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"99 Problems" Episode 60 · DMV Mess Hall

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  Hi folks, this is rigged a guava, the d.o.c.
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  This is John kind and you're listening to the mess hall with
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  rally captain and tail gate 10. What's going on rally?
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  How you doing, man? Who did, brother.
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  I'm doing good, man. My legs are still a little sore
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  from last weekend, but, hey, I'm doing good because tomorrow is
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  the day. How are you brother?
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  I'm good, man. I honestly I typically, I don't
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  care as much about the draft, but we haven't had a lot of
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  football stuff to look forward to.
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  It's all been sales stuff and off the field stuff.
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  So, I'm actually excited about something that matters in the
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  window. Lost column, like what are we
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  going to do? And because of that, we're going
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  to have Adam amoeba join us. Adam, is with the burgundy and
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  gold report. They'll be jumping in here later
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  to talk about, you know, all things commanders draft and the
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  draft in general, but I'm also going to say I'm doing a little
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  bit better than Chase young man. Did you hear the news today?
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  You know, I did hear it. I had I was in training and, you
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  know, I had my phone. Off.
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  But when I turn it on of course it blew up with all the chase
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  news and you know I I'm assuming that he's not happy but if he's
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  true to himself he may say you know it all right let me just
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  show these suckers what I can really do and bring it on Home.
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  Who knows? For those wondering, it's
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  Wednesday the 26th at 4:32 if you're my boss and you're
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  listening to this, please don't get mad that I'm working still
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  during working hours. But JP Finley.
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  I think it was Nikki Giovanni. I had it first and she put out
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  that the commanders are not going to exercise.
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  Chase Young's Therefore your option that option had to be
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  exercised by May 2nd. So last week, Ron Rivera Martin
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  Mayhew, they did their pre-draft press conference, might have
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  been pre-draft. They did a press conference on
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  the third day. I think it was maybe third or
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  fourth day of OTAs. And the media was out there.
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  This is actually what they got asked about Chase young last
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  week and Anon draft topic but it connects with regards to chase
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  Young. Have you guys made a decision
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  yet, whether you're going to tell us or not about that fit
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  their option. No wait.
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  Till May 2nd Steve make a decision or to announce
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  something. Well, that's what we have.
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  We have told me a second So at the end of that, then John came
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  chimes in and says, well, let's fast-forward and pretend it's
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  May 2nd, I'm paraphrasing. But everyone started laughing
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  and chuckling ha ha to big deal. I've never been a professional
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  athlete. Obviously, you can tell just
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  look at me here. But what do you think is going
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  through chases head? And his agents had, when he
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  hears Ron say that publicly that the The second pick in the
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  draft, the Defensive Rookie of the Year and you are dragging
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  this out until the very last day that you can say yay or nay on
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  his fifth year. Option you think he's gonna be
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  pissed? Why do you think he feels about
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  that? Well as I said in the opening if
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  I'm Chase and I'm going to write a captain is going to turn into
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  a Chase for a second. Initially, I wouldn't like it.
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  Like anyone else, I don't think it.
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  Get, but if I really had a long talk with myself, it's not where
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  I was. Yeah, I was number two draft
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  pick out. Yeah, I did everything my rookie
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  year. Yeah, I did those things, but we
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  know that the NFL is what have you done for me lately.
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  And because of it, him coming off of the injury and playing
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  the games. The amount of games that he did,
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  he didn't do bad, but maybe they were expecting more.
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  So if I'm really good, Deep dive into myself and have a true talk
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  with my agent then. I've got to say self, we don't
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  like this. So we've got to show them who I
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  am. And the only way to do that and
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  to get your books up is to ball out this season.
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  I mean, we saw doron do it and he bawled out.
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  He got, his money will be initial negativity.
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  If you will that when he didn't show up the camp, will that
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  still be in play in people's? Mine's or will it be a situation
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  where by got they let bygones be bygones and truly see what he
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  does this year to make that decision.
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  And so if I'm chased, as I said, I've got to show them what I'm
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  about the true predator and ball out.
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  So I hear you there and part of me thinks, you know, your rally
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  the captain you're a little more mature than a 20 year old
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  millionaire, and what you're saying is logical to me.
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  If I'm in the mindset of someone that age that has been a
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  superstar and excelled at everything.
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  And now you are basically being told by not extending this but
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  not exercising. Its fifth year option that you
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  know what? We don't think you're good
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  enough so spend and guarantee Seventeen point four five
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  million dollars. I need you to prove it.
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  I don't think you can Really do it.
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  So prove it just like Darren did now keep in mind to exercise the
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  option Seventeen point, four, five million, if Chase does ball
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  out, and he does do a good job then.
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  They are going to either have to get him to sign a new contract
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  because he's a free agent March 20, 24.
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  So, the only other options there are a new deal.
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  Which, if you think about it, it'll probably be, you know. 20
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  plus million dollars a year that they're going to have to pay so
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  three million dollars more than you would actually have to get
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  in the fifth year. Option or the projected
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  franchise tag for 2024 for a defensive end is twenty four
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  point four million dollars. So seven dollars seven million
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  dollars more than what it would be out of the exercise, then
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  what it would be to exercise is option.
