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Beyond the Spirits with Ghost Sisters (part 1) · Trapped Souls Podcast

0:00
SPEAKER_00: Oh, welcome to Beyond the Spirits.
0:02
SPEAKER_00: I'm here with Ghost Ghost Sisters, but Ghost Sister tonight, maybe.
0:08
SPEAKER_00: Her sister, Chastity, and Bobby Joe cannot make it on tonight.
0:11
SPEAKER_00: All right, Mandy, so Ghost Sisters, how long has it been going?
0:17
SPEAKER_04: Uh we well, we're in our ninth year.
0:21
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, nine years, basically.
0:24
SPEAKER_00: Nine years.
0:25
SPEAKER_00: Um, I think that's like the longest, probably group-wise, I've seen in a long time.
0:32
SPEAKER_00: Mandy, how did you get into this?
0:33
SPEAKER_00: I know your your abilities, obviously, when you're young.
0:38
SPEAKER_04: Um, well, that's what started it for me.
0:41
SPEAKER_04: Um, was ever since I was young, I had been experiencing um weird, supernatural things going on around me.
0:50
SPEAKER_04: And I've always been intrigued with um, you know, hearing things about ghosts when I was younger.
0:56
SPEAKER_04: Uh, I would hear my my grandmother talk about things.
1:00
SPEAKER_04: I've heard my aunts talk about it.
1:02
SPEAKER_04: Um, I heard my mother a few times, yeah, a couple things she had mentioned.
1:08
SPEAKER_04: So I was always intrigued, and just you know, and plus all the things that was happening to me.
1:15
SPEAKER_04: Um, I was scared.
1:17
SPEAKER_04: I used to be scared, used to be scared to death of it.
1:20
SPEAKER_04: I couldn't understand why I was experiencing everything, and um it was it was just overwhelming.
1:27
SPEAKER_04: My whole life dealing with it was overwhelming, and eventually, I don't know, it was my daughter.
1:35
SPEAKER_04: Um, my youngest daughter was seeing things when she was like 12.
1:40
SPEAKER_04: And actually in this house right here, it all kicked in for her here.
1:46
SPEAKER_04: And you know, by that time, I wasn't a paranormal investigator, but I was a uh medium because I've been doing the mediumship for 10 years.
1:55
SPEAKER_04: I started that before I started my team.
1:57
SPEAKER_04: Okay, and but I needed to know how to help my my daughter, so I got a reading from a guy in Ireland, and you know, he's the one that kind of set off my my uh me doing mediumship readings for people around the world.
2:13
SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, he told me he said I was a natural medium and I can help you help your daughter.
2:19
SPEAKER_04: So he mentored me for a whole year, you know, and I was trying to help my daughter out with what she was experiencing, and and then it just kind of went from there.
2:30
SPEAKER_04: I one day I seen on social media the um Mansfield Prison Reformatory, and back in 2006 and 2007, I wanted to go there, and back then you had to fill out an application 50 bucks to wait just to get in.
2:49
SPEAKER_04: And so I never did make it.
2:51
SPEAKER_04: I always wanted to, and you know, I worked in law enforcement for eight years, so you know, I was working on law enforcement when we first went to the Mansfield prison, and I actually captured something.
3:04
SPEAKER_04: Um, the guard Frank walking down in solitary.
3:07
SPEAKER_04: Uh, my sister Chassity was with me.
3:10
SPEAKER_04: Now, like I said, we weren't investigators at that time, so I had no clue what I was doing.
3:15
SPEAKER_04: It was all new to me.
3:16
SPEAKER_04: I was like, oh my gosh.
3:18
SPEAKER_04: And I just couldn't believe we captured that, but we did.
3:21
SPEAKER_04: Um, but it was a week after that.
3:23
SPEAKER_04: I I was like, I knew I was supposed to be doing that.
3:25
SPEAKER_04: It just felt like this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
3:28
SPEAKER_04: And one day I was at work and I was like on break with some of my uh some of the officers, and I was like, hey, thinking about starting up a team.
3:37
SPEAKER_04: So it just went from there.
3:38
SPEAKER_04: I said, I'm gonna start up a team.
3:40
SPEAKER_04: And next thing I know, I'm calling up my sister.
3:43
SPEAKER_04: I said, Hey, I'm starting up a team and you're joining me.
3:46
SPEAKER_04: And she was like, What?
3:48
SPEAKER_04: I said, Yeah, you're joining me.
3:50
SPEAKER_04: And she honestly, when we first uh when I first got the place, um, the tickets to go to the Mansfield prison, I was going alone at first.
3:59
SPEAKER_04: And then I was like, Oh no, I gotta find someone to go with me.
4:02
SPEAKER_04: You know, I didn't know who would go.
4:04
SPEAKER_04: So I told my sister, get you a ticket, you're going with me.
4:07
SPEAKER_04: I'm not going alone.
4:08
SPEAKER_04: She didn't even know people really did that type of thing.
4:11
SPEAKER_04: She thought, what?
4:13
SPEAKER_04: No way, people do this.
4:14
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, Yeah.
4:17
SPEAKER_04: So it just went from there, and she's been with me ever since.
4:20
SPEAKER_04: So she's been with me the longest on the team.
4:24
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so like both your sisters, how do they feel?
4:27
SPEAKER_00: Do they have abilities or um Bobby Joe?
4:32
SPEAKER_04: She's the skeptic on the team.
4:34
SPEAKER_04: I I don't think she's like fully a skeptic, she's kind of half and half.
4:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, um she definitely does.
4:42
SPEAKER_04: She has seen them, she's like a real strong empath.
4:46
SPEAKER_04: Um, Chastity, she's sensitive, but she just can't focus to tune in the spirit.
4:51
SPEAKER_04: She's just she's just not able to concentrate.
4:55
SPEAKER_04: But Bobby Joe, she has seen ghosts, she has heard them, and she still questions, you know, yeah, whether or not she tries to explain it away.
5:08
SPEAKER_00: You talked about like your aunts and your mom.
5:11
SPEAKER_00: And I've this is coming up in a lot lately, like family members having abilities.
5:16
SPEAKER_00: Do you think it's like passed down?
5:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, I really wish my mother would have told me growing up that she used to she would have premonitions and that she has seen ghosts.
5:29
SPEAKER_04: I didn't know this until I was an adult, like later, once I started complaining about you know stuff I was experiencing, and then my mom would say, Oh, you know, I've seen the ghost in the house.
5:42
SPEAKER_04: I seen so and so.
5:44
SPEAKER_04: I was like, you know, you could have you could have told me this.
5:48
SPEAKER_04: I thought I was going crazy when I was younger, seeing and hearing all these things, you know.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: Well, welcome, chassis, to the show.
5:56
SPEAKER_04: Hi.
5:58
SPEAKER_04: How are you?
5:59
SPEAKER_00: Good, how are you doing?
6:01
SPEAKER_04: Good.
6:02
SPEAKER_04: Sorry, I'm late.
6:03
SPEAKER_00: No, it's okay, definitely okay.
6:05
SPEAKER_00: Jump in anytime.
6:07
SPEAKER_04: A little bit.
6:10
SPEAKER_04: You're good now.
6:14
SPEAKER_00: So which one?
6:16
SPEAKER_00: Chassis the skeptic then?
6:18
SPEAKER_04: No, Bobby Joe.
6:19
SPEAKER_00: I'm terrible with names, I'm sorry.
6:21
SPEAKER_04: It's it's okay.
6:23
SPEAKER_00: We'll put a skeptic next to Bobby Joe.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: So, Chassis, how do you fit into the Ghost Sisters?
6:29
SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm guessing Mandy kind of brought you in because she's the one who kind of started it.
6:36
SPEAKER_03: Um I'm the older older sister.
6:40
SPEAKER_03: Um, I'm the one that was with her when she started it when we first went to the prison.
6:46
SPEAKER_03: She talked me into going to the prison with her because I never knew such a thing as ghost hunting ever existed.
6:52
SPEAKER_03: And she uh called me and said, I got a ticket and you want to go to ghost hunt, go hust ghost hunt with me.
6:59
SPEAKER_03: And I went with her.
7:00
SPEAKER_03: I never knew what it was, and then until she got me on it, and then we went there and it was kind of a little spooky walking into webs and stuff.
7:11
SPEAKER_03: But uh after we got done there, uh she called me next day and said, I'm starting a team and you're on it.
7:20
SPEAKER_00: How'd you feel about that?
7:22
SPEAKER_03: I was like, Okay, whatever.
7:27
SPEAKER_03: I didn't think it was gonna turn into what it turned into, but I um turned out it turned out better than I thought it was gonna be.
7:37
SPEAKER_03: I never thought, you know.
7:39
SPEAKER_00: All right, so I'm gonna little thing about ghost sisters.
7:43
SPEAKER_00: I got into like the social media about a year ago, and you guys always popped up.
7:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you guys are like my first live everything, and I've been hooked ever since on the ghost sisters, and I always tell people like you want to get followers, you wanna see how it's done, watch the ghost sisters live.
8:07
SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you haven't seen them live, I don't know what you're doing because you guys are on five times a week.
8:14
SPEAKER_04: All the time is I I go even when when my sisters don't join me, I'm out there.
8:22
SPEAKER_00: And that's the big thing.
8:23
SPEAKER_00: Like, like Nacho knows I hate when people ask for followers, that's all there is on their Facebook page.
8:28
SPEAKER_00: Followers, followers, followers.
8:29
SPEAKER_00: I use you as an example.
8:31
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, like if you want followers, go put content out there, get out.
8:36
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're paranormal, that's what people want to see.
8:39
SPEAKER_00: That's like 144,000 followers.
8:44
SPEAKER_01: That's amazing, yeah.
8:47
SPEAKER_01: It's just like by getting out there.
8:49
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's it's unbelievable 3,800 today, and I'm like, I don't even know how that's happened.
8:54
SPEAKER_01: Because I looked over and like 144,000.
8:58
SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
8:59
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, it's it's jumping big time.
9:03
SPEAKER_00: And you get to go out with a lot of I guess cool people, and they probably say the same thing about going out with you, but like Sean Austin and all of them.
9:12
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you guys uh do a very good job, and you guys do a lot of places that no one's ever heard of.
9:19
SPEAKER_04: Yes, yeah.
9:20
SPEAKER_04: I I do get contacted going into places that no one's been into.
9:24
SPEAKER_04: I I love I like being the first one in there because the reason I like it is because you get to be the first one to communicate with you know the ghost.
9:33
SPEAKER_04: And there it's like you get a lot of action when you're when you first go in there.
9:38
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's like they're excited to talk to you.
9:40
SPEAKER_04: So you I just think you get a lot more.
9:42
SPEAKER_00: I think you being a medium and stuff helps because a lot of times if we go into a new place, it's quiet because maybe they're shy or don't know you, but with them being able to speak to you, do you think that helps a lot then?
9:56
SPEAKER_00: The communication?
9:58
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I do.
9:59
SPEAKER_04: I think it does, I think it draws them towards us, you know.
10:03
SPEAKER_04: Um definitely.
10:05
SPEAKER_04: Uh, we actually just investigated a new location in Ohio in Chassity.
10:12
SPEAKER_04: We we actually were filming first after we got done filming because we're filming for our episodes on YouTube.
10:18
SPEAKER_04: And after we were done, um, you know, we we went live and was investigating, and we got some really good stuff.
10:26
SPEAKER_04: And again, this we were the first ones to actually get in there.
10:29
SPEAKER_04: Well, there was another team from Columbus, Ohio, but the guy said they only came in.
10:34
SPEAKER_04: They asked if they could come in for you know for an hour.
10:36
SPEAKER_04: He said they they were there for an hour and they left and they've never seen them again.
10:40
SPEAKER_04: So I don't know if you can really consider an hour, you know, really investigating, but they were actually technically the first ones.
10:48
SPEAKER_04: But he said they left them with more answers than anything.
10:52
SPEAKER_04: So so when we went there, the spirits were really amped up, they were really excited.
10:57
SPEAKER_04: We got all kinds of communication.
10:59
SPEAKER_04: Um, we spent the night there.
