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🎪 Episode 92: Adventures in Facebook Dating, Hypnotherapy, Haunted Houses & Family Betrayal · This Is My Circus

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  I'm Stephanie.
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  I'm Meredith.
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  And welcome to This Is My Circus.
• 0:03
  You jumped back so fast and started that.
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  Like, I was like,"We're going already?" It was like, boom.
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  It's okay.
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  It's okay.
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  You know what it is?
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  Because we have so many recording minutes.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So our- We can't- Our 20 minute,- Yeah life recap before we life recap on the, on the pod.
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  Uh-huh.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, we can't waste a second.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Okay, so let's jump in.
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  How's life?
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  Life is lifing.
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  Life is lifing.
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  Any, uh...
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  People have been asking for some dating updates.
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  Oh, okay.
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  So tell us.
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  So, um, I, I went on one date, with a gentleman- Mm-hmm in Lake Wylie.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  That was fun- Mm-hmm while it lasted.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I, you know, I just- I don't know if I'm ready for, like, the whole, whole dating thing.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, it's fun to, like, go out, but- Yeah.
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  Yeah i'm not really a go out person though.
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  Like, I am very much a homebody.
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  It's hard to date when you're a, a recluse.
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  I know.
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  Yeah, I guess- I'm just kidding.
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  that limits my options.
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  Did you feel awkward on the date?
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  I did, 100%.
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  Okay.
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  And I told the dude- Yeah like, before we went out.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm like,"I am super awkward, so, like, please- Yeah don't make fun of me." Any specific comments you said that you want to tell the people?
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  I really- That you remember I don't even know.
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  Like- Okay and he's like, you're fine.
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  You're fine.
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  Just, like, relax.
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  Like, it's totally- Yeah okay." And I'm like,"Okay." Well...
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  But he's like,"But, you're, the cute kind of awkward." I'm like- Yeah.
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  And I'm like- But at least you got that first date under your belt, got some of the nerves out, and just, Mm-hmm open to see if you meet anybody else or if you s- Yeah, GPT told me I'm getting much more- better at my conversations'cause, like- Good job I second-guess myself- Yeah when I'm, like, in, the chats and- Yeah.
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  Yeah i'm like,"Was that really dumb to say?" Like, I question everything I say.
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  And my chat, she's like,"Girl, you got this." Oh, she's so encouraging.
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  She's like,"You are doing so much better than when you started." Oh, good.
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  Oh, does your chat have a name?
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  Like, do you call it anything or- No just no?
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  So, She talks to me like a girlfriend now.
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  Yes.
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  Like, 100%.
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  Yeah.
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  Um, I, so my work stuff, when I'm in my work project- Mm-hmm that's Sally.
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  Mm.
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  And I'll say,"Sally, are you ready to do something?" Then she's like,"Let's go.
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  Let's go, boss." And I'm like,"Okay." Do, so do you have different names for, like, different projects?
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  No, she's the only one I really have a name for.
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  I guess'cause the rest are just kind of like- Yeah you know, Jackson's recruiting stuff, trying to follow those processes.
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  What all do you have projects for in ChatGPT?
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  I have 1,000.
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  So do I.
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  Okay.
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  I have...
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  Well, for, the social media management section- Yeah I've got all of those files, uploaded- Yeah and, like, kind of keep that separate.
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  Yeah.
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  I have got my hypnotherapy study notes.
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  Yeah.
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  It's so cool that you're doing that.
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  Thank you.
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  I don't even know if we talked about that on here.
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  Yeah, but we'll circle back.
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  Okay.
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  So I've got, like, all my study notes and, I, I started, like, my- Yeah a personal, guide to use- Mm-hmm um, in the future for, if and when I start taking clients.
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  And then- I've got so many.
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  Yeah.
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  Like, I've got everything from, like, okay, so, our lawn care business, I've got a chat for that.
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  And, I said, my wedding stuff.
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  I've got, it's, my project is called Beauty, but it's like skincare- Yeah and that kind of stuff.
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  is this really a dupe for this?
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  You know, all that kind of stuff in there.
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  I've got work stuff, I've got how do I do this on a Mac?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Because I'm still trying to figure out all the shortcuts on the Mac.
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  Yeah, I don't really know if I know the shortcuts, I just kind of- Yeah hit, hit keys until they work.
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  That's one way to do it.
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  But yeah, I've got so many...
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  Oh, I've got house stuff.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Like, I'll put, send in a picture of my house and I'm like,"What can I do to make this look better?" All the things.
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  Yeah.
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  I love it.
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  I don't know how I lived without it, which is scary.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Yeah.
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  I can't live without it.
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  Yeah, no.
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  Which is not good.
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  No.
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  But it's also like a cellphone though, right?
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  Like, everybody made it without cellphones- Yeah for so long.
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  Yeah.
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  And then cellphones came along and it's like,"No." Mm-hmm.
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  You know,, the only thing that AI, like, I'm disappointed in, some of it really freaks me out, but what I'm disappointed in is the movies.
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  Yeah.
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  They've really, since AI's been out, it's just like there's no special effects anymore.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  It's just like,"Let's AI house on fire," and it's just like,"Really, guys?" Well- But anyway I haven't watched, movies like gone to a movie or, sat down to really watch a movie.
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  Yeah.
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  But I, again, the ADD.
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  Uh-huh.
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  I sit down and I'm on my phone, Uh-huh"What can I do for this?" And like- Yeah as I'm watching.
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  Yeah.
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  Um, so hypnotherapy.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Tell us about that.
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  Oh, I'm excited for it.
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  I did hypnotherapy myself- Mm-hmm when I was going through my therapy to- Mm-hmm you know, whatever.
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  Won't get into all of that.
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  But, it really did help me a lot, just un-program myself of all, the bad image stuff and- Un-program, that's a great way to say that.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  It really is.
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  So Social media's fun.
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  It is what it is.
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  But that's not really what, what I feel called to do.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And I wanted something that felt more aligned with the new version Yeah of my life.
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  Yeah.
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  The next chapter or whatever, however you wanna word it.
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  Yeah.
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  Um, so I, as I was kind of just like, what can I do that's gonna help people that is interesting- Mm-hmm that I'm not gonna be like,"Oh, well cool.
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  I, I mastered that.
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  Let's move on." Yeah.
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  Right.
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  And I just really thought that that was a cool way to help people.
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  It is.
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  It is.
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  I feel like it's rare.
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  Maybe it's just because I've not done it, and I'm not, and like I've not searched for it.
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  I'm not in the, it's gonna pop up in my algorithm now, right?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  But like I feel like that's not oversaturated.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And that's probably a good thing to have a broader group of people that you could work with or help or learn from- Right and you know, all the things.
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  So of course I'm not trying to like niche myself down super, super much, but I do think that an underserved market- Mm-hmm is high school, middle school-aged kids with, social anxiety.
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  Not that I can diagnose anybody with anxiety or anything like that.
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  Right.
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  There's workarounds not to say specific words to get- Yeah, yeah like, you know, uh- Yeah somebody at my doorstep yelling at me.
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  Right, right.
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  But like social- Oh, God.
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  Here they are.
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  Social anxiety, testing anxiety- Yep and, sports performance.
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  Yes.
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  Sports performance like fascinated me as I started like researching it.
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  Yes.
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  And all of these like major, major the greatest of the greats, Yep did hypnotherapy from- Yep the time that they were, in like peewee sports or whatever they're called, you know?
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  Like- That's so crazy.
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  Yeah.
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  So, I just thought that was like so cool.
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  It is.
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  And our kids always involved in sports- Yeah I was like, that makes so much sense.
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  Yeah, it does.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  It does.
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  So sports performance is huge.
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  I feel like you can major in sports performance now.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Did we talk about this already?
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  No, mm-mm.
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  But, as I've been working with Jackson and filling out all his stuff, you know, he wants to be sports management.
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  And, you know, basically you put in sports and when you type it in, you know, anything that includes that pops up, and that's starting to be a thing you can major in in college.
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  Oh, really?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  That's cool.
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  I know.
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  I don't really...
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  I guess you would be a counselor- Mm-hmm or you can be a coach and minor in that and stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, and they got, like, all the life coaches and stuff- Yeah so, then you're niching down to- Yeah specific areas.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  So yeah, that's really cool.
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  That is really cool, but I think that that is right up your alley.
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  Yeah.
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  You're good with kids.
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  I mean, of course, like, if you- And adults.
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  Like, the whole...
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  Yeah.
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  No, but I- In certain situations, because after subbing- Yeah like, that ruined me for, for kids, but I do love the sports aspect.
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  I...
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  Being a sports mom, Yeah I get it.
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  Right.
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  And I get the fear after you have a bad injury, and I get the fear if You're an awesome player, you just don't have that confidence.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Or you're afraid you're gonna let down your mom and dad.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Or you're afraid you're gonna let down your coach.
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  Yeah or your teammates are just talking trash because- Yeah that's what boys do, and- Yeah you're sensitive.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So that kind of, you know, wears you down a little bit.
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  I just think it's such a cool way to help kids.
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  It is.
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  That's a great perspective.
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  I love that for you.
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  Thank you.
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  So you're taking some classes- I am and getting certified.
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  I am.
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  Is that how that works?
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  I do.
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  Okay.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  So one day.
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  One day.
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  One day.
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  Like, six months from now.
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  No.
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  Well, yeah.
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  I mean, whatever works, you know?
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  Yeah.
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  I just...
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  I don't know.
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  We'll see.
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  Yeah.
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  And I can also hypnotize myself.
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  I feel like that's scary.
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  That I c- I am just...
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  Awesome.
