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"What a Year!" · Pod Save America

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Favreau.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Jon Lovett.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Priyanka Arabindi.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Travell Anderson.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Dan Pfeiffer.
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  Speaker 1: And we're here at the SiriusXM studios in Hollywood with
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  Speaker 1: a live audience.
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  Speaker 5: There it is.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 6: So spirited.
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  Speaker 1: For our annual What a Year special, we are happy
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  Speaker 1: to have Travell and Priyanka with us, two of the
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  Speaker 1: co-hosts of What a Day.
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  Speaker 7: Thanks for having us.
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  Speaker 1: It's good to have you guys.
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  Speaker 3: It's very legit in here.
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  Speaker 1: It is legit. That's what we like to think. We
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  Speaker 1: come here when it's time to do something legit. We
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  Speaker 1: come here for magic. We'll also be talking to Katie
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  Speaker 1: Porter later. And we are also taking a look back
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  Speaker 1: on the year in politics. We're going to share our
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  Speaker 1: New Year's resolutions and present our annual pundies for the
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  Speaker 1: absolute worst takes of 2022. But first, if you are
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  Speaker 1: looking for somewhere to donate this holiday season, we have
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  Speaker 1: a wonderful organization for you. World Central Kitchen is a
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  Speaker 1: nonprofit founded by Chef Jose Andres. That feeds people experiencing
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  Speaker 1: humanitarian crises all over the world. They've probably fed more
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  Speaker 1: people in Ukraine this year than most governments and relief organizations.
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  Speaker 1: It's a fantastic organization. To make a donation, you can
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  Speaker 1: visit WCK.org. So please go donate. All right. Let's start
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  Speaker 1: with a look back at 2022. Lots of news, lots
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  Speaker 1: of politics, lots of elections. But most of all, lots
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  Speaker 1: of takes. Some good, most bad. To get the conversation started,
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  Speaker 1: our producers have filled... This box next to Dan that
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  Speaker 1: you cannot see because it's an audio medium with some
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  Speaker 1: of the hottest, most debatable, and potentially most annoying takes
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  Speaker 1: of the year. Each of us will take turns picking
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  Speaker 1: one out, at which point we'll go around and say
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  Speaker 1: whether we agree or disagree and why. Healthy debate is encouraged,
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  Speaker 1: but civility is key.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, required.
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  Speaker 1: Civility is required. Dan, why don't you kick us off?
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  Speaker 8: All right.
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  Speaker 5: We're reaching into this magical box. The first take is
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  Speaker 5: a different state other than South Carolina should go first
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  Speaker 5: and then Democrats nominating calendar. And if you agree, which one?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I agree with that. Oh, wait, Dan, you're supposed
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  Speaker 2: to go first. Sorry, I got excited.
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  Speaker 1: We literally just practiced this 10 minutes ago.
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  Speaker 2: He's just sitting there. Jump in.
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  Speaker 5: I am fine with South Carolina. Oh, he's fine.
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: The DNC poobahs got to you too. Dan also rigged Iowa.
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  Speaker 5: Also, I'm here to announce I'm investing in an ABC
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  Speaker 5: affiliate in South Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: That's it? You're just okay? What does everyone else think
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  Speaker 1: about South Carolina?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to lie. I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Respectfully. Respectfully. Respectfully.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think it was a bad idea.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not convinced it's a good idea, but I'm not
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  Speaker 3: convinced it's a bad idea either.
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  Speaker 2: I was persuaded by Fazz's op-ed in the New York
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  Speaker 2: Times that basically said South Carolina is not a state
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  Speaker 2: Democrats are going to compete in in the general election.
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  Speaker 2: We should focus on states we can compete in and
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  Speaker 2: win if we're going to put a bunch of money
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  Speaker 2: into those places. And I thought the idea of going
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  Speaker 2: to North Carolina made a little bit more sense. But
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  Speaker 2: like Trayvon said, I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
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  Speaker 8: You know?
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  Speaker 4: I also am from South Carolina, so why not? Why
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  Speaker 4: can't I be first for once?
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  Speaker 1: You're from South Carolina. You don't have a stronger feeling?
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  Speaker 9: Hey, hey, hey.
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  Speaker 2: First in some pretty gruesome education statistics.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Well, normally we would say that's last. You know. But yes.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about this, but the people of
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina were pretty surprised that they got... I've chosen
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  Speaker 1: to go first.
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  Speaker 5: I know someone who wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 2: Jim Clower.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Nevada put in a bid to be first.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of think Nevada would have been a good
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  Speaker 1: first state.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, how great would that have been? Oh, I guess
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  Speaker 2: we have to go back to Vegas. I know.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. But I think Nevada is
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  Speaker 1: one of those states where, because it's such a competitive
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  Speaker 1: general election state, having a bunch of Democrats run around
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  Speaker 1: there campaigning in a primary would only help the infrastructure there.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you have a heavily Latino population there.
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  Speaker 1: You have a heavily non-college educated population there, which both
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  Speaker 1: voters that Democrats need in the general election. So I
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  Speaker 1: kind of, I think there's a good argument for Nevada.
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  Speaker 2: The good news is we're still going to go to
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  Speaker 2: Nevada early.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right.
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  Speaker 2: And it is the official crooked media position that Nevada
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  Speaker 2: is the most important state and the one that requires
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  Speaker 2: the most time and attention.
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  Speaker 1: From us.
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  Speaker 2: From us.
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  Speaker 1: We have a specific, yeah, we can help.
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  Speaker 2: We were campaigning for Dina Titus earlier. And she was like,
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  Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming here. It's like, it's
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  Speaker 2: a good idea for you to be in Las Vegas
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  Speaker 2: because that's why we care about your race the most.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm still drunk, by the way, Dina.
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  Speaker 1: All right. We did that one. Trevelle, you're next.
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  Speaker 4: All righty. Let's see what y'all got going on. In 2022,
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  Speaker 4: Democrats meddled in Republican primaries to boost MAGA candidates. It's
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  Speaker 4: a strategy that worked. and we should do it again
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  Speaker 4: in 2024. I would say that I would like people
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  Speaker 4: to stop playing games. And to, you know, because we
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  Speaker 4: ain't got to do all this complex strategy stuff. Don't
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  Speaker 4: be trying to, you know, play games behind the scenes
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  Speaker 4: because you think it's working, right? Because then what if
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  Speaker 4: it don't work, right? And I would say that it
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  Speaker 4: didn't work. Like there were just so many other things
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  Speaker 4: happening right now that were just like overpowering. And so
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  Speaker 4: it looks like it worked. I don't think it worked
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  Speaker 4: for real, for real. I think it worked.
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  Speaker 8: Not a high risk, high reward?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think it worked. Every candidate that the Democrats meddled
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  Speaker 1: to elevate lost and lost pretty big. Pretty big. Because
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  Speaker 1: they were fucking nuts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would also say when Democrats like meddle, it's
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  Speaker 2: like they lightly suggest Republicans vote for someone heinous and
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  Speaker 2: they wholeheartedly agree. And so it's like not like Democrats
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  Speaker 2: are going door to door putting guns to MAGA voters' heads.
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  Speaker 2: Like they're Pointing out that a Republican at one point
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  Speaker 2: accidentally did something reasonable and all of these Republican primary
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  Speaker 2: voters being like, well, that's unacceptable to me. So, and
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  Speaker 2: like the lotto, you know, you can't win if you
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  Speaker 2: don't play, you know? Yeah, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a high risk.
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  Speaker 3: Like you end up with someone really shitty if it backfires,
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  Speaker 3: but like very high reward.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we got somebody real shitty and we're all
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  Speaker 4: dealing with it.
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  Speaker 1: Who?
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  Speaker 4: Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Which one are you talking about? It's early on the
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  Speaker 2: show to go after Biden like that.
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  Speaker 5: Here's my take on this. I think there is no
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  Speaker 5: question that the more MAGA the candidate, the more likely
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  Speaker 5: they are to lose. I am not persuaded that any
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  Speaker 5: of the meddling that we did is why these candidates
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  Speaker 5: won the primary. The reason they won the primaries is
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  Speaker 5: because Republican voters, Republican primary voters, want MAGA candidates. And
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  Speaker 5: I don't know why we think this is the one
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  Speaker 5: time Democratic ads were super persuasive that they got these
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  Speaker 5: Republicans to do this.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good point, too.
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  Speaker 4: That's fair.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If we can control both the Republican and the Democratic primaries,
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  Speaker 1: then we'd be.
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  Speaker 2: We'd probably control the House.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Priyanka.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Next one. It's all you.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see. Oh, God. Woke is broke. Wow, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know you thought that. Tweet this out.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to clip Priyanka just saying Woke is Broke.
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  Speaker 8: God.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not going to do it to Katie Porter,
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  Speaker 3: but you're going to do it to me.
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  Speaker 10: Thanks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to say no.
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  Speaker 3: I don't agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a bad take.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's a bad take.
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  Speaker 1: Anyone want to talk about Woke is Broke? Yeah, anybody
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  Speaker 1: want to play the counter on that? I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think that if you wanted to actually analyze the silly
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  Speaker 1: Woke is Broke, comment that Trump makes all the time,
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  Speaker 1: which is why we had it in there. I think
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  Speaker 1: that there was a lot of noise made about, like,
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  Speaker 1: Democrats being too woke, culture wars. I think when you
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  Speaker 1: drill down in all of the data in the midterms, like,
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  Speaker 1: these issues just didn't sway people either way. Like, I
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  Speaker 1: think that people voted Republican primarily either because they were
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  Speaker 1: pissed about inflation or because they were hardcore Republicans anyway,
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  Speaker 1: or because... I don't know. Those were the top two issues.
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  Speaker 1: Those are the top reasons that people vote a Republican.
