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Steve Price | 15 August · Steve Price

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  Speaker 1: This is Steve Price. Good Evening, Moving to Friday Nights.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Price wrapping up what's been a huge week for
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  Speaker 1: the Prime Minister as the world reacts to his backing
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  Speaker 1: of a Palestinian state. Well, next week three days of
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  Speaker 1: what we hope is more than paper shuffling at Jim
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  Speaker 1: Charmers Roundtable, and we hope they look at the economy
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  Speaker 1: and how to kick start it. Coming up tonight on
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  Speaker 1: the program, a new South Wales renewable battery manufacturer gifted
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  Speaker 1: three quarters of a million dollars of your taxes to
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  Speaker 1: kickstart their business. Well they've gone belly up despite the
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  Speaker 1: government assistance. One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has all the details.
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  Speaker 1: She'll join US Victorians shocked as the Labor Government's new
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  Speaker 1: Emergency Services and Volunteers levy starts appearing on their rate notices,
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  Speaker 1: with one suburban ice cream shop hit with an almost
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  Speaker 1: three thousand, five hundred dollars bill and it will be
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  Speaker 1: worse for farmers. The Nationals leader, Danny O'Brien joins us
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  Speaker 1: and the owner of that ice cream. The weekend marks
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  Speaker 1: the eightieth anniversary of the end of the biggest armed
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  Speaker 1: conflict in our region. The end of the battle in
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  Speaker 1: the Pacific that ended World War II, With Townsville in
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  Speaker 1: North Queensland holding three days of commemoration, guess what the
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister couldn't even be bothered to turn up and
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  Speaker 1: again Genius cartoonist Mark Knight sketches his way through the
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  Speaker 1: week with his Fire Services Levy cartoon in the Herald
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  Speaker 1: Sun today. Just priceless. But first, the Prime Minister under
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  Speaker 1: fire for recognizing Palestinian state. But first, I can't close
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  Speaker 1: the week without again highlighting what many people more expert
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  Speaker 1: than me on global affairs in the ways of diplomacy
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  Speaker 1: have called the worst modern decision of any Australian government
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  Speaker 1: Prime minister or Foreign affairs minister in history. Now, of course,
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  Speaker 1: I'm referring to the slack jawed way. Our leader has
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  Speaker 1: decided to reward the terror group Humus with the decision
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  Speaker 1: to recognize a palace Stinian state with a visit to
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  Speaker 1: the UN to put our stamp on it. Now one
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  Speaker 1: can only wonder at the tone of the phone calls
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  Speaker 1: between other left leaning leaders like Francis Macron and the
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  Speaker 1: UK Starmer in the lead up to this. Since the
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  Speaker 1: foolish announcement on Monday that went like.
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  Speaker 2: This, Australia will recognize the state of Palestine. Australia will
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  Speaker 2: recognize the right of the Palestinian people to a state
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  Speaker 2: of their own, predicated on the commitments Australia has received
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  Speaker 2: from the Palestinian Authority.
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  Speaker 1: To the backslapping thanks from Hamas and Penny Wong's contribution,
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  Speaker 1: haven't it? And we know that two states is the key.
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  Speaker 3: It is the key to a just piece for.
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  Speaker 1: Israelis or Kalestinians alike. We also know this is not
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  Speaker 1: the end, it is just the beginning. Can you believe this?
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  Speaker 4: Pair?
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  Speaker 1: Now? Midweek the Prime Minister was forced to explain what
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  Speaker 1: exactly he and eighty nine year old Palestine Authority leader
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  Speaker 1: Macmuda Bas actually agreed to only for expert and experts.
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  Speaker 1: Tried to explain to our political leaders that look a
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  Speaker 1: bus has little supporting Gaza and that anyone trusting his
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  Speaker 1: promises was living in La la land. Also midweek, the
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  Speaker 1: Nine newspapers quoted a HMAS leader Sheik Hassan Yusef, praising
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  Speaker 1: Australia's decision, only to discover this blog's been in jail
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  Speaker 1: since twenty twenty three without any means of communication to
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  Speaker 1: the outside world. Well, that gave the Prime Minister a
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  Speaker 1: stick to hit his critics with.
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  Speaker 5: What that should be as a warning to the media
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  Speaker 5: of being very careful about the fact that Hamas will
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  Speaker 5: engage in propaganda, because what is happening as the international
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  Speaker 5: community are united about isolating Hamas, about supporting a peaceful
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  Speaker 5: way forward.
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  Speaker 1: Fancy the Prime Minister warning us about Palestinian propaganda. Now
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  Speaker 1: sadly for the Prime Minister and dangerously for all of
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  Speaker 1: us in Australia. This sorry saga at week's end saw
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  Speaker 1: the American ambassador at Israel and one time presidential want
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  Speaker 1: to be Mike Huckabee. He bobbed up on the ABC
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  Speaker 1: last night saying he'd talked to President Trump about Australia's
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  Speaker 1: decision and criticizing himself the foolishness of it.
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  Speaker 6: Have a look, Well, the US is disappointed that the
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  Speaker 6: nations like Australians, Okay and others, have decided to pick
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  Speaker 6: this particular time to unilaterally recognize second state. I think
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  Speaker 6: it's the timing has been very hurtful to any prospects
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  Speaker 6: of negotiating some settlement in Gaza with Hamas. There's an
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  Speaker 6: enormous level of disappointment, and some discussed.
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  Speaker 1: Howckeby was right. And of course this followed comments from
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  Speaker 1: the United States Secretary of State Marker Rubio earlier in
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  Speaker 1: the week about the Kabbala of Nations falling for this
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  Speaker 1: and pointing out Francis Emmanual Macron was responsible for peace
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  Speaker 1: talks involving harm us falling over meaningless.
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  Speaker 7: Right, it's symbolic, and they're doing it primarily for one reason,
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  Speaker 7: and that is their internal politics. They're domestic politics. The
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  Speaker 7: truth of the matter is that the future of that
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  Speaker 7: region is not going to be decided by some UN resolution,
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  Speaker 7: is not going to be decided by some press release
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  Speaker 7: by a prime minister or a president from some country.
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  Speaker 7: It's going to be decided on the ground in fact.
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  Speaker 7: But all these statements are meaningless, like they're they're not
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  Speaker 7: can't change anything, pretty.
