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Managers of Violence: Seahawks Week 1 Training Camp Notes · Sea Hawkers Podcast: for Seattle Seahawks fans

• 0:11
  Brandan: Hello, and welcome to the Seahawkers podcast.
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  I'm Brandan Schulze, and I am joined by a couple of my good buddies.
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  We've got Clinton Bonner and Adam Emmert.
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  Adam, uh, you and I have talked recently, but the little
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  Flockers haven't seen it yet.
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  We're gonna be going with, uh, episode 504, Know Your Rivals, here pretty soon.
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  But before we do that, we're out here Sunday night, live, and,
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  uh, talking to Clinton Bonner.
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  Adam: Yes, we are.
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  It…
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  It's, uh, fun to get on with Clinton, 'cause it's been a minute
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  since him and I have even chatted.
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  And you're right, we just put the Know Your Rivals, uh, Rams edition
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  in the, in the can yesterday.
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  And look, if you don't wanna listen to an hour and 45 minutes of that,
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  I can sum it up for you real quick.
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  It's F the Rams, and I think, uh, Clinton, you would agree
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  with the sentiment of that.
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  Clinton: So I have adopted the phrase crybaby [bleep] into my life.
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  Yeah.
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  Like, that's become a thing I now say because of you guys.
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  And I say that in all sorts of settings on the East Coast.
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  So it's, it's just spreading.
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  People, like, when I say that, they're like, they love it.
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  They spill out.
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  They think it's the greatest thing of all time.
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  Like, "You know, he's a crybaby [bleep]."
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  And I'm not even…
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  You know, it doesn't have to be McVay.
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  I mean, it, it started with McVay.
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  Yeah.
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  But now it's like, it applies to anybody who is a crybaby [bleep], like McVay.
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  Brandan: I, I, I have a feeling that that's been adopted into the lexicon
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  o- of many listeners, so I, I hope that you're happy spreading that around.
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  I, I think you must be, Adam.
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  Adam: Uh, hey, look, uh, big shout-out to my dad.
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  That's where I got that one from.
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  So, uh, he's had that one in the, in the holster for years and years.
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  That's been one of his favorites, so pretty cool.
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  Uh, big shout-out to Lemonok here, 1990 member for 15 months.
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  Dude, it's good to see you, too, even if it's through text on a, on the thing here.
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  Like, that's pretty cool.
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  Appreciate that, no doubt about it.
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  Uh, I hope that, uh, you are safe from all the crazy-ass
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  wildfires there in Washington.
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  Uh, I did reach out to Phil today.
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  It, he is in that Spokane-ish area, and, uh, he's, he's safe at the moment, and,
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  uh, so good, but to any of you being affected by that, uh, man, uh, stay safe.
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  It's, it's wild.
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  Brandan: Yeah, definitely impacting a lot of Seahawks fans over there, and,
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  and for the non-Seahawks fans, too.
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  Like, uh, we, we want everybody to be safe over there, so, uh-
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  Adam: Do we want…
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  If you're a Rams fan in Spokane, do we want- I mean- … your house to
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  still be standing after this, or like-
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  Brandan: I think I do
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  that's too far?
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  Yeah, I think I do.
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  Adam: Yeah, okay.
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  I just wanted to make sure.
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  Sometimes
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  Brandan: you gotta check that- I mean, you, you have to think
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  about it for a minute … okay.
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  But yeah, it's, we, we don't want homes burning down for e- even- Yeah,
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  that's fair … our biggest rivals.
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  Adam: Yeah.
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  Correct.
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  Okay.
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  All right.
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  Correct.
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  Brandan: Uh, we are talking training camp and looking back.
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  One, we're one week in, and, uh, that's pretty wild.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  We have, uh, a, a practice coming up that's gonna be open to the public
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  here toward the end of the week.
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  We're gonna have, uh, Hard Knocks coming up this week- Yes … that
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  I, I'm sure we're gonna be getting into, so got a lot of news and notes
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  here from this past week, gentlemen.
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  We've got Godzirahawk in with $10 saying, "You guys are a
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  sight for sore eyes and butts."
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  Uh, almost home from a trip to Nashville for the weekend.
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  Uh, you know, appreciate you checking in with the executive
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  producer donation, Godzirahawk.
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  Adam: Heck yeah.
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  Awesome.
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  And, uh, I don't think- Look, Mark, you're not allowed to go to Nashville without us.
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  Like, uh, you know, last time I was in Nashville, you were there.
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  How, how dare you go without giving us a heads up?
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  Clinton: Yeah.
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  What's up, Mark?
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  Uh, appreciate it a ton.
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  Uh, guys, it's, it's, we're a full week in.
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  We are a f- like you said, Brandon, a full week in now, and the pads are back
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  on, and the clickety-clacks are back.
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  The substation is, is doing its thing over across the bay, which is
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  something still, which is amazing.
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  There's gigantic movies in the theaters.
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  Uh, you know, the world is a, the wor- at least America is abuzz with
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  culture and fanfare, and football is really starting to permeate back.
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  I see two heads nodding.
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  You're like, "Yes, yes," right?
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  It just feels, Adam, I don't know about you, the page has turned, and
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  my brain mentally was like, "Oh my gosh," like it's August 1, but we
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  have football l- in literally 34 days.
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  Now real football.
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  Adam: Yeah, for real.
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  Look, and the three of us had talked throughout the off-season, and I know
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  specifically for me and Brandon, and I know you too, maybe to a lesser
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  degree, Clinton, having a hard time getting like locked in during the
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  off-season, and like coming up with lists and stupid topics to talk about
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  because I was just too busy basking in the glory of being current champions.
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  And, uh, yeah, with training camp getting rolling and starting to hear a few of the
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  reports come out that, again, take them with a grain of salt, but a lot of news
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  you'd rather hear- Yeah … than things you would not wanna hear, right, Brandon?
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  Brandan: Yeah.
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  Top five storylines so far.
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  The Seahawks are still Super Bowl champions.
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  Number two, we're Super Bowl champs.
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  Number three, we're defending Super Bowl champs.
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  Four, we're running it forward.
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  And, uh, five, we're gonna win the Super Bowl.
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  So, uh- That's right … I, I, I think that, uh, sums it up really nicely.
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  Ryan911 in with a 9.99
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  executive producer donation.
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  I don't wanna get too hype after one week of training camp, but I can't believe
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  we have JSN, Horton, and Kupp, the three greatest receivers in the history-
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  of NFL on one team at the same time.
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  The Tory Horton story is fascinating because we did v- we finally,
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  we finally, after all this time, found out what his injury was.
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  It wasn't shin splints.
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  No, he had a broken freaking leg.
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  He had a rod put in his leg in the off-season, and now it's super
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  sturdy, and he's out and back in training camp tou- catching
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  touchdown passes and doing his thing.
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  Clinton: Well, guys, I could chime in 'cause I saw Spider-Man last
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  night, so I feel like when we talk about bionic men, I could weigh
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  in heavily here and, and wisely.
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  So look-
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  Brandan: A receiver with web shooters would be- … very ideal.
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  Clinton: Pretty good.
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  Not-
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  Brandan: Spider-Man would be like- Not just
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  Clinton: stickum … the
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  Brandan: best wide receiver.
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  Clinton: Yeah, now who ha- who has the best hands in the history of the NFL?
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  Like just pure, best hands.
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  Jerry Rice
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  Brandan: probably.
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  Clinton: Jerry Rice is up there.
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  Steve Largent.
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  Like- Steve Largent.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Like pure stickum we- you know, web, web sticky hands.
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  That's an interesting debate for a different day.
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  But Tory Horton was extraordinarily fast.
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  And remember last year, we would kind of make fun of him a little bit because
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  sometimes he would- get ahead of himself and kinda like stumble like a gazelle,
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  but then go for 82 yards anyway.
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  Um, yeah, guys, if, if, Adam, I know you're a big proponent of, of, of
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  Tory Horton and we love the dude.
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  As a second-year guy, it's like, as a, as a fourth wide receiver currently,
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  like depth chart-wise, a four, right?
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  Like, we're chuckling about the, the embarrassment of riches there,
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  but, like, where, where do you, where do you think- I think Adam's
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  Brandan: chuckling because you put him too low
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  Clinton: I- well, look, Kupp's supposed, supposed to be having a
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  great off-season, and sh- what, we just paid Shead, and we know JSN's JSN.
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  So, where, where would you put him on this team anyway?
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  Adam, I'll toss that to you.
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  Adam: All right.
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  Good.
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  Well, I hope I'm back because you guys both froze on me there for a second.
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  But, uh, uh, so I don't know exactly what your question was- … but I, I, what
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  I can say is, uh, it's awesome having Torrey back, and the idea that our wide
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  receiver room has that kind of depth with him being, you know, considered a
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  backup, uh, at this point is outrageous.
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  I mean, the amount of touchdowns on the few targets that he got last year going
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  through week nine, like, that just shows you just what type of player that he is.
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  And, you know, if his leg is now, like, you know, Billion Dollar Man
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  strong- Yes … like, we're, we're in great shape, uh, at that position.
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  And I think not just the Horton story, but Arroyo- Mm-hmm
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  hearing about him in camp, hearing about Milroe having some nice days,
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  hearing Sam is, is looking super sharp, uh, Jadarian doing his thing,
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  the offensive line having continuity.
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  It…
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  But I think the most important thing I've been hearing, and again, this
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  doesn't mean anything, but again, it's one of the stories that you would
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  like to hear rather than other ones, the offense kinda having its way with
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  Brandan: the defense.
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  Hmm.
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  Yeah.
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  I, uh, Mike had some interesting things to say about that because,
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  um, you know, there, uh, is, is that, uh, being allowed, or is that
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  just, uh, what's been happening?
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  Uh, one of the things happening in chat, we've got The Snail donating, uh,
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  five Seahawkers podcast memberships, so big thanks to The Snail.
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  Yeah.
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  Clinton: Thank you, dude.
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  Brandan: Thanks coming in from the chat as well.
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  Lemonhawk1990 with $5, "Biggest 2026 storyline will be we will be
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  back-to-back Super Bowl champs.
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  Calling it now, and hopefully living in Washington."
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  Yeah, we hope you're, you're joining, uh, the rest of the
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  Seahawks fans here in Washington.
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  And yeah, so, uh, there, you, you ran through about, uh, I
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  think our entire show, Adam.
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  Adam: Well, no, I ju- I, I gave the bullet points.
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  I gave the outline- … so now we can crank through 'em, man.
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  I was setting you up.
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  That's called being a professional.
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  Brandan: Yeah, yeah.
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  You've, uh- … and now we don't know exactly where to go next,
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  but, uh, we'll go, we'll go with one of those bullet points.
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  And, uh, I, I guess, uh, the one bullet point you didn't, uh, put in there- Mm
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  was our, our Seahawks defense.
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  They have, uh, a new name.
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  They are m- Managers of Violence.
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  Clinton: I saw that on the thumbnail.
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  So where did that…
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  I, I love it.
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  You know, like, you know, we were the MOB, we're the dark
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  side, and now we're the MOV.
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  Where, where'd that, where'd it stem from, Brandon?
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  Was it a particular player?
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  I
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  Brandan: th- I think it was Byron Murphy.
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  It was one of the guys, or maybe it was Leo who was wearing a, a, a- Jarran Reed
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  … Manager of Violence, uh, uh, T-shirt.
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  Who was it?
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  Adam: Jarran Reed.
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  Brandan: It was Jarran, okay.
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  Clinton: Manager of Violence.
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  I love that because, you know, the, uh, you know, uh, what's not stated is
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  that, like, you know, we could choose to be violent whenever we want to.
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  We manage our violence, you know?
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  It, that, that's the whole implication there, which I love.
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  And, um, yeah, it does feel that way.
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  And while we're talking about the defense, we joked about it in whatever
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  Discord and, and some text threads.
