Latest / SisterSmart Leadership / 26: What to Do When You Don't Feel Like You've Earned a Promotion (But Want One or Got One)
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- 0:00received your promotion recently or even years ago, have you ever felt
- 0:04like you didn't really deserve it?
- 0:06This is a common feeling that leaders have, and thankfully there are ways to
- 0:09are some things that you can do to feel more secure in the role that you have.
- 0:13Like you really deserve to be there.
- 0:15In this episode, we're going to talk about psychological hacks
- 0:18that you can use to overcome this feeling of not being good enough.
- 0:21This is something that almost every leader faces at some point in their career.
- 0:25So you're going to want to stay with us for this entire episode.
- 0:28While men certainly feel this way at times, the problem is bigger for women
- 0:31and underrepresented groups because this feeling of being an imposter can
- 0:36come from feeling like an outsider.
- 0:38And women often have to raise their hand to be considered for leadership positions.
- 0:42This can make them feel like they shouldn't have needed to do
- 0:45that, especially when their male counterparts might be selected
- 0:48without having to speak up at all.
- 0:49I'm Jill Avey, a career success coach, and this is Sister Smart Leadership, the
- 0:55show that explores how women can rise from director to vice president and beyond
- 0:59by fully leaning into their feminine energy as their biggest advantage.
- 1:03Let's get you one step closer to the recognition and promotion you deserve.
- 1:08Sister smart.
- 1:09Coach Sarah is here with me to discuss this important topic.
- 1:13So thanks for joining me, Sarah.
- 1:14no problem, Jill.
- 1:15I'm excited to be here.
- 1:16I think this is a great topic.
- 1:19It's really a good one cause it hits almost everybody.
- 1:21And one of the first things that I want to talk about is the upper limit problem.
- 1:25The upper limit problem is a phenomenon where we hit what we might have
- 1:32perceived in our own mind and our subconscious, this upper limit of how
- 1:36happy or how successful we can be.
- 1:39And sometimes I relate this to the fat set point that people
- 1:42talk about in weight loss.
- 1:44So you know how you're a certain weight, and then you get the flu and you lose 10
- 1:47pounds, and then you bounce right back up to that weight that you were before,
- 1:51because your body's used to being there.
- 1:52Our bodies want to be in homeostasis that they call it.
- 1:55We have These set points that we have where we're, it's
- 1:58our comfort zone basically.
- 2:00And so when we start to bump up against that ceiling of what we think we
- 2:04can accomplish and how successful we think we can be, sometimes that upper
- 2:09limit problem comes into play to start bringing us back down so that it's an ego
- 2:14protection thing where it's our body's system of how we keep ourselves safe.
- 2:18And so this upper limit problem is, something that you can see where
- 2:23maybe you have a big presentation and you have a couple extra drinks that
- 2:27night before because you're nervous and it kind of sabotages you because
- 2:32maybe you're not your best self.
- 2:33Maybe you're a little hung over even in the morning, or it can even happen where
- 2:37your body you can have a health problem.
- 2:39Like suddenly you get a cold or suddenly you get an illness and, one of our
- 2:44clients actually got a extreme attack of carpal tunnel right when she was about
- 2:50to start working on this big project that was really a stretch for her.
- 2:54And it took her out of her job for two full weeks.
- 2:57She couldn't do her job and they had to actually pass that job on.
- 3:00to somebody else to start it.
- 3:02And so she ended up missing out on that opportunity.
- 3:05And when we talked about the upper limit problem, after that happened, she
- 3:08could look back and see clearly that this is what was happening to her and
- 3:11she, it was such a big aha for her.
- 3:13So that was, it was kind of fun for her to see it happening so that she
- 3:17can watch for that in the future.
- 3:19So some of the things that we can do with upper limit problem is look
- 3:22at some of the what might come up.
- 3:24So one of the first feelings is feeling fundamentally flawed in some way.
- 3:29This can come up of like I can't expand on my full creative genius because
- 3:34there's something wrong with me.
- 3:35and that can be particularly strong if you faced adversity as a kid.
- 3:40This is some work that author and scholar Gay Hendricks is the
- 3:44one that developed this whole idea of the upper limit problem.
- 3:48And so he says that it happens because children have a smaller view of the world.
- 3:53And so we start to create stories around what happens.
- 3:57Let's say your parents got divorced.
- 3:58It's likely that you would attribute that to there's something wrong with you
- 4:02because we have this protection mechanism in our bodies from, a young age that we
- 4:07want to protect the people around us.
- 4:09We need to believe that our parents are perfect because we are 100 percent
- 4:13vulnerable to them taking care of us.
- 4:15And so we blame ourselves for the things that are going wrong or that
- 4:18we don't understand when we're kids.