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  So knowing those Those numbers. Do you think this makes
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  Financial sense for the Commanders?
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  I think it makes sense to if you will take him off of being on
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  cloud nine, I'm not going to when it comes out to the dollars
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  and cents of things. I would, I never try to count
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  money. I think this this goes a little
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  deeper than money. This this goes into, as I said
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  earlier, hey, let's be honest. You just didn't do as well.
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  We thought that you would have. So you got to prove it to us.
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  If you prove it to us, we'll pay you to the moon and back.
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  But right now we just can't do that because possibly, you know,
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  we think maybe you got to behead and we got to bring you down to
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  size, you never know the Mind Games at the NFL teams.
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  Play on these players. You just you just never know and
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  this could be one of those times that they are playing a mind
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  game with. To see how bad he really wants
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  it to see how he reacts to it to see.
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  If like you said, young, 20-something your old.
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  Are you going to pout or are you going to show improve?
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  The ball is in your court? No different than when you were
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  playing college ball, it was a year Court to ball out and try
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  to get a contract. You got it.
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  So now, can you keep it? That's what this is about, I
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  believe. And I agree with you.
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  They need to see that young man do more.
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  He has started 26 games and he's missed 22.
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  You know, he skipped voluntary workouts after his Defensive
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  Rookie of the Year because he was filming a commercial, you
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  know, the young man was trying to get that paper.
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  Hey, I don't blame him. He tried to take advantage of
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  those things. We all know how vocal he is on
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  the sideline, he is a leader on this team.
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  He's an emotional leader, even when he was injured, he was out
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  there supporting Teammates, I don't think heinicke. 12 been a
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  big deal if it wasn't for Chase, you know, I don't I don't care
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  if he's dying for the pylon. If Chase is not yelling,
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  heinicke, whatever the hell he was doing, he wouldn't have
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  mattered in this town, so he is a part of this franchise.
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  The thing I have an issue with is we have people right now, Ron
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  Rivera, Martin Mayhew, that are making long-term decisions for
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  this team, where they most likely in my eyes.
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  And in some other people's eyes out there will not be here in
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  2024. So take a look at this Chase
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  young Montez, sweat James Smith Williams Casey to Hill fa obata,
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  William, Bradley King. Those are all of the defensive
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  ends on our roster right now. That's our entire defense of
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  that in depth chart. Mmm, they are all free agents in
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  2024 every single one. Chase and Montez have the same
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  agent. So Chase balls out.
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  You can a franchise him Montez, balls out.
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  What are you going to do there? You can't franchise both of
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  them. You only got one franchise tag.
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  So if you're just thinking that chase is going to go back to a
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  shell of his Defensive Rookie of the Year self wouldn't you think
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  Seventeen point four? Five million dollars to
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  guarantee he's here. That's why you draft someone the
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  first round. I have that.
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  Fifth year, option makes sense then that still gives you an
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  option to franchise Montez, sweat.
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  If you can't get a deal done with Montez that still gives you
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  the ability to negotiate with Montez.
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  So to me the just saying, you know what, let's blame this on
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  the fact that we don't have a real loner right now.
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  Let's blame this on the fact that chase hasn't been healthy,
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  whatever they want to blame it on.
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  I feel that Rivera has been back and forth on this.
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  I think it's setting the Chives up to fail in this scenario.
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  Long-term we don't have another free agent so we don't have
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  another defensive end ready to go and maybe when Adams joins us
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  he'll be able to help shed some light on what the Commander's
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  might do that defensive line and the draft.
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  But man I've got some concerns from a, you know, just a
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  long-term overall perspective of what are we going to do with
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  that position because we literally could lose both of our
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  book ends. 20:24 Chase and tez gone because, you know, they're
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  free of that's going on this year.
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  I don't that's going to happen. I think that there is a plan.
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  Once again, I don't know what it is.
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  Obviously you don't know what it is, but I think that there is a
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  plan and I've always said and maybe that's just the rally
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  Captain's outlook on life that there's always a plan.
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  I'm sure that that at the same thing that they're talk that
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  we're talking about They're talking about it.
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  I mean, they are the one who writes, the checks, they are the
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  one who signs the checks if you will.
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  So more of that is going through their mind than ours.
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  And so it could be a situation where they feel, hey, look, you
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  know what, we're going to see what's coming up, coming out of
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  the college ranks here, shortly to see if we can replace them,
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  who knows? I just know that when it comes
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  down to it, Something good is going to be on the horizon.
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  It may not be what anybody thinks it is, but something's
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  going to happen in a positive happen is we're going to do
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  owner. I'm a thousand percent with you
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  there. I just don't know if Martin and
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  Ron are thinking about 20 24. I think they are thinking about
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  right now it right now. Yeah, it fired a point.
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  I want to bring in a neighbor from the burgundy gold report.
