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A Golden Opportunity · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Simois podcast, where we'll
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  Speaker 2: be breaking down today the Golden Bachelor Episode two. Wowie zowie.
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  Speaker 2: This episode was incredible. Anyone who watches this episode, in
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  Speaker 2: my opinion, will be hooked and we'll be watching every
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  Speaker 2: single week. Last week, I loved it, cute, but it
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  Speaker 2: was night one for me, and now that we are
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  Speaker 2: in this ugh I'm dying for more. Ben, I know
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  Speaker 2: that you feel the exact same way.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I'm interested Ashley. I do feel the same way.
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  Speaker 1: I am interested in your reaction because I can tell
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  Speaker 1: there's a difference in your energy. I know, I know
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  Speaker 1: you know the I think. Last week I came in hot,
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  Speaker 1: fired up, Oh man, it's on TV. Finally, it's super exciting,
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  Speaker 1: and you didn't hate it, but you I liked it.
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  Speaker 2: Was like, okay, I liked it. I honestly didn't feel
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  Speaker 2: a ton different from a regular night one. I just
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  Speaker 2: loved it. This week we started to like see the
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  Speaker 2: big differences in the age.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean by stories?
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  Speaker 2: The histories?
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  Speaker 1: The history, so the stories, the past experiences talking about
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  Speaker 1: the past and the things that have happened, that is,
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  Speaker 1: those are the moments that really pulled something out of you.
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  Speaker 2: And the way that Gary was so receptive to them.
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  Speaker 2: This man's kindness and warmth and act of listening just
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  Speaker 2: this is where he got to shine. The way that
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  Speaker 2: he uses the women's names, like he's like, oh, Nancy,
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  Speaker 2: and like just relates to it and it's the most
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  Speaker 2: wonderful ways. This was great And it was so freaking
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  Speaker 2: fast the forty minutes, which it is with the commercials,
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  Speaker 2: you're just dying for more and like my mom has
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  Speaker 2: always said, leave people wanting more.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think it's a little fast. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's my biggest complaint right now is I would say
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  Speaker 1: it feels like there can be no story development. It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of flies through. We get bits and pieces of
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  Speaker 1: a few women each episode, but we don't get an
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  Speaker 1: overarching We don't get like a secondary story. We get
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  Speaker 1: the main stories of each women, but we don't get
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  Speaker 1: the behind the scenes stories really like maybe we do
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  Speaker 1: on the other shows.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we only had a one one on one and
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  Speaker 2: a group date. We didn't have the third date.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good point that was missing. I think this
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  Speaker 1: show's only going to get better. My point is not that, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a bit massive mistake. I get it.
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  Speaker 1: I leave people wanting more, you know. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: good with Paradise obviously coming along for the ride now
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  Speaker 1: of the Golden Bachelor, it's it's good to keep it short.
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  Speaker 1: I just think now the episodes are going to get
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  Speaker 1: better because there's going to be less people, and as
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  Speaker 1: there's less they can really start to expand on some
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  Speaker 1: of these storylines that maybe we haven't gotten full pictures
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  Speaker 1: of yet. I do want to highlight before we break
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  Speaker 1: down one section of before you kind of break down
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  Speaker 1: the episode, there is one moment that really stood out
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  Speaker 1: to me with Gary this episode like really blew me
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  Speaker 1: up away. His reaction to when I don't know the
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  Speaker 1: woman's name, but she gave him a compliment and he
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  Speaker 1: looked up this guy He goes, oh my gosh, that
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  Speaker 1: is such a nice thing to say about me. That
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  Speaker 1: means so much. And it was with this like almost
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  Speaker 1: cartoonish genuineness, meaning it was like and it felt like
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  Speaker 1: a very big overreaction to something that was said, but
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  Speaker 1: there was a genuiness that makes me go, this is
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  Speaker 1: just who he is. He is appreciative.
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  Speaker 2: Oh did they find this man? He is such a
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  Speaker 2: freaking treasure. Okay, So I'm thinking, like, how frustrated do
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  Speaker 2: you think that the whole like ABC team is that
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  Speaker 2: this show is an hour and Bachelor of Paradise is
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  Speaker 2: two hours?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think they're I don't think they're. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure they're, like, goodness, gracious. I think this was
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  Speaker 1: such a risk and such a test for them that
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  Speaker 1: they knew going in this was either going to be
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  Speaker 1: a massive hit or a massive failure. And I think
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  Speaker 1: they've they've kind of hedged their bets.
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  Speaker 2: Could it have really been a massive failure?
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  Speaker 1: I never thought so, but I know they.
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  Speaker 2: Did because thinking about like what the ratings of like
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  Speaker 2: Zach and Charity season, How could how could this be
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  Speaker 2: a failure? It would have matched, It would have absolutely
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  Speaker 2: matched those ratings.
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  Speaker 1: I know they they I mean, I know they've had shows, right,
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  Speaker 1: They've had many of shows that they've created, actually they
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  Speaker 1: think are going to be huge excesses that never even
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  Speaker 1: get off the ground. I think TV's hard, and I
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  Speaker 1: think this show is so new and so different that
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  Speaker 1: I do think there was that risk that maybe nobody
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  Speaker 1: would tune in maybe people are just over networked network TV,
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  Speaker 1: but as we've mentioned, the show is crushing all of
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  Speaker 1: those things. I think it's changing the way people see
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  Speaker 1: network television. I actually believe people will look back on
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  Speaker 1: The Golden Bachelor and be like, we design content based
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  Speaker 1: on that show because of the success of that show,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to get these great, heartwarming shows that
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  Speaker 1: tell really incredible stories, that have elements of drama, that
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  Speaker 1: have elements of emotion, elements of little suspense because of
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  Speaker 1: The Golden Bachelor. I think it's that big a show.