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  How about Madden 2026 ranking the Seahawks defense as 10th best in the
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  game while, while misspelling- Seahawks
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  the Seahawks.
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  The name.
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  Adam: Oh, God, I didn't even catch that.
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  Clinton: I know.
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  Wow.
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  I didn't see it the first time either.
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  They put a…
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  Well, the good news is they put a W i- like, in the wrong place, but if you're
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  gonna put an extra letter inside Seahawks, add them, it might as well be a W.
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  Adam: Might as well because, uh, there'll be stacking more dubs this season for sure
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  on their march back to running it forward and being back-to-back champs here.
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  But, uh, the Managers of Violence thing is interesting.
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  Uh- It is good … I, I love the, the turn of phrase.
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  What I am curious about, though, are they, like, low level, mid level, or
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  upper management- … of violence?
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  That's what I really wanna know.
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  Brandan: I, I think we have managers at all levels and, and they're also, while
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  managing, they'll also be executing.
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  So I, I think that, uh…
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  A- and I do like the, the phrase executing, uh … Wow.
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  Adam: With
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  Brandan: the NFL too.
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  Yeah.
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  Adam: That's violent.
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  Yeah.
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  Which one of us was military?
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  I think you'll figure it out real quick.
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  Yeah.
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  Brandan: Uh, yeah, the, so Managers of Violence.
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  I, I just think it's interesting that they've…
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  Th- they're not just going to go with, "Oh, well, this worked for us last year.
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  We were the MOB and, um, the dark side."
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  And so it's like they're coming up with, um, other themes to kind of, to go
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  along with the defense this year to…
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  Because one of the things that they talked about was not wanting…
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  Wi- with there being some new players, new rookies, new guys coming to the
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  team, they, they didn't want them to feel left out in some way, which i-
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  that's kinda cool that they want to bring everybody along and have, have these new
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  themes that everybody's involved with
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  Clinton: Yeah.
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  I love, I love all, all of that.
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  I love nicknames, so I'm, I'm a sucker for all of those things too.
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  Guys, one of the topics that I really wanted to chat about too, which
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  seemingly w- might as well go to it now, like we talk about Horton and we
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  bring up Arroyo and, you know, Josh DeHoop who brought the, the halfbacks,
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  running backs, everything else getting more involved in the pass game.
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  The more and more I see all these highlights, and I realize, you know,
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  pads are on now, but it's still just, it's still practice, whatever.
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  But all of these beautiful catches, Horton on the sideline, Arroyo down the seam,
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  Jadarian Price over his shoulder, all these things, and everybody's like going
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  gaga over the pass catchers, which I love.
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  But Brandon, the part I think I love the most is that it doesn't matter
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  which dude is spinning the ball.
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  It could be Drew Lock, it could be Milroe, it could be Darnold.
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  These are dots, and these are like back shoulder…
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  These are things that are…
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  These are not like, oh, a two-yard horizontal toss out to, to Chubby
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  Deebo Samuels, who's gonna get tackled for a loss for three.
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  These are in rhythm, in like, just like seemingly like the system is kind of
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  getting even more matured and more locked in, and that part excites me, Brandon.
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  I feel like our QBs, the room, might have actually gotten better
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  after a championship season.
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  Brandan: Lisa in chat, Whistle Jacket saying, "Clinton
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  getting tweaked about Arroyo."
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  I love it.
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  Yeah.
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  Clinton: About the passes go- I, still, yeah, Arroyo, Arroyo's been playing good.
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  But those passes to those dudes-
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  Brandan: Right
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  … Clinton: again, they seem to be a little bit even level up crisper, uh, than
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  they were, you know, halfway through the year last year, which is great.
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  Brandan: No, if, if, uh, we have three quarterbacks that, uh, can all sling it
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  and, uh, you know, the receivers are doing well, I, I am excited about the offense.
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  And especially with the offense being kind of the part that was in
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  question going into the off-season with a new offensive coordinator.
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  Uh, I like the idea of being hyped up, especially if maybe we're gonna
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  be featuring tight ends a little bit more, especially since, uh, hopefully
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  we have some capable tight ends.
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  I know AJ Barner's capable.
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  Uh, the, the pass catching capability beyond that, if Arroyo
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  can fit into that, even better.
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  Although we just talked about how deep we are at, at, uh, wide receiver.
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  If we're, if we're six deep at pass catchers a- and, uh, still
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  focused on running the ball, um, we're gonna, we're hopefully gonna
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  have some balance, right Adam?
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  Adam: Well, the cool part about all of that, these are
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  the problems you wanna have.
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  Right.
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  You have all of this talent that you can now incorporate into the offense,
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  and it does present a challenge, no doubt, for somebody like Brian Fleury,
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  first-time play caller, in that how am I gonna incorporate all these guys?
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  Where is that balance in terms of not just running to pass
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  ratios, but also formationally?
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  Like, how often are we- Mm-hmm … gonna be out there in 12 personnel like
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  the Seahawks were last year, where I believe they either, they were
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  in the top five at the very least running 12 personnel last year.
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  Um, they even ran some 13 personnel after Sean McVay invented it.
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  And so that was cool.
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  Uh, so you know, what's gonna be most effective for this team when
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  it comes to the passing game?
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  Is it gonna be a lot more, uh, you know, 12, 13 personnel with more tight
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  ends, maybe more 11, uh, personnel with, uh, three receiver sets?
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  Or are we gonna see a lot more two back stuff?
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  And I saw Robbie Ouzts mention it in the comments here from Cope
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  Approach here just a minute ago.
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  Um, there's a cool video by Legion of, of 12s that, that they put out the other day.
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  He does some nice film analysis stuff.
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  Kind of a newer channel, or at least it was new to me.
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  Um, and he was talking about the way the Niners use Juszczyk in dash motion,
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  is what he calls it, and basically it's kind of that sprint motion of
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  the fullback who is lined up on the line, and there's a bunch of different
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  things they can do out of that.
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  And how effective that was for the Niners last year, it could make
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  Ouzts a valuable part of this too.
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  So how do you balance that?
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  Hell if I know.
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  That's why I'm not the offensive coordinator, but man alive, it is
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  awesome to hear that the offense has been progressing and getting the
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  best of the best defense in football, uh, throughout training camp, or
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  at least these first few days.
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  Brandon, you had mentioned is that being allowed, or is it that the defen- do
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  you think that, uh, Spoon and Ernest Jones and Byron Murphy, like, allow
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  anything, like, when they're out there?
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  Brandan: I suppose not.
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  So I haven't seen the video that you're talking about, uh, with the
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  sprint motion with the fullback.
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  Is that something…
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  'Cause one of the things that we've seen from Kyle Shanahan is that he's
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  always effective of, at vacating the middle seemingly to where he's getting
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  wide receiv- o- uh, wide receivers open over the middle for kind of
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  easy completions for Brock Purdy.
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  Is, is it, uh, that, that sprint out drawing them one of the linebackers
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  kind of out of the box so that way it, it- there's one fewer defender
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  that you really have to worry about, and that kind of makes some of
• 16:37
  those throws a little bit easier?
• 16:39
  Adam: Yeah, I think that could be an option.
• 16:41
  The, I think the focus of the video was more on how it impacts the run game.
• 16:44
  So n- Mm … there wasn't a lot of insight into that part of it.
• 16:47
  But think of it in terms of how much they do use Juszczyk out in patterns, right?
• 16:52
  Um, as he's gotten older, he's been a lot less effective of that.
• 16:55
  But, you know, Ouzts has that sort of ability with his tight end background.
• 16:59
  But I think more so what you'd see from the running back position that
• 17:02
  would help the passing game is that insert motion stuff that they do
• 17:07
  with, uh, McCaffrey a lot, and how many ways that they get him the ball.
• 17:11
  And I think it's pretty evident that that's something that they're gonna
• 17:14
  try to do, or at least get the running backs involved in the passing game
• 17:18
  with as much as we're seeing them get the ball out in the passing game to
• 17:22
  Jadarian early, just to see how that all works out and see if that could
• 17:26
  be a big part of their, their offense.
• 17:28
  And that could very well influence the linebackers to void maybe some
• 17:31
  more space, especially in the middle.
• 17:33
  Brandan: Yeah, Cope Approach in chat saying, "Heard the dash motion
• 17:36
  plays led to CMC's biggest runs."
• 17:38
  Yeah.
• 17:38
  "Opened up a lot of runs for him."
• 17:40
  And speaking of running backs too, that was one of the things in my notes is
• 17:44
  just kind of looking at this running back battle and Jadarian Price- Mm-hmm
• 17:48
  getting a l- a lot of time with the ones, and maybe with the expectations that
• 17:53
  you'll see Price then on first and second down, and see Holani as more of the third
• 17:57
  down running back being, uh, s- that he's so well praised in his, uh, blitz pickup
• 18:03
  and, and, um- Mm … wanting him in the backfield in the passing game primarily.
• 18:08
  So, uh, if, if that works out, if we're seeing Price on first and second down
• 18:13
  to start week one, then I, I think that means good things for this offense because
• 18:18
  I think when you draft a guy in the first round, that's the expectation is
• 18:22
  that's gonna be the guy to be ready and, uh, yeah, if, if they're combining that
• 18:26
  then with some of the fullback motions and able to get Price, uh, some, some
• 18:31
  space, I, I, I could be very excited about the Seahawks offense, Clinton.
• 18:35
  Clinton: Yeah, the, you took it where I wanted to go 'cause
• 18:37
  I wanted to talk running back.
• 18:39
  And I just wonder, you, he, we just said, like, we're 34 or so days out
• 18:43
  from actual kickoff, like September, whatever, you know, it's like right,
• 18:45
  right around there, something like that, or maybe I'm a off by a week, whatever.
• 18:48
  But we're, we're hovering in, and, you know, you see the one-on-one
• 18:54
  drills, and you see J- Jadarian doing his best, but not quite there yet.
• 18:59
  But that's okay.
• 19:00
  He's like t- seven days into his, his NFL venture.
• 19:04
  But then you watch Holani do his thing, and it's like, dude, he's…
• 19:07
  Like, he legitimately seals up every single time.
• 19:10
  Doesn't matter if it's like a defensive tackle or, or he's going
• 19:13
  one-on-one versus a linebacker.
• 19:15
  It's like, dude, he's, he's got…
• 19:16
  It's like, you know, like Bruce Wayne in Gotham.
• 19:18
  It's locked down, dudes.
• 19:20
  So I just wonder, week one, week two, week three, if Holani is the clear best,
• 19:27
  you know, uh, best guy to protect Sam.
• 19:29
  Does he get the, the starting nod, saying, "You know what?
• 19:32
  We have enough juice."
• 19:33
  We just talked about six, seven dudes we could throw the ball to Adam.
• 19:37
  So is it more like, "Hey, you know what?
• 19:38
  Let Holani start, and let the rookie marinate a bit more."
• 19:43
  What do you…
• 19:43
  How do you think it shakes out?
• 19:45
  Adam: I guess it all depends on how the coaches feel about Jadarian's, uh,
• 19:49
  progression throughout training camp here.
• 19:51
  'Cause I, I listened to Price talk a little bit in an interview, uh, yesterday,
• 19:56
  and he spoke, uh, specifically on the pass protection side, and really felt
• 20:01
  like he was making massive strides- Yeah
• 20:02
  and felt like things were getting a lot easier and a lot better for him.
• 20:06
  You know, this is one of those things about the running back p- position
• 20:10
  that I think people wring their hands about, like, far too much.
• 20:14
  Hmm.
• 20:15
  The, the pass pro part of it.
• 20:16
  Is it important?
• 20:17
  Yes.
• 20:17
  Does a guy need to learn how to do it?
• 20:19
  Yes.
