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Allison Tolman Disobeys Bridger · I Said No Gifts! A comedy interview podcast with Bridger Winegar

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I've gotta made myself perfectly clear.
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: presence and I already had too much stuff. So how
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: do you dare to surbey me?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gift temperature winegar. How are
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: you doing? I hope you're doing okay. If you're not,
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: keep that to yourself. What's going on? I mean, I'm
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: starting this way. I did nothing over the weekend. I'm
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: sure some of my software updated. What else is going on?
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: The dishwasher in the office kitchen is broken. It's out
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  Speaker 2: of order, so that's a disaster for me. My dishwasher
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  Speaker 2: a home is working perfectly, and hopefully we'll continue for years.
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  Speaker 2: This is I'm on my second dishwasher. The other one
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  Speaker 2: was making all my dishes stinky, so this one doesn't
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  Speaker 2: do that. I don't know what's wrong with the office dishwasher,
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  Speaker 2: and thank god I don't have to clean any dishes
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  Speaker 2: here because my day would be ruined. Is there anything
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  Speaker 2: else going on? No? I already mentioned there's a good
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  Speaker 2: chance some of my software updated. Now I cut myself shaving.
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  Speaker 2: People don't realize I have to shave every morning and
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: starting to think, can I get my face lasered? I
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  Speaker 2: can't grow a beard yet I have to shave. Enough
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  Speaker 2: is enough? I have to remind you we have the
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  Speaker 2: Patreon and I'm going to try to make it seem
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  Speaker 2: more appealing than I usually do, because I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I usually just act like some died patreon dot com slash.
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  Speaker 2: I said no gifts, have the time of your life
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  Speaker 2: over there bonus episodes of this show from my backyard
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  Speaker 2: recaps of the Housewives, of the Mormon Wives of all
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  Speaker 2: kinds of things. Was that a better pitch? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into the show. I love today's guest. Everybody
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  Speaker 2: loves sir. It's Alison Tolman. Hi, Allison, welcome to I
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  Speaker 2: said no gift.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I'm happy to be here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm all hyped up. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 3: Because of the dishwasher situation.
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  Speaker 2: Does that start in a state of rage?
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  Speaker 3: I absolutely, especially because you have this past trauma with
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  Speaker 3: the stinky dishes.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever had a dishwasher fail on you?
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  Speaker 3: I my dishwasher in my old apartment, my ex and
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  Speaker 3: I used to call it just like the hot box
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  Speaker 3: where we kept dishes sometimes because it didn't. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think it did anything really right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like when you buy a dishwasher, it
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: should probably last for at least the span of a
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  Speaker 2: marriage or something. Yeah, that's appropriate. This was like two years,
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  Speaker 2: which feels very to be fair.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I mean the one in the old apartment.
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  Speaker 3: I was the first person living in that apartment. I
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  Speaker 3: think it was just a bad dish I think it
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  Speaker 3: was never good.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it did hard fail.
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  Speaker 3: I started with a bad one. But now I have
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  Speaker 3: moved and I have a good dishwasher, and it has changed.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even know what good dishwashers were, like, I
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  Speaker 3: really didn't know, right, So it's pretty exciting.
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  Speaker 2: This dishwasher, the one that broke, was a great dishwasher
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  Speaker 2: until it broke. And now this one. I you know,
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  Speaker 2: I read all the reviews. It's a disaster. But now
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  Speaker 2: I'm stuck with it because it works. Not sure where
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  Speaker 2: do I go from here. I'm not going to.
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  Speaker 3: Just before the marriage end.
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  Speaker 2: Insane, truly, it's out of control. I guess I'll just
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  Speaker 2: wait for it to like flood and ruin my kitchen
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  Speaker 2: or something that's good. Then we'll move on from Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: good plan. How was your weekend?
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  Speaker 3: My weekend was good. It was what pretty lazy. I
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  Speaker 3: went and saw a movie last night. I went and
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  Speaker 3: saw Send Help.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Send Help, of course, which was fun.
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  Speaker 3: Just Sam Raimi, bloody, lots of fluids escaping from the body.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that at some point. Yeah, I had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of fluids, a lot of blood on people. But
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting so much of it to just kind
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  Speaker 2: of be fun on the beach. Yeah, there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of fun on truly right.
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  Speaker 3: On the beach.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I feel like all of the trailers and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that it would just be her hunting down
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  Speaker 2: her coworkers and blood everywhere, that's part of the movie.
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  Speaker 2: But then I was like, oh they are they're in paradise, yeah, eating.
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  Speaker 3: And it's beautiful, you know it. Listen, it's hard to
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  Speaker 3: get a movie made these days. You have to incentivize
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  Speaker 3: that's part of You've.
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  Speaker 2: Got to make it kind of pleasant. And then there's
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  Speaker 2: the big bore. I this is something with me. I
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  Speaker 2: think forest animals, and now this has become I'm talking
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  Speaker 2: too much about this. Forest animals created from CGI. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we kind of get some more puppets going.
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  Speaker 3: Miss you missed practical effects.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, even if it was kind of just like
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  Speaker 2: a really terrible looking bore, but it was like someone
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  Speaker 2: had made it out of paper machine or something.
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  Speaker 3: I will say knowing because it was so so CGI,
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  Speaker 3: I minded less when it was like stabbed in the
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  Speaker 3: eyeball with a stick.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. I was thinking through that. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: this is going to feel bad when the animal gets Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, that's a drawing. He's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like most if it's an animal that
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  Speaker 2: exists in reality, nobody wants to see again. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: you have to make it has to be a literal
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  Speaker 2: monster for people to be And they.
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  Speaker 3: Did make him. That boar pretty monstrous, right, it was
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  Speaker 3: almost like it was like it's they It's eyebrows were
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  Speaker 3: it was angry, like an evil person. He was like rabbit.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but boars are kind of vicious.
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  Speaker 3: They can be. We have and I'm from Texas and
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  Speaker 3: we have right Havelina's in Texas that are like they're
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  Speaker 3: they can be really dangerous and big.
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen one in reality?
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  Speaker 3: I've seen little Havelina's like little katie pies, but not
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  Speaker 3: like if you live out in like West Texas, like
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  Speaker 3: out in the country, you have to be careful while
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  Speaker 3: you're walking, like you have to what are they doing?
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  Speaker 2: They're like charging people or they bite it.
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  Speaker 3: They will charge and they'll they'll like gore you. I know,
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  Speaker 3: they'll kill you. They're really and they're like huge, you know,
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  Speaker 3: pigs get so massive.
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  Speaker 2: And to what end? Because then they don't eat you, right,
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  Speaker 2: they just want you did just jerrymandering.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're just trying to in Texas, that's the
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  Speaker 3: main thing.
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  Speaker 2: They're trying to fix the vote. Exactly where did you
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  Speaker 2: see the babies?
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  Speaker 3: The babies I actually saw most recently in Sedona in Arizona.
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  Speaker 3: You can see them in the desert at sunset, just
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  Speaker 3: kind of trotting along.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's very sweet. It's very cute. And then they
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  Speaker 2: kind of just reality.
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  Speaker 3: They watched the news and they're like, look, they get
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  Speaker 3: they're radicalized online.
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  Speaker 2: Their algorithm eventually gets to exactly exactly what other sort
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  Speaker 2: of wildlife were you're dealing with in Texas.
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  Speaker 3: We have well, there's gators. We have gators, and realize
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  Speaker 3: that gators my parents emiliator that lives in the lake
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  Speaker 3: behind their house.
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  Speaker 2: How long has it been there forever?
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  Speaker 3: Twenty years? A long time. It's like a six fine.
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  Speaker 3: But you know they have a bulkhead on around the
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  Speaker 3: lake so it can't crawl out and eat.
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  Speaker 2: The Oh interesting, it's trapped in there.
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  Speaker 3: It lives. It's that's where it lives. Yeah, he's in there.
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  Speaker 2: So does it have a name.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure that it does, but I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: it is.
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  Speaker 2: How is somebody not I've never asked be a famous
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  Speaker 2: local gates? It should be.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of gaters in Houston, but that's
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  Speaker 3: just the one that I have been. Wow, the most exist.
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  Speaker 2: Not associate gaters with Houston.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty swampy in Houston.
