Latest / The Bootleg Kev Podcast / #267 - Cordae
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Core Day is in here. What they do? Bro? How
- 0:01Speaker 1: you feeling, man, I'm very good. It's a little hot
- 0:03Speaker 1: in this room, not gonna lie. It's cool, a little toasty,
- 0:06Speaker 1: It's fine. Well look man, third album, yes, sir, we
- 0:10Speaker 1: didn't have to wait as long for this one. Mm hmm.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Twelve months. Yeah, it's been a year now, yep. I
- 0:16Speaker 1: feel like I feel like it's been I remember the
- 0:20Speaker 1: last album released party. Dave Chappelle was there, Yeah, he
- 0:22Speaker 1: hosted it. That was that was pretty big. Now that's
- 0:25Speaker 1: a bar. Yeah. He did a great favor for me too.
- 0:27Speaker 1: I asked him and then he said easy money. Steve
- 0:30Speaker 1: was there, Yeah, he was actually Yeah, I was at
- 0:34Speaker 1: a joint circle with Simba, Steve Rkle and Dave Chappelle
- 0:37Speaker 1: in the back backstage at the pepper was the Peppermint Club. Yeah,
- 0:40Speaker 1: it was peer Yeah. A lot of good people showed
- 0:43Speaker 1: up to support Killer Roy showed up there. Yeah, yeah,
- 0:47Speaker 1: like a lot of got a a lot of love
- 0:49Speaker 1: from a lot of artists. How does the Dave Chappelle
- 0:51Speaker 1: thing work out? Like, how do you guys become friends
- 0:54Speaker 1: first time? You know what? We got really close during
- 0:59Speaker 1: the pandemic. I will fly out to Ohio to see Yeah, exactly,
- 1:04Speaker 1: and he's just a really good It might be the
- 1:07Speaker 1: Virgo connection too, but not that I'm like a moon
- 1:11Speaker 1: worship you are you really into that? I'm I'm not
- 1:14Speaker 1: a moon worshiper. What do you worship? God? Shout out
- 1:17Speaker 1: to go, you know, shut out to God the one?
- 1:18Speaker 1: But which type of guy that we're going? Catholic God,
- 1:21Speaker 1: Christian God, Baptism, I'm a I'm a Baptist. I'm a Christian, sure, okay,
- 1:25Speaker 1: but more so with Dave Chappelle, Like we just got
- 1:30Speaker 1: really cool because somebody I can always go to for
- 1:33Speaker 1: advice and he just realed down to earth, Like he's
- 1:35Speaker 1: just a real one bro. You know. So visiting him
- 1:37Speaker 1: in Ohio, like a town in kind of the middle
- 1:39Speaker 1: of nowhere, in the middle of time, the thing COVID paranoia, Yeah,
- 1:44Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was awesome. Yeah. So you
- 1:46Speaker 1: guys just from there just connected and it was like,
- 1:48Speaker 1: and you know, he's from Maryland too, so it's it's
- 1:51Speaker 1: just an easy thing. Do you feel like because I
- 1:54Speaker 1: feel like Maryland is low key, like highly slept on.
- 1:56Speaker 1: When we talk about like kind of the grand scheme
- 1:58Speaker 1: of like hip hop you know you got your off,
- 2:00Speaker 1: you got yeah logic. Yeah, there's a lot of hitters
- 2:05Speaker 1: from Maryland and Bro Marvin Gaye from DC shout you
- 2:09Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, we got It's such a rich
- 2:11Speaker 1: culture of music, you know, and DC, Maryland, Virginia, DMV
- 2:15Speaker 1: United instead as one will be so much like because
- 2:18Speaker 1: even Virginia got Pusher, got Pharrell, got Chris Brown Trey songs.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Fat Trails just got out Fat Trails. He shout out,
- 2:25Speaker 1: Fat Trail cold. Yeah, I got money, y'all got power,
- 2:28Speaker 1: I got respect with this. I'll just tell you, like
- 2:30Speaker 1: growing up as like a kid because like Fat Trail,
- 2:31Speaker 1: Sluttie Boys, huge fan like, ain't no blow on my projects,
- 2:35Speaker 1: Like what the fuck is the chick? It felt like
- 2:37Speaker 1: such a like moment when he got MMG. It felt
- 2:40Speaker 1: like like, oh shit's about to go crazy. Yeah nah,
- 2:42Speaker 1: for sure it was crazy bro like Trail Glizzi Grizzy.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Like I said, Trail huge influence will
- 2:51Speaker 1: a obviously big flock. So many local artists too. I
- 2:54Speaker 1: DK is killing it now, K is incredible. So it's
- 2:57Speaker 1: it's a lot of really good artists out that area.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Bro right now, because I feel like you have great
- 3:01Speaker 1: taste in music, and you're kind of like, you know,
- 3:04Speaker 1: you're not, like you might have some old head taste
- 3:07Speaker 1: in you for being a young kid. But what are
- 3:09Speaker 1: you listening to? I won't say I got old head taste.
- 3:11Speaker 1: I just think I like to go back. Yeah, but okay,
- 3:17Speaker 1: point maybe proven. I've been listening to a lot of
- 3:19Speaker 1: Outgreen lately, but I've been listening to a lot of
- 3:21Speaker 1: older music for samples, you know, just to listen and
- 3:23Speaker 1: old head taste for sure. Yeah, the Silvers, you know
- 3:26Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Just but for sample purposes and because
- 3:29Speaker 1: it's fucking good. Like wine is always going to be
- 3:32Speaker 1: fine wine. You can always go back and watch Michael
- 3:34Speaker 1: Jordan highlights and they're still crazy. Pete Marrivig not so much,
- 3:39Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, once you get to
- 3:41Speaker 1: like when the TVs were black and white on YouTube,
- 3:43Speaker 1: the highlights become really bad. Yeah you're like, oh, these
- 3:46Speaker 1: guys would be terrible today. They couldn't last because they
- 3:49Speaker 1: were just playing against a bunch of guys that looked
- 3:50Speaker 1: like me. Yeah. No, it was like niggas is plumbing.
- 3:53Speaker 1: And then okay, I got a game tonight at the
- 3:55Speaker 1: National Basketball Association. But any hip hop you're like that
- 4:00Speaker 1: is like you know anything new, Like have you listened
- 4:02Speaker 1: to the new Literally album? No, I haven't chat, I
- 4:05Speaker 1: haven't chat Crazy it's dope, trippy psychedelic, like, yeah, no,
- 4:09Speaker 1: I've seen that. It was like an experimental album album.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Shout out to him for like, it takes a lot
- 4:13Speaker 1: of nuts to do some ship like that. The type
- 4:15Speaker 1: of music you would love to listen to it Truman
- 4:18Speaker 1: hard Yeah, Goodman music, Nah, for sure, and I gotta
- 4:22Speaker 1: check it out. I'll definitely check it out. What is
- 4:24Speaker 1: your go to shroman music? Mmm, let me see the
- 4:32Speaker 1: goat to just anything soulful, anything soulful, and it's also
- 4:38Speaker 1: you can just type in shroom playlist on Yeah, yeah,
- 4:42Speaker 1: Mack to Marco, Nirvana, fucking yeah, entertain What song is that? Entertain?
- 4:49Speaker 1: It's a big ass song. And I'm crazy for not
- 4:51Speaker 1: knowing the ts. Yeah, it's a shout out to you. Yeah,
- 4:55Speaker 1: it's a it's crazy. Mac Miller's great on Troops. Yeah,
- 5:00Speaker 1: Travis is Tame and Paula. Yeah, Tame and Paula of
- 5:03Speaker 1: course that the LSD LSD. I feel like I had
- 5:06Speaker 1: ass naming all these like big troom songs. But that's
- 5:09Speaker 1: what I do. I just go on sound and just
- 5:13Speaker 1: hit play you good, yeah, super good. Worst trip you've
- 5:16Speaker 1: ever had, Oh, I've had if any I've had a
- 5:20Speaker 1: bad one. I've had just one bad one, Bro, I
- 5:22Speaker 1: was it was. It was just a dumb reason why
- 5:24Speaker 1: I did. I was in the hall, in the crib along.
- 5:26Speaker 1: I just shouldn't have did it. I was in a
- 5:28Speaker 1: dark place in my life, honestly, Truman at home alone. Bro,
- 5:31Speaker 1: it was crazy. It was horrible. Pandemic No, not pandemic.
- 5:35Speaker 1: So what happened? Were you just like overthinking everything freaking out? Yeah?
