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Heated & Tweeted: RHOC Recap with Alexis Bellino · Reality with The King

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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Speaker 2: Oh, rain drops, listen.
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Speaker 1: I know a lot of you listen to the audio
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Speaker 1: podcast recaps between Alexis and I, but I think you
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Speaker 1: guys should also watch our YouTube because listen on my
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Speaker 1: YouTube channel, I upload the video.
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Speaker 2: My girl Alexis is in full aluminum foil.
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Speaker 3: And Carlos Carlos. It's called Reality with the King for
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Speaker 3: one reason. It's Reality with the King, Okay, because if
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Speaker 3: we can only recap the finale in my foils, then
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Speaker 3: we gotta do it because we're not missing the finale.
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Speaker 3: Holy crap. Let's just say. But like people, you know,
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Speaker 3: you gotta like me with foils or without, okay, or
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Speaker 3: you can hate me. It's fine either way.
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Speaker 2: Listen. I like you, I love you. Oil or no foil.
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Speaker 1: We have to get into this episode, and alexis one
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Speaker 1: thing by you and I we absolutely reefed the us
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Speaker 1: honey to just run the gamut of trying to like
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Speaker 1: go step by step.
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Speaker 2: We just have to get right into it. This episode.
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Speaker 1: Left me emotionally drained, dazed, and confused.
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Speaker 2: And I don't even smoke marijuana.
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's just like tap right into it. So Gretchen, listen,
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Speaker 1: tear my Gretchen aside to make up chat GP gave
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Speaker 1: them a friendship contract, right, they try to have a
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Speaker 1: memorandum for slave like we're gonna move forward. And then
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Speaker 1: Gina decides at the group dinner to bring up the
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Speaker 1: fact that Gretchen has allegedly been liking all of these
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Speaker 1: polls in regards to the hatred towards the lgpt Q
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Speaker 1: plus community. And rightfully so Heather, who look, I know
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Speaker 1: I giving Heather a hard time being a bad friend,
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Speaker 1: but one thing's for certain, Heather is a great mom,
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Speaker 1: and that's one thing that we would.
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Speaker 2: Not take away from her. She's a great mother.
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Speaker 1: So these allegations of Gretchen liking these hateful tweets became
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Speaker 1: the topic of conversation and the moment Gretchen was faced
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Speaker 1: with it. Listen, you don't have to be producer. You
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Speaker 1: don't have to be a body language expert.
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Speaker 2: Bath on human nature.
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Speaker 1: Sure, gret Chance reaction made me feel like she's guilty.
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Speaker 1: Alexis talking through your feelings about that. You know these
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Speaker 1: these these tweets Gretchen's response to it, and what do
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Speaker 1: you believe?
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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I was so drained from it too,
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Speaker 3: And I think it's a good thing I wasn't filming
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Speaker 3: that scene with those ladies because if that had been
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Speaker 3: information that had been dropped on me, I think Heather
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Speaker 3: handled it with more poise than I would have handled
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Speaker 3: it because of my child being LGBTQ plus so I
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Speaker 3: I mean, I had so many gamuts of emotions running
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Speaker 3: through me, just like what you just described about this
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Speaker 3: whole episode. But first of all, I agree with you
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Speaker 3: on Gretchen's response, like I think people shut down like
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Speaker 3: that when they don't know how to get out of
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Speaker 3: the hole, like like she she didn't act like like
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Speaker 3: for I mean, I put myself in those shoes, and
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Speaker 3: it's like if some information was being that detrimental was
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Speaker 3: being mentioned about me or said about my character and
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Speaker 3: about who I am. I would have leapt up really
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Speaker 3: fast and been like, you guys, this is such bull cry.
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Speaker 3: I would have been on the phone with you know,
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Speaker 3: I don't know, my attorney trying to figure out how
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Speaker 3: why is this happening. I would ask all the people
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Speaker 3: I would know, like, how did this happen? If I
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Speaker 3: didn't do it? If I didn't do it. So her
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Speaker 3: non responsiveness or just calmness to it was almost like
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Speaker 3: a show for the camera, like, Okay, I'm not going
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Speaker 3: to get all riled, I'm going to be calm, col
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Speaker 3: and collected. So yeah, it was off. It was off
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Speaker 3: to me. But here's the thing, Spencer, and you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm Datelight MBC right and on dateline shows. This is
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Speaker 3: the only reason I kind of tell myself, maybe there's
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Speaker 3: more to this story. On Datelight EMBAC NBC, they always
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Speaker 3: have the they always talk about how people handle death differently,
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Speaker 3: like someone might cry and rant and rave when they
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Speaker 3: find out someone just died, someone might pass out, and
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Speaker 3: someone might just kind of go into shock or none.
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Speaker 3: So when I put my into those three categories, okay,
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Speaker 3: Gretchen kind of acted like she was just like a
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Speaker 3: little shocked. I think it was the more that went
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Speaker 3: on with the scene that made me feel like no,
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Speaker 3: because it should have set in by some point of that,
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Speaker 3: and it never set in with her, and she never
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Speaker 3: really had a reaction until the end when they're in
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Speaker 3: the van and she's screaming and acting like she's crying.