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  Speaker 2: I guess it is humid there another thing that you
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  Speaker 2: don't expect.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so we've got gators, We've got My mom actually,
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  Speaker 3: for a while was licensed by the state of Texas
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  Speaker 3: to raise orphaned raccoons, squirrels, possums, and bats. Wow, we
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  Speaker 3: have all of those, and I've had all of those
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  Speaker 3: in my childhood home.
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  Speaker 2: And you interacted with them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because she like she used to like rehabilitate the
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  Speaker 3: little babies.
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  Speaker 2: And they're all pretty sweet, right, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: They're wild, they're pretty sweet to her because they're like,
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  Speaker 3: that's my.
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  Speaker 2: Mom, now depend on this one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but even like kittens and puppies are pretty wild.
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  Speaker 3: They fight and they climb up you with their little
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  Speaker 3: claws and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Right, but when it's or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: So she only did one bat I think I don't
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  Speaker 3: know that that panned out, but she did so many raccoons,
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  Speaker 3: like so, I mean there was years where there were
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  Speaker 3: like raccoons at my brother's wedding because they had to
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  Speaker 3: be bottle fed in between the ceremony and the and
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  Speaker 3: the you know, so that's so yeah, she's a kookie.
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  Speaker 2: Text How did she get licensed for that?
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  Speaker 3: They just I think they just need volunteers. At the
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  Speaker 3: Texas Wildlife Association, they were like, you seem a little nuts.
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  Speaker 3: Your children have recently left for college.
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  Speaker 2: Are you bored? And she was like, I am. Every
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  Speaker 2: empty nester should start raising wildlife. Become a mishanded.
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  Speaker 3: She stuck with it. Now she does kittens and puppies,
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  Speaker 3: she doesn't do wildlife.
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  Speaker 2: Was there did a line get cross? And She's like,
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  Speaker 2: I can't do this anymore?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know they were too radicalized. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what happened. I mean it was a lot of work
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  Speaker 3: and you have to keep your I guess you know,
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  Speaker 3: when you're raising a raccoon, the end goal is like
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  Speaker 3: because you like she feeds them with a bottle, and
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  Speaker 3: then she would like teach them how to like and
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  Speaker 3: stuff like that, like to get you cut grapes in
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  Speaker 3: half and throw them in a dog bowl and they
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  Speaker 3: learn how to like out of the water. Like she
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  Speaker 3: truly like rehab these raccoons. It's so nuts. And then
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  Speaker 3: she would like, you know, cage them up and drive
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  Speaker 3: them off and like open the cage and be like
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  Speaker 3: go be free, like white fang them. And she probably
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  Speaker 3: saw one too many like dead raccoon on the road
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  Speaker 3: and she's.
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  Speaker 2: Like, what the fuck am I what is this I
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  Speaker 2: contributing to?
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  Speaker 3: Exactly? So then she knows she does kittens and puppies
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  Speaker 3: and actually they get adopted by a human, not released
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  Speaker 3: back into the whole while.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sorry to keep asking you to just speak
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  Speaker 2: for your mother.
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  Speaker 3: Here, but I'm happy to she should be on the BIX.
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  Speaker 2: I know Allison's mom reach out. How long would you
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: keep a raccoon. Is it like six months or is
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  Speaker 2: it years?
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  Speaker 3: No, it's it's it's months.
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  Speaker 2: It's yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You just have to get them like big enough to
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  Speaker 3: where they can survive on their own, until.
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  Speaker 2: They become a danger in your own home, and then
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  Speaker 2: you're like, I have to get rid of them.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, they would be they were in the home, and
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  Speaker 3: then we had a pan out back and they'd be
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: out back for when they got older and bigger.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, this is Do you have photos of yourself with
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  Speaker 2: them or anything? Yes, I'm so jealous.
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  Speaker 3: When they're little bitty, you can I could help bottle
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  Speaker 3: feed them.
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  Speaker 2: Did you name those the raccoons?
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  Speaker 3: I think my mom named a couple and then stopped, like,
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  Speaker 3: this is I can't do.
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  Speaker 2: Probably get too connected to them or something.
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  Speaker 3: I think so. I think it was hard for her
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  Speaker 3: to like then release them.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And you said raccoons, possums and bats. Was there
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: another squirrels? Squirrels?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my god.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have them all at the same time or
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: was it like one species at a time?
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  Speaker 3: She mainly did raccoons. I only remember a couple squirrels,
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  Speaker 3: and she had possums for a while, But I think
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  Speaker 3: we just had more raccoons in our area than anywhere else.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome babies have finally kind of warmed me up to
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: the concept of apostle.
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  Speaker 3: They're so cute.
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  Speaker 2: They're adorable, They're so hideous.
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  Speaker 3: They really are.
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  Speaker 2: They become like they cross over and become cute. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're very sweet little creature.
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  Speaker 3: I know this is not a visual medium. I was
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: making a podcasts, I know, but if you're listening, I
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: was making a possum face an incredible follow it on
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: Instagram too, you see it.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you Elison put in the work I did.
• 11:28
  Speaker 3: I'm very talented actress and I do impressions of animals.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: Are you? Are you an animal owner yourself?
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: I have a cat, Oh, very spoiled beloved cat.
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  Speaker 2: What's his name is bud Oh? How old is he?
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  Speaker 3: He's like eleven or twelve. He was a rescue and
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  Speaker 3: so we're not totally sure. He is a prince. He
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  Speaker 3: has no teeth and he has one only one nostril.
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  Speaker 3: The other is closed up.
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  Speaker 2: How did that happen?
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  Speaker 3: He had this cryptococcal infection that sometimes stray cats getty
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: crypto crypto. I don't know, it's a fungal infection. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that stray cats and raccoons can and it like messes
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  Speaker 3: with their sinuses, and so he has all this scar
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  Speaker 3: tissue that's basically closed up one side of his sinuses.
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  Speaker 2: So and has he always had no teeth hat.
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  Speaker 3: Tith when I got him, but they were so rotten
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  Speaker 3: that I eventually took him in for a cleaning and
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: they were like, these need to pull. They were like,
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: we should pull all of these. Actually, they were like,
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: we're gonna see if we can save these two. And
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  Speaker 3: then they called me twenty minutes later and they're like,
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: we can't save it.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty pull them all.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, but he's so much happier with
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  Speaker 3: no teeth.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: How does a cat with no teeth eat?
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: You know, because cat food is so small, it's not
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: really a problem. He still eat kibble. He just kind
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: of there's no crunch. He just kind of follows it.
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  Speaker 2: You know. Wow, I had no idea that was even possible.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's pretty happy.
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  Speaker 2: And you've had how long have you had him?
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  Speaker 3: I've had him for like seven years now. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Was there a real rehabilitation when he came into your
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  Speaker 2: house or was it he.
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  Speaker 3: Was on anti fungal meds for like a year and
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  Speaker 3: a half to get rid of this crypto infection that
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  Speaker 3: he had and get him all the way better. And
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  Speaker 3: he was a foster fail, like my ex and I
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: were fostering him.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, a foster fail makes me think, oh he was
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: a problem at another.
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  Speaker 3: We failed where the I'm the foster. I'm sorry, I'm
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: going to be clear. I was a foster fail.
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  Speaker 2: He is a he's a foster success. I did it.
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  Speaker 2: It's an Italian grace exactly. Yeah, you don't even know
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  Speaker 2: his agent. He is an Italians. He could be fifty
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  Speaker 2: years old for.
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  Speaker 3: No idea, but I know he rules my household.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: Is this your first cat?
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: I grew up with cats and dogs, and then I
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: had my own cat as soon as I got my
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: first apartment and as soon as I could have a cat,
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: I was like, I should have a cat. So I
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: had my cat Annie for eighteen years, and then when
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: she passed, I got started fostering Bud, like four or
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: five months later. It's too long to be with a
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: pet and then suddenly not have a pet. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: this is fucking weird.
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  Speaker 2: It's weird, right, your house is so quiet.
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  Speaker 3: It's still quiet, and pets.
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  Speaker 2: We had a dog for ten years and then she
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: passed and it was like, I mean, it's so it's
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: such a nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so awful.
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  Speaker 2: But now we have a new puppy. We've had her
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  Speaker 2: since last July, and I should clarify her she's a
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: rescue because occasionally a listener pops up it's like I
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: can't believe, and you're like, you're like, got is different.
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  Speaker 3: I mean got can mean from a shelters.
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  Speaker 2: But she's now almost a year old. Yeah, and she's
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: seventy five pounds.