- 5:37Speaker 1: I was. Yeah, I was like really on panic mode
- 5:40Speaker 1: like in life, Like I was on like full on
- 5:42Speaker 1: panic mode. Like it was crazy, Bro, it was. It
- 5:45Speaker 1: was not something I like to revis it. Was just
- 5:48Speaker 1: it was a bad trip. Explain to me what was
- 5:51Speaker 1: going on with the Abraham Lincoln fake fake beard thing
- 5:54Speaker 1: that was happening for that show, because I really legit
- 5:56Speaker 1: thought because I didn't seen you online in a while,
- 5:58Speaker 1: and then you pop back out and I'm like, oh
- 5:59Speaker 1: this guys just just saying like I don't know what's
- 6:02Speaker 1: happening here. Yeah, it's this character I got Big Play
- 6:05Speaker 1: Day and I I was him in the R and
- 6:08Speaker 1: P video, So I was just like, you know, and
- 6:09Speaker 1: I had to do a TV show that day, okay,
- 6:11Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know what. And for the TV show,
- 6:13Speaker 1: I was Big Play Day, my character that I my
- 6:16Speaker 1: alter It's kind of like my alter ego, honestly. And
- 6:20Speaker 1: so for the TV shows called The South Side, so
- 6:23Speaker 1: I had to be my alter ego Big Play Day,
- 6:26Speaker 1: and I had my chops on. I'm like, you know what, bro,
- 6:29Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm gonna do the show with him. And
- 6:30Speaker 1: I didn't think it was I was just like, y'all,
- 6:32Speaker 1: fuck it, like I thought it was real. I'm a creative. Yeah,
- 6:34Speaker 1: that's crazy. Nigga looked like Kareem Abdul Jabbar's like, Jesus,
- 6:38Speaker 1: he's going straight seventies porn mode on these my maath
- 6:41Speaker 1: for real, straight up BBC nights out here. Absolutely, Yeah,
- 6:47Speaker 1: did you say BBC? Jesus? You said it? And I
- 6:50Speaker 1: mean you said it. He did it anyway. You you
- 6:55Speaker 1: go to a lot of basketball games. Yeah, I feel
- 6:57Speaker 1: like you're a front row of many I am. You're
- 7:00Speaker 1: very passionate about the NBA in the sport. Would I
- 7:04Speaker 1: want to say that I just am in a blessed
- 7:06Speaker 1: as position in my life through where I get court
- 7:09Speaker 1: side tickets for free, So for free, for free? How
- 7:12Speaker 1: does that work? My agent manager? And then sometimes I'll
- 7:16Speaker 1: know the players, so courtside for free every time. You've
- 7:20Speaker 1: never paid not a dollar? Wow? Right, hand of God,
- 7:23Speaker 1: I've been over one hundred. In my first NBA game,
- 7:25Speaker 1: I was court sided. Wow. That's nice. God is great.
- 7:29Speaker 1: What have you ever had like a situation where you're
- 7:31Speaker 1: talking shit or like somebody was like, like, you know,
- 7:33Speaker 1: you're at courtside you hear Yeah, so you heard something.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Maybe you shouldn't have hurt. No, I don't talk now.
- 7:38Speaker 1: I don't talk shit at all because I like the
- 7:40Speaker 1: I'm just there to enjoy the game and I ain't
- 7:42Speaker 1: trying to fight No. Seven for the plus I got hands.
- 7:45Speaker 1: But you're a Wizards fane. I'm a Wizards fan, I mean,
- 7:47Speaker 1: and that's rough. What are you gonna say? We got
- 7:49Speaker 1: Bradley Bill? Like, who cares for? Now? Do you want
- 7:53Speaker 1: Bradley Bill to stay? There's no way you want him
- 7:56Speaker 1: to stay as a Bradley Bill fan or a Wizard
- 7:59Speaker 1: fan a wiz Yeah, I want brad Bell to stay.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Why because he's like, so you can continue to fight
- 8:04Speaker 1: for the night Seed. You think we should just tank? Yeah, Victor,
- 8:10Speaker 1: I think you guys trade Bradley Beal, Chris stops Porzingis Kuzma,
- 8:14Speaker 1: get a bunch of fucking picks, and well we got
- 8:16Speaker 1: a we get another star. What if we just get
- 8:18Speaker 1: another star? Then we were doing something no one's going
- 8:21Speaker 1: to DC. I know it's not gonna happen. The closest
- 8:25Speaker 1: thing to another star y'all got is that tall, awkward
- 8:27Speaker 1: white man Chris stops Pusini. Oh yeah, it's called it.
- 8:32Speaker 1: You're getting a distressed asset. That's the best that's the
- 8:34Speaker 1: best case scenario for the Wizards. Get a distressed asset
- 8:37Speaker 1: like Chris stops and he actually comes through and plays
- 8:39Speaker 1: all right, which is we just traded a Ucci Uchi Rama?
- 8:44Speaker 1: What ruly? Hatra mora? It's not nah. That sounds like
- 8:49Speaker 1: a great porno. Speaking to BBC's hu Chi Rama Baby
- 8:53Speaker 1: whoci in big like seventies letters, I watched a movie
- 8:56Speaker 1: called Rama who Chi Rama Baby? That sounds like a
- 8:59Speaker 1: great sitcom too, Whuchi Rama. I think you're gonna be
- 9:02Speaker 1: good for the Lakers though, Yeah, he's Uh, I don't know. Man,
- 9:08Speaker 1: was he good for y'all? No, he was straight. He
- 9:10Speaker 1: got the job done. He got the job done. You know,
- 9:13Speaker 1: he shout out to him. Yeah, he shout out. You know,
- 9:16Speaker 1: he's got his own pair of Jordan's. He's got like
- 9:19Speaker 1: a really moral version of Jordan's six. For real, I
- 9:21Speaker 1: think it's a six. Yeah, hey, shout out to hey, Hey,
- 9:25Speaker 1: young black man getting money. Man, can't be mad at that.
- 9:27Speaker 1: You're still doing Puma. I see you got Louise on
- 9:29Speaker 1: what's going on? Absolutely, I'm wearing Puma, but I had
- 9:31Speaker 1: to master the jacket. So what happens? You can in
- 9:33Speaker 1: trouble if you wear Louis Patan shoes. Nah, because they're
- 9:35Speaker 1: not a direct competitor of Puma. According to the the Article
- 9:38Speaker 1: eleven a, Section three of my contract. As long as
- 9:41Speaker 1: I'm not wearing any competitors, is it frustrating that you
- 9:45Speaker 1: can't wear some fly jays? It isn't tool them quarterly
- 9:49Speaker 1: checks coming, And I mean listen, man, Puma is on fire. Mann.
- 9:54Speaker 1: You know, you know it's crazy. I might reanswer that sometimes,
- 9:59Speaker 1: but Puma has a l a wide variety, like the
- 10:03Speaker 1: Puma Rude collab is super and I'm not only like
- 10:08Speaker 1: collab is fire. Fucking Yeah. We got some ship at Puma, bro,
- 10:13Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. We got some good ship at
- 10:14Speaker 1: poo poos great now they're they're great, And we're number
- 10:17Speaker 1: two behind Nike is as far as its most athletic
- 10:20Speaker 1: gear and most sneaker soul. Literally we're number two behind
- 10:23Speaker 1: Nike and we c and the dope thing about Puma,
- 10:25Speaker 1: they're more like inclusive, like they'll get like a kid
- 10:27Speaker 1: super or they'll get like uh rude, you know what
- 10:31Speaker 1: I'm saying. They'll get like l like they work with.
- 10:33Speaker 1: Who decides war? Like all the brands that's really the
- 10:36Speaker 1: ones that's making shit move in culture. Who decides war?
- 10:40Speaker 1: Who decides war? Who the white man? Not the white
- 10:47Speaker 1: the white man, his last name is man, the white man,
- 10:52Speaker 1: the white man. Uh yeah, shout out to Puma, Man,
- 10:56Speaker 1: shout out to Puma. So me ask you something, uh
- 10:58Speaker 1: huh when you like collaborate, cause a lot of art
- 11:00Speaker 1: we see do these huge brand deals. Is there like,
- 11:05Speaker 1: is there anything that like you're you? Because because I
- 11:08Speaker 1: feel like you have a very like commercially viable image.
- 11:12Speaker 1: If I'm a brand and I'm like I want to
- 11:13Speaker 1: get somebody who's young, who's you know, tapped into the culture.
