Latest / Beyond Labels Premium / BONUS: Is Geoengineering Actually Real? feat. Peter Kirby (Chemtrails, Cloud Seeding, and MORE)

Transcript

BONUS: Is Geoengineering Actually Real? feat. Peter Kirby (Chemtrails, Cloud Seeding, and MORE) · Beyond Labels Premium

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: Hey everybody, it's Dr.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_02: Cena McKella.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_02: I am here with a very special guest with Peter Kirby.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_02: You know, for many people, maybe even some in our audience, the issue of geoengineering recently moved out of the shadows and into the hall and into the halls of government.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_02: We've seen historic moves in states like Tennessee, Louisiana, and Florida, where lawmakers have passed legislation to actually ban the intentional release of chemicals into our atmosphere.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_02: These states have given this issue immense credibility by acknowledging that our skies are actually being used as unregulated unregulated laboratories.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_02: But for me, the most startling part of this issue of geoengineering is that this is not a new phenomenon.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_02: While it's just reaching our state legislatures now, this has been a documented reality for at least 70 years.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_02: For example, did you know that in 1958 a bill was signed into law, it was public law 85-510 that actually required our government to initiate and support weather modification.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_02: This is not a conspiracy, it's a legislative reality.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_02: And even President Lyndon Johnson once famously said, he who controls the weather will control the world.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_02: So today, I've asked Peter to come on the show to help us peel back these labels.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to move past the stigma to look at the declassified history, patents, the hard data behind what Peter Kirby calls the new Manhattan Project.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_02: And we're also going to talk a little bit about the biological price tag along with solutions of what how you can detox your own body and protect your family.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_02: Peter, welcome to the program.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_02: I'm thrilled to have you here.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's a pleasure to be here.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_02: Great.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_02: So let's start out by explaining to our audience how did you even get involved in this topic?
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_02: This highly controversial and what's thought to be even a conspiracy theory.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, until even recently, when states have come out, acknowledge this is happening.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_02: How did you get involved with this?
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it was back in uh 2009.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: I was alerted to the fact that the official story of 9-11 is like a block of Swiss cheese had so many holes in it.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, without opening up that other can of worms, I'll just leave that right there and leave the audience to investigate that for their own.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Tucker Carlson did a series of videos on it recently, which I think were the best yet.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: So, uh, and those are available on his website.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was four or five of those.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: So if you want to look into that, I encourage you to do so.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, you know, it left me wondering.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_00: This was back in 2009 when I figured this out.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, it left me wondering, okay, they got that one over on me.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: What else have they been lying about?
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean they, I mean the mainstream media.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so I started looking into all these different stories in the mainstream media.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the uh alternative media.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: At the time, it didn't even have a name.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: This was 2009.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: We were still wondering what to call ourselves.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I hadn't even really, you know, considered myself a part of it, whatever it was back in 2009.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_00: But eventually, you know, we've come we've come to call ourselves the new media.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_00: And anyway, so I'm looking around at the new media and finding all these other stories and uh finding all these other conspiracies.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, the chemtrails thing was just one of them, and it was one that I discounted at first because it didn't make any sense to me.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: You know, why would why would the establishment just spray things out of planes?
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_00: That just wrecks everything, especially here in America.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: You know, America leads the way, we produce all the best stuff, and so you know, it'd be like killing the the golden goose.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, you know, it it planted a seed.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so uh I said to myself, okay, and it was it was a repulsive idea to me, you know, at the time.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_00: I thought it was easy to write that off.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you don't want to believe that that we're being sprayed with with substances, you know, probably toxic substances.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, it's it planted a seed, and I started started looking for these things.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_00: I thought to myself, okay, they say that you know, planes are spraying us with stuff.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna start looking and seeing if I see planes spraying us with stuff.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_00: It was a little difficult because I was living in San Francisco at the time, you know, it's on the coast, so it gets a lot of clouds and fog and stuff.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, most of the time you look up and it's just you know this gray, gray mess.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, you know, eventually I did have enough of a clear day.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, I saw chemtrails.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_00: I saw first I saw little little bits of things, little lines in the sky.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_00: I thought, oh, you know, maybe that's one of them, maybe that's one of them a couple times.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: But then I saw the big one, you know, stretching over a large portion of the sky.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I knew straight off that this was uh particulate matter and this was bad because uh I know what an actual contrail is supposed to look like.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's on a cold day.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: You look at a plane flying high in the sky, it's got a tiny little tail on it that disappears very quickly.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: I remember consciously recognizing recognizing these things when I was a kid, you know, and pointing them out to my friend, you know, we'd have a little laugh about it, whatever.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, a plane's got a little tail on it, you know.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, but you know, I so I knew I knew that that this was something bad.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_00: And it was like getting punched in the gut, and I just found it so reprehensible and so unacceptable that uh there was nothing to do but fight it.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_00: You know, all these other things that I was looking at were, you know, stuff that were conspiracies, but you didn't necessarily have to be involved in them, you know what I mean?
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: Or stuff that happened a long time ago, or uh, you know, things that didn't have like a super direct relevance to my life.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, when when you realize that they're doing something that you can't get away from, and they're just going ahead and doing it like uh, you know, it's all good and stuff, uh, you know, this this is the kind of behavior that uh is really quite frightening because it's the type of type of behavior that people engage in when they've got nothing to lose.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I continue to believe that the establishment is acting like they have nothing to lose because they're just you know with all this gaslighting that they're doing.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, so I saw the chemtrail.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: It was it was bad news.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: And so so uh one of the first things I thought was uh, you know, I'm here in California and uh the government, the state government does absolutely everything, right?
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_00: We're in one of those, one of those states.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, so I I I looked to uh the I I figured that they're they're probably monitoring the air for whatever's in the air, right?