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Speaker 3: But Carlos, did you know, not one tear fell? She
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Speaker 3: was acting like, make this make sense, it's not me,
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Speaker 3: and it's like she was acting, well, there's not one tier.
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Speaker 3: So that also kind of took me for a loop
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Speaker 3: a little.
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Speaker 1: No, it took me for a loop a lot because
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Speaker 1: for me, it was sort of like if I'm being
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Speaker 1: accused of something Alexis Jansen that inherently I just do
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Speaker 1: not believe.
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Speaker 2: Right if someone said, Carlos.
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Speaker 1: You you know you're racist against you know, non black people,
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah, I'm would be like, that's a I
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Speaker 1: would literally say like, that's a motherfucking lie, Like I
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Speaker 1: would go crazy, like right, like the.
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Speaker 3: Word just came into my mouth for you. I knew
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Speaker 3: you were gonna say MF. I was like, Carlos King
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Speaker 3: would say, that's an any fing lie, because you know,
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Speaker 3: I cussed last episode. I'm not going to cuss this
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Speaker 3: episode because I promise. I mean, I knew those words
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Speaker 3: were going to be your words. I knew that.
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Speaker 1: There's no way I'm not listen if I'm being accused
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Speaker 1: at a setting.
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Speaker 2: Let let's have a real conversation.
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Speaker 1: I'm not only in front of these of people who
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Speaker 1: I consider to be friends, not all of them, but
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Speaker 1: let's say five out of the six, right on top
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Speaker 1: of my reputation being on the line, because there's actual
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Speaker 1: there's actually cameras present. I saw Gretchen have more anger
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Speaker 1: towards Katie Janella than being accused of liking hateful tweets
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Speaker 1: towards my community. It doesn't make any sense she had
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Speaker 1: this horrific reaction about and.
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Speaker 2: Crying with tears. I might add with tears her okay, thank.
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Speaker 1: You with Lexus Jansen when Tamara confronted her in New
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Speaker 1: Orleans about saying that she was drugged by Tamra, I
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Speaker 1: never said it. I never said it. Katie's a liar.
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Speaker 1: I never said it. These women are saying you like
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Speaker 1: these tweets, Well, I just don't know. I will never
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Speaker 1: do such a thing.
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Speaker 2: It's not like it's not me, it's not me.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I would be screaming like I wanted to scream.
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Speaker 3: I was like, I was kind of putting myself in
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Speaker 3: Grutchen's shoes, and I'm like, if somebody was accusing me
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Speaker 3: of something that was so un just damaging and every
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Speaker 3: aspect of your life and your character and show it,
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Speaker 3: like I would be screaming and pleading and going, you guys,
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Speaker 3: to the bottom of it. I will, I promise you,
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Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I don't I got to figure
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Speaker 3: it out. I would be crying. I would be standing
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Speaker 3: on the table trying to get through to my girlfriends
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Speaker 3: like and and you know what's funny, Carlos is not
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Speaker 3: one of them believed her either. Not one of the
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Speaker 3: girls said, you know, guys, we should listen at the moment.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I know they did the next day in
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Speaker 3: the van leaving for the airport, but nobody said, okay, guys,
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Speaker 3: let's just we should give grutch On the benefit of
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Speaker 3: the doubt. They all were like, what the heck, and
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Speaker 3: why aren't you reacting? Like why aren't you frozen? And
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Speaker 3: then she has to go and coll Slade.
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Speaker 2: Which which which look look for me. I'm I'm I'm
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Speaker 2: sick of it. I'm sick of it.
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Speaker 1: I have never in my years of producing reality television
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Speaker 1: had a female cast member rely solely on their partner, husband, boyfriend,
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Speaker 1: benefactor telling them what to do in the situations amongst women.
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Speaker 2: I have never seen it. It's scary to.
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Speaker 1: Watch, and I'm gonna go out on a limb and
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Speaker 1: say that she well, let me let me let me
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Speaker 1: get to your Before I get to that, let me
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Speaker 1: let me remind a little bit what you said too
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Speaker 1: about these women.
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Speaker 2: On having her back.
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Speaker 1: Even when Jen was like, look, you are this Christian
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Speaker 1: woman that you know bysically do you and have.
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Speaker 2: The cut her off?
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Speaker 1: And look, I felt that I would love to get
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Speaker 1: your pob because obviously you're a Christian and obviously you've
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Speaker 1: been very open about your faith.
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Speaker 2: I felt that Jin was trying to help Gretchen maybe.
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Speaker 3: Explain own that, own it.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Alexis, I felt like she
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Speaker 1: was trying to but have a cut that her ass
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Speaker 1: off and said, no, bitch, we're not doing that.
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Speaker 2: Did you think Jen was trying to help her but
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Speaker 2: in the end and hurt her eventually?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think that I think Jen made a very
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Speaker 3: valid point because you know faith does it is your
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Speaker 3: it should be ever your whole, like like that is
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Speaker 3: the basis of who you are. Your faith right, something
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Speaker 3: bigger than you, that's what you believe. I know, there's
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Speaker 3: tons of religions out there. Yes, I am Christian. I
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Speaker 3: think Jen was trying to help her. I think she
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Speaker 3: was also saying, look, just own it. If this is
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Speaker 3: if this is what you thought, just own it because
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Speaker 3: you can. You can explain it to us and try
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Speaker 3: to make it make sense for us, but own it first.
