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Jeff Legwold on PHD 1-21-25 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lewald is our Broncos insider.
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  Speaker 2: Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five Pro Football The Insider.
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  Speaker 3: I've covered the league a little while.
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  Speaker 2: Jef Legwald too cute.
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  Speaker 3: Let's dial down the queue and just play football.
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  Speaker 2: Brought to you by the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers.
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  Speaker 2: Starting with a job and with a career IVDW Local
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  Speaker 2: sixty eight, It's Leggy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, on.
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  Speaker 2: Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five.
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  Speaker 4: The North did.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeff Jeff Legwald, spot to you by the International
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  Speaker 1: Brotherhood of Electrical Workers ive W Local sixty eight. Start
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  Speaker 1: with a job and with the career, Jeff, I figured
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  Speaker 1: this this week you'd be sitting by a beach with
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  Speaker 1: my time. He kicked up a little bit and some
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  Speaker 1: sand between your toes. What's going on you when you
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  Speaker 1: get when you got a little time there?
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  Speaker 5: Brother, draft never sleeps, baby.
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  Speaker 1: The draft? All right?
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  Speaker 3: I'm headed to Mobile, Mobile Alabama next week.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Senior Bowls next week? Is the East question?
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  Speaker 4: I've never done that experience? Am I missing out? In
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  Speaker 4: my life? I'd get invited to it. Not that I'm bitter.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not bitter.
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  Speaker 1: I've been there one time to cover it. I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was actually pretty awesome because the access is. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a pretty cool town. There's like one strip
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  Speaker 1: of restaurants stuff that I think is pretty neat. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: is there like a little bit of a convention. Scott's
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  Speaker 1: seeing himself on TV. By the way, they're they're replaying
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  Speaker 1: a game from nineteen eighty.
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  Speaker 6: Nine, Christmas Knicks, New Jersey Sin.
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  Speaker 1: Scott's getting very exciting every.
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  Speaker 6: Time they cut to the huddle. I'm up there.
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  Speaker 4: Try why is this game even on?
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  Speaker 6: I haven't just probably a classic game? I guess it
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  Speaker 6: went and overtime.
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  Speaker 1: Well they say they kind of ruined the entire replay
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  Speaker 1: because they say Nets win overtime thriller. That's actually on
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  Speaker 1: the crawl under the game as they're replaying the game,
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  Speaker 1: which takes away a little bit of the fun. So
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  Speaker 1: if you're headed to mobile, okay, who you looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to seeing? Who's interesting on the surface? When it applies
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  Speaker 1: for the Denver Broncos.
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  Speaker 5: Well, this year is so it's so different.
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  Speaker 3: I mean last year a lot of the guys in
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  Speaker 3: a really good quarterback class were there. Uh, this year
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  Speaker 3: will be a totally different vibe. I mean you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: have You're not going to have a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: top you know players on the field, uh this time.
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  Speaker 3: But you know there are some interesting uh guys the
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  Speaker 3: Broncos could be looking at. You know, I'm looking for
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  Speaker 3: any of those down the board running backs, you know,
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  Speaker 3: tight ends, inside linebackers, you know, just just all of
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  Speaker 3: those things. But that's always been a great uh. They
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  Speaker 3: always have the most draft prospects at that game.
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  Speaker 5: They always have.
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  Speaker 3: So you get a good feel and just your ability
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  Speaker 3: to see every single scout and personnel executive executive in
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  Speaker 3: the league is in one place. Uh, kind of like
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  Speaker 3: the So it's it's good foraging. I'll know more when
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  Speaker 3: I get back than I do not.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, we talk about running backs and tight
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  Speaker 4: ends all the time, and we talk about Camps Cattabu,
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  Speaker 4: We talked about Esston genty, We talked about Tyler Warren
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  Speaker 4: and in Cleveland. Outside of those names, give us a
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  Speaker 4: couple more names, both tight ends and running backs in
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  Speaker 4: the kind of second the third round range, maybe fourth
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  Speaker 4: round range even that you be intrigued in.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think scataboo Is is a guy
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  Speaker 3: you don't know where he's gonna fall on the board.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you don't know what people think of him
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  Speaker 3: right now, but you know, for you know, I like
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  Speaker 3: that North Carolina back. I'm Arion Hampton. I like him
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  Speaker 3: a lot. Iowa was Caleb Johnson. Uh, and we all
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  Speaker 3: saw last night how good a back Judkins is for
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State. I think those are good, physical, powerful guys
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  Speaker 3: who who could find a place in the Broncos offense.