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  It really did help, though.
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  I mean, I was- Yeah like, really in a bad place and- Yeah just from everything else in life.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  But...
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  not only when you hear, you know, I don't even know exactly what, but when you hear you're worthless or you're stupid or you're fat or whatever, of course that's what you start to think, and that's the whole manifesting thing.
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  Right.
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  You know?
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  Then it gets in your mind, and our mind is stronger than- Yeah we give it credit for.
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  So yeah, deprogramming to get that out and just to Mm-hmm I am beautiful, I am smart, I am kind.
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  I am awesome.
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  No.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, so love that for you.
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  Thank you.
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  Keep us posted on the- I will joinee.
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  I will hypnotize all of us one day.
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  Oh, that sounds good.
• 9:02
  I know.
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  Hypnotize everybody to leave a review Ooh, that's perfect.
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  Yes.
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  A great review.
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  Five star.
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  Yeah.
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  If you haven't done it yet, go do it please.
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  And there's only, like, three people that have, so most of y'all haven't.
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  We have, like, 15 I think.
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  Just kidding.
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  Do we really?
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  Yeah.
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  I haven't looked, like- And they're all five stars.
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  Well, hello.
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  Why wouldn't that be?
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  So funny story.
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  Uh, was putting something on our lawn care Facebook page the other day, and somebody messaged me wanting a quote for it.
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  Ends up being the lady that was the...
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  Lady, she was, like, 20, so she was, like, I don't know how old.
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  She just seemed real young.
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  Yeah.
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  Front desk lady at Jackson's Orthodontist.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And, she was like,"By the way, I'm glad the podcast is back.
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  I love listening." And I was like- Oh, yay"I had no idea that she even listened." So- Hi hey, Kennedy.
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  What's up, girl?
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  We love you.
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  We do love you.
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  Leave us a review if you hadn't.
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  And thank you.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  We talked about the seal that's everywhere, Neil.
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  Is his name Neil?
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  I've been seeing videos all...
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  Neil is a terrorist.
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  But, like, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  But he's in, another country.
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  A- yes.
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  Yeah.
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  I wanna say, Australia is what the accent sounded like.
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  Don't know.
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  Mm.
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  Could be totally wrong, but he is, like you had said, breaking down fences and barriers and I hadn't s- I hadn't seen him before.
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  But I saw him and I'm like,"My gosh, Neil is out of control." Did you see...
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  you might not have.
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  This was probably...
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  And he's been terrorizing that community for a long time.
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  It's not just, just, he didn't just happen to get on land and just like- Right, right but one lady said that he was blocking her driveway.
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  She couldn't get out of her driveway, and, he would not move, and you can't move this thing.
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  No, no.
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  It's, like, ginormous.
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  And she had to call her boss and tell her that she couldn't- make it into work because Neil was blocking her driveway.
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  What an excuse.
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  That's crazy.
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  I saw, different clips of him.
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  They're like,"Neil has had it in for this pole forever." And it's, this, a short pole, and he's just, bouncing his head against...
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  And it's, like, several different views, and you can tell it's several different days.
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  He has got it in for this one specific pole.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And I'm like,"Neil." Yeah.
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  All nail.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  All the trouble.
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  And also, have you seen the raccoon?
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  Oh, that weird mutant one?
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  Ugh.
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  No, I don't like that one.
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  I do not want that one.
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  So that one's in Seattle.
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  That is what, nightmares are made of.
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  Yes.
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  My cute little raccoon- N- no that is not it.
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  No, no.
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  That, he is not.
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  So apparently he's got a shortened spine, I think- Uh-huh is what I read, so it looks like he's, walking on all fours.
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  It looks like a kindergartner tried to draw a raccoon and- Yes.
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  Yes.
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  it came to life.
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  Have you ever seen those where they do take a picture that a kindergartner drew and then they make it look like a real animal?
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  Oh my God, yeah, exactly.
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  Ex- Exactly what that...
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  Yeah Creepy.
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  Like- It is ugh.
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  Yeah.
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  No, I don't like that one.
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  That is, that is not the one.
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  No.
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  No.
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  Uh-uh.
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  Hard pass.
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  Yeah, don't like that guy.
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  Mm-mm.
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  Don't like that one.
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  And he's probably super sweet.
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  I'm sure he is.
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  If I saw that in my yard- Right I would think it was an alien and I would have run.
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  As much as I'm, like, chasing raccoons currently trying to get one to adopt one- Mm-hmm well, basically steal it from his family, not adopt.
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  Yeah.
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  That guy, no thank you.
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  Mm-mm.
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  Mm-mm.
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  You can stay, stay over there in Seattle.
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  No.
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  No.
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  Hard pass.
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  Ooh, but I did see in, this is totally not raccoon related, sorry- it's a world.
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  I did see in Japan, I don't know how I got on this algorithm, There is a job in Japan that pays you, like a ghost hunters almost, but it's not.
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  If somebody dies in a house, like by suicide, murder, whatever- Mm-hmm they have to get, a certificate saying it's ghost-free because people are so scared to rent or buy these homes.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  And so there's actual companies that go, overnight stays with all the things.
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  We call them Ghostbusters.
• 12:43
  What?
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  That's like, that's exactly what I thought of.
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  I'm sorry.
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  I was like- I am picturing the Ghostbusters- Uh-huh.
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  Spent- Uh-huh and then Slimer just doing the most.
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  Oh, God.
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  Forgot about Slimer.
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  Do you remember Hi-C, the drink- Yeah the juice boxes?
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  Yeah.
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  And- They, they had a Slimer.
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  They did.
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  I forgot about that.
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  Yeah.
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  I totally forgot about that.
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  It was my favorite.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  So, I'll, spray weeds and stuff, and I've got a backpack, and I always say,"I'm going Ghostbusters style" and put it on.
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  Brian's like,"You say it every time.
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  It's not funny." I think it is.
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  Brian, be quiet.
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  I'll send you a pic of it.
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  It's great.
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  It's amazing.
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  I'm just like,"That is so cool." That is really cool.
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  And then I'm like, are they just like the crooked people as in every industry, and they're like just sign it off like- Uh, I mean-"Go free.
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  You move in" How can you prove it?
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  Or-"You buy this house, you move in, and, and you're, all of a sudden- You have fiber.
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  All of a sudden the slumber is right there.
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  Yeah, I don't know.
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  I, I believe in all the things, but I don't know how to, how you'd prove all the things, you know?
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  But I guess there's ways.
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  Uh, what, what they got all those machines, like the, whatever kind of machines- Right that they use at home.
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  They've got those things.
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  It goes do, do, do.
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  The meters.
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  The little meters.
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  I don't know how it work either.
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  But totally crazy.
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  I believe, didn't know that one.
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  Where'd you say that was?
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  In Japan.
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  I had no idea Japanese people had such a fear of- Apparently.
• 14:04
  Yeah.
• 14:05
  Speaking of other countries, we have the FIFA Championship- Yep is today.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, while we're recording.
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  While we're recording.
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  So it'll be done.
• 14:11
  So yes, it would be done, so go a- congratulations Argentina, I'm sure you won because it's rigged and y'all always win.
• 14:22
  They're the Patriots of- Yes my house.
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  Yes, absolutely.
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  Absolutely.
• 14:26
  Jazz's, dad calls them, so it's FIFA, is like the name of the thing, right?
• 14:31
  So he calls them Argent FIFA.
• 14:32
  Mm-hmm.
• 14:33
  It's great.
• 14:34
  I've been using it.
• 14:35
  So let's just talk about Pa quick.
• 14:37
  Love Pa.
• 14:38
  But he was a meme.
• 14:41
  He was a meme.
• 14:41
  I mean- He was a meme.
• 14:42
  So- He's soccer.
• 14:43
  Yes.
• 14:44
  So Jazz, he's from Colombia.
• 14:45
  Uh-huh.
• 14:45
  And not South Carolina.
• 14:47
  No.
• 14:47
  Colombia.
• 14:48
  Yeah, no.
• 14:49
  So, so- Like the real Colombia the real Colombia.
• 14:52
  Huge soccer fan forever, and he's grown up playing and coaching, and that was her sport she played.
• 14:57
  So, it was last year I think they were in Charlotte, and she took him to soccer game in uptown Charlotte, and it was a qualifier for the World Cup, and it was amazing, huge.
• 15:07
  Soccer fans are crazy, especially these teams that have these followings, and they had great seats.
• 15:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 15:13
  And it was a apparently a great game, and they got a picture of Pa, and it turned into a meme.
• 15:19
  Yeah.
• 15:19
  That he looked like the- Quaker- the Quaker- Quaker Oats guy Oh, yeah.
• 15:24
  Hilarious.
• 15:25
  Hilarious.
• 15:26
  So then, because, you know, all of the kids are- Uh-huh in our group are such smart alecs- Yes and it was hysterical, I forgot which one.
• 15:35
  Isaiah.
• 15:35
  Yeah.
• 15:36
  He had him sign the Quaker Oats sock.
• 15:38
  He brought out the thing to Pa, and Pa signed it.
• 15:42
  That was great.
• 15:43
  And meme like everywhere.
• 15:45
  Yeah.
• 15:45
  It's like- No we made up a meme.
• 15:46
  No, it was- Like, it was on, like, X and Insta and people all over the place.
• 15:50
  And we didn't make it up.
• 15:51
  Somebody else- No.
• 15:52
  Right.
• 15:52
  Right.
• 15:53
  Somebody else did that.
• 15:53
  Like, even the Quaker Oats guy Yeah whatever he is, like enjoying the game.
• 15:57
  Hilarious.