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Speaker 3: And if it was your faith that puts you to
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Speaker 3: where you're saying, you know, hate or liking hate rhetoric,
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Speaker 3: then own it and let's let's move past it. Because
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Speaker 3: this is what the women don't want is to move
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Speaker 3: forward and lies because of like what just happened with
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Speaker 3: the whole beginning of the season with Katie. They don't
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Speaker 3: want to move forward with lies. They want the truth
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Speaker 3: to be told and then let's move on with the
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Speaker 3: truth and sit in the truth and figure it out
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Speaker 3: from there. So I think that Gretchen definitely could have
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Speaker 3: owned it at that moment. I think it was a
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Speaker 3: very valid point that maybe her faith is what you know,
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Speaker 3: I don't know what that word is. I'm trying to
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Speaker 3: think of right now. But helped her decides or made
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Speaker 3: her decide she wanted to like these Instagram accounts or
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Speaker 3: even follow them. That's the other point of this, Carlosa.
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Speaker 3: She was following them, not just liking something. It was
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Speaker 3: like she was following these accounts, which is brought up later,
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Speaker 3: you know, a little bit further down the scene. So yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's I wish that, you know, she would have just
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Speaker 3: owned it. I don't think she should have called her
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Speaker 3: fiance at the moment. I think that she should have
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Speaker 3: had a bigger reaction. So all of that, But at
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Speaker 3: the same time, I still felt really icky, didn't you like,
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Speaker 3: I still felt I kind of felt lot for her
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Speaker 3: almost because of it, but I and I felt it
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Speaker 3: felt icky.
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Speaker 2: No, No, it doesn't fault Ikey.
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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm gonna be completely honest. I didn't feel bad
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Speaker 1: for Gretchen at all, because I do believe she liked
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Speaker 1: those tweets. And we'll get we'll get to we'll get
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Speaker 1: to what happened afterwards. But before we get to that,
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Speaker 1: I know the audience is somewhat confused because we weren't
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Speaker 1: able to really and fully see exactly what the the tweets.
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Speaker 2: Were that she liked.
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Speaker 1: So what I want to do as a journalist, Hey Portia,
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Speaker 1: is to at least allow my audience to understand what
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Speaker 1: she was being accused of, because there is a thread
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Speaker 1: that is on Twitter that Tama reposted that says, this
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Speaker 1: is a thread exposing Gretchen Rossi's problematic use racism, homophobia, transphobia,
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Speaker 1: COVID miss or COVID misinformation, anti abortion.
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Speaker 2: Stances and more so, these.
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Speaker 1: Are some of the things that Gretchen is a cues
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Speaker 1: of liking, whether it's abortion, homophobic post suggesting what we
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Speaker 1: talked about last week ho homosexuality is linked to pedophilia.
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Speaker 1: She allegedly liked that. She allegedly liked posts dating back
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Speaker 1: to sorts of things.
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Speaker 2: Now, what we.
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Speaker 1: Did learn when Gretchen called Slade once again, I thought
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Speaker 1: it was produced because in my opinion, I think Gretchen
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Speaker 1: gab s Lada heads up, texting how I'm going to
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Speaker 1: call you? This is what's going on. He was able
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Speaker 1: to sort of like defend her right. You don't have
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Speaker 1: to defend your stance. You know who you are. And
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Tamra set of Gates Lur.
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Speaker 1: When you type in Tamra Gatesler, there's something comes up.
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Speaker 1: When you type in your name in Gates Blert, nothing
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Speaker 1: comes up. So look, that was Slade's way of defending
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Speaker 1: her sort of blase reaction to this.
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Speaker 3: By the way, by the way, how did Slade have
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Speaker 3: if if Gretchen really hadn't prepared him, how did producer
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Speaker 3: Slade have all of that information just ready to go.
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Speaker 3: Not like if my husband had just called me and said, Alexis,
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Speaker 3: you're not gonna believe that they just accused me of
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Speaker 3: on camera. I'm gonna be like, oh my gosh, I'm
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Speaker 3: not gonna have this like a whole thing ready to
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Speaker 3: go for something you just found out about, your dumb
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Speaker 3: out of You're like, well them, like, don't even listen
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Speaker 3: to them. You know better than that. That's not who
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Speaker 3: we are. I'm not gonna have a laundry list of
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Speaker 3: Oh but do this and then you can google tamer
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Speaker 3: and see her name and do It's just it all
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Speaker 3: was very produced and very already there, you know what
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Speaker 3: I mean, Like the information was already there in Slade's pocket.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't He's not that fast on his feet. Okay,
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Speaker 3: he's not gonna think about the Gosler all of a
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Speaker 3: sudden when this all just came up and it's just
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Speaker 3: like thrown at him at like the our time zone different,
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Speaker 3: Like how who even knows what time of the day
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Speaker 3: it was for Slade that she just called him wakes
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Speaker 3: him up and it's like she's an Amsterdam. He's in
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Speaker 3: the United States. It's like, oh, honey, I just got
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Speaker 3: to to this. Oh well, let me go down my
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Speaker 3: let me know my rolodexive information I have about what
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Speaker 3: camer has done to me, and here go back to
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Speaker 3: the gay Sler. Okay, no, it doesn't happen that fast.
