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Jeffrey Epstein Wasn't The First Monster That Got Close To The Heart Of The Monarchy (5/23/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the program. For
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  most people who live in the UK, Jimmy Savill and
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  his story was something they were very well aware of. Well,
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  for people in America that wasn't the case. There were
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  a lot of people here in America who were very,
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  very shocked after watching the new Netflix Jimmy Savil documentary.
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  It really pulled back the curtain and showed the viewer
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  how Jimmy Savill not only was one of the worst
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  child abusers of all time, but how he also gained
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  the top levels of society, just like Jeffrey Epstein. And
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  what it also shows you is when the allegations were
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  being made, a lot of people weren't even willing to
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  listen because of the icon that jim Savill had become
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  in the UK. In fact, he gased little whole entire nation.
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  And that's the core of the article that we're going
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  to discuss today. This is an article from The Guardian
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  and the author of this article is Phil Harrison, headline
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  The Awful Truth of Netflix Jimmy Savill documentary. He gaslt
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  an entire nation and that's what these people do. They'll
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  use all of their charity and all of their good works,
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  and they'll have you believing that there, you know, the
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  next kin of God himself, when in reality it's something
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  completely different, and there was nobody better at it than
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  Jim Savell. Around the age of eleven, I came close
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  to being on Jim Will Fix It. I was keen
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  on cricket and my dad wrote to the Saturday Evening
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  TV show asking if I could spend a day practicing
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  with the world beating West Indies team, who were touring
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  England at the time. The producers were apparently keen on
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  the idea, but in the end the West Indies busy
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  schedule prevented Jim from fixing it for me. And how
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  weird is that name now? And how spooky and gross
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  Jim will fix It? Ah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yay.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I had an idea who Jimmy Saville was
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  because of my work into Epstein. Right, you can't research
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  about Epstein and not stumble on Jimmy Saville at least
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  once or twice, And then you add the connections to
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  the royal family. And of course I was a bit interested,
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  but I never really dove deep. There was never a
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  gigantic deep dive. And when I watched the documentary on Netflix.
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  It made me want to look a little bit deeper
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  into the story and I found something that was just
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  absolutely terrible. I mean, what this guy did, everything from
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  abusing children with special needs to necrophilia, and then to
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  be a treasured member of Prince charles entourage to someone
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  he goes and gets advice from. This would almost certainly
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  have been a treasured childhood memory, but now it feels
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  more like a narrow escape. Watching Netflix Jimmy Saville, a
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  British horror story, it's impossible not to reflect upon the
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  meaning of savel, his place in recent British culture, and
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  the impact benign benign then suddenly corrosively toxic that he
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  had been on so many lives and when you just
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  look at him, he's just straight creepy.
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  Speaker 2: Right. We've talked about this before.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly the kind of guy that I look at and
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  I would comment to my girlfriend or whoever I'm with,
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  you know, mainly in jest, but this guy looks like
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  he should be on some kind of list. But the
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  reality is, Jimmy Savill certainly look like he should be
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  on some kind of list. That goofy ass haircut, the
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  way he talked, oh my cases up next Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: He always used that.
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  Speaker 1: Like insinuating that eventually it was going to be coming
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  very brazen about his behavior and throwing it in the
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  face of the public. Rowan Deacon's documentary has clearly been
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  made for a worldwide audience, but the backstory is so
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  detailed that it's surprisingly illuminating even if you were already
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  broadly familiar with these events. And I've heard that from
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  a lot of people listeners over in the UK who
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  were pretty shocked at how detailed the story was, because
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  usually when we get one of these documentaries like the
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  one on Epstein, it's just a scratch of the surface, right,
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  they don't go much further than that. But here they
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  did offer a little bit more of an intimate look
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  on the effect that Jimmy Savill himself had on the
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  overall society. This points to an essential true truth about
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  Britain's collective relationship with Savele. Savile groomed in gas lit
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  not just a victims, but an entire culture, and he
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  did this incrementally over an incredibly long period. That's how
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  it works, right, It's not a they're not ham handed
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  about it. It happens in little spurts. As a result,
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  while it was happening, very few people processed how deeply
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  abnormal it was. So what transpired after his death in
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  twenty eleven was for many like being shaken rudely awake
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  after a long disturbing dream. Look, the whole entire republic
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  of the UK thought that, you know, Jim will fix it, right.