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  Speaker 3: She in that raptor stage where she's got those super
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: sharp teeth.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Oh she's she's like, the teeth aren't sharp anymore and
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: the attacks have slowed down. But it's almost more surprising
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  Speaker 2: now watching the news.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, oh it all mean, don't let her watch
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  Speaker 3: the news.
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  Speaker 2: It's bad. But she is becoming more a dog now,
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  Speaker 2: so she'll like lie at your feet and very sweet creature.
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  Speaker 2: But puppies are menaces. They are monster creatures.
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  Speaker 3: They're insane. Yeah, they're really they're like, I'm a friend
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  Speaker 3: of mine just got a puppy and he was like,
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: he's a one man wrecking crew.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're demoniced can't.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: He's like he was supposed to come to the movie Yester,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: and he was like, I can't come. I can't leave
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: the dog for more than twenty minutes.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't leave them alone, certainly, Yeah, unless they're
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: in a crate and.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: Then they're so screaming and pooping and yeah.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: So I think in the next few months she'll become
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: just an animal that doesn't feel like a danger to me.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: She only really attacks me, and my boyfriend says it's
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: because I dressed like a toy from pet Co and so,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: which is fair, especially like when I'm in pajamas or whatever,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: it just feels like very dog toy oriented. Yeah, and
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: so I don't I can't blame her. Yeah, and I'm
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: much essentially her size. It's the whole thing. I'm like,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: I'm asking to be a dog bite victim or something.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been funny how like pets have different roles
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: for you, you and like your partner. It's crazy, so strange.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: We're totally different things from Yeah, she listens to him
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: and just puts me in dangers. You're a peer. I
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: don't even know if I say a peer. I'm beneath
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: her no, I'm like local wildlife that she could tear
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: apart or something. It's really sad. I don't know how
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: I gain her respect. I think I'm too nice.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: That they do like need a strong hand.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it's to be a strong hand, I know,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: I know. I just want to be in love with her, yeah,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: and just say sweet things. Yeah, but I guess occasionally
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I need to be like I could send you away,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: have some threat.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: You know I am some somewhat in charge, right, you
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: should fear me a little bit.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Does your cat have different roles for you and your partner?
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: What are they?
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: I mean it's just like he wants to sleep on
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: his pillow differently, do you know what I mean? It's
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: like he's never sat on my lap that way ever. Oh,
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: this is sad. He like guards us differently, right, but
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: he loves us both. It's very strange.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Is he a social cat or is the one that
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: runs so social? Okay, that's nice.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Loves people, wants to be around people.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, when you go away, do you have somebody
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: to stay with him? Or do you send him away?
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: I have someone stay with him.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I think with a cat you kind of have to
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: I mean when I grew up, if we were gone
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: for three days, we would just leave extra food out
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: for my cat, right, And that's what I thought was
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: like normal. But Bud is so spoiled that someone just
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: comes in house, sits and just is with him all
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: the time, like he just does.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: He has his own but nice.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: It makes me feel so much better, you know, to
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: have somebody there and whatever.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I feel like we've come such a long way with
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the way we treat animals since I was a child.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Where Like when you had an animal as a kid,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: like through the nineties or whatever, it was like, well,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: that's an animal, and just give it what it needs
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: to survive essentially. And now it's like, you know, putting
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: it in all right, sending out with friends.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: People are having lesonless people having kids or having kids later,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: so our animals are even more important to us.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I simply have no plans for a child, so me
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: neither pouring all of my resources into.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: This lucky lucky cat, lucky dog.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you feel like you have the bandwidth for
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: another pet or you're going to just keep the cat.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: I think that Bud is now like an established gentleman
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: of the household, and would be like, what is this
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: if there was another pet, and so he'll be he'll
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: be an only child while he's.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Well, he's on this, I think taking out his territory.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that I have the space now,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: and I think I have the capacity for a couple
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: of pets at once. So maybe in my next iteration,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: many many, many, many, many many many.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Years from now, you'll get into possum's bats, right, exactly
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: when Bud goes to college. I have a lot of
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: raccoons in my backyard. It's terrible. They find water wherever
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: it is. Also, of squirrels were ripping up my plants.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Were they desperate for water?
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Oh god, that's sad.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, it was really a nightmare. It was a nightmare situation. Yeah,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: for all of us, I guess because these things also
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: find a leaky hose or something before you go to
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: the roots of a plant.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: I know that doesn't seem efficient.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, are your raccoon's trouble for you?
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: No, they haven't been Okay, Yeah again, this is like
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: a new house of only they're a year yet, right,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: give them some time. We'll see if we'll see you
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: next month.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like reader, You're right, just come in here covered
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: and scratches, and they're a problem for me. Now do
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: something about it. Oh well, I mean, speaking of doing
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: something about something, I feel like I should do something, Alison.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I was looking forward to having you here on the podcast.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I thought, Alison will come by, we'll have a nice chat,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: we'll move on with our days, like any.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Podcast, normal podcasts.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, podcast asked here is called? I said, no gifts,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: and I assume at some point somebody mentioned the title
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: to you. So I was a little surprised when you
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: peeled into the parking lot, slammed on your brakes, and
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: stepped out holding what's obviously a gift for me? Is
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: it a gift for me? Okay?
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Interesting, I'm a bit of a rebel, ask anyone. So
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I saw the title, I'm familiar with the show, and
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I said, fuck it, so well, should we open it
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: here on the podcast?
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Do it? It's in a gorgeous bag.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: It's stunning pink bag with the is this a leopard
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: or at cheetah?
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I think they're jaguars or something. The third option that Alison.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: They don't know, Wait, what is a jaguar? Actually are
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: jaguars a leopard is wait, oh, no, panther is black?
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Do all of these things have spots.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: They all have spots, but some of them are black,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: and their spots are so faint because they're like black
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: on they're like undercoats or something.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Right, Like jaguars have like spots with spots inside them,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: if that makes sense. So it's like leopards are a
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: little more faded spots, and jaguars have very detailed spots.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: All right, leopards kind of like a jaguar put through
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: the wash.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: And this is not a cheat.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: It doesn't look fast, extremely slow. This is a jaguar
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: and it's all over this bag. Okay, let's reach in.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Oh look at the amount of tissue.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: You know what that's I think that's almost all my
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: tissue papers. I wanted. I wanted it to look good,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: so disrespectful.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, issue, This is like a thick steak. Okay, reaching in,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: there's more. They haven't abused the tissue in a while, okay, okay. Oh,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: this is a really beautiful book, isn't it pretty. It's
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: called We Found a Hat by John Class. Yeah, and
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: there are two little tortoises on the front. And they
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: found a hat.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: They found a ten gallon hat. It's also there's a
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: sticker on there that says signed by the author, So
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: you're welcome, signed copy.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Let's see this pass, Let's see here. It's just subtle.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a scribble audiograph autograph too, so I'm
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: I'm familiar with the game.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: People need to get to just a you know, straight
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: writing their name out.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my name, preferably confist, hold it in your
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: just maybe a crayon, fat kind.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Who's the celebrity that's going to pick up that trend?
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: It's time? This is beautiful. It's from Skylight Books, the
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: local book store. Tell me why you brought this? So?
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I am a big fan of having children's books around
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: that are like funny and touching and like interesting. So
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: I have a copy of this. It's actually a trilogy.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: In the trilogy, oh, this is the end, they're looking
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: for a hat.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: The first one is, this is not my hat? Oh,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: And then the second one is.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: What is it called?
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I lost my hat? Where's my hat? I can't find
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: my hat? I don't remember, And then this one is
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: we found a hat. So they're all about hats.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Is the first one like a red mega hat.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: It is a red habit.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: It's not about interesting. It's a little is it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's like a little bowler hat.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Oh cute?
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: But you know, listen, they operate independently. You don't have
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: to have Red runs to the other. And this was
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: my This is my favorite because it's really about friendship.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: The first two about strictly hats.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: The first one is about fevery. He stole a hat.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: This fish stole a hat. Okay, a fish stole a
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: hat from a bigger fish, which was foolish. And he's
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: running away with the hat, swimming away with it right.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Right, and does he get what's coming to it?
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I think he gets eight. I think he gets eaten.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: It's like a capital punishment and it's.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: The animal Kingdom. Nobody's eaten or dies in this one.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: So that's why it's my favorite.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: So there are different animals every time. In the Hands, yeah.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: The second one is a bear who's.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Looking for his hat. Okay, and what sort of hat
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: does he end up with?
