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- 0:20Speaker 1: Good evening, everybody. Welcome to another edition of the Sports Exchange.
- 0:23Speaker 1: My name is Scott Morgan, our owner of City of Madden.
- 0:24Speaker 1: I'm excited to have you with us tonight. We have
- 0:26Speaker 1: Cliff Neal in the house. We've got Jason Prok in
- 0:29Speaker 1: the house. We have Lucas Nelson. And I feel like
- 0:33Speaker 1: it's Lucas Nelson-Martin. And we have candy ambling in the
- 0:36Speaker 1: house as well. They show Rob Morosco will join us later,
- 0:40Speaker 1: probably in the second hour. Now let's get going. Lots
- 0:43Speaker 1: to talk about. Well, by now, we all know by
- 0:46Speaker 1: now that Dusty May is the head coach of the
- 0:48Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks, right? So the question is, why did Dusty
- 0:52Speaker 1: leave the University of Michigan in the first place? Well,
- 0:58Speaker 1: a close source of Dusty May said, that's a college
- 1:01Speaker 1: environment that's pushing him a little way towards this decision.
- 1:04Speaker 1: We all know about the college environment, right, Cliff? We
- 1:07Speaker 1: talk about NIL, transfer portal, and not the ability to
- 1:13Speaker 1: coach as much as you want. But what are your
- 1:15Speaker 1: thoughts about Dustin May and why he decided to go
- 1:17Speaker 1: to the Dallas Mavericks?
- 1:19Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's since they changed everything with the
- 1:23Speaker 2: NIL and all the money now going around. It's like
- 1:27Speaker 2: they're going to just keep changing all the time. The
- 1:31Speaker 2: guy's on your team for a year. Oh, I get
- 1:33Speaker 2: a better deal at another school. Okay. He's good. Cause yeah, apparently,
- 1:37Speaker 2: you know, they're not going there for the whatever major
- 1:40Speaker 2: it is.
- 1:41Speaker 1: They're there.
- 1:41Speaker 2: They're they're using that to, to get their path to a,
- 1:46Speaker 2: to an NBA career and making some money. So I'm
- 1:49Speaker 2: actually pretty good money. I wish I could get some
- 1:52Speaker 2: of the money that these guys get for a year
- 1:54Speaker 2: of playing college basketball. And you know, so it's a, Yeah,
- 2:00Speaker 2: so I can't really blame him. They're going to get paid,
- 2:04Speaker 2: and he doesn't have to deal with a changing roster
- 2:08Speaker 2: every year. Because, yeah, you're doing all this recording. You're
- 2:13Speaker 2: trying to get these guys, oh, yeah, I'm here for
- 2:15Speaker 2: a year, and then there's someone else. At least when
- 2:17Speaker 2: you have with the NBA, it's all about the money anyway.
- 2:20Speaker 2: They're locked into contracts. for more than like a year,
- 2:27Speaker 2: usually a couple of guys here and there, but a
- 2:29Speaker 2: good majority there for, for a few years. So, and
- 2:33Speaker 2: he's probably done enough at that level, at least in
- 2:36Speaker 2: his mind that, you know, it's a, might as well
- 2:39Speaker 2: just go to the NBA and get more consistency, more
- 2:43Speaker 2: secure environment, at least who he knows is who he,
- 2:47Speaker 2: that he knows who's going to be on his team.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Cause it could be from one year to the next.
- 2:51Speaker 2: You don't know who's on your team.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Well, you know what, Cliff, you set a mouthful. And
- 2:55Speaker 1: you know what? Everything you said was dead accurate. Okay,
- 2:59Speaker 1: this is an avid Costello people. Who's on first? What's
- 3:03Speaker 1: on second? And all that business. What we're talking about,
- 3:06Speaker 1: and this is very real, Cliff. And I'm glad you
- 3:09Speaker 1: brought it up in the manner that you did. Who
- 3:11Speaker 1: is going to be on my team? So I have
- 3:13Speaker 1: to work harder to buy the groceries, okay? Bill Parcells
- 3:18Speaker 1: was always known for buying the groceries. and then obviously shopping,
- 3:22Speaker 1: buying the groceries, and then being able to coach them.
- 3:24Speaker 1: So that is true, who is on the team, and
- 3:27Speaker 1: was young enough to do it. Once you win the
- 3:29Speaker 1: NCAA championship, then you've done everything that you can do.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Maybe in a future show, we'll talk about other guys
- 3:36Speaker 1: that have gone on to the NBA that haven't been successful,
- 3:39Speaker 1: but that's not the point tonight. Dusty May is it. Again,
- 3:41Speaker 1: we're talking Michigan basketball, and he did it actually in
- 3:47Speaker 1: two years because think about the fact that He did
- 3:50Speaker 1: a whale of a job with Florida Atlantic University as
- 3:54Speaker 1: well and took them to the Final Four. Okay. Great job, Cliff.
- 3:58Speaker 3: All right.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Jason?
- 4:00Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just going to say, here's the thing.
- 4:04Speaker 4: He took Michigan from, you know, from worse to first.
- 4:10Speaker 4: But two years ago, you know, with the situation with
- 4:13Speaker 4: Juwan Howard, that didn't work out. And he went from...
- 4:18Speaker 4: Bring them to the NCAA tournament. I think it was
- 4:21Speaker 4: the second round they got knocked out. And then this year,
- 4:25Speaker 4: he just used the NIL like a pro. He got
- 4:29Speaker 4: Mara in. He got Lindenborg. And just used that transfer
- 4:34Speaker 4: portal to his advantage. And a lot of teams are
- 4:38Speaker 4: going to do that and probably model after what Dusty did. And,
- 4:42Speaker 4: you know, I think like what Cliff was saying, After
- 4:47Speaker 4: two years, he's already won an NCAA title. That's hard
- 4:51Speaker 4: enough to do. I think it's, in my opinion, one
- 4:54Speaker 4: of the hardest championships to win ever. And he went
- 4:59Speaker 4: in there and they dominated the last game. It came
- 5:03Speaker 4: down to a tough game. But, you know, Dusty's going
- 5:06Speaker 4: to a team where Cooper Flagg was a number one pick.
- 5:10Speaker 4: You know, Dallas is an attractive city for sports teams.
- 5:17Speaker 4: and just the fact that he can coach a player
- 5:20Speaker 4: like that at 19. He has all the talent in
- 5:23Speaker 4: the world, and it's a challenge that, hey, if he
- 5:27Speaker 4: gets fired after his contract, he still gets paid. Look
- 5:30Speaker 4: what happened to John Beeline. His first year with Cleveland,
- 5:34Speaker 4: he didn't fare so well. They fired him, and then
- 5:38Speaker 4: he got paid anyway for his five-year deal. So it's
- 5:41Speaker 4: a win-win situation for Dusty.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Great point, Jason. Go ahead, Lucas.
- 5:47Speaker 5: Yeah, I heard Dusty talk on a Michigan podcast a
- 5:50Speaker 5: while ago, basically telling the show that the deal was
- 5:59Speaker 5: too good to not say no. He had so much
- 6:04Speaker 5: good access at Michigan. He had so many good connections there,
- 6:09Speaker 5: but it was tough.
- 6:10Speaker 6: It was the time.
- 6:11Speaker 5: It hurt his heart because he had grown so fond
- 6:14Speaker 5: of these players that he recruited through NIL, through just
- 6:20Speaker 5: the connections that he has. And he really, really took
- 6:24Speaker 5: advantage of that and obviously won a national title with them.
- 6:28Speaker 5: And now that the fact that he's going to the NBA,
- 6:32Speaker 5: he's happy, of course, but And Michigan fans are happy
- 6:36Speaker 5: as well because it's the best source for him. It
- 6:41Speaker 5: really is. It's the best of both worlds. And Michigan,
- 6:47Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, they got to find another coach, but
- 6:49Speaker 5: they're so happy for the guy. I mean, they got
- 6:53Speaker 5: a national title. And if he would have done it,
- 6:55Speaker 5: if they would have offered it another time or something
- 7:00Speaker 5: lower amount from the Dallas Mavericks, He definitely would have
- 7:03Speaker 5: stayed at Michigan, but it was too good to be declined. Like,
- 7:09Speaker 5: you had to accept it. Like, anyone in their right
- 7:12Speaker 5: mind would accept it. And Michigan Wolverine fans would agree.
- 7:17Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, man, if you're going to make that
- 7:20Speaker 5: and take.
- 7:23Speaker 6: That agreement, go for it. I mean, you deserve it.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. He kept his word. He did
- 7:29Speaker 1: not take another college job.
- 7:30Speaker 3: That's fine.
- 7:31Speaker 1: He would not take another college job.
- 7:34Speaker 3: No problem.
- 7:35Speaker 1: Okay. But the main thing here is this, okay? He
- 7:39Speaker 1: only went to the NBA. Once you've won the national championship,
- 7:45Speaker 1: there's only one place to go and duplicate it, and
- 7:48Speaker 1: that's it. All right, Candy, your final word on Dusty.
- 7:51Speaker 3: So it was all about timing. Honestly... When Dallas Mavericks
- 7:57Speaker 3: general manager Mike Schmidt called, he called to pick Dusty
- 8:02Speaker 3: May's brain about Michigan's three NBA draft prospects on the
- 8:07Speaker 3: morning of May 24th. He asked one question that got
- 8:11Speaker 3: the ball rolling toward May leaving. After he had talked
- 8:16Speaker 3: about the three, he goes, would you have any interest
- 8:19Speaker 3: in this job? Schmidt's timing was perfect. May told them
- 8:24Speaker 3: May had just returned home from the Big Ten's spring
- 8:27Speaker 3: meetings where the league's coaches met to discuss, among other things,
- 8:31Speaker 3: the state of the game. May said, I was so
- 8:34Speaker 3: excited for Big Ten meetings. We're going to try and
- 8:36Speaker 3: find some solutions. I go there and I was just like,
- 8:40Speaker 3: oh my God, nothing's getting fixed ever. May said the
- 8:47Speaker 3: Big Ten coaches were still complaining about the transfer portal
- 8:50Speaker 3: and changes to the game that he saw that as
- 8:52Speaker 3: irreversible he says we've got to stop talking about the
- 8:56Speaker 3: stuff that we cannot change he's always had a desire
- 9:01Speaker 3: to coach in the nba so this was all about
- 9:05Speaker 3: perfect timing and as you guys had said he had
- 9:07Speaker 3: already won the championship at michigan you've already at the
- 9:11Speaker 3: top um and to mold cooper flag and to not
- 9:16Speaker 3: have to re-recruit every single year like you have to
- 9:20Speaker 3: do in college now He just couldn't pass it up.
- 9:23Speaker 1: Okay. Great stuff. Validates everything you said. And I'll always
- 9:28Speaker 1: pull for Dusty. I worked with Dusty at FAU, and
- 9:31Speaker 1: he's one of the nicest guys. He was really great.
- 9:33Speaker 1: When I had my one-on-one interviews and group sessions and
- 9:37Speaker 1: took a picture of him, don't want to tap it.
- 9:38Speaker 1: It's there. But the memories are definitely there for sure. Okay. Well,
- 9:41Speaker 1: the Chicago Cubs did make the playoff, and they did
- 9:44Speaker 1: that despite a losing streak. As manager, actually– Craig Council
- 9:52Speaker 1: had lost nine games in a row, but Craig Council
- 9:56Speaker 1: did go ahead and overcome that. What are your thoughts
- 9:58Speaker 1: about Council and the... Chicago Cubs, Cliff?
- 10:02Speaker 2: Well, it's a testament to Craig Council and his ability
- 10:06Speaker 2: as a manager. When the quote-unquote chips are down, I
- 10:11Speaker 2: know I sound like a cliche, but when the chips
- 10:14Speaker 2: are down and things aren't looking so good, got to
- 10:16Speaker 2: find a way to like turn things around. And he did.
- 10:19Speaker 2: And the Cubs are a good team up and down
- 10:22Speaker 2: the last few years. So I'm not really that surprised
- 10:25Speaker 2: you kind of combination of, of, of the fact that
- 10:28Speaker 2: they're a pretty decent team and the fact that he's
- 10:31Speaker 2: a darn good manager. I'm not surprised at all that
- 10:34Speaker 2: he was able to turn that around. They got a
- 10:36Speaker 2: couple other guys to, to augment the team. They were
- 10:40Speaker 2: able to they were able to make a, make a run,
- 10:44Speaker 2: and now they're in the playoffs, and they're going to
- 10:49Speaker 2: be given at least a little bit of a competition there.
- 10:52Speaker 2: We'll see.
- 10:53Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 10:53Speaker 2: They just started, so.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jason.
- 10:58Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Craig Council is one of the most respected,
- 11:02Speaker 4: one of the top 15 managers in baseball. I mean,
- 11:07Speaker 4: he got the Cubs to where they are now, and
- 11:11Speaker 4: I agree with Cliff. still early in the playoffs. It's
- 11:17Speaker 4: going to be exciting. And, you know, what he did
- 11:21Speaker 4: to get them to where they're at today is, you know,
- 11:24Speaker 4: a testament to who Council is. As a player, he
- 11:28Speaker 4: was a gritty player. I remember him when he was
- 11:31Speaker 4: with the Marlins. I think he was on that 90-17. So,
- 11:37Speaker 4: you know, I'd like to see the Cubs do well.
- 11:41Speaker 4: But we'll see.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Well, they have a tough task with the San Diego Padres.
- 11:47Speaker 1: We'll have a good idea by the end of the night.
- 11:49Speaker 1: But Greg Thompson's done a pretty good job. But the
- 11:51Speaker 1: only problem is he left the team and is doing
- 11:54Speaker 1: even better under Pat Murphy. And if Candy decides he
- 11:57Speaker 1: wants to take them at the end, she can definitely
- 11:59Speaker 1: do it. But Pat Murphy's done a job. And you
- 12:02Speaker 1: know what? They just like playing for this guy, but
- 12:05Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. But Thompson's done a pretty
- 12:07Speaker 1: good job out in Chicago for sure. Go ahead, Lucas.
- 12:12Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, as a player, he had the craziest
- 12:14Speaker 5: batting stance in all of America, probably. But, yeah, as
- 12:17Speaker 5: a manager, that guy is bringing the Cubs to greatness again.
- 12:21Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, they had the, what, addict to the
- 12:25Speaker 5: basement feeling this season after being the best team and
- 12:27Speaker 5: then falling down, losing nine games, mostly because they have
- 12:33Speaker 5: reliever issues and just pitching issues and just waiting for
- 12:36Speaker 5: them to just get back healthy.
- 12:38Speaker 6: And, yeah, now they're– This is it.
- 12:41Speaker 5: This is where Pete Carl Armstrong is time to shine
- 12:44Speaker 5: is right now. I mean, Michael Bush is, I don't
- 12:47Speaker 5: know if he's going to make anything happen, but Craig
- 12:50Speaker 5: Council is definitely going to make them, make those players
- 12:53Speaker 5: the best for their potential.
- 12:55Speaker 6: And yeah, I mean, he's definitely creating a name for himself.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Kenny.
- 13:02Speaker 3: Local kid from Milwaukee, Craig Council. As we know and
- 13:07Speaker 3: affectionately know, loved for so long. And now we do not,
- 13:12Speaker 3: as much as we like him, we do not like
- 13:16Speaker 3: the team he represents, obviously, but I will say this.
- 13:21Speaker 3: So yes, they had a nine game losing streak, but
- 13:25Speaker 3: that was after a 10 game winning streak to start
- 13:27Speaker 3: the season. And he had two separate 10 game winning
- 13:31Speaker 3: streaks this season. They joined the 2017 Los Angeles Dodgers
- 13:36Speaker 3: is the only expansionary era team teams to record multiple
- 13:40Speaker 3: 10 game winning streaks and a nine game skid in
- 13:43Speaker 3: the same season. He tried everything to shake up the
- 13:48Speaker 3: batting order, bench struggling veterans. And then he just said
- 13:53Speaker 3: to his team, we just need to execute better on
- 13:55Speaker 3: our fundamentals rather than panic over the course of a
- 13:58Speaker 3: long season. And look where they're at now. Now they're
- 14:02Speaker 3: in the playoffs. They're trying to get past the wild
- 14:05Speaker 3: card round. Obviously the, They lost yesterday, so they start
- 14:11Speaker 3: at 10 o'clock Eastern time, so they have not started
- 14:14Speaker 3: today's game yet. But Craig Council, he's a really good coach.
- 14:19Speaker 3: Would I have thought he was one of the best coaches?
- 14:22Speaker 3: I probably would have said that years ago. Now that
- 14:25Speaker 3: I have Pat Murphy, I wouldn't trade Pat Murphy for
- 14:29Speaker 3: our team. And that's what I'm going to say is
- 14:32Speaker 3: managers are good for the team. They can be good
- 14:35Speaker 3: for the team. And as long as they connect with
- 14:39Speaker 3: their players and get the most out of their players
- 14:42Speaker 3: and recognize their players' talents and get those talents out
- 14:46Speaker 3: of them, that makes a good manager. And so Craig
- 14:50Speaker 3: does that. I also think Pat Murphy does that. Obviously,
- 14:55Speaker 3: maybe we'll talk about that later.
