Latest / The Front / ‘I’m not a little creep’: Beau Lamarre-Condon in the witness box
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Today's biggest news from The Australian. I'm Kristen Amiott with
- 0:04Speaker 1: the front's afternoon headlines. Accused killer cop Beau Lamar Condon
- 0:10Speaker 1: admits he watched through a window as his ex-lover slept
- 0:13Speaker 1: with another man, but denies he was stalking him after
- 0:16Speaker 1: their relationship ended. In a long afternoon of testimony, Lamar
- 0:20Speaker 1: Condon gave evidence before a jury in the New South
- 0:23Speaker 1: Wales Supreme Court. where he's on trial for murdering TV
- 0:26Speaker 1: presenter Jesse Baird and Baird's partner, flight attendant Luke Davies,
- 0:31Speaker 1: at Baird's Paddington share house in 2024. The former New
- 0:34Speaker 1: South Wales police officer has pleaded not guilty to two
- 0:37Speaker 1: counts of domestic violence-related murder and one count of aggravated
- 0:41Speaker 1: break and enter. He entered the witness box on Thursday
- 0:45Speaker 1: after the Crown concluded evidence in its case. More than
- 0:48Speaker 1: 60 witnesses have given evidence and over 100 exhibits have
- 0:53Speaker 1: been entered into evidence in the first six weeks of
- 0:55Speaker 1: the marathon trial, which is expected to last around three months.
- 1:00Speaker 1: The Crown alleges Lamar Condon stalked Baird for several months
- 1:03Speaker 1: before posing as an Uber Eats delivery driver and entering
- 1:07Speaker 1: Baird's share house on the morning of February 19, 2024,
- 1:11Speaker 1: using a key he'd stolen or copied and carrying his
- 1:14Speaker 1: police-issued Glock pistol. Prosecutor Brett Hatfield SC told the court
- 1:19Speaker 1: Lamar Condon then twice shot Jesse Baird, who was in
- 1:22Speaker 1: the home's kitchen, before shooting Luke Davies through a bedroom door.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Evidence presented by The Crown suggests Lamar Condon then spent
- 1:30Speaker 1: several days attempting to cover up his alleged crime, before
- 1:33Speaker 1: dumping Baird and Davies' bodies on a property two hours
- 1:36Speaker 1: southwest of Sydney. In his opening address to the jury,
- 1:40Speaker 1: Lamar Condon's barrister John Stratton, SC, said Lamar Condon is
- 1:44Speaker 1: not guilty of the murders and was acting in self-defence
- 1:47Speaker 1: when Baird and Davies were fatally shot. Stratton said his
- 1:51Speaker 1: client accidentally shot Baird, whom he dated casually for about
- 1:54Speaker 1: a year, before struggling with Davies, who fatally shot himself
- 1:58Speaker 1: in the brawl. Lamar Condon handed himself into detectives at
- 2:02Speaker 1: a police station in Sydney's eastern suburbs several days later,
- 2:06Speaker 1: on February 23, 2024, where he was arrested and charged.
- 2:11Speaker 1: Lamar Condon told the court on Thursday afternoon he started
- 2:15Speaker 1: seeing Baird casually in late 2022. He said he regularly
- 2:19Speaker 1: stayed at Baird's share house while they were dating, and
- 2:22Speaker 1: that Baird would leave a key to the house in
- 2:24Speaker 1: the mailbox for him to let himself in. A voice
- 2:27Speaker 1: actor is reading the words spoken by Beau Lamar Condon
- 2:29Speaker 1: in court.
- 2:30Speaker 2: It was a very common occurrence that he would, so
- 2:34Speaker 2: I got into his house in Paddington. I'd let myself
- 2:37Speaker 2: in with consent with the key he gave me.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Lamar Condon said Baird gave him a copy of the
- 2:42Speaker 1: key for the home's internal door later in 2023. He
- 2:46Speaker 1: said he planned to end his casual relationship with Jesse
- 2:49Speaker 1: Baird in early 2023 after stumbling upon messages between Baird
- 2:54Speaker 1: and another man, and discovering Baird still had an active
- 2:57Speaker 1: profile on the dating app Tinder.
