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S2 Ep6 - Raine Schacher: The Unexpected Road to Maker · The Booth Juice Creative Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: All the juice straight from the makeup booth.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Booth Juice.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to another episode of The Booth Juice.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_00: Today I'm a little bit out of my depth.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_00: I am on the other side of the booth and I'm going to be interviewed by my amazing mum Donna.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: But before we get into that, I do have a few little shout-outs.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_00: First one, some of our besties, Rex and Ruby, are hitting the road today to start their new chapter down south.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: So I just want to say best of luck, so proud of you guys.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, these guys have been such a massive part of my life.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: Ruby and I have been little dance partners since we were about seven.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: We used to do competitions and everything alongside being one of my best friends at school.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_00: And Rex and I have known each other since primary school or through high school.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_00: We lived together in a share house after school, and he was even one of the groomsmen in our wedding.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: So we love them very much and we wish them safe travels.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: Also, we're actually recording on the 17th, but as of by the time you're listening to this, it will have been my mum's birthday.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_00: So happy birthday to you.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_00: She is the best person to be interviewing me today, so we might jump straight into it after this loud car.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: Alrighty, we are switching it up today.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna ask Rain the questions because um those of you that don't know, she's been running Maker now for six years.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um there's a bit of a backstory which I will touch on, but we have said it many, many times.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_01: So you can go back to episode one if you want to find out the roots of how it all began.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, we'll touch on that as we go through.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um every day I reckon someone in that walks into the maker store asks Rain if she's creative, and she humbly says, Oh no, no, no, I just run the store and uh mum's the artist and whatever.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: But honestly, you can't run a store like this and um support over a hundred makers throughout the country if you are not creative.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: So just want to let you know um that we are immensely proud of you for pivoting when you had to, like many other people in the world uh during the pandemic.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um you pivoted in the best possible way um using your creativity.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, today we're gonna ask you some questions about your creative journey.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um by the way, I haven't had any prep for this, like I have no idea what's coming, so yeah.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_01: Scrap in.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: For those that have wonder what rain was like as a little kid.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_01: I think most people evolve from being a little kid to being an adult, and they could come across as a completely different person.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: Rain is one of those exceptions that the person you know now as an adult is literally just an older version of the child that she was.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_01: So she gets excited the way a two-year-old gets excited, she dresses like a seven-year-old, she still um gets anxious going into woolies, uh, and yet she'll stand on a stage and talk in front of like a million people.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: So she, as a young child, was just this ball of energy.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_01: We called her Hurricane because she would just through a room at hello, hello, hello, hello.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_01: And and she's no different now, like that is how she is.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_01: She can capture a room with a smile and a presence, and um, she had always done that from a young age.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_01: She spent the first four years of her life living in a bus, three of those.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, well, one year when she was a baby, we were at home having her, but then we got on the road soon after that, and so potentially is why you're such an old soul now, because for the first couple of years, your best friends were grey nomads, so they still are, yeah.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_01: You loved old people and they loved you, and it was a bit of reproof for me because living in a caravan park or living in a bus, you are one-on-one with your daughter every minute of every day, and um oh, nothing's changed there, too.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_01: Lucky we get along.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, anyway, the the grandies in the caravan parks that were missing, their grandchildren absolutely lapped her up.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: So there was always someone to watch her show and watch her dance or play picnics with her, or yeah, so she captivated everyone and and still is, so very, very proud of you.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and also very proud of you for starting the podcast.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: So when you said you wanted to do it, I'm very much the mum that goes, yeah, sweet, you'll be fine, you'll be excellent, whatever, do it.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I really love how you love uh learning about people, not just who they are, where they work now, what they wear, who their friends are.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_01: You care deeply, as I do, I think you can get that from me, um, about their life before the present, you know, like some people are old and only get looked upon as old.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_01: And I look at old people like they're a wealth of experience, and you know, I don't look down on old people because they're old.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_01: I think how cool, they've been here a lot longer than us, they've done cool shit, should be learning.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_01: And honestly, the world living in the world now is not as cool as it used to be.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: So, generally, these people have got great stories, and I love that you're tapping into that and finding um finding people in our awesome little community that will come and sit here with you, and you can ask them questions, and and we can all find out more about these cool people in our community and and where they came from because Port Douglas is very transient and full of people that perhaps didn't grow up here, so they all have a life from somewhere else.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I love that about people.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: I also think it's like I like resisting the um, you know, everything's so fast nowadays and the attention span so short and all of that, and I enjoy resisting it because I am fascinated by people and I do want to know their stories and I want to know what makes them tick, and I I like knowing like why they think that way or whatever.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, I think it's it's almost rebelling against the the quick Instagram algorithm as well.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_01: And there's nothing I hate more than than people that just take people at face value like it's like get out of your box and think who was this person before you met them, because there's probably a whole lot more to them.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: So and also that slow process or like the you know, having deeper conversations and longer conversations and stuff is almost the same as makers, you know, ethics as well.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's like having slowly made products that have a story and it's not fast fashion or fast, you know, consumerism.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's hey, this you know, Potter built this brick by brick or whatever, and yeah, so I think what I love about the podcast is it gives a platform to people that aren't necessarily making something tangible like a painting or or a bowl or um a bag or something, but you're having conversations with people that have started other creative ventures, like it might be in the film industry or the radio industry or or whatever.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_01: So I love that too.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: I think you're giving people a chance for and it's not so much about for them to speak about themselves, but it's about for their community to find out who they are and what makes them tick, and you know, when you're not just seeing them in Kohl's or these, but what's going on in their world, and so yeah, thanks for that.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: I thank you, engross every every episode.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, let's switch the tables up and ask you some questions.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: You are creative, I know you're creative.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um you're creative, not just in school and this is how I do it project, but how do I get my parents to come on board with every insane idea?
