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British Academy Film Awards 2026 preview – BAFTAs Bonus · CinemaHounds - A Lorehounds Podcast

• 0:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hello and welcome to Cinema Hounds, a Laura Hound's podcast, I'm Alicia and this is the second special award season bonus episode.
• 0:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: This time talking about everything you need to prepare for this weekend's 79th annual British Academy Film Awards, better known as the BAFTAs.
• 0:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: So these are not to be confused with the British Academy Television Awards, which are held in May, or the Game Awards held before that in April.
• 0:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: All three are from the BAFTA Organization, or the British Academy of Film and Television Arts.
• 0:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: But this is their original premiere and most importantly for this discussion, the film awards.
• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the film awards are airing this Sunday February 22nd at 5 p.m. UK time or 11 a.m. Eastern time.
• 1:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they are airing in the UK on BBC One or the iPlayer.
• 1:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: In the US they're airing on Bripbox Live, although E will apparently have air in edited version for Americans at 8 p.m. Eastern Time.
• 1:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can find a link in the show notes with a list of where to watch per country.
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the first answer in the FAQ page, but you might want to still check your local listings, because for example, it says on this page that they're airing it on HBO Max and Australia, good.
• 1:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Brazil is an included and they do usually air on HBO Max there as well as far as I
• 1:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, just make sure you check your double check your local listings if it's missing.
• 1:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't mean they're not airing in your country.
• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And definitely it's definitely worth watching.
• 1:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, this is the first year in a few years.
• 2:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't have David Tenip, but we are have Alan coming as our host this year.
• 2:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm definitely looking forward to that.
• 2:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't even watch traders, but I love Alan coming from other things.
• 2:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think he'll be a great host.
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: We will be trying a live watch again on the Laura Hound's Discord for anyone who can and wants to join.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: This again, this will be early in the day for the US.
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So 11 am if you're on the East Coast, 8 am if you're on the West Coast.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I understand that might not work as well for people, but hopefully we can get more brits and maybe even people further east involved this time.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see how it works out.
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be there.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So just check out the discord on the day of and I will have the live chat for the word season up under current shows so we can check there.
• 2:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And don't worry if you don't know anything about the buff does this episode is your prep.
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to let you know what's nominated in which categories, including how these nominations compare to or might affect the Oscar nominations or wins, I should say the final Oscar voting begins four days after this ceremony airs and so it's likely to be at least a little bit reactionary to how these awards go.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: like we saw with the Golden Globes.
• 3:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Since the nominee voting started shortly after the Golden Globes, we definitely saw some reactions to the outcomes there.
• 3:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Although I will say, although this is considered one of the most important Oscar precursors,
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is a different voting body and it does always vote differently.
• 3:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's always things that make people feel uneasy on edge because unexpected things happen with the buff does.
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's a different group and obviously there's going to be a lot more British taste and British pride reflected in this.
• 3:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see some of that in the nominations as we go through.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, of course, there are some specific British-only categories, but also overall, you might see that come up more in other categories.
• 4:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: The specific British-only categories, by the way, are the two shorts categories, which we talked about in a separate episode.
• 4:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll get back to that in a sec.
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And two of the features categories, the Outstanding British Film and Outstanding debut.
• 4:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: So what I'm going to do here is name all of the nominations, and there is a link to a letterbox list in the show note.
• 4:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: So check that out with a breakdown of the number of nominations per film and what exactly is in each category.
• 4:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: For this, I will shout all of that out, but I will focus on the films that are not also nominated for Oscars.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: The yield notice that there is a lot of overlap, as we go.
• 4:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: To be eligible for the BAFTAs, though, what's required for features, at least, is a theatrical opening, and needs to first open theatrically, and it needs to play at least seven consecutive days in a UK cinema during the calendar year in question.
• 5:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is why, for example, K-pop demon hunters is not on this list.
• 5:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do really like K-pop demon hunters, but I think it's kind of nice, it's not here because it wouldn't be nice to just let a different animated film win something this year.
• 5:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, they didn't, you know, it's Netflix and they didn't want to do the full theatrical release in the UK and that's why they're not here.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: They tried to petition to get an exception and baffed us like no, you do the theaters or you're out.
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: but of course lots of other films did make it.
• 5:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have 55 films nominated this year in 26 categories and I'm including the rising star awarded that.
• 5:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll talk more about why that one's different in a moment.
• 6:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: But as I said, you'll see a lot of overlap with the Oscars and a lot of repeat nominations.
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this will like the spirit's episode speed up as we go even more so in this case, I think.
• 6:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Especially because we've already talked about two of the categories.
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about the eight nominated shorts in two categories in separate episodes.
• 6:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: You'll find that linked in the show notes.
• 6:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And just a spoiler clarification.
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: As we go, I will talk about the premises of the various movies, and maybe some things I did or didn't like about them personally, but I will avoid all film spoilers.
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: just teasers in general thoughts and then I will end again with my top 10 features that are not nominated for an Oscar because obviously we'll talk about all those other films in the whole full Oscar series.
