Latest / Privycast / Ep. 76 Homunculus
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- 0:00>> Speaker A: Could you imagine if your doctor was also, like,
- 0:03really into alchemy? Like, no thanks.
- 0:07Actually, no, thanks. I feel weird
- 0:09going to a doctor if I know they
- 0:12vape or, like, smoker.
- 0:29Welcome back to privy. Privy
- 0:32is a podcast about bathrooms
- 0:35recorded from my home
- 0:37bathroom. I'm your host,
- 0:40Hunter Hoover, and I love
- 0:42bathrooms. Quick, uh, check
- 0:45in. Uh, November
- 0:48is here. We've arrived. We've made it.
- 0:51I've got to be honest. Um,
- 0:54I work strange schedules. I work at a school,
- 0:58at a public high school. Shout, uh,
- 1:01out. Uh, and I work at a
- 1:03church. I work with teens. And
- 1:07October, November and December are the busy
- 1:09seasons. So this episode is pre recorded.
- 1:13But that doesn't mean that we can't get
- 1:15into.
- 1:19Really get some tongue on those lips. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:22That's what she said. Uh,
- 1:25it's November. Get yourself in the
- 1:28mood, if you will. Um, you know what's
- 1:30weird, by the way, here on privy,
- 1:33it's still
- 1:37spoop key season
- 1:39because we are
- 1:42but five mere days removed
- 1:45from that spooky nerduel Hallows Eve
- 1:48holiday. And what's weird about
- 1:50holidays is this
- 1:54is my brief Jerry Seinfeld
- 1:56bit at the front of the episode. What's the deal with
- 1:59Holland? No, but the weird thing is,
- 2:02I call it the, like,
- 2:05we're not going to talk about what I call it, but it has to do with the
- 2:08load. And anyway, but,
- 2:10uh, there's this notion that
- 2:14you can be more amped and
- 2:16in the holiday spirit, let's take.
- 2:19It's. It's right upon us. It's right.
- 2:22I can almost taste it. And if
- 2:25you're like me, I used to get Tim Gettys get
- 2:28hyped for Christmas at, like,
- 2:32November 1, Halloween
- 2:35night. The tree used to go up. Now, my
- 2:37sweet son, his birthday is November
- 2:402. And so we cannot let
- 2:43the Christmas season overshadow his
- 2:46day. And so we wait. We
- 2:49hold off on the Christmas cheer. Now, what I
- 2:52want to point out is a
- 2:54guy like me can get in the holiday
- 2:57cheer month to a month
- 3:00and a half before the holiday
- 3:02arrives. But what's weird
- 3:05is the day after the
- 3:07holiday happens, it's like, yeah, it's kind of
- 3:10done now. I'm, um, still kind of into
- 3:13it. But we did the thing, and
- 3:16that's what happens for spooky season. We
- 3:19get to the end of October, and we instantly go, man, I, uh,
- 3:22guess things are done being a little creepy. Not
- 3:25today. Today,
- 3:28yet in November. And definitely not because of
- 3:31poor planning and programming, we are still in
- 3:34spooky season. And we're here to talk
- 3:37about. Well, we'll get to it, because
- 3:40first I have to tell you about, uh, recently, uh,
- 3:43and not so recent bad time you hear this, but whatever,
- 3:46you get it. With the power of the Internet, I have
- 3:49preloaded this one,
- 3:52but I farted so hard,
- 3:55like, it actually hurt.
- 3:58I actually thought I tore something.
- 4:01Not the boring holio itself, but probably like
- 4:04that tainted skin right between the boring
- 4:06holio and the other stuff, I just felt like I
- 4:09ripped it. I just felt like I did that
- 4:12and I didn't check.
- 4:15But I'm pretty confident I'm good now.
- 4:18But, yeah, I farted so hard, it actually
- 4:20hurt. It actually hurt a little bit.
- 4:24Also, just a couple weeks before recording,
- 4:28a few weeks back, Michael Wall, former, uh, guest
- 4:31of the show. Michael Wall was on the show, and his
- 4:34lovely daughter Bethany, uh, got married.
- 4:37And we had the privilege of attending her wedding.
- 4:40And what was really great
- 4:43know, we pull up to Spokane, Washington, and within
- 4:46minutes of being in this lovely city, I
- 4:49am just stared face to face. And by face,
- 4:52I mean my face and his butt crack to
- 4:54this just homeless gentleman
- 4:57who is just showering in the thing.