• 20:20
  Is it the same as learning the, uh, rhythm and paths of outside zone in,
• 20:28
  you know, where your cutback lanes are?
• 20:29
  Hell no, it's not even close, right?
• 20:31
  Like, so the idea, like, everybody worrying about, "Well, who's gonna be the
• 20:35
  third down pass protector," and like all that, um, one of the guys, and they'll
• 20:39
  be good enough at it, and it'll be fine.
• 20:40
  Like, I, I just, I just don't find myself, uh, thinking or worrying about third down
• 20:48
  pass pro from the back all that often.
• 20:51
  Like, it's an- I,
• 20:52
  Clinton: I get that.
• 20:52
  I, I, I get that, but I guess what I'm challenging or asking
• 20:55
  about is, do we think Holani will win, like be RB1 because he, he's
• 21:01
  seemingly safer right now, you know?
• 21:03
  And he's a- Well- … good back himself, like, and be on the, be
• 21:06
  on the field first and second down potentially, not just third down.
• 21:10
  Adam: I think kind of the way that Brandon put it, like, being, Holani being
• 21:13
  the third down back, that makes sense.
• 21:15
  I, I think this is gonna be Price as your starter, uh, in terms of taking
• 21:21
  the primary amount of carries and being featured in the run game and early downs.
• 21:26
  Um, he's just too talented, and I like George Holani a lot.
• 21:29
  Brandan: Sure.
• 21:29
  Adam: But, I mean, compare the two players, especially coming out of
• 21:32
  college, George Holani's a good player.
• 21:35
  Price is better.
• 21:36
  Like, there's more talent there.
• 21:37
  There's a reason why he gets drafted in the first round and Holani goes undrafted.
• 21:41
  Uh, i- and it's pretty obvious.
• 21:43
  So I, I think this is gonna be Price's job to lose when it's all said and done
• 21:47
  in terms of volume of carries early on.
• 21:50
  Brandan: Josh DeHooman in chat saying, "Let people sleep on Holani.
• 21:53
  He'll make them pay."
• 21:54
  Holani/Price/Wilson/Sharp is going to make the league pay.
• 21:58
  Pound that rock as Ouzts and Russell pave the way for them.
• 22:01
  And, uh, Cope Approach talking about some of the depth as well at wide receiver.
• 22:06
  Emmanuel Henderson Jr.
• 22:07
  having a good camp.
• 22:08
  I want him on the main roster if we carry- Hmm … a sixth wide receiver.
• 22:11
  A seventh?
• 22:12
  This is a good note.
• 22:12
  A seventh?
• 22:12
  A good note for everybody, uh, who is, uh, watching training camp.
• 22:18
  Um, you- you're gonna fall in love with…
• 22:21
  You're gonna have a- a d- a- a training camp crush.
• 22:24
  Yep.
• 22:24
  And it's gonna be, it's gonna be hard when they don't make the team.
• 22:27
  I'm not saying Emmanuel Henderson Jr.
• 22:29
  is gonna be that guy, but he could be that guy.
• 22:31
  So I, I just wanna prepare you and everybody that you- we're gonna see
• 22:35
  these guys, they're gonna ball out in preseason, and then r- realize that
• 22:40
  sixth wide receiver is probably pass catcher number nine on this roster.
• 22:45
  Adam: And gunner number two.
• 22:46
  Clinton: Right, right.
• 22:47
  That- that- that's where, that's where you're gonna win
• 22:49
  and get a, get a roster spot.
• 22:50
  And two things is we also get hard knocks, we mentioned that
• 22:54
  earlier, which starts in two days.
• 22:56
  So we get that to fall, to fall in love even deeper and even
• 22:59
  quicker, 'cause we'll get to see real personalities which we don't
• 23:02
  normally get a look into that deeply.
• 23:05
  And the other side is too, like Henderson right now I think is seven, right?
• 23:09
  'Cause we ke- Bobo and White I think are five, six.
• 23:14
  Put them w- whatever order- Yeah … you care about.
• 23:15
  Brandan: Bobo's been out though.
• 23:16
  He…
• 23:17
  I- I think he's dealing with an injury, but I think that's what's- Like he
• 23:20
  Adam: just got paid, so it's not like he's in danger of
• 23:22
  Brandan: getting cut.
• 23:22
  I…
• 23:22
  Oh, yeah, I'm not worried about Bobo.
• 23:24
  Yeah.
• 23:24
  It's, it's just that I think that's what's allowed Henderson
• 23:26
  to kind of step up a little bit.
• 23:27
  Clinton: It's, it's, it's a…
• 23:28
  I mean, you know, it's a ridiculously deep wide receiver corps.
• 23:31
  And talk about the Seahawks being slept on and all that stuff, and, and part of
• 23:34
  it's like it's true, because we're, you know, "Oh, it's the fifth best team in
• 23:38
  power rankings and 10th best defense."
• 23:40
  Like okay, I, I guess.
• 23:42
  I mean, I think we won the Super Bowl and beat the Rams, you know,
• 23:44
  uh, twice down the stretch, but okay.
• 23:46
  Um- But the wide receiver group, yes, we have the stub with JSN, and you have
• 23:51
  the veteran with Kupp, but it's, it's…
• 23:53
  It is very, very, I think, deep and talented.
• 23:56
  Like, there are teams out there, like let's look at the 49ers, who
• 23:59
  lose Pearsall and wish him luck, but, uh, dude can't stay healthy.
• 24:02
  It sucks.
• 24:03
  But they lo- they lose Pearsall, and they go get 30-year-old Deebo, who's
• 24:07
  the horizontal king at this point.
• 24:09
  He's fine, but they're not deep.
• 24:13
  They're not deep at all.
• 24:14
  And I'm not cheering or hoping for any sort of injury, but the ability
• 24:19
  to sustain injury and then have dudes right behind that I think are
• 24:24
  starters in, in other organizations, uh, we are, we have a, the linebacking
• 24:29
  corps, our wide receiver corps.
• 24:31
  Adam, for me, are two spots where I'm like, "Damn, we're pretty deep."
• 24:34
  We could take, you know, the old He-Man, the, uh, the, the body armor He-Man when
• 24:38
  he takes a couple of chinks in his armor.
• 24:40
  I don't want them, but it's football.
• 24:42
  It happens.
• 24:43
  I think we're really deep in those spots particularly.
• 24:45
  Brandan: Clinton, I, I wish you could have seen Adam's reaction,
• 24:48
  uh, when you called Deebo fine.
• 24:50
  Because, uh, he made this face like you were still overrating Deebo Samuel.
• 24:55
  Clinton: Oh, yeah.
• 24:55
  I said fine.
• 24:56
  I didn't say good, uh, Adam.
• 24:57
  I d- uh, I didn't say good.
• 24:59
  I said, "Yeah,
• 24:59
  Brandan: he's fine."
• 24:59
  Oh, no, but fine was, like, too much for Adam.
• 25:02
  Yeah.
• 25:02
  He was like, "Really?
• 25:02
  Is he
• 25:02
  Clinton: fine?"
• 25:04
  Adam: I mean, yeah.
• 25:04
  I mean, that face was, "Are we sure?"
• 25:07
  Like, like, if…
• 25:08
  'Cause I equivocate, uh, fine and good as, like, kind of, uh,
• 25:12
  you know, one next to the other.
• 25:15
  I would say that he's a roster spot.
• 25:17
  Mm-hmm.
• 25:17
  Like, that's, that's where he is in his career right now.
• 25:20
  When Brandon and I recorded Ram's, uh, preview yesterday, uh, I
• 25:25
  asked, uh, Brandon a question.
• 25:26
  I'll ask you the same, Clinton.
• 25:27
  Um, how many plays do you remember of Deebo Samuel in Washington last year?
• 25:33
  Clinton: No, uh, there was like one, a couple early.
• 25:35
  He had a couple touchdowns early.
• 25:36
  Oh, even
• 25:37
  Adam: one?
• 25:37
  But
• 25:37
  Clinton: like, uh, but plays, I, I don't.
• 25:39
  I don't remember him, like bouncing around like a, like a ping pong
• 25:43
  ball like he did as an early 49er, like super tough to tackle.
• 25:46
  You know, d- no, that, that was not it.
• 25:49
  Or being like super dynamic after the catch.
• 25:52
  No, it just, no.
• 25:54
  They'd scheme him open, throw the ball really short.
• 25:56
  He would stumble for a few yards and the next play would happen.
• 25:59
  That's it.
• 26:00
  That's what I saw.
• 26:01
  Adam: Yeah.
• 26:02
  He's, uh, he's closer to washed than he is fine.
• 26:05
  That's where, that's where I'd put him at this point.
• 26:07
  Brandan: Yeah.
• 26:08
  Yeah, washed seems appropriate.
• 26:10
  Uh, Whistlejacket in chat saying, "Can't wait to see the Minotaur's
• 26:13
  hot pants up close on Hard
• 26:16
  Adam: Knocks."
• 26:16
  Ooh.
• 26:17
  Brandan: Yeah.
• 26:17
  W- I, Lisa was at training camp recently, and I, I feel like all she did was text
• 26:22
  me pictures of, uh, Derek, uh, uh, Derek in his pants, so, uh, I- Derek in- I
• 26:27
  Adam: love how you say that like you weren't enjoying it.
• 26:30
  Like I, I, I
• 26:32
  Brandan: think you, I think you were into it.
• 26:32
  She, Lisa knows what I like.
• 26:33
  Yeah.
• 26:33
  Or what did I say?
• 26:34
  Clinton: Could only, could only pinch in on the, the, on the
• 26:36
  phone so much, Brandon, you
• 26:37
  Brandan: know?
• 26:37
  Clinton: Yeah.
• 26:37
  Like geez, get a little closer.
• 26:38
  Get a better zoom.
• 26:38
  Brandan: Derek, more pants shots.
• 26:40
  More please.
• 26:41
  Uh, w- what else are you guys looking for on Hard Knocks?
• 26:44
  'Cause one of the things, uh, like Adam, you know, I've been pounding
• 26:48
  the table wondering about when this Devon Witherspoon deal's gonna happen.
• 26:51
  I feel like it should've happened by now.
• 26:53
  I want it to happen.
• 26:54
  Why hasn't he been signed yet?
• 26:55
  And I've finally come up, I, I've, I've come up with some hopium that, uh- Hmm
• 27:00
  I think will explain it all away for me.
• 27:02
  And that is that, uh, they're waiting for the episode to air where Devon Witherspoon
• 27:08
  is signing his contract with the Seahawks so he can break the news that he's
• 27:12
  back with the Seahawks on Hard Knocks.
• 27:15
  Adam: Well, h- being somebody who's never watched an episode of Hard Knocks
• 27:19
  in my entire life, not one, uh, is that something that they would do?
• 27:22
  Like, is that, is that like even in range?
• 27:24
  Brandan: I have no idea.
• 27:24
  No, I, I haven't watched it a lot either, but, uh-
• 27:26
  Adam: Yeah
• 27:26
  … Brandan: I, I, that's just what I want to happen.
• 27:28
  Adam: I hear you.
• 27:29
  But, you know, we talked about this a bit yesterday as well, but like, uh, what
• 27:34
  percent chance in your heart, Brandon, 'cause I didn't ask it like this to
• 27:38
  you, that you feel Devon Witherspoon does not get re-signed by the Seahawks?
• 27:45
  Brandan: Oh, it's going to happen.
• 27:47
  And if-
• 27:47
  Adam: Okay, so it's 0%, right?
• 27:50
  0%.
• 27:50
  Okay, then don't worry about the timing, bro.
• 27:52
  Like, it doesn't matter to you.
• 27:53
  Devon Witherspoon's gonna get his money.
• 27:54
  He's gonna be on the team.
• 27:55
  He's gonna be an F, the play up kinda guy.
• 27:58
  He's gonna be a heartbeat guy for this team.
