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ROR 147: The rich and the poor · Red Onion Randy - Life in a Supermax Prison

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  Speaker 1: Hello, this is a pre bad call. Proud friend has
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  Speaker 1: made the Percentian Apartment of Correction read a new state
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  Speaker 1: I'm currently served in one thousand, two hundred and fourteen
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  Speaker 1: years for capital murder right on your state person in
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  Speaker 1: This is Randall Bab currently serving one thousand, two hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fourteen years for capital murder on robbery, currently being
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  Speaker 1: housed at Keymount Correctional Center in Oakwood, Virginia, USA. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: and I hope you do. Let's get started with the
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  Speaker 1: podcast today. I'm gonna talk about something you know, I
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  Speaker 1: mentioned briefly in an episode. You know, I want an
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  Speaker 1: update on my life and everything. You know, I was
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  Speaker 1: in contact with Don Sheldon again. I'm gonna do a
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  Speaker 1: full episode on that. I'm not gonna do it on
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  Speaker 1: this episode. I got another consultation set up with them
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  Speaker 1: in January, and you know, I want to I want
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  Speaker 1: to see what he has to say, and then you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'll I'll let everybody else know. Look, it has me thinking,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I did the episode on Luigi MANGIONI me
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  Speaker 1: and my editor, and we've kind of been playing around
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  Speaker 1: and discussing some cases in the media. You've got the
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  Speaker 1: dig Pool killer, Wade Wilson in Florida, You've got, of course,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Diddy in New York, and then you've got Luigi
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  Speaker 1: MANGIONI also, you know, so we've been talking about this
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  Speaker 1: and I made a comment in the Luigi Mangioni episode
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  Speaker 1: I did where, you know, I was glad to see
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  Speaker 1: him getting all this support, you know, especially money to
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  Speaker 1: help pay for legal representation, because he's going to get
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  Speaker 1: good lawyers. You know. The only people I really want
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  Speaker 1: to see in prison are you sex offenders, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, I've never seen
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  Speaker 1: or heard of a case legitimately where a sex offender
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  Speaker 1: was actually rehabilitated. Every single one I've run across in
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  Speaker 1: prison that I see go home is back in prison
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  Speaker 1: with a new sex offense within six, six to twelve months.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm glad that boy is getting some really good
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  Speaker 1: lawyers and he has the money to actually pay for
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  Speaker 1: these lawyers. But that's the whole thing right there. If
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  Speaker 1: he wouldn't have had to community support, he wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: this money, he wouldn't be able to get these lawyers.
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  Speaker 1: So his chances of doing life in prison without parole,
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  Speaker 1: death penalty, and so on and so forth is much greater.
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  Speaker 1: I had a public defender in my case, and I
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  Speaker 1: got completely and utterly screwed. You know, Still to this day,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, to the best of my knowledge, I'm the
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  Speaker 1: only person that was charged with capital murder, found guilty
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  Speaker 1: of capital murder, who never received an appeal because my lawyer,
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  Speaker 1: he was too busy to fill out the paperwork to
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  Speaker 1: follow the appeal. He just didn't care. I had a
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  Speaker 1: good lawyer, that wouldn't have been the case. You know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I wouldn't have won the appeal. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: I would because at the end of the day, I'm
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  Speaker 1: incarcerated in the state of Virginia, and they just they
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  Speaker 1: have the law written in such a way you're kind
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  Speaker 1: of screwed unless you have a lot of money, and
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  Speaker 1: that's wrong. Why should I be denied an appeal because
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  Speaker 1: I don't have the money to afford good lawyers. I
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  Speaker 1: can't afford to pay five hundred dollars an hour, even
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  Speaker 1: if I was getting paid minimum wage in here, I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't afford five hundred dollars an hour lawyer, you know,
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  Speaker 1: which is your upper echelon lawyer. So because I'm poor,
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of guys in prison are poor, we're screwed.
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  Speaker 1: I just I don't know what the solution to the
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  Speaker 1: problem is. And I think that's what's been frustrating the
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  Speaker 1: crap out of me lately. How do we fix this problem,
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  Speaker 1: how do we make it to where. Look, if a
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  Speaker 1: person as a criminal, if a person breaks the law,
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  Speaker 1: they need to do time. There's no question about that.