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  Riley and I are joined by Adam, a niba Adam is with the burgundy
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  and gold report. You can find Adam on Twitter at
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  the B. And G report guy is all over the
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  place. And as a die-hard fan, this
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  team, I really recommend you guys out there.
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  Give him a follow personally, really?
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  I don't know about you. I'm not a, I'm not a draft guy.
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  I'm not one of those fans that does mock drafts that just sits
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  here and Does all these simulations and looks at home.
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  We get who we get but Adam that's why I like following.
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  You is just seeing all the prep stuff you've been doing leading
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  up into the draft which is you know, just 28 hours away right
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  now. I mean dude how do you have time
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  to do anything else? Yeah, II do this all year long?
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  I have two kids in a family so it definitely not easy.
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  So a lot of my film watching on all 22 and article writing
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  usually take place pretty late at night.
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  But yeah, I enjoy it. I started off I was I'm a writer
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  and a die-hard fan in about seven years ago.
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  I decided to get you know more involved with scouting.
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  I got some scouting training, some really great people.
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  Louis Riddick. Holy and former GM people that
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  are in the industry and Scout. So I got my training there and I
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  kind of put the two together and like I said, this will be my
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  seventh draft. I've been doing, you know, have
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  you sat in for about five years now, specializing in HBCU and
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  small school talent, but always focused on, you know, round 1
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  through 7, you know, projections that I think, you know, our fits
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  the four guys in Washington. That's awesome, man, I would
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  love to sit with you at OTAs or training camp.
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  One of these days just to kind of pick your brain because I was
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  out there rally was out there and I've got my little seat and
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  I got my cooler and my notebook just recording and, you know,
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  writing down notes and things. I'm seeing, I would love to see,
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  you know, from your eyes, what? You're catching out there and
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  what you're envisioning, how these players are going to be.
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  And with that being said, man, there's just been so many machs
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  out there. So many people talking about,
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  you know, draft process and Did you catch Martin make you and
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  Ron Rivera's press conference last week when Mayhew talked
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  about kind of really his whole process?
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  Yeah, I didn't, you know, I feel like they gave us a little clue
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  into, you know, that thought maybe in the first couple
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  rounds, because I think a lot of people you've been seeing this
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  Delta Kincaid from Utah, the tight end being projected to
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  Washington. I think they kind of kibosh that
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  stating that, you know, they really liked their tight end
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  room. So in my opinion knows that's
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  not a position. I really touched during my
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  evaluation process because I think at most maybe they'll take
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  a late-round guy, maybe undrafted but I think they
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  really liked their tight end room.
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  So Was one thing I took from their press conference.
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  But the other thing that I really walked away from is I
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  really do think that they're going to try their damnedest to
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  move back. I think they really like what
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  they got last year when they traded back and got the on
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  Datsun, were able to add some other players that way.
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  So I think that they're really going to be a prime team to see
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  trade back and I think I think that that's key for them because
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  although you know you can get a Blue Chip at 16 to drop off from
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  16 to say in the early 20s is not dramatic and And it to get
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  an extra third, fourth round for moving back.
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  I think this team is going to need to do that.
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  So my main takeaway as I think definitely I think look for a
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  trade back, I think that's very much in play.
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  I have to agree with you Adam back in the day, I was one of
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  the guys who had my own mock Big Board.
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  I did it all, you know, but then once the players didn't they
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  didn't select the players that I wanted.
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  I get upset and say, okay, what are you doing all this for?
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  So I stopped me. Me many years ago, what's your
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  take on the whole Chase young. Not getting his fifth year
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  option. II understand where they're
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  coming from because we haven't from the knee.
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  I think that they want to see a little more but I think it has a
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  lot less to do with the injury and a lot more with the
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  potential freelancing. I think that they're trying to
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  really get him to move away from.
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  I think that they're trying to really see if he can play within
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  their system. We saw with code.
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  You see what he did with Durant pain?
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  And I think he kind of bought in so I think that led to the, you
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  know, long to fit your option in the extension.
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  I think with young the jury's still out And it's a large sum
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  of money to really commit right now.
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  I think they're, you know, they're kind of in a hole right
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  now because going into next year you're talking about Montez
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  Sweat Right Now. Chase young Cam, curl antoniou
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  Gibson, Kendall Fuller are all guys that are on the free agents
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  block right now come into next year.
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  So I think they're going to roll the dice and this is going to be
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  another situation if he can you know ball out that you know
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  maybe he'll get a contract like pain.
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  But I think in the end between pain, sweat and curl odds, are
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  they proud? Bleep.
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  Keep two of them but more likely, one of them.
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  So I think Young is probably in their long-term plans as long as
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  we can see some production from him.
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  But again I think they're willing to roll see how it goes
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  in franchising next year if need be so rally.