11:01
SPEAKER_04: Chastity's um chose the most haunted room, I think it was, um, and the whole place to sleep.
11:10
SPEAKER_04: Tell them what I did, Chastity.
11:15
SPEAKER_03: She uh jumped up because she said that some some ghost hit her, shake hit her, shake the bed, but I didn't feel the shake when she felt it.
11:24
SPEAKER_04: Yes, yeah, yeah.
11:26
SPEAKER_04: So what happened was we went we weren't even asleep that long.
11:30
SPEAKER_04: And I was laying there trying to go to sleep, and I was trying to get comfortable, and I had my eyes closed, and I felt something, it felt like something either pushed the bed on my side or it kicked it, and I felt it.
11:44
SPEAKER_04: It was it was it was enough for me to jump.
11:47
SPEAKER_04: I jumped right over on my sister.
11:48
SPEAKER_04: I said, Hey, something just hit the bed, and she's like, You ready to pack up and leave now?
11:55
SPEAKER_04: I said, No, we're staying here, and I said, You chose a haunted bedroom, man.
12:01
SPEAKER_00: Is there ever a time you like want to leave a place?
12:06
SPEAKER_03: No, not Mandy, no, uh Chassie.
12:10
SPEAKER_00: Is there ever a time you want to leave a place?
12:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
12:14
SPEAKER_01: What what makes you want to leave?
12:16
SPEAKER_01: What has to happen that you say I this and I'm out of here?
12:20
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I haven't had that yet happen to where I'm scared to want to leave.
12:25
SPEAKER_03: I just you know, Mandy will investigate till three or four o'clock in the morning, and by then I'm tired.
12:30
SPEAKER_03: I'm used to going to bed early.
12:32
SPEAKER_03: I'm ready to go.
12:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's nothing scares her, she just gets tired and like, oh I'm gonna leave.
12:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I used to go to bed early, so staying up late like she does is just yeah.
12:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you guys put a lot of stuff out there, nonstop stuff.
12:50
SPEAKER_00: How do you how do you keep up with it?
12:54
SPEAKER_03: Andy keeps up with it.
12:55
SPEAKER_04: I I'm the one, I'm the one, and I do have a mod who's been helping me here for the past year.
13:00
SPEAKER_04: I added on uh Diane Mendez, she's in the chats.
13:05
SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, she helps me out on YouTube.
13:07
SPEAKER_04: She's one of my mods on YouTube, she's a mod on uh my TikTok channel, but she's the only mod that I that I allow on Ghost Sisters on Facebook.
13:17
SPEAKER_04: So, you know, she I allow her to go live over.
13:20
SPEAKER_04: She's in Alabama, so sometimes she'll go out to the cemetery.
13:23
SPEAKER_04: So we're putting new content out there, you know.
13:26
SPEAKER_04: She's not I don't know if she considers herself a paranormal investigator, but she's she's kind of learning the ropes, so she goes and goes live.
13:33
SPEAKER_04: Um, she'll post content for me, like memes and stuff, you know, sometimes, but I I'm mainly the one that puts all the videos.
13:43
SPEAKER_04: Um I I go and edit the videos and I'm I post a lot of them.
13:49
SPEAKER_00: So I mean I I know it's a lot because I do it myself, and it's yeah, it's like a full-time job.
13:56
SPEAKER_04: So it is, and Facebook has a challenge, and they're always challenging me to complete the challenge every week.
14:02
SPEAKER_04: So I'm like, I gotta I gotta beat the challenge, you know.
14:06
SPEAKER_04: 15 rules, they want 15 rules, they want that's an awful lot of rules in one day.
14:12
SPEAKER_04: It's not one day, it's for the whole week.
14:15
SPEAKER_00: Still a lot.
14:16
SPEAKER_04: I mean it it is, but I'm used to it, so that's three rules a day.
14:21
SPEAKER_04: That's still crazy.
14:22
SPEAKER_00: I mean, when you go out five times a week, it's not that bad, I guess.
14:26
SPEAKER_04: I wish it was five days a week.
14:29
SPEAKER_00: It seems like you're out.
14:30
SPEAKER_04: I have the option to go anytime I want, yeah, because I retired early from law enforcement.
14:36
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so that gives me the ability.
14:38
SPEAKER_04: I can go anytime I want, and when my sister can't go, or my other sister can't go because she works first shift.
14:46
SPEAKER_04: Um, I go, I go whenever, you know.
14:49
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you have such a big network, too.
14:52
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of people you can call be like, hey, how about this place?
14:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, I got a few.
14:59
SPEAKER_03: I got a lot.
15:00
SPEAKER_03: All our life got a lot.
15:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I'm sure there's a lot of thoughts because I'll tell you what, there's some people get on there and say some mean stuff, so it's good to have somebody get on there and lock them and boot them.
15:14
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, well people some people don't believe in it, and some people do.
15:20
SPEAKER_00: I haven't really run into that that much, but haters, you know.
15:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think the more you you you're you grow on social media, then you get all the trolls, we'll call them trolls coming in.
15:32
SPEAKER_04: But it's not really on it's not really on Facebook.
15:35
SPEAKER_04: It's once in a blue moon, we might get, depending on where we went.
15:40
SPEAKER_04: Like we just went to the terrace views.
15:42
SPEAKER_04: Now that place, now we done kicked off.
15:46
SPEAKER_04: Listen, that was crazy.
15:47
SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you've seen that one.
15:49
SPEAKER_04: So um, it's a new location in um Millersburg, Ohio.
15:55
SPEAKER_04: I had put a post on Ghost Sisters, like uh, where should we go to next, you know?
15:59
SPEAKER_04: And all these people were tagging other haunted places, go here, go there, blah, blah, blah.
16:04
SPEAKER_04: Well, um, haunted rooms came over and commented.
16:08
SPEAKER_04: They actually tagged um Terrace View Hospital.
16:13
SPEAKER_04: And I was like, what's this?
16:15
SPEAKER_04: And I clicked on it and it showed this big, beautiful hospital.
16:19
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, it's in Ohio.
16:21
SPEAKER_04: And I instantly emailed them.