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  Speaker 2: It could change Hollywood because they always know actors and
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  Speaker 2: actresses always complained that once they hit a certain age
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  Speaker 2: they can't get roles anymore, and talk about maybe tapping
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  Speaker 2: into some desire that people have to watch older romance movies,
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  Speaker 2: romance movies with older you know leads. Sure, but let's
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  Speaker 2: just tell you, guys, if you haven't listened to the
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  Speaker 2: Headlines episode this week, we do dive deep into the
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  Speaker 2: ratings of this series, and I think that the ratings
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  Speaker 2: are going to go up even more because if you
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  Speaker 2: had caught this this episode, and I know we don't
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  Speaker 2: really like Channel Surf very much anymore, but if somebody
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  Speaker 2: told you got to watch the Golden Bachelor, and you
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  Speaker 2: end up watching episode two. I feel like you are
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  Speaker 2: in for the whole ride.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not stopping Ashley before we get kicked off here,
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  Speaker 1: and we do need to get kicked off and break
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  Speaker 1: down episode. I do want to ask you a very inappropriate,
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  Speaker 1: weird question.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you or my go to for all these questions
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  Speaker 1: in my life that I can't ask my wife, or
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  Speaker 1: that maybe I forgot to ask her before she left
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  Speaker 1: her work.
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  Speaker 2: And then I tell like how much plastic surgery did
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  Speaker 2: the ladies have? No, that's not my question yet, because,
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  Speaker 2: like I said last week's episode, there's some filler in
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  Speaker 2: those chicks.
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  Speaker 1: Go for girls, go for it. You know. My question
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  Speaker 1: is this. Gary is obviously a handsome man. He's very sweet,
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  Speaker 1: he's very kind. Do you think people your age are
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  Speaker 1: watching this with any type of like attraction to Gary
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  Speaker 1: or is it more of a kind of a fatherly
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  Speaker 1: grandfatherly like love and admiration and just the sweetness of Gary?
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  Speaker 1: Or is there or do you think the majority is like, goodness, gracious,
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  Speaker 1: he could leave, you know, he could be around for
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  Speaker 1: a while, Like I like this guy. I would actually
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  Speaker 1: be on this show too, if they would allow, you know,
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  Speaker 1: thirty year olds.
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  Speaker 2: I have the perfect answer to this question. So I
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  Speaker 2: was watching last night with my sister and my friend
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  Speaker 2: was here and she was looking at the TV and
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  Speaker 2: she just could not stop talking about how attracted she
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  Speaker 2: was to him, and like how she literally said that,
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  Speaker 2: like he's the bachelor that she would most want to
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  Speaker 2: get in bed.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even take that offensively, Like I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he's I get it again, I get it,
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  Speaker 2: but like I mean not for me, Like there's quite
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  Speaker 2: a number, Like you know, I was on the show
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  Speaker 2: and very attracted to Chris Soles, and there's so many
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  Speaker 2: of my very attractive friends that you know, like personally,
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  Speaker 2: I like to date more within my age range when
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  Speaker 2: I used to date and but but my sister's the
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  Speaker 2: exact same way. She just thinks that he's so hot,
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  Speaker 2: And I get it, I get it. But I'd also
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  Speaker 2: personally would yeah, I like more matrix. But and then
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  Speaker 2: just to like draw a full picture, we were at
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  Speaker 2: dinner last night and these two ladies in their seventies
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  Speaker 2: came up to us and they were like so sweet.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, you girls are so pretty. And the woman
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  Speaker 2: didn't even know I was on the Bachelor, And for
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  Speaker 2: some reason, the golden Bacheler comes up and she goes, Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that guy can like get it. The seventy year old
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  Speaker 2: woman goes, oh, that golden Bacheler, he can get it.
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  Speaker 1: Goodness, it's bringing out a side of people I've never
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  Speaker 1: known or seen or heard people talk about. It is.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's opening my eyes to a whole new world.
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  Speaker 1: I just learned too much, so much. I wasn't going
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  Speaker 1: to be surprised if you said that you thought your
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  Speaker 1: friends were actually attracted to Gary. I think he would
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  Speaker 1: find that unique and different and something he's never experienced.
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  Speaker 1: I know my wife watches it and she has this
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  Speaker 1: just like love for grandparents. Yeah she does because of
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  Speaker 1: her grandparents, and she just like is is more in
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  Speaker 1: the like sweet like oh he's like I just I
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  Speaker 1: just want to protect him kind of like I just
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  Speaker 1: love him and I just want him happy kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But my wife is also not you know, she isn't
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  Speaker 1: as like Ford or expressive or you know, she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: think and maybe the ways that every you know, everybody
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  Speaker 1: else does. She's unique in her in the way that
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  Speaker 1: you know, she doesn't hadn't really dated until we got married,
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  Speaker 1: and so she has just a different kind of like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: perspective on life and thought when it comes to these things.
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  Speaker 1: But I wasn't going to be surprised that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: college campuses that are now watching The Golden Bachelor at
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  Speaker 1: watch parties are watching this and the girls are going,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Like I this is the first time
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  Speaker 1: I felt like I've I watched this seventy year old
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  Speaker 1: on TV and I'm like, yeah, he's pretty attractive.
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  Speaker 2: Or really funny, exactly like I have an appreciation for it.