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Speaker 2: Laughing at my hair?
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Speaker 3: Are you laughing at this?
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Speaker 2: Okay, look now, the hairs everything, I'm laughing. I'm laughing
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Speaker 2: at the fact that you are so right. It's funny.
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Speaker 2: I've been thinking about the time.
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Speaker 1: Then, friends, like, I'm not prepared with the fucking time
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Speaker 1: difference of you calling me a boustle on a crisis
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Speaker 1: you're at and I have.
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Speaker 3: And I'm watching our kid, yes.
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Speaker 2: And I'm calm. He's calm too, and he's.
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Speaker 1: Ready to go with information, and so I'm like, this
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Speaker 1: shit is weird. To me, so after the ladies are
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Speaker 1: really trying to tell which you know what's so funny
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Speaker 1: to me? I felt that the rest of the girls,
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Speaker 1: and this is where bias is on a whole other
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Speaker 1: level when it comes to these women, they they were
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Speaker 1: pretty much trying to tell Gretchen how she should respond
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Speaker 1: and give her the benefit of a doubt. So even
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Speaker 1: when she tried to produce in a visceral reaction after
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Speaker 1: being iced out and not going to the band, which look,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna say this, and this
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Speaker 1: may not be popular, and I'm five with that because
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Speaker 1: I speak the truth. I did feel like, okay, the
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Speaker 1: same way I felt when Emily told Katie to get
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Speaker 1: the fuck out, and I'm like, who the fuck are you,
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Speaker 1: Emily Simpson. I did not like the fact that Gretchen
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Speaker 1: was not allowed on the car. I did feel like,
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Speaker 1: I don't like to see anyone being ice out. I
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Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, if if you
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Speaker 1: feel like, okay, you could have said.
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Speaker 2: This, then she's on the show and that's.
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Speaker 1: Not her fucking sprints van As Productions and Gauls is
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Speaker 1: showing you now when company's women, they do have this
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Speaker 1: weird sense of being empowered by icing out someone that
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Speaker 1: they feel like in the moment deserves it.
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Speaker 2: And I will give Gretchen that.
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Speaker 1: I did not like that, And I felt that Gretcha's
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Speaker 1: anger was only produced by herself because she was being
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Speaker 1: iced down.
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Speaker 3: And that's where she tried to produce tears even then,
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Speaker 3: And that was the moment the creative of her to
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Speaker 3: want to is because she was getting iced out and
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Speaker 3: she still couldn't get a tear to come out, so
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Speaker 3: she was It's just like she was really lost and
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Speaker 3: she needed more production from Slade. She needed Slade to
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Speaker 3: help her figure out what am I supposed to do
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Speaker 3: in this situation. But I agree with you, and that's
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Speaker 3: why when I said a few minutes ago, I do
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Speaker 3: feel bad for Gretchen. I don't think it's right. Doing
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Speaker 3: two wrongs don't make it right. So just because she
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Speaker 3: messed up and is liking hate rhetoric doesn't mean that
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Speaker 3: the other women need to stoop down and then just
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Speaker 3: bully her or ice her out. I mean, I get
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Speaker 3: it that you're disgusted by it. I get it that
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Speaker 3: you need to have long conversations with her about this
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Speaker 3: and figure it out. You can just give her the
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Speaker 3: silent treatment in the car. You don't need to do
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Speaker 3: two wrongs to make a right. So that's where my
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Speaker 3: compassion does and empathy does come in for it, because
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Speaker 3: almost every single one of those women have been iced
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Speaker 3: out at some point, including me season seven, okay, so
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Speaker 3: and last season. I mean at the reunion, I was
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Speaker 3: iced out. They obviously did not have my back. I
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Speaker 3: was completely on an island by myself. Doesn't feel good,
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Speaker 3: and so I don't. I don't condone that, no matter
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Speaker 3: what you know, like, but you know, moving forward with it,
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Speaker 3: it's it's I even didn't like Gretchen's replies in her
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Speaker 3: interview the confessionals, like, I still didn't even I didn't
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Speaker 3: even feel like she did herself justice. If she really
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Speaker 3: didn't do it, she didn't do herself any justice.
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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
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Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. I want to ask
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Speaker 1: you this too, So the next day this listen, I'm
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Speaker 1: trying so hard to really find the silver lighting in
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Speaker 1: some of these women's biased but I can't because it's biased.
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Speaker 2: I got angry. I'm just being honest with you, Alexis
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Speaker 2: I got angry.