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  Speaker 1: And the idea that like these a lot of these
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  Speaker 1: culture war issues, they just didn't register that high on
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  Speaker 1: people's list of concerns when they actually went out to
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  Speaker 1: vote in the midterms.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was an example that sticks with me. I
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  Speaker 2: think it was in The Times where in one of
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  Speaker 2: the focus groups or some independent voter was asked about
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  Speaker 2: some ad that a Republican was running in Michigan that
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  Speaker 2: attacked trans people. around bathrooms, and the person that was
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  Speaker 2: asked about it laughed because it just wasn't an issue
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  Speaker 2: they cared about. We talk a lot about the information
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  Speaker 2: bubble that progressives are in, and I think the reason
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  Speaker 2: that gets covered more is because journalists are in here
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  Speaker 2: with us. But I do think there's about to be
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  Speaker 2: a big conversation about the Republican bubble that they're in
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  Speaker 2: and the conversations that they're having that make no sense
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  Speaker 2: outside of the bounds of their little cloistered world. Every
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  Speaker 2: Republican pundit has spent the last two weeks thinking that
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  Speaker 2: Elon Musk has exposed basically like a national treasure book
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  Speaker 2: of secrets worth of like magical information from deep within
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  Speaker 2: the bowels of Twitter emails when no one gives a
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  Speaker 2: fuck about what they're talking about. And it barely makes
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  Speaker 2: sense outside of this language that they've developed. So like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think what was broke. Well, yeah, that's the
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  Speaker 2: point that I'm making.
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  Speaker 1: It's sort of, it stuck with me when I started
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  Speaker 1: talking to these Biden voters who voted for Republican Glenn
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  Speaker 1: Youngkin in Virginia for governor. And obviously he like spent
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  Speaker 1: most of that campaign saying he's going to like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: get critical race theory out of our schools and blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 1: And so I asked them, is that one of the
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  Speaker 1: reasons why? And almost every single, actually every single Biden
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  Speaker 1: voter who voted for Glenn Youngkin said, oh, I actually
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  Speaker 1: completely disagree with him on the critical race theory thing
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  Speaker 1: and his education platform. I just voted for him because
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  Speaker 1: I didn't like Terry McAuliffe, was pissed about some grocery tax,
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: whatever else. So it not only didn't work, it was
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  Speaker 1: like they actually, people who voted for these Republicans who
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  Speaker 1: were talking about woke is broke actually didn't agree with them,
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  Speaker 1: at least in that case. Love it.
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  Speaker 2: We should no longer refer to Donald Trump as the
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  Speaker 2: presumptive frontrunner for the 2024 Republican nomination.
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  Speaker 1: This is a tough one.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know we had a formal ceremony where we decided, like,
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  Speaker 2: we stripped the title of presumptive.
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  Speaker 1: Right here. This is it. This is the ceremony.
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  Speaker 5: There's a real language problem with this entire question. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: because if you're calling him the frontrunner, you're presuming he's
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  Speaker 5: the frontrunner, and therefore he's a presumptive frontrunner, and so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, presumptive, you usually use presumptive with nominee. So we're
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  Speaker 1: getting tripped up on a word here. Yeah, let's just say.
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  Speaker 2: Is he the frontrunner?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump remains the frontrunner for the Republican nomination. There's
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  Speaker 2: been some ebbing in the polls, but he's obviously... And
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  Speaker 2: by the way, like, Of course he is. The only
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  Speaker 2: question is whether there can be somebody that pretends to
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  Speaker 2: be Trump enough without the baggage that Trump has in
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  Speaker 2: order to defeat Trump. I do not. Look, we'll see
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  Speaker 2: what happens. There's polls out in the last couple of
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  Speaker 2: days that show Ron DeSantis beating Donald Trump, but let's see,
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: two weeks of them having a conversation in public and
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  Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis' lack of personality and we're back in the
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: 2016 situation where everyone's like, oh no, no, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be Jeb Bush. Don't worry, these polls are stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Anyone think He's not the frontrunner?
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  Speaker 2: No, he's the frontrunner. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's two ways to look at being frontrunner.
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  Speaker 5: There is the person who leads in the polls early,
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  Speaker 5: which is a bad way of thinking about the frontrunner,
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  Speaker 5: because otherwise we'd have President Jeb Bush, President Joe Lieberman,
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  Speaker 5: President Rudy Giuliani, all those people.
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  Speaker 2: President Herman Cain. Yikes. What's that one with the gay husband?
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  Speaker 2: Michelle Bachman. Oh, I mean, husband. I said husband. Husband.
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  Speaker 2: The one that married woman from Minnesota. But you, I mean, Ron.
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  Speaker 5: DeSantis is basically just an idea right now. He has
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  Speaker 5: not spoken to a person. He may have no personality.
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  Speaker 5: He may have no charisma. We don't know if he
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  Speaker 5: can take a punch. There's all sorts of, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: Donald Trump, if you were to had to like, you
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  Speaker 5: bet your life on the Republican nominee right now, you
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  Speaker 5: had to pick one of those two people. You would
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  Speaker 5: be foolish not to pick Trump, I think.
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  Speaker 1: I have delighted in calling Donald Trump the Republican frontrunner.
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  Speaker 1: I do it every time we record one of these podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: I will say, though, that last couple of weeks, if
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  Speaker 1: you went by the polling average right now, I think
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  Speaker 1: he's not. I think it's DeSantis. There's now been three
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  Speaker 1: polls that showed DeSantis ahead, plus a lot of polls
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  Speaker 1: in the States. There's maybe one or two polls that
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  Speaker 1: showed Trump ahead. I agree that polls are not the
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  Speaker 1: only thing. indicator of this. You have to look at
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  Speaker 1: everything else.
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  Speaker 2: He's also had a... They haven't sort of clashed yet.
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  Speaker 2: I do think, like, Donald Trump has had among the
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  Speaker 2: worst couple of weeks he's ever had in public life.
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  Speaker 1: That includes when he incited a violent insurrection.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it includes everything. And so let's see what happens
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  Speaker 2: when people forget, because people have a good habit of
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  Speaker 2: forgetting what Donald Trump says and does.
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  Speaker 1: Alright, we're still calling him from her. We've decided.
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  Speaker 2: For now.
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  Speaker 1: Alright, I got a take. The 2022 Congress has proven
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  Speaker 1: that bipartisanship is alive and well.
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  Speaker 2: Say it's wrong. Say it's wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not technically wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. No labels over here.
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  Speaker 1: I was talking to my friend Kirsten Sinema the other day.
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  Speaker 1: On Joe Manchin's boat. And we were having this– I mean, look.
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  Speaker 2: Problem solvers caucus member.
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  Speaker 5: Gottheimer protege.
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  Speaker 1: Infrastructure bill. The COVID relief bill. The gay marriage and
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: interracial marriage protection bill that just passed last week.
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  Speaker 2: What else?
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  Speaker 1: There's a couple other ones. Electoral Count Reform Act might
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: get done. We're recording this a little bit early, so
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  Speaker 1: we don't know. There's been, I mean, there has legitimately
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  Speaker 1: been a bunch of bipartisan.
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  Speaker 5: The CHIPS Act.
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  Speaker 2: Don't forget that.
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  Speaker 1: The CHIPS Act. The CHIPS Act. Can anyone tell us
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: what the CHIPS Act is? Something about semiconductors in China?
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  Speaker 1: It's very important. It's great.
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  Speaker 2: It's important. It's really good.
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  Speaker 1: We're very happy about it.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you.
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  Speaker 3: Made the case for alive, but are we going to
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  Speaker 3: say well?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You want to hang on well? Yeah, I don't
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: think it's well.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was alive and well in 2022. I
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  Speaker 5: do not think it is alive and well in this
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  Speaker 5: next Congress.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's not the fucking take, Dan. It's a 2022 Congress.
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  Speaker 2: Taking it and spinning it forward.
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  Speaker 1: You want another one? Do we have time for more?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you have the watch.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's go.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a little time.
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  Speaker 2: You have the watch.
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  Speaker 1: We're on a roll.
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  Speaker 5: Despite all of our worries about Republican voter suppression efforts
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  Speaker 5: in Georgia, it did not work as evidenced by Senator
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  Speaker 5: Warnock's win.
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  Speaker 1: Lies.
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  Speaker 5: That's a bad take. That's a bad take. Winning in
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: spite of voter suppression does not mean voter suppression didn't happen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there were long lines.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say Kemp put six-foot walls around every ballot booth
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: in the state, and then we gave everybody ladders. We
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be like, the walls weren't a big deal. We
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: should probably leave them up.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: That's good. That's good. Absolutely.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: It worked, but we worked harder.
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: Here we go.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: If the Democratic Party had doled out their money more wisely,
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: they could have held the house that's.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: An interesting one if they had doled it out in
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: bribes to the new york supreme court yeah love.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: That edit that's a really good idea dan that's it
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: that's a tell the tissue james that's tomorrow that's tomorrow's
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: that's a message box waiting to happen what.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Do you think was it anyone is it a money situation.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think, right, what do they say? This
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: little saying is, you know, hindsight is 20-20. I think
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: there are examples where, you know, you could have took
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: a little money from this place and put it over here, right?
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: I think there are those examples. But I don't know
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: if I would say it was like a universal, like,
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: y'all did it wrong thing.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: I would say that that would be a better slip
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: after we dumped millions of dollars into a South Carolina
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Senate race that we lost by, what, 10% by a
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Kentucky race with Amy McGrath. I think we did not
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: invest as foolishly as we have in the past, but
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: there was a bunch of money that went into the
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Greene race. There's always a problem where there
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: are kind of celebrity races or like just places where
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: some money goes that we better spent elsewhere. But I
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: don't know that you can say more than that.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Dan, do you validate what I'm saying?
• 17:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: I don't think, yes, there are places that got a
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: ton of money that never should have gotten money. And
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: that's a problem with a lot of grifters in the
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: party pushing those things. We had a lot of that
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: in 2020. Some of that this time around, I don't,
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: You can probably find a handful of races where if
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: we had invested a little more money, we might have
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: gotten over the top. Probably the most notable one would
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: be the Lauren Bobert race in Colorado.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Bobert, like she's from fucking Paris.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: It's Bobert.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Her name is fucking Bobert. Wait a minute. She has
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: a gun-themed restaurant. Her name is Bobert.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: You want her to lose in that Republican plus 12 district?