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  Now you're just talking about it before you joined and this is a
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  tweet from Nikki Giovanni. Allah Chase young Montez wet
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  James Smith Williams Casey to Hill FL Bata and William Bradley
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  King are all free agents in 2024 that is their entire Our
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  defensive end depth chart. So you think you're going to
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  have to replenish that by some free agents and some guys in the
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  draft now wasting and I don't want you wasting but using one
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  of our picks on a defensive end and you're hoping it's not going
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  to be a high pick because I feel person.
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  We have other holes that I want to talk to you about but knowing
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  that you're going to have to use some later round picks on
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  defense events. To potentially hope bat fill the
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  Exodus. That's going to happen.
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  Because yes I mean James Williams Casey to will fa W BK.
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  They're not you know going to be a large part of her salary cap
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  and take up a huge chunk of that.
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  But there's a chance you could lose these guys because they're
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  not under contract. What are the odds you think the
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  Commander's actually do something at defensive end in
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  the drought? Yeah, I think, you know, you've
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  been hearing it all day, like, washing will be in play at 16
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  for, you know, one of the defensive end slip.
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  But in my opinion, it's extremely unlikely because
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  you're talking about maybe, you know, one of the three somehow
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  slip to 16. I just don't see it because
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  after the top three, you know, there's a significant drop-off.
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  You get to McDonald's is from Iowa State, some other guys, but
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  I think that more likely and the way I scouted it, I'm only
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  scouting. I'm actually wrap.
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  It up now. Is this kid Harrison from Ohio
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  State? He was a five-star Recruit come
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  out of high school. Really hasn't hit that Plateau.
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  It was a little surprising, but he's one of the physical freaks
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  that is projected to be available in that fit around
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  even later. So that's where I think you'll
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  see, you know, the potential to do that.
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  And, you know, remember post trap, you know, I think they'll
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  look at a lot of undrafted guys, and you know, there's another
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  way for free agency. So I think they'll play that,
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  you know, by ear. See how it goes.
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  But I think in those first couple rounds, me personally, I
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  Oh, I've got a cornerback offensive, tackles interior
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  lineman to them linebacker to, but they put a lot less emphasis
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  on it. So I think that edge rusher will
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  probably be something that they look more in those mid-late
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  around because, you know, we've seen with Washington, they've
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  had great success with day three pick.
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  So, I think they're pretty confident there, Scott, So you
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  spoke about tackle. You know, we hear about Leno
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  being, you know, great off the field with his humanitarian
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  efforts and things of that nature and sometimes being on
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  the field, he just hasn't cut the mustard.
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  The way that a lot of people would have thought he would do
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  you think that they're looking at a position for him to get rid
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  of him or you looking at somewhere else on the line?
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  Well, I think going into this draft, I think you're looking at
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  Leno salary with it, just north of twelve million dollars.
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  I think that if they have a prospects like Broderick Jones
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  from Georgia, I'm a guy that I really like it.
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  Anton, Anton Harrison from Oklahoma.
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  Those are some true left, tackle.
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  I think somehow, if one of those guys flip, I don't see it but if
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  one of those guys put 16 I think that's a chance that they'll
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  probably move on one of those guys.
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  And, you know, they could I don't know.
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  Try to trade Leno. I don't feel kind of value for
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  him but I think releasing him gives them a lot of cap relief
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  so that could be possible. But in my opinion I think
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  they're going to roll with letter this year and that's why
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  I think cornerback or trade back or both is that most likely
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  scenario in the first round. I like a really a bunch of these
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  interior lineman going to the second round so as much as I
• 21:41
  think left tackle is important and key for them.
• 21:43
  I think they'll probably wait on it.
• 21:45
  Like I said, unless one of these Blue Chip guys somehow drop 216
• 21:49
  CJ straw, Stock has been dropping at that point and
• 21:53
  depending on who you talk to, there's so many different mocks
• 21:55
  out there. I mean, right now, I'm looking
• 21:57
  at, you know, SI about.com's and they're talking about the
• 22:00
  Commander's taking Joey Porter jr.
• 22:02
  You know, and just I've got mixed feelings about that.
• 22:04
  But seeing these on Robinson rumors of his stock potentially
• 22:09
  dropping running backed out of Texas.
• 22:12
  Do you think that something that's going to potentially
• 22:15
  happen and if you were the Commander's, what do you think
• 22:19
  they were? Would do that.
• 22:21
  If you have, let's just say a BJ Rob, Jean Robinson or Stroud.
• 22:25
  Dropping down to 16. Yeah, I think stir add his
• 22:29
  somehow we got to 16. I think that that would be the
• 22:32
  one scenario. I could see them taking a
• 22:34
  quarterback within the first three round again.
• 22:37
  This is smokescreen season and I don't see that happen.
• 22:40
  I think we're going to see four quarterbacks come off at least
• 22:43
  four. Quarterbacks come off the board
• 22:44
  before 16 and I think Stroud will be the second one even
• 22:47
  though, you know, we're hearing a lot about love it.
• 22:49
  Is it going second? Which I don't see.