• 28:00
  Like, dude, stop worrying about it.
• 28:01
  Brandan: This is like Christmas.
• 28:02
  When do you want it to be Christmas?
• 28:03
  I want it to be now.
• 28:04
  I wanna open my presents now.
• 28:06
  I don't wanna wait.
• 28:08
  Adam: But see, the thing is, is we already have Spoo.
• 28:10
  You, you don't have to worry about it.
• 28:11
  The present's already here.
• 28:12
  Clinton: Like, Denzel got his money, right?
• 28:14
  Denzel Ward got paid again, became the highest paid, uh, corner in the game,
• 28:18
  and Gonzo's still not paid, right?
• 28:20
  So-
• 28:21
  Adam: Yeah
• 28:21
  … Clinton: it could just be that a jousting/chicken game, some sort
• 28:25
  of m- medieval chicken jousting game, of course, um, where the…
• 28:28
  And with the same agents on both of the sides just literally playing it
• 28:33
  as best they possibly can to get the most amount of money from two different
• 28:37
  franchises with what will be the two highest paid cornerbacks in the history.
• 28:41
  Whoever that agent is, that dude, that is the dude in the…
• 28:44
  He's in the pole position, whoever that guy is.
• 28:45
  Yeah, the CAA
• 28:46
  Brandan: is winning, uh-
• 28:47
  Clinton: Yeah, yeah
• 28:48
  … Brandan: with those two players-
• 28:49
  Clinton: Yeah … about those big deals.
• 28:49
  I, I, I mean, like, it's again, my, I always…
• 28:52
  When Abe was gonna sign, people were like, "He's not gonna sign."
• 28:55
  When Derek Hall was, was, "Hey, it'd be really cool if we re-…"
• 28:58
  "He's not gonna sign."
• 28:59
  And I always try and remind people, like, y- these are young men who
• 29:03
  have a chance to go make- Like, in Spoon's case, 90 million, 100 million
• 29:08
  guaranteed by the, a stroke of a pen.
• 29:12
  They're going to do it because they're smart humans, and
• 29:15
  they play a violent sport.
• 29:17
  Even though we're managers of violence, boys, it's a violent sport.
• 29:20
  They're going to sign, and they're going to make money with their money.
• 29:23
  These are smart people.
• 29:24
  So, uh, you know, it'll happen, but I want…
• 29:26
  I, uh, Brandon, I'm also with you.
• 29:28
  I want my cake and I want it now.
• 29:30
  I want Spoon locked up with a big ribbon, uh, Griswold style for us, Brandon.
• 29:36
  Brandan: All right.
• 29:36
  Well, the next, uh, other than Derek Hall in his hot pants- Uh, I will put, um,
• 29:42
  shadow boxing with Derek Hall on there, because, uh, apparently we've heard
• 29:46
  of this, this idea that the defense, they do these shadow boxing things.
• 29:51
  Yeah.
• 29:51
  I actually wanna see it, and it sounds like it's something that
• 29:53
  they're going to feature on Hard Knocks, and we, we hopefully get
• 29:57
  to see Derek Hall and Riley Mills.
• 29:59
  Um, 'cause I, again, I- I have an idea of what I think it is.
• 30:03
  I want to see it in action.
• 30:04
  Adam: Well, you're not gonna see it because they do it in
• 30:06
  the shadows so you can't see it.
• 30:07
  That's the entire point.
• 30:08
  I don't think that's
• 30:08
  Brandan: what that means.
• 30:09
  Adam: They…
• 30:09
  Well, I…
• 30:10
  You, you don't even know what it is.
• 30:12
  Clinton: They did- How
• 30:12
  Adam: can you
• 30:13
  Clinton: say that?
• 30:13
  They did this during the, um, during the run-up to, to the Super Bowl.
• 30:16
  Yeah.
• 30:16
  They did some shadow boxing on the stage, and it was, I- I think
• 30:18
  it was Leo or somebody else.
• 30:20
  And yeah, I just, I, I see it, I understand it, but the whole thing
• 30:25
  is like you gotta kinda like trust the other dude that, you know, they
• 30:29
  gotta make a move, like, while you're making a move, and you can't make
• 30:31
  the move before you make the move.
• 30:32
  It's, it's a little bit…
• 30:33
  I, I don't, I don't love shadow boxing, guys.
• 30:35
  I think I know what it is and I, I'm not the biggest…
• 30:37
  I, I think it's too manipulatable.
• 30:40
  I, I'm not a fan.
• 30:40
  Now, chess, on the other hand, I think that's why Bobo and Drake Thomas have
• 30:45
  a legit tr- uh, chess rivalry going.
• 30:48
  Now, that's, that's a real game of wit and, uh, and strategy.
• 30:52
  I love a game of chess.
• 30:54
  Adam: So my theory of exactly what shadow boxing is, or at least in the context
• 30:58
  of the way the Seahawks are doing it, is just a manly way to say play fight.
• 31:02
  That, that's it.
• 31:03
  Like, they're just play fighting, right?
• 31:05
  Clinton: Yeah.
• 31:05
  Yeah.
• 31:05
  Yeah.
• 31:06
  Adam: All right.
• 31:07
  Good enough.
• 31:07
  That's
• 31:07
  Clinton: basically it.
• 31:08
  Adam: Yeah.
• 31:09
  Uh, I think a storyline that intrigues me a lot more than, uh, guys punching
• 31:13
  air is, uh, the idea of Byron Murphy, uh, in his continued ascension in just kind
• 31:19
  of what you're hearing out of camp and the way things are going for him in…
• 31:24
  Look, it, it does seem as if he is on the trajectory to,
• 31:29
  not someday, like this year-
• 31:31
  Clinton: Mm-hmm
• 31:32
  … Adam: be the best defensive tackle in football and what that would mean
• 31:36
  to leveling up this defense another level, especially when you've got Riley
• 31:41
  Mills, who sounds like he's having a hell of a training camp right beside
• 31:44
  him as well, along with all of the other studs that we know that we have.
• 31:47
  So I think that's something that excites me in a way that, uh, I can't wait to see.
• 31:52
  Brandan: Yeah, if you listen to Gray Zabel, uh, it sounds like he's already
• 31:55
  tired of going up against Byron Murphy every day because, and having to
• 31:58
  deal with, uh, uh, his talent and…
• 32:02
  Not that he's tired of it.
• 32:03
  He's- it, it just…
• 32:05
  Gray is one of the coolest dudes to listen to talk in the press
• 32:08
  conferences, and, uh, I enjoy that.
• 32:10
  Uh, I also saw CBS Sports has Byron Murphy ranked number six among interior
• 32:15
  defensive linemen, just a couple spots behind Leonard Williams, which it
• 32:19
  seems low for both those guys, but, uh, having two interior defenders on
• 32:23
  the, in the top 10 is pretty strong.
• 32:26
  So yeah- Mm … I, I'm with you, Adam.
• 32:27
  I, I want to see me some Byron Murphy.
• 32:29
  Um, there on Hard Knocks as well.
• 32:31
  Clinton: Yeah.
• 32:32
  It, it's gonna be very…
• 32:34
  It's year three, and it wasn't like…
• 32:36
  It's not like, oh, it's year three and we have to wait to see what he becomes.
• 32:39
  We, we saw it.
• 32:41
  We saw, you know, y- his sophomore year, year two, he became an absolute monster.
• 32:45
  He was very good in year one.
• 32:46
  Sometimes you had to, like, go, you know, un- under the covers a bit, to be like,
• 32:50
  oh, w- was he really successful there?
• 32:51
  Oh yeah, he's getting double-teamed, he's on one knee taking on two dudes
• 32:55
  and, you know, Ernest Jones is able to get a, a, a, a tackle, uh, for
• 32:58
  one yard because he's doing his job.
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  He was more pronounced last year.
• 33:02
  And it, it's, it seems natural that in year three, guys, he might
• 33:08
  take that step forward again.
• 33:10
  And you look at, like, uh, a- uh, Brandon, I wonder who was ranked above.
• 33:14
  You said Leo, and I'm assuming Jalen Carter is also in that top five
• 33:19
  for sure also, uh, the other dudes who were there w- with Murphy, six.
• 33:24
  I don't know that there's a better, I don't know there's a better
• 33:28
  defensive, like how many more better defense tackles are there?
• 33:30
  Like, who else is on that list if you, if you happen to have it up?
• 33:33
  Brandan: Uh, well- Vita Vea?
• 33:35
  Uh, I don't think Vea was…
• 33:37
  He was on the bottom, and uh, it was uh, the, the interior defender
• 33:41
  from the Titans, um- The big boy … I think he was number one.
• 33:44
  Um, and then, you know, Jalen- Oh, Jeffrey
• 33:46
  Adam: Simmons,
• 33:47
  Brandan: yeah … Jeffrey Simmons was number one.
• 33:47
  He's a, he's a
• 33:48
  Adam: monster.
• 33:48
  Very good.
• 33:49
  Yeah.
• 33:49
  Brandan: Um- He's been good for a long time.
• 33:50
  And then the other, uh, interior defender from the Eagles I think
• 33:54
  was somewhere in the top 10.
• 33:55
  I don't have it memorized, so- I got you, I got you.
• 33:57
  Yeah, that's- I just, uh, I knew where our Seahawks were.
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  Clinton: It's, I know it's all subjective.
• 34:01
  I understand all that.
• 34:02
  I-
• 34:02
  Brandan: And I knew who was number one.
• 34:03
  Clinton: Yeah, I think- I mean, Dexter
• 34:04
  Adam: Lawrence has to be in
• 34:05
  Clinton: there.
• 34:05
  Yeah, I was gonna say he's prob- probably up there as well.
• 34:08
  It's, it's, it's ascension, it's uh, also like he's surrounding, Adam,
• 34:12
  you were hinting at it with Riley Mills and Leo and Lawrence and Nwosu,
• 34:17
  and it is a very powerhouse line.
• 34:19
  Um, this to me, and it's one of those things where, you know, Byron
• 34:24
  Murphy has not gotten the fanfare, not nearly the fanfare Jalen Carter's
• 34:29
  gotten in terms of like Pro Bowls and All-Pros and all that stuff.
• 34:33
  And it seems to me that, Adam, this would be the year that it's like the,
• 34:38
  the, the league-wide after a Super Bowl opens up and goes, "Oh my God,
• 34:43
  this, this guy is an absolute…
• 34:45
  He, he's the next DT," like the best one in the league for the next,
• 34:49
  whatever, six years after this year.
• 34:51
  It seems he's right on that kind of cusp of like absolute stardom
• 34:56
  in the middle of the field.
• 34:57
  Adam: Yeah, absolutely.
• 34:58
  I think he's gonna start to be talked about in Aaron Donald-type- Mm … uh,
• 35:03
  conversations here, uh, beginning this year, and then certainly into year four.
• 35:08
  Clinton: That'd
• 35:08
  Adam: be sick.
• 35:08
  But y- really what I've noticed in terms of the talk, you know, around
• 35:14
  the media, is that the guys that are kinda general sports guys, like
• 35:18
  they'll talk about Jalen Carter and talk about how great that guy is- Yeah
• 35:22
  who takes plays off and is- Hmm … you know, kind of a, a, a knucklehead.
• 35:26
  Uh, and they really don't understand what's happening with Byron Murphy.
• 35:30
  But then when you listen to guys who are NFL-centric, right?
• 35:34
  Hmm.
• 35:34
  Like the Pelisseros of the world and, you know, guys of that ilk, um, they hol-
• 35:39
  they already hold Byron Murphy up there.
• 35:41
  Clinton: Hmm.
• 35:41
  Adam: And yeah, I think this is the year that he truly breaks out.
• 35:45
  And listen to his, uh, goals for this year, you know, double digit
• 35:49
  sacks, he wants to be All-Pro.