- 5:00Uh, and I'm not trying to make a comment
- 5:03about how somebody might bathe themselves if they don't
- 5:06have a place to do it. I'm, um, just saying that we were
- 5:09not in this city for more than just a few
- 5:11seconds. And I am full view of
- 5:14a butt crack, a soggy
- 5:17one at that. So there you go.
- 5:20But it's still spooky season here at privy, and
- 5:23today we're going to explore something
- 5:26pretty wild and honestly, kind of
- 5:28messed up. You know how sometimes you
- 5:31hear about something and think, man, that is
- 5:34completely whack. That is
- 5:37so whack. That's more whack than seeing a
- 5:40dude's butt crack 5 seconds into being in
- 5:43Spokane. You know what I'm saying? And
- 5:46then you begin to look into it,
- 5:48only to find out that what you had
- 5:51originally heard was just the beginning. It's
- 5:54going to get way more whack than that, and
- 5:57that's going to be, uh, us this week. So allow
- 5:59me to take you on the journey from
- 6:02whack to more whack. Or whacker. As
- 6:05I say, it's probably a bad word. Whacker. I don't know.
- 6:08Sounds bad. First of
- 6:11all, up front, I want to give a content
- 6:13warning this week. This week,
- 6:17we will be talking about human discharge
- 6:19and excrement. Quite a lot. A lot more than
- 6:22I usually want to, um, especially
- 6:26talking about human excrement. And this
- 6:29is where the quotes come in here.
- 6:31Discharge. But isn't that
- 6:33kind of the nature of this show, to talk about human
- 6:36excrement? One of
- 6:39the pastimes I love, but don't have a lot of time to
- 6:42do is dungeons and dragons. I
- 6:45know, edgy. This dude
- 6:47must be cool. But
- 6:51in one of my readings and preparing
- 6:54for one of my previous dungeons and dragons
- 6:57campaigns, years ago, I stumbled upon a
- 7:00monster that caught my attention and has lived
- 7:03in my brain in a strange way ever since.
- 7:06Now, the description of this
- 7:08monster was that of a human
- 7:11shaped creatureformation.
- 7:14I say human shaped because as we're going to
- 7:17learn time and time again,
- 7:20it is not human, or
- 7:22perhaps not fully or exactly
- 7:25human. This monster is
- 7:27an entity that often is controlled by
- 7:30a magic using character in the game, usually
- 7:33a sorcerer or occasion wizard. Scram,
- 7:36wizard. It is often used to
- 7:38spy on people by offering the
- 7:41magician a vessel by which they can
- 7:44occupy two spaces at once
- 7:47and see what it sees.
- 7:49This homunculus
- 7:53does the human magician's bidding.
- 7:56Now, this week, we are going to
- 7:59talk about the homunculus. It's not too wild
- 8:02yet. We're still entry level voodoo
- 8:05mama juju situation at this point. You got
- 8:08creepy wizard. He does creepy spell and
- 8:10overtakes weird human thing.
- 8:13Now, we need to talk about this, because
- 8:16it is not until we
- 8:19begin to talk about what a
- 8:21homunculus is made out of
- 8:24that things begin to get
- 8:27a little unhinged and off the rails. Remember,
- 8:29this is a conglomeration of
- 8:33nonliving things that then is animated
- 8:35to be living. The things that can
- 8:38be mixed or formed to form a
- 8:41homunculus include clay,
- 8:44dirt, mud, hair,
- 8:47feathers, urine, poop.
- 8:50And what's going to be an unfortunate refrain
- 8:53this episode. Semen.
- 8:59Can we not,
- 9:02like, can we just not. Do you know what I
- 9:04mean?
- 9:08I went back and forth for like a
- 9:10minute trying to decide if
- 9:13sperm or semen would be more
- 9:15appropriate, and I just couldn't figure it
- 9:18out. So we are going to just continue.
- 9:22The idea here is that some wizard or hocus
- 9:25pocus man would poop and apparently do
- 9:28much, much more to that pile of poop
- 9:31and mix it with some dirt and actual
- 9:34crap, and then mix that up like a toddler
- 9:37making a mud pie in a backyard. My son made a
- 9:40wild mud pie. I know that he said, I
- 9:43chopped a tomato and put it in there, and I totally
- 9:46believe him. But you're making, like, this
- 9:48weird poop
- 9:51shiz mud pie.