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  Speaker 1: Clear, they're what Rubio was saying. So here we have
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  Speaker 1: tweedled and tweedled, dumb Albo and wog courting votes from
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  Speaker 1: the harbor Bridge March set, and the Greens putting stress
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  Speaker 1: on the United States Alliance to support a fanciful notion
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  Speaker 1: that no one, nobody in the world, no one in
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  Speaker 1: the Middle East thinks is ever going to happen. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this makes the Prime Minister's decision not to travel to
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  Speaker 1: Townsville to pay tribute to the memories of a garrison
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  Speaker 1: town that saved us from the Japanese. It makes that
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  Speaker 1: decision even worse. Back on, let's go first tonight to
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  Speaker 1: the impact of this awful tax the Victorian government's new
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  Speaker 1: Emergency Services and Volunteer Levy. Even the name annoys me
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  Speaker 1: now this program. Peter Kredlin and myself have been following
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  Speaker 1: this issue for quite some time, particularly looking at the
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  Speaker 1: impact this excessive tax burden is going to have on
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  Speaker 1: regional and rural residents. I'll explain that for you in
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  Speaker 1: a moment. But tonight the rubbers really hit the road
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  Speaker 1: for many business owners who've opened their interest rate notices
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  Speaker 1: to find huge increases to what they would normally pay
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  Speaker 1: with the Fire Services Levy. National's Victorian leader, Danny O'Brien
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  Speaker 1: joins us now from Lea and Gatha. Danny, great to
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  Speaker 1: have you with us. And small business owner Mark Sutherland,
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  Speaker 1: who operates his own ice cream business set in the
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  Speaker 1: southeast of Melbourne. Gentlemen, welcome. Can I first go to
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  Speaker 1: you mark, you open up the rates. Notice there it
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  Speaker 1: is the new Emergency Services and Volunteers levy. Awful name
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  Speaker 1: how much difference between that and your old fire services levy?
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  Speaker 8: Okay, well, Steve, the first thing that the older eyes
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  Speaker 8: were widened was when I looked at my rates and
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  Speaker 8: the rates were seventeen twenty and the levy was seventeen
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  Speaker 8: thirty eight. So I'm paying more at levy than the rates.
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  Speaker 8: And the increase last year was six twenty nine and
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  Speaker 8: this year at seventeen thirty eight, So we're not quite
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  Speaker 8: three times that day, Steve. So I'll tell you what
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  Speaker 8: they wonder who's going to pay the bills? Well, not us,
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  Speaker 8: I guess it's my poor customers who are now going
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  Speaker 8: to have to pay more for ice cream.
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  Speaker 1: And your poor old counselors are the ones that have
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  Speaker 1: been told they've got to collect this. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: can't blame them. I mean we need to let every
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  Speaker 1: Victoria know that this money goes straight to the Jacinta
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  Speaker 1: Allen government, whether it ever has anything to do with volunteers.
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  Speaker 1: I'll ask Danny about in a moment, But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how do you absorb that into your cost? You've got
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  Speaker 1: to put up the cost of your products. I guess.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely, Steve, the old person's voting for the wrong government.
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  Speaker 8: Who thinks it's us are going to foot the bill, aren't.
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  Speaker 8: We're just going to pass it on. And I guess
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  Speaker 8: when we open we open in three weeks, ice cream
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  Speaker 8: prices are going to be going up to cover this money.
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  Speaker 1: I can understand why not open this weekend it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be twelve and raining. I don't think even the
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  Speaker 1: most ice cream loving person what have an ice cream?
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, Danny, really good to have you with us.
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  Speaker 1: We've got some other examples already. We expect farm businesses
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  Speaker 1: of those that are going to be hardest hit. Now
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  Speaker 1: the premiere I think says farmers will not pay this
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  Speaker 1: levy this year. Is that right?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right. After a fairly strong campaign from the
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  Speaker 9: Nationals and Liberals but also our farm sector, our CFA volunteers.
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  Speaker 9: How the government has backed up. But it's a one
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  Speaker 9: year reprieve. See from one hundred and fifty percent increase
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  Speaker 9: in the rate. The government was going to charge farmers
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  Speaker 9: one year only sensibly from the drought, and we certainly
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  Speaker 9: welcomed that, but this should be scrapped altogether. It's not
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  Speaker 9: a one year reprief that we're after. We're after a
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  Speaker 9: reprieve completely because as businesses like Mark, it's our farmers,
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  Speaker 9: our residence is right across the state, and this is
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  Speaker 9: one of the things to be frank it's been a
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  Speaker 9: bit frustrating that people think this is only a farmer's tax.
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  Speaker 9: It's actually every single homeowner in Victoria, every commercial business,
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  Speaker 9: every industrial business facing this massive increase, and most of
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  Speaker 9: them finding it finding out about it now as their
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  Speaker 9: rates notices appear in their mailboxes.
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  Speaker 1: Can you believe that example we just had at that
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  Speaker 1: increase is just horrendous.
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  Speaker 9: It's literally one hundred percent increase. The rate of increase
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  Speaker 9: is one hundred percent for every residence, every commercial business,
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  Speaker 9: it's a sixty four percent increase for every industrial business,
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  Speaker 9: and as I said, next year, one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 9: percent for every primary production. That's a massive hit at
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  Speaker 9: a time at a cost of living crisis. I'm sure
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  Speaker 9: Mark doesn't have the spare cash to be able to
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  Speaker 9: absorb that. I'm sure his customers are going to be
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  Speaker 9: struggling as well because of ice ice creams are a
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  Speaker 9: bit of a luxury so this is a real hit
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  Speaker 9: to the Victorian economy and it's all because labor can't
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  Speaker 9: manage money. This has got nothing to do with supporting
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  Speaker 9: our emergency services because, in fact, Steve, the government gazette
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  Speaker 9: the government has published has shown that Fire Rescue Victoria,
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  Speaker 9: a CFA and SEES budgets are actually going down this year.
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  Speaker 1: Mark, could this potentially cost a youngster a job serving
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  Speaker 1: ice cream in the shop over summer because you won't
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  Speaker 1: be able to afford to pay them.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I don't know if it's that harsh, Steve, but
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  Speaker 8: I think the thing is you have a threshold on
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  Speaker 8: your prices of ice creams, and you know, you get
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  Speaker 8: to a part of people suddenly say, well, hang on,
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  Speaker 8: do I really need a little luxury item like that?
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  Speaker 8: So I'm sort of yeah, certainly, I think there's a
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  Speaker 8: little bit of pushback, but yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: The saddest thing is I can't stress enough from my behalf.
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  Speaker 8: The people just don't understand that it's a tax on them.
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  Speaker 8: It's not a tax on these business owners. It's the
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  Speaker 8: government's really making everybody pay for their problems.
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  Speaker 1: So explain to me how they calculate that, Mark, Do
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  Speaker 1: you own that shop where your ice cream business is based.
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  Speaker 11: Do you.
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  Speaker 8: I happen to own the building, Yes, I do, Steve.
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  Speaker 8: So I've got the rates here and as I said,
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  Speaker 8: my rates this year seventeen twenty fire levy seventeen thirty eight.
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  Speaker 8: Last year fire levy was six twenty nine, so six
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  Speaker 8: twenty nine it's nearly three times it's now seventeen thirty eight.
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  Speaker 8: So yeah, I do own the building, Steve. So obviously
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  Speaker 8: if I didn't own the building again, i'd be handing
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  Speaker 8: it on to the tenant anyway, because it's an outgoing
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  Speaker 8: So again the poor tenant if I had one, or
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  Speaker 8: he'd be paying and still passing it on. So either way,
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  Speaker 8: the poor old customer pays for the government's not been
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  Speaker 8: out to handle the economy, Danny.
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  Speaker 1: So I own a farm, as I understand it, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I won't pay the levee this year, but going forward,
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  Speaker 1: I don't pay the levy on the home block, but
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  Speaker 1: I pay it on everything else. Have I got that right? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's right.