- 11:17Speaker 1: But won't you know, fucking I don't know, go on
- 11:20Speaker 1: Instagram live at three in the morning with an ak
- 11:23Speaker 1: forty seven and threaten his ops knowing that you're kind
- 11:26Speaker 1: of that guy. I don't know if that's a compliment.
- 11:29Speaker 1: It is, Okay, of course it is. I know. I'm joking.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Are you like, super like mindful of that when just
- 11:37Speaker 1: moving around like day to day life? Like yo, like
- 11:39Speaker 1: cause you I mean you said that, Uh? I mean
- 11:42Speaker 1: what songs did you dropp last year? We were talking
- 11:44Speaker 1: about was a pepsi that broke your coca cola? So
- 11:48Speaker 1: you're you're doing shit that like a lot of artists
- 11:49Speaker 1: can't do, you know what I mean? Getting getting bags
- 11:52Speaker 1: that a lot of artists can't do. So, like when
- 11:53Speaker 1: you're just thinking about your social media, you're thinking about
- 11:56Speaker 1: just how you move around in the public eye or
- 11:58Speaker 1: stuff you might say an interview use social media. Are
- 12:00Speaker 1: you mindful of that? No? Not really, bro because at
- 12:04Speaker 1: the end of the day, the music is still the
- 12:05Speaker 1: engine that drives it off. Like you can be the
- 12:07Speaker 1: cleanest motherfucker, but like if your music ain't hitting, then
- 12:12Speaker 1: or if it's or you're not connecting with the people,
- 12:14Speaker 1: then that ship, that opportunity doesn't exist. So I just
- 12:17Speaker 1: I just like to be myself, bro, And I've never
- 12:19Speaker 1: just been a gun slinging ass Nigga. I own guns
- 12:21Speaker 1: several actually that you should with a license. You chect yourself. Cute.
- 12:24Speaker 1: I got endless guns. You know what I'm saying, it's
- 12:26Speaker 1: all super illegal. But I say this super illegal, no
- 12:30Speaker 1: super legal. Super you got super illegal, no super legal.
- 12:33Speaker 1: I got what you got. I got got Drake Nigga,
- 12:35Speaker 1: I got Draco's, I got all types of ship legally.
- 12:37Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Where do you live? If
- 12:40Speaker 1: you live at the No, no, no, Georgia, Georgia, Georgia.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Okay you you got it all then yeah yeah yeah
- 12:47Speaker 1: you're Georgia South with it. Yeah, like I say, if
- 12:49Speaker 1: you're here, no, no, no, that's not legal. You got
- 12:51Speaker 1: a good league. Yeah, I got send me all those
- 12:52Speaker 1: all that. Hey, that's good though. Let people know they
- 12:56Speaker 1: can't you know, not that I don't have any. Are
- 12:58Speaker 1: some me all those legal in the South? I can't.
- 13:00Speaker 1: I don't know. He would know his fully automatics are
- 13:05Speaker 1: illegal everywhere, correct, everywhere. Yes, Yeah, I don't know he
- 13:11Speaker 1: would know because he's yeah I thought so. Yeah, but
- 13:16Speaker 1: yeah I got I got hell of ship bro in
- 13:17Speaker 1: the South. Yeah. I fucking this guy right here was
- 13:20Speaker 1: logging into my YouTube channel on our company laptop. Besides
- 13:24Speaker 1: the fucked up porn history that popped up in my
- 13:26Speaker 1: Google Internet, yeah, absolutely, my YouTube algorithm was just about
- 13:30Speaker 1: machine guns and handguns. And I was like, what the
- 13:33Speaker 1: fuck is going on because this fucking Second Amendment ass
- 13:37Speaker 1: motherfucker over here searching how to take apart handguns and
- 13:40Speaker 1: ship But I digress. But they're strapped up, Yeah, exactly.
- 13:45Speaker 1: But the point is that I just I'm not never,
- 13:49Speaker 1: not gonna be myself Bro for the sake of a brand,
- 13:51Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying though, for the sake of
- 13:53Speaker 1: But I turned down millions and millions of dollars Bro
- 13:56Speaker 1: because it's like it's a brand that's kind of like
- 13:58Speaker 1: off brand for me as a person, because it's like,
- 14:01Speaker 1: I'm not trying to just start selling ball clippers. You
- 14:04Speaker 1: know what I'm say. I'm going to ask you. Don't
- 14:06Speaker 1: tell me the company, but tell me the genre of
- 14:08Speaker 1: bag you turned down. Is it an energy drink? Is
- 14:10Speaker 1: it ball Clippers and it wasn't ball Clippers that. But
- 14:13Speaker 1: but like, what give me like something that you've turned down?
- 14:15Speaker 1: Just the industry. You don't gotta tell me what company
- 14:17Speaker 1: was big as I turned down huge features because the artists,
- 14:21Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, they like do like one hundred million
- 14:24Speaker 1: monthly streams, but I just don't like the song and
- 14:27Speaker 1: it might not be the best business decision, but it's
- 14:29Speaker 1: just like, yo, I'm still an artist at the end
- 14:31Speaker 1: of the day, and I try to just move with
- 14:32Speaker 1: my heart. And it sounds fucking cliche and all this shit,
- 14:35Speaker 1: but it's the guys down the store. I try to
- 14:37Speaker 1: just move with my feeling, you know. But so it's
- 14:40Speaker 1: the same with what about a brand? What kind of brand?
- 14:42Speaker 1: What's what's the brand deal you turned down? What's a
- 14:44Speaker 1: brand deal with? Yeah, a clothing brand? You gotta be
- 14:48Speaker 1: more specific than that, is give me okay, let's just
- 14:53Speaker 1: say a clothing brand I've turned that. Boozy wanted to
- 14:55Speaker 1: come and have you bring back Jewel House clothing. He
- 14:57Speaker 1: has a I rock that for years. You remember your
- 15:02Speaker 1: house fight dt L all all over the country gap? Yeah,
- 15:09Speaker 1: he said before you said no the gap is this
- 15:11Speaker 1: before Kanye I didn't. I don't know before right when
- 15:16Speaker 1: it was yeah no on the gap, Yeah were gap?
- 15:21Speaker 1: Except yeah? But I know, yeah, hit you right now
- 15:27Speaker 1: he's gone through some sort of you know, spiritual reawakening.
- 15:30Speaker 1: He fucked up. You know, he's trying to bring back Easy. Hey,
- 15:33Speaker 1: pray pray for ya, man, pray for ya. Hypothetically he
- 15:36Speaker 1: kitched you, Cordy. I fucked up, man, I'm sorry. I
- 15:41Speaker 1: gotta get this Easy ship back popping. Would you like
- 15:43Speaker 1: to be the face of the new season? I might.
- 15:45Speaker 1: I'm gonna think about that ship. Yeah, I'm gonna think
- 15:48Speaker 1: about it. I'm gonna give him some serious consideration. Absolutely,
- 15:51Speaker 1: I just gotta see, you know, what the designs look like.
- 15:53Speaker 1: But I ain't gonna be like, oh no, because everybody
- 15:56Speaker 1: else is on some can't you know? I agree whatever
- 15:59Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a death. We consider it highly Yeah,
- 16:01Speaker 1: I mean, I think, and that's one of the forefathers,
- 16:04Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So he is. He is
- 16:06Speaker 1: one of the forefathers, in my opinion, the best discography
- 16:09Speaker 1: and rap history. Highly. Yes, you you can put a
- 16:13Speaker 1: good ass argument on that, A good ass I think
- 16:15Speaker 1: it's Kanye whole. But I think Yay's got more class
- 16:21Speaker 1: like certified, like undeniable classics. But hos up there. But
- 16:23Speaker 1: I also think okay outcast, Yeah, for sure, o't cast,
- 16:27Speaker 1: they don't miss Okay Kanye Okay, college drop out, late legislation, graduate, graduation.
- 16:34Speaker 1: All three classics, yeah, all three of classics. Eight classic
- 16:37Speaker 1: because it's yeah, yeah, my beautiful, my beautiful, dark twist
- 16:42Speaker 1: of fantasy. That's file classic. Then we're going yes, which,
- 16:44Speaker 1: in my opinion is I think Jesus it's I think
- 16:49Speaker 1: you're confusing. I could be. I think you're not confusing.