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  Speaker 5: Any of those guys and you know, guys.
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  Speaker 6: Are nineteenth pick nineteenth pick guys though, are they?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think you know, gent is probably the
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  Speaker 3: only first round back for a lot of teams.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Some guys I've talked to, like Hampton from North Carolina
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  Speaker 3: a lot like in.
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  Speaker 5: A as in a real lot. So.
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  Speaker 3: But we just don't know where some gms are gonna
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  Speaker 3: when they really are faced with a first round pick,
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  Speaker 3: would they use it on a back these days? You
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  Speaker 3: know that's a tough call. But but those are the backs,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in days one and two. I think, really, Scataboo,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know where he's going to fall. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I've had some people tell me he's a fourth. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Some people tell me he's a late three. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's just one of those things of what
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  Speaker 3: you like. But he certainly is one of the backs
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  Speaker 3: on the board who has most of the joker tendencies
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  Speaker 3: Peyton talks a lot about, so I will look at
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  Speaker 3: him with that in mind as well.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would if I would be I'm
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  Speaker 1: running out to buy my Skataboo jersey. If that's the case,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be buying my first Broncos jersey of all time
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  Speaker 1: that's the case. I'm not even gonna push it that hard.
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  Speaker 1: I just really like him, Jeff, I really like him,
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  Speaker 1: and if that's the right fit for them, that would
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  Speaker 1: make me pumped. I'm not gonna like say, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta do this, you gotta do that. I just
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  Speaker 1: think he'd be a great fit if he's available on
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  Speaker 1: the right spot.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just don't know. T Mak.
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  Speaker 3: My only concern with what I call impact runners like him,
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  Speaker 3: Like he runs to contact in college. If you do
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  Speaker 3: that in the NFL, it is not a very successful
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  Speaker 3: and long life.
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  Speaker 5: That would be my concern with him as a prospect.
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  Speaker 3: If you're going to run to contact that much, that
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  Speaker 3: that's But as a receiver and all.
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  Speaker 5: Of those things, I think there are ways.
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  Speaker 3: To make him a dynamic player with the right play caller,
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  Speaker 3: but he will not be this punishing runner in the league.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think, Hey.
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  Speaker 1: We saw them move on from Kawika, which we probably
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't have been that surprised by, now that I think
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  Speaker 1: about it and look at it, we probably should have
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  Speaker 1: sawen that coming.
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  Speaker 3: Now, that was a package deal when he came in. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think they'd like to promote Chris Banjo in some way.
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  Speaker 3: So is it one slot or two slots? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's the question.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's where I was kind of kind of go
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  Speaker 1: Do you anticipate any other coaching significant even minor coaching
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  Speaker 1: changes on this staff?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I didn't beyond that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean a few days ago when I was out there,
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  Speaker 3: I thought could Witko would be the only one. But well,
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  Speaker 3: I think the senior ball is always a good that's
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  Speaker 3: the job hunting central plaza for assistant coaches sometimes, so
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  Speaker 3: I'll have a better feel if if there are any rumblings.
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  Speaker 3: But there really isn't much rumbling going on right now
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  Speaker 3: because I think all of these head coaching candidates are
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  Speaker 3: trying to assemble staffs. So when some of that dust
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  Speaker 3: settles we'll know a little more.
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  Speaker 4: Probably take me back in time. After the Chiefs game,
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  Speaker 4: they give up the block field goal, Mike west Off retires,
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  Speaker 4: and we've all connected the dots around here, like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: Mike west Off is really Sean Payton's guy. It wasn't
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  Speaker 4: Ben kot Weeka. Well, he retires with health concerns. But
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  Speaker 4: it certainly was interesting timing after that Chiefs game. Why
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  Speaker 4: did why did Mike west Off retire? Like, like, why
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  Speaker 4: was it him rather than them firing benkot week at
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  Speaker 4: at that time? If Mike west Off was really Sean
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  Speaker 4: Payton's guy the whole way through.
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  Speaker 3: Well time and again you know you trust people, aren't,
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  Speaker 3: you know, scringing your lawn? But I've been told those
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  Speaker 3: were genuine health concerns with west Off, like they couldn't
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  Speaker 3: go any longer.
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  Speaker 4: It's just it was weird timing, you know.
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean, and who's to say the preparation, right,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the two weeks before that, you know, when
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  Speaker 3: he was experiencing difficulty were affected, you know, would they
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  Speaker 3: have made the the positional move on the field, the
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  Speaker 3: flip flop of pert and ForSight?
