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9-17: What's Really Behind This Sydney Sweeney Backlash? · Wicked Radio with Bill Adams

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  Speaker 1: Oh, we've got two in a row now. I wonder
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  Speaker 1: what's going to happen next summer. Because it seems like
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  Speaker 1: every summer, Sidney Sweeney is involved in some sort of
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  Speaker 1: an advertising campaign that just sets people ablaze. They're just
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  Speaker 1: melting down over this. They can't understand it. But what's really, really,
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  Speaker 1: truly behind all this Sidney Sweeney backlash and hate these days?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know who she is. She's the very... Very,
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  Speaker 1: I'll say, well-endowed actress. I think she's only 29 still.
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  Speaker 1: She's on that show Euphoria, but she does these ads.
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  Speaker 1: Last summer it was American Eagle ad with the jeans,
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  Speaker 1: and that was supposedly controversial. This time it's for a
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  Speaker 1: sports betting site called Novig. She's once again scantily dressed.
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  Speaker 1: Is that on the surface? Is that why we've got people,
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  Speaker 1: we've got certain people on the progressive side of things
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  Speaker 1: so upset at her? Is it something, maybe it's falsely created,
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  Speaker 1: a non-troversy from her own marketing department. Maybe it's that. Or,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll ask the question, because that's what I do,
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  Speaker 1: or is it something a little bit worse than that,
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  Speaker 1: I'll say. Is it because of, ironically, how she looks?
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  Speaker 1: In other words, if she was a different-looking kind of
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  Speaker 1: person and was showing this much skin, she had a
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  Speaker 1: different color skin, would there even be this controversy that's
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  Speaker 1: out there? I don't know what's really behind it. Let's
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  Speaker 1: try to figure it out. I think we know, but
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  Speaker 1: let's ask the question anyway, because it's a beautiful, I
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  Speaker 1: love this because, well, it's a great thing to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: It's fun. But also, I think it exposes hypocrisy in
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  Speaker 1: the best possible way. And I love that. Anyway, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into it. Thanks for finding me. I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Let's get right to it. Sydney Sweeney, 29.
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  Speaker 1: I may have that wrong. She may be 30. I
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  Speaker 1: think she's still only 29 anyway. Very, very bodacious young actress.
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  Speaker 1: She's on that show Euphoria. She's done all kinds of
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  Speaker 1: different roles, but mainly now worldwide known as these advertising campaigns.
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  Speaker 1: Last year was the American Eagles, American Eagle ad. Once again,
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  Speaker 1: kind of showing off her body, but promoting the thing.
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  Speaker 1: And it was all about a tongue-in-cheek play on, it's
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  Speaker 1: all about the genes. Well, that was taken a whole
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  Speaker 1: different way. Again, that was taken, genes? Are you talking
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  Speaker 1: about your lineage? This is how ridiculous this got. And
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  Speaker 1: now we've got a new ad featuring her that's causing
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of meltdowns. Amazingly. And this is for NoVig,
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  Speaker 1: a sports betting site. Showing even less clothing in... Sports apparel.
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  Speaker 1: That's apparently what it was. Apparently this has set the
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  Speaker 1: feminist sports community ablaze. But here's a little piece of
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  Speaker 1: that ad.
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  Speaker 2: Or this. Sports.
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  Speaker 3: Sports.
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  Speaker 4: Sports. Sports.
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  Speaker 2: Sports.
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  Speaker 3: Sports. Sports.
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  Speaker 1: Sports. You can't trade this. She's not afraid to show it,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. And that's part of her magic
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  Speaker 1: and her secret in this. Because I'm, as I looked
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  Speaker 1: at this even more, pun intended, I realize that she's
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  Speaker 1: playing this brilliantly, using what she has, obviously, but also
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  Speaker 1: not falling into the trap. Now, again, this is two
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  Speaker 1: summer cycles of advertising in a row where she's not
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  Speaker 1: falling for it and she's using it to her advantage.
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  Speaker 1: She's taking this so-called controversy, or maybe even non-troversy, depending
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  Speaker 1: on how you look at it, and she's taking that
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  Speaker 1: and she's using it to her advantage. Brilliant. But for
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  Speaker 1: the first breakdown in this, we've got to go to
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  Speaker 1: the brain trust on The View to figure out how
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  Speaker 1: they feel about things because they're, of course, going to be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, They're going to try to break this down
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  Speaker 1: and explain it to the less intelligent individuals, the low
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  Speaker 1: wattage folks in our community, because that's what this show
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  Speaker 1: is all about. Here's Whoopi and the other ones trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure this whole thing out as they talked about it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not mad at you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, she's not mad.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think you can... put yourself.
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  Speaker 2: On equal footing with when the female athletes do that.