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: If there's bad stuff in the air, the the state is probably monitoring it.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_00: Not all states do, California does, and I found the California Air Resources Board, otherwise known as the Carb, and part of what they were doing was monitoring the air for ambient toxins, toxic materials, and they classified aluminum and barium as toxics that should not be in the air at all.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: And yet you could produce graphs on their website that showed elevated and rising levels of both barium and aluminum on a statewide basis, ambient air barium and aluminum.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: And uh so I re- I I generated those charts and I took screenshots and I wrote an article about it, and this was how I made my first bone in the new media.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: It was actually something I posted on just like a form site or something, and then somebody, somebody else picked it up.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, the um editor at Activist Post, Michael Edwards at the time, picked it up and just published it, didn't even tell me about it, but that's that's how I became a staff writer at Activist Post.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not the staff writer there anymore because uh the website was sold about over a little over a year ago.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, you know, I just uh I found it unacceptable.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: I started fighting it and uh I've been fighting it ever since.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, the evidence for all this is just lying all over the place.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: It was just waiting for somebody to come along and collect it all and put it into a form that makes sense and contextualize everything.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_00: One of the after I initially had that success with the carb article, I did like a two-year investigation of weather modification because I was figuring that it's weather modification.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_00: It was kind of a little bit of a gamble, you know, because we we had no idea what it was.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: It was just there was a plane and it's spraying stuff.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, but the the only the only there's there's one other thing that keeps on slipping my mind, but there's only one well-known reason why planes uh spray stuff at altitude, and that is for weather modification.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_00: There, there's something else.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: I I thought of it recently.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: Now I can't seem to recall what it was, but you know, the reason that most people know that planes might be spraying stuff high in the sky would be weather modification.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know, silver iodide, the conventional weather modification industry.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: So I did a big deep dive into that.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: Took me about two years.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I it was uh, you know, upwards of a hundred interlibrary loans, thousands of photocopies.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_00: I read hundreds of books, uh, spent over ten thousand dollars, and uh well, then then the whole scope of everything I took, I spent like ten thousand dollars.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's the whole scope of everything.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_00: My initial investigation into weather modification took two years, but I I found like the most pertinent government documents, and most of it pertains to the conventional cloud seeding industry, the traditional cloud seeding industry, that the whole science history of it, and they did all kinds of investigations, state-funded investigations into it back in the late 40s, 1950s, 1960s, on into the early 70s.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's it's mostly geared towards the dispersion of silver iodide, the historical weather modification literature, but you also find glimpses of what I call the New Manhattan Project in the historical weather modification literature.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: And you find these glimpses in the form of electromagnetic energy being used to control the weather.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: Now, this is the defining aspect of today's New Manhattan Project, the use of electromagnetic energy to manipulate the dispersed particulates.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: In the conventional cloud seeding industry, you're just looking at silver iodide with no use of electromagnetic energy.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: So that's a singular element that you have to work with.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: But when you have two elements to work with, such as electromagnetic energy and dispersed particles, well, then you're looking at opening the door to comprehensive weather control.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: Here's my origin story.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, wow, that was fascinating.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_02: So let's break this down a little bit.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, let's start with the conventional cloud seeding.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_02: So one of the things that I found very interesting and undeniable was Operation Popeye in Vietnam.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_02: And this is something I didn't actually know about.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_02: And when I asked my friends, do you know about Operation Popeye?
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: None of them have heard about it.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_02: Even though I was able to find actual proof, documentation on the government website that Pop uh Operation Popeye existed.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: So can you start with telling us what was Operation Popeye?
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_02: What what technology did they use in the Vietnam War?
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was just uh Silver Iodide, the uh in the world.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_02: So it was cloud seeding?
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was just cloud seeding.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: They they made uh cumulus clouds rain out over the Ho Chi Minh Trail to slow the advance of the North Vietnamese, the enemy.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, it's that that whole war was just uh travesty, if you ask me, but anyway, they were called the enemy at the time.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: And uh so but that was yeah, that was the first use of uh weather modification in war that uh is is at least well documented.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to rack my brain now, but yeah, uh, you know, because this this whole thing is actually geophysical warfare, and the history of geophysical warfare goes way back.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, Operation Pappa was conducted during the Vietnam War, and uh it was highly classified at the time.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the the even the uh Secretary of Defense Laird didn't know about it, and he had to reverse his statement after uh congressional testimony.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: He testified before Congress that it wasn't going on because he didn't know about it.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: He had to he had to reverse that later.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, even the highest ranking people in the military didn't know about it.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, to I don't know why they do that.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't seem to me, especially in the context of, you know, in a foreign country doing stuff to the enemy, it doesn't seem to me that that should be something that's you know so secret and so classified.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, if they're spraying us here domestically and not telling us about it, well then I understand why that's secret, but you know, all is fair and love and war.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, it doesn't really make sense.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, that's that's that's what happened.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I read that um so after Operation Popeye, I read that it was so successful that the government controlling or you know, DOD, whoever it is, controlling precipitation in that war, that it was so successful that other countries became very concerned and they ended up passing an international treaty forbidding weather modification during wartime.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_02: And so I looked at like the weather modification hearings of 1974, and you have senators.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um, this was a Senate hearing, and um, I'll just read you a couple quotes from it because I I think it's really important to let the listeners know what is actually in some of these documents.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_02: So this is, and I'll attach all of these in the show description along with Peter's book.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um this is just one quote from page three expressing the sense of the Senate that the United States government should seek the agreement of other governments to propose a treaty prohibiting the use of any environmental or geophysical modification activity as a weapon of war or carrying out any of the research or experimentation directed thereto.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_02: This one of the senators on page two actually said, This is a situation which I find extremely distressing.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: If we do not restrict the military use of current environmental modification techniques, we risk the danger of the development of vastly more dangerous techniques whose consequences may be unknown or may cause um irreparable damage to our global environment.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_02: And then in the treaty that they propose um the definition of like modification, if they call it environmental and geophysical modification as a weapon of war, and they're saying it's any weather modification activity which has a purpose or has one of its principal effects, a change in the atmospheric conditions over any part of the earth's surface, including but not limited to any activity designed to increase or decrease precipitation, increase or uh suppress bail, or I think they meant hail, lightning or fog, and direct or divert storm systems.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_02: So they're telling you right there, the the Senate was upset, and they're telling you right there, this is what they're defining it to be.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_02: This is what's been used, and we need some kind of treaty.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_02: And it's my understanding, a treaty did come out of that where you're not supposed to use it during wartime, but peacetime is okay.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's basically the gist of of all the the hot top level uh literature, uh, you know, those laws and stuff is basically like, oh, you can't use it against other people, but you know, peacetime is fine.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, but you know, there's also been uh the most uh pertinent treaty and all this has been the Nmod Treaty.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: And uh decor according to uh Dr.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: Marvin Herndon, world famous PhD, that I rely upon heavily for uh a lot of his peer-reviewed general articles in my book, he he says that the Nmod treaty doesn't ban weather modification, it actually mandates it through its language.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: And that's it's that's a UN UN treaty.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: That's probably the most pertinent one.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_02: Well, okay, so you're saying this UN treaty um basically makes it legal.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_02: Is that what we're saying?