• 15:58
  Oh my gosh.
• 15:59
  I was like, I finally know a famous person." Do you know anybody...
• 16:03
  Oh, you know famous people.
• 16:04
  We've talked about that before.
• 16:06
  Well, you, like- I've met- You've met people, but yeah but I mean, like, I don't keep in, like, I don't have, a personal line to- Yeah, who's the most famous person you have in your contacts?
• 16:16
  Nobody.
• 16:18
  You.
• 16:19
  I don't think I have any.
• 16:22
  I don't even know why I picked up my phone like I'm gonna look.
• 16:25
  I've got nobody.
• 16:26
  Me, no, you're my most famous friend.
• 16:29
  I'm disappointed in us.
• 16:34
  I blew Jackson's mind the other day talking about famous people because he said something about, Josh Norman, I think- Mm-hmm that used to play for the Panthers, and I was like,"We're friends on Facebook." He was like,"You follow him?" And I was like,"No, we're Facebook friends." I think it was...
• 16:47
  that's who it was.
• 16:48
  It's somebody random.
• 16:49
  Mm-hmm.
• 16:49
  And he was like,"Really?" And I was like,"Yeah." So apparently,, you can only have so many friends or whatever, and I was, like, one of the first however many that- Yeah did whatever, and he friended me back, and I'm like,"Never deleting that one.
• 17:00
  Never delete.
• 17:00
  That's my connection." So that's my most famous connection.
• 17:03
  Screenshotted it, like?
• 17:05
  I did.
• 17:05
  I did.
• 17:05
  I sent it to Jake.
• 17:07
  I can message him if I want to, I guess, but...
• 17:09
  Oh, I should do that one day, be like,"What's up?" Are you single?
• 17:11
  'Cause my friend's single.
• 17:14
  Well, he's gotta be tall.
• 17:16
  He's gotta be wealthy maybe.
• 17:18
  I don't know.
• 17:19
  Okay.
• 17:21
  If y'all could see my face right now, it's very red.
• 17:23
  You are turning pink.
• 17:24
  You are turning pink.
• 17:25
  You look cute with some pink, pink face blush.
• 17:29
  It's natural.
• 17:29
  Your ears are red.
• 17:32
  Okay, you want me to change the subject?
• 17:33
  I'm gonna put my hair down from every episode on.
• 17:39
  It's adorable.
• 17:39
  Thank you.
• 17:40
  It's adorable.
• 17:40
  So Brian's been working third shift last week, and he's got'til a couple days this week.
• 17:45
  I am so out of- Mm.
• 17:48
  He comes home at, like, 5:00 a.m.- Mm which to me is still, yesterday.
• 17:52
  That's sleepy time.
• 17:53
  100%.
• 17:55
  I work from home.
• 17:56
  I roll out of bed and log in and start my calls- Yeah at 8:00.
• 17:59
  I'm not up- Yeah and nowhere near mentally ready.
• 18:03
  Mm-mm.
• 18:03
  And, he came home one day last week, and, he had a bad night.
• 18:07
  Something just didn't go the way he wanted it to, and he's usually very considerate, again, when he comes home or when he leaves for work really early.
• 18:15
  He's quiet.
• 18:15
  I have him trained really well.
• 18:17
  Mm-hmm.
• 18:17
  He shuts the door.
• 18:18
  The lights don't bother, all the things.
• 18:19
  But he came home, and he, needed to talk about whatever it was.
• 18:22
  He just felt bad that it didn't go well.
• 18:24
  And, and I'm laying there, and I'm literally thinking,"I have nothing to give right now." I think I fell asleep in the middle of his conversation, and I woke back up and said"That's frustrating," and then I went back to sleep.
• 18:36
  That sucks.
• 18:37
  You know?
• 18:38
  He just needed to get it out and have a conversation, and it was not the time.
• 18:42
  Well, it happens.
• 18:44
  I guess.
• 18:44
  But you know what?
• 18:45
  Uh, that sucks always works- if somebody's complaining.
• 18:50
  I get...
• 18:50
  Yeah.
• 18:51
  I wasn't even awake enough, though, to, get any thoughts together.
• 18:54
  Mm-hmm.
• 18:54
  Oh, I hate it.
• 18:55
  Yeah, me too.
• 18:57
  That sucks.
• 18:57
  That sucks.
• 18:58
  Oh my gosh.
• 18:59
  So now every time you say that sucks, I'm gonna know that's, like, your generic, like, bless their heart.
• 19:06
  You just gave yourself away.
• 19:08
  Well, I'll think of a more creative way to say it.
• 19:13
  That blows.
• 19:14
  Did we talk about when I went to Pennsylvania?
• 19:17
  No.
• 19:17
  No, no, no, no.
• 19:18
  No I went tubing.
• 19:19
  Did you have a good time?
• 19:20
  It was so cold.
• 19:21
  Yeah.
• 19:22
  The water- I'm sure it was so cold.
• 19:24
  I'm sure it was freezing.
• 19:25
  Did you have on a wetsuit or, or- No, I was in my bikini And it was so cold.
• 19:29
  So- Every time the, the sun went in- Yeah I was, like, covered head to toe in goosebumps.
• 19:35
  So, for sure.
• 19:37
  So tubing, like floating down a river tubing?
• 19:39
  Uh-huh.
• 19:39
  Okay.
• 19:40
  Yeah.
• 19:40
  I didn't know, like, behind a boat tubing or- Oh, no, no, no.
• 19:42
  And then every time we hit those rapids and, like, the water- The splash and the spray.
• 19:46
  Yeah.
• 19:47
  So- I'm sure it was freezing and my brother, the nice, kind person that he is, we had, just a little bit more to go to get out.
• 19:55
  Uh-huh.
• 19:55
  And he pops the air thingy so that our...
• 19:59
  My, my sister and I were in, like, a double tube.
• 20:01
  Oh.
• 20:01
  Uh-huh And he- The air comes out?
• 20:04
  And I- Jerk.
• 20:05
  Kevin I keep, I just keep slowly keep going underwater.
• 20:08
  How dare you, Kevin?
• 20:10
  That's terrible.
• 20:10
  I was like,"You are such a jerk." Terrible.
• 20:12
  Awful.
• 20:13
  Yeah.
• 20:14
  Terrible.
• 20:14
  So I watched a documentary today, and it was about this kid...
• 20:19
  Well, I don't know how old he was.
• 20:20
  Like, young adult, I guess.
• 20:22
  And he was rescued from, a life raft in the ocean.
• 20:24
  Mm-hmm.
• 20:25
  The whole question is, was he really on there for, seven days, or did he just get on there and everything?
• 20:30
  And it was really curious, because as soon as he jumps off of the life raft, like it starts to deflate and sink.
• 20:36
  And they're like,"He stabbed it, and it's going to sink," so they can't see, like, what equipment he had on there, what rations- Oh, gosh he had on there.
• 20:45
  Had he really been there for seven days?
• 20:47
  Did it look like he'd been there for that long, or whatever?
• 20:50
  Yeah.
• 20:51
  Maybe, yeah.
• 20:52
  So he just did it for, like, clout?
• 20:55
  So the whole thing was is his mom was lost.
• 20:57
  They were on a boat.
• 20:58
  Did he kill the mom?
• 20:59
  We think so.
• 21:00
  Mm.
• 21:00
  And his grandfather in another situation.
• 21:03
  So he's Rose from Titanic, like- Yes get off my, my- Pretty much.
• 21:07
  We won't both fit.
• 21:09
  But speaking of Titanic, I've been on a documentary kick.
• 21:11
  Okay., We watched Trainwreck, the Woodstock one.
• 21:13
  This was Trainwreck, and it was about the cruise ship in, Italy that hits the rocks.
• 21:19
  And- Oh, I don't know about this it was, like, 10 years ago.
• 21:21
  It hit rocks.
• 21:22
  And I mean, They can see the island that they're trying to get to right there.
• 21:25
  And, the ship starts sinking, and it goes through all this stuff.
• 21:29
  So, Ryan loves cruise ships.
• 21:31
  He is fascinated.
• 21:32
  He can tell you any cruise ship, how big it is, how, what year it was born, all this kind of stuff.
• 21:38
  So I was like,"Oh, we can watch it." We have a hard time finding things that get along.
• 21:41
  Is he...
• 21:41
  Do you think he's a nerd now?
• 21:42
  That sucks.
• 21:43
  I just never- I just, I would never have thought- I know that that would be his- I know.
• 21:47
  That is his...
• 21:48
  He loves it.
• 21:50
  He loves, he loves it.
• 21:52
  I just like to cruise.
• 21:53
  Oh, yeah.
• 21:53
  So it works out well.
• 21:55
  But yeah, I was like, okay, this is something we agree on, documentary nerd stuff for me, cruise ship stuff for him.
• 22:00
  I thought it was gonna be like a lighthearted like look at this idiot captain who like bumped into these rocks within like 100 feet of shore and all...
• 22:09
  No, it was devastating.
• 22:10
  It was terrible.
• 22:11
  And I was like, oh my gosh, I'm watching this, and these, parents have to strap their 15-month-old child to their chest and like slide down the side of the boat, and I...
• 22:21
  it did not go the way that I thought it was gonna go.
• 22:24
  And Brian's like, um, if it hits the rock- Pretty much at this point- Pretty much it's going to sink.
• 22:29
  He was like...
• 22:30
  By the way, I noticed I say pretty much a lot.
• 22:33
  Oh.
• 22:34
  I don't know you'll no- now when you go to edit it, you'll- I'm gonna seek it out, yeah search for it, yeah.
