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The Ron Verb Show - 5pm Hour Wednesday, 08/19/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: All righty. Back to the guy that was saying. Now,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead with your comments, sir.
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  Speaker 3: I was wondering, you know, did the voted constituency vote
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  Speaker 3: these blocked cameras in?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: In a police levy, or was this a grant?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, it would be by your leadership, by your trustees,
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  Speaker 2: by the people in charge who would vote for them.
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  Speaker 2: They had a vote, and they voted in favor of
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  Speaker 2: the flock cameras.
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  Speaker 3: Three people decided that everybody in their township should be surveilled.
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  Speaker 2: Three people who are your elected leaders. You voted for
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  Speaker 2: those three people, and they ultimately make the decisions on
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  Speaker 2: numerous things without you voting on each and everything. They
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  Speaker 2: decided from input from the police departments. As I say,
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  Speaker 2: Canfield has them. Boardman has them. So they have six
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  Speaker 2: flock cameras, and I believe they should get more in
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  Speaker 2: all seriousness. Why would you be opposed to it? It
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  Speaker 2: is a modern tool of policing. And listen, I'll just–
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  Speaker 2: I will– I'll be perfect. And my son does not
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  Speaker 2: work for the Austintown Police Department, but my son is
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  Speaker 2: a police officer. And make no mistake, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people understand what– totally what goes on
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  Speaker 2: out there and what they're up against from a staffing standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: And this is modern technology. Just as you have a
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  Speaker 2: Leeds computer in a police car– You have radar units
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  Speaker 2: in police cars. And you have people, your flock cameras
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  Speaker 2: help identify a fleeing car that has committed a crime
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to trying to guess which way they went
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  Speaker 2: to be able to apprehend a criminal. It is not
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  Speaker 2: there to deal with you or anything you got going on.
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  Speaker 2: They do not care if you're going to Walmart. They
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  Speaker 2: do not care. But you would care if your home
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  Speaker 2: was broken into. You would care if your car was stolen.
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  Speaker 2: You would care if your child was..
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  Speaker 3: My car's like yours, Ron. It's not going to get stolen.
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  Speaker 2: If your child was apprehended. So is it a deterrent
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  Speaker 2: to crime? No, but it helps catch criminals that commit crime.
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  Speaker 2: And they're throughout the community now. And does it prevent
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  Speaker 2: you from going to Canfield or Niles or Boardman or anywhere?
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  Speaker 2: It never prevents me from doing it. I've never been
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  Speaker 2: chased down. And there are ramifications. Police officers have rules.
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  Speaker 2: And if you break them, there are serious ramifications as
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  Speaker 2: far as firing and legal ramifications if you abuse the
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  Speaker 2: lead's computer, if you abuse this kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: In light of the poor-mouthing that goes on with the
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  Speaker 3: police departments, and they have their hand out every election
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  Speaker 3: for a levy, and I'm not going to say it's
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  Speaker 3: a good thing or a bad thing. In light of that,
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  Speaker 3: this added expense, I don't think it's really warranted or
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  Speaker 3: justified in that they do have computers in their cars
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  Speaker 3: to run license plates on cars they see on the road.
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  Speaker 2: It makes your police department more efficient. In other words,
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  Speaker 2: first of all— Then they can lay off policemen then.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 2: When you deal with your police departments, you understand everything
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  Speaker 2: costs more for a police department, too. A police car
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  Speaker 2: isn't $ 50, 000 anymore, just like a fire truck is now
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  Speaker 2: a million dollars. So police cars cost way more than
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  Speaker 2: they used to. Fire trucks do. Health care benefits do.
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  Speaker 2: Hourly salaries do in police departments and staffing does. In
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  Speaker 2: the Austintown Police Department, we are basically at minimum staffing.
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  Speaker 2: What you're getting is more efficiency out of the officers
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  Speaker 2: that are on the road. In the Austintown Police Department,
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  Speaker 2: as a result of flock cameras, you are getting better
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  Speaker 2: efficiency from all of those officers with the staffing that
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  Speaker 2: is currently available to them. And it's a tool that
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  Speaker 2: they can use.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have any information on how much these cameras cost?
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  Speaker 2: I do not.
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  Speaker 3: I think your argument's a little bit vain, and I
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  Speaker 3: think you're kind of naive about what these cameras are
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  Speaker 3: capable of and what can be done. That naivety is
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  Speaker 3: what's going to really ruin America.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not naive. I'm telling you for a fact, for
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  Speaker 2: a fact, what these cameras do. I will tell you
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  Speaker 2: once again for a fact. You can call it naive,
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  Speaker 2: but anything you're saying is not true. What you're saying
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  Speaker 2: is totally and completely false. I mean, at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day, it's pretty simple.
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  Speaker 6: No, no.
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  Speaker 2: If it makes you more efficient with your police departments.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's a taxpayer argument for it, too. If
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  Speaker 2: an officer detective can get a direction or location on
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  Speaker 2: a suspect vehicle in a few minutes, instead of spending
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  Speaker 2: hours driving around finding businesses or houses with cameras and
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  Speaker 2: then going through all that video, it's less manpower, less
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  Speaker 2: taxpayer money being spent to develop some of the leads.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, think about it.