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  Speaker 9: There's some exemptions for the private primary residence of the farmer,
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  Speaker 9: but it's even that is capped up to a value
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  Speaker 9: of five million dollars, so you can claim it on
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  Speaker 9: one claim, an exemption on one property if you like,
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  Speaker 9: up to a value of five million dollars. Now that
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  Speaker 9: might sound like a lot, Steve, but as you know,
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  Speaker 9: our farms have got bigger, farm land has got more valuable,
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  Speaker 9: and there's not too many farms that are serious that
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  Speaker 9: are going to be getting that exemption.
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  Speaker 1: Across the board.
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  Speaker 9: There's a lot of value in our farms and it's
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  Speaker 9: just a tax that shouldn't be added. It's effectively a
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  Speaker 9: de facto land tax on our farmers. That's why the
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  Speaker 9: Nationals and Liberals have committed to repealing this tax. It
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  Speaker 9: is a it is a tax on production, it's a
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  Speaker 9: tax on homes to tax on business, and it's not
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  Speaker 9: about supporting our emergency services. It's actually about filling budget
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  Speaker 9: black holes.
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  Speaker 1: I mean. One of the things, Danny that really pees
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  Speaker 1: me off about this is that many of these farmers
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  Speaker 1: are the actual very volunteers that the people in the
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  Speaker 1: tax hikes in the title. That's why I hate the title.
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  Speaker 1: These are the people when the fire starts, who were
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  Speaker 1: down at the CFA shed within twenty minutes, jumping on
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  Speaker 1: a truck, putting their lives at risk to put the
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  Speaker 1: fire out.
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  Speaker 9: Absolutely spot on, and that's why we had a lot
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  Speaker 9: of anger, I think, particularly from the western districts of
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  Speaker 9: the state this year, where hundreds, if not thousands of
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  Speaker 9: CFA volunteers were fighting fires in the Grampians through summer
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  Speaker 9: at the same time they were hearing news that they'd
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  Speaker 9: be facing this tax on their farms. Now there are
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  Speaker 9: exemptions for volunteers, but even then many of those volunteers
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  Speaker 9: won't be able to get them. If they're not the
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  Speaker 9: actual owner of the property, or if the wife's name
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  Speaker 9: or their husband's name is on the property, then the
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  Speaker 9: volunteer you won't necessarily be able to get them. So
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  Speaker 9: there's some failings in that too. But it's literally yes,
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  Speaker 9: as you said before too, you don't like the name
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  Speaker 9: for a very good reason, because the government's trying to
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  Speaker 9: use the good name of volunteers to slug all Victorians
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  Speaker 9: with this tax. And yet it's the volunteers that have
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  Speaker 9: been the worst of it, and they are the ones
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  Speaker 9: that are on the back of the truck fighting fires
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  Speaker 9: around our state.
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  Speaker 1: It's a really grubby tax. Just before you go, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the other thing about it, Danny, is we all know
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  Speaker 1: and you'd appreciate this too.
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  Speaker 12: Mark.
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  Speaker 1: Once they introduce a tax or a levey like this,
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing stopping them putting it up every year from
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  Speaker 1: here until Kingdom come Well, absolutely, Steven, Danny, something that
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  Speaker 1: could yeah, go ahead, go ahead, Mark.
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  Speaker 8: Sorry, something can be pursued, Danny. Is just this small
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  Speaker 8: amount that I'm paying. I'd love to know the figure.
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  Speaker 8: And I have heard of banded about three or four
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  Speaker 8: billion dollars in tax. You can't tell me they're going
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  Speaker 8: to spend that on essential services. I'm sure a lot
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  Speaker 8: of that's going to be sophening, if on paying debts.
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  Speaker 8: I wonder how much of that it's going to be
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  Speaker 8: put towards digging these holes everywhere. It's a lot of money,
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  Speaker 8: three or four billion.
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  Speaker 1: Dollars, Danny, Mark, I appreciate your time tonight, both of you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, and we'll keep on this case.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure Peter will when she gets back. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much for joining us. That is just absolute outrage
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  Speaker 1: by that government coming up after the break. It's been
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  Speaker 1: eighty years since the victory in the Pacific and Sky
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  Speaker 1: News investigative reporter Jonathan Lee. He'll take us inside a
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  Speaker 1: rare place, a Brisbane museum, that documents Australia's crucial role
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  Speaker 1: in World War Two. Welcome back to the Price with you.
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  Speaker 10: Well.
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  Speaker 1: As I mentioned the top of the program, this weekend
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  Speaker 1: commemorates what will be the end of the war in
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  Speaker 1: the Pacific. It's the eightieth anniversary Victory in the Pacific
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  Speaker 1: known as VP Day. Australia played a huge key role
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  Speaker 1: in that, as did the Americans. Clearly, Skyne is investigator
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  Speaker 1: reporter Jonathan Lee. Now he was given a tour of
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  Speaker 1: a museum that not many Australians would be aware of
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  Speaker 1: that exists. It's actually dedicated to documenting Australia's role in
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  Speaker 1: World War II and the leadership of US General Douglas MacArthur,
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  Speaker 1: the American who of course led the Southwest Pacific campaign
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  Speaker 1: from his desk in the heart of Brisbane.
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  Speaker 13: When the fearsome one hundred and seventy meter long USS
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  Speaker 13: Ohio sailed into Brisbane recently, the city's skyline was visible.
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  Speaker 13: While it has changed, the top floor of one of
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  Speaker 13: its oldest office blocks near Queen Street is still trapped
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  Speaker 13: in time. A museum and monument dedicated to World War
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  Speaker 13: II a US General Douglas MacArthur.
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  Speaker 14: He had a very well developed sense of his own
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  Speaker 14: role in history.
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  Speaker 13: Having escaped from the Philippines, General MacArthur would eventually establish
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  Speaker 13: his headquarters in this Brisbane boardroom.
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  Speaker 14: Yes, this is the office that MacArthur occupied between the
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  Speaker 14: July and nineteen forty two and the fourteenth of October
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  Speaker 14: in nineteen forty four.
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  Speaker 13: From here he operated a Supreme Commander of the Southwest
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  Speaker 13: Pacific area. The desk a replica recreated with his cigar
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  Speaker 13: burns and in States he.
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  Speaker 14: Made some Telly's scathing comments about Brisbane.
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  Speaker 12: Can I understand he didn't like Camber much more?
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  Speaker 13: No, what did General MacArthur dislike about Australia or Australia's
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  Speaker 13: fighting ability.
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  Speaker 14: It wasn't just Australia. It was anything that wasn't American.
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  Speaker 14: So a true American first personality. Yes, indeed, some have
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  Speaker 14: suggested probably that America second.
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  Speaker 10: MacArthur first.
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  Speaker 13: He clashed with renowned Ozzie General Thomas Blamey shown here.
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  Speaker 10: Blamey said to have said, no, I'd rather have an
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  Speaker 10: Australian and I know it'll find.
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  Speaker 13: Australia's then Prime Minister John Curtain had an office one
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  Speaker 13: level below.
