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Your Shamanic Medicine · Skirts Up!

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  Hey,
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  you.
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  You're
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  tuned
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  in
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  to
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  the
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  Skirts
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  up
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  show
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  with
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  Samantha
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  and
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  Melissa.
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  Join
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  our
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  mission
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  to
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  normalize
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  failure,
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  but
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  still
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  uncover
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  the
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  positives
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  at
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  every
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  twist
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  and
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  turn.
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  Skirts
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  up,
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  but
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  keep
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  your
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  panties.
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  That
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  was
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  really
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  cute
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  and
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  funny,
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  and
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  I
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  wish
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  I
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  had
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  a
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  video.
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  Too
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  bad
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  that
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  wasn't
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  on.
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  Oh,
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  yeah.
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  I
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  wish
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  I
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  was
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  literally
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  recording.
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  How
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  did
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  you
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  even
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  do
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  it?
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  We
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  couldn't
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  even
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  make
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  it
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  up
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  again.
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  I
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  could
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  not
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  do
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  that
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  again
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  even
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  if
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  I
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  tried.
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  What's
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  up,
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  Skirts
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  Up
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  Squad?
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  It
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  is.
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  Samantha
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  and
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  Melissa
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  and
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  I
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  just
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  did
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  a
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  sick
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  ass
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  move
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  with
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  the
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  microphone.
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  She
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  did.
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  It
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  looked
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  like
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  it
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  was
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  on
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  purpose.
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  It
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  was
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  like
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  she's
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  so
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  smooth
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  spinning
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  the
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  microphone.
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  It
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  was
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  like
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  a
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  Michael
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  Jackson,
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  like,
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  Usher
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  type
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  move.
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  Sure,
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  but
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  with
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  my
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  hands.
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  Yeah,
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  you
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  could
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  say
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  it
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  was
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  a
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  breakdance
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  move
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  with
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  the
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  microphone.
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  Love
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  it.
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  While
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  sitting
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  on
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  your
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  ass.
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  All
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  right,
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  so
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  I
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  have
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  to
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  tell
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  you
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  guys
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  a
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  funny.
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  While
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  I
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  was
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  at
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  the
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  park
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  with
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  the
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  kids.
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  You
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  ready
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  for
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  this?
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  I'm
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  so
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  ready
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  for
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  this
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  one.
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  Okay.
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  I
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  think
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  I
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  know
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  what
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  it
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  is.
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  So
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  I
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  don't
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  know
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  if
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  you
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  know
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  how
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  awkward
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  I
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  am
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  in
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  person,
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  out
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  in
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  public.
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  Like,
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  I
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  don't
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  know
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  how
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  to
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  talk
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  to
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  people.
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  And
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  so
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  it's
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  really
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  new
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  to
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  me
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  since
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  this
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  podcast.
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  So
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  it's
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  been,
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  you
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  know,
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  I
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  guess,
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  almost
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  a
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  year
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  of.
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  Of
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  just
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  walking
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  up
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  to
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  strangers
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  and
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  trying
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  to
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  have
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  a
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  conversation.
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  And
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  we're
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  at
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  the
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  park,
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  there's
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  this
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  mom
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  that's,
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  you
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  know,
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  playing
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  with
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  Nora,
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  and
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  Nora's
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  trying
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  to
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  play
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  with
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  the
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  kid.
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  And
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  so
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  then
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  the
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  mom
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  starts
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  small
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  talking
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  with
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  me,
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  and
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  it
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  comes
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  up
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  of,
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  what
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  do
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  you
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  do?
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  And
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  I
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  was
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  like,
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  well,
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  I
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  have
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  a
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  podcast
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  called
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  Skirts
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  up
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  with
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  my
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  friend.
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  And
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  she
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  goes,
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  that's
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  so
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  cool.
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  What
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  do
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  you
• 1:52
  guys
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  talk
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  about?
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  And.
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  And
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  so
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  I
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  was
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  like,
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  oh,
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  we
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  talk
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  about,
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  like,
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  spirituality.
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  We
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  have
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  since.
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  Real
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  quick.
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  We
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  have
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  since
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  worked
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  on
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  our
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  elevator
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  pitch
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  for.
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  For
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  the
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  podcast,
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  haven't
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  we?
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  Particularly
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  me,
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  because
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  I'm
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  awkward
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  as
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  fuck.
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  No,
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  but
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  just.
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  Okay,
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  but
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  it's
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  true,
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  guys.
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  It
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  was
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  hard
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  to
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  kind
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  of,
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  for
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  a
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  while
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  explain,
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  like,
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  what
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  is
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  our
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  podcast
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  about?
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  So
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  this
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  is
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  Sam
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  trying
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  to
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  do
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  that.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  So
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  I
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  was
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  like,
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  oh,
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  spiritual
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  stuff
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  and
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  finding
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  yourself.
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  And
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  she
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  goes,
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  oh,
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  okay.
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  Well,
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  what's,
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  like,
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  a
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  topic
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  you
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  guys
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  have
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  talked
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  about?
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  And
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  so
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  the
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  first
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  thing
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  that
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  comes
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  to
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  is,
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  oh,
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  lucid
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  dreaming.
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  That
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  was
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  really
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  cool
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  that
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  you.
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  And
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  then.
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  So
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  then
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  she
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  goes,
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  well,
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  what.
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  What
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  brought
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  up
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  the
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  lucid
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  dreaming?
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  I
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  go,
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  oh,
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  honestly,
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  it's
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  funny
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  that
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  you
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  say
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  that
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  because
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  it
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  started
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  when
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  I
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  started
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  deep
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  diving
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  into
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  the
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  evil
• 2:43
  eye
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  because
• 2:44
  I
• 2:44
  thought
• 2:45
  that
• 2:45
  my
• 2:45
  mother
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  in
• 2:46
  law
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  had
• 2:46
  put
• 2:46
  an
• 2:47
  evil
• 2:47
  eye
• 2:47
  curse
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  on
• 2:48
  me.
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  And
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  she's
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  looking
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  at
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  me
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  and
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  her
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  jaws
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  just
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  dropped
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  and
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  I
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  go,
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  oh,
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  don't
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  worry
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  though,
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  I
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  have
• 2:56
  an
• 2:56
  evil
• 2:56
  eye
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  in
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  my
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  house.
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  Sam
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  is,
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  okay,
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  keep
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  going.
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  I'm
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  so
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  sorry.
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  It's
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  hilarious.
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  So
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  then
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  she
• 3:03
  looks
• 3:03
  at
• 3:04
  me
• 3:04
  and
• 3:04
  she
• 3:04
  goes,
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  oh,
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  that's
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  what
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  Jesus
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  is
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  for.
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  And
• 3:07
  walks
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  away.
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  And
• 3:10
  I
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  look
• 3:10
  at
• 3:10
  Simon
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  wide
• 3:11
  eyed
• 3:11
  and
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  I
• 3:12
  was
• 3:12
  like,
• 3:12
  what
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  did
• 3:12
  I
• 3:12
  just.
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  What
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  happened?
• 3:13
  He
• 3:13
  goes,
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  samantha,
• 3:14
  he's
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  like,
• 3:15
  let
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  me
• 3:15
  explain.
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  I
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  saw
• 3:16
  it
• 3:16
  coming.
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  He
• 3:18
  was
• 3:18
  like,
• 3:19
  I
• 3:19
  was
• 3:19
  looking.
• 3:19
  He
• 3:19
  said,
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  no,
• 3:20
  abort
• 3:20
  mission,
• 3:20
  abort
• 3:21
  mission.
• 3:21
  He
• 3:22
  was
• 3:22
  like,
• 3:22
  you
• 3:22
  can't
• 3:23
  say
• 3:23
  things
• 3:23
  like
• 3:23
  that
• 3:23
  to
• 3:23
  people.
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  Like,
• 3:24
  you
• 3:24
  gotta
• 3:24
  fill
• 3:25
  them
• 3:25
  out
• 3:25
  first.
• 3:25
  Like,
• 3:26
  no.
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  Oh,
• 3:28
  I
• 3:28
  just
• 3:29
  saw
• 3:29
  my
• 3:29
  PODC
• 3:30
  because
• 3:30
  people
• 3:30
  love
• 3:31
  me.
• 3:31
  I
• 3:31
  thought
• 3:32
  conversation
• 3:32
  is
• 3:32
  conversation.
• 3:33
  I
• 3:33
  thought
• 3:33
  that's
• 3:33
  how
• 3:34
  you
• 3:34
  know
• 3:34
  if
• 3:34
  you
• 3:34
  jive
• 3:35
  with
• 3:35
  someone.
• 3:35
  He's
• 3:35
  like,
• 3:35
  no,
• 3:36
  you
• 3:37
  give
• 3:37
  it
• 3:37
  a
• 3:37
  minute
• 3:37
  and
• 3:37
  then
• 3:38
  you
• 3:38
  like,
• 3:38
  then
• 3:38
  you
• 3:39
  stick
• 3:39
  in
• 3:39
  the
• 3:39
  crazy.
• 3:40
  I
• 3:40
  was
• 3:40
  like,
• 3:40
  I
• 3:40
  didn't
• 3:41
  know
• 3:41
  it
• 3:41
  was
• 3:41
  crazy.
• 3:41
  It's
• 3:41
  like
• 3:42
  a
• 3:42
  first
• 3:42
  date,
• 3:42
  you
• 3:42
  know,
• 3:43
  you
• 3:43
  don't
• 3:43
  like,
• 3:43
  you're
• 3:44
  like,
• 3:44
  no,
• 3:44
  but
• 3:44
  this
• 3:44
  is
• 3:45
  my
• 3:45
  favorite
• 3:45
  part
• 3:46
  is,
• 3:46
  yes,
• 3:46
  you
• 3:46
  did.
• 3:46
  You
• 3:46
  know,
• 3:47
  it's
• 3:47
  crazy
• 3:47
  one.
• 3:48
  It's
• 3:48
  not
• 3:48
  crazy
• 3:49
  crazy,
• 3:49
  but
• 3:49
  it's
• 3:50
  not.
• 3:50
  It's
• 3:50
  on
• 3:50
  fringe.
• 3:51
  It's
• 3:51
  fringe
• 3:52
  for
• 3:52
  sure.
• 3:52
  Okay,
• 3:53
  okay,
• 3:53
  but
• 3:54
  what
• 3:54
  my
• 3:54
  favorite
• 3:54
  part
• 3:55
  about
• 3:55
  the
• 3:55
  whole
• 3:55
  thing
• 3:55
  is
• 3:55
  how
• 3:56
  you're
• 3:56
  like,
• 3:56
  but
• 3:56
  don't
• 3:56
  worry,
• 3:57
  I
• 3:57
  have
• 3:57
  an
• 3:57
  evil
• 3:58
  eye
• 3:58
  now
• 3:58
  because
• 3:59
  you
• 3:59
  saw
• 3:59
  her
• 3:59
  face
• 4:00
  changing
• 4:00
  and
• 4:00
  you're
• 4:01
  like,
• 4:01
  what?
• 4:02
  Whatever
• 4:02
  could
• 4:02
  she
• 4:02
  be
• 4:03
  thinking?
• 4:03
  Well,
• 4:03
  clearly
• 4:04
  she's
• 4:04
  worried
• 4:05
  about
• 4:05
  me
• 4:05
  not
• 4:05
  having
• 4:06
  an
• 4:06
  ev
• 4:06
  in
• 4:06
  my
• 4:07
  house.
• 4:08
  Oh
• 4:09
  my
• 4:09
  God.
• 4:10
  And
• 4:11
  I,
• 4:11
  that's
• 4:11
  just.
• 4:11
  I'm
• 4:11
  so
• 4:12
  awkward
• 4:12
  that
• 4:12
  random
• 4:13
  stuff
• 4:13
  like
• 4:13
  that
• 4:13
  is
• 4:13
  what
• 4:14
  comes
• 4:14
  out
• 4:14
  of
• 4:14
  my
• 4:14
  mouth.
• 4:15
  So
• 4:15
  she
• 4:16
  could
• 4:16
  have
• 4:16
  asked,
• 4:18
  she
• 4:18
  could
• 4:18
  have
• 4:18
  asked
• 4:19
  me.
• 4:19
  And
• 4:19
  this
• 4:19
  is
• 4:19
  what
• 4:19
  I
• 4:19
  usually,
• 4:20
  this.
• 4:20
  Is
• 4:20
  what
• 4:21
  I
• 4:21
  used
• 4:21
  to
• 4:21
  do.
• 4:21
  And
• 4:21
  Simon
• 4:22
  was
• 4:22
  also
• 4:22
  like,
• 4:22
  you
• 4:23
  can't
• 4:23
  do
• 4:23
  that.
• 4:24
  It's
• 4:24
  not
• 4:24
  normal.
• 4:25
  Like
• 4:26
  when
• 4:26
  people
• 4:26
  be
• 4:26
  like,
• 4:26
  would
• 4:27
  ask
• 4:27
  me
• 4:27
  and
• 4:27
  Simon
• 4:27
  about,
• 4:28
  oh,
• 4:28
  how'd
• 4:28
  you
• 4:28
  guys
• 4:28
  get
• 4:29
  together?
• 4:29
  How
• 4:29
  long
• 4:29
  have
• 4:29
  you
• 4:29
  guys
• 4:30
  known
• 4:30
  each
• 4:30
  other?
• 4:30
  You
• 4:31
  know,
• 4:31
  give
• 4:31
  some
• 4:31
  background.
• 4:32
  I
• 4:33
  immediately
• 4:33
  go,
• 4:34
  oh,
• 4:34
  this
• 4:35
  is
• 4:35
  my
• 4:35
  husband
• 4:35
  Simon.
• 4:35
  He
• 4:35
  grew
• 4:36
  up
• 4:36
  in
• 4:36
  a
• 4:36
  cult.
• 4:39
  And
• 4:39
  he
• 4:39
  always
• 4:40
  looks
• 4:40
  at
• 4:40
  me
• 4:40
  and.
• 4:40
  He
• 4:40
  goes,
• 4:42
  you
• 4:42
  can't
• 4:43
  tell
• 4:43
  people
• 4:43
  that.
• 4:44
  And
• 4:44
  I'm
• 4:44
  always
• 4:45
  like,
• 4:45
  but
• 4:45
  why?
• 4:46
  And
• 4:46
  he
• 4:46
  goes,
• 4:47
  because
• 4:47
  you're
• 4:47
  like,
• 4:47
  that's.
• 4:47
  The
• 4:48
  most
• 4:48
  interesting
• 4:48
  part.
• 4:49
  Exactly.
• 4:49
  You
• 4:49
  were
• 4:49
  built
• 4:50
  for
• 4:50
  the
• 4:50
  podcast
• 4:50
  world.
• 4:51
  I'm
• 4:52
  like,
• 4:53
  that's
• 4:53
  how
• 4:53
  you
• 4:53
  start
• 4:53
  a
• 4:53
  conversation.
• 4:54
  You
• 4:54
  give
• 4:54
  Them
• 4:54
  something
• 4:55
  interesting.
• 4:55
  And
• 4:55
  I
• 4:55
  was
• 4:55
  like.
• 4:55
  And
• 4:56
  then
• 4:56
  there's
• 4:56
  conversation.
• 4:57
  I
• 4:57
  was
• 4:57
  like,
• 4:57
  without
• 4:58
  the
• 4:58
  wow
• 4:59
  factor,
• 5:00
  my
• 5:01
  conversation
• 5:01
  would
• 5:02
  be
• 5:02
  staring
• 5:02
  at
• 5:02
  them,
• 5:03
  asking
• 5:04
  if
• 5:04
  they
• 5:05
  like
• 5:05
  bananas.
• 5:06
  Aw,
• 5:08
  that's
• 5:08
  so
• 5:08
  cute.
• 5:09
  Like,
• 5:09
  I
• 5:09
  feel
• 5:10
  like
• 5:10
  the
• 5:11
  part
• 5:11
  that's
• 5:11
  cute,
• 5:11
  I
• 5:12
  think,
• 5:12
  is
• 5:12
  you're
• 5:12
  like,
• 5:12
  no,
• 5:13
  they
• 5:13
  need
• 5:13
  a
• 5:13
  wow
• 5:13
  factor.
• 5:14
  I've
• 5:14
  got
• 5:14
  to
• 5:14
  make
• 5:14
  them
• 5:15
  entertained.
• 5:16
  Maybe
• 5:17
  that's
• 5:17
  my
• 5:17
  flaw.
• 5:18
  No,
• 5:19
  it's
• 5:19
  sweet.
• 5:20
  It's
• 5:20
  thoughtful.
• 5:21
  Oh,
• 5:22
  my.
• 5:22
  Yeah.
• 5:23
  So
• 5:23
  I've
• 5:23
  learned
• 5:25
  not
• 5:25
  to
• 5:25
  start
• 5:26
  off
• 5:26
  with
• 5:26
  lucid
• 5:26
  dreaming,
• 5:27
  because
• 5:27
  apparently
• 5:27
  that
• 5:28
  also
• 5:28
  is
• 5:28
  against
• 5:29
  religion.
• 5:30
  I
• 5:30
  have
• 5:30
  found
• 5:30
  out.
• 5:31
  But
• 5:31
  anywho.
• 5:32
  So
• 5:32
  now
• 5:33
  it
• 5:33
  is.
• 5:33
  We
• 5:34
  are
• 5:34
  about
• 5:34
  normalizing
• 5:35
  things
• 5:35
  that
• 5:36
  are
• 5:37
  hard
• 5:37
  to
• 5:37
  talk
• 5:37
  about.
• 5:38
  And
• 5:38
  apparently
• 5:39
  things
• 5:39
  I
• 5:39
  didn't
• 5:39
  know
• 5:40
  wasn't
• 5:40
  normal
• 5:40
  to
• 5:41
  talk
• 5:41
  about.
• 5:41
  That's
• 5:41
  fair.
• 5:44
  I'm
• 5:45
  learning
• 5:46
  that,
• 5:46
  Sam,
• 5:48
  you
• 5:48
  will
• 5:48
  never
• 5:48
  leave
• 5:49
  a
• 5:49
  conversation
• 5:49
  with
• 5:50
  her
• 5:50
  unentertained.
• 5:53
  I
• 5:53
  mean,
• 5:53
  she
• 5:53
  gives
• 5:54
  you
• 5:54
  the
• 5:54
  wow.
• 5:55
  Keep
• 5:55
  taking
• 5:55
  away
• 5:56
  my
• 5:56
  wow
• 5:56
  factors.
• 5:57
  And,
• 5:57
  no,
• 5:57
  there
• 5:58
  will
• 5:58
  be
• 5:58
  no
• 5:58
  entertainment.
• 5:59
  We're
• 5:59
  not
• 5:59
  taking
• 5:59
  away
• 6:00
  them
• 6:00
  away.
• 6:00
  I'm
• 6:01
  not.
• 6:01
  I'm
• 6:01
  loving
• 6:02
  this.
• 6:02
  Sam
• 6:02
  might
• 6:03
  not.
• 6:03
  Or
• 6:03
  Simon
• 6:04
  might
• 6:04
  not
• 6:04
  be.
• 6:05
  I
• 6:05
  just
• 6:05
  keep
• 6:06
  him
• 6:06
  on
• 6:06
  his
• 6:06
  toes.
• 6:06
  Yeah,
• 6:07
  that's
• 6:07
  right.
• 6:08
  What
• 6:08
  have
• 6:08
  you
• 6:09
  been
• 6:09
  up
• 6:09
  to?
• 6:09
  Any
• 6:09
  fails?
• 6:10
  So,
• 6:11
  a
• 6:11
  little
• 6:11
  bit.
• 6:11
  And
• 6:12
  I
• 6:12
  wasn't
• 6:12
  going
• 6:12
  to
• 6:12
  share
• 6:12
  this
• 6:12
  as
• 6:13
  a
• 6:13
  fail,
• 6:13
  but
• 6:13
  it's
• 6:14
  kind
• 6:14
  of
• 6:14
  funny
• 6:14
  that
• 6:14
  you
• 6:14
  brought
• 6:15
  up
• 6:15
  the
• 6:15
  evil
• 6:15
  eye,
• 6:16
  because
• 6:16
  I
• 6:17
  just
• 6:17
  made
• 6:17
  a
• 6:18
  plate
• 6:18
  in
• 6:19
  pottery,
• 6:20
  and
• 6:20
  it
• 6:20
  was,
• 6:20
  like,
• 6:21
  just
• 6:21
  a
• 6:21
  little
• 6:21
  square,
• 6:22
  like,
• 6:22
  tchotchke
• 6:23
  thing.
• 6:23
  Like,
• 6:23
  it
• 6:23
  will
• 6:23
  hold
• 6:24
  rings
• 6:24
  or
• 6:24
  something.
• 6:26
  But
• 6:26
  I
• 6:26
  drew,
• 6:27
  like,
• 6:27
  a
• 6:27
  really
• 6:28
  cool
• 6:28
  symbol
• 6:28
  in
• 6:29
  the
• 6:29
  middle
• 6:29
  of
• 6:29
  it,
• 6:29
  and
• 6:29
  then
• 6:30
  I
• 6:30
  had,
• 6:30
  like,
• 6:30
  these
• 6:30
  rays
• 6:31
  going
• 6:31
  out
• 6:31
  from
• 6:31
  it,
• 6:31
  but
• 6:32
  I
• 6:32
  didn't
• 6:32
  like
• 6:32
  it
• 6:33
  at
• 6:33
  all.
• 6:33
  I
• 6:33
  was
• 6:33
  showing
• 6:34
  it
• 6:34
  to
• 6:34
  my
• 6:34
  friend,
• 6:34
  saying,
• 6:35
  I
• 6:35
  think
• 6:35
  I'm
• 6:35
  gonna
• 6:35
  throw
• 6:35
  this
• 6:35
  away.
• 6:36
  I
• 6:36
  don't
• 6:36
  like
• 6:36
  it.
• 6:37
  And
• 6:37
  she's
• 6:37
  like,
• 6:37
  yeah,
• 6:37
  but
• 6:38
  no,
• 6:38
  it
• 6:38
  has
• 6:38
  really
• 6:38
  cool
• 6:39
  evil
• 6:39
  eye
• 6:39
  energy
• 6:39
  going
• 6:40
  on
• 6:40
  with
• 6:40
  it.
• 6:41
  Yeah.
• 6:42
  And
• 6:42
  then
• 6:42
  I
• 6:42
  was
• 6:42
  like,
• 6:43
  well,
• 6:43
  I'm
• 6:43
  gonna
• 6:43
  throw
• 6:44
  it
• 6:44
  away.
• 6:44
  And
• 6:44
  she
• 6:45
  said,
• 6:45
  no,
• 6:45
  and
• 6:46
  she
• 6:46
  took
• 6:46
  it
• 6:46
  and
• 6:46
  she
• 6:46
  kept
• 6:46
  it.
• 6:47
  So
• 6:47
  a
• 6:47
  fail
• 6:47
  and
• 6:48
  a
• 6:48
  success.
• 6:48
  I
• 6:48
  guess.
• 6:48
  So
• 6:49
  was
• 6:49
  it
• 6:49
  finished?
• 6:49
  Like,
• 6:49
  you
• 6:50
  colored
• 6:50
  it
• 6:50
  finished?
• 6:50
  It
• 6:51
  was
• 6:51
  completely
• 6:51
  colored
• 6:51
  and
• 6:52
  done.
• 6:52
  And
• 6:52
  then
• 6:52
  I
• 6:52
  thought
• 6:52
  of
• 6:53
  you.
• 6:53
  I
• 6:53
  was
• 6:53
  like,
• 6:53
  well,
• 6:53
  maybe
• 6:53
  I
• 6:53
  should
• 6:54
  give
• 6:54
  it
• 6:54
  to
• 6:54
  Sam.
• 6:54
  But
• 6:55
  I
• 6:55
  just
• 6:55
  didn't
• 6:55
  think
• 6:55
  it
• 6:55
  was
• 6:55
  that
• 6:56
  pretty.
• 6:56
  So
• 6:56
  it's
• 6:56
  not
• 6:57
  a
• 6:57
  Sam
• 6:57
  gift.
• 6:57
  Did
• 6:57
  you
• 6:58
  take
• 6:58
  a
• 6:58
  picture?
• 6:58
  She
• 6:58
  needs
• 6:58
  something
• 6:59
  pretty.
• 7:00
  I
• 7:00
  will
• 7:01
  see
• 7:01
  if
• 7:01
  I
• 7:01
  can
• 7:01
  find.
• 7:01
  Okay.
• 7:02
  I
• 7:02
  did
• 7:02
  promise
• 7:02
  someone
• 7:03
  that
• 7:03
  I
• 7:04
  would
• 7:04
  give
• 7:04
  them
• 7:04
  a
• 7:05
  shout
• 7:05
  out.
• 7:05
  Ooh.
• 7:07
  So
• 7:08
  we
• 7:08
  talked
• 7:08
  about
• 7:08
  on
• 7:08
  our
• 7:09
  last
• 7:09
  episode,
• 7:10
  you
• 7:10
  know,
• 7:10
  the
• 7:10
  awkwardness
• 7:10
  of
• 7:11
  a
• 7:11
  colonoscopy
• 7:12
  every
• 7:12
  time
• 7:12
  I
• 7:13
  have
• 7:13
  to
• 7:13
  get
• 7:13
  my
• 7:13
  blood
• 7:13
  Drawn
• 7:14
  well,
• 7:14
  particularly
• 7:15
  when
• 7:15
  I
• 7:15
  have
• 7:15
  to
• 7:15
  get
• 7:15
  a
• 7:15
  catheter
• 7:16
  put
• 7:16
  in.
• 7:17
  I.
• 7:17
  They
• 7:17
  will
• 7:18
  try
• 7:19
  13
• 7:19
  to
• 7:19
  15
• 7:20
  times
• 7:20
  to
• 7:20
  get
• 7:20
  a
• 7:21
  catheter
• 7:21
  in
• 7:21
  me.
• 7:21
  Are
• 7:22
  you
• 7:22
  awake
• 7:22
  for
• 7:22
  this?
• 7:23
  Yes.
• 7:23
  And
• 7:24
  they'll
• 7:24
  blow
• 7:24
  all
• 7:25
  the
• 7:25
  normal
• 7:25
  veins
• 7:26
  that
• 7:26
  they
• 7:26
  can
• 7:26
  get
• 7:26
  in.
• 7:26
  They'll
• 7:27
  blow
• 7:27
  my.
• 7:27
  The
• 7:27
  tops
• 7:28
  of
• 7:28
  my
• 7:28
  hands
• 7:28
  on
• 7:28
  both
• 7:28
  of
• 7:28
  them.
• 7:29
  They'll
• 7:29
  blow
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  crease
• 7:29
  of
• 7:30
  my
• 7:30
  arm
• 7:30
  on
• 7:30
  both
• 7:30
  of
• 7:30
  them.
• 7:31
  And
• 7:31
  so
• 7:31
  then
• 7:31
  I
• 7:31
  always
• 7:32
  have
• 7:32
  to
• 7:32
  get
• 7:32
  a
• 7:32
  catheter,
• 7:33
  like
• 7:33
  really
• 7:33
  weird
• 7:33
  on
• 7:33
  my
• 7:33
  wrist
• 7:34
  or
• 7:34
  like
• 7:34
  on
• 7:34
  my
• 7:34
  arm.
• 7:35
  Catheter.
• 7:36
  Yes,
• 7:36
  you
• 7:36
  know,
• 7:37
  a
• 7:37
  catheter
• 7:38
  for
• 7:38
  pee.
• 7:39
  Blood
• 7:40
  catheter.
• 7:41
  They're
• 7:41
  called
• 7:41
  blood
• 7:41
  catheters.
• 7:42
  There's
• 7:42
  blood.
• 7:42
  Yes,
• 7:43
  of
• 7:43
  course
• 7:44
  they
• 7:44
  are.
• 7:44
  When
• 7:45
  I
• 7:45
  think
• 7:45
  of
• 7:45
  catheter,
• 7:46
  I
• 7:46
  think
• 7:46
  of
• 7:46
  the.
• 7:47
  What
• 7:47
  they
• 7:47
  stick
• 7:47
  up
• 7:47
  your
• 7:48
  foot.
• 7:48
  I'm
• 7:48
  not.
• 7:49
  Vagina
• 7:49
  of
• 7:49
  your
• 7:49
  pee
• 7:49
  pee.
• 7:50
  Why?
• 7:51
  Because
• 7:51
  that's
• 7:51
  a
• 7:51
  catheter.
• 7:52
  That
• 7:52
  is
• 7:52
  a
• 7:53
  catheter.
• 7:53
  Oh,
• 7:54
  interesting.
• 7:54
  I
• 7:54
  don't
• 7:55
  know,
• 7:55
  I
• 7:55
  used
• 7:55
  to.
• 7:57
  This
• 7:58
  is
• 7:58
  a
• 7:58
  hilarious
• 7:59
  miscommunication.
• 7:59
  I
• 8:00
  used
• 8:00
  to
• 8:00
  babysit
• 8:01
  or
• 8:01
  not
• 8:01
  babysit,
• 8:02
  that's
• 8:02
  the
• 8:02
  very
• 8:02
  unworthy,
• 8:03
  unfair
• 8:03
  word.
• 8:03
  Because
• 8:04
  she
• 8:04
  was
• 8:04
  in
• 8:04
  her
• 8:04
  teens,
• 8:05
  but
• 8:05
  I
• 8:05
  used
• 8:05
  to
• 8:05
  help
• 8:05
  watch
• 8:06
  and
• 8:06
  take
• 8:06
  care
• 8:06
  of
• 8:06
  a
• 8:06
  girl
• 8:07
  who
• 8:08
  had
• 8:08
  spina
• 8:08
  bifida.
• 8:09
  And
• 8:09
  yeah,
• 8:10
  the
• 8:10
  catheters,
• 8:11
  okay,
• 8:12
  but
• 8:12
  me.
• 8:13
  Working
• 8:13
  in
• 8:13
  medical
• 8:14
  field,
• 8:15
  I
• 8:15
  deal
• 8:15
  a
• 8:15
  lot
• 8:16
  with
• 8:16
  blood
• 8:17
  catheters.
• 8:18
  And
• 8:19
  okay,
• 8:19
  I
• 8:19
  want
• 8:20
  to
• 8:20
  know
• 8:20
  what.
• 8:20
  Is,
• 8:21
  what
• 8:21
  comes
• 8:21
  to
• 8:21
  mind
• 8:21
  when
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  public
• 8:22
  hears
• 8:22
  of
• 8:22
  a
• 8:22
  catheter.
• 8:23
  That
• 8:23
  is
• 8:23
  so
• 8:24
  funny.
• 8:24
  Okay.
• 8:24
  I
• 8:25
  love
• 8:25
  it.