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Call her French.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: Those races.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: We lost in New York.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: Are not for lack of money. Sean Patrick Maloney, the
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: chair of the DCCC, did not lose his race because
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: he didn't have enough money.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. Yeah. That's a good point.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I'm still getting fundraising emails from that guy. Stop.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: All right, Priyanka.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Democrats successfully made democracy a winning issue in 2022.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I would say, like, I mean, hmm.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Hmm.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: You know what you really want to say, but you
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: don't know if you can say it.
• 18:38
  Speaker 8: What?
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I actually don't know what that means. I would say,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: what's your take?
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I think it certainly made it, they made it an
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: issue for people who like probably voters who probably never
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: would have thought to care about it. Was it necessarily
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: what pushed them over the top?
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: But I do think like people showed up to the
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: polls and cared about democracy in a way where like,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know, in 2015, not 2015, because what elections
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: were there in 2015? Before that they probably would not
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: have showed up and cared so much about.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say Republicans successfully made democracy an issue
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: in the 2022 midterms.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: But, yeah. I think it was Democrats highlighting Republican extremism,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: which included running a bunch of election deniers, which has
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: to do with democracy.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: But also their position on abortion, which was extreme in
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: most cases as well. So I do think it's like...
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I think extremism probably... was the bigger factor than sort
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: of democracy as an abstract concept.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: It was a proof point.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: I guess also like race by race, though, like when
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: you're thinking of like secretary of state races, like that's
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: a much bigger issue for people who care about that.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I will.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: That is true.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: I was focusing on winning.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So in those races, yes. Well, and the good point
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: on those races is the secretary of state candidates where
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: there were election deniers on the Republican side and Democrats running,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the Democrats ran way ahead of even the other Democrats
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: on the ticket statewide. So it did happen. What did
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: you think Priyanka was going to say?
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: I don't think Democrats made democracy a winning issue. I
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: think that is a story we want to tell ourselves
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: to make ourselves feel better and to confirm our own
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: biases about what people should care about. And there's very
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: little evidence, I think, that democracy and protecting democracy drove votes.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: It was in almost no ads. No one voter like
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: candidates not communicate it. People cared about extremism and their
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: freedoms and the threats of these extremist candidates to their freedoms.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: I think there are some exceptions in the secretary of
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: state elector like election overseers, because that is a very
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: specific thing. That's sort of like someone running to be
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: state treasurer who doesn't believe in math. You're going to
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: be able to make that case.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: But I think there's a real danger that if we
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: tell ourselves that democracy is safe because there's a majority
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: that cares about democracy as.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: A driving issue. Everyone heard the Star Spangled Banner in
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: their head when they heard that.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: I think we're learning the wrong lessons and we will
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: have the wrong messages in 2024.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: That's good. Let's see what we got.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: More than any other demographic group, Gen Z is the
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: reason there was no red wave. Disagree. Sorry, Gen Z.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: That is not borne out by the facts. Wish it were.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Hope it would be. Isn't the case. Now, I feel
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: like there's an important distinction that is not being made enough.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Did Gen Z help make the difference in preventing Republicans
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: from winning some Senate races, from winning a bigger House majority?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Is that by dint of Gen Z showing
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: up in any kind of spectacular way?
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: No.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Is that because a lot of Gen Z did something
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: that required nothing of them, which is getting older? Yes.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: We need to draw a distinction between just the fact
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: that something that will continue to help us is that
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: people get old and die and young people age into
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: the voting population. In the same way Dan is saying
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: we shouldn't delude ourselves into believing people voted democracy, we
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: shouldn't delude ourselves into believing we had an incredible success
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: with Gen Z. I'm not saying that to denigrate Gen Z.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I'm saying that because we have to do a lot
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: more work to get more of Gen Z to turn out.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Because if you actually look at the numbers, what probably
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: made the biggest difference is the fact that millennials who
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: were became Democrats under Obama then got like a Donald
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Trump booster shot. are showing up in ways that previous
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: generations wouldn't.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: You got some millennials out there?
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Hey, where are my millennials at?
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: Huh?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Hey, you guys see girls? And we have to do
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: more work to get Gen Z to turn up. Do
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: not rest. Do not believe that Gen Z did something
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: amazing or impressive. They didn't. They're not showing up as
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: much as they could.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: They did better than... Thank you. So 2010 and 2014...
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: 18 to 29-year-olds, they weren't Gen Z then, but 18
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: to 29-year-olds in those two elections did not show up
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: in big numbers and the margin wasn't great. 2018, that
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: was the best year for 18 to 29, right? That
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: was the best midterm in the last, I don't know,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: 50 years. So in 2022, Gen Z did not turn
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: out at the rates that they did in 2018 and
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the margin was slightly worse than it was in 2018
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: as well. So if you just go midterm to midterm,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: they did a little bit worse.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: I like the fact that at any one time, there's
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: like four to five generations living in America, and Lovett's
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: currently at war with two of them.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no.
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: No, no, no.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I cannot do that. Don't have them go off on
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: the Gen Xers. You know like the Defense Department does
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: the Quaternario Defense Review where they have to be able
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: to defeat one army and hold off another? I cannot
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: declare war on two generations at once. I don't have
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: the power. I won't be able to sustain it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: All right, I'll do the last take. Did you want
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: to say one more thing?
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I'll just say one thing.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: One more negative thing about Gen Z. About an entire
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: generation of people.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I will say this. Gen X's decision to make their
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: whole personality whatever did not serve them well in terms
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: of not ever having electoral politically, like getting elected anywhere
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: at any time or really being involved.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: As a spokesperson for Gen X, I agree.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: And I blame singles.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wasn't good.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: All right, last take. Joe Biden's ultra MAGA was ultimately
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a winning message in 2022. Look, the words ultra MAGA,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I think if you pulled a bunch of people, I
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: don't know if anyone would have known that he said that.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: What are we talking about?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I think Joe Biden's effort to highlight Republican extremism, which
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: he carried through most of 2022 and most other Democrats did.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I think I do think that was a winning message
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: to Dan's point. I don't know if ultra MAGA was.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I do think there was like MAGA specifically labeling Republicans
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: who were Trump supporters MAGA Republicans. it was borne out
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: by the research that that actually did have an effect
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: on people that when you call, when you labeled the
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: MAGA Republicans, they had a less of a favorable view
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: towards them. So I do think that helped. Anyone want
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: to disagree? No.
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Now it's time to recognize some of the year's worst
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: takes with our very first Pundi award of the evening. Exciting. Exciting. Uh,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: so the category is worst 2022 midterm prediction. And here
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: to present is none other, and Crooked's chief take officer,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Elijah Cohn. Elijah, take it away.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Elijah does have a tux on.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: For those listening at home, he did do a... For
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: the overwhelming majority of you. Do a jump scare of
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: wearing a tux.
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: This is my Oscars, folks.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: I'm so excited to present to you our first pundi
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: of the night. Here are the nominees for Worst 2022
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: Midterm Prediction. Loaded field, guys. Nominee number one, Clay Travis,
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: who is Giancarlo and my former coworker from Fox Sports.
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: On September 14th, Clay Travis wrote, Carrie Lake is now
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: favored in gambling odds to be elected governor of Arizona
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: for the first time in her campaign. I told you
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: all my underdog parlay of, Kerry Lake, Herschel Walker, and Dr.
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: Oz was going to hit. All three are going to win.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't get the exact box on that one.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: Next up, we have Josh Holmes, a Republican podcaster. On
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: November 9th, John Ralston from Nevada shared a ballot dump
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: that led Holmes to write the following. Barring something statistically unforeseeable,
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: it's all over but the crying here. Laxalt is going
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: to win this. Tough for our friend Josh Holmes. Next up,
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: we have Elon Musk. In June, Elon Musk shared that
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: he was voting Republican for the first time and predicted, quote,
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: massive red wave in 2022. That did not happen, and
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: it actually came out today that, as of this recording,
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: there is no evidence that Elon actually voted in November.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: That's true.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Love that.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: And finally.
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: We have Hotline Josh, Josh Crashour, who wrote a big
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: midterm preview for Axios on November 2nd. Josh wrote, Extreme
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: or unprepared Republican nominees may not be as big a
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: liability as they once seemed. With the growing possibility of
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: a red wave, it's possible some flawed MAGA-aligned candidates could
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: win despite their political struggles. Keep a close eye on
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: Blake Masters in Arizona and Don Balduck in New Hampshire.
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: And those are your nominees for this 2022 Midterm Prediction.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I should clap for those. I
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: want to start by saying this. I don't begrudge anyone
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: making outlandish predictions. Anybody willing to kind of put on
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: the overalls and get their pick and go down into
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: the fucking prediction mines to somebody I respect. We stopped
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: doing it because we were bad at it.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: That's why we get to mock them now. I understand that.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: This is the whole reason we did that.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I know, but it's there but for the grace, you know?
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Keep going.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: You started off and I thought Clay Travis has this,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: but Hotline Josh, that was pretty broad and sweeping.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I would say this. I think what Holmes did is
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: actually very impressive because it's rare to incorrectly predict the
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: outcome of an election after the election. You know, that's
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: harder to do.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he's like supposed to be a data guy too.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: So he should have known.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: Look, he is a man who has made himself quite
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: wealthy based on the credential of reelecting Mitch McConnell in
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: the most Republican state in the country. So who are
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: we to doubt his genius?
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: No one's saying Elon, but isn't it kind of fun
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: to hear Elon sound so fucking dumb? Yeah, that was
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: pretty dumb.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: That was pretty dumb.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: One little detail about that Elon thing is on that
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: same thread, he went on to say, I'm thinking of
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: creating a moderate super PAC that supports candidates with centrist
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: views from all parties. Just a fun little detail.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: Look, they were all wrong. They were all kind of
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: equally wrong.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: Clay Travis is kind of like a C-list sports commentator.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: I think we should talk more about political gambling one day.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: So what does he really know? Axios Josh or Hotline
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: Josh or Defunct Publication Josh, whatever it is we call him,
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: he's really only reporting what people are telling him. And
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: now it always confirms with his deeply held views that
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Republicans always win elections. But a lot of other reporters
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: also said that. And Democrats, a lot of Democratic operatives
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: and pollsters told people the same thing.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Dan's zeroing in on Josh Holmes.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: I'm zeroing in on Josh Holmes. That's his job. His job,
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: he gets paid. to tell people who is going to
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: win and lose.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: He gets paid to spend Super PAC money.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: He got all of them wrong. Because you had to
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: pick from a plethora of Josh Holmes takes. He said
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: the same thing about Dr.