- 14:56Speaker 1: All right. Well, yellow parting shot. You can definitely talk
- 15:00Speaker 1: about it if you want to. All right. I don't
- 15:01Speaker 1: know how you guys feel about storming the field, but
- 15:04Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. If you do, it's going to
- 15:07Speaker 1: cost you $ 500, 000, and the SEC fined Mississippi State for
- 15:10Speaker 1: storming onto the field in a game against Arizona State. Cliff,
- 15:14Speaker 1: some thoughts about Mississippi State having to pay $ 500, 000 for
- 15:18Speaker 1: a game they played against Arizona State. The SEC didn't
- 15:22Speaker 1: like it. Your thoughts?
- 15:26Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, what are you going to really do?
- 15:30Speaker 2: I mean, when you really come down to it, I mean,
- 15:33Speaker 2: you can't– If the crowd wants to storm the field,
- 15:42Speaker 2: not much they can really do about it. It's like,
- 15:46Speaker 2: all right, yeah, you can say, oh, well, security. But really,
- 15:49Speaker 2: you can't have that much security if a bunch of
- 15:52Speaker 2: people are just going to storm the field and they're
- 15:55Speaker 2: getting fined for it. Yeah, I get it. It's dangerous.
- 16:00Speaker 2: Lots of people can get hurt and something like that.
- 16:03Speaker 2: And I get it. I get why they don't want it. And, and,
- 16:07Speaker 2: but it's, it's like $ 500, 000 for that. I think it's
- 16:11Speaker 2: a little heavy handed. And it's, you know, especially for
- 16:15Speaker 2: a sense that you're dealing with that and it's college.
- 16:18Speaker 2: It's like, you're acting like you've never seen a college
- 16:23Speaker 2: game where they storm the field after a big win or,
- 16:25Speaker 2: you know, it's like it's happened before. It's, I mean, it's,
- 16:30Speaker 2: It doesn't really bother me that they did it.
- 16:32Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 16:34Speaker 2: I think maybe the SEC takes itself a little too
- 16:37Speaker 2: seriously there. It's against Arizona State. Are they in the
- 16:41Speaker 2: SEC now? I can't keep track. Did they go in there? Okay,
- 16:45Speaker 2: they're Big 12. What's the problem? I don't get it.
- 16:51Speaker 2: I just don't understand.
- 16:52Speaker 1: Okay.
- 16:56Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I was reading this on FTC, on
- 16:59Speaker 4: their website. So with the $ 500, 000 penalty which they imposed, FTC,
- 17:07Speaker 4: for doing that, they can actually waive that with a.
- 17:15Speaker 4: They can waive that if they can probably go back
- 17:19Speaker 4: on video and see, you know, hey, there's a lot
- 17:21Speaker 4: of people that everybody's gone from the opposing team. But
- 17:26Speaker 4: like Cliff said, that's hard to... How can you, like,
- 17:29Speaker 4: manage that? You can't stop, you know, a few thousand
- 17:33Speaker 4: people from one section. There's just not enough security to
- 17:36Speaker 4: get out there, you know, so.
- 17:39Speaker 4: I don't know, fining them a $ 500, 000. I mean, you
- 17:44Speaker 4: see this, I mean, even years ago, Cal Stanford, the
- 17:47Speaker 4: band is on the field, you know, like, I mean, I,
- 17:51Speaker 4: I don't know. It's, this is the, just how can
- 17:56Speaker 4: you really stop it? You know, like, there's just no way.
- 18:00Speaker 4: And the nature of the game, guys, you know, 21-19,
- 18:03Speaker 4: they're about to kick a field goal. They block it.
- 18:07Speaker 4: They kick it, you know, and they make it. And
- 18:09Speaker 4: then everybody storms the field, right? So how– there's no
- 18:14Speaker 4: way to get around it. I'm not really for it. But,
- 18:19Speaker 4: I mean, there's not really much you can do. And
- 18:22Speaker 4: if the team wants to impose it and try to
- 18:25Speaker 4: waive that, So they don't have to pay, I mean,
- 18:31Speaker 4: all the power to them if they can do it.
- 18:33Speaker 1: But I don't know.
- 18:35Speaker 4: It's kind of hard to do. Kind of hard to
- 18:38Speaker 4: keep them off the field.
- 18:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I like your Cal Stanford analogy. I don't know
- 18:42Speaker 1: what they were doing about it back then, but I
- 18:43Speaker 1: remember that's a big rivalry there. And the play is
- 18:46Speaker 1: making history for all of them on Blue Board. But
- 18:49Speaker 1: here's the thing I'll say about that. I'm glad that
- 18:52Speaker 1: Cal and Stanford are in the ACC so they can
- 18:55Speaker 1: at least keep that rivalry going. And then you have
- 18:57Speaker 1: USC and UCLA in the Big Ten, harder to imagine that,
- 19:00Speaker 1: but they're still together as well. So you have Southern
- 19:03Speaker 1: California basically in the Big Ten, and you have Northern
- 19:07Speaker 1: California in the ACC, and Washington and Oregon, well, we
- 19:12Speaker 1: know they're in the Big Ten as well. But at
- 19:14Speaker 1: least Cal and Stanford stay together in the ACC. I'll
- 19:17Speaker 1: turn it over to Lucas.
- 19:19Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you're storming the field after a win
- 19:23Speaker 5: against Arizona State, and you're undefeated?
- 19:26Speaker 1: Come on.
- 19:28Speaker 5: I mean, it's kind of like it's not as bad
- 19:31Speaker 5: as Michigan storming the field against their win against Western Michigan.
- 19:36Speaker 5: But it's it's pretty close to comparatively. But I mean,
- 19:42Speaker 5: how do you stop that? I mean, Clemson's been doing
- 19:45Speaker 5: that for the past couple of years where they make
- 19:48Speaker 5: a PA announcement saying, please do not storm the field.
- 19:52Speaker 5: Wait until all the coaches, wait until the visiting team
- 19:56Speaker 5: has cleared the field or else we will get significantly fined. So,
- 20:02Speaker 5: I mean, before that, I mean, it was a rush
- 20:05Speaker 5: to the paw every single home game win. Well, actually,
- 20:09Speaker 5: home game, period. It was just a rush to the
- 20:13Speaker 5: pot every single game, and it was a free-for-all. So
- 20:18Speaker 5: you see the coach's handshake, and you see just some
- 20:21Speaker 5: random fan just, like, trying to get in Dabo's face. Like,
- 20:24Speaker 5: that happened every single year. So in order to implement that,
- 20:30Speaker 5: it's been pretty well implemented with the PA announcement and
- 20:33Speaker 5: just security lined up, like, very aggressively and have these
- 20:38Speaker 5: tightropes saying, okay, get out, get out, get out. And
- 20:42Speaker 5: they haven't had anyone storm out until the visiting team
- 20:48Speaker 5: has cleared. It's been really surprisingly very organized.
- 20:53Speaker 2: But that's Clemson, though. That's Clemson, though, where that happened
- 20:57Speaker 2: all the time. How often does this happen there? That's
- 21:00Speaker 2: the whole thing. If that's something that happens all the
- 21:03Speaker 2: time there, you would see why Clemson would do it.
- 21:06Speaker 2: So they felt the need to do it. This is
- 21:08Speaker 2: something that happens all the time there. That's the whole thing.
- 21:11Speaker 2: If it's not something that happens all the time there
- 21:12Speaker 2: and it happens this one time, you know, that's the question.
- 21:16Speaker 2: If it's a problem, then sure, okay. But how often
- 21:20Speaker 2: does that happen there at that location?
- 21:24Speaker 6: Right. That's the thing.
- 21:26Speaker 7: And then, I mean, you can try to pick their
- 21:28Speaker 7: brain about, hey, what's– how did y'all kind of organize
- 21:34Speaker 7: people to stay off the field during the, these past
- 21:37Speaker 7: two years, because it's, it's all of a sudden, um,
- 21:40Speaker 7: a thing now that you can't storm the field right after.
- 21:43Speaker 6: And now, well, I mean, it's, it's a thing other
- 21:45Speaker 6: than Clemson.
- 21:46Speaker 5: I mean, you cannot like, absolutely, but to enforce it,
- 21:52Speaker 5: it's been a really, really organized and just, um, they've
- 21:58Speaker 5: understood the rules now, like the people, um, The crowd
- 22:02Speaker 5: is understood. OK, we're not storming the field. We have
- 22:04Speaker 5: to wait until the visiting team is off.
- 22:07Speaker 6: Got it. OK.
- 22:08Speaker 5: But it's maybe other schools could replicate that and say, OK,
- 22:14Speaker 5: this is what we're going to do.
- 22:15Speaker 6: And these are the security protocols that we can take.
- 22:18Speaker 6: I don't know. That's just my take.
- 22:20Speaker 2: Well, they could, but I mean, do they all usually
- 22:23Speaker 2: need to, is it a, is it, is it, is
- 22:26Speaker 2: it an epidemic kind of thing that happens at all
- 22:28Speaker 2: these school? That's, that's the point. That's really the point.
- 22:31Speaker 2: I'm like, it happened to Clemson all the time.
- 22:34Speaker 6: Okay.
- 22:34Speaker 2: I can see that if they keep doing it, like
- 22:37Speaker 2: these other places, it's like, yeah, it happened this one time.
- 22:40Speaker 1: Last time it.
- 22:42Speaker 2: Happened, like it was seven years ago or something. I'm like,
- 22:45Speaker 2: Do you really need a policy for it then?
- 22:49Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not going to get them to stop. I mean,
- 22:51Speaker 4: there's always going to be people that are going to
- 22:52Speaker 4: run out of field no matter what. The policy is
- 22:55Speaker 4: not to actually fulfill it for every single school.
- 23:02Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 23:03Speaker 5: Nope.
- 23:07Speaker 6: Nope.
- 23:09Speaker 2: We lost your voice. We're not hearing you, Scott.
- 23:11Speaker 3: Scott, we can't hear you.
- 23:13Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
- 23:15Speaker 3: For some reason, we can't hear you. I don't know
- 23:20Speaker 3: because I'm sorry. I apologize. I missed a little bit.
- 23:23Speaker 3: But I'm going to say that do you guys realize
- 23:26Speaker 3: that they carried the goalpost with them out of the stadium?
- 23:31Speaker 1: Is that better?
- 23:33Speaker 3: That is better, yes. And then the other thing is
- 23:36Speaker 3: they were already on the field before Arizona State players
- 23:40Speaker 3: and coaches could even leave. So I think that's part
- 23:43Speaker 3: of why they're doing that. I can tell you that
- 23:46Speaker 3: the SEC, it's a flat $ 500, 000 fine. The ACC starts
- 23:52Speaker 3: at $ 50, 000 for the first offense, $ 100, 000 for the second offense,
- 23:58Speaker 3: and $ 200, 000 for every subsequent violation. And the Big 12,
- 24:03Speaker 3: the standard fine is $ 50, 000.
- 24:05Speaker 1: Well, what do you expect? The SEC is going to
- 24:09Speaker 1: enforce it, and they're not messing around with that.
- 24:12Speaker 8: $ 500, 000.
- 24:13Speaker 1: So, I mean, Katie, let's face the reality. It is dangerous,
- 24:16Speaker 1: and what Mississippi State and Arizona State did was dangerous.
- 24:22Speaker 5: Yeah, SEC is really kind of taking over. It's like, okay,
- 24:27Speaker 5: you better listen to us or else. Because we're the
- 24:32Speaker 5: dominant conference.
- 24:33Speaker 6: I mean, technically they are, but it's with that kind
- 24:36Speaker 6: of fine, the first fine. Exactly.
- 24:39Speaker 2: What do they do with that money?
- 24:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:42Speaker 2: I don't know what they do with the money. I'm
- 24:44Speaker 2: interested when they fine people. When they do have these fines,
- 24:46Speaker 2: where does that money go?
- 24:48Speaker 6: I would love to know that.
- 24:51Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the hockey on the frozen pond,
- 24:58Speaker 1: as Mike Tirico would point it. Obviously, the Edmonton Oilers
- 25:02Speaker 1: hired Mike Babcock, but get this. Mike Babcock actually did
- 25:08Speaker 1: a healthy scratch on Mike Modano, And Saddam and Miles
- 25:14Speaker 1: saying he ended up with 1,499 games played and not 1,500.
- 25:19Speaker 1: So this is a two-parter, okay? So pay attention. I'll
- 25:23Speaker 1: go around the horn. First of all, Cliff, what are
- 25:25Speaker 1: your thoughts about Edmonton hiring Mike Babcock?
- 25:29Speaker 2: I'm not really surprised. They dropped Knobloch, Chris Knobloch, and,
- 25:33Speaker 2: you know, he was having all sorts of issues. And, hey, well,
- 25:36Speaker 2: you know what? He's got– he's going to– he's going
- 25:39Speaker 2: to get them with discipline and he's got that, he's
- 25:42Speaker 2: got that reputation, even though he has some other bad
- 25:48Speaker 2: things with his reputation, he's had success everywhere.
- 25:51Speaker 1: He's gone.
- 25:51Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 25:52Speaker 2: He's won the cup, but where'd he win the cup?
- 25:54Speaker 2: He won the cup with Detroit and they were pretty
- 25:58Speaker 2: well set with the, with those guys on that team.
- 26:02Speaker 2: I would like to have those guys on that team too. So, Yeah,
- 26:05Speaker 2: I mean, they brought him in to, you know, spark
- 26:09Speaker 2: a fire under their butts. But, hey, oh, did you
- 26:12Speaker 2: happen to see? Oh, they lost last night, 7-6.
- 26:17Speaker 1: Why?
- 26:17Speaker 2: Tristan Jerry's in goal. Tristan Jerry's not a good goalie.
- 26:21Speaker 2: They still don't get it. You lose 7-6. Your defenseman
- 26:25Speaker 2: for the first time in NHL history gets a hat
- 26:29Speaker 2: trick on the first day of the NHL season ever.
- 26:32Speaker 2: He had, like, five points in this game. And they
- 26:35Speaker 2: lost 7-6 to Vancouver, who is one of the worst
- 26:38Speaker 2: teams in the league. And the thing with Madano, I'm
- 26:41Speaker 2: not surprised. What a bonehead move on his part. That's
- 26:46Speaker 2: Mike Madano, Hall of Famer. All right, you're lucky to
- 26:51Speaker 2: have him. He gets the chance to get 1,500. You
- 26:54Speaker 2: put him in. What a clown.
- 26:57Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what? I can't debate with you on
- 27:01Speaker 1: this one. I can't. My voice is going to last
- 27:05Speaker 1: tonight because I can't compete with you on this. Mike
- 27:07Speaker 1: Madonna went to the Detroit Red Bulls to play for
- 27:09Speaker 1: his hometown team. He's from Westland, Michigan. And for you
- 27:14Speaker 1: to not give him a chance at that milestone, we
- 27:15Speaker 1: think he's going to come back another year to get
- 27:18Speaker 1: one game in his pocket. That was bad. Okay, you
- 27:21Speaker 1: know what? Go ahead, Jason.
- 27:24Speaker 4: Oh, my God. I mean, Babcock, listen. He was hired
- 27:29Speaker 4: in Toronto. Before that, didn't do well there. Look, he
- 27:35Speaker 4: reminds me of a coach, Mike Keenan. He could discipline
- 27:41Speaker 4: his player. And would they like him? They hated him. Flyers,
- 27:45Speaker 4: they couldn't stay at him. They hated him there. And
- 27:48Speaker 4: you go to St. Louis, they turned him around, and
- 27:50Speaker 4: they hated him there. Gretzky, he– but that's another story
- 27:54Speaker 4: with Mike Keenan. Mike Babcock, he did the same thing
- 27:58Speaker 4: Mike Madonna did to Chris Chelios. You don't want to
- 28:01Speaker 4: play him again. You don't want to put him in minutes.
- 28:04Speaker 4: I can't remember the actual milestone at this time. But
- 28:08Speaker 4: he didn't play Chelios. He did that to Madonna. And
- 28:13Speaker 4: Mike Keenan, he did this to Gretzky, too. He did
- 28:16Speaker 4: this to players that he thought that he could get
- 28:19Speaker 4: the most out of. Instead, he just... really just kind
- 28:23Speaker 4: of making a man and pissing him off and I'm
- 28:25Speaker 4: going to speak. And, and it's just terrible. I mean,
- 28:30Speaker 4: for the Oilers, as far as winning for short term, okay.
- 28:35Speaker 4: Keep them. If you give them a short term to
- 28:37Speaker 4: someone who can succeed him. Otherwise, if you're going to
- 28:40Speaker 4: keep this guy in here, he's going to be totally,
- 28:45Speaker 4: he's going to be totally, uh, you know, he's going
- 28:50Speaker 4: to be totally run out of town and the players
- 28:53Speaker 4: are not going to want him. They're not going to
- 28:56Speaker 4: want him as long as he stays there too long.