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  Speaker 6: I agree with you, but I also think we shouldn't
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  Speaker 6: give Sydney Sweeney, who I think has, she's kind of
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  Speaker 6: figured out the formula of creating outrage and monetizing that
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  Speaker 6: through the ads, which again, more power to her, but
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  Speaker 6: we shouldn't give her the power to determine and define
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  Speaker 6: the athleticism and ability of female.
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  Speaker 1: She's not trying to. That was Anna Navarro and Whoopi
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  Speaker 1: Goldberg started the segment off, right? They did say something
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  Speaker 1: very smart there, actually, ironically enough, where they said she's
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  Speaker 1: taking this and she's using it to empower herself. She is.
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  Speaker 1: This is like the theme throughout this entire question today
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  Speaker 1: and this entire topic is she's brilliantly using all of
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  Speaker 1: this nonsense. Anyway, here's another breakdown of the entire situation,
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  Speaker 1: and now the backlash starts to come out. Here's who's
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  Speaker 1: really most upset about it are female athletes, apparently. Some,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the loudest of the bunch. I guess the AP,
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  Speaker 1: the Associated Press, now does video wrap-ups of stories. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know. I mean, I gave up on them a
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  Speaker 1: long time ago as far as being a news outlet.
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  Speaker 1: But here's a video outlet mentioning some of those female athletes.
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  Speaker 1: So upset. They're so enraged. By Sydney Sweeney. Here's a
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  Speaker 1: little video wrap-up.
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  Speaker 3: Athletes criticized the ad on social media and said it's
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  Speaker 3: disrespectful to women. Four-time Olympic swimming gold medalist Ariane Titmus
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  Speaker 3: wrote on Instagram, I can't describe how infuriated I feel
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  Speaker 3: when I watch this. How do we live in a
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  Speaker 3: world where monetizing a woman's body and sexualizing women's sport
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  Speaker 3: is still a thing? Former U.S. gymnast Gracie Kramer said,
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  Speaker 3: I've spent my entire life competing in a sport where
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  Speaker 3: female athletes have been over-sexualized, reduced to our bodies, and
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  Speaker 3: forced to fight to be taken seriously for what we
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  Speaker 3: can do.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, here's the thing. Here's where this is just so ridiculous, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Sydney Sweeney's not claiming to be an athlete. I guess
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  Speaker 1: their outrage is because in this Novig ad, she's using
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  Speaker 1: sports equipment. That's the only thing, like there's like a,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, like a catcher's equipment, the
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  Speaker 1: only thing covering up her body. That's what they're upset about?
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  Speaker 1: How is sexualizing the female athlete still a thing? Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's go to this first and foremost, okay? sexualizing the
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  Speaker 1: female athlete. Let's go to something called, and this is
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  Speaker 1: just one example of this that's been going on forever,
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  Speaker 1: and they didn't say word one. They didn't say boo
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  Speaker 1: about this for the longest time. ESPN, the body issue.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's been going on, boy, if I was
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  Speaker 1: to just guess, if you put me on the spot,
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  Speaker 1: maybe 20 years, I think, where they put athletes, men
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  Speaker 1: and women, but of course the ones with women sell more.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the nature of advertising. Scantily clad, actual athletes
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  Speaker 1: on The cover, just off the top of my head,
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  Speaker 1: we've got Megan Rapinoe and Sue Bird were together, totally naked, but,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a side shot. They were, like, closely together there.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not sexualizing female athletes, I guess, according to them.
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  Speaker 1: There was one with Venus Williams. She was also naked.
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  Speaker 1: Ronda Rousey did one where she was just covering up her,
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  Speaker 1: you know, her chest like this with her MMA gloves.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not sexualizing female athletes who actually are athletes,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. Okay, right. Well, let's go to, now this
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  Speaker 1: is worldwide reaction, and this is why I say Sydney
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  Speaker 1: Sweeney is actually the big winner in this entire thing,
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  Speaker 1: because she knows how to play it exactly right. This
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  Speaker 1: even got to some sort of a morning news program
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  Speaker 1: in the UK. I don't know whether it's Sky News
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  Speaker 1: or the BBC or something, but this is classic. They
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  Speaker 1: went and they took a piece of a comment about
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  Speaker 1: this entire thing from a British journalist, female sprinter i
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  Speaker 1: guess i don't know but this is what she said
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  Speaker 1: about it too just to show you that this is
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  Speaker 1: also now some sort of a worldwide controversy here they
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  Speaker 1: are to british sprinter amy hunt you.