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: Oz.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: He said the same thing about Blake Master. He said
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: the same thing about Kerry Lake. All across the board,
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: he was wrong.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I'm persuaded. I'm a persuasion guy, as you know. I'm persuaded.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I'm persuaded.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me. And
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I just want to say that, like, that doesn't mean
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: that Josh Holmes isn't really good at his job and
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: should continue to be supported in his work because he's
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: doing such a good job.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Keep hiring Josh Holmes. Josh Holmes. That's our winner. I
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: don't know if Elijah does anything. Do you have an award?
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: No?
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: There'll be a post-pod trophy ceremony.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Thank God.
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: Great.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Elijah.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: When we come back, we will face off in the
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: ultimate game of 2022 trivia. Okay, we're back and we're
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: ready to test how much we remember about whatever happened
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: in 2022. Travelle and Priyanka are sticking around to play.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Love it. Take it away.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: As 2022 draws to a close, it seems important to
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: pay homage to all the news our brains have already
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: begun shoveling out. to make room for 2023. Remember West
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Elm Caleb? Doja Cat bringing back the Mexican pizza? That
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: time Adam Levine asked his mistress if he could name
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: his unborn child after her?
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: I sure don't.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: How can we forget? And you probably don't either, but
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: we're about to prove it definitively with a 2022 review
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: game we're calling Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again. A
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: trip down memory hole lane. Sure. Why not?
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: Why not?
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: As a warning, this is a drinking game, so get
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: your question wrong. You are ethically obligated to drink. Are
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: you ready? Yeah. Are you ready?
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're ready.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Priyanka and John are going to play against Travelle and Dan.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: John and Priyanka, here we go. Who is this woman,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: and why do you know her? What's her name?
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Julia Vox?
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: Julia Vox.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in the box.
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: I mean, I was Josh Safdie's muse when he wrote
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: Uncut Jams.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: Uncut Jams.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Uncut Jams.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Uncut Jams.
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: Uncut Jams.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: Did we have to say that part?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: No, you're good.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, good.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: You got it.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Perfect.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: What was that? Is there no dings?
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, if they don't know who that is, I feel
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: like we were the underdogs going in.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: I don't think you're the underdogs. Oh.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you're the end of that. I
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: think Travelle's basically alone in this.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Well, hopefully we don't get what y'all just showed because
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know who that was. I've never seen that
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: a day in my life. I don't think that crossed
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: the racial barrier onto my side of the internet.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just saying. Okay, keep going.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: What musical performance did Matt Walsh say was desecrating American
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: history just for the sake of it? Wow.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: Was it Lizzo?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: With the flute.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Who's flute?
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: You got to get it. You got to tell me
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: who's flute. It was who you're pointing at. Who you're
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: pointing toward the past at. Who you're pointing back in
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: time at. You got to get who the flute is.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: You got to get it.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, you have to get who the flute is?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: If you guys can steal it, if you know who
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: the flute is.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, James Madison.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Boom. Sorry.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: Was it James Madison or Dolly Madison's flute?
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: It was James Madison's crystal flute.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: James Madison.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Back over to Priyanka and John. At the 2022 Oscars,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: what movie swept best adapted screenplay, best supporting actor, and
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: best picture?
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: That's a Travell question.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Wait.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: You got it? What? You don't have to whisper. Oh, maybe.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: I have no idea.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: What do you want to guess? What do you want
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: to guess? You got to give me something.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Do you want to put it in?
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Throw it in.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: What was it called?
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, it was called King Richard.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, was it King Richard?
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: No.
• 33:50
  Speaker 11: Go.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: It was Coda. You got it. Period.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Everyone gets that.
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: Coda.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I was going to.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Say Top Gun Maverick.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: That's this year.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: That would be for this year. Top Gun Maverick is
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: going to be the best picture this year. All right,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Travelle and Dan, what was the absolutely adorable child describing
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: in a song that went crazy on TikTok in August
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: with the lyrics, it's a big lump with noms. It
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: has the juice. I can't imagine a more beautiful thing. Corn.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: It was. It was corn.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: You lost me at TikTok.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Did you not know that?
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Dan Wild.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I had no idea.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I just want to understand how broken my brain is.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: If you knew it was corn, raise your hand. If
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: you didn't, be honest.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: He's got a Chipotle commercial and everything.
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: Ben.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: What's your excuse?
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I know Ben's excuse. What's your excuse? Let's keep going.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Who got that right?
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: I did.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: John and Priyanka. Which one of these was not a
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: disgusting viral TikTok food trend from 2022? Which was not
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: a trend? A. Pink sauce. B, healthy Pepsi. C, chicken
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: and grapes. D, butterboards. Which one was not a trend? Okay,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: butterboards definitely were a thing. That was a thing?
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: I haven't heard of it, so okay.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Did you know the other ones?
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Healthy Pepsi sounds crazy. And then what was the third one?
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: It was chicken and grapes. Chicken and grapes. It was
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: chicken and grapes. I feel like chicken and grapes could
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: be one.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Healthy Pepsi, like who?
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I'm going to need an answer.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Healthy Pepsi.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Nope, that happened.
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: What?
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: And it was a segment on Lowly. Thanks for listening.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Do you have any idea? The answer, wait. Do we
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: get to guess? Yeah, you can guess.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: Is it chicken and grapes?
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: You got it.
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: Oh.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Close. Travelle and Dan, which one of these was not
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: an actual bit of drama that emerged from this year's
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: eternal don't worry darling press cycle?
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Okay. Which one of these was not a bit of drama? A.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Olivia Wilde allegedly made her special salad dressing for Harry
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Styles a clear sign of seduction that resulted in a
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: fight with then-husband Jason Sudeikis. B. Shia LaBeouf was replaced
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: by Harry Styles. How do you say it? He revealed
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: the film's original twist ending that the entire movie takes
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: place in Florence Pugh's coma dream. C, Olivia Wilde and
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Florence Pugh allegedly bumped heads on set over Wilde's directorial style.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Or D, Harry Styles appeared to spit in Chris Pine's lap. E,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Jason Sudeikis allegedly laid down in front of Olivia Wilde's
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: car to prevent her from leaving him for, you guessed it,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Harry Styles. Which one?
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: Is all of the above an option?
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: No.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: One of them isn't real. One of them isn't real.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: And I did drop one on the floor, so they
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: will not be repeated.
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: Choose a letter.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: I don't even remember which was which. Is it... Is
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: it the Shia LaBeouf thing?
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Is that real?
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: Um.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Um.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, the salad.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: Or is it the salad dressing?
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: The salad dressing thing sounded bonkers. But, you know, again,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: I'm going to lean on you because... I think you
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: will know better than I.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: These ain't my people.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: Let's go with the salad dressing.
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: No.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: Shia LaBeouf. Wait, what did they guess?
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: They were so disappointed in us. We think it's the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Jason Steggis lying in front of the car.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: No, that happened.
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: What?
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: It's the direction.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: No, it's the Shia LaBeouf one. Shia LaBeouf was fired,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: but not for claiming, for not telling the ending.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's sort of.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: You got it. All right. I want to guess that.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I'm giving it to no one.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's tough for Jason Sudeikis.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: John and Priyanka, please name three items from Dr. Oz's
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: crudite platter.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: Guacamole.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Guacamole. That's one. Asparagus.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: That's two.
• 37:53
  Speaker 8: And.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Is it like a full length carrot? Like not a
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: baby carrot? I think they had a full. You got it. Yeah?
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Asparagus, broccoli, carrots, pre-made guacamole, salsa.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: And or tequila. Salsa.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Salsa. Disgusting. Travelle and Dan, which of the following statements
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: made on Twitter did not cause an unstoppable explosion of
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: discourse and rage? A, writers should read. B, I like
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: drinking coffee with my husband. C, I might make my
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: neighbors chili. Or D, all of the above. D, all
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: of the above. That's correct. They all did. Those are
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: all things that made people upset.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Choices.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's so much discourse about this. I've literally
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: texted with Jon Favreau about all of these in the
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: last 48 hours.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I did a whole interview about an offline about this
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: topic today.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: And you can all listen to that. When that comes out,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: and we all know when Offline comes out.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: The healthy Pepsi segment. Remember that. All right.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Travelle and Dan, this celebrity worm costume mulched every other
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Halloween costume this year. Who is this? This is a
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: celebrity inside of that worm. Dan, Travelle, who is it?
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Let me have it. I think it's Heidi Klum.
• 39:17
  Speaker 11: Go.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Heidi Klum. You bet.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Isn't that wild? Isn't that wild?
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: She always does the most for Halloween.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: That's cool. That's a really good one, though. Was it?
• 39:29
  Speaker 10: Like, how does she even stand?
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Like, what do you do when you get to the party?
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: You do the press, and then you go home. All right. Priyanka, John,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: which one of the Try Guys cheated and was essentially
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: exiled from society?
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: Priyanka.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Specifically the part of society where he was a try guy. Zach, Eugene, Keith,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: or Ned? Ned.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: It was Ned.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: It was this person named Ned. Yes.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I was going to say Ned.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: It was a man named Ned. Now he's a bi guy.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Like goodbye guy.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Not bisexual. He might be, but that's not what I meant.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Final question for Travelle and Dan. 2022 opened with the
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: emergence of a new star. a non-binary comedian unleashed into
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: the and-just-like-that universe to bust up Miranda's marriage and ask
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: the world, what is a comedy concert? I ask you,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: what is that character's name?
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Che.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Che what?