- 16:51Speaker 1: I think influential. Don't mean it's a classic. No, I
- 16:55Speaker 1: actually think Jesus personally, for me, I love so I
- 16:58Speaker 1: don't know to it's crazy. I don't think it's in
- 17:00Speaker 1: consensus hip hop classic Okay, I think it's like for
- 17:04Speaker 1: me personally, Okay, it's a classic. I got albums that
- 17:06Speaker 1: I'm like, it's a classic to me, But that don't
- 17:07Speaker 1: mean it's a classic to everybody you know for sure.
- 17:09Speaker 1: But going back to the original point, just because I'm
- 17:12Speaker 1: trying to get my thought off my bet if I
- 17:14Speaker 1: cut you off of just like I'm I can't be
- 17:17Speaker 1: a slave to the brand Bro, I say no to
- 17:19Speaker 1: ninety five percent of incoming brands and feature everything. Bro,
- 17:23Speaker 1: it just gotta be like whether I do a song,
- 17:25Speaker 1: I gotta like really fuck with the song or that person,
- 17:27Speaker 1: no matter how big or small they are, you know
- 17:29Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If it's like a brand, it just
- 17:31Speaker 1: gotta be on brand with who I am as a
- 17:33Speaker 1: human being. Like Puma do Hella like community outreach shit,
- 17:36Speaker 1: They do Hella charitable shit. They do Hella like give
- 17:40Speaker 1: back stuff. And I used to wear Pumas in middle
- 17:42Speaker 1: school because we used to wear uniforms in a public
- 17:45Speaker 1: school and we had to wear all black sneakers, so
- 17:47Speaker 1: I would have one the Pumas. They're affordable, So I
- 17:49Speaker 1: really fuck with Puma. So that's why I rock with Puma.
- 17:52Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They got plenty of Pumas
- 17:54Speaker 1: in my closet. That's it. A lot more Jordans, but
- 17:57Speaker 1: we're gonna change that for court Ay, thank you sir.
- 17:59Speaker 1: When we'll see something, well, something I need to buy
- 18:02Speaker 1: some high level pullmas is on the way for you,
- 18:03Speaker 1: high level Pumas. How's the high level thing going? It's
- 18:05Speaker 1: going great. We just need more artists, so how Does
- 18:08Speaker 1: that work for you because you're obviously in full artist mode. Yeah,
- 18:11Speaker 1: you have a lot of personal life developments happening that
- 18:13Speaker 1: are life changing. Yeah, do you have time to even
- 18:15Speaker 1: search for artists? Yeah, it just got to be the
- 18:18Speaker 1: one that I It's all about feeling, bro, just because
- 18:20Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I can sleep at
- 18:22Speaker 1: night if I turn down a certain amount of bread
- 18:24Speaker 1: or a brand or a feature whatever, if I know,
- 18:27Speaker 1: like I just went with what my heart felt, you
- 18:29Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, or what I really love or
- 18:31Speaker 1: what moved me. So it's kind of the same with artists, bro,
- 18:34Speaker 1: because I don't want to just sign artists just to
- 18:35Speaker 1: sign them. I want to just have the model of
- 18:37Speaker 1: like just have a few artists and we really like
- 18:40Speaker 1: push behind them and I'm able to give them the
- 18:42Speaker 1: stuff that I've learned, even though I'm still fucking I
- 18:44Speaker 1: fuck up a lot, Like I'm a fuck up bro
- 18:47Speaker 1: for sure, but I can acknowledge that and I just
- 18:49Speaker 1: keep moving, you know what I'm saying. That's my goal.
- 18:52Speaker 1: So and just you know, with Ace and the whole team,
- 18:55Speaker 1: like pushing behind them. So just getting a couple of artists,
- 18:58Speaker 1: you know, because if you turn down a deal. That's
- 19:01Speaker 1: nobody lose a sleepover that. If you signed somebody and
- 19:04Speaker 1: you don't do justice by them, that's a human being.
- 19:06Speaker 1: That's a human being that's responsible. But when you sign
- 19:11Speaker 1: an artist, you're kind of not even kind of you're
- 19:14Speaker 1: responsible for that person. Yo. So you did a Ted
- 19:16Speaker 1: talk that was like the biggest Ted talk of the year.
- 19:18Speaker 1: YEA was that very Uh were you nervous preparing for
- 19:23Speaker 1: that because that's a big deal to do it? Yeah, Bro,
- 19:25Speaker 1: I was off. That's one of them shroom nights. Bro.
- 19:27Speaker 1: Like when I had that bad, I was like, fuck,
- 19:28Speaker 1: I got this Ted talk to do next week. Word
- 19:32Speaker 1: that wasn't the mayor. It was a fucking It was
- 19:35Speaker 1: a bunch of shit, bro, A bunch of shit. It
- 19:37Speaker 1: was a lot of ship. But going back to the
- 19:40Speaker 1: Ted talk, hmmm, I am that was something I wanted
- 19:47Speaker 1: to do because I'm like, Yo, it's just some cool ship.
- 19:49Speaker 1: And then when they actually reached out, I was like, yeah,
- 19:51Speaker 1: we want Cordiator to do a tech I'm like, oh shit,
- 19:52Speaker 1: I didn't know, So what's the question again? Just like
- 19:57Speaker 1: talking about preparing for that, like, you know, that's a
- 19:59Speaker 1: big speech to write. A lot of I wrote a
- 20:01Speaker 1: speech and then I sent it over to Ted Talk
- 20:04Speaker 1: and they had like certain notes about it. And then
- 20:06Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, like I don't like what the they
- 20:10Speaker 1: sent me, like, you know, edit notes like this is cool,
- 20:12Speaker 1: but this ain't. And so I kind of started panicking
- 20:14Speaker 1: because I'm like, I just want to write what I
- 20:16Speaker 1: want to write, and so I just end up just
- 20:17Speaker 1: doing that. I just ignored their notes and just deal
- 20:20Speaker 1: with it. Was the biggest one, and it was the
- 20:23Speaker 1: biggest one. You gotta do another one, no, not no
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- 24:23Speaker 1: been because I think that the number one thing artists
- 24:26Speaker 1: have an issue with you mentioned it earlier is somebody
- 24:29Speaker 1: could get a TikTok moment m hm, but it doesn't
- 24:31Speaker 1: mean they have fans. Yeah, right, you have done a
- 24:34Speaker 1: good job of like developing a fan base. Thank you.
- 24:36Speaker 1: What is the hardest part about like connecting with the
- 24:40Speaker 1: people and making them give a fuck about you? Huh.
- 24:44Speaker 1: Just it's gonna sound cliche, but I think it's just
- 24:46Speaker 1: being yourself, bro, and not just giving the fuck about
- 24:49Speaker 1: Like the numbers, you know what I'm saying. Like even
- 24:50Speaker 1: like with my last album, I think it's because I
- 24:52Speaker 1: dropped at the top of the year. I did twenty
- 24:54Speaker 1: four k first week. Everybody reported at twenty I'm not
- 24:56Speaker 1: gonna tweet and be like, no, Nigga ain't do twenty
- 24:58Speaker 1: I did twenty four K, but whatever. So I did
- 25:00Speaker 1: twenty four K, but I sold out ninety percent of
- 25:04Speaker 1: a world tour in venues that's way bigger than motherfuckers
- 25:07Speaker 1: that do triple the numbers that I do, right, you
- 25:09Speaker 1: geel what I'm saying. So, what's the point of doing
- 25:11Speaker 1: one hundred K first week if you can't sell out
- 25:13Speaker 1: the Novo you know what I'm saying, or certain venues
- 25:17Speaker 1: that I'm doing me as a with my little twenty
- 25:20Speaker 1: four k, and I'm doing triple the venues, and those
- 25:22Speaker 1: people also aren't turning down million dollar deals nah, for
- 25:25Speaker 1: sure on a tens on conscious album, by the way,
- 25:27Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I say this to
- 25:29Speaker 1: say it's all about like what connects, you know, just
- 25:32Speaker 1: making music from your heart that relates to a certain
- 25:35Speaker 1: demographic or not even demographic, a certain niche people who
- 25:39Speaker 1: are who just whoever is for. I'm I'm kind of
- 25:41Speaker 1: at the place right now where I'm like, yo, bro,
- 25:43Speaker 1: I just wanna make music. It's trans with this new
- 25:46Speaker 1: shit I'm doing, Bro, I'm just more transparent than ever ever,
- 25:50Speaker 1: more vulnerable than ever, more honest than ever. And whoever
- 25:53Speaker 1: that connects to is who's that was meant to connect to.
