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Speaker 1: got a fun episode today. We got a lot of
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Speaker 1: good stuff to talk about. We're gonna lead off with
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Speaker 1: the conversation around the Missouri game that's coming weekend as
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Speaker 1: the odds makers decide to make us the favorites in
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Speaker 1: the game. We just got an injury report update. Sounds
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Speaker 1: like some players are actually gonna play, and we'll look
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Speaker 1: at what we need to do to actually win this
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Speaker 1: Missouri game. So Coop, it is a beautiful Thursday. How
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Speaker 1: you doing, my man?
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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm doing good. Jay. You know I
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Speaker 2: this it's been about twenty five thirty straight days work
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Speaker 2: wise to where it's just you feel like you're you
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Speaker 2: guys zipped up in a punching bag and uh man,
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Speaker 2: it's it's uh getting towards you know, the holiday season
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Speaker 2: kind of feels good there. But uh, I you know,
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Speaker 2: I had a thought, even though we've been through this
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Speaker 2: entire season, here in a couple of weeks, we're not
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Speaker 2: gonna have any more sooner football.
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Speaker 1: Not a lie. It does feel like, uh, Mariah Carey's
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Speaker 1: ruining everything for she has defrost a little bit earlier
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Speaker 1: than I wanted.
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Speaker 2: Put her back on ice. But uh no, man. Otherwise
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Speaker 2: that I'm I'm pretty good, brother, I'm I'm excited to
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Speaker 2: be here with you and neither of us are traveling
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Speaker 2: and uh and uh that's good. I guess yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's probably the best feeling in the world. Is I'm
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Speaker 1: not traveling right now. I'm It's like I'm tired today.
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Speaker 1: Today was a one of those work of NonStop over
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Speaker 1: and over and over and over and over and over
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Speaker 1: again and over and over. Felt like Marshawn Lynch is
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Speaker 1: running through a musk face. That's what it felt like.
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Speaker 1: I was getting read through my face today. It was
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Speaker 1: just ridiculous. But I'll say this, we got football this weekend,
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Speaker 1: so I'm excited. Sooners, We've got Missouri. We're reviving and old.
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Speaker 1: I guess you could say rivalry. I don't know why
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Speaker 1: fact that I'm trying to figure out why these people
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Speaker 1: decide to make this a rivalry at Missouri? Or do
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Speaker 1: you want to go right into the injury report and
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Speaker 1: talk about some good stuff.
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Speaker 2: Let's I mean, let's let's rekindle are big twelve brethren,
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Speaker 2: you know, trying trying to just Here's the thing is,
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Speaker 2: you need a little bit more story, you know, more
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Speaker 2: entangling of oh you in Texas into some of these
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Speaker 2: sec folks. And you know, it's like, we did really ever,
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Speaker 2: I mean, we kind of just beat the hell out
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Speaker 2: of A and M so consistently in the seventy seven
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Speaker 2: and nothing. It's like, well, that's not really a rivalry,
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Speaker 2: right and then so Arkansas's you know, I mean geographically sure,
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Speaker 2: you know, Southwest Conference man, like them. Yeah, they're they're there,
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Speaker 2: But I mean I just think that it's the most likely.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's all it is to it. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you're not going to match us up with Florida because
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Speaker 2: there's really not much there. Uh, You're not going to
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Speaker 2: match us up with Fandy because I mean, I don't know,
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Speaker 2: maybe I want to be Vandy.
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Speaker 1: That's Timosee's We can't take that when that's their hatred.
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Speaker 2: They that's their own it. So yeah, I mean I
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Speaker 2: understand why they're trying to do and and that's that's Stephen,
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Speaker 2: You're one hundred percent right. It's Twitter has fueled that fire. Uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, just over the you know obviously since the
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Speaker 2: smoke with Caden Green and so you know it's there
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Speaker 2: is gonna be some there's gonna be this. This game
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Speaker 2: is something that I think the coaching staff they knew where,
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Speaker 2: they knew where this was on the calendar.
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Speaker 1: It was one of those that was uh circled in
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Speaker 1: preparation for it. But you know, sure think Uh, I'll
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Speaker 1: give that to everybody on the Twitter verse with the
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Speaker 1: battles they have, but I'll say this, man, it's it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a fun one this weekend. As we talked,
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Speaker 1: I mentioned before the odds makers have flipped it around.
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Speaker 1: When I looked at uh, when I looked at the
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Speaker 1: latest line, it's been circling in between two and a
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Speaker 1: half and three. And I guess we should jump into
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Speaker 1: these availabilities because when I looked at it, Brady took
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Speaker 1: Nate Noel are both said looking at question but right now.
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Speaker 2: From Missouri, And I mean, if Brady Cook stays questionable,
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Speaker 2: this is just a guy trying to cut it out
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Speaker 2: and just trying to make I mean, I do not
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Speaker 2: see him playing. And I think I brought it up
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Speaker 2: on Sunday when I said, you know the year that
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Speaker 2: I think we played Oklahoma State and Mason Rudolph, I
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Speaker 2: mean could not even walk and he gave it the
6:33
Speaker 2: old college try. But I think it was like two
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Speaker 2: picks in the first three or four series, and you
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Speaker 2: know they pulled him and put that big dude. Who
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Speaker 2: was that big dude they had? He was like six five,
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Speaker 2: two sixty just quarterback is their backup quarterback? Somebody will
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Speaker 2: pop in here and say it. But the dude could
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Speaker 2: not not shelf. He was big, and they kept bringing
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Speaker 2: him in. Had a big, big arm, but he was
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Speaker 2: a statue.
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Speaker 1: I gotta look it up now. Now I'm very much
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Speaker 1: curious that was back in what fifteen?
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Speaker 2: Maybe, so.
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Speaker 1: Let me go look twenty fifteen, Bedlom, we destroyed those boys.
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was quarterback, not J. W. Walsh.
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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
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Speaker 1: So it would be twenty sixteen, Bedlom, come on, somebody
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Speaker 1: in here.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's our our backup OSU quarterbacks, all.
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Speaker 1: Right, not sixteen because Mason played that game. So let's
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Speaker 1: see if it was seventeen, is it? Where's maybe where
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Speaker 1: be see? Rudolph played in that game too.
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Speaker 2: Not Whedon. Whedon was lander twenty Yeah, I gotta.
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Speaker 1: Look, said, Okahoma State football, let me go look at
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Speaker 1: their roster in twenty sixteen.
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Speaker 2: Truly, regardless, yeah, regardless. It's it's like it's just that year.
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Speaker 2: You know. It's like you knew that he wasn't coming
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Speaker 2: in to do anything, but Brady Cook, I mean that
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Speaker 2: that ankle didn't look too good. What game was that?
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Speaker 2: The A and M game?
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Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, A and M was the ankle. No, it
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Speaker 1: was a game that came back in So it wasn't
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Speaker 1: A and M.
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Speaker 2: It was.
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Speaker 1: Auburn was it Auburn or Vanderbilt. It was Vandy, That's
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Speaker 1: who it was, because Vanderbilt had that game won and
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Speaker 1: they somehow just gave it back at the end, which
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Speaker 1: hurt my feelings. It was that Auburn one of the two.
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Speaker 1: Let's look, let me confirm for you. It was Auburn.
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Speaker 1: It was Auburn. My apologies. It was the Auburn game. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because Auburn was for Alabama. They came back. Albury should
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Speaker 1: have won the game. Bok's injury let them come back,
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Speaker 1: and then Alabama. He hurt his hand, which I kept
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Speaker 1: seeing on the interwebs. Everybody kept saying it's broken.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, well we'll see. But I don't think, yeah,
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Speaker 2: you know, if Drew Pine plays Jay, that's I mean,
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Speaker 2: you thought that our boy down there, Peyton Thorn, you know,
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Speaker 2: had the propensity to turn the ball over. Drew Pine
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Speaker 2: believes that every bomb is going to be caught by
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Speaker 2: his receiver.
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Speaker 1: So that's true. It wasn't Taylor Cornelius, was it.
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Speaker 2: Maybe?
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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at him as a statue and it
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Speaker 1: doesn't look like he was a giant human being. He's
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Speaker 1: six ' six two and thirty two pounds.
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Speaker 2: I'll uh, I'll dig through here. It's going to have.
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Speaker 1: I'm vactually very curious about this. So Mason Rudolph couldn't play, Yeah, JW. Walsh,
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Speaker 1: I don't think it was Walsh. I feel like it
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Speaker 1: was Taylor Cornelius.
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Speaker 2: I'll think about it.
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Speaker 1: I digress, Yeah it was Cornelius.
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Speaker 2: Taylor Cornelius. I'll go with that.
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Speaker 1: We'll go with Cornelius.