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_01: So that in itself takes creativity.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: And and my husband.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: Well, how what do you remember of your childhood?
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, well, my earliest memory is making egg carton um computers and stuff out of, you know, when we were in the bus, which was very early days, uh, lots of crafts and stuff.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: But then, you know, growing up was it was always spent outside.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like it was we were very nurtured in the sense of like we live in paradise, you should be outside.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_00: So it was always swimming in the creeks, we had a buggy, quad bikes.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: We were very fortunate to have a group of friends that spent a lot of time in helicopters and in the air and skydiving and boating and camping and all of these adrenaline things.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_00: So um, I think my creativity came from a love of adventure and a love of you know, embracing your life.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you were always so interested in taking photos and recording that and yeah, making little videos.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so yeah, naturally I felt like I needed to capture it because we were doing such cool things.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: So you I grew up with you having a camera constantly and um, you know, mountains of photo albums.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: You were really good at printing photos and stuff, and I loved that idea.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: I loved looking back on my life physically.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, I got a camera at I think 14.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: You gave me.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: I used to use yours for years.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: She had an old mum had an old camera.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I used to bully my friends into well, I wouldn't say bully, I used to pressure my friends into modelling in the backyard.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'd do full-blown shoots because mum had such a good radio cover.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: There were so many kids that had to become radio anchors.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_00: We did lots of radio.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what that I don't know.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: And the weather reporting Shannon Valley.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, documentary.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_00: I reckon we were only 10 doing like that.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: I was reckoning it was 10 when we were in that era, and we would make short films, just like yeah, little news bites and funny things and just dressing up.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_01: Can you come and hold the fan so that we can make it look like it's windy?
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_01: Can you shake the palm tree behind us?
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's windy.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: I vividly remember rearranging the entire lounge room so that I could use the blank wall, and I made my friends' model to the point where I think one friend was dressed in like tiger print and we we did stripes and stuff on her face, and then the other one was like full-blown clam makeup, and you know, just things like that.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: I was constantly like when my friends were over, it was like, Oh, what can we do today?
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: I was always either decorating, styling, photo shoots, short films, yeah, anything that anyone said yes to, really.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_01: So, because of that love, um, you were very lucky to get some um opportunities in high school.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I think like I had some really amazing um mentors growing up, like lots of um like some mum's friends who were in the film industry, you know, he had Cam McGraw who was doing National Geographic and shooting the Olympics, and every time he'd come home and I'd see him, I'd just my eyes would light up and go, What are you working on now?
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: Where have you been?
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and he'd tell me all about his adventures, and same with Alley Kat and a bunch of amazing other people of you know, Alison George, yeah, he's still very much in that scene.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, inspired me so much as a young person to go, oh, there's a career in this.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: So um, photography kind of fell into videography a little bit more as I got older.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, when I was 14, I started a photography business because people were like, Oh, you're good at this, why don't you do it?
