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Speaker 1: The Large Neurdron Collider Podcast is a production of I
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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hi everybody, Welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider Podcast,
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Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the giggy things happening in
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Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel casting and with me, as always
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Speaker 1: is the super Jonathan Strickland. Thank you, Ariel. I am
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Speaker 1: only super Jonathan Strickland when it's after hours. Otherwise I'm
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Speaker 1: mild mannered podcaster Jonathan Strickland, and it's pretty super to me.
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Speaker 1: You you. This is why we've been friends for twenty years.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, Ariel, for you. Not only do I
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Speaker 1: have a compliment, you are a wonderful friend, and I
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Speaker 1: am very thankful you're here today. Thank you. But I
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Speaker 1: also have a question for you, okay, Ariel. So we
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Speaker 1: love all geegy things, right we we are big in
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Speaker 1: the geko sphere. However, occasionally something that comes out might
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Speaker 1: not quite live up to our expectations of it, right.
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Speaker 1: We might we might enjoy it on some level, but
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Speaker 1: we might think, oh man, I kind of wish that
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Speaker 1: we're better. So let's say that you've got this incredible
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Speaker 1: power where you can obliterate some sort of geeky property
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Speaker 1: from existence so that someone can have a fresh go
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Speaker 1: at making a really good version of it without the
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Speaker 1: worry of there being any baggage that's tied to the original.
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Speaker 1: What would you obliterate? So this is a hard question
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Speaker 1: because other than a couple of movies that I just
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Speaker 1: really don't like and would not want to see again,
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Speaker 1: Like so many of them were okay or had a
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Speaker 1: really good one and then went downhill with sequels. But
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Speaker 1: I think the one that just did not live up
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Speaker 1: to my expectations that I can think of right now, uh,
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Speaker 1: that I would want to obliterate and get a fresh
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Speaker 1: start for is Leak of Extraordinary Gentleman. That is an
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Speaker 1: excellent suggestion. Sorry, you're talking about the film. I assume
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Speaker 1: I guess so right, because the film was very, very
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Speaker 1: different from the graphic novel that inspired it. Um, I
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Speaker 1: have issues with the graphic novel as well. I won't
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Speaker 1: get into it, but it has to do with like
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Speaker 1: consent and stuff. But yeah, but the movie was like, yes,
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Speaker 1: I agree, Like it is such an interesting concept and
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of different authors who have played
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Speaker 1: with incorporating various fictional characters from different different sources into
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Speaker 1: the same place, like Kim Newman did it in Ano
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Speaker 1: Dracula and its sequel, and I always enjoy that. I
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Speaker 1: find that it's kind of it's almost like spot the reference.
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Speaker 1: But I do enjoy that, So I agree that's a
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Speaker 1: good pick. Yeah, I mean, and and to that extent,
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Speaker 1: we could obliterate the graphic novels as well and just
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Speaker 1: have a fresh start, you know. I feel like Universal
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Speaker 1: kind of tried to do it with their Dark Universe,
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Speaker 1: which we could also obliterate as a part of that function,
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Speaker 1: um and start over fresh there, because well, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to obliterate the originals of those movies. The original
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Speaker 1: Mummy and Dracula and all that are fantastic, but you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, anyhow, what about you. Well,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the series a bit later. Uh
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Speaker 1: spoiler alert, But yeah, I would obliterate Highlander, which is
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Speaker 1: a controversial choice because the original film. Yeah, the original
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Speaker 1: film had a lot of things going for It has
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Speaker 1: an amazing sound act by Queen. The high concept is
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Speaker 1: tons of fun. You had, you know, Sean Connery chewing
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Speaker 1: up scenery as a uh uh an Egyptian who went
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Speaker 1: to Japan to learn to fight and got a sword,
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Speaker 1: and then as posing as a Spaniard but played by
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Speaker 1: a Scotsman, right, Sean Connery playing Ramirez, and you know,
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Speaker 1: and Clancy Brown as the Kurgan is a phenomenal villain.
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Speaker 1: But but the way the movie ends doesn't really allow
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Speaker 1: for sequels, and yet we got them. We got a
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Speaker 1: lot of them, I mean, and I will say like
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Speaker 1: it was really good for the time. Having watched some
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Speaker 1: of the original Highlander again recently, it's only for the
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Speaker 1: love of it that it's still any good. It does
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Speaker 1: not hold up. Yeah, Now there's some it's some very
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Speaker 1: very rough pacing issues in that movie. The transitions, the
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Speaker 1: scene transitions are amazing. There's this great scene transition that
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Speaker 1: starts in a parking garage in modern day and the
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Speaker 1: camera moves up through the parking garage and when it
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Speaker 1: gets up to the surface level you're in medieval Scotland
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Speaker 1: and I'm just like, this is such a clever scene transition.
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Speaker 1: It's you don't see that very often, right, So there's
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Speaker 1: stuff like that that I thought was really cool. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: as a as a movie, it only sort of works.
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Speaker 1: The concept phenomenal the movie only sort of works. Christopher
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Speaker 1: Lambert does no favors to that film, and and so
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Speaker 1: I would obliterate that because I think the idea is incredible.
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Speaker 1: But I would want whomever was creating the new version,
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Speaker 1: and spoiler alert, we're gonna be talking about that, but
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Speaker 1: whomever is creating the new version to not have the
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Speaker 1: burden of those earlier films kind of weighing it down.
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Speaker 1: I do think that there will be a little bit
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Speaker 1: um fortunate that we have had quite a bit of
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Speaker 1: time passed between the original movie and now, so that
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Speaker 1: a new generation of fans can come in unscalded. I suppose. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, although it is a true shame
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Speaker 1: if you never experience that Clancy Brown performance because he
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Speaker 1: killed it as the Kurgan. I mean, great lines like
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Speaker 1: I got something to say, it's behere to burn out.
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Speaker 1: Clancy Brown is just fantastic at what he does. Geek Idol. Yes,
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Speaker 1: another beloved geek Idol to me at least is the Riddler,
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Speaker 1: like the old Adam West level Riddler, which leads us
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Speaker 1: into our first story. Yeah, we come back to the Highlander.
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Speaker 1: We'll come back to that at the end of the episodes,
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Speaker 1: you have to all the way. Yes. So now that
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Speaker 1: we're through my very clunky segue, our first story is
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Speaker 1: about the Batman. They just came out with some promotional
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Speaker 1: shots and there's one that's making a little bit of
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Speaker 1: waves for better or for worse of the Riddler. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the Riddlers in these pictures is wearing a mask that
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Speaker 1: includes a strap that goes right across the mouth. He's
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Speaker 1: wearing glasses on the outside of the mask. And so
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Speaker 1: you know, Riddler in obviously, in most versions is not
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Speaker 1: typically a masked villain. Or if he is wearing a mask,
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Speaker 1: he's wearing like the Burglar style. I'm ask So so
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Speaker 1: this is different from classic renditions of the Riddler, and
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Speaker 1: it's it's created something of a divide in the fandom. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I fall on the divide if I'm not a big
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Speaker 1: fan of the look. It kind of looks like it. Oh,
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Speaker 1: so many thoughts on this. The Riddler is one of
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Speaker 1: my favorite Batman villains and uh in later years, for
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Speaker 1: instanceance some of the more recent Batman video games. He
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Speaker 1: is super, super devious. He's always been devious, but he's
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Speaker 1: gotten darker as time goes on. As media is want
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Speaker 1: to do. Um, and so this the new image feels
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Speaker 1: very like Hannibal lectery where they don't want to let
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Speaker 1: him talk his riddles because that will cause trouble. His
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Speaker 1: mouth is covered. Um, and it just I don't know,
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Speaker 1: I like that that's wave sort of riddler above it
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Speaker 1: all her sana that the original has, this one is
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Speaker 1: not hitting that for me. I got you. Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that the riddlers is still going to be
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Speaker 1: able to talk in that mass. My worry is that
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Speaker 1: it's going to come across a sort of bane ish
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Speaker 1: where it becomes difficult to understand anything the character is saying.