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Speaker 2: That was a quarterback that played at Oklahoma State. So
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Speaker 2: that's the most OSU talk we've done this year.
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Speaker 1: It's just kind of funny. But anyway, I think it
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Speaker 1: was Cornelius. But anyway, I digress. We got our wide
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Speaker 1: receivers back. It looks like probable has been set. You've
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Speaker 1: got for Rooke, You've got Dion Burks. I don't know
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Speaker 1: the corner reference on a Thursday night. Sorry about this?
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Speaker 1: Ck was? You know? It made sense? But no Dion Berks,
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Speaker 1: Julio Fu playing Coop. How do you feel about that?
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, what's the uh the Avengers quote?
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Speaker 2: You know, don't get don't give me hope, you know, listen,
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Speaker 2: I think without those two guys, I was feeling feeling
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Speaker 2: like this might be a game that you know, we
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Speaker 2: could put together what we've kind of come up with
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Speaker 2: up to this point as far as like some offensive
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Speaker 2: scheme and you know, go out and maybe score seventeen
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Speaker 2: to twenty one points and you know, get something off
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Speaker 2: of a turnover. And I think that their offense has
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Speaker 2: not been as explosive this year as it you know
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Speaker 2: it was last year. That's just playing simple truth. What
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Speaker 2: it is. Does the leading receiver with like five hundred
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Speaker 2: and eight yards or something like that, like this was
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Speaker 2: supposed to be I mean, outside of like production wise,
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Speaker 2: this was like the one of the top most returning
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Speaker 2: offensive production. Now, that's with Noel coming from a Appy state, right,
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Speaker 2: one of the running backs transferred from Appy State, one
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Speaker 2: from Georgia State.
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Speaker 1: So I think Nate Noel is the Georgia State running back.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, regardless, you bring in two guys that are
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Speaker 2: five nine ish pretty small, pretty small cats from lower
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Speaker 2: seed football and that straighter.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, Noel is app State? You were right?
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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, bang.
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Speaker 1: Miami Florida. So yeah, Nate Noel, but he's also on
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Speaker 1: the questionable list.
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Speaker 2: Goodness gracious, well, I mean, I mean I guess that
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Speaker 2: do you take this offense that has struggled for most
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Speaker 2: of the year and put him up against OU with
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a you know, we have we're
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Speaker 2: in a one game season from here on out, So
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Speaker 2: like your OU is going to throw everything at it
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Speaker 2: defensively and offensively.
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Speaker 1: Drew Pine throwing the balls. I don't know if there's
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Speaker 1: much to should be fear Drew High.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, let's let's just be honest. I mean,
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Speaker 2: one of the best, most methought you know, methodic drives
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Speaker 2: of the season was the opening game against Temple, you know,
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Speaker 2: and Fruit catches that bomb and then they squeeze it
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Speaker 2: in a couple of plays later. I mean, when you
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Speaker 2: have receivers that I don't know, they feel comfortable, you know,
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Speaker 2: running deep, deep routes and you know, running goes. If
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Speaker 2: you get a couple of these guys back and you
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Speaker 2: start loosening up, you know, the middle of the field,
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Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a good thing. I
13:49
Speaker 2: mean that there's there's nothing bad. I mean, do I
13:52
Speaker 2: expect either of them to go for like ten catches
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Speaker 2: one hundred yards now, but hell, four for sixty would
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Speaker 2: be pretty dope, you know, Like, you know, just having
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Speaker 2: a couple of guys you can throw in there with,
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Speaker 2: you know, with the Brandon Thompson still, I mean, I
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Speaker 2: still think that he's just you know, busting his backside.
14:13
Speaker 2: He's running wide open a lot. You you mix him
14:17
Speaker 2: and the Jordan kid, you need to throw those two
14:20
Speaker 2: guys in there. And Bower Sharp's kind of, you know,
14:22
Speaker 2: catched himself. Maybe Caden Helms gets excited all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: this offense kind of you know, we start seeing something different.
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Speaker 1: I think we're going to see a pulse out of
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Speaker 1: this out of the offense against Missouri. Missouri's down pretty
14:39
Speaker 1: good look of people defensive line. I mean, losing your
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Speaker 1: quarterback and you're starting running back. I mean, everybody's starting
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Speaker 1: to feel like we feel right. But no, I'm excited
14:47
Speaker 1: that that there was a that they went backwards on
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Speaker 1: well forward, I guess you could say on the injury report.
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Speaker 1: When I recorded on a lockdown Sooner the other day,
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Speaker 1: the one thing I said was that they showed up
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Speaker 1: as questionable. I'm probably out on the idea of them playing,
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Speaker 1: but because we'll get at least three reports if they
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Speaker 1: ever make it to probable, then I do believe that
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Speaker 1: they will play. Now that they're probable. I am in
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Speaker 1: the camp of we're gonna see both of them now. Granted,
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Speaker 1: I still feel like most of you do, until they
15:20
Speaker 1: actually get on the field and take a snap that
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Speaker 1: I don't believe that they actually exist this season, just
15:24
Speaker 1: because we've been dealing with so much snake bitting setback.
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Speaker 1: But if they both remain probable or they come off
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Speaker 1: the list by Friday or Saturday morning, granted we know
15:36
Speaker 1: they're gonna travel with the team, I think they're good.
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Speaker 1: I did see that Javonte Barnes was mentioned in here.
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Speaker 1: Barnes is still showing up as questionable yea, for though
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Speaker 1: for the uninitiated, he did get injured against Maine. He
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Speaker 1: just went back in the game, which I thought that
15:52
Speaker 1: was kind of interesting. And he's still finishing over two
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Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing. I'm wondering, and Tofier mentioned in here,
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Speaker 1: looks it sounds like in the ankle. So you know,
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Speaker 1: I sit down prayfully that my money comes back healthy.
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Speaker 1: But you know what, I'll take Taylor Tatum and Xavier Robinson.
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be a fun backfield.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just gonna be strictly, strictly honest with you. Jay,
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Speaker 2: I'm a little freaked out that the protection stuff would
16:28
Speaker 2: become an issue. I mean unless you can run a
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Speaker 2: lot of the two back set and then just you know,
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Speaker 2: runs a play action out of that. I was listening
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Speaker 2: to Gabe for the past couple of episodes. He keeps
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Speaker 2: bringing up like we're running a lot of play action
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Speaker 2: like power boot, you know action, but we're not running
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Speaker 2: outside zone, you know. I think that you're gonna have
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Speaker 2: to maybe have some faith in the unproven offensive line
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Speaker 2: this week because you need to throw up. I mean, listen,
17:03
Speaker 2: we talked about it on Sunday. Is of the top
17:06
Speaker 2: fifteen defenses you know in the SEC or whatever, Like
17:09
Speaker 2: we've already played the top guys as far as like
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Speaker 2: rushing goes best defensive line stuff like that. Missouri has
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Speaker 2: a good off defensive line. But Missouri, Alabama and LSU
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Speaker 2: I think are giving up. They're towards the bottom third.
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Speaker 2: I mean, they're in the bottom third of the of
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Speaker 2: the SEC as far as yards per game given up rushing.
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Speaker 2: And I think that this is really, really, really going
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Speaker 2: to be a game to where we need to go
17:34
Speaker 2: out and establish some kind of a pulse on with
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Speaker 2: running game because we don't. If you don't, now you're
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Speaker 2: putting everything right back on Jackson on the road. Do
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Speaker 2: we want to do that? You know? Do you want
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Speaker 2: to put so much on these receivers you know so early.
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Speaker 2: That's a good thing. I mean, that's a good thing
17:53
Speaker 2: that you could say about fruk Is fut knows the
17:56
Speaker 2: damn playbook, you know, front to back. You know, he's
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Speaker 2: he's he's a very very very very very very experienced guy.
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Speaker 2: So that's good because now you know that he's going
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Speaker 2: to be running the right depths on his routes, you know, hopefully,
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Speaker 2: and you know where he's going to be Jackson maybe
18:15
Speaker 2: you know, take some you take you take somebody else,
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Speaker 2: like a Faruk or Berks and put them in. It's
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Speaker 2: going to really free up Brendon Thompson because now that
18:24
Speaker 2: safety can't really cheat too far back, and Brandon Thompson
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Speaker 2: still runs wide open sometimes. So now I'm rambling, though,
18:32
Speaker 2: but I just I think that Jay, this is the
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Speaker 2: wide receiver's coming back. Everybody's going to think, well, now
18:37
Speaker 2: we can go out and toss the ball around. I
18:39
Speaker 2: really think that if you set down the coaching staff,
18:42
Speaker 2: they would probably say, I don't want Jackson throwing more
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Speaker 2: than twenty one to twenty three times this game. We
18:48
Speaker 2: want to establish the run. We want to get that going,
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Speaker 2: and that's they wanted to experience a lot of that
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Speaker 2: rushing success. They did. I know it was against Maine,
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Speaker 2: but they want to see that again.