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  Speaker 2: Really want to show that it's about what your body
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  Speaker 2: can do not so much what it looks like i
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  Speaker 2: think when we see the the stats of 64 of
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  Speaker 2: young girls drop out of exercise and sport before they
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  Speaker 2: reach the age of 16 we don't need to place
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  Speaker 2: any kind of barrier whatsoever in their way in terms
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  Speaker 2: of providing the opportunity and the empowerment for them to
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  Speaker 2: still exercise.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you caught that or heard it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that guy's name, that British anchor, but
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  Speaker 1: he's looking at the clip they're playing. He's literally rolling
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  Speaker 1: his eyes and they come back to him and he goes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about all that. By the way, the
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  Speaker 1: British sprinter was reading off some notes about her statistics there,
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  Speaker 1: which I'm sure were fed to her by somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a big part of this entire thing. There's
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  Speaker 1: somebody behind the outrage, behind this entire thing. There's somebody
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  Speaker 1: behind it. And it's nothing new. Now, going back to
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  Speaker 1: last summer's advertising cycle, when she did the American Eagle
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  Speaker 1: ad with, it's all about the genes, right? I'll play
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  Speaker 1: on word about her family genes. Of course, the lunatics
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  Speaker 1: out there, who want to politicize everything, of course, they
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  Speaker 1: took that to mean something deeper and something else. They
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  Speaker 1: took it to mean something. genetics. That's right. Do you
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  Speaker 1: remember this famous GQ interview from last summer as they
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  Speaker 1: wanted to talk about the American Eagle ad? Sidney wasn't
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  Speaker 1: playing at all. Listen to how they try to twist this.
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  Speaker 1: And she tried to bait her into saying something controversial,
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  Speaker 1: and Sidney wasn't having it. This was brilliant.
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  Speaker 4: Racism of the content, which was basically that maybe specifically
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  Speaker 4: in this political climate, like white people shouldn't joke about
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  Speaker 4: genetic superiority. Like that was kind of like the criticism,
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  Speaker 4: broadly speaking. And since you are talking about this, I
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  Speaker 4: just wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about
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  Speaker 4: that specifically.
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  Speaker 1: Her answer was she wasn't having it. She just gave
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  Speaker 1: her a non-answer. I love the interviewer who got railed
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  Speaker 1: for this whole thing. She just Do you want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about that? What's about the controversy? Trying to pretend.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to bait her into some controversial answer. Genetics. Genes. Supremacy.
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  Speaker 1: It's a genes ad. You morons. This is what they
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  Speaker 1: try to do. But it's not just journalists and it's
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  Speaker 1: not just famous athletes. I literally cherry-picked. I looked at
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  Speaker 1: some of the TikTok videos that are out there. This
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  Speaker 1: one might have been Instagram and some of the just
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  Speaker 1: random people commenting about this. Four clicks. Either this girl's
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  Speaker 1: an actress or she really is this dumb. Listen to
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  Speaker 1: this take from somebody that decided to actually turn on
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  Speaker 1: a camera and complain about this and make it a
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  Speaker 1: racial issue. Just listen to this because this is what's
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  Speaker 1: actually out there.
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  Speaker 5: I really wasn't going to weigh in on this, but
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  Speaker 5: here we go. It is so difficult to grow up
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  Speaker 5: as a person of color, specifically a woman... And view
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  Speaker 5: yourself as beautiful in any sense of the word growing
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  Speaker 5: up in this country. I remember growing up in a
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  Speaker 5: predominantly white community wishing myself.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I can't listen anymore. That's actually out there. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it's possible she's actually pretending to have outrage to get clicks.
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea. But that's what you'll hear. That's
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  Speaker 1: what you'll hear out there. Because these lunatics will look
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  Speaker 1: at a Sidney Sweeney ad where she's showing off her
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  Speaker 1: gifts that God gave her, her body, and they're looking
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  Speaker 1: at this as a Anti-feminist thing. They're looking at this
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  Speaker 1: as a racial thing. Genetics. They're using the word white
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  Speaker 1: supremacy in there. I mean, so these are the questions.
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  Speaker 1: So let's try to answer it. What is behind all this?
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  Speaker 1: What's behind all this Sidney Sweeney backlash hate that's happening
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  Speaker 1: these days? Is it that? Is she sexualizing female athletes?
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  Speaker 1: Is she disrespecting them? First of all, she's not trying
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  Speaker 1: to be an athlete. She never said she was. She said, why?
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  Speaker 1: Because she's wearing sports clothes. athletic gear to cover up
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  Speaker 1: her thing, and she's on a sports betting site. Is
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  Speaker 1: that why? I don't think that's actually it. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: you've got many athletes showing off their actual female athletes
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  Speaker 1: showing off their wares on the cover of Sports Illustrated
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  Speaker 1: and other outlets. So that's hypocritical right there. But there's
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  Speaker 1: also this. First of all, a lot of this criticism
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  Speaker 1: is coming from the crowd that literally many times have
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  Speaker 1: been asked to define a woman. And can't do it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this goes into the transgender sports issue. But they can't
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  Speaker 1: define a woman because they're afraid of the backlash. I'll
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  Speaker 1: ask this question. If you can't or won't define a woman,
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  Speaker 1: should you be chiming in on anything another woman does?