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  Speaker 2: Am I dress like, he's very handsome, he's so sweet,
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  Speaker 2: Like I would love to have him as part of
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  Speaker 2: my family. Yeah, but just yeah, like I just am
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  Speaker 2: that girl who's always just been like, oh, is he
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  Speaker 2: within like ten years of my age? Okay then yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but like even ten years seemed like a stretch to me.
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  Speaker 2: I just like I am the personality that I feel
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  Speaker 2: like we need to like generationally relate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, hot uncle Gary. That's who he could be in
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  Speaker 1: my family is hot uncle Gary. Okay, we're gonna take
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  Speaker 1: a break here, Ashley, before we start breaking down the
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  Speaker 1: episode I do want to tease this. There is something
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  Speaker 1: about Gary that gave Jessica and I the ick. What
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  Speaker 1: really we're gonna talk about when we get back. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think breaking down the Golden Bachelor Ashley is best
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  Speaker 1: done in kind of highlight because there it's a short
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  Speaker 1: episode right way.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like flashes.
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  Speaker 1: It's flashes and and some of the things here is
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  Speaker 1: the girls are waking up in the mansion, which is
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  Speaker 1: really fun for me to watch because the mansion is
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  Speaker 1: is a lot. I don't know about your experience in
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  Speaker 1: the mansion, but when I was on the Bachelor app
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  Speaker 1: they did not make those rooms as nice and cute
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  Speaker 1: and like, ok.
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  Speaker 2: They did for these women.
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  Speaker 1: I mean those rooms look pretty nice. When I was
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  Speaker 1: very kind of look like a like a like a
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  Speaker 1: bad dorm room. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what's up with the plush comforters and
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  Speaker 2: like the cute matching stuff like where are looked like
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  Speaker 2: more of like a like a campsite.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And they never got shown on TV. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've talked many times about, you know, the interesting part
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  Speaker 1: about the mansion, and I do think that the viewers
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  Speaker 1: were kind of shocked by the bunk bed situation. I
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  Speaker 1: get it. I understand that, uh, you know, having bunk
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  Speaker 1: beds for these women, it's crazy. But the mansion is
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  Speaker 1: not that big upstairs. There is not many rooms. There's
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  Speaker 1: very few bathrooms, and and I know my issue. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's only a few bathrooms. We've talked about it before. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: when you have a bunch of guys on a show,
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  Speaker 1: weird things happen in those bathrooms, and those bathrooms become disgusting,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely disgusting.
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  Speaker 2: You guys are weird. I gotta say, you guys are weird.
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  Speaker 1: We're very odd. We're very odd.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Like, I don't know why it would get disgusting,
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  Speaker 2: but knowing Jared, yeah, like you guys just like have
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  Speaker 2: a thing. I don't know, let's not get into it.
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  Speaker 1: We do have a thing, and things get weird.
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  Speaker 2: It gets exactly like I'm like, I never would have
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  Speaker 2: known that things get weird in the bathroom until like what.
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  Speaker 1: You can ask Jared all about it.
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  Speaker 2: Do I have to bring a blue light in the
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  Speaker 2: bathroom or something?
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  Speaker 1: One hundred percent you should. But these women walk in
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  Speaker 1: you know, again, I talked about it last week and
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  Speaker 1: I won't go far into it this week, but I
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  Speaker 1: do think it's really fun, probably for all these women
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  Speaker 1: to have sleepovers. I'm imagining because I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: often they have like sleepovers now in their life. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: every once in a while their friends get together and they're like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's go on a girls trip. But they all seem
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  Speaker 1: very excited to be in this mansion. There was no
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  Speaker 1: complaining really like we see in other seasons where they
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  Speaker 1: entered into the mansion, and you know it even if
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't shown on television, like when the guys or
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  Speaker 1: the girls walk up for the first time, like this
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  Speaker 1: is where we're staying. Yeah, like there is a lot
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  Speaker 1: of complaining. That's kind kind of like that.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's like also so surreal
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  Speaker 2: to see your name on the bunk that you're just like,
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  Speaker 2: it's fine, I can't believe I'm here and that you
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  Speaker 2: just got through a row ceremony and all that. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're definitely like believe me. I must have said out loud,
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  Speaker 2: like the bathroom situation, like how am I supposed to
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  Speaker 2: go in privacy? Like how am I supposed to even
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  Speaker 2: shower in privacy? Because I've just been that girl. I've
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  Speaker 2: always been that person. That's like, nobody sees my naked body.
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  Speaker 2: Not because I'm not confident, it's just like, A'm very private.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you're not. When you get into that mansion, everything
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  Speaker 1: is wide open, everything is to be seen, Everything is
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  Speaker 1: shared every like, there's people in and out at all times.
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  Speaker 1: It is a very weird experience. But we do see
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  Speaker 1: the women enter into the mansion and then we see
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  Speaker 1: Gary pull up. Gary is shining. I mean, this dude
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  Speaker 1: is talk about him hitting his peak. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if we'll see another peak for Gary this season, but
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  Speaker 1: him pulling up in that vintage convertible up up to
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  Speaker 1: the mansion, to me, I was just like, yeah, this like,
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  Speaker 1: you could not have picked anybody better. You can't. You couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's so he's just so good at it.
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  Speaker 1: He's so relaxed in a position that would.
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  Speaker 3: Be so I was saying throughout the entire episode, how
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  Speaker 3: is this dude who's plucked from obscurity so comfortable in
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  Speaker 3: front of the cameras, so comfortably emotionally in front of
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  Speaker 3: the cameras.