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, come on now.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Gotta know the full name. Can I steal it?
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Is it like, I don't wanna, is it Diaz?
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Che Diaz.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 40:37
  Speaker 10: Ah.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Ah. I have to say, I think you all did
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: really well.
• 40:43
  Speaker 12: But.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: No, it's a tie. You both won. A tie?
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to give it to Travelle and Dan.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I'm going to give it to
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Travelle and Dan.
• 40:50
  Speaker 13: Thank you so much.
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Because he attacked the notion of a tie. Thank you
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: so much. Attacked the notion of a tie.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Priyanka really carried us, I will say. She did. Thank you.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: No, but you got me on the ones that I
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: was like, what are we talking about?
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Thanks for playing.
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: Thank you.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: We're a good team.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: We're a good team.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: All right. It's time for our next Pundi. And to
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: present the award for Worst Conservative Outrage. Please welcome Cricket producer,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Olivia Martinez.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: What's up?
• 41:17
  Speaker 9: First off, give it up for my co-producer, Haley, holding
• 41:20
  Speaker 9: it down in the booth. Haley rocks. I realize we
• 41:25
  Speaker 9: have some first-time players, I think, to the take appreciators.
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: This is where we appreciate takes like fine wine. And
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: this is our beefed-up edition where we admire some of
• 41:35
  Speaker 9: the best of the year. So we're picking... Who has
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: the best, most artful take? And I'm here to present
• 41:42
  Speaker 9: the nominees for this year's worst conservative outrage. All right,
• 41:46
  Speaker 9: your first nominee is stupid son of a bitch. During
• 41:49
  Speaker 9: a press conference, President Biden was caught on a hot
• 41:52
  Speaker 9: mic calling Fox News reporter Pierre Ducey a stupid son
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: of a bitch. Although Biden called Ducey personally to apologize
• 42:01
  Speaker 9: and Ducey himself was not offended, that did not stop
• 42:05
  Speaker 9: conservative media from clutching their pearls. Meghan McCain tweeted, this
• 42:09
  Speaker 9: is no better than how the Trump administration treated the press,
• 42:12
  Speaker 9: and it's gross. Does anyone remember what Tucker Carlson said
• 42:16
  Speaker 9: about this? No.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: No.
• 42:18
  Speaker 9: He called Biden a nasty old man. Any reactions to that?
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Most of that sentence is hard to argue with.
• 42:29
  Speaker 9: All right, your next nominee is Black Little Mermaid.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 42:34
  Speaker 9: Disney released the trailer of its new live-action Little Mermaid
• 42:37
  Speaker 9: starring Halle Bailey as Ariel. It prompted a lot of
• 42:41
  Speaker 9: sweet videos on TikTok of parents showing their kids the trailer,
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: but Daily Wire host and transphobic troll Matt Walsh had
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: a different take, claiming a black mermaid just wasn't scientifically accurate.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 42:54
  Speaker 9: Here's his full quote. With the Little Mermaid, can we
• 42:57
  Speaker 9: just mention that from a scientific perspective, it doesn't make
• 43:02
  Speaker 9: a lot of sense to have someone with darker skin
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: who lives deep in the ocean. If anything, not only
• 43:08
  Speaker 9: should the Little Mermaid be pale, she should actually be translucent.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: What? Wow. I just think it's cool that they would
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: rather the Little Mermaid be played by a fucking invisible
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: clear monster than a black person.
• 43:26
  Speaker 9: A lot of people reminded him that black fish exist
• 43:29
  Speaker 9: in the ocean. Like, scientifically, it is very accurate.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I have to say, I don't... Tough way to get
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: to that point.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I just think that, like, if you're on Twitter tweeting,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: stop erasing black fish, you've already lost.
• 43:38
  Speaker 12: Guilty.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: All right. In a sense.
• 43:44
  Speaker 9: Your next nominee is litter boxes in schools.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: During a random October luncheon with voters, Representative Lauren Beaubay...
• 43:54
  Speaker 9: randomly claimed that teachers are putting litter boxes in schools
• 43:57
  Speaker 9: for people who identify as cats. Scott Jensen, who ran
• 44:02
  Speaker 9: for governor of Minnesota and lost, added that litter boxes
• 44:05
  Speaker 9: were for kids who, quote, identify as a furry. These
• 44:09
  Speaker 9: claims were echoed by over 20 Republican candidates or elected
• 44:13
  Speaker 9: officials this year, with many calling it a growing crisis,
• 44:16
  Speaker 9: and it even reached an episode of Joe Rogan with
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: Tulsi Gabbard. However, an NBC investigation found that every accused
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: school was not in fact providing litter boxes to little furries.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Any reaction? That's a fun couple of calls that reporter
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: had to make.
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: It's a lot like what my job is. All right,
• 44:39
  Speaker 9: your final nominee is Drag Queen Story Hour. The Republican
• 44:43
  Speaker 9: campaign against the LGBTQ community took a turn this year
• 44:47
  Speaker 9: when videos of all age Drag Queen Story Hours went viral,
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: prompting Florida Governor Ron DeSantis to call it child endangerment
• 44:54
  Speaker 9: and five Proud Boys to storm a story hour in
• 44:57
  Speaker 9: San Lorenzo, California. Carrie Lake and Libs of TikTok also
• 45:01
  Speaker 9: claim that drag queens groom children, but do you want
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: to know the kicker? Does anyone remember the kicker to
• 45:06
  Speaker 9: the story?
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I'm afraid.
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: A drag queen came forward to say she performed at
• 45:12
  Speaker 9: Carrie Lake's house for her birthday party and there were
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: children present.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I forgot about that.
• 45:20
  Speaker 9: Those are your four nominees for the best moments of
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: conservative outrage this year.
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: I just want to say a couple things. One, Olivia,
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: you delivered that One, thank you. Perfectly. Two, I think
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: we should take a video recording of what you just
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: said and put it in a time capsule to completely
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: understand this era in American politics.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I think we should separate out the, like, the first
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: couple are silly and dispensed with. I feel like we
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: have to split out the ongoing effort to attack drag shows.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Because I feel like that's not That doesn't have the
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: essence of the pundi, which is for outrageous thing that
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: can be tamped down. Because, you know... It's just bigotry.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: It's just bigotry.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: Pure, dangerous bigotry.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, if you're going with
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: pure impact and how big of a deal it is
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: that they... the conservative outreach was so bad, you definitely
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: go with the drag queen story.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: But if we're judging this on the.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: The pure ridiculousness of the take, I have to go
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: with Black Little Mermaid just because that, I mean, there's
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: nothing more ridiculous than that.
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: For sure. If we are appreciating the take in the
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: vein of Take Appreciator, then it's gotta be Black Little Mermaid.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I think it has to be Black Little Mermaid.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: All right, we have consensus. Shout out to Black Little Mermaid.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. All right, Black Little Mermaid!
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: That's tough. That's tough.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Olivia. Thank you, Olivia.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: And thank you, Travelle and Priyanka, for joining us. When
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: we come back, we'll talk to Congresswoman Katie Porter. Joining
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: us now is one of my favorite members of Congress,
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  Speaker 1: even though she's made it quite clear that her favorite
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  Speaker 1: Parade Save America host is not me. The newly reelected
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  Speaker 1: representative from California's 47th District, Katie Porter. Okay, so you're
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  Speaker 1: a progressive who just won one of the country's most
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  Speaker 1: competitive house races for the third time in a row,
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  Speaker 1: this time by just 9,000 votes out of more than
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  Speaker 1: a quarter million votes cast. What lessons did you learn
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  Speaker 1: from this last campaign? What worked, what didn't? What surprised you?
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  Speaker 8: Well, I think the.
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  Speaker 13: Most important lesson is that you have to do the work.
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  Speaker 13: You can have a lot of money, you can have
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  Speaker 13: a lot of good ideas, but you have to build
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  Speaker 13: the team and do the work on the ground. You
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  Speaker 13: have to knock the doors, you have to have the conversations.
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  Speaker 13: You have to be present in your community. I think
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  Speaker 13: one of our biggest challenges in this race was that
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  Speaker 13: 70% of the voters were new.
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  Speaker 8: I don't currently represent them.
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  Speaker 13: And yet at the end of the day, we outperformed
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  Speaker 13: every other Democrat on the ballot, including people who had
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  Speaker 13: been incumbents and statewide.
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  Speaker 8: So I'm really proud of our outcome.
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  Speaker 1: I saw that House Democrats decided to create a new
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  Speaker 1: position of battleground leadership representative so that future candidates in
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  Speaker 1: tough districts like yours have a voice in leadership. What
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  Speaker 1: do you think about that?
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  Speaker 8: It's a terrific idea. I supported it.
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  Speaker 13: We elected Abigail Spanberger, my colleague from Virginia, to serve.
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  Speaker 8: In that role. I think it's really, really important.
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  Speaker 13: We need to hear from the entirety of the Democratic caucus.
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  Speaker 13: And let's face it, being a candidate in a competitive
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  Speaker 13: district takes a lot of time. I just explained you
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  Speaker 13: got to do the work. That means you have to
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  Speaker 13: connect with the community. You have to fundraise. You have
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  Speaker 13: to do the things about being a candidate. What this
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  Speaker 13: means is you don't always get included or invited to
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  Speaker 13: be at the leadership table about what bills we're bringing
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  Speaker 13: to the floor, about what issues we're prioritizing. Yet that's
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  Speaker 13: exactly the people who are on the front lines who
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  Speaker 13: are having these conversations. We know exactly what the American
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  Speaker 13: people need, what they want, what's going to take for
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  Speaker 13: us to deliver for them and win future elections.
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  Speaker 2: I like the idea that the battleground representative at these
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  Speaker 2: meetings shows up and everybody else is in like suits
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  Speaker 2: and ties and fancy clothes. And the battle guards are
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  Speaker 2: just like bleeding from them, covered in dirt. Eye black.
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  Speaker 2: Eye black. You don't know what it's fucking like out there.
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  Speaker 8: Well, if you know Abigail Spanberger, that's pretty much her vibe.
