Latest / Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports / Jeff Legwold joins Moser, Lombardi and Kane 8-21-25
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Everybody cannot stop talking about how nobody is talking about
- 0:02Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos.
- 0:04Speaker 2: That's the thing.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Look, I think they're gonna be really good, and I
- 0:07Speaker 1: think that defense is a force.
- 0:08Speaker 2: As everybody's talking.
- 0:10Speaker 1: But what do you think about bo Nix and Sean
- 0:11Speaker 1: Payton a year two? What I think is, but what
- 0:14Speaker 1: do you think about the additions of Green Lawn and Hufona?
- 0:17Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about Evan Ingram?
- 0:19Speaker 1: That's a solid savvy signing right there. Andy, That's that's
- 0:22Speaker 1: what they needed to do.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Uh Huh. They can't be your sneaky pick.
- 0:25Speaker 1: They can't be the dark or it's all out sneaking
- 0:28Speaker 1: up on everybody.
- 0:29Speaker 2: No, nobody's talking about. They can't sneak up on people.
- 0:31Speaker 3: When everybody's yelling here they come.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Craigman and Lyndall, all we ever talk about is how
- 0:36Speaker 1: nobody talks about the Broncos here on Altitude Sports Radio
- 0:39Speaker 1: ninety two five, where we love football, but nobody talks
- 0:42Speaker 1: about the Bronco Pretty.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Accurate from Craigman Lyndall.
- 0:46Speaker 4: There, you can't say nobody's talking about when everybody says
- 0:52Speaker 4: nobody's talking about. Uh, Jeff Lakewell, ESPN dot com is
- 0:56Speaker 4: talking about the team that nobody ever talks about, which
- 0:58Speaker 4: is the Denver Broncos, and Leggy always good to talk
- 1:02Speaker 4: to you, and it's a good day for you to
- 1:04Speaker 4: join us, because, uh, first of all, if you, if
- 1:08Speaker 4: I know you listen to every second of our show intently, Jeff,
- 1:13Speaker 4: I'm well aware of this. I'm exactly right, so you
- 1:19Speaker 4: wouldn't have missed. A couple of days ago we show
- 1:23Speaker 4: exactly so you would not have missed when I said,
- 1:27Speaker 4: I think the Broncos might have a trade for the
- 1:30Speaker 4: von Vley because it looks like he's in a logjam
- 1:33Speaker 4: of different guys at wide out. I suggested maybe they
- 1:36Speaker 4: could get a fifth Vick and Mose laughed at me,
- 1:38Speaker 4: and they got a fourth and a second.
- 1:39Speaker 5: Vick laughed at you. I just made fun of what
- 1:42Speaker 5: the return would be.
- 1:43Speaker 6: That's all.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Did that surprise you though? Fourth and a seventh for Devon.
- 1:46Speaker 3: Vle it's an excellent deal, It certainly is.
- 1:50Speaker 7: I mean, you look at what the Chiefs are getting
- 1:54Speaker 7: for sky Moore, a second round pick they only got
- 1:57Speaker 7: they only got one pick, a sixth rounder, so the
- 2:00Speaker 7: Broncos have have done better. I mean, that's you almost
- 2:04Speaker 7: can you know. I've had gms tell me through the years.
- 2:08Speaker 7: If you if you get the value of the of
- 2:11Speaker 7: the pick where the guy was selected or better, you're
- 2:15Speaker 7: doing pretty well. And Male was a seventh round pick, uh,
- 2:19Speaker 7: and the Broncos got two picks for him in return. Again,
- 2:22Speaker 7: you know, sky Moore was a second round pick by
- 2:24Speaker 7: the Chiefs, and I believe they're going to get a
- 2:26Speaker 7: sixth for him. So it tells you the Broncos found
- 2:30Speaker 7: a a team that really needed a wide receiver and
- 2:34Speaker 7: they were the first to sort of fit the deal.
- 2:37Speaker 7: But you could tell something was up the last couple
- 2:39Speaker 7: of days.
- 2:41Speaker 6: Uh.
