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Defining The New Normal With LUCIUS BORICH From COG · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Hi, Lucius Borich, drummer and songwriter for the band COG.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a tour coming up, a bit more of
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  Speaker 1: an a regional kind of tour and we're we're we've
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  Speaker 1: dubbed the part two of the Vinyl Tour, so it's
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  Speaker 1: a continuation of the first half that we did in
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the year.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, here I am.
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  Speaker 3: Codd start the second leg of the Vinyl Tour on
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  Speaker 3: October to fourth in Victoria before hitting Bar and Bay
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  Speaker 3: w A for a few shows and ending up with
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  Speaker 3: the Crowbar in Sydney as part of the Birthday week
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  Speaker 3: on November twenty ninth. Mate, Like, there's been a bit
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  Speaker 3: of time between the first run and this run, so
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  Speaker 3: you to get back out of the road.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: There was quite a bit of a who ha with
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  Speaker 1: the dms from people saying well, wh aren't you coming
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  Speaker 1: to w A or why aren't you coming here? And
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  Speaker 1: so it definitely made sense to when we had the
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  Speaker 1: right timing between the three of us and the crew
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  Speaker 1: and every thing to kind of forge the next part
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  Speaker 1: of it really, So yeah, it worked out pretty well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you've already played some shows in Soubusraa Queensland,
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  Speaker 3: New South Wales and act back in March.
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  Speaker 4: So how they go down me and how were they received?
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  Speaker 2: Really good? It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a really great you know between between the
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  Speaker 1: three of us. You know, obviously it was based more
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  Speaker 1: around sharing space and the new normal and it really
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  Speaker 1: felt and I guess obviously with the with the people
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  Speaker 1: who came to the shows as well, it felt very
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  Speaker 1: you know, almost like we were re releasing that music
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  Speaker 1: to some degree, which we were because we were doing
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  Speaker 1: it on vinyl, yes, in that capacity, but it's just
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  Speaker 1: had an error about it that time. I think everyone
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  Speaker 1: was excited about, you know, romantically reminiscing about when you know,
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  Speaker 1: those albums came out and we got together and and
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  Speaker 1: you know created a good little vibe in the room
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  Speaker 1: together you know, playing and all the rest of it
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  Speaker 1: was and it was very similar. We had that air
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  Speaker 1: to it, which was which was really good. And we
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  Speaker 1: don't play too much so as much as we'd probably like.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, everyone seemed you know, very very happily, you know,
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  Speaker 1: stoked about what happened, and so well we was.
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  Speaker 2: It was really good fun.
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  Speaker 3: I think these next show is going to be morell
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  Speaker 3: the same. Are you're going to change things up a
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  Speaker 3: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: No, basic, We're still going to base it around the
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  Speaker 1: two albums, you know, Sharing Space and New Normal and
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  Speaker 1: probably keep a similar a similar set which we thought
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  Speaker 1: random pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, we didn't really.
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  Speaker 1: Get to play enough of it on the first on
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  Speaker 1: the first run, you know, I think we did eight
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  Speaker 1: or ten dates, so you just wanted to keep kind
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  Speaker 1: of playing, you know, again and try to try to
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  Speaker 1: do the show again and again. So this gives us
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to kind of play the same show again
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  Speaker 1: and obviously go to different places.
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  Speaker 3: And so suppose that there's still one or two people
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  Speaker 3: out there who haven't seen TOG Live before, mate, like
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  Speaker 3: run us through a typical COG live show.
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  Speaker 1: Look, it's pretty there's nothing too fancy about it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we don't. I've never never been one for it to
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  Speaker 1: be fancy. Bells and whistles and jumps and you know,
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  Speaker 1: come on, let's marsh you know, and all that type
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  Speaker 1: of stuff. It's it's really about the music, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: everything else kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Adds to it. Yes, the light show adds to it.
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  Speaker 1: We get a bit of that going on, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes we have a backdrop and bits and pieces, and
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  Speaker 1: but you know, I think really where we are no
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  Speaker 1: thrills kind of band, taking it back to just you know,
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  Speaker 1: the music.
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  Speaker 2: We don't.
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  Speaker 1: We pretty much wear the same clothes we've always worn
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  Speaker 1: since you know, back in the day. You know, we
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  Speaker 1: don't really we want it to be about the music.
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  Speaker 1: We want the experience to be about the music, even
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  Speaker 1: to some degree removing us, you know, like, yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: add value and we play that. We play the music
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  Speaker 1: and we're there and you can we have that into relationship.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, sonically and vibrationally and tone, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with the tones of the sounds and everything like that,
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  Speaker 1: and you know what we're doing dynamically, hopefull, it's the
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  Speaker 1: music that is the show and is more of the
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  Speaker 1: star than say, you know, three of us on stage
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  Speaker 1: or the light show or even the venue for that case.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's really about the music. So that's what
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  Speaker 1: I've always liked about certain bands. You know, yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: had the nice stuff there to I guess, you know,
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  Speaker 1: had a little bit more spice or you know, or
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  Speaker 1: color here and there. But musically, if it's not really
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  Speaker 1: translating and that songs aren't that good. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: when I'm at a show anyway, it doesn't matter how
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  Speaker 1: many bells and whistles and things like that that they have,
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  Speaker 1: it just doesn't move me, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So we really just try to keep it as much
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  Speaker 1: as possible just about the music and obviously play as
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  Speaker 1: passionate as we can.