• 35:51
  Like, not at the expense of the team or anything, like those things will
• 35:53
  take care of themselves if he just does his job, uh, no doubt about it.
• 35:57
  But- He knows, he knows, like, on the inside.
• 36:01
  He's like, "I've got that ability in me."
• 36:03
  And man, is it…
• 36:04
  I- to me personally, as a football fan, there is nothing more exciting
• 36:08
  than having super-duper stars in the middle of your trenches.
• 36:12
  Mm.
• 36:12
  Right?
• 36:13
  And that's exactly what Byron Murphy is.
• 36:15
  And I've seen Rick, uh, in the chat here talking about the offensive
• 36:20
  line, and I think this is probably the other biggest story of camp, to
• 36:23
  be honest, is just the continuity there and how much they're improving.
• 36:28
  Listen to Leo Williams talk about, uh, the way the offensive line has been playing
• 36:32
  so far in training camp, and you get a sense of just how important it is that
• 36:37
  these five dudes are back together again.
• 36:40
  Brandan: Yeah, it, it's really exciting that the, the offensive
• 36:43
  line is back together going up against this defensive line.
• 36:46
  Gonna make them sharper as well.
• 36:49
  Uh, Josh DeHooman in chat saying, "The Hawks had interest
• 36:51
  in both Crosby and Clowney.
• 36:52
  Makes me wonder if Mike is wondering if the younger pass
• 36:55
  rushers need more time to develop.
• 36:57
  I'll be watching the young pass rushers on Saturday."
• 37:00
  Yeah, looking forward to, to hearing your report coming out of that, Josh.
• 37:03
  Yeah.
• 37:04
  I, I think we're gonna try and have you on the show.
• 37:06
  Uh, one news development with regard to Clowney, though.
• 37:09
  He is going back to Houston, so- Oh, okay … uh, I, I know there was
• 37:13
  some interest among Seahawks fans- Mm … that, uh, maybe an addition there.
• 37:17
  I, I feel like we're, we're set, guys.
• 37:19
  Like, Valor- Yeah … Jr.
• 37:21
  is out there, and we, we have a lot of depth.
• 37:24
  I, I f- I, I don't know if I see us signing a- anybody else unless there's
• 37:30
  some kind of injury that would require you to go out and, and make an addition.
• 37:36
  Clinton: I, I just feel the most NFL people are still so gaga over
• 37:40
  the idea that you have to have your 15-sack guy, not that Clowney
• 37:44
  is that or really ever was that.
• 37:46
  Uh, but he got to double digits with Mike, right?
• 37:48
  And had his best seasons.
• 37:50
  But people are still so centric on this idea that you have to have a
• 37:53
  Myles Garrett to win Super Bowls, but Myles Garrett's never won a Super Bowl.
• 37:56
  It just…
• 37:56
  And now he's on the Rams, and he's not gonna win one this
• 37:58
  year either, I don't think.
• 38:00
  But Brandon, to your point, like, we, we got our starting four, but
• 38:04
  then we got a good five, a good six, and there's dudes like a Jamie
• 38:08
  Sheriff who just gets accolades.
• 38:11
  Like, like, hey, he…
• 38:12
  Like, if he had, if there was a clearer path, he might be a pretty disruptive
• 38:16
  edge guy on other, again, other teams.
• 38:20
  So I'm actually…
• 38:21
  Look, I think Clowney's a pretty good player.
• 38:24
  In the NFL, this isn't gonna r- you put him in, it's like you know
• 38:27
  what you're getting with Clowney.
• 38:27
  He's solid.
• 38:28
  I get it.
• 38:29
  But I'm also okay with it.
• 38:30
  I'm also okay with the idea that our fives and our sixes are gonna get a bit
• 38:35
  more because we didn't bring in Clowney, and I'm confident in the depth there.
• 38:41
  I'd like to see those dudes who are year two, year three
• 38:43
  guys get a few more chances.
• 38:46
  If that comes at the, you know, uh, the, the deficit of not having Clowney,
• 38:50
  for me, Brandon, it's like, so be it.
• 38:51
  I'm okay.
• 38:52
  I'm fine.
• 38:53
  Brandan: Okay.
• 38:53
  So we've talked a- about the depth on the defensive line.
• 38:56
  We've talked about the, the offensive line depth as well, especially the continuity,
• 39:02
  and, uh, there's some intriguing battles, I think, at depth there too.
• 39:06
  But, uh, one place where I, I look at some of the practice reports, and I have some
• 39:11
  concerns about depth, it's at cornerback, because we have Devin Witherspoon, we
• 39:16
  have Josh Jobe, and then I see that, um, with Julian Love sidelined due to dealing
• 39:22
  with some minor injuries, it sounds like.
• 39:24
  But Nehemiah Pritchett leading the cornerback three battle, and if he's
• 39:30
  going to be taking the s- the similar number of snaps that Riq Woolen left
• 39:34
  behind, is, is that gonna be a concern?
• 39:37
  Is it gonna be a problem?
• 39:39
  Adam: Well, I'll ask you a quick question here, Brandon.
• 39:42
  Um, if Mike Macdonald has, uh, Pritchett as leading the third quarterback,
• 39:48
  uh, battle, uh, do you think he's probably right about that or wrong?
• 39:52
  Brandan: Well,
• 39:53
  Adam: I do-
• 39:53
  Brandan: Obvious- I, I have a lot of trust for Mike.
• 39:55
  Okay.
• 39:55
  I, I guess where I, I then try and slot it in my mind too, because especially Nick
• 40:00
  Emmanwori out, uh, with injury and I, I think that the expectation that he'll be
• 40:07
  b- back week one, but, uh, Mike doesn't wanna talk about the fact that he might
• 40:12
  be back on week one, because he just doesn't wanna give up that information.
• 40:16
  I, I do think that if Pritchett were somehow, it to be a problem, then I
• 40:23
  think based on what we're hearing out of camp, is that, you know, we probably
• 40:27
  see some, uh, some Bell in there maybe filling in, 'cause a- apparently
• 40:33
  De'Anthony Bell having a good camp.
• 40:34
  And so maybe you just see more Spoon outside along with Joe outside, and
• 40:38
  you have other guys in the middle kind of taking over, maybe, uh, Bug Clark.
• 40:42
  It, you start seeing him play a little bit more too and, uh, and
• 40:46
  taking on some additional roles.
• 40:48
  So, uh, they have a lot of depth, I think, within the secondary,
• 40:52
  just maybe not at the corner spot.
• 40:54
  Adam: Well, also too, we've been hearing out of camp that
• 40:56
  Dansby's been having a nice camp.
• 40:58
  Uh, you know, one of the p- and then one of the other later, like, undrafted
• 41:01
  guys or something like that, uh, has been playing fairly well also.
• 41:06
  And there's always that kinda surprise guy from the bottom of
• 41:10
  the roster, and you need a path to be that surprise guy, right?
• 41:14
  And that's one of the few positions on the team that there's a legitimate
• 41:18
  path to being an, uh, impact player.
• 41:21
  So, um, if you do have Pritchett concerns, that's fine.
• 41:24
  I mean, I, I thought he did okay when he played, uh, came in and
• 41:27
  played a little bit last year.
• 41:29
  And as you mentioned, you know, Bell playing Emmanwori's role,
• 41:32
  and then having the extra depth there with Okoda and Bug Clark.
• 41:35
  They'll be able to move them around a little bit, maybe
• 41:36
  do some three safety stuff.
• 41:38
  I think there's a lot of ways that a extremely creative coach in his, just
• 41:42
  scratching the surface of his prime, can figure out how to work around one
• 41:48
  semi-deficiency, if it even becomes that.
• 41:52
  Clinton: I, I…
• 41:53
  Look, I think m- from my…
• 41:55
  My take is, Brandon, I think you're laying out a fair point, right?
• 41:58
  Like, hey, we're talking about how deep this team is acro-
• 42:02
  pretty much across the board.
• 42:03
  It's a very deep roster.
• 42:04
  There's not many teams that roll out 53 like this, or the ready squad to 70.
• 42:09
  There's just not.
• 42:10
  They don't, they, they do not exist in the current form of the NFL.
• 42:13
  We're very lucky in that way.
• 42:14
  And I think you're right that that is by far not just the thinnest, but it's got
• 42:19
  the, it's got the chances of, like…
• 42:21
  It als- it's also corner, where, like, those dudes can get exposed in a game.
• 42:26
  Look back at the Tampa game last year.
• 42:28
  You know, the Tampa game, a couple, couple of dudes go down, when we had Wreck and
• 42:31
  others, and Baker, I mean, yes, Baker was as hot as could be at that time, MVP
• 42:37
  Baker at that point, Nabuka going crazy.
• 42:39
  But we lose a couple of dudes, and we were exposed on that day.
• 42:44
  We take a late lead, and they march right down the field and score again.
• 42:47
  It was just like a sieve, right?
• 42:49
  Um, so I feel you, because it's not only just the, hey, it, it is a little thinner
• 42:53
  there, but it's a position in the NFL where when you play good quarterbacks
• 42:57
  with, with at least pretty good offensive coordinators, or very good ones,
• 43:01
  they, they can take advantage of that.
• 43:03
  And compared to last year, in my estimation, I think we play a, a litany of
• 43:08
  better quarterbacks than we did last year.
• 43:10
  Just in general.
• 43:11
  It's a nu- it's a step or two, maybe a step and a half up of consistently
• 43:15
  better quarterbacks m- we're probably gonna face, barring injury.
• 43:19
  So Brandon, I'm a little bit more towards you on this one, that I'm a
• 43:22
  little bit like, "I don't love it."
• 43:24
  I don't love that piece yet.
• 43:26
  Adam: Yeah.
• 43:26
  Well, I also remember Brandon last year wringing his hands endlessly
• 43:30
  about the linebacker corps, and how there was no depth there.
• 43:32
  How'd that turn out, right?
• 43:33
  You make it
• 43:34
  Brandan: sound like that was just me.
• 43:36
  Adam: Well, it was amongst us anyways.
• 43:38
  Like, uh, you know, I…
• 43:39
  there may have been other 12s out there that had s- similar concerns.
• 43:42
  That's fine.
• 43:42
  Well, I, I'm
• 43:42
  Clinton: a Drake Thomas truther, guys, so you know it
• 43:45
  Brandan: wasn't me.
• 43:45
  Yeah, well, we
• 43:45
  Clinton: know it
• 43:46
  Adam: wasn't me.
• 43:46
  Yeah.
• 43:47
  Uh, so, I, I…
• 43:48
  look, I, I feel like having hugely concerned about- Good.
• 43:52
  Brandan: If it's on me then to worry about where we have the least depth, and
• 43:55
  linebacker was where it was last year, and it, it turned out we were awesome- Was it?
• 43:59
  at linebacker, then, uh-
• 44:00
  Adam: Yeah, okay.
• 44:01
  Yeah
• 44:01
  … Brandan: uh, then, uh, I, I hope that we're equally as awesome at corner
• 44:05
  then, and Nehemiah Pritchett comes in and is even better than Riq Woolen.
• 44:09
  Adam: Well, all we have to go off of his track record, right?
• 44:12
  And look at what Mike had done last year, even, like, bringing
• 44:16
  in Kendrick for a while, and having him play at a high level.
• 44:18
  Sure.
• 44:19
  I,
• 44:19
  Brandan: I, I just- And Ben Agony is another guy that they have- Yep … as
• 44:22
  a depth piece too- Mm-hmm … that they brought in and, and he…
• 44:25
  I, I guess I even trust a veteran.
• 44:27
  I, I…
• 44:27
  maybe it's just my bias toward Nehemiah Pritchett from what I've seen in the past
• 44:31
  and, and maybe he comes out and he's done a lot of work this off-season, and, and
• 44:34
  he has earned that number three role.
• 44:36
  It just, it, it's hard for me 'cause I need to see these things.