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Speaker 1: And that's what we need. We need to pablished the run.
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Speaker 1: Run games travel so to defenses and having a run
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Speaker 1: game that gains enough yards to eat clock. That's how
19:10
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt's been beating people. They've been eating the heck out
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Speaker 1: of the clock and just moving the ball. We've got
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Speaker 1: to move the ball and if anything, moving the ball
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Speaker 1: on third down that's where that's the one thing I
19:22
Speaker 1: am looking for in this game. Can winning get some
19:27
Speaker 1: third down conversions? So I think I care about we
19:30
Speaker 1: get third down conversions. We're winning this game. Missouri, unfortunately
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Speaker 1: for them, is in shambles with these injuries. If Cook
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Speaker 1: I put this away, Cook plays, he's gonna get hit
19:38
Speaker 1: probably a couple of time and come right back out.
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Speaker 1: Yeah he's not gonna last. And I assume that we're
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Speaker 1: gonna be very aggressive in this game. And yes, Missouri
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Speaker 1: is twelfth in the SEC and rushing defense given up
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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty four, Bama's at one hundred and
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Speaker 1: forty four at fourteenth in the SEC, and shockingly, we're fourth.
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Speaker 1: We are fourth. We're only giving up one hundred and
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Speaker 1: six yards per game, right behind Texas at one five,
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Speaker 1: Tennessee at ninety, and Mississippi Ole Miss at eighty two.
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Speaker 1: And we were actually able to run on Old Miss.
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Speaker 1: But then that gets the next question, Coop, who's gonna
20:16
Speaker 1: play on the offensive line. I know we're excited about receivers,
20:24
Speaker 1: but I mean, I don't know if y'all notice this
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Speaker 1: also that on that report, but you got Michael Tarkin,
20:30
Speaker 1: You've got Jake Taylor as well as Jacob Sexton on
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Speaker 1: the list, and Sexton and Taylor are both out. They're
20:38
Speaker 1: not playing. I don't even see the expects he didn't
20:39
Speaker 1: play the season. No, Tarkland is questionable questionable right now.
20:48
Speaker 2: Stud He is the ankles ankle issue also right.
20:51
Speaker 1: And he has is an ankle thing as well, and
20:54
Speaker 1: that's why he didn't play against Man, which I mean, granted,
20:56
Speaker 1: do you really meant playing its main No, not really,
20:59
Speaker 1: but losing, but having Tarq Whin over here, it's questionable
21:03
Speaker 1: kind of concerns me at this point. The question is
21:08
Speaker 1: should we go ahead and play Isaiah Tree did for
21:11
Speaker 1: the rest of the season.
21:14
Speaker 2: I think we see that, brother, I really do.
21:17
Speaker 1: So where do you play on right or left?
21:22
Speaker 2: I think you start them out on the right side.
21:24
Speaker 1: Because oppositely, one is gonna be Spencer.
21:26
Speaker 2: Bread or Logan Helen Logan Hallen. It's true because I
21:31
Speaker 2: think Logan Helen he had some more flashes, you know,
21:36
Speaker 2: he he just has he has that that swinging gate
21:40
Speaker 2: situation that Gabe talks about all the time, and if
21:43
Speaker 2: he can fix that, that's it's going to be better.
21:48
Speaker 2: They don't They don't have the dogs that Tennessee had
21:53
Speaker 2: in Missouri, that is the defensive line. They don't have
21:55
Speaker 2: the South Carolina guys. They don't have anything like that.
21:58
Speaker 2: You know, are our favorite five star freshman Dee Uh
22:03
Speaker 2: that we missed out on. You know, he's not seen
22:07
Speaker 2: a lot of playing time. So I mean, I think
22:09
Speaker 2: that it's going to be which I'm.
22:11
Speaker 1: Kind of surprised, to be honest, I would have not
22:14
Speaker 1: expected him to not be playing more, especially with the
22:17
Speaker 1: injury situation that they're dealing with.
22:20
Speaker 2: Well, it's the motor, That's what you know, I think
22:22
Speaker 2: we brought up that was my you know, my you
22:26
Speaker 2: know kind of hesitancy with him was just always the
22:29
Speaker 2: motor and you know, it always looked like Kamori. Who
22:32
Speaker 2: congratulations storeboy, Kamori committed to Iowa State today.
22:37
Speaker 1: And I'm a home congrats my man.
22:38
Speaker 2: Yeah I see that.
22:39
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, there we go.
22:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations to him. But but yeah, I just I
22:46
Speaker 2: thought he was Camory was the more disruptive force on
22:49
Speaker 2: that defensive side. But I digress, let's not talk about him.
22:52
Speaker 2: So I think that you're going to probably see I'm
22:56
Speaker 2: wondering if you see Logan Hallen Ozaida or sorry my
23:02
Speaker 2: if it's o Zeta o Zeida. I was I get
23:04
Speaker 2: messed up. Especially when we do late shows.
23:07
Speaker 1: He is getting like, let's see, I think that you're
23:11
Speaker 1: gonna have You're gonna have way Woo, You're gonna have
23:13
Speaker 1: every You're gonna.
23:14
Speaker 2: Have way wou. And then Autry Dent I think he
23:18
Speaker 2: gets the start to right tackle.
23:20
Speaker 1: Hm hmm.
23:24
Speaker 3: Interesting oida Mama Mama went after me, Uh not really
23:32
Speaker 3: she she she's she DMed me a while back on it.
23:36
Speaker 2: It is pretty funny.
23:37
Speaker 1: But with ever it and way. I'm not concerned about
23:44
Speaker 1: the interior. I think Oida has done well at left
23:47
Speaker 1: guard so far. It's always been tackled. If if he
23:51
Speaker 1: if if Logan Howland can get that nasty streak, yeah right,
23:57
Speaker 1: If he just gets nastier out there, really just hitting people,
24:01
Speaker 1: uses that strength that he has, he'd be a really
24:03
Speaker 1: good left tackle.
24:04
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, our boy, Josh mcquestion. He's he's He's seen
24:09
Speaker 2: stuff in Logan a lot longer than a lot of
24:12
Speaker 2: people have. He he loved him, you know, he kind
24:15
Speaker 2: of spoke with him in the same breath of you know,
24:17
Speaker 2: Jacob Sexton, you know that type of thing, just the
24:20
Speaker 2: just the absolute fluidity and capability. Yeah, you just get
24:23
Speaker 2: that mean streak. And I think that's what these younger kids,
24:26
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what Maybe they do that together. Maybe
24:28
Speaker 2: it's you know, they bond that together. I mean you
24:31
Speaker 2: throw in uh epl at some point. I mean, maybe
24:35
Speaker 2: it rubs off on a couple of the other ones.
24:38
Speaker 1: Between him and bj Brooks. I'd love to see both
24:40
Speaker 1: of them get out there soon. I don't expect it,
24:43
Speaker 1: but I would love to see them get out there
24:45
Speaker 1: very soon and just go run through somebody face but
24:49
Speaker 1: again it's one of those once you learn to playbook Boom,
24:53
Speaker 1: you get to go. Since EPO didn't come in the summer,
24:55
Speaker 1: still got some time to catch up. But he looks
24:58
Speaker 1: pretty good getting you know, their personal about everybody loved
25:01
Speaker 1: at the last game, but we'll talk about that another time.
25:03
Speaker 1: I like the fact so looking at the list, PJ,
25:08
Speaker 1: we saw him get hurt. I think that was his ankle. Also,
25:11
Speaker 1: everybody got the ankle rolled upon. Like the last few games,
25:15
Speaker 1: it's just been ankle rolls. It's kind of sad. It
25:18
Speaker 1: hurts my feelings. So I anticipate. I anticipate see in
25:24
Speaker 1: Isaiah try Dent throughout this entire game. He'll probably sub
25:28
Speaker 1: you in a couple of times, especially since Missouri's lost
25:34
Speaker 1: both of their defensive ends. Said Joe Moore, as well
25:39
Speaker 1: as was said Darius Smith. I had the light list
25:42
Speaker 1: pulled up. Yeah, yeah, Darris Smith, both of them are
25:46
Speaker 1: both out. That's aw. Kayden Green's on the probable list
25:50
Speaker 1: right now. Well, interesting they don't play him in this game.
25:56
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that he'd have some teammates that would
25:59
Speaker 2: like to say what's up? Because I promise you this
26:03
Speaker 2: is if he If he goes out there, he's going
26:07
Speaker 2: to have a good rotation of Jaden Jackson, who wasn't here.