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: So I used to get paid like 50 bucks just to shoot people's birthdays.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: Wayne wandered out of her bedroom one night um and said, I I have an ABN now, mum.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_01: I was 14.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_01: I've just been um I've just worked out how to get get an ABN and register business names.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, okay.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: My first business was called reward photography because obviously brain ward, I thought that was very creative.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: Donna being a little bit ahead of her game suggested it should be our apostrophe ward.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: Reward.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: Reward.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh no one got that, by the way, in my age group, and they used to call me our ward photography.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: So, anyway, we changed that to Rainmaker Media at some point, and once I got to uni, but yeah, as a 14-year-old, I would shoot birthday parties.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it was mainly for like the older kids when they'd have parties.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: That was a that was you had an ulterior motive for that.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just wanted to hang out with the cool kids.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: You wanted to go to the house, I just got invited to everything.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: So you decided that if you became the photographer, you'd be able to go to the parties and I would let you and they would invite you.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, pretty much.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: It worked out very well for me.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that photography like it sort of evolved.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like I got more and more jobs, um, never really increased my prices, I just did it for a love of it.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: And then um in high school, I did study film as well.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so there was a lot of opportunities at Mossman High to do with Port Shorts.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, Elliot Davidson was like an amazing teacher that really he really pushed for the film industry, and I'm very, very grateful for him doing that as well.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: So, shout out to Elliot if you're listening.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, so Port Shorts opened a lot of doors, and so I was able to do a lot of masterclasses.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: I got to meet a lot of celebrities.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so um Stephen Curry, who is the ambassador and I guess some sort of an organiser for the Port Shorts Short Film Festival here in Port Douglas.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you got to meet him early on in the in the pay piece, didn't you?
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_01: And you did some masterclasses, which then allowed you to meet other people.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: What who were some of the cool people that you met?
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_00: It was through a contact of all of that time that I got the opportunity to go and work on the Hamish and Andy set when they were filming the True Story series up here in Port Douglas.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: So they were filming at Nira Maya, mum dropped me off at like 7am.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: I had a backpack, I was so excited.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh they said you're 14.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're gonna be a runner for the day.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, Great.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: They gave me a headset, I was talking to all the crew, I ran around and did everything they asked me to.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: At one point in the day, they said, Can you just jump in the car and go and pick all the actors up and bring them over?
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I looked at them and I said, I'm 14.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: And they were like, What?
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: What do you mean?
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, you know, I can't drive a car.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: And so, anyway, that day I got to meet amazing, you know, um uh John Bachelor out of Red Dog and Kat Stewart, who is in Offspring, and um, yeah, a bunch of amazing people.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: I also got to meet Peter Rosethorne um at Work Experience as well, which is one of my highlights, obviously.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Kath and Kim.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, here we are, such an icon.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, got to meet so many cool celebrities in that time of my life, you know, from 14 to about 16.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: There was a day, sorry to interrupt you, um I was at work with your dad, and you sent, I don't even think you sent us a photo.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was when Instagram first started, maybe 2016 or were you on it.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: And you posted a photo and you were sitting at Rattle and Hum having lunch.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, and you had these two guys on either side of you, and I said, Who are they?
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: And you went, Well, this guy's a drummer out of Powderfinger, and this guy was helped produce Wolf Creek.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I was like, just a regular day in Rain's world.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I actually thought that's just what my life was gonna be.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like it was just very like, yeah, cool, like these people are amazing.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: I also got to meet Tash Pinkers, who created the um somebody that I used to know video clip, you know, that iconic coloured triangular kind of mismatch stop motion.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: She made that.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: Is that Gourtier?
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, so they painted him with black.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: And it won, it it's been I don't know, it's recognised as one of the most amazing film clips of you know, whatever.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, meeting her was amazing as well.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: And how seeing women in the industry too was so cool.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I remember you were very inspired by her.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so you were super creative in your own way as far as making videos and and photography and and working from a young age.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, obviously, school wasn't all about that.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: So, what you know, what do you remember about high school that was so great?
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: And you you had a pretty easy run.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: You had a group of 10 girlfriends and and you were really great group of friends.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um I was people can probably back me up.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: I was very much the um initiator of our school grade, I suppose.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: I was very much trying to get everyone involved in everything.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: All the way.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, always like everyone's gonna do cross country, even if they walk it, sort of thing, and I, you know, naturally became year nine, you know, junior school captain, and then grade 12 rolled around and I actually didn't get school captain.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: They made a new role for me and they made me school president because there wasn't enough roles.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um they were like, this girl's enthusiasm to um organize and execute something cannot go wasted, so we need to make a new role for this girl.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, yeah.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was pretty like yeah, I was pretty dead set on being like a straight A student, all that.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: I always was through primary school, so I tried to hold that up through high school.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: The senior years weren't so much I sucked at math.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: I used to be really good at math, and then I don't know what happened as we got older.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I just thought this is not relevant and I hate it, and I don't like anything that's not like you know, for a reason.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: So that annoyed me.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I went more for the social side and the creative side of things.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and did you start the coffee shop or was it a I didn't start it, no, but I was very heavily involved in it.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: So we had this like little coffee shop, and basically we had machines and stuff in there.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: We all did our baristas course, and um we basically said, look, you can you can hang out in here and you can make yourself coffees and stuff if you want, as long as you all make a roster and you all work it, and yeah, well I was in there quite a bit.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, I don't drink coffee because I'm a bit too crazy anyway, but um, yeah, made a lot of coffees and yeah, just always like trying to get I was even like the quieter kids, I was always kind of a bit full on with them, trying to make sure that they were getting involved and all that sort of stuff.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: They probably got really annoyed at me, but um yeah, I just wanted everyone we got we had a really good grade where everyone got along really well.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I don't know, I perceived it that way, maybe different perspectives, but from that group of boys that were throwing things at each other.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, there was one day that was actually I was in grade nine and they were year 12 boys, and there was a food fight going across the yard, and at one point one bloke who I won't mention because he's you know it's haunted him for the rest of his life.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the best cricketer in the Year 12 team, very tall bloke, very strong bloke, uh, walked from a different angle and pegged an apple, and I got caught in the crossfire and smacked me straight in the eye, passed out, got knocked out, and um when I woke up, it was all the Year 12 boys' feet right in front of me.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone was crowded around me in a circle, um, and the principal was almost gonna have a heart attack, I think.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: It was around the time of the One Punch things that were very um prevalent on the news, and your principal just absolutely panicked, rang an ambulance and couldn't get hold of me, got hold of your dad, and then your dad, in his nonchalant way, texted me and said, Rain's on her way to the hospital, which got hit by an apple.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, you think the text is wrong, you're like, uh what?