- 4:20And so when we do this, these are subconscious beliefs
- 4:24that we hold well into.
- 4:25Adulthood, even through our entire adult lives until we start to really examine
- 4:29them and start to flip them around.
- 4:32The second feeling that you might have is like this disloyalty or abandonment.
- 4:36And sometimes this feels like if I succeed, I'm going to leave the
- 4:40people behind me, or I'm going to, be disloyal to my roots, or
- 4:44it'll cause me to feel all alone.
- 4:47And that can be tough for people who have risen up through income and class
- 4:50status, particularly for immigrants or people from, more humble beginnings.
- 4:55So sometimes family members might say Oh, aren't you too big for your britches?
- 5:00Or do you think you're something special or something like that?
- 5:03And it might really bring us down a notch and make us hesitant to be
- 5:07able to, push into more success.
- 5:09So the third hidden barrier is believing that more success brings a burden.
- 5:14And so the old belief can be that expanding to your full capacity and
- 5:19your success is just going to bring on a whole bunch of other problems.
- 5:23you know, like money problems or one common thing that I have heard a lot
- 5:28from our clients is they're worried that their husbands won't be happy
- 5:31with them if they are more successful, particularly if they outshine their
- 5:35husbands and become the breadwinner.
- 5:36And that can be one that is a huge hidden belief.
- 5:40And yet I challenge my clients to go and talk to their husbands and they've
- 5:44had some wonderful conversations where their husbands are like, no, go for it.
- 5:47I want you to be successful.
- 5:49This is one where that can kind of have a grip on you.
- 5:53And so you want to think about it's not going to be a bigger
- 5:56burden than where you are now.
- 5:57You'll be able to figure this out when you get there.
- 6:00And so sometimes this can happen to the youngest child in the family they may feel
- 6:05a burden for all kinds of reasons because the, the rest of the family is sort
- 6:09of moving on and they're still little.
- 6:10And that's one common place where Dr.
- 6:12Hendricks has mentioned that.
- 6:13And then the fourth and final one is hidden barrier number four.
- 6:17So this is, the crime of outshining.
- 6:20And so this is kind of, there's some ideas that, that people have is that I can't
- 6:25expand to my full success because if I did, I would outshine, this could be the
- 6:29husband or the family or your sister or whatever, this is common because women
- 6:35are socialized to not outshine others.
- 6:37And so this can be a real limit to us.
- 6:39And one of the things that, that has been noticed is that if you're really
- 6:43smart or pretty, that impact can be even greater because you may have had the
- 6:48experience of continually pulling yourself back so that you can fit in better.
- 6:53Thankfully, we also have a process that Hendrix gives us to use
- 6:57worry as a cue that you might be reaching your upper limit.
- 7:01And so one of the first things that you can start to challenge is if
- 7:05you notice yourself worrying about something and then think about how
- 7:09can I let go of these worry thoughts and shift your focus away from them
- 7:13and then just wonder what positive new thing is trying to come into being.
- 7:18Then you might get a body feeling when you start to wonder that and then you can kind
- 7:22of use that body feeling to focus on that more deeply and then see if there's some
- 7:27information there and try to feel it as deeply as you can for as long as you can.
- 7:32And then Sometime later, it doesn't even have to come up right then, but
- 7:35sometime later you might get this idea of what that positive thing
- 7:39that was trying to come through.
- 7:40And so that's a little overview of the upper limit problem.
- 7:43It's one of my favorite topics.
- 7:45And so I give you a little bit of background of where it might come from.
- 7:49And then this little bit of a meditation that we could do if we start to feel
- 7:52ourselves worrying about things.
- 7:54The next thing that can really be impacting us, In this kind of
- 7:58situation is imposter syndrome.
- 8:00So I'd like to hand it over to you, Sarah, to cover that topic.
- 8:03Great.
- 8:04thanks Jill.
- 8:04So I love how the upper limit problem aligns really well with imposter
- 8:08syndrome and it, there's a lot of similarities and I also refer to imposter
- 8:14syndrome as that inner critic, right?
- 8:16And so it's those beliefs and feelings that.
- 8:20We're not good enough.
- 8:21We're not doing enough.
- 8:23We start to feel a little bit like a fraud or phony in certain situations.
- 8:27And we start to really doubt our abilities.
- 8:30And I feel like this happens with men, but also, as you had mentioned,
- 8:34as women, we're socialized to, find harmony and to collaborate.
- 8:39And so when we start to perhaps shine a little bit more, that
- 8:43imposter syndrome can come in and it causes, negative thought patterns.
- 8:47And now these thought patterns, they want to keep us safe.
- 8:51They want to keep us in our comfort zone, that homeostasis.