26:11
Speaker 2: He just wants to get better every game, and he's
26:13
Speaker 2: been given people fits all all over the place. And
26:18
Speaker 2: then or you get to, you know, one of the
26:21
Speaker 2: one of the big unmovable stones in dom Or dom
26:27
Speaker 2: Or DJ Terry. So I mean I think that I
26:29
Speaker 2: think that he's going to have himself. He may not
26:32
Speaker 2: get abused, that he may not be giving up a
26:35
Speaker 2: bunch of sacks or anything like that, but you're going
26:37
Speaker 2: to see him in the backfield quite often.
26:39
Speaker 1: That's true, all right. So what do you need to
26:42
Speaker 1: see on offense to feel confident in a win? What
26:49
Speaker 1: is the thing needed to win this game of offense
26:52
Speaker 1: to a top defense in a minute.
26:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's do three things real fast. Number one
26:57
Speaker 2: is Jackson continues the decision making. He's not put the
27:02
Speaker 2: ball in harm's way anytime here recently. And and so
27:06
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just knock on wood that he continues going
27:09
Speaker 2: that route the offensive line just I don't care. We
27:15
Speaker 2: saw it in Auburn over communicate, tell the damn defense
27:19
Speaker 2: what you're about to run. I'd rather you both know
27:22
Speaker 2: it because you said it out loud and you executed,
27:25
Speaker 2: because you get a stalemate at best, and that gives
27:27
Speaker 2: Jackson some time, Whereas if you don't communicate, you know,
27:30
Speaker 2: somebody's going to get somebody's get dumped down on, and
27:33
Speaker 2: then I think the last thing is you got I'm mean,
27:39
Speaker 2: I said it already. You've got to be able to
27:41
Speaker 2: have the running backs take advantage of every single hole
27:46
Speaker 2: that they get the opportunity. We need to take advantage
27:48
Speaker 2: of every single you know, separation at wide receiver that
27:53
Speaker 2: we get the chance. If you get the ball, it
27:54
Speaker 2: hits you in the hands, catch the damn ball, like
27:56
Speaker 2: we can't afford. Just don't beat ourselves because I promise, Yeah,
28:02
Speaker 2: if the defense goes out and does what I think
28:04
Speaker 2: they're going to do, and then the offense goes out
28:07
Speaker 2: and just don't beat yourself, that's penalties drops, you know,
28:12
Speaker 2: just massive mental busts. Just don't do those things. I'm
28:17
Speaker 2: not you know, on the offensive line, if we're going
28:19
Speaker 2: to run two or three concepts, we're gonna run zone
28:22
Speaker 2: insert you know, inside zone, and you know we're we're
28:25
Speaker 2: starting to see some of the athleticism of some of
28:27
Speaker 2: these guys a little bit. You know, these are the
28:31
Speaker 2: more athletic kids. I mean, that's that's that's what's going
28:34
Speaker 2: to happen, is you're gonna you know, as we get
28:38
Speaker 2: further and further away. I mean, these are guys that
28:41
Speaker 2: Bill beat and Bow saw and you know, felt good about.
28:45
Speaker 2: So we're going to see some of the GC counter
28:47
Speaker 2: again and that's that's exciting. But I think the outside
28:52
Speaker 2: zone is really going to be something that I want
28:54
Speaker 2: to see more than more than I can express myself. Yeah,
29:01
Speaker 2: you get that going. It's maybe that's four things, but
29:04
Speaker 2: you know, get the running game going. But just don't
29:06
Speaker 2: beat yourself.
29:09
Speaker 1: I think for me, what's most important is no turnovers. Yeah,
29:14
Speaker 1: you're keeping the ball in hand. I'm all about the
29:18
Speaker 1: run game still. Like I mean, I said it before,
29:20
Speaker 1: I've said it on numerous times. Running games travel. Just
29:24
Speaker 1: go running down they thought, Go muscle them, show them,
29:26
Speaker 1: show them that you that you're tougher. That's the thing
29:29
Speaker 1: I've missed that we haven't had really this season is
29:33
Speaker 1: just going out there pushing dudes around. Just go push
29:36
Speaker 1: them around, right, exert your dominance. We can do that.
29:41
Speaker 1: Do that, especially with them, you know, missing you know
29:44
Speaker 1: key offensive players, they're gonna lie heavy on their defense.
29:47
Speaker 1: And we've seen like who's that Boston College was running
29:51
Speaker 1: all over him, Vanderbilt was running all over him. We
29:54
Speaker 1: can get that going too. I mean, Jackson Arnold's got wheels,
29:56
Speaker 1: he knows how to find holes. We can do that.
29:59
Speaker 1: And if you end up up playing Taylor Tatum with
30:01
Speaker 1: Xavier Robinson or you get put Caleb Hicks out there
30:03
Speaker 1: and get him some run, I don't know, meg a megua.
30:05
Speaker 1: If he looks like he's healthy enough and you get
30:07
Speaker 1: him out there, it's go run down your throat. That's critical.
30:10
Speaker 1: Run it down their throat. Minimize turnovers. I'm agree with
30:13
Speaker 1: you tofer the run game going, minimize turnovers. And then
30:17
Speaker 1: the one thing you did say, cool, I want to
30:20
Speaker 1: see the space with the wide receivers. Yeah, with Farrouke
30:24
Speaker 1: and Burk's coming back, you should see much better spacing.
30:27
Speaker 1: With that. The young guys should be able to see
30:28
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do in game in order to
30:30
Speaker 1: get open. Keep moving, don't stop, don't slow down, keep
30:34
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering, do you think the defense will score point
31:30
Speaker 1: in this game.
31:36
Speaker 2: Right here? Yeah? Like, do I do they have the capability?
31:41
Speaker 1: Yes?
31:41
Speaker 2: Like are they going to get the opportunity? Yes, they're
31:45
Speaker 2: I mean that that's they're they're starting to fill. You know,
31:49
Speaker 2: Missouri is not super confident gonna They're not gonna be
31:52
Speaker 2: coming this game super confident.
31:55
Speaker 1: I think they've been all season. They've been super confident
31:57
Speaker 1: up until like now.
31:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so how does that play out from from
32:05
Speaker 2: the standpoint on how does I always want to say
32:08
Speaker 2: Pinkle but uh, drink weeks how does Drink call this?
32:14
Speaker 2: You know, I want this game called because me personally,
32:19
Speaker 2: Jay I would say, here's the thing. We're going to
32:23
Speaker 2: go out. We're going to be super methodical on offense.
32:26
Speaker 2: If we don't get it, that's okay. We're going to
32:29
Speaker 2: get opportunity after opportunity after opportunity, and we don't have
32:33
Speaker 2: to score thirty five. All we got to do out
32:35
Speaker 2: here is go out, Like if you allow him to
32:38
Speaker 2: get into that that that modes where they are dinking
32:42
Speaker 2: and dunkey and seeing success. You know, the tight end.
32:45
Speaker 2: Tight end has kicked our ass a couple weeks in
32:48
Speaker 2: a row. You know, Ole missed, Ole Miss really did
32:55
Speaker 2: some you know, good stuff with the tight ends against us,
32:58
Speaker 2: and it loosened up. It loosened up the defense a
33:01
Speaker 2: tad bit because now instead of our guys who are
33:04
Speaker 2: very very aggressive at the line of scrimmage, like, instead
33:06
Speaker 2: of them crashing down, they're kind of wondering about that,
33:09
Speaker 2: you know, next tight end that's going to slip back
33:11
Speaker 2: behind them. And so I don't think that Missouri has,
33:17
Speaker 2: you know, the tight end that you know, the preg
33:20
Speaker 2: sworn kid that old miss had. But if they decided
33:25
Speaker 2: to play this game extremely methodical, I think that that
33:30
Speaker 2: that serves them better. Now, if they come out and
33:33
Speaker 2: they're like, hey, we're just going to play our offense
33:36
Speaker 2: and we're going to go, then they're gonna make mistakes
33:39
Speaker 2: and and that's where you because you know we saw
33:43
Speaker 2: with Hypel in the Tennessee game he said no, no more.
33:47
Speaker 2: He's like, all we got to do is just punt
33:49
Speaker 2: the ball and just run out on defense, and we're
33:52
Speaker 2: going to be fine. We got to lead. They're not scored,
33:56
Speaker 2: and we've seen it from you know, we even nobody
34:00
Speaker 2: could really pull away, you know, and to continue like
34:03
Speaker 2: you get us out a couple and sure, like that's
34:05
Speaker 2: that's where you know, we're always gonna get something up.
34:07
Speaker 2: But I just I just think this defense is something
34:11
Speaker 2: really really ready for for Missouri because I mean, essentially
34:16
Speaker 2: we heard that they practice on Missouri last week too.