- 9:55Then, like, 6th grade art class, they mold
- 9:58the mixture into, like, a human shaped form,
- 10:01which then they
- 10:04animate by projecting their identity
- 10:07into that mix of poop and hair and other weird
- 10:10fluids. Um, now,
- 10:12I want to note that this monster does
- 10:15not have to contain poop
- 10:18or male
- 10:20reproductive fluid as an ingredient of
- 10:23its form. But,
- 10:25well, it was listed.
- 10:28So at some point someone said, well, we
- 10:31could include those things. It is
- 10:34possible to include them.
- 10:37And so because of this, this
- 10:40monster has lived in my brain as the poop monster
- 10:43since that day, years ago. And here's the
- 10:45deal. As is the
- 10:48case with the history of most
- 10:51monsters, the more you look,
- 10:53the deeper your regret runs. Like, just
- 10:56the deeper it gets, that's
- 10:59what. Anyway, in the
- 11:0213 hundreds, the black death struck the
- 11:05continent of Europe. And by mid 1350,
- 11:08this led to a resurgence of discovery and
- 11:10art, and in the Renaissance period. And
- 11:13while we think primarily of the art of the
- 11:16Renaissance, you know the ninja Turtles? Ever heard
- 11:19of them? You have Donatello. You have
- 11:21Michelangelo. You have da
- 11:24Vinci. You have
- 11:26Raphael. You get it? But there was another
- 11:29facet of the Renaissance that kind of gets
- 11:32overlooked, and that's the
- 11:34exploration of medicine. Uh,
- 11:37and this is where the quotes come in big time.
- 11:40Quote, the sciences, you can't
- 11:43see this at home, but the sciences in quotes,
- 11:45because we're going to find out that this science
- 11:48was not really science. I'm not a scientist, but
- 11:51I can smell a turd when there's one in the
- 11:54room.
- 11:57While some of the work and discovery that was being
- 12:00done at this time was legit,
- 12:02others were trying to turn lead into
- 12:05gold. You know, alchemy.
- 12:09One of the folks on the scene,
- 12:12uh, was a man by the name of Philippus
- 12:14Areolis Theophrastus Bombastus
- 12:17von Hollenheim, known by
- 12:20most, and, uh, let's be honest, probably by his
- 12:23friends as Paracelsus.
- 12:28Paracelsus was a
- 12:30swiss physician,
- 12:33alchemist and philosopher. Because
- 12:36back then, nowadays,
- 12:40if you're a doctor, often you're either, like, general
- 12:42practitioner or you have a specific focus.
- 12:46But back then, to be a doctor, you also had to
- 12:49be trying to mix weird things together to make gold and
- 12:52also do philosophy. And maybe the
- 12:54staying in your lane thing would have been a better thing,
- 12:57but Paracelsis was a physician,
- 13:00alchemist and philosopher. Nowadays, could you
- 13:02imagine if your doctor was also
- 13:05really into alchemy? Like, no, thanks.
- 13:08Actually, no, thanks. I feel weird
- 13:11going to a doctor if I know they vape
- 13:14or, like, smoke or something. To me,
- 13:17uh, there's no doctors that listen to this. That's just
- 13:20impossible to imagine that a doctor listens to this. But if you
- 13:23do, just know from me to you, if you smoke or
- 13:26vape and you're a doctor, you just kind of lose a little bit of credibility to
- 13:29me. Either that or somebody has lied to
- 13:31somebody along the lines about the danger of that and
- 13:34whatever. But, yeah, I'm going to go with
- 13:37you lose credibility. But Paracelsus
- 13:40made a lot of contributions in his
- 13:43time in the field of chemistry.