• 22:38
  But yeah, Brian was like,"Well, the watertight doors, you know, didn't shut correctly, and then the engines," and I'm like,"Okay," wow.
• 22:47
  He's all into the technical.
• 22:48
  Pretty much.
• 22:49
  It...
• 22:49
  Again, see?
• 22:51
  I need another way to say it.
• 22:52
  Exactly.
• 22:54
  Exactly.
• 22:54
  Ditto.
• 22:55
  I'll start saying ditto or exactly.
• 22:58
  But yeah, thought it was gonna be like a lighthearted like, oh, let's watch this together, and we are watching just pure tragedy.
• 23:06
  And the way that it unfolds is these parents that I was saying that strap the 15-month-old and they're going down the slide, they're interviewing them- Mm-hmm and you never see the child, and then they start crying, and, you know, you assume that...
• 23:18
  And then they're like,"She hit her head when we were going down the s- the slide." And you're like, oh my gosh.
• 23:22
  She's fine.
• 23:23
  She lived.
• 23:23
  Yeah.
• 23:24
  It was like they did it on purpose.
• 23:26
  Mm-hmm.
• 23:27
  But I didn't need that.
• 23:28
  Yeah.
• 23:29
  Especially when I was going for one vibe and got something totally off.
• 23:32
  That sucks when that happens.
• 23:33
  Oh my gosh.
• 23:35
  Yeah.
• 23:35
  It's like when you think you're drinking like tea- It is and it's soda.
• 23:38
  Uh-huh.
• 23:40
  Uh-huh.
• 23:40
  That's definitely what it was.
• 23:42
  It was not...
• 23:43
  It was interesting.
• 23:44
  It was fascinating.
• 23:45
  It kept both of our attention, but pulled the wrong emotions out of both of us.
• 23:50
  Mm-hmm.
• 23:50
  Yeah.
• 23:51
  Um, yeah.
• 23:51
  You know what I did watch while I was up in Pennsylvania with my sister?
• 23:55
  We watched, The Housemaid.
• 23:57
  Oh, that's so good, isn't it?
• 23:59
  It was so good.
• 24:00
  We read that.
• 24:00
  We read the book, yeah- Yeah by Freida McFadden.
• 24:03
  McFadden.
• 24:03
  Yeah.
• 24:03
  Uh-huh.
• 24:04
  Yeah.
• 24:04
  But the movie was great.
• 24:05
  Uh-huh.
• 24:06
  Really good.
• 24:07
  The actress is, I forgot, I just lost her name.
• 24:10
  Phenomenal.
• 24:11
  Mm-hmm.
• 24:12
  Especially to me, the wife.
• 24:15
  Mm-hmm.
• 24:16
  And she was in, Mean Girls.
• 24:17
  Yeah.
• 24:19
  I wanna say Amanda Seyfried or something.
• 24:20
  Is that her?
• 24:21
  Sydney Sweeney is the younger one Mm-hmm And then Amanda, Seyfried.
• 24:25
  Okay.
• 24:26
  She, to me, was amazing.
• 24:29
  Yeah.
• 24:29
  Amazing.
• 24:31
  Me and my sister were like,"Well, she deserves whatever she ge- she's gonna get.
• 24:34
  She's sleeping with a married man." Yeah.
• 24:35
  "She deserves to be murdered." And I, we had read it, I mean- Yeah, yeah so long ago, I was like,"I know I read the book.
• 24:42
  I like the book." Yeah.
• 24:43
  And we were just trying to find something to watch- Yeah'cause- Mm-hmm God, the TV is awful now.
• 24:48
  Yeah.
• 24:49
  But, It was really good.
• 24:50
  It, it followed the book- Yeah a lot., I don't know.
• 24:53
  That's all I got.
• 24:53
  That's all I got, too.
• 24:54
  That sucks.
• 24:57
  Pretty much.
• 24:58
  Do you want to do Am I Normal?
• 25:00
  Of course I do.
• 25:00
  Okay, am I the a-hole for cutting off my daughter after she slept with her sister's husband?
• 25:05
  Ooh.
• 25:07
  So original post, this was July 3rd, so just a couple of weeks ago.
• 25:12
  "I, 59 female, have two daughters, Emma, 35 female, and Chloe, 33 female.
• 25:18
  Emma has been married to her husband, 36 male, for 11 years.
• 25:23
  They have two children together.
• 25:24
  Chloe has been married to her husband, 34 male, for eight years, and they have one five-year-old son." Okay, so they're all married.
• 25:31
  They all have kids.
• 25:32
  Okay.
• 25:34
  "About six weeks ago, Emma called me just after midnight, completely hysterical.
• 25:38
  She told me she'd suspected for months that her husband was hiding something.
• 25:42
  He'd become distant, constantly guarded his phone, and was always finding excuses to stay late at work.
• 25:48
  That night, after he fell asleep beside her, she looked through his phone for the first time.
• 25:52
  She found years of explicit messages between him and Chloe." Ugh.
• 25:58
  Mm-hmm.
• 25:58
  "The affair had been going on for almost four years.
• 26:01
  Emma was devastated.
• 26:02
  She kept asking me how her own sister could do this to her.
• 26:06
  A few days later, we were at my brother's birthday party when Emma confronted Chloe outside the house.
• 26:11
  Chloe denied everything at first and insisted Emma had misunderstood.
• 26:15
  When Emma said she'd read the messages herself, Chloe completely fell apart.
• 26:19
  She started crying, admitted the affair, and kept repeating,'I don't know why I did it.
• 26:23
  I'm so sorry.
• 26:23
  It was the biggest mistake of my life.' Emma asked," this is what was going through my mind,"Emma asked how four years could be a mistake." Amen.
• 26:31
  Uh-huh.
• 26:32
  "Chloe had no answer.
• 26:33
  The argument escalated into a screaming match.
• 26:36
  Chloe tried to slap Emma, but several relatives stepped in before she could.
• 26:40
  Chloe's husband quietly took their son home after realizing what had happened.
• 26:45
  Within days, he told Chloe he wanted a divorce.
• 26:47
  Emma also filed for divorce after her husband admitted everything.
• 26:51
  After it all came out, Chloe called me 82 times in one day.
• 26:55
  I answered once because I hoped she was-" Calling to explain herself.
• 26:59
  And it's- But like what kind of explanation could there possibly be?
• 27:01
  Yeah, other than an apology, li- and like you- No, like groveling on your knees- Yeah there's no explanation.
• 27:07
  Um, okay, so instead she cried the entire time begging me not to abandon her.
• 27:12
  She said she'd already lost her husband, was probably gonna lose shared custody of her son, and couldn't bear losing her mother too.
• 27:19
  But did you notice she, she wasn't concerned about losing her sister?
• 27:21
  Mm-hmm.
• 27:22
  You're right.
• 27:24
  She said she knew she didn't deserve forgiveness, but begged me not to hate her forever.
• 27:28
  I told her I couldn't look at her the same way anymore.
• 27:30
  I said this wasn't one bad decision, it was years of lying to her sister, her husband, and the rest of us.
• 27:37
  I told her I loved her because she's my daughter, but I didn't want contact with her for the foreseeable future.
• 27:44
  Sorry, I was struggling.
• 27:46
  Since then, I've ignored every attempt she's made to reach out.
• 27:50
  This is where my family thinks I'm wrong.
• 27:52
  My sisters say Chloe has already lost everything, her marriage, her relationship with her sister, many of her friends, and likely the family she dreamed of giving her son.
• 28:00
  They say she's genuinely remorseful, has started individual therapy, and isn't trying to justify what she did.
• 28:06
  They argue that if a mother won't stand by her child after they've hit rock bottom, who will?
• 28:11
  They also remind me that cutting Chloe means I'm cutting off my grandson and he's growing up without his grandmother, even though he's done nothing wrong.
• 28:19
  I understand all of that, but every time I think about welcoming Chloe back into my life, I picture Emma reading those messages alone in the middle of the night, realizing that two of the people she trusted most have been lying to her for years.
• 28:32
  I don't know if I can move past that.
• 28:34
  My family says I'm punishing Chloe forever for something she already deeply regrets.
• 28:39
  I feel like I'm simply refusing to pretend it never happened.
• 28:43
  Am I the a-hole?
• 28:45
  So, no, she's not.
• 28:47
  I mean, forever is a long time.
• 28:48
  Mm-hmm.
• 28:49
  So I mean, like, she's in her emotions right now.
• 28:51
  She's even, she says fore- foreseeable future.
• 28:53
  Yeah.
• 28:53
  Like, she's not saying forever.
• 28:54
  No.
• 28:54
  She's just like,"Give me some time." Yeah, and I think that that is fair.
• 28:56
  Mm-hmm.
• 28:57
  I don't, don't think she's an asshole for that.
• 28:58
  Mm-hmm.
• 28:58
  And I think that, Chloe...
• 29:00
  Now, did you catch this?
• 29:01
  Because when I initially read this post- Mm I didn't catch this.
• 29:04
  Chloe tried to, this cheater, tried to hit her sister.
• 29:08
  Like, she went to- Oh hit Mother, right?
• 29:10
  I initially like- Thought thought it was the other way around.
• 29:13
  Yeah.
• 29:14
  No, Chloe, the cheater, tries to slap- The victim the victim, because I'm sure she was calling her all sorts of things- Yeah and saying exactly what she thought of her, which- Which was true which is- Valid valid.
• 29:26
  Yeah.
• 29:27
  So family- Mm is complicated.
• 29:29
  It is so complicated.
• 29:31
  I go back and forth between their family, their family, their family, their family, and then you don't owe anybody anything.
• 29:39
  No.