34:21
Speaker 1: So as possibility you goat. Yeah. I know we want
34:26
Speaker 1: this game. I know we're ready to go. We're ready
34:31
Speaker 1: to go for this one. I'm just hoping we didn't
34:34
Speaker 1: over prepare and we really go out there and go
34:39
Speaker 1: hit these dudes. Yeah, you can just end it, get
34:42
Speaker 1: it over with. I mean, Zion Young's so we want
34:44
Speaker 1: to keep your eyes on him and Johnny Walker. You know,
34:48
Speaker 1: Tulsa boy, Chris mccleveland you gotta make sure you watch
34:53
Speaker 1: out for him. He's got with three sacks this season
34:55
Speaker 1: so far. So he's been doing decent like that. Their
35:00
Speaker 1: run game defense has been. But on our side, on
35:03
Speaker 1: the defensive side, I'm I really want us to get
35:09
Speaker 1: at least four sacks in this game. I think that's
35:13
Speaker 1: the thing that will tell me if we're doing well,
35:16
Speaker 1: is because I know that most likely if and then
35:19
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep saying if until it's official, Cook doesn't play.
35:22
Speaker 1: Pine's out there. They're gonna try to get rid of
35:24
Speaker 1: the ball out of it and get the ball out
35:25
Speaker 1: of his hands as fast as possible. And I think
35:27
Speaker 1: Tota mission this earlier too. One thing that they're gonna
35:29
Speaker 1: try to do very quickly is put do like a
35:31
Speaker 1: whole bunch of like jet sweeps. They're gonna try to
35:34
Speaker 1: get Luther Burden in space and let him do his thing,
35:36
Speaker 1: kind of like Ryan Wingo like Texas does with him
35:39
Speaker 1: or you know, Ohio s does with Jeremiah Smith. They're
35:44
Speaker 1: gonna try to get that dude in space, get the
35:47
Speaker 1: ball in his hands, and let him go juke folks.
35:50
Speaker 1: I think we'll be prepared for that, but we gotta
35:53
Speaker 1: keep pressure on Pine if Cook's out there, make him scramble,
35:57
Speaker 1: make him use that ankle, put keep him in pain.
36:02
Speaker 2: And so you're going to see if Cook runs out there,
36:06
Speaker 2: You're you're you're probably going to see either Danny or
36:09
Speaker 2: Sammy or you know, uh, you know one of the
36:14
Speaker 2: other safety is coming in on on a blitz because
36:19
Speaker 2: we're yeah, we're going to start trying to get him
36:20
Speaker 2: off a spot. Let's see how Let's see how that works.
36:23
Speaker 2: Because you're also gotta think that he's going to be
36:25
Speaker 2: a little hesitant just winging the ball around with that
36:27
Speaker 2: hand too. So yeah, I mean, I Stephen, I'm I'm
36:33
Speaker 2: down with that comment. You just line up Eli Bowen
36:37
Speaker 2: right on the other side of Burden and just say
36:42
Speaker 2: go get it, you know, because I think that whether
36:46
Speaker 2: it's whether it's Dez or whether it's Jacoba Johnson or
36:53
Speaker 2: can I. I mean, the Oz isn't going to burn you.
36:58
Speaker 2: He's not. He's not a you know, merchant like he
37:01
Speaker 2: was kind of coming out of high school. He's a good,
37:05
Speaker 2: good possession receiver. But and then they they have the
37:07
Speaker 2: other guy.
37:08
Speaker 3: The it's his name, Mookie, Mookie Carter, Mookie Cooper, Mookie Cooper.
37:14
Speaker 3: He's actually he's he's downful.
37:16
Speaker 1: I think he's out all right.
37:19
Speaker 2: So then yeah, then you're probably going to see a
37:22
Speaker 2: world where if he's outful, okay, if the game stays close,
37:27
Speaker 2: you're gonna see a world where Luther Burton probably touches
37:30
Speaker 2: the ball in excess of twelve times. You know. That's
37:33
Speaker 2: a that's a that's a pretty good you know. Now,
37:35
Speaker 2: if we were to cast some chaos and the offense
37:39
Speaker 2: comes out with the pulse and we get up by
37:41
Speaker 2: a couple of scores, you know, that might be a
37:44
Speaker 2: game to where he just comes and there's a decoy
37:47
Speaker 2: on some of the routes.
37:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. They're gonna have
37:53
Speaker 1: to get the ball. They're gonn they're gonna spend most
37:56
Speaker 1: of the time with the ball in Luther Burton's even
37:59
Speaker 1: as good as he is, they're not They're gonna they're
38:00
Speaker 1: gonna have to find a way to keep the ball
38:04
Speaker 1: in Burden's hands at all times.
38:09
Speaker 2: And uh, I mean if you're down one of the
38:11
Speaker 2: running backs already, that's I mean, that's tough too, because
38:16
Speaker 2: I mean, you know that being the smaller guys, because
38:20
Speaker 2: that that would be the Jackson's or is it Jackson?
38:23
Speaker 2: Was it Georgia State? They're the cats from Georgia State,
38:26
Speaker 2: And I mean, I don't think that he's a thirty
38:28
Speaker 2: five carry back or I don't think that he can
38:32
Speaker 2: hold that up. So now you're who else are we
38:34
Speaker 2: going to be bringing in? Yeah, it's it's it's it's
38:41
Speaker 2: a hard feeling, Jay because I feel so much confidence
38:44
Speaker 2: in this game, and but it's like I'm not completely
38:49
Speaker 2: out of the loop of what's happened in the previous
38:52
Speaker 2: you know, seven weeks. It's just it's just tough.
38:56
Speaker 1: I think this is a pretty hot take. Ja throws
38:59
Speaker 1: for two seventy five. If both wide receivers are a go,
39:03
Speaker 1: might be right that maybe, Ye, that's that's a pretty
39:05
Speaker 1: spicy one. I still got to the opensive line.
39:09
Speaker 2: Does yeah, and just don't make the same mistake over
39:15
Speaker 2: and over again. Like that's pretty much. That's pretty much
39:19
Speaker 2: it is. Don't make the same mistake. I mean, Gabe
39:23
Speaker 2: said that. You know, it was at the Old Miss
39:25
Speaker 2: game that gave them ten sacks, but really four of
39:28
Speaker 2: them were on like quarterback, you know, scrambles where his
39:30
Speaker 2: tackles tackle for loss. So like that that sounds a
39:33
Speaker 2: little bit more palatable, even though nine sacks the week before.
39:36
Speaker 2: But it's I mean, can it get worse? I don't
39:43
Speaker 2: think it can, can it? I So, I mean, you
39:49
Speaker 2: just hope that Jackson can. If he's going to get
39:52
Speaker 2: hit a lot, then let's just hope to God that
39:54
Speaker 2: you know he can he can hold up.
39:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be the question. It's how well is
40:01
Speaker 1: this young offensive line gonna play in this game on
40:03
Speaker 1: the road. Oh yeah, top for thanks for saying that.
40:08
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jay and Jackson.
40:09
Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Yes, happy birthday, Jayden.
40:13
Speaker 1: I was hopefully he gets a sack this weekend. I
40:17
Speaker 1: would like to do that.
40:19
Speaker 2: It's good too. What the hell? None?
40:24
Speaker 1: I just I think we need to get We need
40:25
Speaker 1: to get at least four sacks all the defensive side.
40:29
Speaker 2: I think that's good. Uh, you know, and I'd like
40:31
Speaker 2: to get us back up above ten tackles for loss.
40:34
Speaker 2: Uh you know, it's been a few weeks since we've
40:36
Speaker 2: been up there on the TfL's. Yeah, just just reset,
40:42
Speaker 2: I mean, just reset the uh you know, the line
40:48
Speaker 2: of scrimmage every single play. That's I mean, that's that's
40:50
Speaker 2: what you can you can do. This offensive line is
40:53
Speaker 2: not it's not stellar. And you know that there's a
40:57
Speaker 2: couple of holes, and you get them guessing on who's
41:01
Speaker 2: coming from where like Brave Vetables could do or you
41:04
Speaker 2: you know, you get these guys, you know, executing some
41:06
Speaker 2: of these twists and these stunts. It could be about
41:10
Speaker 2: it could I mean, you get Drew Pine moving around
41:12
Speaker 2: and speeding the game up for him, he will reward you.
41:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need more of those totally here for that.
41:22
Speaker 1: Let's get some interceptions, soys, get some interceptions thrown. He
41:25
Speaker 1: threw what three against Alabama out of his twelve passes,
41:29
Speaker 1: three of them were picked, six of them were completed.
41:31
Speaker 2: And it's not like Alabama earned any of those. One
41:34
Speaker 2: of them the guy just had literally had under coverage.