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: He has like a little like a took with like
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: a pom pom on the top.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I think took, Yeah, I don't know, a little beanie yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: t o ok.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: T oh, how do you spelled took t o q
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: u E.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Oh interesting, this is a new piece of vocabulary for
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the get up took hat. Yeah yeah, let me look
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: this up really quick. Took hat t o t o
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: q u E. I did it, Yes, I just did it.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: And it seems to be like, uh, it describes all
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: kinds of hats, really a kind of a beanie. But
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: then the Wikipedia thing is, well, I guess that's a beanie,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: but why is it on this painting. It's like a
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Renaissance painting.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: It's like a beanie, but there's obviously some shaping inside of.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: That, a little bit of shape.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got structure to it.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: It does look like you could have bought it at
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: a lid, because if.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: You have a like looser things on bottom, you need
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: structure up top right balance. That's your outfit. So he
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: knows what he's doing.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: A took. That's so interesting. It's wow, the amount of
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: words we have for hats.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Too many, too many.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: So the bear finds a cook.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: And he's lost his took, and he's going looking.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Does he ever find it?
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: He does find it. A rabbit took it. He eats
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: the rabbit.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: He eats a rabbit. Those are crazy brutal books. He's
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: a quartermack McCarthy. But they're so beautiful.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: They are kind of they aren't. They're like stark and beautiful.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: But in this book they find this hat but there's
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: only one hat.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, no someone die, No one dies.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: They're both like, they're like, how does it look on
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: his two tortose friends. It's like, how does it look
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: on me? And he's like, it looks really good. And
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: he's like, how's it look on me? And he's like,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: it looks really good. And they're like, but no one
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: can have the hat cause there's only one hat. So
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: they leave, but one of them is like, I'm gonna
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: go back for that Hell who thinks about going? But
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: he's dreaming about like the hat. But then in the
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: end and he realizes that he doesn't want to lose
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: his friend. It's more important to have his friend than
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: have the hat. And he goes back to sleep and
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: he dreams that they both have hats.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Oh that's really sweet. I feel like the author must
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: have gotten some feedback on the first two he might have.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: These books are they're so beautifully drawn and they're I mean,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I know, they're just gorgeous, and I do. I have
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: all three of them at home on my coffee table.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I love them. Some of the other illustrations and oh
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: my god, it really is so pretty.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: So how are you finding these? Do you just go brows?
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: I found these? I was in Portland on a trip
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: with my partner and we were in a bookstore and
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: there was like a display of like these John Glassen
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: books and I was like, oh, he must be like
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: the local the local guy.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: He's not.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: He's from Canada. They just really liked him, I guess
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: in Portland, so they I read. I read them in order.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: I'm a big reader and I'm pretty fast, so you know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: it didn't four hundred books did take me long to
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: read three children's books. And I just bought all of them.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I just thought they were so sweet and honey, oh
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: this is really lovely. Yeah, so there you go. You're welcome.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Are you glad I brought you?
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I am glad. This is really sweet. I have nieces
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: and nephews and I'm always like I feel like and
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: also friends having babies or whatever, and I'll be like,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get them of the best children's books,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: But then I feel like they're probably the most obvious choices,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: and they probably have multiple copies.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: It's hard.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: It's really as someone who's not involved in the world
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: of children at all, I'm like, well, I don't really
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: know what the trends are, no.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: And you don't know what the new thing is, and
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: you've got to assume they already have Where the Wild
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Things Are and good Night Moon and all that stuff
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: like that. The classics.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Do you know the Kissing Hand? Do you know this one?
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: This is a heartbreaking one. I think that's what it's called,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: the Kissing Hand. But yeah, yes, it's about a raccoon
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: and it's mom, I mean the whole I mean, it's
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: just heartbreaking. It'll share my mom in it, your mother
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: in character. She plays the role of the kissing hands.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Oh I don't know that.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's good to know. That's a great one to
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: give to new parents. Yeah, and it has raccoons and
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: it's a you know, I feel like it whenever I
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: look at newer children's books that are trying to be
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: funny or whatever, and I find that very annoying. Yeah,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I'm sure kids love them, but children have bad taste.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: I just think there's I can't I don't know. There's
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: some Bookiddlren's books that I'm like not into and somebody.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I just am.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I can't say why.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Right, It's weird when like a children's book, like as
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: an adult, you feel like you would have no feeling
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: on any of them.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it kind of spoke to me.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: This one very timeless.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do love it, and I'm sorry there's a
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: little rip.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: On the cover, but oh, throw it away.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: You know it's been it's been loved. Can't sell hands
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: at Skotline Books.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite children's book?
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Man, that's hard to say. I did love Where the
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Wild Things Are when I was a kid. I have
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: like fun memories of going on a bear hunt, like
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: with reading that to my sister when she was like.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Why have I heard of that?
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Going on a bear hunt? Can't go over it, can't
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: go under it. Oh, going on bear hunt's fun? They don't,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: they don't. No one dies in them.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, it's more about it's.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Just like the kids are. I don't know, I don't
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: know why they said, you know what, you're right?
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Oh my child?
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Oh no.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, have you ever considered writing a kid's book?
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I haven't.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's something that is within almost anyone's right, anybody.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: I was helping a friend of mine, like visualize what
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: to do with her closet reorganization, and I was like,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: what are those and she was like, oh, that's my
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: children's book.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: What And I was like what.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: She's like, you don't know I wrote a children's book.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: And I was like no, and she's like, those are
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: the rest of the copies left in the world. There's
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: like fifty of them on her shelf. I was like, wow,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: you just wrote a children's book and got it published.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: It feels like the bar is simultaneously very low and
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: very high, because it's like, you read ones like that
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: was almost nothing and there are three lessons kids can learn,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: so but then it's like, how do you get published?
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: How do you get published?
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Pick the obvious idea, then do some rhyming, and then
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: like yeah, and.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Then like do you become a famous children's book author?
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I wonder if it's harder now than it used to be.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure everybody's trying to get into that gay
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, make that big money.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: It's either that or become a real estate agent.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the one who left acting is like going to
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: get into children's books or.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Real estate or become a therapist, which no one in
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: the entertainment business should be allowed to then enter therapy.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: It happens too often. No, have you ever run into
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: a therapist who's like a former actor? Not that I know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: God bless. There are a lot of them around, and
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they're all great, but there's that initial like, oh,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: how am I supposed to trust you?
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Like an actor that's like recognizable from a sitcom you
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: watched as a child or something.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Tom Cruise, what happened?
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I guess he's literally like the last person who would
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: enter the mental health field, no, considering religion and everything.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Scientology, Yeah right.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think you go from scientology to becoming a therapist,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: but I encourage the journey.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Times are crazy. We don't know.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Have you ever been to that museum?
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Does the scientology museum?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: The Museum of Death?
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: No, what is it called called?
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Like it's like pharmaceutical, like.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Psychiatry the Museum of Death or something?
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, over in Hollywood, the actual Museum of Death
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: over in Hollywood.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Right, they're two different things.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, the Museum of Death I've been to. I've not
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: been to the Scientology Museum of that.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The Museum of Death is more about like death itself.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's like a macabre museum.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Right, And I feel like I'm putting myself on a
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: list here. The Scientology Museum is like why psychiatry kills
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: you and why psychiatry caused nine to eleven.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: I've been medicated for a lot of years, so I
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: don't know that I need.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: To go there. I've been through it and it's a
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: fascinating experience.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I'm good.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: If you want to go into a museum where you
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: will be the only person.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I have the museum for you, feel like I used
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: to let. My old place was right by the Scientology building,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: the Celebrity Center, and I was always like, I feel
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: like I'm on I feel like I'm being watched. If
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I like cause too long, or to read the sign,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: or I pick up a pamphlet, I'm like, they're watching me.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: They're I guarantee they're watching.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I love going around there though, and seeing different scientologists,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: like maintaining the building. Like I remember seeing a woman
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: who's probably in her mid sixties at the top of
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: a very high ladder holding a bucket barely like, no,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: get her down, from her down? Why is she doing
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: manual washing the windows?