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  Speaker 3: Where are the videos stored at for these cameras? Do
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  Speaker 3: they go to the 911 center? Are they at the
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  Speaker 3: police station where somebody has to sit there and watch
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  Speaker 3: them all the time?
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, the flat camera notifies the officer's car, notifies them
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  Speaker 2: immediately of what's going on. You're not watching the video.
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  Speaker 2: If you're looking for a car fleeing and that license
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  Speaker 2: plate comes up, it'll tell you that. You understand that's
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  Speaker 2: how they work. Austin Town PD could use the help.
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  Speaker 3: What's the network that it goes over to notify these officers?
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  Speaker 5: What network is that?
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  Speaker 3: Is that a block network? That's got to be a
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  Speaker 3: tremendously expensive venture.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure it's a tremendously expensive adventure to have
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  Speaker 2: a police car and a computer in the car. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: we should just eliminate the police department. It's tremendously expensive
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  Speaker 2: to have one.
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  Speaker 3: I remember when we got away with having a constable.
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  Speaker 2: You know what? Do you understand how busy these officers are?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have any clue? I mean, you're saying this
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  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. I can tell you for a fact
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  Speaker 2: that you have no idea how busy the Austintown Police
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  Speaker 2: Department is.
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  Speaker 3: Let's put a flock camera in front of every speedway.
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  Speaker 7: In the area and see how much time a cop
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  Speaker 7: spends there.
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  Speaker 2: You're totally, do you know how busy the Austintown Police
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  Speaker 2: Department is on the night shift, the overnight shift? Do
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  Speaker 2: you have any idea how many calls are coming in?
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that they're pretty active.
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  Speaker 2: Right. And you want to come on here and act
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  Speaker 2: like we can do it with a constable and sit
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  Speaker 2: at the sheet station. Your comments are an insult to
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  Speaker 2: the officers and just frankly, ass nine. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 1: Ronnie.
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  Speaker 6: I've got a question about spot cameras, but I've got
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  Speaker 6: to ask you something first. When did you transgender?
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  Speaker 2: Just during the last commercial break.
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  Speaker 6: It must have been, like, last weekend, because it sounds
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  Speaker 6: like you've been, like, your time of the month this
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  Speaker 6: last couple days, man. You've been fired up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it is that time for me, you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I can't help it.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that's one of the things they don't tell you
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  Speaker 6: when you're transgender, that this is going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, you know you find me attractive now.
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  Speaker 6: No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, come on. You're asking.
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  Speaker 6: Now that you're biatching every five minutes, yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 6: find you attractive at all.
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  Speaker 2: No, but you find me very interesting. Very interesting.
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  Speaker 6: You're getting kind of irritating with this. Honestly, Ronnie, people
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  Speaker 6: are calling in. Alex, several callers came in and made
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  Speaker 6: perfectly good points about... Just the fact that, like, when
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  Speaker 6: the next COVID comes and there are 600 cameras.
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  Speaker 2: And they're following you. Here we go. Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 2: Your argument isn't what's happening. Your argument is, well, maybe
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  Speaker 2: this could happen or maybe that could happen. Well, how
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  Speaker 2: do you go against any argument that's dealing with nothing
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  Speaker 2: but hypotheticals that aren't even realistic, are not even realistic
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  Speaker 2: on flock cameras? If you want to talk about COVID,
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  Speaker 2: you want to talk about digital currency in Canada, not
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  Speaker 2: flock cameras. Flock cameras weren't used. What are flock cameras
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  Speaker 2: going to say? Oh, hey, whatever. COVID, Ron went to
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  Speaker 2: the McDonald's. Good luck with that.
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  Speaker 6: Ronnie, the right now determines what happens in the future.
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  Speaker 6: If you let these, if those governments, And you know
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  Speaker 6: the government's involved. You know what happened with the deep
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  Speaker 6: state and everything else, like with Trump. There's evil people.
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  Speaker 6: And next COVID, when, you know, everything's shut down, just like..
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to catch a criminal? Do you want
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  Speaker 2: to give technology to your police department to be able
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  Speaker 2: to catch criminals in your community?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Ronnie.
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  Speaker 2: Yes or no? I'm not speculating. I'm saying here's what
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  Speaker 2: flock cameras are doing right now, and here's how they're used.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you factually this is what they do as
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  Speaker 2: a tool and how they are used. I'm telling you
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  Speaker 2: they've been in this community, in this listening area, for
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  Speaker 2: a considerable amount of time. And you haven't had any
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  Speaker 2: of this BS that people have speculated about. But it
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  Speaker 2: has helped capture criminals. So let's deal with reality instead
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  Speaker 2: of this ridiculous speculation. i'm dealing with reality.
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  Speaker 6: I i agree with you that there are good things
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  Speaker 6: that could come from this but i i do believe
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  Speaker 6: that you're being very close-minded you're damn.
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  Speaker 2: Right i am Because it's ridiculous. Hypothetical arguments on this
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  Speaker 2: are ridiculous.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, even Emmanuel, I agree with him today.
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  Speaker 2: That's how ridiculous these arguments are.
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  Speaker 6: No, no, you got to.