- 13:46Paracelsis pioneered the use of chemicals
- 13:49and minerals as treatment or medicine, and likely
- 13:52named the compound or
- 13:55the element zinc. I don't know which it is
- 13:59he purported, which means that
- 14:02he believed in and spread probably
- 14:04a bad idea
- 14:07of hermeticism, which says
- 14:10that you are sick because your
- 14:12humors are off. It's fake. But
- 14:15that was 500 years ago, essentially,
- 14:18as far as I can tell, your
- 14:21humors are like your chemical
- 14:24cocktail that's like swirling around in you, and you got all
- 14:27these different biles and fluids. And when
- 14:29those get dysregulated, it is
- 14:32the result of every illness. All illnesses are because
- 14:35of that. Now, the other thing
- 14:38here was paracelsis was way down
- 14:41with the use of opium as treatment. In
- 14:44short, he might have got a little fly on his own
- 14:47supply, if you know what I'm saying. And I'm
- 14:50not a cop. His work in
- 14:52toxicology is often touted as being
- 14:56the bedrock of our understanding
- 14:59of poisoning and better yet,
- 15:02the cure for poisoning. In short, the
- 15:05dude liked to get his hand on the ball
- 15:07and possibly the bong from time to
- 15:10time. Now, while some of his
- 15:12ideas could be linked to helpful discoveries, there
- 15:15are a number of his ideas that are less so.
- 15:18And as we will explore others that really
- 15:21get you asking, how often did you hit up those
- 15:24opiate stocks? But for
- 15:27our things today, about
- 15:29500 years before Gary Gygax put
- 15:32the homunculus into dungeons and dragons,
- 15:35Paracels wrote of it in his De
- 15:38natura rareum in 1537.
- 15:41He writes, and strap in, folks, because,
- 15:44boy, did he write. He says,
- 15:47quote, the sperm of a man
- 15:50be putrefied by itself in a
- 15:52sealed cucumber for
- 15:5540 days with the highest degree of putrefication
- 15:58in a horse's womb, or at least so
- 16:01long that it comes to life and moves itself and
- 16:04stirs, which is easily observed.
- 16:07After this time, it will look somewhat like a
- 16:10man, but transparent without a body. If
- 16:13after this, it be fed wisely with the
- 16:16arcanum of human blood
- 16:19and be nourished for up to 40 weeks and be
- 16:22kept in the even heat of the horse's womb,
- 16:24a living human child grows therefrom with
- 16:27all its members, like another child, which is born of
- 16:30women, but much smaller.
- 16:34Now,
- 16:36allow me to interpret. Just. I'm going to give you
- 16:39the hunter's cliffs notes of
- 16:42what Paracelsis is writing in
- 16:45Dana chira rerum.
- 16:47First you take human sperm
- 16:50of the man. Now it's supposed to be
- 16:53putrefied. I'm not sure what that means. I think it
- 16:56means it's stored safely.
- 16:59Whatever. Um, you store
- 17:01that inside
- 17:05a, ah, horse's womb for 40
- 17:08days. Now, after
- 17:1040 days, that
- 17:13sperm will begin
- 17:15to move and function
- 17:18and look exactly like a small
- 17:21human man. It's going to look like
- 17:24a full grown person, but it's going to be
- 17:27small like a baby.
- 17:30After this, all you got to do
- 17:33is feed it a constant supply of human
- 17:35blood for 40 weeks,
- 17:38and you will have a living human child.
- 17:44What in the flipping heck? Paracelsis.
- 17:47This makes Frankenstein sound like a cuddly
- 17:50puppy. Or Frankenstein, you get it?
- 17:53The monster. But according to
- 17:56Paracelsus, the homunculus, which in Latin
- 17:58translates the little man, is just a
- 18:01smaller version of a regular human that you can grow, essentially,
- 18:04from raw male semen. Now,
- 18:07lest you hear that and go, well,
- 18:10how could they really think that? They didn't
- 18:13really think that, right? They probably
- 18:16have not brought into the fertilization theory of
- 18:19conception. Like, more on that in a moment, unless you hear this
- 18:22and go, wow, these dudes must have been,
- 18:25like, way lost and outfield. Maybe they were on
- 18:28drugs, am I right?
- 18:30Um, I should remind
- 18:32you, these were religious men
- 18:35who believed creating a person in this way
- 18:38was tapping into the divine portion
- 18:41of who we are having been made in the image of God.
- 18:45And may I just say that
- 18:48interpretation is lacking. But similar
- 18:51desires are found across most cultures. Uh,
- 18:53islamic alchemy sought the
- 18:56creation of life in the Jabrian corpus. It's
- 18:59related to the jewish idea of a golem.
- 19:03And here's the deal. And I don't know if I believe
- 19:06this, but there are writings which
- 19:08noted eyewitnesses that claimed they
- 19:11did create these things. I think that's
- 19:14some freaking lies is what that is.