• 8:25
  Okay,
• 8:25
  so
• 8:26
  no
• 8:26
  one
• 8:26
  can,
• 8:27
  I
• 8:28
  mean,
• 8:28
  multiple
• 8:28
  times
• 8:28
  they
• 8:29
  blow
• 8:29
  all
• 8:29
  the
• 8:29
  veins
• 8:30
  all
• 8:30
  up
• 8:30
  and
• 8:30
  down
• 8:30
  my
• 8:30
  arm.
• 8:30
  Like
• 8:30
  I
• 8:31
  still
• 8:31
  have
• 8:31
  bruises
• 8:32
  from
• 8:32
  even
• 8:32
  the
• 8:32
  blood
• 8:33
  draw
• 8:33
  like
• 8:33
  three
• 8:33
  weeks
• 8:33
  ago.
• 8:34
  And
• 8:35
  oh,
• 8:35
  they
• 8:35
  were
• 8:35
  gnarly.
• 8:36
  You
• 8:37
  saw
• 8:37
  the
• 8:37
  tape
• 8:37
  bruised
• 8:38
  me
• 8:38
  the
• 8:38
  catheter.
• 8:39
  So
• 8:40
  this
• 8:40
  lady
• 8:40
  comes
• 8:40
  in,
• 8:40
  she
• 8:41
  goes,
• 8:41
  all
• 8:41
  right,
• 8:41
  I
• 8:41
  gotta
• 8:41
  put
• 8:41
  the
• 8:41
  catheter
• 8:42
  in
• 8:42
  so
• 8:42
  that
• 8:42
  we
• 8:42
  can
• 8:43
  inject
• 8:44
  the
• 8:44
  anesthesia
• 8:45
  for
• 8:45
  the
• 8:45
  colonoscopy.
• 8:46
  And
• 8:46
  I
• 8:47
  just
• 8:47
  looked
• 8:47
  at
• 8:47
  her
• 8:48
  and
• 8:48
  I
• 8:48
  was
• 8:48
  like,
• 8:49
  I
• 8:49
  need
• 8:50
  the
• 8:50
  best
• 8:51
  person
• 8:51
  here.
• 8:52
  And
• 8:52
  so
• 8:52
  of
• 8:52
  course,
• 8:53
  when
• 8:53
  someone
• 8:53
  says
• 8:53
  that
• 8:54
  to
• 8:54
  you,
• 8:54
  they're
• 8:54
  always
• 8:54
  like,
• 8:55
  I
• 8:55
  am
• 8:55
  the
• 8:55
  best
• 8:55
  person.
• 8:56
  And
• 8:56
  like,
• 8:56
  flex
• 8:56
  up.
• 8:57
  Because
• 8:57
  I
• 8:57
  would
• 8:58
  do
• 8:58
  the
• 8:58
  same.
• 8:58
  And
• 8:59
  when
• 8:59
  I
• 8:59
  worked
• 8:59
  with
• 8:59
  animals,
• 9:00
  I'd
• 9:00
  be
• 9:00
  like,
• 9:00
  no,
• 9:00
  I
• 9:00
  got
• 9:01
  it.
• 9:01
  And
• 9:03
  she,
• 9:03
  I
• 9:03
  told
• 9:04
  her,
• 9:05
  everyone
• 9:05
  blows
• 9:05
  my
• 9:05
  veins.
• 9:06
  This
• 9:07
  is
• 9:07
  what
• 9:07
  I
• 9:07
  look
• 9:07
  like.
• 9:08
  Well,
• 9:08
  where
• 9:08
  do
• 9:08
  they
• 9:08
  usually
• 9:09
  put
• 9:09
  it?
• 9:09
  She
• 9:09
  asked.
• 9:09
  And
• 9:10
  I
• 9:10
  said,
• 9:10
  usually
• 9:11
  in
• 9:11
  my
• 9:11
  wrist
• 9:11
  or
• 9:11
  my
• 9:12
  forearm
• 9:12
  is
• 9:12
  where
• 9:12
  they
• 9:13
  end
• 9:13
  up
• 9:13
  having
• 9:13
  to
• 9:13
  do
• 9:13
  it.
• 9:14
  And
• 9:14
  so
• 9:14
  she
• 9:14
  goes,
• 9:14
  okay,
• 9:15
  she
• 9:16
  got
• 9:16
  it
• 9:16
  on
• 9:16
  the
• 9:16
  first
• 9:17
  try
• 9:17
  on
• 9:17
  the
• 9:17
  side
• 9:17
  of
• 9:18
  my
• 9:18
  wrist.
• 9:18
  Holy
• 9:19
  crap.
• 9:19
  Uh
• 9:19
  huh.
• 9:20
  So
• 9:20
  her
• 9:20
  name
• 9:20
  is
• 9:20
  Tiffany.
• 9:21
  Shout
• 9:21
  out
• 9:21
  Tiffany.
• 9:22
  I
• 9:22
  told
• 9:22
  you
• 9:22
  I
• 9:22
  would
• 9:23
  Skirt.
• 9:25
  Oh,
• 9:25
  I'm
• 9:26
  so
• 9:26
  happy
• 9:26
  for
• 9:27
  giving
• 9:27
  a
• 9:27
  shout
• 9:27
  out
• 9:27
  because
• 9:28
  of
• 9:28
  her
• 9:28
  awesomeness.
• 9:29
  Yes.
• 9:30
  Tiffany
• 9:30
  from
• 9:32
  Piedmont
• 9:33
  GI
• 9:34
  In
• 9:36
  Loganville.
• 9:38
  Nice.
• 9:38
  Tiffany,
• 9:39
  you're
• 9:40
  the
• 9:40
  best.
• 9:40
  Whoa.
• 9:42
  All
• 9:43
  right,
• 9:43
  so
• 9:44
  what
• 9:44
  do
• 9:44
  we
• 9:44
  have
• 9:44
  today?
• 9:45
  All
• 9:45
  right,
• 9:45
  today.
• 9:46
  So
• 9:46
  Melissa
• 9:47
  Walker
• 9:47
  is,
• 9:48
  as
• 9:48
  you
• 9:48
  know,
• 9:48
  one
• 9:48
  of
• 9:49
  my
• 9:49
  best
• 9:49
  friends.
• 9:50
  And
• 9:50
  she
• 9:50
  was
• 9:51
  like,
• 9:51
  you
• 9:51
  guys
• 9:51
  have
• 9:52
  to
• 9:52
  speak
• 9:52
  to
• 9:52
  Laura
• 9:53
  Martinez.
• 9:54
  Laura
• 9:55
  is
• 9:55
  a
• 9:57
  intuitive
• 9:59
  shamanic
• 9:59
  practitioner,
• 10:00
  and
• 10:02
  she
• 10:02
  did
• 10:02
  not
• 10:03
  disappoint.
• 10:04
  No,
• 10:04
  it
• 10:05
  was
• 10:05
  an
• 10:06
  awesome
• 10:06
  conversation
• 10:07
  with
• 10:07
  her.
• 10:07
  I
• 10:08
  know
• 10:08
  you
• 10:08
  guys
• 10:08
  hear
• 10:08
  me
• 10:08
  say
• 10:08
  this
• 10:09
  all
• 10:09
  the
• 10:09
  time,
• 10:10
  but
• 10:10
  it
• 10:10
  was
• 10:10
  a
• 10:10
  favorite.
• 10:11
  And
• 10:12
  we
• 10:12
  did
• 10:12
  point
• 10:12
  this
• 10:13
  out
• 10:13
  in
• 10:13
  our
• 10:14
  live
• 10:15
  show
• 10:16
  that
• 10:17
  Lottie
• 10:18
  will
• 10:18
  make
• 10:18
  sense
• 10:18
  after
• 10:19
  this
• 10:19
  episode.
• 10:20
  Yep.
• 10:20
  You
• 10:21
  guys
• 10:21
  will
• 10:21
  understand.
• 10:21
  This
• 10:22
  is
• 10:22
  the
• 10:22
  original
• 10:23
  point
• 10:24
  where
• 10:24
  we
• 10:24
  decided
• 10:25
  Lottie
• 10:25
  is
• 10:25
  all
• 10:25
  of
• 10:25
  us.
• 10:26
  Yep.
• 10:26
  So
• 10:27
  cute.
• 10:28
  Yeah.
• 10:28
  So
• 10:28
  you'll
• 10:28
  get
• 10:29
  to
• 10:29
  hear
• 10:29
  how
• 10:29
  that
• 10:30
  really
• 10:30
  came
• 10:30
  about,
• 10:31
  and
• 10:31
  it's
• 10:31
  really
• 10:31
  cool.
• 10:32
  And
• 10:33
  so
• 10:34
  here
• 10:34
  she
• 10:34
  is.
• 10:35
  Give
• 10:35
  it
• 10:35
  up
• 10:35
  for
• 10:35
  Laura.
• 10:35
  Laura,
• 10:36
  go
• 10:37
  ahead
• 10:37
  and
• 10:37
  introduce
• 10:38
  yourself.
• 10:39
  Thank
• 10:39
  you
• 10:39
  for
• 10:39
  having
• 10:39
  me.
• 10:40
  You
• 10:40
  too.
• 10:40
  Such
• 10:41
  an
• 10:41
  honor
• 10:41
  to
• 10:41
  be
• 10:41
  on
• 10:42
  today.
• 10:43
  A
• 10:43
  little
• 10:43
  bit
• 10:43
  about
• 10:43
  me
• 10:44
  is
• 10:44
  I'm
• 10:44
  a
• 10:45
  shamanic
• 10:45
  healer
• 10:46
  that's
• 10:46
  been
• 10:46
  in
• 10:46
  my
• 10:47
  bloodline
• 10:47
  for
• 10:48
  a
• 10:48
  long
• 10:48
  time.
• 10:50
  Also
• 10:50
  have
• 10:51
  a
• 10:51
  master's
• 10:51
  of
• 10:52
  education
• 10:52
  in
• 10:52
  clinical
• 10:53
  mental
• 10:53
  health.
• 10:53
  So
• 10:54
  have
• 10:54
  that
• 10:54
  clinical
• 10:55
  aspect
• 10:55
  that
• 10:55
  I
• 10:55
  put
• 10:56
  in
• 10:56
  my
• 10:56
  private
• 10:56
  practice,
• 10:57
  and
• 10:58
  also
• 10:58
  have
• 10:58
  a
• 10:59
  pretty
• 10:59
  good
• 11:00
  background
• 11:00
  in
• 11:00
  neuroscience.
• 11:01
  Before
• 11:02
  going
• 11:02
  into
• 11:03
  private
• 11:03
  practice,
• 11:03
  I
• 11:04
  was
• 11:04
  a
• 11:04
  director
• 11:04
  of
• 11:04
  the
• 11:05
  neuroscience
• 11:06
  treatment
• 11:06
  center
• 11:07
  for
• 11:07
  about
• 11:07
  eight
• 11:08
  years.
• 11:08
  And
• 11:09
  so
• 11:09
  I
• 11:09
  like
• 11:09
  to
• 11:10
  merge
• 11:10
  those
• 11:11
  three
• 11:11
  types
• 11:11
  of
• 11:11
  modalities.
• 11:12
  The
• 11:12
  shamanism,
• 11:13
  the
• 11:14
  clinical
• 11:14
  mental
• 11:14
  health,
• 11:15
  and
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  neuroscience.
• 11:17
  And
• 11:18
  so
• 11:18
  I
• 11:18
  have
• 11:18
  a
• 11:18
  private
• 11:19
  practice
• 11:19
  here
• 11:19
  in
• 11:19
  Fort
• 11:20
  Worth,
• 11:20
  Texas.
• 11:20
  Mostly
• 11:21
  I
• 11:21
  see
• 11:21
  people
• 11:21
  online,
• 11:22
  like,
• 11:22
  pretty
• 11:22
  much
• 11:22
  all
• 11:23
  over
• 11:23
  the
• 11:23
  world,
• 11:23
  which
• 11:24
  is
• 11:24
  such
• 11:24
  a
• 11:24
  cool
• 11:24
  thing,
• 11:25
  and
• 11:26
  with
• 11:26
  the
• 11:26
  Internet.
• 11:27
  And
• 11:27
  I
• 11:27
  also
• 11:28
  host
• 11:28
  retreats
• 11:29
  and
• 11:29
  workshops,
• 11:30
  and
• 11:31
  I
• 11:31
  always
• 11:31
  do
• 11:31
  an
• 11:32
  international
• 11:32
  retreat
• 11:33
  every
• 11:33
  year,
• 11:34
  and
• 11:34
  I
• 11:34
  always
• 11:34
  do
• 11:35
  several
• 11:35
  local
• 11:36
  retreats
• 11:36
  in
• 11:36
  the
• 11:37
  year.
• 11:38
  What
• 11:39
  are
• 11:39
  these
• 11:39
  retreats?
• 11:40
  They're
• 11:40
  different.
• 11:41
  I
• 11:41
  have
• 11:41
  one
• 11:42
  actually
• 11:42
  coming
• 11:42
  up
• 11:43
  in
• 11:43
  November,
• 11:44
  and
• 11:44
  it's
• 11:44
  a
• 11:44
  shamanic
• 11:45
  training
• 11:45
  retreat.
• 11:46
  So
• 11:46
  teaching
• 11:47
  other
• 11:47
  practitioners
• 11:48
  how
• 11:48
  to
• 11:48
  use
• 11:48
  shamanic
• 11:49
  medicine
• 11:50
  merged
• 11:50
  with
• 11:50
  whatever
• 11:51
  practice
• 11:51
  that
• 11:52
  they
• 11:52
  have.
• 11:52
  Like,
• 11:52
  I
• 11:52
  have
• 11:53
  a
• 11:55
  mental
• 11:55
  health
• 11:55
  therapist
• 11:56
  that's
• 11:56
  coming
• 11:56
  on
• 11:57
  this
• 11:57
  trip,
• 11:57
  and
• 11:57
  then
• 11:58
  I've
• 11:58
  got
• 11:58
  a
• 11:58
  doctoral
• 11:59
  student
• 11:59
  who's
• 11:59
  coming,
• 12:00
  and
• 12:01
  then
• 12:01
  a
• 12:01
  yoga
• 12:02
  instructor
• 12:02
  and
• 12:03
  then
• 12:03
  a
• 12:03
  Pilates
• 12:03
  instructor.
• 12:04
  So
• 12:04
  all
• 12:05
  looking
• 12:05
  to
• 12:06
  merge
• 12:06
  shamanism
• 12:07
  in
• 12:07
  the
• 12:07
  work
• 12:07
  that
• 12:07
  they
• 12:08
  do.
• 12:08
  So
• 12:09
  this
• 12:09
  one
• 12:09
  that's
• 12:10
  coming
• 12:10
  up
• 12:10
  is
• 12:10
  a
• 12:10
  shamanic
• 12:11
  training
• 12:11
  retreat.
• 12:12
  Okay,
• 12:13
  can
• 12:13
  you
• 12:13
  give
• 12:13
  us
• 12:13
  just,
• 12:13
  like,
• 12:14
  a
• 12:14
  real
• 12:14
  quick
• 12:14
  rundown
• 12:15
  a
• 12:16
  little
• 12:16
  bit
• 12:16
  about
• 12:16
  shamanism?
• 12:17
  I
• 12:18
  did
• 12:18
  want
• 12:18
  to
• 12:18
  ask
• 12:18
  one
• 12:19
  specific
• 12:19
  question
• 12:20
  when
• 12:20
  we
• 12:21
  were
• 12:21
  talking
• 12:21
  to
• 12:21
  you,
• 12:23
  like,
• 12:23
  before
• 12:24
  we
• 12:24
  did
• 12:24
  our
• 12:24
  little
• 12:24
  interview
• 12:25
  and
• 12:25
  with
• 12:26
  each
• 12:26
  other
• 12:27
  to
• 12:27
  See
• 12:27
  if
• 12:27
  we'd
• 12:27
  be
• 12:27
  good
• 12:28
  match
• 12:28
  for
• 12:28
  each
• 12:28
  other.
• 12:29
  And
• 12:30
  one
• 12:30
  thing
• 12:30
  that
• 12:31
  you
• 12:31
  had
• 12:31
  said
• 12:31
  was,
• 12:32
  I
• 12:33
  am
• 12:33
  a
• 12:33
  shamanic
• 12:33
  practitioner.
• 12:35
  And
• 12:35
  you
• 12:35
  said
• 12:35
  something
• 12:35
  to
• 12:35
  the
• 12:36
  effect
• 12:36
  of
• 12:36
  like,
• 12:36
  you
• 12:36
  don't
• 12:36
  go
• 12:37
  call
• 12:37
  yourself
• 12:37
  a
• 12:37
  shaman.
• 12:38
  So
• 12:39
  I
• 12:39
  was
• 12:39
  wondering
• 12:39
  if
• 12:39
  there's
• 12:39
  a
• 12:40
  difference
• 12:40
  there.
• 12:40
  Yeah.
• 12:41
  You
• 12:42
  want
• 12:42
  to
• 12:42
  be
• 12:42
  really.
• 12:42
  You
• 12:43
  want
• 12:43
  to
• 12:43
  treat
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  shamanic
• 12:44
  medicine
• 12:45
  with
• 12:45
  a
• 12:46
  sense
• 12:46
  of
• 12:46
  sacredness
• 12:47
  and
• 12:47
  not
• 12:47
  a
• 12:47
  sense
• 12:47
  of
• 12:48
  ego.
• 12:49
  So
• 12:49
  when
• 12:50
  people
• 12:51
  label
• 12:52
  themselves
• 12:52
  as
• 12:53
  any
• 12:53
  label.
• 12:53
  Right.
• 12:54
  That
• 12:54
  can.
• 12:54
  That's
• 12:55
  already
• 12:55
  an
• 12:55
  ego
• 12:56
  statement.
• 12:56
  It's
• 12:57
  an
• 12:57
  identification
• 12:58
  of
• 12:59
  what
• 12:59
  you
• 13:00
  think
• 13:00
  you
• 13:00
  are.
• 13:01
  And
• 13:01
  so
• 13:01
  I
• 13:02
  just
• 13:02
  like
• 13:02
  to
• 13:02
  say
• 13:02
  that
• 13:02
  I
• 13:03
  work
• 13:03
  with
• 13:03
  shamanic.
• 13:04
  Shamanic
• 13:04
  medicine
• 13:05
  instead
• 13:05
  of
• 13:06
  saying
• 13:06
  I'm
• 13:06
  a
• 13:06
  shaman,
• 13:07
  because
• 13:07
  that
• 13:08
  comes
• 13:08
  with
• 13:08
  a
• 13:09
  lot
• 13:09
  of
• 13:10
  implications
• 13:10
  in
• 13:10
  it.
• 13:11
  And
• 13:11
  I
• 13:12
  would
• 13:12
  never
• 13:12
  call
• 13:12
  myself
• 13:12
  a
• 13:13
  shaman,
• 13:13
  but
• 13:13
  I
• 13:13
  do
• 13:14
  work
• 13:14
  with
• 13:14
  the
• 13:14
  medicine.
• 13:15
  I
• 13:15
  think
• 13:16
  that
• 13:17
  for
• 13:17
  me,
• 13:17
  it's
• 13:18
  in
• 13:18
  my
• 13:18
  bloodline,
• 13:18
  and
• 13:19
  it's
• 13:19
  something
• 13:19
  that.
• 13:21
  It's
• 13:21
  been
• 13:22
  done
• 13:22
  for
• 13:22
  many,
• 13:23
  many
• 13:23
  years.
• 13:24
  And
• 13:24
  it's
• 13:25
  just
• 13:25
  something
• 13:25
  that
• 13:25
  you
• 13:26
  hold
• 13:26
  sacred.
• 13:26
  And
• 13:27
  sometimes
• 13:27
  people
• 13:28
  use
• 13:28
  labels
• 13:29
  to
• 13:29
  get
• 13:30
  some
• 13:30
  sort
• 13:30
  of
• 13:30
  esteem.
• 13:31
  That
• 13:31
  makes
• 13:31
  sense.
• 13:33
  Yeah,
• 13:34
  no,
• 13:34
  it
• 13:35
  does,
• 13:35
  actually.
• 13:36
  I
• 13:36
  wondered
• 13:36
  if
• 13:36
  it
• 13:36
  had
• 13:37
  anything
• 13:37
  to
• 13:37
  do
• 13:37
  with
• 13:37
  maybe
• 13:38
  like,
• 13:38
  appropriation
• 13:39
  of
• 13:39
  some
• 13:39
  sort.
• 13:40
  But
• 13:40
  it
• 13:40
  sounds
• 13:40
  like
• 13:40
  it's
• 13:40
  been
• 13:41
  in
• 13:41
  your
• 13:41
  bloodline
• 13:42
  anyway.
• 13:43
  So
• 13:43
  it's
• 13:43
  more
• 13:44
  about
• 13:44
  the
• 13:44
  sacredness.
• 13:45
  Oh,
• 13:45
  yeah.
• 13:46
  With
• 13:47
  that,
• 13:47
  can
• 13:47
  you
• 13:48
  explain
• 13:48
  to
• 13:48
  all
• 13:48
  of
• 13:49
  us
• 13:49
  what
• 13:49
  the
• 13:50
  shamanic
• 13:50
  practice
• 13:51
  looks
• 13:51
  like
• 13:51
  for
• 13:51
  you
• 13:52
  and
• 13:52
  how
• 13:52
  that
• 13:53
  differs
• 13:53
  from
• 13:53
  the
• 13:54
  traditional
• 13:54
  therapy?
• 13:54
  Sure,
• 13:55
  yeah.
• 13:55
  So
• 13:56
  shamanism
• 13:57
  is.
• 13:57
  A
• 13:57
  lot
• 13:57
  of
• 13:57
  people
• 13:57
  think
• 13:57
  it's.
• 13:58
  It's
• 13:58
  a
• 13:58
  spirituality
• 13:59
  or
• 13:59
  a
• 13:59
  religion,
• 14:00
  and
• 14:00
  it's
• 14:00
  not
• 14:01
  really
• 14:01
  anything
• 14:02
  like
• 14:02
  that.
• 14:02
  It
• 14:03
  actually
• 14:03
  is
• 14:03
  a
• 14:03
  mechanism
• 14:04
  of
• 14:04
  healing,
• 14:05
  and
• 14:05
  it's
• 14:05
  a
• 14:05
  belief
• 14:06
  that
• 14:06
  we
• 14:07
  have
• 14:07
  all
• 14:07
  the
• 14:07
  resources
• 14:08
  on
• 14:08
  our
• 14:09
  body
• 14:09
  and
• 14:09
  in
• 14:09
  nature
• 14:10
  to
• 14:10
  heal
• 14:10
  ourselves.
• 14:11
  So
• 14:12
  my
• 14:12
  job
• 14:13
  as
• 14:13
  the
• 14:13
  shamanic
• 14:14
  practitioner
• 14:14
  is
• 14:14
  to
• 14:15
  help
• 14:15
  the
• 14:15
  client
• 14:16
  find
• 14:16
  their
• 14:17
  own
• 14:17
  internal
• 14:17
  medicine
• 14:18
  and
• 14:18
  heal
• 14:18
  themselves.
• 14:19
  And
• 14:20
  so
• 14:20
  what
• 14:20
  that
• 14:20
  might
• 14:21
  look
• 14:21
  like
• 14:21
  is
• 14:22
  looking
• 14:23
  at
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  resources
• 14:24
  they
• 14:24
  have
• 14:24
  on
• 14:24
  their
• 14:25
  body.
• 14:25
  Like,
• 14:25
  of
• 14:25
  course,
• 14:26
  our
• 14:26
  breath
• 14:26
  is
• 14:26
  such
• 14:27
  a
• 14:27
  powerful
• 14:27
  mechanism
• 14:28
  of
• 14:28
  healing,
• 14:29
  and
• 14:29
  the
• 14:29
  way
• 14:30
  that
• 14:30
  we
• 14:30
  breathe
• 14:31
  is
• 14:31
  going
• 14:31
  to
• 14:31
  substantially
• 14:32
  change
• 14:32
  the
• 14:32
  way
• 14:33
  we
• 14:33
  live
• 14:33
  our
• 14:33
  life.
• 14:33
  So
• 14:34
  using
• 14:35
  the
• 14:35
  breath,
• 14:35
  using
• 14:36
  nature,
• 14:37
  using
• 14:38
  a
• 14:38
  belief
• 14:39
  system,
• 14:39
  perception.
• 14:41
  I
• 14:41
  also
• 14:41
  love
• 14:42
  using
• 14:43
  ceremony
• 14:43
  and
• 14:43
  ritual,
• 14:44
  which
• 14:44
  is
• 14:45
  allowing
• 14:46
  the
• 14:46
  client
• 14:46
  to
• 14:46
  have
• 14:47
  some
• 14:47
  sort
• 14:47
  of
• 14:47
  intention
• 14:49
  in
• 14:49
  the
• 14:49
  work
• 14:49
  that
• 14:50
  they're
• 14:50
  doing.
• 14:50
  Right.
• 14:51
  So
• 14:52
  I'll
• 14:52
  give
• 14:52
  you
• 14:52
  an
• 14:52
  example,
• 14:53
  because
• 14:53
  people
• 14:53
  love
• 14:54
  examples.
• 14:54
  Thank
• 14:54
  you.
• 14:56
  Sometimes
• 14:56
  it
• 14:56
  can
• 14:56
  sound
• 14:57
  so
• 14:57
  abstract
• 14:57
  if
• 14:58
  you
• 14:58
  don't
• 14:58
  have
• 14:58
  an
• 14:58
  example,
• 14:59
  but.
• 14:59
  But
• 15:00
  it
• 15:00
  does.
• 15:01
  Yeah.
• 15:01
  At
• 15:01
  one
• 15:02
  time
• 15:02
  I
• 15:02
  had
• 15:02
  a
• 15:02
  client
• 15:03
  and
• 15:04
  who
• 15:05
  was
• 15:05
  just
• 15:05
  totally
• 15:06
  out
• 15:06
  of
• 15:06
  alignment
• 15:07
  with
• 15:07
  their
• 15:08
  purpose
• 15:08
  and
• 15:09
  their
• 15:09
  medicine.
• 15:10
  So
• 15:11
  what
• 15:11
  I
• 15:11
  believe
• 15:12
  is,
• 15:12
  I
• 15:12
  believe
• 15:12
  that
• 15:13
  each
• 15:14
  person
• 15:14
  has
• 15:15
  medicine
• 15:15
  that's
• 15:16
  unique,
• 15:16
  almost
• 15:17
  like
• 15:17
  a
• 15:17
  fingerprint.
• 15:18
  That's
• 15:18
  how
• 15:18
  unique
• 15:18
  our
• 15:18
  medicine
• 15:19
  is.
• 15:20
  But
• 15:20
  we
• 15:20
  have
• 15:20
  this
• 15:21
  tendency
• 15:21
  to
• 15:21
  replicate
• 15:22
  the
• 15:23
  same
• 15:24
  careers,
• 15:24
  right?
• 15:25
  And
• 15:25
  we
• 15:25
  do
• 15:25
  them
• 15:25
  the
• 15:26
  same
• 15:26
  way.
• 15:26
  If
• 15:26
  you're
• 15:26
  a
• 15:27
  mental
• 15:27
  health
• 15:27
  therapist,
• 15:28
  then
• 15:28
  you're
• 15:29
  going
• 15:29
  to
• 15:29
  go
• 15:29
  to
• 15:29
  school
• 15:29
  and
• 15:29
  you're
• 15:30
  going
• 15:30
  to
• 15:30
  get
• 15:30
  an
• 15:30
  education
• 15:31
  and
• 15:31
  then
• 15:31
  you're
• 15:31
  going
• 15:31
  to
• 15:31
  go
• 15:31
  get
• 15:32
  licensure,
• 15:32
  and
• 15:32
  you're
• 15:33
  just
• 15:33
  going
• 15:33
  to
• 15:33
  fit
• 15:33
  in
• 15:34
  these
• 15:34
  boxes
• 15:34
  that
• 15:34
  have
• 15:34
  already
• 15:35
  been
• 15:35
  formed.
• 15:35
  Right.
• 15:37
  And
• 15:37
  so
• 15:38
  this
• 15:39
  client
• 15:39
  in
• 15:39
  particular
• 15:40
  was
• 15:40
  a
• 15:40
  lawyer,
• 15:41
  and
• 15:41
  he
• 15:42
  had
• 15:42
  become
• 15:42
  a
• 15:42
  lawyer
• 15:43
  for
• 15:43
  generations
• 15:44
  because
• 15:45
  of
• 15:46
  what
• 15:46
  his
• 15:46
  father
• 15:47
  did,
• 15:47
  what
• 15:47
  his
• 15:47
  grandfather
• 15:48
  did.
• 15:48
  And
• 15:49
  he
• 15:49
  was
• 15:49
  just
• 15:49
  absolutely
• 15:50
  miserable.
• 15:51
  And
• 15:51
  it
• 15:51
  wasn't
• 15:51
  just
• 15:52
  only
• 15:52
  the
• 15:52
  career,
• 15:53
  it
• 15:53
  was
• 15:53
  also
• 15:54
  the
• 15:54
  way
• 15:54
  he
• 15:54
  was
• 15:54
  living
• 15:54
  his
• 15:55
  life
• 15:55
  as
• 15:55
  well.
• 15:56
  So
• 15:56
  I
• 15:57
  really
• 15:57
  like
• 15:57
  to
• 15:58
  take
• 15:58
  a
• 15:58
  client
• 15:58
  and
• 15:59
  figure
• 16:00
  out
• 16:00
  how
• 16:00
  we
• 16:00
  can
• 16:00
  go
• 16:00
  into
• 16:01
  alignment
• 16:01
  with
• 16:02
  the
• 16:02
  way
• 16:02
  they
• 16:02
  live
• 16:02
  their
• 16:02
  life.
• 16:03
  So
• 16:03
  that's
• 16:04
  everything
• 16:04
  from
• 16:05
  what
• 16:05
  are
• 16:05
  you
• 16:05
  consuming
• 16:06
  on
• 16:06
  tv,
• 16:06
  what
• 16:06
  are
• 16:07
  you
• 16:07
  eating,
• 16:07
  what
• 16:07
  are
• 16:07
  you
• 16:07
  drinking,
• 16:08
  what
• 16:09
  kind
• 16:09
  of
• 16:09
  people
• 16:09
  are
• 16:09
  you
• 16:10
  surrounding
• 16:10
  yourself
• 16:11
  with?
• 16:11
  How
• 16:12
  can
• 16:13
  come
• 16:13
  back
• 16:13
  to
• 16:14
  your
• 16:14
  authentic
• 16:14
  self
• 16:15
  by
• 16:15
  being
• 16:15
  in
• 16:15
  nature,
• 16:16
  by
• 16:17
  changing
• 16:17
  the
• 16:17
  way
• 16:17
  you
• 16:17
  breathe,
• 16:18
  by
• 16:18
  changing
• 16:18
  your
• 16:18
  morning
• 16:19
  routine.