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  Speaker 2: Just if there's an ease about him.
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  Speaker 1: It's incredible, Actually, I asked the producer, serious yesterday I
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  Speaker 1: had a phone call with some of them and I said, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: did you give Gary more training than you would have
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  Speaker 1: given me? Like, did you prep him in a different way,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, have the procedures to getting the person
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  Speaker 1: ready to be the lead changed? I mean we also
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  Speaker 1: have to remember Gary wasn't a part of a previous season. Right,
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  Speaker 1: he is the start, so he does not have the
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  Speaker 1: camera experience, so.
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  Speaker 2: We always have a trial run basically with the lead.
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  Speaker 2: They were picked because they are comfortable with the camera,
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  Speaker 2: because they're dynamic and like people are drawn to them
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  Speaker 2: through the screen. They didn't even know.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't give him any more training than they would
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  Speaker 1: have given me. Like there was some conversations about Gary,
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  Speaker 1: how do you feel about this? Are you ready? I
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  Speaker 1: do think it comes down to life experience and wisdom
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  Speaker 1: that helps him navigate this, because I don't think there's
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  Speaker 1: any conversation that he's going to be in or any
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  Speaker 1: moment that he's going to be I'm sure he's nervous,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think he's gonna be surprised, Like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he I think he's prob'll been through all
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  Speaker 1: of these before. Right, he sat down with people who
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  Speaker 1: have experienced lost. He's walked into rooms where there's a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of people with their eyes on him. As as
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  Speaker 1: a business owner, I'm sure he's given talks and speeches
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  Speaker 1: to his team, you know, as he stands up in front.
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  Speaker 1: I just think he has the experience, which I think
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  Speaker 1: he's uniquely good at it. I don't want to discredit
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  Speaker 1: him as a person here, but I do think life
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  Speaker 1: experience probably plays into this a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: How do you think that the producers interacted with him
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  Speaker 2: being him being an elder, because normally we're peers, if
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  Speaker 2: not there a couple years older than us.
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  Speaker 1: I've asked this question too to the people that would
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  Speaker 1: be in the know. You know, with my season, there's
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  Speaker 1: some leads that really want to be coached, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they want to have a producer there. They want to
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  Speaker 1: take the break and walk away from conversations and be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: how do you feel about what's going on? Is you know,
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  Speaker 1: is there a question I should ask is or something
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I should say? Or you know in past season, sometimes
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: the leader like, I would love for you to step
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: in during these dates and kind of help us along
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: because it's going to get awkward. When I started my season.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: One of the conversations we had was I said, I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: would like you to leave me alone, because if it
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: gets awkward, let it get awkward. I'm you know, that's
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: just part of it. If it's not awkward and kind
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: of in a rhythm, then let us let us sit
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: there in that in that rhythm, like I don't want
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: to be getting pulled. I don't want you to kind
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: of make this less real than it already feels. And
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: they said with Gary, he didn't really know what to
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: ask for, right, he didn't know that he was going
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: he would he wanted them to stay away. They said
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: they didn't have to be around, like they could have
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: never even been there like that. He just did this,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: like he asked the right questions. He was engaged, he
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: was interested, and so no, I don't think they treated
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: him differently other than the fact that they just stepped back, Yeah,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: which is which I think does bring you know, I
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: would give if I would give my my my the
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: season to the Bachelor. I was on one compliment because
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I did it. I was in it, like there was
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: a a realness to it. There was a vulnerability and
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: a legitimacy to each conversation because they weren't coached, and
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I think we're seeing that with Gary, where you're like,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: he's not just trying to pull out everybody's really deep stories.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: There's other conversations going on that matter to him, and
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: there's a genuineness to these conversations. And I think we
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: contangibly feel as we watched on the screen because it
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: isn't coached.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree. All right, Well let's get into
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: that first date with Teresa, who was one of the
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: two that he kissed on night one. She made him
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: comment she was like, you kiss me. I was like, girl,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: you kiss him. But okay, our vision is history. Their
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: date was very cute at a diner, and I was
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: pointing out the fact that their date was actually probably
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the length of a normal first date. They left at night,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: they went to a diner, there was a dance afterward,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: and they went home. It wasn't this whole all day process.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: And I kind of liked that.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Sure, I think it was. And I think Gary relating
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: it back to kind of his I mean, the fact
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: that he's seventy years old and that he's you know,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: said I now seventy two, that he used to take
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: people the diners I think was cute. I do think
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: we would be remiss if we did not talk about
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the car ride there.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which they were petrified. I was like, guys, were
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: they scared of the convertible factor or just driving in la.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Ashually, this is the brilliance of the show coming out right.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: There's no producers in that car. There's no producers in
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: his ear. This is just the two of them probably
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: forgetting that they're even on camera because there's like a
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: little GoPro pro in the side. They've probably totally forgotten it.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: And they're in their seventies, right in late sixties, and
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: so you know, I don't know if your parents are
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: this way yet, but my parents don't love to drive
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: at night, like they have night classes.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: My gosh, my mom like won't drive at night.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I land at this time, and she's like, well,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I can't see at night, so you know, I'll have
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Lauren pick you up.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: So this is such a real moment where we're like,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: this is I was dying laughing, but also feeling for
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the two of them because they are so nervous because
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: he's in a convertible and he keeps saying on in La,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: you know, and the busy highway, you know, on the interstate,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: driving through traffic. He goes, it's crazy, it's wild, Like
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: this is such a real inventure. This is an adventure
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and it's so cute and you know that when she
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: put her hand on his shoulder, he was just calm.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Oh sweet, this is stuff we didn't get.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: The other s show like that would just be like