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: She's working her way up the ladder engines.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: And a lot of smoking, really shocking amount of smoking. Huh.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I guess that's like kind of the thing.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: That's how wonderful for them that they don't have to
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: tell me about smoking like the rest of us.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: I feel like I've seen a lot of smokers over there.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I used to go to that place, Square one, the
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: brunch place, a lot rest in peace, and you would
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: see scientologists solve the time smoking and washing windows, just
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: doing I'm sure manual labor. They're not getting paid for.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: They're not. They are not. They have left their families
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: and friends and they are not being paid. It's really bad.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I've had a lot of experience. I've been into most
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: of the scientology buildings at this point. In the Celebrity Center.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Oh did you say celebrity center you were.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Near I'm near, yeah, Celebrity Center. What's the blue one?
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: The blue one, which is the worst shade of blue
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: in the world. That's the I don't remember h Q
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: or or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the one that's
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: more where you're seeing more people smoking and.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Was that feels like more dormitories over there. There's a
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: couple dorms over by the Celebrity Center that just look
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: like a part They just bought apartment buildings nearby they.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Painted the blue. Yeah. That one I think is a
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: former hospital or something.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: The whole thing is not a because it's right by
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: the children's hospital.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Oh I never fit.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Ye.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: I wonder if maybe.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: They former children's hospital.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: The adult hospital. It's not hospital for former children.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've been in that one. I've been into
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: the Celebrity Center. My big note for all of them
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: is let's get the ac going or open a window.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Oh no, they're stuffy.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's kind of the vibe they're
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: going for what, or if they're just trying to save
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: a few bucks. But every time I go in, when
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like, someone crack a window, that's a bummer. I
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: don't know if there's just a fear of someone escaping
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: or someone getting No one's breaking in, let's be honest,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't think.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: So what are you going to find? There's the secrets,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: the tomb after the secrets.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: They're valuable secret.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I do want to drive out to the desert compound
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: at some point. Oh, I feel like that would be dangerous.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Well, you got to tick them all off the box.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: If you're playing scientology bingo, you need to go to
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: all the right.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: And I think I'm almost there, and then oh, then
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: you have to go to Florida, which it's simply not happening.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Why would you I'm not going to.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Clear Water in this economy. Clearwater, Florida. A lot of
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: gators in Florida.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: That's the only place I assumed there were gators in
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: the United States. I was so wrong, so wrong. What
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: about crocodiles. Do we know where crocodileles are?
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Not from here?
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like we have.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Croxt crocs are like what's in like like uh Africa
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: and Australia they have crocodiles.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have famously the crocodile.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, crocodile Dundee.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Crocodile Dundee even more famous.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but we've got gators here. I don't. And then
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: there's like a third weird, isn't there? I remember listen,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I read zoo books.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: As a kid. Are we talking about the Komodo dragon?
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: No, although those are crazy. Have you seen the videos
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: of like the aquatic iguanas too, like swimming around?
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't like to hear that.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: They just look like Godzilla wild are living? I don't know,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: probably like maybe the Galapagos nowhere you're going, you're.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: That sounds so dangerous. Yeah, to be in like open
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: your eyes underwater and iguanas.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Coming toward to like swim, they're so fast.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Do they use their tails?
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Fully like Godzilla?
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Crazy, But you feel like there's a third thing. A crocodile,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: an alligator and something.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: I feel like there was something else, but maybe they're extinct.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: A caman a caman and has a sminnier nose.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: It's like kind of halfway between Like the width of
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: their nose is like halfway between an alligator and a
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: croc Yeah.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Oh interesting, what are the narrow Yeah?
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Alligators are square, right and crocodiles are more rounding.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more friendly. I feel like crocodile is less threatening.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: It's like a softer alligator or.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Something that's right, and then a Cayman which is smaller.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the things I'm learning hats now giant.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Different types of hats, different types of lizards. That's what
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: my podcast is about.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: What was Crocodile Dundee's deal? He just happened to be
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Australian in the United States? Is that the big gimmick
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I got? I mean the first superhero or something.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: He wasn't a superhero. He was just like an outback
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: like Australian dude. That was the gimmick, I think.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: But he was in the US.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: I think maybe he had to come here, and so
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: it was like a fish out of water story that.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Feels like such a nothing story.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: I actually don't know. I'm writing it right now, and
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: I bet I'm correct.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's basically it. I don't feel like
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: it's like a time traveler. No, he doesn't like wake
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: up here by accident.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: No, I'm sure he has to come, you know, for
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: some reason, to get to business, to give his kangaroo
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: back or some thing probably, And.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Then it's just were Australians really a rare thing in
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: the eighties, and then they were in the United States,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: they were.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exotic enough. It's a long flight. People were like, no, Narn,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: absolutely no Nar.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Have you been to Australia? I have What were you
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: doing there?
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I filmed a movie in New Zealand and then afterwards
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: went to Australia for a couple of weeks.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: And what was that experience? Like?
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: It was great? I really like Australia. Sydney is one
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: of my favorite cities. New Zealand is gorgeous. I'm sure, jeez,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: it's just really beautiful.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: It's this flight flight.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: So once you're there, you got to do all of
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: the places to live there.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: You got to live.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: They got to do a month out there at least.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine going for more than four weeks.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's far.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: It's like twenty hours or something. Mm hmm, I can
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: What do you do on a flight?
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: I watch movies, I sleep, I eat. I try not
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: to drink alcohol anymore because it's you know, like if
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: you drink on a plane, it's like twice as many
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: you have to double your drinks that you've had on
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: a plane.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: You know that.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so bad for you. It's so bad for you.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: That's why people get drunk on planes by accident. And
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: some people get drunk on purpose on planes, but there's
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: so many like unreally passengers is because they don't know.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: That or I should get into it.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: I know you don't drink, but listen, if you're going
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: to do it for the first.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Time, start off a plane, start as hard as.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Perfectly, you know, because you don't have to drink as much.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: But you get twice the effects on a plane.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: That's nice, And that's why you get more emotional watching
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: movies on them.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: I what is that thing of why you get more
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: emotional watching truly.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Your body is weak or something.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of beautiful.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: I don't have that thing where I cry on planes.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Some people have it.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I don't have it. I am just so miserable. I'm
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: just so unhand it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: You don't like a plane.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: My body is aching, I'm slightly nauseous. I can't sleep,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I can't focus on the nine different types of entertainment
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I've brought. Yeah, and I have. I'll always download like
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: fifty different podcasts, like I'll get to the airport and
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: remember that I'm googling best podcasts of the year non comedy,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: and then it's like some I think we're done with
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: all the interesting mysteries.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like all the been written and solved, right.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Like the fiftieth most interesting mystery, not even fiftieth listening
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: to and someone's trying to make compelling. So I'll get
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: through two episodes of that and then I'm screwed. I
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: have to read. Oh the worst thing?
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: What are you pour?
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: My god?
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Do you read?
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Do you read hard? Like book book to get on
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: a kid?
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I'm on a kindle, but I think I need to
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: get back into real.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: I couldn't do it anymore because I my brain was
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: like it was such a quick step from like a
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: kindle to a phone and then on the phone, I
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: was just like back on social media. I'll wait, So
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: you were brains.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: You were using your phone at your like as the book. Yeah,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, that would never work for me.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: I can't do it.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: My phone has to be locked away or something. Yes,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: But even a kindle, I feel like your brain. Our
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: brains have been trained to just no longer accept information
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: if they're looking at a screen. Right, Yeah, So I
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: like I don't even remember the titles of the books
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I'm reading.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that sucks.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: It's this whole weird thing.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to do a cop part actual copy, and.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: It feels like you're achieving something as you're getting through.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you feel smug when you go places holding
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: a book, right, I mean everyone has that, right, not
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: just me. That's so weird.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Are you reading anything right now?
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: I am rereading a book that I loved in my twenties.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I reread books a lot.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: I think that's good. I learned in college. I had
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: a professor that said, basically, there's no reading. There's only
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: good rereading because you read a book once just to
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: figure it out, and then you go back through when
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: you read the experience what the author was doing.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: That's fascinating. Yeah, I know people did never reread books.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: My mom's a voracious reader like so many like reads
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: and reads and reads and reads, but she doesn't re
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: read books. But I will reread a book, especially if
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like go through a period of time where I'm
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: not reading a lot and I need to like retrain myself. Right,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: I'll read something that I've already read because I know
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Just a smart way to get yourself.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I get back into the habit right, So,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: right now, I'm somewhere between rereading and reading something new
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: because it's been so long since I've read this book.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: It's called Boy's Life. It's by Robert Armagammon.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: It's a big fat recommend it fiction.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean I did when I was twenty three.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm going to find some very problematic things.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'sn't that the way that is, you're like, you
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: have to watch this movie, and then you're watching a
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: movie with your friend and.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: You're like, oh, you're terrible feeling introducing.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Leaving your body when you're like, I forgot they use.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: That word, oh the worst, the worst, And even like
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: if I'm like, you have to watch this movie, it's
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: so funny, and then I sit down with someone and
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: they're not laughing.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: I've it's it's so much pressure.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: It's an enormous so much I'll recommend a movie, but
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I will not chose someone a movie. I can't do it.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: That's watching them watch it is torture for every torture for.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: The expectations are through the roof for both of you. Yeah,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: and then that you feel like they're resenting you, and
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: now you're starting to hate the movie because it's creating
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: this issue.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: You have the same personality, like this is all about
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: me and you hate it. My ego is huge, but
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: also my self esteem is low.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, oh no, oh yeah, that's tough. Well,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: is there anything left to say about the gorgeous book?