• 16:19
  So
• 16:20
  really
• 16:20
  looking
• 16:21
  at
• 16:22
  how
• 16:22
  can
• 16:22
  you
• 16:22
  really
• 16:22
  tap
• 16:23
  into
• 16:23
  authenticity
• 16:24
  inside
• 16:24
  of
• 16:25
  you?
• 16:25
  And
• 16:26
  so
• 16:26
  I
• 16:26
  think
• 16:26
  a
• 16:26
  big
• 16:26
  part
• 16:27
  of
• 16:27
  that
• 16:27
  is
• 16:27
  really
• 16:28
  going
• 16:28
  into
• 16:28
  alignment
• 16:29
  with
• 16:29
  the
• 16:30
  way
• 16:30
  that
• 16:30
  they
• 16:30
  live
• 16:30
  their
• 16:31
  life
• 16:31
  and
• 16:31
  how
• 16:32
  that
• 16:32
  feels
• 16:32
  good
• 16:33
  for
• 16:33
  them.
• 16:33
  So
• 16:34
  another
• 16:35
  example
• 16:35
  of
• 16:35
  that
• 16:36
  is
• 16:36
  almost
• 16:36
  like
• 16:37
  I
• 16:38
  had
• 16:38
  a
• 16:38
  client
• 16:38
  that
• 16:38
  was
• 16:38
  like,
• 16:39
  okay,
• 16:39
  I've
• 16:39
  been
• 16:39
  waking
• 16:40
  up,
• 16:40
  I've
• 16:40
  been
• 16:40
  doing
• 16:40
  yoga,
• 16:41
  I've
• 16:41
  been
• 16:41
  journaling,
• 16:41
  and
• 16:42
  I've
• 16:42
  been
• 16:42
  meditating,
• 16:43
  and
• 16:43
  I
• 16:43
  still
• 16:44
  don't
• 16:44
  really
• 16:44
  feel
• 16:44
  good.
• 16:45
  And
• 16:45
  I
• 16:45
  said,
• 16:45
  well,
• 16:45
  do
• 16:46
  those
• 16:46
  things
• 16:46
  feel
• 16:46
  good
• 16:46
  to
• 16:46
  you
• 16:47
  to
• 16:47
  do?
• 16:47
  And
• 16:47
  she
• 16:48
  said,
• 16:48
  no,
• 16:49
  not
• 16:49
  really.
• 16:49
  I
• 16:49
  said,
• 16:49
  then
• 16:49
  why
• 16:49
  are
• 16:49
  you
• 16:50
  doing
• 16:50
  them?
• 16:51
  And
• 16:51
  she,
• 16:52
  she
• 16:52
  said,
• 16:52
  because
• 16:53
  that's
• 16:53
  what
• 16:53
  I've.
• 16:53
  You
• 16:53
  know,
• 16:53
  what
• 16:54
  I
• 16:54
  hear
• 16:54
  feels
• 16:54
  good.
• 16:55
  I'm
• 16:55
  like,
• 16:55
  no,
• 16:55
  you
• 16:55
  gotta
• 16:56
  find
• 16:56
  what.
• 16:56
  Feels
• 16:56
  good
• 16:57
  to
• 16:57
  your
• 16:57
  body.
• 16:58
  Maybe
• 16:58
  that's
• 16:59
  going
• 16:59
  outside
• 16:59
  on
• 16:59
  a
• 17:00
  walk
• 17:00
  in
• 17:00
  the
• 17:00
  morning,
• 17:00
  or
• 17:00
  maybe
• 17:01
  it's
• 17:01
  just
• 17:01
  like
• 17:01
  having
• 17:02
  a
• 17:02
  complete
• 17:02
  silent
• 17:03
  home
• 17:03
  for
• 17:03
  five
• 17:03
  minutes.
• 17:04
  Like,
• 17:04
  whatever.
• 17:04
  It
• 17:05
  is,
• 17:05
  like
• 17:05
  you
• 17:05
  have
• 17:06
  what
• 17:06
  a
• 17:06
  life
• 17:06
  is.
• 17:08
  Yeah,
• 17:09
  we're
• 17:10
  kind
• 17:10
  of.
• 17:10
  We
• 17:10
  are
• 17:11
  really
• 17:11
  learning
• 17:11
  that
• 17:11
  there
• 17:11
  are
• 17:12
  just
• 17:12
  so
• 17:12
  many
• 17:13
  different
• 17:13
  ways.
• 17:13
  It's
• 17:13
  kind
• 17:13
  of
• 17:13
  like
• 17:13
  a
• 17:14
  kid
• 17:14
  in
• 17:14
  school,
• 17:14
  not
• 17:14
  all
• 17:14
  the
• 17:15
  kids
• 17:15
  are
• 17:15
  going
• 17:15
  to
• 17:15
  learn
• 17:15
  the
• 17:15
  same,
• 17:16
  Right?
• 17:16
  And
• 17:17
  we're
• 17:17
  like
• 17:17
  that
• 17:17
  in
• 17:18
  our
• 17:18
  adult
• 17:19
  lives
• 17:19
  also.
• 17:20
  And
• 17:20
  there
• 17:20
  are
• 17:21
  so
• 17:21
  many
• 17:21
  things
• 17:22
  that
• 17:22
  can
• 17:22
  be
• 17:22
  useful
• 17:23
  and
• 17:23
  good
• 17:23
  practices,
• 17:25
  maybe
• 17:25
  they're
• 17:25
  amazing
• 17:26
  for
• 17:26
  one
• 17:26
  person
• 17:26
  and
• 17:26
  maybe
• 17:27
  they're
• 17:27
  not
• 17:27
  amazing
• 17:27
  for
• 17:28
  another,
• 17:28
  but
• 17:29
  you
• 17:29
  kind
• 17:29
  of
• 17:29
  have
• 17:29
  to
• 17:29
  find
• 17:30
  what
• 17:30
  works
• 17:30
  for
• 17:30
  you.
• 17:30
  And
• 17:31
  it
• 17:31
  sounds
• 17:31
  like
• 17:31
  that's
• 17:31
  what
• 17:31
  you
• 17:32
  do
• 17:32
  with
• 17:32
  your
• 17:32
  shamanic
• 17:34
  practice
• 17:34
  a
• 17:35
  lot
• 17:35
  is
• 17:35
  trying
• 17:35
  to
• 17:35
  find
• 17:35
  that
• 17:35
  authentic
• 17:36
  self.
• 17:36
  Yeah,
• 17:37
  yeah.
• 17:37
  So
• 17:37
  that's
• 17:38
  kind
• 17:38
  of
• 17:38
  like
• 17:38
  the
• 17:38
  surface
• 17:38
  of
• 17:39
  it
• 17:39
  for
• 17:39
  sure,
• 17:39
  is
• 17:39
  getting
• 17:40
  people
• 17:40
  into
• 17:40
  alignment.
• 17:41
  And
• 17:41
  then
• 17:41
  we
• 17:41
  start
• 17:42
  doing
• 17:42
  work
• 17:42
  like
• 17:43
  finding
• 17:43
  spirit
• 17:44
  guides
• 17:44
  and
• 17:45
  spirit
• 17:45
  animals,
• 17:46
  taking
• 17:46
  them
• 17:47
  on
• 17:47
  a
• 17:47
  shamanic
• 17:47
  journey,
• 17:48
  which
• 17:48
  is
• 17:48
  also
• 17:49
  the
• 17:49
  flight
• 17:49
  of
• 17:49
  the
• 17:49
  soul.
• 17:50
  And
• 17:51
  so
• 17:52
  in
• 17:52
  the
• 17:52
  shamanic
• 17:53
  practice,
• 17:53
  your
• 17:53
  soul
• 17:54
  has
• 17:54
  the
• 17:54
  ability
• 17:54
  to
• 17:55
  leave
• 17:55
  your
• 17:55
  body.
• 17:56
  Right.
• 17:56
  Your
• 17:56
  soul
• 17:57
  is
• 17:58
  inside
• 17:59
  of
• 17:59
  your
• 17:59
  body,
• 17:59
  but
• 18:00
  it
• 18:00
  has
• 18:00
  the
• 18:00
  ability
• 18:01
  to
• 18:01
  fly
• 18:02
  into
• 18:02
  Rome.
• 18:02
  And
• 18:02
  so
• 18:03
  with
• 18:03
  the
• 18:03
  shamanic
• 18:04
  journey,
• 18:04
  we're
• 18:05
  really
• 18:05
  attempting
• 18:06
  to
• 18:06
  allow
• 18:07
  that
• 18:07
  soul
• 18:07
  to
• 18:08
  take
• 18:08
  flight.
• 18:09
  And
• 18:09
  usually
• 18:10
  what
• 18:10
  happens
• 18:10
  in
• 18:10
  shamanic
• 18:11
  journeys
• 18:12
  is
• 18:13
  things
• 18:13
  come
• 18:14
  up
• 18:14
  that
• 18:15
  need
• 18:15
  to
• 18:15
  be
• 18:15
  worked
• 18:15
  with.
• 18:16
  So
• 18:16
  whether
• 18:16
  that's
• 18:17
  inner
• 18:18
  child
• 18:18
  work,
• 18:18
  or
• 18:19
  maybe
• 18:19
  this
• 18:20
  is
• 18:20
  the
• 18:20
  cathartic,
• 18:21
  beautiful
• 18:21
  spiritual
• 18:22
  experience
• 18:22
  that
• 18:23
  somebody
• 18:23
  needed.
• 18:23
  Right.
• 18:24
  And
• 18:24
  finding
• 18:24
  a
• 18:24
  relative
• 18:25
  that's
• 18:25
  passed.
• 18:26
  And
• 18:26
  so
• 18:27
  all
• 18:27
  kinds
• 18:27
  of
• 18:28
  different
• 18:28
  things
• 18:28
  can
• 18:28
  happen
• 18:28
  during
• 18:29
  a
• 18:29
  shamanic
• 18:29
  journey.
• 18:30
  But,
• 18:30
  yeah,
• 18:31
  the
• 18:31
  surface
• 18:31
  of
• 18:31
  it
• 18:32
  is
• 18:32
  really
• 18:32
  getting
• 18:32
  someone
• 18:33
  into
• 18:33
  alignment
• 18:33
  and
• 18:34
  starting
• 18:34
  to
• 18:34
  live
• 18:34
  their
• 18:35
  authentication
• 18:35
  life,
• 18:35
  and
• 18:36
  then
• 18:36
  we
• 18:36
  can
• 18:36
  dig
• 18:36
  deeper.
• 18:37
  Okay.
• 18:40
  Okay.
• 18:41
  That's
• 18:41
  amazing,
• 18:42
  actually.
• 18:43
  So
• 18:43
  what
• 18:43
  is
• 18:44
  the
• 18:44
  ritual
• 18:44
  part
• 18:44
  of
• 18:45
  that?
• 18:45
  Is
• 18:45
  that
• 18:46
  the
• 18:46
  ritual
• 18:46
  part
• 18:47
  is
• 18:47
  just
• 18:48
  finding
• 18:48
  what
• 18:49
  feels
• 18:49
  good
• 18:49
  to
• 18:49
  you?
• 18:50
  Or
• 18:50
  is
• 18:50
  it
• 18:50
  like
• 18:51
  actually
• 18:52
  a
• 18:52
  practice
• 18:52
  of
• 18:52
  something?
• 18:53
  So,
• 18:54
  yeah,
• 18:54
  rituals
• 18:55
  can
• 18:55
  be
• 18:56
  basically
• 18:56
  anything.
• 18:57
  It
• 18:58
  just
• 18:58
  really,
• 18:59
  the
• 18:59
  whole
• 19:00
  purpose
• 19:00
  behind
• 19:00
  a
• 19:01
  ritual
• 19:01
  is
• 19:02
  to
• 19:02
  be
• 19:02
  intentional
• 19:03
  about
• 19:03
  it.
• 19:04
  So.
• 19:05
  So
• 19:06
  I'll
• 19:06
  give
• 19:06
  you
• 19:06
  an
• 19:06
  example.
• 19:07
  I
• 19:07
  had
• 19:07
  a
• 19:07
  client
• 19:08
  who
• 19:08
  was
• 19:09
  having
• 19:09
  a
• 19:09
  hard
• 19:09
  time
• 19:09
  with
• 19:09
  a
• 19:10
  breakup,
• 19:10
  and
• 19:11
  the
• 19:11
  breakup
• 19:11
  had
• 19:11
  been
• 19:12
  about
• 19:12
  three
• 19:12
  years,
• 19:13
  and
• 19:13
  he
• 19:13
  could
• 19:13
  not
• 19:14
  stop
• 19:14
  thinking
• 19:15
  about
• 19:15
  this
• 19:15
  woman.
• 19:16
  And
• 19:17
  in
• 19:17
  evaluating,
• 19:18
  from
• 19:18
  a
• 19:19
  clinical
• 19:19
  mental
• 19:19
  health
• 19:20
  standpoint,
• 19:21
  the
• 19:21
  relationship
• 19:22
  was
• 19:22
  really
• 19:22
  toxic.
• 19:23
  And
• 19:23
  it
• 19:23
  was
• 19:23
  not.
• 19:24
  It
• 19:24
  wasn't
• 19:25
  like
• 19:25
  a
• 19:25
  type
• 19:25
  of
• 19:25
  love
• 19:26
  story
• 19:26
  that
• 19:26
  we
• 19:26
  seen
• 19:26
  in
• 19:27
  80s
• 19:27
  movie
• 19:27
  where
• 19:27
  you
• 19:28
  should
• 19:28
  go
• 19:28
  after
• 19:28
  the
• 19:28
  girl
• 19:29
  with
• 19:29
  them,
• 19:29
  stand
• 19:30
  with
• 19:30
  the
• 19:30
  radio
• 19:30
  on
• 19:31
  top
• 19:31
  of
• 19:31
  your
• 19:31
  head.
• 19:31
  Like,
• 19:31
  it
• 19:31
  wasn't
• 19:33
  relationship
• 19:34
  at
• 19:34
  all.
• 19:34
  Like,
• 19:35
  he
• 19:36
  was
• 19:36
  an
• 19:36
  active
• 19:37
  addiction.
• 19:37
  And
• 19:37
  there
• 19:37
  was
• 19:37
  all
• 19:38
  kinds
• 19:38
  of
• 19:38
  toxic
• 19:39
  things
• 19:39
  that
• 19:40
  he
• 19:40
  played
• 19:40
  a
• 19:40
  role
• 19:40
  with,
• 19:41
  with
• 19:41
  being
• 19:41
  very
• 19:42
  codependent
• 19:42
  in
• 19:42
  that
• 19:43
  relationship.
• 19:43
  So,
• 19:44
  you
• 19:44
  know,
• 19:44
  we
• 19:45
  did
• 19:45
  a
• 19:45
  ritual
• 19:45
  on,
• 19:46
  okay,
• 19:47
  how
• 19:47
  can
• 19:47
  we
• 19:47
  let
• 19:48
  go
• 19:48
  of
• 19:49
  that
• 19:49
  person?
• 19:50
  And
• 19:50
  what
• 19:50
  does
• 19:50
  this
• 19:50
  person
• 19:51
  mean
• 19:51
  to
• 19:51
  you?
• 19:51
  Like,
• 19:52
  there's
• 19:52
  some
• 19:52
  sort
• 19:52
  of
• 19:53
  symbol
• 19:53
  that
• 19:53
  that
• 19:54
  person
• 19:54
  has
• 19:54
  that
• 19:55
  has
• 19:55
  you
• 19:55
  locked
• 19:56
  in,
• 19:56
  because
• 19:56
  it's
• 19:56
  not
• 19:57
  the
• 19:57
  actual
• 19:57
  relationship.
• 19:58
  The
• 19:58
  actual
• 19:58
  relationship
• 19:59
  was.
• 19:59
  Was
• 19:59
  no
• 19:59
  good.
• 20:00
  And
• 20:01
  so
• 20:02
  in
• 20:02
  a
• 20:02
  ritual,
• 20:02
  what
• 20:03
  we're
• 20:03
  looking
• 20:03
  at
• 20:03
  is
• 20:04
  what
• 20:04
  does
• 20:04
  she
• 20:04
  represent
• 20:05
  to
• 20:05
  you?
• 20:06
  And
• 20:06
  so
• 20:06
  she,
• 20:07
  for
• 20:07
  him,
• 20:08
  represented
• 20:09
  romance.
• 20:10
  His
• 20:10
  parents
• 20:11
  had
• 20:11
  been
• 20:11
  married
• 20:11
  for
• 20:12
  a
• 20:12
  long
• 20:12
  time,
• 20:13
  and
• 20:13
  he
• 20:13
  really
• 20:14
  wanted
• 20:14
  that
• 20:15
  long
• 20:15
  romantic
• 20:16
  relationship.
• 20:17
  And
• 20:17
  he
• 20:18
  had
• 20:18
  put
• 20:18
  all
• 20:18
  of
• 20:18
  his
• 20:19
  hope
• 20:19
  that
• 20:19
  this
• 20:19
  is
• 20:19
  the
• 20:19
  one
• 20:20
  that
• 20:20
  was
• 20:20
  going
• 20:20
  to
• 20:20
  give
• 20:20
  him
• 20:21
  that.
• 20:21
  And
• 20:22
  so
• 20:23
  once
• 20:23
  we're
• 20:23
  able
• 20:23
  to
• 20:23
  find
• 20:24
  the
• 20:24
  symbol
• 20:24
  of
• 20:24
  what
• 20:24
  the
• 20:25
  person
• 20:25
  means,
• 20:26
  the
• 20:27
  trauma
• 20:27
  event
• 20:28
  means,
• 20:28
  what
• 20:28
  a
• 20:29
  situation
• 20:29
  means,
• 20:30
  then
• 20:30
  we
• 20:31
  can
• 20:31
  kind
• 20:31
  of
• 20:31
  unlock
• 20:32
  that
• 20:32
  imagery
• 20:33
  in
• 20:33
  the
• 20:33
  mind.
• 20:34
  Right.
• 20:34
  And.
• 20:36
  Okay.
• 20:37
  Because
• 20:37
  we
• 20:37
  do
• 20:38
  have
• 20:38
  a
• 20:38
  problem
• 20:38
  as
• 20:39
  humans
• 20:39
  with
• 20:39
  wanting
• 20:39
  to
• 20:40
  label
• 20:40
  everything.
• 20:41
  Right?
• 20:42
  Yeah.
• 20:42
  Like,
• 20:43
  if
• 20:43
  we've
• 20:43
  met,
• 20:44
  you
• 20:44
  know,
• 20:44
  in
• 20:44
  dating,
• 20:45
  for
• 20:45
  instance,
• 20:45
  I
• 20:45
  have
• 20:45
  a
• 20:46
  lot
• 20:46
  of
• 20:46
  clients
• 20:46
  that
• 20:46
  are
• 20:46
  dating
• 20:47
  right
• 20:47
  now,
• 20:47
  and
• 20:48
  they'll
• 20:48
  go
• 20:48
  into
• 20:49
  the
• 20:49
  date
• 20:49
  and
• 20:49
  they'll
• 20:49
  think,
• 20:50
  is
• 20:50
  this
• 20:50
  my
• 20:50
  person?
• 20:51
  Is
• 20:51
  this
• 20:51
  my
• 20:51
  person?
• 20:53
  And
• 20:53
  we
• 20:54
  were
• 20:54
  really
• 20:54
  trying
• 20:55
  to
• 20:55
  break
• 20:55
  the
• 20:55
  symbols
• 20:56
  of
• 20:56
  that.
• 20:56
  Because
• 20:58
  really,
• 20:59
  that
• 20:59
  person
• 20:59
  in
• 21:00
  front
• 21:00
  of
• 21:00
  you
• 21:00
  is
• 21:00
  a
• 21:01
  copy
• 21:01
  of
• 21:01
  you.
• 21:01
  Right.
• 21:02
  It's
• 21:02
  a
• 21:02
  mirror
• 21:02
  image
• 21:03
  of
• 21:03
  you.
• 21:03
  And
• 21:04
  so
• 21:04
  the
• 21:05
  point
• 21:05
  of
• 21:05
  dating
• 21:06
  really
• 21:06
  is
• 21:06
  to
• 21:06
  figure
• 21:07
  out
• 21:07
  what's
• 21:07
  wounded
• 21:07
  inside
• 21:08
  of
• 21:08
  me
• 21:09
  that
• 21:09
  needs
• 21:09
  to
• 21:09
  be
• 21:10
  healed.
• 21:11
  What?
• 21:12
  No,
• 21:13
  that
• 21:13
  actually.
• 21:14
  That's
• 21:14
  actually
• 21:14
  very
• 21:15
  interesting
• 21:15
  that
• 21:15
  you
• 21:15
  say
• 21:15
  that,
• 21:15
  because
• 21:16
  now
• 21:16
  it
• 21:16
  makes
• 21:16
  me
• 21:17
  think.
• 21:17
  So
• 21:19
  I
• 21:19
  would
• 21:20
  think
• 21:21
  that
• 21:22
  our
• 21:22
  listeners
• 21:22
  as
• 21:23
  well,
• 21:23
  you
• 21:23
  guys
• 21:23
  can
• 21:24
  agree
• 21:24
  with
• 21:24
  this,
• 21:24
  that
• 21:25
  a
• 21:25
  lot
• 21:25
  of
• 21:25
  times
• 21:26
  when
• 21:26
  we
• 21:26
  are
• 21:26
  in
• 21:26
  the
• 21:26
  dating
• 21:27
  scene
• 21:29
  or,
• 21:29
  you
• 21:30
  know,
• 21:30
  interviewing
• 21:30
  for
• 21:31
  jobs,
• 21:31
  we
• 21:32
  go
• 21:32
  into
• 21:33
  each
• 21:33
  day,
• 21:33
  in
• 21:34
  each
• 21:34
  interview
• 21:34
  with,
• 21:35
  this
• 21:35
  is
• 21:35
  it.
• 21:36
  Like,
• 21:36
  this
• 21:36
  is
• 21:36
  my
• 21:37
  future.
• 21:37
  This
• 21:37
  is
• 21:37
  my
• 21:38
  forever.
• 21:38
  And
• 21:38
  then
• 21:38
  once
• 21:38
  you
• 21:39
  leave
• 21:39
  it
• 21:39
  and
• 21:39
  you're
• 21:39
  like,
• 21:40
  that
• 21:40
  sucked.
• 21:41
  I
• 21:41
  didn't
• 21:41
  enjoy
• 21:41
  that
• 21:41
  at
• 21:42
  all.
• 21:42
  Then
• 21:42
  you
• 21:42
  get
• 21:42
  depressed
• 21:43
  and
• 21:43
  in
• 21:43
  that,
• 21:43
  like,
• 21:44
  funk
• 21:44
  of
• 21:44
  like,
• 21:45
  man,
• 21:45
  what
• 21:45
  did
• 21:45
  I
• 21:45
  do
• 21:46
  wrong?
• 21:46
  Instead
• 21:46
  of
• 21:47
  just
• 21:47
  living
• 21:47
  in
• 21:47
  the
• 21:47
  moment
• 21:48
  and
• 21:48
  being
• 21:48
  like,
• 21:49
  this
• 21:49
  is
• 21:49
  anxiety
• 21:49
  experience,
• 21:50
  we're
• 21:50
  just
• 21:50
  filling
• 21:51
  this
• 21:51
  out.
• 21:51
  We're
• 21:51
  just
• 21:51
  being
• 21:52
  curious.
• 21:54
  Yeah,
• 21:55
  I
• 21:55
  love.
• 21:55
  Yeah,
• 21:56
  exactly.
• 21:59
  I
• 21:59
  was
• 22:00
  just
• 22:00
  going
• 22:00
  to
• 22:00
  say
• 22:00
  really
• 22:00
  quick,
• 22:01
  sorry,
• 22:01
  because
• 22:01
  I
• 22:01
  know
• 22:01
  there's
• 22:01
  the
• 22:02
  lag
• 22:02
  that
• 22:03
  I.
• 22:03
  So,
• 22:03
  okay.
• 22:04
  She's
• 22:05
  getting
• 22:05
  excited.
• 22:05
  I'm
• 22:06
  getting
• 22:06
  excited
• 22:06
  because
• 22:06
  when
• 22:07
  I
• 22:07
  moved
• 22:07
  out
• 22:07
  here
• 22:08
  to
• 22:08
  be
• 22:08
  with
• 22:08
  my
• 22:08
  now
• 22:08
  husband,
• 22:09
  one
• 22:10
  of
• 22:10
  my
• 22:10
  very
• 22:10
  best
• 22:10
  friends
• 22:11
  was
• 22:11
  like,
• 22:11
  I
• 22:11
  don't
• 22:11
  know
• 22:12
  about
• 22:12
  that.
• 22:12
  Like,
• 22:12
  that
• 22:13
  just
• 22:13
  seems
• 22:13
  like
• 22:14
  you're
• 22:14
  throwing
• 22:15
  a
• 22:15
  lot
• 22:15
  of
• 22:15
  really
• 22:15
  good
• 22:15
  things
• 22:16
  in
• 22:16
  your
• 22:16
  life
• 22:16
  away
• 22:16
  to
• 22:16
  go
• 22:17
  out
• 22:17
  and
• 22:17
  live
• 22:17
  with
• 22:17
  and
• 22:18
  be
• 22:18
  with
• 22:18
  somebody
• 22:18
  who
• 22:18
  you
• 22:19
  don't
• 22:19
  know
• 22:19
  if
• 22:19
  it's
• 22:19
  going
• 22:19
  to
• 22:20
  be
• 22:20
  the
• 22:20
  thing
• 22:20
  and
• 22:20
  going
• 22:20
  to
• 22:20
  work.
• 22:21
  Another
• 22:22
  friend
• 22:22
  came
• 22:23
  to
• 22:23
  me
• 22:23
  and
• 22:23
  said,
• 22:25
  so
• 22:25
  say
• 22:26
  you
• 22:26
  get
• 22:26
  married.
• 22:27
  Say
• 22:27
  you
• 22:27
  don't.
• 22:27
  He's
• 22:28
  like,
• 22:28
  why
• 22:28
  can't
• 22:28
  you
• 22:28
  just
• 22:29
  go
• 22:29
  out
• 22:29
  there
• 22:29
  and
• 22:29
  experiment
• 22:30
  and
• 22:31
  enjoy
• 22:32
  each
• 22:32
  moment
• 22:32
  of
• 22:33
  each
• 22:33
  day
• 22:33
  with
• 22:34
  that
• 22:34
  person
• 22:34
  while
• 22:34
  you
• 22:34
  have
• 22:35
  it?
• 22:35
  And
• 22:35
  I
• 22:36
  was
• 22:36
  kind
• 22:36
  of
• 22:36
  like,
• 22:37
  yeah,
• 22:37
  I
• 22:38
  can
• 22:38
  do
• 22:38
  that.
• 22:38
  And
• 22:38
  so
• 22:39
  it's.
• 22:39
  It's
• 22:39
  this
• 22:40
  mentality
• 22:40
  sometimes
• 22:41
  we
• 22:41
  forget
• 22:41
  where
• 22:42
  we
• 22:42
  just
• 22:42
  put
• 22:42
  so
• 22:42
  much
• 22:43
  pressure
• 22:43
  onto
• 22:43
  ourselves,
• 22:44
  I
• 22:44
  think.
• 22:44
  But
• 22:44
  it
• 22:44
  has
• 22:44
  to
• 22:45
  go
• 22:45
  right.
• 22:45
  It
• 22:45
  has
• 22:46
  to
• 22:46
  be
• 22:46
  perfect.
• 22:46
  But
• 22:47
  does
• 22:47
  it?
• 22:47
  Life
• 22:48
  is
• 22:48
  not
• 22:48
  about
• 22:49
  that.
• 22:49
  I
• 22:49
  don't
• 22:50
  believe
• 22:50
  anymore.
• 22:51
  Right.
• 22:52
  And
• 22:52
  the
• 22:53
  whole
• 22:53
  point
• 22:53
  of,
• 22:54
  you
• 22:54
  know,
• 22:54
  living
• 22:54
  life
• 22:55
  is
• 22:55
  to
• 22:55
  really
• 22:55
  enjoy
• 22:56
  it.
• 22:56
  But
• 22:56
  we're
• 22:57
  so
• 22:57
  busy
• 22:58
  living
• 22:58
  in
• 22:58
  the
• 22:58
  future
• 22:58
  of
• 22:59
  what
• 22:59
  it
• 22:59
  needs
• 22:59
  to
• 23:00
  be
• 23:00
  or
• 23:00
  how
• 23:00
  we
• 23:01
  need
• 23:01
  to
• 23:02
  live
• 23:02
  our
• 23:02
  life.
• 23:03
  And,
• 23:03
  you
• 23:04
  know,
• 23:04
  a
• 23:04
  Buddhist
• 23:05
  practice
• 23:05
  is.
• 23:06
  Or
• 23:07
  a
• 23:07
  Buddhist
• 23:08
  awareness
• 23:08
  is
• 23:09
  that
• 23:09
  our
• 23:09
  root
• 23:09
  of
• 23:09
  suffering
• 23:10
  is
• 23:10
  attachment.
• 23:11
  And
• 23:11
  so
• 23:12
  all
• 23:12
  of
• 23:12
  that
• 23:12
  really
• 23:13
  is
• 23:13
  just
• 23:13
  attachment
• 23:14
  attaching
• 23:14
  to
• 23:14
  what
• 23:15
  we
• 23:15
  think
• 23:15
  the
• 23:15
  outcome
• 23:16
  will
• 23:16
  be
• 23:16
  or
• 23:16
  what
• 23:17
  we
• 23:17
  want
• 23:17
  the
• 23:17
  outcome
• 23:18
  to
• 23:18
  be.
• 23:18
  So
• 23:19
  a
• 23:19
  lot
• 23:20
  of
• 23:20
  the
• 23:20
  practices
• 23:20
  that
• 23:21
  we
• 23:21
  do
• 23:21
  with
• 23:21
  rituals
• 23:22
  is
• 23:22
  allowing
• 23:23
  yourself
• 23:23
  to
• 23:23
  let
• 23:24
  go
• 23:24
  of
• 23:24
  that.
• 23:25
  Right.
• 23:25
  Surrender.
• 23:26
  Yeah.
• 23:27
  Skirts
• 23:28
  up,
• 23:28
  squad.
• 23:28
  Let
• 23:28
  that
• 23:28
  sink
• 23:29
  in
• 23:29
  for
• 23:29
  a
• 23:29
  second
• 23:29
  because
• 23:29
  I
• 23:29
  got
• 23:30
  goosebumps.
• 23:30
  Like,
• 23:31
  this
• 23:31
  is.
• 23:31
  That's
• 23:31
  a
• 23:31
  big
• 23:32
  thing
• 23:32
  to
• 23:32
  take
• 23:32
  in.