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  Speaker 2: OK, so would you be more comfortable if we eliminated
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  Speaker 2: flock cameras and now it's more difficult for the police
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  Speaker 2: to catch people, criminals? We ignore the technology. Would you
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  Speaker 2: also prefer us to tell officers you can't sit and
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  Speaker 2: run a license plate on your leads computer? How much
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  Speaker 2: technology do you want to take out of the patrol car?
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  Speaker 2: That makes a patrol officer more efficient and better at
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  Speaker 2: doing their job. How much do you want to do?
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  Speaker 2: Should we eliminate radar guns for speeders? What do you
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  Speaker 2: want to do? That's all technology.
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  Speaker 6: I am open-minded. I believe there's good and bad.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, name any of the bad right now with flock cameras. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I will name it. You had some officers that abused them.
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  Speaker 2: Not locally, but you've had in communities offices that abused them.
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  Speaker 2: What happened to those officers? They were fired and they
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  Speaker 2: faced charges as a result of it. Just as you
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  Speaker 2: would be if you abused the lead's computer. And that's
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  Speaker 2: the way it should be. Are you for making a
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  Speaker 2: police officer more efficient and easier to catch a fleeing
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  Speaker 2: criminal's car? The guy might have broke the law in
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  Speaker 2: Niles and is fleeing through Austintown. And as a result
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  Speaker 2: of flock cameras, you can apprehend the guy that just
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  Speaker 2: shot somebody. Does that bother you? Absolutely. So let's deal
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  Speaker 2: with the reality of what they do. I want to
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  Speaker 2: only deal with reality. I don't want to deal with speculation,
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  Speaker 2: because it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 6: Well, like I said, the decisions we make now in society,
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  Speaker 6: 10 years, 20 years down the road, with different governments,
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  Speaker 6: like one of the last callers says, I mean, we
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  Speaker 6: could be losing our freedom. So we must investigate, not
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  Speaker 6: just say, these are good, it's good, it's good, it's good. No,
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  Speaker 6: you've got to look at the good and the bad, Ronnie.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Appreciate it. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 5: Hey.
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  Speaker 9: Is this Ron?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it is. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 10: Hey, my name is Denise. The reason I have a
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  Speaker 10: problem myself with the flock cameras are at a local level.
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  Speaker 11: You never get.
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  Speaker 10: Transparency from our local government officials, specifically the trustees of
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  Speaker 10: Austin Town.
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  Speaker 12: And then they ask for more money by means of,
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  Speaker 12: you know, more levies.
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  Speaker 11: We say, okay, we want you to add more police
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  Speaker 11: officers to the force.
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  Speaker 10: We want you to put air conditioning in the buildings.
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  Speaker 12: We want you to upgrade the facilities.
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  Speaker 10: Here's the money.
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  Speaker 11: Now they want to do this.
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  Speaker 10: Do you realize that it takes away from the confidence
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  Speaker 10: that we have as residents of Austintown in our leadership?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, it does not. Did you? OK, let me
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  Speaker 2: ask you a question. Did you vote for those people
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  Speaker 2: for trustee? Yes or no?
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  Speaker 10: No, no.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they were elected, right?
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  Speaker 10: They were elected by majority.
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  Speaker 2: OK. And is that how our system works?
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  Speaker 13: Exactly.
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  Speaker 10: That is how our system works.
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  Speaker 2: All right. And you have a police chief. Is that
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  Speaker 2: not accurate also in Austintown?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 9: All right.
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  Speaker 2: And so if the police department says we can use
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  Speaker 2: this tool with our minimum staffing that they have, you
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  Speaker 2: passed a police levy. You passed that police levy because
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  Speaker 2: the police department, as I said, was a victim of inflation.
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  Speaker 2: And I can tell you, no one pays more attention.
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  Speaker 2: To what goes on in that township than I do
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  Speaker 2: in the budget. And I'm here to tell you something.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell it to you specifically. Once again, I looked
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  Speaker 2: at that budget. I analyzed it. And quite frankly, my son,
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  Speaker 2: who is not a member of the Austin Police Department
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  Speaker 2: once again, but is a police officer, said, Dad, you're
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  Speaker 2: missing it. They don't have enough officers for guys to
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  Speaker 2: take vacation time, to take days off, the overtime. He
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  Speaker 2: went through it step by step on how they needed it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not done because you're the one complaining. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 10: I'm just saying this is why.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no. So additional money was needed to maintain overtime.
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  Speaker 2: The cars, the officers, and to add some officers, not
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  Speaker 2: a bunch. They were only talking to adding a few
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  Speaker 2: officers to that police department. So now they have this option. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if the flock cameras are from a grant.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that. Or I'm not sure how they're
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  Speaker 2: being paid for. I don't know. But the flock cameras
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  Speaker 2: are there, and they do make your community safer and
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  Speaker 2: an officer more efficient. I agree with you there. So
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  Speaker 2: what's the problem?
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  Speaker 7: I agree with that.
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  Speaker 10: So the problem gets back to originally when we voted
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  Speaker 10: for this levy or voted against the levy, that we
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  Speaker 10: were told the money is going to be used for this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's what it's being used for, the police department.