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: I love? Just the is that like a dusty rose
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: color dembre color? Right?
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: It's really like I said, I have these on my
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: coffee table and this one is on the on the
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: top because I think it's the prettiest.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: This is also satisfying to have on coffee table because
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: you know, coffee table books are so massive you can't
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: get through. Yeah, visitor, can you can?
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Just you flip through that. Sometimes I will be like, hey,
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: we are waiting read.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: That book's office.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: This is I'm getting ready for to go out. I
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: make my friends and my dates like wait upstairs, hop
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: yourself to a beer, I say, and then I ascend.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I need to make people wait more often.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: It's great, great power. But you need books, short books.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: I'm constantly on time. No, that's the old me.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: That's the old Yeah.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Good, well, I feel like we should play a game. Okay,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: We're going to play a game. Called gift or a curse.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: But I need a number between one and ten from you.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Seven.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, I have to do some light calculating to get
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: our game pieces. So right now, while a song that
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: we don't have the rights to.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: We found a hat by John Classen.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: No, you can recommend, promote, do whatever you want.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, I will recommend and promote. Well, let's see Saint
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Dennis Medical. My show on NBC is still airing. We're
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: almost done with this season, but we've got a little
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: bit left. It's on Mondays at eight pm on NBC
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: and the next day on Peacock Saint Dennis Medical. Everyone's
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: favorite medical sitcom.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: That's The Pit.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Thanks guys, Sorry, that's a lament, fair hilarious. I can't
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: watch the talk about Sam Raimid.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: I can't be. I can't watch. Like a miserable hospital
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: show is tough for me to like realistic. I'm just saying.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: I will say. What I like about The Pit is
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: that it is pretty neutral, like they're just like you
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like there are so many hospital
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: shows where they really are like.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Pure like shock.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Value, right, But on the Pit, they're like, man, something's
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: wrong with this guy's eye? We're gonna have to lance it.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: And then they're like, we're gonna lance it now, we're
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: gonna show you. And you're like, no way, they're gonna show.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: They do.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: They're gonna show you. You know it's coming, they tell
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: you it's coming. It's no big deal. They do this
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: every day, Bridgard.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I can't deal with it. It's too much fair. No,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I need a Saint Dennis where everyone where we're not
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: saying too much.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: More, too much gore mostly.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not as much tragedy. It's a whatever. But everybody
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: go watch Saint Dennis Medical and do what you want
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: with the pit. Look, God bless everyone on the pit.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: And I love a return to an episodic television.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Yes it is very old school.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: We love it. But I can't be in a hospital
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: like that. I'm gonna end up in one at some point.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: I'll come to our hospital, Dennis.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: All right, this is how we play Gift or a Curse.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I'm going to name three things. You'll tell me if
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: they're a gift or a curse, and why. Then I'll
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: tell if you're right or wrong. Because there are correct answers.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: You could walk away a winner or a loser, be careful,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: all right. These are all from our Patreon listeners today.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: This first one, this listener told me how to pronounce
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: their name. It's Laura. Oh, it's la u r a.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: But with the world r some sort of Scandinavian situation,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I think, which is interesting. But gift or a curse
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: being invited to a dinner party in a group text
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: and you ask what can we bring? And the host
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: says nothing and you go up empty handed, but everyone
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: else there has brought something gift?
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Why because I actually for someone on and I said
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: no gifts podcast. I am not a gift giver. I
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: really am not. Like, if I see something that's like
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: perfect for someone, then I will get it, but I
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: don't really I don't give gifts by default. And if
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: you tell me to bring nothing, I'm going to take
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: you at your word, and I'm going to assume you
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: told everyone else the same thing and they did not obey.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: This is where the conceit of this podcast doesn't match
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: up with my actual personality, because if you said no gifts,
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I would absolutely obey you. Likewise, I'd be like great,
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: coming empty handed.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: It's an absolute right. I mean we are the same person. Yeah,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: you've told me. Yeah, I'm doing enough by just showing up.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're welcome, and I really mean it. Do I
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: need to bring anything, I'll stop, I'll get one over. Yes,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: But it's a it's a contract. You have to trust
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: they're going to tell you if you.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Should bring the absolutely, and when you say, I'm like,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: thank god.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Sometimes when you bring something like I don't know, like
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: what if they have their wine picked out, what if
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: they have a whole plan for the meal, what if
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: they don't want your biscuits on the side, like whatever,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: you know. I do think we should trust people. I
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: should trust them when they say no, thank you.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Everyone should be honest with their Felix's be a good.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Communicator and be a good communicator the end.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Unlike the rest of these people pleasers that showed up
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: with things, they're also desperate to be the wind.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: I would not feel bad, and I would I would
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: feel smug. That's how I would.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm really I'm especially bad with wine. If I
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: show up with wine, I know it's not going to
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: be anyone's favorite, and then they're going to just be like, oh, thanks,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: and then it's.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: It goes into the cabinet for them to take somewhere.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Else, somewhere else exactly, and it was probably brought to
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: my house by someone else. Yeah, there's probably one bottle
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: of wine that's probably hundreds of years old. It's just
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: been passed around from party to part probably and it's
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: probably very good right now. It's good.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Then, if I'm going somewhere where I don't know exactly,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: I will bring a bottle of wine. Oh, like if
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: somebody there's no if I don't know the person to
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: be like, you know, like if I was going to
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: like a party with a friend or something, or I
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: would I would be like, should we bring a bottle?
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: One?
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll bring something.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: I just I want to do what is correct. I'm
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: just going to assume that what is correct is what
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: you've told me to do. If you've told me not
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: to bring anything, I'm gonna believe you. And if there's
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: no rule, i'll be sometimes I'll default to bring exactly exactly.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Well, you got one right, so far, very good. Second,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: this is from a listener named Ruth Gift or a Curse,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: calling a lunch event a luncheon. Gift.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's elevate things right, luncheon. Yeah, I mean it does.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think it doesn't. It doesn't hurt anything. To
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: call a lunch event a luncheon makes me feel like
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: maybe we should be wearing like little white gloves. But again,
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: put it on the invite up. That's true.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Would wear gloves tell me.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: What's expected of me?
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: If an invite said wear gloves, are probably not going
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: to share what's happening. Should be there shadow what are
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: we going to be doing?
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: But I feel like it doesn't. The changing of a
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: lunch event to the calling it a luncheon does not
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: inherently to me signal that it's like extra fancy or anything.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: I just think it's like a fun different name. Right, Yeah,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: I'm into it.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: It's correct, it's a gift. It's a gift.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: I love a lunch killing it.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting invited to do enough lunch now.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: We should have more luncheon. Absolutely, we should just call
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: lunch luncheon luncheon. Yes, you take your luncheon break, yeah, exactly.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: I feel like luncheon to me is like it's really
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: laying out. This is going to be more than forty
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: five minutes to an hour, This will be two to
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: three hours. Yeah, it's going to be slightly classy or
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: maybe there will be like a jar of lemonade or something.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: I hope, So I feel like, why not call it
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: a lunch?
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I love this.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: It's a way better word.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: It's delightful, is what it is.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Lunch is for slobs.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, and his ladies. Get your white gloves on.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I'll be there. Okay, you've gone to rights so far.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: This is pretty impressive. And finally, this is from a
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: listener named Ryan. Gift or a curse every streaming service
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: having a documentary about the same subject.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, I know it's a curse, but I love it.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: I know it's a curse, but I treat it like
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: a gift. Well, okay, if it's a subject I'm interested in.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: If it's something I'm not interested, I just won't watch either.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: But I watched the Firefest documentary. I watch both of
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: them in a day. I wanted to know. I mean,
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by like, you got that guy? Why did you?