• 29:39
  And you have to do what makes you okay, and your your people okay.
• 29:43
  Yeah I go back and forth between those two- Mm like really hard.
• 29:47
  But, how remorseful is she if the affair was still continuing for four years?
• 29:51
  Oh, zero.
• 29:51
  Zero remorse.
• 29:51
  She's, she's remorseful that she got caught.
• 29:53
  She's sad she got caught.
• 29:54
  She's- And then everybody- Yeah knows.
• 29:56
  Mm-hmm.
• 29:56
  Exactly.
• 29:57
  Yep.
• 29:58
  What.
• 29:58
  That's exactly what it is.
• 29:59
  She's, she's upset she got caught.
• 30:01
  She is not upset it happened.
• 30:03
  I don't understand this part about them accusing the grandmother of cutting off the grandson.
• 30:09
  Well, because Chloe said that she might lose custody.
• 30:11
  Yeah, but the dad?
• 30:13
  Right, but- I don't know.
• 30:14
  Just whatever.
• 30:15
  You know, if it's hard feelings- Yeah he might just cut off the whole family- Yeah which, I mean, I could see happening too- Yeah, yeah if, especially, right now in the midst of it all, it just coming out.
• 30:23
  Everything, oh, yeah.
• 30:24
  So I'm assuming that's what they're referring to.
• 30:27
  Yeah.
• 30:27
  But, I think it's completely fair for everybody to say,"Hey, we need to step back from this for a second." Uh-huh, yep.
• 30:34
  And- And I don't know if I'll be back.
• 30:36
  I think that's okay.
• 30:38
  I do too.
• 30:39
  100%.
• 30:39
  I don't think she's an a-hole at all.
• 30:40
  Mm-hmm.
• 30:40
  And again, I go back and forth between their family no matter what, and then, you know, just you gotta do what's best for you.
• 30:46
  I just think that some people are just evil and Yeah um, when it's time to, to cut them out of your life, it's time to cut them out of your life- Yeah regardless of what.
• 30:55
  Yeah.
• 30:56
  Well, and not even evil, but it's just That's evil I'm giving you...
• 30:59
  You, that is, that is.
• 31:01
  But I'm, I'm becoming big on I'm giving you what you're giving me.
• 31:04
  Mm-hmm.
• 31:04
  Whatever energy you're putting out, the effort you're putting out, I'm matching you.
• 31:08
  I'm turning into that person, and not and not the one doing all the things.
• 31:14
  Yeah.
• 31:15
  Okay, updates?
• 31:15
  Yes, I think so.
• 31:17
  July 6th, which is three days later Okay"i know it's very early for me to post an update, and I wasn't planning on it, but after reading the comments on my first post, I decided I needed one final conversation with Chloe before I completely closed the door.
• 31:33
  I went to her house yesterday, and I expected her to be emotional after calling me 82 times in one day, but she was surprisingly calm.
• 31:40
  I asked her the one question I still couldn't understand,'Why?' She admitted she'd been attracted to Emma's husband for years." So She, okay.
• 31:50
  She said what started as an admiration eventually became feelings, and over time they crossed a line.
• 31:55
  Instead of ending it, they kept convincing themselves it would be the last time.
• 31:59
  She insisted she regretted everything.
• 32:01
  I asked if she'd spoken to Emma.
• 32:03
  She told me the only contact she'd had was one text before Emma blocked her on everything.
• 32:09
  Emma told her she'd destroyed their family, taken away her children's stable home, and that she hoped the affair had been worth losing a sister forever, because as far as she was concerned, Chloe no longer had one.
• 32:21
  Emma blocked her immediately afterward.
• 32:23
  Rightfully so.
• 32:24
  Uh-huh.
• 32:25
  Yeah.
• 32:25
  Chloe also admitted she later waited outside the school gates hoping to speak to Emma when she came to collect the kids.
• 32:32
  Emma refused to speak to her, warned her to stay away from her and the children, and told her that if she ever approached them again, she'd regret it, and Chloe left crying.
• 32:40
  I told Chloe her waiting outside the school was completely inappropriate, regardless of her intentions.
• 32:45
  Yeah, now you got all these kids involved.
• 32:47
  Okay, so she insisted she only wanted to apologize and prove she cared about Emma.
• 32:52
  I then asked if she truly felt remorse.
• 32:54
  That's when I completely lost my patience.
• 32:56
  Instead of taking full responsibility, Chloe started telling me Emma's marriage had already been falling apart, that Emma and her husband had been drifting apart for years, and that he often confided in her.
• 33:07
  She admitted the affair was wrong, but repeatedly tried to place part of the blame on Emma, saying if their marriage had been happier, none of this would have happened, and I was furious.
• 33:16
  I honestly couldn't believe I had raised someone capable of thinking like that.
• 33:20
  I told her there is no marriage bad enough to justify secretly sleeping with your own sister's husband for four years.
• 33:27
  I told her I wasn't just disappointed, I was ashamed that she was my daughter.
• 33:31
  The more she tried to justify herself, the angrier I became.
• 33:34
  The conversation eventually turned to her own divorce.
• 33:37
  She talked about how difficult everything had been for her and how her husband still plans to move to Washington with their son to be closer to his family.
• 33:45
  She said she may have to move there too if she wants to stay close to him.
• 33:48
  As she spoke, I realized almost everything was about what she had lost, her marriage, her home, her reputation, and possibly seeing her son every day.
• 33:57
  Very little of it was about Emma or the damage she caused.
• 34:01
  At the end of the conversation, Chloe asked if we're, quote,"cool now." I told her we are not cool and we might not ever be.
• 34:08
  I said that if I ever found it in my heart to reconcile with her, it would be on my terms and in my own time, not because she thought one conversation could erase four years of lies and betrayal.
• 34:18
  I walked out feeling angrier than when I arrived.
• 34:20
  I honestly don't know what to do anymore.
• 34:22
  I love both of my daughters, but after that conversation, i'm not convinced Chloe truly understands the pain she's caused.
• 34:30
  What a narcissist Eh?
• 34:32
  Men.
• 34:33
  regardless, okay, so even if the sister's marriage was, not great- Right she cheated on her own husband.
• 34:40
  Right.
• 34:40
  Was her marriage falling apart too?
• 34:41
  Right.
• 34:42
  Right.
• 34:43
  We've got nothing about that.
• 34:44
  No So regardless, not that, I mean, that, that- Right doesn't justify anything anyway.
• 34:49
  But she just blew up her, her own marriage as well.
• 34:54
  So no thought about- No her husband.
• 34:56
  Mm-mm.
• 34:57
  Her soon to be ex.
• 34:58
  Mm-hmm.
• 34:58
  No, just how her life is inconvenienced now pretty much.
• 35:02
  Yeah.
• 35:02
  And everybody thinks she's terrible.
• 35:03
  Yeah.
• 35:04
  And that their marriage was bad, and basically she did him a favor.
• 35:07
  Yeah, yeah.
• 35:08
  That is crazy.
• 35:10
  Yeah.
• 35:11
  Ugh.
• 35:12
  And I understand what the mom says there, like,"I love them." Yeah.
• 35:16
  You can still love somebody and want nothing to do with them.
• 35:19
  Yes.
• 35:19
  You 1000% can.
• 35:21
  And the other thing is too is you can feel any way you wanna feel.
• 35:24
  Mm.
• 35:25
  Like, you're entitled to your own feelings.
• 35:26
  I tell Brian that all the time.
• 35:28
  He's like,"Why are you mad?" I was like,"Because I can be." Yeah.
• 35:29
  Like, I am entitled for this to make me feel any way I wanna feel.
• 35:34
  Right.
• 35:34
  So.
• 35:35
  Yeah.
• 35:36
  Ew.
• 35:37
  Yeah.
• 35:38
  I don't like her.
• 35:39
  I don't like her either.
• 35:41
  But the husband is moving quite far away- Yeah to be by his family.
• 35:45
  Yeah.
• 35:45
  Whatever.
• 35:46
  I don't really know if, the courts, how that would work.
• 35:49
  Right.
• 35:50
  Wherever they're initially located, I can't see them being like,"Yeah, he, just because he cheated, he can like- Yeah, yeah go four states over," or whatever.
• 35:58
  So I don't really know, like, the logistics of that.
• 36:01
  But, I'll have to move if I wa- if I wanna see my son...
• 36:04
  Like, no.
• 36:05
  That is, that is- I mean, like- That- There's no, nothing, nothing in this world- Uh-uh that would keep me from being able to see my child on a regular basis.
• 36:14
  Mm-mm.
• 36:14
  Like- Every decision I have made for the past almost 17 years, and I'm sure you're this way with Dylan, the first thought whatever the situation is, if I working late- Mm-hmm if I'm, doing this, is, is Jackson taken care of?
• 36:29
  Yeah.
• 36:30
  And I'm sure you're the same way.
• 36:31
  Yeah.
• 36:31
  Like, whenever something, the first thing that pops,"How do I work this out with Jackson?" Yeah.
• 36:35
  Especially when they're little.
• 36:36
  Mm-hmm.
• 36:36
  You know, you've gotta do things.
• 36:37
  I cannot even fathom that being an afterthought.
• 36:41
  Mm-mm.
• 36:42
  No.
• 36:43
  And I think the mom had responded to a comment somewhere in there- Uh-huh That Chloe tried to contact the affair partner after it all blew up, and he blocked her.
• 36:54
  So she's lost- Everybody that too.
• 36:56
  Yeah.
• 36:56
  I mean, I- But she deserves to lose it all.
• 36:59
  I'm sorry, consequences.
• 37:00
  Yeah.