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: a yeah, you put my arm on your shoulder because you.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Think I'm hot. Yeah, picture this picture this. I am
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor. I go on my first date with somebody.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: We're driving a convertible, which we did. We just happened
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: to have Kevin Hart and Ice Cube in the back seat,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and at the time it was Kayla Quinn. She puts
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: her hand on my shoulder, Like how weird would have
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: been if at the end of that I said, hey,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: when you put your hand on my shoulder, it just
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: it just really hit Mentalodic really called me like I
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: could have I could have said that, but he can
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: because it's so real and it's so relatable and we
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: all know our parents and grandparents who feel the same
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: way and would say the same thing. And we would
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: go that's just sweet.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: So sweet. So at of course the dinner, they discuss
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the losing the loss of their spouses. She was married
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to her high school sweetheart for thirty two years. His
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: kidneys weren't good, and she just talks about how she
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: like had like three days kind of knowing that it
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: was going to be the end, and she got a
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: call from him that she wasn't doing well at home,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: and then she watched him take his last breath at home.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: And he's been gone for eight years now, and just
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the way that you know, they're able to relate on
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: stuff like this, it is quite beautiful and so sad.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Well, and we've seen this, right, This is not a
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: this is not a unique you know, situation for so
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: many of them at this point in their life. And
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, for for for me, and I
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: sit there with my wife and I now get to
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: watch this. As I mentioned, I'm very just excited I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: get to watch it with Jess and that we're both
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: so into it. And when these stories get presented like
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: it does bring up a different conversation for us of hey, like,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: this is a reality for so many and this is
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: really hard and you know, life is you know life
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: is short and we got to take advantage of these
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: times like this is what comes from the show for
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: me is those like wow, hun, like this could be
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: you one day sitting there and like how would you
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: want to handle that next season of life for yourself?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: And like, yes, it's not fun to talk about, and
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: yes it's weird to talk about, but it is what
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: brings out. These conversations come out of watching this because
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: when you're when you're engaged in the show, you are
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: obviously talking about the show at every turn and every moment,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and you're saying, oh my gosh, how sweet is it today?
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: We're so nervous to drive there, and then she brings
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: this up and you go, honey, like we've never talked
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: about what I dream for you if this were happened to.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Tell you want to say, what's your answer?
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: You know, I think at that point in time, like
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gone. You know, I want her to continue on
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: with the with the memory of me, which would be amazing,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: like if she had such admiration, But I also don't
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: want her to be alone, like I would never want
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: her to be alone, and she she doesn't want to
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: be alone, but she can't even think about it, right,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: she can't even get there.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Seeing as you say this, I just think like, I
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: don't want to think about it at this point because
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I would be like at that age,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and I don't know what I would feel like at
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: that age.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: But if it happened now, oh god, Yeah, this is
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the stuff that comes out of this. And yes, that
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: feels heavy and dark, But then the show brings us
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: back to really great moments, which is obviously then the
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: people dancing in the diner and the two of them
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: having fun and holding their hands across the table and
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: hands across the table.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: It's like cemented in my mind now as one of
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: the most I don't know, there is something about that like.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: An iconic scene.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a core memory of the Golden Bachelor now,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: just the holding hands so tightly, like in like we're
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: in solidarity, and not in like a romantic sense, but
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: more of like the I'm there for you sense that
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: you don't see on the regular show. And also there
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: is that moment where there's two here, we got a
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: quote here. It says a gentle touch and a few words,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: and they are back to hopefulness in their future.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: In the future, yeah, gentle touch and a few words,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: they're back to hopefulness in the future. Yeah, I mean.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: And I think the the holding hands is symbolic in
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of ways actually, because neither of them want
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: to be where they're at right. Neither of them dreamed
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: of sitting across the table with somebody new. Nobody dreamed.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Neither of them really dreamed of being on this show.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: This wasn't a plan, this wasn't a want for them,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: But they find themselves in this moment. And so in
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: this moment, what are they gonna do. They're gonna make
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the best of it, and they're gonna sit there and
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: be like I got you, Like I'm here no matter
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: what this plays out, like, no matter if we end
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: up together or not, Like, I just want you to
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: know you're not alone, which is what we talk about
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: on this podcast so often, right, is the desire to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: help people feel less alone. And I think this moment,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: that holding the hands is symbolic of the Golden Bachelor
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: in a lot of ways because it is showing you're
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: not alone, Like, I know this sucks. I know you
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: don't want to be here. I know this is you're
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: making the best of a really.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Terrible situation, the backup plan.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not this is not what you would
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: have dreamed of. But we're here, So what are we
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: gonna do with this? Hold each other's hands. We're gonna
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: have a lot of fun. We're gonna do this thing
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: as best we can, and then we're gonna see if
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: possibly maybe you and I can spend the rest of
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: our days together.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna lean across the table and say,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I really like you. And it's so powerful, so good,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: so horriful, and I wanted to I want to know this.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: And I know this may sound really like naive and
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: like immature young of me, But when he says I
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: really like you, is he saying like, I really appreciate
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: you as a person and I love being in your company.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Or do you think he's like, you give me butterflies
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna think about you in bed tonight. I'm
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: not gonna think about you in bed like sexually, but
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: like I'm gonna like daydream of you when I'm about