• 44:40
  Adam: Well, also too, like, what's the sample size for Pritchett on the field?
• 44:45
  Brandan: Not much.
• 44:45
  Adam: Yeah.
• 44:46
  Like, uh, zero concl- conclusions made.
• 44:48
  Like, that's the way I look at it.
• 44:50
  Not enough data.
• 44:50
  I, I've made some
• 44:51
  Brandan: conclusions based
• 44:53
  Clinton: on what I've seen.
• 44:54
  I, I hear it, yeah.
• 44:54
  Well, year one when he was on was bad, right?
• 44:55
  It was bad.
• 44:56
  Year two, when he was on, was markedly better, and I think Brandon's point is
• 45:01
  like, but was it, was it, hey, you're an NFL starter or a cornerback three,
• 45:06
  which gets a lot of, lot of play time in a Seahawks defense a lot of times
• 45:12
  Brandan: The snail in chat.
• 45:12
  I think we have the least depth at punter.
• 45:14
  Y- we, I mean, when you have an Aussie punter, you don't need depth.
• 45:17
  That's, uh, just, uh, you know, um, yeah.
• 45:20
  Adam: Yeah, Aussies don't get hurt.
• 45:22
  Exactly.
• 45:22
  They're indestructible.
• 45:23
  Clinton: Knock on all the wood with that one.
• 45:25
  One other piece of the punter, hey, when w- when we, you know, trash
• 45:29
  Madden for their stupid d- defensive take, they did put Dixon as, Dixon as
• 45:34
  the number one punter in the game of Madden, so hey, they got- they got- But
• 45:37
  Adam: that doesn't make up for it
• 45:38
  Clinton: I agree, but they got something right at least.
• 45:41
  I agree.
• 45:41
  They still gotta get punished for their stupid defense take.
• 45:44
  Adam: Yeah.
• 45:45
  Well- That's literally one of the worst takes I've heard this entire off-season
• 45:48
  Clinton: 10.
• 45:49
  Dude, they have, they have the Lions above them,
• 45:50
  Adam: and- They have the [bleep] Niners in front of us Like, wait, they lost
• 45:53
  their DC, like a good DC, brought in a delightfully mid DC to replace him, and
• 45:59
  we all know what happens to the Niners defense when they don't have Saleh.
• 46:02
  Mm.
• 46:02
  Like, it's not nearly as good.
• 46:04
  They're bringing back, uh, ancient Nick Bosa on his fifth
• 46:07
  ACL or 10th ACL, whatever it is.
• 46:10
  Fred Warner blew up his entire lower body, and he's gonna be
• 46:13
  Fred Warner again, for sure.
• 46:15
  Okay.
• 46:16
  You bring back Dre Greenlaw, who the Broncos couldn't wait to
• 46:19
  get rid of- Mm … and you have a lesser defensive coordinator.
• 46:22
  You're still relying on a bunch of young dudes, and they're better than
• 46:26
  this defense that literally was the engine that drove the Seahawks to
• 46:30
  winning their second championship.
• 46:33
  What [bleep] crack are they smoking in Madden?
• 46:37
  That's what I wanna know.
• 46:38
  Brandan: That's a, a very good question, and one of those questions
• 46:41
  that I think will go unanswered.
• 46:42
  Shane Turner Acoustic, checking in at 2:99 Australian.
• 46:46
  Morning legends, nice to wake up to you guys.
• 46:48
  Yeah, appreciate you waking up and tuning in to us, Shane.
• 46:51
  And, uh- Awesome … yeah, I- I've…
• 46:53
  If there's one thing that they could address on Hard Knocks, it would be, I, I
• 46:57
  wanna see all the defenders asked about…
• 47:00
  'Cause they already seem to have a chip on their shoulder about the stupid Rams.
• 47:03
  Uh, and if, if they can add to the chip on the shoulder but with Madden
• 47:07
  rankings, that probably matters to a lot of those guys even more.
• 47:11
  Clinton: I mean, they grew up a certain- th- like, these are, these
• 47:13
  are footballers who grew up playing football, who grew up playing Madden.
• 47:17
  It, I, I think it actually does matter.
• 47:19
  Like, they, they get, they get the fizz, as Adam would say, like,
• 47:23
  when they get their 99 rankings or they're ranked below somebody.
• 47:26
  So as a unit, put it on the, put it on the billboard, guys.
• 47:30
  I think it actually might be a little bit billboard material out there
• 47:33
  'cause they're competitors, man.
• 47:35
  It's just, it's just funny.
• 47:37
  You know, it's, it's…
• 47:38
  You know, when you see a little bit of disrespect once or twice and you
• 47:42
  brush it off, "Oh, whatever, who cares?
• 47:43
  We won, we won."
• 47:44
  But as the, as the season, the, the off-season just rolls on, and the next
• 47:49
  thing comes out, and the next thing comes out, and then you get, uh, who
• 47:52
  was the, who was the NFL analyst?
• 47:53
  Bucky, Bucky Brooks?
• 47:55
  Am I- Yeah … do I have that right?
• 47:56
  Adam: I love Bucky.
• 47:56
  Clinton: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:57
  Usually really good.
• 47:58
  How's he been, like seven and 10?
• 47:59
  And then other analysts, "Well, let's not forget Sam Darnold turns…"
• 48:03
  And I understand that.
• 48:04
  We all understand Sam turned the ball over a bit last year,
• 48:06
  or a good amount last year.
• 48:08
  But it's just this, it's like this consistent drumming, but Adam, I
• 48:13
  think you said it earlier, dude.
• 48:15
  It's like it's those we cover the entire NFL and we're,
• 48:20
  you know, like a, a T shaped.
• 48:22
  We don't go a, a, an inch further down than the, the soil.
• 48:25
  We don't go deep on these teams, so we have to have hot takes across 32 teams.
• 48:30
  So this is the hot take this year that Seattle really, really wasn't, really,
• 48:34
  really, really wasn't that good.
• 48:35
  Although they won 14 freaking games, went 3-0, had no turnovers in the playoffs,
• 48:40
  the only team to ever do that, and they beat the, the Rams twice down the stretch,
• 48:45
  once in the NFC championship game.
• 48:47
  But let's ignore all of that- Mm … and let's just go an inch down
• 48:51
  and say they really weren't that good.
• 48:53
  But meanwhile, Brandon, the Niners, they're so back because they're seemingly
• 48:58
  maybe healthy after major knee injuries.
• 49:01
  It's a, it's, it's getting to me, a- as you guys can see.
• 49:05
  It's like, it's…
• 49:05
  I- I'm usually kinda like, let this roll like water.
• 49:08
  This is kinda getting to me, but I'm, I'm kind of liking it.
• 49:11
  I don't know about you guys.
• 49:12
  I'm kinda like starting to absorb to be like, "F you."
• 49:15
  Like, I can't wait to show you again that we're gonna
• 49:18
  demoralize teams again, and I like
• 49:20
  Brandan: that.
• 49:20
  Yeah.
• 49:20
  We, we ignored list season for a while in the off season.
• 49:23
  But now- Woo
• 49:24
  now a list season in the pre-season, it's getting to us.
• 49:28
  Clinton: Yes.
• 49:28
  Yes, guys.
• 49:28
  Adam: I'm not gonna lie, I'm legit pissed.
• 49:31
  Like, I, I'm liter- I probably take this more personal than the
• 49:34
  Brandan: players do.
• 49:34
  Adam has never played a single snap of Madden, and he's the
• 49:36
  most- … upset about this.
• 49:38
  Adam: Uh- Untrue.
• 49:39
  Untrue.
• 49:39
  I played the Madden where Shaun Alexander was on the cover for, uh, a while.
• 49:43
  I, uh-
• 49:43
  Brandan: Yeah, 2006 Madden.
• 49:45
  That was 20 years ago, buddy.
• 49:47
  Adam: I…
• 49:47
  Look, I, I didn't say it was recent.
• 49:49
  You said not one snap, and that was slander, and I will not have it.
• 49:52
  Uh, but you know what's interesting, Clinton, is you're like, hey,
• 49:55
  these guys, these kind of general sportscasters and- Yeah … you
• 49:58
  know, go one inch down, right- Yeah
• 50:00
  and cover a 10,000 acre pond that's an inch deep.
• 50:03
  And it's like, well, okay, if that's the case, then why isn't- The
• 50:08
  narrative from those guys, "Seahawks won the Super Bowl, they're really
• 50:12
  good, they're the team to beat."
• 50:13
  Clinton: Good, good question.
• 50:14
  ' Adam: Cause that's, like, the inch-deep take, right?
• 50:16
  Like, the…
• 50:17
  If you're just gonna be like, "Ah, if I'm just covering the league,"
• 50:20
  and that sort of thing, like, it…
• 50:21
  that's the lowest hanging fruit.
• 50:23
  Yeah.
• 50:23
  Brandan: Yeah.
• 50:24
  They, they are just fine disrespecting us as Seahawks fans.
• 50:27
  They, they know that, uh, um, they, they do that all the time, so we're used to it.
• 50:32
  So they, they can have their hot takes that way.
• 50:34
  It, it makes it easier.
• 50:35
  It's easy.
• 50:35
  What's a
• 50:37
  Adam: micro transaction?
• 50:38
  Is that, like, half a player?
• 50:40
  You know, like seven- This is
• 50:40
  Brandan: how Madden makes their money.
• 50:42
  They, they put out a, a generic game every year.
• 50:44
  They don't make many upgrades, but they, they downgrade it by making
• 50:48
  you pay actual money to upgrade your players throughout the game.
• 50:53
  Okay.
• 50:53
  And, uh, a- and that's…
• 50:56
  And people do it, I think, somehow.
• 50:58
  Adam: Look, I…
• 50:58
  All I know is that in 20 years in…
• 51:01
  when the economy's completely busted and everything, the tombstone will
• 51:04
  read, "Here lies the US economy.
• 51:06
  Everybody was subscribed to death."
• 51:08
  Like, from all of our [bleep] subscriptions.
• 51:11
  And, like, here's another one.
• 51:12
  You got a micro transactions in Madden to, like, throw a virtual football?
• 51:16
  Hey- Like, what are we doing?
• 51:17
  Brandan: Don't, don't forget to like and subscribe to the show, uh, by
• 51:20
  the way, while we're on that topic.
• 51:22
  Uh, Witherfork in chat saying, "2006 Madden, what was that, a board game?"
• 51:26
  Adam: Like…
• 51:27
  It was actually chiseled out on stone.
• 51:29
  Like- … it was pretty good.
• 51:30
  Yeah.
• 51:32
  Brandan: Ryan911 saying, "It's almost like there's a conspiracy.
• 51:35
  Has anyone heard from Hawk Van Dyke?"
• 51:37
  I, you know, I've actually heard from Hawk Van Dyke.
• 51:38
  I'm gonna see him in a couple weeks when I'm over in Paris.
• 51:41
  But, yeah, we, we may need to get his take.
• 51:43
  I- I'll, I'll be l- live and in person.
• 51:46
  I'll have to get his take on if there's some kind of conspiracy going on
• 51:49
  right now with, uh, with the Seahawks.
• 51:51
  Rick Darcy in chat saying, "Better point differential than 2013.
• 51:54
  LOB, who is number three this century, two Hawks team with the
• 51:58
  best point differential ever.
• 51:59
  Hawks are awesome."
• 52:00
  Yeah, that was one of the things- Yeah … that surprised me with Warren Sharp and,
• 52:04
  and hi- because he looked at all of the, the actual analytics from last year,
• 52:09
  and he, you know, he's nerdy that way.
• 52:11
  Yeah.
• 52:12
  And it's one of the best, like, DVOA teams- Yes … in the history of the
• 52:16
  NFL, and yet he's, he's saying that we aren't gonna make the playoffs.