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  Speaker 2: You voted for a police levy, and that is being
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  Speaker 2: used in the police department.
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  Speaker 10: But that is not what we were told. They were
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  Speaker 10: going to be purchasing cameras. And this is very typical
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  Speaker 10: of Austintown, and I'm sure you watch it just as
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  Speaker 10: much as I have.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's typical at all. Austintown, you passed
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  Speaker 2: a police levy. What did you think the money would
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  Speaker 2: be for?
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  Speaker 10: They said very specifically what it would be for. They
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  Speaker 10: needed to hire more officers. They needed to upgrade their
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  Speaker 10: vehicles and take care of some air conditioning and.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff in the office. You're leaving one important thing out
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  Speaker 2: that they said. And technology. And they did say technology.
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  Speaker 2: This is technology.
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  Speaker 12: But this is.
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  Speaker 10: Not a one-time purchase. This is an ongoing cost.
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  Speaker 2: So?
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  Speaker 10: That runs anywhere from $ 2, 000 to $ 3, 000 a camera per year.
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  Speaker 2: So? Hang on, hang on. Stand by.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Stand by. All right, let me go back and let's see.
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  Speaker 2: I think I was here. Was I talking to you? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So your community says, we have this technology
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  Speaker 2: that makes our minimum staffing still, because their goal with
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  Speaker 2: your levy was to replace officers that retired to try
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  Speaker 2: to get close to 40 officers. It wasn't to hire
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  Speaker 2: 50 or ultimate staffing. And now this technology makes all
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  Speaker 2: those officers... more efficient at dealing with fleeing criminals. How
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  Speaker 2: is that a bad thing? And it's money well spent.
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  Speaker 2: It's an expense. But is it an expense that benefits
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  Speaker 2: your community in keeping it safer and money well spent
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  Speaker 2: that you're paying in your tax dollars? I think it is.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I'm not saying that it would necessarily be a
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  Speaker 10: detriment to the township. But what I am saying is
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  Speaker 10: it's an ongoing problem.
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  Speaker 2: So this costs, you know, like, okay.
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  Speaker 11: So we have what, like six of them now?
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  Speaker 10: And I did look it up, and flock cameras run
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  Speaker 10: between $ 2, 500.
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  Speaker 12: And $ 3, 000.
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  Speaker 10: Per camera per year to monitor, and they run $ 250
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  Speaker 10: to $ 350 to install.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty cheap if you ask me for a year.
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  Speaker 10: Well, regardless of that, you want 16 of them.
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  Speaker 11: Are you going to pay the increase in the taxes?
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  Speaker 2: If it was up to me, they're only getting six.
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  Speaker 9: Right.
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  Speaker 10: And you want 16 of them.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what I want.
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  Speaker 10: This is not a one-time cost.
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  Speaker 11: We're not saying, okay, we're going to buy you a
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  Speaker 11: new car.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not in charge. They're getting just six of them.
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  Speaker 2: I wish they would get more. I think they're worth it.
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  Speaker 2: But they're only getting six, so let's deal with reality.
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  Speaker 2: They're getting six. Right.
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  Speaker 11: But my complaint is that it's This is not a
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  Speaker 11: one-time thing. We did not go out and buy a
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  Speaker 11: new computer system. We did not go out and buy
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  Speaker 11: new taser guns. We did not go out and buy
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  Speaker 11: new cars. We are subscribing to an ongoing..
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  Speaker 2: Do you think there's an ongoing cost to have a
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Leeds computer in a police car?
• 18:58
  Speaker 10: I don't know. I couldn't tell you.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: That, Ron.
• 19:00
  Speaker 9: I'm sorry.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a computer in there, and it's hooked up, obviously,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: to the Internet, and there would have to be a
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: cost associated with that, would there not be? Let's use
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: some common sense. Yes or no?
• 19:10
  Speaker 14: Well..
• 19:10
  Speaker 10: Well, yeah, I mean, I would.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Well, that would be an ongoing cost. Maybe we should
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: eliminate that, too.
• 19:17
  Speaker 11: Well, we're not talking about that.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: No, but I mean, some ongoing costs are well worth it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I got ongoing costs at my home, just as you do.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Do you have a cell phone? How many cops have
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: cell phones provided by the department? There's an ongoing cost.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe we should eliminate all those and say, you use
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: your own cell phone.
• 19:38
  Speaker 11: If they've got computers, I don't know what they need
• 19:40
  Speaker 11: a cell phone for. Maybe that's a whole nother ball
• 19:42
  Speaker 11: game but the thought is what what i'm getting back
• 19:46
  Speaker 11: to this as this is an ongoing increasing this is
• 19:51
  Speaker 11: not a one-time purchase so when they came to us
• 19:55
  Speaker 11: and we voted it down the first time and then
• 19:57
  Speaker 11: they came back and they.
• 19:58
  Speaker 10: Said look this is where we're at and we voted
• 20:01
  Speaker 10: it in this the residents of austintown did not sign
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: up for Oh, well, we're going to have to keep
• 20:08
  Speaker 10: increasing your taxes because this is going to keep costing
• 20:10
  Speaker 10: more and more money.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: They're not increasing your taxes. They're using their existing budget
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: to pay for these. They're not charging you any more.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Listen to what they're saying. We are making our officers
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: more efficient with the technology that we're offering. Do you
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: support that to be able to catch fleeing criminals in
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: your community?