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  Speaker 3: You've been doing this for a long time now, bro,
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  Speaker 3: So does during life still appear to you as much
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  Speaker 3: as it used to?
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  Speaker 4: And what sorts of things do you do to keep
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  Speaker 4: it interesting these days? Well?
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  Speaker 1: I still Yeah, I think just traveling in, you know,
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  Speaker 1: regardless of whether you're playing music or not, as fun
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  Speaker 1: to do, you know, like just exploring. So I think
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  Speaker 1: that's exciting. You know, music is a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: vehicle for us to do that. So that never gets
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  Speaker 1: you know, kind of old or stale.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: There's always seems to be new venues popping up too.
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  Speaker 1: Every now and again, there's new Like from the last
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  Speaker 1: tour we played a bunch of new venues that we'd
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  Speaker 1: never played before and that was that was really cool,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so new environments and you know, and you
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  Speaker 1: see how cities change and environments change as you as
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  Speaker 1: you move around and as you tour over time, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I guess we get to tour in a way that's
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  Speaker 1: not too bunched up. So it's not like you're doing
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  Speaker 1: four show and then you know, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: you've got a couple of days off and then you're
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  Speaker 1: back into five shows or whatever. Because we've got other
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  Speaker 1: jobs and everything as well and businesses, we try to
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  Speaker 1: keep it to like, you know, one or two shows
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  Speaker 1: a week just so we can really maximize those shows
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  Speaker 1: with you know, us being a match bit as possible
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  Speaker 1: and and not kind of wearing ourselves out, so to speak,
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  Speaker 1: so that you know, the people get the best the
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  Speaker 1: best bang for their buck so to speak, if you
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  Speaker 1: if you will, and you know, we like to have
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  Speaker 1: that time as as as a band as you know,
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  Speaker 1: as a group and you know, our crew and everything
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  Speaker 1: to get together. It's like a good excuse to get
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  Speaker 1: together and be together again and have some fun and
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  Speaker 1: you know, kind of hang out and have a few.
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  Speaker 2: Laughs and play some music.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it doesn't it doesn't get tiring for me,
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  Speaker 1: or it doesn't get boring or anything like that. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it would be nice to go to a few more
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  Speaker 1: places maybe overseas, but that's obviously a financial thing that
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  Speaker 1: we just can't achieve, you know, So we just keep
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  Speaker 1: it local as best as we.
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  Speaker 2: Can, and yeah, you know, drive it home as beat
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  Speaker 2: as we can.
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  Speaker 3: Now, as you mentioned before, the vinyl Toura, as a
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  Speaker 3: name suggests, is celebrating the release on vinyl for the
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  Speaker 3: first time ever of sharing space and a new normal.
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  Speaker 3: So did the fans react to the vinyl as well
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  Speaker 3: as you thought they would?
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  Speaker 1: A lot of great feedback, yeah, and a couple not
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  Speaker 1: too good feedback. So it was definitely more in the
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  Speaker 1: percentage of positive than negative. But the negative was more
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  Speaker 1: just some of the Unfortunately, when you when you try
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  Speaker 1: to you know, produce these types of organic physical products,
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  Speaker 1: there can be times where some things, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: don't meet the mark. You might get a bump or
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  Speaker 1: you know, a song does it kind of your skips
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  Speaker 1: a track or or something like that, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: you're pressing and you're cunning vinyl, which is which is
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  Speaker 1: pretty standard, which has gone out you know obviously over
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  Speaker 1: the ages with vinyl, there's you can have some problems,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so you know, we tried our best to
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  Speaker 1: amend those and make sure the people obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because they've they've obviously paid up front. They finally got
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  Speaker 1: there because we had a real quite a hard time
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  Speaker 1: actually trying to trying to get the vinyl was first
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  Speaker 1: of supposed to be done.
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  Speaker 2: In the Czech Republic.
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  Speaker 1: First that pin got pulled, so then everything had to
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  Speaker 1: be reverted back to Melbourne, and we still wanted to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that the quality was going to be there
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  Speaker 1: and all the rest of it. So we had to
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  Speaker 1: do testing and it just took a lot longer than
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  Speaker 1: we thought. But we still had some anomalies that were
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  Speaker 1: a little bit you know, funky here and there, and
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  Speaker 1: but overall everyone was really really stoked, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: but that's part of that process, you know, just just
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  Speaker 1: trying to physically get that product to a point where
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  Speaker 1: it's one hundred percent. You know, not all of them
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  Speaker 1: are going to kind of kind of breach the mark.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, the majority did pretty much ninety percent, you know, did,
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  Speaker 1: so that's good.
