Latest / Meet the Candidate - Pittsburgh & Western Pennsylvania / Mike Kelly for Congress (R)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: And welcome in. This is Meet the Candidate, designed to
- 0:03Speaker 1: give you an opportunity to hear directly from the people
- 0:05Speaker 1: who are asking for your vote. No endorsements, no debate,
- 0:08Speaker 1: just a conversation about the candidate, the issues, and where
- 0:11Speaker 1: they stand, so you can make up your own mind.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Today we're talking with Congressman Mike Kelly, the Republican candidate
- 0:17Speaker 1: for Pennsylvania's 16th Congressional District. Kelly currently represents a district
- 0:21Speaker 1: in the U.S. House of Representatives and is seeking another
- 0:24Speaker 1: term in Washington. Congressman Mike Kelly, thank you, and welcome
- 0:28Speaker 1: to Meet the Candidate.
- 0:29Speaker 2: And Johnny, top of the morning to you.
- 0:31Speaker 1: All right, so if there's one thing you want voters
- 0:33Speaker 1: to understand about your campaign, what would that be?
- 0:36Speaker 2: I think that no matter what we do in life,
- 0:39Speaker 2: whether you're looking for medical help or you're looking for
- 0:42Speaker 2: any type of help or anything, it's really important to
- 0:44Speaker 2: read people's resumes. because nobody just takes a chance. Say
- 0:47Speaker 2: they have the shingawat, I'd have no idea who they
- 0:50Speaker 2: are or which way they lean or what they're concerned about.
- 0:54Speaker 2: I think the main concern I have now is too
- 0:57Speaker 2: often voters look at things and it's like, oh, it's
- 1:00Speaker 2: not a big election. I say, what do you mean
- 1:01Speaker 2: by a big election? Because in the eyes of somebody
- 1:04Speaker 2: who's lived here all their life, every election is a
- 1:06Speaker 2: big election. But in this one, it's like, well, if
- 1:10Speaker 2: the presidential issue isn't on the ticket, I really don't
- 1:14Speaker 2: get involved. And I said, well, that That's okay, but
- 1:17Speaker 2: it's not okay because in the midterms, which is what
- 1:20Speaker 2: we're going to be talking about now, the entire swing
- 1:23Speaker 2: of legislation and the direction you're going in can change completely.
- 1:27Speaker 2: And when I try to explain to people, so look,
- 1:30Speaker 2: when we're in the majority, we have an incredible responsibility
- 1:33Speaker 2: to govern. But also, under the model that we use,
- 1:37Speaker 2: we have different opportunities. So I'm on something called the
- 1:40Speaker 2: Ways and Means Committee. So when you're on the majority...
- 1:43Speaker 2: you actually chair the committee. You also chair the subcommittees
- 1:47Speaker 2: under each one of those committees. And the question then becomes, well,
- 1:50Speaker 2: is that important? I said, only if you're interested in
- 1:52Speaker 2: legislation and only if you're interested in the direction of
- 1:56Speaker 2: the nation. So policy has everything to do with it.
- 1:59Speaker 2: Too many people get wrapped up around personalities and not
- 2:02Speaker 2: policies anymore. And I say, interesting. I understand what you're
- 2:05Speaker 2: saying now. What policy do we need to talk about?
- 2:08Speaker 2: And We're on the phone constantly. We have three offices,
- 2:11Speaker 2: one in Erie, one in Sharon, Pennsylvania, one in Butler, Pennsylvania,
- 2:14Speaker 2: so that none of our constituents have to travel more
- 2:16Speaker 2: than a half hour or 40 minutes to actually get
- 2:18Speaker 2: to one of our offices and get help. And most
- 2:20Speaker 2: of the help we do is with Social Security, it's
- 2:23Speaker 2: with health care, it's with immigration. So it's things like
- 2:26Speaker 2: that where those, when we're at home, and I'm talking
- 2:29Speaker 2: about in Pennsylvania's 16th Congressional District, we work on customer service.
- 2:33Speaker 2: And I think that's where my background, being in the
- 2:35Speaker 2: automobile industry, the first car you sell is usually because
- 2:38Speaker 2: of the price. The next time they come back is
- 2:40Speaker 2: because of the service. So back home, we are handling
- 2:45Speaker 2: any type of problem with any federal issue that any
- 2:49Speaker 2: of our people have. In D.C., we work on legislation.