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  Speaker 2: A little better for it.
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  Speaker 11: I am drop.
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  Speaker 8: Or die with Abigail Spanberger. She was in the CIA.
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  Speaker 8: She is a train killer.
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  Speaker 13: And I think that we need some of that perspective
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  Speaker 13: in Washington. Look, when Congress takes a district work period
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  Speaker 13: and people go home, If you're in a battleground seat
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  Speaker 13: like me, you are on the next plane out of
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  Speaker 13: Washington and the very next, even sometimes the same day,
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  Speaker 13: the next day you're out, you're in your community, you're
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  Speaker 13: connecting with people, you're.
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  Speaker 8: Learning about businesses, you're shaking hands, you're listening, you're teaching.
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  Speaker 13: And some of our other colleagues don't. They stay in Washington.
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  Speaker 13: They don't have competitive races. And we see this right
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  Speaker 13: now with our committee chairs. The typical person who's a
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  Speaker 13: committee chair in the Democratic caucus is 73 years old,
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  Speaker 13: and won their district by 36 points.
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  Speaker 8: 36 points.
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  Speaker 13: And so those are the people who are drafting the
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  Speaker 13: bills and making decisions about what issues get heard, what
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  Speaker 13: hearings get held, what.
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  Speaker 8: Bills get moved on the floor. We need the voices.
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  Speaker 13: Of the entire caucus, including those of us in tough
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  Speaker 13: battleground seats.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, you know, there's been this
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  Speaker 1: debate about like, why did Democrats do better than expected
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  Speaker 1: in these midterms? Was it Republican extremism? Was it Dobbs?
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  Speaker 1: Was it democracy? You know, you were in a battleground district.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, and yes.
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  Speaker 1: You thought all of the above?
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  Speaker 8: All those things played a role.
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  Speaker 13: But let's be clear, we overperformed in some areas where
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  Speaker 13: we've traditionally had challenges. And I think that things like
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  Speaker 13: Dobbs and extremism were a big part of that. In
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  Speaker 13: some states, particularly blue states, New York, California, being two
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  Speaker 13: prime examples, we underperformed.
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  Speaker 8: And so I think some of.
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  Speaker 13: That reflects that We need to make sure that we
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  Speaker 13: have messages that work in every part and pocket of
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  Speaker 13: the country where we're running. And so I talked every
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  Speaker 13: single day on my campaign about inflation and about the
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  Speaker 13: economy because.
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  Speaker 8: It was on my mind as a parent, as a
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  Speaker 8: resident of Orange County, as a Californian.
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  Speaker 13: It was on my mind every time I walked into
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  Speaker 13: the grocery store, drove past a gas station, and I
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  Speaker 13: know it's on the mind of voters too. So I'm
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  Speaker 13: really proud of what we accomplished. But I also think
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  Speaker 13: there are lessons to learn about what we need to
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  Speaker 13: accomplish going forward. Democrats deliver on the economy. It's true. Statistically,
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  Speaker 13: it's demonstrably true. So we should be talking about that
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  Speaker 13: at every single opportunity, helping people understand that we not
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  Speaker 13: only stand for their civil rights, we also stand for
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  Speaker 13: economic prosperity and abundance.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think Democrats did not talk enough about their
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  Speaker 5: accomplishments in the 2022 Congress?
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  Speaker 8: You know, we always go back.
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  Speaker 13: And forth about this, like we should talk more, we
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  Speaker 13: should toot our own horn, we should talk more about
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  Speaker 13: our accomplishments.
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  Speaker 8: I don't think it's a quantity problem. I think it's
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  Speaker 8: a quality problem, I'll just be honest.
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  Speaker 13: It doesn't do any good to put out tweets to
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  Speaker 13: your 37 followers about that you were one of 219
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  Speaker 13: people to vote on a bill.
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  Speaker 8: That's not going to motivate anybody.
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  Speaker 13: I think it's finding an authentic voice in your community
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  Speaker 13: and for yourself where people are going to connect with you.
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  Speaker 13: When I told voters I wasn't going to take any
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  Speaker 13: bullshit from any big corporation that was cheating them, I
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  Speaker 13: had the credibility of my.
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  Speaker 8: Actions in Congress year after year behind that.
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  Speaker 13: And so I think it's the exact same thing when
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  Speaker 13: you hear someone like Alyssa Slack and say that she
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  Speaker 13: understands the risks that our nation faces.
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  Speaker 8: From foreign adversaries. She's been there.
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  Speaker 13: She's done the work. She's done tours in Iraq. She
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  Speaker 13: understands that. And she's doing the work every day in
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  Speaker 13: Congress to keep our country safe. So I don't think
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  Speaker 13: it's talk about it more. I think it's talk about
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  Speaker 13: it in a way that is really genuine and effective
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  Speaker 13: and hits the biggest possible audience.
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  Speaker 5: Given Elon Musk's interesting behavior over the last few months,
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  Speaker 5: that has been a reminder of how impactful these big
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  Speaker 5: social media platforms are and how lightly regulated they are.
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  Speaker 5: The fact that Republicans are going to control Congress next
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  Speaker 5: month means that the odds of sort of a progressive,
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  Speaker 5: aggressive legislative response to that is highly unlikely. Are there
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  Speaker 5: things you think the Biden administration could do to bring
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  Speaker 5: more scrutiny and more regulation to these social media platforms?
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 13: Look, we have treated for too long, we have treated
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  Speaker 13: these platforms as untouchables.
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  Speaker 8: And they're not, they're just companies. That's all they are.
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  Speaker 8: They're companies.
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  Speaker 13: They're just like any other company. And they're existing in
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  Speaker 13: a marketplace. In this case, it's not a marketplace for products.
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  Speaker 13: It's a marketplace for information. And if they are doing
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  Speaker 13: harm in a marketplace by disseminating false information, then we
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  Speaker 13: have the ability and the need to regulate them.
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  Speaker 8: And I think we've actually seen, I.
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  Speaker 13: Would argue, I agree with you about Democrats and Republicans,
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  Speaker 13: excuse me, about how they're.
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  Speaker 8: Going to handle this.
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  Speaker 13: But To be clear, I don't think Democrats have really
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  Speaker 13: stepped up to the plate on this either. Hatred, Democrats
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  Speaker 13: talk a lot about how we stand against hatred. We
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  Speaker 13: stand with the LGBTQ plus community. We stand up for
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  Speaker 13: civil rights. That's where hatred spread today. It spread online.
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  Speaker 8: And you can't fight hatred.
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  Speaker 13: You can't fight anti-Semitism if you're not willing to push
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  Speaker 13: on regulating social media platforms to do better. Today, I
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  Speaker 13: had a hearing about attacks on the LGBTQ plus community.
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  Speaker 13: And we learned that calling someone a groomer, an LGBTQ person,
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  Speaker 13: a groomer or a pedophile violates Twitter's content policy. And
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  Speaker 13: yet the human rights campaign found over 500 of these
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  Speaker 13: posts that had over 72 million views. They picked the
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  Speaker 13: hundred highest, worst posts, asked Twitter to take them down
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  Speaker 13: under their own content policy.
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  Speaker 8: And one post came down.
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  Speaker 5: And it wasn't the post of the CEO who accused
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  Speaker 5: his former staff of that exact behavior.
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  Speaker 8: That's right. That's right. So I think, look, I mean,
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  Speaker 8: these are not, this is not government speech.
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  Speaker 13: We have to educate the American public about what free
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  Speaker 13: speech does and does not protect. And we have to
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  Speaker 13: understand that these companies wield incredible influence in the marketplace
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  Speaker 13: for information. And when people have information or when they
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  Speaker 13: don't dramatically affects the foundational pillars of our society and
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  Speaker 13: our economy.
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  Speaker 2: Before we let you go, please rank these movies. You've
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  Speaker 2: Got Mail, Notting Hill, and Love Actually. There is a
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  Speaker 2: correct answer.
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  Speaker 8: I think Love Actually.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's incorrect. The correct order is Love Actually
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  Speaker 2: at number three, followed by You Got Mail. Number one
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  Speaker 2: is Notting Hill. It is the number one, unfortunately. But
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  Speaker 2: that's okay. That's okay. Congresswoman Katie Porter, thank you so
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  Speaker 2: much for being here.
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  Speaker 13: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: We really enjoy.
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  Speaker 5: What's likely to be your last interview on this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Happy New Year.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. It's time for our next pundi. This is Worst
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  Speaker 1: Take by a Pod Save America host. Wow. We're making
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  Speaker 1: our head producer, Andy Gardner Bernstein, present this one because
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  Speaker 1: we know it will make her deeply uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Andy, take it away.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, I drew the short straw. And so I'm going
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  Speaker 10: to be reading back some of your takes. And we're
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  Speaker 10: going to start with Dan. Stand by it. And I
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  Speaker 10: would just like to point out that Elijah is the
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  Speaker 10: one who picked these.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, sure, sure.
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  Speaker 5: That's not what Elijah says.
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  Speaker 1: Safely in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 10: On July 19th, Dan wrote in a message box post.
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  Speaker 11: Ooh.
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  Speaker 8: Wow.
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  Speaker 10: Of course I knew Joe Manchin would once again torpedo
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  Speaker 10: the last best chance at climate legislation. Joe Manchin then
• 57:09
  Speaker 10: threw that back in Dan's face and immediately signed on
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  Speaker 10: to the IRA.
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  Speaker 5: So my plan worked.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 10: And Elijah's note on this is, quote, look, Dan went
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  Speaker 10: on a heater this year. This was the best we
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  Speaker 10: could find. We went through every tweet. And every message box,
• 57:31
  Speaker 10: he was cautious in his political analysis, adequately depressed about
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  Speaker 10: his sports teams, and self-deprecating about his pop culture habits.
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  Speaker 10: Enjoy it while it lasts, Dan.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, Elijah.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: I left no openings. We're so fucked. You made it
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  Speaker 2: really hard.
