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Furness Show 10-21: Mariners Lose Game 7, Mollywhop Reaction, Hawks win · The Ian Furness Show

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Speaker 1: Let me get to this. We've got a big show
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Speaker 1: coming up. The Mollywop guys are standing by, and I'll
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Speaker 1: tell you what we're gonna do. We're gonna have just
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Speaker 1: a quicker segment today with them for a few minutes.
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Speaker 1: I texted Nate and Chris didn't even use our normal
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Speaker 1: group text that include one includes Anders and Benton, one
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Speaker 1: includes Just and Benton and Anders and I don't know
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Speaker 1: all these things. I just could the two of them
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Speaker 1: last night and I said, you know, what I think
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Speaker 1: we need to do is just to have the three
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Speaker 1: of USBs for a second and just talk about last night,
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Speaker 1: and then we move on. We'll have our final regularly
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Speaker 1: scheduled Mollywop next Monday. That will be when we look
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Speaker 1: in the crystal ball. We'll look into the offseason, and
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Speaker 1: next week we'll look back more so at the entire
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Speaker 1: season this year and looking ahead to next year. We'll
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Speaker 1: do that on Monday, and we've all had a chance
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Speaker 1: to decompress. Today's not for decompressing. Today is a date event.
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Speaker 1: The day is a day to talk about what happened
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Speaker 1: last night and in the series specifically, not about what's
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Speaker 1: to come, not about what could come not about what
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Speaker 1: but tonight Today's d They do that, So we're gonna
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Speaker 1: have those guys here in just a few minutes. We'll
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Speaker 1: stand by for the Mully whoppers and then Joe Shean,
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Speaker 1: which I guess will be his final visit of the
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Speaker 1: year regularly scheduled, which is a bummer. We'll talk to
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Speaker 1: Joe at one thirty today and then a little Seahawk
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Speaker 1: conversation at one forty five to wrap up the show.
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Speaker 1: Probably no cross talk because everything's short today. And I'll
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Speaker 1: be honest with you, I think SOFTI needs to come
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Speaker 1: on cold and not cold, but I think come on
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Speaker 1: hot at two o'clock and do his thing, and you know,
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Speaker 1: and you know, along those lines real fast before I
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Speaker 1: get to Nate and Chris. Everyone's feeling different today, talking
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Speaker 1: anders off the air like you know how you feelone's
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Speaker 1: feeling different today, and you know all the different stages
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Speaker 1: of grief so to speak, you know, and are you angry?
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Speaker 1: Are you sad? And everyone's feeling different today because everyone's
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Speaker 1: fandom is different today. It's the beautiful thing about sports,
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Speaker 1: the emotions that come with it. They're not always good. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: we don't have good emotions today. But the beautiful thing
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Speaker 1: about sports is we're so invested, We're so damn invested,
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it can come to
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Speaker 1: an end. It can come to an end on the
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Speaker 1: two yard line in Glendale, Arizona. It can come to
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Speaker 1: the end with one swing of the bats in Roger
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Speaker 1: Center in Toronto, or sometimes in a more glorious fashion,
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Speaker 1: with a double down the left field line, or a
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Speaker 1: home run with three guys on on a Friday night
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Speaker 1: at Team Mobile Park. It can come to an end
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Speaker 1: in different ways. So we all have different emotions that
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Speaker 1: we're feeling today and we'll get to all that. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm sad. Mostly I'm sad because we as a family, like,
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Speaker 1: enjoyed something in sports together for the first time in forever,
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Speaker 1: and it was really cool for me personally. Most of
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Speaker 1: the time I'm working Seahawks. I was always working for
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks when they had their great success, I was
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Speaker 1: always there. I never shared any of that with my family,
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Speaker 1: and I had to work, and you know, like I
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Speaker 1: tried to treat it as a job. It's probably why
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Speaker 1: the Malcolm Butler interception doesn't affect me as much as
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Speaker 1: others because I had to immediately go onto the field
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Speaker 1: and interview players and do a postgame show for Fox thirteen.
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Speaker 1: I just didn't affect me as much. I mean, it
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Speaker 1: does today, probably more so as the years went on.
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Speaker 1: Probably the next year, when I went to that stupid
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Speaker 1: building and did a live shot for a pregame show
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Speaker 1: on the sideline, I could look over and see the
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Speaker 1: hashmark where the ball was sitting. Yeah, then it bothered
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Speaker 1: me certainly a lot. But the Mariners first time in
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Speaker 1: a long time I've been able to share sports non
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Speaker 1: Wazoo related with my family, my wife, my son, my daughter,
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Speaker 1: And I'm bummed that that part of the year is over.