- 29:00Speaker 4: So that's the only thing I'm afraid of. This reminds
- 29:04Speaker 4: me of a kind of a Mike Keenan situation. You know,
- 29:08Speaker 4: in my opinion, I, it'll be a good thing as
- 29:13Speaker 4: far as a short-term winning. Winning always cures everything. As
- 29:17Speaker 4: far as the relationships, we'll see kind of how the relationships, because,
- 29:21Speaker 4: you know, even Thomas Holmstrom used to say he was
- 29:24Speaker 4: a jerk, you know, even though they won that cup
- 29:27Speaker 4: in 08, he was a jerk and people didn't like him. I, again,
- 29:31Speaker 4: his coaching attributes, everything, you know, but as far as
- 29:37Speaker 4: like relationships with players and that, we'll see kind of
- 29:41Speaker 4: how it goes you know with.
- 29:43Speaker 1: Well Jason to give you clarity what happened I'm glad
- 29:45Speaker 1: you brought the Chelios situation that happened and Chelios' hometown
- 29:49Speaker 1: at the Winter Classic he wouldn't let him play in
- 29:51Speaker 1: the game unbelievable that was what he wanted to do
- 29:55Speaker 1: So I don't know what he was looking to prove there,
- 29:57Speaker 1: but it didn't impress me. But, yeah, I do agree
- 29:59Speaker 1: with you, Jason, that I think that this is a
- 30:01Speaker 1: short-term win-now mode. You know, Conor McDavid, obviously, it's important.
- 30:06Speaker 1: They want to get him a cup, and they feel
- 30:08Speaker 1: that Mike Batcock gives them the best chance to do it.
- 30:12Speaker 1: And we'll tell you what ends up happening. Great stuff, though, Jason.
- 30:14Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought the Chelios thing up. You got
- 30:16Speaker 1: my wheels turning. Good job. Okay, go ahead, Lucas.
- 30:21Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, this looks like a stunt to try
- 30:24Speaker 5: to bring some wins in, to try to bring a winning.
- 30:28Speaker 6: Tradition or winning formation to this team. Not a good
- 30:33Speaker 6: start last night, obviously.
- 30:35Speaker 5: I mean, the Madonna thing was, yeah, he was trying to.
- 30:43Speaker 6: Win a Stanley Cup and not play him. Like, what? Like,
- 30:48Speaker 6: Come on, man.
- 30:48Speaker 5: Like, the guy's on his last leg. He's been in
- 30:51Speaker 5: the league for years.
- 30:53Speaker 6: Come on. Let's play. Let him play. It's only one game.
- 30:58Speaker 6: Come on.
- 30:59Speaker 5: But that's crazy. But, I mean, maybe Mike can bring
- 31:09Speaker 5: in a goalie for Edmonton.
- 31:13Speaker 2: Don't hold your breath on that one. I'm like, that
- 31:15Speaker 2: seems to be the one thing. We got Tristan Jarrett.
- 31:19Speaker 2: You made a leather move with like Stuart Skinner, Stuart Skinner,
- 31:22Speaker 2: Tristan Jarrett. I'm like, they're the same goalie.
- 31:26Speaker 4: Okay.
- 31:26Speaker 2: You're not helping yourself. I'm like, if they could have
- 31:29Speaker 2: gotten Connor Hellebuck, but Connor Hellebuck doesn't want to play
- 31:31Speaker 2: in Canada anymore. So they can't, Winnipeg can't even treat
- 31:35Speaker 2: him there. And it's nuts. Plus, Babcock's got that thing
- 31:39Speaker 2: with cell phones and the Columbus Blue Jackets and doing
- 31:42Speaker 2: all sorts of weird things there. And I'm like, what's
- 31:45Speaker 2: this guy doing? What are you doing? Who does these
- 31:50Speaker 2: kinds of things? The only reason he has success is
- 31:55Speaker 2: because he was on Detroit. And he was handed to them.
- 31:58Speaker 2: Scotty Bowman's like, here, here you go. Here's these Hall
- 32:01Speaker 2: of Famers. Here's this great system. He had all those
- 32:04Speaker 2: great players. I'm like, you and me could have won
- 32:07Speaker 2: a cup with those guys. I'm like, they already won.
- 32:11Speaker 2: It wasn't because he did anything great. Did they win internationally?
- 32:15Speaker 2: He got the job internationally because he won with the
- 32:18Speaker 2: cup with Detroit that was handed to him. And now
- 32:23Speaker 2: he goes other places. Oh, he did okay with Anaheim.
- 32:25Speaker 6: Yep.
- 32:25Speaker 2: Did he win?
- 32:26Speaker 1: No.
- 32:27Speaker 2: And now we're in Edmonton. Oh, he's going to get
- 32:29Speaker 2: things started. And then, oh, that means Edmonton is really serious.
- 32:32Speaker 2: They want to keep Connor McDavid. So they're going to
- 32:34Speaker 2: hire that guy.
- 32:36Speaker 3: Okay.
- 32:37Speaker 4: Well, that's hilarious.
- 32:39Speaker 1: All right. Yeah.
- 32:41Speaker 2: This is going to be a, it's going to be
- 32:43Speaker 2: a dumpster fire unless they get a good goalie and
- 32:46Speaker 2: they still haven't done it.
- 32:47Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree. The goal thing is definitely the Oilers.
- 32:51Speaker 1: Achilles heel, no doubt. Candy, anything you want to add
- 32:53Speaker 1: to this?
- 32:55Speaker 3: No, I'll just say that, you know, sometimes coaches are
- 33:00Speaker 3: good for a team and sometimes they're not a good
- 33:02Speaker 3: mesh for a team. So we'll wait and see. As
- 33:06Speaker 3: a follow-up to our previous conversation, Cliff, the answer to
- 33:09Speaker 3: your question is the SEC, the fine that they charge
- 33:15Speaker 3: the team is paid to the opposing visiting institution. The
- 33:20Speaker 3: ACC funds the fine. They fund a league postgraduate scholarship.
- 33:28Speaker 3: And then the big 10, they focused on visiting team
- 33:31Speaker 3: security compliance. So they pay it to the visiting team
- 33:34Speaker 3: as well. So that gives you an idea of where
- 33:36Speaker 3: the funds go.
- 33:37Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much. That's something I always wonder
- 33:40Speaker 2: where that money's going to. If you're $ 500, 000, I hope
- 33:44Speaker 2: it goes to something good. So at least that there's
- 33:47Speaker 2: some positive, like, Results from that.
- 33:51Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's top-notch, Patricia. Let's stay with baseball. The
- 33:56Speaker 1: Dodgers reportedly offered Walker Buehler a $ 20 million contract this
- 34:00Speaker 1: past free agency, but he ended up going on to
- 34:04Speaker 1: sign for $ 21 million with the Boston Red Sox. Okay. Well,
- 34:07Speaker 1: I mean, the Red Sox and the playoffs are the Dodgers,
- 34:10Speaker 1: but what are your thoughts of that situation, Cliff, about
- 34:13Speaker 1: Walker Buehler?
- 34:16Speaker 2: Uh, Bueller Bueller, you might, it might be like Ferris
- 34:19Speaker 2: Bueller after he left. Um, yeah, he, he went to
- 34:22Speaker 2: Boston thought it'd be a good idea, you know, um,
- 34:26Speaker 2: even though he was on, uh, on Dodgers, he got
- 34:28Speaker 2: a little bit more now we have Boston still a
- 34:31Speaker 2: good team, but he played like kind of like garbage.
- 34:34Speaker 2: He didn't pitch very well. Um, you know, so it's, uh, yeah,
- 34:40Speaker 2: they're in the playoffs, but it's not really because of him. Um,
- 34:44Speaker 2: Either way, I, he still gets like, I still think
- 34:47Speaker 2: he gets a money for making the playoffs or whatever,
- 34:51Speaker 2: but you know, it's, he's not being very good. And then,
- 34:57Speaker 2: then he goes to the Phillies and look at the
- 35:01Speaker 2: guy right of them. And I'm like, no, he's not,
- 35:03Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. They're a mess. He's a mess.
- 35:07Speaker 2: He was going to be good. And then I guess
- 35:10Speaker 2: he just thought he was, bigger than he really was
- 35:13Speaker 2: even though he was good up to that point and
- 35:15Speaker 2: it just kind of fell apart for him okay.
- 35:18Speaker 4: Jason yeah i don't know i think the dodgers just
- 35:22Speaker 4: kind of gave up on him a little bit um
- 35:24Speaker 4: he could allow some speed on his fastball too and
- 35:27Speaker 4: it's you know hitting hitting just always gets it's it
- 35:32Speaker 4: gets better by day you know scouting reports I mean,
- 35:36Speaker 4: in 31 games this season with Red Sox, he was
- 35:39Speaker 4: 9-6 with a 4.56 earned run average, 128 innings, or
- 35:45Speaker 4: excuse me, 128 hits and 150 innings, 134 whip. Their
- 35:52Speaker 4: average numbers, you know, he was 9-6, he probably had
- 35:55Speaker 4: good run support. The Dodgers kind of probably just, they
- 36:00Speaker 4: just gave up on him. They don't really need anybody.
- 36:03Speaker 4: They've it seems like they're always improving every year and
- 36:08Speaker 4: free agency. So this guy, you know, third or fourth
- 36:14Speaker 4: starter at best, you know, I think he can still
- 36:18Speaker 4: help a team beyond this season. And, you know, we'll see.
- 36:24Speaker 4: He hasn't pitched any more than six innings this season, though, either.
- 36:27Speaker 4: So his last win was September 20th versus Miami Marlins.
- 36:33Speaker 4: His last loss was against Minnesota on August 23rd. So,
- 36:38Speaker 4: you know, it's average pitcher. I think he's decent. He
- 36:42Speaker 4: can still help teams maybe in a bullpen this season
- 36:46Speaker 4: or in this playoff here that he could help out
- 36:50Speaker 4: in a long, you know, long relief.
- 36:54Speaker 1: Go ahead, Lucas.
- 36:56Speaker 5: Yeah, he struggled with the Sox as well, so they
- 37:00Speaker 5: released him. And then Padre said, we'll give you a
- 37:06Speaker 5: final crack with $ 1.
- 37:09Speaker 6: 5 million.
- 37:10Speaker 5: So that's where he is right now. Yeah, he hasn't
- 37:15Speaker 5: been anything since, what, the 2018 season? for 2020 world series.
- 37:23Speaker 5: It's he's been fading ever since it used to be
- 37:25Speaker 5: such a good pitcher, but yeah, it's, I mean, pitchers are, well,
- 37:30Speaker 5: no hitters are really figuring him out and he's becoming
- 37:35Speaker 5: a best, a middle reliever situation. I mean, he's going
- 37:39Speaker 5: to be thrown into occasional some pop starts and just,
- 37:46Speaker 5: Hot starts here and there, but it's not going to
- 37:49Speaker 5: be anything significant like he was in the rotation for L.A.
- 37:53Speaker 6: He's... Yeah, I mean, it was just a.
- 37:56Speaker 5: Poor performance clause that happened last year with the Sox,
- 38:01Speaker 5: and it's kind of continuing this year a little bit.
- 38:05Speaker 5: So it's... Yeah, I mean, Walker Buehler is kind of
- 38:12Speaker 5: a pitcher that's... that had so much success, but it's,
- 38:20Speaker 5: it's really fading away, which is he's getting older, but
- 38:23Speaker 5: how old is he? Uh, he's 32. I mean, he's
- 38:28Speaker 5: not that old, but I guess something in his arm
- 38:31Speaker 5: is starting to lose. He's had a couple of surgeries.
- 38:34Speaker 5: I believe, um, that's missed. That's missed time. Maybe he
- 38:38Speaker 5: haven't fully healed from that. And that's why his numbers
- 38:41Speaker 5: aren't there. That's that happens with pitchers.
- 38:44Speaker 2: So, Man, he's 32, but he's probably been pitching since
- 38:47Speaker 2: he was a kid.
- 38:48Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 38:49Speaker 2: That's a good line. It's probably all he's been doing.
- 38:52Speaker 2: It's not like in the past where you do a
- 38:55Speaker 2: bunch of different sports. He's probably been throwing that arm year-round.
- 39:01Speaker 2: If he's not playing, he's probably doing all sorts of stuff,
- 39:04Speaker 2: never really getting a rest. That's why these guys, their
- 39:08Speaker 2: arms explode so quickly.
- 39:10Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 39:11Speaker 2: Okay.
- 39:14Speaker 1: Anybody else want to add to it? Who's left?
- 39:18Speaker 4: I am.
- 39:19Speaker 3: He pitched 153.2 innings this year. Padres, 131 strikeouts, 55
- 39:25Speaker 3: based on balls. ERA is 4.63. Nine and six record.
- 39:35Speaker 3: One of the highest ERAs on the Padres, but also
- 39:39Speaker 3: pitched a lot of innings compared to some of the
- 39:41Speaker 3: others as well. So we will see. I believe he
- 39:46Speaker 3: is on.
- 39:48Speaker 3: The roster for the NL for the postseason, which they
- 39:56Speaker 3: haven't started their game tonight yet. So we'll see how
- 40:02Speaker 3: far they go.
- 40:03Speaker 1: Ed Candy, time for a station break.
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- 41:50Speaker 1: Okay, so Candy, let's talk about your most recent episode
- 41:55Speaker 1: about what you ended up doing on Monday. I know
- 41:58Speaker 1: Rob will want to talk about it, but I want
- 42:00Speaker 1: you to talk about it in general.
- 42:02Speaker 3: So on Monday, let me just, I'm trying to, Let
- 42:08Speaker 3: me pull up the list that we had. Oh, I
- 42:10Speaker 3: had it on here. We went over the cheapest vacations
- 42:16Speaker 3: in the United States, cheapest places to go, and some
- 42:19Speaker 3: of the things you could do when you went there.
- 42:21Speaker 3: So definitely it was, it's the fastest 30 minutes, I
- 42:26Speaker 3: tell you. It really is quick. But one of the
- 42:29Speaker 3: places was like, the number one place was Albuquerque, New Mexico.
- 42:34Speaker 3: But we went over, like, the second place was San Antonio, Texas.
- 42:38Speaker 3: The third was Savannah, Georgia. We talked about St. Louis
- 42:43Speaker 3: and Salt Lake City and Pittsburgh and Charleston and Gulf Shores.
- 42:47Speaker 3: So definitely have to check it out. Cheapest vacation destinations
- 42:52Speaker 3: in the U.S., and it's 20 budget-friendly getaways. A lot
- 42:56Speaker 3: of times on Monday night, 7, 10, 7, 15, start time,
- 42:58Speaker 3: we talk 30 minutes. A lot of times we'll do
- 43:03Speaker 3: a list and then we talk about it and we
- 43:05Speaker 3: put it up there and we show you guys. This
- 43:07Speaker 3: one was the cheapest destinations. We've done a lot of
- 43:10Speaker 3: other ones as well, though. So, yeah, we've done top
- 43:15Speaker 3: 10 luxury train journeys. So we went with something different.
- 43:21Speaker 3: And we've done a lot of different lists, a lot
- 43:24Speaker 3: of different places to go visit. Have you been? And
- 43:28Speaker 3: we listed a bunch of places and you got a
- 43:29Speaker 3: point for each of them. So, yeah, it's just been fun.
- 43:32Speaker 3: Fastest 30 minutes.
- 43:37Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing, too. We just started this channel, what
- 43:41Speaker 1: was it, in June? And we're doing our end of subscribers.
- 43:45Speaker 1: And yet we're slowly grossing football right now with what
- 43:48Speaker 1: we ended up doing. But it's still surreal that when
- 43:52Speaker 1: we get more and more time, this is going to
- 43:54Speaker 1: get traction. And what Candy's doing with Rob right now
- 43:57Speaker 1: is good because you're at least able to get some
- 43:59Speaker 1: live shows connected to it. We're also trying to connect
- 44:03Speaker 1: the Motor City Mad Mouse show to it as well,
- 44:05Speaker 1: because obviously I like talking about travel as one of
- 44:07Speaker 1: those things where you don't talk about sports. You really, really,
- 44:10Speaker 1: really don't. And I think that's the beauty of it all.
- 44:14Speaker 1: So you know what? Before Rob gets here, I'm going
- 44:17Speaker 1: to let you guys give me a few parting shots
- 44:19Speaker 1: of your own right now about what's on your mind
- 44:21Speaker 1: in the world of sports. Go ahead, Cliff.
- 44:24Speaker 2: In the world of sports. Oh, it's hockey season now.
- 44:27Speaker 2: I'm wearing my NHL All-Star jersey. Because it's the start
- 44:31Speaker 2: of hockey season. And I'm excited about it for hockey.
- 44:36Speaker 2: But my team, the New York Islanders, it's going to
- 44:40Speaker 2: be bad. Yeah, they don't know how to make good moves.
- 44:46Speaker 2: They keep people for way too long. Have contracts for
- 44:50Speaker 2: very mediocre players. And yeah, there's some hope on the
- 44:55Speaker 2: horizon with the Matthew Shafers and guys like that. But
- 44:59Speaker 2: it's going to be a rough season. Ride this year,
- 45:01Speaker 2: they're probably going to be a top five overall pick.
- 45:05Speaker 2: The frustrating thing is, yeah, I'm a fan too, but
- 45:09Speaker 2: when you go online and you talk about the team,
- 45:14Speaker 2: there's too many delusional fans out there that think they're
- 45:18Speaker 2: going to win the cup every year. And I'm like, guys,
- 45:21Speaker 2: come on.