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and the evidence indicates that this whole thing, what I call the New Manhattan Project, this second generation global weather modification project, has been organized through the UN because you know, there's so many uh cross-border ramifications of what they're doing that you have to get pretty much all the nations of the world on board, or else you know the the the particles that are being sprayed are going and you know the electromagnetic energy is going to uh you know affect people in in the country.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: And if they don't if they're not on board with all this, well then they're just gonna get run over.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: So they probably want to be on board.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: At least we're benefiting from it somehow.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_02: And that brings up a good point because so my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that part of the weather modification, this cloud seeding technique was kind of sold to people, organizations, environmental groups, as it's helping with climate change, right?
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_02: Because the thought, one of the thoughts was you disperse these particles in the air and it it could actually reflect the sunlight back.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_02: Like is that is that true?
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: Was is part of this um even the original intention, maybe being part of helping with global warming?
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't call it the intention, I would call it the excuse.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: Because when you spray things out of planes and and create any type of cloud cover, well then you're holding in heat.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: You're not you're not causing heat to to uh to go down, you're causing heat to go up.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: Because uh, you know, it's it's a very well-known atmospheric phenomenon.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: When you have clouds in the sky, uh it holds in heat.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: So the whole that that what you what you mentioned there, you know, the spraying of particulate matter mounts sunlight back into space.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: This is known as the solar radiation management geoengineering thesis or SRM geoengineering, which is the the predominant form of geoengineering, those other types of geoengineering, but uh the SRM geoengineering is the is the one that's really featured.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: And and this is their excuse.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: It was uh, you know, the first time that it came out in the in the press was something that I uncovered in 1955.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: John von Neumann published an article in Fortune magazine called Can We Survive Technology?
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: And it was the first mention, not only the first mention of the SRM geoengineering thesis, but also the first mention of the theory of man-made global warming in the popular culture.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: 1955, John von Neumann Fortune magazine.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_00: So what he effectively did there was he gave you the problem and the solution.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: The problem was global warming.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: The solution was spraying things out of planes to bounce sunlight back into space, which of course is not why they're spraying things out of planes because that doesn't work.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: He was uh really speaking to giving the military-industrial complex a green light to do something pertaining to spraying things out of planes.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's not saving us from global warming, I can guarantee you that.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, you know, there I have a whole chapter in my book called Motives, and it has more to do with uh controlling the weather than anything else.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, they hint at it, they call it oh, climate modification.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, climate is synonymous with weather, isn't it?
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, so they're just playing word games.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, so okay, so right now we're blaming cows for the global warming, right?
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_02: We all need to become vegetarians or vegans and eat bugs and cultured meat or clone meat.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I don't see anybody talking about geoengineering in the equation when we're calculating man-made effects on the environment to control global warming.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_02: So I feel like are the cows a scapegoat?
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like, are they are are they manipulating the numbers to make it seem like cows are like one of the biggest culprits behind global warming?
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: You're you're the scapegoat, Rima.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: We're we're all we're all the scapegoat, uh as mentioned in the Club of Room Rome document.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: Humanity is the enemy.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: You know, uh just our existence on this planet, you know, being industrious, and we exhale carbon too, don't you know?
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, all the things that we do uh as an industrialized society, well, we we're producing way too much carbon.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's just and it's just it's you know, see, because they're they're they're striking at the root of our our existence here on this planet and saying, like, you know, no, no, just like the natural and normal things that you do are bad.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, shaming, they're shaming us.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: You need you need to be yeah, you need to be eliminated.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, it's the same people that say that uh humans are causing global warming that say we need a big reduction in the population of the earth, population reduction advocates.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they're all all the establishment uh pretty much everybody in the establishment espouses the theory of mammate global warming, and a whole lot of them also espouse population reduction.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: Probably, you know, you could say probably most of them.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: Only a few of them are, you know, have enough guts to actually say it in public, but it's been said time and time and time and time and time again.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: And then you see things like, you know, the the COVID kill shots being rolled out, and you know, one of the greatest mass murders in in all of world history.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I think chemtrails has even killed more because it's not only killing people, it's killing the all life on this planet.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I I think that chemtrails is actually the the biggest mass murder ever.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: history.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: I mean they're just doing it right before our eyes.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: They said they were going to do it and now they're doing it.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: So that's where we're at.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_02: And like you said, the shocking thing to me is once you start doing just a basic online search, the information is out in the open.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: It's not like this is hidden.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's there's tons of information that comes up from original sources, from the government's own documents.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like we better wake up and believe that what they say they're going to do is what they're actually doing.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah for that yeah no please please continue.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: If you if you insist I think this is a good time to uh put the skeptics to bed and and show them that you can prove that these lines in the sky are particulate matter five different ways.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: And uh open up my little notes here.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: And first of all let's start with the environmental samples.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know there's seemingly endless amounts of these things where people take most pertinently rainwater samples and they send it to a lab and they find that you know there's aluminum and barium and strontium and all magnet and manganese and mercury and all kinds of nasty stuff in in the rainwater shouldn't be there at all.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: Rainwater is supposed to be you know we're if we aren't being assaulted with all these chemical chemicals all the time rainwater is supposed to be you know pretty much pure water with very little contamination but we're seeing these amazing levels of all these different constituents of the sub of the of the substance that we're being sprayed with called coal fly ash, which is the smoke that rises from burning coal.