• 23:33
  Stop
• 23:33
  putting
• 23:34
  pressure
• 23:34
  on
• 23:35
  everything
• 23:35
  to
• 23:35
  be
• 23:36
  perfect
• 23:36
  the
• 23:36
  way
• 23:36
  you
• 23:37
  think
• 23:37
  it's
• 23:37
  supposed
• 23:37
  to
• 23:37
  be.
• 23:39
  Enjoy
• 23:39
  what
• 23:39
  you're
• 23:40
  doing
• 23:40
  and
• 23:40
  in
• 23:40
  the
• 23:41
  moment.
• 23:41
  That's
• 23:41
  true.
• 23:42
  I
• 23:42
  do
• 23:42
  love
• 23:42
  that.
• 23:45
  It
• 23:45
  reminded
• 23:45
  me
• 23:46
  of
• 23:46
  one
• 23:46
  of
• 23:46
  our
• 23:46
  very
• 23:46
  first
• 23:46
  episodes,
• 23:47
  actually.
• 23:47
  Laura.
• 23:48
  We
• 23:49
  were
• 23:49
  talking
• 23:50
  and
• 23:50
  I
• 23:50
  think
• 23:50
  I
• 23:50
  said
• 23:51
  something
• 23:51
  to
• 23:51
  Sam
• 23:51
  like,
• 23:52
  well,
• 23:52
  you
• 23:53
  know,
• 23:54
  one
• 23:54
  of
• 23:54
  the
• 23:54
  things
• 23:54
  that
• 23:54
  they
• 23:55
  teach
• 23:55
  in
• 23:55
  Buddhism
• 23:56
  is
• 23:57
  we
• 23:57
  don't
• 23:58
  own
• 23:58
  anything.
• 23:59
  Like,
• 23:59
  anything
• 23:59
  that
• 24:00
  we
• 24:00
  have
• 24:00
  can
• 24:00
  go
• 24:00
  away
• 24:01
  at
• 24:01
  any
• 24:01
  given
• 24:01
  moment.
• 24:02
  And
• 24:02
  I
• 24:02
  think
• 24:03
  that
• 24:03
  it's.
• 24:03
  That
• 24:04
  what
• 24:04
  you
• 24:04
  were
• 24:04
  just
• 24:04
  talking
• 24:04
  about
• 24:05
  is
• 24:05
  we
• 24:05
  can
• 24:05
  get
• 24:05
  really
• 24:06
  attached
• 24:06
  to
• 24:06
  things.
• 24:07
  And
• 24:07
  you
• 24:07
  also
• 24:08
  mentioned
• 24:08
  living
• 24:08
  in
• 24:08
  the
• 24:09
  future.
• 24:09
  I
• 24:09
  feel
• 24:09
  like
• 24:10
  we
• 24:10
  get
• 24:10
  attached
• 24:10
  to
• 24:11
  things
• 24:11
  that
• 24:11
  haven't
• 24:12
  even
• 24:12
  happened
• 24:13
  and
• 24:13
  then
• 24:14
  we
• 24:14
  can
• 24:14
  put
• 24:14
  a
• 24:14
  lot
• 24:14
  of
• 24:15
  expectations
• 24:16
  and
• 24:17
  expectations
• 24:17
  can
• 24:18
  really
• 24:18
  hurt
• 24:18
  you
• 24:18
  if
• 24:19
  they
• 24:19
  don't
• 24:19
  get
• 24:19
  met.
• 24:21
  Oh,
• 24:22
  my
• 24:22
  gosh.
• 24:22
  I'm
• 24:22
  just
• 24:22
  thinking
• 24:23
  of
• 24:23
  all
• 24:23
  these
• 24:23
  times
• 24:23
  that,
• 24:24
  like,
• 24:24
  you've
• 24:24
  got
• 24:24
  us
• 24:25
  all
• 24:25
  profound
• 24:25
  here.
• 24:25
  You
• 24:26
  have
• 24:26
  us
• 24:26
  all
• 24:26
  profoundly.
• 24:27
  This
• 24:27
  is
• 24:27
  mind
• 24:28
  blowing.
• 24:28
  All
• 24:28
  these
• 24:29
  times
• 24:29
  where
• 24:29
  I'm
• 24:29
  like,
• 24:30
  oh,
• 24:30
  this
• 24:30
  is
• 24:30
  it.
• 24:31
  This
• 24:31
  is
• 24:31
  important.
• 24:32
  But
• 24:32
  it's
• 24:32
  not
• 24:32
  really
• 24:32
  important,
• 24:33
  like,
• 24:34
  because
• 24:34
  it's
• 24:34
  just
• 24:35
  experience.
• 24:37
  Maybe
• 24:37
  that's
• 24:37
  the
• 24:38
  important
• 24:38
  thing,
• 24:38
  I
• 24:38
  guess,
• 24:38
  is
• 24:38
  what
• 24:39
  we're
• 24:39
  kind
• 24:39
  of
• 24:39
  realizing
• 24:40
  as
• 24:40
  we.
• 24:41
  As
• 24:41
  we
• 24:41
  are
• 24:42
  here.
• 24:42
  Yeah,
• 24:43
  well,
• 24:43
  it
• 24:43
  all.
• 24:43
  It
• 24:44
  will
• 24:44
  have
• 24:44
  already
• 24:44
  happened.
• 24:44
  Everyone's
• 24:45
  watching
• 24:45
  and
• 24:45
  hearing
• 24:46
  our
• 24:46
  light
• 24:46
  bulbs
• 24:46
  go
• 24:46
  on.
• 24:47
  They
• 24:47
  are.
• 24:48
  It's
• 24:48
  our.
• 24:49
  When
• 24:49
  this
• 24:49
  episode
• 24:49
  comes
• 24:50
  out,
• 24:50
  this
• 24:50
  will
• 24:50
  obviously
• 24:51
  already
• 24:51
  have
• 24:52
  happened.
• 24:52
  But
• 24:52
  we
• 24:52
  have
• 24:53
  our
• 24:53
  first
• 24:54
  live
• 24:54
  event
• 24:55
  going
• 24:55
  on.
• 24:55
  And
• 24:56
  let
• 24:56
  me
• 24:56
  just
• 24:56
  tell
• 24:56
  you,
• 24:57
  I
• 24:57
  keep
• 24:57
  going
• 24:57
  back
• 24:58
  and
• 24:58
  forth
• 24:58
  with,
• 24:59
  oh,
• 24:59
  my
• 24:59
  gosh,
• 24:59
  this
• 25:00
  could
• 25:00
  be
• 25:00
  life
• 25:00
  ruining.
• 25:01
  There
• 25:01
  could
• 25:01
  be
• 25:01
  crickets.
• 25:02
  We
• 25:02
  could
• 25:03
  just
• 25:03
  zone
• 25:04
  out
• 25:04
  and
• 25:04
  this
• 25:04
  could
• 25:04
  be
• 25:04
  like
• 25:04
  the
• 25:05
  worst
• 25:05
  thing
• 25:05
  ever.
• 25:07
  Instead,
• 25:08
  I
• 25:08
  should
• 25:08
  stop
• 25:10
  holding
• 25:10
  on
• 25:10
  to
• 25:10
  what
• 25:11
  I
• 25:11
  think
• 25:11
  the
• 25:11
  outcome
• 25:12
  should
• 25:12
  be
• 25:12
  and
• 25:12
  how
• 25:12
  I
• 25:12
  think
• 25:13
  it
• 25:13
  should
• 25:13
  play
• 25:13
  out
• 25:14
  and
• 25:14
  just
• 25:14
  be
• 25:14
  like,
• 25:15
  we're
• 25:15
  going
• 25:15
  to
• 25:15
  be
• 25:16
  fun
• 25:16
  on
• 25:16
  a
• 25:16
  stage.
• 25:17
  Like,
• 25:17
  we're
• 25:17
  going
• 25:17
  to
• 25:17
  be
• 25:17
  on
• 25:17
  a
• 25:18
  Stage.
• 25:18
  We're
• 25:18
  going
• 25:18
  to
• 25:18
  be
• 25:19
  honest
• 25:19
  on
• 25:19
  a
• 25:20
  stage.
• 25:20
  Whatever
• 25:21
  comes
• 25:21
  out,
• 25:21
  comes
• 25:21
  out.
• 25:22
  Yeah.
• 25:22
  Hopefully
• 25:23
  it's
• 25:23
  good,
• 25:23
  but
• 25:23
  if
• 25:24
  it's
• 25:24
  bad,
• 25:25
  we
• 25:25
  experienced
• 25:26
  what
• 25:27
  we
• 25:27
  were
• 25:27
  supposed
• 25:27
  to
• 25:27
  experience
• 25:28
  and
• 25:28
  we'll
• 25:28
  learn
• 25:28
  something,
• 25:29
  could
• 25:29
  grow
• 25:29
  from
• 25:29
  it.
• 25:30
  Yeah.
• 25:31
  Yeah.
• 25:32
  Okay.
• 25:33
  Thank
• 25:33
  you,
• 25:33
  Laura.
• 25:33
  I'm
• 25:34
  really,
• 25:34
  I'm
• 25:34
  really
• 25:35
  learning
• 25:35
  a
• 25:35
  lot
• 25:35
  here.
• 25:36
  So
• 25:37
  I
• 25:37
  want
• 25:37
  to
• 25:37
  kind
• 25:38
  of
• 25:38
  get
• 25:38
  back
• 25:38
  to
• 25:38
  what
• 25:39
  Sam
• 25:39
  had
• 25:39
  asked
• 25:40
  about
• 25:40
  what
• 25:40
  shamanism
• 25:41
  looks
• 25:41
  like
• 25:41
  to
• 25:42
  you.
• 25:42
  I.
• 25:43
  We've.
• 25:43
  Maybe
• 25:44
  you
• 25:44
  want
• 25:44
  to
• 25:44
  just
• 25:44
  kind
• 25:44
  of
• 25:45
  go
• 25:45
  into
• 25:45
  like
• 25:45
  some
• 25:45
  of
• 25:45
  the
• 25:45
  things
• 25:46
  that
• 25:46
  you
• 25:46
  had
• 25:46
  heard
• 25:46
  recently
• 25:47
  from
• 25:47
  somebody
• 25:47
  who
• 25:48
  is
• 25:48
  a
• 25:48
  shamanic.
• 25:49
  Do
• 25:49
  you
• 25:49
  mind?
• 25:50
  Oh,
• 25:51
  you
• 25:51
  are
• 25:52
  talking
• 25:52
  about
• 25:52
  a
• 25:53
  conversation
• 25:53
  I
• 25:53
  had
• 25:54
  with
• 25:54
  my
• 25:54
  father
• 25:54
  in
• 25:55
  law.
• 25:55
  Yes.
• 25:55
  Oh,
• 25:55
  okay.
• 25:56
  Well,
• 25:57
  so
• 25:58
  my,
• 25:58
  you
• 25:59
  guys
• 25:59
  know
• 25:59
  that
• 25:59
  my
• 25:59
  husband,
• 26:00
  for
• 26:00
  those
• 26:01
  of
• 26:01
  you
• 26:01
  who
• 26:01
  don't
• 26:01
  know,
• 26:01
  grew
• 26:02
  up
• 26:02
  in
• 26:02
  a
• 26:02
  very
• 26:02
  untraditional
• 26:03
  religious
• 26:05
  community
• 26:06
  with
• 26:06
  strict
• 26:07
  beliefs
• 26:07
  and
• 26:07
  strict
• 26:08
  ways
• 26:08
  of
• 26:08
  living.
• 26:09
  My
• 26:09
  father
• 26:09
  in
• 26:09
  law
• 26:10
  came
• 26:10
  to
• 26:10
  visit
• 26:11
  and
• 26:11
  asked
• 26:11
  about
• 26:12
  the
• 26:12
  podcast
• 26:12
  and
• 26:12
  what
• 26:12
  we
• 26:13
  talk
• 26:13
  about
• 26:13
  and
• 26:13
  what,
• 26:14
  what
• 26:14
  do
• 26:14
  we
• 26:14
  have
• 26:14
  going
• 26:15
  on.
• 26:15
  And
• 26:15
  I
• 26:15
  said,
• 26:16
  actually,
• 26:17
  I
• 26:17
  know
• 26:17
  it's
• 26:18
  a
• 26:18
  little
• 26:18
  weird
• 26:19
  and
• 26:19
  not
• 26:19
  for
• 26:19
  everyone.
• 26:20
  Come
• 26:20
  to
• 26:21
  find
• 26:21
  out,
• 26:21
  she's
• 26:21
  not
• 26:21
  calling
• 26:22
  you
• 26:22
  weird.
• 26:22
  No,
• 26:23
  our
• 26:23
  podcast.
• 26:24
  Yeah.
• 26:25
  And
• 26:25
  so
• 26:25
  I
• 26:25
  mix
• 26:26
  to
• 26:27
  be
• 26:27
  clear,
• 26:27
  just
• 26:28
  clear.
• 26:29
  But
• 26:30
  you
• 26:30
  know,
• 26:30
  people
• 26:30
  will
• 26:30
  give
• 26:31
  you.
• 26:31
  Like,
• 26:31
  looks
• 26:32
  like
• 26:32
  when
• 26:32
  you
• 26:32
  start
• 26:32
  talking
• 26:32
  about
• 26:33
  things
• 26:33
  like
• 26:34
  spirituality
• 26:35
  and
• 26:35
  stuff,
• 26:36
  they're
• 26:36
  like,
• 26:36
  okay,
• 26:36
  what
• 26:37
  kind
• 26:37
  of
• 26:37
  woo
• 26:37
  woo
• 26:37
  stuff
• 26:37
  are
• 26:38
  you
• 26:38
  about
• 26:38
  to
• 26:38
  say
• 26:38
  to
• 26:38
  me?
• 26:39
  And
• 26:39
  he
• 26:40
  didn't.
• 26:40
  And
• 26:41
  he
• 26:41
  goes,
• 26:41
  oh,
• 26:42
  I
• 26:42
  know
• 26:42
  a
• 26:42
  lot
• 26:42
  of
• 26:43
  people
• 26:43
  who
• 26:44
  believe
• 26:45
  on
• 26:45
  the
• 26:45
  side
• 26:45
  of
• 26:46
  shamanic
• 26:47
  beliefs
• 26:48
  and
• 26:48
  practices.
• 26:48
  He
• 26:48
  goes,
• 26:49
  but
• 26:49
  what
• 26:50
  does
• 26:50
  she
• 26:51
  believe
• 26:51
  in?
• 26:51
  Because
• 26:52
  he
• 26:53
  said
• 26:53
  that
• 26:53
  when
• 26:54
  you
• 26:54
  look
• 26:54
  back
• 26:55
  into
• 26:55
  the
• 26:55
  history
• 26:55
  of
• 26:56
  where
• 26:56
  shamanism
• 26:57
  began
• 26:58
  and
• 26:58
  what
• 26:58
  shamanism
• 26:59
  is,
• 27:00
  which
• 27:00
  was
• 27:01
  typically
• 27:01
  the
• 27:01
  belief
• 27:01
  that
• 27:02
  everything
• 27:02
  is
• 27:03
  its
• 27:03
  own
• 27:03
  being,
• 27:03
  the
• 27:04
  wind
• 27:04
  is
• 27:04
  a
• 27:04
  human.
• 27:05
  The
• 27:05
  like,
• 27:05
  you
• 27:06
  know,
• 27:06
  each
• 27:07
  natural
• 27:08
  thing
• 27:08
  is
• 27:09
  an
• 27:09
  actual
• 27:09
  being
• 27:10
  that
• 27:11
  you're
• 27:11
  trying
• 27:11
  to
• 27:11
  understand
• 27:12
  and
• 27:12
  learn.
• 27:12
  He
• 27:12
  goes,
• 27:12
  so,
• 27:13
  so
• 27:13
  what
• 27:13
  does
• 27:13
  that
• 27:13
  mean
• 27:14
  for
• 27:14
  someone
• 27:15
  like
• 27:15
  Lara
• 27:15
  who
• 27:16
  says
• 27:16
  that
• 27:16
  she
• 27:16
  practices
• 27:17
  shamanic
• 27:18
  beliefs?
• 27:19
  Yeah,
• 27:19
  I
• 27:20
  mean,
• 27:20
  that
• 27:20
  is
• 27:20
  definitely
• 27:21
  one
• 27:22
  of
• 27:22
  the,
• 27:24
  the
• 27:24
  beliefs
• 27:25
  of
• 27:25
  shamanism
• 27:25
  is
• 27:26
  that
• 27:26
  everything
• 27:26
  is
• 27:26
  alive,
• 27:27
  every
• 27:27
  single
• 27:28
  thing.
• 27:28
  And
• 27:28
  also
• 27:29
  everything
• 27:29
  is
• 27:29
  you.
• 27:31
  Oh,
• 27:31
  wow.
• 27:31
  Yeah.
• 27:32
  So,
• 27:33
  you
• 27:33
  know,
• 27:33
  whenever
• 27:34
  we
• 27:34
  do
• 27:35
  shaman,
• 27:35
  like
• 27:35
  this
• 27:36
  shamanic
• 27:36
  training
• 27:36
  that
• 27:37
  I'm
• 27:37
  going
• 27:37
  to
• 27:37
  do
• 27:37
  in
• 27:37
  November
• 27:38
  in
• 27:38
  South
• 27:39
  Padre
• 27:39
  island
• 27:40
  is
• 27:41
  teaching
• 27:41
  people
• 27:41
  how
• 27:42
  to
• 27:42
  become
• 27:42
  a
• 27:42
  tree
• 27:43
  and
• 27:43
  teaching
• 27:43
  people
• 27:43
  how
• 27:43
  to
• 27:44
  become
• 27:44
  animals
• 27:44
  and
• 27:45
  teaching
• 27:45
  people
• 27:45
  how
• 27:46
  to,
• 27:47
  you
• 27:47
  know,
• 27:47
  we
• 27:47
  call
• 27:47
  it
• 27:48
  transforming
• 27:49
  into
• 27:49
  that
• 27:50
  energetic
• 27:50
  state.
• 27:51
  So
• 27:52
  I'm
• 27:52
  also,
• 27:53
  you
• 27:53
  know,
• 27:53
  like
• 27:53
  I
• 27:53
  said,
• 27:53
  I
• 27:54
  have
• 27:54
  a
• 27:54
  background
• 27:54
  in
• 27:54
  neuroscience
• 27:55
  and
• 27:56
  learned
• 27:56
  a
• 27:56
  lot
• 27:56
  of
• 27:56
  physics
• 27:57
  when
• 27:57
  I
• 27:57
  was
• 27:57
  in
• 27:58
  school
• 27:58
  and
• 27:58
  academia
• 27:59
  and,
• 27:59
  and
• 28:00
  it's
• 28:01
  true
• 28:01
  that
• 28:02
  we
• 28:02
  are
• 28:02
  energetic
• 28:03
  states
• 28:04
  in
• 28:04
  that
• 28:04
  we
• 28:04
  can
• 28:04
  become
• 28:05
  energetic,
• 28:05
  any
• 28:05
  energetic
• 28:06
  state
• 28:06
  that
• 28:06
  we
• 28:07
  want
• 28:07
  to
• 28:07
  become.
• 28:08
  So
• 28:09
  for
• 28:10
  me,
• 28:10
  when
• 28:10
  you
• 28:10
  ask
• 28:10
  what
• 28:11
  I
• 28:11
  believe
• 28:11
  in,
• 28:12
  I
• 28:12
  totally
• 28:13
  believe
• 28:13
  in
• 28:13
  that.
• 28:14
  I
• 28:14
  totally
• 28:14
  believe
• 28:15
  in
• 28:15
  everything
• 28:15
  is
• 28:16
  energy,
• 28:16
  and
• 28:17
  that
• 28:17
  we
• 28:18
  are
• 28:18
  a
• 28:18
  part
• 28:18
  of
• 28:18
  that
• 28:19
  energy.
• 28:19
  We
• 28:19
  are
• 28:20
  living
• 28:20
  in
• 28:20
  a
• 28:20
  collective
• 28:21
  where,
• 28:21
  you
• 28:22
  know,
• 28:22
  I'm
• 28:22
  Sam,
• 28:23
  I,
• 28:23
  you
• 28:23
  know,
• 28:24
  I'm
• 28:24
  Melissa,
• 28:25
  I'm
• 28:25
  everywhere,
• 28:26
  and
• 28:27
  you
• 28:27
  are
• 28:27
  me.
• 28:28
  And
• 28:28
  if
• 28:29
  we
• 28:29
  can
• 28:29
  look
• 28:29
  at
• 28:29
  life
• 28:30
  that
• 28:30
  way,
• 28:30
  it
• 28:31
  makes
• 28:31
  it
• 28:31
  a
• 28:31
  whole
• 28:31
  lot
• 28:32
  easier
• 28:32
  to
• 28:32
  be
• 28:33
  in
• 28:33
  the
• 28:33
  present
• 28:33
  moment.
• 28:34
  Right.
• 28:34
  Or
• 28:35
  if
• 28:35
  you're
• 28:35
  frustrated
• 28:36
  at
• 28:36
  someone
• 28:36
  else,
• 28:37
  then
• 28:38
  you
• 28:38
  need
• 28:38
  to
• 28:38
  really
• 28:39
  analyze
• 28:39
  what
• 28:39
  is
• 28:40
  it
• 28:40
  about
• 28:40
  that
• 28:40
  person
• 28:41
  that's
• 28:41
  inside
• 28:41
  of
• 28:41
  me
• 28:42
  that's
• 28:42
  frustrating
• 28:42
  me.
• 28:45
  Okay,
• 28:45
  I
• 28:46
  think
• 28:46
  you
• 28:46
  kind
• 28:46
  of
• 28:46
  answered
• 28:47
  my
• 28:47
  question
• 28:47
  because
• 28:47
  I
• 28:47
  was
• 28:47
  going
• 28:48
  to
• 28:48
  ask
• 28:48
  for
• 28:48
  some
• 28:48
  of
• 28:48
  our
• 28:48
  more
• 28:48
  literal
• 28:49
  thinkers.
• 28:50
  When
• 28:51
  you
• 28:51
  say,
• 28:51
  I
• 28:51
  am
• 28:52
  Sam
• 28:52
  or
• 28:52
  I
• 28:53
  am
• 28:53
  Laura,
• 28:54
  are
• 28:54
  we
• 28:54
  saying,
• 28:54
  like,
• 28:55
  how
• 28:55
  do
• 28:55
  I.
• 28:55
  How
• 28:55
  am
• 28:55
  I
• 28:56
  Laura?
• 28:56
  I
• 28:57
  guess
• 28:57
  it
• 28:57
  looks
• 28:57
  like
• 28:57
  you're
• 28:58
  saying,
• 28:58
  let
• 28:59
  me
• 28:59
  just
• 28:59
  make
• 28:59
  sure
• 28:59
  I
• 28:59
  understand.
• 29:00
  It's
• 29:00
  because
• 29:01
  of
• 29:01
  our
• 29:01
  perception.
• 29:02
  Like,
• 29:02
  we're
• 29:02
  going
• 29:02
  to
• 29:02
  see
• 29:03
  things
• 29:03
  in
• 29:03
  you
• 29:03
  that
• 29:03
  we
• 29:04
  need
• 29:04
  to
• 29:04
  see
• 29:04
  inside
• 29:05
  ourselves
• 29:06
  kind
• 29:06
  of
• 29:06
  a
• 29:06
  thing,
• 29:06
  is
• 29:06
  what
• 29:07
  you're
• 29:07
  saying.
• 29:07
  Or
• 29:07
  we
• 29:07
  attracted
• 29:08
  you
• 29:08
  to
• 29:08
  our
• 29:09
  life
• 29:09
  because
• 29:10
  of
• 29:10
  the
• 29:10
  energy
• 29:10
  that
• 29:10
  we
• 29:11
  put
• 29:11
  out.
• 29:11
  Or
• 29:11
  is
• 29:11
  it
• 29:12
  more
• 29:12
  of
• 29:12
  put
• 29:12
  yourself
• 29:13
  in
• 29:13
  their
• 29:13
  shoes.
• 29:14
  Yeah.
• 29:14
  All
• 29:14
  of
• 29:14
  their.
• 29:14
  Sony,
• 29:16
  I'm.
• 29:16
  Yeah,
• 29:17
  I
• 29:17
  really
• 29:18
  mean
• 29:18
  in
• 29:18
  a
• 29:18
  literal
• 29:19
  sense,
• 29:19
  that
• 29:20
  we
• 29:20
  are
• 29:20
  each
• 29:20
  other.
• 29:21
  Like,
• 29:21
  we
• 29:21
  are
• 29:21
  pieces
• 29:22
  collected.
• 29:23
  Okay.
• 29:24
  And
• 29:25
  we
• 29:25
  see
• 29:26
  each
• 29:26
  other
• 29:26
  as
• 29:26
  separate
• 29:27
  because
• 29:27
  that's
• 29:27
  the
• 29:27
  way
• 29:27
  that
• 29:28
  our
• 29:28
  perception
• 29:28
  is,
• 29:29
  and
• 29:29
  that's
• 29:29
  the
• 29:29
  way
• 29:29
  that
• 29:29
  we've
• 29:30
  been
• 29:30
  kind
• 29:30
  of
• 29:30
  set
• 29:30
  up
• 29:31
  in
• 29:31
  the
• 29:31
  human
• 29:31
  world.
• 29:32
  But
• 29:33
  we
• 29:33
  are
• 29:34
  part
• 29:34
  of
• 29:34
  the
• 29:34
  same
• 29:35
  being
• 29:35
  that
• 29:36
  exists,
• 29:36
  the
• 29:36
  same
• 29:37
  energetic
• 29:37
  state
• 29:37
  that
• 29:38
  exists.
• 29:38
  So,
• 29:39
  no,
• 29:39
  I
• 29:39
  virtually
• 29:40
  mean
• 29:40
  we
• 29:41
  are
• 29:41
  literally
• 29:41
  each
• 29:42
  other.
• 29:42
  And
• 29:43
  I
• 29:43
  know
• 29:43
  that
• 29:43
  sounds
• 29:43
  like,
• 29:44
  Okay.
• 29:45
  I
• 29:45
  actually
• 29:45
  love
• 29:46
  that.
• 29:46
  And
• 29:47
  it
• 29:47
  makes
• 29:47
  us
• 29:47
  sound
• 29:47
  less
• 29:48
  crazy
• 29:48
  because
• 29:49
  when
• 29:49
  people
• 29:49
  ask,
• 29:50
  what
• 29:50
  is
• 29:50
  Lottie
• 29:51
  and
• 29:51
  what
• 29:51
  is
• 29:51
  Lottie?
• 29:52
  Don't
• 29:52
  lie.
• 29:52
  We're
• 29:53
  like,
• 29:53
  lottie
• 29:53
  is
• 29:54
  us.
• 29:54
  We
• 29:54
  are
• 29:54
  Lottie.
• 29:55
  Like,
• 29:55
  we're
• 29:55
  all
• 29:55
  Lottie.
• 29:56
  Yeah.
• 29:56
  And
• 29:56
  people
• 29:57
  are
• 29:57
  like,
• 29:58
  crickets
• 29:59
  yell
• 30:00
  or
• 30:00
  cuckoo.
• 30:02
  No,
• 30:02
  I
• 30:02
  think
• 30:03
  that's
• 30:03
  amazing.
• 30:04
  I
• 30:04
  really
• 30:04
  like
• 30:05
  how.
• 30:06
  Okay,
• 30:07
  it
• 30:07
  made
• 30:07
  me
• 30:07
  think
• 30:07
  of
• 30:08
  how,
• 30:08
  like,
• 30:08
  as
• 30:08
  women,
• 30:08
  we
• 30:09
  should
• 30:09
  be
• 30:09
  straight
• 30:09
  in
• 30:09
  each
• 30:09
  other's
• 30:10
  crowns.
• 30:10
  Right.
• 30:10
  Instead
• 30:11
  of,
• 30:11
  like,
• 30:12
  putting
• 30:12
  each
• 30:12
  other
• 30:12
  down,
• 30:12
  let's
• 30:13
  lift
• 30:13
  each
• 30:13
  other.
• 30:13
  It's
• 30:14
  so
• 30:14
  much
• 30:14
  easier
• 30:14
  when
• 30:14
  you
• 30:15
  look
• 30:15
  at
• 30:15
  somebody.
• 30:16
  I
• 30:16
  think
• 30:17
  maybe
• 30:17
  it's
• 30:17
  kind
• 30:17
  of
• 30:17
  like
• 30:17
  a
• 30:17
  mother's
• 30:18
  love,
• 30:18
  too.
• 30:18
  Like,
• 30:19
  you
• 30:19
  can
• 30:19
  think
• 30:19
  as
• 30:19
  a
• 30:19
  child,
• 30:19
  that
• 30:20
  came
• 30:20
  from
• 30:20
  you.
• 30:21
  We
• 30:21
  all
• 30:21
  came
• 30:21
  from
• 30:22
  the
• 30:22
  same
• 30:22
  thing.
• 30:22
  I
• 30:22
  can
• 30:23
  look
• 30:23
  at
• 30:23
  my
• 30:23
  beautiful
• 30:23
  friend
• 30:24
  Sam
• 30:24
  here
• 30:24
  and
• 30:24
  just
• 30:25
  be
• 30:25
  like,
• 30:26
  wait,
• 30:26
  she
• 30:26
  is
• 30:27
  a
• 30:27
  part
• 30:27
  of
• 30:27
  me.
• 30:27
  I'm
• 30:27
  a
• 30:27
  part
• 30:28
  of
• 30:28
  her.
• 30:28
  If
• 30:29
  she
• 30:29
  succeeds,
• 30:30
  I
• 30:30
  succeed.
• 30:31
  Like
• 30:32
  I
• 30:32
  want
• 30:32
  her
• 30:33
  good
• 30:33
  things
• 30:33
  for
• 30:33
  her.
• 30:34
  Right.
• 30:34
  Like,
• 30:34
  I
• 30:34
  just
• 30:35
  think
• 30:36
  maybe
• 30:36
  this
• 30:36
  individuality
• 30:37
  we
• 30:37
  have
• 30:38
  going
• 30:38
  on,
• 30:38
  like
• 30:38
  you
• 30:38
  said,
• 30:39
  that's
• 30:39
  taught
• 30:39
  to
• 30:39
  us
• 30:39
  in
• 30:39
  our
• 30:40
  world
• 30:40
  is
• 30:40
  sometimes
• 30:41
  detrimental.
• 30:42
  Maybe.
• 30:42
  Well,
• 30:42
  yeah,
• 30:43
  maybe,
• 30:43
  as
• 30:44
  I
• 30:44
  see
• 30:44
  can
• 30:44
  be.
• 30:45
  And
• 30:45
  help
• 30:46
  me
• 30:46
  out
• 30:46
  here.