- 2:41Speaker 7: George Peyton, the general manager, has had a lot of
- 2:44Speaker 7: phone time the last couple of days, so you knew
- 2:47Speaker 7: something was cooking. And I don't think teams are done
- 2:51Speaker 7: calling the Broncos. They have surpluses at running back, corner,
- 2:54Speaker 7: defensive line. Those are all positions. I mean, the Jets
- 2:58Speaker 7: traded for two defensive linemen a so uh, those are
- 3:02Speaker 7: all need positions around the league. So I've had another
- 3:06Speaker 7: GM tell me from another team he thinks the Broncos
- 3:10Speaker 7: would be a popular stop here in the next few days.
- 3:13Speaker 4: Just to follow up on that, you know, they just
- 3:15Speaker 4: traded a wide out last year in Jerry Judy and
- 3:17Speaker 4: he only got a fifth and a sixth. Was was
- 3:20Speaker 4: that partly because they knew that they had to pay
- 3:22Speaker 4: him a contract on top of the picks they were
- 3:25Speaker 4: giving away.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Is that why the value was less than.
- 3:27Speaker 7: Veyleb Flee's value is so big because you have contract
- 3:31Speaker 7: control for on a rookie deal. Yeah, that gives you
- 3:35Speaker 7: a lot of flexibility. And he's a proven player. I mean, look,
- 3:38Speaker 7: he was Uh he just got caught in numbers here.
- 3:41Speaker 7: It doesn't mean he's not a good player.
- 3:44Speaker 5: Uh.
- 3:44Speaker 7: It's like they'll they'll probably release a corner here who
- 3:48Speaker 7: could be in among the top three or four for
- 3:52Speaker 7: a lot of other teams. So it's just that's that's
- 3:54Speaker 7: the level they're at right now. And sure they would
- 3:58Speaker 7: have liked to have kept Vlee, but he was not
- 4:00Speaker 7: going to get a lot of playing time, I don't think.
- 4:03Speaker 7: And you got to remember his career clock's a little different.
- 4:07Speaker 7: He's twenty seven already, he'll be thirty when his rookie
- 4:11Speaker 7: contract runs out, So for him not to get playing time,
- 4:15Speaker 7: that's a lot different for another second round player or
- 4:20Speaker 7: another second year player to sort of be waiting his turn.
- 4:25Speaker 3: He really can't afford to wait his turn.
- 4:27Speaker 7: He came into the league at twenty six, so he
- 4:30Speaker 7: was just older than a lot of other rookies.
- 4:33Speaker 5: Jeff, I'm sure that teams pay attention to other teams
- 4:36Speaker 5: rosters and you know what could potentially be released down
- 4:40Speaker 5: the road and so on, and the Broncos are doing
- 4:42Speaker 5: that with all the other teams. But do you think
- 4:44Speaker 5: the Broncos shocked him or do you think that they
- 4:47Speaker 5: got a call from Mickey Loomis to say, hey, he's
- 4:49Speaker 5: this guy.
- 4:50Speaker 6: You know, we see you have a ton of wideouts.
- 4:53Speaker 6: How does that work.
- 4:55Speaker 7: Well in this case? You know, Mickey Loomis obviously knows
- 4:58Speaker 7: Sean Payton very well. I worked together for sixteen years.
- 5:02Speaker 7: So some of it is just you're familiar with you know,
- 5:06Speaker 7: every team has a pro personnel department that tracks every
- 5:10Speaker 7: roster in the league. So everybody has a good idea
- 5:13Speaker 7: who has surplus, you know, who might be releasing players
- 5:18Speaker 7: with proven Resumes's that's what teams are on the hunt
- 5:22Speaker 7: for players with proven resumes who might be available. And
- 5:28Speaker 7: the Saints have a tremendous need at wide receiver. They're
- 5:32Speaker 7: very thin there. Vele gives them, you know, a size
- 5:37Speaker 7: potential with him, you know, six'. Five they don't have
- 5:40Speaker 7: a player like that on the, rosters so they had
- 5:43Speaker 7: a tremendous need and obviously a comfort level with with
- 5:47Speaker 7: The broncos Given Sean payton's.