• 37:01
  Yeah.
• 37:02
  Consequences.
• 37:03
  And sometimes karma comes around, and she just gets, she gets- Feisty.
• 37:09
  Yeah.
• 37:10
  She sure does.
• 37:11
  She's my bestie.
• 37:14
  Oh, my goodness.
• 37:15
  I feel bad for that mom, though.
• 37:16
  Can you imagine?
• 37:17
  Mm-hmm.
• 37:17
  Like- Again, you still love your child, but you're not proud of the decisions they've made and- And not like even being embarrassed of them, but just, you know, knowing that they're making just wrong, wrong, wrong choices.
• 37:32
  But as the child, she should give the mom that space that she asks for.
• 37:35
  Oh my...
• 37:36
  Well, again, though, it's all about her.
• 37:37
  Yeah, I know.
• 37:38
  And, and yeah.
• 37:38
  Yeah.
• 37:39
  But yeah, when you make a mistake, you can apologize, but then you've got to wait for them to come to their own conclusion, and everybody's timeline is different.
• 37:47
  Whatever.
• 37:48
  You are not the a-hole mama.
• 37:49
  No.
• 37:50
  Chloe sucks.
• 37:51
  Yeah.
• 37:51
  Bring...
• 37:52
  Send Chloe over here.
• 37:53
  Let us talk to her for a little bit.
• 37:55
  Oh.
• 37:56
  Oof.
• 37:57
  Now you sent me, a documentary that you said you wanted to- Yes talk about.
• 38:01
  Uh, so do you wanna do that for next week?
• 38:02
  Yes.
• 38:03
  Okay.
• 38:03
  Let's do that for next week.
• 38:04
  What was it called?
• 38:04
  It is called Should I Marry A Murderer?
• 38:07
  Yes.
• 38:07
  Okay.
• 38:07
  And it's on Netflix.
• 38:08
  Okay.
• 38:09
  And it- Not Netfleeks.
• 38:11
  Not Netfleeks.
• 38:11
  Don't go there.
• 38:12
  But it's based in Scotland.
• 38:13
  Okay.
• 38:14
  So- All the accents sure there's gonna be accents.
• 38:16
  Yeah.
• 38:17
  I've watched a little bit of it, but then I was kinda waiting to hear what you said, so it seems pretty fascinating.
• 38:22
  Okay.
• 38:22
  So we'll- Let's do that next week.
• 38:23
  Okay.
• 38:24
  So if you are not a bookie, you may now exit the podcast.
• 38:27
  You're dismissed.
• 38:27
  Please come back and, um, listen next week and love us.
• 38:30
  And- And love us five stars.
• 38:32
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• 38:33
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• 38:33
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• 38:34
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• 38:35
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• 38:36
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• 38:36
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• 38:36
  Okay.
• 38:37
  Bookies.
• 38:37
  Yes.
• 38:38
  So we read The Island Club by Nicola Harrison.
• 38:43
  Which was our palate cleanser kind of book.
• 38:46
  Yes.
• 38:46
  Not our norm, but I liked it.
• 38:49
  I did too.
• 38:49
  Okay.
• 38:50
  I did too.
• 38:50
  So I'm not gonna do the whole back of the book whatever, but the story is set in the 1950s, and I know that you love a- Yes go back in time book.
• 39:00
  Yeah.
• 39:00
  So this was right up your alley.
• 39:02
  Yes.
• 39:02
  Mm-hmm.
• 39:02
  100%.
• 39:03
  It was set on Bulba Island right off California, and we had three main characters.
• 39:07
  Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
• 39:08
  Three ladies.
• 39:09
  Three ladies.
• 39:10
  Yes, and we love a good, strong-willed- Yes basic characters.
• 39:16
  Yes.
• 39:17
  So when I was digging in Hoopla and Libby trying to find a book, I knew I needed a palate cleanser.
• 39:23
  I needed, a little shift.
• 39:25
  And, you know, I loved when we read Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo.
• 39:29
  I still love that book.
• 39:30
  Still love that book.
• 39:31
  It's great.
• 39:31
  And so I put in, you know, give me something like that or whatever, and this popped up, and I can see the correlation.
• 39:37
  Yeah.
• 39:37
  I loved this book.
• 39:38
  I read it twice.
• 39:39
  So I read it the one time, and then when we decided, I was like,"I better brush up." I really enjoyed this.
• 39:44
  I enjoyed the, it being in the'50s, just the differences in the way the women were.
• 39:51
  So two were married- Mm-hmm and one was not.
• 39:54
  Right I will say this is not a- Spoilers Yeah, yeah.
• 40:00
  This book is not a very descriptive book.
• 40:03
  Mm-hmm.
• 40:04
  It is, more emotions.
• 40:06
  Yes.
• 40:07
  There's one of the main characters, her name is Adele.
• 40:10
  Mm-hmm.
• 40:10
  I didn't know she was Black- Mm until the end.
• 40:12
  Same Or, like, mid whatever when they said something about it, because they never even tell you what these people look like.
• 40:18
  Yeah.
• 40:18
  And I didn't have them in my head as, like, three white women looking like I Love Lucy in the dresses- Mm-hmm and all the things.
• 40:23
  And I usually have characters in my head, but I didn't with this book, and I didn't realize that until they said that, and I was like,"Well, now I need to know what everybody else looks like." Yeah.
• 40:31
  But it got a lot of emotion out of me.
• 40:33
  Mm.
• 40:34
  I really liked it.
• 40:35
  It was very much like a book of, women friendship and- Uh-huh the effects of hiding the secrets.
• 40:41
  Um- Uh-huh and then, and even amongst l- your regular friend groups, like you might not say what's going on behind closed doors- Mm-hmm in your marriage.
• 40:48
  Mm-hmm.
• 40:48
  You might not say that you think your husband's cheating.
• 40:51
  Right.
• 40:51
  And that weighs on you personally.
• 40:54
  Mm-hmm.
• 40:54
  That weight of,"I can't tell anybody because I have to have this image." Yes.
• 40:59
  Yes, or,"I don't want to destroy their image-" Right because one of the husbands ends up coming out of the closet.
• 41:05
  Right.
• 41:05
  And, she felt like this was a, turned into a loveless mes- marriage anyway, and she wasn't happy in this marriage anyway anymore.
• 41:11
  But go her, she got that- She still grabbed a young- that brew buck, kind of that young buck I know.
• 41:15
  I loved that for her.
• 41:17
  I love that for her, but, but she wanted to kind of protect his image because, again, in the'50s, and that just didn't happen.
• 41:24
  Okay, so let's go hit that situation real quick- Okay'cause he was a movie producer.
• 41:28
  Yes.
• 41:28
  And she believed that he was having an affair with one of the actresses- Mm-hmm this young, beautiful- The starlet yeah, actress.
• 41:34
  Yeah.
• 41:34
  And, he even went so far as, he was gonna turn their...
• 41:37
  I was just picturing, this shed.
• 41:39
  Yeah.
• 41:40
  Like- Yeah like a she shed, like but- Like a she shed, yeah i pictured a tree house.
• 41:43
  Oh.
• 41:44
  I did picture, a tree house.
• 41:46
  So they had, like, a, a building behind their home.
• 41:49
  Yeah.
• 41:49
  And I, for, I, I was just picturing this, she shed.
• 41:53
  Yeah.
• 41:53
  And he said he was gonna move out there- Mm-hmm when he was there.
• 41:56
  But he got a, a separate apartment- Yep which he claimed was because he, traveling was too much- Yeah back and forth- Back and forth from Hollywood to this island.
• 42:05
  And I was like- Yeah.
• 42:07
  Holy moly.
• 42:08
  Yeah.
• 42:09
  And, and you know, it's relatable even in these times, like when the marriage gets a little bit stale or whatever- Mm-hmm and you s- you know, you're doing everything you can to try to figure out, like- Yeah how do I get our marriage back?
• 42:20
  Right.
• 42:21
  And it's just not being reciprocated.
• 42:23
  Yeah, So a lot of these things, like even though it was set in the'50s, and definitely- Totally, but- times have changed- Yeah a lot of the core things- Mm-hmm are still relevant today.
• 42:33
  Right, right.
• 42:34
  So- A lot of the pr- the problems that they're having.
• 42:36
  Yes.
• 42:36
  So she had rented out this quote she-shed.
• 42:38
  It was like, um, I'm trying to relate everything, so it was like grad week was coming to town- Right basically, and, she was renting out the she-shed.
• 42:44
  She thought w- she was renting it to a group of girls.
• 42:47
  Turns out, a group of young college guys.
• 42:49
  Mm-hmm.
• 42:49
  So, what was this lady?
• 42:51
  Was this Millie?
• 42:52
  Yes.
• 42:53
  So Millie is in her late 20s, and she married her husband when he was 10 years older.
• 42:58
  So she's not a stale- No dusty, cobwebbed- 40-year-old No.
• 43:05
  No.
• 43:07
  So I mean, she's still, you know, vibrant and, and other things.
• 43:09
  Like, young-ish, yeah.
• 43:10
  Yeah.
• 43:11
  So these college guys come, and it's awkward for her because, again, it's in the'50s, but she has this motherly instinct, kind of, like she likes taking care of people.
• 43:19
  Right.
• 43:19
  And she makes them food and cookies and stuff and takes it over, whatever.
• 43:22
  But this one dude, she s- you know, starts feeling the things for.
• 43:26
  Come to find out he's a little bit older.
• 43:28
  Mm-hmm.
• 43:28
  He's in med school, so he's already out of She's like,"Oh, he's not as old as I thought he was." Yeah, no.