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: to go to sleep.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's mostly at this point.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I think he's just still in shock that he's even
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: sitting here and he's just like, I like everybody like
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: this is I've never had this much attention in my life.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I'm into you, and I'm into you, and I think
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: you're great, and I think you're great. And I would
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: like to assume, because I'm selfish, that Gary has a
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: similar thought process that I had, where it's like, you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: no matter what, I just hope that all these women
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: here feel like they matter a little bit, a lot,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: a bit. And then I'm really thankful they came all right.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Group date, we have a photo shoot with Franco, because
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: of course we do, and of course we have another
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: wedding dress date. And I am sitting here with my
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: friend Naz, who was a producer on the show, and
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I go, oh my god, the wedding dress dirts girl.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: And she's like, the reason they do it is because
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: it always pays off, because there's always some emotion in it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: And that's so now I'm like okay, and she's like,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: here we are with Nancy. Nancy's getting emotional because the
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: last time she was in a wedding dress, of course,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: was when she married her husband, who has now gone
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: for quite some time. And he just she he's just
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: the freaking cutest, the way that he came up to her,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: just like, is it me? Is it the situation? I
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: was like, of course, it's not you, Gary. And then
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: when they shared the story about, you know, the wedding dress,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: bringing back the memory of the best day of her life,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: and then he was like, it hits you out of nowhere.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I had this moment where I was walking by a
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: batch of cinnamon cookies and it made me break down
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: because my wife used to make cinnamon balls, and their
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: bond over this was just perfect. Then he gives her
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: the group date rows, and I love the way a
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: women don't really get jealous over the group day rows.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: They're just like, oh, good for her, you know, as
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: long as I'm here at the end of the day.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I think the one word was I love Nancy. She
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: deserves it. Yeah, so good. Yeah, I mean the photo shoot.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: You know, you and I have talked about many seasons.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: It's not something that like fires us up, but I
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: do think you touched on the most important part is
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: that Nancy's emotions came out. I think once again we
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: saw Nancy or this situation and become very real. I
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: will say that I don't think Nancy is gonna be
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: around for a while, not because she gets sent home,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: but I do think I could see it in her
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: eyes as a fan without knowing anything, that it just
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: gets overwhelming for her, that this becomes too much, and
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: you know, as much as she's ready for it, that
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: this whole thing, it felt like she was sitting there
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: being like, I don't know, like I wasn't ready or
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not ready, or maybe this isn't for me. Yeah,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: but she does get the group day Rose. The final
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: scene of the episode is that Gary has a birthday
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: party thrown for him. Everybody's celebrating him. It's really fun
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: to see. I hope it was a lot of fun.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Sometimes those parties at the mansion are so awkward and weird,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: but this doesn't feel that weird.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: And uncomfortable cocktail party and it was, Yeah.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: It was the cocktail party, so it replaced it. We
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: did have a massive character and person I really liked.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if they were best for Gary, but
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I really liked her Natasha.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: She was hilarious, really sad. Episode. One of the greatest.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: So yes, she gets eliminated at the row ceremony, but
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: one of the greatest moments of franchise history is at
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: the end when she's just like, why don't we have stools?
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: We need stools. We are sixties and seventies and we
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: can't stand in a row, And her passionate about it
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: was like every every girl who's ever been on the
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: show was like, yes, Natasha, not just you guys, you
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: especially should have stools, but maybe all of us should
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: have stools because those things last way too long to
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: be standing still in heels.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I love that she said it, and I think it
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: would have been a great ad for this show. I
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: think it'd been hilarious for all of them to be
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: sitting down like.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I think it'd be in the next row ceremony. Could
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: you imagine the next row ceremony they all have stools,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: which the stools is gonna look classy. Get some velvet stools.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I think it would be a great idea. I really
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: like Natasha. In fact, halfway through this episode, I told
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Jess she is my favorite because I just love when
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: she comes on television. She's always having a good time,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: she's always making good jokes. She's always there to like
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: to brighten up whatever is going on, and so I
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: am sad that she's gone, but the ones that are
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: left are April, Leslie Joe.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Let's just quick quick mention about Leslie because he does
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: corner her and say, how does it feel to present
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: yourself in such a sexy way?
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I know, I mean I was like, ohh, he's got
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the He actually see he likes her, so he's got
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: the hots for her.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he wants to make out. Leslie's on his mind. Joan, Edith, Ellen, Sandra, Susan, Christina, Faith, Nancy, April, Kathy,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: and obviously Teresa are left going into next week. In
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: the next week's preview, we got a hot air balloon date.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: We do see Kathy getting emotional. Women are starting to
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: get jealous, which I did not think we would see eventually.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Eventually I imagined it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that when emotions get high
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: and attraction runs deep, then obviously people start to get
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: more invested and jealousy comes out.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Well. Ben and I are done with recapping the episode,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: but we still want more thoughts, and we want the
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: thoughts from somebody of the age group, ish of the cast,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: and to this week we have one of our producers, Kendall.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Her grandmother has agreed to give us her thoughts. Big
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: fan of the whole franchise. She's an eighty seven year
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: old and we cannot wait to hear from her. Let's
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: get her on.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we have a very special guest today.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: As we mentioned, we have one of our producers, grandmother's
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: on lovingly name. Can we call you Mamy?
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Absolutely?
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: All right, Mamie, let's get star. You were just sharing
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: with Ashley and I that you keep a scoreboard every episode.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Every episode of the Bachelor, right, and now you've added
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: a scoreboard to your viewing of.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: The Golden Bachelorret that's correct.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, great? So what does the scoreboard mean?