- 3:00Speaker 2: I told him that I'd looked at messages between him
- 3:02Speaker 2: and the other man. I told him, obviously, this made
- 3:05Speaker 2: me feel a bit upset because I thought we were
- 3:07Speaker 2: moving towards being, I guess, a couple, you could say.
- 3:11Speaker 2: He became emotional and started crying and said that he
- 3:14Speaker 2: wasn't ready for a relationship with anyone, not just me.
- 3:17Speaker 2: And obviously, I told Jesse I was looking for something
- 3:20Speaker 2: more serious, and I told Jesse I think I need
- 3:23Speaker 2: a few weeks off. just to let my romantic feelings
- 3:26Speaker 2: settle for if we want to continue a friendship or
- 3:29Speaker 2: a sexual relationship. Jesse then said, please let me know
- 3:33Speaker 2: when you're ready to hang out again. I'd love to
- 3:35Speaker 2: have you back in my life and see you often.
- 3:38Speaker 2: And I said I would let him know when I
- 3:39Speaker 2: was ready. It was very amicable.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Denying an allegation he'd watched Baird having sex with other
- 3:44Speaker 1: men through Baird's window, Lamar Condon said the encounter happened
- 3:48Speaker 1: accidentally when he went to Baird's home to collect his
- 3:51Speaker 1: belongings after they agreed to take a break.
- 3:54Speaker 2: I went to knock on the window, but I did
- 3:56Speaker 2: not knock because I saw him having sex with a male.
- 3:59Speaker 2: I kind of froze until the realisation hit. I did
- 4:02Speaker 2: not stay and watch him like a little creep. I
- 4:05Speaker 2: did not take any photos of Jesse Baird. I left
- 4:08Speaker 2: and actually laughed about it with friends.
- 4:10Speaker 1: He also said he'd never sought out CCTV footage of
- 4:13Speaker 1: Jesse Baird on a date with another man after their
- 4:16Speaker 1: first split, but that the footage was viewed as part
- 4:19Speaker 1: of a police inquiry into a possible assault at a
- 4:21Speaker 1: venue where he'd gone to visit Baird. Lamar Condon said
- 4:25Speaker 1: he and Jessie Baird resumed a sexual relationship following the
- 4:28Speaker 1: former cop's birthday in June of 2023. It was around
- 4:32Speaker 1: this time that Lamar Condon admits he entered Baird's home
- 4:35Speaker 1: using the key from the mailbox and took Baird's phone.
- 4:39Speaker 1: He said he placed a bobby pin in the front
- 4:41Speaker 1: door lock as a decoy in case Baird woke up.
- 4:44Speaker 1: When Baird woke and chased Lamar Condon onto the street,
- 4:47Speaker 1: Lamar Condon said he threw Baird's phone, which slid into
- 4:50Speaker 1: a roadside drain. Baird reported the incident to police. And
- 4:54Speaker 1: Lamar Condon said he never disclosed he was the one
- 4:57Speaker 1: in the Paddington home that night.
- 4:59Speaker 2: I just didn't want to have that awkward conversation with
- 5:01Speaker 2: him because it was stupid and I admit that it
- 5:04Speaker 2: was stupid.
- 5:05Speaker 1: Lamar Condon said later he admitted to Baird he'd blocked
- 5:08Speaker 1: a contact he considered a romantic rival in Baird's phone
- 5:12Speaker 1: and also that he'd posted an Instagram story suggesting Baird
- 5:15Speaker 1: had sent him flowers when he hadn't.
- 5:17Speaker 2: I didn't block anyone else. I didn't unfollow anyone else.
- 5:21Speaker 2: I didn't do anything to anyone else on Jessie's phone.