• 22:52
  I do understand, but it could happen as far as be John
• 22:55
  Robinson. I think if he falls to 16, that
• 22:58
  just makes it even more desirable spot to trade back as
• 23:01
  I think at that point, you know, a team in the 20s will be
• 23:04
  willing to, you know, move up to 16 to grab a talent like him and
• 23:07
  you'll give up a third, you know, maybe Plus for him.
• 23:09
  So I think they'll be ideal you know, bargaining chip.
• 23:13
  But I don't see them doing that. You know, you mentioned Porter,
• 23:16
  the most slack that I keep hearing from quarter is, you
• 23:19
  know, Don't make the same mistake with you know, it
• 23:21
  William Jackson. He's a Crest Corner.
• 23:23
  People are very limited in their understanding that and it's
• 23:25
  okay. I understand because unless
• 23:27
  you're really breaking down the film and watching them, you
• 23:29
  don't see it. But although Porter has got long
• 23:32
  Limbs and he looks like he's built for the Pressman, you
• 23:34
  know, having the field in front of him and able to diagnose
• 23:38
  everything, you know, and Zone which is what Washington plays
• 23:41
  heavy Zone. And also Del Rio wants to apply
• 23:43
  a lot more Pressman. He is, he would fit well with
• 23:46
  them. I think people just get way too
• 23:48
  caught up in that it's one thing.
• 23:49
  Guy was in another Pro system and he's got a really adjust,
• 23:52
  like they talked about Josh Norman, William Jackson from the
• 23:55
  college level, and their clay ready to mold, and I think a guy
• 24:00
  like him if he's available, that would be a consideration.
• 24:02
  But, you know, there's Banks from Maryland.
• 24:04
  And another guy like that should be a little deal up.
• 24:07
  Little later, Brent, from Kansas State Forbes from Ole Miss, so I
• 24:11
  don't think that they have to stay at 16 to grab, you know, a
• 24:14
  guy like Porter. I think that'll be an
• 24:16
  opportunity to move back his although some might think that
• 24:18
  there's a huge drop-off Two important other guys, I
• 24:20
  mentioned there's really not especially when it comes to size
• 24:23
  speed and explosion, you know, Banks Forbes, Brent.
• 24:27
  You know, these guys they have all the ability to really be,
• 24:30
  you know, day one contributors as well.
• 24:32
  So although I like Porter to me it's Witherspoon Gonzalez and
• 24:36
  there's you know I won't call it a drop-off but as far as you
• 24:39
  know top Blue Chip guys after that they kind of mold into one.
• 24:45
  I can't wait for it to hear that, we're on the clock because
• 24:48
  we'll put all of this to bed and find out what's really going to
• 24:52
  happen. And I can't wait.
• 24:54
  I'm right there with you with rally and we're joined by Adam
• 24:57
  an ebow from the burgundy and gold report and Adam.
• 25:01
  So I've been dying to bet on something and to me NHL playoff
• 25:07
  hockey, I might as well just burned my money but FanDuel has
• 25:10
  their Washings commanders, first drafted player.
• 25:14
  Props out. So cornerback is +70 offensive
• 25:18
  lineman's + 2, 10 defensive lineman's plus 400 running back
• 25:24
  is plus 800 quarterback is plus twelve hundred and titanes plus
• 25:28
  fourteen hundred. If you were putting down your
• 25:31
  money you said you got two kids. Let's just say someone's
• 25:34
  birthday is coming up. You want to get him a bigger
• 25:37
  birthday present or her? What would you put your money
• 25:40
  down on the spindle prop? Yeah, I would definitely do go
• 25:45
  cornerback because like I said, the couple guys I mentioned you
• 25:48
  know, there's a handful of offensive lineman but there is a
• 25:50
  bunch of cornerbacks. So even in a trade back scenario
• 25:54
  from 16, you know, think last year.
• 25:56
  How they passed up the kid from Alabama at the wide receiver and
• 26:03
  moved back and got Jehan Datsun. This is a similar situation
• 26:06
  where let's say Porter's on the board I can see them moving back
• 26:10
  you know to the mid-20s and taking a guy.
• 26:12
  Like Forbes, Brent Banks. So I think it's highly likely
• 26:17
  that they either take a cornerback and 16 or move back
• 26:19
  and get a cornerback because like I said I don't think that
• 26:23
  Broderick Jones and Anton Harrison will be available
• 26:25
  because again there's a premier left tackles of the Trap, you'll
• 26:28
  hear guys like skowronski, you know, Parish Johnson Paris
• 26:32
  Johnson could go, you know, before those guys.
• 26:34
  But a guy like skowronski, you know, think Brian Ashraf.
• 26:36
  When he played for washing, he's more in that guard mold, all the
• 26:40
  way to play, right. Tackle, more guard.
• 26:42
  I think there's a lot a lot more depth as far as talent wise at
• 26:46
  cornerback in those top 25 30. So I think cornerback is
• 26:50
  definitely the way to go. All right, we heard it.
• 26:54
  We heard it was certain corner. All right, so plus 170.
• 26:58
  Adam. I'm going to put some money down
• 26:59
  on that. I'm going to have to leave DC
• 27:02
  and driving to Maryland to do it.