- 5:49Speaker 3: Here SO i think it's pretty easy for that one
- 5:52Speaker 3: to come.
- 5:52Speaker 4: TOGETHER i, WAS i was just wondering that BECAUSE i
- 5:54Speaker 4: was looking at The saints roster earlier and it felt
- 5:57Speaker 4: like they had Pretty you're right about the size, thing
- 5:59Speaker 4: they don't have, size but it felt like they had
- 6:00Speaker 4: pretty talented. Guys they had A lave And shaheed And Brandon.
- 6:04Speaker 4: Cooks LIKE i was wondering what the purpose was on
- 6:06Speaker 4: their end For Devon.
- 6:08Speaker 7: Vle, yeah you can't have you, know sort of one
- 6:13Speaker 7: size fits. All if if if you're gonna have small
- 6:15Speaker 7: guys across the you, know, sideline the, sideline that's gonna
- 6:18Speaker 7: be a little tougher for you to create matchups you,
- 6:21Speaker 7: know on the on the edges of the, field, sideline red,
- 6:25Speaker 7: zone you, know back end, line in the in the end.
- 6:28Speaker 7: Zone you gotta have some some bigger, guys and they
- 6:31Speaker 7: did not have that. Presence and you, know again you,
- 6:36Speaker 7: know if you want a good trade and you're the
- 6:38Speaker 7: team trading the, player you find that you find the
- 6:41Speaker 7: teams with the biggest need for what you.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Have is this. Trade, Sorry mo's just real.
- 6:45Speaker 4: Quick this trade doesn't happen Without Pat brian playing really
- 6:49Speaker 4: well in the preseason in training, camp right Or Troy.
- 6:52Speaker 7: FRANKLIN i, mean you've got two guys really making, jumps,
- 6:56Speaker 7: uh you, know And Pat bryan has shown he's ready to,
- 6:59Speaker 7: go but that's no issue, there and That brian as
- 7:04Speaker 7: kind Of. Veley's you, know those are the Routes valay
- 7:08Speaker 7: had last. Year those were the situations he was. IN
- 7:11Speaker 7: i Think bryant's getting those snaps And franklin's gonna get more,
- 7:15Speaker 7: snaps And mims is gonna get more.
- 7:16Speaker 3: Snaps there's just no place for him to.
- 7:20Speaker 7: Go and it you, know they kept six receivers last
- 7:23Speaker 7: year when they went to fifty, three but only five
- 7:26Speaker 7: of them were active for the season. Openers so you,
- 7:29Speaker 7: know they could go just five at receiver when they
- 7:33Speaker 7: go to fifty three this. Time if they think they're
- 7:36Speaker 7: gonna be able to get a couple of these young
- 7:38Speaker 7: guys through waivers to the practice.
- 7:40Speaker 5: Squad Jeff i've also been arguing that that roster, spot you,
- 7:44Speaker 5: KNOW i, MEAN i know that coaches this time of,
- 7:45Speaker 5: year they're probably, just you, know there's a lot of internal.
- 7:48Speaker 5: Discussion they're probably wringing their hands about who do we
- 7:51Speaker 5: keep and who do we not? Keep but that one
- 7:53Speaker 5: roster spot in today's day and age in THE, nfl
- 7:56Speaker 5: how big is? That, okay let's say you keep five
- 7:59Speaker 5: wideouts In deley is, gone but you can use it
- 8:02Speaker 5: for another position that you just you, know you want.
- 8:04Speaker 6: To shore up that much. More how do how do
- 8:07Speaker 6: coaches view that?