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Speaker 1: And I'm more bummed because I don't know when we're
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Speaker 1: ever going to get it back. That's the problem. When
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Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler had that pick at the goal line in
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl forty nine, I think everyone in our city
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Speaker 1: and certainly you know, all of us covering that team
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Speaker 1: talking to players like whatever, it sucks, and that's probably
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Speaker 1: wasn't affected as much of the time. You know, legacies
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Speaker 1: are cool. Back to back would have been cool, But
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Speaker 1: I think we all look in ato that team. They'll
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Speaker 1: be back, They'll be back. In the Super Bowl next year. Hell,
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Speaker 1: if not next year, the year after, they'll be back.
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Speaker 1: For sure, they'll be back. Have them been back? Have
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Speaker 1: them been close? And then the best organization in the city,
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Speaker 1: and it's not even close, most successful, the best, the
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Speaker 1: best run they have been back when the Kraken went
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Speaker 1: and took out the defending Stanley Cup champions in seven
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Speaker 1: games three years ago in their second year of existence.
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Speaker 1: And then they followed that up with a seven game
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Speaker 1: series against an absolute wagon in the Dallas Stars. Took
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Speaker 1: them to seven, took them to the brink. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: this is the start of it. This is the start
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Speaker 1: of something cool to come. Stanley Cup playoffs every spring.
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Speaker 1: Sign me up, baby, have n't been back, haven't been close,
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Speaker 1: been out of it for the last two years. By
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Speaker 1: December now, if Lane Lambert can see a healthy hockey team,
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Speaker 1: which doesn't seem possible in the near future, but if
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Speaker 1: he does, like he could get him there. But there's
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Speaker 1: no guarantees. And that's what I'm sad about. There's no guarantees,
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Speaker 1: Like Thanksgiving ends, Christmas ends, what do you guys do? Hey,
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Speaker 1: you know it's cool, great time. Can't wait to stuff
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Speaker 1: my face next year. There is no guarantee for next year.
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Speaker 1: There is no guarantee that will be here again, and
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Speaker 1: that bums me out because it feels like a massive
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Speaker 1: opportunity lost and we'll get more in the bigger picture later.
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about last night because I think
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Speaker 1: now is the time to get angry if need be,
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Speaker 1: and frankly, if that's going to happen, hit them because it.
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Speaker 1: So Mark James asked me MG and the Midday asked
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Speaker 1: me about what I was thinking yesterday when Springer hit
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Speaker 1: the home run or Brizardo came in, and I said,
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Speaker 1: the problem was I had just we literally got off
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Speaker 1: the air for Kraken postgame. I want to thank that
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Speaker 1: tens of people watching last night, we got good night
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Speaker 1: for them, not you know what, good night to have
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Speaker 1: that game happen. By the way, I jumped in the car,
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Speaker 1: was getting trying to drive home. Want to watch last
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Speaker 1: few innings of the game with my with my family,
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Speaker 1: and then and then the Seahawks. Obviously, as Holland asked,
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Speaker 1: I'm listening to ESPN broadcast, and I didn't have the
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Speaker 1: full context of what was going on. I was like, wait,
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Speaker 1: wasn't w went there? Why is Bizarto in there? Oh Springer,
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is bad. So I didn't have
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Speaker 1: a full context. I listened to the postcast last night,
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Speaker 1: Chris and Andrew's great job. Got a better feel for
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Speaker 1: what was going on than listening in. Carl Ravich and
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Speaker 1: EDWARDO Perez and Tim kirksh Caon do a terrific job.
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Speaker 1: And all I heard from them over and over again
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Speaker 1: is I don't understand Tim Kirsch, I don't understand what
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Speaker 1: he's thinking. I don't understand what he's thinking. So let
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Speaker 1: me do this two up coming home for three straight
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Speaker 1: at Tea Mobile, one of the most incredible nights of
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Speaker 1: sports in our city's history. On Friday, Gino's Grand Slam
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Speaker 1: capping it off three to two. You got two chances
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Speaker 1: to close it out. It doesn't happen. More importantly, up
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Speaker 1: two oh, up three to two, and then up three
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Speaker 1: to one in the latter innings with that bullpen, and
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Speaker 1: you don't close it out. So now I'm getting angry, Chris,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you today. Oh boy, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: start with you. Dan Wilson is taking a lot of heat.
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Speaker 1: How much heat should he take for last night and
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Speaker 1: for the series loss as a whole.
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Speaker 3: So I did a video on mayle Y right afterwards
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Speaker 3: because I really wanted to break this down. How much
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Speaker 3: blame do you really give the manager of the Seattle Mariners.
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Speaker 3: And what I ultimately came down to for yesterday's game
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Speaker 3: was I gave twenty five percent blame to only scoring
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Speaker 3: three runs. I gave twenty five percent blame to Eduard
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Speaker 3: Bizardo and Brian Wim and I gave fifty percent blame
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Speaker 3: to Dan Wilson. Because I've talked about this ad nauseum.
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Speaker 3: The number one thing a manager does is the clubhouse.