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: It means who I think couldn't get cut? What little
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: notes about them? So?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Who was on your list initially on this episode?
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Everybody?
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, everybody was on the chopping blox.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Everybody makes the list, Ashley, everybody needs a point and then.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: You okay, okay, okay, okay. So what I mean I
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: guess is like, think throughout the episode, who were you like?
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: All right, she's probably a goner.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Oh well, you know with the Bachelor, they always keep
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: somebody that's a little rough around the edges.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, So.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: I I'm not a fan of pathy. Okay, I think
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: she's a little rough, and I don't think that's first
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: of all, he's wonderful mm hmm. But I think she's
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: a little rough.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: And Ellen, you don't like Alan, No, she's entitled to
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: her own opinions. Here, Ashley, what's the note that you
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: have for each of those women?
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Kathy, I have a little rough around the edges, and
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Allan comes on too strong, So Ashley, Susan is a
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: nice lady, but not for him.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I probably agree.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: She's a little rough around the edges.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: She's very Jersey.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but she's kind. She fixes her hair and stuff,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: but she's very kind.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Oh the way that she did Teresa's hair was so
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: sweet and then ruined the car.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: That would be me funny. My favorite is Nancy.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Nancy I understand.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: I understand the wedding dress thing. I understand that. I
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: think she's very sweet. I don't know how long she's
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: going to last, but I like her.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Are you still married?
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: No, I've been a uh for twenty four years.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Twenty four years. I'm so sorry. That's a long time.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: It's a long time. But it's funny. When she did
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: the wedding dress because I was telling my daughter that
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: it did it for me with a heath candy bar.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Isn't that funny?
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: It's Gary said it was cinnamon.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was his favorite. And I went to a
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: vending machine instead of bringing what I want, a heath
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: candy bar came out and I cried so much and hyperventilated,
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: and I was on a big, busy highway and I
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: didn't know if I could get home, but I made it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: That was your husband. That was a sign from him,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he leaves pennies for enough about me.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I like talking about you too.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Oh, he leaves pennies. Did you ever hear that?
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard about them leaving coins.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes you wonder he didn't leave a coin. So
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: I guess it's okay for me to do this.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe this, uh, this is going into such
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: this this conversation here is going into such an interesting
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: part of this show. You know, I imagine or based
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: on what you're telling us earlier. You've been a fan
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: of the Bachelor franchise for a while. You've watched most
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: of the seasons. Have you been relating with the Golden
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Bachelor in a way that maybe was unexpected or did
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: you believe that you were going to watch this show
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: and be like, No, these are moments that I can
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I've definitely felt, and I can feel for them.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: No, it's hard to say. I was anxious to see
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: what he was like, and I was very pleasantly surprised.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: He's a good guy. I can see that. And the
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: women were very, very nice. So as I said, I
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: didn't knock anyone out the first my scorge sheep. But
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I would relate to them. I laughed,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: because the bunk beds. That was the dumbest thing in
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: the world. Plus year old girls going to climb up
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: into a bunk bed when we get down off of
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: it in the middle of the night, at least once
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: or twice.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: There's no way to fit everybody in the house otherwise though,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: But now they've eliminated people, so hopefully that's true. But
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: the ladies all seem very nice. I hope they're all
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: right there for the right reason and not just because
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: they want to sell something.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean I think they are.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I think I would have a hard time picking out
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: anybody that feels like they're not there for the right reasons, Ashley,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I am curious you had mentioned when Mamie said that
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: she wasn't a fan of Ellen that you said you were.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Why are you a fan of Ellen? And do you
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: agree maybe she is a little too forward.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I think she's adored. I think she's adorable. I don't know.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: She seems warm and she's player. She likes pickleball. Sure,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I do agree with you made me though on Kathy,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: she's a little intense, she's extra.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I like Faith.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something's happening with Faith. You see in the scenes
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: for the next episodes the teaser it says it looks
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: like Faith leaves on her own. Oh, I think she
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: can't handle the pressure.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I think of two, ash I think it's like one
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: of those moments where worries.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: Me about Nancy.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like we have more people here that
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: probably are just like, Oh, I've lost before in a
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: big way, and I don't I don't need to put
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: myself in a losing situation again.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the emotions feel like they're just going to get
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: higher and higher, you know, for this show. Like I
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: actually think that's probably a concern of the producer's part
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: when they put the show together. Is that by the
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: end of the season, like our emotions just going to
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: be like so on edge because everybody's so in it
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: and you already get to see it. Maybe I am,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: you know, for all the listeners out there, because they
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: won't be able to watch this. What categories are you
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: scoring each contestant on on your scorecard? What it? I
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: know you have notes, and I know you have all
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: the names, but is it walk us through how you
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: do this scorecard in case somebody at home wants to
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: recreate it.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Created. I put down all their names, some of them
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: might forget, and then I have dad who they are
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: because I thought they got acts if they didn't, and
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: then I make comments about them like pretty girl with
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: long long hair, nice smile, or you know, so I'm
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: just cheat or something like that. That's my scorecard. Mostly
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: it's came on strong and did a good job of
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: selling herself. Do you know who that is?
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Leslie? Leslie? No, no, selling herself, Teresa.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: As soon as I sat down in that booth, she started,
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: mm hmmm, my friends. I don't think any of my
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: friends would ever act like that.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: What do you mean by selling herself? What did she say?