- 2:53Speaker 2: So service first, that's at home. Legislation, that's in Washington, D.C.,
- 2:57Speaker 2: which is an altogether different animal. I think the biggest
- 3:00Speaker 2: problem that most of us have with anything is I
- 3:03Speaker 2: don't understand when I call Social Security, when I call
- 3:07Speaker 2: whomever it is, it's just so hard to get a
- 3:09Speaker 2: hold of somebody. I need to get answers, and the
- 3:11Speaker 2: answer is call our office in Sharon, call our office
- 3:14Speaker 2: in Erie, call our office in Butler. We have people
- 3:16Speaker 2: who do nothing. And by the way, Johnny, during COVID,
- 3:19Speaker 2: we never took a day off. We did not miss
- 3:22Speaker 2: one day. We were there every single day because the
- 3:25Speaker 2: same issues were there, but not always the same people
- 3:28Speaker 2: answering phones. The federal office never closed, so we were
- 3:31Speaker 2: always hell-bent on, let's make sure our constituents get service.
- 3:36Speaker 1: You talked about policy. What is one policy that is
- 3:39Speaker 1: near and dear to your heart?
- 3:41Speaker 2: You know what? I can't say there's any one that's
- 3:43Speaker 2: near and dear to our heart. I think that I'm
- 3:45Speaker 2: blessed with the background that I have from a really
- 3:47Speaker 2: strong family who was always engaged in what was going
- 3:51Speaker 2: on in our community. But as far as the policies
- 3:54Speaker 2: are concerned right now, I'm talking about national security as
- 3:57Speaker 2: the biggest challenge I think that we have. And I
- 4:00Speaker 2: think there's been kind of a misunderstanding that in the
- 4:03Speaker 2: world today, globally, There's great strife taking place everywhere. The
- 4:08Speaker 2: only person, the only country to show up every time
- 4:10Speaker 2: there's a problem is America. It's always the Yanks. The
- 4:14Speaker 2: Yanks show up. Oh, we have a problem over here.
- 4:16Speaker 2: We'll be there. Oh, we're having a problem down. Oh,
- 4:18Speaker 2: we'll be there. And we have an incredible, incredible opposition
- 4:22Speaker 2: around the world. Secretary Rumsfeld was very famous when he said,
- 4:27Speaker 2: you know, old Europe is gone. And when people say, well,
- 4:29Speaker 2: what did he mean by that? And so you'd have
- 4:31Speaker 2: to take a look at Europe and say, okay, what
- 4:33Speaker 2: happened in Germany? What happened in Russia? What happened in Ireland?
- 4:37Speaker 2: What happened in England? What happened? What happened? And I
- 4:40Speaker 2: don't mean this to be controversial. We have always been people.
- 4:46Speaker 2: If somebody's in trouble, we want to be the first responder.
- 4:49Speaker 2: If somebody's lost their way in where it is that
- 4:52Speaker 2: they were born, come in. Come in. We have room
- 4:56Speaker 2: for you. Come in. We're always going to have that
- 4:58Speaker 2: open door. But the difference, I think, when you look today,
- 5:02Speaker 2: the idea is that we wanted people to come in
- 5:05Speaker 2: because they wanted to assimilate. They wanted to become part
- 5:07Speaker 2: of the greatest dream the world's ever had, and that's
- 5:10Speaker 2: the United States of America. Now we have this idea, well,
- 5:14Speaker 2: we're not comfortable with just assimilating. We want to eliminate.
- 5:17Speaker 2: We want to change the culture completely and go in
- 5:19Speaker 2: a different way. I've often said this to my friends.
- 5:23Speaker 2: I said, you know what? One of the things I'm
- 5:25Speaker 2: so grateful for, my grandparents, my mom and dad, my
- 5:29Speaker 2: aunts and uncles, if they would have known then what's
- 5:32Speaker 2: going on now, they'd say, what in the world happened?
- 5:35Speaker 2: What happened? And the answer is, it's been so good
- 5:38Speaker 2: for so long. We just think the sun's going to
- 5:40Speaker 2: come up. It's going to be the same America. And
- 5:42Speaker 2: then we have other folks around the world that looks at,
- 5:44Speaker 2: they invited us in. now i think it's our turn
- 5:47Speaker 2: to run it because they're they're not who we like
- 5:49Speaker 2: and i i think it's a great if the great
- 5:51Speaker 2: misunderstanding we want people to come in we want people
- 5:54Speaker 2: become part of the american dream we want them to
- 5:57Speaker 2: have that opportunity what we want them to do more
- 6:00Speaker 2: than anything else is learn about who we are as
- 6:02Speaker 2: americans I consider myself an Irish American, but above everything else,
- 6:06Speaker 2: I'm an American. And you and I can talk about
- 6:09Speaker 2: who came there before us and what did they bring. Well,
- 6:11Speaker 2: they brought a whole lot, but more than anything else,
- 6:13Speaker 2: why did they come to America? For opportunity. For opportunity
- 6:17Speaker 2: that they were denied and wherever it was that they
- 6:18Speaker 2: were born, they said, let's go to America. We'll have
- 6:21Speaker 2: a chance in America. And that's been true. We are,
- 6:25Speaker 2: and I know people will argue with me. I said,
- 6:28Speaker 2: don't use the term we're the greatest country in the world.