16:24
SPEAKER_04: And they had just opened in autumn.
16:27
SPEAKER_04: So of course I'm on it.
16:29
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, um, I'm ready to book.
16:31
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, you know, I'm looking to book and I noticed they didn't have like uh they didn't have a schedule for you to like look and see when you could.
16:40
SPEAKER_04: They just said you can go Sunday through Thursday and on the weekends and how much everything costs, and you could do ghost tours and things.
16:46
SPEAKER_04: So I was like, you guys don't have a calendar, I don't know, you know, what date I can choose.
16:50
SPEAKER_04: He said, send me something.
16:52
SPEAKER_04: We just got everything up and running, and we'll let you know.
16:55
SPEAKER_04: And I picked a Thursday because it'd be cheaper.
16:58
SPEAKER_04: And I invited, you know, um, Sean Austin, Chris Ball, um, a couple other of my friends in the paranormal, and we divided the cost and we went.
17:08
SPEAKER_04: Well, little did we know, it's not that we couldn't investigate the place, um, but there was an issue.
17:17
SPEAKER_04: There's an issue going on with the owner and the town is trying to stop him from having um investigations.
17:23
SPEAKER_04: Like, literally, the mayor is trying to tear this place down.
17:27
SPEAKER_04: They want to build um house units and things there.
17:31
SPEAKER_04: And when we went there, everybody that was with me blamed me because I went live on Facebook and they're like, Man, it was your fault.
17:40
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, we paid to be here.
17:42
SPEAKER_04: What are y'all talking about?
17:44
SPEAKER_04: They they they let us in, they doors and everything, right?
17:48
SPEAKER_04: Everybody's filming, and we're not even an hour into investigating.
17:53
SPEAKER_04: I'm live on Facebook and everything.
17:55
SPEAKER_04: And next thing I know, I'm upstairs doing the Sties and I'm sitting in a wheelchair, right?
18:00
SPEAKER_04: I can't, I'm not seeing anybody or hear anybody, I'm in the wheelchair and doing the Sties.
18:05
SPEAKER_04: All of a sudden, the my friend comes over and she's like, Mandy, Mandy, the cops are here.
18:10
SPEAKER_04: I said, What?
18:12
SPEAKER_04: Next thing I know, I see I see the cops come over.
18:16
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, Oh, what's going on?
18:19
SPEAKER_04: And they're like, Hey, you guys gotta get out of here.
18:21
SPEAKER_04: We're like, What?
18:22
SPEAKER_04: We paid to be here and we're live.
18:25
SPEAKER_04: So once we got ended the live and everything, we talked to them and they were cool as they could be.
18:32
SPEAKER_04: They they they were so did you guys get anything?
18:34
SPEAKER_04: And they were they were really cool, but they said the judge has ordered no one is to be in here investigating, so we're sorry.
18:41
SPEAKER_04: They were really cool though, and um, you know, I was telling them, I said, Hey, if you're gonna arrest us, I said, take me to where I used to work.
18:49
SPEAKER_04: I said, They'll take very good care of me.
18:52
SPEAKER_04: And my husband's a captain, I said, so I'll be taken care of.
18:56
SPEAKER_04: So, and they were cool laughing about it, and but I've never had that happen before like that.
19:02
SPEAKER_04: I was like, What?
19:02
SPEAKER_04: We paid to be here, and the own the guy, not the owner, but the guy who actually lives in the building, the caretaker, came in.
19:09
SPEAKER_04: He was so embarrassed, he said, Look, guys, we're so sorry that this happened.
19:13
SPEAKER_04: We're having an issue with the mayor, and he's trying to stop us, and blah, blah, blah.
19:18
SPEAKER_04: So they they're accommodating us.
19:21
SPEAKER_04: So they said, once we get this straightened out, and they have a website on Facebook, um, you can Google them, it's all there.
19:29
SPEAKER_04: So anybody can go and hey, and want to do this, but we didn't know this was gonna happen.
19:36
SPEAKER_04: And it was just the whole thing was funny, but it kicked up the whole town, they were all on there, all those women that used to work there because it was a um it was a mental ward, they have it on their site on Facebook, mental ward hospital.
19:53
SPEAKER_04: So it was that first, and then later it became a nursing facility.
19:58
SPEAKER_04: So you had all these nurses that was there, and they were like everybody.
20:03
SPEAKER_04: I I bet you I blocked and deleted like almost 75 people.
20:08
SPEAKER_04: It was insane.
20:09
SPEAKER_01: Everybody was like, they were mad that we were in there doing that, and we were like, Oh my gosh, but in your Facebook comments that night, and people were like, You're not allowed in there.
20:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, we wouldn't be in there if they weren't allowed.
20:25
SPEAKER_01: Well, we didn't just walk, yeah.
20:28
SPEAKER_04: The doors they let us in, the key, they had the room all set up, food and everything accommodating us, you know.
20:35
SPEAKER_03: I don't see how that's legal.
20:36
SPEAKER_03: I don't know how I don't see how they can do that.
20:38
SPEAKER_03: I don't see how that's legal.
20:40
SPEAKER_04: It was it was embarrassing on both parties, but Sean Austin was like, It was your fault, Mandy.
20:48
SPEAKER_04: Everybody's seen you live on Facebook, and even the cop said, you know how you got caught.
20:54
SPEAKER_04: I was like, but we paid to be here.
20:56
SPEAKER_04: He goes, somebody's seen you on Facebook live and reported you.
21:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, somebody had nothing else better to do.
21:03
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I was like, Oh my god.
21:07
SPEAKER_01: People suck, they really do.
21:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and but but it turns out that the guy that owns that place, he has a huge hospital over in um Montana, and he we get two nights there for free.
21:22
SPEAKER_04: And he says, That don't even worry about nothing like that happening over there.
21:26
SPEAKER_04: We got that one settled.
21:28
SPEAKER_04: He actually had the same problem when he first bought the hospital there.
21:32
SPEAKER_04: It's called the James Hospital, and he said he had the same problem with that little town, and then he got that resolved.
21:39
SPEAKER_04: So we get to book two nights there, and we get to come back to the terrace views.