• 27:03
  Or maybe I'll go to The Fanatic sports book at FedEx.
• 27:06
  Try to put some cash down with one.
• 27:09
  Last question for me and appreciate you taking the time.
• 27:13
  What position do you not want to see the Commander's draft at 16?
• 27:20
  Let's just say in the first round, let's say they trade
• 27:22
  back. What's the one position from
• 27:24
  your perspective? It cannot afford to waste a pic
• 27:28
  on and let's take wide receiver and defensive tackle out of
• 27:32
  that. Just based upon the fact that we
• 27:34
  got Jehan last year and we got doron and John Allen already
• 27:38
  there. Quarterback is the pretty
• 27:42
  obvious. Take as far as, you know, like,
• 27:45
  let's say somehow Richardson or Levis Bowl, but I'm going to
• 27:49
  actually just venture to say, running back not because it's a
• 27:52
  position. I don't think that a guy like
• 27:54
  me, John Robinson would make a huge impact in Washington.
• 27:58
  It's more that I think having Robinson AG for this year.
• 28:02
  And I, you know, I really like a guy at a two lane on 8ij Spears
• 28:06
  that I think will be available in the fourth round found in can
• 28:08
  Mitchell from Cute. Little be around in that fifth
• 28:11
  brownies are more of those scatback mckissack world.
• 28:13
  That's what I think they need. So to me it's probably running
• 28:17
  back because again I just think that there's a lot more options
• 28:21
  and I think they're committed to Robinson, I think, you know, new
• 28:24
  ownership or not. You know, this is the same
• 28:26
  coaching staff in place and I think that they want though they
• 28:28
  want to got a complimentary Pisa Robinson but definitely not in
• 28:31
  the first round or second run. I don't see that happening.
• 28:35
  So, I'm right there with you. I don't want this regime to
• 28:39
  draft a quarterback. I personally don't care if
• 28:42
  Stroud drops the 16 and something happens and he's there
• 28:46
  because I don't think this regime is going to be around in
• 28:49
  a year. And I don't want the next
• 28:52
  coaching staff and GM to and a heretic quarterback that they
• 28:57
  did not pick. I want that vicious cycle to end
• 29:00
  with this regime and hopefully, we don't have to worry about
• 29:05
  About that. But I am going to be on pins and
• 29:07
  needles Thursday night, just because I don't want us to draft
• 29:11
  a quarterback, but that's just me rally.
• 29:13
  Yeah, Well, Ted Adam. My mind is just do the right
• 29:21
  thing before, whatever the right thing maybe.
• 29:24
  And I know that's a cop-out but just do the right thing because
• 29:26
  as I said, I used to do the big boards and I just I'm done with
• 29:31
  it. Just make us the fans and your
• 29:35
  teammates proud. That's what I want man.
• 29:39
  I hear you, man. I hear you.
• 29:41
  And Adam, thank you for taking the time to jump into DMV mess
• 29:44
  hall with us. Is there anything really
• 29:46
  appreciate it? Yeah, you know, you can catch me
• 29:51
  every Wednesday with Doug macray.
• 29:53
  We were doing a show, pre-draft called draft on tap, on my
• 29:56
  channel, you can find it on my channel as well, the burgundy
• 29:58
  and gold report on YouTube. So we do that every Wednesday,
• 30:02
  we're going to be transitioning to more fantasy show after the
• 30:06
  draft. But other than that, catch me at
• 30:08
  the burgundy and go to Port.com, we're dropping our final player
• 30:13
  card evaluation tonight. Number 33, again I mentioned
• 30:17
  earlier, OSU Edge rusher, Harrison so that'll be out
• 30:20
  there. Just check me out the burgundy
• 30:22
  and gold report.com. That's awesome.
• 30:25
  And for those out there, listening, please check this guy
• 30:28
  out, give him a follow on Twitter, mean, the analysis.
• 30:31
  Just everything. They go into is top-notch, and I
• 30:34
  can't stress that enough because like I said, I am not a draft
• 30:38
  guy but I feel like I know more than I want to know after
• 30:42
  watching and following Adam and just kind of going through all
• 30:45
  their analysis, it is really good stuff.
• 30:47
  And if you are into All the draft stuff like Adam is, you
• 30:51
  definitely want to give him a follow.
• 30:53
  That's at the B and G report on Twitter and Adam.
• 30:58
  Thank you, man. Looking forward to catching up
• 31:00
  and hopefully watching a practice with you down the road.
• 31:04
  Thanks a lot. Appreciate you guys having me
• 31:06
  on. Thanks for sharing, really
• 31:09
  appreciate Adam and Eva joining us for the burgundy golden
• 31:11
  report. I mean, I can't stress it
• 31:14
  enough. I kind of check out when all
• 31:17
  this stuff goes on and there's a lot of fans out there that love
• 31:20
  doing all those mops and everything else.
• 31:23
  For me I was just waited until that copy of Madam came out so I
• 31:27
  could then play with whoever we drafted and do that.