- 6:30Speaker 2: I said, okay, fine. Let me just shift it to
- 6:31Speaker 2: this because the country refers to that great big green
- 6:34Speaker 2: patch you see on the map. Let's just talk about
- 6:37Speaker 2: we're the greatest nation. We're the most welcoming people in
- 6:39Speaker 2: the world. We don't discriminate. I'm not saying we're perfect.
- 6:43Speaker 2: We want people to come in and want them to
- 6:46Speaker 2: enjoy the freedom that America has always provided.
- 6:49Speaker 1: I love the analogy that you had with the car
- 6:51Speaker 1: dealership when you said price and then the service. So
- 6:57Speaker 1: let's bring it locally. When it comes to Pennsylvania, how can...
- 7:03Speaker 1: how can you, you know, what can Washington do to
- 7:09Speaker 1: help Pennsylvania grow and create jobs and keep people working?
- 7:12Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's really a good question. I think each
- 7:14Speaker 2: of the states have different attributes and different things. You say, hey,
- 7:17Speaker 2: this is, they really are rich in this. And we
- 7:20Speaker 2: used to be called the Saudi Arabian natural gas not
- 7:22Speaker 2: too long ago because of what we had found, right,
- 7:25Speaker 2: with Marcellus. And we have other layers below that. And
- 7:28Speaker 2: we were saying, my goodness, we have a source of
- 7:30Speaker 2: energy that's going to be going to be usable, and
- 7:32Speaker 2: it's going to make it possible for people to come
- 7:34Speaker 2: here to have their business, to do whatever they need
- 7:36Speaker 2: to do, because at the end of everything, if you
- 7:39Speaker 2: don't have the energy, you're not going to be able
- 7:41Speaker 2: to have the success that needs to go with it.
- 7:43Speaker 2: So when you look at Pennsylvania, and we're called the
- 7:46Speaker 2: Keystone State, too, for a good reason. I tell people
- 7:49Speaker 2: all the time, go back and see why we're called
- 7:51Speaker 2: the Keystone State, because we were the ones that held
- 7:53Speaker 2: the union together. When you look at Pennsylvania, when you
- 7:57Speaker 2: look at Pennsylvania's natural resources, We have the ability to
- 8:00Speaker 2: do things that some other places in the country don't have.
- 8:03Speaker 2: We have the ability, though, to drive innovation. We have
- 8:07Speaker 2: the ability to drive people saying, you know what? There's
- 8:11Speaker 2: a job for you. There's a good-paying job for you.
- 8:13Speaker 2: There's a future for you, for your family, and for
- 8:15Speaker 2: those that come after us. And I think Pennsylvania is
- 8:18Speaker 2: so rich in that. So from policy, you want to
- 8:22Speaker 2: be careful what you do. Nobody should just say, we're
- 8:24Speaker 2: just going to go ahead and do it because we
- 8:25Speaker 2: think it's a good opportunity. Yes, but with opportunity, you
- 8:28Speaker 2: also have the responsibility to make sure that the opportunity,
- 8:32Speaker 2: in fact, is an opportunity and that we're handling it
- 8:34Speaker 2: the right way. Regulation is very important no matter what
- 8:37Speaker 2: we do. I know we're having this debate now about AI.
- 8:41Speaker 2: And of course, we live in a world of acronyms
- 8:43Speaker 2: right now. People say, I don't like ANI. I said,
- 8:44Speaker 2: tell me what ANI is. They'll say, what's ANI? I said, no,
- 8:48Speaker 2: but do you know what it is? Because if you
- 8:51Speaker 2: know what it is, then you understand it's a little
- 8:52Speaker 2: bit different. I tell people, and this is probably too
- 8:55Speaker 2: young for most of our audience, go back to Space
- 8:57Speaker 2: Odyssey 2001. And the discussion that took place at that
- 9:01Speaker 2: movie in 1966 was that a robot took over a
- 9:05Speaker 2: space station and was starting to drive the whole purpose
- 9:08Speaker 2: of the space station. And finally, the humans had to
- 9:10Speaker 2: disconnect it to get it back to normalcy. So, yes,
- 9:13Speaker 2: we had to have... Daisy, Daisy. I'm sorry, Al. So, anyways,
- 9:19Speaker 2: we go through this, but I always ask people, please
- 9:22Speaker 2: step out of the political arena and step into policy.
- 9:26Speaker 2: I don't care if you're red or blue, if the
- 9:29Speaker 2: end result is that it's strong for the red, white,
- 9:31Speaker 2: and blue. We represent three quarters of a million people.