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  Speaker 10: This one was tough for us.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Next one. I podcast like nobody's watching.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, you just wait.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 57:57
  Speaker 10: So next one is Jon Favreau. On November 1st, John wrote, quote,
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  Speaker 10: I'm tweeting about this absolute nonsense against my better judgment
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  Speaker 10: because I'm seeing it rub off on way too many
• 58:11
  Speaker 10: smart people. This was in response to a Will Stancil
• 58:14
  Speaker 10: thread about how Democrats weren't going on defense enough in
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  Speaker 10: the final days of the election. John disagreed and wrote,
• 58:22
  Speaker 10: most Democratic ads and speeches are currently about GOP extremism
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  Speaker 10: and abortion. But the next day, President Biden went out
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  Speaker 10: and gave a speech condemning GOP extremism, a complete coincidence
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  Speaker 10: that happened to validate Will Stancil's point and ultimately forced
• 58:38
  Speaker 10: John to re-engage with his own thread.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Wow. He hates how that was framed.
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: Biden and Stancil versus Favreau.
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  Speaker 1: He said most ads were about GOP extremism.
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  Speaker 2: That's correct. But once again.
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  Speaker 10: We realized, the producers realized that this was a bit
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  Speaker 10: of a stretch, but we looked.
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  Speaker 2: So this is a segment where Dan and John were
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  Speaker 2: right all year, and now you're going to fucking kick
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  Speaker 2: the shit out of me?
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  Speaker 5: All right, go.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Go to the next one.
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  Speaker 1: Look, Tommy's not here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tommy's not here.
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  Speaker 1: I hope we got a Tommy tape.
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  Speaker 10: On to Love It.
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  Speaker 9: We identified a few.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: Great.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go out with it. Yes!
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  Speaker 10: We've got Love It saying that making coffee at home
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  Speaker 10: is weird.
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  Speaker 2: We have... I just found out people do that.
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  Speaker 10: We have Lovett saying that L.A. has the best bagels.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. I defend that.
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  Speaker 10: We have Lovett saying he wanted to fuck Madison Cawthorn.
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  Speaker 10: A few times, I'm told.
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  Speaker 2: No, I said it a few times.
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  Speaker 12: I figure I could just get it out of my system.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Go on.
• 59:54
  Speaker 10: And finally, and by far the most audience requested take,
• 59:58
  Speaker 10: Lovett and Tommy for defending Elon Musk as a genius.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Oh no, here we go. Here's what I want to
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: say about this. Here's what I want to say about this.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Here's what I want to say about this. I relent.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: I am sorry. I have argued for, I have tried
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: so hard to defend the proposition that this guy is
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: not a fucking moron because I found it hard to
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: believe that someone could have so much success in so
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: many places and yet be as stupid as he seems
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: to be, I give up. I relent. It is easy
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: to make the first giant electric car company. It is
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: easy to get to Mars. These things turned out to
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: be simpler. Look, when Ben Carson ran for president, it
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: turns out being a brain surgeon was easier than we thought.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: It turns out getting to Mars is easier than we thought.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: That's cool. That I tried so hard to make a
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: case for keeping my fucking Tesla. If anybody wants a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: discount on that Nazi sled, you can slide into my DMs.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: I'm out.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: I'm just out on the guy. I'm out on the
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: whole fucking thing. All right. I relent. You win. You win.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: I will say L.A. does have the best bagels. And
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: I'm Madison Cawthorne's not in Congress anymore. There's no power.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: The allure is gone. That was just an asshole from
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: wherever he's from.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 10: The good news is you just won a Pundi.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: Hey.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: Is there a list of Tommy takes we could have?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Do we have any Tommy takes?
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 10: No, there are no Tommy takes.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: We're so sorry.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: All right. Bummer. Okay. I win.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. All right.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: When we come back. Congratulations, by the way.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Okay. When we come back, we will share our 2023
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: New Year's resolutions. All right, we're back and it's time
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: at last for our New Year's resolutions to kick things off.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: We asked some of our colleagues at Crooked for their resolutions.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Take a listen.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 11: I'm Caroline, senior producer at Crooked, and my 2023 resolution
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 11: is to beat Les Bain. Now, it is still 2022,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 11: which is why I'm wearing my sunglasses, because I'm not
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 11: wearing makeup and I'm not ready yet. for you all
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 11: to see what lies beneath, which is full Gremlin. Also,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 11: if I'm being super honest, it's to drink less. But again,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 11: we are still in 2022, so I'm going to keep
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 11: being vain.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 8: I'm going to keep drinking. Hi everyone, this is Yasmeen
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 8: Hamadi from Dare We Say.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 9: And my 2023 New Year's resolution, also that's so weird
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 9: that it's 2023, is probably going to be committing to
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 9: the work that I want to do.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 8: So I have so many dreams.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 9: I have so many ideas, and I put them down
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 9: on paper, but I don't ever really execute it.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: I think for 2023, I'm going to say, frick it,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: just do it, and don't look back.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 8: So yeah, happy New Year's.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Hey friends, Dr.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: Abdul El-Sayed here, host of America Dissected, and my New
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: Year's resolution is to finish the content I start. I
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: have this habit where I start reading something, I'm like,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: you know what, I don't like this, so I stop.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: And maybe I might have missed something, so I actually
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: just want to finish the things that I start.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 7: My 2023 New Year's resolution is to defeat Jon.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 8: Favreau in two takes and a fake.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: Jon is certainly a worthy opponent.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 7: He knows his takes, but iron sharpens iron, and I
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 7: resolve to be better next year. I will also accept
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 7: defeating Jon on aggregate in the case that he goes
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 7: two and one in several rounds, but then goes oh
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 7: and three on a couple of rounds, which is a
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 7: mathematical possibility. I will accept either of those outcomes, having
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 7: completed my resolution.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 8: My resolution this year is very easy. I'm going to
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 8: learn line dancing. I think this would be fun. I
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 8: think it will be cardio I can enjoy.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 10: And if you're nice, maybe I'll post some videos and
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 10: we can all enjoy my line dancing.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Isn't the idea of line dancing that when you've showed up,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: you've learned it, right? Don't they just, you just do
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: what they say, right? Do-si-do and so forth. Does it
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: get harder than that?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never tried it.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know anything about it. I just know from
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Miss Friedlander and elementary school.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: All right, so before we share our 2023 resolutions, we
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: are going to humiliate ourselves by playing tape from last
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: year's resolution episode. We're going to start with Lovett.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, great. Here's my sincere resolution, which is... Obviously, we
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: all had a very hard couple of years, but I
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: denied that I was actually depressed up until literally like
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: three months ago. And right now... I finally understand how
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: real that was because I feel so much better right now.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: And I think that means that I'm being a better person.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: I feel better and I'm treating people better. And so
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: my resolution for 2022 is to be very protective of
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: this new situation and guard it and protect it with resilience.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: And I would like to keep doing this.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: I think you did great. That's great.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: You did a great job.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: You're saying the same thing that I said then.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: You fuck. Unbelievable. I think I also get my other
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: resolution was to lose 15 pounds.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: That's a tough, that's a tough still.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Uh, which you couldn't, didn't I have a, didn't I
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: have a fucking funny one? We could have used Jesus.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: You've done what you've done. Well, I think we did it.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I think we made it.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: I think we made it to the end.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Uh, so what's your resolution now?
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, uh, uh, to get depressed, uh, become insufferable. Uh,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: I want to start more books. I don't need to
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: finish them.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Is that a me resolution?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: It's specific.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: I want to start more books because I feel like
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: there's this pressure. Abdul made this resolution about finishing more books. No, no, no.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: That's wrong. You should start. It's like if you're making
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: every flight, you're going to the airport too early. If
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: you're finishing every book, you're not taking enough chances out there.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: I want to start stuff and just know that if
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: I don't finish it, it's okay. I want to start
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: more books. Okay.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Start more books.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Just like a couple pages. That's it.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Just like get into it. I guess the point I'm
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: trying to make is I think people should be giving
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: up on more books two chapters in. Okay.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Because I think sometimes you start reading a book, then
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: you feel bad you're not finishing it, and then you're
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: just watching Netflix. Start more books.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: Give up.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Give up out there. Keep reading. Give up.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: I'm already looking forward to this being played back next year.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Me too. Me too. All right, it's Dan's turn. Let's
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: hear Dan from last year.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: My 2022 resolution was also my 2019 resolution, which is
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: I'm going to get back into playing basketball, which is
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: something I used to do four nights a week all
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: the time. Got old, got injured, and I told myself,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: it was 2019, I was like, I am going to
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: start playing again, which requires, like, rehabbing my ankles, getting ready.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: And I did that, and I finally got there in 2020.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: I played my first basketball game in the last week
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: of February of 2020.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 13: Oof.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Did you play basketball?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: I did.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 11: Wow.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: I did it.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: I would also.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Perfect Dan.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: I would like to say.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Unbroken Street.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: That I really hope, when we go back and listen
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: to it, that that resolution came before, not after Lovitz.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: I want to lead a fulfilling life. I want to
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: play basketball.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Dan, you got one for 2023?