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: And you know what the thing that sucked the most was that it obviously like it hit me hard.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: I had you know, like the puffiest eye and proper concussion and everything, but I didn't get a black eye.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, one, I didn't get a black eye, also, it was its second lunch on a Friday afternoon, so I only had the weekend off and I had to go back to school on Monday.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, why did this not happen on a Monday morning?
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, anyway, it's all good.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, that was probably one of the funniest school that was a bit left of field.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: There's if you ever hear anyone calling me apple, that's that's why, because I got knocked out by an apple in school.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: Apple a day apparently doesn't give it to keep it up.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: No, that was my U-book quote, so they weren't very worried about all the um inside of your eye like being busted up and stuff.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, they did they took great care of you, but it came out alright because I just had my braces off a few weeks before, so they didn't smack me in the teeth, didn't smack me in the nose, didn't get me in the temple.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, look, you know what?
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: If you were gonna smack me, then at least you got me there.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, so that poor guy, yeah, as you said, has regretted that ever since.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's he's the sweetest guy, and he just recently got married.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: You got married on the weekend, so congrats, you know who you are.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, no, school, school was really good for me.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: I I really enjoyed it.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I was itching to like get out and see the world and stuff, but um I I I don't know, I had a really good experience.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: But you definitely at that point thought uh this is where I'm going.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: So you applied for university or the university.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so at the beginning of year 12, I I was like dead set on being a filmmaker, and I didn't want to go to the city, but I still wanted to get out of port, so I found a uni called SAE in Byron Bay, and I thought perfect, that's the best of the city.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: SAE is what?
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: Sound, audio and entertainment.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: Sound audio engineering.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, um, yeah, so I moved to Byron Bay just after just a little bit.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: We filled in all the forms, went through all the legalities and everything from what, like maybe October, September, October, the year before when you were still.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: At school um birth certificates, everything.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: And then SAE decided because you were gonna live on campus.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: And then SAE because I was only 17 at that point.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: SAE decided to two weeks before into January told us that oh they had overlooked the fact that you were only 17 and you weren't allowed to live on campus until you were 18, and that wasn't until July.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like you were really leaving home quite early.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: So we were thrown into this whirlwind of oh my god, where are you gonna live?
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: You've got to move to Byron Bay and have nowhere to live.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was 17.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know anyone in Byron Bay.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: Apart from Jai, Vastachek, shout out to Jai.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, shout out to Jai and Sharpie.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: Mutual friends, um sort of through Jo and through other other people that we knew here.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: We found you found a beautiful little house.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: Chrissy McLaughlin, shout out to her.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you found a great little house to live in.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um absolutely loved it, didn't you?
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: So and again, isn't that so funny?
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: Not that they're old people, but I my best friends were Gail and Liz.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: And they were grown ladies, um, who I just thought were the coolest ladies.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: And they were cool, right?
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: They were still cool.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: And they are still cool.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're listening, miss you loads and hope you're well.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, and so then yeah, as a 17-year-old, didn't know anyone.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: Very much a baby of the uni group.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, it was very hard.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, Marley and I had started dating at the end of year 11.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: So we I did, you know, all of year 12 spent with him, but that whole time he knew that I was gonna move, and so as I got closer, he just got more and more sad, which is so beautiful.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and but we I just knew I just knew that I was a young person, this is what I was gonna do.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: I loved him, but I just I had to go, and so we did long distance for yeah, almost two years.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um and shout out to him because he stuck by me and supported me as a little baby heading off into the world, and yeah, yeah, and that that in itself brought in great opportunities, and you got to meet some really great people.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, one day you rang and said, Oh, I've been at some you were very, very much a greenie when you went moved to Byron.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: You became a vegan, you bought a surfboard, we bought your bike, you lived across the road from like the the most beautiful little wholesome store.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you got involved in um yeah, the orange.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I got I actually got offered a job.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: It was a bit more content-based, but I actually worked for the greens, and I don't think at the time I really understood that I was working.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody understood what's saying.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: If I'm 52, I don't understand what the greens are.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so I I had some weird feelings.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: You just thought are they green?