• 52:19
  And I, I d- that's, those are the ones that I really don't understand.
• 52:24
  Okay.
• 52:24
  For, for guys who are analyzing the league and, and just wanna
• 52:27
  have a take, that's one thing.
• 52:28
  But for the, the guys that get into the numbers, like, where,
• 52:31
  where do you get the, um…
• 52:34
  I- if you're basing it off of predictions, and the likelihood, and all these…
• 52:41
  Whatever they use- … how, how does that not show that we're gonna be
• 52:44
  back and equally as good this year?
• 52:46
  Clinton: Uh, the…
• 52:47
  Yeah.
• 52:48
  Look, I am not one to be like, "Oh, look, we're gonna go 15 and 2 this year, go 14
• 52:53
  and 3 again," 'cause that, that is very, very hard, and a lot can get in your
• 52:57
  way from that kind of a great season.
• 53:00
  But to, to predict that we're not gonna make the playoffs, like, a lot
• 53:05
  has to go really, really wrong for this team to not be a playoff team.
• 53:09
  And that's stuff I don't, I don't even wanna put into the
• 53:11
  ether type stuff, you know?
• 53:12
  It's like that kind of level of wrong for this team to not be a playoff team.
• 53:16
  It's just-
• 53:17
  Brandan: They have to move- It- … the substation from-
• 53:20
  Yeah … San Francisco up to Seattle.
• 53:22
  You know,
• 53:22
  Clinton: Flurry has to be a disaster.
• 53:23
  And…
• 53:24
  Yeah.
• 53:24
  You know, legitimately.
• 53:24
  He…
• 53:25
  Like, and we can't run the football.
• 53:27
  Like, if…
• 53:28
  And this is…
• 53:29
  I'm not gonna talk injuries.
• 53:30
  If we cannot run the football and Flurry's an absolute abject
• 53:33
  disaster, yes, we would be on the threshold of not making the playoffs.
• 53:38
  That's literally where this is, because if the defense is mainly healthy
• 53:43
  and they're just, they just do Mike Macdonald things, and Ian Warrior's
• 53:46
  healthy- I, it's, this team's going to win a, a, a, a, a number of games
• 53:53
  like that puts you in position to…
• 53:56
  They kind of…
• 53:58
  I don't know, guys.
• 53:58
  I'm not saying cruise into the playoffs, it's hard, but I hate that take.
• 54:01
  That take is maddening to me.
• 54:04
  It's just, what are you watching?
• 54:05
  Like, what, what stats?
• 54:07
  What pa- you know, what last year or two or three of evidence do you have that
• 54:13
  this team's not like at a playoff caliber?
• 54:16
  That's-
• 54:16
  Adam: Yeah.
• 54:17
  Clinton: That's wild … just, it's crazy.
• 54:18
  Adam: Well, and look too, y- you, you kinda laid it out right there.
• 54:21
  You look at a Mike Macdonald defense- Yeah … it, when he's ha- had them
• 54:25
  for more than half a season, right?
• 54:26
  Both his first half season with the Ravens and with the
• 54:29
  Seahawks, it took a minute, right?
• 54:31
  Yeah.
• 54:31
  Clinton: Yes.
• 54:31
  Adam: And then after that, what happened?
• 54:33
  Excellence.
• 54:34
  Clinton: They were freaking awesome,
• 54:34
  Adam: right?
• 54:34
  Like, excellence, right?
• 54:36
  So I feel like these Warren Sharp types look at this, and they have
• 54:41
  this unbelievable over-evaluation of Boye Mafe, you know- Yes
• 54:49
  Coby Bryant, and Riq Woolen.
• 54:51
  They act like we lost Leo Williams, Spoon, and, uh, Ernest Jones.
• 54:56
  Clinton: Ernest Jones.
• 54:56
  Yeah.
• 54:56
  Yeah.
• 54:56
  Adam: Yeah.
• 54:57
  And it's like, um, no.
• 54:59
  And not only that, but like, those guys, like- I like, I, I like all of
• 55:05
  those humans as human beings, right?
• 55:07
  So this, I'm not trying to disparage them in this way.
• 55:09
  They're Super Bowl champions, they brought another Super Bowl to my life.
• 55:12
  I, I, I don't wanna, like, put it in terms that sounds like I'm ungrateful.
• 55:16
  But Boye Mafe's, uh, unbelievably overrated by a
• 55:20
  lot of the, uh, national media.
• 55:22
  They act like he was our primary twitchy edge defender and there was no other
• 55:27
  pressure that came from anybody else.
• 55:28
  They act like Coby Bryant is the second coming of Ronnie Lott.
• 55:31
  Mm.
• 55:31
  And they act like Riq Woolen's a lockdown corner that doesn't have gigantic
• 55:36
  mental farts- … like every other game.
• 55:38
  Like, it's, it's crazy to think about.
• 55:40
  So-
• 55:40
  Brandan: That allowed the Rams to get back into it in the championship game.
• 55:43
  Yes.
• 55:44
  Adam: Right.
• 55:44
  Right.
• 55:45
  So, like, if those are the three p- uh, pieces that you're
• 55:48
  replacing, I feel like 99.8%
• 55:52
  confident Mike Macdonald can figure that out and make it happen, right?
• 55:56
  Mm-hmm.
• 55:56
  And have another excellent squad.
• 55:58
  And then the other question that they'll bring up is the Fleury
• 56:01
  question, and that's fair.
• 56:02
  Fleury is a question mark, but how big of a question mark?
• 56:06
  Like, if we're playing the what's more likely game, I feel like the floor,
• 56:11
  the most likely floor for Brian Fleury is a delightfully average offense.
• 56:17
  And it's, and the reason it's different than, say, somebody like Ryan Grubb,
• 56:21
  is Ryan Grubb had zero NFL experience.
• 56:23
  Ryan Grubb didn't know how to run the football.
• 56:24
  Ryan Grubb wanted to spread you out.
• 56:26
  Ryan Grubb was just a college moron.
• 56:28
  And, like, that's not who Brian Fleury is.
• 56:31
  Yeah.
• 56:31
  A lot of people had a ton of questions about Clint Kubiak when he came in,
• 56:35
  and he only had basically a season and a half of play calling experience.
• 56:39
  It's not like he had b- like, been around the league for 15 years.
• 56:43
  Oh, yeah.
• 56:43
  And he was so damn good, we won the Super Bowl, and now he's
• 56:46
  the head coach of the Raiders.
• 56:47
  Like, I think the floor for Brian Fleury is not a disaster.
• 56:51
  Right.
• 56:51
  Like you said, that would have to be what would happen, right?
• 56:53
  Clinton: I think so.
• 56:53
  Yeah.
• 56:54
  Adam: I don't, I think that's so improbable, it's hard to
• 56:57
  even wrap your head around.
• 56:58
  Now, what's the probability that he'll be excellent?
• 57:01
  That's unknown.
• 57:02
  Mm-hmm.
• 57:02
  That's where the question mark is, and that's okay.
• 57:04
  It's okay to have questions about it.
• 57:06
  But to act like the, there's a viable path to him being a disaster, w- as
• 57:11
  Warren Sharp does or some of these other guys that are kind of baking
• 57:14
  in this regression, is foolhardy.
• 57:17
  Mm.
• 57:17
  Like, I, I just don't understand where it comes from
• 57:20
  Brandan: Yeah.
• 57:20
  And maybe it comes from that idea of, you know, Clint improved so much over Ryan
• 57:26
  Grubb that it's just the, it, it's the easy analysis of well, if he improved
• 57:31
  that much from Ryan Grubb, it could regress then back to where it was before.
• 57:35
  And, uh, and, and that's, that's where that floor comes from,
• 57:39
  which is not a legitimate floor.
• 57:41
  Clinton: Yeah.
• 57:41
  It, it's all, it- that's exactly right.
• 57:43
  I think there, there's a fal- that's, I think, I think we got
• 57:45
  around it real nicely, guys.
• 57:46
  I think the narrative is this- We solved
• 57:49
  Brandan: it.
• 57:49
  Good
• 57:49
  Clinton: job … this, there's a false floor that actually,
• 57:52
  that's not actually the floor.
• 57:54
  And I think that's the laziness and the, the, the narrative that's out there.
• 57:58
  But I'm excited to prove them all wrong.
• 58:00
  It, it's gonna be very fun, you know, to, to prove them wrong again.
• 58:04
  And, um, you know, I, I, I just think, I'm very, I'm highly confident this
• 58:08
  year that, um, our floor I think is a very solid, very solid playoff team.
• 58:15
  That's the floor, and I think that's a really good place to be.
• 58:18
  I think, you know, I think every single team in the NFL
• 58:21
  would be like, "That's cool.
• 58:22
  Let's, I sign for that ri- you know, right now."
• 58:23
  I think that's our floor, guys.
• 58:24
  Oh, yeah.
• 58:25
  Adam: Yeah.
• 58:25
  I mean, of the NFC teams, you'd have to say we're a top two to three team
• 58:31
  in terms of- Yes … uh, what position you are in going into this season.
• 58:36
  Clinton: Yeah.
• 58:36
  Adam: And it's, uh, it's pretty crazy.
• 58:39
  It's pretty crazy that a lot of people write it off as if it's,
• 58:43
  uh, like- Since the Rams signed Myles Garrett, then Seahawks
• 58:48
  regressed by seven games this year.
• 58:50
  Clinton: Right.
• 58:50
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:50
  Like,
• 58:51
  Adam: what…
• 58:51
  I, I just, I, it just doesn't make any sense.
• 58:53
  Clinton: Complete zero sum nonsense.
• 58:55
  Like, they signed him, therefore you got this much worse.
• 58:58
  That's not how it works.
• 58:59
  That's just not how it works.
• 59:00
  Like- Yeah … we could also still get better.
• 59:03
  Like, maybe the…
• 59:03
  Sure, Myles Garrett, hey, he's a hell of a player.
• 59:06
  We're not stupid.
• 59:07
  We get it.
• 59:08
  But that doesn't mean, like, he, he wasn't on our team, guys.
• 59:11
  We didn't lose Myles Garrett, you know?
• 59:13
  Right.
• 59:14
  We lost Mafe, but we bring in Fowler.
• 59:16
  Like, you mentioned Mafe earlier, and you mentioned Kobe, you mentioned Reek,
• 59:19
  and in my head I went, "That's $55 million a year for those three dudes
• 59:23
  right now," and I think we did fine.
• 59:26
  I think we did maybe even better than fine to just replenish those
• 59:30
  guys because, like you had said, it's not Leo, it's not Byron, it's
• 59:34
  not Ernest, it's not Julian Love.
• 59:37
  Nice players, but not core.
• 59:40
  And- No … and, you know, the Rams getting Myles Garrett does
• 59:44
  not make the Seahawks worse.
• 59:46
  If anything, we're gonna be more fired up than ever and, you know, like
• 59:50
  you guys had covered, Charles Cross might just be taking care of Miles
• 59:54
  Garrett, and that'll be sweet to watch.
• 59:55
  Adam: Yeah, yeah.
• 59:56
  And again, if you guys didn't see that video that we did, uh, looking
• 1:00:00
  back at Charles Cross, uh, when we played the Browns the last time, I
• 1:00:04
  think it was three years ago now, two years ago now, um, turns out
• 1:00:08
  Charles Cross can block Myles Garrett.
• 1:00:10
  Like, uh, uh, 'cause he's an elite tackle.
• 1:00:12
  And, uh, he's only gotten better since then, but, you know, whatever.
• 1:00:15
  Facts schmax.
• 1:00:16
  So, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, Clinton, I'd wanna ask
• 1:00:19
  you, do you feel like, do you feel like it's more likely that we go one and two
• 1:00:28
  against the Rams, or we sweep the Rams?
• 1:00:31
  Because we were a field goal away from sweeping the Rams last year.