- 9:34Speaker 2: I defy anybody serving this office right now. And there's
- 9:37Speaker 2: 435 congressmen, right? So there's 435 districts around the state,
- 9:41Speaker 2: around the country. If somebody can tell me they're an
- 9:43Speaker 2: all red or an all blue, I would say, please,
- 9:47Speaker 2: you're in the wrong place. You're being to get someplace
- 9:48Speaker 2: where there's a mix, everything in life. And I mean,
- 9:51Speaker 2: what are we known for? We're known for steel. What's
- 9:53Speaker 2: steel made from? From a lot of different things coming together.
- 9:56Speaker 2: We melt it and we make it. And people talk
- 9:59Speaker 2: to me, well, steel, steel. I said, steel is not steel.
- 10:00Speaker 2: There are many varieties of steel and it depends what
- 10:02Speaker 2: you put into it. It's the product that comes out.
- 10:05Speaker 2: I love the fact that we're from Pittsburgh. We had
- 10:08Speaker 2: three rivers that made it possible for people to bring
- 10:10Speaker 2: whatever we needed to make steel. They came here. We
- 10:13Speaker 2: are the driver. We are the whole factory of any
- 10:17Speaker 2: type of success in early America. So, again, getting back
- 10:21Speaker 2: to the real issue right now, we're too politically divided
- 10:25Speaker 2: and not enough understanding of what is the policy that
- 10:29Speaker 2: is in the best interest of the people we represent
- 10:32Speaker 2: right now, the people who made it possible for us,
- 10:35Speaker 2: who came before us and gave us that opportunity, and
- 10:37Speaker 2: all those coming after us, that we can compete with
- 10:40Speaker 2: anybody in the world on any stage and say at
- 10:43Speaker 2: the end, at the end, it's always got to be
- 10:46Speaker 2: America first.
- 10:48Speaker 1: Affordability is the new buzzword. What is Congress doing to
- 10:51Speaker 1: help lower costs for Pennsylvania families?
- 10:53Speaker 2: You know what? That is the number one issue, right?
- 10:57Speaker 2: It's affordability. At one point, it was inflation. Inflation went
- 11:01Speaker 2: from that into affordability. Well, inflation caused the problem with affordability.
- 11:07Speaker 2: While we've been able to tamp down the percentage of
- 11:09Speaker 2: inflation that's happening, we have not been able to lower prices.
- 11:13Speaker 2: The biggest driver of everything, cost of everything, is energy.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Right?
- 11:18Speaker 2: No matter what it is that we make, no matter
- 11:20Speaker 2: what it is that we do, energy is behind all
- 11:22Speaker 2: of it. So what is our source of energy? What
- 11:24Speaker 2: is the cost of producing that energy? And that ultimately
- 11:27Speaker 2: is figured into the end price of whatever it is,
- 11:29Speaker 2: whether it's a good or a service. So when energy
- 11:31Speaker 2: is up, the prices of everything are up. And we
- 11:35Speaker 2: talk now, yes, inflation caused the affordability problem. How do
- 11:41Speaker 2: you tamp it down? It's a very difficult thing to
- 11:43Speaker 2: do because once it's at a certain level, in my lifetime,
- 11:47Speaker 2: I very rarely have seen prices come down. Sometimes they
- 11:50Speaker 2: go up very small, but there's never been any quarter
- 11:53Speaker 2: that I've looked at where somebody says, geez, we've actually
- 11:55Speaker 2: had a reduction. People would say, well, I can accept 3%,
- 11:59Speaker 2: 4% inflation. I can't accept double-digit inflation. Double-digit inflation, once
- 12:04Speaker 2: it's up there, in order to get it down, the
- 12:06Speaker 2: only thing that stops it is for people to stop
- 12:09Speaker 2: buying it. And I don't care. Any store you go into,
- 12:13Speaker 2: the stuff that's on sale, this is stuff that isn't
- 12:15Speaker 2: saleable at the price it is. And you see markdowns.
- 12:18Speaker 2: And people usually look, I want to find out what's there.
- 12:22Speaker 2: I'll go to a place where stuff's on sale. What
- 12:24Speaker 2: does that mean? It's less than it was the day before.
- 12:27Speaker 2: It's more affordable for my family.
- 12:32Speaker 1: You've been in Congress since 2011. What is the one
- 12:35Speaker 1: issue where Republicans and Democrats... need to find common ground
- 12:39Speaker 1: to deliver results for Pennsylvania?
- 12:41Speaker 2: I think more than anything else right now is probably housing.
- 12:44Speaker 2: I don't know that in my lifetime I've ever seen
- 12:46Speaker 2: a situation where finding some place to live is difficult.