41:38
Speaker 2: And I mean it hit him right in the hit
41:41
Speaker 2: him right in the chest. The other one, he just
41:43
Speaker 2: threw it right down the middle of the middle of
41:45
Speaker 2: the field, threw it on the field side of a
41:47
Speaker 2: of a you know route on the sideline, and Alabama's
41:51
Speaker 2: guys in better, better space than he was. So he's
41:54
Speaker 2: going to give you the opportunity. And no, no to
41:57
Speaker 2: Jhonte Cook John Tey Cook can go play at Texas
41:59
Speaker 2: State eight.
42:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, We're not gonna do anything with John Tay Cook.
42:03
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll have any interest. That sounds like
42:05
Speaker 1: that was not a very good situation there. Uh, Steven
42:08
Speaker 1: got a good question here, what should Jay Joe John
42:11
Speaker 1: Finley do this game to get an interview for permanent
42:14
Speaker 1: OC job?
42:17
Speaker 2: Invent a time machine? I mean that's pretty much it.
42:22
Speaker 2: I don't I think he's coaching for some for something
42:25
Speaker 2: else in the future. Uh, just not here. And but
42:33
Speaker 2: he still is the coach here and I still would
42:36
Speaker 2: like to see I still would like to see a
42:39
Speaker 2: little winning streak at the end of the year here.
42:42
Speaker 2: I think that, uh, you've got to show that this
42:47
Speaker 2: offense is getting better all three weeks that you've been
42:50
Speaker 2: the play caller, that we've seen that progression one. Yeah,
42:56
Speaker 2: that's step one. You can't disappear for large to the game.
43:02
Speaker 2: I think that's it. If the offense starts, you know,
43:04
Speaker 2: really struggling. You can't do three straight three and outs.
43:10
Speaker 2: Get better on or down, show some improvement on third
43:13
Speaker 2: down because third down has This might be the worst
43:18
Speaker 2: team I've ever seen on third down conversion. I don't
43:23
Speaker 2: know if if there's one and another one out there.
43:25
Speaker 2: I mean even Iowa they couldn't score, but even they
43:29
Speaker 2: could move the ball, you know, two years ago. So yeah,
43:33
Speaker 2: that's it is. I want to see the third down
43:35
Speaker 2: conversions just look like we had a plan. Just look
43:40
Speaker 2: like we got a damn fully in.
43:41
Speaker 1: So I'd say, for if you want to guarantee him
43:46
Speaker 1: a interview opportunity, five hundred yards of offense, that's really it.
43:52
Speaker 1: Five hundred yards offense. He gets five hundred yards of offense,
43:55
Speaker 1: then they're gonna be like, all right, we'll we'll let
43:58
Speaker 1: you because he's gonna interview regardless. But I think that's
44:01
Speaker 1: one that I just want to look at. Rex had
44:05
Speaker 1: a good one earlier. Top two OC candidates, I'll be honest,
44:11
Speaker 1: is one reason why I haven't talked much about the
44:14
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator job or who I really have on my
44:17
Speaker 1: list of people, because I need to see what jobs
44:20
Speaker 1: are going to be available. In today's game, everyone is
44:26
Speaker 1: chasing an offensive minded coach, even though most of your
44:32
Speaker 1: offensive minded coach coaches do not win you national championships,
44:37
Speaker 1: like right now, perfect example Oregon is they're undefeated right now,
44:42
Speaker 1: Oregon has a defensive minded head coach and Dan Lanning
44:46
Speaker 1: Kirby smart defensive minded head coach. Right so a lot
44:51
Speaker 1: of your defensive minded people are the ones that they
44:57
Speaker 1: grab an offensive coordinator, get them in for a couple
44:59
Speaker 1: of years, offensive quarter of the leaves and they switch
45:01
Speaker 1: it up. But you also got to look at you
45:05
Speaker 1: need someone that's gonna be able to handle the pace
45:07
Speaker 1: of your team. Like right now, Indiana's undefeated. Everybody's looking
45:10
Speaker 1: at Shanahan. I don't know if he leaves Signati. I
45:14
Speaker 1: don't think he leaves him. It just doesn't feel like
45:17
Speaker 1: he would leave. And the question is what's the next
45:20
Speaker 1: job opening, because there's always a possibility that he ends
45:23
Speaker 1: up meeting a head coaching job based upon who gets
45:26
Speaker 1: axed over the next two weeks. But if I was
45:31
Speaker 1: to think of two based upon ones that match the
45:35
Speaker 1: pace of what we would want based upon the way
45:37
Speaker 1: our offense plays. I look at Joe Krattick down there
45:42
Speaker 1: at Tulane, very good with time of possession, strong run game.
45:46
Speaker 1: Passing game is also solid. But they they figure out
45:51
Speaker 1: ways to get the offensive line going even if they're undersized.
45:54
Speaker 1: Tulane does pretty well with him. Joe's want to look
45:56
Speaker 1: at next one. I'm looking at the guys down there
45:59
Speaker 1: at Texas State, probably left Witch offensive coordinator. He's one
46:03
Speaker 1: I'm looking at. I. I'm not looking at Brennan Marion.
46:10
Speaker 1: I think he's a great coach. I don't know if
46:12
Speaker 1: that's gonna make it an SEC. You gotta remember, gimmicky
46:16
Speaker 1: offenses do not last in the SEC for very long.
46:19
Speaker 1: Like at all we've seen. We've seen Kirby's smart, We've
46:23
Speaker 1: seen Nick Saban sniff follow that out, and a lot
46:25
Speaker 1: of those defensive minds are still in the SEC they
46:27
Speaker 1: put us. Put it this way, look at how Lane
46:30
Speaker 1: Kiffin and Josh hype Up been playing this season. Besides
46:32
Speaker 1: how Lane did last weekends Arkansas. That was their first
46:35
Speaker 1: game over twenties, over twenty five, third first game over
46:39
Speaker 1: thirty points in the SEC this season. Sorry, couldn't get
46:42
Speaker 1: it out, but they but they But in non conference
46:45
Speaker 1: they blast everybody in conference their struggles. LSU didn't have
46:51
Speaker 1: a very good defense. That's the reason why their scores
46:53
Speaker 1: are always so high. We've seen that with everybody they played.
46:56
Speaker 1: But SEC sniffs that stuff out. If you're building your
47:02
Speaker 1: offense to face a team like Georgia, you don't want
47:04
Speaker 1: to go with there in a gimmick. They will sniff
47:07
Speaker 1: you out quickly.
47:08
Speaker 2: It's I mean, really, what it is is what made
47:15
Speaker 2: Mike Leach's offense great. Well, it was revolutionary and it's changed, changed, changed,
47:24
Speaker 2: you know, changed a lot of stuff. But those offenses
47:28
Speaker 2: and speed d we all remember that all those things
47:32
Speaker 2: are made to basically just cause chaos when you are
47:37
Speaker 2: out athleted and but that there's a big difference because
47:42
Speaker 2: when you go into SEC and they are faster than
47:46
Speaker 2: you by a significant amount. And yeah, so I just
47:52
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. I don't see the go
47:54
Speaker 2: go offense being something that, to be honest with you,
48:00
Speaker 2: I don't know if Brenton Fennible's cares too much for that.
48:03
Speaker 1: He probably doesn't. You need something that's going to like
48:06
Speaker 1: I said, compliment yours and Chester. I mean, I see, yeah,
48:09
Speaker 1: we struggled. Yes, we've watched. Go look at what old
48:12
Speaker 1: miss and Tennessee's doing right now. Josh Haipel's the offensive genius,
48:16
Speaker 1: struggling getting getting the points that they normally would get.
48:21
Speaker 1: Is that what you want to so you can continue
48:23
Speaker 1: to complain, No, I don't. I'm trying to get something
48:26
Speaker 1: we can put up. I'm trying to get something that's
48:28
Speaker 1: gonna give us time and possession and defense. That's two
48:31
Speaker 1: things I'm looking at. And t You make a good
48:35
Speaker 1: point money talks. That's why I said head coaching job.
48:38
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't sing, well, see job, probably gonna
48:41
Speaker 1: get a head coaching job. Most of the other dudes
48:43
Speaker 1: get head coaching job opportunities. And I heard that there's
48:47
Speaker 1: already people circling Shanahan for a head coaching job.
48:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody will take that pretty quickly, especially man. Just
48:59
Speaker 2: I mean, you just try to think about it. I mean,
49:01
Speaker 2: will he end up in the SEC I don't know.
49:02
Speaker 2: I think that he'll probably recycle on the big ten,
49:07
Speaker 2: you know, so that might be a situation where he
49:09
Speaker 2: can get himself. You never know what's going to happen
49:15
Speaker 2: in Michigan, So uh, you know, because there does the
49:19
Speaker 2: NCAA want to try to flex or do they just
49:24
Speaker 2: trying to let stuff go naturally?