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Speaker 1: Although I'm sure they'll be able to like a d
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Speaker 1: R stuff and everything and then create a much clearer
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Speaker 1: audio for it. But you want to figure out, like,
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Speaker 1: how do you balance that, how do you make it
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Speaker 1: where it sounds like the voices coming from that person,
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Speaker 1: but yet it's not so muffled that everything who or
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Speaker 1: for you don't want that right, um. But But to me,
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Speaker 1: the vibe it gives off and a lot of other
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Speaker 1: people have commented on this too, is it reminds me
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Speaker 1: of um artist drawings of the Zodiac Killer, who was
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Speaker 1: active in the nineteen sixties in the San Francisco area.
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Speaker 1: Um in North California, and uh that that story is
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Speaker 1: beyond creepy. There is some overlap in that the Zodiac
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Speaker 1: would send letters to the press that we're taunting police,
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Speaker 1: So there's kind of a similar aspect to that between
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Speaker 1: that and The Riddler. Um. But yeah, this is this
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Speaker 1: seems like a much darker, more homicidal kind of take
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Speaker 1: on The Riddler. And UM, I don't know how I
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Speaker 1: feel about I think the design is interesting. I don't
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Speaker 1: know how I feel about it from the aspect of
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Speaker 1: turning comic or continuing to make comic book movies be
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Speaker 1: sort of silence of the Lambs ish m hmm. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Like there have been some very very dark Batman, some
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Speaker 1: very very dark comics. I just I want it to
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Speaker 1: be entertaining. In The Zodiot Killer, Wow, definitely a very
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Speaker 1: complex look at a person that I would call disturbed.
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Speaker 1: It's not something that I would enjoy watching. Yeah, yeah, no,
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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of similar to what my all my
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Speaker 1: complaints about the Snyder DC films are right, Like, it's
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Speaker 1: an interesting idea that might work really well in something
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Speaker 1: that's divorced from the Batman property, and you might even
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Speaker 1: be able to tell a great Batman story using it,
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Speaker 1: but not isn't necessarily a Batman story that you or
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Speaker 1: I want to experience. No, it looks like it might
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Speaker 1: fit in with like the Joker. Uh yeah, and then
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Speaker 1: like I'll withhold judgment until I can see this in action.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it could even be that this is one
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Speaker 1: look of the character and not the look. Yeah, I'm
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Speaker 1: kind of hoping. Well, something something that I think is
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Speaker 1: kind of cool, all right. I was not a big
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Speaker 1: fan of the Aquaman movie. I thought it was I
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Speaker 1: thought it was entertaining ish. I thought it was way
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Speaker 1: too long actually, but um, and so much stuff was
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Speaker 1: happening on screen that it was starting to get a
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Speaker 1: little like Transformers for me. But but something that's really
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Speaker 1: cool is we learned a bit about the Aquaman sequel,
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Speaker 1: which is is beginning shooting at this moment. But I
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Speaker 1: think the cool thing for me was hearing about how
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Speaker 1: how involved Jason Momoa has been in the process of
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Speaker 1: crafting that sequel. Yeah, he was so excited after the
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Speaker 1: first one that he wrote the second script and pitched
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Speaker 1: it and they said, sure, we'll treat this and do
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Speaker 1: this script. So that's I mean, that's just I have
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Speaker 1: learned as as I am evolving through my acting care
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Speaker 1: are that people really want collaborators in the creative process
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Speaker 1: and this is like the height of that. And it
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Speaker 1: just means that everybody has such an invested part in
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Speaker 1: the end product. A Command too or aquamand was too
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Speaker 1: long for me as well. But the thing that I
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Speaker 1: could tell is that Jason Momoa was having a good
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Speaker 1: time with it early sets the way it seemed to me,
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Speaker 1: And when someone is loving what they're doing, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to have fun watching it, at least to some degree. So, uh,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't a perfect movie. It was fun. It was
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Speaker 1: one of the brighter DC movies and I appreciated that. Yeah, no,
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Speaker 1: I agree, and I think I think the fact that
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Speaker 1: they are taking this approach it speaks highly of everyone involved.
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Speaker 1: I mean it, like you say, it shows a level
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Speaker 1: of investment that is refreshing to see. And you know,
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Speaker 1: I it reminds me of of uh, you know, the
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Speaker 1: stories that we have about the D and D film,
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Speaker 1: about the people have a deep love for the property
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Speaker 1: and they're the ones who are trying to make it
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Speaker 1: happen as opposed to people who say, you know, we
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Speaker 1: have rights to this thing, and if we don't make
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Speaker 1: a movie, we're gonna lose the rights. So let's just
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Speaker 1: throw something together and get it out there. Like it's
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Speaker 1: very rare that that results in a good product. So
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Speaker 1: this is unless this is Fantastic Four, Unless it's Roger
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Speaker 1: Corman's the Fantastic Four, which we have established previously is
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Speaker 1: the best Fantastic Four movie, have to continue establishing it.
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Speaker 1: Anyhow is going to do a Fantastic Four movie. And
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Speaker 1: I think at that point we might finally have a
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Speaker 1: contender to replace the Roger Corman one. We'll see, we'll see.
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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll have to waite out Robert Corman before the
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Speaker 1: first which I don't want to do. Um, But let's
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Speaker 1: continue in our upward uplifting DC news because the next
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Speaker 1: story is that Dwayne Johnson is not only playing a
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Speaker 1: DC villain, but he's also playing a DC superhero. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's this. This particular hero has the power of flight,
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Speaker 1: super strong, um sometimes has fleas up four legs, needs
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Speaker 1: to go for a walk a couple of times a day.
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Speaker 1: We're talking Crypto Crypto, who is Superman's puppy dog, super
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Speaker 1: Dog this is super Puppy Dog. This is clearly from
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Speaker 1: that era of d C comics that was more lighthearted. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know they were like, we were just saying that
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Speaker 1: the Batman has like a ton of different variations, right that.
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Speaker 1: There are some versions that are really dark and gritty.
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Speaker 1: Of course, there are other versions, like the Adam West
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Speaker 1: era where it was more campy and silly and outlandish.
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Speaker 1: And that's when you had characters like the Joker where
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Speaker 1: all of their crimes were somehow joke related, that kind
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Speaker 1: of thing. Crypto is obviously a more lighthearted type of
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Speaker 1: character aimed at younger audiences. And yeah, DC League of
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Speaker 1: Super Pets will have Crypto in it, and the Rock
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Speaker 1: is playing Crypto well, voicing Crypto. I don't think that
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Speaker 1: they're going to give him a cat's treatment and give
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Speaker 1: him like a first I do not want to see that.