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Just like Hulu Moore, did you pay him?
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: More?
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Like, how did you get that guy? On this one
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: and not on the other one? I love seeing like
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: what holes they've left in the story. I don't know.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: I think it really pulls back the curtain. I'm like,
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: you know, documentaries are not really altruistic. They're also just films. Yeah,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: someone's career, someone's career, you know, and so I don't know.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: I really like the comparing contrast of it.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: I think it's cool. Correct you want you?
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: I'm so happy.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Look, it's a huge pain and it's very much like
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: collecting baseball cards at this point, yes, but I love it.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: You're getting every possible angle or possible angle. They are
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: juicing these things, and so a lot of documentaries are
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: bad at this point. So if you saw the bad one,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: you just hop over to another streaming service you might
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: get a better version of it.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: What really helps is like if someone else has watched
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: it first and they can tell you which one.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: To watch first. Oh, yeah, of course, and then you
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: can if you like it, you can go into the other.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, They're like, watch this one first, and then it's
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: just a companion piece or whatever. And sometimes I mean
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: it does really does make you see like how produced.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like getting the people to act.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: There is one of the nexium nexium, which is still.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Can we just be clear that's also a medicine Is
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: that true. Is there a medicine called nexium?
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Uh, they probably spell it differently. Yeah, that's it is
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: it's yeah, there is what's it for? I think it
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: treats Harper. I was going to say it's yeah, something.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Which came first, which did.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: Well the num is it nixium? Is that how they
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: say it?
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: I think so too. I saw anyway, I saw one
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: of the after like the big HBO one. There was
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: like another one, and I was like, this is deeply weird.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: It was just weird, like the way she was seeing
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: she was reading off of q CAR. It wasn't like contemporary,
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: like extamboraneous speaking at least, And I was like, this
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: is so bizarre interesting, And so I was like, well,
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: this is not I feel like this is not a
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: trustworthy source. Like, whatever is.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Happening here, someone has an agenda.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Someone is Yeah, someone has an agenda. Didn't feel like
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: a documentary.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Was trying to get some drama going.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fascinating, but it was interesting. Nonetheless, it
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: was interesting to see the difference.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love these things. I have I still have
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: a ruby Frankie one left. Watch any of these? Yeah,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: I've heard the new one's really good.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: I have not watched that one.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Have you seen the Hulu one? Yes, I mean it's
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: one of the most crazy things I've ever seen, sane
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: every ten seconds, it's more wild sane. Yeah.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: I have not watched the new one. Sorry, microphone, I
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: have not watched the new one. I just started the
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: Andrea Yates one.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: What Happened? Oh, that's that's so much.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: That's too dark for you.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm going to watch it.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: It's very dark because that was I mean, yeah, very
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: very dark story. That's the woman who killed all of
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: her children because she was having postpartum psychosis.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Right, And it was with the van.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Uh no, in the in the bathtub?
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Oh was the one with the van? That was didn't
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: somebody drive a van into a lake or something?
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: In Smith drove her sedan into But there was a
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: people's family on vacation. You're right that there was a
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: van that like, I don't know, listen.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, then there was there something wrong with Aunt Diana?
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Is something wrong with Aunt Diane? That is such a
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: good story too. You're like, what is happened? Yeah, what happened?
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: What happened? We know something's wrong.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: I have to believe that when we die true crime fans,
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: we find out who killed Jomany, we find out what
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: was going on with Antianne. We just like were flooded
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: with information and we're like, it all makes so much sense.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: I just want to know.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: I just want to I just want an answer.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: I just want an answer.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Just bizarre human behavior, unexplainable mysteries. I mean, the Ruby
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Frankie one. I feel like that it's pretty clear.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: What's her name, It's it's obvious what's going on here.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: There's nothing unexplained there. But some of these stories are
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: I mean they really are, like, what what's going on?
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: What happened with the brain?
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: What happened?
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe this other documentary will have something to say
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: about it. I hope Did you know that that compound
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: was on Zillow? No? No, I mean it's in a
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: beautiful neighborhood. Yeah, one of the most beautiful neighborhoods in America.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Do they have to disclose that, I guess, yeah.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Like beautifully taken photos of a dungeon. Uh, it's maybe
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: people want a sex room. Oh, you probably don't have
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: to disclose, right, I wouldn't think so. Imagine sitting in
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: your beautiful mansion in southern Utah. Watching a documentary and
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, wait, this house looks familiar. Being on
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: a tick, that's my dungeon, that's our.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Sex room, that's our red room.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: A terrible Yeah, I don't know what. I feel like.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: We've talked about death disclosure with houses on this podcast before,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: and I think it's all like, it's not you don't
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: have to disclose if someone died in a house.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: I think you do.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: You don't only in some states, I think, oh really yeah,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: in other states you can just simply sell the haunted
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: house and move on.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: I think you have to in California, I think you
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: have to.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Think that's right. Yeah, I feel like there are a
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: couple where I think you should.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: I guess I don't know that.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know that it I think that's added value.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: What was they watching where someone was like, I can't
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: buy a house that's older than you know, oh that's small,
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: more than seventy five years old or something is there
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: like it's going to be haunted as shit.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: My house I think is over one hundred years old.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: Is it hunted? Oh yeah, yeah, no you don't think so.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: I haven't noticed the saying it's a rip I got
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: ripped off. Why buy a house?
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: That's that old point. Well maybe you just haven't done
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: the right thing to make them angry yet.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Okay, I'm start experimenting. Yeah, I just need
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: to unfinish some of their business or something, remind them
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: we're happy. Yeah, well you got I mean you won
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: the game. That's incredible, God bless all of us. There
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: are very few winners on this podcast.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Yes we're like minded. Yes, I think good for you,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: best friends.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: And now Ellis has one gift a curse they're going
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: to do for us, and we both have to speak
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: to it. And then I guess Ellis has the correct answer.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Gift a curse. We Sports, we spawn.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Do you remember we Sports?
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I do?
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Do you want to do it?
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I will do it.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: I think they might be a curse, you guys. And
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: this is said with the like Brecdian gift of remove
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: with time. Because I had a wi and I played
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: the Wei Sports, and I had a we fit, oh
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: of course, which is the we fit is is and
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: was a terrible tool, terrible.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: I got kind of the sequel to that called ring
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Fit Adventure. What is that saved me during the pandemic.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Really it's like a ring you squeeze and do all
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: sorts of stuff. It was incredible.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, home workouts have come a long way
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: since since we Sports was a thing. I mean, and
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: maybe there's still a thing I don't still have.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: And we Fitness. It was like a board you stood
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: on or something.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: It was like a board that you stood on and
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: it would weigh you, but it would also like test
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: your balance and stuff.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: I just remember like my roommate and I at the
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: time in Chicago both had accounts and I was on
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: it one day and it was like, hey, Alison, it's
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: been a while since Danielle's done this. Maybe you should
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: talk to Maybe you should talk to her.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: And I was like, what the fuck's start drama in
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: the house.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: It started starting.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: I had like her little icon was like looking sad,
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: and I was like, what is happening confront your roommates
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: starting your roommate?
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: I was like, what is going on?
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: So listen, I think, listen. We Sports is catching some
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: strays from me because I like we Fit was maybe
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: of the devil, but that's how I feel. That's how
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: I feel.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: I had no idea. That's such a bad idea.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: It's so fucked up.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: They probably ruined families. Yeah, that probably led to a
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: lot of divorce. Yeah, and maybe some of those divorces
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: needed to have they have, you know, and it was
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: just the final.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Strong good work, Donna, Good for you, Good for you, Donna.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you said curse, I said curse. I think gifts.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: I love the wee sports. I love the bowling, the golf,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: the tennis. I think tennis. People were throwing their remotes
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: at their tvlevisions. It was getting seniors up at the
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: senior home. We were all playing it for like three
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: months and then we're longer thinking about it ever again. Yeah,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: of course, it's all kind of always. Whenever I hear
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: the word we it goes back to that woman who
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: drank off the water to win one and died, which
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: was a tough situation. Oh my god, I remember this. Yeah,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: radio station was making people drink.
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  Speaker 3: She had like she got like water toxicity or some
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: whatever they call it. I do remember this.
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  Speaker 2: I think we've come of little ways as a society.