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  Jim's this great guy. He can never do anything like this.
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  Look at all the good he does for kids, Look
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  what he does for hospitals. The reality is, folks, all
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  of that was done because he wanted to wrap himself
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  in it, and he wanted to say, hey, look I
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  do good, so it should cancel out the bad that
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  I do. But what he did, the evil that he
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  was involved in, there is nothing you could ever do
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  to get rid of that dark stain on your soul.
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  In hospitals, in remand homes, in his various residences, and
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  god knows where else. Jimmy Saville had been sexually abusing
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  children for decades on an almost industrial scale. Of course,
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  he had deep down, so many people knew this. The
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  astonishingly brave testimony of Samantha Brown, one of Savile's survivors,
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  in a British horror story is an unbearably vivid evocation
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  of the mir of the misery he caused. And all
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  you have to do is listen to these people, these
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  kids that he abused, you know, the girl talking about
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  at church, and it was just it's so heartbreaking and
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  really it just makes me and madder each time I
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  hear a story like this. There are so many sick,
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  fucking people out there that it's hard to quantify. For
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  several decades, Jimmy Saville was everywhere. He DJ'ed on the
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  nation's favorite radio station, BBC Radio One. He presented Top
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  of the Pops, the virtual musical water cooler, around which
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  about a third of the country gathered every Thursday evening.
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  He ran the London Marathon for charity. He was on
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  stage at concerts introducing the Beatles or the Stones.
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  Speaker 2: You would see him.
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  Speaker 1: Glad handing Prince Charles or Margaret Thatcher. And of course
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  he made children's dreams come true every Saturday treat time.
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  Oh yeah, dreams come true?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right.
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  Speaker 1: Think about how evil and how monstrous you have to
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  be to be up to what Jimmy Saville was up to.
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  You want to talk about a sick and twisted individual
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  that deserve to get thrown into a fucking volcano. Oh boy,
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  you're looking at it here. This obviously was part of
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  the plan. Savell was covering all bases, and the sad
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  thing is, as the film reminds us, jim Will Fix It.
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  Where children's dreams were helped to come true on national
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  television was a brilliant idea for a TV show. Honestly,
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  it is a great idea for a show. You get
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  one of these famous people, a celebrity, rich guy comes
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  out and helps the most vulnerable in society, helps the poor,
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  helps kids that may never ever get to attain those
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  dreams that would make you a hero, that would make
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  you a bad dude, right, the kind of person that
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  should be.
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  Speaker 2: Tossed with accolades.
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  Speaker 1: And Jimmy Saville could have been that guy, but instead
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  he chose to be something completely different. He chose to
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  be a fucking monster. There's a genuinely charming clip an
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  episode of the documentary where a schoolboy takes his favorite
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  teacher out for an afternoon tea at a fancy restaurant.
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  Another goes on the set of Star Trek and eyes
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  wide with wonder meets Captain Kirk. These moments were, it
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  turns out, simply the bulwarks of child abuse. It's now
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  impossible to separate them from what Savile did. When I
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  was watching it, knowing the story right, knowing the backstory,
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  it was so uncomfortable. Every single time I seen him
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  associating with these kids or having these kids in studio,
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  it really just it turned my stomach. In the UK's
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  pre internet days, where there were only three TV channels,
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  the UK's national broadcaster did a lot of the heavy
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  lifting on behalf of the inner life of the nation.