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of hoping that they tell him they're going
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Speaker 1: to do that as a prank and shoot like a
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Speaker 1: couple of scenes before letting him down and say no, no no, no,
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Speaker 1: we're just gonna put you in the sound booth. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I've seen the SNL skit where he plays Bandy, so
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Speaker 1: I'm sure he would be game. Um, but you know,
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Speaker 1: I like how you did that Bambi and he'd be game. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I totally meant to do that. But you know, like
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Speaker 1: the fact that he's just playing a voice means that
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Speaker 1: people won't be It's not like Chris Evans playing the
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Speaker 1: Human Torch and Captain America. You know. Yeah, it's or
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Speaker 1: even or even uh Katherine Han playing Dr Octopus in
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Speaker 1: Into the Spider Verse as well as playing Agatha in
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Speaker 1: Wan Division. Yes, yes, that's a pretty good equivalent. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well yeah, our final story. The segment is about the
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Speaker 1: the teaser that was released for the upcoming Marvel film
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Speaker 1: The Eternals. This is a group of characters that I
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Speaker 1: don't know that much about. I was not, like, I
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Speaker 1: never collected The Eternal's comic book series. Uh, So I
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Speaker 1: went into watching this teaser without having a lot of
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Speaker 1: preconceptions of what it was. I was going to see.
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Speaker 1: What was your reactionarial Well, I'll start by saying I'm
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Speaker 1: also not super familiar with the Eternals. Uh. That that
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Speaker 1: is an echelon of Marvel heroes that I did not
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Speaker 1: delve into. But it felt very My first impression was, huh,
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Speaker 1: this looks like Stargates meets American gods. Um, but happy Um.
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Speaker 1: It looks interesting, it's it's visually stunning, as Marvel is
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Speaker 1: obligated to do pretty much. Outside of Howard the Duck
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Speaker 1: Um and the actors all seem to do a good job.
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Speaker 1: It looks like there's some humor in there, and it
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Speaker 1: looks like there's some drama in there, and there's some
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Speaker 1: love in there, so it looks like it'll be a
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Speaker 1: well rounded story. The problem for me is I still
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Speaker 1: am not sure who all of these characters are other
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Speaker 1: than God's and more importantly, the trailer says we didn't
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Speaker 1: get involved until now, and I'm not sure what they're
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Speaker 1: getting involved in and why. So there's still not a
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Speaker 1: storyline or a character for me to care about specifically
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Speaker 1: to drive me to see it. I will see it
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Speaker 1: because I like Marvel movies and I'm sure they'll do
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Speaker 1: a good job with it. But yeah, I just I
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Speaker 1: don't know enough yet from this trailer. Yeah, there's not
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Speaker 1: a moment that hooks me, like a moment that you
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Speaker 1: would see in like a Guardians of the Galaxy preview
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Speaker 1: where you go into that like before I ever saw
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Speaker 1: a preview for that movie. I was convinced it would
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Speaker 1: never work. Then I saw the preview and thought, now
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Speaker 1: I want to see this. This trailer did not quite
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Speaker 1: do that for me. Like you, I have faith in
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Speaker 1: the m c U to create a good movie, but
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Speaker 1: this trailer did not like give me a solid idea
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Speaker 1: of what the film's story was, how it relates to
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Speaker 1: the rest of the m c U, apart from the
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Speaker 1: fact that they do have a joke at the end
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Speaker 1: where they're talking about the Avengers and the characters from
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Speaker 1: the Avengers who are now gone and who's going to
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Speaker 1: lead them, and one of the characters, Black Night, as
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Speaker 1: it turns out, says I could do it, and then
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Speaker 1: everyone laughs at him, which of course is a joke
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Speaker 1: for the comic book geeks, because while I don't know
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Speaker 1: the Eternals, I do know Black Knight, and Black Knight
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Speaker 1: did he has been part of the Avengers multiple times, um,
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Speaker 1: and Black Knights not an eternal, so that also threw
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Speaker 1: me off. I'm like, okay, well, I'm assuming they're going
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Speaker 1: to encounter Black Knight and he's going to join the group,
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Speaker 1: but he himself is not one of the Eternals. Otherwise
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Speaker 1: they are doing some pretty massive rehet conning of Marvel history.
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Speaker 1: Not that that's a big deal, they've done it before,
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Speaker 1: but still, I so that moment was delightful. The other
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Speaker 1: interesting thing to me, and we were chatting about this
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Speaker 1: on Twitter with one of our our awesome listeners, is
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Speaker 1: that some of the actors in it, exception of Robert
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Speaker 1: Downey Jr. I felt like the and and Samuel L. Jackson.
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Speaker 1: I felt like the first round of Marvel's superheroes mainly
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Speaker 1: had actors who are well known, but we're not like
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Speaker 1: top tier stars top tier stars, And in this one
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Speaker 1: we've got Angelina Jolie and Salma Hayak. And while I
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Speaker 1: don't blade them for being like, yeah, I want to
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Speaker 1: be a Marvel superhero, isn't that on every actor's bucket list? Like,
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Speaker 1: that's just a level of notoriety that is above. So
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Speaker 1: I guess on one hand, it's it's a cool met
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Speaker 1: for an eternal level superhero. And on the other hand,
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Speaker 1: it it took to the trailer for me to go like, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: they'll fit in this universe. But they from what little
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Speaker 1: I've seen, they do okay one and and uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm ah I don't know enough yet to decide whether
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Speaker 1: or not this film looks like it's going to be
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Speaker 1: fun like Guards of the Galaxy, if it's going to
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Speaker 1: be more of a cluster like the Second Adventurers movie
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Speaker 1: felt to me, Age of Ultron felt like it was
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Speaker 1: a mess to me, and then, or if it's going
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Speaker 1: to be a true mess like The Inhumans, which did not.
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Speaker 1: That's that's like a recent m c U effort that
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Speaker 1: just totally failed. Let's hope it's better than that. Let's
20:50
Speaker 1: hope they learned their lesson. But we better learn our lesson.
20:53
Speaker 1: We better go to break before Tari comes and shakes
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Speaker 1: her fist at us. So we have more news items
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Speaker 1: that we wanted to talk about, So rather than doing
21:12
Speaker 1: a conversation topic the way we typically do in our episodes,
21:17
Speaker 1: we have a few more pieces that we feel we
21:19
Speaker 1: need to discuss, and one of those is the news
21:22
Speaker 1: that the c W has decided not to pick up
21:26
Speaker 1: the Powerpuff Girls live action series based on the existing pilot. However,
21:33
Speaker 1: they are allowing the creators the opportunity to rework and
21:37
Speaker 1: reshoot the pilot and try again. Yeah, so it's it's
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Speaker 1: not a no way, it's a not yet. Um you know,
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Speaker 1: and and a lot of shows, successful shows, as the
21:51
Speaker 1: A V Club article suggests, had to rewrite their pilot
21:54
Speaker 1: and turned out to be very successful. Um So, I A.
22:00
Speaker 1: I hope that they come up with something that's awesome.