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: I do support that.
• 20:34
  Speaker 12: But then again, Ron, you have to remember, you know,
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: according to the National City Statistics, that we are a
• 20:40
  Speaker 12: B-plus rating for crime. Austin town, Ohio is a B plus.
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: Solid rating for crime.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: Look it up on Google.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: So I understand we have.
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: Issues that we need to deal with.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Right. And we have growing issues. We have growing issues
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: with crime in this country that we're dealing with, including
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: in Austin town issues like we've never seen before. Whether
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: it's the shooting over in College Park that took place,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the stealing of the ATM, or some of the vicious
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: criminals that come through the township. It is a reality.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: And if you want to say, well, we've got a
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: B-plus rating, then you should be commending your police department
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: for having such a good rating. Because obviously..
• 21:26
  Speaker 10: I never said anything badly about the police department.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: But you want to... hog tie him on technology and
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: not let him use something that can keep all our
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: officers safer.
• 21:36
  Speaker 10: I don't want to hog tie the police department in
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: any respect.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: It keeps them much safer.
• 21:40
  Speaker 11: I would like to say that I believe that the
• 21:42
  Speaker 11: trustees are not being.
• 21:44
  Speaker 12: As clear as they should be.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I think they're being very clear that if you don't,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: you vote them out of office. All right. I will
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: be the first guy to say I don't think there's
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: anything wrong with what any of these trustees did. Only
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: two of them. Actually, two of them voted. I don't
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: have any problem with what Shepis did or with Monica
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: did in voting for this. The other person, I think, abstained.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: But needless to say, I have no beef with it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I'll defend him and support it. and the police chief
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: and the decisions to make. I think it makes your
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: officers safer and your community safer and more efficient. It
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: is technology. The arguments I'm hearing are ridiculous. You're on
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: the air. Oops, I'm sorry. You're on the air.
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: Mr. Verve, were you up at 5 o'clock this morning
• 22:35
  Speaker 8: on the computer trying to find out what the percentage
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: of people are that go for this and are against it?
• 22:43
  Speaker 8: I think you were. And you found out that there
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: were a lot of people against it. So you're going
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: to put it on the air. You're doing a good job.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Hang on.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Hang on.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Hang on. Hang on. I got to do my break.
• 22:58
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• 23:04
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• 23:09
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• 23:12
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• 23:16
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• 23:19
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• 23:22
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• 23:29
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• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Under a new state law, school districts must submit their
• 23:36
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• 23:42
  Speaker 1: spell out acceptable and prohibited uses of AI for students
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• 24:13
  Speaker 2: News Radio 570, WKVN 535. No, it's just because they're
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: putting you in my community, and I think people are
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: just paranoid goofballs on the whole thing. I genuinely do.
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: No, they're not paranoid at all. The fellow that popped
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: into your station there, I agree with him. Who was that?
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: I don't know who it was.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, the guy in the studio? It was Paranoid Nutjob.
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: It was his clone. I know it was his clone
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: that came in.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Paranoid Nutjob is his name.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: No, not at all. Not at all. He is right on.
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: And the people that ask you the what ifs and
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: the how comes, I want that every day of your show.
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: I want that because those are the journalists out there
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: that don't have the degrees, but they're asking the question.
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: That's how this country got to where it is at,
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: except for the last 10 years.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: But it amazes me how many people are experts on
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: policing when they have no background or knowledge in it.
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: No, I wouldn't be a cop if you paid me
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: $ 200, 000 a year. I wouldn't be a cop.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: But this is to apprehend criminals.
• 25:29
  Speaker 14: I get it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: I get it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, I explained it a million times. So why
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: would you want to take that?
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: I learned the streets are right out there. Why would
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: you want to take your tool away? I don't care.
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: You know, you try to make Canfield sound so great.
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: They're all having a lot of problems. And these police
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: should have whatever's necessary at their disposal. But when those
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: people gathered and they said, we're going to need money
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: for new cars and new trucks. But then they said technology.
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: That leaves a window wide open. Because the next technology
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: is right around the corner. And we don't even know
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: what that's going to be.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you something. In this industry that
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting in here today, they are spending a gazillion dollars,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I heard, on technology. I believe you.
• 26:17
  Speaker 13: Yes, of course.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: And things are changing at lightning speed from a technological standpoint,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the likes of which I've never seen.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: Just keep that in mind.
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: I believe you a thousand percent. We have come so
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: far in the past... 20 years.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: One day, and I want you to hear this because
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I know a lot about technology. One day, now listen
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: to me, okay? Are you paying attention? One day... You'll
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: be able to turn on your television, and instead of
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: being in black and white, it will have a colored
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: picture on it. The picture will be in color. One day,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: now listen to me carefully. One day, now listen to
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: me carefully. One day, you'll be able to actually, you
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: will have a phone like Dick Tracy that will not
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: have a wire or anything that you'll be able to
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: communicate from your car, even on a watch. One day
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: that will happen. You mark my word.