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: She said that I love you so much. I think
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: you're wonderful. I think we'd be wonderful to get.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, she makes a strong push, like immediately, Yes,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: my dear, Yes, yes I do.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I do think that that's some thing that a woman
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: in her sixties can get away with. By if a
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: girl in her twenties or thirties on The Bachelor said
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: that it would it would come off differently. Yeah, that's
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: what we'd be like, little girl, hold on, you know,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I love you.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I'm ready to move. I kind of hear that in Paradise.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I was going to say that, Oh,
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: it's funny because most of my friends are very widows
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: because I live in a fifty five and over active community,
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: and they're absolutely not interested in finding another man at all.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: But my mother in law, on the other case, when
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: her she was veryed three times four times anyway, cut
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: lost kind on her as soon as she put one
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: in the grave. She was out buying a new convertible.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Had to have a man. And there are women like that,
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: and I think these women are like that.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think about Gary? You mentioned that
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: you really liked him earlier. I was saying yesterday during
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: the episode, Holy moly, there's no way we will be
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: able to find another man to be the second, or
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: the third, or the fourth Golden Bachelor that's going to
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: compare to him. You're always going to compare people now
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: to the wonderfulness that is Gary.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: I think you're right. We had to say, and I said,
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: he could put his shoes under my bed anytime.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: You've got yourself a permanent spot here on almost have
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: his podcast.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Recaptured McConaughey, but it might be him.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Now we go from Matthew McConaughey to Gary. You know,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I was, as we close up with you here, maybe
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I was watching Ashley and I wanted to tell you this.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I was watching last night's episode, and you know, obviously
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: seven point seven million viewers, we're going to get into that.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: We already have gotten into that. Maybe where so many
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: people are watching this show right now? And Gary is
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: you know seventy one. I don't know if he turned
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: seventy one on the show. He was seventy two.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: He had a birthday celebration.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I think it might be of turning seventy two.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't seventy two. He I've you know, I've
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: been able to speak with him on the phone twice now,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: and each time this was kind of before the season started,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: and he was very naive to the the the exposure
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: and kind of the faming attention he was going to get.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: And I was watching this in Asai. I don't think
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: this show's going anywhere. I think Gary is going to
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: be kind of the like standard now for every Golden
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Bachelor season from here on out. This dude's life more
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: we know, yes, but this dude's life has drastically changed
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: at seventy two years old, Like he went from fishing
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: and playing golf in northern Indiana to being a legit celebrity.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I think I think he's going to come after this
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and people are going to want to follow Gary's story
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: for ever.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: I agree with you as I said, I think he's
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: a very special person. He really is.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: They hit the gold mine finding him.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: What would it feel like, maybe if you were seventy
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: two years old and you, you know, had lived the
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: life you lived up to that point, and then all
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: of a sudden you find yourself on the side of
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: billboards and the side of buildings and on talk shows
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: like just give us a perspective, what you think that
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: would feel like at seventy two?
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: It would be funny and it would be funny and
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: thrilling for about the first couple of weeks maybe, and
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: then it was this is too much. You know, that's
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: the end of that.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: And my last question to you is how would you
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: feel if your grandchildren are watching you kiss on TV?
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: I think they lived gross. I don't even want to
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: see them.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Kiss even the best. Thank you so much, and your
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: granddaughter laughs in our in our group chat, here's.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe you got a great family. They're all awesome.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: So I ask you one final question when you said
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: how many people watch? Is it only elderly or is
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: it the young people are watching?
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: To thank everyone? That's what's special about this season is
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: like they have the full range of a demographic terricly.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the metrics that usually get
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: measured by like eighteen to forty five, I think this
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: show is blowing, Like is making the metrics go into
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: chaos because it's like eighteen to you know, we don't
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: need ninety. Yeah, we don't know how to figure this one?
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Ads doing it?
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know everybody, it's fun. It's fun.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Sure is well, you're fun, You're great. Thanks for coming on.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: We hope to have you again. Mami. I really appreciate
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: you taking time.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, bye bye bye.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Was freaking what was that? You can keep the shoes? Now?
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: What's the saying I want to start using?
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Put his shoes under my bed?
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Oh? I love it.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I love you like Twains, whose boots? Who's been have
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: your boots been under?
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I love his boots under my bed Ashley. Two weeks
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: in a row with two incredible guests breaking down the
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor. Obviously, their perspective is going to be unique different.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I love that maybe can come to us with like
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the relatability saying, hey, I know what it's like to
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: have that random moment right whereas you smell cinnamon, you
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: put on a wedding dress, you have a heath bar,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, and it really brings up emotions. I
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: also just love I was interested in what you know,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: watching last night and asking Maymi today, like what would
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: it be like to be really famous right away at
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: seventy two? And I think she's right to be really
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: fun for a few weeks, but then I could see
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: it being like no, like I've got all the money
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I want. I don't want anybody else breathing down my
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: neck thinking about my life. Like I'm good, Stop stop
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: asking me questions. But I have a feeling Gary's life
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: is forever going to be changed.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, I mean hopefully. You know, he does live
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: in a space like he lives in you know, rural
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: ish Indiana that like he can always like escape whim
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: why if he wants. But he's gonna be called back
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: from the show like all the time now, you know,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: like he's gonna be taking more LA trips than he's
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: ever imagined.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Poor guy. Well, hey, this has been another episode of
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: all the Almost Famous podcasts breaking down episode two of
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: The Golden Bachelor. As Ashley mentioned earlier, and as I agree,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: this show is good. It's really good. We're loving it.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: So hey, we'll be back next time again a full
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: slate of content coming your way. But until next time,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I've been Ben, I've been Ashley.
• 47:51
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• 47:55
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• 47:59
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