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  Speaker 10: I'm not sure that it was entirely accidental.
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  Speaker 13: There's a replica two of the props he used to
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  Speaker 13: craft his own image, a self designed hat.
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  Speaker 10: He was a showman.
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  Speaker 13: Ray bans and corn cob pipe.
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  Speaker 14: Only use that really when the media was around. He
• 18:23
  Speaker 14: preferred cigars. But that was an image taken by Churchill Alreaginally.
• 18:27
  Speaker 13: Yes, the map on the wall details Japan's sphere of influence.
• 18:31
  Speaker 10: The Japanese were looking at a short term war that.
• 18:34
  Speaker 13: Were dragged into one of attrition. Inside the draw rumshell
• 18:38
  Speaker 13: in Japanese currency, not from the homeland, but in denominations
• 18:43
  Speaker 13: of Pacific nations they occupied or intended to.
• 18:46
  Speaker 14: I was sort of preparing for a longer term operation.
• 18:52
  Speaker 13: There's a soldier's personal flag signed by loved ones.
• 18:56
  Speaker 10: It's the flag of loyalty to the Emperor.
• 18:58
  Speaker 13: General Yamamoto conceived the attack on Pearl Harbor. This yoke
• 19:03
  Speaker 13: control was cut from the plane of which he was
• 19:06
  Speaker 13: shot down and killed over Boganville to our north.
• 19:09
  Speaker 14: This is support side one which a motto was supposed
• 19:12
  Speaker 14: to be sitting behind when the aircraft were shot down.
• 19:15
  Speaker 13: This belonged to a non commissioned officer.
• 19:18
  Speaker 10: The Japanese army mass produced. In fact, swords like this one.
• 19:23
  Speaker 13: Tucked out of sight is another little known artifact. Conference
• 19:26
  Speaker 13: tables rarely come much simpler, but every day at midday,
• 19:31
  Speaker 13: top brass would sit here where they would hear the
• 19:35
  Speaker 13: full picture of the enemy's activities and discuss how Allies
• 19:39
  Speaker 13: would hold on and eventually fight back and winging.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Off on a reconism's plate which will cover many hundreds
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: of miles of sea.
• 19:47
  Speaker 13: The red Cross flag was originally from the Australian General
• 19:51
  Speaker 13: Hospital in Egypt. In another draw, a cloth survival map
• 19:55
  Speaker 13: from the US Air Force showing water currents. The keepers
• 19:58
  Speaker 13: of this history hope more all people can pay them
• 20:01
  Speaker 13: a visit as they remember the heroism of Allies and
• 20:04
  Speaker 13: the legacy of a commander with aspirations to lead the
• 20:08
  Speaker 13: Republican Party, a man perhaps more Donald Trump than Donald
• 20:13
  Speaker 13: Trump you could.
• 20:14
  Speaker 14: I think you can argue that his role after the
• 20:17
  Speaker 14: war creating a new Japan was more significant than his
• 20:22
  Speaker 14: role during the war.
• 20:24
  Speaker 13: It is a room of memories and messages and lessons.
• 20:27
  Speaker 13: Eighty years on we can all relearn.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Absolutely extraordinary to see all that history. And I had
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: no idea that that museum actually existed and so beautifully preserved.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Now to these three days of commemorations to mark the
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: odifh anniversary of Victory in the Pacific, honoring of course
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the end of World War II and the city's critical
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: wartime role. It's it's a big deal up there for
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the people of Townsville, as it should be. Joining us
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: to talk more about the significance of the commemoration. War
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: historian and Battlefield Tours operator Matt maclachlin, Matt, to see
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: you again. What was the actual the size of the
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: role of Townsville in that operation. I mean, obviously it
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: must have been big, even though MacArthur was based in Brisbane.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Townsville was really important in Pricey during the whole war.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: It was a major base, the major training area on
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: US Submarines came in and out of there. So like
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: many towns in Northern Australia, it was absolutely essential to
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: the war effort against the Japanese. So it's great that
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: eighty years after all the people of Townsville were commemorating
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: as well. They should still a very important part of
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Australia's defense strategy, and it was the case of World
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: War II as well.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Eightieth anniversary this weekend of the end of the war
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: in the Pacific. VP Day Australian newspaper this morning ran
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: that famous picture of the man dancing in Martin Place
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: in Sydney with all the ticket tape everywhere. What would
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the celebrations have been like this weekend eighty years ago
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: in our country, met.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't think we can quite comprehend it priorally,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: just what a big deal this was, because we've been
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: at war for six years, and not just six normal years,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: six very long and three bloody years. And we fought
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: through North Africa and to brook and now Alamey, and
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: then all through New Guinea and then up into other
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: islands in the Pacifics such as Bowmanville and onto Borneo,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: and just every step of way was just bloodshed and
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: terror for the people in Australia. So you can imagine
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: their relief when finally the Japanese were defeated in August
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: nineteen to forty five. We'd already seen the German surrender
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: in May nineteen forty five, and now several months later
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: the Japanese surrendered as well. But we should also realize
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: that it came is actually quite a surprise to people
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: because of course the American nuclear program that actually ended
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: the war was a total secret, So people were expecting
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: the war to carry on throughout nineteen forty five and
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: well into nineteen forty six. So the fact that in
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: mid nineteen forty five the war came to a sudden
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: conclusion was just incredibly warmly received by the people.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Of events that you know so well, just briefly the
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: you know, it was a very brutal war to the
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: north of US and in the Pacific. I mean, you
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: think about places like Sandacan, Kokoda Trail, the Burma Railway,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the interment camps in Singapore. It was pretty vicious and brutal,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: wasn't it.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: That. Yeah, that list you put out there, Christly just
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: speaks of the horror of this war. And that's of
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: course entirely separate from what was going on in Europe.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: We know about the horrors of the Holocaust and savage
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: fighting on the Eastern Front and the battles through Normandy,
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: and then you think about what was going on in
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: the Pacific from Pearl Harbor onwards. And it's one of
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: the things I think that is really important to remember,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: not just the people who were fighting in the Pacific,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: but also the civilians that came under Japanese rule, and
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: the Japanese were just brutal occupiers of those nations. And
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: it's estimated up to four hundred thousand civilians a month
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: were dying under Japanese occupation in Asia. So if we
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: want to talk about brutal fighting, there's nothing that compares
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: to the Second World War. The bloody is conflict in history,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: and let's just hope we never see anything like that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 10: Again.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Absolutely good on your mat. It was good to catch
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: up with your mat there from Battlefield too. It does
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: a wonderful job keeping history alive. I want to go
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: to some breaking news from late this afternoon that a
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: company called Energy Renaissance. It's a Newcastle based high tech
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: battery manufacturer. It's been hailed by the Albanezy government over
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and over and over again being central to Australia's renewable
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: energy future. Well it's gone into administration. It's gone bust,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: all this despite getting seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: in your taxpayer money. Here to explain more is one Nation,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Senator Pauline Hanson. All was good to see you, Senator,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: just for I ask you about this battery company collapsing.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: As a Queenslander, how do you feel about the fact
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: that your Prime Minister and his Defense Minister couldn't find
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: the time to go to Townsville this weekend to commemorate
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the eightieth anniversary of the end of the Second World War.