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: In 2023, my resolution is to not mail in the
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: year's resolution section of this podcast, which I do every year.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we really do come up with them in real time.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's it, huh?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what? The playback next year is not
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: going to be as weird.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: That's it. All right, here's mine. My resolution this year
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: was going to be to get the fuck out of
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles because I have left this city twice in
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: the past two years because of this pandemic. And so
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: in 2022, I am getting out of here and I'm
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: going other places. After nearly two years of a pandemic
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: and a year and a half of being a parent,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: I feel like my friendships and relationships have atrophied a bit.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel that for me.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: I don't even know you anymore. I see you two
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: every day. You guys are the exception. Dan, I don't
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: see in person, but I feel pretty close. There's a
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: lot of other friends and family members that I just
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: have not spent a lot of time actually interacting with
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: that I would like to do in 2022. And if
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: that applies to you, Text him.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Text him to say hi.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: And I may reply. Depends on how the tweets are looking.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: And then my final one, which is like Tommy's, which
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: is a not thing, is that I pledge to not
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: learn anything about NFTs or cryptocurrency. Oh, no. I broke
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: that one. I don't want to learn a thing.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: My other resolution is to get into crypto this year.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Crypto bro from San Francisco. Try it on something new.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: You want to watch something rise, crest, and fall.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: Right at the top.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: And that's the time Dan gets on board.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: Buy the dip. I would say that a lot of
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: people listened to that, took that seriously. And I was
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: bombarded with crypto bros trying to get me involved in
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: their endeavors.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Wow well and how to go how many texts how
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: many sam bankman freed texts you have let's.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: Just say next year i'll be recording this podcast from
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: the bahamas.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: I nailed my resolution except for the the nft crypto
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: thing i learned like an offline episode worth of that
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: that's all i don't know anything well that's a brief
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: that i barely know what happened with sam bankman freed
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: yeah All right. Resolution for me. You're gonna roll your eyes.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I'm going to volunteer more. And I know, I know,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: but I feel like by saying it out loud like this,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be held accountable. And like, it's one
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: of those things you always want to do. but like
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: I got to actually go out and do it on
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: a regular basis.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: If you have a nonprofit organization, a charity, whatever.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: It's not like donate either. You got to like show up.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: I want to go show up.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: If you need Jon Favreau's time, message him on social media.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: You can find him on Twitter, Instagram, Mastodon, all the above.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: And I'll do it here in LA. Now that I've left,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: now that I've left in 2022 and gone all the
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: places I wanted to, I'll do it right here in LA.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: If you need him, tooted him.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: All right. Now that we did that, it's time for
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: the final Pundi of the night. And I think we
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: have Elijah to present.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: Hey, guys.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 7: Can we revisit the Pod Save America host Pundis real quick?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 7: Because I just want to say Tommy shouldn't be let
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 7: off the hook.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 7: We asked our audience for your worst takes. And it
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 7: was always like Tommy and Lovett, Tommy and Lovett.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: Tommy and Lovett together.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 7: Like you guys, like you had the cinder block boots
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 7: on together for this one. You dove in.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 7: To that, to that take together.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: What were some of Tommy's?
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Can you give us a couple of examples? It was
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: going to be the, we, we, we did the Elon
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: thing together. It was a, it was a horrible, it
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: was a gruesome twosome.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 7: It was, it was, it was, it was the overwhelming
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 7: submitted thing too.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: So run away.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 7: Congratulations.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Apparently there's been several emails to the Hey account about it.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: I keep being told no one shows me them, but
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: I find out about it. We're getting some, getting some
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: blow back at the Hey, a crooked account. Okay.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 7: And on that note, let's move on to the overall
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 7: worst take of the years. I am shaking with excitement.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: We can tell, we can see heavy hitters, only big names,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 7: major news events. Let's go through in chronological order. First
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 7: up first nominee for worst take of the year.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: Donald Trump.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 7: In the days right before and right after Russia's invasion
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 7: of Ukraine, Donald Trump lavished praise on Vladimir Putin, calling
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 7: him savvy, a genius, and saying that Putin is playing
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 7: Joe Biden like a drum. The war thus far has
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 7: not gone Putin's way.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 7: Any thoughts on that before we move on?
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's... Yeah, I think you hit it.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: You got it. It was a bad take. It was
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: a bad take.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 5: Next up, Mark.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: This flew under the radar when it came out. I
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 7: was so excited when I found it. Mark Thiessen wrote
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 7: a piece titled Watch Out Democrats. The abortion ruling may
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 7: help Republicans. Every line is amazing. I could just read
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 7: the whole thing verbatim, but here's a small taste quote.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 7: If the court's conservative majority does strike down Roe, Democrats
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 7: might find that the decision is not nearly as unpopular
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 7: as they think. If Democrats focus on defending abortion this November,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 7: it will backfire.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: Okay. That's, that's in pole position to me.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Uh, bad take, bad take, bad take, bad take from
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: someone who gives a lot of bad takes.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 7: It almost went into predictions, but this was the worst
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 7: road take out there I could find. So a double,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 7: double talent. Um, next up, you guys are familiar with
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 7: this one. David Brooks, after the FBI retrieved stolen classified
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 7: documents from Mar-a-Lago, Brooks put out a piece titled, did
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 7: the FBI just reelected Donald Trump? Uh, The piece basically
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 7: argues that this episode was good for Trump because there's
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 7: a distrust of authority and the raid validated that. But
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 7: the intro paragraph is the undisputed champion of the piece. Quote,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 7: why is Donald Trump so powerful? How did he come
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 7: to dominate one of the two major parties and get
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 7: himself elected president? Is it his hair, his waistline? No,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 7: it's his narratives. It's powerful stuff.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: That was a very wrong take.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: It was a wrong take. I mean, I had some little,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think the FBI reelected Trump, but
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: he could still win.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think it helped him in any way.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: You don't know that yet.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: We don't know. Let's see.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: It's not a bad take. It may just be an
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: early take.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Early take. Too early to call.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Too early to call. Too early to call from David Brooks.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: Is that any more?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Is that it? Those are the three?
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 7: I have two more. One, it's not a news event,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 7: but it's just a classic of the year to put
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 7: it in.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: Bethany Mandel.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 7: If I had to pinpoint a moment that Republicans became
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 7: the party of jerks, it's when Mitt Romney spent his
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 7: entire campaign being accused of killing Big Bird, building finders
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 7: full of women, torturing the family dog, etc., etc.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: Before we go to the last one, there's a special
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: kind of category of takes, which is, it's your fault
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: I'm this way, that you see constantly. Like, oh, Elon's
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: become a maniac because of liberal scolds. Like, Republicans tried
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: to burn down the Capitol because Mitt Romney faced an opponent.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: You know, like there's just a category of like, why
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: do you make me do this to you?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: I think I just discovered my 2023 New Year's resolution
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: in this take, which is I am going to let
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: the 2012 election go and I'm going to rant about
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: Mitt Romney less. I could feel it bubbling up inside
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: me as that was happening.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: It's going to make this tough.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: I'm going to do that.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: Well, it's still 2022.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: How many books did you finish?
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, look. Check your volunteer hours at the end
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: of the year. That's, first of all, Dan, really important
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: and good point.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: The question is.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: How many books I started. It's 2022 still. It's your
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: thunder road. Give us one last taste.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: I would like you to know that I know every
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: once in a while you remember we have a podcast
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: on Thursdays, but we did this one.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: What was your favorite part about Jennifer Tilly on Lover
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: to Leave It? Keep going, Elijah.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: You got Jennifer Tilly on Lover to Leave It? That's cool.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: That's what happened?
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 7: And then last nominee, very simple one from Elon Musk,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 7: comedy is now legal on Twitter.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: Oof.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 7: And those are your 2022 Worst Take of the Year nominees.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: This is tough.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: I want to say, I think that I will say
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: that like just as a pure, unadulterated, bad take, claiming
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: that overturning Roe v. Wade would be bad for Democrats,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: written by a foreign policy goofball from D.C. to me
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: is the.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: He's not even a foreign policy goofball. He's just a speechwriter.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: Well, foreign policy.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: You know how I mean.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Look at our qualifications. Well, he's like a foreign policy
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: hawk goofball.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Torture apologist.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, torture apologist.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: Waterboarding us every week in the Washington Post on that page.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: I think that's the worst take.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: I think it's Bethany Mandel.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: You can't let go.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: This is Thunder Road. Let's hear it, Dan. Let's hear it, Dan.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: For those listening at home, it's December 14th. All Mark
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 5: Thiessen did in this case was make a bad political prediction,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: which many have done. Many people named Josh, as we
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: learned in the previous subject. But when you hit on
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: the right point with Bethany Mandel, it was the worst
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: takes are the ones that Blame other people for why
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: we are so terrible.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: And that is just such a convoluted, idiotic, ahistorical logic
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: to say that the reason Republicans are assholes is because
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: Obama ran a largely polite campaign against Mitt Romney a
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: decade ago. It's like it's an absurdity.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: We did accuse him of killing that guy with cancer.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: We did not do that. It was an unaffiliated super PAC.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: It was famously a famously unaffiliated super PAC, John. We
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: all remember that. Yeah, I do think that as far
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: as a category of takes, the look what you made
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  Speaker 2: me do take is pernicious and everywhere. So I'm persuaded.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: I'm persuaded by the message box.
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  Speaker 1: I still think the biggest issue of the year was
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: abortion in the midterms. It was the biggest news story
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  Speaker 1: of the year, and Mark Thiessen got it as wrong
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  Speaker 1: as you can get it.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with John.
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  Speaker 7: The thing I'll say about Thiessen, not to put my
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 7: thumb on the scale here, but I wasn't just using
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 7: some flowery language here when I said every line of
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  Speaker 7: that piece is a banger.
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  Speaker 5: Every single one is boring and wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Give us another sentence.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, you know, it just goes to all the trappings
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  Speaker 7: of Republicans....
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  Speaker 5: You know, are on the.
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  Speaker 7: Right side of history on this issue and they're closer
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  Speaker 7: to the hearts of Americans than most people realize.
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  Speaker 5: And then all the, you know, crap that's unscientific. It
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  Speaker 5: really just depends on what scale we're judging this on.
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  Speaker 5: If it's like just a bad, incorrect take, Mark Thiessen
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  Speaker 5: wins it. If it is, we are appreciating the take.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's call this fucking thing. It's not real.
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  Speaker 2: Bethany Mandel takes it. Congratulations to Bethany Mandel. Whoever you
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: may be.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: You can pick your pundi up in North Carolina at
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: Elijah's house, where he has been in this room nonstop
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: for the last several months.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: Great pondies.
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  Speaker 7: Thanks for participating.
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• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: you back here in 2023. Happy New Year.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: Happy New Year, everybody. I'm still really from the footage
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: of my fucking depression take. Let me out of my house.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: That was unbelievable. That was a person in crisis. Leave
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: all this in.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: Honestly, that was incredible. I'm so glad someone did that. Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: Good job, producers.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't there also a take in there when I watch
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: more old films or something?
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• 1:19:19
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• 1:19:23
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• 1:19:26
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• 1:19:29
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