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Speaker 3: It's the most important thing. It's the thing we can't
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Speaker 3: quantify it's impossible. It's the most important thing. The second
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Speaker 3: most important thing is putting your players into position to
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Speaker 3: have success. And Dan Wilson may have succeeded and had
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Speaker 3: them ready to roll for Game six, and that was important.
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Speaker 3: He screwed the on number two and that is unacceptable.
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Speaker 3: It's unacceptable. I have multiple texts. I have a text
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Speaker 3: on my phone right now from someone who is going
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Speaker 3: to get Hall of Fame boats saying that's the worst
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Speaker 3: decision he has ever seen from a manager. Now does
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Speaker 3: that make him right? No, it's not a there's not
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Speaker 3: a this. It's a fallacy to just say, uh, major
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Speaker 3: league baseball player who was really good at thinks it's
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Speaker 3: a bad decision. It doesn't make it a bad decision.
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Speaker 3: When everyone texts me and tells me that this is
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Speaker 3: a horrible decision, you gotta start thinking about it. And
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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be honest. I've watched a lot of
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Speaker 3: Seattle Mariner baseball. I am forty two years old. I
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Speaker 3: have been a fan a long long time. He's the
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Speaker 3: worst end game manager I've ever seen. He's the worst
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Speaker 3: in game manager that I have seen by a large amount.
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Speaker 3: He is probably great in the clubhouse, and that matters.
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Speaker 3: In fact, you could argue it matters more unless you
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Speaker 3: take a look at last night, and then you can
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Speaker 3: wonder how much does it really matter? So ultimately, yes,
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Speaker 3: you have to do give blame on the offense for
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Speaker 3: only scoring three runs. Yes you have to give blame
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Speaker 3: on bizarre of throwing a disastrous pitch. But you also
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Speaker 3: have to blame Dan Wilson for not putting your best
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Speaker 3: players in position to succeed. And now you have the
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Speaker 3: Andreas Munio's Craig Kimbrel mame and those familiar with it,
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Speaker 3: there's a meme of Craig Kimberl standing at a bullpen
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Speaker 3: waiting to get used, Andres Munhos got used, but it
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Speaker 3: was too little, too late, and it.
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Speaker 1: Sucks Nathan.
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Speaker 4: The team's best reliever. The Mariners were nine outs away
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Speaker 4: from the World Series. The Mariner's best reliever didn't get
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Speaker 4: to pitch with the lead because somebody who's unqualified, who
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Speaker 4: was hired through a process that was laughable that they
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Speaker 4: didn't they didn't even go outside of the organization to
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Speaker 4: look for anybody. They didn't even cast in that. They
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Speaker 4: just said, this is a guy. They plucked a guy
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Speaker 4: from their team Hall of Fame to be their man.
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Speaker 4: Maybe there was more to it. They're more than welcome
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Speaker 4: to give us insight onto the process that led to
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Speaker 4: hiring Dan Wilson, and I would take it gratefully and
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Speaker 4: be happy to know the context. Sure looks like they
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Speaker 4: just grabbed a guy who is who was there that
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Speaker 4: they knew the fans would rally around and put him
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Speaker 4: in there and this team, I think part of what
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Speaker 4: to Chris's point, when you're trying to divide a blame,
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Speaker 4: part of this is whatever part of it is the
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Speaker 4: manager's fault, it's the easiest for us to relate to
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Speaker 4: his fans. I can't hit a fastball. I can't hit
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Speaker 4: a one hundred and two mile an hour cutter. I
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Speaker 4: can't run, you know, one hundred and five feet to
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Speaker 4: track down a ball on the gap. I can't do
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Speaker 4: those things. So when players maybe miss a pitch by
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Speaker 4: a half an inch, they like, there's two millimeters on
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Speaker 4: the bat, that's the difference between a home run and
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Speaker 4: a flyout. Like it's frustrating for me, but it's not relatable.
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Speaker 4: I can't relate to that. When the top of the
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Speaker 4: seventh starts and I know Ryan wu has two days rest,
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Speaker 4: has pitched one time in the past month because of injury,
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Speaker 4: and you're going to try to go out there without
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Speaker 4: anybody else ready in the seventh inning. You're just gonna
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Speaker 4: pray that that works out to the point where now
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Speaker 4: you have to scramble and get the pitching coach out
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Speaker 4: there talking to Brian Wouo, so that you get not
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Speaker 4: your best reliever, not your second best reliever, your third
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Speaker 4: best reliever. And this is no shade to Edward Bizardo,
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Speaker 4: who was amazing in twenty twenty five. Of every pitcher
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Speaker 4: on this staff, I would argue you got more from
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Speaker 4: him than you had any reason to expect in the
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Speaker 4: entire season. Full stop. I am not mad at Edward Bizardo.
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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to put him down. You had a
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Speaker 4: fully rested pitching staff. Every it was all hands on deck,
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Speaker 4: and that is the best that you have in that situation.