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I was just like, okay, cool, right, whatever.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: They just said come to events and take photos for us and basically be our little like photographic reporter, and I was like, okay, and that was good because I only really um networked with the people at uni, and I was in a class of seven people, by the way, so you got to know them pretty easy.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um and they became really great friends.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but outside of that, I didn't I I didn't have a job or anything, so I didn't I wasn't really networking, so yeah, I I just yeah, would get asked to do random jobs and um yeah, then then just one time you sent me a photo of Elise Knowles' foot.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah you said I was sitting next to Elise Knowles at a Knowles like the biggest.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: You're fangirling, but you can only send me a photo of her foot strategically.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_01: There was another time that you swam with the Hemsworths.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: I did, yeah.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: I went for a surf one day and then looked up next to me.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: We were actually shooting um for like an assignment, and I looked up next to me, and the whole Hemsworth family were surfing next to me, and I was trying to play it cool because I knew there was cameras around.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: I thought, oh no, they think we're filming them.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh no.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: And so I was like, Hey, how you going?
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: And just had a chat to them on them on my surfboard, and then um had to sort of tell them we're shooting a film, you know, a assignment, like just so you know, we're not stalking ya.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um that was really cool.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: And Kyle Leinhart, I'm oh yeah, you got to show you.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: I got to shoot him on the stage with him at the time.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: He was amazing.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: I was supposed to shoot Dermot Kennedy as well, but then COVID came around.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: And Ziggy Alberts.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: So no, that was a really cool time.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was short-lived um because of COVID, but yeah, it's really interesting.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: Little part of my life where I got to say, for those of you who don't know, um Marley's birthday's in March, and Rain had said, Um, I'm gonna come home and surprise Marley for the weekend.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: So she just brought a backpack and was just flying home for three days to surprise him.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: And during that three days, um, the world went even more pear-shaped, and she couldn't go back to Byron Bay, and we just sort of said, Well, we'll just hop ride it out for a couple of weeks and see how you go.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: And she stayed and stayed, and we went through April and then into May, and then it was like, Wow, I actually don't think you're heading home.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: I think they shut the borders by then, and you had to fill in um applications to head back there and get your stuff.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: And that was the best little trip.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: We Marley and I flew down, grabbed my car, packed up all my stuff, everything fit in my Swift, by the way.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: I was a very minimal person.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and because it was like fresh COVID, nothing was booked, and we were able to everywhere we went, we got upgraded.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like Airly Beach, we had the most amazing view of the ocean and everything, and there was no one around, and yeah, it was it was such a cool time to drive up the coast.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the fuel prices were ridiculously low.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_00: I have a photo of the fuel prices, they were like so cheap.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think to fill my whole car up, it was like$35 or something, like it was nuts.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, it was just such a such a cool time to travel back up the coast, and um, yeah, you can listen more about you know that time of my life in that first episode um about opening maker and stuff, but yeah, that was a really uncertain time of like oh shit, I've always wanted to be a filmmaker, I've always wanted to be a photographer, and now maybe not kind of we you just thought you were putting it on hold.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was still a freelancer, so the whole time from being 14 right up to I don't know, 22 or whatever I was.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um I was still shooting, I was still doing freelance work.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I did a lot of family photos, started doing product photography for small businesses like around COVID time, um, yeah, f um dance shoots, like I did a lot, I did lots of small weddings, um, things like you did a lot of the beginning of the promo video, things like that.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's I want to mention too.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: I was a dancer, I danced from three years old to 17 years old.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: Hip hop was my main thing, not flexible whatsoever.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, I'm a bit of a Leo, love, love to put on a put on a show, love to be a bit silly.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, watch me.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: And anytime I was a character or something, I'd say, I'll be the boy, or I'll be the silly one, or I'll be the whatever.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't, I never felt like I needed to be like the the glamorous one.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: I always wanted to make people laugh.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, when you went started um doing those intern days with the film crews and stuff, it was quite presumed that the when you arrived that you would be trying to be an actress.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I can remember often that the producers and the directors and that that were taking the workshops would say, Oh, oh, you want to be on the other side of the camera.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_01: And you were like, Yeah.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: And you were quite amazed at that they couldn't see that.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: But you were, I guess from their point of view, you were this young, yeah, gorgeous girl that could and vibrant enough that you could have easily been an actress.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but you that never entered your head.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: I can't take anything too seriously, no.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_00: I just I enjoy people and I enjoy laughing and all that sort of stuff, and I enjoy telling people what to do and do this, and I can see this happening and whatever.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, definitely.