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  As per the injunction of its founder, Lord Wreath, the
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  BBC was supposed to inform, educate and entertain. After all,
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  there were fewer options back then. Children of the seven
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  eighties are familiar with the cultural scarcity, but they're familiar
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  with the cultural collectivity too. The experience is that the
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  BBC helped the UK to share at that time. Not
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  for nothing was it nicknamed anti and it was the
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  same here in America. Growing up in the seventies, eighties,
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  even early nineties, you didn't really have all of the
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  options nowhere near the options that kids have these days,
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  or anyone certainly no Internet. I know, as a kid,
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  I was forced to entertain myself in some wild ass
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  ways that kids these days would never even think about.
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  I was literally outside from the time I woke up.
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  After I would eat my breakfast and you know, maybe
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  watch some cartoons or something, but I would be outside
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  with my friends literally all day. We'd be riding our bikes,
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  going to the arcade, hanging out, you know, playing.
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  Speaker 2: Football, whatever it was.
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  Speaker 1: So we really didn't have the options of sitting inside
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  all day and keeping ourselves entertained on the Internet or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Now, obviously we had.
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  Speaker 1: Nintendo and Sega Genesis and shit like that, but the
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  graphics were nowhere near what they are today. So I
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  had way much, way more fun I mean outside playing
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  with my friends and just you know, exploring and stuff.
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  But it's harder to think of the BBC in those
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  terms now, as the film emphasizes the burying of Marion
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  Jones and Liz McKean's initial Savile expose is one of
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  the most shameful episodes in the BBC's history. But the
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  horror finally is more abstract, more philosophical in nature. Eventually,
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  it always circles back to matters of power, and trust,
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  the trust children place in adults, the trust the BBC
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  placed in Savile, and the trust in power conferment upon
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  the BBC. And that's what it comes down to. The
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  trust is always broken, isn't it. Whether it be the
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  powers that be or the people that they employ, it's
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  always the case. In the film's plentiful archive footage, Saville
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  is constantly surrounded by young women and children. A few
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  were interviewed as adults, and when they watch clips of themselves,
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  it's possible to sense their confusion. They're momentarily thrilled to
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  see their younger selves on TV. They smile, then they
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  remember Savill's insistent and corrosive is constant, blatant and revolting.
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  Every touch and trigger warning there are many touches in
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  this documentary now feels like a violation. He's a huge star,
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  and he's doing this because he can. He reduces everyone
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  in his orbit to the status of a supplicant, and
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  that's what they all do. It was the same psyche
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  for Jeffrey Epstein. Everyone around him was a subject. Everyone
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  around him had to bow down to the brilliance and
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  power of Jeffo, when the reality is he was nothing
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  more than a weak gass chump, just like Jimmy Savile.
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  And really everyone was every kid either watching or participating
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  in Savile's Saturday evening light entertainment. Trojan Horse was hopelessly
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  under his spell. In the context of everything we know now,
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  the power imbalance is grotesque beyond words, and so are
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  the implications of it. To watch this documentary is to
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  be reminded that Jimmy Savill made many of Britain's childhood memories.
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  Then he made a whole country desperately want to forget them.
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  Speaker 2: And when they talk about here how the BBC covered.
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  Speaker 1: Up for him. It is something that we have seen
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  with the legacy media how many times. And then you
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  wonder why I go so hard on them. You would
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  think that after all of these incidences throughout history, throughout
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  recent history, they would learn their lesson, But they never
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  do do They They continue to cover for scumbags. They
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  continue to cover for the Savels of the world, the
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  Epstein's of the world, and then they wonder why nobody
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  trusts them. Well, folks, the whole entire nation of England,
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  the whole UK was under the spell of Jimmy Savel.
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  There is no doubt about that, and what was lurking
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  below the surface was not a man named Jim who
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  will fix it, but a monster named Jim who destroyed it.
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  If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
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  at Bobby Kapouchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bo Bby
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  c ap u Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can
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  also find me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore c ap Ucci.
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  The link that we discussed can be found in the
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  description chin Box