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Speaker 4: You did not go down with your best effort, and
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Speaker 4: you could see it. That's what's so frustrating. We shouldn't
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Speaker 4: be able to tell this stuff when it's happening. Two.
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry to toot my own horn two months ago
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Speaker 4: for the newsletter I wrote for twenty twenty five. He
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Speaker 4: is almost ser going to be a liability in close
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Speaker 4: and late situations. Assuming the team makes the postseason. He
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Speaker 4: is going to have Mariner fans crawling on the ceiling,
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Speaker 4: so that will be fun. I shouldn't be right about that,
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Speaker 4: and I shouldn't be able to see it coming from
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Speaker 4: two months ago. It is outrageous watching Cal Rowley cry
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Speaker 4: in the dugout after that game for the season that
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Speaker 4: he had, for Julio Rodriguez to scream and anguish because
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Speaker 4: their manager can't do the stuff that every other manager
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Speaker 4: in Major League Baseball can do. It's not acceptable to me, man.
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Speaker 4: It's whatever organizational structure put this man this season in
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Speaker 4: this position infuriates me. I'm so mad today, and I
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Speaker 4: will be so happy when we recap this season. Best
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Speaker 4: season of my life, so many great things. But today
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Speaker 4: I am so pissed off that he was allowed to
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Speaker 4: take this moment from us in such an obvious an
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Speaker 4: avoidable way. If Andres Munhoz had gotten beat by George Springer,
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Speaker 4: I'd be so sad it happens. It's baseball to make
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Speaker 4: clear and obvious tactical choices where the entire industry is
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Speaker 4: texting Christopher specifically and saying, Chris, this guy sucks at this.
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Speaker 4: That shouldn't be happening. How does this happen?
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Speaker 1: Anyway? I'm done well, and I think listen, the frustration
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Speaker 1: is that you had. They put together a team and again,
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Speaker 1: we'll recap everything on Monday. We'll givebody a few days
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Speaker 1: and kind of wrap it up in six days. They
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Speaker 1: put together a team that arguably was the best team
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Speaker 1: they've had since O one, easily maybe the second best
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Speaker 1: they've ever had period, just in terms of the starting pitching. Chris,
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Speaker 1: would you agree?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Right, I mean you had and yeah everything, Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: you do all that, but you don't give them the
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Speaker 1: most basic and probably the easiest tool in the sh
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Speaker 1: to work with the manager. And that was a thing
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Speaker 1: that bothered me. Nate, you hit at the end, Chris,
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Speaker 1: let you jump in. If George Springer beats Andras Munhos, hell,
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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. If George Springer beats Andras
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Speaker 1: Munos or even Matt Brash, righty, right, if you want
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Speaker 1: to go that route, I'm okay, more so with Munos
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Speaker 1: than Brash. But as as Nathan said, this is what
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Speaker 1: I was listening on the radio driving home, Like listening
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Speaker 1: to those guys on the ESPN broadcast were like, no
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Speaker 1: one's warned, Like they're ill prepared. They sounded ill prepared.
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Speaker 1: Chris for the biggest moment of the year. Nine outs
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Speaker 1: biggest moment of the year, Chris, how not. And it's
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Speaker 1: not just Dan Wilson. It can't just be Dan Wilson,
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Speaker 1: can't it, Chris. It's gotta be that entire dugout of coaches.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I I said this on the postcast,
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Speaker 3: and uh, someone with more experience who is going to
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Speaker 3: be more in Dan Wilson's ear needs to be on
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Speaker 3: the staff next year because clearly, clearly there's nobody getting
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Speaker 3: through to him right Like, and I respect a lot
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Speaker 3: of those guys. I've talked to a lot of those guys.
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Speaker 3: I've interviewed some of them on this ear radio station.
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Speaker 3: But that's just a complete We talk about process and
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Speaker 3: failure all the freaking time in sports. It's one of
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Speaker 3: the most common phrases now that it's an abject failure
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Speaker 3: and process, and boy, oh boy, is it a failure
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Speaker 3: and result, because look what we're talking about right now,
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Speaker 3: it's just unacceptable It's unacceptable to lose in that fashion.
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Speaker 1: It is.
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Speaker 3: Go down with your best right. If you're gonna lose,
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Speaker 3: let Andrex Munials be that guy. And that would have
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Speaker 3: been heartbreaking, and I would have had to deal with
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Speaker 3: a bunch of idiots who claimed that Andres Munals isn't
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Speaker 3: Bill for this and the crap like that. But in
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Speaker 3: my heart of hearts, I know that Andrex Munhals can
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Speaker 3: get the job done, because look, he's gotten the job done.
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Speaker 3: He's been an absolute wagon in this postseason. And Edward
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Speaker 3: Bizzard always had some great moments in this postseason. And
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Speaker 3: one of the biggest issues I have is after throwing
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Speaker 3: two innings yesterday, that's who you're going with too, like Captery.