22:03
Speaker 1: I have liked a lot of c W superhero stuff,
22:08
Speaker 1: either at the onset or later on, the Legends of
22:11
Speaker 1: Tomorrow being the the the example where I liked it
22:14
Speaker 1: better later on than in the initial setup. Um So,
22:21
Speaker 1: I know that c W can do it, But the concept,
22:24
Speaker 1: the gritty twenty something power Puff Girls concept, which if
22:28
Speaker 1: all the actors are still attached, is kind of going
22:30
Speaker 1: to have to stick, doesn't super grab me? What about you? Johnathan? Yeah? No,
22:34
Speaker 1: I I have not been a fan of the pitch
22:36
Speaker 1: for this show because I mean again, I beat the
22:40
Speaker 1: dead horse a lot. But um, I like a series
22:45
Speaker 1: that's about heroes to have people being heroic. And you know,
22:50
Speaker 1: the reluctant hero is a trope that's really familiar and
22:53
Speaker 1: has been used many times, and I don't necessarily object
22:56
Speaker 1: to it. But the idea of the bitter wrote who
23:01
Speaker 1: is uh jaded and and kind of emotionally damaged because
23:09
Speaker 1: of their heroism, and no longer wants to be heroic.
23:12
Speaker 1: I don't find that that interesting anymore. I feel like
23:14
Speaker 1: that's been done so much by so many different creators
23:19
Speaker 1: in different ways. Then I'm not super eager to see
23:23
Speaker 1: them take a what used to be a lighthearted, goofy
23:28
Speaker 1: superhero series and then say, well, here's an opportunity for
23:32
Speaker 1: us to make this a story about three damaged young
23:35
Speaker 1: women who are bitter that they didn't have a real
23:37
Speaker 1: childhood because they were forced to be heroes. I mean,
23:40
Speaker 1: I suppose that could still be comedic, Um, sure, a
23:45
Speaker 1: dark comedy office sort of a way. Yeah, I mean,
23:50
Speaker 1: you can still make it humorous. But to me, just
23:53
Speaker 1: the central idea is one that when I hear it,
23:57
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just like, okay, I mean I think it.
24:00
Speaker 1: I think would be more interesting to have them still
24:02
Speaker 1: be eager to be heroic, but now they're also balancing
24:06
Speaker 1: out everything else that comes along with growing up, right,
24:11
Speaker 1: Like that to me would be more interesting. I agree,
24:14
Speaker 1: I agree, I would. I think I personally would like
24:16
Speaker 1: to see that more as well. You know, just that
24:18
Speaker 1: their childhood superheroes were successful and and lead to a
24:25
Speaker 1: maybe slightly disillusioned but happy, um growing up them well,
24:30
Speaker 1: and and it makes me think of opportunities for a comedy,
24:33
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure that some of our listeners have had
24:36
Speaker 1: this experience where you know, you go to school, maybe
24:40
Speaker 1: you go to college, maybe you graduate, you're going out,
24:43
Speaker 1: you're getting a job, and then like there's a ton
24:45
Speaker 1: of stuff that life throws at you that you probably
24:48
Speaker 1: weren't totally prepared for because the way the education system
24:52
Speaker 1: works doesn't really cater to the way real life works. Right, Like,
24:57
Speaker 1: maybe you had some classes and things like finance or
25:01
Speaker 1: economics or whatever that kind of gave you an idea,
25:04
Speaker 1: But I think for a lot of people, they get
25:06
Speaker 1: into the real world and they don't know how to code.
25:08
Speaker 1: To me, the idea of three young women who have
25:12
Speaker 1: been heroes as they were growing up and thus did
25:16
Speaker 1: not have the opportunity to learn quote unquote real life skills,
25:20
Speaker 1: that has a potential for being an interesting and funny
25:24
Speaker 1: show where they're totally capable of handling like a prison
25:29
Speaker 1: outbreak or something, but they can't handle like how do
25:34
Speaker 1: you how do you balance your three gigs you have
25:37
Speaker 1: to work in order to pay the rent. I feel
25:39
Speaker 1: like that is every millennials current life situation, which is
25:44
Speaker 1: why I think it would work. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay,
25:48
Speaker 1: speaking of things you think will work, do you think
25:50
Speaker 1: the new D and D TV show will work? This
25:54
Speaker 1: is an excellent Questionnial, because before four pm today, I
25:58
Speaker 1: did not know there was going to be a D
26:00
Speaker 1: and D TV show. I knew there was going to
26:02
Speaker 1: be a D n D movie. We've known about that
26:04
Speaker 1: for about five years. But the television show this was
26:08
Speaker 1: a news announcement that you and I both missed earlier
26:12
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah. Apparently came out in January, the announcement
26:17
Speaker 1: about it, and I didn't learn about it till Thursday. So, um,
26:22
Speaker 1: I'll blame the I'll blame the pandemic. Um. So yeah.
26:27
Speaker 1: So Wizards of the Coast has been promoting their character
26:31
Speaker 1: drizz It, and as a part of that are saying
26:35
Speaker 1: that he might be a part of their D and
26:37
Speaker 1: D live action TV show. Now that worries me, but
26:44
Speaker 1: I'll talk about that in a second. Go ahead. I
26:46
Speaker 1: would say they also are doing a movie with some
26:49
Speaker 1: pretty big names, But I am assuming, just knowing the
26:55
Speaker 1: way those things generally work, that those actors will not
27:00
Speaker 1: also be in the TV show. Yeah, No, I don't
27:03
Speaker 1: think they're going to be necessarily connected. Apart from the
27:06
Speaker 1: fact that they both come from the same source material,
27:11
Speaker 1: I don't think that they will necessarily tie in together
27:14
Speaker 1: in any way. I think it's largely a way to
27:17
Speaker 1: cast a wide net, right Like, some people will probably
27:20
Speaker 1: go see the movie, some people watch the show, some
27:22
Speaker 1: people do both. But I don't think they're counting on
27:25
Speaker 1: that being a perfect circle, but more of a ven diagram.
27:29
Speaker 1: Drifts might be a I don't know how to pronounce
27:32
Speaker 1: his name. I like D and D, but I'm not
27:34
Speaker 1: that into it. Could be a part of both the
27:37
Speaker 1: movie and TV show, so there might be a character
27:39
Speaker 1: who carries over anyhow, you're concerned stuff well, because Drifts
27:42
Speaker 1: does a drought and drows in. D and D traditionally
27:47
Speaker 1: are depicted as having like ebony skin, and this creates
27:54
Speaker 1: some challenges when you're talking about how do you cast
27:59
Speaker 1: and depict the character on screen that ends up not
28:05
Speaker 1: coming across as being racially insensitive, right Like, That's what
28:11
Speaker 1: concerns me is that, I mean, you can you First
28:14
Speaker 1: of all, I would never go down this road because
28:16
Speaker 1: I just don't know how I would handle it. Um
28:19
Speaker 1: because I don't know that there's any way you could
28:20
Speaker 1: cast the character that would one satisfy the D and
28:24
Speaker 1: D fans who have really grown to love this character
28:29
Speaker 1: through you know, Salvator books, and to do it in
28:34
Speaker 1: such a way that it doesn't come across as stunt
28:38
Speaker 1: casting or insensitive or a bad fit for the character.