49:29
Speaker 1: Right? But I think Cradick is probably one of the
49:33
Speaker 1: one of the highest on the lists. I've seen a
49:35
Speaker 1: few articles talking about that. And with Kradick, he has
49:38
Speaker 1: ties to BV. He worked at Clemson, right, just like
49:41
Speaker 1: Zach Ally had ties to BV because he worked with
49:44
Speaker 1: him at Clemson. So there's a connection there. And like
49:46
Speaker 1: I said, again, his offense is very well paced and
49:50
Speaker 1: he can put up big numbers if you need to.
49:52
Speaker 1: It's just hard man. Like I said, my struggle with
49:55
Speaker 1: the ranking of OC's and candidates is I like to
49:59
Speaker 1: be as realistic as possible while and the reality of
50:04
Speaker 1: all of this is that when head coaching jobs open,
50:07
Speaker 1: they always go for offensive guys is first. That's who
50:09
Speaker 1: they always go for. Like it's rare to see the
50:12
Speaker 1: situation where Dan Lanning gets that job. That's why Dan
50:15
Speaker 1: Lanning is one of like five defensive guys. Fran Brown
50:19
Speaker 1: got the job at Syracuse because Syracuse said, screw it,
50:21
Speaker 1: we need to just figure out something new, and so
50:23
Speaker 1: they went and got the dB coach from Georgia. You
50:25
Speaker 1: see what I mean. So it's tough. Saban was a
50:28
Speaker 1: defensive guy. Kirby defensive guy, BV defensive guy. So that's
50:32
Speaker 1: where this is gonna be tough for BV because going
50:36
Speaker 1: for offensive coordinators, you're not gonna keep anybody longer than
50:38
Speaker 1: two years, especially if they're successful. If you get the
50:41
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator that all the fans want, all the fans
50:44
Speaker 1: are excited about, you're not gonna have longer than two years.
50:46
Speaker 1: So you're gonna be doing this exact same cycle again.
50:49
Speaker 1: That's what we got to prepare ourselves for. We're gonna
50:52
Speaker 1: be doing this again and then again, and then again
50:57
Speaker 1: and then again, yeah, and then again.
51:00
Speaker 2: Well, it's whatever happens. You know, we said it, you know,
51:06
Speaker 2: pretty significantly. Do the process their appropriate way, right, don't
51:12
Speaker 2: let's make the process happen. You know, you need a
51:16
Speaker 2: quarterback coach who is going to be able to develop
51:20
Speaker 2: a quarterback. That's extremely important because you can't just hope
51:26
Speaker 2: that them running the offense over and over and over
51:28
Speaker 2: again is going to make him a better quarterback, because
51:32
Speaker 2: there's a lot more to it than that.
51:34
Speaker 1: So, yeah, why would Levy leave a head coaching job
51:38
Speaker 1: to come back. Your serious question, Corey, can you can
51:41
Speaker 1: you elaborate on that? Why would he leave a head
51:44
Speaker 1: coaching job to come back? Because he's only in his
51:46
Speaker 1: first year and every every coach gets at least three years.
51:50
Speaker 1: I could see Leaby coming back if he gets fired
51:52
Speaker 1: in three years. But I'm talking about today, who's leaving
51:56
Speaker 1: a head coaching job to come be an offensive coordinator.
51:59
Speaker 1: That's especially SEC head coach not going nowhere Chester. You're
52:03
Speaker 1: asking about male Zone. Mal Zone's head coach at UCF
52:07
Speaker 1: and he just fired his DC, so the game of
52:09
Speaker 1: ote confidence he's gonna come back.
52:12
Speaker 2: Uh.
52:14
Speaker 1: I don't know if Dan Mullens wants to be an
52:16
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, though that name has been brought up a lot.
52:20
Speaker 2: I've heard it.
52:20
Speaker 1: But I wonder if he's gonna end up getting a
52:23
Speaker 1: ACC head coaching job hmmm, because there's gonna be some
52:33
Speaker 1: job openings in the ACC and that might be an
52:37
Speaker 1: easy conference of going to. It's funny because it's funny
52:40
Speaker 1: to think about, like I think about, like the Mike
52:41
Speaker 1: Norville situation, how awful Florida State was. Is if Florida
52:46
Speaker 1: State could afford to get rid of him he would
52:49
Speaker 1: be one of the hot offensive coordinators in college football. Yeah,
52:52
Speaker 1: because he did some magic at Memphis and he did
52:56
Speaker 1: magic at Florida State's first couple of years.
52:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dan Mullenetwick line at North Carolina.
53:01
Speaker 1: There you go. I could see Mac Jones get Mack
53:04
Speaker 1: Brown mc brown getting fired, not Jones, Mac with is
53:09
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville as a backup to Tervid Lawrence. But I
53:12
Speaker 1: could totally see mac Brown getting fired and Dann Wullen
53:18
Speaker 1: taking that job. That's an intriguing one. But I'm but
53:24
Speaker 1: and again, I also say that on the waiting for
53:30
Speaker 1: jobs to open, because what head coach that ended up
53:33
Speaker 1: getting fired, which where we possibly could take, Like I know,
53:35
Speaker 1: there was a common a lot of name. That one
53:37
Speaker 1: namail Is thrown out was Billy Napier. But he's gotten
53:40
Speaker 1: a voter confidence. He ain't going nowhere. Unless they said
53:43
Speaker 1: that to get dudes to commit and then gonna can
53:45
Speaker 1: them after they signed, that would be awful.
53:48
Speaker 2: Doesn't sound very Florida to me.
53:54
Speaker 1: That's a very good point. That's a very good point.
53:56
Speaker 1: That does sound Florida. What other head coaches that may
54:01
Speaker 1: end up losing their job that it will be adventures
54:03
Speaker 1: Because I say this, I know some people are gonna
54:05
Speaker 1: be like, oh, why would you want somebody got fired
54:07
Speaker 1: from their job. Swien Nick Saban did. He hired Lane
54:10
Speaker 1: Kiffy our Steve Sarkisian fired head coaches that had really
54:14
Speaker 1: good offenses. He brought them in and let them change
54:18
Speaker 1: the way their offenses are running. Yeah, and it worked.
54:22
Speaker 1: You got the talent with it and in boom, the
54:24
Speaker 1: offenses went out there and blew up. That's what you
54:26
Speaker 1: gotta that's the way you gotta look at it. And
54:28
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to figure out what what head coach
54:38
Speaker 1: could be someone to consider. That's what I'm wondering about.
54:48
Speaker 2: At o't.
54:50
Speaker 1: He's in the NFL with the Seattle Seahawks. They're doing
54:53
Speaker 1: actually really good right now. That's what Ryan Grubb is.
54:55
Speaker 1: Ryan Grubb's offense, according to Seattle Seahawks, he ain't going nowhere,
55:00
Speaker 1: got the easy job. He got a recruit. That's funny.
55:04
Speaker 1: That's a funny one. Corey, Mike McCarthy, would you consider that, coop?
55:10
Speaker 2: No, no, no, because.
55:14
Speaker 1: His offense has been that bad that we just be like, nah,
55:16
Speaker 1: I'm good.
55:19
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, you know what, being the head
55:26
Speaker 2: coach of the Dallas Cowboys is like, I mean, it's just, yeah, you're,
55:33
Speaker 2: you know, unable to do everything that you want to
55:36
Speaker 2: do because you got somebody to love you.
55:39
Speaker 1: Now, Absolutely not. They're saying no, which is so funny.
55:43
Speaker 1: It's true. There's very few NFL coaches I would expect
55:49
Speaker 1: to be able to want to would be willing to
55:50
Speaker 1: go down to college. Yeah, there's very few that I
55:55
Speaker 1: could name that would possibly do that.
56:00
Speaker 2: Yeah.
56:02
Speaker 1: He's like, once you get the taste of the NFL
56:05
Speaker 1: and you get that freedom time off. But some of
56:10
Speaker 1: them do love it though. I'm not gonna lie to
56:12
Speaker 1: some people. I mean, heck you litill Bill O'Brien's back.
56:15
Speaker 1: He didn't went back and forth fight three times, and
56:18
Speaker 1: he's not doing too bad at Boston College. I think
56:21
Speaker 1: it's funny. I think a lot of them would consider
56:23
Speaker 1: going to smaller schools or they know recruiting isn't as
56:26
Speaker 1: hectic as it is at the big schools. Cush job,
56:30
Speaker 1: make seven figures work?
56:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's you know, and again there's a lot
56:41
Speaker 2: of coaches that want nothing to do. I mean, I
56:43
Speaker 2: think that Harbaugh was pretty much over the a lot,
56:48
Speaker 2: but the recruiting piece and he was more than happy
56:51
Speaker 2: to go. And now I don't think he had much
56:52
Speaker 2: of a choice because he'd probably be suspended. But you
56:57
Speaker 2: know a lot of these guys, who's the cat, who's
56:59
Speaker 2: the Tampa bay O c.