• 30:46
  I
• 30:46
  think
• 30:46
  if
• 30:46
  we
• 30:47
  looked
• 30:47
  at
• 30:47
  every
• 30:47
  single
• 30:48
  human
• 30:48
  being
• 30:49
  like
• 30:49
  that,
• 30:49
  where
• 30:50
  we
• 30:50
  want
• 30:50
  the
• 30:50
  best
• 30:51
  for
• 30:51
  every
• 30:51
  single
• 30:52
  human
• 30:52
  being,
• 30:52
  I
• 30:52
  mean.
• 30:53
  Right.
• 30:54
  Yeah.
• 30:54
  I
• 30:55
  don't
• 30:55
  want
• 30:55
  to
• 30:55
  get
• 30:55
  into
• 30:56
  political
• 30:56
  stuff
• 30:56
  or
• 30:57
  anything
• 30:57
  like
• 30:57
  that
• 30:57
  because
• 30:57
  that's
• 30:58
  totally
• 30:58
  not
• 30:58
  my
• 30:58
  jam.
• 30:58
  But
• 30:59
  it
• 30:59
  is
• 31:00
  a
• 31:00
  device
• 31:00
  that
• 31:00
  is
• 31:01
  dividing
• 31:01
  us.
• 31:02
  Right.
• 31:02
  Like
• 31:03
  we've
• 31:03
  we
• 31:04
  so
• 31:04
  divided
• 31:05
  right
• 31:05
  now.
• 31:05
  And
• 31:06
  that's
• 31:07
  opposite
• 31:07
  of
• 31:07
  what
• 31:08
  the
• 31:08
  shaman
• 31:09
  belief
• 31:09
  is.
• 31:09
  It's
• 31:09
  like
• 31:10
  we
• 31:10
  are
• 31:10
  just.
• 31:11
  It's.
• 31:11
  It's
• 31:11
  two
• 31:12
  sides
• 31:12
  of
• 31:12
  the
• 31:12
  same
• 31:12
  bird.
• 31:13
  We're
• 31:13
  the
• 31:13
  same
• 31:13
  bird,
• 31:15
  but
• 31:15
  we're
• 31:15
  looking
• 31:15
  at
• 31:16
  throwing,
• 31:17
  you
• 31:17
  know,
• 31:17
  rocks
• 31:18
  at
• 31:18
  each
• 31:18
  other.
• 31:18
  And
• 31:19
  that's
• 31:20
  really
• 31:20
  goes
• 31:20
  against
• 31:21
  the
• 31:21
  principles
• 31:21
  of
• 31:22
  we
• 31:23
  are
• 31:23
  humanity.
• 31:24
  Even
• 31:24
  the
• 31:24
  ugliest
• 31:25
  parts
• 31:25
  of
• 31:25
  humanity.
• 31:26
  Like
• 31:26
  the
• 31:26
  stuff
• 31:26
  that
• 31:26
  you
• 31:27
  don't
• 31:27
  want
• 31:27
  to
• 31:27
  admit,
• 31:28
  that's
• 31:28
  not
• 31:28
  me,
• 31:28
  that
• 31:29
  could
• 31:29
  never
• 31:29
  be
• 31:29
  me,
• 31:30
  but
• 31:30
  it
• 31:30
  is
• 31:30
  you
• 31:31
  because
• 31:31
  it's
• 31:31
  a
• 31:31
  part
• 31:31
  of
• 31:31
  the
• 31:31
  collective.
• 31:32
  And
• 31:32
  you're
• 31:33
  right.
• 31:33
  Yeah.
• 31:36
  Oh,
• 31:36
  wow.
• 31:37
  And
• 31:37
  just
• 31:38
  as
• 31:38
  much
• 31:38
  as
• 31:38
  that
• 31:38
  stuff
• 31:39
  influence
• 31:39
  us,
• 31:40
  influences
• 31:41
  our
• 31:41
  internal
• 31:41
  selves,
• 31:42
  I'm
• 31:42
  guessing
• 31:42
  that
• 31:42
  there's
• 31:43
  parts
• 31:43
  of
• 31:43
  our
• 31:43
  internal
• 31:43
  selves
• 31:44
  are
• 31:44
  just
• 31:45
  influencing
• 31:45
  the
• 31:45
  outside
• 31:45
  just
• 31:46
  as
• 31:46
  much.
• 31:46
  Oh
• 31:46
  yeah.
• 31:47
  Oh
• 31:47
  yeah.
• 31:47
  And
• 31:48
  you
• 31:48
  know,
• 31:49
  I
• 31:49
  say
• 31:50
  something
• 31:50
  to
• 31:50
  clients
• 31:51
  I.
• 31:51
  Because
• 31:51
  they're
• 31:51
  like,
• 31:52
  I
• 31:52
  don't
• 31:52
  know
• 31:52
  why
• 31:53
  I
• 31:53
  keep
• 31:53
  attracting
• 31:54
  these
• 31:54
  certain
• 31:55
  people
• 31:55
  in
• 31:55
  my
• 31:55
  life,
• 31:56
  you
• 31:57
  know,
• 31:57
  and
• 31:57
  it's
• 31:57
  what
• 31:58
  you
• 31:58
  earlier
• 31:59
  is.
• 32:00
  Oh,
• 32:00
  you're
• 32:00
  calling
• 32:01
  that
• 32:01
  in
• 32:02
  the
• 32:02
  universe
• 32:03
  is
• 32:03
  just
• 32:03
  responding
• 32:03
  to
• 32:04
  your
• 32:04
  energy.
• 32:04
  That's
• 32:05
  all
• 32:05
  it
• 32:05
  is.
• 32:05
  Like
• 32:06
  it's
• 32:06
  not.
• 32:07
  Okay.
• 32:07
  It's
• 32:08
  not,
• 32:08
  you
• 32:08
  know,
• 32:08
  because
• 32:09
  of
• 32:09
  this
• 32:09
  or
• 32:10
  that.
• 32:10
  It's
• 32:10
  just
• 32:11
  respond.
• 32:11
  It's
• 32:11
  simply
• 32:11
  just
• 32:12
  responding
• 32:12
  to
• 32:12
  the
• 32:13
  energetic
• 32:13
  state.
• 32:14
  Everything,
• 32:14
  everything
• 32:15
  you
• 32:15
  get
• 32:16
  on
• 32:16
  accident,
• 32:17
  it's
• 32:17
  responding
• 32:18
  to
• 32:18
  your
• 32:18
  energetic
• 32:18
  state.
• 32:20
  Once
• 32:20
  you
• 32:20
  learn
• 32:21
  that
• 32:21
  in
• 32:21
  shamanism
• 32:22
  that
• 32:22
  you
• 32:23
  are
• 32:23
  energy
• 32:23
  and
• 32:24
  you
• 32:24
  can
• 32:24
  change
• 32:24
  your
• 32:25
  energy
• 32:25
  and
• 32:25
  everything
• 32:26
  is
• 32:26
  responding
• 32:27
  to
• 32:27
  your
• 32:27
  energy,
• 32:28
  things
• 32:28
  get
• 32:29
  a
• 32:29
  lot
• 32:29
  easier.
• 32:32
  Okay,
• 32:33
  how
• 32:33
  does
• 32:33
  that
• 32:34
  correlate
• 32:34
  with
• 32:35
  the
• 32:35
  soul
• 32:36
  and
• 32:36
  the
• 32:36
  soul's
• 32:36
  journey?
• 32:37
  Because
• 32:37
  one
• 32:37
  of
• 32:37
  the
• 32:38
  things
• 32:38
  that
• 32:38
  we
• 32:39
  had
• 32:39
  kind
• 32:39
  of
• 32:39
  learned
• 32:40
  about
• 32:40
  or
• 32:41
  you
• 32:41
  know,
• 32:41
  a
• 32:42
  potent,
• 32:42
  a
• 32:43
  potential
• 32:43
  thought
• 32:44
  is
• 32:44
  that
• 32:44
  the
• 32:45
  soul
• 32:46
  has
• 32:46
  one
• 32:46
  potential
• 32:47
  purpose
• 32:48
  in
• 32:48
  that
• 32:49
  it's
• 32:49
  going
• 32:49
  to
• 32:49
  repeat
• 32:50
  its
• 32:50
  same
• 32:50
  mistakes,
• 32:51
  it's
• 32:51
  going
• 32:51
  to
• 32:51
  repeat
• 32:52
  its
• 32:52
  same
• 32:52
  habits
• 32:52
  until
• 32:53
  it
• 32:53
  finds
• 32:53
  that
• 32:53
  purpose
• 32:54
  and
• 32:54
  changes
• 32:55
  the
• 32:55
  trajectory.
• 32:56
  How
• 32:57
  does
• 32:58
  that
• 32:58
  relate
• 32:59
  to
• 32:59
  the
• 32:59
  energy
• 33:00
  and
• 33:00
  what
• 33:00
  that's
• 33:01
  attracting?
• 33:02
  Yeah.
• 33:02
  So
• 33:02
  there's
• 33:03
  a
• 33:03
  lot
• 33:03
  of
• 33:03
  beliefs
• 33:04
  on
• 33:05
  Your
• 33:05
  soul
• 33:06
  picks
• 33:06
  a
• 33:06
  spiritual
• 33:07
  curriculum
• 33:07
  before
• 33:08
  it
• 33:08
  gets
• 33:08
  here,
• 33:08
  right?
• 33:09
  Or
• 33:09
  a
• 33:09
  soul
• 33:09
  journey,
• 33:10
  like
• 33:10
  you
• 33:10
  said
• 33:10
  before,
• 33:11
  it
• 33:11
  arrives
• 33:12
  and
• 33:13
  you
• 33:13
  kind
• 33:13
  of
• 33:13
  have
• 33:13
  a
• 33:13
  mission
• 33:14
  or
• 33:14
  you
• 33:14
  kind
• 33:14
  of
• 33:15
  been
• 33:15
  signed
• 33:15
  up
• 33:15
  with
• 33:15
  the
• 33:16
  same
• 33:16
  set
• 33:16
  of
• 33:16
  souls.
• 33:17
  And
• 33:19
  I
• 33:19
  really
• 33:19
  do
• 33:20
  feel
• 33:20
  like
• 33:20
  that's
• 33:21
  something
• 33:21
  that
• 33:21
  is
• 33:22
  so
• 33:22
  innate
• 33:23
  in
• 33:23
  our
• 33:24
  soul
• 33:24
  that
• 33:24
  we
• 33:25
  a
• 33:25
  lot
• 33:25
  of
• 33:25
  times
• 33:25
  don't
• 33:26
  have
• 33:26
  a
• 33:26
  lot
• 33:26
  of
• 33:26
  consciousness
• 33:27
  to
• 33:27
  it.
• 33:28
  But
• 33:29
  I.
• 33:29
  I
• 33:30
  think
• 33:30
  it
• 33:30
  relates
• 33:30
  in
• 33:31
  the
• 33:31
  fact
• 33:31
  that
• 33:32
  there
• 33:32
  are
• 33:32
  things
• 33:33
  going
• 33:33
  on
• 33:33
  in
• 33:33
  your
• 33:33
  psyche
• 33:34
  and
• 33:34
  your
• 33:34
  soul
• 33:35
  and
• 33:35
  your
• 33:35
  subconscious
• 33:36
  mind
• 33:36
  that
• 33:36
  obviously
• 33:37
  you're
• 33:37
  not
• 33:37
  even
• 33:37
  aware
• 33:38
  of.
• 33:38
  And
• 33:38
  so
• 33:39
  these
• 33:40
  things
• 33:40
  really
• 33:41
  do
• 33:41
  attract
• 33:42
  certain.
• 33:43
  It's.
• 33:43
  It's
• 33:44
  just
• 33:44
  like
• 33:44
  doing
• 33:45
  therapy
• 33:45
  work,
• 33:45
  right?
• 33:46
  If
• 33:46
  you're
• 33:47
  working
• 33:47
  with
• 33:47
  this
• 33:48
  belief
• 33:48
  system,
• 33:49
  and
• 33:49
  let's
• 33:49
  say
• 33:50
  that
• 33:50
  that
• 33:50
  belief
• 33:50
  system
• 33:51
  comes
• 33:51
  from
• 33:51
  a
• 33:51
  young
• 33:52
  age
• 33:52
  of
• 33:52
  I'm
• 33:53
  not
• 33:53
  good
• 33:53
  enough,
• 33:54
  right?
• 33:54
  That's
• 33:55
  in
• 33:55
  your
• 33:55
  subconscious,
• 33:56
  and
• 33:56
  you're
• 33:57
  going
• 33:57
  to
• 33:57
  continue
• 33:58
  to
• 33:59
  attract
• 34:00
  that
• 34:00
  lesson
• 34:01
  every
• 34:01
  single
• 34:01
  time.
• 34:02
  So
• 34:03
  I
• 34:03
  think
• 34:03
  that
• 34:03
  our
• 34:04
  does,
• 34:04
  in
• 34:05
  our
• 34:05
  subconscious,
• 34:05
  in
• 34:06
  our
• 34:06
  psyche,
• 34:06
  does
• 34:06
  warehouse
• 34:07
  a
• 34:07
  lot
• 34:07
  of
• 34:07
  belief
• 34:08
  systems.
• 34:08
  And
• 34:09
  we
• 34:10
  are
• 34:10
  coming
• 34:10
  from
• 34:10
  that
• 34:11
  belief
• 34:11
  system
• 34:11
  without
• 34:12
  even
• 34:12
  the
• 34:12
  knowledge
• 34:13
  of
• 34:13
  it.
• 34:13
  And
• 34:13
  we
• 34:14
  attract
• 34:15
  a
• 34:15
  lot
• 34:15
  of
• 34:16
  what
• 34:16
  we
• 34:16
  bring
• 34:16
  into
• 34:17
  our
• 34:17
  lives.
• 34:17
  That
• 34:18
  brings
• 34:18
  me
• 34:18
  back
• 34:18
  to
• 34:19
  what
• 34:19
  you
• 34:19
  were
• 34:20
  sharing
• 34:20
  earlier,
• 34:20
  the
• 34:21
  example
• 34:21
  about
• 34:21
  the
• 34:21
  lawyer.
• 34:22
  Um,
• 34:23
  it
• 34:23
  sounds
• 34:23
  like
• 34:24
  maybe
• 34:24
  you're
• 34:24
  saying
• 34:25
  he
• 34:26
  had
• 34:27
  this
• 34:28
  idea
• 34:28
  of
• 34:28
  what
• 34:29
  he
• 34:29
  should
• 34:29
  be
• 34:29
  because
• 34:29
  of
• 34:30
  social
• 34:30
  expectations,
• 34:32
  and
• 34:33
  you
• 34:33
  kind
• 34:33
  of
• 34:34
  helped
• 34:34
  him
• 34:34
  figure
• 34:34
  out.
• 34:36
  I
• 34:36
  guess
• 34:36
  my
• 34:36
  question
• 34:37
  for
• 34:37
  him,
• 34:38
  for
• 34:38
  you,
• 34:38
  about
• 34:39
  him
• 34:39
  was,
• 34:39
  did
• 34:39
  he
• 34:39
  stay
• 34:40
  in
• 34:40
  lawyer
• 34:40
  work?
• 34:40
  Was
• 34:40
  it
• 34:41
  about
• 34:41
  the
• 34:42
  fact
• 34:42
  that,
• 34:42
  like,
• 34:43
  I
• 34:44
  felt
• 34:44
  like
• 34:44
  you
• 34:44
  were
• 34:44
  saying
• 34:44
  it
• 34:45
  didn't
• 34:45
  have
• 34:45
  to.
• 34:45
  It
• 34:45
  didn't
• 34:46
  really
• 34:46
  matter
• 34:46
  so
• 34:46
  much
• 34:46
  what
• 34:46
  he
• 34:47
  was
• 34:47
  doing,
• 34:47
  but
• 34:47
  how
• 34:47
  he
• 34:47
  was
• 34:47
  going
• 34:48
  about
• 34:48
  doing
• 34:48
  it?
• 34:49
  Did
• 34:49
  you.
• 34:49
  Did
• 34:49
  he
• 34:49
  stay
• 34:50
  a
• 34:50
  lawyer
• 34:50
  and
• 34:51
  just
• 34:51
  change
• 34:51
  his
• 34:52
  thoughts
• 34:52
  and
• 34:52
  ideas
• 34:53
  around
• 34:53
  it?
• 34:53
  Or
• 34:53
  he
• 34:53
  actually,
• 34:54
  like,
• 34:54
  have
• 34:54
  a
• 34:54
  different
• 34:54
  life
• 34:54
  journey?
• 34:55
  Oh,
• 34:55
  yeah.
• 34:56
  From
• 34:56
  there,
• 34:56
  completely
• 34:56
  different
• 34:57
  direction.
• 34:58
  He
• 34:58
  was.
• 34:59
  Oh,
• 35:00
  wow.
• 35:00
  He
• 35:01
  actually
• 35:01
  was
• 35:02
  actively
• 35:02
  suicidal
• 35:03
  for
• 35:03
  a
• 35:04
  little
• 35:04
  while
• 35:04
  there.
• 35:05
  And
• 35:06
  he
• 35:07
  was
• 35:07
  able
• 35:08
  to
• 35:08
  really
• 35:09
  get
• 35:09
  knee
• 35:09
  deep
• 35:10
  in
• 35:10
  the
• 35:10
  work
• 35:10
  that
• 35:10
  we
• 35:10
  were
• 35:11
  doing.
• 35:11
  And
• 35:11
  he
• 35:12
  just
• 35:12
  completely
• 35:13
  changed
• 35:13
  his
• 35:13
  life.
• 35:13
  I
• 35:13
  mean,
• 35:14
  from.
• 35:14
  He
• 35:14
  was
• 35:14
  living
• 35:15
  in
• 35:15
  Louisiana
• 35:15
  and
• 35:16
  he
• 35:16
  ended
• 35:16
  up
• 35:16
  moving
• 35:17
  from
• 35:17
  Louisiana
• 35:18
  and
• 35:20
  he
• 35:20
  is
• 35:20
  now
• 35:21
  a
• 35:21
  ceremonialist.
• 35:22
  So
• 35:22
  he
• 35:23
  actually
• 35:23
  journey.
• 35:24
  He
• 35:24
  does
• 35:24
  soul
• 35:25
  journeys
• 35:25
  in
• 35:25
  Mexico.
• 35:26
  And
• 35:26
  I
• 35:26
  laugh
• 35:27
  because
• 35:27
  it's
• 35:27
  so
• 35:27
  different
• 35:27
  from
• 35:28
  what
• 35:28
  he
• 35:28
  was
• 35:28
  doing
• 35:28
  before.
• 35:31
  Groups
• 35:32
  of
• 35:32
  people
• 35:32
  who,
• 35:33
  like,
• 35:33
  from
• 35:34
  the
• 35:34
  US
• 35:34
  that
• 35:34
  come
• 35:35
  and
• 35:36
  will
• 35:36
  take
• 35:36
  them
• 35:36
  to
• 35:37
  Mexico
• 35:37
  and
• 35:37
  he'll
• 35:38
  do
• 35:38
  ceremonial
• 35:39
  work
• 35:39
  with
• 35:39
  them.
• 35:39
  And
• 35:40
  he's
• 35:40
  gotten
• 35:40
  really
• 35:41
  deep
• 35:41
  into
• 35:41
  learning
• 35:42
  about
• 35:42
  plant
• 35:42
  medicine
• 35:43
  and
• 35:43
  taking
• 35:43
  people
• 35:44
  through
• 35:44
  these
• 35:44
  journeys.
• 35:45
  It's
• 35:46
  pretty
• 35:46
  amazing.
• 35:46
  So
• 35:48
  when
• 35:48
  you
• 35:48
  ask
• 35:48
  that
• 35:50
  sometimes
• 35:50
  you
• 35:50
  can
• 35:50
  stay
• 35:51
  in
• 35:51
  the
• 35:51
  same
• 35:51
  career,
• 35:52
  right.
• 35:52
  And
• 35:53
  change
• 35:53
  your
• 35:53
  perspective
• 35:54
  on
• 35:54
  the
• 35:54
  career
• 35:55
  but
• 35:55
  if
• 35:56
  you
• 35:56
  really
• 35:56
  do
• 35:56
  a
• 35:57
  deep
• 35:57
  transformational
• 35:58
  work
• 35:59
  of
• 35:59
  getting
• 36:00
  to
• 36:00
  know
• 36:00
  your
• 36:00
  internal
• 36:01
  medicine,
• 36:01
  a
• 36:01
  lot
• 36:01
  of
• 36:02
  people,
• 36:02
  people
• 36:03
  change
• 36:03
  their
• 36:03
  life
• 36:04
  completely.
• 36:05
  Interesting.
• 36:08
  So
• 36:09
  I
• 36:09
  want
• 36:09
  to
• 36:09
  see,
• 36:10
  and
• 36:10
  let's
• 36:11
  see
• 36:11
  where
• 36:12
  this
• 36:12
  goes.
• 36:13
  When
• 36:13
  you
• 36:13
  said
• 36:14
  that
• 36:14
  everyone
• 36:15
  is
• 36:16
  everything
• 36:16
  and
• 36:17
  that
• 36:17
  you
• 36:17
  can
• 36:17
  help
• 36:18
  teach
• 36:18
  people
• 36:18
  how
• 36:18
  to
• 36:19
  become
• 36:19
  anything,
• 36:20
  how
• 36:20
  to
• 36:20
  become
• 36:20
  a
• 36:20
  tree,
• 36:20
  how
• 36:21
  to
• 36:21
  become
• 36:21
  an
• 36:21
  animal,
• 36:22
  what
• 36:23
  does
• 36:23
  it
• 36:23
  look
• 36:24
  like?
• 36:24
  Can
• 36:25
  you
• 36:25
  explain
• 36:25
  to
• 36:25
  us
• 36:26
  and
• 36:26
  walk
• 36:26
  us
• 36:26
  through
• 36:27
  how
• 36:27
  you
• 36:28
  would
• 36:28
  teach
• 36:28
  someone
• 36:29
  how
• 36:29
  to
• 36:29
  be
• 36:29
  a
• 36:29
  tree?
• 36:30
  Like,
• 36:30
  what
• 36:30
  does
• 36:30
  that
• 36:31
  look
• 36:31
  like?
• 36:32
  And
• 36:32
  what
• 36:32
  does
• 36:32
  someone
• 36:33
  typically
• 36:34
  expect
• 36:34
  experience
• 36:35
  from
• 36:35
  that
• 36:36
  and
• 36:36
  maybe
• 36:36
  walk
• 36:37
  us
• 36:37
  through
• 36:37
  it?
• 36:37
  Sure.
• 36:38
  So
• 36:38
  that's
• 36:39
  a
• 36:39
  really.
• 36:41
  It.
• 36:41
  It.
• 36:43
  There's.
• 36:43
  There's
• 36:43
  this
• 36:44
  classic
• 36:44
  answer
• 36:44
  where
• 36:45
  it
• 36:45
  says
• 36:45
  depends,
• 36:46
  right?
• 36:48
  In
• 36:48
  that
• 36:48
  if
• 36:48
  in
• 36:49
  there,
• 36:49
  that's
• 36:50
  fair,
• 36:50
  like
• 36:50
  the
• 36:50
  answer
• 36:51
  to
• 36:51
  everything.
• 36:51
  Well,
• 36:51
  you
• 36:51
  know,
• 36:52
  it
• 36:52
  depends.
• 36:53
  And
• 36:53
  so
• 36:53
  you're
• 36:54
  asking
• 36:54
  me
• 36:54
  a
• 36:54
  question
• 36:55
  for
• 36:55
  someone
• 36:55
  that's
• 36:56
  imaginative,
• 36:56
  that
• 36:57
  I
• 36:57
  don't
• 36:57
  even
• 36:57
  know
• 36:58
  who,
• 36:58
  I
• 36:58
  don't
• 36:58
  know
• 36:58
  what
• 36:58
  their
• 36:59
  barriers
• 36:59
  are.
• 37:00
  But
• 37:00
  I'll
• 37:00
  take
• 37:00
  you
• 37:01
  through
• 37:01
  like
• 37:01
  a,
• 37:02
  you
• 37:03
  know,
• 37:03
  a
• 37:03
  classic,
• 37:05
  A
• 37:05
  classic.
• 37:07
  Becoming
• 37:07
  a
• 37:07
  tree.
• 37:08
  Basically
• 37:09
  what
• 37:09
  it
• 37:09
  is,
• 37:10
  is
• 37:12
  if
• 37:12
  I
• 37:12
  were
• 37:12
  to
• 37:13
  take
• 37:13
  somebody
• 37:13
  to
• 37:15
  feel
• 37:15
  and
• 37:16
  become
• 37:16
  the
• 37:16
  energy
• 37:16
  of
• 37:17
  a
• 37:17
  tree,
• 37:17
  it
• 37:18
  would
• 37:18
  probably
• 37:18
  be
• 37:18
  because
• 37:19
  they
• 37:19
  needed
• 37:19
  to
• 37:19
  be
• 37:19
  grounded
• 37:20
  because
• 37:21
  they're
• 37:21
  probably
• 37:22
  a
• 37:22
  little
• 37:22
  bit
• 37:22
  spacey,
• 37:23
  right?
• 37:23
  And
• 37:23
  a
• 37:24
  tree
• 37:24
  is
• 37:24
  a
• 37:24
  very.
• 37:24
  It's
• 37:25
  rooted,
• 37:25
  it's
• 37:25
  in
• 37:26
  the
• 37:26
  ground.
• 37:27
  And
• 37:27
  so
• 37:28
  the
• 37:29
  tree
• 37:29
  has
• 37:29
  chakras
• 37:30
  like
• 37:30
  we
• 37:30
  do,
• 37:31
  right?
• 37:31
  So
• 37:31
  you
• 37:31
  have
• 37:31
  the
• 37:32
  crown
• 37:32
  chakra,
• 37:33
  you've
• 37:33
  got
• 37:33
  the
• 37:34
  third
• 37:34
  eye
• 37:34
  chakra,
• 37:34
  the
• 37:35
  throat
• 37:35
  chakra.
• 37:36
  And
• 37:36
  so
• 37:37
  usually
• 37:37
  what
• 37:38
  I'll
• 37:38
  do
• 37:38
  is
• 37:38
  I'll
• 37:38
  take
• 37:39
  somebody
• 37:39
  out
• 37:39
  on
• 37:39
  a
• 37:39
  walk
• 37:40
  and
• 37:40
  if
• 37:40
  they're
• 37:41
  very
• 37:41
  spacey
• 37:42
  and
• 37:42
  they're
• 37:42
  very
• 37:42
  like,
• 37:43
  they
• 37:43
  can't
• 37:43
  keep
• 37:44
  their
• 37:44
  feet
• 37:44
  on
• 37:44
  the
• 37:44
  ground
• 37:44
  and
• 37:45
  they
• 37:45
  can't
• 37:45
  be
• 37:45
  grounded.
• 37:46
  We'll
• 37:46
  go
• 37:46
  on
• 37:46
  a
• 37:46
  walk
• 37:47
  and
• 37:47
  I
• 37:47
  tell
• 37:47
  them,
• 37:47
  okay,
• 37:48
  I
• 37:48
  want
• 37:48
  you
• 37:48
  to
• 37:48
  just
• 37:49
  find
• 37:50
  a
• 37:50
  tree
• 37:50
  that
• 37:50
  you
• 37:50
  really
• 37:50
  like.
• 37:51
  Have
• 37:51
  you
• 37:51
  guys
• 37:51
  ever
• 37:51
  gone
• 37:52
  out
• 37:52
  in
• 37:52
  nature
• 37:52
  and
• 37:53
  been
• 37:53
  like,
• 37:53
  oh,
• 37:53
  I
• 37:53
  don't
• 37:53
  know,
• 37:54
  I
• 37:54
  really
• 37:54
  like
• 37:54
  that
• 37:54
  tree?
• 37:55
  Something
• 37:55
  about
• 37:55
  that
• 37:56
  tree.
• 37:57
  Yes,
• 37:57
  I
• 37:58
  do
• 37:58
  all
• 37:58
  the
• 37:58
  time.
• 37:58
  So
• 37:59
  I
• 38:00
  would
• 38:00
  have
• 38:00
  them
• 38:01
  go
• 38:01
  out
• 38:02
  and
• 38:02
  they
• 38:02
  pick
• 38:02
  a
• 38:03
  tree
• 38:03
  and
• 38:04
  first
• 38:04
  thing
• 38:04
  I'd
• 38:05
  have
• 38:05
  them
• 38:05
  do
• 38:05
  is
• 38:05
  just
• 38:05
  look
• 38:05
  at
• 38:06
  the
• 38:06
  tree.
• 38:06
  Just
• 38:06
  like
• 38:06
  observe
• 38:07
  it.
• 38:07
  Just.
• 38:08
  What
• 38:08
  do
• 38:08
  you
• 38:08
  like
• 38:09
  about
• 38:09
  it?
• 38:09
  Look
• 38:09
  at
• 38:09
  the
• 38:09
  leaves.
• 38:10
  Look
• 38:10
  how
• 38:10
  tall
• 38:10
  it
• 38:10
  is.
• 38:11
  Connect
• 38:11
  with
• 38:11
  it.
• 38:12
  So
• 38:12
  that
• 38:13
  first
• 38:13
  one
• 38:13
  is
• 38:13
  awareness,
• 38:14
  right?
• 38:14
  Awareness
• 38:15
  of
• 38:15
  what's
• 38:15
  in
• 38:15
  front
• 38:16
  of
• 38:16
  you,
• 38:16
  right.
• 38:17
  Really
• 38:17
  looking.
• 38:17
  It's
• 38:18
  so
• 38:18
  rare
• 38:19
  that
• 38:19
  we
• 38:19
  actually
• 38:20
  look
• 38:20
  at
• 38:21
  something
• 38:21
  instead
• 38:21
  of
• 38:21
  just.
• 38:22
  Just
• 38:22
  were
• 38:22
  just
• 38:22
  so
• 38:23
  true,
• 38:24
  observant.
• 38:25
  And
• 38:25
  then
• 38:26
  I'd
• 38:26
  have
• 38:26
  them
• 38:27
  go
• 38:27
  up
• 38:27
  and
• 38:27
  touch
• 38:28
  the
• 38:28
  tree,
• 38:28
  right?
• 38:29
  And
• 38:29
  go
• 38:29
  feel
• 38:29
  the
• 38:30
  energy
• 38:30
  and
• 38:30
  Close
• 38:31
  your
• 38:31
  eyes
• 38:31
  and
• 38:32
  see
• 38:32
  what
• 38:32
  you're
• 38:32
  picking
• 38:33
  up
• 38:33
  from
• 38:33
  that
• 38:33
  tree.
• 38:34
  It's
• 38:34
  really
• 38:35
  amazing.