28:42
Speaker 1: It's tough, It is tough. I there is a short
28:46
Speaker 1: animated and animated short on the Polygon article that we
28:50
Speaker 1: um are referencing talking about this, and the image on
28:56
Speaker 1: it has dripped as a like a purple e skin in.
29:01
Speaker 1: So I think that that has generally been the way
29:04
Speaker 1: of fantasy properties to deal with that is to try
29:08
Speaker 1: to make the skin color a does not exist in
29:12
Speaker 1: real life skin color, so that it's no such being
29:16
Speaker 1: a community which had an episode removed because of this,
29:21
Speaker 1: but that was that was specifically because it was also
29:23
Speaker 1: playing into it being compared to black face, which obviously,
29:29
Speaker 1: like those sort of quote unquote edgy jokes, aren't a
29:33
Speaker 1: good fit period. So yeah, well, it's something the geek
29:37
Speaker 1: community has been adjusting for a while. You know, should
29:41
Speaker 1: have should have happened a long time ago. I do
29:43
Speaker 1: think that moving away from natural colors or associated natural
29:49
Speaker 1: colors is probably the best idea at this point, yeah,
29:54
Speaker 1: because otherwise you do run into those issues, which I mean,
29:57
Speaker 1: like intent is one thing, Uh you know, it's it's
30:01
Speaker 1: the impact you have to worry about. So anyway, I
30:04
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think Drits is showing up in
30:06
Speaker 1: the movie at all. Uh maybe Drits will show up
30:09
Speaker 1: in the TV series. We just don't know enough yet,
30:12
Speaker 1: But I am curious to learn more because, as I said,
30:15
Speaker 1: I was unaware that there even was going to be
30:18
Speaker 1: such a thing until today. Yes, I was unaware until
30:22
Speaker 1: today that Edgar Wright was coming out with a new movie.
30:24
Speaker 1: Though I shouldn't have been surprised. Yes, last night in Soho,
30:28
Speaker 1: which appears to have some sort of trippy kind of
30:33
Speaker 1: time travel aspect to it. The trailer shows a young
30:37
Speaker 1: woman who appears to travel back in some form, back
30:43
Speaker 1: to the nineteen sixties and appears to be inhabiting the
30:47
Speaker 1: body of a different woman. And um, you know, you
30:52
Speaker 1: don't get a whole of a real sense of what
30:54
Speaker 1: the movie is about. It's more like ideas and images,
30:59
Speaker 1: and it's very ilized, as Eggar right movies tend to be.
31:02
Speaker 1: And it to me what it reminds me of most
31:06
Speaker 1: is the works of Dario Argento, who is an Italian
31:10
Speaker 1: filmmaker who specialized in a in a genre called jello,
31:15
Speaker 1: which that's Italian for yellow. And these not jello jello,
31:21
Speaker 1: but um are giallo if you want to be if
31:24
Speaker 1: you really want to draw it out, but it's it's
31:26
Speaker 1: a a genre that's marked by films that are really
31:30
Speaker 1: big on suspense. They tend to be detective stories or thrillers.
31:35
Speaker 1: Some of them are horror movies. They tend to be
31:37
Speaker 1: more psychological horror than supernatural horror, though there's some of
31:41
Speaker 1: that as well, so examples of that, like Suspiria is
31:44
Speaker 1: an example of it, the nineteen seven Suspiria. The remake
31:47
Speaker 1: of Suspiria is amazing that doesn't really fall into the
31:50
Speaker 1: jello genre. And then uh Tenner Brey and tons of others.
31:56
Speaker 1: And if you've seen any of that cinema, you know
32:00
Speaker 1: Dario Agenda's work, and you see the trailer for Last
32:03
Speaker 1: Night in Soho, the similarities will leap out at you.
32:07
Speaker 1: You will immediately see the inspiration. And if you aren't
32:10
Speaker 1: familiar with yellow and the trailer looks good, it's a
32:13
Speaker 1: great way to kind of introduce you to a genre
32:16
Speaker 1: of cinema that a lot of Americans probably aren't that
32:19
Speaker 1: familiar with. Yeah, to me, not being very familiar with
32:23
Speaker 1: it myself, it feels very Twilight Sony. Yeah, that's that's
32:28
Speaker 1: a good that's a good comparison because it does tend
32:31
Speaker 1: to have like this sort of dreamlike quality to a
32:35
Speaker 1: lot of the work. Like I said, it has to
32:37
Speaker 1: do a lot with tension and and um thrills and
32:41
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. Um. I think that they are
32:44
Speaker 1: really interesting movies. They I don't know that you would
32:48
Speaker 1: necessarily refer to all of them as being good, but
32:52
Speaker 1: they are captivating. I think I'm going to give it
32:56
Speaker 1: a shot, even if I have to watch it partially
32:58
Speaker 1: through well you know what area, we're running out of time.
33:01
Speaker 1: But I definitely want to talk about tartar grades and
33:04
Speaker 1: shooting them out of a gun. Sure, I saw this
33:08
Speaker 1: headline and I said, well, one, is this real? Uh?
33:14
Speaker 1: And too, of course it is. Um, so scientists, they
33:19
Speaker 1: just legit did put tartar grades and capsules and shoot
33:22
Speaker 1: them out of a gun to see how much forced
33:26
Speaker 1: they could survive. Yeah, and a tartar grade is a
33:30
Speaker 1: microscopic organism, and they are sometimes called water bears. They
33:35
Speaker 1: look like little pudgy bears when you look at them
33:38
Speaker 1: through a microscope, and they are incredibly hardy. They can
33:41
Speaker 1: survive at very low and very high temperatures. They can
33:46
Speaker 1: go into hibernation or cryostasis essentially for years and then recover.
33:52
Speaker 1: They are phenomenal. And so the idea was that let's
33:55
Speaker 1: find out if they could survive, say the impact of
34:00
Speaker 1: a spacecraft or maybe an asteroid hitting a surface like
34:05
Speaker 1: the Moon or the Earth. Because one of the one
34:08
Speaker 1: of the mini theories about how life might have propagated
34:12
Speaker 1: throughout the universe, which we still don't know because we
34:14
Speaker 1: only know of one plant that definitely has life on
34:16
Speaker 1: it and we're there. But anyway, the hypothesis is that
34:22
Speaker 1: organisms like tarte grades might have been on you know,
34:27
Speaker 1: meteors or whatever that then collide with a planet and
34:30
Speaker 1: then the tartar grades survive and then life begins to
34:34
Speaker 1: propagate on that planet. But as it turns out, the
34:39
Speaker 1: research appears to put a nix on that hypothesis. Yes,
34:45
Speaker 1: so they can. Tarte grades can survive at about two
34:50
Speaker 1: thousand miles per hour um before they turn to goog yeah,
34:56
Speaker 1: when they collide with something, and as it turns out
35:00
Speaker 1: as phenomenal as that is, that's still less forced than
35:03
Speaker 1: they would, um, they would experience if they were on
35:07
Speaker 1: say a spacecraft colliding with the Moon or a meteor
35:11
Speaker 1: colliding with a planet surface. Yes, according to Business Insider,
35:17
Speaker 1: that kind of impact is the equivalent of people standing
35:21
Speaker 1: on your back at once. Please. No, no, I don't
35:25
Speaker 1: like the idea of one person standing on my back
35:29
Speaker 1: even Yeah, I don't think I would really like that,
35:33
Speaker 1: that type of massage, you know, just not for me.