- 5:24Speaker 1: The pair broke up again in November of 2023 at
- 5:27Speaker 1: Baird's suggestion. Lamar Condon said he returned money Baird had
- 5:31Speaker 1: given him for a planned trip to Bali, which Lamar
- 5:33Speaker 1: Condon later embarked on with a friend. The former cop
- 5:36Speaker 1: said he avoided Paddington until January of 2024 because he
- 5:40Speaker 1: didn't want to bump into Jesse Baird, and claimed the
- 5:43Speaker 1: next time he saw him was on the morning of
- 5:45Speaker 1: the alleged murders. He said comments made to a friend
- 5:48Speaker 1: around the start of the year about helping to hide
- 5:51Speaker 1: a body were said in jest, as prompted by a
- 5:53Speaker 1: script he was preparing for acting classes he planned to
- 5:57Speaker 1: commence in the coming weeks. Lamar Condon said he asked
- 6:00Speaker 1: the same friend if he could hire a van in
- 6:02Speaker 1: her name because he needed to purchase and collect a
- 6:05Speaker 1: new mattress, and his license was suspended. He later allegedly
- 6:09Speaker 1: transported Jessie Baird and Luke Davey's bodies to the property
- 6:13Speaker 1: in Bungonia in a rented van. Reflecting on his work
- 6:17Speaker 1: as a police officer, Lamar Condon said he'd encountered multiple
- 6:20Speaker 1: suicides and fatalities during his time as a duty cop,
- 6:24Speaker 1: including the death of a colleague who took his own
- 6:26Speaker 1: life at his desk, but that he and other officers
- 6:29Speaker 1: weren't given time off to process the trauma that came
- 6:32Speaker 1: with their jobs. Lamar Condon claimed he was subjected to
- 6:35Speaker 1: homophobia and bullying during his time with the NSW Police Force.
- 6:40Speaker 2: I didn't want to be at work anymore and I
- 6:42Speaker 2: loved my job. I loved helping youths and I felt
- 6:45Speaker 2: like I was going to let them down if I
- 6:47Speaker 2: didn't show up to work. It was getting too much
- 6:50Speaker 2: for me and it made me feel like having thoughts
- 6:52Speaker 2: of wanting to take my life.
- 6:54Speaker 1: The former police officer became upset as he said he'd
- 6:57Speaker 1: considered taking his own life at his office at the
- 6:59Speaker 1: St George PCYC near Coggera in late 2023 but was
- 7:04Speaker 1: interrupted by a knock on the door. He also told
- 7:07Speaker 1: the court he later attempted to hang himself in the
- 7:09Speaker 1: Royal National Park and said he started seeing a psychologist
- 7:13Speaker 1: after his mother, also a former police officer, said he'd
- 7:16Speaker 1: lose his job if he was placed on a psychiatric hold.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Lamar Condon said he was so distressed by what he
- 7:22Speaker 1: called a toxic workplace that he also considered suiciding on
- 7:26Speaker 1: the trip to Bali over New Year's in 2023, so
- 7:30Speaker 1: none of his former colleagues and first responders would have
- 7:32Speaker 1: to find his body. He said he mentioned to his
- 7:35Speaker 1: travel companion they should look for firearms in Indonesia for
- 7:38Speaker 1: practice shooting at a gun range, but that he never
- 7:41Speaker 1: intended to bring any guns with him back to Australia
- 7:44Speaker 1: because he knew they wouldn't clear customs. The former cop
- 7:47Speaker 1: agreed with his barrister's suggestion he could obtain an illegal
- 7:50Speaker 1: firearm in Australia if he wanted to. The jury previously
- 7:54Speaker 1: heard a covertly recorded prison meeting between Lamar Condon and
- 7:58Speaker 1: a friend captured in December. A call made by Lamar.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Condon to a police assistance line following the disappearance of
- 8:05Speaker 2: Baird and Davies was also.
- 8:06Speaker 3: Previously played in court. I've been bullied by multiple New
- 8:29Speaker 3: South Wales police force members.
- 8:32Speaker 4: Multiple police force members.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Yep.
- 8:39Speaker 3: And when reporting bullying against myself, no action has been taken.
- 8:47Speaker 4: Myself, no action has.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Yep.
- 8:53Speaker 4: All this stress and trauma has caused me not sleep,
- 9:05Speaker 4: yet anxious.
- 9:09Speaker 1: The court also heard Lamar Condon allegedly confess to the
- 9:12Speaker 1: killings to friends. Both Jessie Baird and Luke Davey's mothers,
- 9:16Speaker 1: as well as Baird's father, were in court to hear
- 9:19Speaker 1: Lamar Condon's evidence on Thursday. He'll return to the witness
- 9:22Speaker 1: box in the NSW Supreme Court in Sydney on Friday,
- 9:25Speaker 1: with cross-examination to follow likely next week. You can follow
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- 9:45Speaker 1: Friday morning.