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  Speaker 5: Would they have done that two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Sooner if he was completely healthy, but because they had
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  Speaker 3: discussed all of those things leading up to the Chiefs game.
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  Speaker 3: So but I've been told it was genuine health concerns,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, the block field goal was kind of
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  Speaker 3: in the in the mix of it all and was
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  Speaker 3: probably even west off. I was told in some ways saying, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: enough's enough, you know, but we had like the worst
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  Speaker 3: special teams play of the year, and and I can't
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  Speaker 3: see without blurred vision, so I you know.
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  Speaker 5: This is it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing about that Kansas City game that would
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  Speaker 1: help your health, right, Like, it's only gonna if you're.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if you're a special teams coach just living
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  Speaker 3: and dying with imagine the fourteen plays you get in
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  Speaker 3: a game that that one's just gonna that's going to
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  Speaker 3: drag you down a.
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  Speaker 1: Bit, and the piling on afterwards too, by everybody that
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  Speaker 1: was well, it was me man is Bill Belichick, It
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  Speaker 1: was ESPN running.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, you know, the other teams had made that
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  Speaker 3: clear that was gonna be a problem. He had been
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  Speaker 3: bowled over. Now that that guy gets bowled over a
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  Speaker 3: lot in in you know, field goals and extra points,
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  Speaker 3: that that position is it ain't fun out there.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, they they had discussed in house where.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to have to do something and they and
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  Speaker 3: they sort of just kept putting it off until they
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  Speaker 3: couldn't anymore.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, nineteen, what what what position do you think they're
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  Speaker 6: gonna look for first? And it will be a position
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  Speaker 6: or will be a best available player on the board
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  Speaker 6: if somebody they like or gone, it.
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  Speaker 3: Better be best available player, because that's that's how you
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  Speaker 3: should live, you know, as much as possible. Uh, your
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  Speaker 3: issue this year is it's it. You know, there's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be between dependently you talk to between fifteen and twenty
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  Speaker 3: two true first round grade, so you're right at the
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  Speaker 3: edge of of your first round grade. So I think
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  Speaker 3: their big question is do you take a guy who
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  Speaker 3: have graded there or dip out and get an extra
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  Speaker 3: second rounder or something? You know, but that'll be there
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  Speaker 3: the position they face. I think the good teams stay
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  Speaker 3: and take a player because you you know, if you've
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  Speaker 3: done your grading right, there's gonna be somebody there worth
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  Speaker 3: that pick for sure.
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  Speaker 5: And they need talent, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I still think they're in that stage where you look
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  Speaker 3: at the elite and you look at them and there's
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  Speaker 3: still a gap, and it was proven, you know, head
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  Speaker 3: to head this year that there is a gap between
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  Speaker 3: them and the best.
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  Speaker 5: So they need talent.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they'll probably be an inside linebacker there worthy,
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  Speaker 3: maybe a safety worthy, you know, definitely. It's you know
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  Speaker 3: where they come down on the running backs. You know
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  Speaker 3: that that would be a question there too. But Sean
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  Speaker 3: Payton has proven he will use the first round pick
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  Speaker 3: for a guy graded below that pick because he did
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  Speaker 3: it in bon Nix, you know, and it worked out
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  Speaker 3: pretty good in their mind.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking at my favorite website, which is NFL
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  Speaker 1: Mock Draft Database dot com.
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  Speaker 5: Fright, your tongue.
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  Speaker 1: I love this website.
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  Speaker 5: Your tongue.
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  Speaker 1: It's an aggregator. Just here's here's what I do.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm gonna hang out, but I'm gonna get on.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Let me give you three names that they've got, Polston Lovel,
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  Speaker 1: Houlston Loveland, Luther Burden, and Tyler Warren right now, aggregated
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  Speaker 1: are kind of the three favorites in the barn there.
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  Speaker 1: Talk to us about Coulson Loveland and Luther Burden. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know anything about either, so maybe you give us
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  Speaker 1: a little skinny on those two dudes.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean Loveland is just he's a giant.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that guy is big, and he's a quality
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  Speaker 3: receiver and you know, again it's tight end. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I think I have a hard time believe in Warren
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  Speaker 3: will be there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think his skill set is just.