- 25:55Speaker 1: And if it didn't connect to them, I meant and
- 25:57Speaker 1: if that doesn't connect to whoever, then it's not for
- 26:00Speaker 1: you production wise? Who's on the new album? Because you've
- 26:03Speaker 1: we've seen you in the studio with the Who's who?
- 26:06Speaker 1: I want to say you were in with Dre and
- 26:07Speaker 1: we didn't We haven't heard, but that sounds like yeah, yeah,
- 26:10Speaker 1: I mean so it says that's like the same story
- 26:12Speaker 1: for like a million other artists. Yeah, everyone's like, yo,
- 26:15Speaker 1: I was in with Dre. I'm like, can we hear
- 26:16Speaker 1: the music? Hey, I'm happy with my flick. I'm happy
- 26:19Speaker 1: with you got mom flick my mom got that ship
- 26:21Speaker 1: framed and should But who's Who's got beats on the album?
- 26:26Speaker 1: F n Z not sure if you ever heard of them?
- 26:27Speaker 1: They're super cold at l Jacob my boy, Illy Holler,
- 26:34Speaker 1: he's super tight. Who else? I can't think are you
- 26:40Speaker 1: doing any production? Oh? Bongo bongo super hard T minus
- 26:46Speaker 1: nice little lineup? Yeah cool little you know, Avenger Squad.
- 26:49Speaker 1: What do we gotta do to get you in the studio?
- 26:52Speaker 1: With the Alchemist. Oh, I did ship with Alchemists. We did.
- 26:55Speaker 1: I'm trying to yo me and Alchemists will make a
- 26:57Speaker 1: fire ass collab. You can take you a whole album. Yeah,
- 27:00Speaker 1: I'm down for that all the way. Is that like
- 27:02Speaker 1: because you're on You're on Atlantic Records, so like it's
- 27:05Speaker 1: probably a little bit more difficult for you to be like,
- 27:07Speaker 1: I want to do a fucking album with the Alchemist
- 27:09Speaker 1: because now, because I was just paying myself, that's fair.
- 27:13Speaker 1: Not that he'll even I don't even know what that
- 27:15Speaker 1: will be because my argument, I paid for the beats.
- 27:18Speaker 1: What do you I would love for you to do
- 27:19Speaker 1: like a fool, even if it's not the Alchemist, just
- 27:21Speaker 1: like one producer. Nah, for sure, I'm definitely like, that's
- 27:25Speaker 1: one of my goals this year to drop a couple
- 27:27Speaker 1: of those, like one from Alchemists, one with this artist,
- 27:29Speaker 1: but Alchemists definitely at beside the Alchemist's house. Well, just
- 27:32Speaker 1: me and that producer Metro would be super tight. I
- 27:36Speaker 1: don't really I never met this nigga though, Yeah, I
- 27:39Speaker 1: never met an album. Yeah, so great that thug first
- 27:42Speaker 1: free Free Thug. I love the transition, he said. Every
- 27:46Speaker 1: time we make it rain. It's a thunderstoring crazy. You know,
- 27:49Speaker 1: the transition from that record into the future interlude afterwards. Yeah,
- 27:53Speaker 1: I'm freaking, I'm geeking. That's just that's that's that's not
- 27:57Speaker 1: any album. Metro is a culture curator. He's amazing. He's awesome.
- 28:01Speaker 1: I think he's like I was thinking about this the
- 28:04Speaker 1: other day, right because if we think about like, I
- 28:06Speaker 1: think his new album is probably and this might be
- 28:09Speaker 1: Recncy biased, but it feels like the best hip hop compilation.
- 28:13Speaker 1: I'm glad you Recncy bias is the real thing. It is.
- 28:15Speaker 1: But I'm like, when I'm listening to this new metro
- 28:17Speaker 1: Booming album, I'm like, I'm not sure anyone has really
- 28:19Speaker 1: ever done a better compilation, Like cal has never made
- 28:23Speaker 1: an album better than that. Are we going down the
- 28:25Speaker 1: line whoever's got compilation albums? You know what I'm saying.
- 28:27Speaker 1: I just feel like this metro Booming album he purposely
- 28:29Speaker 1: like built it around this cast of guys. Now he
- 28:33Speaker 1: did that. He took drake off of one of the
- 28:35Speaker 1: songs who take a break off. He did it for
- 28:37Speaker 1: the art. It's fucking crazy. Yes, we gotta get you
- 28:40Speaker 1: a metro boomer in Nah that'd be crazy fuck somebody
- 28:43Speaker 1: who you worked with. Yeah, obviously he's in a tough situation.
- 28:48Speaker 1: Uh for young Thug. That was on one of your
- 28:52Speaker 1: kind of like holdover. Uh he does justin till ep
- 28:56Speaker 1: Me and Thug got another joint in the can that
- 28:58Speaker 1: I love a lot, that I actually like more to
- 29:00Speaker 1: and What's Up. But What's Up just fit that. Uh,
- 29:01Speaker 1: that that project a little bit better because I needed
- 29:04Speaker 1: some tempo. But Thug man real one. Bro. He's always
- 29:08Speaker 1: there whenever I need, like any advice, you know what
- 29:11Speaker 1: I'm saying, whenever I needed anything. But he's just super genuine.
- 29:14Speaker 1: You guys recorded those together. Yeah, we recorded both of
- 29:16Speaker 1: them together. What's his process compared to yours? Like, Man,
- 29:19Speaker 1: I gotta I can't write when I'm with him because
- 29:21Speaker 1: he does everything off the top. So I'm like, fucking
- 29:23Speaker 1: I gotta do the same shit. But even if I
- 29:25Speaker 1: were to like write some stuff, he's patient, he's with whatever,
- 29:29Speaker 1: like with whatever. But I try to just keep up
- 29:31Speaker 1: with him. That's my goal, to just keep up at
- 29:33Speaker 1: the pace he records, but still come up with some
- 29:35Speaker 1: cold shit right hard. You've been with a lot of
- 29:37Speaker 1: artists who's got the fastest pace writing or recording thug thug. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 29:46Speaker 1: that's fair. Who's on the new album? Besides, we got
- 29:48Speaker 1: the new Anderson? But you and Anderson should do a
- 29:50Speaker 1: new album together, by the way, like yeah, like like
- 29:52Speaker 1: do like a ten pack. Yeah, that'd be crazy. Nah,
- 29:55Speaker 1: it'll be. And you know what, it's because I think
- 29:57Speaker 1: our chemistry on record is is so good. Because he's
- 30:00Speaker 1: really like one of my best friends. I don't have
- 30:01Speaker 1: too many friends. He's a great guy. He's one of
- 30:03Speaker 1: my best friends for real. And so so Anderson's on
- 30:07Speaker 1: the album. Who else? I'm not quite sure yet, And
- 30:10Speaker 1: I don't want to say a name just because they
- 30:13Speaker 1: might not make it or that song may not make
- 30:15Speaker 1: it in a grand scheme. But I'll let you know.
- 30:18Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be you don't know one other
- 30:20Speaker 1: for sure, No, I don't. I swear you know the
- 30:23Speaker 1: album coming out. I don't know what's the name of
- 30:26Speaker 1: the album. I don't know. It's just an idea. I'm sorry,
- 30:32Speaker 1: is it coming out? And is it coming out by
- 30:33Speaker 1: the summertime? Yeah? This shit okay? And you don't have
- 30:36Speaker 1: to fucking name yet. Just tell me. I'd rather not
- 30:38Speaker 1: say no. I'm dead ass. You don't know the name. No,
- 30:41Speaker 1: I'm dead ass. You could just look at me and
- 30:42Speaker 1: be like, you know what, Bro, I'd rather not say.
- 30:45Speaker 1: I would rather not I don't know for sure. I
- 30:48Speaker 1: don't know for sure. That's my answer, Like, I know
- 30:50Speaker 1: the name what I'm thinking of, but it ain't that.
- 30:54Speaker 1: I don't want to sit here and promote a name
- 30:56Speaker 1: that ain't the name. No more. Was there Averse on
- 30:58Speaker 1: this new album that you know the name of Averse?