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  Speaker 1: They need to be punished for it. I'm in complete agreement.
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  Speaker 1: You know, now that I'm forty six years old, I
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  Speaker 1: don't have the same mindset and the same belief towards
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  Speaker 1: the law that I did when I was in my
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  Speaker 1: teens in my twenties. Without the law, there are so
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  Speaker 1: many of you who would not be alive right now,
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  Speaker 1: and there would be so many more who lives with
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  Speaker 1: completely destroyed. Because someone strong willed, strong minded, strong physically
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  Speaker 1: a leader can get people to follow them, would simply
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  Speaker 1: take over. You know, me and my editor were talking
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  Speaker 1: the other day and we was having a discussion about
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  Speaker 1: the law. We was having a discussion about people saying
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  Speaker 1: they want all police forces to be banned. And I
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  Speaker 1: sit there and told them the day they do that
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  Speaker 1: is the day I climb the fence. And six months
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  Speaker 1: later I own the Eastern Seaboard because I could completely
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  Speaker 1: take over the Eastern Seaboard if there was no law,
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  Speaker 1: if there was no one to stop me. I am
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  Speaker 1: a huge proponent of the law. I'm a huge proponent
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  Speaker 1: of the police, because you do not want to live
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  Speaker 1: in an environment where there is no law, where there
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  Speaker 1: is no one to regulate that law. It sounds good
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  Speaker 1: in theory, but it is a nightmare in practice, because
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  Speaker 1: I have been in some prisons where there was no law.
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  Speaker 1: I have been in prisons where the inmates ran that prison.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all don't want that on the streets. There's very few
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  Speaker 1: people who want that in prison. You know, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people talk a good game. Now. I like being
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  Speaker 1: in a more violent prison. I like being in a
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  Speaker 1: prison where there's less cameras because there is a lot
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  Speaker 1: more respect. Because if you disrespect me, you disrespect someone else,
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  Speaker 1: you can handle it in a way that men should.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe a man should call the police because
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  Speaker 1: somebody whooped his ass. No, you take your ass whooping
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  Speaker 1: like a man. You learn from it, and if you
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  Speaker 1: don't like it you can't live with it, then you
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  Speaker 1: go get some proper training and you do something about it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't run to the police in here when I
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  Speaker 1: have problems. You will never find one CEO who can
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  Speaker 1: legitimately say I can't run into them for help against
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  Speaker 1: another inmate. No. Now, if I need something from laundry,
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  Speaker 1: like I need a new pair of boots or sheets
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, I'm going straight to Lieutenant Advance because he
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  Speaker 1: will help me out. You know, something of that nature
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  Speaker 1: is different. I've never gone to the police over another inmate,
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  Speaker 1: and I never will, So I kind of like being
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  Speaker 1: in the rougher, more violent prisons. But even I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to be in a prison to where there is
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  Speaker 1: no rule where anything goes, because it's anarchy, it's chaos,
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  Speaker 1: it's violence all the time. You can't you can't keep nothing,
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  Speaker 1: you can't have food in yourself. But I don't care
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  Speaker 1: how good a fighter you are, and I'm pretty damn good.
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  Speaker 1: Even though I have been retired for a long time,
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  Speaker 1: I still throw my hands in the sill. I still
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  Speaker 1: snap out a few kicks in there. And all I've
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  Speaker 1: done in the years since that you know, I last fought,
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  Speaker 1: was I've gotten stronger, I've gotten faster, and I've don't
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  Speaker 1: mind during so, you know, so there's a part of
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  Speaker 1: me that would like to, uh, just to see where
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  Speaker 1: I'm at, you know, just trying somebody who'd be willing
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  Speaker 1: to do it. And you know, no charges, no complications.