• 43:33
  And I'm like,"Yep, he is not." Mm-hmm.
• 43:36
  Or not as young as I thought he was.
• 43:37
  Yeah.
• 43:37
  But anyway again, as you're listening to it, and you're like conflicted, and y- she definitely shouldn't be having the affair- Yeah even though she thinks that her husband's having the affair- Yeah because he had- It doesn't make it right it doesn't make it right.
• 43:49
  But, you know, like, you still feel all the feelings that- Yeah as you're going through the book, right?
• 43:54
  Yeah.
• 43:54
  Fast-forward, she goes to find her husband because he did come back, but she was, she was with- She had gone on a walk with Wes.
• 44:03
  Yes.
• 44:03
  I think his name was Wes.
• 44:04
  To his boathouse.
• 44:05
  Mm-hmm.
• 44:06
  The boat's rocking.
• 44:08
  It was a-rocking.
• 44:10
  So she went to go find the husband, and We find out he gets fired because everybody finds out about his affair- Mm-hmm not with a starlet, but with a man.
• 44:21
  Mm-hmm.
• 44:22
  And back then, it, that was not- Not- accepted and, he had to get a new job and move.
• 44:29
  To New York, I think?
• 44:30
  Mm-hmm.
• 44:30
  Yeah.
• 44:30
  Yeah.
• 44:31
  So- To run from the scandal, and wanted her to go with.
• 44:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 44:34
  And she was like, at first, she kind of debated a little bit.
• 44:37
  She was like,"I can't live like that." Yeah.
• 44:39
  That is not the life I want for me, is to be in this situation.
• 44:43
  So she bagged herself a doctor.
• 44:45
  She did.
• 44:46
  To take over the bills.
• 44:49
  Pay my telephone bill.
• 44:52
  But yeah.
• 44:52
  So then we also have, the lady that owns- Sylvia Sylvia.
• 44:56
  And Sylvia owns the, the club.
• 44:58
  There's a tennis club in town, and the, and the tennis club is like the central location.
• 45:01
  they hang out there, they meet there.
• 45:03
  There's tennis lessons there.
• 45:05
  So Sylvia and her husband own the club, so they're like the people in town that have the...
• 45:10
  We think they have the money, and they have the prestige, and this, this- They've got the biggest house on the island.
• 45:15
  Yes.
• 45:15
  They've got all the things.
• 45:16
  They, they host the parties.
• 45:17
  Right.
• 45:17
  Yeah.
• 45:18
  Well, Sylvia then comes out as, you know, all the secrets are spilling- Mm-hmm that her husband gambled everything away.
• 45:26
  Everything away.
• 45:26
  They lost their house.
• 45:27
  Yep.
• 45:28
  Um, so she was living next door to Adele.
• 45:30
  Adele.
• 45:31
  Mm-hmm.
• 45:31
  Um, and like they described it as a shack.
• 45:33
  Yeah.
• 45:33
  And I'm sure it wasn't- Yeah.
• 45:35
  but compared to her- But she- living in her 20,000 square foot house, whatever Right.
• 45:39
  And she's, she's got a teenage daughter, which that's a big adjustment- Uh-huh when you go from having everything to having nothing.
• 45:45
  Yeah.
• 45:46
  So- And then there's the angst there between the daughter and the mom because the mom's trying to protect the family still, and the daughter's blaming it all on the mom.
• 45:53
  Like,"You're the reason we're moving here," and she wants to be like,"No, actually, your father- He does is the one who did the thing." Right.
• 45:59
  So she, uh, you have that relationship.
• 46:02
  Right.
• 46:03
  Um, so like towards the end of the book, due...
• 46:07
  Her husband comes, comes in, like, beat up.
• 46:10
  Yeah.
• 46:11
  Like, beat up- Yeah by the bad guys who he owes all this money to- Mm-hmm for gambling everything away.
• 46:16
  Mm-hmm.
• 46:16
  Yep.
• 46:17
  And that's the realization of it's just money.
• 46:20
  Yeah.
• 46:20
  Your health and you being okay- Yeah is worth more than- Living in this house- Right and having the things and being the, yeah, being the people.
• 46:29
  Yeah.
• 46:29
  So- Yeah.
• 46:30
  So So they sold the house.
• 46:31
  They, they move into the shack, and they think that they're gonna- Which is probably like my house.
• 46:35
  I know.
• 46:36
  Same.
• 46:37
  And they think that they're gonna have to sell the club or lose the club.
• 46:40
  I guess it'll get foreclosed upon.
• 46:42
  And then let's throw in Adele.
• 46:44
  Mm-hmm.
• 46:44
  So Adele is very, very much an introvert.
• 46:49
  Well, made herself like a recluse almost.
• 46:51
  Yeah.
• 46:51
  She didn't speak to anybody.
• 46:52
  Right.
• 46:52
  She didn't- Right want any kind of relationships with anyone.
• 46:55
  Her job was she worked at a fair or carnival place in, like, the office, so she wasn't around people.
• 47:02
  And again, throw this in there, too, she was Black in the'50s.
• 47:05
  And we didn't know this, though.
• 47:06
  Right.
• 47:07
  Right.
• 47:07
  That just hit me, like, whoa, I mean, that was a...
• 47:10
  Especially when you know the rest of her story, which comes out that she was this, amazing tennis player.
• 47:15
  Mm-hmm.
• 47:15
  Like, the woman in...
• 47:18
  That she had won, I don't know, all the tennis awards, but she had won them all.
• 47:20
  Yeah.
• 47:21
  And she was very confident in herself in that, um, she ends up saying,"I could have beat any woman, and if the men would've played me, I'd have beat them, too." And I was like...
• 47:31
  Yeah.
• 47:32
  Perfect.
• 47:32
  But we find out that she's a recluse because she had been in this game, or playing this game, and she wasn't her best self.
• 47:39
  Well, her, her dad was very, very hard- A lot of pressure on her.
• 47:44
  Yeah.
• 47:44
  Like, think child star type of- Yes, yes prodigy.
• 47:48
  Right.
• 47:48
  Maybe that's the better word.
• 47:49
  Living vicariously through her.
• 47:51
  There was a, a sentence in, in the book that said that the dad told the mom,"This is our ticket." Yeah.
• 47:57
  About Adele, Adeline back then.
• 47:59
  Yeah.
• 47:59
  "She's our ticket to getting everything we want." Yeah.
• 48:02
  And- she overheard that, and that's so much pressure, and she just wanted her dad's attention.
• 48:07
  Mm-hmm.
• 48:07
  And so she was prepared to do whatever she needed to do to keep that- And to please him- Yeah to, to, yeah, to live up to everything that he was...
• 48:14
  And then she finds out that, he makes a comment that, like,"If you don't play great, we lose everything," and he's ha- gotten accustomed to how they're living, and she's like,"Oh, even more pressure." And the kid shouldn't be, No paying for- No the whole family.
• 48:28
  Jackson, don't listen,'cause when you go to the NFL, you should be.
• 48:31
  I'm just playing.
• 48:34
  And your, your mom's podcast partner.
• 48:36
  Yeah.
• 48:37
  Oh, yeah 100%.
• 48:39
  So at the s- her career just, like, stops.
• 48:42
  Mm-hmm.
• 48:42
  And her career stops because she is gonna play this other lady, girl, I don't remember how old they were at the time, but she's gonna play this other person who's already beaten her once, and Adele was like,"I've gotta win, I've gotta win.
• 48:56
  I've gotta beat her.
• 48:57
  I've gotta make my dad happy." And she sab- tries to sabotage the girl, and it doesn't work in her favor, and then she lashes out and she, like, throws her club and the woman gets injured.
• 49:07
  So it's, it's just so- Her racket?
• 49:09
  Yeah.
• 49:10
  Her, not her club.
• 49:11
  Not her club.
• 49:12
  She doesn't own a club.
• 49:13
  It's like, wait a second, I'm like, am I mis- remembering what movie- No, you're 100% right.
• 49:17
  100%.
• 49:17
  She throws her...
• 49:18
  I almost said it again.
• 49:19
  Racket.
• 49:19
  She throws her racket.
• 49:21
  She throws her racket, it hits the lady.
• 49:23
  She's permanently disfigured, and, Which, like- I know it's a racket.
• 49:28
  I know.
• 49:28
  Whatever.
• 49:29
  It's a club.
• 49:29
  Who cares?
• 49:30
  And then I'm thinking, like, the Nancy Kerrigan.
• 49:32
  Oh, yeah.
• 49:33
  Yeah.
• 49:34
  Yeah.
• 49:35
  So anyway, Adele is ashamed, and she's, shunned and all the things, so that's why she's a recluse.
• 49:41
  So They find out that she's a great tennis player.
• 49:44
  They don't know her backstory, these other ladies, at this point.
• 49:47
  They find out she's a great tennis player, so she starts giving tennis lessons, and again, in the'50s, a Black woman giving tennis lessons at this white club, so Sylvia had asked her to do the tennis lessons at the club That's why I kept saying club.
• 50:04
  Uh-huh.
• 50:04
  That word.
• 50:05
  Yeah.
• 50:06
  Because the men weren't taking them seriously, and they need to go home and make sandwiches- and stuff.
• 50:10
  So yeah, but then the men get mad.
• 50:12
  They're like,"You're taking all of our people, and- Mm-hmm all of our students, whatever, And she's French, and I love the accent.
• 50:16
  Uh-huh.
• 50:17
  And she's like,"No, you weren't teaching them anyway." Yeah.
• 50:19
  "S- they just want me." Mm-hmm.
• 50:21
  But- Good for her.