- 31:01Speaker 1: That song that you felt like you might have got
- 31:03Speaker 1: bodied on Averse? Averse? I'm just now I'm fishing for
- 31:07Speaker 1: guests rapper versus. Do you think there's somebody on your
- 31:10Speaker 1: new album that might have bodied you on the song
- 31:13Speaker 1: or came close or made you be like ooh that
- 31:15Speaker 1: was close. Damn No, no like that. So what you're
- 31:20Speaker 1: saying is everyone gave me throwaway verses on your album. Nah,
- 31:23Speaker 1: niggas ain't do that, niggas. No, na, Nah, it's not
- 31:27Speaker 1: too many feet. I literally got like two features, So
- 31:29Speaker 1: you do know you have features, but they're not a lot. Bro. Listen,
- 31:32Speaker 1: you know I don't like to say the feature into
- 31:35Speaker 1: that paperwork. I'm kind of a jinx right, Like, if
- 31:38Speaker 1: we're both walking and it's a pole, we ain't splitting
- 31:41Speaker 1: that poll. Okay, you know what I'm saying. If it's
- 31:43Speaker 1: a crack on the floor, I ain't stepping on that.
- 31:44Speaker 1: Don't step on crack, you know what I'm saying. Just
- 31:46Speaker 1: smoke it. It is as I say, it's very hard
- 31:48Speaker 1: in La did and I step on some sort of
- 31:50Speaker 1: crack somewhere. It's everywhere or it's more fetanol. Absolutely, But
- 31:55Speaker 1: shout out to that fatty watch I mean, speaking of
- 31:57Speaker 1: shout out, damn fuck that shit. Crazy. I wonder Fedi
- 32:00Speaker 1: wap knew when he named himself that that there would
- 32:02Speaker 1: be a drug like named after him, like eight years later.
- 32:05Speaker 1: You know, that was like the most deadly shit ever.
- 32:06Speaker 1: That's like killing all half of the country. Pretty crazy, Hey, obviously,
- 32:12Speaker 1: very tragic. Let's switch speeds. Okay, very tragic situation happened.
- 32:15Speaker 1: Happened in Memphis. Yeah, the young man who got killed
- 32:18Speaker 1: by the five police officers. You were very much you
- 32:22Speaker 1: got arrested protesting during the pandemic after the George Floyd thing,
- 32:27Speaker 1: which was for Breonna Taylor, or it was for Breonna Taylor.
- 32:30Speaker 1: But but I feel like that whole time, just the
- 32:34Speaker 1: pandemic just is all mushed together. Yeah, and I think
- 32:37Speaker 1: it was a blessing in the sense of like it
- 32:40Speaker 1: really gave light to things that just always are happening.
- 32:44Speaker 1: But because everybody was just standing still and not doing anything,
- 32:48Speaker 1: it's like, no, this is just clearly super fucked up
- 32:51Speaker 1: and it keeps going on. So I think it kind
- 32:53Speaker 1: of helped highlight and catapult the movie. I was gonna
- 32:55Speaker 1: ask you, like, obviously, protesting it's something that moves the
- 33:02Speaker 1: needle because it forces people to see the ugly. Yeah,
- 33:07Speaker 1: two years removed from that, what are the things that
- 33:09Speaker 1: you're kind of doing or involved in that are you
- 33:12Speaker 1: know kind of that isn't necessarily on camera. I think
- 33:17Speaker 1: it's just one step at a time, right, And it's
- 33:19Speaker 1: just like whether it be just donating to the right
- 33:22Speaker 1: cause it's talk trying to talk to the people who
- 33:25Speaker 1: are in power to try to get it done. And
- 33:28Speaker 1: I can do a lot more, you know, it's still
- 33:30Speaker 1: everybody here. Yeah, for sure, it's what I don't want
- 33:32Speaker 1: to sit here and act like a Marcus Garvey, you know,
- 33:34Speaker 1: or whoever the case may be. But I think it's
- 33:39Speaker 1: talking to the I don't know. I actually don't know
- 33:41Speaker 1: the answers. Honestly, I just don't know. But we can.
- 33:43Speaker 1: It's obvious it's a fucking problem. It's obvious. It's a
- 33:46Speaker 1: big fucking problem. But I think it's the step that's
- 33:48Speaker 1: talking to the people that's in position. I think the
- 33:50Speaker 1: police broth. You know, the original police were slave hunters.
- 33:56Speaker 1: Like actually, like the original police. It's a real this
- 33:58Speaker 1: ain't shit. I'm just made like the original police. So
- 34:01Speaker 1: the infrastructure is just fucked up because the same morals
- 34:06Speaker 1: and values of the original police officers were for slave hunters.
- 34:09Speaker 1: So now two hundred however many odd eighteen five, so
- 34:14Speaker 1: two hundred plus years since slavery was abolished, even in
- 34:18Speaker 1: the reconstruction era, Like, sorry for the history lesson, and
- 34:23Speaker 1: I also want to make sure I'm yeah so boom
- 34:27Speaker 1: so I said to say, the original police were slave hunters.
- 34:30Speaker 1: So now that ship turned into this police construct that
- 34:33Speaker 1: we have now, and a lot of the same morales
- 34:36Speaker 1: and principalities are just embedded within the system. So that's
- 34:40Speaker 1: why it's disproportionate. Yeah, it's it's it's it's like, if
- 34:46Speaker 1: the system is broken, how do you tear it down?
- 34:49Speaker 1: And rebuild it. Yeah, you know what I mean, because
- 34:52Speaker 1: if you think about the Memphis thing, it's like it's
- 34:53Speaker 1: a police thing. Like it's like these cops are like
- 34:56Speaker 1: there there, it's the it's the institution even no matter
- 34:59Speaker 1: what color. You know what I'm saying. Black police is
- 35:02Speaker 1: just did something like that, you know what I'm saying.
- 35:04Speaker 1: So it's the institution that they're a part of, because
- 35:06Speaker 1: the origins of the institution comes from racism. So this
- 35:13Speaker 1: new project, because I feel like album number one you
- 35:17Speaker 1: get the Grammy nomination. I actually liked your second album more,
- 35:19Speaker 1: thank you, you know, and I just thought it was
- 35:24Speaker 1: I thought it was more focused. I agree, I agree,
- 35:29Speaker 1: it was more. My second album was more from It
- 35:34Speaker 1: was more polished, Like the lyricisms is better, the songwriting
- 35:38Speaker 1: was better. The construction of the album, like the sequencing
- 35:42Speaker 1: of it was better. I think it didn't connect at
- 35:45Speaker 1: the level that I wanted to because it wasn't as
- 35:47Speaker 1: transparent and vulnerable. That's just my opinion. So this album,
- 35:53Speaker 1: we don't even know what's going to be on the album. Yeah,
- 35:55Speaker 1: we don't know. We including me, you're gonna be on
- 35:58Speaker 1: the album? That'd be some weird flex metro it ain't
- 36:02Speaker 1: even on my own album. I got everybody, Yeah, that
- 36:04Speaker 1: ain't it, And I need my puck. Like you said earlier,
- 36:07Speaker 1: you're pretty much just like Yo, I'm doing what's true
- 36:10Speaker 1: to me at this moment, and whoever it connects to,
- 36:11Speaker 1: who it's for absolutely, do you give a fuck though
- 36:14Speaker 1: about Because when you come out the gate with a
- 36:16Speaker 1: Grammy nomination, that's a pretty wild fucking thing to do. No,
- 36:19Speaker 1: it's only like eight of us who like debut like
- 36:21Speaker 1: debut album nomination. Yeah, it's got to be a gifted.
- 36:25Speaker 1: The curse too, because now you're looked at it a
- 36:26Speaker 1: certain light where it's like, well, if you can first
- 36:28Speaker 1: I've got the Grammy nomination, you're gonna do it this
- 36:30Speaker 1: next one. Do you let that pressure get to you
- 36:33Speaker 1: or do you think about it or let it psy
- 36:34Speaker 1: like you out at all? Nah? Bro, because I never
- 36:36Speaker 1: I was never like the hottest nigga out when I
- 36:39Speaker 1: first came out. It's always for me, it's just been
- 36:41Speaker 1: like Booker, Blooker, Blooka, Blooker, Blooker, blooker. So it's been
- 36:46Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a weird noise, but whatever,
- 36:48Speaker 1: I get it. But it's kind of just been steps
- 36:50Speaker 1: at the step. But bro, I've only been in the game.
- 36:53Speaker 1: There'll be four years since my first album, five years
- 36:55Speaker 1: since I like people started to know my name and
- 36:57Speaker 1: know my music and shit, and and so five years
- 37:01Speaker 1: since King Kung Fu came out? Be five years in July?