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  Speaker 1: Just you no mono mono, And I see where I'm at,
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  Speaker 1: test my new strength and everything out, and see where
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  Speaker 1: you're at at the same time with living in an
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  Speaker 1: environment like that. You don't want that, But I see
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  Speaker 1: it happening out there in the streets as I watch
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  Speaker 1: the news, as I watch what's going on, I watch,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people constantly arguing, people constantly on opposite sides
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  Speaker 1: of the spectrum. They're no longer discussing, they're no longer talking,
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  Speaker 1: They're just simply arguing their backbite. They're making up lives there.
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  Speaker 1: They're trying to find anything in everything, whatever accusation will
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  Speaker 1: stick to the wall when they throw it at them.
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  Speaker 1: How can somebody received true justice, especially if they can't
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  Speaker 1: ford a good lawyer, or hell if they can't even
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  Speaker 1: afford a lawyer period, and the state has to pay
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  Speaker 1: for it. With this public defender who has hundreds of clients,
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  Speaker 1: he might spend fifteen minutes a week on your case,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer to this is. And
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  Speaker 1: that's getting on my nerves. Yeah, I'm and this is
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  Speaker 1: rare occurrence for me. I'm actually kind of at a
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  Speaker 1: lawful words here. Maybe somebody out there has an answer
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  Speaker 1: and can write in you know, besides the obvious of
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  Speaker 1: don't break the law in the first place, and you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about a lawyer. I figured that
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  Speaker 1: one out years ago, folks, a little too late, but
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  Speaker 1: I did figure it out, and that's why I do
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  Speaker 1: the podcast. I know there's some people who think I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing it for a hustle. There's some people who thinks
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing it for whatever reason. No, I'm doing it
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  Speaker 1: to keep people like me from making the same mistakes
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  Speaker 1: and screwing up the way I screwed up. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I can't sit here and say how I'm gonna get
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  Speaker 1: out of prison. But my story doesn't end in here,
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  Speaker 1: one way or the Whether my story will not end
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  Speaker 1: in prison, don't screw your life up the way I
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  Speaker 1: screwed mind. If you're out there you're doing drugs, or
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  Speaker 1: you're ripping and running, you're doing dirt, you're breaking into
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  Speaker 1: houses or stealing cars, or you know, selling drugs, or
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  Speaker 1: you know credit card fraud or whatever the case may be.
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  Speaker 1: This is no way of living. You do not want
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  Speaker 1: this life, especially if your family can't afford the best lawyer,
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  Speaker 1: especially if they can't afford to pay forty fifty sixty
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars or whatever the case may be, for them
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  Speaker 1: to get you out of prison, or to get you
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  Speaker 1: just simply the least amount of time. There's so many
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  Speaker 1: guys in prison who could have a chance of going
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  Speaker 1: home if their families could afford a decent lawyer. I
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  Speaker 1: believe I'm one of them, you know, And thankfully my
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  Speaker 1: wife is doing everything within her power to get me
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  Speaker 1: a good lawyer. That's why I'm able to talk to
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  Speaker 1: John Sheldon. You know, she paid for it. I had
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  Speaker 1: a buddy named Joseph in Wisconsin. He helped me with
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  Speaker 1: the first one. But what about those who don't have it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy for Luigi Mancioni, there's no question about that.
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  Speaker 1: I just wish he wasn't the only one receiving a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of help. Something think about maybe you have
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  Speaker 1: the solution. If you think you do, send it in, No,
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  Speaker 1: you have one minute. I have no problem putting it
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  Speaker 1: on here, you know, trying to get it out there.
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  Speaker 1: Something has to get if we want to stop all
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  Speaker 1: this bullsh fighting between Republicans and Democrats, liberals and conservatives,
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  Speaker 1: straight and gay or whatever. In case may be. We
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  Speaker 1: have to start setting aside or differences and start focusing
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  Speaker 1: on commonalities on what we can bring to the table
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  Speaker 1: and how we can fix this life, how we can
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  Speaker 1: fix this country, how we can fix this world. Stop
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  Speaker 1: fighting with people who don't agree with you, start figuring
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  Speaker 1: out ways of working with them, because That's what I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to do. I appreciate you folks listening to me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get my voice out there to help people.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the crazy thing is I actually am helping people,
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