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's a toxic waste byproduct of the coal-fired power plant industry.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: But you know it has constituents it's you know has aluminum is a major constituent of coal fly ash.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh barium and strontium are secondary constituents but you know when you have barium and strontium in your rainwater you got problems.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so we we've had these these rainwater sample test results posted on on websites such as geoengineeringwatch.org, chemtrailsprojectuk com and globalskywatch.com so you can see these these are all PDFs from uh labs.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_02: So there's there's that wait wait hold on let me let me pause right there because I don't want the listeners to miss this.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_02: So if I'm hearing you correctly what you're saying is we have these industrial plants that have these smokestacks and they're are they they're catching they're trying to filter is it the smoke that's coming out from the processing and they're catching that.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah and you're saying and they're dispersing that directly into the atmosphere?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah it's a mystery it's a mystery as to how it gets from the coal-fired power plant and into the plane.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: This is something that we're working on.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: But the the substance that we're we're commonly sprayed with has been scientifically determined as this coal fly ash uh this is the work of a world famous PhD scientist named Marvin Herndon as well as at the time these paper papers were published at the time uh Mark Mark Whiteside the co-author was a sitting director of the Monroe County Florida Department of Health which is you know the the the southern Florida most southern uh county in Florida with the keys and actually it's south of Miami so yeah just with the keys of Florida.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway uh they they from all the samples that they tested they found in all of them they found this chemical signature of coal fly ash.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then so from that they they wrote a whole bunch of papers this is like 28 peer-reviewed journal articles and most uh it had most of an impact upon my biological impacts chapter that that really features the work of doctors uh whiteside and and Herndon in there because they not only determine the substance, they also tell us what that substance is doing to us.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: Because this is very well known of you know the reason why we don't see smoke coming out of coal-fired power plants is because they've been forced to put these machines on the on their emissions that take away the coal fly ash, that sequester the coal fly ash before it goes out into the environment through class action lawsuits.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: And that was already all established by the time the Clean Air Act happened in 1976 that the feds finally said no you have to have these machines called electrostatic precipitators on your plant intercepting the coal fly ash.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah and uh so there's there there's all that.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_02: Wait so then they have to get they have to figure out it's waste right it's it's like a byproduct industrial byproduct now they have to figure out what to do with it.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_00: And soxic yes and so they put it in our sky you know this reminds me of the fluoride in the water that's another industrial waste product that they had to figure out what to do with yeah I mean guess who guess who was the number one promoter of of fluoride in in America in the 1950s it was guy it was a guy by the name of Harold Hodge who was the chief toxicologist of the original Manhattan project and and fluoride was was a big uh waste byproduct of of producing nuclear bombs as well as fuel for nuclear power plants so they had all this fluoride and they're like well what are we going to do with this they're like let's put it in their drinking water and they're like yeah let's go you know what I mean it goes on to this day it's it's like we're we're the scapegoats and the disposals um okay so before we jump onto the next one you said you had the chapter about the biological harm like the it's pretty much the biological price tag that we're carrying for their decisions.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_02: What what are some of the health concerns with us breathing in this industrial byproduct well yeah I got all that I mean I got uh four other ways to scientifically prove that that chemtrails are not contrails um okay do you want to go through those first and then we'll talk about the I have a whole nother page of notes that that we can get to and I'll I'll pull that up right now biological impacts.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: So hopefully we won't forget that.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: But you know just so people know that we are being hit with with science with um particulate matter I I want to go over these things.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: So they're the environmental samples and then I discovered something that I think is the most compelling scientific evidence for all of this.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said uh a little earlier I I took the screenshots of the uh California Air Resources board data the carb data and and that showed you know rising levels of aluminum and barium but I think it's the most damning because this was evidence that was collected by career scientists and um it was put through a process you know uh uh so that you could check on it and make sure that uh you know it was all correct and everything before it went out to the public.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_00: And it was on uh charts so that it had it had years.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: There was like you know 10 years are shown on this chart where they came up with a number for the average annual statewide ambient barium and aluminum.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_00: So you had this much in this year this much in the next year this much in the next year and what you see in the chart is it bottoming out around 1996 which was right when the domestic large scale spraying operations began and we know this from a book called Chemtrails Confirmed by William Thomas did a lot of legwork journalism a lot of people witnessing planes all of a sudden just spraying us that book came out in 2004 but anyway in these carb carb charts you see the the level of aluminum both aluminum and barium bottoming out in around 1996 and then rising from that point for about uh up until 2002.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_00: So that was six years six years of it rising from the point where the large scale domestic spraying operations began and then they stopped sampling for it in 2002.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_00: You know when we what because they didn't like the results or well that's that's that's another question because see all they did was just take everything down and then just cover everything up and try to sweep everything under the rug and they presented new data and they said oh no that that data that you saw that's not the data we have the real data and they presented that real data to about 20 people never posted it on their website and just said oh no don't forget you know just don't worry about it we're we're good we got your back and uh yeah so but uh there's so there was that California resources board data showing these these elevated levels of toxins over a period of time and then we have uh also Marvin Herndon wrote a paper Marvin Herndon uh world famous PhD has a Wikipedia listing you can look that up if you like he did a paper a peer reviewed peer-reviewed journal article in 2020 called chemtrails are not contrails radiometric evidence he had a radiometer that was fixed on the sun this measure this is a device that measures radiance energy and he had it set up so that it was tracking the sun on a sunny day there were no clouds and it was pointed right at the sun and the way it was on the tripod had some kind of motorized deal on it where it was actually pointing continuously pointing at the sun and he although he wasn't trying to do this a chemtrail just happened to waft in front of his radiometer in between his radiometer and the sun and this produced a reading on the radiometer that proves scientifically that that was particulate matter and not water vapor as the establishment says oh wow how serendipitous yeah so that was particularly damning and uh that was a peer-reviewed journal article published in the Journal of Geography, environment and earth science international and then Dane Dane Wiggington of GeoengineeringWatch.org in his movie The Dimming he found two different ways to prove that we are being sprayed with particulate matter he went up in a plane the industry standard a NOAA flying laboratory national ocean oceanic oceanic and atmospheric administration flying laboratory these these things uh go back a long long ways uh they had these things back in the 60s and stuff but this is a more a more later edition it was like kind of like a private jet kind of a thing but if you watch the movie the dimming you'll see he uh in one mission they went up and they took direct samples a lot of scientists have been acting act asking for these direct samples you know that we not waiting for the chemtrail to to come down or rain out or whatever they wanted samples from it as it's in the sky so Dane went up and got them and in the first round of samples that he had analyzed we found guess what the same elements that we're finding in the rainwater aluminum, barium strontium all kinds of other crap.