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  Speaker 4: Is there any left of people still want to get
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  Speaker 4: their hands on or the sell out?
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  Speaker 2: Look, I only think there's a few left.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not there's not many, so, you know, don't
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  Speaker 1: know if we'll ever press in you again, so we're
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  Speaker 1: not in this format anyway. If we go to press
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  Speaker 1: some more, it might be more in a different you know,
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  Speaker 1: because this time we really you know, it was one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and eighty grams. It was you know, the artworkers
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  Speaker 1: on the albums, you know, we made sure there was kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of color and variety, which was cool.
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  Speaker 1: But we might just go back to maybe a typical
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  Speaker 1: black and and that type of thing next time.
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  Speaker 2: But there's only yeah, I don't think there's.
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  Speaker 1: Many left, you know, at the at the at this point,
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, you definitely want to kind of jump in.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be selling them on the on the run of
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  Speaker 1: the shows, on the on the vinyl tour, so you
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  Speaker 1: know if you're there and you want to pick one
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  Speaker 1: up at the show, that they'll be there for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of that too, a bro like, I know Sydney
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  Speaker 3: sold out, but there's still a few tickets left for
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  Speaker 3: the other shows. So where do people go to get themselves?
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  Speaker 4: Check it?
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  Speaker 1: Definitely go onto cog dot com dot au so our
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  Speaker 1: webs all right, and like sign up to the newsletter.
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  Speaker 1: That's super important. Put your email in there because we
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  Speaker 1: communicate through.
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  Speaker 2: There as well.
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  Speaker 1: But we've got all the links on the site, the homepage.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as you hit the homepage, you'll see a
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  Speaker 1: link to oz ticks. You know, you can go to
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  Speaker 1: our Instagram. We've got a link tree in there. We've
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  Speaker 1: got links. We're always throwing the links in so it's
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  Speaker 1: not not too hard to find. But yeah, OZ kicks
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  Speaker 1: And then you put cog in and that would that
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  Speaker 1: should bring up the vinyl tour.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I'm not going to ask you if you've got
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  Speaker 3: any new material coming out, because I always get the
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  Speaker 3: same stand answer from you. But what I ask is
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  Speaker 3: will you be playing in these songs at these shows?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 4: Pretty well too. I'm gad I didn't ask.
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  Speaker 3: Before we even started a new thing up where we
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  Speaker 3: go through your old photos and we pick a couple
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  Speaker 3: out and we ask you to sort of give us
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  Speaker 3: a bit of an explanation about them.
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  Speaker 4: So, okay, I found this one from your kid, what like.
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  Speaker 1: A yeah, like I was saying, ratting a bread tin? Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so that so you want an explanation for that on,
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  Speaker 1: let me just get my put my goggles on real quick. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: like a rat in a bread tin.
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  Speaker 2: So that was done.
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  Speaker 1: By my drum tech Roger and he surprised me. So
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  Speaker 1: I walked out and you know, maybe it might have
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  Speaker 1: been I don't know why he chose that phrase, but
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  Speaker 1: we I think it was going around in the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the cog camp like a ratt in a bread tin
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  Speaker 1: for some reason.
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  Speaker 2: We were saying that credit quite a.
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  Speaker 1: Bit, and he put it on my drums and I
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  Speaker 1: walked out there to play the show, and that was
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  Speaker 1: that was on there.
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  Speaker 2: But he got the idea.
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  Speaker 1: Because in the film clip run, when we did the
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  Speaker 1: film clip run and a response to the three imbeciles
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  Speaker 1: that were kind of politically putting together the campaign during
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  Speaker 1: nine to eleven, I wrote Bush, Howard and Blair fuck
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  Speaker 1: off on my drums back in the day, so he
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  Speaker 1: kind of copied it, but it wasn't It's not as
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  Speaker 1: good as the one I originally did. That was, for sure,
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  Speaker 1: but still right intention good intention there from from Roger,
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  Speaker 1: but more.
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  Speaker 4: For you, mate.
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  Speaker 3: But I know you're strapped at crime, so I won't
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  Speaker 3: worry about showing you this time, but on the next
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  Speaker 3: one I'll get you around.
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  Speaker 4: On the next next run round.
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  Speaker 2: All right, sure, thanks for your time, Lucia.
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  Speaker 3: Is always a pleasure speak with you, my friends. But
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  Speaker 3: Tore does kick off, Chris, I was actually gonna when
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  Speaker 3: I was doing the research, I was going to say,
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  Speaker 3: why the fuck day Queens Flann Show, And then I
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  Speaker 3: realized that you've already been here, so I'll like to
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  Speaker 3: catch you next.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you never know there might be a sneaky
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  Speaker 1: one that might pop in here and there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so we're always kind of waiting for something to pop up,
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  Speaker 1: if it's if it makes if it makes sense, so
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  Speaker 1: you never know.
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  Speaker 4: If you brother, and you take care, we'll catch up
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  Speaker 4: with you surely.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks mate, good to see you. Take care