- 37:04Speaker 1: What year did I already see? So I've already seen
- 37:06Speaker 1: so many artists just come and go. With this small five,
- 37:09Speaker 1: it would be the artist that was the hottest. And
- 37:11Speaker 1: I'm not saying no names because it's respect. As long
- 37:13Speaker 1: as they able to feed their families, change their family lives,
- 37:16Speaker 1: it's love. They still won. They still win as rap
- 37:19Speaker 1: as the lottery. So any level of scess you could
- 37:22Speaker 1: you could achieve, fucking is better than the rapper pool.
- 37:26Speaker 1: Absolutely sure. So I said, I've done seen so many
- 37:29Speaker 1: artists come and go. So I know for a fact
- 37:31Speaker 1: I'm being able to make music at the highest level
- 37:33Speaker 1: for the next twenty years and still be able to
- 37:35Speaker 1: make a great living for the next twenty years off music.
- 37:37Speaker 1: I'm not worried about that. It's just about how high
- 37:39Speaker 1: am I gonna take? You? How high can I take
- 37:41Speaker 1: this ship? And every year I've been leveling up and
- 37:43Speaker 1: I've been able to see this literally from my first tour,
- 37:46Speaker 1: I did five hundred cap rooms. My second tour, I
- 37:49Speaker 1: did one thousand cap rooms. My last tour, I did
- 37:51Speaker 1: two thousand cap rooms, you know, And that's where I
- 37:54Speaker 1: kind of base my success that versus first week. These
- 37:57Speaker 1: are real humans, it, Bro, that's a real fan because
- 38:00Speaker 1: they had to leave their house, get a babysitter, maybe
- 38:03Speaker 1: buy a ticket, right fucking get dropped off by their parents,
- 38:06Speaker 1: get dropped, call a uber, take a shower, put on
- 38:09Speaker 1: some fresh shit, didn't wait in line, no matter what
- 38:12Speaker 1: the weather or not. Put on some fresh shit exactly
- 38:15Speaker 1: to see you do what you love. You know what
- 38:17Speaker 1: I'm saying versus like a number that can be skewed
- 38:20Speaker 1: or falsified. Yeah, a lot of these fucking streams are fake,
- 38:23Speaker 1: a lot of them. I mean, I would venture to say, sorry, Dwight,
- 38:30Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent of these major label fucking artists,
- 38:32Speaker 1: there's some sort of fucking little tick on the fucking
- 38:35Speaker 1: numbers going on. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it, bro. And
- 38:38Speaker 1: the thing is, it's like I was saying, like, I
- 38:41Speaker 1: don't it don't bother me, And I'm not just saying
- 38:42Speaker 1: that because some shit does bother me. I'm a human
- 38:44Speaker 1: fucking being. Bro. I got feelings in the motion, But
- 38:46Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me with this because I'm seeing real
- 38:48Speaker 1: life wins when I'm doing a sold out tour, you
- 38:51Speaker 1: know what I mean. And that's that's that's the real
- 38:53Speaker 1: shit that matters. So even when you're selling merch and
- 38:56Speaker 1: you're you know, people are supporting you with their where
- 38:58Speaker 1: they're that's the shit that d differentiate somebody who can
- 39:02Speaker 1: catch a record, catch a moment, and there's somebody who
- 39:04Speaker 1: can have longevity and pay their bills and sh you know,
- 39:07Speaker 1: and open up a club and turn down million dollars
- 39:11Speaker 1: deals from the gap. Absolutely never was a gap guy myself,
- 39:15Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't even know that. It didn't even
- 39:17Speaker 1: make it. It didn't even make it back to me.
- 39:19Speaker 1: You should yell at him for that, now, that's cool.
- 39:21Speaker 1: I'd like to know if the gap was knocking. I
- 39:24Speaker 1: never knew that, honestly, what's up? You're gonn tell me
- 39:27Speaker 1: about the gap that never came across my table? Really never, damn.
- 39:31Speaker 1: I didn't know. But I say that to say, that's
- 39:32Speaker 1: the stuff that don't don't even come to me that
- 39:35Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I say this to say,
- 39:37Speaker 1: like I say no to a lot of shit, Bro,
- 39:38Speaker 1: I just like to do what I'm passionate about, what's
- 39:41Speaker 1: on brand for me as a human being, or what
- 39:43Speaker 1: I love to do. Things I'm passionate about things I love.
- 39:46Speaker 1: So it's cool, bro. Also, Yo, how did I not
- 39:49Speaker 1: make your top ten list last shit? Bro? It's cool?
- 39:51Speaker 1: On the which top ten list? Top ten rappers or
- 39:53Speaker 1: top ten albums? Damn both. I ain't making me kid,
- 39:58Speaker 1: It's cool, by the way, I just I'm not feelings
- 40:00Speaker 1: about it. I'm just asking. I mean, I just didn't.
- 40:02Speaker 1: I didn't think you had. I mean it was a
- 40:03Speaker 1: good year last year. I didn't think he had a
- 40:05Speaker 1: top ten album last year. I think you had about
- 40:06Speaker 1: a top twenty. Okay, I respect that. And on the
- 40:09Speaker 1: rapping shit, I just think the wrapping list was tough, man,
- 40:12Speaker 1: because there was a lot of Brodzer. There was a
- 40:15Speaker 1: lot of rapping this nigga kevo. I didn't put ransom
- 40:21Speaker 1: on my list. Listen, I did pay thirty eight specials too, though,
- 40:25Speaker 1: because thirty eight specih was on five. You don't know
- 40:28Speaker 1: thirty eight species trust Come on, bruh, Come on, bruh,
- 40:32Speaker 1: what you gotta do some shit with her? What a
- 40:35Speaker 1: lot of hey, listen, a lot of love to everybody, bro,
- 40:37Speaker 1: I'm not I just I didn't even know until he
- 40:39Speaker 1: told me. Like, yo, you know he told me right
- 40:40Speaker 1: before we walked in. You know you ain't make kid
- 40:42Speaker 1: top ten. Yeah. A lot of people didn't make my
- 40:45Speaker 1: top ten list. That are my friends. Benny the Busher
- 40:47Speaker 1: didn't make the top ten list. I think Conway, you
- 40:49Speaker 1: might have snuck in. I don't think he did, though,
- 40:51Speaker 1: I actually don't think he did. He might have. But
- 40:55Speaker 1: there was a lot of rappers that did not make
- 40:57Speaker 1: the top ten list because I put guys like my
- 40:59Speaker 1: thing was last year. Like I put a guy like
- 41:01Speaker 1: Simba on the list because Simba did the rapper shit
- 41:04Speaker 1: last year. That motherfucker hit every outlet. He had moments
- 41:08Speaker 1: on these fucking out and he like when I saw Simba,
- 41:10Speaker 1: like yo, I'm trying to make sure y'all see me
- 41:13Speaker 1: as that motherfucker, so I'm gonna go rap everywhere. And
- 41:17Speaker 1: he put out a cool project. Now Simba's mad because
- 41:19Speaker 1: I didn't put this project in the top ten. But
- 41:20Speaker 1: I'd tell him the same thing. Hey, wasn't a top
- 41:23Speaker 1: ten album. Love you You're on my top ten. Hey,
- 41:26Speaker 1: I gotta respect it. Bro. Yeah, okay, what do you
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- 44:40Speaker 1: think the average music consumer wants to be a critic
- 44:46Speaker 1: or like or like wants to be of influence, not like.
- 44:49Speaker 1: I think we're losing a pool of like people that
- 44:52Speaker 1: are just genuine music fans like me, bro, I'm just
- 44:55Speaker 1: a genuine music right. I remember this one artist dropped
- 44:58Speaker 1: the song in a fan were like, Yo, the song
- 45:02Speaker 1: was good, but this mix is asked, like, what the
- 45:04Speaker 1: fuck do you know about a mix? You know what
- 45:05Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think it's too many like you can come.
- 45:07Speaker 1: I think a lot of people like yourself, right, you
- 45:10Speaker 1: can comment on music because you've been You've done the research,
- 45:13Speaker 1: You've been doing this shit for a long time. You've
- 45:15Speaker 1: been around, You've done the research, the history, the knowledge.
- 45:19Speaker 1: Like a lot of these kids be putting out hot
- 45:21Speaker 1: takes and all of this shit, but not for no information.