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Speaker 1: For two innings.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a complete failure and process and results,
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Speaker 3: and it's it's it's it's kind of embarrassing. It's kind
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Speaker 3: of embarrassing to root for a manager who's making decisions
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Speaker 3: like this.
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Speaker 1: Nate, will we wrap it up with this? Was this
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Speaker 1: an opportunity lost? And did a better team not win
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Speaker 1: this series?
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Speaker 4: It's absolutely an opportunity lost. You were nine outs away
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Speaker 4: from making the first World Series. We spoke about it yesterday.
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Speaker 4: I think these teams were in very different and incredibly
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Speaker 4: evenly matched. I think that player to player, all the
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Speaker 4: way down the lineup, I think the Marriags were a
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Speaker 4: slightly better team. It's absolutely an opportunity missed, and there's
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Speaker 4: I mean, we'll talk about it next time. There are
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Speaker 4: so many questions now about what's going to happen between
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Speaker 4: now and opening day in twenty twenty six, and that's
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Speaker 4: what stings the most. To your point, Ian, that feeling
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Speaker 4: after the second Super Bowl, not just that they had
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Speaker 4: won the one the year before, the feeling that we
17:59
Speaker 4: were just aring a window was so tangible with the
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Speaker 4: Seahawks at that time, and I put it out to
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Speaker 4: somebody else in a conversation I was having, you know
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Speaker 4: what was so fun about the last couple of months.
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Speaker 4: And I know that I can be a negative guy.
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Speaker 4: I hope people notice the change in the past four
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Speaker 4: to six weeks. For me is because I was trusting
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Speaker 4: the players. The players had the season in their hands,
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Speaker 4: they decided what was going to happen. And now what's
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Speaker 4: so hard is I got to depend on people I
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Speaker 4: don't trust again to get this right so we can
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Speaker 4: do it again next year. The light Bat, Yes, light
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Speaker 4: Bat Newsletter have been cranking out stuff well most of
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Speaker 4: the postseason. It'll slow down for a little while now,
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Speaker 1: Chris Mile, Why Mile why?
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19:22
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19:28
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19:31
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19:35
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Speaker 1: held open try outside of Casey, it's it's getting that
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Speaker 1: bad any any side of Joe.
21:12
Speaker 5: Not yet.
21:14
Speaker 4: No, we we haven't tell.
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Speaker 1: I spoke with him earlier and he was good to go,
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Speaker 1: so maybe he got caught up. We will find out, Okay,
21:26
Speaker 1: I want to he he's gonna actually, my surprise people,
21:31
Speaker 1: he's gonna somewhat defend Dan Wilson if we get him
21:34
Speaker 1: on only. But his newsletter yesterday prior to the game
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Speaker 1: was oh yeah, let's see, m let's see I'm gonna
21:49
Speaker 1: read a couple of texts. Then four nine four why
21:52
Speaker 1: not you guys, you guys tell me if if we
21:54
Speaker 1: get him on okay, Nathan is dead wrong. One through nine,
21:58
Speaker 1: Toronto was a better team. I think we're and we'll
22:04
Speaker 1: talk about this more on Monday. I don't know. Seattle's
22:08
Speaker 1: bottom of the order obviously was awful at times, and
22:13
Speaker 1: I was surprised. I thought can Zone would be better.
22:15
Speaker 1: And you know what, I wouldn't give up on him.
22:18
Speaker 1: He's not gonna win any gold gloves or anything. But
22:20
Speaker 1: I thought, I don't know, man, I thought I thought
22:24
Speaker 1: he would be better. Obviously, the bottom of the order
22:26
Speaker 1: was a struggle for Seattle. But it's kind of a
22:27
Speaker 1: struggle for them. I mean they got him and as
22:29
Speaker 1: hits the two home runs, like, what the hell? Where'd
22:30
Speaker 1: that come from? Guys are of the worst hitters in baseball?
22:32
Speaker 1: For God's sakes, I mean, stuff happens. Let's see. Thank you, Ian.
22:38
Speaker 1: More often than not, you say what we all want
22:39
Speaker 1: to to me. This year's a failure. We had it
22:41
Speaker 1: in our grasswood away. I don't think we'll get back
22:43
Speaker 1: there anytime soon. Again, thank you. I'm not calling this
22:45
Speaker 1: season of failure though, I'm going to be perfectly clear
22:47
Speaker 1: with that. It's just it's not Now were the playoffs
22:52
Speaker 1: of failure? Yeah, they should have been to the World Series.
22:56
Speaker 1: That part of the year was a failure to look
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Speaker 1: at like a semester of classes. I mean, overall, you passed.
23:03
Speaker 1: But it was a pretty good season, like a really
23:05
Speaker 1: good season, some great memories. But to have a two
23:09
Speaker 1: zero lead after two wins on the road, and then
23:12
Speaker 1: to have a three to two lead with two games
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Speaker 1: to go on the road again, but just win one
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Speaker 1: of two and a three to one lead with nine
23:20
Speaker 1: outs to go in a game to clinch it. Yeah, man,
23:24
Speaker 1: that's that's not good. That's that's just that's just not good.