- 45:21Speaker 5: Really?
- 45:22Speaker 4: Seriously?
- 45:22Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, they're going to make the playoffs.
- 45:25Speaker 1: You forgot the other really. Okay, so if you're going
- 45:28Speaker 1: to do it, Listen to me. If you're going to
- 45:31Speaker 1: do that, listen, I don't mind you using it. Really, seriously, really.
- 45:35Speaker 1: Write it down. Really, seriously.
- 45:38Speaker 2: Okay, I'll make sure I use all three. So do it. Really, seriously, really.
- 45:45Speaker 3: Do it now.
- 45:46Speaker 4: Really, seriously, really.
- 45:48Speaker 1: That's how I like it.
- 45:51Speaker 2: You like how I stress that really at the end.
- 45:54Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a nightmare. It's like And then they're
- 45:58Speaker 2: not even– Schaefer is left-handed. They're putting him to the right.
- 46:02Speaker 2: They got Braden Shen they traded for last year. They
- 46:05Speaker 2: traded for Andre Palat. Oh, we're going to make a
- 46:08Speaker 2: playoff push. And I'm like, no, they're not. I'm like,
- 46:11Speaker 2: what are you doing? They needed to sell a whole
- 46:15Speaker 2: lot of guys and get picks, get prospects, but they
- 46:19Speaker 2: didn't do that. And the scary part is for me
- 46:22Speaker 2: as an Islander fan, it's 43 years. 43 years since
- 46:26Speaker 2: they last won the cup. That's only 11 away from
- 46:30Speaker 2: 54 with the Rangers did. We cannot match or hit that.
- 46:34Speaker 2: We got 10 years left.
- 46:36Speaker 1: 10. All right.
- 46:38Speaker 2: And all these other guys are starting this haze and
- 46:40Speaker 2: don't even realize it. It's like, oh, are you paying attention?
- 46:45Speaker 2: We cannot get to that. It's 10 years. 10 years
- 46:47Speaker 2: is going to go real fast. And they're not close
- 46:49Speaker 2: right now.
- 46:50Speaker 1: You got to start.
- 46:51Speaker 2: Getting rid of these guys. You got some guys. They
- 46:53Speaker 2: have some guys in the prospects. They've started getting some guys. Yeah.
- 46:58Speaker 2: It's so frustrating. And it's like, oh, they're going to
- 47:01Speaker 2: win a cup.
- 47:01Speaker 1: You don't know what you're talking about. I'm like, wake up.
- 47:08Speaker 1: You feel better? Yeah, thank you. Okay. What about you, Jason?
- 47:13Speaker 1: I had the last question. since he's known for it.
- 47:20Speaker 4: You know what? I feel Cliff's pain, though.
- 47:23Speaker 1: You know what?
- 47:23Speaker 4: When the Wings won the Cup after 42 years of
- 47:27Speaker 4: just horrible teams back in the 70s and 80s before me,
- 47:33Speaker 4: and winning that Cup was... Essential and electric after losing
- 47:39Speaker 4: a 95. So I get what you're going through, man.
- 47:42Speaker 4: I get it.
- 47:43Speaker 1: I understand.
- 47:44Speaker 4: My thing, I want to shout out to Justin Berlander.
- 47:48Speaker 4: He had a great career, not just for my Detroit Tigers,
- 47:51Speaker 4: but the Houston Astros, San Francisco Giants. He actually pitched
- 47:57Speaker 4: very good his last game. Here's the thing. it was
- 48:02Speaker 4: only disappointed in what you would have had a more
- 48:05Speaker 4: of a solid year, a pitch more than two games.
- 48:09Speaker 4: But I mean, Hey, he had a great career, three,
- 48:12Speaker 4: no hitters, uh, I was fortunate to see two here
- 48:16Speaker 4: in Detroit. Definitely a Hall of Famer. I'm glad that
- 48:21Speaker 4: we were able to watch him pitch and seeing the
- 48:25Speaker 4: game over on Saturday. But another thing, too, Denver, the
- 48:31Speaker 4: Rams game. I don't know if you guys got to
- 48:32Speaker 4: see that. There was a pass interference call inside the
- 48:35Speaker 4: five-yard line that allowed the Broncos to score a touchdown there.
- 48:38Speaker 4: They had a couple– a couple of questionable calls there
- 48:45Speaker 4: by the referees that I didn't like. I'm not really
- 48:49Speaker 4: a Rams fan, but at the same time, I, I
- 48:52Speaker 4: didn't agree with the calls and, and these, these officials,
- 48:56Speaker 4: they're going to keep, they're going to keep getting hammered.
- 48:59Speaker 4: You know, they, I don't know. There's not a lot
- 49:03Speaker 4: that you can do there, but the Rams won or
- 49:06Speaker 4: lost the game because of it. I thought it, Could
- 49:10Speaker 4: have probably been overturned on that, but you can't really
- 49:15Speaker 4: overturn a penalty. Can you? Or can you?
- 49:17Speaker 1: I don't know. But you know what? They'll experiment with
- 49:22Speaker 1: that business with the United Football League at some point,
- 49:25Speaker 1: the NFL adapted. I'll let Lucas do one. I want
- 49:28Speaker 1: to get Rob involved in the show. Sure. New York copies,
- 49:31Speaker 1: I want to get involved. Go ahead. Yeah, I mean, I.
- 49:35Speaker 6: favorite time of the year.
- 49:37Speaker 5: Baseball season is coming to a close. I don't, I mean,
- 49:41Speaker 5: playoffs are going on. I'm like, I mean, it's always fun,
- 49:45Speaker 5: but watching my San Francisco Giants go out like that
- 49:48Speaker 5: was rough. So, I mean, it's good to see that, uh,
- 49:53Speaker 5: Bryce Eldridge is going to be the good guy for,
- 49:56Speaker 5: for the next couple of years and pitching looks awful, but, uh, Yeah,
- 50:02Speaker 5: as far as going back on what Cliff says about
- 50:05Speaker 5: the Islanders, I mean, those fans.
- 50:07Speaker 6: Are desperate for anything.
- 50:11Speaker 5: It's like a Browns fan saying, yeah, we're going to
- 50:16Speaker 5: the Super Bowl this year.
- 50:18Speaker 6: Or a Cowboys fan, oh, we're going to win it.
- 50:21Speaker 6: Come on, man.
- 50:21Speaker 5: I mean, it's great to be rooting for them, but
- 50:24Speaker 5: at the.
- 50:26Speaker 6: Same time, they're kind of used to it, so it's just, eh,
- 50:28Speaker 6: screw it, why not?
- 50:29Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 50:29Speaker 2: But I'm old enough to remember the dynasty and I
- 50:32Speaker 2: hope I admit I, I, I was, I would got
- 50:36Speaker 2: in on the ground floor in 1980, you know? So it's,
- 50:40Speaker 2: it's been, it was a nightmare for a long time
- 50:42Speaker 2: and yeah.
- 50:43Speaker 1: Sorry.
- 50:44Speaker 2: Keep going.
- 50:45Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
- 50:45Speaker 6: No, it's, that's fine.
- 50:46Speaker 5: I mean, it's, it's, it's rough for y'all, especially, I mean,
- 50:50Speaker 5: the Red Wings as well. I mean, Dylan Larkin is
- 50:52Speaker 5: now hurt after he requested a trade and, He's got
- 50:57Speaker 5: a $ 69 million contract that's up for grabs. It's still
- 51:01Speaker 5: going on. He's the pinnacle of that team right now.
- 51:05Speaker 5: They're looking really, really good, but at the same time,
- 51:09Speaker 5: if it's uneasy with this guy, golly, and now he's hurt.
- 51:16Speaker 6: Hockey's going to be so much fun to watch.
- 51:19Speaker 5: This year, I am so invested in every single hockey
- 51:23Speaker 5: game this year. versus football, basketball, anything, that's going to
- 51:31Speaker 5: get me through this slump of no baseball from October
- 51:35Speaker 5: till February.
- 51:37Speaker 2: Well, if they have a season next season.
- 51:39Speaker 1: Yeah, or longer. Yeah, don't remind me of that. Katie,
- 51:44Speaker 1: anything you want to add real quickly?
- 51:46Speaker 4: I do.
- 51:46Speaker 3: My parting shot, even though we're not parting yet, is
- 51:52Speaker 3: kudos to the Milwaukee Brewers and the Christian Yelich. If
- 51:56Speaker 3: you guys don't know, the Brewers have made the postseason
- 52:00Speaker 3: a total of 12 times all time. Four appearances in
- 52:05Speaker 3: the playoff before Christian Yelich, eight now with Christian Yelich.
- 52:11Speaker 3: If you don't know, the Brewers had never named a
- 52:14Speaker 3: captain on their team. They went to Christian Yelich and said,
- 52:19Speaker 3: we want to name you our first captain. His first
- 52:22Speaker 3: move before he said yes was, honestly, I think the
- 52:26Speaker 3: first captain was Robin Yount. I need to get his
- 52:29Speaker 3: okay before I will take the C. So they actually
- 52:34Speaker 3: called Robin Yount, talked to Robin Yount. Robin Yount said, absolutely,
- 52:38Speaker 3: wear the C. You know, you're doing such a great
- 52:41Speaker 3: job there. Christian Yelich is the captain of the Milwaukee
- 52:44Speaker 3: Brewers now. But I thought that was just a cool
- 52:48Speaker 3: way to do it. I thought Christian handled himself well enough.
- 52:52Speaker 3: But to know that since he's been there, since 2018,
- 52:56Speaker 3: this is their eighth postseason appearance. And I hope they
- 53:00Speaker 3: do well. Obviously, they have a bye right now, so
- 53:04Speaker 3: they're waiting to see who their opponent will be. But
- 53:08Speaker 3: I would love it, obviously, if they won the World Series.
- 53:12Speaker 1: No, I don't have one. Yeah, the wrestling season's lost,
- 53:16Speaker 1: and I don't really care. I'm just looking forward to
- 53:18Speaker 1: my next big trip. All right, Rob, welcome to the show.
- 53:21Speaker 1: We're going to get you started on some New York topics.
- 53:24Speaker 1: We're going to reflect back a little bit about a
- 53:26Speaker 1: year ago. We talked about the Mets in the 2025
- 53:30Speaker 1: World Series. I know it's a year later, but think
- 53:32Speaker 1: about it. Max Scherzer obviously made it. And we know
- 53:36Speaker 1: that Max Scherzer is now with the Blue Jays. And
- 53:40Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be playing a whole lot. I
- 53:41Speaker 1: think he's just about done. So let's continue the nerd.
- 53:46Speaker 1: I'll mention him. I want everybody to tell me which
- 53:49Speaker 1: one stands out. Max Scherzer, Chris Bassett. Obviously went to
- 53:53Speaker 1: the Jake as well. Excuse me. And then you have
- 54:00Speaker 1: Andres Jimenez. Well, here, give me your thoughts. Well, here, I'll...
- 54:04Speaker 1: So we have Chris Bassett. I'll go over them all
- 54:09Speaker 1: real quick. And you got Andres Gomez. Jimenez, rather. Jimenez. Yeah,
- 54:16Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, Andres. Seems like a lot of
- 54:19Speaker 1: these guys are going to Toronto, weren't they?
- 54:22Speaker 2: Yeah, they were all on Toronto that.
- 54:25Speaker 1: Year. Yeah.
- 54:28Speaker 2: There's a whole lot more this year.
- 54:30Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, and then Michael Conforto. Yeah, well, I know,
- 54:33Speaker 1: but we're just going to go over this list about
- 54:35Speaker 1: what a difference a year makes. Yeah, Michael Conforto, and
- 54:38Speaker 1: obviously the Dodgers ended up, he went to the Dodgers,
- 54:44Speaker 1: and a couple more worth mentioning, and then we'll, Rob
- 54:47Speaker 1: leads it up, and then you have Anthony Banda. I
- 54:50Speaker 1: look at this guy, he's got a million tattoos, too.
- 54:53Speaker 1: I don't know how I can handle the pain of
- 54:55Speaker 1: all those bad boys. And that's about it. All right, Rob,
- 54:58Speaker 1: just going on, what are your thoughts about this group? Yeah, hi, everyone.
- 55:03Speaker 9: Scherzer had a decent postseason last year, if you remember,
- 55:07Speaker 9: for the Blue Jays. Bassett, he was good the one
- 55:13Speaker 9: year he was on the Mets. I saw him win
- 55:17Speaker 9: a couple times at Citi Field. Conforto, he just went
- 55:22Speaker 9: downhill after that injury and not signing that one contract
- 55:26Speaker 9: with the Mets. What did he really do for the Dodgers?
- 55:32Speaker 1: Not much.
- 55:33Speaker 9: And Jimenez and Banda, no big deal. So Scherzer, the
- 55:38Speaker 9: biggest name, of course, on that list, had a decent
- 55:41Speaker 9: postseason last year. Blue Jays aren't in it, obviously, this year.
- 55:46Speaker 9: And Scherzer probably is done. especially if the season starts
- 55:53Speaker 9: late or if we even have a season because it's definitely,
- 55:57Speaker 9: I think it's going to start late because there's no
- 56:01Speaker 9: way they're going to agree on anything. It's going to
- 56:05Speaker 9: take time. So Scherzer's probably done.
- 56:09Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right.
- 56:13Speaker 8: Okay.
- 56:13Speaker 1: Go ahead, Luca.
- 56:17Speaker 6: Yeah, Scherzer is.
- 56:19Speaker 5: Definitely on the last final end of his career.
- 56:24Speaker 6: I mean, if you remember, him and.
- 56:28Speaker 5: Kershaw were the backups for Maddox and Johnson, Randy Johnson,
- 56:34Speaker 5: that is, when they first got in the league. I mean,
- 56:38Speaker 5: it was just like, oh, these two rookies are coming through.
- 56:40Speaker 5: But yeah, Scherzer is, I mean, he's had one of
- 56:43Speaker 5: the greatest careers as a pitcher. Conforto, oh my gosh.
- 56:49Speaker 5: Oh man, what a freaking traitor. Giants to the Dodgers.
- 56:54Speaker 5: I mean, he was so good with, he was, well,
- 56:57Speaker 5: he wasn't so good, but he was all right with
- 56:59Speaker 5: the Giants and he goes to the Dodgers and just, yeah,
- 57:04Speaker 5: he had such a great year with the Mets. That's
- 57:07Speaker 5: what I'll say. He had, that's where he shined. It wasn't,
- 57:10Speaker 5: it wasn't spectacular, but he, he had a good year
- 57:14Speaker 5: enough for people to notice and make something out of it. And, Bassett,
- 57:21Speaker 5: I mean, he's okay. He's had, what, one good year,
- 57:29Speaker 5: and nothing's really shined besides that.
- 57:31Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not.
- 57:34Speaker 5: Really anything to write home about.
- 57:41Speaker 6: So, yeah, that's my take. Hey, Candice.
- 57:47Speaker 3: Obviously, Scherzer's had a long career. We just watched Justin
- 57:52Speaker 3: Verlander and how he went off and his daughter came
- 57:57Speaker 3: out and took him out of the game. That was cool.
- 58:00Speaker 3: Scherzer hasn't said if he's done or not. More than likely,
- 58:07Speaker 3: especially if there's a delay in the season, I'm sure.
- 58:13Speaker 3: It's interesting to see how many of these players jump
- 58:17Speaker 3: from team to team and don't stay on one roster
- 58:21Speaker 3: for a long time. There's very few that do that anymore.
- 58:25Speaker 6: Okay.
- 58:27Speaker 1: All right. Let's talk about another former Mets. Obviously, or no,
- 58:32Speaker 1: actually a former Blue Jay. Everybody was kicking him around
- 58:35Speaker 1: last week, but Alex Manola was actually designated for assignment.
- 58:40Speaker 1: But the former Blue Jay for assignment, he was 27
- 58:43Speaker 1: and pitching the Majors. the season covering from elbow surgery
- 58:47Speaker 1: let's just give us an overall new point about alice
- 58:50Speaker 1: manoa do you think he's done pitching or does he
- 58:52Speaker 1: have anything left in the tank let's start it off.
- 58:56Speaker 2: He got off to a good start i mean he
- 58:58Speaker 2: got drafted in 2019 which is seven years ago and
- 59:01Speaker 2: you know he started off well i mean you know
- 59:06Speaker 2: and then it just kind of like went downhill and
- 59:09Speaker 2: I mean, he was up the Cy Young for at
- 59:13Speaker 2: one point and then the injury hit and he just
- 59:17Speaker 2: really hasn't, I mean, he's been okay, but I don't,
- 59:21Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know. Maybe, maybe, maybe he can
- 59:24Speaker 2: do something. He's with the angels now. Um, but I mean,
- 59:29Speaker 2: he did play for their affiliate. Um, and I mean, it's, yeah, it's,
- 59:35Speaker 2: it just, it's, he's one of those, those guys who
- 59:39Speaker 2: comes in big fast and he probably just got burnt out,
- 59:43Speaker 2: got an injury. And it just tells you the whole
- 59:45Speaker 2: kind of like this athletic careers, especially with your big
- 59:49Speaker 2: time pitcher, one injury and your arms never the same. Um,
- 59:55Speaker 2: he probably won't last that long. He might, he might
- 59:58Speaker 2: hook up a couple other places, but it's, I don't
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: think it's going to be very pretty the next couple
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: of years. And once again, he'll probably hook up with
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: an independent league team with the next couple of years
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: or a Mexican team, or maybe he'll be playing with
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: Trevor Bauer sometime soon. But you know, that's, that's, that's
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: the tragedy sometimes of some of these guys who get
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: a big start at first and then injury hits. And
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: as soon as they get there, it's, Oh wait, they're gone.