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  Speaker 3: Is uh just too vast. But if they got if
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  Speaker 3: he was there, that's a brainer to me. But anyway,
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  Speaker 3: but Loveland, Loveland's just more of a straight up tight end.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't have the sort of the variety Warren does
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  Speaker 3: and that's the difference. And he's a little but he's blocker, yes,
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  Speaker 3: oh yeah, I mean he's he's the he's your hybrid,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Peyton needs in the offense. You can play,
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  Speaker 3: you can play a two tight end set and line
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  Speaker 3: him up anywhere in it, you know, and succeed and
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  Speaker 3: win matchups. And they just got to win more matchups
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  Speaker 3: between the numbers. I mean, the defenses are just owning
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  Speaker 3: them between the numbers because they get no production from
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  Speaker 3: the tight end position. And they're running backs you know,
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  Speaker 3: don't even average seven yards of catch. So I mean
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  Speaker 3: it's you know, they need production between the numbers.
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  Speaker 4: I might be out on an island on this one.
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  Speaker 4: But I think early on I like Colson Lovelin more
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  Speaker 4: than Tyler Warren. I think I do. I love what
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  Speaker 4: he does in line of scrimmage. I mean, nobody's gonna
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  Speaker 4: confuse him for a dominating blocking tight end. But for
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  Speaker 4: today's tight ends, he's about as well round as you get.
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  Speaker 4: But there is another kid that I'm intrigued your thoughts on,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm john to blank on his name, but the
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  Speaker 4: kid out of Bowling Green. He's a bit of a
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  Speaker 4: Trey McBride type of player. He's the other tight end
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  Speaker 4: that's been tossed in that conversation with those three guys.
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  Speaker 4: What's his name, Harold?
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  Speaker 3: Harold?
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  Speaker 4: Harold, Yeah, Yeah, What do you know about that guy?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean he's another he's not quite as big
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  Speaker 3: as the other two guys. He I bet he weighs
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  Speaker 3: two thirty five or so at the combine. Uh, so,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a little light, you know, a little more
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  Speaker 3: of a receiver, straight up receiver type. Maybe not quite
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  Speaker 3: the inline guy as as Loveland is, but we'll definitely
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  Speaker 3: contribute right away for somebody as a receiver. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: and he's another guy where you get a really big
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  Speaker 3: gap as to where he fits. Some people are will
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  Speaker 3: tell me, oh, yeah, he's a top seventy player, and
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  Speaker 3: then other people will tell me, oh, I got him,
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  Speaker 3: you know, one thirty five on the board. So he
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  Speaker 3: there's a big difference of opinion on what people think
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  Speaker 3: of him right now because I think he's sort of
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  Speaker 3: just a receiver or perceived that way.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, there's a couple of wide receivers that are
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  Speaker 1: kind of circling around where the rongs are drafting at
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  Speaker 1: twenty by the way, not nineteen, but just you know,
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  Speaker 1: closel Luther Burden from Missouri and help me with the
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  Speaker 1: NAG because I'm Egbuka like Buka and Buka Buka.
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  Speaker 4: He's just watching.
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  Speaker 3: All you had to do was watch a game last night.
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  Speaker 3: That guy is ready to go an NFL receiver.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Burden or Agbuka? Which one you like better?
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  Speaker 1: What about these two guys that have your interest?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think Buka's a little bigger, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know that Burden will measure in at six feet
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  Speaker 3: when all of a sudden and done so.
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  Speaker 5: But he's real physical, you know.
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  Speaker 3: He's he'll be like, I bet he's five to eleven
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  Speaker 3: or five ten and seven Ace and like two oh
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  Speaker 3: five Burden, So you know that's a that's a powerful
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  Speaker 3: guy who can kind of line up everywhere.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, I, personally, in all.
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  Speaker 3: The years I've been doing the draft, I always think
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  Speaker 3: there's a little bit of an sec multiplier for guys.
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  Speaker 3: They come in a little more ready to play than
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  Speaker 3: everybody else does just because of the level of people
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  Speaker 3: they face and kind of the NFL style of their schemes,
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  Speaker 3: so it gives them an advantage. But Buka, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you just make a list of the guys who've played
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  Speaker 3: wide receiver at Ohio State, and he's the all time
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  Speaker 3: leader in catches, so amazing.
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  Speaker 5: That's that's production.
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  Speaker 3: And I will tell you guys who've played at Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State said have told me he was the guy who
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  Speaker 3: organizes the extra work for the receivers. He's the guy
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  Speaker 3: who gets them and takes them over to the jugs machine.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 3: He he kind of learned it from Harrison and he
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  Speaker 3: kind of took it forward as his deal.