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Speaker 1: You've been iceed out before, Tam has been iceed out, before,
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Speaker 1: Noel has been iced out, before, Katie Janella has been
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Speaker 1: iced out. So all of a sudden, the ladies go
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Speaker 1: to sleep, they wake up and now they feel super
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Speaker 1: bad about what happened to Gretchen. And now they have
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Speaker 1: a moral compass, not the compass that's taken up back
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Speaker 1: to the airport, but a compass of morality because they
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Speaker 1: feel like, well, you know, look when Gina said, I
19:49
Speaker 1: just feel bad because you can't destroy someone's life, are
19:53
Speaker 1: you fucking kidding me? You destroyed Katie Janella's life. She
19:59
Speaker 1: is not been allowed to film with you, ladies.
20:03
Speaker 2: You that's that's what.
20:04
Speaker 1: So all of a sudden you feel that way. And
20:08
Speaker 1: then to say I would hate Heather. I wouldn't hate
20:11
Speaker 1: to accuse someone of something that isn't true. Excuse me
20:18
Speaker 1: because Alexis walked it too. If you followed these accounts
20:23
Speaker 1: and you don't see that someone didn't like them a
20:25
Speaker 1: year ago, I believe, in my opinion.
20:29
Speaker 2: Allegedly that Regretchen was back on the show.
20:33
Speaker 1: You can unlike some things because things come, things are
20:36
Speaker 1: on earth. But it was the fact that these women
20:40
Speaker 1: are so fucking filled with contradictions that it makes it
20:47
Speaker 1: hard to enjoy these ladies as much as I.
20:51
Speaker 2: Want to.
20:52
Speaker 1: I I was ready to throw my my laptop down
20:56
Speaker 1: the ground and just and just numb all over it
20:58
Speaker 1: because I can't take the bab I just can't take it.
21:01
Speaker 2: Katie didn't never deserve the same grace, y, I go ahead.
21:05
Speaker 3: Yes, and and and by the way, Carlos, what Katie
21:08
Speaker 3: Jella is being accused of is one, I mean, a
21:13
Speaker 3: speck of grant a sand compared to what Gretchen just
21:16
Speaker 3: got accused of. Okay, but they all of a sudden
21:19
Speaker 3: had a change of heart, like you said when they
21:20
Speaker 3: went to bed that night, like like what sparked this sudden? Oh,
21:24
Speaker 3: let's give her some compassion because she sure didn't do
21:26
Speaker 3: it herself any justice and trying to explain to them
21:29
Speaker 3: why or how or what or that she would, you know,
21:32
Speaker 3: defend herself and by any spread of the word, I mean,
21:35
Speaker 3: it's just like I I was very baffled by that.
21:40
Speaker 3: The women seem very fickle, I think is the words
21:42
Speaker 3: you're looking for. They were very fickle with the situation
21:44
Speaker 3: because they were flip flopping back and forth, and everyone
21:47
Speaker 3: just needs to have a stance and take that stance.
21:49
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what the bottom line is. Just take
21:51
Speaker 3: have a stance and and make Gretchen prove otherwise, like
21:56
Speaker 3: if she didn't do it, make her prove it. Okay,
22:00
Speaker 3: which we're going to get to that phone call that
22:02
Speaker 3: we heard the girl. I don't know if you want
22:04
Speaker 3: to speed up to there, but any girl that's a
22:09
Speaker 3: whole go oh oh, you're gonna let me. You're gonna
22:13
Speaker 3: let me go first, because I don't know if you're
22:17
Speaker 3: gonna agree with me or not, Carlos, But you know,
22:19
Speaker 3: I don't really give a care if anyone agrees, if
22:21
Speaker 3: you or not. My opinion and guess what and Tamera's words,
22:24
Speaker 3: it's my opinion yet Okay, it's my opinion. Okay that
22:28
Speaker 3: phone call. First of all, it was a muffled voice.
22:33
Speaker 3: How do you why if someone's coming forth with valuable
22:37
Speaker 3: information that is one hundred percent true, are you muffling
22:41
Speaker 3: a voice? Secondly, I rewound it probably five times. The
22:46
Speaker 3: way some of the words came out, it sounded to
22:48
Speaker 3: me like Slade, please forgive me everyone if you just
22:51
Speaker 3: think I'm jumping to that, But it did to me, okay,
22:55
Speaker 3: And the other part that really caught my attention, I'm like,
22:59
Speaker 3: what the hell this is? So it's so scripted, and
23:02
Speaker 3: it's so like, none of it makes sense. It doesn't
23:05
Speaker 3: make sense. Why did Gina say at that one point
23:07
Speaker 3: there was some point where she goes, oh wait, does
23:09
Speaker 3: the couse back up? Why is this person who's got
23:13
Speaker 3: all this knowledge that any housewife, husband, boyfriend, fiance, sister, mother, daughter,
23:19
Speaker 3: kid could know. Because they're filming a reality show and
23:22
Speaker 3: there's seven or eight women, and all of those women
23:24
Speaker 3: have an entire family that know everything that go on
23:26
Speaker 3: during the field trips and the places that these women go.