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_00: And these are all constituents of coal flash and so you're saying this is a sample of uh material that's coming directly out of the planes yeah while it's still in the sky it just came out of the plane and then Dane's plane follows up and takes a sample of it and we found the same toxins that we're seeing in the rainwater samples and in a subsequent mission Dane and his colleagues found an abundance of nanoparticles that shouldn't be there.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: And you know this this is they they're spraying us with the particulate matter that is in the nanorange probably one tenth of a micron or one thousand nanometers which is the optimum size the size for optimum nucleation as I determined from the historic weather modification literature.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: So are you referring to for example nanoparticle sizes of aluminum well it depends um you know because this is uh coal fly ash so it's uh you know there there's a bunch of stuff and coal fly ash and it depends on where the coal fly ash came from a different coal coals have uh different produce different coal fly ashes and uh what what they're finding is is the presence of certain elements such as aluminum uh I can't speak to you know what the molecule looked like but I'm I'm you know we're seeing the the presence of these different elements because they are constituents of coal fly ash so there's that five that there's five different ways you can prove the chemtrails and not contrails and then I haven't forgotten your biological impacts but um so before we go into biological impacts I definitely want to get to that but but let's circle back around to close the loop here.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_02: So we mentioned cloud seeding and this one I think cloud seeding for many people I know it became a reality after the flood in Texas that that killed um the unfortunate Americans and I remember because even Glenn Beck had somebody from a cloud seeding company come on his show and talk about cloud seeding and so it became this at that point it became kind of an open dialogue where people were becoming aware that oh cloud seeding's a thing there's companies out there that are actively doing cloud seeding um but it was in my opinion based on what I know now it was being downplayed about what they're actually doing.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: And so can you explain the difference between the cloud seeding and what you're saying is the new Manhattan project.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah and and we need to make that distinction you know the the cloud seeding industry started right after World War II in uh 1947.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah they've been spraying us with silver iodide mostly in western states uh because that's where we want enhanced precipitation because in the eastern half of the country it's usually a problem of too much water not too little and the conventional cloud seeding industry generally produces uh more precipitation they're also suppressing hail and lightning but the vast majority of it is producing more precipitation and it's not always done from planes they have uh ground based generators as well that uh the power companies in particular I have I have documentation of power companies using these ground based silveride generators but yeah that's a you know that's a that's a singular thing that's only one element as I mentioned earlier it's just it's pretty dumb you know so it's like you got a substance and you're just putting it into a a rain cloud and making it actually rain.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: But you know when you're talking about using particularly electromagnetic energy well then you're talking about all kinds of stuff that can be done and they're they're spraying us with a different substance you know not silver iodide they're using coal fly ash that is being done on a global basis not on a regional regional or local basis and they're using electromagnetic energy so there's you know I've just I just noted three different ways that what I call the new Manhattan project is significantly different from the conventional cloud seeding industry.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_02: Okay so uh why did they switch to the coal fly ash?
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: Well it's it's a whole new program you know it it yeah this the the the silver iodide stuff is just tinker toy stuff there what you know we should really just be looking at the uh traditional cloud seeding industry as a precursor and something that's set a precedent they've set a precedent that they they just go ahead and spray us with whatever they want whenever they want and they you know they've been spraying us with all kinds of other stuff as well but um you know they they they set a precedent for for these things and a precedent of unaccountability uh particularly pertaining to the ecological impacts of weather modification sprays their their position the they have an interest industry association uh weather modification industry association and their position has always been don't worry about it it's not a problem we say so you know yeah trust us right after reading a stack of documents a yard high i was able to find a singular report that spoke to the toxicology of silver iodide and it was not good this was called the this report was called the ecological effects of weather modification of problem analysis it was by the Bureau of Reclamation and came out in 1969 and they noted in in this paper they said quote there has so far not been a single biological field study completed and reported in the literature specifically designed to identify any aspect of the ecological effects of weather modification unquote so they specifically noted in this paper in 1969 that like hey you know you've been spraying people with this for 20 years at that time it was 20 years and you've never done any kind of real study as to the toxicology of this you know and this was largely due to the fact that when the conventional cloud seeding industry was born in late 1946 there was a whole big press explosion about the three general electric scientists who carried out these initial experiments Irving Langmuir, Vincent Schaefer and Bernard Vonnegut but they were what they did was they they dumped dry ice out of a plane and caused it caused it to rain.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: Dry ice does the same thing that silver iodide does but dry ice is innocuous in the environment isn't it yeah right that's not a problem in fact it's frozen carbon dioxide and so you know they can dump dry ice into clouds all day and you won't see me complaining because it's just like nothing they might as well be dumping air you know dumping water it's not a problem but after all the whole press hub hub hubaloo is that the right word died down in late 1946 you know you know how this works in the public mind the public narrative you know they're interested in one thing for maybe a day or maybe a week or maybe a couple weeks and then it's on to the next thing and you know so after that that whole press explosion died down well then they started using silver iodide then they started using lead iodide then they started using a whole list of all kinds of other stuff to experiment with with you know modifying the weather and dumping things into clouds and all this while you weren't looking while you were looking they were using something that was innocuous but then when you when when you weren't looking they were hitting you with everything they got you see how that works well it sounds like a bait and switch so exactly um and that's documented oh yeah oh that's okay and are they still using lead iodide because uh not to my knowledge you know it's it's in the weather modification literature and I have a long list of all kinds of substances that they've sprayed us with over the years uh pertaining to weather modification but um I just think it's been pretty well established by this point that if you're looking to engage in conventional cloud seeding activities, you're using silver iodide these days.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's just the industry standard and uh I don't see anybody using dry ice.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: I don't see anybody using anything else except silver iodide these days.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_02: Okay okay so that's cloud seeding and like we said that's kind of like kids play compared to this other side of the equation.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_02: So now explain to us this 2.0 version that sounds dramatically worse to me.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah you know uh they they can uh with uh spray particulates and electromagnetic energy you can easily create high pressure zones you just saturate the atmosphere with these little particles and then you hit the little particles with something called their resonant frequency that makes them heat up and you can create a high pressure system that way.