• 25:05
  Speaker 15: I think it's appalling, Steve, because they can quite easily
• 25:07
  Speaker 15: do all these trips overseas that Elbliezi has no trouble
• 25:09
  Speaker 15: getting on plane to go overseas, but he's not spending
• 25:12
  Speaker 15: the time here, you know. I even hear him go
• 25:15
  Speaker 15: on about gars and everything like that, and the people
• 25:17
  Speaker 15: over there not getting fed and they're going hungry. What
• 25:19
  Speaker 15: about the people on the streets here in Australia? What
• 25:21
  Speaker 15: about the children who are actually going hungry every day,
• 25:24
  Speaker 15: you know.
• 25:24
  Speaker 13: To schools.
• 25:25
  Speaker 15: It's appalling and I'm disgusted with it, absolutely disgusted.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he should be there, and so should Richard Miles.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: This battery company in Newcastle, we've seen media event after
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: media event. Chris Bowen turns up there and wax on
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: a hard hat. They all got their high viz vests
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: on and they're doling out money. What does this say
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: about where this green fantasy is headed?
• 25:52
  Speaker 15: Steve. You know, people need to know the diastraates that
• 25:55
  Speaker 15: our country is in. And I've been on about industries
• 25:57
  Speaker 15: and manufacturing right from the very beginning when I was
• 26:00
  Speaker 15: first elected in nineteen ninety six, and I could see
• 26:02
  Speaker 15: the riding on the wall, but I never picked this.
• 26:05
  Speaker 15: With the rise electricity costs, since twenty twenty three, fourteen
• 26:09
  Speaker 15: hundred manufacturing companies have gone under insolvent, more than fourteen hundred.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: This is nineteen one hundred que.
• 26:18
  Speaker 15: We've had over fourteen hundred manufacturing companies. Have You've had
• 26:23
  Speaker 15: thirty thousand small businesses have gone under this government and
• 26:26
  Speaker 15: over fourteen hundred manufacturing companies have gone under. This is
• 26:30
  Speaker 15: another one. This money was given to them. They've been
• 26:32
  Speaker 15: going for about ten years. This money was given to
• 26:34
  Speaker 15: them under the Liberal Party about nearly a quarter of
• 26:37
  Speaker 15: million twenty twenty and another just over half a half
• 26:40
  Speaker 15: a million dollars in twenty twenty one. Now ed Husich
• 26:46
  Speaker 15: got there in twenty twenty three. Instead electrifier electrifier, electrify
• 26:50
  Speaker 15: and they were pushing this screen energy and batteries, which
• 26:53
  Speaker 15: they've done. This is the only one that's gone under.
• 26:56
  Speaker 15: We had the Wiler they were going to do the
• 26:58
  Speaker 15: green hydrogen that went under. That was the power of
• 27:00
  Speaker 15: the plant down there for the green steel. Then you've
• 27:03
  Speaker 15: had also at Curry Curry. So all these projects have
• 27:07
  Speaker 15: been put out there. It's hard to estimate the figures.
• 27:10
  Speaker 15: So I've read that they estimate that about since twenty
• 27:13
  Speaker 15: fourteen till two twenty three, they estimate about twenty nine
• 27:16
  Speaker 15: billion has been put in subsidies which to do with
• 27:19
  Speaker 15: green energy. Now my figure is what I've tried estimate
• 27:23
  Speaker 15: over this I think is an excess of fifty billion.
• 27:28
  Speaker 15: Now the government has put in the last budget of
• 27:30
  Speaker 15: twenty three to twenty four budget another twenty two billion
• 27:35
  Speaker 15: to the future of Australia. But that's all these green projects,
• 27:39
  Speaker 15: even twiggy forests. You know, he was going to have
• 27:42
  Speaker 15: the green Horror hydrogen and that's out of Gladson that
• 27:45
  Speaker 15: went under. He owes the government about sixty million dollars,
• 27:48
  Speaker 15: which I don't know if they're going to get that back.
• 27:50
  Speaker 15: They're constantly falling over all the time. A lot of
• 27:53
  Speaker 15: these industries and manufacturing are going under because the rise
• 27:56
  Speaker 15: in cost of gas and electricity. Since two gas has
• 28:01
  Speaker 15: risen by one hundred and eighty one percent. Electricity has
• 28:05
  Speaker 15: risen by one hundred and eighty six percent. My concern
• 28:10
  Speaker 15: with this, Steve, is that we lose the ability to
• 28:13
  Speaker 15: manufacturer own products here. That means we have to bring
• 28:16
  Speaker 15: it in from overseas. That means our dollars are leaving
• 28:18
  Speaker 15: the country. That means less dollars to provide the services
• 28:22
  Speaker 15: that we need. So whether it be infrastructure, nursing homes, schools,
• 28:27
  Speaker 15: hospital the services that we need. And our welfare bill
• 28:30
  Speaker 15: social services bill is around three hundred billion a year
• 28:34
  Speaker 15: out of it just over a seven hundred billion budget.
• 28:37
  Speaker 12: We're in real problems.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: The numbers are eye watering. Pauline, thank you, have a
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: great weekend. We'll talk to you again soon. Pauline Hanson
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: nailing that that battery. That money needs to come back
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to the taxpayer. Coming up to a break. After the break,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I asked the question, where do we find a decent
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: opposition leader when you need one? I mean, you could
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: not name all of the opposition leaders around the country
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: right now. I'll talk to my Friday Night regular Campbell
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Newman about that. Welcome back to Steve Price with you
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Mark Night cartoonistill join me in just a moment he's
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: had a cracking week. This week he did a cartoon
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: on that tax we were talking about before the Fire
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: services levy. You won't believe it when we show it
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: to you. But first up, let's bring in our Friday
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Night regular, former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman. Campbell welcome, always
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: good to see you. We just heard from Pauline Hanson
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: there details of this battery manufacturer collapsing in Newcastle. They've
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: been through various governments, Liberal and Labor. Seven hundred and
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars they were given. But Chris Bowen just
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: seems to keep plowing on with this stuff. When there's
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: someone in Canberra, hopefully at this roundtable this week, and
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I go, well, can we just pause this for a
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: minute and have a chat about what will and won't work?
• 29:55
  Speaker 16: Well, Steve that this is the trouble with government trying
• 29:57
  Speaker 16: to pick winners and particularly prop up or create new
• 30:02
  Speaker 16: industries on the back of subsidies. You know, the biggest
• 30:05
  Speaker 16: problem Australia.
• 30:06
  Speaker 17: To day is the issue of regulation.
• 30:08
  Speaker 16: We're totally overregulated and you know, in terms of net
• 30:12
  Speaker 16: zero that is driving the cost of energy up for
• 30:16
  Speaker 16: all Australians and it makes it very hard to have
• 30:20
  Speaker 16: certain businesses succeed in Australia. So if we get rid
• 30:23
  Speaker 16: of regulation, if we get rid of the bureaucracy, if
• 30:25
  Speaker 16: we stop trying to push particular industries at the expenses
• 30:29
  Speaker 16: of others, we actually will prosper, We will go forward,
• 30:32
  Speaker 16: and I'd like to see that out of this so
• 30:35
  Speaker 16: called economic summit.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Well, governments have got a bad track record, haven't they,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Campbell of picking winners when it comes to that sort
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: of stuff. Every time they try and do it, it doesn't work.