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  Speaker 3: Was that she had to hold she had always called
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: hold your wi for we right, so she had to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: drink a bunch of water and not pee.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Avoid a biological function to win a piece of electronics. Wow,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: so that comes out.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: The Wei was a complicated device. We all have complicated
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: histories with the Wii. But ultimately I thought it was
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun and we were doing the bowling
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: that there was.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: A lot of bowling. I will say it was nice
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: to have an event to do when everyone was together.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the kind of guitar hero, I loved guitar. I
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: just in the last couple of years bought a new guitar. Hero.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Did you really had the time of my life? And
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: now it's back in my closet. But I had the
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: time in my life. Yeah, the song selection was bad
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: this time.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: I really like just Dance too.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: I never did just dance.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: I thought was really fun.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Did you actually have to know the moves? No, that
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: you follow along with someone but didn't know you were
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: doing the moves?
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  Speaker 3: If you held the we that you would hold the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: weeh and so then I could follow your hands ostensibly,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: Oh and be like wrong? Correct?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like it made you a better dancer? Yeah,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: you're the dancer you are today.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: I'm a professional. It made me the woman and the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: dancer I am today.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well I said gift, she said curse.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, they're a gift.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Come on, I mean, think about this is correct?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: Finally, did you on November nineteenth, two thousand and six,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: the playing field was leveled? You didn't have to be
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: good at sports because it wasn't really sports. Everybody could
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: come together pretend to play bowling. And you were saying Alison,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: like you're you're the flies off of your wrist hits
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: Graham on the face. I mean like it really did
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: create some excitement and bring us all together as friends
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: and families.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yes, we barely knew her.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah wow, well I won. Good for me, good for you.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: All Right, we should answer a listener question people are
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: writing into I said, no gifts at gmail dot com.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Will you help me answer a question? Yes, okay, let
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: me open the correct document here. Oh this is rude,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: says Hybridge and potentially useful guest. How dare you you
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: can answer this however you want.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna answer it with fury.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Screamed, he's gonna ruin the audio. Okay, says I'm trying
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: to find a birthday present for my partner whose birthday
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: is in late January. Well, I guess next January. He's
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: a difficult person to shop for because he just buys
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: himself everything he wants. For example, he bought a once
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: bought a soda stream, and then bought a new one
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: only weeks after, in a different color to better match
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: his kitchen. The first one still works perfectly fine. I
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: feel like I spend all year molling over gifts to
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: give him, just to have Christmas and his birthday roll
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: around all at once. It's a nightmare. This person's life
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: is hell. A little about him. His hobbies are embroidery, camping, djying, yoga, skateboarding,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: true crime, cooking, and making frozen margaritas. And yes, he
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: has a frozen marg machine. Mark mark machine. He has
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: a frozen mark machine. Now I'm madam, I'm gonna start screaming.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: The man owns everything. The best idea I have so
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: far is just something a universally crowd pleasing, like comfy pajamas,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: but it just doesn't feel personal enough. As a benchmark.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: For Christmas, I got him a pair of vintage Raptors
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: basketball shorts. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Cheers Carolyn. Okay, Carolyn,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: so the boyfriend has bought everything.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hard when you have someone who can and.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Does buy themselves, right, they want another.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Adult, another adult, specially buying presents for your parents. I'm
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: always like, I don't know they've got what they want
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: to eat.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: I gave up a long time.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really unless I get unless I'm.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Like, oh right, Dad would love this.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yes, I mean I I think it's interesting.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Like everything that Carolyn Caroline listed is like a physical thing,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: but there's also you know, coupon, like you can buy
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: them a massage, you can get them you know, membership
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: at a woodworking shop where they can go in and
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: like learn how to build things or whatever.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: Play a psychological game.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, yes, okay, we're listen, we're spitballing, We're we're riffing here.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: There's no bad ideas, no bad idea. I mean, I
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: guess when I get into a situation situation like that,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: I try to think, like, what's something that this person
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: wouldn't buy it for themselves, And a lot of times
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, you have to take a pause and
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: go do this or I'm giving you, you know, airline miles,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: go visit your best friend in Boston, whatever, you know
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: what I mean.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: That's okay again, no bad ideas, there's a good keep Okay,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: let's keep going here. Surgery sometimes yeah, yeah, but it's
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: hard to because you don't like you can't be like, I'm.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: Going to get you some botox, because like do a
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: need both you well you.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Get you get them to that by you know, kind
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: of lightly insulting them through the year, start now for
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: next chane and there's self confidence to a place where
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: they're going to be so thrilled for this new search.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: God, I do need a procedure.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's Carolyn Is saying he's bought himself too
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: so to streams. He obviously loves that device. Why not
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: a third matches, bathroom matches, car people office, Yeah, stream
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: in the car? Can you imagine? Is this a thing
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: that feels like one something you could have in the trunk?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: What's your business idea?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: My god?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: Trunk stream, trunk stream, I love it.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: God, the amount of money I should be making on
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: off my ideas. I could leave this podcast forever.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: Sneak it into the contracts. It's they're legally binding.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. It's going to take all these ideas
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: and go to shark tank and I'm going to be
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: continuing to struggle. And I'm struggling here. No one stealed
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: trunk stream.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a stream. I don't own a soda stream.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: I don't either.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: I've seen them the other day because I got some
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: topo chicos and like these beautiful glass bottles and I
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: was like, wait, am I the villain? Should I'm not?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: Boy?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: I love it so more waste And I was like, oh,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: is this why people own soda streams?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: So they are more waste? Are they?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: Because I don't genuinely don't know. I mean, there's like
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: a pod in them or look so.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: To stream reach out. But what I'm thinking is this
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: is something different, and yeah, I'll wear the T shirts,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: I'll drive the car. You can wrap my car. I
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: feel like there a lot of these are being given
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: as gifts at like weddings, to people who don't want them.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Then it's a piece of plastic. Yeah, And then I'm imagining, however,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: it's sold as probably in another piece of plastic.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: People swear by them, but I don't. I mean I
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Who swears by a soda.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: Stream people from two thy seventeen.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: I mean I might. Maybe I should try we should
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: try it. I think I do prefer like a soda
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: out of a fountain to a can. So I wonder
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: if this would be more of bad experience.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, more bubbles, more bubbles, extra bubbles.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: More bubbles. Yeah. But I also love a topachico. I
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: love the bottle. They've killed it with that bottle.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: They've killed it with that bottle. It reminds me of Texas.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: I love them. I was told by my boyfriend yesterday
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: that it is and this could may or may not
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: be true, elice if you want to fact check this.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: He told me it's the water with the most I
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: think forever chemicals in it.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: Ooh, that's what they're called, which sounds.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Actually very romantic to me. Forever chemicals.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: It's very kay, jewelry, forever chemicals. This Christmas love them
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: enough to give them forever chemicals.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: That may or may not be true. I should say
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: that for legal reasons. Everyone do your own well, don't
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: do now. I don't want to say do your own research,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: because that now it's in the wind.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: Ask your doctor, you need to learn hypnosis for the show,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: so you can just sa people forget the thing that
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: you just accidentally.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: That's that's a wild yeah, that could lead to me
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: having more power. Why, Well, we answered the question perfectly, Carolyn,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Never write back in I've got my book. I'm so thrilled.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: I've got to the end of a trilogy. So I
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: have to go back in order to figure out why
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: I can build your collection, Why this rich world is
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: as it is? You know this is the what's the
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: final one? And Lord of the Rings? The Return of
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: the King.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: This is my return, the Return of the King. You're
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: working back.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: I've had such a lovely time with you.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: Me to thank you for having me.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Thank you, and listener, the podcast is it over? We're
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: going to go for another hour. No, I'm kidding. What
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: if that happened. I'm kidding. No, but someday I'm gonna
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: do that and the guest is going.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: To die quietly sneak out. You hear me fumbling for
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: the door.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: No, listen to the podcast is over. I'm sorry to
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: break it to you, and I'm sorry that I surprised
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: you with that little thinking of we're gonna go for
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: another hour. That's your fault for believing anything. I say,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: move on with your day, I love you, goodbye, I said,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: is Ellis Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Ben Holliday. The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: and we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: no Gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: to see the gifts? Gay?
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: Did you hear thought? I made myself perfectly clear. When
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: you're I guess to my home, you gotta come to
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: me empty. And I said, no, guess, you're a presences
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: presents enough I already had too much stuff, So how
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: do you dare to surbey me