• 31:30
  And now I think I'm too old and I get my ass kicked on Madden.
• 31:33
  So I'll just wait until you know, it comes and Hopefully
• 31:37
  we're going to have someone else.
• 31:38
  Come on next week to talk about who we did pick.
• 31:42
  But thank you Adam for joining us.
• 31:44
  I got a couple of clips left here rally that I want to play
• 31:47
  for you. This is what Ron had to say
• 31:50
  about the draft and Dan Snyder right now.
• 31:54
  The Snyder family, still owns this football team.
• 31:56
  I know before the draft previously you usually meet with
• 31:59
  ownership talk to them. Maybe what the plan is if you
• 32:02
  had that conversation this year, the Snyder family and what was
• 32:05
  that conversation? Like again, you know, We were
• 32:09
  leaving that discussion about ownership and all that, you
• 32:12
  know, to The Experts. So we'll skip that.
• 32:17
  So Ron did not want to talk about anything in regards to
• 32:21
  Snyder, Josh Harris, I get it. But Dan famously called in that
• 32:28
  Dwayne Haskins picked rest in peace from his yacht and you
• 32:32
  can't say he hasn't gotten involved and I was watching a
• 32:36
  draft last. Year at FedEx Field standing
• 32:40
  next to mrs. Snyder standing next to Tanya.
• 32:42
  When we traded back at our standing, right beside her,
• 32:45
  having a conversation with her when we took Jahan bouncing.
• 32:49
  And, at one point, she actually stepped away to take a phone
• 32:51
  call from Ron, because Ron was basically telling her what he
• 32:55
  was going to do and she said, you're in charge of football,
• 32:59
  you know, do what you're going to do.
• 33:00
  I'm paraphrasing. I don't know the exact thing,
• 33:02
  but she told us, and the fans that were standing around her,
• 33:06
  that that was wrong. Telling her that they were
• 33:08
  trading back and it happened are you surprised that you know Dan
• 33:15
  still the owner and his team that he hasn't bothered
• 33:19
  communicating about the upcoming draft.
• 33:22
  No I'm not surprised at him not communicating nor am I surprised
• 33:26
  with Ron not answering any questions about Dan?
• 33:28
  The fact of the matter is he's trying to put that to bed.
• 33:31
  And yes, we still know that he still holds the almighty ring.
• 33:36
  We know he does. Does and he can do what he wants
• 33:38
  to do. But I think as much as we've
• 33:42
  checked out on Dan and Dan is checked out on us as well.
• 33:46
  I think he is looking at, how can he spend that money and who
• 33:51
  can't who can you pay off and do the things he needs to do to
• 33:54
  ride off into the sunset brother?
• 33:56
  I think this is the last hoorah that he didn't want anything to
• 34:00
  do with the fact that he wasn't even there for something to
• 34:04
  gherkin sentence number. To me, we've talked about before
• 34:09
  in previous pods speaks volumes then.
• 34:11
  I feel he has completely checked out and doesn't want to have
• 34:15
  anything to do with this. And now we're just a waiting
• 34:18
  game. There are ya 17 Partners in the
• 34:22
  Josh Harris deal? It's not just Josh and Mitchell
• 34:26
  rails and Magic Johnson. There are 17 people so it's
• 34:30
  going to take some time for that wedding to happen.
• 34:32
  One of the questions was did Ron talked to Josh and this was his
• 34:37
  answer. Surly, the news of a tentative
• 34:39
  agreement with Josh Harris is group to purchase the
• 34:41
  Commander's, what was your reaction when you heard that
• 34:44
  news? What is your reaction and trying
• 34:46
  to prepare for the draft while? Also kind of hearing all this in
• 34:50
  the background? Well, I mean, as far as what's
• 34:54
  going on with the sale, you know, that that's not a question
• 34:56
  for us, you know, how do we react to it?
• 34:59
  Well, you know, until it's done, there's really not much to say.
• 35:02
  And so we're going to stick to what we've done in terms of our
• 35:05
  preparation. We're going to stick to the plan
• 35:07
  that we had talked about back in February as a group, you know,
• 35:10
  sitting now with Martin Marty we're throb and you know an Eric
• 35:15
  pretty much our upper Personnel department and just talk about
• 35:18
  what we want to do and what we need to do.
• 35:20
  Going forward. You know, I made a comment
• 35:22
  earlier About being able to roster build, you know, and just
• 35:26
  to be clear about it. It's because of the situation
• 35:28
  we're in with the Young quarterback.
• 35:29
  Now, you know, we were able to go out and do a lot of things
• 35:32
  and free agency and positive things we got as we talked
• 35:35
  about, we were able to get three starters off with three playoff
• 35:38
  teams, and that feels pretty good, especially for the
• 35:41
  positions we got him out. So we feel very confident, very
• 35:44
  comfortable going forward as well.
• 35:47
  Just going back to the ownership thing.
• 35:48
  Real quickly. Have you had a chance to talk to
• 35:49
  Josh. Harris is group at all.