21:44
SPEAKER_04: Once he gets this situated with the mayor, we get to come back for two more nights for free.
21:51
SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna work out, yeah.
21:53
SPEAKER_04: But we got so much hate from Millersburg, Ohio.
21:57
SPEAKER_04: It was crazy.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: You're seeing that a little more as more places pop up, though.
22:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, I guess the Bible belt you want to talk about.
22:06
SPEAKER_00: You know, they they people open these up, and the town just is like, Why?
22:10
SPEAKER_00: No, you can't do this.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I mean, I don't know if they're scared of the paranormal or you know, a lot of religion factor into it, also.
22:20
SPEAKER_04: Ryan and Nacho, I'm gonna tell you guys that place was haunted from the time we stepped in the door, it was popping off.
22:29
SPEAKER_04: I said I was so mad because it was so active, and they they even post videos of doors slamming and stuff, and it was so clean.
22:39
SPEAKER_04: The place was clean.
22:41
SPEAKER_04: Oh, it was nice.
22:43
SPEAKER_04: It was nice.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: So it's 2026.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: What's your big plans?
22:48
SPEAKER_04: Well, I got I got some things going on.
22:51
SPEAKER_04: Um, I can't say too much, but I can tell you just a little bit.
22:55
SPEAKER_04: Um, we we are traveling in March.
22:58
SPEAKER_04: Don't you forget Chastity?
23:00
SPEAKER_04: We're going to Missouri.
23:01
SPEAKER_04: She's taking her husband, I'm taking mine.
23:03
SPEAKER_04: We're going to two locations in Missouri.
23:05
SPEAKER_04: Um, one is an asylum, and then the next night we're going to this haunted museum.
23:10
SPEAKER_04: And we're gonna be diving into a little bit of the cryptid stuff too.
23:16
SPEAKER_04: So, yeah.
23:18
SPEAKER_00: You know, go like hunt Bigfoot and like dogman and stuff, or oh, yeah, yeah.
23:23
SPEAKER_04: I'm all about it.
23:24
SPEAKER_04: I'm all about that stuff, yeah.
23:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, people with less followers, like groups, new groups.
23:29
SPEAKER_00: We'll say new groups.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: Any advice to them on how to start out, and you know, which because you've been doing this for nine years.
23:38
SPEAKER_00: So what advice do you have for a newer group coming up?
23:43
SPEAKER_04: You know, trying to if they're trying to like get out there more to get more content going, followers or to find new places, like content places.
23:52
SPEAKER_04: I mean, well, if you want to get your your page going, get more content, you got to put more content and you have to be consistent.
24:01
SPEAKER_04: So we do a little bit of everything.
24:04
SPEAKER_04: Um, I noticed my page really started taking off years ago when I used to be real strict, I would never put my mediumship over here on Ghost Sisters because I was trying to just keep it, you know, and I would only post memes that was just had to do with the paranormal.
24:19
SPEAKER_04: And I I decided, okay, it's not I'm not getting out there enough.
24:23
SPEAKER_04: I'm getting just a little bit of likes here and there.
24:25
SPEAKER_04: I'm not really getting no new followers.
24:27
SPEAKER_04: So I was like, okay, I'm gonna change it up.
24:29
SPEAKER_04: So once I started to change it up and start throwing funny stuff on there too, mixing it up because it kind of goes with our our personalities because we are, you know, we're pretty goofy when we're we take it serious when we're out there, but we're fun.
24:42
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
24:43
SPEAKER_04: It's a personality, we're a little goofy when we're out there, but we have fun.
24:47
SPEAKER_04: Um, so I started posting funny things like that and just changing it up.
24:52
SPEAKER_04: And I noticed the page just started jumping and jumping and jumping.
24:56
SPEAKER_04: I was getting different people who might not have been into the paranormal, but they were coming over, you know.
25:02
SPEAKER_04: So just posting.
25:04
SPEAKER_04: Um you can post what you want, but you have to find out what works, okay.
25:11
SPEAKER_04: What works if you can get them to really like the paranormal and you're good with videos, posting just videos on that and memes, you might get lucky, okay?
25:21
SPEAKER_04: But you have to be consistent.
25:23
SPEAKER_04: That that's the key is consistency.
25:26
SPEAKER_04: That's that's what I've learned.
25:27
SPEAKER_04: So I do change it up.
25:29
SPEAKER_04: It's not always just funny memes, it's it's paranormal stuff, funny memes or something like that.
25:34
SPEAKER_04: And my videos, most of all my videos are paranormal.
25:38
SPEAKER_04: Every now and then I might throw a funny meme talking about, you know, when you're or funny, real when you're out there, you know, investigating something like that.
25:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a little blooper.
25:49
SPEAKER_04: That's what causes it to get out there.
25:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think you have a good mix because you do a lot of lives, a lot of videos, but you also have a lot of memes out there too, they're very interactive memes, like you ask God questions through your memes.
26:02
SPEAKER_00: So I think that brings a lot of people in.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: Um I laugh at them all the time.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: So I mean, they're good.
26:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, besides those stupid name ones.
26:11
SPEAKER_00: I hate those.
26:12
SPEAKER_00: Like, what's your elf name, or you know, your first?
26:17
SPEAKER_04: But you want to know why we will throw stuff up out there like that?
26:20
SPEAKER_04: It gets the content, it really gets the reach out there.
26:24
SPEAKER_04: No joke, it gets the reach out there.
26:27
SPEAKER_00: It does, but my name's always terrible, like it never, never a good name.
26:32
SPEAKER_00: Like, I might switch my name up just to have a cool name, elf name.
26:35
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: Do you guys have a favorite spot?
26:41
SPEAKER_01: Like one place that if if you could go to all the time that you would go to?
26:46
SPEAKER_04: Dang.
26:47
SPEAKER_04: What do you think, Chast?
26:48
SPEAKER_04: Do you got how about you, Chastity?
26:50
SPEAKER_04: Do you got a place?
26:51
SPEAKER_04: What do you think?
26:53
SPEAKER_03: Not really.
26:54
SPEAKER_03: I don't have a certain place in it.
26:56
SPEAKER_04: I I really can't I can't pinpoint one place because there's so many good places that we've returned to over and over.