- 45:24Speaker 1: That's just social media though. Yeah, that's true. So it's
- 45:26Speaker 1: just like everyone has opinion about everything every so it's
- 45:29Speaker 1: not even music. It's like everyone thinks that they're political experts. Yeah,
- 45:32Speaker 1: everybody thinks that they're fucking Skip Bayless or they're fucking
- 45:35Speaker 1: sports that these motherfuckers don't know shit. Like I was
- 45:38Speaker 1: sitting with some Phoenix Suns fans that I'm related to
- 45:42Speaker 1: in Arizona not too long ago, and with a straight face,
- 45:44Speaker 1: they try to tell me that we made the right
- 45:46Speaker 1: decision to draft DeAndre a and over Luka Donks And
- 45:49Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you just don't watch basketball and you're
- 45:50Speaker 1: a fucking loser and never talk to me about sports again.
- 45:53Speaker 1: That was crazy. See, yeah, Christmas, you fuck what is
- 45:56Speaker 1: that nigga? DeAndre ain't doing now? You know, he's just
- 45:58Speaker 1: getting rebounds and you know, not dunking h despite being
- 46:02Speaker 1: seven feet tall. I hope he trade his fucking ass.
- 46:04Speaker 1: God bless him. Hey, black man getting money, I'm proud
- 46:07Speaker 1: of you, doll me too. Let's I'd like to trade
- 46:09Speaker 1: him for another black man getting money A little bit hard.
- 46:15Speaker 1: I'm just saying. Top. Speaking of being music critiques, what's
- 46:18Speaker 1: your top five albums of all time? Of all time? HM?
- 46:23Speaker 1: Is this subjective? Everything? Subjective. I know that's your list,
- 46:27Speaker 1: not the list, your list, uh, top five albums of
- 46:33Speaker 1: all time? Yeah, Marvin Gaye was going on, Okay, let's
- 46:37Speaker 1: do rap albums. Okay, rewind go, that's all rap albums.
- 46:42Speaker 1: Top five The Blueprint. That's one of my favorite albums
- 46:49Speaker 1: of all time. Okay, regardless of Genr's soul, I never
- 46:54Speaker 1: changed every day. This is just so we got the Blueprint.
- 47:06Speaker 1: It ti urban legend. Ooh okay, somebod. That's someone that
- 47:16Speaker 1: had the many fresh shirt of the R right now,
- 47:17Speaker 1: the many fresh hats to Bricotta, he said, he said,
- 47:20Speaker 1: I gotta cheve, he said, he said. I popped tags
- 47:23Speaker 1: on the throw back fast Nigga Please and man knees
- 47:25Speaker 1: when I cut my grass. Mm crazy. I just look
- 47:28Speaker 1: and shit was tight to me. It was written. Ohs okay,
- 47:37Speaker 1: no order obviously, affirmative action, man, affirmative action. Yeah. Oh yeah,
- 47:47Speaker 1: Kanye College drop out. That's four. Then Future Dirty Sprite too,
- 48:06Speaker 1: ooh yes too. It's a very diverse five. Yeah. I
- 48:09Speaker 1: had to bring somebody from the track world, you know
- 48:11Speaker 1: what I'm saying, mm, from all walks of life. That's
- 48:14Speaker 1: top five albums. Just just that, just came up that
- 48:18Speaker 1: I just been listening to recently. He had that Future
- 48:20Speaker 1: twenty fifteen run, twenty fourteen twenty fifteen run. It's kind
- 48:25Speaker 1: of crazy when you think about it, like sifty six
- 48:27Speaker 1: nights Mons. That just fucking it's insane. Yeah, nuts, Yeah,
- 48:31Speaker 1: would you put Future in your top ten all time?
- 48:33Speaker 1: I was just having this conversation like recently with my
- 48:36Speaker 1: boy of this generation of this all time rapper ever
- 48:41Speaker 1: mm mm it's tough. It's tough, bro Y Top ten
- 48:47Speaker 1: is tough, Yeah, tough. He's definitely super legendary. All these
- 48:53Speaker 1: little niggas today sound like him. Everybody everybody sound like
- 48:56Speaker 1: him and thug super influence, super legendary, super pop culture.
- 49:01Speaker 1: Got a classic album? He does? Yeah, longevity reinvented himself.
- 49:10Speaker 1: I think it's like seven to eight categories, right, you
- 49:13Speaker 1: got do they have a classic album? Longevity? Quality of
- 49:18Speaker 1: albums is overall hit records, moments, and influence, how their
- 49:28Speaker 1: peers look at them. Lyricism, of course and bars lyricism
- 49:34Speaker 1: bars at the same thing. Yeah, okay, lyricism. He could
- 49:38Speaker 1: write the fucking shit out of a song a songwriting ability, Yeah, lyricism,
- 49:42Speaker 1: song I would say lyricism and bars to separate because
- 49:45Speaker 1: you can put hooks and lyricism, bars songwriting. Yeah, impact
- 49:49Speaker 1: on pop culture and influence. You talked about having a
- 49:53Speaker 1: classic album. I just went viral on this podcast I
- 49:55Speaker 1: was on because I said that I did not think.
- 49:58Speaker 1: Now this goes back to the com station we had, Yeah,
- 50:01Speaker 1: that there's albums that are classics to me. Yeah, and
- 50:04Speaker 1: I do think each one of these guys have those
- 50:07Speaker 1: for me personally, but in terms of how like consensus
- 50:12Speaker 1: hip hop classics and nobody could say shit about which
- 50:14Speaker 1: of my chronic get Rich of I trying my beautiful
- 50:16Speaker 1: dark twist of fantasy, good Kimas City. I don't think
- 50:18Speaker 1: Drake or j Cole have a classic in that In
- 50:20Speaker 1: that manner, I would disagree heavily. So which one we're
- 50:26Speaker 1: gonna say? Take care in Fourteils Drive, right, I would
- 50:29Speaker 1: go Four Sills Drive for sure, classic album. Bro. I
- 50:31Speaker 1: think even amongst like the like, non negotiable. For sure,
- 50:35Speaker 1: that's a classical album. And I'd agree with that one
- 50:39Speaker 1: over any Drake album. For the rest. Nothing was the
- 50:41Speaker 1: same as a classic album to me, it is. I
- 50:43Speaker 1: think it's his best album for sure. Tusci O look crazy, amazing,
- 50:50Speaker 1: just blaze b too right it is. I don't know.
- 50:54Speaker 1: I wouldn't know honestly. So that's a classic to me.
- 50:58Speaker 1: And I just don't think everyone sees it that way.
- 51:02Speaker 1: Who's everyone though? Who is everyone? I mean, if you
- 51:04Speaker 1: were to take a room full of fucking one hundred
- 51:07Speaker 1: motherfuckers who are somehow you respect their opinion about hip hop?
- 51:12Speaker 1: I don't think everyone would agree with that. I think
- 51:14Speaker 1: everyone would say get Richard Dye Trying is a classic. Yeah,
- 51:17Speaker 1: I don't think there you'd find a soul that'd be like, nah,
- 51:20Speaker 1: you're crazy, you find mockers just to say it, so
- 51:24Speaker 1: you think nothing was the same as a classic? Bro?
- 51:27Speaker 1: To me, it is, yeah, take Care as a classic
- 51:29Speaker 1: to me. I actually like other j co shit more
- 51:34Speaker 1: than Force Hills Drive M. I love cole Man. Shout
- 51:38Speaker 1: out to cole What shout out to you? This new
- 51:40Speaker 1: album you're gonna drop it gonna be a classic. That's
- 51:43Speaker 1: something y'all, man, I want. I'm not gonna say no
- 51:45Speaker 1: shit like that. That's something that people to decide. I
- 51:47Speaker 1: have no Once I put it, it's like once you
- 51:49Speaker 1: put it out there on the earth, bro, it's just
- 51:51Speaker 1: for fucking everybody else to consume and do what they want.
- 51:54Speaker 1: Album coming really soon, really soon. No title two. Rapper
- 51:59Speaker 1: features up Anderson Pack that's one. What State is one
- 52:04Speaker 1: of the rapper features from Chicago? M hm, So you
- 52:09Speaker 1: and Dirk No, see, we ain't gonna I said Chicago
- 52:13Speaker 1: because there's so many dope niggas from Chicago. You in common? No,
- 52:17Speaker 1: so you and g Herbo. Listen, it's you and Herbal.
- 52:19Speaker 1: It's him and Herbal, all right, So look, g Herbo's
- 52:21Speaker 1: on the album. It's coming soon. Appreciate you put yes, sir.
- 52:25Speaker 1: Appreciate you having a dog,