• 38:35
  You're
• 38:35
  bringing
• 38:36
  me
• 38:36
  to
• 38:36
  a
• 38:37
  woman
• 38:37
  that
• 38:37
  I
• 38:37
  worked
• 38:37
  with,
• 38:38
  and
• 38:40
  she
• 38:41
  was
• 38:41
  having
• 38:42
  a
• 38:42
  really
• 38:42
  tough
• 38:43
  time
• 38:43
  in
• 38:43
  her
• 38:43
  life.
• 38:43
  She
• 38:43
  just
• 38:43
  went
• 38:44
  through
• 38:44
  a
• 38:44
  divorce
• 38:44
  and
• 38:45
  kind
• 38:45
  of
• 38:46
  lost.
• 38:46
  And
• 38:47
  we
• 38:47
  did
• 38:47
  the
• 38:47
  tree,
• 38:48
  and
• 38:49
  she
• 38:49
  went
• 38:49
  up
• 38:49
  to
• 38:49
  the
• 38:49
  tree
• 38:50
  and
• 38:50
  she
• 38:50
  put
• 38:50
  her
• 38:50
  hands
• 38:50
  on
• 38:50
  the
• 38:51
  tree
• 38:51
  and
• 38:51
  she
• 38:51
  said,
• 38:52
  oh,
• 38:53
  my
• 38:53
  gosh.
• 38:53
  I
• 38:53
  don't
• 38:53
  know
• 38:54
  what
• 38:54
  it
• 38:54
  is,
• 38:54
  but
• 38:54
  I
• 38:54
  feel
• 38:55
  like
• 38:55
  a
• 38:55
  ton
• 38:55
  of
• 38:56
  sadness
• 38:56
  from
• 38:56
  this
• 38:57
  tree.
• 38:57
  Like,
• 38:57
  it's.
• 38:58
  I
• 38:59
  feel
• 38:59
  like
• 38:59
  there's
• 38:59
  a
• 38:59
  lot
• 38:59
  of
• 39:00
  grief
• 39:00
  here.
• 39:00
  I
• 39:00
  don't
• 39:01
  know
• 39:01
  why.
• 39:02
  And
• 39:02
  I
• 39:02
  said,
• 39:02
  okay,
• 39:02
  keep.
• 39:03
  Stay
• 39:03
  with
• 39:03
  that.
• 39:04
  I
• 39:04
  was
• 39:04
  like,
• 39:04
  just.
• 39:05
  Just
• 39:05
  feel
• 39:05
  it.
• 39:05
  Just
• 39:06
  be
• 39:06
  with
• 39:06
  it.
• 39:06
  Don't.
• 39:07
  You
• 39:07
  don't
• 39:07
  need
• 39:07
  to
• 39:07
  change
• 39:07
  it.
• 39:08
  Just
• 39:08
  be
• 39:08
  with
• 39:08
  a
• 39:08
  tree.
• 39:10
  And
• 39:10
  she
• 39:10
  started
• 39:11
  crying,
• 39:12
  and
• 39:13
  it
• 39:14
  was
• 39:14
  almost
• 39:14
  as
• 39:14
  if
• 39:14
  the
• 39:14
  tree
• 39:15
  was
• 39:15
  allowing
• 39:15
  her
• 39:15
  to
• 39:16
  release
• 39:16
  her
• 39:16
  own
• 39:16
  grief.
• 39:17
  Right?
• 39:19
  Yeah.
• 39:20
  And
• 39:20
  then
• 39:21
  I
• 39:21
  said,
• 39:21
  okay,
• 39:22
  now
• 39:22
  I
• 39:22
  want
• 39:22
  you
• 39:23
  to
• 39:23
  connect
• 39:23
  with
• 39:24
  each
• 39:24
  chakra
• 39:25
  of
• 39:25
  the
• 39:25
  tree.
• 39:25
  And
• 39:26
  I
• 39:26
  kind
• 39:26
  of
• 39:26
  showed
• 39:26
  her
• 39:27
  how
• 39:27
  to
• 39:27
  do
• 39:27
  that,
• 39:27
  and
• 39:28
  she
• 39:29
  was
• 39:29
  able
• 39:29
  to
• 39:30
  bring
• 39:30
  that
• 39:31
  energy
• 39:31
  in.
• 39:32
  And
• 39:32
  I
• 39:32
  said,
• 39:32
  don't
• 39:33
  worry,
• 39:33
  no
• 39:33
  one's
• 39:33
  going
• 39:33
  to
• 39:33
  look
• 39:34
  at
• 39:34
  you.
• 39:34
  I'm
• 39:34
  here.
• 39:34
  If
• 39:35
  people
• 39:35
  look
• 39:35
  at
• 39:35
  you,
• 39:35
  that's
• 39:35
  their
• 39:36
  own
• 39:36
  shit.
• 39:36
  Like,
• 39:36
  don't.
• 39:37
  Just.
• 39:37
  Just
• 39:38
  pay
• 39:38
  attention.
• 39:39
  So.
• 39:40
  Because
• 39:40
  we're
• 39:40
  so
• 39:40
  self
• 39:41
  conscious.
• 39:41
  Right.
• 39:41
  About
• 39:41
  what
• 39:42
  we're
• 39:42
  doing
• 39:42
  here.
• 39:44
  Totally.
• 39:44
  And
• 39:44
  so
• 39:44
  she's
• 39:45
  doing
• 39:45
  this
• 39:45
  energetic
• 39:46
  exchange,
• 39:46
  and
• 39:47
  then
• 39:47
  she
• 39:47
  wraps
• 39:47
  her
• 39:47
  arms
• 39:48
  around
• 39:48
  the
• 39:48
  tree.
• 39:48
  And
• 39:48
  she
• 39:49
  was
• 39:49
  like,
• 39:49
  oh,
• 39:49
  I
• 39:49
  feel
• 39:49
  like
• 39:49
  this
• 39:50
  tree
• 39:50
  is
• 39:50
  my
• 39:50
  friend.
• 39:52
  And
• 39:52
  I
• 39:52
  said,
• 39:53
  can
• 39:53
  you
• 39:53
  allow
• 39:54
  yourself
• 39:54
  to
• 39:55
  become
• 39:55
  like,
• 39:55
  the
• 39:55
  tree
• 39:56
  rooted.
• 39:56
  And
• 39:56
  she
• 39:56
  took
• 39:56
  off
• 39:57
  her
• 39:57
  shoes.
• 39:57
  Like,
• 39:57
  she
• 39:57
  just
• 39:58
  did
• 39:58
  all
• 39:58
  this
• 39:58
  instinctively
• 39:59
  took
• 39:59
  off
• 39:59
  her
• 39:59
  shoes
• 40:00
  and
• 40:00
  she
• 40:00
  was
• 40:01
  with
• 40:01
  the
• 40:01
  tree.
• 40:01
  And
• 40:02
  she
• 40:02
  was
• 40:02
  like,
• 40:03
  oh,
• 40:03
  I
• 40:03
  feel
• 40:04
  so
• 40:04
  good
• 40:04
  and
• 40:04
  so
• 40:04
  grounded
• 40:05
  and
• 40:05
  completely
• 40:06
  shifted
• 40:06
  her
• 40:06
  energetic
• 40:07
  state.
• 40:09
  Yeah.
• 40:10
  And
• 40:11
  the
• 40:11
  marvelous
• 40:12
  about
• 40:13
  this
• 40:13
  is
• 40:13
  we,
• 40:14
  after
• 40:14
  we
• 40:14
  did
• 40:15
  the
• 40:15
  shifting
• 40:16
  of
• 40:16
  the
• 40:16
  energy
• 40:16
  because
• 40:16
  she
• 40:17
  completely
• 40:17
  shifted
• 40:18
  the
• 40:18
  way
• 40:18
  that
• 40:18
  she
• 40:18
  was
• 40:18
  feeling
• 40:19
  just
• 40:19
  with
• 40:19
  the
• 40:19
  tree.
• 40:20
  And
• 40:21
  we
• 40:21
  were
• 40:21
  walking
• 40:21
  and
• 40:21
  there
• 40:22
  was
• 40:22
  a
• 40:22
  plaque
• 40:22
  on
• 40:22
  the.
• 40:23
  It
• 40:23
  was
• 40:23
  a
• 40:23
  huge
• 40:23
  tree.
• 40:23
  There
• 40:24
  was
• 40:24
  a
• 40:24
  plaque
• 40:24
  on
• 40:24
  the
• 40:24
  other
• 40:25
  side
• 40:25
  of
• 40:25
  the
• 40:25
  tree.
• 40:26
  And
• 40:26
  it
• 40:26
  was
• 40:26
  a
• 40:27
  tree
• 40:27
  that
• 40:28
  had
• 40:29
  been
• 40:29
  memorialized
• 40:30
  for
• 40:30
  a
• 40:30
  person
• 40:31
  that
• 40:31
  had
• 40:31
  passed.
• 40:32
  And
• 40:32
  there
• 40:32
  was
• 40:32
  like
• 40:32
  a
• 40:32
  bench
• 40:33
  there
• 40:33
  with
• 40:33
  a
• 40:33
  little.
• 40:34
  And
• 40:35
  she
• 40:35
  said,
• 40:35
  oh,
• 40:35
  my
• 40:36
  gosh.
• 40:36
  Do
• 40:36
  you
• 40:36
  think
• 40:36
  the
• 40:36
  grief
• 40:37
  I
• 40:37
  was
• 40:37
  picking
• 40:37
  up
• 40:37
  from
• 40:38
  the
• 40:38
  tree
• 40:38
  was
• 40:38
  maybe
• 40:39
  other
• 40:39
  people
• 40:39
  coming
• 40:40
  and,
• 40:40
  you
• 40:41
  know,
• 40:41
  crying
• 40:41
  over
• 40:42
  the
• 40:42
  person
• 40:42
  that
• 40:42
  had
• 40:42
  passed?
• 40:43
  I
• 40:43
  said,
• 40:43
  oh,
• 40:43
  I
• 40:43
  bet.
• 40:44
  So.
• 40:44
  So
• 40:45
  energy
• 40:46
  is
• 40:46
  everything.
• 40:47
  We
• 40:47
  are
• 40:47
  energy.
• 40:47
  We
• 40:48
  can
• 40:48
  pick
• 40:48
  up
• 40:48
  on
• 40:48
  energy.
• 40:49
  We
• 40:49
  can
• 40:49
  transpose
• 40:50
  our
• 40:50
  energy
• 40:51
  like
• 40:51
  she
• 40:51
  did
• 40:52
  with
• 40:52
  the
• 40:52
  tree.
• 40:53
  And
• 40:53
  so
• 40:53
  I
• 40:53
  hope
• 40:53
  that
• 40:53
  answers
• 40:54
  your
• 40:54
  question.
• 40:54
  It's
• 40:54
  a
• 40:55
  little
• 40:55
  bit
• 40:55
  more
• 40:56
  complex
• 40:57
  than.
• 40:57
  That,
• 40:57
  but
• 40:57
  yeah,
• 40:58
  it
• 40:59
  does.
• 41:00
  No,
• 41:00
  that
• 41:00
  is
• 41:01
  perfect.
• 41:02
  My
• 41:02
  question
• 41:03
  to
• 41:03
  that,
• 41:04
  though,
• 41:04
  would
• 41:04
  be,
• 41:05
  when
• 41:05
  you're
• 41:06
  describing
• 41:06
  the
• 41:06
  situation
• 41:07
  like
• 41:07
  this
• 41:08
  is
• 41:08
  perfect
• 41:08
  to
• 41:09
  visualize
• 41:09
  and
• 41:09
  understand
• 41:10
  what's
• 41:10
  happening.
• 41:11
  And
• 41:11
  I
• 41:11
  love
• 41:11
  it.
• 41:11
  I
• 41:12
  love
• 41:12
  it
• 41:12
  so
• 41:12
  much.
• 41:13
  With
• 41:13
  the
• 41:14
  example
• 41:15
  that
• 41:15
  you
• 41:15
  gave
• 41:15
  us,
• 41:16
  it
• 41:17
  kind
• 41:17
  of
• 41:17
  feels
• 41:17
  like,
• 41:18
  to
• 41:18
  me
• 41:18
  that
• 41:18
  maybe
• 41:19
  when
• 41:19
  she
• 41:19
  starts
• 41:20
  connecting
• 41:20
  with
• 41:20
  the
• 41:21
  tree,
• 41:21
  it's
• 41:21
  a
• 41:22
  mirror
• 41:22
  of
• 41:22
  what
• 41:23
  emotion
• 41:23
  was
• 41:24
  actually
• 41:24
  needing
• 41:24
  to
• 41:24
  come
• 41:25
  out
• 41:25
  of
• 41:25
  her.
• 41:26
  How
• 41:27
  does
• 41:27
  that.
• 41:27
  How
• 41:28
  do
• 41:28
  you
• 41:28
  know
• 41:28
  that
• 41:28
  you're
• 41:28
  picking
• 41:29
  up
• 41:29
  on
• 41:30
  the
• 41:30
  tree
• 41:30
  sadness
• 41:31
  and
• 41:31
  what
• 41:31
  the
• 41:32
  energy
• 41:32
  of
• 41:32
  the
• 41:32
  tree
• 41:33
  is
• 41:33
  versus
• 41:34
  knowing
• 41:35
  that
• 41:35
  this
• 41:35
  is
• 41:35
  just
• 41:36
  a
• 41:36
  mirror
• 41:36
  of
• 41:36
  what
• 41:37
  I
• 41:37
  needed
• 41:37
  and
• 41:37
  that
• 41:38
  you're
• 41:38
  just
• 41:39
  finding
• 41:40
  that
• 41:40
  outlet,
• 41:40
  if
• 41:41
  that
• 41:41
  makes
• 41:41
  sense.
• 41:41
  It
• 41:42
  does.
• 41:42
  I
• 41:42
  actually
• 41:42
  have
• 41:43
  a
• 41:43
  thought
• 41:43
  on
• 41:43
  it,
• 41:43
  too,
• 41:43
  but
• 41:44
  I
• 41:44
  want
• 41:44
  to
• 41:44
  see
• 41:44
  what
• 41:44
  Laura
• 41:44
  says.
• 41:45
  Well,
• 41:45
  I
• 41:45
  think
• 41:46
  that
• 41:47
  that's
• 41:47
  the
• 41:47
  point
• 41:48
  of
• 41:48
  doing
• 41:48
  the
• 41:49
  work,
• 41:50
  is
• 41:50
  that
• 41:51
  the
• 41:51
  things
• 41:51
  that
• 41:51
  we
• 41:52
  see
• 41:52
  out
• 41:52
  here
• 41:53
  are
• 41:53
  actually
• 41:53
  the
• 41:53
  things
• 41:54
  that
• 41:54
  are
• 41:54
  going
• 41:54
  on
• 41:54
  in
• 41:54
  here.
• 41:56
  And
• 41:57
  so
• 41:58
  when
• 41:58
  she
• 41:59
  said
• 41:59
  grief,
• 42:00
  right.
• 42:00
  I
• 42:00
  knew
• 42:01
  that
• 42:01
  she
• 42:01
  was
• 42:01
  having
• 42:02
  this
• 42:02
  internal
• 42:03
  experience
• 42:03
  with
• 42:03
  her
• 42:03
  own
• 42:04
  grief
• 42:04
  because
• 42:04
  she
• 42:04
  was
• 42:04
  able
• 42:05
  to
• 42:05
  identify
• 42:06
  the
• 42:06
  grief
• 42:06
  outside
• 42:06
  of
• 42:07
  her.
• 42:08
  So.
• 42:09
  Gotcha.
• 42:10
  So
• 42:10
  I
• 42:10
  guess
• 42:10
  the
• 42:10
  answer
• 42:11
  to
• 42:11
  that
• 42:11
  question
• 42:11
  is
• 42:13
  anything
• 42:13
  that
• 42:13
  we
• 42:14
  see
• 42:14
  out
• 42:14
  here
• 42:14
  that
• 42:15
  we
• 42:15
  think,
• 42:15
  oh,
• 42:16
  I
• 42:16
  bet
• 42:16
  that
• 42:16
  that's
• 42:16
  what's
• 42:17
  happening.
• 42:17
  We're
• 42:17
  just
• 42:18
  connecting
• 42:18
  to
• 42:18
  our
• 42:18
  own
• 42:19
  emotions
• 42:20
  around
• 42:21
  what's
• 42:21
  going
• 42:22
  on.
• 42:22
  Right.
• 42:22
  And
• 42:22
  in
• 42:22
  neuroscience,
• 42:23
  that's
• 42:24
  actually.
• 42:24
  We're
• 42:24
  using
• 42:25
  something
• 42:25
  called
• 42:25
  mirror
• 42:26
  neurons
• 42:26
  when
• 42:26
  we
• 42:26
  do
• 42:27
  that.
• 42:28
  And
• 42:29
  people
• 42:30
  with
• 42:31
  autism
• 42:32
  don't
• 42:32
  have
• 42:32
  a
• 42:32
  whole
• 42:33
  lot
• 42:33
  of
• 42:33
  mirror
• 42:33
  neurons,
• 42:34
  so
• 42:34
  it's
• 42:34
  really
• 42:34
  hard
• 42:34
  for
• 42:35
  them
• 42:35
  to
• 42:35
  relate
• 42:35
  to
• 42:35
  somebody
• 42:36
  else's
• 42:36
  emotion.
• 42:37
  So
• 42:37
  does
• 42:37
  that
• 42:37
  mean
• 42:38
  she
• 42:38
  was
• 42:38
  drawn
• 42:39
  to
• 42:39
  that
• 42:39
  tree
• 42:40
  because
• 42:42
  they
• 42:42
  were
• 42:43
  relating,
• 42:43
  Their
• 42:43
  neurons
• 42:43
  were
• 42:44
  relating?
• 42:44
  Is
• 42:44
  that
• 42:44
  kind
• 42:44
  of
• 42:44
  what
• 42:44
  you're
• 42:45
  saying?
• 42:46
  No,
• 42:46
  I
• 42:46
  think
• 42:47
  she
• 42:47
  was
• 42:47
  drawn
• 42:48
  to
• 42:48
  that
• 42:48
  tree
• 42:48
  because
• 42:49
  she
• 42:49
  needed
• 42:49
  that
• 42:49
  experience
• 42:50
  with
• 42:50
  that
• 42:50
  particular
• 42:51
  tree.
• 42:54
  Okay.
• 42:54
  So
• 42:55
  I
• 42:55
  was
• 42:55
  actually
• 42:56
  kind
• 42:56
  of
• 42:56
  thinking
• 42:56
  in
• 42:57
  the
• 42:57
  line
• 42:57
  of.
• 42:57
  In
• 42:57
  the
• 42:57
  vein
• 42:57
  of
• 42:58
  what
• 42:58
  Sam's
• 42:58
  talking
• 42:58
  about.
• 42:59
  I
• 42:59
  didn't
• 43:00
  think
• 43:00
  of
• 43:00
  it
• 43:00
  until
• 43:01
  she
• 43:01
  asked
• 43:01
  the
• 43:01
  question,
• 43:02
  though,
• 43:03
  when
• 43:03
  you
• 43:03
  were
• 43:04
  talking
• 43:04
  earlier
• 43:04
  and
• 43:04
  you
• 43:05
  said,
• 43:05
  we
• 43:06
  are
• 43:06
  everything.
• 43:07
  Like,
• 43:08
  she
• 43:08
  is
• 43:08
  part
• 43:09
  of
• 43:09
  the
• 43:09
  tree.
• 43:09
  The
• 43:10
  tree
• 43:10
  is
• 43:10
  part
• 43:10
  of
• 43:10
  her.
• 43:11
  So,
• 43:11
  like,
• 43:12
  all
• 43:12
  of
• 43:13
  the
• 43:13
  things
• 43:13
  that
• 43:13
  you
• 43:13
  were
• 43:14
  saying,
• 43:14
  Sam,
• 43:14
  and
• 43:14
  Tell
• 43:15
  me.
• 43:15
  If
• 43:15
  I'm
• 43:15
  wrong,
• 43:15
  Laura,
• 43:16
  I
• 43:16
  see
• 43:16
  where
• 43:16
  you're
• 43:17
  going.
• 43:17
  You
• 43:17
  see
• 43:17
  where
• 43:17
  I'm
• 43:17
  going?
• 43:18
  Like
• 43:19
  that.
• 43:19
  I
• 43:20
  think
• 43:20
  that
• 43:20
  she
• 43:21
  was
• 43:21
  able
• 43:21
  to
• 43:21
  pick
• 43:21
  up
• 43:22
  on
• 43:22
  whatever
• 43:22
  that
• 43:23
  tree
• 43:23
  was
• 43:23
  putting
• 43:23
  out
• 43:24
  because
• 43:24
  of
• 43:24
  the
• 43:24
  energy,
• 43:25
  because
• 43:25
  it's
• 43:25
  also
• 43:25
  part
• 43:26
  of
• 43:26
  her.
• 43:26
  And
• 43:26
  then
• 43:26
  she
• 43:26
  was
• 43:27
  finding
• 43:27
  that
• 43:27
  same
• 43:27
  thing
• 43:27
  inside
• 43:27
  of
• 43:28
  her.
• 43:28
  I
• 43:28
  think
• 43:28
  that's
• 43:29
  all
• 43:29
  of
• 43:29
  it.
• 43:29
  Oh,
• 43:29
  wow.
• 43:30
  Yes,
• 43:30
  all.
• 43:30
  Yes
• 43:31
  to
• 43:31
  all.
• 43:31
  That's
• 43:31
  how
• 43:32
  I
• 43:32
  see
• 43:32
  it.
• 43:33
  Is
• 43:33
  she
• 43:33
  now
• 43:33
  shamanized?
• 43:34
  Is
• 43:34
  that
• 43:34
  a
• 43:35
  word?
• 43:36
  Am
• 43:37
  I
• 43:37
  wrong?
• 43:37
  Laura,
• 43:37
  though,
• 43:38
  please
• 43:38
  do
• 43:38
  put
• 43:38
  me.
• 43:39
  Put
• 43:39
  me
• 43:39
  down
• 43:39
  on
• 43:39
  my
• 43:39
  place.
• 43:40
  The
• 43:40
  way
• 43:40
  you
• 43:40
  two
• 43:41
  balance
• 43:41
  each
• 43:41
  other,
• 43:42
  like
• 43:42
  one
• 43:43
  of
• 43:43
  like
• 43:44
  Sam
• 43:45
  is
• 43:45
  like
• 43:45
  concrete
• 43:46
  and
• 43:46
  analytical
• 43:46
  and
• 43:47
  then
• 43:48
  you're
• 43:49
  very
• 43:49
  abstract
• 43:50
  and
• 43:50
  like.
• 43:51
  Yes,
• 43:51
  yeah,
• 43:52
  yeah,
• 43:52
  yeah.
• 43:52
  Yes,
• 43:53
  exactly.
• 43:58
  Okay.
• 43:58
  It's
• 43:58
  exactly
• 43:59
  how
• 43:59
  we
• 43:59
  are.
• 43:59
  She's
• 44:00
  trying
• 44:00
  to
• 44:01
  free
• 44:01
  me
• 44:02
  up
• 44:02
  from
• 44:02
  my
• 44:03
  boxes
• 44:03
  and
• 44:03
  I'm
• 44:04
  trying
• 44:04
  really,
• 44:04
  really
• 44:05
  hard.
• 44:05
  And
• 44:05
  then
• 44:05
  sometimes
• 44:06
  I
• 44:06
  have
• 44:06
  to
• 44:06
  be
• 44:06
  like,
• 44:06
  whoa,
• 44:07
  whoa,
• 44:07
  whoa.
• 44:07
  We
• 44:07
  need
• 44:08
  to
• 44:08
  focus
• 44:08
  here.
• 44:08
  Yes.
• 44:09
  She
• 44:09
  helps
• 44:09
  me
• 44:10
  come
• 44:11
  down
• 44:12
  and
• 44:12
  be
• 44:12
  grounded
• 44:13
  from
• 44:13
  my
• 44:13
  spacey
• 44:14
  ness.
• 44:15
  So,
• 44:15
  yeah,
• 44:15
  we're
• 44:16
  pretty
• 44:16
  lucky
• 44:16
  to
• 44:17
  have
• 44:17
  each
• 44:17
  other.
• 44:17
  Each
• 44:18
  other
• 44:18
  for
• 44:18
  sure.
• 44:18
  Yeah.
• 44:21
  Thank
• 44:22
  you.
• 44:23
  Oh,
• 44:23
  I
• 44:23
  love
• 44:24
  this
• 44:24
  conversation.
• 44:24
  I
• 44:25
  swear
• 44:25
  to
• 44:25
  God,
• 44:25
  every
• 44:26
  fucking
• 44:26
  conversation
• 44:27
  we
• 44:27
  have
• 44:27
  with
• 44:28
  everyone,
• 44:28
  I'm
• 44:28
  like,
• 44:29
  this
• 44:29
  is
• 44:29
  the
• 44:29
  best
• 44:29
  conversation
• 44:30
  ever.
• 44:30
  I
• 44:30
  know.
• 44:31
  I
• 44:31
  can't
• 44:31
  get
• 44:31
  any
• 44:31
  better.
• 44:32
  They're
• 44:32
  the
• 44:32
  best.
• 44:32
  Yeah,
• 44:33
  I
• 44:34
  feel
• 44:34
  that
• 44:34
  way
• 44:34
  too.
• 44:35
  You
• 44:36
  know
• 44:36
  what,
• 44:37
  Laura?
• 44:38
  Maybe
• 44:38
  your
• 44:39
  energy
• 44:39
  and
• 44:39
  our
• 44:39
  energy,
• 44:40
  like
• 44:40
  you,
• 44:40
  it
• 44:41
  was.
• 44:41
  We
• 44:41
  were
• 44:41
  brought
• 44:41
  together
• 44:42
  because
• 44:42
  we
• 44:42
  needed
• 44:42
  you.
• 44:43
  Absolutely.
• 44:43
  I
• 44:44
  think
• 44:44
  so.
• 44:44
  Yeah.
• 44:45
  I
• 44:46
  really.
• 44:46
  I
• 44:47
  always
• 44:48
  say
• 44:48
  yes
• 44:49
  to
• 44:49
  doing
• 44:49
  these
• 44:49
  sorts
• 44:50
  of
• 44:50
  things
• 44:50
  because
• 44:50
  I
• 44:50
  always
• 44:51
  feel
• 44:51
  like
• 44:51
  they're
• 44:51
  meant
• 44:52
  to
• 44:52
  be
• 44:52
  and
• 44:52
  they're
• 44:52
  supposed
• 44:53
  to
• 44:53
  happen.
• 44:54
  So
• 44:55
  I
• 44:55
  think
• 44:55
  so.
• 44:56
  Absolutely.
• 44:56
  Yeah.
• 44:58
  Yeah.
• 44:58
  And
• 44:58
  it's
• 44:59
  been
• 44:59
  a
• 44:59
  while
• 44:59
  since
• 44:59
  I've
• 45:00
  been
• 45:00
  able
• 45:00
  to
• 45:00
  like,
• 45:00
  really
• 45:01
  talk
• 45:01
  about
• 45:01
  like
• 45:02
  the
• 45:02
  details
• 45:03
  of
• 45:03
  the
• 45:03
  work
• 45:03
  I
• 45:03
  do
• 45:04
  because,
• 45:04
  you
• 45:04
  know,
• 45:04
  most
• 45:05
  people
• 45:05
  want
• 45:05
  like
• 45:05
  an
• 45:06
  outline
• 45:06
  of
• 45:06
  what
• 45:06
  you
• 45:07
  do,
• 45:07
  but
• 45:07
  they're
• 45:07
  not
• 45:07
  like
• 45:08
  asking
• 45:08
  these
• 45:08
  like
• 45:08
  specific
• 45:09
  questions.
• 45:09
  So
• 45:10
  I
• 45:10
  love
• 45:10
  talking
• 45:10
  about
• 45:11
  this.
• 45:11
  Yeah.
• 45:12
  Thank
• 45:12
  you.
• 45:13
  I.
• 45:13
  For
• 45:14
  me,
• 45:14
  like
• 45:14
  you
• 45:14
  said,
• 45:14
  I.
• 45:15
  I
• 45:15
  need
• 45:15
  to
• 45:15
  understand
• 45:16
  the
• 45:16
  actual
• 45:17
  in
• 45:17
  depth
• 45:18
  details
• 45:18
  of
• 45:18
  like,
• 45:19
  what
• 45:19
  the
• 45:19
  experience
• 45:20
  means
• 45:21
  for
• 45:21
  me
• 45:21
  to
• 45:21
  be
• 45:21
  able
• 45:21
  to
• 45:21
  grasp
• 45:22
  and
• 45:22
  picture.
• 45:22
  So
• 45:23
  these
• 45:23
  examples
• 45:23
  are
• 45:24
  perfect
• 45:24
  for
• 45:24
  me
• 45:24
  and
• 45:25
  you.
• 45:25
  You
• 45:26
  talked
• 45:26
  about
• 45:26
  mirror
• 45:26
  neurons,
• 45:27
  but
• 45:27
  I
• 45:27
  wanted
• 45:27
  to
• 45:27
  know
• 45:28
  more
• 45:28
  about.
• 45:28
  You
• 45:29
  said
• 45:29
  you
• 45:29
  work
• 45:29
  with
• 45:30
  clinical
• 45:30
  mental
• 45:30
  health,
• 45:30
  you
• 45:30
  work
• 45:31
  with
• 45:31
  a
• 45:31
  shamanic
• 45:31
  practice
• 45:32
  and
• 45:32
  you
• 45:32
  work
• 45:32
  with
• 45:32
  the
• 45:32
  neuroscience
• 45:33
  side
• 45:33
  of
• 45:33
  things.
• 45:34
  So
• 45:34
  I
• 45:34
  did
• 45:34
  really
• 45:35
  kind
• 45:35
  of
• 45:35
  have
• 45:35
  a
• 45:35
  little
• 45:36
  bit
• 45:36
  more
• 45:36
  of
• 45:37
  some
• 45:37
  interest
• 45:37
  in
• 45:37
  hearing
• 45:38
  about
• 45:38
  the
• 45:38
  neuroscience
• 45:39
  side,
• 45:40
  if
• 45:40
  you
• 45:41
  wanted
• 45:41
  to
• 45:41
  share.
• 45:42
  Sure,
• 45:42
  yeah.
• 45:42
  Is
• 45:42
  there
• 45:42
  any
• 45:43
  specific
• 45:43
  thing
• 45:44
  that
• 45:44
  you
• 45:44
  want
• 45:44
  to
• 45:45
  know
• 45:45
  about
• 45:45
  it?
• 45:46
  Yeah,
• 45:46
  I'm
• 45:47
  kind
• 45:47
  of
• 45:47
  curious,
• 45:48
  like,
• 45:48
  because
• 45:48
  I
• 45:48
  feel
• 45:49
  like
• 45:49
  now
• 45:50
  this
• 45:50
  is
• 45:50
  probably
• 45:51
  my
• 45:52
  confirmation
• 45:52
  bias
• 45:53
  wanting
• 45:53
  to
• 45:53
  kick
• 45:53
  in.