23:31
Speaker 1: All right. Well, I'm gonna punt on Joe. Yeah, that's
23:33
Speaker 1: kind of what I'm thinking to Let's just put let's
23:35
Speaker 1: get him on next Tuesday. You guys can figure out
23:36
Speaker 1: what happened there and let me know. Four to two five.
23:39
Speaker 1: I agree Dan Wilson gets a lot of blame here,
23:41
Speaker 1: but obviously are absolutely correct to focus on the process,
23:44
Speaker 1: and the process is put in place by upper management
23:46
Speaker 1: and ownership. Those are the people you blame. Ultimately, forty
23:49
Speaker 1: nine years of mediocrity. We don't care about winning or fans.
23:53
Speaker 1: I just want to make money. That's what we saw
23:55
Speaker 1: go sideways last night. See, I think that's a I
23:58
Speaker 1: think we're over. Here's the thing with that, and I
24:04
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying from the forty five. I get
24:07
Speaker 1: what you're saying. The thing is is that they were
24:11
Speaker 1: Jerry and Justin were allowed to go out and add
24:14
Speaker 1: to the roster. It's kind of what has separated some
24:18
Speaker 1: of the other teams that have been going to the
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Speaker 1: postseason this year. They went out, there were a couple
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Speaker 1: glaring meats first base, top of the list, upgrade offensively
24:27
Speaker 1: at third base. They went out and got both those guys.
24:31
Speaker 1: They got the best they could on the market. They
24:33
Speaker 1: got a you know, forty five to fifty home run
24:36
Speaker 1: guy in Gino, and they got a guy in Naylhor
24:37
Speaker 1: This is just an absolute baller. They were allowed to
24:40
Speaker 1: do their job as a front office, at least in
24:43
Speaker 1: terms of player acquisition. My concern is will they be
24:46
Speaker 1: allowed to do that same job in the offseason this
24:48
Speaker 1: year and resigned Naylor and all that. But that's for
24:51
Speaker 1: a different day. Andrews, glad you're still alive. Great job
24:55
Speaker 1: putting in that work yesterday in Toronto. That was a
24:58
Speaker 1: lot of work. It was you're a busy guy yesterday
25:01
Speaker 1: I was Toronto Radio is for sure using Ian as
25:04
Speaker 1: a sound bite. What did I say? Did I say something.
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Speaker 5: I think people have misconstrued when it was too daily
25:11
Speaker 5: you said something along the lines or you were looking
25:13
Speaker 5: ahead of the World Series?
25:15
Speaker 1: Hell? Yeah, it was nothing. Yeah, damn, Ron, I was
25:19
Speaker 1: one and four. You went one and four. By the way,
25:21
Speaker 1: it was yeah. I mean, here's the thing, it was
25:24
Speaker 1: two all with two wins on the road. You're coming
25:25
Speaker 1: home where you have been the best home team in
25:27
Speaker 1: the second half of the season. That's oh yeah, yeah,
25:33
Speaker 1: it was over. Hell yeah, who we playing the World Series?
25:36
Speaker 1: I didn't think. I didn't think it was. I could
25:38
Speaker 1: not listen. I know what our history is here, and
25:41
Speaker 1: I know the doomsday world that we live in as
25:43
Speaker 1: Mariner fans like get all that. I could not fathom
25:47
Speaker 1: what happened and what you just said, And what was
25:49
Speaker 1: the record after that one and four?
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Speaker 5: They went one and four.
25:52
Speaker 1: They lost four of five games. It had been since
25:58
Speaker 1: win June that they had done that. No, I guess
26:00
Speaker 1: they did that. No, No, that's wrong after the trade deadline.
26:03
Speaker 1: They had that little stretch right they went, uh.
26:05
Speaker 5: It was second and twenty second half of September, Yes, yeah,
26:08
Speaker 5: six one or whatever. That was second half of augustus.
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
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Speaker 1: Isn't Woodworth part of the blame pie?
26:17
Speaker 5: And you said it, and I think you mentioned it
26:19
Speaker 5: in the Mollywop segment. It's not just Dan, it's the
26:22
Speaker 5: whole Staf.
26:23
Speaker 1: Wilson leans on Winworth for in game pitching decisions. We
26:25
Speaker 1: should have pushed harder from Munos entered the seventh inning.
26:29
Speaker 1: I love Maniacta and Perry Hill's great to those two guys.
26:34
Speaker 1: Perryhill and many are great on our show, great to us.
26:37
Speaker 1: But man, I think with managing, there's it's got to
26:41
Speaker 1: be a collective effort.
26:42
Speaker 6: In game.
26:42
Speaker 1: Yes, the pre game decisions are obviously inspired or you know,
26:48
Speaker 1: obviously influenced by more than just the manager and his
26:51
Speaker 1: coaching staff, GMS and analytics team and all those guys.