27:04
SPEAKER_04: There, I can't really name one place, but one place I can say there is one place in Tennessee, the Eura Shrine, we've been to numerous times.
27:12
SPEAKER_04: We always return to that.
27:14
SPEAKER_04: Which we ain't been there in a while.
27:15
SPEAKER_04: It's shocking.
27:16
SPEAKER_04: I just filmed there, I was just there in the summertime because I I filmed there uh with Beacon TV, which uh Dave Schrader and all them.
27:25
SPEAKER_03: Um that one I would say I like better of all of them.
27:30
SPEAKER_03: I like the owner, he's cool.
27:32
SPEAKER_04: Rick, the owner's cool, yep.
27:34
SPEAKER_04: But there's so many of them.
27:36
SPEAKER_04: Um, there's Cooper Hill, Missouri.
27:39
SPEAKER_04: We found that location and we used to go to it all the time.
27:42
SPEAKER_04: There's so many.
27:44
SPEAKER_04: Um I just can't pinpoint one because we've returned to a lot of them because they were just so good, you know.
27:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: Do you feel like you return to a lot because there's answers that need to be questions that need to be answered?
27:58
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
28:00
SPEAKER_04: Because I think if you just go to a location once, you're not gonna get as much.
28:05
SPEAKER_04: I think if you keep going back, you'll get more.
28:07
SPEAKER_04: You always find more.
28:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we've been to the one in Mansfield numerous times.
28:13
SPEAKER_03: The Mansfield prison, yeah.
28:14
SPEAKER_03: No, not the prison, the what the firehouse.
28:19
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, yeah, the fire department there.
28:21
SPEAKER_04: That's a good one.
28:22
SPEAKER_04: It's a museum, fire museum in Mansfield, Ohio.
28:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, you're a shrine in Tennessee.
28:28
SPEAKER_00: I heard a lot of good things about that.
28:31
SPEAKER_04: Um, the Tennessee Shadow Chasers on we are ambassadors of the shrine, yeah.
28:37
SPEAKER_04: And uh, so the owner allows us anytime we want to go there, we just I just call up Rick and say, Hey Rick, we want to come here this date, this time, and he's like, All right.
28:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I heard like when you walk into that place, it's like stepping back in a history.
28:53
SPEAKER_03: That place is decorated for sure.
28:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's you feel the energy at this place.
28:59
SPEAKER_04: It's it's different than any place we've ever been to because most places you're going into a haunted uh Victorian house or a mansion or an asylum or a hospital, jail, prison.
29:11
SPEAKER_04: This isn't like that.
29:13
SPEAKER_04: This is like everything has a different inside of it, everything's different.
29:17
SPEAKER_04: You get the uh you got a cave, you've got um the witch's dead, you've got everything.
29:24
SPEAKER_04: The earth gate.
29:26
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's like whoa, there's so many different things in one place, you know, it's different.
29:32
SPEAKER_03: Mandy took my daughter investigating a couple weeks ago.
29:37
SPEAKER_03: Now my daughter is having things happening at her house where the toys are going off sounding like Spanish.
29:45
SPEAKER_03: My daughter's like, I'm never going to investigate with Aunt Mandy again.
29:51
SPEAKER_00: Hey, that's what answer for bad influence, right?
29:58
SPEAKER_04: Oh funny.
29:59
SPEAKER_00: We always talk about the cost of being a paranormal investigator, it's expensive, but it's fun.
30:06
SPEAKER_04: It can be expensive.
30:07
SPEAKER_04: That's why I'm I'm grateful to be able to get into a lot of these locations for free.
30:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, um, you know, that's that's cool to do.
30:15
SPEAKER_04: I and I know a lot of places that are not uh paid places to go, so I can call them up and be like, hey, I'd like to come over and investigate.
30:23
SPEAKER_04: Like, okay, yeah, come on in.
30:24
SPEAKER_04: So that's that's a plus.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it is expensive, it can be, but it's yeah, you did you did a place right down the street from me in Concord, Ohio.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: I think it was last month.
30:36
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, yeah, you should have.
30:40
SPEAKER_04: Did you reach out to me?
30:41
SPEAKER_04: And I can get it.
30:43
SPEAKER_00: I jumped on your live and they're like Concord.
30:46
SPEAKER_00: Concord Ohio.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, that's two minutes down the road.
30:50
SPEAKER_04: You know, I think I seen someone comment that, but I didn't know it was you.
30:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that was the stagecoach house.
30:57
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, um, yeah, I can get in there anytime I want.
31:02
SPEAKER_04: Now that one's abandoned, but the but the lady who owns it, she allows us to go there if we want.
31:07
SPEAKER_04: And I've taken quite a few people.
31:10
SPEAKER_00: Well, next time you're up this way, you know, hit me up.
31:12
SPEAKER_00: I'm again new places, never even heard of that place.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: I'm like Concord, what does that have?
31:17
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I know we've heard anything about that.
31:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, let's talk about equipment real quick.
31:22
SPEAKER_00: Chastity, go to equipment, inkbox and the spray, the spray we do.
31:31
SPEAKER_00: The spray.
31:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh you gotta elaborate on this.
31:35
SPEAKER_03: Put a light there, flashlight, and then we spray water, and then we have the spirit go over there to the water and take a picture because they we could get a picture of them in the mist.
31:45
SPEAKER_03: We've gotten a lot of good pictures off of it.
31:47
SPEAKER_03: We use an app to take the picture on.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you, we're gonna have to try that next time.
31:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, there's an app called Ghost Pro, and um the guy who invented it, his name is Joe.
32:01
SPEAKER_04: I can't remember his last name, but it's very interesting because you can you record with it, and it he even has it even has a built-in oveless, so sometimes words pop up.
32:13
SPEAKER_04: But what you're using, you're you're recording as you're using light and water, which you know, water is a uh is one of the factors that plays into energy for spirit.
32:26
SPEAKER_04: So a lot of times we'll use that.
32:29
SPEAKER_04: Well, we haven't actually it's it's been a we did it one time here not too long ago, but it's usually we don't use it a whole lot.