- 12:51Speaker 2: And the reason it's difficult is because it's no longer affordable.
- 12:55Speaker 2: The house that my wife and I live in, I
- 12:57Speaker 2: bought in an auction in 1974 for $ 50, 000. And somebody says, no, seriously.
- 13:04Speaker 2: I said, well, wait a minute. That house was built
- 13:06Speaker 2: in 1917. It was at an auction. There was only
- 13:10Speaker 2: two people that showed up, myself and another person. And
- 13:13Speaker 2: for whatever reason, I know when I came back to
- 13:16Speaker 2: the dealership and my dad said to me, were you
- 13:18Speaker 2: able to get that house? I said, I did. He goes, okay,
- 13:21Speaker 2: what were you able to buy it for? I said, $ 50, 000.
- 13:23Speaker 2: He says, good Lord, you didn't pay $ 50, 000 for a house,
- 13:26Speaker 2: did you? Dad, I mean, you've seen the house. He goes,
- 13:31Speaker 2: I don't care about seeing the house. Can you afford it?
- 13:35Speaker 2: Because your mother and I aren't going to make the
- 13:36Speaker 2: payment for you. And I think that I was raised
- 13:39Speaker 2: by people who really were ratcheted down on it. They always,
- 13:42Speaker 2: the term live within your means meant exactly that, live
- 13:45Speaker 2: within your means. He came and saw the house. He said,
- 13:47Speaker 2: good Lord, this is the most beautiful house I've ever seen.
- 13:49Speaker 2: You paid too much for it. And I said, okay, thanks. So,
- 13:54Speaker 2: I mean, you paid too much, but that really means
- 13:56Speaker 2: is don't come and ask me when you get the bind.
- 13:59Speaker 2: And I think that I was raised by, I mean,
- 14:02Speaker 2: between the McTighs and the Kellys and the Sarsfields and
- 14:05Speaker 2: the Simmelsburgers, I was raised by a group of people
- 14:08Speaker 2: who were just the best. My grandma Kelly, this is funny, Bobby,
- 14:11Speaker 2: we go to mass and then after mass, everybody would
- 14:13Speaker 2: go to my grandma Kelly's house. Now, in her living room,
- 14:17Speaker 2: there was a picture of the Lord, and there was
- 14:18Speaker 2: a picture of FDR. And my family constantly got mixed
- 14:22Speaker 2: up with which one was God. But they were so blue-collar.
- 14:26Speaker 2: I mean, they were so Democrat. And my grandfather, Kelly,
- 14:29Speaker 2: I'd sit in his lap, and he would talk to
- 14:31Speaker 2: me about the leprechauns and the banshees and all that.
- 14:33Speaker 2: And my grandma, she was German, and she said, oh, Pap,
- 14:37Speaker 2: stop putting that in his ear. Mike, come out here
- 14:40Speaker 2: and help me. I need to get something done. And
- 14:42Speaker 2: in their house, by the way, and people say, I
- 14:44Speaker 2: have no idea what you're talking about. I used to
- 14:46Speaker 2: watch the guy bring ice up with a clamp and
- 14:49Speaker 2: put it in. We call it a refrigerator today. Back then,
- 14:52Speaker 2: they called it an icebox. And my kids asked me, so, Dad,
- 14:55Speaker 2: why did your grandmother call it an icebox? I said,
- 14:57Speaker 2: because it was a block of ice in there. And
- 14:59Speaker 2: that's what they have. I said, that's like you guys
- 15:00Speaker 2: when you go to some kind of a game or
- 15:02Speaker 2: a concert. You take a little cooler and you fill
- 15:05Speaker 2: it with ice and you fill it with whatever it
- 15:06Speaker 2: is your choices of that day to keep it cold.
- 15:08Speaker 2: That's the way they did it back then. And they said,
- 15:11Speaker 2: are you serious? I said, absolutely. He said, well, where
- 15:13Speaker 2: did they get the ice? I said, well, I used
- 15:15Speaker 2: to get it. They used to get it from the river.
- 15:17Speaker 2: They used to get it from Lake Erie. The Chautauqua Lake,
- 15:20Speaker 2: or the ice factory is now the Heinz History Center.
- 15:23Speaker 2: And Johnny, for me, they went down and they would
- 15:26Speaker 2: cut blocks of ice out, right? Horse-drawn sled. They would
- 15:30Speaker 2: take it to their ice house, which was triple-boarded or something, insulated.
- 15:34Speaker 2: They would pack it in sawdust, and it would last
- 15:36Speaker 2: for quite some time. Now, people say, what bad dream
- 15:39Speaker 2: did you have? I said, no, it wasn't a bad dream.