- 8:07Speaker 7: Today, well they always want you, know your fear this
- 8:11Speaker 7: time of, Year mowas is that you're going to let
- 8:13Speaker 7: somebody go who you know turns out to be really
- 8:17Speaker 7: good and you can't get. Back and you, Know Sean
- 8:20Speaker 7: payton obviously uh tells the story of the guy who
- 8:25Speaker 7: got away for, him which Was Rob, nikovich you, know
- 8:28Speaker 7: turned into a pretty, good uh defensive player For Super
- 8:33Speaker 7: bowl winners In New, england and The saints let him
- 8:36Speaker 7: go at the fifty three cutdown Because peyton said they
- 8:40Speaker 7: didn't have a plan for. Him so he's very intent
- 8:43Speaker 7: on not having things like that happen. Again and you,
- 8:47Speaker 7: know they've they got some injury things where they're gonna
- 8:49Speaker 7: have to make a. Call you, know It's Nate atkins
- 8:51Speaker 7: is gonna be ready by the time the season, starts
- 8:54Speaker 7: or he's gonna be ready then sooner than the four
- 8:57Speaker 7: weeks you.
- 8:58Speaker 3: Would have to put him ON.
- 8:59Speaker 7: Ir you, know those types of decisions are what they're
- 9:02Speaker 7: going to have to decide when the roster goes to fifty.
- 9:06Speaker 7: Three that's where those roster spots come. In you, know
- 9:09Speaker 7: the guy you're trying to protect from waivers or the
- 9:13Speaker 7: injured guy you think is going to be back sooner
- 9:16Speaker 7: than if you put him ON ir to open the.
- 9:17Speaker 4: Season jefflaglubble is THE espn Dot.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Com who is this good news for on the?
- 9:22Speaker 4: Roster one of the bubble guys that was maybe gonna
- 9:25Speaker 4: be one of those brutal cuts you had to. Make
- 9:27Speaker 4: who do you think could stay on the roster now
- 9:29Speaker 4: with an extra?
- 9:30Speaker 7: Spot, yeah you know, AGAIN i think you, Know Nate
- 9:34Speaker 7: atkins is one of those players they want on the,
- 9:36Speaker 7: roster but he had tightrope surgery on his ankle last. Week,
- 9:41Speaker 7: now you, know ultimately players are usually jogging within fourteen
- 9:46Speaker 7: days of the, surgery so that's one of those. Decisions
- 9:49Speaker 7: do you need the roster spot for a guy like
- 9:51Speaker 7: him who may not be ready for the, opener but
- 9:54Speaker 7: maybe week two or week? Three and THEN i, think you,
- 9:57Speaker 7: know running back to have a crowd the defensive, LINE
- 10:01Speaker 7: i think that may be a spot where they keep
- 10:04Speaker 7: an extra.
- 10:04Speaker 4: Guy that's WHAT i was, taking like An Ojazarique Jordan jackson.
- 10:08Speaker 7: Type, YEAH i mean that's a tough. Decision you're you
- 10:12Speaker 7: let one of those guys. Go, again if you're ANOTHER
- 10:15Speaker 7: gm that's a proven player with a proven resume on
- 10:19Speaker 7: a good, defense that's gonna be somebody you're gonna take
- 10:23Speaker 7: a long look at to real in.
- 10:25Speaker 6: Who do you what are we looking at here?
- 10:27Speaker 5: Now for the final Pre sorry Sorry brett the final preseason,
- 10:30Speaker 5: Game Jeff, AGAIN i was reading Where Vance joseph, Said,
- 10:33Speaker 5: okay you know they hope to get Green law in
- 10:35Speaker 5: they hope to Get benito or, sorry uh missing Something? Bendo,
- 10:39Speaker 5: yeah and then like what six eight ten plays something
- 10:43Speaker 5: like that for the starters and then right off of the.
- 10:45Speaker 3: Lineup, yeah six to eight was the Number peyton used.
- 10:49Speaker 7: Most but AND i don't think that's everybody in terms
- 10:53Speaker 7: of when you say STARTERS i don't think.
- 10:54Speaker 3: That's all the. Starters, OKAY i.