32:36
SPEAKER_04: We used to, but you just record and then you go back slowly through your video, and a lot of times you'll see images and that are really creepy, you know.
32:48
SPEAKER_04: But you have to be careful because of Paridolia that is something that your eyes are instantly going to see.
32:54
SPEAKER_04: So what I like to be the one to go through it because I want to make sure I'm not seeing that, and but we've actually captured some really cool stuff with it that actually looks like people in it, yeah.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: So besides yourself, Mandy, what equipment do you like?
33:12
SPEAKER_04: Um, I really love my my ink box, that's that's my favorite.
33:17
SPEAKER_04: I like the intercom box too, but I really love the ink box, and um I like my recorder because it is a real it's a sensitive recorder, it's an older recorder when I get stuff on there, yeah.
33:35
SPEAKER_04: But um, other than that, it's just mainly my I love my inkbox.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: Is that what you the inkbox?
33:42
SPEAKER_00: Is that like the spirit box that you use?
33:45
SPEAKER_00: Like the radio?
33:46
SPEAKER_04: Yes, it looks like an 80s boom box, yeah.
33:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I see with that all the time.
33:52
SPEAKER_00: I think you have that on 90% of the time, don't you?
33:55
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I I try not to use it.
33:58
SPEAKER_04: My husband's always like, I really wish you wouldn't use the inkbox that much.
34:02
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, why?
34:03
SPEAKER_04: And he's like, Well, I just think you guys use it too much.
34:05
SPEAKER_04: And I kind of, you know what?
34:07
SPEAKER_04: I he's right.
34:08
SPEAKER_04: I don't want, I don't want to use it the whole time, and you really shouldn't have your box running.
34:12
SPEAKER_04: You should not have, in my opinion, you shouldn't have a spirit box running the whole time.
34:16
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you can be missing so much because you could be missing on hearing disembodied voices, um, noises going on around you.
34:24
SPEAKER_04: So I will turn it on and off, but not I won't leave it running all the time.
34:29
SPEAKER_04: You can like I like to hear you know things going on.
34:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, you get a lot of good stuff out of that too, though.
34:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, you do.
34:36
SPEAKER_03: You do nice meeting you guys.
34:39
SPEAKER_03: I have to jump off here.
34:40
SPEAKER_03: I just want to jump on, say hi, and get meet you guys.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: All right, nice meeting you, Chassity.
34:45
SPEAKER_03: Um questions before I jump off here or whatever.
34:49
SPEAKER_00: Not so any questions, you know.
34:51
SPEAKER_01: Put me on the spot, man.
34:53
SPEAKER_01: Um, I can't think that fast.
34:57
SPEAKER_01: No, I think I'm good.
34:59
SPEAKER_01: I think I worked five minutes after you leave, but I'm good, guys.
35:04
SPEAKER_03: Don't worry about it.
35:07
SPEAKER_00: All right, Jess, nice meeting you.
35:09
SPEAKER_03: Nice meeting you too.
35:10
SPEAKER_03: You guys enjoyed the rest of your night.
35:12
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
35:13
SPEAKER_03: Bye.
35:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Madison Seminary is kind of like my go-to place.
35:17
SPEAKER_00: I've been there 15 times now.
35:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, I'd like it.
35:21
SPEAKER_00: Well, first of all, it's right down the street.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: Second of all, there's a lot of different spirits there, which I like.
35:27
SPEAKER_00: You got like your darker entity, you got your nicer entity.
35:31
SPEAKER_00: So it depends where you go in that building.
35:34
SPEAKER_00: And I it's kind of just a mix of spirits, and that's I kind of like that.
35:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we actually the first time we went there, I was working in law enforcement at the time we went there, and I actually took uh uh he wasn't a sergeant at the time, um, he's just a regular officer, but he went with us, and it was funny because uh we we actually used the spray and we caught a picture of a child in the hallway, and we actually got a picture of an old man wearing a red hat.
36:06
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so it's pretty good.
36:07
SPEAKER_04: And and we got a lot of um really good um EVP responses.
36:14
SPEAKER_04: I mean, the one lady was on there talking and she she was talking about oh my gosh, we got it on our on our social media.
36:21
SPEAKER_04: I can't remember because it's been so long, but this lady was talking about she called us Yank uh Yankees and everything.
36:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she she was on there, and but she was the woman we were talking to, was the woman that was staying there, she was a spy back then.
36:36
SPEAKER_04: Um, I can't remember the lady's name, but we were talking to her and she was communicating with us on the recorder, and we got like this whole big like sentence of her talking to us.
36:46
SPEAKER_04: It was cool.
36:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, evps in Madison is ridiculous.
36:50
SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you want EVPs, you go to Madison.
36:53
SPEAKER_00: I've had full sentences.
36:55
SPEAKER_00: I said it's a big Elizabeth, that's correct.
36:57
SPEAKER_00: Elizabeth was a name, yes.
36:59
SPEAKER_04: It was a little, and she said her name was Elizabeth on the recorder, too.
37:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
37:04
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's it's a great, great place though.
37:06
SPEAKER_00: If you want EVPs, that's the best.
37:08
SPEAKER_00: I'm going over my last two investigations there, and I've got some good stuff coming out of direct answers, and it was it was pretty cool.
37:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's a good place.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: Elizabeth Stiles.
37:23
SPEAKER_00: That's correct.
37:24
SPEAKER_04: Yes, Ginny, High Hills and Hauntings.
37:26
SPEAKER_04: That was the name I was trying to think of.
37:28
SPEAKER_04: Um Michelle, um, she her and I messed with the Ouija board at the Yoruba Shrine.
37:34
SPEAKER_04: We got good responses.
37:37
SPEAKER_00: Now, you got me into mirror scribing when you were at Bill.
37:41
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
37:42
SPEAKER_00: When you're at Bill Manor, you were doing it.
37:45
SPEAKER_00: I I tried it.
37:46
SPEAKER_00: It's freaky.
37:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna lie.
37:49
SPEAKER_04: You gotta do it at a do it at a place that's really, really haunted.
37:55
SPEAKER_04: Like I've done it at the um Randolph Asylum.
38:00
SPEAKER_04: I've done it at the Eura Shrine.