35:36
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, no, no, no shade on anyone
35:39
Speaker 1: who that's your thing. It's just not my thing. I
35:42
Speaker 1: mean I've been a part of a human pyramid, so
35:44
Speaker 1: that kind of counts is the same thing, but still
35:48
Speaker 1: not the most pleasant experience. No, and they're even their
35:51
Speaker 1: weight is distributed somewhat. Well. Yeah, this this wraps up
35:56
Speaker 1: our our news items for the main part. We know
35:58
Speaker 1: we're running a little along on this and but it'll
36:00
Speaker 1: be worth it. Trust us. Come back after the break
36:03
Speaker 1: and enjoy our magical mystical mash up. Okay, So ariel um,
36:26
Speaker 1: we have a couple of stories that kind of lead
36:28
Speaker 1: into the properties we decided to mash up today. One
36:32
Speaker 1: of those was the one that I alluded to earlier,
36:34
Speaker 1: that there's going to be a new version of Highlander.
36:38
Speaker 1: We don't know if it's going to be a total
36:41
Speaker 1: reboot that ignores everything that leads up to it, or
36:45
Speaker 1: if it's somehow going to try and fit into some
36:48
Speaker 1: existing Highlander lore. But the word is, according to Deadline anyway,
36:54
Speaker 1: that Henry Cavill is going to be playing the main
36:57
Speaker 1: character in this new Highlander. We don't know if it'll
37:00
Speaker 1: be Connor McLeod from the original or if it will
37:05
Speaker 1: be a new character. That's all we know really. According
37:08
Speaker 1: to you, I'm guessing you wanted to be a new character.
37:11
Speaker 1: News story nothing due into the original. I mean they'll
37:15
Speaker 1: have to be a Highlander or else. The title makes
37:17
Speaker 1: no sense. Well yeah, true, Um, I mean he Henry
37:25
Speaker 1: Cavill on his Instagram said that he's brushing up on
37:27
Speaker 1: his Scottish lore, so possibly Connor McLeod. I think he's
37:34
Speaker 1: a good person to play the character. Uh he's not Scottish.
37:37
Speaker 1: They could also pick a really good Scottish actor, like
37:40
Speaker 1: the the dude who is an Outlander or something. Well, yeah,
37:45
Speaker 1: Christopher Lambert was not Scottish either. The one Scottish actor
37:49
Speaker 1: they had was playing an Egyptian. So, like I said,
37:53
Speaker 1: the original Highlander was all sorts of jacked up. But yeah,
37:57
Speaker 1: we have the director of of John Wick who is
38:00
Speaker 1: going to be directing this, and Kerry Williamson wrote the
38:03
Speaker 1: script for it. But yeah, I don't know any other
38:06
Speaker 1: details about the story or like how, if at all
38:10
Speaker 1: it ties into the older the you know, the pre
38:13
Speaker 1: existing movies and TV series even Yeah, you know, I
38:17
Speaker 1: think the director John could do a good job with
38:20
Speaker 1: this property. Agreed. And what's our other property we're going
38:23
Speaker 1: to be using in our mash up, Willy Wonka, because
38:26
Speaker 1: we're getting yet another origin film. This time it's in
38:30
Speaker 1: concordance with the Ronald Dahl household, and it's starring Timothy
38:34
Speaker 1: shallow May, who apparently beat out Tom Holland for the role.
38:39
Speaker 1: I feel like this is going to be closer to
38:41
Speaker 1: the original one with Jean Wilder, partially because they say
38:43
Speaker 1: there's going to be singing and dancing in it. Um
38:45
Speaker 1: that Wonka will be doing that. But it's gonna have
38:49
Speaker 1: to be awfully origin e because Timothy shallow May is
38:53
Speaker 1: a young in yeah. So, I I have thoughts about
38:58
Speaker 1: prequels in general, and most of the time I think
39:01
Speaker 1: of them as being completely unnecessary and at best they
39:07
Speaker 1: are not distracting, and at worst they are terrible. So
39:12
Speaker 1: but I mean, I shouldn't. I shouldn't immediately judge something
39:17
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything about it. Don't know if it's
39:19
Speaker 1: going to come out as being, you know, great, or
39:23
Speaker 1: if it's going to come out as being a total
39:26
Speaker 1: train wreck. I have no idea, so I shouldn't pre judge.
39:31
Speaker 1: But I don't get a great feeling from it. Maybe
39:34
Speaker 1: it's just because I feel like Willy Wonka is one
39:36
Speaker 1: of those characters where part of the appeal is the mystery.
39:40
Speaker 1: I would have to agree there. That being said, Paul
39:44
Speaker 1: King is working on it, he's directing it, and he
39:46
Speaker 1: did Paddington Two, which was another movie I did not
39:50
Speaker 1: think would work but absolutely was delighted by. It's one
39:54
Speaker 1: of those movies that I keep hearing people say it's like,
39:57
Speaker 1: legitimately one of the best movies they've seen, Like, was
40:00
Speaker 1: one of the best movies I saw that year. I
40:02
Speaker 1: still haven't seen it, and I feel like I need
40:04
Speaker 1: to because of just the praise I've heard for it.
40:08
Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely a kids movie, but I think
40:10
Speaker 1: you would enjoy it. It was it happened to be
40:13
Speaker 1: on TV when I turned it on and I ended
40:17
Speaker 1: up watching the entire thing. It was delightful. Uh, just
40:22
Speaker 1: just enough adult humor in there to keep you interested,
40:28
Speaker 1: that's fair. So we are going to mash up Highlander
40:32
Speaker 1: and we're going to mash up Willy Wonka or Charlie
40:36
Speaker 1: in the Chocolate Factory. I guess I didn't even mention
40:38
Speaker 1: what the concept of Highlander is, so I should probably
40:42
Speaker 1: do that just in case you're not familiar. The concept
40:44
Speaker 1: behind Highlander is that there are amongst us these immortals
40:50
Speaker 1: who are in a contest in which the last surviving
40:55
Speaker 1: immortal will win the prize, which for most of the
41:00
Speaker 1: duration of the film goes unexplained, like you don't know
41:04
Speaker 1: what the prize is. You just know everybody wants it.
41:07
Speaker 1: And the way that the immortals win the contest is
41:10
Speaker 1: they have to lop the heads off of other immortals
41:13
Speaker 1: they come in contact with, and then they kind of
41:15
Speaker 1: absorbed the power of the immortal they've just decapitated. And
41:21
Speaker 1: the main the main antagonism in the film is between
41:27
Speaker 1: Connor McLeod, who is the Highlander of the title, and
41:31
Speaker 1: Clancy Brown's character the Kurgan, who is this ancient immortal
41:36
Speaker 1: from the steps of Russia who has just laid waste
41:41
Speaker 1: through the ranks of these immortals, and it's coming down
41:43
Speaker 1: to the final few immortals, and the question is who's
41:47
Speaker 1: going to win the prize. That's the concept behind Highlander. Yes, um,
41:54
Speaker 1: it sounds like a big old mess and that's what
41:56
Speaker 1: my mashup is as well mine too, so that we
42:00
Speaker 1: have in common for sure. Excellent. I'm gonna go first,
42:07
Speaker 1: go first, my and uh content warning. I guess there's
42:11
Speaker 1: child endangerment, just like in Willy Wonka, and you know,
42:14
Speaker 1: highlanders pretty violent, so there's that. Also. My title has
42:18
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the actual mash up, but enjoy
42:21
Speaker 1: it anyhow. It's called you take the Highlander, I'll take
42:24
Speaker 1: the low Road. I love it already. So Highlanders aren't
42:30
Speaker 1: supposed to have children, but Connor McCloud did. After absorbing
42:34
Speaker 1: the Kurgan's power, he became presumably mortal and had a son. However,
42:38
Speaker 1: he still wasn't all right, and the older Connor's son
42:42
Speaker 1: William grew the more apparent that became his father. Becoming
42:46
Speaker 1: mortal meant that he was now incapable of housing all
42:48
Speaker 1: the energy of the previous immortals and was going mad.