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: There's also stuff in in the patents uh patents pertaining to this uh PARP antenna in Alaska high frequency active auroral research project that has all it has like 12 patents assigned to it and a lot of it has to do with weather modification this is known as an ionospheric heater and not only can they create high pressure zones but the HARP patents also say that once you have those small small particles saturated in the atmosphere you can move those particles around with electromagnetic energy so you can cause air masses to move this way or that way because you you you're you can lock on those little particles and have them move on mass in this way and then encourage the whole air mass to move that way or the other way.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_00: And then also the harp antenna can manipulate the ionosphere cause uh weather effects because the ionosphere is high up in the atmosphere but it has a direct effect upon weather down here in the troposphere and you can you can uh cause uh like a cause the ionosphere to to bow up so that would create a low pressure zone see because you're you're reducing you're increasing the amount of of volume in that that column that goes all the way down to the the troposphere and the earth so you're you're causing less pressure in there a low pressure zone that way you can you can cause the ionosphere to focus the sun's rays like a lens and have it focused down upon any certain point and there's all kinds of other technicalities and things uh that uh I you know I I'm not the most scientifically oriented person but uh you know I've seen a multitude of ways already that electromagnetic energy can be used in in many different ways that are not possible with the conventional cloud seeding industry.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_02: Wow so they can literally control the weather in including moving that weather to whatever location they Desire, right?
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like it sounds like that's what you're saying.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_02: So so in terms so they need the energy component, right, to be able to do that.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_02: Is that correct?
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: They need to they have the particulates in the in the atmosphere, and then they need to direct some energy source toward it.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_00: Electromagnetic energy.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_00: There's not only the HARP antenna, there's uh you know lots of these ionospheric heaters, such as HARP, all over the world.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_00: I think there's about 20 or 30 of them.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_00: And then also there are that you can uh you can do things, you can uh send uh electromagnetic energy that can control the weather from satellites as well as from ground-based antennas that are part of this next rad system.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_00: And there's there's the that next rad is generally referred to as Doppler radar on the TV and stuff.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_00: Doppler is really just one thing that these next rad stations can do.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_00: And uh the evidence indicates, and my science advisor tells me that my science advisor had a cue clearance of the Department of Energy.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_00: Her name is Ginny Silcox.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_00: She tells me that uh these next rad stations can and are producing the electromagnetic energy that is used to modify and control the weather.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_00: And then there's all kinds of other antennas.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: There's like mobile versions of HARP, uh scaled-down versions.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_00: There's like a C-based version of it.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you could have uh uh an antenna that can pr that can do a lot of the same things that that HARP can do or could do when it first came out.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: You could have it in your backyard.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's uh, you know, if you had a sizable backyard, it's just it would just take some equipment.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, it it would only take the government or some university or somebody owning a uh you know significant size of land, and they just dedicate maybe a third of a football field or even a quarter of a football field or even less to you know some facility that can produce electromagnetic energy that controls the weather.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: So this is uh can definitely be done.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, so it so this isn't something that like the 5G towers could do, for example.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, really?
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh I'm not exactly clear on that.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't been given uh specific information on that, but uh, you know, I've been I've been given information pertaining pertaining to the next rad system, and there's a lot of these facilities all over the place.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, it it not not the 5G things aren't necessarily producing any electromagnetic energy that has anything to do with controlling the weather, but they may, they may.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so maybe something to be explored there.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because that also seemed to have rolled out, you know, why we were in our homes.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, at least in my area, did.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, okay, so but before we run out of time, let's talk about the biological consequences um from some of these researchers that you've been in contact with.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_02: And then let's propose some solutions, at least on an individual level, of things people can possibly do uh to try to protect themselves from this and also maybe to detox from it.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, I don't have a uh page on page of notes on solutions.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's okay.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'll try to keep it short.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I understand we only have about 10 minutes.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, uh Drs.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: Herndon and Whiteside have published 28 peer-reviewed journal articles about the ecological impacts of uh being sprayed with coal fly ash.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_00: And uh this has produced uh this produces synergistic toxicity uh in in humans, and uh there's lots of radioactive or potentially radioactive substances in coal fly ash, and all these things are made bioavailable with water.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Dr.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_00: Herndon has been saying that this is a free aluminum that that we're being uh assaulted with, uh that, or at least it's it's bioactivated when um it comes out of planes and gets gets in touch with with water.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_00: And so this is much more harmful than the aluminum that's just you know uh already aluminum oxide and you know, safely within the earth.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: There's lots of aluminum, but uh this this particular form of aluminum is uh apparently particularly bad for us.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: And just particulate matter is bad for us.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you know, just particulate matter is linked to all kinds of diseases, but um the uh coal fly ash has been uh linked to a lot of diseases as well, including uh lung cancer, Alzheimer's, dementia, decreased host defenses, tissue inflammation, cellular oxidation, genotoxicity, oxidative stress, chronic inflammation, and chronic lung disease.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_00: And then we have rates of CDC Alzheimer's and Parkinson's uh going up since the spraying began in the mid-1990s.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_00: We have Alzheimer's from 1999 to 2014 up 40 percent.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_00: So these are in years following the beginning of it.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_00: It began in 1996.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_00: We have Parkinson's from 1999 to 2017 up 33 percent.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_00: These are centers for disease control numbers.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_00: We have uh not only that, we have UVB and UVC coming through and uh hit striking the planet, and this kills pretty much all life on the planet.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_00: And uh we have uh this applied to uh birds, bats, and insects.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_00: And uh birds, bats, and insects have been uh dying at uh incredible rates.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_00: The forests are dying, you can see it all around you.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I've never seen so many dead trees, and this is uh due to the UVB, the UVC toxicity, and uh toxicity of the soil, toxicity of the rainwater, and uh and uh yeah, and the and then these uh trees are are dried out, and then the bark beetles attack.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: This is where the bark beetles come from.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, oh, it's you know, the forests are burning because of bark beetles.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, where do the bark beetles come from?