- 10:57Speaker 7: Think it'll be pick and, choose BUT i think some
- 10:59Speaker 7: of the regulars will play very brief cameo because again
- 11:04Speaker 7: it's you, know coaches are all about routines and, schedules
- 11:09Speaker 7: and this game's a noon game In New, orleans which
- 11:13Speaker 7: is that early, window which The broncos will have some
- 11:16Speaker 7: of those games this season early in the, year you,
- 11:19Speaker 7: Know philly for, Example so you, KNOW i think this
- 11:23Speaker 7: is one Where peyton will just want to get the
- 11:26Speaker 7: guys in the, uniform warm them up like you would
- 11:28Speaker 7: on an early window, game just to get everybody that
- 11:33Speaker 7: feel and then get them out of. There like even last,
- 11:35Speaker 7: week the guys who were not going to play put
- 11:38Speaker 7: on the gear and went through the warm up just
- 11:40Speaker 7: like they would for any.
- 11:41Speaker 4: Game by the time we talk to you next, week
- 11:44Speaker 4: the rosters are going to be. Set everybody's gonna be
- 11:46Speaker 4: down to fifty. Three from the people you've talked, to
- 11:49Speaker 4: do they like this newer? Version it's what is it
- 11:53Speaker 4: last a couple of years? Now everybody gets cut on
- 11:57Speaker 4: that one little window or did they like this slow
- 12:00Speaker 4: drip of the cuts throughout?
- 12:01Speaker 2: Camp what do you think they PREFER i.
- 12:04Speaker 7: DON'T i don't think in all my years doing, THIS
- 12:07Speaker 7: i don't think anybody ever liked the slow. DRIP i
- 12:09Speaker 7: think they they'd rather have as many bodies around as
- 12:12Speaker 7: possible for as long as. Possible it does make the,
- 12:17Speaker 7: uh you, know the waiverclaim part more.
- 12:20Speaker 3: Difficult it makes it a lot more. Difficult and, Well,
- 12:24Speaker 3: jeff real.
- 12:24Speaker 5: Quick it used to be too if you had a good,
- 12:26Speaker 5: player but you get him out, early let him sign
- 12:29Speaker 5: with another team and get an. Opportunity now it's just
- 12:31Speaker 5: a big free for.
- 12:31Speaker 7: All, yeah and if you're, not you, KNOW i think
- 12:35Speaker 7: people should understand there's a ton of research that goes
- 12:39Speaker 7: into every guy and and you, know to have that
- 12:44Speaker 7: kind of information on thirty players released by thirty two,
- 12:48Speaker 7: teams and that's nine hundred, guys you've got to have
- 12:51Speaker 7: extensive reports on so you make good. Decisions, So, uh
- 12:56Speaker 7: that's the part of it that's the toughest is the
- 12:59Speaker 7: pro personnel to apartments have to be, ready, uh because
- 13:03Speaker 7: that waiver claim window is really, small and you got
- 13:06Speaker 7: to be, ready you, know when when your turn pops.
- 13:09Speaker 6: Up.
- 13:10Speaker 4: UH i know you mentioned this, EARLIER, leggi but can
- 13:12Speaker 4: you Play lake stradamas for.
- 13:14Speaker 2: Us can you name a.
- 13:16Speaker 4: Player that you think The broncos trade before this cutdown?
- 13:20Speaker 2: Day another.
- 13:21Speaker 7: ONE i can't name a, player BUT i will tell
- 13:24Speaker 7: you just talking to other general managers and personnel, guys
- 13:29Speaker 7: people love and you, Know i've spoken a couple of
- 13:31Speaker 7: the advanced, scouts you know who are kicking around the
- 13:35Speaker 7: game last. Week people love their, corners they love their defensive,
- 13:39Speaker 7: linemen and they like the running. Backs SO i think
- 13:42Speaker 7: that's those are spots where people are going to take a.
- 13:44Speaker 4: Look Jeff LAGWELL espn dot com joins is every Single. Thursday.
- 13:49Speaker 4: Jeff we'll talk to you next week when we have
- 13:51Speaker 4: a fifty three man roster.
- 13:52Speaker 2: Set.
- 13:53Speaker 3: Excellent all, right have a great, Day.
- 13:56Speaker 8: Jeff always appreciate, it a matter of fact about, it.
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