38:02
SPEAKER_04: That's the Eura Shrine was the first place I ever did it, and that was creepy.
38:07
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that was creepy.
38:09
SPEAKER_00: So let me ask you, what are you actually because I saw you do it at Bill Manor, and I'm like, I gotta try this.
38:15
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what I'm doing, but yeah, try it.
38:18
SPEAKER_00: What are you looking for when you're doing mirror script?
38:21
SPEAKER_04: Well, what you're looking for is to see if your your face changes.
38:25
SPEAKER_04: So basically, they always say mirrors are portals.
38:29
SPEAKER_04: So if something was to actually come through, your face will change, and I think it can be sort of like a paradolia thing, too.
38:38
SPEAKER_04: So you got to be careful with that, you know, because at one point it did look like I was getting a beard, started looking like a man, and I'm like, whoa, you know, so it it is cool um to do, but you just gotta kind of I don't know, but you can see uh shadow figures and stuff sometimes go by, yeah.
39:02
SPEAKER_04: So but it can get real creepy, you just don't know what's gonna happen.
39:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think we um do you believe a lot of people talk about that being a portal, you can bring bad stuff in.
39:15
SPEAKER_04: You know, the more I've been out there with Sean Austin and these dang portals, this man be bringing out the bad stuff.
39:24
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, I've been to the places numerous times and never had these things growling at me and talking.
39:33
SPEAKER_04: I mean, they've talked a little crazy, but like it's bad.
39:37
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, and he always says there's he feels like there's a portal or something, and that they're the thing came through the portal, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm starting to think it's either they're following him because you know he's a demonologist, or they're really coming through the thing, you know.
39:55
SPEAKER_04: I mean, who knows?
39:55
SPEAKER_04: We can't we can't see the portal, so yeah.
39:59
SPEAKER_04: I mean, who who knows what's really going on?
40:01
SPEAKER_04: Are they stepping in from the spirit room over to here because they see us, you know?
40:05
SPEAKER_04: I I don't know, but there's something to it, I think.
40:10
SPEAKER_00: We we did talk about that a little bit one podcast about how people can be portals too.
40:14
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, I've heard people say that.
40:17
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's possible Sean.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: I mean, everywhere he goes, there's a portal because they know he's gonna talk to them, yeah.
40:24
SPEAKER_00: So maybe he's creating his own portal where they're coming to talk to him.
40:28
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
40:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just a theory, I guess.
40:32
SPEAKER_00: What do you think, Nacho?
40:34
SPEAKER_00: I think you can't rule out anything.
40:37
SPEAKER_04: There you go.
40:37
SPEAKER_04: I'm with you, Nacho.
40:42
SPEAKER_00: Anything is possible at this point.
40:45
SPEAKER_00: Will we will we ever know all the answers or any of the answers?
40:49
SPEAKER_04: I don't know, you know, and that's what that's why I wanted to keep going doing what I'm doing is because I wanted answers.
40:58
SPEAKER_04: All these things that were happening around me, I was like, okay, I knew my brother was trying to warn me, you know.
41:05
SPEAKER_04: My brother he he was killed when he was 15.
41:08
SPEAKER_04: So I knew because he was the first one that came around me and was scaring the hell out of me.
41:14
SPEAKER_04: Um, but I knew that that type of spirit ghost, you know, would be trying to help you, trying to tell you things, but not all these other ones.
41:26
SPEAKER_04: I I didn't understand, okay, what is going on?
41:29
SPEAKER_04: Why am I why are they doing this?
41:31
SPEAKER_04: You know, I guess being a paranormal investigator, I wanted to know more.
41:36
SPEAKER_04: You know, I needed answers, you know.
41:38
SPEAKER_04: I I want to know.
41:39
SPEAKER_04: I'm very intrigued in the afterlife.
41:42
SPEAKER_04: I I really am.
41:44
SPEAKER_04: Even though I communicate with spirit all the time when I do readings for people all over the world, it it's not enough.
41:49
SPEAKER_04: I love it when I hear them talking to me when I'm out there investigating.
41:54
SPEAKER_04: It's awesome to capture, you know, that that evidence.
41:58
SPEAKER_00: I always tell Nacho, I want to get the story straight because stories change all the time.
42:03
SPEAKER_00: And maybe that's why they're trapped here, because their stories are wrong.
42:06
SPEAKER_04: You know, that I've never looked at it like that.
42:09
SPEAKER_04: That's a good way to look at it.
42:12
SPEAKER_04: Because you know what, every time we're out there, it's like, help, help me, help, help.
42:16
SPEAKER_04: It's like, oh my gosh, what's going on over there?
42:18
SPEAKER_00: You know what kind of help do you need?
42:21
SPEAKER_04: Like, yeah, exactly.
42:22
SPEAKER_04: But who's hurting you?
42:24
SPEAKER_04: You you okay?
42:25
SPEAKER_04: You just want to move on?
42:27
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but this is my passion, you know.
42:32
SPEAKER_04: This isn't a hobby.
42:33
SPEAKER_04: I would never call investigating a hobby.
42:36
SPEAKER_04: Never.
42:37
SPEAKER_04: I lift weights for a living.
42:38
SPEAKER_04: I'm a fitness person, I've been lifting weights for god is gonna tell my age, 26, 27 years now.
42:45
SPEAKER_04: But that's my hobby.
42:47
SPEAKER_04: Ghost hunting, that is my passion.
42:50
SPEAKER_04: I love it, and that's why you see me out there so much, too.
42:53
SPEAKER_04: I I I can't, it's very addicting.
42:56
SPEAKER_04: You can't get enough, you know.
42:58
SPEAKER_04: You just want more.
43:01
SPEAKER_00: It's it's I I call it a hobby right now because I'm not retired.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: Because I'm not retired and I can't make it my passion yet.
43:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, hopefully in a few years it'll be my passion.
43:11
SPEAKER_04: So I love it.
43:14
SPEAKER_04: I do.
43:14
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I I love just going out there.
43:17
SPEAKER_00: It's it's I guess a break from reality, you want to call it.
43:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, getting away from work, getting away from you know, everyday life.