• 45:54
  Like,
• 45:54
  I
• 45:55
  feel
• 45:55
  like
• 45:55
  I
• 45:56
  believe
• 45:56
  in
• 45:56
  a
• 45:56
  lot
• 45:56
  of
• 45:57
  energy
• 45:57
  things
• 45:58
  and
• 45:58
  then
• 45:58
  I
• 45:59
  want
• 45:59
  the
• 45:59
  neuroscience
• 46:00
  to
• 46:00
  back
• 46:00
  it
• 46:00
  up
• 46:00
  and
• 46:00
  tell
• 46:00
  me
• 46:01
  I'm
• 46:01
  right.
• 46:03
  So
• 46:04
  I
• 46:04
  don't
• 46:04
  know
• 46:04
  if
• 46:05
  it's
• 46:05
  really
• 46:05
  about
• 46:05
  that
• 46:05
  though.
• 46:06
  Like
• 46:06
  if
• 46:06
  I
• 46:06
  really
• 46:06
  take
• 46:06
  my
• 46:07
  confirmation
• 46:07
  and
• 46:07
  my
• 46:07
  own
• 46:08
  ideas
• 46:09
  aside
• 46:10
  or
• 46:10
  put
• 46:10
  those
• 46:11
  aside.
• 46:12
  What
• 46:12
  Is
• 46:12
  the
• 46:12
  neuroscience
• 46:13
  aspect
• 46:14
  of
• 46:14
  it
• 46:14
  as
• 46:15
  a
• 46:15
  standalone
• 46:15
  maybe.
• 46:16
  Yeah.
• 46:16
  So
• 46:16
  that's
• 46:17
  one
• 46:17
  of
• 46:17
  the
• 46:17
  really
• 46:18
  thing
• 46:18
  things
• 46:18
  that
• 46:19
  I
• 46:19
  love
• 46:19
  the
• 46:19
  most
• 46:19
  about
• 46:20
  my
• 46:20
  job
• 46:20
  is
• 46:21
  being
• 46:21
  able
• 46:21
  to
• 46:21
  have
• 46:22
  this
• 46:22
  spiritual
• 46:22
  awakening
• 46:23
  or
• 46:23
  spiritual
• 46:24
  experience.
• 46:24
  And
• 46:25
  then
• 46:25
  they're
• 46:25
  like,
• 46:26
  what
• 46:26
  happened?
• 46:27
  What
• 46:27
  was
• 46:28
  that?
• 46:28
  And
• 46:28
  I
• 46:29
  can
• 46:29
  really
• 46:29
  tell
• 46:30
  them
• 46:30
  what
• 46:30
  happens
• 46:30
  from
• 46:31
  a
• 46:31
  neuroscience
• 46:32
  perspective.
• 46:32
  So,
• 46:33
  for
• 46:33
  instance,
• 46:34
  with
• 46:34
  the
• 46:34
  shamanic
• 46:35
  journey,
• 46:35
  which
• 46:35
  I
• 46:35
  was
• 46:36
  talking
• 46:36
  about
• 46:36
  earlier
• 46:37
  with
• 46:37
  the
• 46:37
  flight
• 46:37
  of
• 46:37
  the
• 46:38
  soul,
• 46:39
  my
• 46:39
  instrument
• 46:40
  that
• 46:40
  I
• 46:40
  love
• 46:40
  to
• 46:41
  use
• 46:41
  is
• 46:41
  the
• 46:41
  drum.
• 46:42
  And
• 46:42
  the
• 46:42
  reason
• 46:43
  I
• 46:43
  love
• 46:43
  the
• 46:43
  drum
• 46:43
  so
• 46:44
  much
• 46:44
  is
• 46:44
  because
• 46:45
  when
• 46:45
  you're
• 46:45
  hitting
• 46:46
  the
• 46:46
  drum
• 46:46
  over
• 46:47
  and
• 46:47
  over
• 46:47
  again,
• 46:48
  you're
• 46:48
  creating
• 46:49
  an
• 46:49
  alpha
• 46:50
  brainwave
• 46:51
  form
• 46:51
  in
• 46:51
  the
• 46:51
  brain
• 46:52
  when
• 46:52
  you
• 46:52
  first
• 46:53
  start
• 46:53
  the
• 46:53
  drum
• 46:54
  process.
• 46:54
  Okay.
• 46:55
  What
• 46:55
  happens
• 46:56
  with
• 46:56
  our
• 46:56
  brain
• 46:56
  when
• 46:57
  we
• 46:57
  hear
• 46:57
  a
• 46:57
  frequency?
• 46:58
  Our
• 46:59
  brain
• 46:59
  wants
• 46:59
  to
• 47:00
  mimic
• 47:00
  it
• 47:00
  and
• 47:00
  match
• 47:01
  it.
• 47:02
  So,
• 47:03
  yeah,
• 47:04
  so
• 47:04
  if
• 47:04
  we
• 47:04
  listen
• 47:05
  to
• 47:05
  music,
• 47:06
  our
• 47:06
  brain
• 47:07
  is
• 47:07
  attempting
• 47:07
  to
• 47:08
  match
• 47:08
  the
• 47:08
  frequency
• 47:09
  of
• 47:09
  the
• 47:09
  music.
• 47:10
  It's
• 47:10
  why
• 47:10
  a
• 47:10
  song
• 47:11
  gets
• 47:11
  stuck
• 47:11
  in
• 47:11
  your
• 47:11
  head,
• 47:12
  right.
• 47:12
  And
• 47:12
  you
• 47:13
  listen
• 47:13
  and
• 47:13
  you.
• 47:13
  And
• 47:14
  you
• 47:14
  sing
• 47:14
  it
• 47:15
  all
• 47:15
  day.
• 47:15
  It's
• 47:15
  because
• 47:15
  your
• 47:15
  brain
• 47:16
  really
• 47:16
  paired
• 47:16
  with
• 47:17
  that
• 47:17
  frequency.
• 47:18
  And
• 47:18
  so
• 47:18
  when
• 47:19
  you're
• 47:19
  doing
• 47:19
  the
• 47:19
  drumming
• 47:20
  and
• 47:21
  there's
• 47:21
  that
• 47:22
  alpha
• 47:22
  brain
• 47:22
  waveform,
• 47:23
  when
• 47:23
  they
• 47:23
  get
• 47:23
  into
• 47:24
  alpha
• 47:25
  is
• 47:25
  a
• 47:25
  state
• 47:25
  of
• 47:25
  relaxation.
• 47:26
  So
• 47:27
  that
• 47:27
  means
• 47:27
  that
• 47:27
  they're
• 47:27
  starting
• 47:28
  to
• 47:28
  get
• 47:28
  into
• 47:28
  a
• 47:29
  meditative
• 47:29
  state.
• 47:30
  Now
• 47:30
  the
• 47:32
  drum,
• 47:32
  you
• 47:33
  go
• 47:33
  into
• 47:33
  theta
• 47:34
  brainwave.
• 47:35
  Theta
• 47:36
  is
• 47:36
  high
• 47:36
  brain
• 47:37
  creativity.
• 47:38
  It's
• 47:38
  whenever
• 47:39
  we
• 47:39
  are
• 47:40
  in
• 47:40
  actually
• 47:40
  in
• 47:40
  REM
• 47:41
  sleep,
• 47:42
  But
• 47:42
  it's
• 47:42
  also
• 47:42
  whenever
• 47:43
  artists
• 47:43
  are
• 47:44
  creating
• 47:44
  something,
• 47:45
  you
• 47:45
  know,
• 47:46
  and
• 47:46
  they're
• 47:46
  in
• 47:46
  that
• 47:47
  highly
• 47:47
  imaginative,
• 47:48
  creative
• 47:48
  space.
• 47:49
  So
• 47:50
  the
• 47:51
  theta
• 47:51
  then
• 47:52
  go,
• 47:52
  their
• 47:53
  brain
• 47:53
  starts
• 47:53
  to
• 47:54
  match
• 47:54
  that
• 47:54
  theta,
• 47:55
  and
• 47:55
  they
• 47:55
  go
• 47:55
  into
• 47:55
  what
• 47:56
  I
• 47:56
  call
• 47:56
  a
• 47:56
  trance
• 47:56
  state.
• 47:57
  Right.
• 47:58
  And
• 47:58
  this
• 47:58
  is
• 47:59
  not
• 47:59
  hypnosis.
• 48:00
  Right.
• 48:00
  This
• 48:01
  is
• 48:01
  much
• 48:01
  different
• 48:01
  than
• 48:01
  hypnosis
• 48:02
  because
• 48:02
  hypnosis,
• 48:03
  you're
• 48:04
  kind
• 48:04
  of
• 48:05
  suggesting
• 48:05
  to
• 48:06
  the
• 48:06
  client
• 48:06
  where
• 48:07
  they
• 48:07
  need
• 48:07
  to
• 48:07
  go.
• 48:08
  Whereas
• 48:09
  a
• 48:09
  trance
• 48:09
  state,
• 48:10
  they're
• 48:10
  going
• 48:10
  anywhere
• 48:11
  they
• 48:11
  want.
• 48:11
  It's
• 48:11
  almost
• 48:12
  like
• 48:12
  a
• 48:12
  dream
• 48:12
  state.
• 48:13
  That's
• 48:13
  the
• 48:13
  best
• 48:13
  way
• 48:14
  I
• 48:14
  can
• 48:14
  describe
• 48:14
  it.
• 48:15
  It's
• 48:15
  like,
• 48:15
  oh,
• 48:16
  that.
• 48:16
  I
• 48:16
  feel
• 48:16
  like
• 48:16
  some
• 48:17
  of
• 48:17
  my
• 48:17
  meditations
• 48:17
  end
• 48:18
  up
• 48:18
  that
• 48:18
  way.
• 48:19
  No,
• 48:19
  no,
• 48:19
  that's
• 48:19
  okay.
• 48:19
  Yeah,
• 48:20
  that's
• 48:20
  perfect.
• 48:20
  Because
• 48:21
  it
• 48:21
  is
• 48:21
  a
• 48:21
  meditate.
• 48:21
  It's
• 48:22
  a
• 48:22
  very
• 48:22
  highly
• 48:22
  meditative
• 48:23
  state.
• 48:24
  And
• 48:25
  so
• 48:25
  they
• 48:25
  go
• 48:25
  into
• 48:25
  this
• 48:25
  trance
• 48:26
  state.
• 48:26
  It's
• 48:26
  almost
• 48:26
  like
• 48:27
  a
• 48:27
  dreamlike
• 48:27
  state.
• 48:28
  Right.
• 48:29
  Other
• 48:29
  people
• 48:29
  would
• 48:30
  define
• 48:30
  this
• 48:30
  as
• 48:30
  lucid
• 48:31
  dreaming,
• 48:31
  if
• 48:31
  you've
• 48:32
  ever
• 48:32
  heard
• 48:32
  of
• 48:32
  that
• 48:32
  term.
• 48:34
  Yeah,
• 48:35
  we
• 48:35
  did
• 48:35
  an
• 48:35
  episode
• 48:36
  on
• 48:36
  that
• 48:36
  and
• 48:36
  it
• 48:36
  was
• 48:36
  very.
• 48:37
  Oh,
• 48:37
  yeah,
• 48:38
  very
• 48:38
  cool.
• 48:38
  So
• 48:39
  you
• 48:40
  go
• 48:40
  in
• 48:40
  and
• 48:41
  I'm
• 48:41
  continuing
• 48:42
  to
• 48:42
  play
• 48:42
  the
• 48:42
  drum.
• 48:43
  And
• 48:43
  I
• 48:43
  play
• 48:43
  the
• 48:43
  drum
• 48:44
  until,
• 48:45
  you
• 48:45
  know,
• 48:46
  my
• 48:46
  shamanic
• 48:47
  ancestors
• 48:48
  tell
• 48:48
  me
• 48:48
  to
• 48:48
  stop.
• 48:49
  So
• 48:49
  sometimes
• 48:50
  I'll
• 48:50
  be
• 48:50
  there
• 48:50
  for
• 48:50
  three
• 48:51
  hours.
• 48:51
  Okay.
• 48:51
  DRUMMING
• 48:52
  it
• 48:52
  just
• 48:52
  depends
• 48:53
  on
• 48:53
  what,
• 48:53
  how
• 48:54
  long.
• 48:54
  Like
• 48:55
  literally.
• 48:56
  Like
• 48:56
  literally,
• 48:57
  I'm
• 48:57
  literally.
• 48:58
  Yeah.
• 48:58
  DRUMMING
• 48:58
  DRUMMING
• 48:59
  Bum,
• 48:59
  bum,
• 48:59
  bum,
• 48:59
  bum,
• 48:59
  bum,
• 49:00
  bum,
• 49:00
  bum,
• 49:00
  bum,
• 49:01
  bum.
• 49:01
  Okay.
• 49:01
  Yeah.
• 49:02
  And
• 49:02
  I
• 49:02
  guide
• 49:03
  them
• 49:03
  in
• 49:03
  the
• 49:03
  beginning
• 49:04
  too.
• 49:04
  Like
• 49:04
  we'll
• 49:04
  do
• 49:04
  like
• 49:04
  a
• 49:05
  guided
• 49:05
  relaxation
• 49:06
  and
• 49:06
  then
• 49:06
  we'll
• 49:06
  go
• 49:07
  on
• 49:07
  a
• 49:08
  journey.
• 49:08
  And
• 49:08
  that's
• 49:08
  something
• 49:08
  else
• 49:09
  that
• 49:09
  I
• 49:09
  just,
• 49:10
  I'm
• 49:10
  kind
• 49:10
  of
• 49:10
  a
• 49:10
  vessel
• 49:11
  in
• 49:11
  those
• 49:11
  moments.
• 49:11
  So
• 49:12
  I
• 49:13
  will
• 49:13
  guide
• 49:13
  wherever
• 49:14
  my,
• 49:15
  my
• 49:15
  guides
• 49:16
  tell
• 49:16
  me
• 49:16
  to
• 49:16
  go.
• 49:16
  My
• 49:16
  ancestors,
• 49:18
  they're
• 49:18
  all
• 49:18
  different
• 49:19
  from
• 49:19
  one
• 49:19
  another.
• 49:19
  I've
• 49:19
  never
• 49:20
  done
• 49:20
  a
• 49:20
  journey
• 49:20
  that
• 49:20
  was
• 49:21
  exactly
• 49:21
  the
• 49:21
  same.
• 49:22
  And
• 49:23
  so
• 49:23
  depends
• 49:24
  on
• 49:24
  the
• 49:24
  energy
• 49:24
  I'm
• 49:24
  picking
• 49:25
  up
• 49:25
  from
• 49:25
  the
• 49:25
  people.
• 49:26
  Sometimes
• 49:26
  I'll
• 49:27
  do
• 49:27
  20,
• 49:27
  40
• 49:27
  people
• 49:28
  at
• 49:28
  the
• 49:28
  same
• 49:28
  times,
• 49:28
  and
• 49:29
  sometimes
• 49:29
  I'll
• 49:29
  just
• 49:29
  do
• 49:30
  one
• 49:30
  person.
• 49:30
  Just
• 49:31
  depends.
• 49:32
  And
• 49:32
  so
• 49:34
  the
• 49:35
  neuroscience
• 49:35
  behind
• 49:36
  that
• 49:36
  is
• 49:37
  that
• 49:37
  theta
• 49:38
  brainwave
• 49:38
  form
• 49:38
  picks
• 49:39
  up,
• 49:39
  Right.
• 49:39
  And
• 49:40
  then
• 49:40
  you
• 49:40
  start
• 49:40
  to
• 49:40
  go
• 49:41
  into
• 49:41
  that
• 49:41
  dream
• 49:42
  state.
• 49:42
  But
• 49:43
  it's
• 49:43
  a
• 49:44
  very
• 49:44
  spiritual
• 49:45
  occurrence
• 49:46
  where
• 49:46
  they're
• 49:47
  seeing
• 49:47
  imagery,
• 49:48
  they're
• 49:48
  experiencing
• 49:49
  different
• 49:50
  experiences
• 49:50
  that
• 49:50
  need
• 49:51
  to
• 49:51
  be
• 49:51
  had.
• 49:51
  Like,
• 49:52
  I
• 49:53
  did
• 49:53
  a
• 49:54
  journey
• 49:54
  last
• 49:55
  Friday
• 49:56
  and
• 49:57
  there
• 49:57
  was
• 49:57
  a
• 49:57
  woman
• 49:57
  there
• 49:58
  who
• 49:59
  came
• 49:59
  face
• 50:00
  to
• 50:00
  face
• 50:00
  with
• 50:00
  the
• 50:01
  lion.
• 50:01
  And
• 50:02
  then
• 50:02
  the
• 50:02
  lion
• 50:03
  went
• 50:03
  inside
• 50:03
  of
• 50:03
  her
• 50:04
  body
• 50:04
  and
• 50:05
  she
• 50:05
  became.
• 50:06
  And
• 50:06
  she
• 50:06
  said,
• 50:06
  I
• 50:07
  could
• 50:07
  feel
• 50:08
  the
• 50:09
  power
• 50:09
  and
• 50:09
  the
• 50:10
  strength.
• 50:10
  And
• 50:10
  I
• 50:11
  saw
• 50:11
  her
• 50:11
  like
• 50:11
  kind
• 50:12
  of
• 50:12
  moving
• 50:13
  her
• 50:13
  body
• 50:13
  on
• 50:13
  the
• 50:13
  mat
• 50:14
  in
• 50:14
  a
• 50:14
  way
• 50:14
  that
• 50:14
  was
• 50:15
  like
• 50:15
  pretty
• 50:16
  cathartic.
• 50:17
  And
• 50:18
  she
• 50:19
  was
• 50:19
  like,
• 50:19
  oh
• 50:20
  my
• 50:20
  gosh.
• 50:20
  And
• 50:20
  she
• 50:20
  was,
• 50:21
  you
• 50:21
  know,
• 50:21
  she
• 50:21
  was
• 50:21
  crying
• 50:22
  because
• 50:22
  it
• 50:22
  was
• 50:22
  such
• 50:22
  a
• 50:22
  beautiful
• 50:23
  spiritual
• 50:23
  awakening
• 50:24
  for
• 50:24
  her.
• 50:25
  And
• 50:26
  so
• 50:26
  we
• 50:26
  can
• 50:26
  have
• 50:26
  all
• 50:27
  of
• 50:27
  these
• 50:27
  different
• 50:27
  experiences
• 50:28
  happen,
• 50:29
  but
• 50:30
  what
• 50:30
  happens
• 50:31
  when
• 50:31
  we
• 50:31
  get
• 50:31
  out
• 50:31
  of
• 50:31
  a
• 50:31
  journey
• 50:32
  like
• 50:32
  that
• 50:32
  is
• 50:32
  our
• 50:32
  brain
• 50:33
  wants
• 50:33
  to
• 50:33
  make
• 50:33
  sense
• 50:33
  of
• 50:34
  it,
• 50:34
  which
• 50:35
  is
• 50:35
  totally
• 50:35
  great.
• 50:36
  Right,
• 50:36
  okay.
• 50:37
  And
• 50:37
  so
• 50:38
  when
• 50:38
  you
• 50:38
  come
• 50:39
  out
• 50:39
  of
• 50:39
  a
• 50:39
  journey
• 50:39
  like
• 50:39
  that,
• 50:40
  you.
• 50:40
  I
• 50:41
  usually
• 50:41
  sit
• 50:41
  with
• 50:42
  people
• 50:42
  and
• 50:42
  ask
• 50:43
  them
• 50:43
  what
• 50:43
  symbols
• 50:44
  came
• 50:44
  up.
• 50:44
  Because
• 50:44
  in
• 50:44
  shamanism,
• 50:46
  different
• 50:46
  symbols
• 50:46
  can
• 50:47
  mean
• 50:47
  different
• 50:47
  things.
• 50:47
  Like
• 50:49
  the
• 50:49
  energy
• 50:50
  of
• 50:50
  the
• 50:50
  lion
• 50:51
  is
• 50:52
  of
• 50:52
  course,
• 50:52
  power.
• 50:53
  They
• 50:54
  are
• 50:54
  the
• 50:54
  king
• 50:54
  of
• 50:54
  the
• 50:54
  jungle.
• 50:55
  So
• 50:56
  it's
• 50:56
  being
• 50:56
  able
• 50:56
  to
• 50:57
  step
• 50:57
  into
• 50:57
  personal
• 50:58
  power.
• 50:59
  And
• 50:59
  so,
• 51:00
  yeah,
• 51:01
  I
• 51:01
  can
• 51:01
  keep
• 51:01
  talking
• 51:01
  about
• 51:02
  this,
• 51:02
  but
• 51:02
  wow.
• 51:03
  Basically
• 51:04
  you
• 51:04
  can
• 51:04
  describe
• 51:05
  what's
• 51:05
  happening
• 51:06
  with
• 51:06
  the
• 51:06
  brain
• 51:07
  while
• 51:07
  somebody
• 51:07
  goes
• 51:08
  into
• 51:08
  a
• 51:08
  shamanic
• 51:09
  journey
• 51:09
  and
• 51:09
  it
• 51:10
  just
• 51:10
  validates
• 51:10
  their
• 51:11
  experience
• 51:11
  completely.
• 51:14
  That
• 51:14
  is.
• 51:14
  So
• 51:14
  that's
• 51:15
  the
• 51:15
  science
• 51:15
  behind
• 51:15
  it.
• 51:16
  Yeah,
• 51:16
  yeah.
• 51:16
  How
• 51:17
  your
• 51:17
  brain
• 51:17
  is
• 51:17
  responding.
• 51:18
  So
• 51:19
  what
• 51:19
  you
• 51:19
  were
• 51:20
  describing,
• 51:20
  is
• 51:20
  that
• 51:21
  the
• 51:21
  same,
• 51:21
  this
• 51:21
  journey,
• 51:22
  is
• 51:22
  that
• 51:22
  the
• 51:22
  same
• 51:22
  as
• 51:23
  the
• 51:24
  soul
• 51:24
  flight,
• 51:24
  sending
• 51:25
  the
• 51:25
  flight,
• 51:25
  or
• 51:26
  the
• 51:26
  soul
• 51:26
  on
• 51:26
  a
• 51:26
  flight?
• 51:26
  Uh
• 51:26
  huh,
• 51:27
  yeah,
• 51:27
  yeah.
• 51:27
  That's
• 51:27
  a
• 51:28
  shamanic
• 51:28
  journey.
• 51:28
  Okay.
• 51:29
  And
• 51:30
  then.
• 51:33
  Can
• 51:33
  I
• 51:33
  ask
• 51:33
  a
• 51:33
  question?
• 51:34
  Yeah,
• 51:34
  quick
• 51:35
  question
• 51:36
  I
• 51:36
  was
• 51:36
  going
• 51:37
  to
• 51:37
  ask
• 51:38
  is
• 51:38
  the
• 51:39
  Flight
• 51:39
  of
• 51:39
  the
• 51:39
  soul.
• 51:39
  A
• 51:40
  journey
• 51:40
  that
• 51:40
  you
• 51:40
  take
• 51:40
  to
• 51:40
  try
• 51:40
  to
• 51:41
  find
• 51:41
  out
• 51:41
  what
• 51:41
  your
• 51:41
  purpose
• 51:41
  is
• 51:42
  in
• 51:42
  life.
• 51:43
  But
• 51:43
  then
• 51:43
  I'm
• 51:43
  thinking,
• 51:43
  well,
• 51:44
  maybe
• 51:44
  you
• 51:44
  take
• 51:44
  it
• 51:44
  for
• 51:45
  lots
• 51:45
  of
• 51:45
  different
• 51:45
  things
• 51:46
  that
• 51:46
  you're
• 51:46
  trying
• 51:46
  to
• 51:46
  figure
• 51:46
  out
• 51:46
  about.
• 51:47
  Yourself,
• 51:47
  like
• 51:47
  what
• 51:48
  you're
• 51:48
  missing,
• 51:49
  what
• 51:49
  you
• 51:49
  need.
• 51:50
  Yeah,
• 51:50
  it
• 51:51
  could
• 51:51
  be
• 51:51
  anything.
• 51:51
  Yeah.
• 51:52
  Be
• 51:52
  no
• 51:52
  reason
• 51:53
  at
• 51:53
  all.
• 51:53
  You
• 51:53
  just
• 51:53
  want
• 51:53
  to
• 51:54
  go
• 51:54
  on
• 51:54
  a
• 51:54
  journey
• 51:54
  and
• 51:54
  see
• 51:55
  what
• 51:55
  comes
• 51:55
  up.
• 51:55
  But
• 51:56
  really.
• 51:57
  Okay,
• 51:58
  how
• 51:58
  does
• 51:58
  she
• 51:59
  know
• 51:59
  what
• 51:59
  the
• 51:59
  lion
• 52:00
  was
• 52:00
  for
• 52:00
  her?
• 52:00
  Was
• 52:01
  that,
• 52:01
  like,
• 52:01
  how,
• 52:02
  how
• 52:02
  do
• 52:02
  you,
• 52:02
  how
• 52:02
  does
• 52:02
  she
• 52:03
  know
• 52:03
  that
• 52:03
  the
• 52:03
  line
• 52:03
  was
• 52:04
  saying
• 52:04
  she
• 52:04
  needs
• 52:05
  to
• 52:05
  take
• 52:05
  power?
• 52:05
  Or
• 52:06
  how
• 52:06
  do
• 52:06
  you
• 52:07
  know
• 52:07
  that
• 52:07
  it
• 52:07
  was
• 52:07
  saying
• 52:08
  that.
• 52:10
  Oh,
• 52:10
  I
• 52:10
  have
• 52:10
  a
• 52:11
  really
• 52:11
  good.
• 52:11
  Okay.
• 52:12
  When
• 52:12
  we
• 52:12
  were
• 52:12
  doing
• 52:13
  our
• 52:13
  lucid
• 52:13
  dreaming
• 52:14
  episode,
• 52:14
  Sam
• 52:15
  had
• 52:15
  a
• 52:15
  dream
• 52:15
  that
• 52:15
  we
• 52:16
  were
• 52:16
  kind
• 52:16
  of
• 52:17
  analyzing.
• 52:18
  And
• 52:18
  one
• 52:19
  of
• 52:19
  the
• 52:19
  things
• 52:19
  in
• 52:19
  it
• 52:19
  was
• 52:20
  snakes.
• 52:20
  And
• 52:20
  if
• 52:20
  you
• 52:20
  look
• 52:21
  it
• 52:21
  up
• 52:21
  online,
• 52:21
  everyone
• 52:22
  says,
• 52:22
  oh,
• 52:22
  snakes
• 52:23
  mean
• 52:23
  this,
• 52:23
  this,
• 52:23
  this
• 52:24
  and
• 52:24
  this.
• 52:24
  And
• 52:24
  it
• 52:24
  was
• 52:24
  all
• 52:24
  negative
• 52:25
  connotation.
• 52:25
  I
• 52:25
  mean,
• 52:26
  someone's
• 52:26
  snaking
• 52:27
  in
• 52:27
  your
• 52:27
  life
• 52:28
  basically.
• 52:28
  Right.
• 52:29
  But
• 52:29
  for
• 52:29
  Sam,
• 52:30
  snakes
• 52:30
  don't
• 52:31
  have
• 52:31
  that
• 52:31
  connotation.
• 52:32
  Alligators.
• 52:33
  Alligators.
• 52:34
  My
• 52:34
  bad.
• 52:34
  Uh
• 52:34
  huh.
• 52:35
  Yes,
• 52:35
  alligators.
• 52:36
  So
• 52:36
  she's
• 52:36
  not
• 52:36
  scared
• 52:36
  of
• 52:37
  them.
• 52:37
  And
• 52:38
  so
• 52:38
  how
• 52:39
  do
• 52:39
  you
• 52:39
  kind
• 52:40
  of
• 52:40
  hear,
• 52:41
  like,
• 52:41
  help
• 52:42
  somebody
• 52:42
  figure
• 52:42
  out
• 52:42
  what
• 52:43
  something
• 52:43
  is
• 52:43
  supposed
• 52:44
  to
• 52:44
  mean
• 52:44
  to
• 52:44
  them?
• 52:45
  Like
• 52:45
  do
• 52:45
  you
• 52:45
  just
• 52:45
  kind
• 52:46
  of
• 52:46
  ask
• 52:46
  like
• 52:48
  questions
• 52:48
  or
• 52:49
  do
• 52:49
  you
• 52:49
  listen
• 52:50
  to
• 52:50
  your
• 52:50
  spirit
• 52:50
  guides
• 52:51
  say,
• 52:51
  hey,
• 52:52
  maybe
• 52:52
  a
• 52:53
  lion
• 52:53
  for
• 52:53
  her
• 52:54
  means
• 52:54
  this?
• 52:55
  Yeah,
• 52:56
  so
• 52:56
  I,
• 52:57
  I
• 52:57
  go
• 52:57
  into
• 52:57
  a
• 52:57
  highly
• 52:58
  intuitive
• 52:58
  state
• 52:59
  when
• 52:59
  I
• 52:59
  do
• 52:59
  these
• 52:59
  things.
• 53:00
  So
• 53:00
  absolutely,
• 53:01
  my
• 53:01
  guides
• 53:01
  are
• 53:01
  always
• 53:02
  with
• 53:02
  me,
• 53:02
  even
• 53:02
  with
• 53:02
  every
• 53:03
  client
• 53:03
  that
• 53:03
  I
• 53:04
  have.
• 53:04
  And
• 53:04
  my
• 53:05
  intuition
• 53:05
  is
• 53:05
  on,
• 53:06
  on
• 53:06
  point
• 53:06
  there.
• 53:08
  But
• 53:09
  yeah,
• 53:09
  some
• 53:09
  meaning.
• 53:11
  You
• 53:11
  know,
• 53:11
  like
• 53:11
  actually
• 53:12
  a
• 53:12
  snake
• 53:12
  in
• 53:12
  shamanic
• 53:13
  medicine
• 53:14
  is
• 53:14
  actually
• 53:14
  transmutation,
• 53:15
  which
• 53:15
  is
• 53:16
  transforming
• 53:16
  into
• 53:17
  something
• 53:17
  completely
• 53:18
  different.
• 53:18
  So
• 53:18
  if
• 53:18
  somebody
• 53:19
  were
• 53:19
  to
• 53:19
  see
• 53:19
  that
• 53:19
  symbol
• 53:20
  of
• 53:20
  a
• 53:20
  snake,
• 53:22
  it
• 53:22
  would
• 53:22
  be
• 53:23
  you're
• 53:23
  transforming
• 53:24
  into
• 53:24
  like
• 53:24
  there's
• 53:25
  a
• 53:25
  highly
• 53:25
  transmuting
• 53:26
  power
• 53:27
  going
• 53:27
  on
• 53:27
  in
• 53:27
  your
• 53:28
  life
• 53:28
  right
• 53:28
  now
• 53:28
  where
• 53:28
  you're
• 53:29
  changing.