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: And it's a story that's been told tons of times before.
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jason.
- 1:00:32Speaker 4: Yeah, Sean Menea is pretty serviceable. He's a left-hander. He's
- 1:00:36Speaker 4: still got a lot of fastball. Like Cliff was saying,
- 1:00:40Speaker 4: I think he just, he had that injury and then
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: it just kind of went south on him. He's still serviceable.
- 1:00:49Speaker 4: Like you said, he was a 2019 first-round pick. I
- 1:00:53Speaker 4: think we'll see, you know, do guys get, as soon as,
- 1:00:57Speaker 4: as soon as these guys have arm problems, it's like,
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: we may never see him again. You know, like for,
- 1:01:03Speaker 4: for instance, Spencer Turnbull had a no hitter for the
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: Tigers in 2021. We never seen him again. You know,
- 1:01:10Speaker 4: like what happened to these guys? So yeah. Well, I
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: see the Sean Menea will be back. I think he
- 1:01:17Speaker 4: will be. But yeah, We'll see. He had a serviceable
- 1:01:25Speaker 4: career with, I think, the A's as well with Toronto.
- 1:01:29Speaker 4: Guys like Scherzer, you know, we already know he came
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: up with Arizona. They sent him down when he was
- 1:01:37Speaker 4: on the Tigers. And the rest has been history. He's
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: never really looked back. And He's going to go down
- 1:01:48Speaker 4: as one of the best strikeout pitchers that ever pitched
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: in the major leagues. Scherzer had a serviceable, great, solid
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: year this year. I would have took him over Verlander,
- 1:02:02Speaker 4: even though I love Verlander. Same thing, you guys were
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: talking about Conforto was probably better with the Mets than
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: any team.
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: Guys get hurt.
- 1:02:17Speaker 4: But as far as, you know, pitching, Manea, we'll see.
- 1:02:20Speaker 4: You know, who knows? Maybe Scott Harris. I'm not a
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: fan of Scott Harris. He'll end up signing him one-year
- 1:02:27Speaker 4: deal like he did, you know, like he's done for
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: Amber Valdez and, you know, bad contracts. Who knows? He
- 1:02:34Speaker 4: could end up a tiger for all we know. So, yeah,
- 1:02:38Speaker 4: like I said, it's pitchers that get hurt. And I
- 1:02:43Speaker 4: think he's still a serviceable pitcher, Manea. He'll be on
- 1:02:48Speaker 4: a team.
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:02:51Speaker 8: Rob?
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: Yes, Scott.
- 1:02:54Speaker 9: We had something going on out here with ambulances and stuff,
- 1:02:56Speaker 9: so I had to mute myself for a second. I
- 1:03:00Speaker 9: missed the question because it was loud out here.
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: What's the question? Go ahead, Candy.
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: We're talking about Alec Manoa.
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
- 1:03:10Speaker 9: I wasn't sure because I heard Jason say Scott Mania.
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:03:16Speaker 9: Okay, so you're talking about, yeah, I think that, I
- 1:03:19Speaker 9: don't know, Scott, if he's done or not. Like Cliff said,
- 1:03:26Speaker 9: he was drafted in 2019, got the injury. We know
- 1:03:32Speaker 9: what a lot of these players, they never come back
- 1:03:36Speaker 9: from the injuries, no matter what they were supposed to
- 1:03:40Speaker 9: be in their career. So chances are, maybe he, you know,
- 1:03:45Speaker 9: he comes back and he's average. I don't think he's
- 1:03:48Speaker 9: going to be anything great. And, you know, I don't,
- 1:03:51Speaker 9: I don't even, I don't know if he comes back from,
- 1:03:54Speaker 9: from the injury.
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: Hey, Lucas. Yeah.
- 1:03:58Speaker 5: I mean, stellar numbers in 2022, 16 and seven with
- 1:04:03Speaker 5: a two 24 ERA.
- 1:04:05Speaker 6: I mean, great stats.
- 1:04:08Speaker 5: And then it just starts to dwindle from there and
- 1:04:10Speaker 5: five 87 the next year. And, Yeah, and then, of course,
- 1:04:15Speaker 5: he has the injury in 2024 in May and misses
- 1:04:19Speaker 5: all 2025.
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: And this year, I.
- 1:04:23Speaker 5: Can guarantee you, he's still feeling a little bit, and
- 1:04:25Speaker 5: he's not fully recovered. So I can imagine that he's
- 1:04:30Speaker 5: doing something right now to make something happen for his
- 1:04:34Speaker 5: recovery to get into top shape.
- 1:04:37Speaker 6: I hope he does.
- 1:04:38Speaker 5: Because, I mean, 16 and 7.
- 1:04:43Speaker 6: With an ERA.
- 1:04:45Speaker 5: Of 224 when the Blue Jays had a great rotation
- 1:04:50Speaker 5: as well. I can't remember who else was on that
- 1:04:53Speaker 5: rotation at the top of my head. I want to
- 1:04:56Speaker 5: say Sanchez. But, yeah, he was right in the heart
- 1:05:03Speaker 5: of it. And for him to be able to just
- 1:05:08Speaker 5: see 982 in 2026.
- 1:05:12Speaker 6: I'm really sad, so I really hope he makes.
- 1:05:17Speaker 4: A push.
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: On December 2nd, he signed a one-year contract, $ 1. 95 million
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: with the Angels. On May 16th, he collapsed with eight
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: runs in one and a third innings against the Dodgers,
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: and his rights were transferred to the Miners on May 20th.
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: After his contract was transferred to the AAA, he made
- 1:05:38Speaker 3: 11 starts, pitching 35 innings, with one win, seven losses,
- 1:05:44Speaker 3: an ERA of 15.43, 52 hits, 53 walks, 28 strikeouts.
- 1:05:55Speaker 3: He was released on July 29th. I don't think he's
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: recovering from that and from the surgeries and stuff like that. Unfortunately,
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: I think. His better days are behind him. So, but
- 1:06:12Speaker 3: that's me.
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: Okay. You know what? Let's go to our featured topic
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: of the night. That featured topic of the night is
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: which U.S. North League has the worst playoff format. Now,
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: let's go over them one by one. National Football League 14,
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: playoff team 7 in each conference. 44% of the league
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: makes the playoffs. Top seeds in each conference get a bye.
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: Division winners are guaranteed a top four seed. NBA, 12
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: teams qualify directly for the playoffs, eight additional teams in
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: the play-in tournament. 66% of those in the league make
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: for postseason. Winners don't impact seeding. Major League Baseball called
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: teams six from each league. Seeds one to three given
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: to division winners. 40% of the league makes the playoffs.
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: Two seeds given the first round by And the National
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: Hockey League, 16 teams, eight from each conference, three seeds
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: in each division qualified, two additional wildcards in each conference,
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: 50% of the league makes the playoffs. There you have it.
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: I'll comment first. I don't like the NHL. Too many teams, period.
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: They've always been watered down, and that's what I have
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: to say. I'll turn it over to Cliff.
- 1:07:31Speaker 4: You just said that to piss me off.
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: You just pissed me off. You said that to piss
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: me off. That's absolutely ridiculous. They have by far the
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: best playoff series ever.
- 1:07:44Speaker 4: It's in your heart.
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: It's silly.
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: It's a joke.
- 1:07:47Speaker 3: They got 20.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: And it's like, Oh, we have these guys and they
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: have that stupid mid season tournament. What's the point of that?
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: The NBA is a ridiculous championship.
- 1:08:06Speaker 6: We got like 20 guys.
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, we have these guys who play in. No,
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: it's eight in each conference, 16 play, and you're going
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: to insult them? They play harder than any of the
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: rest of those jokers. They're ridiculous. You're just doing this
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: to piss me off, and you're right.
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: And you did.
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: You're right. You know in your heart that the NHL
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: playoffs is by far not even close. by far the
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: best and should be embarrassed by their format and they
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: have that stupid mid-season tournament which.
- 1:08:45Speaker 10: Makes sense where actually some of those games actually count
- 1:08:51Speaker 10: what an insane idiotic way to do playoffs.
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: And their trophy's stupid, too.
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: I'll give you that much about the midseason tournament. That
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: is a farce. I give you that. But come on.
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: The NHL's too watered down.
- 1:09:06Speaker 4: Period.
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: Watered down?
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: Watered down?
- 1:09:10Speaker 10: But still, 16-16, there's no better.
- 1:09:12Speaker 3: Nobody looks harder.
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: When the guys blow out their ACL and they grab
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: on the ice because they want to get back in there,
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: you won't ever see that from your pathetic NBA.
- 1:09:24Speaker 6: Oh, my God. You touched me.
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: You breathed on me.
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: Oh, I'm dying. They can't have a second of heart.
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: Do me a favor.
- 1:09:34Speaker 10: Don't have a friend pay up for a heart attack
- 1:09:36Speaker 10: on your anniversary. This is doing me sick.
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: We are knights of the round table. Don't you ever,
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: ever give disdain towards the NHL playoffs and the Stanley
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: Cup because you're going to lose every single time.
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: You feel better? You're wrong.
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: I am not wrong.
- 1:09:59Speaker 6: You know it.
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: You know it.
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: How dare you?
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: On the opening day of NHL, the Stanley Cup is
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: by far People come from thousands of miles away just
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: to see it.
- 1:10:13Speaker 4: Oh, look at all this.
- 1:10:14Speaker 6: Oh, it's a top trophy.
- 1:10:16Speaker 9: Nice with the NBA.
- 1:10:18Speaker 3: Oh!
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: It's not even close, and you know it, Morgan Ross.
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: If you're trying to try out for Elvin the Chipmunk,
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: you're doing a good job of it. Let me say this.
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: I can do lots of voices there, sport. I'll bet
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: you could. Let me say it. Seriously. Now, make sure
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: your wife doesn't sue me when you have a heart
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: attack on your anniversary. I'll be in trouble. I'll say
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: it again. I'm busted if it don't matter. Well, let
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: me really, with all due respect, I did piss you
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: off for doing that. Because I hadn't had a good,
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: solid rant with you in a while. The NBA is
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: a joke for a lot of reasons. That's why we
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: don't talk about it much on the air. Now, one
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: thing I will say about the Stanley Cup, though, is
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: what I do like is the fact that they're hard-nosed, grinding,
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: and all that. The only thing I said was, I
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: just think there's too many teams in it. I didn't
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: say it was a bad format. So you need to
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: get the damn wax out of your ears.
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: Get out now.
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: The NBA has 20. The NBA has 20. How do
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: you manage 20?
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: At least that 16 makes sense. The 20s are, oh,
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: maybe you get in and we get in. And I'm like,
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: what is this? They're trying to do like an NCAA thing.
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: Aren't we playing things? It's such a joke. They're a joke.
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: The league's a joke. I've always said that the NHL
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: had too many teams that got in. That's why I
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: never knocked MLB in the NFL. Their one game elimination,
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: it's like a tournament. Now, yeah, you got the NBA
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: and the NHL.
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: They play seven game series, four seven game series. All right.
- 1:11:45Speaker 2: 16 wins to get that. And that hockey is a
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: heck of a lot harder. than any of those other games.
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: When you're talking about those series and how hard and hard,
- 1:11:53Speaker 2: you know, especially after the 80, 80, well, two now
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: 84 game season, You can't even compare. It's not even close.
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: You can compare, but you'd be wrong, and you know it.
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: No, you're wrong. No, I'm not wrong.
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: I'm right. You're just trying to get my goat, and
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: you're just trying to get ratings and get another rant
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: out of me, and I know what you're doing there, sport,
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: because you know it, and you're not going to win there,
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: Morgan Ross.
- 1:12:19Speaker 3: You're not going to win there.
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: You're darn right I'm going to win.
- 1:12:26Speaker 4: I hate to lose.
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: In your mind, okay? I've got my gold medal.
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: I've done something.
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: No, you haven't.
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: You know I'm right. You're wrong. I'm so right.
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: Everybody in this room and on this show knows I'm right.
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: My mind is yellow anyway. Don't worry about it. I'm
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: a cyber disease. I got jello and I got it.
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: And now I got to get you the mellow. Cause
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: other people want to talk about it. Okay.
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: What was going to happen?
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: Come on.
- 1:12:56Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:12:59Speaker 3: If I'm going to go out there and pay for that.
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: Let me pitch. If I'm going to blast very Dave
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: Doran up in Charlotte, you're easy. Oh no. Actually, I
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: enjoyed it more with him than you because, because obviously
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: I have my reasons and it's all you need to know.
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: But I, I was looking for something. I don't want
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: to give you a Fred Stanford heart attack because I
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: need you every Wednesday night.
- 1:13:22Speaker 6: Okay.
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: 24-7. But that was a good debate anyway, Cliff. I
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: was waiting. I'm like NASCAR. I was waiting for the
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: big one. All right, Jason, take it from there. Sick, though, man.
- 1:13:32Speaker 4: Excellent debate, gentlemen. Look, here's the thing. For me, the
- 1:13:37Speaker 4: NHL and the NBA was always, you always see that
- 1:13:41Speaker 4: one through eight, two through seven, three through six, four
- 1:13:45Speaker 4: through five, that kind of scenario. You know, and then
- 1:13:49Speaker 4: they had the playoff. with the seventh and eighth seed. I,
- 1:13:53Speaker 4: I hate it with the NBA. You guys agree with me.
- 1:13:56Speaker 4: I'm sure on that. I don't like the plan. I
- 1:13:59Speaker 4: think it's, I think it's awful. I mean, because they're
- 1:14:02Speaker 4: going to get knocked out anyway, if it's a best
- 1:14:05Speaker 4: of a seven or best of five series. you know,
- 1:14:08Speaker 4: here's the thing, you know, major league baseball, I don't
- 1:14:10Speaker 4: know what you guys feel about this, but there's 162 games, right?
- 1:14:14Speaker 4: So there's a way a wild card of the best
- 1:14:16Speaker 4: of three. When I seen that three years ago, when
- 1:14:20Speaker 4: the Astros played the tigers and I'm like, wait a minute,
- 1:14:23Speaker 4: all we got to do is win two and we're
- 1:14:26Speaker 4: moving on. All right. Well, I don't know. I think
- 1:14:30Speaker 4: that make, why not make that a five game series?
- 1:14:34Speaker 4: Because you have, Granted, I'm a homer, so I wanted
- 1:14:39Speaker 4: Detroit to win. But at the same time, if you're
- 1:14:42Speaker 4: really looking at it, make it a five-game series. You know,
- 1:14:46Speaker 4: Houston was one of the best teams that year. So, again,
- 1:14:51Speaker 4: like you said about the hockey, you know, there's 16
- 1:14:55Speaker 4: teams that make it. The NBA, too, it's watered down.
- 1:14:59Speaker 4: But at the same time, hockey is more– obviously, it's
- 1:15:03Speaker 4: more intense and People go there to watch the fights, the,
- 1:15:08Speaker 4: you know, the checking, all that stuff. So for me,
- 1:15:11Speaker 4: I think NBA has got to be the worst. It's
- 1:15:14Speaker 4: probably as far as the best. I would have to go.
- 1:15:21Speaker 4: I would have to probably go with maybe baseball at
- 1:15:24Speaker 4: this time. Maybe.
- 1:15:25Speaker 6: Maybe.
- 1:15:26Speaker 4: As far as like the best to making it more
- 1:15:29Speaker 4: interesting because that's it. I mean, I don't agree with that.
- 1:15:32Speaker 4: I think there should be a five game series in
- 1:15:34Speaker 4: that wildcard, but, but Hey, it just makes it more exciting.
- 1:15:38Speaker 4: The NBA is dead. It's not the same.
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: Rob, you still have your hearing after what I just
- 1:15:45Speaker 1: did after I pummeled Cliff.
- 1:15:48Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: All right.
- 1:15:54Speaker 9: The NBA, why bother playing a regular season, first of all?
- 1:15:58Speaker 9: It's just– I'm old school with sports. You know that.
- 1:16:04Speaker 9: I hate it with the NBA. I'm not going to
- 1:16:08Speaker 9: start with hockey because the NBA is worse. Major League Baseball, though,
- 1:16:16Speaker 9: is starting– you're going to see– After this next contract
- 1:16:23Speaker 9: with the Players Union, you're going to see some crazy stuff.
- 1:16:26Speaker 9: It's going to get expanded, especially with the expansion teams. So,
- 1:16:32Speaker 9: you know, let's face it. They're going to ruin baseball, too.
- 1:16:36Speaker 9: Why have regular seasons if 50% of the teams are
- 1:16:42Speaker 9: going to make the playoffs? It's ridiculous.