23:29
Speaker 3: That is information that is not so oh my goodness,
23:33
Speaker 3: it's just facts from if you're a friend of a fan,
23:35
Speaker 3: Like if I was feeling, Johnny knew everything I was
23:38
Speaker 3: doing all day long? So did my kids? I come home,
23:40
Speaker 3: I'd vent to my kids. And I have adult kids, obviously,
23:43
Speaker 3: you know every single one of those women have people
23:45
Speaker 3: in their circle that know where they are, what transpired,
23:49
Speaker 3: and and you know so and if Tampa had done this,
23:54
Speaker 3: This is the other point that really got me. And
23:56
Speaker 3: I know Tammer's my friend, and I don't I don't
23:58
Speaker 3: want to sound like, oh, it's Tammer's all this and
24:00
Speaker 3: all that. She's not. Okay, she's a human and she
24:02
Speaker 3: could f up to But the other part is why,
24:05
Speaker 3: if tamer really did do all this that this phony
24:09
Speaker 3: caller said she did, why wasn't information leaked earlier? Why
24:13
Speaker 3: is it all of a sudden now there's just so
24:16
Speaker 3: much that didn't make sense. Carlos, you know, it's the
24:19
Speaker 3: phoniest thing I've ever heard. I hope America feels that
24:21
Speaker 3: and they're not sitting there buying it, because I give
24:23
Speaker 3: America credit and I think they are smarter, you know, smart,
24:28
Speaker 3: So I just hope they don't buy it. But I
24:30
Speaker 3: wanted to hear your opinion, and I thought you might
24:31
Speaker 3: argue with me or disagree. I don't know, So.
24:33
Speaker 2: You go now, yeah, yeah, okay, going, I agree with you.
24:40
Speaker 1: Look, I said it once, I said it twice, I
24:44
Speaker 1: said it three times. Here's the fourth Tamra, Judge. These
24:49
Speaker 1: ladies are not your friends. They don't like you. They
24:52
Speaker 1: actually woke up the next morning feeling bad, Regretchen and
24:55
Speaker 1: turns around on you saying, well, we thought about it.
24:58
Speaker 2: If you have this information for over a year or two.
25:00
Speaker 2: Why bring it.
25:01
Speaker 1: Up unless these ladies have never been on reality TV
25:06
Speaker 1: for the past couple of seasons.
25:08
Speaker 2: They all know that.
25:10
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm gonna say two things that are true. Ninety
25:16
Speaker 1: of reality stars talk to bloggers, and it is what
25:18
Speaker 1: it is.
25:19
Speaker 2: And listen. But but be clear what I'm saying. I'm
25:22
Speaker 2: just saying they give bloggers information. That's a very different thing.
25:26
Speaker 1: They do talk to bloggers, right, it is what it is,
25:29
Speaker 1: news flash.
25:30
Speaker 2: They all do.
25:31
Speaker 3: Now, well I don't. I don't, so I don't. I
25:34
Speaker 3: don't agree with the nine nine. Maybe it's I don't
25:39
Speaker 3: think I will say hi to the bloggers on the
25:42
Speaker 3: red carpet or when we're out or when I see somebody.
25:44
Speaker 3: And then they're like, oh, we have a lot of
25:45
Speaker 3: bloggers don't admit, by the way, what their blogs are
25:47
Speaker 3: because they know they bullshit talk. Oh gosh, they talk
25:50
Speaker 3: bad about you behind your back on some episodes, and
25:53
Speaker 3: then they they don't really want you to know that
25:55
Speaker 3: I'm Eric and I run the Real Housewives, you know,
25:58
Speaker 3: two to two blogside or whatever, you know what I mean.
26:00
Speaker 3: They don't want to be told. They don't want anyone
26:02
Speaker 3: to know. But when you do meet one or two
26:04
Speaker 3: of them. I do say hi to them, but I
26:05
Speaker 3: don't talk to bloggers, so I don't know. I'm confused
26:08
Speaker 3: and perplexed by all that.
26:10
Speaker 1: Well, no, and the thing is this, I said ninety
26:12
Speaker 1: nine percent, you're part of the one percent tile out
26:15
Speaker 1: of because the thing is this selecxis there are I
26:19
Speaker 1: believe the number is four hundred housewives, whether past present
26:24
Speaker 1: like so okay, which is which is crazy because a lot,
26:28
Speaker 1: it's a lot.
26:29
Speaker 2: So that's number one.
26:32
Speaker 4: Now flip this on camera, and let's be clear, is
26:37
Speaker 4: not in a sense, in the sense of not doing things.
26:42
Speaker 2: That I disagreed with. I keep saying over over again,
26:45
Speaker 2: rain drops the way she.
26:47
Speaker 1: Was talking to Shannon last season or the season before
26:51
Speaker 1: I got what it was the last season.
26:55
Speaker 2: On this podcast that I hated her, calling her drunk.
26:58
Speaker 1: I told Sherb personally, I think this does look good
27:02
Speaker 1: for you. I can't defend this in the worst of
27:05
Speaker 1: Kyle Richards, this is indefensible. I can't defend this, and
27:10
Speaker 1: she understood, but she had a reason that that's fine.
27:13
Speaker 1: I don't think at all that Tamar Judge orchestrated this,
27:20
Speaker 1: this smear campaign against Gretchen, I thank you guys. I
27:24
Speaker 1: hope you guys are smart enough to understand. Why is
27:28
Speaker 1: it be convenience that a week after okay, a week
27:38
Speaker 1: after they filmed, all of a sudden, Gina gets DMS
27:45
Speaker 1: from people, Emily gets DMS from somebody, and they're alleging
27:51
Speaker 1: that this person has DM them before. If that's the case,
27:54
Speaker 1: show me the receipts, show me the receipts. Let me
27:57
Speaker 1: let me see data back in twenty twenty three, twenty
28:00
Speaker 1: twenty four, that this person allegedly DMG.