• 53:29
  And
• 53:29
  there
• 53:29
  was.
• 53:32
  That's
• 53:32
  true,
• 53:32
  there
• 53:33
  was.
• 53:33
  Yeah.
• 53:34
  And
• 53:34
  alligator
• 53:36
  can,
• 53:37
  in
• 53:37
  shamanism
• 53:38
  sometimes
• 53:38
  means
• 53:39
  fear.
• 53:39
  So
• 53:40
  I
• 53:40
  always
• 53:40
  tell
• 53:41
  people
• 53:41
  to
• 53:41
  go
• 53:41
  off
• 53:42
  of
• 53:42
  what
• 53:42
  your
• 53:43
  symbols
• 53:43
  are.
• 53:44
  So
• 53:45
  for
• 53:45
  instance,
• 53:45
  a
• 53:46
  long
• 53:46
  time
• 53:46
  ago,
• 53:46
  I
• 53:46
  had
• 53:46
  a
• 53:47
  woman
• 53:47
  journey
• 53:48
  and
• 53:50
  she
• 53:50
  saw
• 53:51
  chocolate
• 53:52
  in
• 53:52
  a
• 53:52
  lot
• 53:52
  of
• 53:52
  her.
• 53:53
  In
• 53:54
  a
• 53:54
  lot
• 53:54
  of
• 53:54
  her
• 53:54
  journeys
• 53:55
  and
• 53:55
  roses.
• 53:57
  And
• 53:57
  so
• 53:57
  if
• 53:57
  you
• 53:58
  pair
• 53:58
  those
• 53:58
  two,
• 53:58
  two
• 53:59
  things
• 53:59
  together,
• 54:00
  they
• 54:01
  actually
• 54:01
  mean
• 54:02
  a
• 54:02
  maturation
• 54:03
  into
• 54:05
  womanhood.
• 54:06
  Right.
• 54:06
  And
• 54:07
  she
• 54:08
  said,
• 54:08
  yeah,
• 54:09
  but
• 54:09
  my
• 54:09
  grandpa
• 54:10
  used
• 54:10
  to
• 54:10
  always
• 54:11
  leave
• 54:11
  me
• 54:11
  roses
• 54:12
  and
• 54:12
  chocolates
• 54:12
  when
• 54:13
  I
• 54:13
  was
• 54:13
  little.
• 54:13
  So
• 54:14
  that
• 54:14
  symbol
• 54:15
  for
• 54:15
  her
• 54:15
  was
• 54:15
  like
• 54:16
  more
• 54:16
  about
• 54:16
  her
• 54:16
  grandfather,
• 54:17
  not
• 54:18
  about
• 54:18
  the
• 54:19
  classic
• 54:19
  symbol.
• 54:19
  So
• 54:20
  you
• 54:20
  always
• 54:20
  want
• 54:20
  to
• 54:21
  go
• 54:21
  off
• 54:21
  of
• 54:21
  what
• 54:22
  your
• 54:22
  symbols
• 54:23
  are
• 54:23
  inside
• 54:24
  of
• 54:24
  You.
• 54:24
  And
• 54:25
  to
• 54:25
  answer
• 54:25
  your
• 54:26
  question,
• 54:27
  okay,
• 54:28
  usually
• 54:28
  your
• 54:28
  soul
• 54:29
  knows
• 54:29
  what
• 54:29
  this
• 54:29
  is
• 54:30
  about
• 54:30
  anyways.
• 54:30
  It
• 54:31
  just
• 54:31
  takes
• 54:31
  a
• 54:31
  little
• 54:31
  bit
• 54:31
  of
• 54:32
  interpretation
• 54:32
  and
• 54:32
  sitting
• 54:33
  with
• 54:33
  it.
• 54:33
  So
• 54:34
  I
• 54:34
  believe
• 54:34
  that
• 54:34
  the
• 54:35
  person
• 54:35
  always
• 54:35
  has
• 54:36
  the
• 54:36
  answers
• 54:36
  to
• 54:36
  their
• 54:37
  symbols.
• 54:37
  Like,
• 54:38
  no
• 54:39
  person
• 54:39
  can
• 54:39
  tell
• 54:40
  you
• 54:40
  what
• 54:40
  your
• 54:41
  symbols
• 54:41
  are.
• 54:42
  You
• 54:42
  know
• 54:42
  what
• 54:43
  they
• 54:43
  are.
• 54:43
  You
• 54:43
  just
• 54:43
  need
• 54:43
  to
• 54:44
  have
• 54:44
  somebody
• 54:45
  help
• 54:45
  you
• 54:45
  uncover
• 54:45
  them.
• 54:46
  That
• 54:46
  makes
• 54:46
  sense.
• 54:46
  Yeah.
• 54:47
  Yeah,
• 54:48
  I
• 54:48
  love
• 54:48
  that.
• 54:50
  I
• 54:50
  was
• 54:50
  kind
• 54:50
  of
• 54:51
  thinking
• 54:51
  while
• 54:51
  you
• 54:51
  were
• 54:51
  talking,
• 54:52
  so
• 54:52
  just
• 54:52
  because
• 54:53
  everyone
• 54:53
  is
• 54:53
  so
• 54:54
  different,
• 54:54
  that
• 54:54
  made
• 54:54
  me
• 54:54
  think
• 54:55
  of
• 54:55
  finding
• 54:55
  your
• 54:56
  medicine.
• 54:56
  So
• 54:57
  it
• 54:57
  sounded
• 54:57
  like
• 54:57
  you
• 54:57
  were
• 54:57
  trying
• 54:58
  to
• 54:58
  tell
• 54:58
  us
• 54:58
  something
• 54:58
  about
• 54:59
  that
• 54:59
  being
• 55:00
  everyone
• 55:00
  has
• 55:00
  their
• 55:00
  own
• 55:02
  medicine.
• 55:02
  Can
• 55:02
  you
• 55:03
  describe
• 55:03
  what
• 55:03
  that
• 55:03
  means?
• 55:04
  Yeah,
• 55:04
  I
• 55:04
  think
• 55:05
  that
• 55:06
  each
• 55:06
  human
• 55:07
  being,
• 55:07
  we
• 55:07
  have
• 55:07
  something
• 55:08
  that's
• 55:08
  really
• 55:09
  unique,
• 55:09
  that
• 55:09
  is
• 55:10
  our
• 55:10
  purpose
• 55:11
  and
• 55:11
  what
• 55:11
  we're
• 55:11
  supposed
• 55:12
  to
• 55:12
  be
• 55:12
  doing.
• 55:12
  And
• 55:12
  it
• 55:12
  doesn't
• 55:13
  only
• 55:13
  have
• 55:13
  to
• 55:13
  be
• 55:13
  career,
• 55:14
  it
• 55:14
  can
• 55:14
  be
• 55:15
  having
• 55:15
  a
• 55:16
  child.
• 55:16
  And
• 55:16
  you're.
• 55:17
  You
• 55:17
  need
• 55:17
  to
• 55:18
  raise
• 55:18
  this
• 55:18
  child
• 55:18
  in
• 55:19
  a
• 55:19
  certain
• 55:19
  way.
• 55:19
  Right.
• 55:20
  But
• 55:20
  our
• 55:21
  medicine,
• 55:21
  like
• 55:22
  I
• 55:22
  said,
• 55:22
  it's
• 55:22
  as.
• 55:23
  As
• 55:23
  intricate
• 55:23
  as
• 55:24
  your
• 55:24
  fingertip.
• 55:25
  And
• 55:26
  I
• 55:27
  think
• 55:27
  that
• 55:27
  we're
• 55:28
  supposed
• 55:28
  to
• 55:28
  expand
• 55:29
  the
• 55:29
  way
• 55:30
  we
• 55:30
  do
• 55:30
  things
• 55:30
  in
• 55:31
  different
• 55:31
  ways.
• 55:31
  You
• 55:32
  know,
• 55:32
  like,
• 55:33
  I
• 55:33
  could
• 55:33
  have
• 55:34
  decided
• 55:34
  just
• 55:34
  to
• 55:34
  be
• 55:35
  a
• 55:35
  straight
• 55:35
  up
• 55:35
  clinical
• 55:36
  mental
• 55:36
  health
• 55:37
  therapist,
• 55:37
  and
• 55:37
  I
• 55:38
  would
• 55:38
  be
• 55:38
  fitting
• 55:38
  into
• 55:39
  this
• 55:39
  box
• 55:40
  that
• 55:41
  it's.
• 55:41
  That's
• 55:42
  been
• 55:42
  replicated
• 55:42
  where
• 55:43
  somebody
• 55:43
  comes
• 55:43
  and
• 55:43
  sits
• 55:44
  on
• 55:44
  the.
• 55:44
  You
• 55:45
  know,
• 55:45
  on
• 55:45
  the
• 55:45
  sofa
• 55:45
  or
• 55:46
  the.
• 55:46
  And
• 55:46
  I
• 55:46
  just
• 55:46
  listen
• 55:47
  to
• 55:47
  them
• 55:47
  talk.
• 55:47
  And
• 55:48
  they
• 55:48
  teach
• 55:48
  you
• 55:49
  in
• 55:49
  school,
• 55:49
  when
• 55:49
  you're
• 55:49
  in
• 55:50
  school
• 55:50
  how
• 55:50
  to
• 55:50
  do
• 55:50
  this,
• 55:51
  right.
• 55:51
  You
• 55:51
  take
• 55:51
  the
• 55:51
  words
• 55:52
  that
• 55:52
  they
• 55:52
  say
• 55:52
  and
• 55:53
  you
• 55:53
  just.
• 55:53
  Just
• 55:53
  regurgitate
• 55:54
  it
• 55:54
  back
• 55:54
  and
• 55:55
  you
• 55:55
  tell
• 55:55
  them
• 55:55
  what
• 55:56
  emotion
• 55:56
  they're
• 55:56
  probably
• 55:57
  experiencing.
• 55:58
  And
• 55:58
  that
• 55:58
  can
• 55:58
  be
• 55:58
  very
• 55:59
  helpful.
• 55:59
  I'm
• 55:59
  not
• 55:59
  trying
• 55:59
  to
• 55:59
  discount
• 56:00
  that
• 56:00
  because
• 56:01
  obviously
• 56:01
  that's
• 56:01
  a
• 56:01
  skill
• 56:02
  that's
• 56:02
  very
• 56:02
  helpful,
• 56:03
  but
• 56:03
  a
• 56:03
  lot
• 56:03
  of
• 56:03
  people
• 56:03
  build
• 56:04
  a
• 56:04
  career
• 56:04
  out
• 56:04
  of
• 56:05
  that.
• 56:05
  Instead
• 56:05
  of,
• 56:05
  like,
• 56:06
  what's
• 56:06
  unique
• 56:07
  to
• 56:07
  you
• 56:07
  and
• 56:07
  your
• 56:08
  soul
• 56:08
  and
• 56:08
  your
• 56:08
  heart
• 56:09
  that
• 56:10
  you
• 56:10
  can
• 56:10
  do,
• 56:10
  that's
• 56:11
  completely
• 56:12
  different
• 56:12
  than
• 56:12
  anything
• 56:13
  that's
• 56:13
  ever
• 56:13
  been
• 56:13
  done
• 56:14
  before.
• 56:14
  Right.
• 56:15
  Does
• 56:15
  that
• 56:15
  make
• 56:16
  sense?
• 56:16
  Yeah,
• 56:17
  I
• 56:17
  like
• 56:17
  that
• 56:18
  it
• 56:19
  does
• 56:19
  make
• 56:19
  sense.
• 56:20
  I
• 56:20
  think
• 56:20
  it's
• 56:20
  kind
• 56:21
  of.
• 56:21
  Kind
• 56:21
  of
• 56:21
  part
• 56:21
  of
• 56:21
  the
• 56:21
  journey
• 56:22
  of
• 56:22
  this
• 56:22
  podcast.
• 56:23
  I
• 56:23
  think
• 56:23
  it's.
• 56:23
  Yeah.
• 56:24
  And
• 56:24
  I
• 56:24
  think
• 56:24
  it's
• 56:25
  everything
• 56:25
  that
• 56:25
  we
• 56:25
  talked
• 56:25
  about,
• 56:26
  the
• 56:27
  finding
• 56:27
  your
• 56:27
  medicine.
• 56:27
  It's
• 56:28
  everything
• 56:28
  that
• 56:28
  we
• 56:28
  talked
• 56:28
  about
• 56:28
  in
• 56:29
  this
• 56:29
  episode.
• 56:30
  Yeah.
• 56:32
  Yeah.
• 56:33
  I
• 56:33
  was
• 56:33
  just
• 56:33
  kind
• 56:33
  of
• 56:33
  thinking
• 56:34
  also
• 56:34
  along
• 56:34
  the
• 56:34
  lines.
• 56:36
  I
• 56:36
  was
• 56:36
  thinking
• 56:36
  along
• 56:36
  the
• 56:37
  lines
• 56:37
  of
• 56:40
  sometimes
• 56:40
  thinking
• 56:41
  there's
• 56:42
  something
• 56:42
  that
• 56:42
  I
• 56:42
  should
• 56:43
  be
• 56:43
  doing,
• 56:43
  and
• 56:43
  I
• 56:43
  don't
• 56:43
  know
• 56:43
  what
• 56:44
  it
• 56:44
  is.
• 56:44
  And
• 56:44
  I
• 56:44
  feel
• 56:45
  like
• 56:45
  in
• 56:45
  the
• 56:45
  beginning
• 56:45
  of
• 56:46
  the
• 56:46
  podcast
• 56:46
  journey,
• 56:47
  Sam
• 56:47
  was
• 56:48
  kind
• 56:48
  of
• 56:48
  there,
• 56:48
  and
• 56:48
  I
• 56:48
  feel
• 56:49
  like
• 56:49
  every
• 56:49
  episode,
• 56:50
  you
• 56:51
  Seem
• 56:51
  a
• 56:51
  little
• 56:51
  more
• 56:51
  clearer
• 56:52
  on
• 56:52
  the
• 56:53
  mission.
• 56:53
  Yeah.
• 56:54
  Like,
• 56:54
  where
• 56:54
  you're
• 56:54
  going
• 56:54
  and
• 56:55
  what
• 56:55
  you
• 56:55
  want
• 56:55
  to
• 56:55
  do.
• 56:55
  Yeah.
• 56:56
  Mm.
• 56:57
  But
• 56:58
  it's
• 56:58
  interesting.
• 56:58
  Yeah.
• 56:59
  It
• 57:00
  has
• 57:00
  definitely
• 57:00
  been
• 57:00
  an
• 57:01
  evolving
• 57:02
  experience.
• 57:03
  This
• 57:04
  podcast
• 57:04
  for.
• 57:05
  Learned
• 57:05
  a
• 57:05
  lot.
• 57:06
  Yeah.
• 57:07
  But,
• 57:07
  yeah.
• 57:08
  Is
• 57:09
  there.
• 57:09
  Is
• 57:09
  there
• 57:10
  anything
• 57:10
  that
• 57:11
  you
• 57:11
  feel
• 57:11
  like
• 57:11
  we
• 57:11
  didn't
• 57:12
  touch
• 57:12
  on
• 57:12
  that
• 57:12
  you
• 57:12
  want
• 57:13
  to
• 57:13
  hit
• 57:14
  before
• 57:14
  we
• 57:14
  say
• 57:14
  no?
• 57:14
  I
• 57:15
  think
• 57:15
  you
• 57:15
  guys
• 57:15
  did
• 57:15
  a
• 57:15
  great
• 57:16
  job
• 57:16
  on
• 57:16
  asking
• 57:17
  me
• 57:17
  specifically.
• 57:19
  It
• 57:19
  was
• 57:19
  really
• 57:19
  great.
• 57:20
  I
• 57:20
  loved
• 57:20
  being
• 57:20
  on
• 57:21
  today.
• 57:21
  Thank
• 57:21
  you
• 57:21
  so
• 57:21
  much
• 57:22
  for
• 57:22
  having
• 57:22
  me.
• 57:23
  You're
• 57:23
  amazing.
• 57:23
  We
• 57:24
  are
• 57:24
  very
• 57:24
  curious
• 57:25
  people.
• 57:27
  Yeah.
• 57:28
  This
• 57:28
  definitely
• 57:28
  fed
• 57:29
  a
• 57:29
  lot
• 57:29
  of
• 57:29
  curiosity,
• 57:30
  and
• 57:30
  I
• 57:30
  really
• 57:30
  felt
• 57:31
  it.
• 57:31
  And
• 57:31
  like
• 57:32
  I
• 57:32
  said
• 57:32
  earlier
• 57:33
  when
• 57:33
  we
• 57:34
  had
• 57:34
  our
• 57:34
  little
• 57:34
  pre
• 57:34
  interview
• 57:35
  and
• 57:35
  we're
• 57:35
  talking,
• 57:36
  my
• 57:36
  brain
• 57:36
  was
• 57:37
  literally
• 57:37
  like
• 57:38
  a
• 57:38
  cd,
• 57:39
  skipping,
• 57:39
  going,
• 57:40
  what?
• 57:40
  You
• 57:40
  can't.
• 57:41
  Well,
• 57:41
  you're
• 57:41
  not
• 57:41
  giving
• 57:42
  me
• 57:42
  an
• 57:42
  outline,
• 57:42
  though.
• 57:42
  Like,
• 57:43
  I
• 57:43
  need
• 57:43
  help.
• 57:43
  Like,
• 57:44
  I
• 57:44
  need
• 57:44
  help.
• 57:44
  I
• 57:44
  need,
• 57:44
  like,
• 57:45
  details
• 57:45
  on
• 57:45
  what
• 57:45
  we're
• 57:45
  talking
• 57:46
  about.
• 57:46
  And
• 57:46
  you're
• 57:46
  like,
• 57:47
  no.
• 57:47
  Oh,
• 57:49
  no.
• 57:50
  Intuition.
• 57:51
  Like,
• 57:51
  my
• 57:51
  intuition
• 57:51
  will
• 57:52
  tell
• 57:52
  us
• 57:52
  what
• 57:52
  we're
• 57:52
  talking
• 57:53
  about.
• 57:53
  Like,
• 57:53
  it
• 57:53
  is
• 57:54
  fine.
• 57:54
  And
• 57:55
  I
• 57:55
  didn't
• 57:55
  stress
• 57:55
  about
• 57:55
  it.
• 57:56
  We
• 57:56
  got
• 57:56
  off
• 57:56
  the
• 57:56
  phone
• 57:56
  call.
• 57:56
  I'm
• 57:56
  like,
• 57:57
  shit,
• 57:57
  I
• 57:58
  don't
• 57:58
  know
• 57:58
  how
• 57:58
  to
• 57:58
  feel
• 57:58
  about
• 57:58
  this.
• 57:59
  I
• 57:59
  feel
• 57:59
  very
• 57:59
  underprepared.
• 58:00
  And
• 58:00
  then
• 58:01
  today,
• 58:01
  like,
• 58:01
  we
• 58:02
  sat
• 58:02
  down,
• 58:02
  I
• 58:02
  go,
• 58:03
  melissa,
• 58:04
  four
• 58:05
  questions.
• 58:05
  That's
• 58:05
  all
• 58:05
  I
• 58:05
  got.
• 58:06
  We're
• 58:07
  going
• 58:07
  with
• 58:07
  it.
• 58:07
  And
• 58:08
  I
• 58:08
  wasn't
• 58:08
  stressed.
• 58:09
  Oh,
• 58:09
  good.
• 58:11
  That
• 58:11
  means.
• 58:11
  I
• 58:11
  feel
• 58:11
  like.
• 58:12
  That
• 58:12
  means
• 58:12
  she
• 58:12
  felt,
• 58:13
  like,
• 58:13
  some
• 58:13
  calmness
• 58:14
  and
• 58:15
  security
• 58:15
  and
• 58:15
  talking
• 58:16
  to
• 58:16
  you,
• 58:16
  Laura.
• 58:17
  Yeah.
• 58:18
  Yeah.
• 58:19
  I'm
• 58:19
  so
• 58:19
  glad.
• 58:19
  I
• 58:20
  love
• 58:20
  just
• 58:20
  seeing
• 58:21
  where
• 58:21
  we
• 58:21
  go,
• 58:21
  you
• 58:22
  know?
• 58:22
  And
• 58:22
  I
• 58:22
  think
• 58:23
  those
• 58:23
  are
• 58:23
  the
• 58:23
  conversations.
• 58:24
  Yeah.
• 58:25
  Being
• 58:25
  able
• 58:25
  to,
• 58:25
  like,
• 58:26
  see
• 58:26
  where
• 58:27
  we
• 58:27
  flow.
• 58:27
  And
• 58:27
  I
• 58:27
  feel
• 58:28
  like
• 58:28
  you
• 58:28
  asked
• 58:28
  a
• 58:28
  lot
• 58:28
  of.
• 58:28
  Yeah.
• 58:29
  Like,
• 58:29
  specifics.
• 58:30
  Like
• 58:30
  I
• 58:30
  said,
• 58:31
  that's
• 58:32
  great
• 58:32
  to
• 58:32
  ask,
• 58:33
  but
• 58:33
  it's.
• 58:33
  They're
• 58:33
  hard
• 58:34
  to
• 58:34
  describe,
• 58:34
  but
• 58:35
  at
• 58:35
  the
• 58:35
  same
• 58:35
  time,
• 58:35
  once
• 58:36
  you
• 58:36
  describe
• 58:36
  them,
• 58:36
  then
• 58:37
  people
• 58:37
  are
• 58:37
  like,
• 58:37
  oh,
• 58:38
  that's
• 58:38
  what
• 58:38
  you
• 58:38
  mean
• 58:39
  when
• 58:39
  you
• 58:39
  say
• 58:39
  that.
• 58:41
  Yeah.
• 58:42
  And
• 58:42
  I
• 58:43
  feel
• 58:43
  like
• 58:43
  I
• 58:43
  was
• 58:43
  able
• 58:44
  to
• 58:44
  experience
• 58:45
  during
• 58:45
  this
• 58:45
  interview
• 58:46
  and
• 58:46
  conversation,
• 58:47
  like,
• 58:47
  actual,
• 58:49
  like,
• 58:49
  energy
• 58:50
  flow
• 58:50
  of
• 58:50
  sorts
• 58:51
  because,
• 58:51
  like,
• 58:51
  I
• 58:51
  actually
• 58:52
  feel,
• 58:52
  like,
• 58:52
  spent.
• 58:53
  Like,
• 58:53
  I
• 58:53
  actually
• 58:54
  feel
• 58:54
  like,
• 58:54
  oh,
• 58:54
  I
• 58:54
  was
• 58:55
  feeling
• 58:55
  things.
• 58:55
  I
• 58:56
  was
• 58:56
  exploring
• 58:57
  being
• 58:57
  curious,
• 58:57
  and
• 58:57
  now
• 58:58
  I'm
• 58:58
  like,
• 58:59
  now
• 58:59
  I
• 58:59
  just
• 58:59
  need
• 59:00
  time
• 59:00
  to
• 59:00
  just
• 59:00
  sit
• 59:00
  in
• 59:01
  it
• 59:01
  for
• 59:01
  a
• 59:01
  minute
• 59:01
  and
• 59:02
  just
• 59:02
  really
• 59:02
  think
• 59:02
  about
• 59:03
  what
• 59:03
  we
• 59:03
  did
• 59:03
  here.
• 59:04
  Yeah.
• 59:04
  Yeah.
• 59:05
  I
• 59:06
  feel.
• 59:06
  I
• 59:06
  definitely
• 59:06
  had
• 59:07
  some
• 59:07
  feelings,
• 59:07
  too.
• 59:07
  Like,
• 59:08
  just
• 59:08
  really,
• 59:08
  like,
• 59:08
  strong,
• 59:09
  goosebumpy
• 59:10
  style.
• 59:10
  Yeah.
• 59:11
  When
• 59:11
  you
• 59:11
  were
• 59:11
  talking
• 59:12
  and
• 59:12
  I
• 59:12
  felt
• 59:12
  like
• 59:12
  you
• 59:12
  were
• 59:12
  speaking
• 59:13
  some
• 59:13
  truth.
• 59:15
  Are
• 59:16
  you
• 59:16
  taking
• 59:16
  on
• 59:16
  clients
• 59:17
  just
• 59:17
  for
• 59:17
  our
• 59:17
  listeners
• 59:18
  who
• 59:18
  may
• 59:18
  want
• 59:18
  to
• 59:19
  end
• 59:19
  up
• 59:19
  maybe
• 59:19
  doing
• 59:19
  a
• 59:20
  shamanic
• 59:20
  journey
• 59:21
  or
• 59:21
  something
• 59:21
  with
• 59:21
  you.
• 59:22
  You
• 59:22
  said
• 59:22
  you
• 59:22
  do
• 59:22
  a
• 59:22
  lot
• 59:22
  of
• 59:22
  zoom.
• 59:23
  Yeah,
• 59:24
  yeah.
• 59:24
  Calls
• 59:25
  and
• 59:25
  stuff.
• 59:25
  I'm
• 59:26
  being
• 59:26
  very
• 59:27
  specific
• 59:28
  on
• 59:28
  who
• 59:28
  I
• 59:28
  take
• 59:28
  right
• 59:29
  now
• 59:29
  because
• 59:29
  I'm
• 59:29
  so
• 59:30
  busy,
• 59:30
  but
• 59:31
  I
• 59:31
  am
• 59:32
  taking
• 59:32
  on
• 59:32
  clients
• 59:33
  as
• 59:33
  far
• 59:33
  as,
• 59:33
  like,
• 59:33
  parachutes
• 59:34
  and
• 59:34
  workshops.
• 59:35
  And
• 59:36
  I
• 59:36
  have
• 59:36
  a
• 59:36
  lot
• 59:36
  of
• 59:36
  speaking
• 59:37
  engagements
• 59:37
  coming
• 59:38
  up
• 59:38
  where
• 59:38
  I'm
• 59:38
  starting
• 59:38
  to
• 59:39
  speak
• 59:39
  more
• 59:39
  out
• 59:40
  at
• 59:40
  conferences.
• 59:41
  And
• 59:42
  so,
• 59:42
  yeah,
• 59:43
  I
• 59:43
  would
• 59:43
  love,
• 59:43
  if
• 59:44
  anybody
• 59:44
  is
• 59:45
  interested
• 59:45
  to
• 59:45
  follow
• 59:46
  me
• 59:46
  on
• 59:46
  Instagram
• 59:47
  @DFW
• 59:49
  spirituality
• 59:50
  altogether,
• 59:51
  like
• 59:51
  Dallas
• 59:52
  Ft.
• 59:53
  DFW
• 59:53
  spirituality.
• 59:54
  And
• 59:55
  if
• 59:55
  you're
• 59:55
  listening
• 59:56
  and
• 59:56
  you
• 59:56
  want
• 59:56
  to
• 59:56
  drop
• 59:57
  me
• 59:57
  a
• 59:58
  message,
• 59:59
  you
• 59:59
  know,
• 1:00:00
  you
• 1:00:00
  can
• 1:00:00
  also
• 1:00:00
  email
• 1:00:01
  me
• 1:00:01
  at
• 1:00:02
  DFW
• 1:00:04
  spirituality
• 1:00:05
  mgmtmail.com
• 1:00:10
  and
• 1:00:10
  my.
• 1:00:10
  My
• 1:00:11
  lady
• 1:00:11
  who
• 1:00:11
  helps
• 1:00:11
  me
• 1:00:12
  will
• 1:00:12
  get
• 1:00:12
  it,
• 1:00:12
  but
• 1:00:12
  she'll.
• 1:00:13
  She'll
• 1:00:13
  kick
• 1:00:13
  it
• 1:00:13
  over
• 1:00:14
  to
• 1:00:14
  me
• 1:00:14
  so
• 1:00:14
  I
• 1:00:14
  can
• 1:00:15
  respond.
• 1:00:16
  Oh,
• 1:00:16
  awesome.
• 1:00:18
  I
• 1:00:18
  had
• 1:00:18
  so
• 1:00:18
  much
• 1:00:18
  fun
• 1:00:19
  this
• 1:00:19
  morning.
• 1:00:19
  Thank
• 1:00:19
  you
• 1:00:19
  too.
• 1:00:20
  So
• 1:00:20
  much.
• 1:00:20
  It
• 1:00:20
  was
• 1:00:21
  beautiful.
• 1:00:21
  Thank
• 1:00:21
  you
• 1:00:22
  so
• 1:00:22
  much.
• 1:00:22
  Laura,
• 1:00:24
  if
• 1:00:24
  you
• 1:00:24
  liked
• 1:00:25
  what
• 1:00:25
  you
• 1:00:25
  heard
• 1:00:25
  today,
• 1:00:26
  hit
• 1:00:26
  that,
• 1:00:26
  like,
• 1:00:26
  button
• 1:00:27
  or
• 1:00:27
  the
• 1:00:27
  subscribe
• 1:00:28
  button
• 1:00:28
  or
• 1:00:29
  whatever
• 1:00:29
  button
• 1:00:29
  it
• 1:00:30
  is
• 1:00:30
  that
• 1:00:30
  you
• 1:00:30
  hit.
• 1:00:30
  Have
• 1:00:31
  just
• 1:00:31
  hit
• 1:00:31
  it.
• 1:00:32
  To
• 1:00:32
  continue
• 1:00:33
  this
• 1:00:33
  conversation
• 1:00:33
  with
• 1:00:34
  us,
• 1:00:34
  join
• 1:00:34
  the
• 1:00:34
  Skirts
• 1:00:35
  up
• 1:00:35
  show
• 1:00:35
  on.
• 1:00:36
  What.
• 1:00:37
  What
• 1:00:37
  is
• 1:00:37
  it
• 1:00:37
  again?
• 1:00:38
  Well,
• 1:00:38
  we
• 1:00:38
  have
• 1:00:38
  Facebook,
• 1:00:39
  we
• 1:00:39
  have
• 1:00:39
  YouTube
• 1:00:41
  and
• 1:00:41
  Pinterest.
• 1:00:42
  And
• 1:00:42
  no,
• 1:00:42
  we
• 1:00:43
  do
• 1:00:43
  not
• 1:00:43
  have
• 1:00:43
  a
• 1:00:43
  Pinterest,
• 1:00:43
  but
• 1:00:44
  we
• 1:00:44
  have
• 1:00:44
  Instagram.
• 1:00:45
  You
• 1:00:45
  knew
• 1:00:45
  what
• 1:00:46
  I
• 1:00:46
  meant.
• 1:00:48
  Rate
• 1:00:48
  and
• 1:00:48
  review.
• 1:00:49
  Rate
• 1:00:50
  and
• 1:00:50
  review.