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: It was definitely more director, director vibes, yeah.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: Direct all of us, yeah, for sure.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: Still do.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, so it was always creative.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like I was either performing, I loved dance because it was still performing, and then I loved capturing it, and then I got involved with um, you know, shooting like the the opening clips and stuff for the annual concert at Bodies in Motion, which were more like concert videos, short films, I suppose, um, based on the theme of the concert, and you know, I learned to use a drone and all that sort of stuff, and I would, you know, we'd climb rocks and stuff and go in the most random locations and shoot these wicked dance videos and stuff.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: So it all kind of intertwined, you know, it was either public speaking at school, directing people around with filmmaking, dancing, performing, you know, all that sort of stuff.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: So it all kind of like looking back on it, you're like, oh yeah, that makes sense.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_01: So and it's all helped you uh create maker.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's why you have um such great marketing skills for Instagram and um the websites so precise.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_00: The networking side of it and the community side of it is what I've always loved.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you always danced in a in a troupe or in a in a team, you know, you all rely on each other and you you work together, and same with filmmaking, you're you know, you've got so many moving parts and everyone's got to work together.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I think what that what I love about this part of my life is that I've still got those elements, but it's more retail and you know, this kind of business, but I'm still getting the elements of community and working together and all that.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: And how do you take your photos nowadays?
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: Uh not so much, no.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um with your dad?
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: Nowadays, photography, I had to close it.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: I was getting so burnt out.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_00: I was trying to work around the shop, have staff, everything, and then do photo shoots as well.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it was just yeah, way too much.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I lost the love of photography a bit uh because I was burnt out.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: So I stopped for a while, and the only time I'd pick up my camera is if I went flying with dad.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: So if you don't know dad has a micro light, he flies around the you know the beautiful area that we're living in.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, over the danger and all that sort of stuff.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I take my SLR and take aerial photos, and so you can buy them in the shop if you like.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: I need to order some more because of course I always neglect my own stuff, but yeah, doing content and that kind of evolved into like okay, I I love this again, and um I do a bit of like micro-influencing on my own account.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I obviously do content for Maker.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: We often do photo shoots in here as well, particularly when I had Kayla and stuff where I would, you know, make Kayla, you know, model for me and all that.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh actually she dropped a little question in the chat.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: Do you miss Kayla?
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, very much so.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: We do miss you very much.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_00: Hello, hello.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh your head is still on the back of the band.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: Some other questions um people wrote in were what has been your um one of your favourite or a a memory of being in Maker that sticks in your mind.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: As in like a special one or like just like a funny moment that might have happened.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_00: Probably the other day, like what maybe a month ago.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I was serving, the shop was full of people.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: There was like 20 people in here.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_00: I was busy at the counter.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: Mum had just come back from the gym, so she was in a gym gear, but she was up the back, you know, doing something in the storeroom.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: I had my eyes on everyone, you know, because you as you do people steal stuff and whatever, so you try and make sure you got your eyes on everyone or make sure they've got help or whatever.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_00: Serving this bloke, these two blokes walked in, head to toe in black clothes, tattoos, chains, you know, not not not not the not the typical person that walks into our store, not to be judgmental, but I thought unusual.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: They walked in so fast they did a quick lap and they were out, and I had my eye on them the whole time.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: As they walked out, I went, thanks, boys, as a bit of a sarcastic comment because I thought, well, that's a bit rude, you haven't even looked me in the eye.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, they were very startled by my me talking to them and kind of froze.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: And as the bloke I was serving tapped the card, next minute I hear, police, police, get on the ground.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I was so confused because I thought it was just banter.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_00: I thought these two blokes had walked out.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: There was two of their mates that had, you know, no, no, real police, three, three police, SWAT team, all outside.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_00: There was about six cars.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_00: They'd been tracking these blokes, they'd pinned them up against the um hat wall, they put them in handcuffs, they had a taser out, the blokes were all in undercover costumes, like not, you know, someone was in a surfy shirt.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_00: There was a bloke at head to toe in Bunnings clothes.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like I thought it was a delivery bloke.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_00: And they all kind of, as they were arresting them, they put on their like police gear, you know, a hat or a whatever, um, and yeah, escorted them out.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: And we were just all left stunned.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: It was like, just like, what the heck just happened?
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_00: I had um, you know, neighbor stores coming in going, are you okay?
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: What has happened?