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:16:48Speaker 6: It's ridiculous.
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: Hear that, Clark?
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: I disagree.
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: Yeah, go back and do what you got to do.
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: I just want to hammer my point home.
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: Yeah, you can hammer all you want.
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: Oh, good.
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: I'm a hammer. I'm a hammer. Okay. You got to
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: get a hammer in the evening. Hammer all night. That's right.
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I got next one.
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: Just like Leonard Nimoy. He had a hammer. Hammers in
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: the morning.
- 1:17:18Speaker 4: Hammers in the evening.
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: All over this land. I remember that song. All right.
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: What else, Rob? Anything you want to add to it?
- 1:17:27Speaker 3: Nope.
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: Cliff said it all. Ah, that a boy. Okay, go ahead. Lucas,
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: I know you've been waiting for one of these for
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: a while. How did it deliver up for you, my brother?
- 1:17:36Speaker 6: A little bit, yeah.
- 1:17:37Speaker 5: I mean, the NBA, that play-in crap is really, really old.
- 1:17:43Speaker 6: It just.
- 1:17:45Speaker 5: Doesn't have the playoff atmosphere. I mean, you get the
- 1:17:48Speaker 5: playoff atmosphere once you get to the finals.
- 1:17:50Speaker 6: To me, that's it.
- 1:17:51Speaker 5: Like game seven. But as far as NHL, you get
- 1:17:56Speaker 5: it throughout and it's all best of seven, which is
- 1:18:01Speaker 5: so entertaining. Baseball, you get a best of three and
- 1:18:04Speaker 5: then a best of seven. Was it back in the
- 1:18:08Speaker 5: day ALDS used to be best of five or has
- 1:18:11Speaker 5: it been always best of seven?
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: Best of five, I think.
- 1:18:16Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know why they changed that.
- 1:18:18Speaker 5: It's really interesting that they changed that, but Yeah, that
- 1:18:25Speaker 5: makes sense. But yeah, just having a wildcard game, best
- 1:18:29Speaker 5: of three, and then a division series would have been
- 1:18:32Speaker 5: best of five, and then the ALCS would have been
- 1:18:35Speaker 5: best of seven, and then World Series best of seven.
- 1:18:38Speaker 5: I mean, logistically, entertainment-wise, that would have been fun to see,
- 1:18:42Speaker 5: but yeah, you're going to have money coming to play
- 1:18:46Speaker 5: Cause you got to pay these players and you got
- 1:18:48Speaker 5: to pay. It's got to create some revenue.
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:18:51Speaker 5: But NHL, every single series is a best of seven,
- 1:18:57Speaker 5: which is phenomenal. You're in it to win it. And
- 1:19:01Speaker 5: it is amazing to watch. That's by far my best.
- 1:19:04Speaker 5: And NBA is the worst.
- 1:19:06Speaker 2: And they get the Stanley cup.
- 1:19:10Speaker 6: Yeah, that's pretty sweet.
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: Why don't you promote the Grand Cup? Okay, that's another
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: Canadian trophy.
- 1:19:19Speaker 2: You're going to really compare anything to the Stanley Cup?
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: Do you really?
- 1:19:24Speaker 2: You know I'm right. Even people who are basketball fans,
- 1:19:29Speaker 2: they still think the Stanley Cup's pretty freaking cool.
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: Let me tell you this. The only way I compare
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: the two is they're big trophies. That's where the comparison ends.
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: That's all. They're big bowls. Okay, go ahead, Candy.
- 1:19:42Speaker 3: The topic was which U.S. Sports League has the worst
- 1:19:48Speaker 3: playoff format. Not which one has the best trophy, the
- 1:19:53Speaker 3: best looking trophy.
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: It's all part of it.
- 1:19:57Speaker 3: No, no, because that's not what this question, that's not
- 1:20:00Speaker 3: what this is.
- 1:20:01Speaker 2: It's all part of the playoff format. What's the payoff
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: to the playoff?
- 1:20:06Speaker 3: My problem. What's the playoff? With the format is anytime
- 1:20:12Speaker 3: you let more than half of the league into the playoffs.
- 1:20:18Speaker 4: It's half.
- 1:20:18Speaker 3: It's part of the regular season. Why? Why does the NBA?
- 1:20:23Speaker 3: Didn't you say, Scott, it's like 60%? They have 20.
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: They've got like 20. They have 20 teams.
- 1:20:27Speaker 3: Like 66% of the teams make it.
- 1:20:29Speaker 2: So that's more ridiculous.
- 1:20:30Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:20:32Speaker 3: I think the NBA is ridiculous because I think that
- 1:20:35Speaker 3: too many make the playoffs. I think if you're going
- 1:20:38Speaker 3: to make the playoffs, it's supposed to be special. It
- 1:20:40Speaker 3: should be only a few, not more than half the league.
- 1:20:45Speaker 3: That would be my, you know, I mean, and obviously
- 1:20:49Speaker 3: football can't be a best of seven series, but wouldn't
- 1:20:52Speaker 3: that be kind of cool? I mean, I know it
- 1:20:57Speaker 3: would never happen. I know it would never happen because
- 1:21:00Speaker 3: that would just really extend things. But, you know.
- 1:21:06Speaker 2: And they do it on ice skates. They do it,
- 1:21:09Speaker 2: but it's not like a physical thing. It's not like
- 1:21:14Speaker 2: a physical thing, too.
- 1:21:17Speaker 3: It's the most physical.
- 1:21:17Speaker 2: I mean, don't get me wrong. Football is obviously physical,
- 1:21:20Speaker 2: but they do it on ice, on ice skates.
- 1:21:22Speaker 3: All right, let's move on to another topic.
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to another topic. NBC Sports
- 1:21:31Speaker 1: name Dave Fleming as a new voice of MLB Sunday leadoff.
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: Do you like the move, Cliff?
- 1:21:39Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that'll work. I mean, they're always trying
- 1:21:43Speaker 2: to find new people. I mean, I'll give the guy
- 1:21:48Speaker 2: a shot. I mean, it's... No, give him a shot.
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: Good for you.
- 1:21:53Speaker 2: Give him a shot.
- 1:21:54Speaker 4: He's fine.
- 1:21:55Speaker 2: Yeah, he's fine. He's like, yeah, he's been doing this
- 1:21:59Speaker 2: for a while. Okay, I'll give him a shot. Let's
- 1:22:02Speaker 2: see what he does. It's not like I'm watching it
- 1:22:06Speaker 2: all the time, but I mean, I'm fine with him.
- 1:22:11Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. It's just, yeah, I like Joe Buck.
- 1:22:15Speaker 2: Joe Buck is great and stuff, but hey, it's nice
- 1:22:17Speaker 2: to get some new, well, even though he's not really
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: new blood, but he's new blood to the audience from
- 1:22:25Speaker 2: a national standpoint, so it's probably pretty good to give
- 1:22:29Speaker 2: some out because I'm like, nothing against Joe Buck, but
- 1:22:32Speaker 2: Let's see some other guys see what they can do
- 1:22:34Speaker 2: too because that's what they want to do as well.
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: All right, Jason.
- 1:22:40Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it. I'm always a fan of the
- 1:22:45Speaker 4: guys coming up and trying to make a good name.
- 1:22:52Speaker 4: We've seen it here. Jason Benetti was in Chicago and
- 1:22:57Speaker 4: he ended up coming here in Detroit and nobody even
- 1:23:00Speaker 4: knew kind of who he was. So, and then we
- 1:23:03Speaker 4: see him doing college basketball, college football, baby. He's doing
- 1:23:08Speaker 4: it all. So, um, yeah, you know, like I said,
- 1:23:12Speaker 4: I don't mind it. Um, I grew up watching George
- 1:23:16Speaker 4: Cal and LK line and they were my favorite growing up.
- 1:23:20Speaker 4: They still always will, in my opinion, but, um, uh,
- 1:23:25Speaker 4: guys like that, uh, Fleming, uh, Matt.
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: Banks, thanks, Jordan.
- 1:23:31Speaker 4: You know, it's always good. You know, Joe Buck, stick
- 1:23:36Speaker 4: to football, in my opinion. I don't know. I think
- 1:23:40Speaker 4: he came out and said that he was more of
- 1:23:42Speaker 4: a football guy anyway.
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: But yeah, I like it. Go ahead, Ron.
- 1:23:51Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I don't mind it. Listen, I'm glad
- 1:23:54Speaker 9: NBC got baseball back. NBC has always done a great
- 1:23:58Speaker 9: job with baseball, with Vince Scully, Joe Garagiola, Quebec. So
- 1:24:05Speaker 9: I'm happy that NBC has baseball back again. That's excellent
- 1:24:12Speaker 9: for baseball. ESPN was just, you know, they're done. They
- 1:24:16Speaker 9: were done with baseball. It wasn't the same. So I think, yeah,
- 1:24:22Speaker 9: why not give them a shot? To me, it doesn't
- 1:24:24Speaker 9: matter because the Mets do have the best booth in baseball.
- 1:24:29Speaker 9: So we're used to listening to the best with Ronnie, Keith,
- 1:24:34Speaker 9: and Gary. So, you know, whatever NBC does is all
- 1:24:39Speaker 9: right with me because we have the best booth in baseball.
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: Hey, Luger.
- 1:24:45Speaker 5: Dave Fleming has done everything from basketball, does play-by-play– yeah,
- 1:24:54Speaker 5: play by play for, um, for the giants. He does, um,
- 1:24:59Speaker 5: stick a lot of ESPN football games. He did, he
- 1:25:03Speaker 5: does the masters alternate, um, on ESPN plus. Uh, I
- 1:25:08Speaker 5: think the only thing he does not do is hockey.
- 1:25:10Speaker 5: And I believe he has, he's done some of that too,
- 1:25:13Speaker 5: but that man is an all around, uh, just sports
- 1:25:19Speaker 5: minded guy. And he knows, he, he knows his way
- 1:25:22Speaker 5: around it. Um, I am all in favor of it
- 1:25:26Speaker 5: because it hopefully gets him away from the Giants desk
- 1:25:30Speaker 5: because this is just my opinion. I don't like his voice.
- 1:25:36Speaker 5: I do not like how he announces games. I like
- 1:25:40Speaker 5: when he gets excited, but that's about it. His commentary
- 1:25:46Speaker 5: and his insight on.
- 1:25:50Speaker 6: The game itself is just not good.
- 1:25:54Speaker 5: It just doesn't bring– I'm spoiled because it's Dwayne Kuyper
- 1:25:58Speaker 5: and formerly Mike Kruko. But, yeah, Dave Fleming, yeah, go
- 1:26:04Speaker 5: to NBC and have that corporate mindset. Go for it. Yeah,
- 1:26:07Speaker 5: I understand it. But, I mean, to be honest, Matt
- 1:26:10Speaker 5: Fack's excursion is a lot better. So, yeah, I mean,
- 1:26:15Speaker 5: if it takes him away from being the Giants play-by-play guy, yeah,
- 1:26:18Speaker 5: let's do it.
- 1:26:21Speaker 1: Great stuff. Great stuff. Candy?
- 1:26:24Speaker 3: Let's face it. We all have sports broadcasters that we've
- 1:26:29Speaker 3: grown up with that we like that normally call our team.
- 1:26:34Speaker 3: And we all have iconic ones that we can all name.
- 1:26:38Speaker 3: Ernie Harwell for you, Scott. Bob Euchre for me. So
- 1:26:44Speaker 3: do I understand that someone wants to move up the
- 1:26:47Speaker 3: ranks and wants to go to a national stage? Yes.
- 1:26:50Speaker 3: Am I cool with it? Sure. The one thing I
- 1:26:53Speaker 3: have always said, though, is when guys do make that move,
- 1:26:58Speaker 3: they need to be impartial. They need to be calling
- 1:27:02Speaker 3: the game because if they're calling for NBC, they're not
- 1:27:05Speaker 3: calling for as a Giants broadcaster. They are now a
- 1:27:08Speaker 3: national broadcaster. They need to bring both sides, be excited
- 1:27:12Speaker 3: for both sides, and be able to call the game
- 1:27:15Speaker 3: and tell stories about both sides. So am I happy
- 1:27:19Speaker 3: for him? Sure. I hope he does a really good job.
- 1:27:24Speaker 9: Again, I.
- 1:27:26Speaker 3: Don't listen to it very often. I like my hometown
- 1:27:31Speaker 3: as well as everybody here likes their hometown broadcasters. Just
- 1:27:36Speaker 3: like Rob said, he has his. You know, Lucas said
- 1:27:39Speaker 3: he has his.
- 1:27:40Speaker 6: We all do.
- 1:27:41Speaker 3: So that would be my one thing that I would
- 1:27:44Speaker 3: say about national broadcasters, that some of them are very
- 1:27:47Speaker 3: good about putting aside who they are rooting for and
- 1:27:52Speaker 3: some aren't.
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: All right, a couple quick Mets topics I want to
- 1:27:56Speaker 1: get to, then we're going to get to the travel. Rob,
- 1:27:59Speaker 1: you probably would be more familiar with this than anybody else.
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: Earlier in the year, the Mets have scored one run
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: or less in 16 games, most in MLB. Obviously, their
- 1:28:07Speaker 1: offense is bad, Rob, but what's your take on this?
- 1:28:12Speaker 6: Yeah, that was an embarrassment.
- 1:28:14Speaker 1: I mean, all.
- 1:28:16Speaker 9: The money that Cohen has spent on that team and
- 1:28:20Speaker 9: It was just a disaster in April, May, and June.
- 1:28:25Speaker 9: Things got a little better after the All-Star break, but
- 1:28:29Speaker 9: not until the trade deadline. And they got rid of Mendy, too,
- 1:28:36Speaker 9: which I think they took too long to do that, really.
- 1:28:39Speaker 9: They waited too long before they made that move.
- 1:28:42Speaker 6: Green's been all right.
- 1:28:44Speaker 9: We're stuck with Green for three years right now, so
- 1:28:48Speaker 9: it doesn't matter. But that was a disgrace.
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: Okay?
- 1:28:53Speaker 6: Disgrace.
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: With what.
- 1:28:56Speaker 9: what this team was supposed to be and what happened
- 1:29:01Speaker 9: in April and May, all I have to say, it
- 1:29:03Speaker 9: was a big disgrace.
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: Okay, Cliff, you want to answer this? And anybody else
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: is welcome to chime in. I want to start with
- 1:29:10Speaker 1: Rob because he has more of a pulse on what's
- 1:29:12Speaker 1: going on there. Go ahead, Cliff.
- 1:29:14Speaker 2: Yeah, this year was a nightmare beyond nightmares. And like
- 1:29:19Speaker 2: I always say, what I said at the beginning of
- 1:29:21Speaker 2: the year, this was going to be terrible. And it
- 1:29:23Speaker 2: was terrible. It was even worse than I thought it
- 1:29:28Speaker 2: could be. And this is what happens. This is what
- 1:29:33Speaker 2: happens when they get rid of guys they shouldn't get
- 1:29:35Speaker 2: rid of. And they bring in other guys because they
- 1:29:37Speaker 2: think they're too smart. And it hits, oh, it's the equation.
- 1:29:42Speaker 2: You don't know the new style. Go away. Yeah, it
- 1:29:46Speaker 2: was just so frustrating to watch this. Oh, look at
- 1:29:48Speaker 2: all these guys on the team. What am I looking at?
- 1:29:51Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, you can just bring your triple
- 1:29:53Speaker 2: eight guys up and do the same thing and not
- 1:29:55Speaker 2: spend as much money. I'm like, wow, this is a joke.
- 1:29:59Speaker 11: You know, but it's, it's the Mets. They, you know, they, they,
- 1:30:01Speaker 11: they think they are going to, they, they, they can
- 1:30:04Speaker 11: be good, but they, they get big too big for
- 1:30:06Speaker 11: the britches and, Oh, we'll bring this guy in this guy.
- 1:30:09Speaker 11: And it falls apart right in their face because that
- 1:30:13Speaker 11: never works for them. Every time they try to do
- 1:30:15Speaker 11: stuff like that, it usually explodes and it exploded again.
- 1:30:19Speaker 11: And I'm not surprised.
- 1:30:20Speaker 2: And, And they finished in last place and that's, that's,
- 1:30:24Speaker 2: that's on them. And yeah, they got the green and green.
- 1:30:27Speaker 2: Green's not, I am. I'm not thrilled that about him.
- 1:30:29Speaker 2: I'm not going to blame him for anything because there's
- 1:30:34Speaker 2: so many problems to go around. And I've just, I
- 1:30:39Speaker 2: just want to like, I'm on the hockey now football's
- 1:30:43Speaker 2: going on and they're probably not going to start next
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: season anyway. So we get a little bit of a
- 1:30:47Speaker 2: reprieve and, unless they like change things because they might
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: not be able to do anything anyway with all the
- 1:30:55Speaker 2: issues that they have with money and the coming.
- 1:30:57Speaker 10: Up alright alright don't get started on that that's something
- 1:31:01Speaker 10: I might not even have that to look forward to
- 1:31:03Speaker 10: I got only 30 minutes to show up and I'm
- 1:31:05Speaker 10: a travel segment okay get to travel I will in
- 1:31:10Speaker 10: a minute I got one more other Met topic anybody
- 1:31:12Speaker 10: else want to chime in on this or y'all good
- 1:31:14Speaker 10: good good All right, we'll go ahead.