42:52
Speaker 1: Plagued by their memories and wishes, William decided to do
42:55
Speaker 1: something about it, taking on the pseudonym Willy Wonka. For
42:58
Speaker 1: fear that his plans might become known, he might become
43:00
Speaker 1: a target by any other mortals that pop up in
43:04
Speaker 1: the future. He scoured the globe for anyone who would
43:08
Speaker 1: be able to safely remove and contain the maddening power
43:11
Speaker 1: from his father. He found such knowledge in a hidden
43:14
Speaker 1: community of well skilled beings called the Umpa Loompas. You see,
43:18
Speaker 1: long long ago, the Umpa Lompa has had a hand
43:21
Speaker 1: in creating the quickening that happens when you kill a highlander.
43:25
Speaker 1: It's ammense amount of power, and they had regretted it
43:28
Speaker 1: ever since. The immortals battles had caused so much carnage
43:33
Speaker 1: and madness in the world, and the Umpa Loompas wanted
43:36
Speaker 1: to fix what they had started. They advised Willie to
43:38
Speaker 1: build a fortress giant mysterious and fill it with very
43:41
Speaker 1: specific sets of instruments and also with candy, and also
43:46
Speaker 1: instruments that made candy, which the Umpa Loompas needed. The
43:49
Speaker 1: sugar field their rituals to harness and stop the quickening power,
43:52
Speaker 1: and it tasted good. Willie did as instructed, labeling the
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Speaker 1: fortress the Willy Wonka Candy Factory so as not to
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Speaker 1: make local suspicious. I mean, who's suspicious of campy? Right?
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Speaker 1: Then he invited his father for a sneak peek. When
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Speaker 1: Connor McCloud entered the building, he was led to the
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Speaker 1: decontamination chamber, which actually turned out to be a containment chamber.
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Speaker 1: The Umpa Loompas filled it with soda and pop rocks
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Speaker 1: as to create an energy wave that would disrupt the
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Speaker 1: deceased immortals powers inhabiting McCloud. They then took him to
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Speaker 1: the juicing room, where they squeezed the former immortals out
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Speaker 1: of Connor. However, this created a mega quickening surge and
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Speaker 1: all the power in the factory went out. When the
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Speaker 1: power came back on, the Umpa said that they had
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Speaker 1: captured the power, siphoned it into the sphering room, and
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Speaker 1: turned it into foreverlasting gob stoppers. The deceased immortals would
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Speaker 1: no longer be a problem. They would put him in
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Speaker 1: a vault and to be locked away forever. Connor felt better,
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Speaker 1: and Willie slash William was made guardian of the fortress
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Speaker 1: along with the Umpas to make sure the immortals never
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Speaker 1: escaped or released or anything like that. And everything seemed
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Speaker 1: fine for a while. Eventually, William and the umpa Ompas
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Speaker 1: open the factory for tours to children because it's a
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Speaker 1: candy factory, and the townsfolker like, why is this huge
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Speaker 1: factory just sitting here empty? It's been abandoned for years. Uh,
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Speaker 1: And so that's what they did. However, upon the entry
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Speaker 1: of the first children into Willy Wonka's chocolate factory, William
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Speaker 1: learned a dark truth. The immortals had not been captured
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Speaker 1: by the umpall Oompas into forever lasting gob stoppers. The
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Speaker 1: Umpas siphoned the power of the immortals into themselves, and
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Speaker 1: we're trying to kill off the children one by one
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Speaker 1: to use their youthfulness to keep a harness on the
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Speaker 1: immortal's power that they were housing. Would will He be
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Speaker 1: able to stop the upall Ompas before they endangered all
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Speaker 1: the children. Would he be able to keep the locals
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Speaker 1: from realizing what happened? Would he be able to do
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Speaker 1: all this without releasing the immortals power back into the
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Speaker 1: world to be continued, Unlike Highlander, that is set up
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Speaker 1: for a sequel. Yes, okay, Well, mine is called Charlie
46:03
Speaker 1: mcleoud and the Oompa Loompa's Charlie McLeod has a problem.
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Speaker 1: His family is desperately poor, and it doesn't help that
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Speaker 1: both sets of Charlie's grandparents are bedridden. But Charlie has
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Speaker 1: a dream, and that dream is to one day visit
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Speaker 1: the amazing chocolate factory created by the famous Willie Wonka.
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Speaker 1: Wanka has been making chocolate there for as long as
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Speaker 1: anyone can remember. Even Grandpa Joe, who is like a
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Speaker 1: billion years old, can't remember a time when Wonka wasn't there.
46:36
Speaker 1: It's almost like Wonka's immortal Wink Wink. The camera pans
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Speaker 1: up from inside the McCloud's small home, passing through the
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Speaker 1: roof as if it's nothing, and ends up on a
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Speaker 1: glade of trees in Oompa Loompa Land. There we see
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Speaker 1: a figure in silhouette, a thin figure with a top
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Speaker 1: hat carrying a cane. The figure freezes as if it
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Speaker 1: has sensed something, and then you hear the voice. Mirrors,
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Speaker 1: says the voice. It's low and rough, and out from
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Speaker 1: the shadows steps a hulking figure carrying an enormous broad sword.
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Speaker 1: I don't go by that anymore, Kurgan says the silhouetted
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Speaker 1: figure who tumbles into the light. My name is Wonka.
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Speaker 1: He unsheathes a sword from his cane. What follows is
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Speaker 1: a brutal sword fight, with Kurgan using brute strength and
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Speaker 1: Wonka relying on his lightning reflexes. The fight goes back
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Speaker 1: and forth, with Kurgan coming close to overpowering Wonka, when
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Speaker 1: suddenly a horde of Umpa Lumpa's rush to Wonka's assistant assistants,
47:45
Speaker 1: swarming the Kurgan. Another time, Wonka yells the Kurgan que
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Speaker 1: an amazing version of the candy Man can as covered
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Speaker 1: by Queen. Sometime later, the mysterious Wonka releases information there
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Speaker 1: will be a contest. Hidden inside five Wonka bars will
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Speaker 1: be golden tickets. The finders of those tickets will get
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Speaker 1: to visit the Wonka factory, with the ultimate winner being
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Speaker 1: awarded the prize, and so the world goes bananas over
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Speaker 1: finding those tickets. Ultimately, the five tickets find their way
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Speaker 1: to five people, four adults and little Charlie McLeod. The
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Speaker 1: adults include Imman, Facile, Sundar, Castagear, Felicia Martin's and and
48:32
Speaker 1: Devlin And if you get all those references, I'm really impressed.