26:54
Speaker 1: They all have a say too. But when you get
26:57
Speaker 1: in the heart of it, you don't see Dan. Dan
26:59
Speaker 1: can't be on a cell phone talking to Jerry. It
27:00
Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. So true, Dan completely wasted the
27:06
Speaker 1: best catching season of all time.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I that's what it hurts from me,
27:13
Speaker 5: and I kind of mentioned this to you in the
27:15
Speaker 5: break is the players did enough to win this game.
27:18
Speaker 5: There were just so many moments that could have gone
27:21
Speaker 5: down in Seattle Sports lower from that game seven, and
27:25
Speaker 5: it's gonna be mostly forgotten. Like Julio with a double
27:28
Speaker 5: and a home run in his first game seven in
27:30
Speaker 5: his career, Kirby shoving in his third elimination game ever,
27:34
Speaker 5: pitched again, WU coming out of the bullpen, coming off
27:38
Speaker 5: an injury and dominating the lineup. JP Crawford's hurdle double play,
27:43
Speaker 5: Josh Naylor even the funny little moments that doesn't really
27:46
Speaker 5: make a big difference on the game, Josh Naylor getting
27:48
Speaker 5: the way of the throw because that's just who he is,
27:51
Speaker 5: cal Rawly owning Toronto. Still, all of those things. The
27:53
Speaker 5: players did enough to win this game, and their manager
27:57
Speaker 5: kind of let them down. I think.
27:59
Speaker 1: Was that the worst loss in CL sports history. There's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of talk about that over the
28:04
Speaker 1: next few days. There's a lot of talk. I'm not
28:06
Speaker 1: gonna get into it today. I just I don't want to,
28:08
Speaker 1: but I'll let you guys do on that. You can
28:10
Speaker 1: think about it, don't answer it right now, but you
28:12
Speaker 1: can stew on it. I don't know, there's been a
28:14
Speaker 1: lot too many Let's see, it's a great way to
28:19
Speaker 1: put it in. There will there will be a baseball
28:21
Speaker 1: season next year, guaranteed, just like there will be a
28:23
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving next year. But you get to the point in
28:25
Speaker 1: the postseason. It's the firsest thing from a guarantee. Yeah,
28:27
Speaker 1: that's the thing I have is that when I mentioned
28:31
Speaker 1: that in the first segment today. What saddens me. What
28:35
Speaker 1: saddens me is this they they the Mariners, getting back
28:45
Speaker 1: to this position. We have no idea if it's going
28:49
Speaker 1: to happen again in twelve months, twenty four months, forty
28:53
Speaker 1: eight months, or fourteen to fifteen years. We don't know. Yeah,
28:59
Speaker 1: there's no great they had it. They they've been fairly
29:02
Speaker 1: okay health wise. Col stayed healthy, Julio stayed healthy. I
29:09
Speaker 1: don't know. Whatever, I'm gonna move on, we'll talk. I
29:12
Speaker 1: was just say this two things. One, don't forget to
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Speaker 1: cracking ticket Tuesday. We told you about that already. The
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Speaker 1: next thing I would tell you is this, don't miss
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Speaker 1: soft the top of the hour two o'clock, we will
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Speaker 1: do Crosstock. We'll just let him do his thing. At
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Speaker 1: two o'clock with Faine, we'll come back quick thoughts on
29:27
Speaker 1: the Seahawk game last night. We'll do that to wrap
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Speaker 1: things up on this Cracking ticket Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: than just telling you this. I know my guy well,
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Speaker 1: thirty pre game four o'clock drop with the puck in
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Speaker 1: the Nation's Capital against the great hit eight Alexandrovchkin and
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Speaker 1: the Capitals. It's game five of a six game roady
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Speaker 1: Cracking losing their first game in regulation last night to
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Speaker 1: the h Where the hell were we last night? Why
30:26
Speaker 1: can't I not remember? The Philadelphia Flyers?
30:31
Speaker 4: Yes, they were on the East Coast.
30:33
Speaker 1: It was a very forgettable game in a lot of ways,
30:35
Speaker 1: very forgettable. Well, let me get to this real quick.
30:38
Speaker 1: Seahawks last night. I mean, I can't ever even fathom
30:43
Speaker 1: a time at KGr when the Seawks have played a
30:45
Speaker 1: Monday night football game and someone's done fifty minutes of
30:48
Speaker 1: radio without mentioning the Seahawks outside of headlines. That would
30:51
Speaker 1: be me today. But that's where the Mariners were on
30:53
Speaker 1: the food chain, and I'm sure that'd be the focus
30:55
Speaker 1: of soft Ease show coming up here with Faine a
30:57
Speaker 1: little bit. But the Seas get an important win. They
31:00
Speaker 1: are one. And here's why it's important. You're trying to
31:03
Speaker 1: keep pace, not just with San Francisco and the Rams
31:06
Speaker 1: and the NFC West, but with the NFC as a whole.