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_00: Because bark beetles can't feast on a tree that's strong, they feast on trees that are weak.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_00: Trees have been weakened by this new Manhattan project and the coal fly ash they're spraying this with.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_00: And then so you have these, you know, tinder boxes that just go up, go up, go up like a bunch of match matchsticks when uh when we have fire.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_00: And this is why we've seen these tremendously huge fires recently.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_00: That all this is because of the fact that we're being sprayed.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_02: And um let's pause.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_02: I know we got a lot to cover, but let's pause just for a second because I don't think most people even think about UVC, like ultraviolet C.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_02: We're uh familiar with like UVA and UVB, uh, because we're told that that ultraviolet light reaches the earth's surface and can cause tanning or sunburns, right?
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_02: But UVC is another specific range of ultraviolet light.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_02: And when I was reading about it, it's often referred to as germicidal UV because in the literature it shows that it can destroy the genetic material of microorganisms.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and we historically were trained in school not to worry about UVC because we were told it's almost entirely absorbed by the Earth's atmosphere, specifically the ozone layer, right?
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_02: But if correct me if I'm wrong, it sounds like from my reading that this geoengineering is contributing to actually destroying the ozone layer, which is allowing UVC, which shouldn't be hitting our skin, it's allowing it to come through and touching us, touching the trees, the plants, the livestock, and it's it's causing detriment to them because again, as I said, um it's it has a germicidal action.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_02: Is that correct?
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_00: And uh Dr.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_00: Marvin Herndon has written at least one peer-reviewed journal article to this effect.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, there's the UVB and the UVC is probably the worst part of it.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, you know, that's and that the insects are are getting just destroyed by all this.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we you know, it's it's kind of scary, but you can go online and type, you know, insect pop, just type in insect populations.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_00: Don't even say that there's anything you know going wrong.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_00: Just type in insect populations and you'll see what's going on.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_00: And it's it's really rather quite scary.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_00: So you said you also wanted to get into solutions a little bit.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I would love to get into some solutions.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_02: So, because this is you know, especially for someone who hasn't uh researched this or you know, been looking even into this category.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_02: This could be a really heavy topic and it can feel kind of overwhelming.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_02: What are you gonna do?
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_02: They're spraying it from the sky.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_02: We all have to breathe the air.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_02: So let's at least try to leave them on a little bit of a up note.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like there has to be some actionable items that someone can do to at least mitigate some effects.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_00: My my number one thing is uh air purification.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you get a good air purifier and you have a decent house that doesn't have all kinds of holes in it, you can turn up that that air air purifier and and you'll be breathing clean air and breathing better in like five minutes.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_00: So there's that.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_00: And then you know, I I like cleansing.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_00: I can't recommend any of these things because I'm not a doctor, but you know, I'm sure you know Dr.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_00: Group and his cleanses, which are the best.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, Dr.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_02: Edward Group.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he is fantastic.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_00: So you if you want to do cleansing and get rid of some of this stuff, that's who you go to.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_00: But then we also have uh a lot of activism going on here.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_00: I've been I've been active uh with this Reclaim Our Skies group on X.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's funny how X suddenly removed the tab for groups, not just like a couple weeks ago.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_00: There was a tab for groups on that going on the left-hand side, and you could easily find Reclaim Our Skies, but now it's more difficult to find.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_00: But uh Reclaim Our Skies is all involved in the state bills moving through state houses as well as well as the federal bill.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I encourage you to check that out, Reclaim Our Skies on X.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_00: And then there's a website called Americans for a Clean Atmosphere that has been involved in the promotion of state bills.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's and their website is Americans the number for a clean atmosphere, Americans for a clean atmosphere.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_00: And then there's also something called the Global Wellness Forum that a Dr.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_00: Group is involved in.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_00: And uh they're they're also organizing, politically organizing a lot of state and federal bills.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_00: I think we should we should also encourage a general accounting office investigation as well as a federal grand jury to investigate all this.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_00: And uh there's some other solutions that are kind of slipping my mind, but we're we are making progress on the state bills, and you know, the federal bill is called the the Clear Sky Act, Clear Skies Act.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's HR 4403.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_00: That was introduced by MTG last year, July 15th, 2025.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's co-sponsored by four uh three other people now, Tim Burchett, Tony Weed, and Thomas Massey.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_00: So there, you know, there is things going on there.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_00: We have to force this issue.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, apparently we're we're going to they're just you know, I figured at a certain point they're just hell, the establishment is just hell-bent on these spraying programs.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're just like, yeah, we're spraying you.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_00: What are you going to do about it?
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_00: You know, uh the this they're just showing their hand, they're showing who they really are.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_00: The stonewalling has been just uh complete.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, they're they they got their mainstream media out there pumping out these articles, you know.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_00: They they call this journalism, where they're obviously opinion pieces where they're like, can you believe these crazy nut job tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists?
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_00: They think that people are spraying things out of planes.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they call this journalism.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's just what this is not in the opinion piece, you know.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_00: Every single article, every single article, the opinion section, every single article that they write is like this.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's crazy.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's and it's frustrating.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, you know, we we just do what we can.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, thought about giving up many times, but this is just what I do.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, this is just who I am.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_00: This is just the skin I was born into.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know, what what I don't have anything else to do.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_00: Or as I put it, I don't have anything better to do.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, and it's like once you see it, how can you unsee it?
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_02: And so once you know that something like this is happening to us, it's hard for someone with a good conscience to not jump in and try to do something about it, which you know, I applaud you for that.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I I want to ask one more question.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of our viewers are homesteaders.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_02: So they're raising animals that are outside, so they can't really filter their air, for example.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_02: Are can you think of any solutions for our homesteading friends who are trying to protect their animals?