- 8:55And so according to some of the work that we highlight in the Sister Smart
- 9:00program are our Accomplice Saboteurs.
- 9:03And we'll just start with the judge, for example and the judge, will notice that
- 9:08thought pattern when it starts to judge ourselves, it's judging other people,
- 9:12it's judging our circumstances, and so one thing that you had mentioned with
- 9:17the upper limit problem that aligns really well with this is, self awareness.
- 9:21So we've got to elevate our self awareness.
- 9:23So we even notice that these thought patterns are coming in, right?
- 9:27And so the judge will be like, why is she doing that?
- 9:30Or why are you doing that?
- 9:31So it creates a lot of negativity in our thought pattern.
- 9:35And then the judge also has these accomplice saboteurs, like
- 9:38for example, the stickler, the controller, or the Hyper Achiever.
- 9:43So those are three Accomplice saboteurs we talk about deeper in our program,
- 9:47but I'll just highlight them like for example the stickler wool It's a thought
- 9:52pattern that wants us to be perfect Right.
- 9:55We have to bring this perfectionism to the work that we do.
- 9:58And we know that as human beings we have challenges.
- 10:01And so we have to accept that our humanity is going to bring us challenges
- 10:06in our work and we're going to run into speed bumps that we didn't expect.
- 10:09And so, noticing when the stickler comes up, This isn't perfect enough.
- 10:13This wasn't good enough.
- 10:14So we'll hear those voices, right?
- 10:16So we want to just heighten our self awareness to who is talking because that
- 10:22will then lead to actions will lead to habits and behaviors that may not support
- 10:26us ultimately and where we want to go.
- 10:29and then I want to talk quickly about the Hyper Achiever,
- 10:32it has an identity that's tying our work and what we're accomplishing and
- 10:37doing to our identity, it causes us to look at failure, not as an opportunity,
- 10:43but as something like that can be magnified even larger than life.
- 10:47And so it.
- 10:48Causes us not to be in flow.
- 10:50So if we think about, the last few minutes of a basketball game, I
- 10:54mean, I grew up playing basketball, I was on the basketball team.
- 10:57And so if I was highly stressed at the end of the game and I needed to get that
- 11:01last shot, I'm going to miss it if I'm listening to the Hyper Achiever, right?
- 11:05Cause I'm not going to be in flow.
- 11:06I'm not going to be enjoying the game and what I'm actually getting from the game.
- 11:10So we do need to notice when we get into that mindset.
- 11:13And then the controller, now the controller wants to hold
- 11:17things close, do it all.
- 11:19They may not delegate it because people may not be doing it right.
- 11:22And we Think that we're going to get more from our team, but it actually
- 11:25creates less of what we want as a leader.
- 11:28you know, and this one shows up with a lot of people in leadership roles, because
- 11:32it's we've got to learn to trust our team and that we can delegate with our
- 11:36team because what will end up happening is our team will be more passive.
- 11:40We'll lose influence.
- 11:42And so it doesn't really create that environment of inspiration and innovation,
- 11:47and so I know in our program we talk a lot, how do we get
- 11:51out of imposter syndrome?
- 11:53How do we get out of all the self doubt and listening to these saboteurs?
- 11:58And what we do is we learn the principles of going from the saboteur
- 12:02thought pattern into the sage.
- 12:04So there's lots of tips, and I just want to leave you with a couple, well,
- 12:09one is just knowing that What they're telling us is trying to keep us safe.
- 12:13And as Jill mentioned, staying in homeostasis, staying
- 12:17inside of your comfort zone.
- 12:18Right.
- 12:18And just knowing that there are gifts and opportunities when we
- 12:22run into challenges and how can we.
- 12:26Look at challenges like that gift and opportunity.
- 12:29What are we learning from them?
- 12:31That's one great reframe.
- 12:34and also there's some meditation techniques and tactics that you
- 12:38can bring into your busy day.
- 12:39So that just really slows you down.
- 12:42And so you can notice like, who am I listening to and why.
- 12:47Why not listen to that more empowered creative, empathetic side, inside
- 12:53of our mind and start to look at these maybe failure points
- 12:57or challenges as more as gifts.
- 12:59and opportunities inside of them to grow.
- 13:02So by expanding our mindset and really being in a growth mindset and heightening
- 13:06our self awareness really helps you to think differently about your role and some
- 13:10of the challenges and also we don't need to listen to the lies that those saboteurs
- 13:17are telling us because we're starting to push up against our next growth edge
- 13:22and taking our role to the next limit.
- 13:25And so these are some techniques and tactics that will help you
- 13:29be more successful as you grow in your role and you're working with
- 13:32more people and perhaps having, new projects that you've haven't felt
- 13:37like you've experienced before.