31:11
Speaker 1: There are six teams in the NFC that are at
31:14
Speaker 1: five and two. There is one team that's four to
31:18
Speaker 1: one and one that's Green Bay. They're the top seed.
31:20
Speaker 1: The next six teams are all five and two. And
31:24
Speaker 1: the reason that Seattle's the sixth seed and the Rams
31:26
Speaker 1: of the seventh and Tampa Bay is the fourth is
31:28
Speaker 1: all kinds of tie breakers and all that kind of stuff.
31:30
Speaker 1: But that's how it shakes out right now. Chicago four
31:33
Speaker 1: and two is right there as the eight seed, and
31:36
Speaker 1: so is Dallas at three to three and one. They're
31:38
Speaker 1: not done yet either. Washington massively disappointing season three and four,
31:43
Speaker 1: but one and four in the conference. They're not done,
31:45
Speaker 1: but they're on life support. They're in pretty bad shape.
31:48
Speaker 1: But this is just a really, really good conference this year,
31:51
Speaker 1: and Seattle's in the best division in that conference. And
31:55
Speaker 1: the most remarkable thing about yesterday in the football game,
31:57
Speaker 1: and I probably the least watch Seahawks game ever, especially
32:01
Speaker 1: in prime time, because I think by the time the
32:03
Speaker 1: Merry game ended, it was mid like ten minutes to
32:06
Speaker 1: go in the second quarter, and by the time that
32:08
Speaker 1: was going on, I think a lot of people were
32:09
Speaker 1: just in like Mariner hangover land and just trying to
32:12
Speaker 1: figure out what the hell just happened after they got
32:14
Speaker 1: kicked in the in the you know, you know what's
32:17
Speaker 1: in the Jewels and the Onions. The Seahawks did everything
32:20
Speaker 1: in their power to lose that football game to a
32:22
Speaker 1: pretty decent team, and they still want And what's cool
32:26
Speaker 1: about that is that tells you're a pretty good football
32:28
Speaker 1: team when you do everything possible to lose four turnovers,
32:33
Speaker 1: only two receivers caught a ball three I guess three. Technically,
32:37
Speaker 1: whatever it was, you didn't run the ball effectively until
32:41
Speaker 1: the second half, and even when you did, the guy
32:42
Speaker 1: that was averaging five point six yards of carry in
32:44
Speaker 1: the second half was Ken Walker, you still once again
32:47
Speaker 1: decided not to give him the football enough. The insistence
32:50
Speaker 1: on running Zach Charbonay is a mind boggling, a head
32:52
Speaker 1: scratching move on Friday, I think, Jesse, I know you're
32:55
Speaker 1: working on it. I don't know if it's confirmed, but
32:57
Speaker 1: we're gonna probably try to do what we did last
32:58
Speaker 1: year during the bye week. Yes, and have and have
33:00
Speaker 1: Colles actually going to Okay, good Cosell and Hugh on together.
33:05
Speaker 1: That is one of the first things I'm an ass
33:06
Speaker 1: those two guys. What are they doing at the running
33:08
Speaker 1: back position? I don't get it. But all of that said,
33:12
Speaker 1: they won. And there is nothing in sports that is
33:16
Speaker 1: more important than wins. In the NFL on a week
33:20
Speaker 1: two week basis, because you have so few opportunities with
33:23
Speaker 1: a seventeen game schedule, you have to win, and sitting
33:26
Speaker 1: at five and two into a bye week, they are
33:29
Speaker 1: in really good shape. And oh, by the way, they
33:31
Speaker 1: were able to somehow get away with resting Witherspoon and
33:33
Speaker 1: love Witherspoon, How bad are you hurt? By the way
33:36
Speaker 1: you're jumping up and down celebrating on the sideline all
33:38
Speaker 1: the time, Like I don't get it. That's fine, you guys,
33:41
Speaker 1: do you? It's weird, a weird thing going on with him.
33:46
Speaker 1: But he's going to be back and and they'll be
33:48
Speaker 1: back in a couple of weeks time. They'll have to
33:49
Speaker 1: go to Washington. But this team, damn good man, damn
33:53
Speaker 1: good When it's all said and done at five and two,
33:56
Speaker 1: not even playing great, Dnald had I don't want to
33:58
Speaker 1: say his worst game, but maybe a couple worst decisions,
34:01
Speaker 1: and they still come away with the winds. So good
34:02
Speaker 1: for them heading into by week at five and two,
34:04
Speaker 1: all right, we'll take a break, or not take a break.
34:05
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a bye. We're out.
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Speaker 4: I can see you, we miss you.
34:09
Speaker 1: I'll be back at some point in tracking studio. I
34:13
Speaker 1: guess tomorrow. Back here on Thursday, anyway, softy faint on
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Speaker 1: a crack of ticket. Tuesday coming up.
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