- 19:16But in short,
- 19:18Paracelsus'little, man in the bottle,
- 19:21the homunculus, or according to his own
- 19:24writings, the little man in the horse carcass,
- 19:27lent itself to a pretty wild medical
- 19:29theory and an even wilder swath of
- 19:32folktales, or in our case, monster
- 19:35stories. First,
- 19:37the idea was that male sperm
- 19:40would be able to bring forth a person on its
- 19:43own.
- 19:46Is the result or possibly
- 19:49resulted in it's. A real chicken in the egg
- 19:51predicament. But it's called preformationism.
- 19:54Essentially, this view argues that
- 19:57there's already a little dude inside the
- 20:00sperm. You just got to get him to grow up to be a big
- 20:03guy. And all a woman does is gives that
- 20:06little dude a little home to chill and be warm
- 20:08in now.
- 20:12Yeah. It insinuates that inside the sperm cell is a group
- 20:15of actually, just a little guy, uh, a homunculus, if you
- 20:17will, living inside of it. And given the right
- 20:20environment, it can grow and live.
- 20:24The purporter of this theory was a man named
- 20:26Nicholas Heartsucker.
- 20:29Hatsucker. Heartsucker. And again, his
- 20:31argument is that sperm semen
- 20:34is actually just a little man that you can't
- 20:37see. Here's the problem, though.
- 20:40At that point, it's turtles all the way down,
- 20:42because if the little man in your sperm has an
- 20:45exact copy of a human person, then the little
- 20:48man in your sperm also has a little man in his
- 20:51sperm. It's
- 20:54homunculus all the way down. And I'd
- 20:57like to quit saying the term sperm now,
- 21:00but this
- 21:03became known as, well, the homunculus
- 21:06argument, a logical fallacy that requires an
- 21:09infinite regress of unprovable
- 21:12cause and effects.
- 21:14It's little dudes in the semen all the way
- 21:17down. Huh? I imagine that if
- 21:20these blokes knew
- 21:23about genes and DNA, they would be
- 21:25shouting, yes, the genes.
- 21:28That's what I meant. That's what I'm talking about.
- 21:32And if you take the weird language out of it, that is kind
- 21:35of what DNA and genes do. Like,
- 21:38they carry the code for
- 21:41making that new little man. It's a cool
- 21:44thing that was designed. But
- 21:46Paracelsis also led to a
- 21:49trainload of folklore.
- 21:52The homunculus is related in
- 21:55nature to the mandrake, the mythical creature
- 21:58mandrake, and not the actual mandrake plant.
- 22:01Pretty much whenever the homunculus monster
- 22:03emerges, it is in search for a person
- 22:06to create or retrofit life.
- 22:09The concept brought us Frankenstein's monster.
- 22:12Van Gogh's Faust features a homunculus that
- 22:15seeks to become a real boy, if you will.
- 22:18There's a dude who is trying to make a homunculus
- 22:21with his
- 22:23deposits and a chicken
- 22:26egg. Like, that's today. That's modern
- 22:28times. We don't need
- 22:31to explore that freakish behavior
- 22:36that brings back some wild and
- 22:38concerning days and stories, mentoring in the
- 22:41poor chickens we used to have on our campus.
- 22:44Those chickens have seen some things. I'll tell you what.
- 22:48And if you think Pinocchio isn't a homunculus
- 22:51adjacent being. You guessed it, the little
- 22:54puppet is. The
- 22:56homunculus is a monster
- 22:59created from some sort of concoction.
- 23:02Sometimes mud, sometimes
- 23:04poop, and seemingly always
- 23:08sperm. He's a nasty
- 23:10monster that, for many, has served
- 23:13as humanity's attempts at creating life.
- 23:16Not like the whole children having process
- 23:19isn't already creating life. Like
- 23:22God kind of made a pretty rad system. Why
- 23:25do we have to, anyway?
- 23:28But this monster is a kind of shell that
- 23:31can be inhabited. The homunculus.
- 23:34Or as I like to think of him, the dookie
- 23:36monster. I mean, I
- 23:39made a homunculus today, but it got flushed
- 23:43and it wasn't animated or anything, but
- 23:48it smelled like it had
- 23:50Ben.
- 23:53That's enough of this. We hope he didn't spook you too
- 23:56bad. Thank you so much for listening. Um,
- 23:59and this is the end of Spook d season. We're, uh,
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