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: I'm paying attention. I'm paying attention.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: All right, I got to go.
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, not wait. You probably got one
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: more thing before you go.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: What is it? What is it?
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: The thing that frustrates me the most about all this
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: is that the businesses that are in Austintown How many
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: of them are not paying a dime for that coverage
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: that they want from the police department?
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: All of this falls on the homeowner.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: All of these businesses out there that..
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: They..
• 27:40
  Speaker 15: Backstreamed that.
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: For 10 years, 15 years.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: And they're not even paying it. That's why the people
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: are pissed off.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: No, they're not? You're wrong about that?
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: No, no, I'm not wrong.
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: Yes, you are.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Hey, Meyer, Walmart, Home Depot, they all pay property taxes.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: And guess what? They don't get to vote yes or
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: no on them.
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: They just got to pay them. Okay, goodbye.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Goodbye. It's just ridiculousness now. They all pay the property taxes.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: They don't even get to vote yes or no because
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: individuals vote on those. But they all pay them. And
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: you know what? If you're stealing from Walmarts or Meijer,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: the cops should show up. That's what they're there for.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: And that's crime. And we should be concerned about it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: You're on the air. Got to go quick. Yes, I'm
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: running out of time. I want to get as many
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: folks on as I can. Yes. It's all right.
• 28:42
  Speaker 15: Today we lost time to talk about hypotheticals.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about a couple of facts.
• 28:47
  Speaker 15: And I agree, it can't help the police. But I'm
• 28:50
  Speaker 15: going to go once to the analogy of a dog
• 28:54
  Speaker 15: on a cane to a tree. You take a link
• 28:57
  Speaker 15: out every now and then. Sooner or later, that dog
• 28:59
  Speaker 15: stuck to the tree. It's all about surveillance, and it's
• 29:02
  Speaker 15: all about Big Brother. We have cameras around. We have
• 29:06
  Speaker 15: all that. But if you go onto the website of Flock,
• 29:11
  Speaker 15: they actually tell you they're coming out with a technology
• 29:13
  Speaker 15: for Bluetooth. So you drive by their slot camera. They've
• 29:16
  Speaker 15: got your Bluetooth on your phone. They've got the Bluetooth
• 29:19
  Speaker 15: in your car. They can read everything you have. It's
• 29:21
  Speaker 15: all about Big Brother watching you.
• 29:24
  Speaker 13: And that's what I don't like about them.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: None of that is happening right now. These are all
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: hypothetical nonsense that you're spewing.
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: No, no, no.
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: Their website actually says..
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I'm talking to you. Do you live in Austintown? You
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: said yes, right? The fly cameras that your community is
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: buying don't do any of the things that you mentioned,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: do they?
• 29:48
  Speaker 10: Do you know that?
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do know that. Yes, I am.
• 29:53
  Speaker 15: So what keeps them from doing a software update than
• 29:58
  Speaker 15: it does?
• 30:00
  Speaker 14: Hold on.
• 30:01
  Speaker 15: What keeps someone from hacking into them and following someone?
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: First of all... You know it's possible.
• 30:10
  Speaker 15: Because some hackers are smart idiots.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: You're a paranoid nut.
• 30:16
  Speaker 14: No, I'm not.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Do you want your police department to have..
• 30:19
  Speaker 15: I like small government, not big government.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: I don't like people spying on me.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Well, do you like the police to be efficient and
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: be able to keep your community safe and apprehend criminals?
• 30:31
  Speaker 15: They do a great job.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I have no problem. You're on the air. He's a
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: paranoid nut. Hello.
• 30:36
  Speaker 10: Hey, Ron.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 30:39
  Speaker 13: I really believe you're the one that's paranoid.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not at all.
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: Because..
• 30:43
  Speaker 13: No, you have to be, because... You're the one that said,
• 30:50
  Speaker 13: you know, if somebody stole your car or somebody murdered somebody,
• 30:54
  Speaker 13: if this, this, that, and the other, how could you
• 30:58
  Speaker 13: sit there and complain about somebody that doesn't want that
• 31:02
  Speaker 13: kind of surveillance going out in our public space? Everybody
• 31:07
  Speaker 13: going to work every day and doing their thing. How
• 31:10
  Speaker 13: could you be more paranoid about having flock cameras to
• 31:14
  Speaker 13: do more against civilians versus criminals?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Well, what are they doing against you? I don't get it.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Tell me what they're doing against you. I don't get it, Ron.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: What are they doing against you? Tell me.
• 31:26
  Speaker 13: When you put up flock cameras against... What that gentleman
• 31:31
  Speaker 13: just said.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: You tell me right now. You go in Canfield. Do
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: you ever drive in Canfield?
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: What has a flock camera done to you?
• 31:42
  Speaker 13: I wouldn't know until they fucking came to me.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Don't use that foul language on the air. That's it.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: You're on the air.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Hello.
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: Hey, it's interesting that it seems like the frustration with
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: you and the callers is. that they're finally figuring out
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: that you are a liberal hosting a conservative talk show.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what? You know what I figured out?
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: That you're an idiot and you're not on the air.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: But you are. Hello.