- 15:40Speaker 2: It was the most wonderful dream. And I love to
- 15:42Speaker 2: go back there all the time. When I take a nap,
- 15:44Speaker 2: I say, God, I wish I could go back to
- 15:45Speaker 2: those days. Not that I want to experience them again.
- 15:48Speaker 2: I want my kids and my grandkids to know the
- 15:50Speaker 2: price that was paid, the sacrifices that were made for
- 15:52Speaker 2: those that came before us. Because there's no place else
- 15:54Speaker 2: in the world like this. And I just, people talk
- 15:57Speaker 2: to me all the time. They're upset about this and
- 15:59Speaker 2: they're upset about that. I said, really? So, I get
- 16:01Speaker 2: that you're upset. So, when are you leaving and where
- 16:04Speaker 2: are you going?
- 16:05Speaker 1: Well, you're obviously very proud of your Irish heritage.
- 16:08Speaker 2: I'm proud of my country. There's no place else in
- 16:11Speaker 2: the world like it. Well, let's talk about Pittsburgh pride. Sure.
- 16:14Speaker 1: And you spent your career in business and public service here.
- 16:18Speaker 1: And what do you believe makes Western PA special? And
- 16:22Speaker 1: what is the biggest opportunity for its next generation?
- 16:26Speaker 2: You know, when you talk about Pittsburgh, we don't usually
- 16:29Speaker 2: talk about Pittsburgh as Pittsburgh. We talk about Pittsburgh as neighborhoods,
- 16:33Speaker 2: different neighborhoods. Each neighborhood had its own church. And if
- 16:36Speaker 2: I was growing up, People didn't identify the neighborhood they
- 16:39Speaker 2: went in, they identified it as a church. Oh, well,
- 16:42Speaker 2: that's where Holy Sacrament is. Oh, that's over by St. Paul's. No, no, no,
- 16:46Speaker 2: that's down by St. Peter and Paul. And then I'd say, yeah, yeah,
- 16:49Speaker 2: I get, now I know where you're from. But more
- 16:51Speaker 2: than anything else, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh is truly the model that
- 16:56Speaker 2: we make steel from. People from all over the world
- 17:00Speaker 2: coming here, settling in different neighborhoods. But at the end
- 17:02Speaker 2: of the day, they made the strongest product you could
- 17:05Speaker 2: possibly imagine. And that's why we may identify as, oh,
- 17:08Speaker 2: I'm Polish-American. No, I'm German. I'm French-American. No. The second
- 17:13Speaker 2: part of it is always the most important ingredient. I'm
- 17:15Speaker 2: an American. And so, when I look at what's happening today,
- 17:19Speaker 2: I think it's great to recognize who came before you,
- 17:23Speaker 2: but it's even greater to understand why is it that
- 17:25Speaker 2: they came from where they were to come here, and
- 17:28Speaker 2: what were they actually part of? The greatest experiment in
- 17:30Speaker 2: self-government the world's ever known. Now, are we perfect? No,
- 17:34Speaker 2: we're not perfect. No, no. But we never stop trying
- 17:37Speaker 2: to be perfect. And the thing that I think that
- 17:40Speaker 2: we have to be careful of, we're getting too polarized
- 17:44Speaker 2: on personalities, and we're not looking at the policy. Tell
- 17:48Speaker 2: me about the policy. Are you in favor of the policy?
- 17:52Speaker 2: Or are you so offended by the personality that you
- 17:55Speaker 2: don't look past the personality and look at what the
- 17:58Speaker 2: policy is? And I think that's a That's a real
- 18:01Speaker 2: problem we have right now. I got to tell you,
- 18:04Speaker 2: my time in Congress has been, and sometimes people pat
- 18:07Speaker 2: you on the back, and other times they want to
- 18:08Speaker 2: kick you in the backside and say, listen, I heard
- 18:11Speaker 2: you did a piece of legislation with the Democrat. What's
- 18:13Speaker 2: wrong with you? I said, do you know what the
- 18:15Speaker 2: legislation was? They'll go, what are you talking about? I said, well,
- 18:18Speaker 2: you just said you're upset because I was working with
- 18:20Speaker 2: the Democrat. Well, I mean, so tell me what the
- 18:24Speaker 2: policy was, and I can tell you why we're together
- 18:28Speaker 2: on it. I'll say, no, that's not my issue. I said, well,
- 18:31Speaker 2: then you need somebody else to talk to. I represent
- 18:36Speaker 2: three-quarters of a million people. They're not all Republicans. They're
- 18:42Speaker 2: not all Democrats. And some of them are just in
- 18:43Speaker 2: the middle, and they say, look, can't you guys just
- 18:46Speaker 2: get along and do the right thing for the right
- 18:47Speaker 2: reasons for all of us? And I think we've gotten
- 18:50Speaker 2: so polarized right now. We've got to be careful. We've
- 18:53Speaker 2: got to be careful. The longer you go down that road,
- 18:57Speaker 2: There's an old saying, never say what you'll never do,
- 19:00Speaker 2: because you may reach that point in your life as,
- 19:01Speaker 2: I know I said this before, but I didn't know
- 19:04Speaker 2: what I know now. And legislation is legislation. And I
- 19:09Speaker 2: look at both sides of the party, right? We have
- 19:11Speaker 2: too many entertainers and not enough legislators. That is a
- 19:14Speaker 2: huge problem. When you think that you don't understand, I
- 19:18Speaker 2: watched Sean last night, and Sean was really upset with
- 19:21Speaker 2: you because you did this or that. I said, that's interesting.