• 30:47
  Speaker 16: It's really it is really really bad. The track record
• 30:51
  Speaker 16: is appalling. And you know, Paul Enhanson quite rightfully, was
• 30:55
  Speaker 16: just talking about some of the things we've seen from
• 30:57
  Speaker 16: this government the last few years. I mean, we look
• 30:59
  Speaker 16: at high hydrogen, green hydrogen, which a lot of money
• 31:04
  Speaker 16: has already been thrown at, green steel, which seems to
• 31:08
  Speaker 16: be going nowhere. You know, Really a low taxes, minimal
• 31:14
  Speaker 16: regulation government getting out of the way of people who
• 31:18
  Speaker 16: are entrepreneurs is what we need that would actually see
• 31:24
  Speaker 16: the real spirits of Australian business rise and would actually
• 31:27
  Speaker 16: get somewhere. But energy costs, Steve, are really a critical
• 31:32
  Speaker 16: problem right now, and I'm going to say it again,
• 31:35
  Speaker 16: Australians need to understand that this net zero caper is
• 31:39
  Speaker 16: costing them every single day now and prices will continue
• 31:44
  Speaker 16: to go up if we continue on this journey, and
• 31:48
  Speaker 16: it's a journey into hell.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Mate, you've got much confidence about what might come out
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: of that roundtable in camera. I mean you've been involved
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: in summits and sitting around tables with public servants and
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: people who are putting their wish list on the table.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: You're going to have the unions there, You're going to
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: have big business there. Are we going to get any
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: meaningful changes that will suddenly drive productivity and get the
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: economy up and running again, because despite what Jim Chalmers
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: tells us, it's not running very well at all at
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the moment.
• 32:23
  Speaker 16: The economy is not running well. And we see that
• 32:25
  Speaker 16: eighty percent of the jobs created in the last two
• 32:28
  Speaker 16: years were funded by government. Now that just shows you
• 32:31
  Speaker 16: that the unemployment figures are being propped propped up by
• 32:36
  Speaker 16: government expenditure and also by the way making inflation lasts
• 32:40
  Speaker 16: longer than it should have. But in terms of what
• 32:43
  Speaker 16: should come out of this summit, it's again what I've
• 32:45
  Speaker 16: been saying already. This evening, it's get rid of the
• 32:48
  Speaker 16: blooming red tape. What really worries me is when I
• 32:52
  Speaker 16: hear people say, oh, well, is, to take one example,
• 32:55
  Speaker 16: we'll freeze changes to the Building Code of Australia for
• 32:57
  Speaker 16: residential building for US four or five years. If I
• 33:02
  Speaker 16: was Premier of Queensland right now, what I would do
• 33:05
  Speaker 16: would be pulling out of the Unified Building Code and saying,
• 33:09
  Speaker 16: Queensland's going to actually get rid of all this stuff.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: By going alone.
• 33:12
  Speaker 16: We're going to get rid of all the rubbish that's
• 33:15
  Speaker 16: been injected, which is things like universal design and a
• 33:18
  Speaker 16: whole lot of the carbon neutrality stuff or energy saving stuff,
• 33:23
  Speaker 16: and actually let people build their own homes and that
• 33:26
  Speaker 16: would save colossal amounts of money. That's just one example.
• 33:31
  Speaker 16: Australian big business, Australian big unions, Australian big government. They
• 33:37
  Speaker 16: just can't get away from wanting to regulate stuff. I mean,
• 33:41
  Speaker 16: just hear what I just said. Big business actually likes regulation.
• 33:46
  Speaker 16: You know why, Steve, Because it keeps out the competition,
• 33:49
  Speaker 16: it keeps out the little guys, It keeps small businesses small,
• 33:53
  Speaker 16: and it keeps big businesses in semi monopolistic positions.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: What a depressing thing thought that is. I mean, and
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: you know, about forty minutes ago, I had an ice
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: cream shop owner from suburban Melbourne on the program. He's
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: just got his fire and Emergency services levy in his
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: rates bill put on him by the Victorian state government.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: It's gone up by three hundred percent. I mean, they
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: have the hide to call the bill the Fire Services
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and Emergency Services levy, trying to pretend the money's going
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: to go into the pockets of the people who run
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the CFA. I mean, that's why people really get peed
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: off about government.
• 34:33
  Speaker 16: Well, absolutely, and Stephen, what's disturbed me in the lead
• 34:36
  Speaker 16: up to this summit is, you know, the conversation has
• 34:40
  Speaker 16: been enormous amount about tax, tax, tax, tax, and more tax.
• 34:44
  Speaker 16: I mean, and frankly, some people are in the media
• 34:49
  Speaker 16: who should know better, have almost been on the on
• 34:52
  Speaker 16: the bandwagon. I mean, people have been hailing bringing in
• 34:55
  Speaker 16: road user pricing for electric vehicles and look, don't want
• 35:00
  Speaker 16: to see any tax go leads people's take home pay.
• 35:08
  Speaker 16: And yes there's a big issue of equity. But what
• 35:10
  Speaker 16: I'd say is why isn't the narrative about bringing fuel
• 35:13
  Speaker 16: excise for all petrol and diesel powered vehicles coming down.
• 35:19
  Speaker 16: Why aren't we talking about actually reducing taxes, freezing public
• 35:23
  Speaker 16: sector expenditure, freezing the number of public servants, getting red
• 35:28
  Speaker 16: of red tape and bureaucracy. That's what we need to
• 35:32
  Speaker 16: actually improve productivity in this country, not a mantra of
• 35:35
  Speaker 16: more tax and somehow tax is actually high, tax is
• 35:39
  Speaker 16: going to lead to productivity. What complete rolled goal balloney.
• 35:43
  Speaker 16: I mean, we should go back to the early to
• 35:47
  Speaker 16: mid eighties where we saw great economic reforms in the
• 35:50
  Speaker 16: United States with Reagan, in the UK with Thatcher and
• 35:53
  Speaker 16: indeed under Hawk and keyting in the eighties in Australia
• 35:57
  Speaker 16: that actually gave us decades of prosperity. And yet the
• 36:01
  Speaker 16: nongs who are going to this conference, and again it's
• 36:04
  Speaker 16: not just the government, it's big business and it's also
• 36:07
  Speaker 16: big unions, are not actually talking about things that will
• 36:11
  Speaker 16: really make a difference.
• 36:12
  Speaker 12: And that really worries me.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Dave Campbell, you speak far too much common sense. Good
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: to see my friend. I'll see you next Friday night. Well,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: it's been another big week. As I mentioned earlier in
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the program, plenty of material for Australia's leading cartoonists. The
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Herald sons. Mark Knight, He's always welcome in the studio. Rossie,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: You've had some great work this week. The decision by
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: the Albanezi governent I mentioned at the beginning of the program,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: lots of opportunity. He's going to recognize the Palestinian incident.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: What did we draw about that?