- 1:31:17Speaker 1: We'll give one more to Rob. Obviously, the Mets promoted
- 1:31:20Speaker 1: Christopher Morel. They designated Gabriel Arias for assignment. How did
- 1:31:24Speaker 1: that work out, Rob?
- 1:31:26Speaker 6: Eh, not too good.
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: He batted.
- 1:31:29Speaker 9: He played 14 games to the Mets. One home run,
- 1:31:32Speaker 9: five RBIs, batted 200. You know, wasn't expecting much out
- 1:31:36Speaker 9: of him anyway. So it didn't matter. Season was over
- 1:31:43Speaker 9: in May. didn't matter and i don't want to start another.
- 1:31:47Speaker 2: I have no rants about chris morel there is plenty
- 1:31:52Speaker 2: of problems yes good.
- 1:31:54Speaker 1: All right well you know what we're going to do
- 1:31:57Speaker 1: something a little bit earlier than we well no i
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: want to pick up the miami marlins i got to
- 1:32:01Speaker 1: do this and i think a lot of people would
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: definitely want to understand why the marlins actually fight uh,
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: fire majority. They fire the majority of their pro scouting
- 1:32:12Speaker 1: staff and we'll focus on utilizing video. Any valuations? Some
- 1:32:17Speaker 1: thoughts about this one, Cliff.
- 1:32:19Speaker 2: Oh, look at that. Oh, they're doing, uh, they're doing
- 1:32:22Speaker 2: what everybody else is doing in, uh, television. They're firing
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: real people for technology. And, uh, yeah, that's going to
- 1:32:31Speaker 2: work out wonderfully. Uh, but, but don't worry. They'll have,
- 1:32:34Speaker 2: they'll have their equations in there and their, and all
- 1:32:37Speaker 2: that stuff too. So, uh, All they have to do
- 1:32:39Speaker 2: is look at their spreadsheets, and that's going to change
- 1:32:43Speaker 2: all their fortunes and send them to the championship and
- 1:32:47Speaker 2: win World Series after World Series just by doing that because,
- 1:32:50Speaker 2: you know, that always works.
- 1:32:52Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: Jason?
- 1:32:57Speaker 4: So I read on their team website, I don't know
- 1:32:59Speaker 4: if you guys heard this, that there's no in-person scouting. Like, okay.
- 1:33:06Speaker 4: That's going to really help everything. I mean, I understand
- 1:33:09Speaker 4: that they want to do video coordination and analytical data
- 1:33:17Speaker 4: for player evaluation, but how are you supposed to evaluate
- 1:33:21Speaker 4: talent when you don't have anybody there? You know, I
- 1:33:25Speaker 4: don't know. I don't like it. I think it's... I
- 1:33:31Speaker 4: think that from what I understand, that Peter... Peter Bendix,
- 1:33:37Speaker 4: he's the vice president for player option, vice president. He's
- 1:33:45Speaker 4: just doing like everyone's doing. It's just cut and call.
- 1:33:49Speaker 4: He's only been in there since, what, the end of 23?
- 1:33:51Speaker 4: The organization is, they're having a hard time. It just
- 1:33:56Speaker 4: seems like they're trying to stay out of the red
- 1:33:59Speaker 4: as much as possible, but they can't help it. Um,
- 1:34:03Speaker 4: and they're getting, you know, they're dumping salaries, not for players,
- 1:34:07Speaker 4: not only for players, but for team execs too. So, um,
- 1:34:11Speaker 4: I don't know if I really agree with the whole
- 1:34:14Speaker 4: talent factor as far as evaluating talent, but they're trying
- 1:34:18Speaker 4: to cut costs, uh, both, um, for players and, and,
- 1:34:22Speaker 4: and team executives. Um, it's just really unfortunate. You know,
- 1:34:27Speaker 4: it's just unfortunate. They're in a bad area. Um, Like
- 1:34:32Speaker 4: we talked about it before that, you know, that loan
- 1:34:34Speaker 4: Depot park, you know, their fan fan base isn't there.
- 1:34:39Speaker 4: So I think they're just trying to do a total
- 1:34:43Speaker 4: three 60 guys.
- 1:34:48Speaker 9: It's, it's a money thing. The Marlins are always trying
- 1:34:52Speaker 9: not to spend money. As we know, they win a
- 1:34:55Speaker 9: world series. They dismantle the team happens again. They dismantle
- 1:34:59Speaker 9: the team. So this is basically the same thing. Doesn't
- 1:35:03Speaker 9: cost as much to have AI and things like that
- 1:35:07Speaker 9: and video and everything going on instead of people. We
- 1:35:11Speaker 9: know that.
- 1:35:12Speaker 6: And that's it. For me, it's just to save money
- 1:35:18Speaker 6: and I don't like it at all.
- 1:35:20Speaker 9: And who knows after this work stoppage, what's going to
- 1:35:26Speaker 9: happen after that too. But I think it's just a
- 1:35:29Speaker 9: money move.
- 1:35:30Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just going to say real quick, Rob,
- 1:35:33Speaker 4: I want to just intertwine on that comment. Look, like
- 1:35:38Speaker 4: you said, to just move into people with the AI,
- 1:35:42Speaker 4: with the person, they don't have to have been player scouting.
- 1:35:46Speaker 4: I don't know. I can't stand that. It should be
- 1:35:50Speaker 4: more in-depth as far as player development. Everything is moving
- 1:35:57Speaker 4: towards that AI.
- 1:35:59Speaker 1: Yeah, that's sweet.
- 1:36:00Speaker 2: We were feeling that in the TV industry, too.
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: All right, we've got Lucas back in the house. All right, Lucas,
- 1:36:07Speaker 1: you want to chime in on this one, too? I'm
- 1:36:09Speaker 1: glad he's back in. I thought I lost him the
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: rest of the night with a couple more meaty topics
- 1:36:13Speaker 1: to throw this guy's way. All right, what are your
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: thoughts on Marlin's cost-cutting measure? They now no longer fire
- 1:36:22Speaker 1: the majority of their pro-scouting staff.
- 1:36:24Speaker 5: All right, I'm assuming that these are the same scouts
- 1:36:27Speaker 5: that got Yelich, Miggy, Fernandez, Mike Lowell. The list goes
- 1:36:36Speaker 5: on and on and on and on, and they're replacing
- 1:36:38Speaker 5: these guys with computers. That sounds like an absolutely terrible move,
- 1:36:45Speaker 5: and we'll definitely bite them in the butt because it's
- 1:36:49Speaker 5: just money ball coming into play because it's just logistics and.
- 1:36:55Speaker 5: Formulas and thinking that they can beat the, beat that system,
- 1:37:00Speaker 5: which has been the, the foundation of baseball since it
- 1:37:06Speaker 5: was founded. I don't see that coming into play. I mean, yeah,
- 1:37:11Speaker 5: of course it's a money thing, but Holy cow, you're
- 1:37:14Speaker 5: going to jeopardize an entire scout. Like that's not to me,
- 1:37:20Speaker 5: that's not the way you start a, making changes to
- 1:37:24Speaker 5: a team that hasn't had any success.
- 1:37:27Speaker 6: In the past decade.
- 1:37:30Speaker 5: Because you're making it happen.
- 1:37:36Speaker 6: With your scouts.
- 1:37:38Speaker 5: Maybe in the past three years you haven't had the
- 1:37:40Speaker 5: success that you've liked, but you're still getting, like, Alcantara.
- 1:37:46Speaker 5: I'm thinking that he was drafted by the Marlins as well.
- 1:37:49Speaker 6: I think it was a quarterback.
- 1:37:51Speaker 1: I think it was acquired in a trade of St. Louis,
- 1:37:54Speaker 1: if I remember right. Okay. We're talking about Sandy Alcantara. Yeah.
- 1:38:05Speaker 5: There's another pitcher for the Twins now that they didn't play.
- 1:38:09Speaker 1: You're probably thinking about Pablo Lopez?
- 1:38:11Speaker 5: Yeah, that's another pitcher that was also dealt away from
- 1:38:16Speaker 5: the Marlins. I can't remember if he was drafted by
- 1:38:20Speaker 5: them as well, but that could be another player that
- 1:38:23Speaker 5: was just taken away. And that was in the scouting system.
- 1:38:29Speaker 5: So it's... Yeah, you're just going to rely on a
- 1:38:33Speaker 5: computer to do all that work?
- 1:38:37Speaker 6: And John Carlos Stanton. How can I.
- 1:38:40Speaker 1: Leave that one out?
- 1:38:41Speaker 6: So, yeah. Good luck!
- 1:38:46Speaker 3: Lucas, I love all those people that you just said.
- 1:38:50Speaker 3: But how much success have all those people brought to
- 1:38:52Speaker 3: the Marlins? The Marlins haven't had success, so their scouting
- 1:38:55Speaker 3: department isn't that great. So maybe the best thing for
- 1:38:59Speaker 3: the Marlins is to get rid of them. Maybe, I mean,
- 1:39:02Speaker 3: I'm just saying, let's face.
- 1:39:06Speaker 1: It.
- 1:39:07Speaker 3: In this new era, AI is coming into play in
- 1:39:12Speaker 3: every single industry. It doesn't matter what industry you're in.
- 1:39:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:39:18Speaker 3: It's used to coach people. It's used to figure out. Obviously,
- 1:39:26Speaker 3: baseball is using it for scouting now. It's used for
- 1:39:30Speaker 3: what's wrong with your batting swing, what's wrong with this,
- 1:39:33Speaker 3: what's wrong with that. Now, am I saying that what
- 1:39:39Speaker 3: the Marlins did was right? No. Well, I don't know.
- 1:39:43Speaker 3: Maybe because they still didn't make the playoffs. They're not.
- 1:39:47Speaker 3: They didn't have success this year. They haven't had success
- 1:39:51Speaker 3: in years. It takes more than just a scout. It
- 1:39:57Speaker 3: takes players. It takes manager. It takes a lot of
- 1:40:02Speaker 3: things to go right. It takes the right GM. Because
- 1:40:05Speaker 3: even if the scouts are 100% on, is the GM
- 1:40:11Speaker 3: listening to the scouts in the first place and getting
- 1:40:14Speaker 3: them there? The scouting... Scouting is going to go out
- 1:40:17Speaker 3: and say, hey, this player in this maybe double A
- 1:40:20Speaker 3: is doing really well for a different team. They're really good.
- 1:40:24Speaker 3: We should go out and get them. If the GM
- 1:40:26Speaker 3: doesn't listen to them and go out and get them,
- 1:40:28Speaker 3: what difference does it make if the scout said they
- 1:40:30Speaker 3: were good or not? If you don't bring them onto
- 1:40:33Speaker 3: your team. I hate to say it. AI is here
- 1:40:38Speaker 3: to stay. It's not going away. We have to figure
- 1:40:41Speaker 3: out a way. to make it work within and make
- 1:40:46Speaker 3: it work successfully in every industry.
- 1:40:50Speaker 2: But the thing is that they're totally replacing them. That's
- 1:40:53Speaker 2: the thing.
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: Why?
- 1:40:54Speaker 2: Because that's the issue and that's the issue we have
- 1:40:57Speaker 2: in our field too. And that's terrifying. It's like, yeah,
- 1:41:02Speaker 2: work with it. I have no problem with working with it.
- 1:41:05Speaker 2: It's just not totally destroying everything and let that do
- 1:41:09Speaker 2: it all.
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. The Marlins have had 15 out
- 1:41:13Speaker 1: of the last 17 seasons that they've had losing records,
- 1:41:16Speaker 1: and they've won two championships, and they've only been in
- 1:41:20Speaker 1: the playoffs, I think, what, four times in their infamous history.
- 1:41:27Speaker 1: We'll leave it at that. All right, well, let's move
- 1:41:30Speaker 1: on to our final topic of the night, and it
- 1:41:31Speaker 1: is travel. I'd like to talk about this because I
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: know Robbie looks forward to it, so this candy and
- 1:41:37Speaker 1: that did so much. Monday, and I expect better out
- 1:41:39Speaker 1: of you even this Monday night because you guys are
- 1:41:41Speaker 1: building it up. And we'll go ahead and talk about
- 1:41:43Speaker 1: this as our topic of the night. Can't do it
- 1:41:45Speaker 1: on the video. Norway is digging the longest undersea road
- 1:41:49Speaker 1: tunnel on Earth. And it's a future road junction forming
- 1:41:54Speaker 1: under a 550-person island. So Norway's Rockfest Project is carving
- 1:42:04Speaker 1: a 47-kilometer tunnel beneath a fjord so drivers can cross
- 1:42:09Speaker 1: without waiting for a ferry. Crews are digging from three
- 1:42:14Speaker 1: directions at once, aiming to meet under the sea and
- 1:42:18Speaker 1: open the route by 2033. The depth makes headlines, but
- 1:42:23Speaker 1: the stranger detail is the layout, a full interchange buried
- 1:42:28Speaker 1: beneath a tiny island built so So an hour-long crossing
- 1:42:31Speaker 1: can shrink to a few minutes. If it works as planned,
- 1:42:35Speaker 1: one of the hardest parts of a coastline will start
- 1:42:38Speaker 1: to feel ordinary. So again, the tunnel will be 27
- 1:42:41Speaker 1: kilometers beneath the Norwegian fjord. Drivers will cross the fjord
- 1:42:47Speaker 1: without waiting for a ferry. The plan is just to
- 1:42:50Speaker 1: turn an hour road in just a few minutes. My goodness,
- 1:42:52Speaker 1: that isn't so bad. Workers are digging from three directions
- 1:42:58Speaker 1: to the underground. So the tunnels meet under the sea.
- 1:43:01Speaker 1: The robo set 250 meters below a tiny island of
- 1:43:07Speaker 1: 550 people. And there you have it. All right, Rob
- 1:43:10Speaker 1: and Candy, I'll let you guys talk about this topic.
- 1:43:13Speaker 1: Go ahead. I like it.
- 1:43:15Speaker 9: You know, anytime, anytime you could save time by doing
- 1:43:21Speaker 9: something like that. And, and that's just, it's still an
- 1:43:24Speaker 9: engineering marvel to me. It's, it was a marvel how
- 1:43:28Speaker 9: they got, Tunnels done back in the 20s and 30s.
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: The Lincoln Tunnel, the Holland Tunnel.
- 1:43:35Speaker 9: I mean, it's just amazing that they were able to
- 1:43:38Speaker 9: do it back then.
- 1:43:38Speaker 6: Now, forget it.
- 1:43:39Speaker 9: They can do it faster. And I like the idea.
- 1:43:44Speaker 9: You don't have to wait for a ferry. Puts the
- 1:43:47Speaker 9: hour to minutes. So I'm all for that. It's pretty cool.
- 1:43:51Speaker 3: 17 miles long. At its deepest, it will be 1,286
- 1:44:00Speaker 3: feet below sea level. Construction started in 2018. It was
- 1:44:05Speaker 3: halted in 2019 due to predicted cost overruns. It resumed
- 1:44:10Speaker 3: in late 2021. The tunnel is now slated for completion
- 1:44:15Speaker 3: in 2033 at a cost of approximately 25 billion Norwegian kroner,
- 1:44:24Speaker 3: which is about.
- 1:44:25Speaker 8: $ 2. 4 billion. The tunnel will significantly improve connectivity along the
- 1:44:34Speaker 8: Norwegian West Coast by creating a faster and more reliable link.
- 1:44:40Speaker 3: Kudos to them for doing that. Obviously, anytime you can
- 1:44:47Speaker 3: make someone's commute less time, less stressful, easier, because let's
- 1:44:53Speaker 3: face it, We are not a society that stays at
- 1:44:56Speaker 3: home and stays in one place. We get out and
- 1:44:59Speaker 3: we move. So do Norwegians. And I like the fact
- 1:45:05Speaker 3: that it goes underground because I like the fact that
- 1:45:08Speaker 3: it's not disturbing the natural resources outside. Because if you've
- 1:45:12Speaker 3: been to Norway, the fjords are beautiful. The mountains are beautiful.
- 1:45:17Speaker 3: So I can totally understand and like this.
- 1:45:21Speaker 1: Okay. Anybody else want to comment on that? Go ahead. Cliff?
- 1:45:28Speaker 2: That's absolutely amazing. They had the channel at first with
- 1:45:33Speaker 2: England and France, I believe, and now they're doing this,
- 1:45:38Speaker 2: and I hope they can do.
- 1:45:39Speaker 5: More of that.
- 1:45:40Speaker 2: I'm from New York, so I know the frustration, and
- 1:45:46Speaker 2: I know Rob over there knows all the frustration over that. So, hey,
- 1:45:50Speaker 2: have at it. They should be doing more of this. um, uh,
- 1:45:54Speaker 2: everywhere because, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's
- 1:45:58Speaker 2: just such a much, a much better, uh, way to
- 1:46:01Speaker 2: go and travel and make things a lot easier.
- 1:46:04Speaker 1: What about you, Lucas?