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone thought I had gotten attacked.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_00: And turns out these two blokes have been tracked from Bunderburg, which is very far south from us, uh, all the way up the coast for weeks, and yeah, they would have happened, yeah.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_00: Part of a massive investigation that we we still don't know the proper details, but yeah, um, yeah, that was so insane.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so devastated that our cameras malfunctioned because I would love to show some footage, but um, yeah, anyway, that was wild.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was a really bizarre day.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: So and in the old store, I think the funniest thing that ever happened was the day that I went home early and you were in the store and you were ready to lock up.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: And this chick was on her phone and she was like, blah blah blah, and you were like far out, this woman.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: I was about to close the doors, and then I walked back inside and I went and did something at the counter, and this woman walked in and she was on FaceTime.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I I, if you know me, I don't like it when people are on their phones in shops.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's rude.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: I think you should just, if you're gonna have a phone call, do it outside.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, end of the day, gonna close the doors, walk same with my phone.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: I've rolled my eyes, like, come on, it's bloody 10 past five or whatever, I need to go home.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: I looked up and absolutely froze, like my face went red, my stomach turned, because I realized it was Katy Perry and she was FaceTiming Orlando Bloom and she was in my shop, and I was like, Oh my goodness, and then she picked up a hat and she bought a hat, and this whole time I just was like, just hi, how are you?
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, because she was on FaceTime and I couldn't really talk to her.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but as you served her, didn't you put the phone down?
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_01: And his face was like mine was over his face, like it was so cool.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just chatting away.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh hang on, I've just got to pay for this, just wait up.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, darling sweetie baby, whatever.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: And um, little Daisy, whatever was in the pram out the front with the nanny, so yeah, kind of got to meet all of them.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_00: She was like, hi, hi.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: She was very like just a normal person, um, which was cool.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: I would have loved to get a photo, but I'm also too scared to ask celebrities for photos.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, in the same way that we don't like people on their phones in our store, we also don't like um interrupting celebrities, you know, they're just here on holidays, aren't we?
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: And they try to come to Port Douglas to escape, so we don't want to be annoying.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_01: We don't want to be fan gilling people, but um I did make Sam Pang have a photo with me that day because he's so bloody funny.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_01: He just won a logie too, so that's very cool.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure if he shouted out to me, but yeah.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, so 2020 rolls around, you and I decide to start this little store where we uh support other makers.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um give me a rundown on how that's all happened for you and how you felt about not only working in a retail store but owning it.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_01: And um yeah, what's your life been like since then?
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_01: How did it pivot from being a bar and bay movie chick?
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean we started in that small store, so we had three years down there, and then you know, it was either make or break, so we moved up here to the bigger store, which was the best decision we ever made in the end.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we've been here almost three years in this bigger shop.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, life now looks like being creative in other ways.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we run workshops out the back of the shop.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm very fortunate to collaborate with some really cool people.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um Cowgirl Surf Club have become our new besties, so I'm kind of their like FNQ rep for them.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um we've done Kristen Don here.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: She's an absolute shout out to Kristen.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_00: What a legend.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: She's such a legend.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, those chicks are amazing.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so inspired by all of them.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: So getting to collaborate on those events up in Cape Tribulation has been such a highlight.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, and then my my days are just I'm in here constantly.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I do pretty much everything from serving people to marketing to the podcast to all the boring accounting to everything.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I love it.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: I I do, I I have been a little bit burnt out lately because I've taken on a lot.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um it's yes, that is Payla's fault.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, anyway.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_01: What about those people that wrote in?
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I think you had like four people that said, Are you ever gonna run for mayor?
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I do get that comment a lot.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_00: Oh no, I could never, sorry.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_00: Take my hat off to anyone in the in the council, but uh no, not happening for me.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'll stick to the retail and organising Christmas shopping nights and stuff, um, which I love doing every year, uh, which is coming up as well, November 26th, if you want to come along.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'll advertise that more closer.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yes.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_01: Another question was as busy as you are, what do you do in your downtime?