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Let's well, I drew this earlier in the week and
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: I thought, well, Hamas is going to be thrilled the
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: bits about this. So I love the way their network
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: they work in tunnels all underneath Palestine, and I thought
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: that should be a feature in the cartoon.
• 36:56
  Speaker 12: So two Israeli solds was patrolling gars.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: I can just hear this faint sound of champagne corks
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: popping from somewhere, but they don't know where, but we
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: know where.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: It is absolutely sensational. The rate cut, we had our
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: third rate cut for the year, that's all was welcome
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: for anyone who's got a mortgage on their house. Yes,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: every day Aussie's here we go. Inflation is a dragon mark.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: The Peter costell I coined the term, and I just
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: the cartoons.
• 37:22
  Speaker 12: We just love it.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: It's such a colorful thing to draw the inflation dragon.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: But apparently Now the Inflation Dragon is dead, and I
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: just imagine Jim Charmers and the Reserve Bank Governor fighting
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: over who is responsible. They're both, they're both the Great
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: White Hunters, but I think they'd be fighting over who's actually.
• 37:43
  Speaker 12: Responsible for killing the inflation Dragon.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: I tend to think it's the Reserve Bank Governor, but
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: I'm sure Jim will want to take his.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Now, Snoop dog are you a fan?
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I can honestly say I don't know many of Snoop
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Dogg's me either.
• 38:00
  Speaker 12: I don't.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: But he's coming to the Grand Final, right, and I
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: think it settles one big questions.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Steady jail. He's a gun totter.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: He's against wrapper, he's right up the woe k AFLs Auri.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I think there is mc g Grand Final day that's
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: looking away. You will come out in a cloud of smoke,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: and I think it's good because he'll be able to
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: do the smoking ceremony as well before the game starts.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 38:27
  Speaker 12: Yeah, welcome to country with Snoop Dogg.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Now we're not supposed to mention the Collie Wobbles it.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I thought they'd been erry, didn't They get put in
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: an urn and buried in the middle of nineteen ninety
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: park at one.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Point they were buried in nineteen ninety But look, I
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: placed myself in personal danger talking about let's have a book.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: See what you drew for Collingwood this week? Yes, no,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: snoop dogg. We've gone back one.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Well, the Collie wobbles, just just the thought of it.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: How would you measure the Collie wobbles? And apparently it's
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: science week, so I thought a seismograph would be the
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: greatest thing to measure the Collie wobble.
• 39:08
  Speaker 12: So you can just imagine the barrel turning. But it's
• 39:10
  Speaker 12: not a graph.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: It's actually a jagged magpie on the barrel that's spins.
• 39:15
  Speaker 12: So that's how we measure that.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Collecking your life in your hands though.
• 39:18
  Speaker 12: Well they're real, mate, They're real. Those Collie wobbles are real.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Now the one I mentioned is your cartoon on the
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Emergency Services levee. Now we've talked a lot about that
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: on the program today. Everybody's starting to get this now
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: in the letterbox and people are very shocked about the
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: figures that they're seeing. Huge and you have drawn someone
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: opening their letterbox and a flame thrower comes out.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Well, the only people are going to get burned or
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: may need fire assistance of people opening their envelope that
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: just center is sent to them. And like you said,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: that guy was the guy from the ice cream parlor. Incredible, incredible,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: So it's going to hit everybody. And I just thought,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: you know, you go to walk out, you're going to
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: open your mailbox and bang.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the letterbox drawing is your cartoon of
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: the week. We're try and get that up because I mean,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: people are really going to be watching that. Look at that.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: There's Jacinda, she's on her Australia Post five wearing a
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: little green top and bang, straight out of the hilarities
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: there it.
• 40:19
  Speaker 12: Goes in letterboxes all over Victoria.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Can you mention it? People are not going to be happy.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Now I'm pleased to say you've done a nice.
• 40:27
  Speaker 12: Drawing from another cracking column.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I've written a column about how we can't seem
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: to find opposition leaders that are inspirational. What is it?
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: And I use the example of one Jeffrey GiB Kennett,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: who was the last successful Liberal premiere of Victoria. So
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: two terms and you've taken any aspiring opposition leaders to school.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Here's Jeff Kennett. Look, I loved drawing Jeffrey. When you
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: love Jeff, I.
• 40:56
  Speaker 12: Miss those days.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: It was the golden age of cartoon had we had
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: John Howard and Canberra and Jeff Caneton power here was
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: just great to draw. But I took your lead and
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: I thought that jeff should open a school for educating
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Victorian opposition leaders because they need a bit of coaching.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: And there's young Brad Batton, there's paper eraplanes flying everywhere,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: and of course standing in the corner is poor old
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: John Bizuto.
• 41:20
  Speaker 12: Yeah, got it terribly wrong in my column.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I made one small era. I should say Brad Baton
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: was here in I thought he wasn't here until maybe
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: he was here in July or June. Okay, so we'll
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: correct that for tomorrow. Well, to have a look at
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Collie Wobbles, because I think every Collingwood support a watching
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: would like to see your College Wobbles cartoon.
• 41:39
  Speaker 10: Here.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: We got it, yeah we do. There it is, there,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: it is, and that's very clever. So the seismograft draws
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: the magpie.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: The magpie, yes, the jaded magpie. Shall we say, you've
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: had a sensational week? Have you got in your head yet?
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: How are you going to illustrate the round table in Canberra?
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Look at King Arthur nights?
• 42:01
  Speaker 12: Sorry, have you picked my brains?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Had you thought of that?
• 42:04
  Speaker 12: For sure? For sure? I mean around.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: Table means there's nowhere, you know, there's no little sort
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: of corners to hide.
• 42:09
  Speaker 12: But we've got that.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: We've got Putin and Trump shaping up in Alaska.
• 42:14
  Speaker 12: It's just it's a feast for cartoonists.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Someone suggested to me that Donald Trump should have on
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: the runway at this Air Force base, yes, where he's
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: meeting Vladimir one of those stealth bombers that he said
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: to Iran just parked outside. You can take that suggestion
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: as well. Thank you, Mark, I love you. Thanks, I'll
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: see you again in a couple of weeks time now.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, our panel takes a look
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: at some shocking new NDS numbers, plus some stories from
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: the heart of the housing crisis. Back after the break,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, coming up the word according to Rondan of
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: course after us, let's bring in our Friday Night panel.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Friday Night regular Joe Hilda Brown. Great to see you again, Joe,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: and from Women's Forum Usustralia, Stephanie Bastian welcome to you both.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Let's talk housing right up the top. Experts are saying
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: that Western Sydney councils are behind. We know that they're
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: not giving enough approvals. The alban Easy government's got a
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: target of one hundred and thirty thousand homes in four years.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Good luck with that never going to happen, Stephanie. How
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: do you think the government can justify these targets when
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: local councils can't keep up and we don't have enough
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: tradees anyway.