• 50:22
  Yeah, good for her.
• 50:24
  It winds up with, like, Adèle helping to save the club.
• 50:28
  Reporter comes, wants to do a big story on Adeline- Mm-hmm who is Adèle.
• 50:32
  Mm-hmm.
• 50:33
  And Adèle's like,"Uh, heck no, I'm out of here.""No, I will not talk to him." Yeah.
• 50:39
  Terrible French accent.
• 50:41
  Yeah she's like, This is why I'm, I'm hiding, because I don't want my stuff out there." She feels betrayed by Sylvia and Millie- Mm-hmm because Millie is now housing the reporter in- He's in the she shed the she shed.
• 50:54
  And they're like, you know, we all have secrets, and all the secrets spill, and then they all find a way to support each other- Mm-hmm and they all get through all of these awful things that they think is, like, the worst thing ever.
• 51:07
  'Cause when you're in, mix of it, like, when you're in it, it's- Yeah like, how am I ever gonna get through this?
• 51:12
  Mm-hmm.
• 51:13
  Especially if you're trying to do it alone.
• 51:15
  Yeah.
• 51:15
  So they find the support in each other and- Yeah, yeah all the good things.
• 51:20
  And they work together and, and.
• 51:23
  The women save the day.
• 51:25
  You know what?
• 51:25
  It happens so much, and we don't get credit for it.
• 51:28
  We don't get credit for it.
• 51:29
  We just get called all of the emotional names, and- That's true and you know what?
• 51:34
  I, I really do feel like men are more emotional than women- most of the time.
• 51:40
  Probably.
• 51:40
  Like, when things, go to shit, Yeah I really feel like women are able to handle- You know what?
• 51:46
  I agree.
• 51:47
  I agree.
• 51:48
  Like, in like, the daily life, yes, we're probably more emotional, and I cry all the time.
• 51:51
  I am the biggest crier- in the world, but- But i feel most women that I know aren't reactive.
• 51:59
  Yeah.
• 52:00
  They process.
• 52:02
  Mm-hmm.
• 52:02
  And then we might react.
• 52:04
  Right.
• 52:04
  But it's not an immediately- But we mean that reaction.
• 52:07
  Yes.
• 52:08
  But it's not immediate bad news and, like, swipe the things off the desk.
• 52:11
  It's not that kind of thing.
• 52:13
  Right.
• 52:13
  And most men, I think, are more impulsive- in their reactions.
• 52:16
  Mm-hmm.
• 52:16
  Maybe it's just the men I know.
• 52:18
  They're- Right.
• 52:19
  We're generalizing.
• 52:20
  Very much so.
• 52:21
  Yeah.
• 52:21
  I, I liked this book a lot.
• 52:23
  Yeah, same.
• 52:23
  I really did.
• 52:24
  Same.
• 52:24
  I really did.
• 52:25
  Good, good palate cleanser.
• 52:26
  Yeah.
• 52:27
  I will say, though, at, when I was reading it, I kept thinking for, like- a shoe to drop.
• 52:32
  Not like the bad things, but I kept thinking somebody was gonna die.
• 52:34
  I guess that's, I'm just- We watch- used to that We, we watch too many murdery things We read too many murdery things.
• 52:40
  But yeah, I just kept waiting for the shoe to drop- Mm-hmm But I did really like this book.
• 52:46
  Would read more by this author.
• 52:47
  Yeah, 100%.
• 52:48
  I'd give it a nine.
• 52:50
  Same.
• 52:50
  Yeah, I really, really liked it.
• 52:51
  I really don't even know why I wouldn't give it a 10, but, Because we didn't know of the, the character- Yeah descriptions.
• 52:56
  Yeah.
• 52:57
  I'd like some more description.
• 52:58
  Yeah.
• 52:59
  But out of everything else, the storyline, the emotions that were being pulled out of you- Uh-huh um, the relatability.
• 53:05
  Yeah.
• 53:05
  Nine though.
• 53:06
  Even though- Yeah it was set in the'50s- Yes you can still- Can we talk about though, the'50s were exhausting.
• 53:12
  All the things that the women had to do and are responsible for, and they didn't work.
• 53:16
  They did the house stuff.
• 53:17
  But I feel like now is more exhausting'cause we still have to do stuff- We're thinking, we're doing those things, and we're working on top of it.
• 53:21
  Yeah.
• 53:21
  So I don't know, it's all just- I just- Yes whoever wanted, like, these, like, equal- That, that was not me that, me either.
• 53:27
  I was born in the wrong era.
• 53:28
  Uh-huh.
• 53:29
  That was not me.
• 53:29
  I did not want that.
• 53:30
  Listen, I would've happily just had a martini ready.
• 53:34
  All the things already done and the martini waiting.
• 53:36
  Right.
• 53:37
  I would've been okay with that lifestyle.
• 53:38
  I do not want equality and that kind of stuff.
• 53:41
  No.
• 53:41
  I, hold the door for me.
• 53:43
  If you see me coming, hold the door.
• 53:44
  Mm-hmm.
• 53:44
  You know, help me walk downstairs.
• 53:45
  That's just manners.
• 53:47
  Well, yeah.
• 53:48
  That too.
• 53:48
  Yeah.
• 53:48
  But I mean, I don't wanna open one, so if there's a man in, like, 15- Huh feet radius, hold the door.
• 53:53
  Yeah.
• 53:55
  Dylan- Yeah Dylan is so good about that when we're out.
• 53:58
  Yeah.
• 53:58
  He makes sure that, that, like, everybody gets through.
• 54:00
  Yeah.
• 54:00
  Yeah a lot of the older women are like,"You don't see that in young kids these days." Yeah.
• 54:04
  And they're like- Yeah"Good job, mom," and I'm like...
• 54:06
  Yeah, I know.
• 54:07
  If there, if there's one thing I taught him, it was to hold open doors.
• 54:11
  It's a huge thing that means so much.
• 54:13
  'Cause I drilled it into him.
• 54:14
  That's good.
• 54:15
  Did I tell you, the first date Brent and I ever went on, it was, like, a blind date, and he just, like, walked through the door and, like, the door closed, and I was like,"Yep, nope, this is not gonna happen." That was a sign.
• 54:24
  It was a sign.
• 54:25
  That was, like, a year and a half before we actually started, or a year before we started dating.
• 54:28
  Yeah.
• 54:29
  We went on a blind date and I hated him.
• 54:30
  Yeah.
• 54:30
  And then, yeah.
• 54:32
  Anyway.
• 54:33
  Well, and here we are.
• 54:34
  We're back full circle.
• 54:35
  Full.
• 54:36
  Full circle.
• 54:39
  Yes, we are.
• 54:40
  I can open my own door.
• 54:41
  I can open my car door.
• 54:42
  And I don't mind doing that kind of stuff, but it's just very appreciated- Yeah when somebody else does it.
• 54:47
  And I also believe that there are specific roles and specific jobs that- Uh-huh this sounds awful, and I'm sure, like, I don't know, don't, don't send me- We can't lose any people.
• 54:57
  Don't send me hate mail.
• 54:59
  But- Hate texts- That's all right'cause most of you have my...
• 55:03
  Well, no, nobody has my new number.
• 55:06
  I can tell you.
• 55:06
  No, I'm just kidding.
• 55:08
  But I truly believe that women should not do certain roles, like- Yeah certain jobs and- Yeah and in the household, if there is a man involved in that house- Yeah there should be very separate things.
• 55:19
  Well, we do some things better than them.
• 55:20
  Yeah.
• 55:21
  I mean, and they do things better than us.
• 55:22
  You can't, you can't argue that.
• 55:24
  No.
• 55:25
  Like, for the most part, men are stronger than women- Right physically.
• 55:28
  That's a fact.
• 55:29
  Right.
• 55:30
  So anyway, yeah.
• 55:31
  Well, I think that it was a great book.
• 55:34
  So- It was a really good book thanks for the suggestion.
• 55:35
  It was a really good book.
• 55:36
  Do you wanna read a book next week, or we wanna do the doc?
• 55:38
  Or read a book in two weeks?
• 55:41
  Let's go ahead and put a book on the roster.
• 55:43
  Okay The Block Party was really good by Jamie Day.
• 55:47
  So do you want to do the doc next week, and then- Yeah, let's do the, we'll do the documentary next week about the Scottish people.
• 55:55
  Okay.
• 55:56
  And then- And then the following week we'll review The Block Party.
• 55:59
  We'll review The Block Party.
• 56:00
  Do we wanna read what it's about?
• 56:01
  Sure.
• 56:02
  All right, so this is The Block Party by Jamie Daye.
• 56:07
  This summer, meet your neighbors.
• 56:08
  The residents of the exclusive cul-de-sac on Alton Road are entangled in a web of secrets and scandal utterly unknown to the outside world, and even to each other.
• 56:18
  On the night of the annual summer block party, there has been a murder, but who did it and why takes readers back one year earlier as rivalries- and betrayals unfold, discovering that the real danger lies within their own block, and nothing and no one is as it seems.
• 56:34
  Okay.
• 56:35
  So yeah.
• 56:36
  Cool.
• 56:37
  That'll be good.
• 56:38
  So that'll be in two weeks.
• 56:39
  Yes.
• 56:40
  And then next week our doc is?
• 56:42
  Should I Marry A Murderer?
• 56:43
  I'm so excited for that.
• 56:43
  And I think it's only like three eps.
• 56:45
  Mm-hmm.
• 56:45
  So it's not super, not super long, but seems pretty good so far.
• 56:49
  Good.
• 56:49
  Yeah.
• 56:50
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• 56:50
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• 56:51
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