57:03
Speaker 1: Oh Liam?
57:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, Liam Cohen, he was the Kentucky Yeah. Like so,
57:09
Speaker 2: I mean, like you don't have to do that anymore.
57:11
Speaker 2: You literally just get to do offense and do football.
57:16
Speaker 2: And that's probably a lot easier than you know, having
57:23
Speaker 2: your fifth meeting of the week from a player that's
57:27
Speaker 2: asking for more more in Ale.
57:31
Speaker 1: Yeah.
57:32
Speaker 2: H but I guess such.
57:37
Speaker 1: A funny one to see. That's a funny name to mention.
57:40
Speaker 1: I would have never even thought about him.
57:44
Speaker 2: It's funny when I thought him, but everybody was like
57:47
Speaker 2: Mark Mangino, I don't think what.
57:51
Speaker 1: Is doing now? I think if there's an old head coach, Dad, Well,
57:57
Speaker 1: actually I wouldn't want this to happen, but I would
58:00
Speaker 1: prefer I would like him to come as an analyst.
58:02
Speaker 2: It's yeah. Kevin Wilson, Yeah, Kevin Wilson is is a
58:08
Speaker 2: name that a lot of people thrown away around also,
58:11
Speaker 2: And if I'm not mistaken, didn't Kevin and Wilson and
58:15
Speaker 2: Brent Vnables always get into it. Or was it Kevin
58:17
Speaker 2: Wilson and Mike Stoops.
58:19
Speaker 1: Kevin Wilson and Invinables.
58:22
Speaker 2: That would be crazy.
58:23
Speaker 1: That was when that was back when Venables defense would
58:26
Speaker 1: they couldn't move the ball against them. Sam Bradford couldn't
58:29
Speaker 1: move the ball on the Venables defense because they would
58:31
Speaker 1: go back and forth in battle. So let's do that.
58:35
Speaker 2: Give me that and Lincoln Riley everybody I've heard Lincoln Riley.
58:40
Speaker 2: First of all, I think his biouts like eighty million
58:43
Speaker 2: dollars or something like that, So.
58:44
Speaker 1: Him and Mike Norville have a ginormous buyouts. They're not
58:47
Speaker 1: losing their jobs for like three years.
58:50
Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, I mean would would you? Would you?
58:55
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, say, hey, Link come on back?
58:57
Speaker 2: Like as an oc, I find that more palatable than
59:03
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant coming back on the thunder.
59:05
Speaker 1: Like, actually, see Kevin Durant coming back on the thunder
59:08
Speaker 1: before that. Really, I can see Presty doing it before
59:16
Speaker 1: that before Lincoln Riley comes, But I don't see Kevin
59:19
Speaker 1: Durank coming back.
59:20
Speaker 2: Yeah. Who was who were people who were fans rougher
59:29
Speaker 2: on kd or t Bow Oh that's a good question
59:36
Speaker 2: because I mean, like.
59:36
Speaker 1: Fans have been burned so many times.
59:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, pain KD Like you know, you know we called
59:43
Speaker 2: him cupcake for I mean still I'm guessing that people
59:47
Speaker 2: still call him cupcake and uh but uh, I mean
59:53
Speaker 2: Riley got tbo W. That's what we know him about
59:57
Speaker 2: around here. So uh yeah, all right, look at.
1:00:04
Speaker 1: This, Missouri doomed. I'm gonna go ahead and let me
1:00:07
Speaker 1: go ahead and butt you don know exactly who this is.
1:00:10
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm gonna butt you. I'm gonna but you. Yeah, no,
1:00:16
Speaker 1: that's there's no hope missoo, MISSU doomed. Uh. Ronald's hurt. Yeah,
1:00:27
Speaker 1: he's injured. He heard his hamstring before, oh, miss and
1:00:33
Speaker 1: he is questionable on the contract. He's he's questionable on
1:00:38
Speaker 1: the availability right now. Let me see yep, he's listened
1:00:41
Speaker 1: as questionable. Hum and Barnes and Bates has dropped to doubtful.
1:00:48
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a good chance though possibility.
1:00:54
Speaker 2: But anyway, Hey, do you think we see any backtracking
1:00:57
Speaker 2: on the on the bird app from people say that
1:01:00
Speaker 2: our receivers were sitting out for nil so they could
1:01:03
Speaker 2: transfer and everything. Do you think we'll see any backtracking,
1:01:06
Speaker 2: or do you think that.
1:01:08
Speaker 1: The minute that they go on the field, no catch
1:01:20
Speaker 1: catch the ball, they catch a pass I made, they
1:01:23
Speaker 1: catch your pass? People will shut up about that.
1:01:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a you know what's crazy is you know
1:01:36
Speaker 2: we forget that. Going into the season, we were trying
1:01:40
Speaker 2: to convince ourselves that the offensive line wasn't going to
1:01:43
Speaker 2: be so bad that it wouldn't hold us out from
1:01:46
Speaker 2: being a top ten offense. And now as we're like
1:01:51
Speaker 2: the hell that we've ridden through this entire year, now
1:01:55
Speaker 2: it's literally not even the starting offensive line. It's we're
1:01:59
Speaker 2: now on our third string in some places, in the
1:02:02
Speaker 2: second string, like so like go rewinds eight, nine, ten weeks,
1:02:06
Speaker 2: and if I just told you, like the offensive line
1:02:09
Speaker 2: is gonna be worse than you imagine, it's it to
1:02:11
Speaker 2: be like I don't think I could have imagined it
1:02:15
Speaker 2: any worse than I was kind of nervous about. But
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Speaker 2: we achieved it. We achieved it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So tomorrow's injury report availability, the tomorrow's available player
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Speaker 1: availability will probably be the last one. It'll be the
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Speaker 1: one that'll be setting stone. So with the guys being probable,
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Speaker 1: now I'm sensing there coming off the list, and we'll
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Speaker 1: find out who traveled with the team and who didn't.
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Speaker 1: So cool final score. Who thinks what's the thing score
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Speaker 1: gonna be? Give me a score in the comments as well.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that I'm not gonna go out
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Speaker 2: and say that we're gonna score forty, but I mean
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Speaker 2: I think it's thing along the lines like thirty two
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Speaker 2: to ten. I mean, I think it's decisive. There's not
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Speaker 2: going to be any but you know, I think that
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Speaker 2: the offense, I mean, this is a this is a
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Speaker 2: step up from me. And obviously one hundred percent understand that,
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Speaker 2: but I think that just like you said last time,
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Speaker 2: seeing the ball go in the hoop, like, I think
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Speaker 2: that that's going to help this. And I do think that,
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Speaker 2: I do think that this there's a little bit more
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Speaker 2: want than just to win the game. There's you kind
1:03:31
Speaker 2: of want to like send a message here.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like that that that, yeah, this is
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Speaker 1: wanted badly. My I am twenty six to ten. I
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Speaker 1: think it's a it's a defense dominated dominated game, and
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Speaker 1: I think we win the game twenty six to ten.
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Speaker 1: Missouri's biggest problem is they don't really have anybody to
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Speaker 1: throw the ball or run the ball like they would like. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: if because because I'm telling you break Cook plays, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna blitz hard enough. Get to get a couple of
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Speaker 1: licks on him to where his ankle's gonna bother him
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Speaker 1: or he's throwing because it's the head injuries, is throwing hand.
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Speaker 1: That's everything.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you come down on the helmet one time
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Speaker 2: and smiles are not following you.
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Speaker 1: It's done, and they've got a couple offensive lining out.
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Speaker 1: So I'm saying I'd say twenty six to ten, twenty
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Speaker 1: six eight ten. If we can get a goose egg
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Speaker 1: like Alabama did, I'd be even happier.
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Speaker 2: Hey, single digits and I'll be happy.
1:04:36
Speaker 1: Oh, single bsuits would be amazing. That would just put
1:04:39
Speaker 1: a smile on my face because then I would love
1:04:41
Speaker 1: to see all the whining on the social media's as
1:04:43
Speaker 1: as as Kim mentioned at the beginning of the show,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much Kim for pointing this out. We're
1:04:47
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna play this here. Uh, players, if we're
1:04:50
Speaker 1: gonna end with this, swhy don't feel fee strays to
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Speaker 1: hang around with that? Shout out the prize space. Thanks
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Speaker 1: inspires from the show. You are quote unfair get fifty
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Speaker 1: dollars when you bet your first five dollar lineup, drop
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Speaker 1: your score predictions down, and uh yeah, we will chop
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Speaker 1: it up with y'all after the Missouri game. Peace,