• 32:09
  Speaker 14: Hello, Ron.
• 32:10
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 32:12
  Speaker 14: Just a couple of facts. I've been listening to this.
• 32:15
  Speaker 14: Number one, you were talking about privacy. The courts have
• 32:19
  Speaker 14: ruled where you're out in public, you have no right
• 32:23
  Speaker 14: to privacy. The only right to privacy you have is
• 32:26
  Speaker 14: in your own home.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: That is true. You are correct.
• 32:29
  Speaker 14: So when Alex gave that example of somebody looking in
• 32:33
  Speaker 14: your window and trying to compare it to a flock camera,
• 32:37
  Speaker 14: it's called being a peeping Tom. It's a little bit
• 32:39
  Speaker 14: different than a flock camera. You know, so there is
• 32:44
  Speaker 14: no right to privacy when you're out on the street.
• 32:48
  Speaker 14: And I'm listening to all these people. So you know what?
• 32:50
  Speaker 14: You had your neighbor or your friend say, And they're
• 32:53
  Speaker 14: talking about surveillance. So I looked it up. A, in
• 32:58
  Speaker 14: order for the government to listen to your call, they
• 33:01
  Speaker 14: have to get a warrant. And that warrant has to
• 33:04
  Speaker 14: be limited to kidnapping, terrorism, or child prostitution. That's all
• 33:10
  Speaker 14: they can do. The thought that they're sitting there listening
• 33:13
  Speaker 14: to your pizza order of all the people in this
• 33:17
  Speaker 14: country is just absurd.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 33:19
  Speaker 14: I mean, if people are worried about that..
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: They would rather a criminal get away in their community
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: than making their police more efficient. It's unbelievable to me
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the paranoia that I'm hearing from people. And quite frankly,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: this cell phone that I have here now, when I
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Google stuff, it knows more about me than any flock
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: camera will ever know about me. I have no concern.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: As I say, you could put four flock cameras on
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: my street. I'm not worried about it.
• 33:52
  Speaker 14: And I'm waiting for that first person to call and
• 33:54
  Speaker 14: give an example of when their rights were... When something
• 33:59
  Speaker 14: happened because of a phone call they made and somebody
• 34:03
  Speaker 14: knocked on their door and arrested them. I mean, the
• 34:05
  Speaker 14: paranoia level is just incredible.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
• 34:09
  Speaker 14: And it's all what if. You know, none of it's actual.
• 34:12
  Speaker 14: You know, if you what if, you can what if
• 34:15
  Speaker 14: just about anything.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: That is correct.
• 34:16
  Speaker 14: And come up with the worst possible scenario. I'm talking
• 34:19
  Speaker 14: about right now. You have no rights in public or privacy.
• 34:23
  Speaker 14: And I can't think of a single example where anybody's
• 34:26
  Speaker 14: ever had their rights violated. So I'm not quite sure
• 34:29
  Speaker 14: what all those calls were about.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: You know, from a legal standpoint, you are correct. I
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: dropped the ball there, and I should have. That should
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: have occurred to me. My professors would be upset with me.
• 34:43
  Speaker 14: Well, thank you for your time.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Thank you. You're on the air.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: If you and Kim Zuckoon and Dr. Jesus had better surveillance...
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: You wouldn't be using the effing word or the flocking word.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Sir, it's flock cameras with an L. Flock cameras. All right.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Please pronounce it correctly. Flock. You're on air.
• 35:12
  Speaker 13: Ronald.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, Ted. Running short on time.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: I'm just calling to give you some moral support because.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I'm on your side. Well, actually, the last guy that called,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I really did drop the ball. I'm disappointed in myself
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: on the right to privacy. I should have mentioned that.
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: It's a common sense thing, Ron.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: Paranoia, it's where our world's heading, conspiracy theorists. But let
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: me put it to you this way. There's few people
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: as wise as you and I and a few other folks.
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: So we're on the right side.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, you get these guys. Oh, you're a liberal
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: and all this. This guy's just you're an idiot. And
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: yet he doesn't he doesn't even remotely know me because,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: you know, I do. So I do support the flock
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: cameras and I do think it will it will benefit
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: the community. And I think people will see that it has.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: And the paranoia hasn't affected anybody with them here that
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: are currently the what ifs are nonsense. And I don't
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: think a lot of people realize what the police are
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: up against.
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  Speaker 5: As a husband, as a father, an uncle, a son,
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: I want nothing more than more fly cameras to protect
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: the women in my family from the evil that exists
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: in this world.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: And there's plenty of it, I'm here to tell you.
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: There's plenty of it.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: All right, buddy. I just wanted to give you some
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: moral support because over the last two days, you've been
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: worked up.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: You've got to call me tomorrow because I've got to
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: talk about that. I enjoyed that conversation last night. That
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: was a great conversation.
• 36:42
  Speaker 14: I did, too.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: I'll call you tomorrow. I've been painting all day.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Let's review it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: I've been here listening to the Long World program.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Let's review it. I enjoyed that immensely. I thank you.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: All right. You're on the air.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: I heard you're a turncoat.
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: I am.