48:38
Speaker 1: Now I'm skipping over a lot here. But we know
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Speaker 1: Charlie has led to believe his dreams are not going
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Speaker 1: to be realized. But then he finds the ticket, and
48:44
Speaker 1: then Grandpa Joe miraculously figures out how to walk again,
48:48
Speaker 1: thus making us all think he's been essentially a lazy
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Speaker 1: faker for years. But anyway, they sing a song and
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Speaker 1: it's all okay, and they go to the factory. Oh,
48:57
Speaker 1: except before they do all that, Charlie has to run
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Speaker 1: home when he finds the ticket, and he encounters a strange,
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Speaker 1: hulking man, and upon seeing him, Charlie feels the sort
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Speaker 1: of weird energy and he kind of feels a little
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Speaker 1: sick to his stomach. And the man introduces himself as
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Speaker 1: Kurgan slug Worst and he wants Charlie to help him
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Speaker 1: undermine Wonka, but Charlie just runs home without listening to
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Speaker 1: the offer. Okay, when the winners all arrive at Wonka's factory,
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Speaker 1: there's a weird thing that happens. It was a clear
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Speaker 1: day when they got there, but suddenly, as they approach
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Speaker 1: each other, clouds up here and the sound of thunder
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Speaker 1: fills the air, and all the people who found tickets
49:29
Speaker 1: they all feel a little off, you know, almost like
49:31
Speaker 1: they're a little sick. But of course they're about to
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Speaker 1: go into a candy factory, so they just hide that
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Speaker 1: fact from their families because it ain't no one going
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Speaker 1: to stop the going into that candy factory. Some of
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Speaker 1: the adults, the four adults, they seem to know each other,
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Speaker 1: and they're really uneasy. But Charlie's just kind of focused
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Speaker 1: on the fact that he's about to go into the
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Speaker 1: chocolate factory. And then Wonka comes out and the feeling
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Speaker 1: hits them again. It's it's really strong. I mean, Wonka
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Speaker 1: is strong. So Wonka eyes and take in the five
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Speaker 1: winners and he invites them in and in a series
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Speaker 1: of humorous and absurd speeches, he implies that one of
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Speaker 1: these five winners will walk away with a prize of
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Speaker 1: great value, but that to do this they all must
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Speaker 1: be observant and keep their minds open. So they go
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Speaker 1: inside the factory and they see some amazing things, including
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Speaker 1: a room filled with candy swords, and each of the
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Speaker 1: ticket finders gets to pick out a candy sword, and
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Speaker 1: Charlie McLeod is drawn to a glorious candy katana. And
50:30
Speaker 1: then all heck breaks loose because just as the winners
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Speaker 1: have picked out their weapons, Kurgan slug Worth appears and
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Speaker 1: the four other winners all seem like they are guilty
50:40
Speaker 1: about something like maybe they've been working with Kurgan slug Worth,
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Speaker 1: but Charlie, who turned down slug worst offer, is just confused.
50:47
Speaker 1: And then slug Worth has this massive fight with all
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Speaker 1: the ticket finders, and one after another, pop pop pop,
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Speaker 1: he takes off their heads. Thunk goes facills Noggin, Bunk
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Speaker 1: goes cast a gear and He's head flies down the
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Speaker 1: trash shoot and Felicia soon follows suit. Then the Umpa
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Speaker 1: Lompas decided they have to sing a song Boom bah
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Speaker 1: loomp bah ta de do I've got another puzzle for you?
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Speaker 1: Woom bah loompa tupa d D If you're immortal. You'll
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Speaker 1: listen to me. What do you get when they cut
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Speaker 1: off your head about a foot short urn, totally dead.
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Speaker 1: We think it's sick how they take your quick That
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Speaker 1: immortal dude is such uh dick. I don't like the Kurgan.
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Speaker 1: Oomp bah loomp bah tupada. If your ra mirrez, you
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Speaker 1: will go far wom bah loomp ba tad do. But
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Speaker 1: the Kurgan still will kill you. Charlie, who had tried
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Speaker 1: desperately to protect the others, hold on. Coming to the end. Charlie,
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Speaker 1: who had tried desperately to protect the others despite the
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Speaker 1: fact that they were all obviously really rotten and terrible,
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Speaker 1: is distraught, and at that point Wonka himself steps forward.
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Speaker 1: Run home. Charlie says, Wonka, run home and don't stop
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Speaker 1: along the way, but Charlie stays there. He refuses to
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Speaker 1: abandon Wonka. So Wonka and Kurgan fight again, and in
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Speaker 1: a quiet moment in the fight, Wonka sees that Charlie
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Speaker 1: has remained behind, and he says, my boy, you've won,
52:33
Speaker 1: and then Wyonka, with a look of acceptance, lowers his
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Speaker 1: blade and allowing Kurgan to lop off his head. And PLoP.
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Speaker 1: It goes right into the chocolate river. Charlie, shocked, immediately
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Speaker 1: rushes the Kurgan and he attacks in the flurry with
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Speaker 1: a spectacular display of speed and skill. The candy coating
52:50
Speaker 1: of the katana shatters and reveals that underneath was you know,
52:53
Speaker 1: an actual katana, and the Kurgan, caught off guard and
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Speaker 1: exhausted by his earliest fights, finds himself on the defense
53:00
Speaker 1: of and in a crazy spinning move, Charlie decapitates the Kurgan.
53:04
Speaker 1: The Kurgan's body slumps over the MPa limpas start to
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Speaker 1: clear away the carnage, and Charlie's body is lifted up
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Speaker 1: into the air as incredible energy runs through it, shattering glass,
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Speaker 1: including the elevator, and making lights explode. And when he
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Speaker 1: touches down, he discovers that he has in fact won
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Speaker 1: the prize a lifetime supply of chocolate and since he's immortal,
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Speaker 1: that's a really long time. The end. That was amazing. Wow. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I apologize for my singing. I'm not in
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Speaker 1: good voice today, but I thought it was beautiful, Jonathan.
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Speaker 1: And also you should totally like TM that so that
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Speaker 1: they can't steal that for the screen. Um, I'm pretty
53:47
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident that they're not going to go down
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Speaker 1: that direction, but I appreciate the input. I mean, they might,
53:54
Speaker 1: they might. These are two new things happening. They might
53:57
Speaker 1: team up. Also, it's nice to have a second child Highlander.
54:02
Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, well, you know what when I
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Speaker 1: first wrote this, when I started writing the first draft,
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Speaker 1: I I originally had it with the the kids from
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Speaker 1: willy Wonkas, like Augustus Globe and Violet Beauregard and you know,
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Speaker 1: Veruca Salt and all them. But as I was writing,
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Speaker 1: I thought, I don't I don't want to capitate kids,
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Speaker 1: so I so I went back and changed it. I
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Speaker 1: get that I might. I might have Tonetown my my
54:30
Speaker 1: massive a mashup as well, a little bit. Yeah, but
54:34
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54:37
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Speaker 1: they really want to hear a Queen cover of The
54:42
Speaker 1: Candy Man Can. Yes, yes, that would be spectacular. So
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