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  Speaker 5: You know, in his last year.
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  Speaker 1: He's a leader guy. Yeah, God, just tight ender a
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  Speaker 1: guy like him, because there are so many good tight
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  Speaker 1: ends later in the draft, and I get it how
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  Speaker 1: special Tyler Warren is and the whole thing, but I
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  Speaker 1: just see the value of these these wide receivers these days.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, a GM will tell you d Mac
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  Speaker 3: there's tons of wide receivers now, you know. That's that's
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  Speaker 3: every year. It's the deepest position on the board, just because.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody, everybody, everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I get the appeal of the top four wide
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  Speaker 4: receivers in the draft, but after that, for me personally,
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: I'm like, give me a fourth rounder.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, because I have a Tyler.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: That's that's how people in the NFL thing, you know,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: after the after your top tier, whatever team you talk
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: to you, whatever their top tier is, when they get
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: beyond that, they think the cluster is like you can
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: get a fourth round grade and the sixth round at
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: receiver because there's so many. And that's I think that's
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: what they bank on sometimes.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough then, just and it's today. It's today.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Not holding anybody do anything. It's today. If you had
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: to choose between Ibuca and Colson Loveland, who you picking,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I'll do you Loveland Loveland.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: JEF I would think in their offense they would take
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: Loveland because Uh, he's made it a point already. He
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: said like two times since the since the season ended,
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: all the years they had great offenses in New Orleans
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: wide receiver, he said it over and over again. So
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: sometimes he tips his hand a little bit on what
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: he thinks of all this. But they got to have
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: a tight end at some point.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: This offense won't be what he wants it to be
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: without the joker running back and a tight end who
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: can impact a nickel defenses because people they do not
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: punish people for playing nickel on early downs, and that's
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: been the biggest hole in their offense other than the
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: three and outs. But they do not punish like you
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: can play nickel against them on first down and get
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: away with it, and people are doing it over and
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: over and the more they make bo Nicks push the
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: ball outside the numbers, the more his accuracy waivers. And
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: to repair both of those things, they got to have
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: a tight end or a running back who can really
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: challenge in the passing game.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: You got sold and I think Colson Lovelin will be there.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: This is probably really good.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: No One thing though. If you just look at the
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: stats between Tyler Warren and Colson Loveland the one thing
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: that is interesting in terms of the joker role in particular,
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Tyler Warren's got two hundred and eighteen yards on the ground, Karen.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: He's a legit, like you could hand him the ball
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: and he's a runner.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, he's a guy you said a while ago,
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: no doubt if he's around at twenty you take don't
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: even for me.
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  Speaker 5: I just like versatile.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of versatile in today's because it
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: saves you roster spots. Like he can legitimately throw the ball.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: He's not a quarterback, but he's not. He's a guy
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: who was recruited as a quarter He's that good a thrower,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: and you know, he just offers a lot of things
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: in today's game.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Well the only I mean, it sounds like a no
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: brainer of Tyler Warren's there, but I don't.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: Think it will be.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: You know, you got too many, too many jet jockeys
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: call and plays, you know, who want guys like him,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: and you know the board.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: Look at all we go.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: That's what no, Jeff, that's exactly defensive.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: A defensive player isn't picked last April, you know, until
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Bauers is off the board.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when I'm looking at some things. Now,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I've seen Tyler Warren go to the Dolphins. I've seen
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: him go to the This is at thirteen fourteen. Broncos
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: aren't gonna move up, right, I mean they're not moving up.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: They're not gonna they need picks.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're not gonna move up.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: So again, look look what happens on draft day.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, the draft was in the teens last year.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Before a defensive player comes off the board.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Right right right, right, right right right. So Tyler Warren's
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: not gonna be there. I see what you're saying. You're
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: you're right, he's not gonna be there. He's specially, but
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna be there, you know, if he is fine.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: Sure, no one thought Bauer is going to be there
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: at thirteen last year, either, did they?
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: No, he did fall.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I never I never saw six quarterbacks coming down the pipe.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I had never seen it before. No one else had
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: ever seen it before either.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: But but brock Bouwer certainly wasn't going later than like
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen either, you know what I'm saying. Like
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: he did fall, but he wasn't going lower than that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: The Broncos are sitting at twenty. I mean, they just
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: ain't gonna happen, so but that's good enough. Hey, great conversation, Jeff,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. We'll talk to you next week.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: They