28:04
Speaker 2: But you mean to tell me you want Carlos King
28:06
Speaker 2: and Alexis Janssen.
28:08
Speaker 1: To believe that a week after filming, this random person.
28:15
Speaker 2: Decided to have a moral compass and spill all the
28:17
Speaker 2: tamer's tea.
28:18
Speaker 1: Why would he wait until she was quote unquote exposed.
28:22
Speaker 1: Why not do it throughout the whole season? Why not
28:25
Speaker 1: do it after the episode airs? It was fake, It
28:28
Speaker 1: was phony. It's sounded like Slade. I'm not saying it
28:32
Speaker 1: was Slade, it did sound like him. It was muffled.
28:35
Speaker 1: I don't know why I was muffoled, Because when you
28:37
Speaker 1: are recording a conversation, that person has to sign an
28:40
Speaker 1: appearance release so.
28:42
Speaker 2: You can use their likeness and do with the what
28:44
Speaker 2: you may.
28:46
Speaker 1: It goes to show you that I believe this was
28:49
Speaker 1: orchestrated by Grishna, Slade and Tamer to me, is innocent
28:53
Speaker 1: in this in this.
28:54
Speaker 3: Wait a second, you just confused. Man. I am a
28:58
Speaker 3: smart person. Okay, I know, I don't know it sounds
29:00
Speaker 3: smart on national television, but I have a brain. Wait
29:04
Speaker 3: you're okay, so are you? Wait? This was This is
29:09
Speaker 3: a light bulb moment for me. So you're right. Because
29:12
Speaker 3: for them to be able to use that recording of
29:14
Speaker 3: a muffled voice as a producer, I'm asking you this
29:18
Speaker 3: that the show had to have that person sign off
29:22
Speaker 3: to be on national television.
29:25
Speaker 1: Correct.
29:26
Speaker 2: Yes, the girls couldn't.
29:27
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is what I'm asking is Gina could
29:29
Speaker 3: not have just played that unless that person that is
29:34
Speaker 3: the muffled fake voice signed off something for Bravo to
29:37
Speaker 3: use it. Correct.
29:38
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, that's that's.
29:41
Speaker 3: Brilliant, Carlos, Because there you go, so so so production
29:45
Speaker 3: does know who is behind this voice, so we get
29:49
Speaker 3: at the bottom of it if she really wanted to.
29:52
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing.
29:53
Speaker 1: The person when you when you're using someone's likeness. Right,
29:59
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna take you back to Potomac episode last
30:03
Speaker 1: week when the First Lady of Maryland was at the event.
30:10
Speaker 1: They said she was there and she actually hugged the
30:13
Speaker 1: other housewives Alexis, but they couldn't show her.
30:17
Speaker 2: And and what what the producers did?
30:20
Speaker 1: They wrote on the screen the First Lady did not
30:24
Speaker 1: want to be filmed because she did not sign a relief,
30:26
Speaker 1: so they could not use.
30:27
Speaker 2: Her like this as her her voice or anything.
30:31
Speaker 1: When you're using someone's voice rain drops at the producer,
30:35
Speaker 1: they have to sile off on it.
30:37
Speaker 3: So then Tameron Judge, I'm going to talk to you
30:40
Speaker 3: through this podcast because I hope she'll listen to it.
30:42
Speaker 3: She's my friend. But anyway, you need to get from
30:44
Speaker 3: production who that phony voice is and get to the
30:47
Speaker 3: bottom of that, because if they signed it, then they
30:50
Speaker 3: can't be so phony and keep miss you know, canceling
30:53
Speaker 3: their account, bring their account back using a phony voice,
30:56
Speaker 3: dming and then erasing and like all the things that
30:59
Speaker 3: don't make sense. Because if you're if you're an authentic person,
31:02
Speaker 3: you're not gonna care what your voice sounds like, right,
31:05
Speaker 3: You're not gonna care if you you're gonna have to
31:06
Speaker 3: delete your account and open it back up again. That's
31:09
Speaker 3: all shady things that people do that don't want to
31:12
Speaker 3: be known because it's not authentic. So there you go, Tamra,
31:17
Speaker 3: we just helped you, Carlos and I you pay us later.
31:20
Speaker 3: We just helped figure.
31:23
Speaker 1: Right.
31:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I don't buy it for one second.
31:28
Speaker 1: Even when Gretchen and Sleigh were talking in the kitchen
31:31
Speaker 1: about what just happened, she still did not seem like
31:34
Speaker 1: a person that was accused of something she didn't do.
31:38
Speaker 1: You know, I go back to when you watch these
31:42
Speaker 1: shows and how these women have big reactions, like, for example,
31:47
Speaker 1: the Cocomnissant multiple partners, you felt like it's so true.