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_01: Because throwing back to your best friends being grey nomads when you were little.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sometimes I do think you're an old person trapped in a young.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: I am, I am very much a nana.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, my garden is my favourite thing in the world.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, apart from my husband, by the way, sorry, he did say you always forget to mention me.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_00: He is a very obvious love him very much.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: Him and I do a lot together, whether it's working on the house, adventuring, you know, camping, whatever it may be.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he is my biggest supporter.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: He works FIFO, which is why um you don't see him much because he's only here every third week.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I try and dive into make it for two weeks.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: The one week that he's home, I'm a bit slow, try to be more slower-paced.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, generally when he's not here, it's just my garden is my life.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: I love my garden.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think you are so much like your grandma, yeah.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, dad's mum.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: She was a little pocket rocket, she would bake a cake before work, as you do.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I get in here at 9am, and you're like, I was up at five, I've done the gardening, I've mulched this, and I've baked a quiche, and I have um written the podcast and I've edited this, and I'm like, off at the dogs and all that.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm very much everyone knows I'm I'm a morning person, like I'm bing, awake.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you can't get me to do anything in the afternoon.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_00: I don't check my phone at night.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: I'm very much like, no, get off my phone by then.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: But the mornings are what I live for.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_00: I love my mornings.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_00: Grandma was the same.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I I do believe if you start your day on a really good note, it makes the rest of your day much better.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm often, I'm either obviously in the garden, the dance love.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I will often put just dance on on the TV and just jam out.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, calf muscle yesterday.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I did actually.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: I did, I did, I feel very old.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, and then just I have a beautiful outdoor bath and stuff.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: So try to make sure, yeah.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: I've got two kelpies.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_00: Try to make sure that I at the moment I've because I've been very burnt out, I've been very aware of trying to incorporate something for me every morning so that I'm not just like working from 5 a.m.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: to 6 p.m.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, whether it be spending time in the garden.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_00: Today I put my disco ball back up in the garden because I lent it to a friend.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um that in itself was just like something for me that makes me happy.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, like things like I bought a new cute little tablecloth that's got frills on it and it looks very Italian and cutesy and cottagey and just things like that.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I love been learning how to seed.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_00: I just um I've got containers of like lettuce seeds and strawberry seeds, and I'm trying to learn how to how to regrow everything from the stuff over here.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm getting for Christmas is lettuce seeds.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, everyone's got seeds.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_00: So we get seeds in a jar.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, and then cooking and stuff is also Marley and I love, he is amazing at cooking, and we really bond over food and hosting and he cooks it and you eat it.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, I'll do good salads and stuff.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'll do a good focaccia.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, anyway, so just spending time with our friends and yeah, and your house is an extension of Make It, it is full of beautiful handmade products.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you've collect started collecting original art.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, it's it's a real testament to to your Mali on how warm and yeah.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm very aware of like designing your life in a way that brings you joy, and it's not just like on occasion, it's joy all the time.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like when you wake up, you feel it.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: When you go home, you feel it.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_00: You don't need the material unless you're beautiful that bring you internal joy.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, so we probably should open the shop.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_01: What a question that you always ask your guests is um what's a piece of advice that you would give anyone and what has brought you joy this week?
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_00: All right, well, the joy thing, I I don't journal or anything like that.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'm way too busy.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I do keep a jar on our like desk um with some pieces of paper, and whenever something nice happens or whatever, I'll jot it down and I'll roll it up and I'll put it in the jar.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, I haven't read them all year, and this morning, because this was coming up, I thought maybe I'll open the jar and remind myself what's happened this year.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: So reading through that really brought me a lot of joy.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so probably that.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and just being in here, there's been so many beautiful customers and stuff that have just made me feel really happy.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um advice, gosh, I have so much because I do speak to so many people and I have interviewed so many people, so I'm just gonna rattle off a few.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, one that mum's always made me live by is you'll never remember the money you spent, only the time you had.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying piss away your money, I'm just saying if it's gonna bring you an immense amount of joy, then just go and do it and you won't you won't remember what you spent on it.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um it was also something you really drilled into me.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like you only get embarrassed if you if you feel embarrassed, you know.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_00: Embarrassment is embarrassing if you're embarrassed, yeah.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_00: So, yep, that one.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um god, I thought about them this morning.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, there's one more.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_01: Life's not a competition.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, life's not a competition.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_00: Mum's always drilled that one into us as well.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what I do say a lot is just start it and make it better later.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think just have a go, like, and it'll evolve as you go.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you don't have to have everything perfect.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and yeah, I guess just just keep looking for the joy.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_00: When you start looking for joy, then you keep finding it.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like yeah, like looking for a yellow car or whatever.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I think if you're consciously looking for things that make you happy, then you're always gonna find it.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, cool.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_00: And tell your mates you love them.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's something tell everyone you love them because um yeah, even if you feel cringe or whatever, just tell the people that you love that you love them.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's probably my final word for today.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_00: Forget the ones you don't.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh no, we love everyone.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, thank you for interviewing me.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_01: That's alright.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for giving us a little bit more insight into your brain and um the juxtaposition that you are of yeah, um, yeah, yeah, you are lots of fun, and we love you very, very much.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_01: And we thank what you are bringing to Port Douglas.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_00: Love you.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we might do a part two at some point, if maybe in a few months or something, but yeah, if you have any more questions, send us a DM.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um but we will be in your ears very soon, and thanks so much again for listening and supporting a small independent podcast.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_00: Have a great day! Bye.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's all the juice from the booth today.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks so much for listening.
• 46:31
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• 46:34
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• 46:42
  SPEAKER_00: We'll catch you back in the booth next week.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_00: Season two is proudly supported by the Regional Arts Development Fund.