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: After yesterday's conversation, I haven't been listening because I have
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: been having a very hard time putting up with what
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: you're saying. I heard your turncoat. Wow, my turncoat. And
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: you're not giving enough credit to what flock cameras can do.
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: Flock cameras are also hackable. Anybody can hack them.
• 37:19
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: Anybody can hack them.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: When have they been hacked?
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: They've been hacked all over the country.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Where?
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: All over the country.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: But where? Specifically where? Tell me where the last time
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: it was hacked.
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: I haven't looked up where they are, but I know
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: for a fact that they've been hacked. And there's no
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: camera in this country that can't be hacked. Because I
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: install them and I know what they can do.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: You don't install the flock cameras. You install private security cameras.
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: There's the same thing. Put on a network.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Anything you put on.
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: A network could be hacked. Anything. Anything.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: And you're paranoid about a flock. So you're against flock
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: cameras in your community?
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: I'm just saying it takes away more of my privacy. Absolutely,
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: I am.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't take anything away from your privacy.
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: It sure does.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Well, how does it take it?
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: Because every time I go by that flock camera, it
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: records it. It goes on. If that flock camera.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Was there only. Every time you drive down a street,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: somebody's camera records you.
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: Your argument would be valid if all that flock camera
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: did was be.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Sent to our police department. You are a paranoid nut.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: you're saying things that are totally inaccurate.
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: National database it's not just fed to our our our
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: police department instead.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: What happens okay tell me how does it work if
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: a criminal drives by a flock camera in austintown fleeing
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: from a bank robbery what happens.
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: It records everything that goes on in that video.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: But what but what does it do because it's not.
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: Related it's not it's not It is not only going
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: to pick up the mic, it's going to pick up
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: all the video.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Okay. What does it do if a criminal drives by
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the flock camera? What does it do?
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: It picks up the license plate. It picks up the
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: video of the car. It picks up the video of
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: a car going the opposite direction.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: And what if anybody would be standing in front of
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: the camera?
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: We're wasting time. Does that camera notify the police to
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: say immediately?
• 39:26
  Speaker 15: No, You have to look it up.
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: Somebody has to look it up.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: So you can notify an officer immediately that that car
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: just passed this camera that we're looking for?
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: No.
• 39:39
  Speaker 14: Really?
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: No, it's all recorded on a database.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's not recorded. Does it notify the officer?
• 39:45
  Speaker 9: No.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, so what do they do? What do they do?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Call them the next day?
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: They have to search. They have to search a database
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: in order to find the license plate that they're looking for.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: No, if your license plate pops up on that database,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: you don't think the notification goes out immediately? Yes or no.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: These are yes or no questions. it's a yes or
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: no question if I drive.
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: By it has to go to a central database I'm.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Not asking you a question does it notify the cop
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: immediately of where you are no when does it notify
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: him then when the cop looks it up they have to.
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: Do a search they have to do a search.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Alright you don't understand it it's a total waste of
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: time A complete waste of time. It tracks your plate.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: It takes a picture of your plate. This is really sad.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: It's really pathetic. It's pathetic how paranoid people are. It
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: really is very, very troubling.
• 41:03
  Speaker 9: One moment, one crash, one injury. It can take away everything.
• 41:09
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• 41:13
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• 41:16
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• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Looking to upgrade your home? This is Ron Verb calling.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: And Ron Verb, 555 News Radio 570. It's just like
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: the last caller. Didn't even know what he was talking about.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Because that flock camera is going to notify the guy
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: in the cruiser, either through text message or on the computer,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: that that car just passed that flock camera. That's why
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: they're effective. That's why they work. They don't record a
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: video that you got to go watch the next day.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: That doesn't solve the problem. It's how they catch people
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: fleeing that apprehended a child, stole a car, robbed a bank.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: whether that's in Niles fleeing to Austintown or whatever the
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: case might be, or even if it's somebody that's gotten
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: away days ago from some other area and their plate
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: comes up in the system. It is a dangerous world
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: out there, and there's a lot of paranoid people. And
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I think you can go to such paranoid extremes, it's ridiculous.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: then I don't know why any of those people have
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: a cell phone with GPS on it. As I say, incidentally,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I know the guy that invented the GPS on his
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: cell phone. I know him personally. Whether that's GPS on
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: your cell phone and how that tracks you, how if
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: you Google anything and how you get ads about that
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff, A lot of your privacy, well, you
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: give it up on your cell phone. It knows more
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: about you than any flock camera ever will. Ring cameras,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: just about everybody has them at their home. They're used
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: by people. A lot of times the police ask the
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: person who has them, hey, can we look at that,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: see what's going on? on with the person breaking in
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: in the community, in your street or whatever. Making your
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: police department more efficient, apprehending fleeing criminals. And you would
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: be opposed to it, but sheer paranoia or speculation has
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: absolutely nothing to do with reality. You would attack your
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: money well spent from your police levy. You would attack
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: your trustees that make a decision In the best interest
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: of their community to make it a safer community for
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: its citizens. It's unbelievable. More tomorrow. News Radio 570 WKVN
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: and Ron Verb from the Kingdom of Mahoning. Don't turn around.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Your shadow could be following you. Be very, very careful.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Identity theft can cost more than you think.