• 35:50
  No, I again, I You know, we're going to leave that to the
• 35:54
  what's going on. But no, Yeah, I do think it
• 36:00
  would be kind of awkward if they reached out to Josh Harris and
• 36:02
  Incas and dry said, hey what do you want to draft?
• 36:05
  And apostle ovilus was on Squawk Box earlier this week and
• 36:12
  actually came out and said, hey, you know, I'm not really
• 36:14
  supposed to talk about this but I'm still in the running here
• 36:17
  and what I learned out of that was he needs some updated
• 36:21
  pictures because I don't know if you like saw pictures of him
• 36:24
  earlier. When we're all trying to do
• 36:26
  research on, who the hell? This guy is Steve Apostle.
• 36:28
  A palace. And actually what he looked at
• 36:30
  their, it reminded me of like the early days of online dating.
• 36:35
  And I met my wife on match.com, right?
• 36:38
  So this is tailgate and I we got together from that.
• 36:41
  Well, I met some other people beforehand and we learned a
• 36:45
  couple of times where you could tell that some of these people
• 36:48
  use pictures from maybe like freshman year heart College,
• 36:52
  before they gain that 15 or 30 and then the right person and it
• 36:57
  wasn't exactly who you thought it.
• 36:58
  Was the point of I remember sitting at the bar, waiting for
• 37:01
  someone to show up thinking, I just got stood up.
• 37:03
  You got to be kidding me. No, no, they were there.
• 37:06
  It just wasn't who I thought it was.
• 37:08
  And that's for me, was what I saw when I saw him on CNBC the
• 37:11
  other day? Yeah, no good.
• 37:14
  No good at all. See, I don't expect Ron to
• 37:17
  answer those questions any other way, than how, he's answered
• 37:20
  them. Because if you answer it one
• 37:22
  way, then open it opens you up to another round of questioning
• 37:26
  that you really don't want to answer.
• 37:28
  So to keep the status quo, nope, haven't talked to him and we're
• 37:32
  focusing on this year's football season and draft.
• 37:35
  That's where our focus is. And as a reporter that doesn't
• 37:38
  give you any leeway. So there's no end to that.
• 37:42
  There's no end conversation other it stops right there and I
• 37:45
  can appreciate that. And that's what I want to hear.
• 37:48
  I don't want to get you talk to him.
• 37:49
  I don't want to hear you talk to anybody.
• 37:50
  I want to hear. What are you doing to make the
• 37:52
  team better? And I don't think having a
• 37:54
  conversation, one way or the other.
• 37:55
  We'll make the team better once. The ink is dry.
• 38:00
  Then we'll find out everything we need to find out, but up
• 38:03
  until that point now don't give them any more ammunition than
• 38:06
  what they already have. I agree with you.
• 38:08
  I we've been a proponent on the show saying less is more, when
• 38:13
  it comes to Ron Rivera and his commanders team less is more,
• 38:18
  and I don't think he listens because, you know, I'm not a fan
• 38:21
  of him so I doubt you want to put himself through that but
• 38:25
  hey, maybe he does and he's actually learning.
• 38:28
  Because less is more when it's come down to you know, these
• 38:32
  answers, he's had but been around, I cannot wait for
• 38:38
  football and it's right around the corner and I'm going to be
• 38:42
  out at National Harbor on Saturday.
• 38:44
  I know you're going to be out there at National Harbor on
• 38:47
  Saturday for the Commander's draft party if any of our
• 38:50
  listeners are out there come by say hello.
• 38:53
  I want to take some pictures whether you want to get to meet
• 38:56
  just you know I'm not This big scary guy.
• 38:59
  You see here on YouTube and if you're watching this, click like
• 39:02
  on YouTube. But looking forward to catching
• 39:05
  up with just fellow football fans and burgundy and gold fans
• 39:10
  on Saturday. And to top it off the Defenders
• 39:13
  got a home playoff game, this Sunday, and I'm going to be
• 39:17
  there and I think I come with me, right?
• 39:20
  I'm going to be their brother. I can't wait.
• 39:23
  So we have a fun fact weekend for commanders fans Defenders
• 39:27
  fans. And hey guys, like you said, we
• 39:30
  are not scary, guys, come up, say hello, who knows?
• 39:34
  Maybe even buy you a beer, he worries, mate.
• 39:39
  Do you were dismayed? So hey, come talk to us.
• 39:42
  Chill with us by borders, we don't bite.
• 39:45
  So, hey man, I can't wait for this weekend.
• 39:48
  I can't wait till tomorrow and then I can't wait for the
• 39:51
  weekend and it's going to just be a fun pack weekend and thank
• 39:55
  you guys. As always, I Always say, for
• 39:59
  being with us, you could have listened to anyone else, but
• 40:02
  you're listening to the dbms, all we greatly appreciate it and
• 40:06
  wrap it hard. Or don't wrap it at all.
• 40:09
  Rally Captain tailgate. It we're going to be out for
• 40:13
  another episode.