• 1:00:35
  Clinton: Okay.
• 1:00:35
  So I like this because one and two, you know, or, or three and O, um, we're, we're
• 1:00:41
  saying we're playing them in the playoffs.
• 1:00:42
  Like, that's, that's the, that's the math, right?
• 1:00:45
  It's like we're playing them- Yeah … in the playoffs at that point.
• 1:00:46
  So I'm, I'm, so I'm sure as [bleep] not pick- picking one and two.
• 1:00:50
  Like, I'm just not gonna do that.
• 1:00:51
  Um, I don't think we'll go O and two.
• 1:00:53
  One and
• 1:00:53
  Brandan: two is just fine as long as we
• 1:00:55
  Clinton: win the first two.
• 1:00:55
  As long as we win the right one.
• 1:00:56
  No, I, I hear you.
• 1:00:57
  Uh-
• 1:01:02
  What's more likely?
• 1:01:04
  Man-
• 1:01:05
  Brandan: Go, go Cope
• 1:01:05
  Adam: approach- Well, Cope, not the b- … and
• 1:01:05
  Brandan: Chet is, is
• 1:01:08
  Clinton: taking- Yeah, that's the most likely … option number
• 1:01:09
  three and going two and one.
• 1:01:09
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:09
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:09
  Yeah, right, right, yeah.
• 1:01:09
  Yeah.
• 1:01:09
  Yeah.
• 1:01:10
  I li- I like Cope approaches.
• 1:01:11
  That's probably what it is.
• 1:01:13
  Um, look, it was a 60-yard field goal where if we got a couple more yards
• 1:01:17
  with Myers, we, we win that game too, and we stunk that game on offense.
• 1:01:21
  I was-
• 1:01:22
  Adam: Eh.
• 1:01:22
  Clinton: That was Darnold's turd burger, right?
• 1:01:24
  So, uh, you know what?
• 1:01:26
  Three and O.
• 1:01:27
  More, it's more likely we sweep them, Adam.
• 1:01:29
  It's more likely we sweep them.
• 1:01:32
  Adam: I generally believe it is too.
• 1:01:33
  I mean, when you think about how Sam Darnold progressed against Shula-
• 1:01:38
  Clinton: Yes
• 1:01:39
  … Adam: throughout the season.
• 1:01:40
  And, like, it's, it's, the evidence is right in front of you.
• 1:01:43
  It's on film.
• 1:01:44
  All you have to do is look.
• 1:01:46
  Like, Darnold ascended last year against his number one bugaboo
• 1:01:50
  in- Mm-hmm … the Rams defense.
• 1:01:52
  Well, that tells you a lot right there.
• 1:01:54
  Uh, also too, Albert Breer I think has done an excellent job of
• 1:01:58
  trying to remind everybody, yeah, throughout the nation that it's
• 1:02:02
  not like this is an old ass team.
• 1:02:04
  Like, a lot- Mm … of the stars on this team are still ascending.
• 1:02:08
  I mean, that's why we had a little conversation about
• 1:02:10
  Byron Murphy just a minute ago.
• 1:02:12
  Do you think Spoons hit his ceiling?
• 1:02:15
  I don't know.
• 1:02:15
  I don't think so.
• 1:02:16
  Do you think even Worries has hit his ceiling?
• 1:02:19
  No.
• 1:02:19
  No.
• 1:02:20
  I don't even believe Leo Williams has hit his ceiling.
• 1:02:23
  Clinton: Well, that, that's, that's a take.
• 1:02:24
  I like that, Brandon.
• 1:02:25
  Yeah.
• 1:02:26
  I like, you know, a little Benjamin Button for, uh, for Leo potentially there,
• 1:02:29
  Brandan: Brandon.
• 1:02:29
  Clinton: Yeah,
• 1:02:29
  Brandan: that, that would be great if he hasn't hit his ceiling.
• 1:02:31
  Yeah.
• 1:02:31
  Adam: Well, no.
• 1:02:31
  So the…
• 1:02:32
  Well, here would be the argument.
• 1:02:33
  Uh, so as far as Leo Williams, do you, have you seen any
• 1:02:37
  physical fall off in his play?
• 1:02:38
  No.
• 1:02:39
  Physical.
• 1:02:39
  Like, just phys- No … like- No.
• 1:02:40
  No.
• 1:02:41
  No.
• 1:02:41
  No.
• 1:02:42
  And so what makes you better as a player when you've reached
• 1:02:45
  your peak physical ability?
• 1:02:47
  The mentals.
• 1:02:48
  Brandan: Right.
• 1:02:48
  Adam: And he's a smart dude, he's engaged, he talks about, uh, in his interview
• 1:02:53
  the other day, uh, his father-in-law is literally Ronnie Lott, and he's like,
• 1:02:57
  "Well, what, what do I, what do I do?"
• 1:02:59
  You know, "What's the best piece of advice?"
• 1:03:01
  He asked, um, uh, about training camp years ago about how to approach
• 1:03:06
  it, and Ronnie Lott said, "Treat every year as if you're a rookie."
• 1:03:09
  Clinton: Mm.
• 1:03:09
  Adam: And he's like, "So that's what I'm doing.
• 1:03:11
  I'm here to learn, I'm here to get better and all that."
• 1:03:13
  Like, there is a world in which Leo Williams does get better this next year.
• 1:03:18
  Yeah.
• 1:03:18
  Like, that's not out of the realm of possibility at all.
• 1:03:21
  Clinton: Well-
• 1:03:22
  Brandan: I, I'm here for it
• 1:03:23
  … Clinton: yeah, I mean, Brandon, I lo- I love Adam's what's
• 1:03:25
  more likely game, right?
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  Let's play this for a second.
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  Leo has his best year as an NFLer, which he's had some All-Pro years, but he
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  has his best year, or he has a serious, again, barring injury, a serious fall
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  off, or he, he pumps out his best year.
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  Which one's more likely?
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  Brandan: That he has his worst year or his best year?
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  Clinton: No, not his worst year.
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  Oh.
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  Like, he has a serious fall off.
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  Oh, oh.
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  Like, he starts to have like, oh, he's getting old, and you can see it now.
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  Brandan: Oh, yeah.
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  He, he's not having a fall off.
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  Yeah.
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  Clinton: Right.
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  Brandan: That's, it's just, that's, uh, very unlikely to happen, so.
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  Clinton: Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Brandan: Um, yeah, I, I think it is more likely that he's good,
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  and, uh, I'm here, I'm here for it.
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  Lemonhawk1990 in with a $5 Super Chat.
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  You didn't know Garrett and Donald each games- Yeah.
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  … just with them being on the field, suddenly only 14 games exist, and the
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  other three games are auto wins for LA.
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  Yeah.
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  Clinton: Yeah.
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  That's how they wanna, that's how they wanna treat it, the NFL, right?
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  So it's, uh…
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  Yeah, I just, I…
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  Guys, I'm just getting more…
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  I mean, the Niners are funny, and, and, and good, they'll get
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  healthy, but they're still funny.
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  You know, we still kick the crap out of them, um, when it mattered,
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  when it mattered most twice.
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  And- And all the love is going to the Rams.
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  Like, this is gonna be fun.
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  This is gonna be so much fun to be like, just upset it again.
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  Be like, "Oh, sorry NFL, you don't get the Rams at SoFi for
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  the Super Bowl on Valentine's Day.
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  Sorry."
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  Brandan: Well, we are looking for a very merry Christmas as we get to
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  take on the Rams for the first time.
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  We've got that game circled on our calendar even though it's,
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  it's, uh, months and months away.
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  But, uh, I, I'm looking for- forward to everything that happens in between
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  as we i- maybe get to that game.
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  And, uh, Adam, it doesn't even matter because as, uh- Mm … as
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  folks are gonna hear, we're, they're gonna hear our preview of the LA
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  Rams coming up in episode 504.
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  Look for that probably tomorrow night.
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  And, uh, we're gonna be talking Rams, Seahawks, and well, mostly Rams,
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  because it's our Know Your Rival series.
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  And, uh, anything you wanna say to preview that before we get on outta here, Adam?
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  Adam: Yeah, I think there's a lot of interesting discussions to be
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  had, because I know we're all sick of listening to people talk about
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  the Rams, and that's because they all just give Sean McVay a blowjob.
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  Like, where like, every time they talk about the, the Rams at this point.
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  Um, we took a different approach, uh, because we're 12s.
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  And I actually had a great job…
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  I'm glad that got you, Clinton.
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  Uh, really, uh, I think we did an excellent job of bringing a
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  counterpoint argument to this, uh, off-season, on-paper Super Bowl
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  championship anointment that has been proclaimed for the Los Angeles Rams.
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  So, um, it, uh, I think is worth listening to.
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  Uh, I had fun doing it.
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  Brandon had some dread going into it, but I think I turned you around by
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  Brandan: the end.
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  I just, I, I was, uh, I've had enough Rams talk for the off-season, so I, I'm
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  glad we got to close the book on them for at least the next four months or so.
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  But-
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  Adam: You know what's gonna be awesome?
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  Is by the end of this season when we close the book on this era of
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  Rams football- Yes … forever.
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  Like- There you
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  Brandan: go.
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  Yeah, we've de- Yeah … we've done it with the Niners, now
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  we gotta do it with the Rams
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  Adam: 100%.
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  Brandan: Yeah.
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  Yep.
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  Josh DeHooman, uh, coming in with one final super chat, 199, "Agree with Adam.
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  Fleury at worst, top 15.
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  Best, top 10."
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  Uh, best, I mean top three.
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  We're gonna, we're gonna see that from him.
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  So- … looking forward to that.
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  A big thanks to everyone who joined us.
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  The chat was on fire tonight.
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  Yes.
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  So, uh- Yeah … really appreciate everybody who tuned in live.
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  Lemonhawk1990, a member for 15 months.
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  Got Zerohawk in with $10.
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  Ryan911.
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  We had the Snail gifting memberships as well.
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  Lemonhawk came back in.
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  We saw Shane Turner Acoustic- Nice … and, uh, Josh DeHooman.
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  So a big thanks.
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  And, uh, man oh man, it's, it's gonna be a fun pre-season.
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  And yeah, we'll, we'll probably be back live maybe Tuesday night after
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  we watch some Hard Knocks maybe, guys?
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  Ooh.
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  Clinton: I- what time…
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  Yeah, I'm in.
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  Sure.
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  What time's the show though?
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  Like
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  Brandan: 8:00, 9:00?
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  I don't know.
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  You're, you're probably gonna have to take a nap to, to be done by then.
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  Clinton: Well, there is coffee.
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  I like coffee.
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  Adam: There you go, there you go.
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  Well, uh, yeah, I'll be in.
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  It'll be my first time ever watching an episode of Hard Knocks.
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  So, uh- Probably for
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  Brandan: a lot
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  Adam: of us … yeah.
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  Clinton: Yeah.
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  So live
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  Adam: reaction- I don't know
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  … Clinton: to Hard Knocks.
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  Let's book it.
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  Adam: Yeah.
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  Let's
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  Clinton: do it.
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  Adam: People seem to be excited about it.
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  Clinton: It'll be fun.
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  It'll be fun.
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  It's a reason to get together and talk Seahawks, and it
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  is the time of year, guys.
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  It is August 1st or 2nd, I'm not sure.
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  I don't know.
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  It doesn't really matter.
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  It's August, so that means we have football right here,
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  right with us around the bend.
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  I'm excited, boys.
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  This is gonna be one heck of a…
• 1:07:54
  This next 30-day sprint to get ready, oh, man, I am now, I'm fully in.
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  I'm just like, let's go.
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  I'm ready to rock.
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  I'm just in.
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  Let's- Is it?
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  … Adam: go.
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  Let's go.
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  And I think with
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  Brandan: that-
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  Adam: There's only one thing left to say … go Hawks.
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  Go Hawks.