31:57
Speaker 2: Though yees. Bickie was like, Laura, you fucking bitch. I
32:01
Speaker 2: never slept my MultiMate partners.
32:03
Speaker 3: That's not me. I filmed that season, I was there
32:08
Speaker 3: at that exact same I missed me some Vicky Gumble said, Okay, Carlos,
32:12
Speaker 3: I just I'm just having to take a moment away
32:13
Speaker 3: from all this heavy, heavy crap.
32:15
Speaker 2: But but she.
32:16
Speaker 3: Would have been like like like, oh my gosh, it's
32:23
Speaker 3: so true. It's so true.
32:27
Speaker 1: It's no, it is it is and listen, I think
32:31
Speaker 1: what and and.
32:32
Speaker 2: So look, that's that's that's my theory.
32:35
Speaker 1: I I I don't think Tamra had anything to do
32:37
Speaker 1: with it.
32:37
Speaker 2: I don't think that.
32:38
Speaker 1: I mean, I know a lot of you guys just
32:40
Speaker 1: don't like her. That's fine, She's a polar rifing figure. Yeah,
32:44
Speaker 1: but if you guys look at the fact, it doesn't
32:47
Speaker 1: make sense that a week after they take that dinner
32:50
Speaker 1: scene in a private room, right that this guy had information.
32:55
Speaker 1: He had information because there's somebody in that private room
32:59
Speaker 1: that leaps to him in order for him to coist
33:03
Speaker 1: a dentally DM everybody to say, Hey, guys, guess what
33:09
Speaker 1: Tama was telling me?
33:09
Speaker 2: These things I don't buy. I don't buy. I don't
33:13
Speaker 2: buy for a second.
33:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious to see what we're going to get
33:18
Speaker 3: in the comment section on the feedback and what I
33:20
Speaker 3: really am curious what viewers are feeling at this moment,
33:25
Speaker 3: because this one is so this one is so well,
33:28
Speaker 3: it's super deep to me, unto you. Also because I
33:30
Speaker 3: know we're in the LGBTQ plus community.
33:33
Speaker 1: So I I.
33:36
Speaker 3: It really hits home for me and I have this
33:38
Speaker 3: I mean, actually, I'm usually pretty opinionated him. I was
33:40
Speaker 3: gonna say, I have a really big opinion about this one,
33:42
Speaker 3: but I can't really say that because I'm opinionated about everything,
33:46
Speaker 3: so scratch that. But it hits home and I don't.
33:50
Speaker 3: I cannot wait, honestly, Carlos for the reunion, Like this
33:54
Speaker 3: is one of them where I'm like, I already have
33:56
Speaker 3: my high blood pressure because I'm just like, the reunion's
33:59
Speaker 3: a whole other week away. We have to wait six
34:01
Speaker 3: more days. Oh yeah, I need more information. I do
34:06
Speaker 3: need more information on it. They left us the big cliffhanger, Carlos,
34:10
Speaker 3: the big cliffhanger.
34:13
Speaker 2: Now, and look that's the job of the producers.
34:16
Speaker 1: And listen, fantastic work because you got Alexis and I
34:20
Speaker 1: activated in anticipating the three part re union. And look,
34:24
Speaker 1: we can't wait, so rain jobs. Let Alexis and I know.
34:28
Speaker 1: In the comments, do you guys agree with our theory
34:33
Speaker 1: that this was a scheme that Slagh set.
34:36
Speaker 2: Up and it's not?
34:38
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, okay, love that, and let's take it one
34:41
Speaker 3: step further. Please comment and let us know. If you
34:44
Speaker 3: don't think it's a scheme, please give us why, because
34:47
Speaker 3: I do want to I want to I like valid points.
34:50
Speaker 3: I like validity and the truth. I want to hear
34:53
Speaker 3: if they don't agree, and they feel confident that this
34:55
Speaker 3: is real, please tell us why I agree. I will
35:02
Speaker 3: look this information for your So, Katie and Tamara are
35:05
Speaker 3: throwing a watch party next week for the read first reunion,
35:09
Speaker 3: and guess who's going little Bitty Booby Group. Yeah, I'm going.
35:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm.
35:21
Speaker 1: Not gonna fly to the Orange County ship.
35:27
Speaker 3: Well will you? Will you come?
35:29
Speaker 2: Let me look at my calendar? Girl, I don't know, Lizzy,
35:32
Speaker 2: let's talk about it. Look, it ain't.
35:34
Speaker 3: Easy to get here. I know where you're at. But
35:36
Speaker 3: but if you can come.
35:40
Speaker 1: If I'm unable to make it, please report back and
35:42
Speaker 1: let us know all about this shin dig. But god,
35:44
Speaker 1: you heard it here first Katie at Tamor, I'm having
35:48
Speaker 1: a watch party. Alexis would be there reporting live for
35:52
Speaker 1: Reality with the King podcast and I can't wait to
35:54
Speaker 1: hear it back. Thank you, Alexis. Get your hair dune, girl,
35:59
Speaker 1: and I will see you. I gotta go to.
36:01
Speaker 3: The sink right now, get these fools out people. Gotta
36:04
Speaker 3: have my blonde hair come back without frying it. So
36:06
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