- 13:39One of the other tips that I would love to add in here is that one of the
- 13:43things that helps me the most, I work with imposter syndrome a lot myself
- 13:46personally, actually, and one of the things that helps me the most is to
- 13:49think about who needs me to do this.
- 13:52So who am I serving in the work that I do and kind of re aligning with the mission
- 13:58of what I do and the vision of where I'm going and that can take me out of that
- 14:02mode so quickly and quiet down those saboteurs in that inner critic voice.
- 14:06So that's really helpful.
- 14:08And then one of the things that we talk about in the program, a framework
- 14:11that we use is called Crawl, Walk, Run.
- 14:13And it's something that I learned from the Navy SEALs.
- 14:16And so every time, if you feel a little paralyzed by the imposter, you can
- 14:20Think about, okay, how can I crawl here?
- 14:22And I got to tell you, that's gotten me through so many situations.
- 14:25And when I was developing our toughening your skin module, I was interviewing a
- 14:31woman who was a ultra marathoner And this is somebody who runs a hundred miles plus.
- 14:35Races on a regular basis.
- 14:36And so she would say, okay, what is this smallest step that I need to
- 14:40take when she started to hit the wall?
- 14:41And it just might be, having something to eat or having a drink or putting one more
- 14:45step, one more foot in front of the other.
- 14:47And so that kind of idea is really helpful because that momentum will really carry
- 14:53you through and it gets you started and kind of gets you out of your head.
- 14:56Yeah.
- 14:57I love that Jill.
- 14:58And one thing I want to add, you're reminding me of the David Goggins work.
- 15:02He's also a Navy SEAL and he talks about every success you can go back to.
- 15:08So being able to remember those past successes of crawling, walking,
- 15:13running, and that's just going to build your capacity to take on more.
- 15:18Oh, that's fantastic.
- 15:19But something that women don't do quite enough is really
- 15:21taking in their successes.
- 15:23And it's one of the things that holds us back from having the confidence that we
- 15:26could have, because we just, we tend to run onto the next thing and keep doing,
- 15:31and not maybe enough time to reflect.
- 15:34Yeah.
- 15:35I love that.
- 15:36you, Sarah, on this topic?
- 15:39I guess to, just to pause and to notice when you're being hijacked is great.
- 15:45So when you start to hear, the judge will be the first indicator.
- 15:49And the judge will be judging yourself, others, and your circumstances.
- 15:53So just know that's like the beginning.
- 15:56And so it may be an opportunity to pause there and take if you have
- 16:01some type of mindfulness practice.
- 16:02I know we do a lot of work on mindfulness in our program, but to pause and
- 16:07so you can redirect that thought pattern to something more creative and
- 16:13innovative and perhaps empathetic be more in that sage part of your mind.
- 16:17Fantastic.
- 16:18Such a great point.
- 16:19All right.
- 16:19And so we always like to leave you with three shifts that you can make today.
- 16:23So my first shift for you is to see if you can identify where you may have
- 16:28experienced the upper limit in your life.
- 16:31Can you think back to a time when you might've sabotaged yourself
- 16:34before something important without realizing that you were doing that?
- 16:37So that's your first shift.
- 16:39And then the second one is to consider that.
- 16:42that saboteurs contribute to imposter syndrome.
- 16:45And do you feel any relation to the four saboteurs that Sarah was talking
- 16:50about, the judge, the Hyper Achiever, the controller, or the stickler?
- 16:54That's our perfectionist.
- 16:56And yeah for that third shift, I would recommend we're so busy throughout the
- 17:00day, but take time to pause You know Maybe it's in the morning before you get out
- 17:06of your car before you log in the morning or when you're on your lunch Break, but
- 17:09take a moment to pause who has been in control For the beginning of the day is
- 17:15it one of our accomplice saboteurs, right?
- 17:18Judging you, judging others, judging your circumstances, or is it the ideal leader
- 17:24that you see yourself to be, someone who is connecting with others, empathizing,
- 17:30understanding, reframing challenges.
- 17:34And if you notice yourself being more on that side of the saboteur
- 17:38thoughts, use that as an indicator to take some time to pause.
- 17:42Do you have a mindfulness break?
- 17:44And give yourself that opportunity to reframe because we'll notice them when
- 17:48we're just feeling like that uncomfort.
- 17:50So I would use that as the third shift to practice.
- 17:53Beautiful.
- 17:54That noticing piece is so important.
- 17:56I'm so glad you added that.
- 17:57So if you are watching this on YouTube, let us know in the comments which
- 18:01of the things you can relate to.
- 18:03And check out the downloads area for an outline that will give you
- 18:08a cheat sheet for both things we talked about with the upper limit
- 18:12problem and the imposter syndrome.
- 18:13So you can jog your memory if you're feeling any of these
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