know, we got,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 5: we got, we got to make sure that, you know,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: we put them in position to be successful.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: Everybody else is doing their job.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 5: And Texas game came around and, uh, you know, it
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: just wasn't seeing the field as you would like him to,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 5: to see it. And then he got hurt and kudos
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 5: to him for getting back out there, being a warrior,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 5: you know, playing, giving his all for Tennessee. Um, And
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: so the Auburn game came around, and it was time
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 5: for George to get his chance. Number one, he was healthy.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 5: Number two, when he came in in the Auburn game,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 5: he did a good job. And so I thought he.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: Earned that right.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 5: And then the Arkansas game came along, and I thought
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: he played well enough to continue to get that right
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: to go out there and start. So he wasn't perfect.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: There's things he could have done better. There's some things
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: that people around him could have done better. Faison has
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: to practice, though, consistently. What you can't expect is for
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: a young player to not practice each and every day
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: and take mental reps and then expect him to go
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 5: out there on Saturdays and play well. That doesn't happen.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 5: Older players can do that. Experienced players can do that,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 5: not young players. And so until Faison is practicing consistently
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: and he's looking good and he's making all the reads
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 5: and he's improving, then I don't really think this is
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 5: much of a question, in my opinion. I think George
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: is your guy until George is not. And, again, this
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 5: is a week-by-week league. Things can change. He can get hurt.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 5: He can play poorly. But right now, I think he's
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 5: playing well enough to be the starter.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: Can you use.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: Both consistently, or does that just not get you in rhythm?
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't want that. As a receiver, I wouldn't want that.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 5: As a coach, I wouldn't want that. This is not
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 5: Chris Leak and Tim Tebow. I mean, these are two
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: guys who are both young who both throw well from
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: the pocket when they just pull the trigger. I know Faison,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 5: his running element is more elite than George's, but I
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 5: personally would not do that. Plus, again, Faison is hurt
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 5: or battling the shoulder that he did hurt against Texas.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: So I just wouldn't put him in that situation to
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: only run the ball and further hurt that shoulder. So
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: I would roll with George. again, to George proves that
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 5: he can go with someone else.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: How do you go into the Bama game now as
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: compared to as a player? You're going in as a broadcaster,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: but you're all about the big orange. You're VFL. Do
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: you have the same feeling, the same nervousness, or a
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: good nervousness?
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: I'm still pissed off the same way. I love that.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: Pissed off for greatness. Yeah, I'm still pissed off and
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 5: fired up about the matchup. The only difference is I
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: can't do anything about it. I haven't been able to
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: do anything about it for the last 20 years. One year,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: I got a chance to talk to the receivers in
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 5: 2014 and voice how I felt about this matchup. They
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 5: went out and I thought they represented me well in
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 5: how physical they played.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: We didn't win the game. It wasn't close.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: You should have talked to the entire team.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: I got the receivers.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, again, man, I'm not going to shy
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: away from what this game means and how I feel
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 5: about this game.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: It is what it is. And I know there's some
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: people in Alabama that feel the same way.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 5: And that's okay. That's the way it's supposed to be. But, yeah,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 5: like I'm fired up, man. I get emotional about this
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: one this week for sure.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, I genuinely mean this. The Vault Network sounds great.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: I told Mike that and Larry. I love the total coverage.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: you guys go on early and you stay late. It's
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: a long day. And in the middle of the broadcast,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: it's about the big orange. It's, it's, it's fantastic. And, uh,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: and it's, uh, from state line to state line, man, uh, you've,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: you've got it covered and you're doing a great job.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: I thought, I thought, uh, the, the video that, that
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: they did when they surprised you live on air with
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: Josh was, was, was really cool. And, uh, you see
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: what it means to you, but you also see what
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: it means to Mike, you know, like that's, there's a
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: fabric there. That's great. And, It's what's going to make
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: the games even better. As you said, the next best call.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 5: It's awesome to be able to work with guys that
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 5: share the same passion for this program, for our school,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 5: and then just the art, the art of trying to
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 5: be the best you possibly can be for the fans
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 5: because you're serving them. And we are such an important
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 5: part of their game day experience. And I can go
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: on and on about young kids watching, not being able
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 5: to watch TV.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: But only listening to the radio because of John Ward.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 5: And, you know, they use him to paint the picture.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 5: And I understand our responsibility in doing that. So, man,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 5: the preparation that goes into it, man, the passion that
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  Speaker 5: we have. I mean, I'm just impressed. to be a
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  Speaker 5: part of it. I learn something new every day just
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  Speaker 5: working on the mic. I sit there and watch him work.
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  Speaker 5: And that's a pleasure. But I appreciate you, man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, keep up the great work. Thank you for the
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  Speaker 1: time as well today. And I'm looking forward to the game.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be fun. It's another great matchup here
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  Speaker 1: with a great storyline.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. That's right, man. Go Vols as always.
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  Speaker 1: out tonight, we've got Dixieland Delight Friday night, which is
• 1:38:58
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• 1:39:02
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  Speaker 1: We've got the next round straight ahead.