• 43:28
  Speaker 18: Well, good evening, Steve, great to join you. Quite frankly,
• 43:30
  Speaker 18: they can't. They've made this promise to deliver on these
• 43:33
  Speaker 18: homes and they're not getting through the red tape. You've
• 43:36
  Speaker 18: got these at the end of the day, you've got
• 43:38
  Speaker 18: these houses that are being put into smaller blocks. The
• 43:40
  Speaker 18: regulations are outdated. Quite often, properties are being rejected on
• 43:44
  Speaker 18: the basis of things like shadowing or how many send
• 43:47
  Speaker 18: me back from the front fence the dwelling starts. And
• 43:50
  Speaker 18: then on top of that you've got local councilors with
• 43:52
  Speaker 18: no planning experience deciding whether or not these properties can
• 43:55
  Speaker 18: go ahead. I think the government should get serious about deregulation.
• 43:59
  Speaker 18: Perhaps we should drop local government managing in managing it
• 44:02
  Speaker 18: all together and give it back to the Planning department
• 44:06
  Speaker 18: within state government level.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a bad idea, Joe. I mean, it's
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: not just Western Sydney. I mean you jump on the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Hume Highway and head up towards Sydney, north of Melbourne.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: There's development after development after development, and then every time
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I drive past them, I say, this is out in
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the middle of quite a bit of land, but they're
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: built within two meters of each other. You know, why
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: would you do that? I mean, and there's no infrastructure
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: around their schools or parks or trees, no trees even.
• 44:36
  Speaker 17: Yeah, that's a million dollar questions. So basically, I mean
• 44:39
  Speaker 17: in the Western Sydney.
• 44:40
  Speaker 19: Councils, they're bearing the brunt of this massive growth that
• 44:44
  Speaker 19: we need and that it's slated. So they've got tens
• 44:47
  Speaker 19: of thousands of houses they need to build in many cases,
• 44:49
  Speaker 19: and strangely it's off more affluent, leafy suburbs where they
• 44:53
  Speaker 19: only have to build a few hundred more that are
• 44:55
  Speaker 19: even more behind, so they're doing all their heavy lifting.
• 44:58
  Speaker 17: But even so the amount of red tape is just
• 45:02
  Speaker 17: killing builders.
• 45:03
  Speaker 11: I spoke to one just this week for a project
• 45:05
  Speaker 11: we're doing, and he just talks about the endless amount
• 45:09
  Speaker 11: of you know, checks and then the accreditation and then
• 45:13
  Speaker 11: you have to go back and see if anything's changed,
• 45:15
  Speaker 11: and you've got to get another person to come out
• 45:17
  Speaker 11: and certify that, and then you've got to get someone
• 45:19
  Speaker 11: to certify the certifier. And it just absolutely does the
• 45:22
  Speaker 11: industry's head in.
• 45:23
  Speaker 17: So we need.
• 45:24
  Speaker 11: Definitely to cut that red tape. I think we may
• 45:27
  Speaker 11: need a state there's already some measures in New South
• 45:31
  Speaker 11: Wales for example, for a state planning authority to oversee big,
• 45:35
  Speaker 11: big development, so apartment buildings for example, but there may
• 45:39
  Speaker 11: be a case for them to step in and fix
• 45:41
  Speaker 11: these big sort of housing developments as well, because it's
• 45:45
  Speaker 11: we're clearly not going to get there, and the Premier
• 45:47
  Speaker 11: himself has admitted that there is no way they're going
• 45:49
  Speaker 11: to meet those targets.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like you might need a bit of
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: renovation that your own place. That guitar there could be
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: hung on the wall. You need to get some fresh
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: curtains and sort of brighten the place, gettical shoes. Stephanie.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: On a very serious issue indis participation is now it's
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: gone through the roof this stat today. Surely it can't
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: be right. One in six six year old boys are
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: on the indis what the hell is happening?
• 46:21
  Speaker 18: Yeah, I'm very concerned. I think that there's this hyper
• 46:24
  Speaker 18: focus on male behavior and young boys in particular, and
• 46:28
  Speaker 18: the solution to that has been to perhaps medicate more
• 46:31
  Speaker 18: than they should. But I think the other side of
• 46:34
  Speaker 18: the coin is that there's no incentive for parents to
• 46:36
  Speaker 18: put in their pocket now that the fees for allied
• 46:40
  Speaker 18: services have gone up. So for example, to see a
• 46:42
  Speaker 18: psychologist or to see a speech therapist, you're looking at
• 46:45
  Speaker 18: two hundred dollars an hour, which has become bloated due
• 46:48
  Speaker 18: to the NDIS pouring money into the big corporates running
• 46:52
  Speaker 18: these organizations. So I think the government should do a
• 46:55
  Speaker 18: review of a how kids are being assessed, but also
• 46:58
  Speaker 18: looking to bring it back into the prime sector for
• 47:01
  Speaker 18: some of these for some of these services, to bring
• 47:03
  Speaker 18: the cost down.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it really needs an overhaul. Joe our old mate
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Nick Reech, the Lord Mirror Melbourne, he's gone from bad
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: to worst today he says it's time to adopt a
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: keep left rule on foot parts. I mean, has this
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: got nothing to do I.
• 47:21
  Speaker 17: Think this man is a visionary price here and I
• 47:24
  Speaker 17: think that.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I was please.
• 47:25
  Speaker 11: I was catching. I was catching the Metro in Sydney.
• 47:28
  Speaker 11: You guys in Melbourne should try one. They're fantastic. And
• 47:31
  Speaker 11: I was then they've got two escalators that come up
• 47:34
  Speaker 11: from the platform to ground level. They've got both of
• 47:38
  Speaker 11: them going up because they changed the escalators to meet
• 47:41
  Speaker 11: crowd demand and crowd activity.
• 47:43
  Speaker 17: And I was behind a group of lovely old, lovely
• 47:46
  Speaker 17: old honors.
• 47:47
  Speaker 11: They had their little shopping carts shopping that they were
• 47:50
  Speaker 11: taking to the market to stock up, and that was fantastic.
• 47:53
  Speaker 11: Three of them got on the escalator on the left
• 47:56
  Speaker 11: and then the fourth got on the escalator on the right,
• 47:59
  Speaker 11: and they all all just stood there and they stood there,
• 48:03
  Speaker 11: just blocking everything. And I went from thinking, what wonderful
• 48:08
  Speaker 11: self serving you know, lovely, you know, industrious old women,
• 48:12
  Speaker 11: you know, the font of all wisdom in our society.
• 48:14
  Speaker 11: We should listen to and respect our elders, to just thinking,
• 48:17
  Speaker 11: I'm just.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Going to get you out.
• 48:19
  Speaker 17: I just gotta barde thro it and just knock you
• 48:20
  Speaker 17: over the side. It's I cannot stand this. It's getting
• 48:23
  Speaker 17: in the way.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: A lot of conflicts you're too angry. You're an angry man,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Joe Steph. Thank you very much. If that's our biggest
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: problem in the world, I don't think we have any.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, everybody. I'll be back filling in
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: for Peter Kredlin on Monday. Big Week next week with
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Jim Chalmers round Table in Campbell. Let's hope something comes
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: of it. The world, according to Rwandane up next,