- 1:46:07Speaker 5: Uh, yeah, I mean, it, it was incredible that they
- 1:46:11Speaker 5: were able to make this, uh, tunnel and back, back when, uh,
- 1:46:15Speaker 5: the engineering and the, uh, construction, uh, wasn't like it
- 1:46:20Speaker 5: is right now. I mean, I'm still marveled at how
- 1:46:24Speaker 5: they're able to do that. That's kind of crazy. I
- 1:46:29Speaker 5: got a wire that's in my way. I'm sorry about that.
- 1:46:33Speaker 6: Yeah, that's... Some.
- 1:46:36Speaker 5: Of the construction pieces that they got going on is incredible.
- 1:46:42Speaker 6: And what they have in Norway is... Absolutely unbelievable.
- 1:46:45Speaker 5: And I need to make my way out there to
- 1:46:47Speaker 5: see it for myself. But from what I've seen is
- 1:46:50Speaker 5: absolutely beautiful.
- 1:46:52Speaker 3: It almost reminds me of the tunnel you guys have
- 1:46:58Speaker 3: in Detroit that takes you to Canada.
- 1:47:01Speaker 1: Yeah, the Windsor Tunnel. I like going on that. Now
- 1:47:06Speaker 1: you have to have a passport to do it. You
- 1:47:08Speaker 1: know what, Lucas, let me ask you a question. How
- 1:47:10Speaker 1: do you like the travel segment? Am I giving you
- 1:47:12Speaker 1: some ideas? You've got a long life to live at
- 1:47:15Speaker 1: all these different places.
- 1:47:20Speaker 5: I would love to take advantage of it for sure.
- 1:47:26Speaker 5: If I can find the time to make it happen,
- 1:47:28Speaker 5: that would be great.
- 1:47:29Speaker 6: I just got my passport. Let me ask you a question.
- 1:47:33Speaker 1: Do you like the travel channel or do you like
- 1:47:35Speaker 1: it when Cliff and I go off with each other?
- 1:47:38Speaker 5: You want the honest answer or you want the appropriate answer?
- 1:47:41Speaker 1: I don't care. Give me a call. I don't really care.
- 1:47:46Speaker 6: I like it when you and Cliff go at each other.
- 1:47:48Speaker 1: That's all right. I deliberately got under his skin because
- 1:47:53Speaker 1: I knew exactly what gets this guy's goat.
- 1:47:56Speaker 2: He wants clicks. He wants reading.
- 1:47:58Speaker 1: Listen, I'm an executive producer and I host this show.
- 1:48:03Speaker 1: I have to be, you know, I have credible topics
- 1:48:05Speaker 1: on here, but But I still think hockey has too
- 1:48:08Speaker 1: many damn teams. I'm not going to back away from that.
- 1:48:11Speaker 1: But I will say their playoffs are exciting to watch.
- 1:48:14Speaker 1: And when you have overtime, at least they get rid
- 1:48:17Speaker 1: of that five or ten minute one that they got.
- 1:48:19Speaker 1: and they and you go for two forever to decide
- 1:48:22Speaker 1: how come that part i'm okay all right katie got
- 1:48:24Speaker 1: a video you want to insert real quick.
- 1:48:26Speaker 3: Yeah let me go ahead we're gonna take you let
- 1:48:32Speaker 3: me see hopefully this is the one.
- 1:48:36Speaker 1: I do apologize.
- 1:48:37Speaker 5: I am editing for an 11 o'clock show right now.
- 1:48:41Speaker 12: No, it's just doing a VOSA and another VO that
- 1:48:51Speaker 12: I shot today.
- 1:48:52Speaker 2: So I wouldn't be here if it was a package.
- 1:48:55Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:48:56Speaker 2: That's that's that's that's.
- 1:48:57Speaker 1: Okay. And we're just glad to have you on, Lucas.
- 1:49:03Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You do what you gotta do. You
- 1:49:04Speaker 1: gotta look pretty smart.
- 1:49:05Speaker 4: Here we go.
- 1:49:06Speaker 1: Thank you for giving time. No problem. Go ahead.
- 1:49:09Speaker 8: Here we go.
- 1:49:11Speaker 1: You see that I look a little different? You're right.
- 1:49:14Speaker 1: No hat. But I'm still the Motor City Mad Mouth.
- 1:49:16Speaker 1: Why do I have no hat? Because it's raining. What
- 1:49:19Speaker 1: that means is I have the wet look. No, I'm
- 1:49:22Speaker 1: not Arthur Fonza, really. I won't play to... believe that
- 1:49:27Speaker 1: I will act that way, but the hands are working.
- 1:49:30Speaker 1: But these are happy days in Paris, France, as we
- 1:49:32Speaker 1: are over at the Eiffel Tower, inside the Eiffel Tower,
- 1:49:36Speaker 1: as high as I can go. Behind us, you see
- 1:49:38Speaker 1: all this beautiful water and all these bridges behind us.
- 1:49:41Speaker 1: And man, you cannot ask for a much prettier city
- 1:49:43Speaker 1: than you have with all these homes and all that.
- 1:49:46Speaker 1: So Unbelievable. We did make an inside here, and of
- 1:49:50Speaker 1: all the places I've ever been to, the Eiffel Tower
- 1:49:53Speaker 1: certainly takes the cake. It'll be pretty hard to top
- 1:49:55Speaker 1: this one. I don't know what we're going to see
- 1:49:58Speaker 1: over in Germany on Wednesday, but yes, no hat, people.
- 1:50:02Speaker 1: I like it once in a while. It kind of
- 1:50:05Speaker 1: changes things up a little bit. And obviously, I'm wearing
- 1:50:09Speaker 1: Fight Wax Incorporated. They are a sponsor for this trip here.
- 1:50:13Speaker 1: And they made it to the Eiffel Tower with the
- 1:50:15Speaker 1: South Florida Tribune. Have a little soccer field that we
- 1:50:18Speaker 1: saw here as a practice field. And all these beautiful homes.
- 1:50:21Speaker 1: And we saw a lot of the interior buildings, which
- 1:50:24Speaker 1: are very old. And this is a very, very historical place,
- 1:50:28Speaker 1: which is well preserved. So, what else can I tell you?
- 1:50:31Speaker 1: I've been to a lot of cities. Looking forward to
- 1:50:34Speaker 1: hitting a lot more. We're talking about being at the
- 1:50:38Speaker 1: top of the world in the eyes of Karen Carpenter
- 1:50:40Speaker 1: of the Carpenters. I feel like I am at the
- 1:50:43Speaker 1: top of the world here on this muggy, rainy day
- 1:50:47Speaker 1: in Paris, France, but it doesn't make any difference. We're
- 1:50:50Speaker 1: still doing what we love to do, and that's talk
- 1:50:53Speaker 1: and get into more travel. So a lot of our
- 1:50:55Speaker 1: travel followers or just followers will have something else that
- 1:50:57Speaker 1: they can do. If it's not on your bucket list,
- 1:51:00Speaker 1: do it. This is it, man. I took this big
- 1:51:03Speaker 1: cruise here knowing that Paris France was going to be
- 1:51:05Speaker 1: on it. The Eiffel Tower was certainly an attraction, and
- 1:51:09Speaker 1: the Eiffel Tower has definitely lived up to that for sure.
- 1:51:12Speaker 1: So anyways, we're going to be walking around a little
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: bit more, but Candy Ebling will have some pictures at
- 1:51:18Speaker 1: some point on our website. Check out her great work
- 1:51:21Speaker 1: on www.SouthFloridaTribune.com. She's the one who put it all together.
- 1:51:25Speaker 1: So again, www.SouthFloridaTribune.com. Scott Morgan Roth at The Type. at
- 1:51:31Speaker 1: the top of the Eiffel Tower from stumbling a little bit. Sure,
- 1:51:35Speaker 1: I'm in awe of the whole place. Tight top, it
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: don't make any... But I am in awe of the
- 1:51:40Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower. And hat or no hat, this is where
- 1:51:44Speaker 1: it's at. We will catch you the next time on
- 1:51:46Speaker 1: the South Florida Tribune Media Network. And meanwhile, it's been
- 1:51:52Speaker 1: great here so far. Looking forward to what our next
- 1:51:54Speaker 1: video opportunities are going to be like. Lots of great
- 1:51:57Speaker 1: video opportunities the rest of the trip. which will officially
- 1:52:00Speaker 1: end on Sunday. So again, lessons from the microphone, turning
- 1:52:03Speaker 1: into the enduring wisdom of visionary leaders can be found
- 1:52:09Speaker 1: on actually Amazon, Kindle, Barnes & Noble, as well as
- 1:52:12Speaker 1: the audio version as well. And I'll tell you what,
- 1:52:15Speaker 1: a lot of great people around me hope they're having
- 1:52:17Speaker 1: as good a time as I am. And it can
- 1:52:19Speaker 1: also be seen on audio book form as well. And
- 1:52:22Speaker 1: once again, if you haven't subscribed to the South Florida
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- 1:52:27Speaker 1: catch all our videos. Take care. We'll catch you the
- 1:52:29Speaker 1: next time. Bye now. You know, when I see that
- 1:52:34Speaker 1: video right now, I have to admit, it gives me
- 1:52:38Speaker 1: chills down my spine. It really does. And I say
- 1:52:41Speaker 1: that because, man, the Eiffel Tower is just cool. I'd
- 1:52:44Speaker 1: love to go back there if I had more time
- 1:52:46Speaker 1: and just spend a lot more time going to restaurants. But,
- 1:52:49Speaker 1: you know, we did get to the top of it.
- 1:52:50Speaker 1: We took pictures all the way around. It was unbelievable.
- 1:52:52Speaker 1: Great job, Candy. Great job. And that's a lot of
- 1:52:55Speaker 1: what you're going to be able to see with Rob
- 1:52:56Speaker 1: and Candy on Monday night. She'll put videos in there
- 1:52:59Speaker 1: from time to time, as I understand it, come up
- 1:53:01Speaker 1: with their own ideas. And I think they're doing a
- 1:53:04Speaker 1: wonderful job with it. That show on Monday has come
- 1:53:08Speaker 1: a long way, and I expect to go further. Rob
- 1:53:10Speaker 1: and Candy, anything you want to add real quickly before
- 1:53:13Speaker 1: we wrap this puppy up?
- 1:53:14Speaker 9: Real quick, I just want to say I'm having a
- 1:53:16Speaker 9: good time with the list that Candy is coming up with,
- 1:53:21Speaker 9: sending to me.
- 1:53:22Speaker 6: The lists are a lot of fun.
- 1:53:26Speaker 1: Well, she has reliable sources to get them to her.
- 1:53:29Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:53:30Speaker 1: Like me. I know. But that's okay. I only go
- 1:53:36Speaker 1: on with the video. It's your stuff between the two
- 1:53:39Speaker 1: of you. Go ahead, Rob. Sorry to interrupt.
- 1:53:41Speaker 9: Yeah, so it's a lot of fun. I love talking
- 1:53:44Speaker 9: travel with Candy.
- 1:53:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:53:46Speaker 3: Fastest 30-minute travel show there is out there. Don't miss it.
- 1:53:52Speaker 3: Monday nights, 7, 10, 7, 15. 30 minutes. Doesn't take
- 1:53:58Speaker 3: a long time. Make sure you subscribe. Turn on that
- 1:54:01Speaker 3: notification and you're notified every time we go live. We
- 1:54:04Speaker 3: do different lists. We talk about different things. We've talked
- 1:54:07Speaker 3: about anything from the different classes of airline tickets you
- 1:54:11Speaker 3: can buy to.
- 1:54:13Speaker 3: The cheapest vacation places you can go in the United States,
- 1:54:18Speaker 3: the luxury train rides. You just never know what we're
- 1:54:22Speaker 3: going to have. We're going to be talking about it,
- 1:54:25Speaker 3: but guaranteed, it's always about travel.
- 1:54:28Speaker 1: Great stuff. All right. Well, with that said, let's go
- 1:54:31Speaker 1: around the horn real quick. Go ahead, Leadoff. And once again,
- 1:54:35Speaker 1: Cliff celebrated his 31st anniversary with his wife. I want
- 1:54:39Speaker 1: to wish Cliff and his wife a happy anniversary, and
- 1:54:42Speaker 1: I'm glad he did not have a heart attack as
- 1:54:44Speaker 1: I was pounding the living hell out of him earlier.
- 1:54:47Speaker 2: You were pounding the living hell. You can keep thinking
- 1:54:49Speaker 2: that way.
- 1:54:50Speaker 6: Okay.
- 1:54:51Speaker 2: But I will say you were correctamundo about your life.
- 1:54:54Speaker 2: That was a very good travel thing you did there.
- 1:54:57Speaker 2: So I'm following up with that, the whole happy days thing.
- 1:55:01Speaker 2: I got to say correctamundo, so I'm happy about that. But, yeah. So, yes.
- 1:55:06Speaker 2: To my wife, happy anniversary, 31 years. I love you
- 1:55:09Speaker 2: so much. Um, and, uh, yeah, you've changed my life
- 1:55:13Speaker 2: for the better and I am where I am because
- 1:55:15Speaker 2: of you. Um, so yeah, um, you can reach me
- 1:55:19Speaker 2: on Facebook, cliff, Neil 55 on Instagram. Um, you want
- 1:55:23Speaker 2: to have a rant, uh, just, you saw what he did.
- 1:55:26Speaker 2: I'll rant like, like, uh, when Scott was my buttons,
- 1:55:30Speaker 2: I didn't want to do it for fun. Get yelled at.
- 1:55:32Speaker 2: I'm happy to do it with, with yourself.
- 1:55:34Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:55:35Speaker 2: That's where you can find me. And of course here
- 1:55:36Speaker 2: every Wednesday night and hear me rant and rave about
- 1:55:40Speaker 2: the things they like to rant and rant about.
- 1:55:42Speaker 1: Rants are pretty good. I say you're a brother from
- 1:55:44Speaker 1: another mother. That's good enough. Go ahead, Jason.
- 1:55:50Speaker 4: Alrighty. Always enjoy it. You can find me on Wednesday
- 1:55:54Speaker 4: nights from 9 to 11 on the Sports Exchange with
- 1:55:59Speaker 4: these incredible sports individuals. Always enjoy it. You can find
- 1:56:05Speaker 4: me on YouTube, ProcSportsEdge. And So excited to be on
- 1:56:11Speaker 4: here every week.
- 1:56:13Speaker 1: I'm glad to have you. Okay, Rob, go ahead.
- 1:56:15Speaker 9: Yeah, Monday nights, no limits on travel with Candy. Wednesday
- 1:56:21Speaker 9: nights here on the Sports Exchange. Everywhere else, NYMLB talk
- 1:56:28Speaker 9: on the Rounding Third Network now.
- 1:56:30Speaker 1: So I'm all over the place. Great stuff. The best
- 1:56:34Speaker 1: ones that do well in this business are the ones
- 1:56:35Speaker 1: that work the tail off, and you definitely do that, Rob. Okay,
- 1:56:38Speaker 1: go ahead. We'll get my... He was my find up
- 1:56:41Speaker 1: in Charlotte. Go ahead, buddy. I love having this guy on.
- 1:56:46Speaker 5: Scott, you should definitely rock the no hat whenever you
- 1:56:49Speaker 5: can because it's pretty good. It's pretty cool on you.
- 1:56:54Speaker 5: You should do that more often. Cliff, congratulations on 33 married.
- 1:56:58Speaker 4: 31.
- 1:56:59Speaker 3: 31.
- 1:56:59Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:56:59Speaker 6: Well, hopefully 33 in the future.
- 1:57:01Speaker 1: 33 is my lucky number.
- 1:57:08Speaker 6: Nice.
- 1:57:10Speaker 5: It's a dang good-looking number. But, yeah, you can find
- 1:57:13Speaker 5: me on Facebook at Lucas Nelson. Instagram is Lens Through Lucas. And, yeah,
- 1:57:20Speaker 5: I mean, just follow the stories I'm going through and
- 1:57:23Speaker 5: have some fun. And I'll see you guys here on
- 1:57:27Speaker 5: the Sports Exchange, 9 to 11 on Wednesdays.
- 1:57:30Speaker 1: There you go. I love having you on. All right, Candy,
- 1:57:32Speaker 1: take us home. We'll final station break.
- 1:57:35Speaker 3: First of all, I want to say happy anniversary, Cliff,
- 1:57:37Speaker 3: to you and your wife. 31 years is a definite milestone.
- 1:57:42Speaker 3: It's probably 30, but it's still a milestone. You don't
- 1:57:46Speaker 3: hear of that anymore lately. So congratulations, and I hope
- 1:57:51Speaker 3: you enjoy whatever celebration you two decide is right for
- 1:57:55Speaker 3: you guys. Thank you for sharing your evening with us.
- 1:57:59Speaker 3: We appreciate that. Back to South Florida Tribune Publishing Company.
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- 1:59:40Speaker 4: All right.
- 1:59:41Speaker 1: Well, that's it for this edition of Sports Exchange. On
- 1:59:43Speaker 1: behalf of Cliff Neal, Jason Pratt, Rob Moravka, Lucas Nelson,
- 1:59:49Speaker 1: Katie Ebeling, Scott Morgan. Thank you. Good night. See you
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