- 19:24Speaker 2: What office has Sean ever served in? I mean, I
- 19:26Speaker 2: know they sell advertising, and I know price per point
- 19:29Speaker 2: is huge, but you go to the far right or
- 19:31Speaker 2: the far left, and you'll find people who are working
- 19:34Speaker 2: on dividing us as a country as opposed to uniting us.
- 19:38Speaker 2: Good legislation is good legislation. If you're a legislator, go
- 19:42Speaker 2: to work to be a legislator. Don't go to work
- 19:44Speaker 2: to be an entertainer, or for somebody, you the patch
- 19:47Speaker 2: on the back says i'm glad you gave those sobs
- 19:49Speaker 2: a kick in the say okay fine uh you're upset
- 19:52Speaker 2: with me tell me about the policy and tell me
- 19:55Speaker 2: why you're upset with it and they said that's not
- 19:56Speaker 2: my problem my problem is you're on that with a
- 19:59Speaker 2: democrat and i said this person this person is a
- 20:03Speaker 2: very good person we don't agree on everything that's why
- 20:06Speaker 2: we have a process we can actually amend pieces of legislation.
- 20:11Speaker 2: And if the legislation fits, say, okay, that's fine. You
- 20:14Speaker 2: made a stronger product out of it by having somebody
- 20:17Speaker 2: else add to it. Say, absolutely. But the lack of understanding,
- 20:20Speaker 2: I think, right now is one of the number one
- 20:22Speaker 2: things that drives us apart as political parties as opposed
- 20:26Speaker 2: to the understanding that policy should affect everybody in a
- 20:31Speaker 2: positive way, not a negative way.
- 20:33Speaker 1: The last word is yours. What do you want voters
- 20:35Speaker 1: to know before we wrap up?
- 20:38Speaker 2: I want voters to think If I wasn't feeling good,
- 20:44Speaker 2: who would I seek out? Would I say, I'm going
- 20:47Speaker 2: to go to anybody that has a shingle hanging out there?
- 20:49Speaker 2: Am I going to look at their resume to begin with?
- 20:51Speaker 2: Am I going to look at their body of work
- 20:53Speaker 2: before I begin with? If I'm a Democrat, if you're
- 20:56Speaker 2: not a Democrat, then I'm not voting for you. Say, okay,
- 20:59Speaker 2: what about the Republican on the ticket? I could care less.
- 21:01Speaker 2: The Republican, I won't vote for him. Do you know
- 21:04Speaker 2: what their legislative intent is? I don't care about that.
- 21:08Speaker 2: We're so polarized now. between parties. We're not looking together
- 21:12Speaker 2: at what policy is. The most important thing, you and
- 21:14Speaker 2: I are talking right now, you have a background, you
- 21:18Speaker 2: have a resume, you have gathered a group of people
- 21:22Speaker 2: who listen to you, who want to hear from you.
- 21:24Speaker 2: I mean, shouldn't it be at the end of the
- 21:25Speaker 2: day that if I'm ill, I want to find the
- 21:28Speaker 2: best doctor? And you know what? I'm going to check
- 21:30Speaker 2: before I go to any one place to find out
- 21:32Speaker 2: with the issue that I have. I want the best
- 21:35Speaker 2: person working on me to heal me. I want that
- 21:37Speaker 2: to happen. I don't care I don't care what faith
- 21:41Speaker 2: they practice. I don't care what party they belong to.