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  Speaker 1: How about that, too? How about whatever happened to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all of the slogans from the feminist crowd? Whatever happened
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  Speaker 1: to that? My body, my choice. Unless it's Sidney Sweeney, apparently.
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  Speaker 1: Unless you're, you know, what they what they're deeming as
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  Speaker 1: a white conservative woman you know sex work is all
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  Speaker 1: work i hear that a lot well but you don't
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  Speaker 1: like her sexualizing things apparently you're saying but what's the
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  Speaker 1: you know you get the hypocrisy here uh celebrate women
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  Speaker 1: their work no matter how they make money well she's
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  Speaker 1: making money a lot of it but you won't celebrate
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  Speaker 1: her why is it well apparently this is part of
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  Speaker 1: the entire thing and this is where the gross politics
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  Speaker 1: involve apparently usa today did a an op-ed piece or
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  Speaker 1: an article about this whole thing just the other day,
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  Speaker 1: and they said, rightly so, and I was surprised and
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  Speaker 1: actually kind of delighted to see it. They said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my body, my choice, or celebrate and empower women unless
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  Speaker 1: you're a Republican, Sidney Sweeney. I said, she doesn't really
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  Speaker 1: talk about politics. What do you mean? She stays out
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  Speaker 1: of that. Apparently, and this is how sick it is,
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  Speaker 1: these lunatics went so far as to dig up her
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  Speaker 1: voting record, and they found out she had registered as
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  Speaker 1: a Republican, whatever her home state is. That's how far.
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  Speaker 1: That's how bad it is. Now, she doesn't talk politics,
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  Speaker 1: but they went so far as to dig up her
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  Speaker 1: voting records. This is how they're trying to make a
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  Speaker 1: controversy out of things. So is it that? Is it
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  Speaker 1: about politics? Or, and this is the really tough question
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  Speaker 1: of all, but I have to ask it because it's
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  Speaker 1: what I do. Is it because she's an attractive white
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  Speaker 1: female woman? Is that it? I mean, truly. And before
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  Speaker 1: you think that's a ridiculous question, ask yourself this. If
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  Speaker 1: she's black, brown, yellow, polka dot, anything other than white,
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  Speaker 1: is this even a thing? Is this even a non-troversy?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so, in my opinion. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: so at all. But because it's, and she's celebrating beauty.
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  Speaker 1: It might be something else. It might be, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there is this movement. It's not just her, it's happening.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, traditional views in Western culture of what we've
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  Speaker 1: seen as beautiful. Big boobs, beautiful body, beautiful face, blonde, attractive, hot,
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  Speaker 1: what we traditionally called hotness, it is back. It's trending back.
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  Speaker 1: That's just objectively factual. It's coming back. Is that what
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to stop? Or the biggest question of all,
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  Speaker 1: is this just plain old green-faced envy? Is that what
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  Speaker 1: this is? Because I think if you look at a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the people who are most upset about this,
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  Speaker 1: they're not in the category of what traditional Western culture
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  Speaker 1: has called attractive. And they don't like that too much.
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  Speaker 1: Could be any one of these things. But they're all bad.
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  Speaker 1: They're all bad because it's not coming from a good place.
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  Speaker 1: But it's good for us and people who like to
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  Speaker 1: figure out what's going on in the world because it's
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  Speaker 1: showing their hypocrisy. I would tell you this too, just
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  Speaker 1: as one final note on this, Sydney Sweeney is playing
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  Speaker 1: this brilliantly. Or her team is, I don't know, or
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  Speaker 1: her publicist or whatever it is. Because she doesn't delve
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  Speaker 1: into this controversy. Well, she's a Republican and she does that. No,
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  Speaker 1: she never said that. It was these freaks that dug
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  Speaker 1: up her voting record that did it. She's not causing
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  Speaker 1: all this. She's just sitting back counting the money. She's
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  Speaker 1: playing it brilliantly. So any number of reasons behind this
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  Speaker 1: hate and the backlash against her. But for you and me,
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  Speaker 1: it's showing the hypocrisy of the people that hate it.
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  Speaker 1: You can't define a woman. Why are you criticizing? What
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  Speaker 1: happened to female empowerment except for her? Hypocrisy. That's two
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  Speaker 1: summers in a row she's created this non-divergent. She hasn't
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  Speaker 1: created this non-divergent. She's part of it and benefiting from it.
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  Speaker 1: Next summer, maybe off the hook. It may be amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyway, who knows? She's cashing in. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for finding me. I appreciate you. Make it a wicked
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