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, no, the whole environment has been weaponized against us.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_00: Every aspect of the environment has been weaponized against us.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_00: The only real way to not be affected by this is to be in some completely remote area of the world that isn't getting hit with chemtrails every day, because the more civilization there is, the more chemtrails you get.
• 57:23
  unknown: Yeah.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_00: The more industrialization there is, the more chemtrails you get.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, we're in an industrialized country, and this whole country is being sprayed.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_00: I understand that Wyoming maybe has a little bit less chemtrail spray because there's less uh less people, less industrialization there, but really anywhere in America is getting hit by these things.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, it's it's hard because everything is just being contaminated by all these toxic, cool, fly ash particles everywhere.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, if you're not indoors with an air purification system or in a car with a good cabin filter, air air circulation system, or at your office with a good HVAC system or something like that, you're probably getting hit with these things, and there's really not a whole lot to do except cleanse them out.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what I was gonna suggest.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_02: So I, you know, I I cleanse um daily.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh my family cleanses.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_02: We give it to my dogs.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_02: And so even things like zeolite or chlorella can be used.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_02: There's a daily detox product that I use from um a company I like, Raw Revelations.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and we don't have sponsors, by the way.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_02: So we have no financial ties to any of these companies.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just sharing for educational purposes something that I like to do.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_02: And I've given it to my dogs, and it seems to be helping them.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_02: But it is the time that we live in where, like you said, we're in a soup of chemicals, you know, in the food, on the food, in the skies now, it's in the water.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, so you really have to be diligent about protecting your family.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_02: And in a case like this, you know, well, I'll go ahead and support, you know, the bills or whatever I can to get them to stop doing it.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_02: But in the meantime, I think it's a really wise decision to make sure that we're detoxing our family members and our furry family members, whether they're inside or outside.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you you gotta be careful with that.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_00: You should probably talk to your doctor first.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_00: And then and then also, also, you know, when you start cleansing and changing your body chemistry, it can affect your immune system.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_00: So you don't want to just go whole hog into it and just do cleanse after cleanse after cleanse because your your immune system, your whole body is gonna be totally screwed up and that you're gonna have to compensate for that, and it'll probably weaken your immune system and stuff.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta, this is cleansing, it's gotta be something you dedicate yourself to over a long period of time.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_00: And and you know, you you can do a few different cleanses every year, but you know, you don't want to overdo it as well.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I'm so glad you brought that up.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's definitely great to work with somebody who understands how to do detoxification.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um, when I was chronically sick, I did a detoxification with um somebody with a functional medicine doctor, and it was very hard on my body.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_02: And so now I do um what I call these daily cleanses.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_02: They're very, very mild cleanses.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_02: So, but I'm not sick.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_02: If someone was like really sick, you need to work with somebody who's an expert in this field to at least get you up to a good baseline level.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_02: And then you, in my experience, most people can then go and do a daily maintenance um from that point on.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_02: But yes, I obviously, yes, great, great point.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_02: Work with somebody, educate yourself because a lot of us have a lot of toxins that are stored in our bodies, and it can really cause unintended consequences trying to pull things out.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, disturbing them.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_00: You start disturbing them and then they start circulating all throughout your body.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_00: In the process of getting rid of them, they they circulate through your body.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, and Edward Group has a lot of resources as well on his website and instructions for how to go through cleansing protocols.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_02: So that's a great, great resource you mentioned.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_02: Now, where can we find your book?
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_00: My book, my favorite topic.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_00: The cover is is on my right shoulder called Chemtrails Exposed, the New Manhattan Project, published by Sky Horse.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_00: Came out about three weeks ago.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_00: And uh yeah, it's available where where books are sold, uh, you know, most notably on Amazon.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm still trying to find out where it's on the shelf and like what bookstores and stuff.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_00: Apparently, this is going to be something that you know sells over time.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_00: It didn't have a big opening.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, I was competing with Peter Schweitzer's book, so you know, I kind of got steamrolled a little bit.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, it had a decent opening, apparently, uh, you know, according to my editor.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, the n I thought the numbers were were pretty low, a lot lower than I expected.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_00: But he said, you know, different books sell in different ways.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, if you don't see it on the on the shelves of your bookstore, then maybe ask them to stock it.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_00: But it's available now on Amazon as an ebook and a hardcover from uh from Skyorse Publishing.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I I'm I I really like how it turned out, and I'm gonna continue to call it the greatest expose ever written.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_00: Get at me.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know, um it's this is part of my job being provocative, but this is something that I that I also truly believe in.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_00: I've read a lot a lot of exposes, and there's a lot of reasons why I say that.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_00: The timing of it, the scope of it, you know, the fact that nobody else has this story.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, who else has has has this story?
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_00: I have the whole history of it going back over a hundred years, the whole contextualization of everything.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's just uh most, you know, a lot of books, a lot of exposes in particular, a lot of rhetoric, very little evidence.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_00: Well, my book is the opposite.
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's a little bit of rhetoric and just mountains and mountains of evidence.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I'm as they say, I'm really bringing the receipts with this.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I think if people read it, I think it's a life-changing book and a world-changing book, really.
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, the subcont the subtext of it all is me figuring out how everything works in the world.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_00: I that's I learned, you know, how how everything works basically and got a good grip on how the establishment operates during the research and writing for this book.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_00: So I encourage people to check it out.
• 1:03:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's a fantastic book.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_02: It well referenced.
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_02: You can tell that you've really put so much time and effort and energy into this.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_02: I encourage everybody to get their hands on it, share it with people who you know because this is a big deal.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_02: It's we're being contaminated.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it's an adulterant in our skies, and it's gonna take an act of the people, I believe, to get this to stop.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_02: So, Peter, thank you so much for joining us.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_02: We will have a just a link to your book in the show notes.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and do you have a website where people can find more information about you or follow up on what you're researching next?
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's the easiest way to get up to speed as to what I'm doing.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_00: I have links to all my stuff at peteracirby.com.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_00: Peterakirby.com.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Peter, and thanks all of you for joining us, and I'll see you next time.