- 21:44Speaker 2: I don't care about any of that. I want a
- 21:46Speaker 2: positive result to whatever it is. So you better go
- 21:49Speaker 2: talk with somebody who finds the best of everything on
- 21:53Speaker 2: what's available and votes that way. If it's a red
- 21:57Speaker 2: issue or a blue issue and that's the only thing
- 21:58Speaker 2: you vote on, then please go take a look at
- 22:01Speaker 2: the flag. It's actually red, white, and blue. And if
- 22:05Speaker 2: we can start looking at policy and what is in
- 22:07Speaker 2: the best interest of the people we represent, We all
- 22:10Speaker 2: represent three-quarters of a million people. I defy anybody to
- 22:13Speaker 2: tell me. I talked to every one of them, and
- 22:15Speaker 2: they didn't like the way you voted. I said, well,
- 22:17Speaker 2: you know what? That's a pretty bold statement. I don't
- 22:19Speaker 2: think you talked to anybody. I think what you probably
- 22:21Speaker 2: did was listen last night, and you got onto a
- 22:23Speaker 2: five-minute clip. They never discussed what the legislation was, just
- 22:26Speaker 2: that it was this horrible, horrible move that the right
- 22:29Speaker 2: made or the horrible move that the left made. And
- 22:32Speaker 2: the information, there's nothing more important in the world than education.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Education is the key to everything. Get educated so you
- 22:40Speaker 2: know what's going on. And at the end of the day,
- 22:43Speaker 2: in the position that we're all in, we're legislators. And
- 22:46Speaker 2: there's entertainers out there. You can turn to whatever you
- 22:48Speaker 2: want to turn to. You can listen to country, Western music.
- 22:50Speaker 2: You can listen to classic. You can listen to what
- 22:52Speaker 2: you want. But at the end of the day, look
- 22:54Speaker 2: at the policy. Look at the policy and isn't it
- 22:56Speaker 2: the best interest of those people that you represent? And
- 22:59Speaker 2: if the answer is, you know what, they are, then
- 23:02Speaker 2: cast all the other stuff aside. and actually look at
- 23:05Speaker 2: the policy. I think right now the biggest challenge we
- 23:09Speaker 2: all have is that people have formed an opinion in
- 23:12Speaker 2: their head without getting educated first and say, well, I've
- 23:15Speaker 2: always been a Democrat. I can tell you what. If
- 23:18Speaker 2: you had been to my grandma Kelly's house after mass
- 23:20Speaker 2: on Sunday back in the late 50s, if you could
- 23:23Speaker 2: have found one Republican that made his way up onto
- 23:25Speaker 2: the porch and into that dining room, I would have
- 23:27Speaker 2: kissed him or her on the lips, not him on
- 23:30Speaker 2: the lips. And I mean this sincerely because that was
- 23:34Speaker 2: a different time. was a different time and when we're
- 23:37Speaker 2: looking at where we are today we have global challenges
- 23:39Speaker 2: that we've never had before we had them before we
- 23:42Speaker 2: didn't recognize them but the first responder anywhere in the
- 23:45Speaker 2: world when something goes wrong are the yanks we show
- 23:49Speaker 2: up first we stay the longest we make sure they're
- 23:51Speaker 2: safe before they we leave and i think we've got
- 23:53Speaker 2: to get back to that idea that we at first
- 23:55Speaker 2: we are americans first we represent different political parties yeah
- 23:59Speaker 2: that's fine i don't that's fine whatever it is it
- 24:01Speaker 2: is that you are um just make sure you understand
- 24:04Speaker 2: it's about policy And if we're legislators, let's concentrate on
- 24:08Speaker 2: the legislation and not what we think is an attractive
- 24:12Speaker 2: to a certain voter that is, well, they have feelings
- 24:17Speaker 2: about things, yeah, but have they actually read the legislation?
- 24:19Speaker 2: Most of the time, they haven't. They've just taken some
- 24:22Speaker 2: bits and pieces. After working all day, they come home,
- 24:24Speaker 2: they turned on the TV. Or for God's sake, please,
- 24:28Speaker 2: when you go out to eat with your kids, don't
- 24:30Speaker 2: let them have their cell phones out. We used to
- 24:32Speaker 2: eat together as a family and talk together as a family,
- 24:34Speaker 2: and the same thing happens at night. I tell my wife,
- 24:36Speaker 2: turn off the TV. We're eating dinner. We're eating dinner now.
- 24:39Speaker 2: I want to hear what Collins Day was. I want
- 24:41Speaker 2: to hear what the grandkids are going through. I don't
- 24:43Speaker 2: want to hear any of this stuff. These people sell advertising.
- 24:46Speaker 2: I don't need to hear from them. I already know
- 24:48Speaker 2: what I'm going to buy. When it comes to policy,
- 24:50Speaker 2: I'm going to work with anybody. I don't care. I
- 24:53Speaker 2: don't care what party they're from. If the policy is
- 24:55Speaker 2: in the best interest of the people I represent, that's
- 24:58Speaker 2: what I'm going to do. I get criticized for it
- 24:59Speaker 2: quite often. That's okay. I can handle that.
- 25:03Speaker 1: Congressman Mike Kelly, thank you so much.
- 25:05Speaker 2: Johnny, thank you. Thank you. It's great being with you.