• 6:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So let's start with the one of these categories that's not like the others.
• 6:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned the rising star award or you'll hear it called the EE rising star award because EE is a telecom company that sponsors this award.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: It used to be the orange rising star award, whatever.
• 7:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not showing for you any more EE.
• 7:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to call it the rising star award.
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: The thing that makes this different is this is the only
• 7:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the only award voted by the public, so people from home can vote here, but it only works in the UK.
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: As of this year, you actually have to verify with a UK phone number before you can vote even if you vote on the web.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the winner of this award is the actor themselves, and it's ostensibly for their overall body of work up to that point.
• 7:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: not necessarily for a specific film they're in this year, but usually the nomination is unofficially attached to a specific film.
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I will shout those out and I did include those films in the total nominations.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this is the rising star award is as it sounds given to the nominee that the public thinks I suppose has the most exciting career ahead.
• 8:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's arguably there are a few awards bodies that give out a similar award.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: This one might be the most prestigious.
• 8:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's been going on for 20 years now.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: The first award was given to James McAvoy in 2006.
• 8:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he beat Juitello G4, Gaiogasia Pranal, Rachel McAdams, and Michelle Williams.
• 8:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, as you can see, the nominees in these categories tend to age well.
• 8:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Other winners have included Avergreen, Kristen Stewart, Tom Hardy, Juno Tempo, Will Polter, Jack O'Connell,
• 8:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: John Boyega, Tom Holland, Daniel Caluya, Emma Mackie, and last year's winner was David Johnson.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, yeah, I skipped a bunch, and if you're like, oh, she skipped the controversial ones, then yes, he could hear, I did, but I also skipped some others, there's a lot.
• 9:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's speaking of a lot, just to highlight some of the nominees who didn't win, just to show, you know,
• 9:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: This really is an award where it's truly an honor just to be nominated, the people who are honored just to have been nominated are from, you know, the early days, people like Emily Blunt's, Killian Murphy, Elliott Page, Michael Sarah, Michael Fassbender and Rebecca Hall were all nominated in the same year and then lost to no Tharks, so that's a win the didn't age well, but most of them did age well.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: The next year, Jesse Eisenberg, Nicholas Holt and Carrie Mulligan were all nominated together.
• 9:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, we've got, like, in the intervening years, Andrew Garfield, Emma Stone, Chris Hemwitzworth, Tom Hiddleston, Eddie Redmayne, all three of those went up against each other, Elizabeth Olson, Lupita Njongo.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Margo Rabi, Anya Taylor Joy, Timothy Shalame, Florence, Pew, Tessa Thompson, Jacob, Ballority.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: You get the point.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll stop there.
• 10:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: The nominees do tend to genuinely go on to become true stars.
• 10:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, who is nominated this year?
• 10:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: While the 2026 nominees are Archima Dequey, who is this year in Lerker.
• 10:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Chase Infinity from one battle after another, Miles Caiton from Seniors, Posi Sterling from Lollipop, and Roberts are a male from I swear.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now,
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Chase Infinity and Miles Canton, those are, they have a similar story where they are the two breakout stars of the two biggest films of the year, both of them, it's their first feature.
• 10:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm not going to spend too much time talking about the movies, one battle left or another, or sinners themselves, because I am talking about them in almost every single episode of this series.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I will say that one battle after another, you know, we had sinners broke a nomination record for the Oscars, one battle after another, broke a record for the baffdas, including this award.
• 11:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were nominated in 15 categories, although the record is the fact that they were
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: which beats the previous record held by a tie between last year's Emilia Perez Mac.
• 11:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: A three-way tie from 2023's Barbie Killers of the Flower Moon and Oppenheimer, and also 2022's All Quiet on the Western Front.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: these all had 15 mentions on the long list, so you can see it's kind of a more recent trend to have the greater concentration in a few movies with a lot of nominations.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the nominations that one battle after another got at the Baptist, this year is in addition to rising star, best film, director, adapted screenplay, actress for chase infinity,
• 12:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: um, actor for Leonardo DiCaprio, supporting actress for Tiana Taylor, to supporting actor nominees, Benicio del Toro and Sean Penn, casting cinematography, editing, score, production design, and sound, and the two additional categories that one battle was longlisted for, but did not get nominated for his costume design and make up and hair.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, if we go to my favorite of these two miles caten for sinners, obviously sinners has done just fine as well.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: They, including this category, received 14 nominations.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the other ones are for best film, best director, original screenplay actor for Michael B. Jordan, supporting actress for Wumi Musaku.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: casting cinematography, costume design, make-up and hair, editing, score, production design, and sound.
• 13:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, um, sitters was also long-listed in the supporting actor category for Delroy Lindo, but unfortunately, he did not get a...
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: nomination here despite the fact that I've recently learned he is actually British although when he speaks like he was just speaking at the spirit awards and he just has the most neutral accent ever.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he just spent in too many American films and he's just kind of lost his British accent so I feel better about not realizing until just now that he's British.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, those one battle on sinners, I'll shout them out as we go, but as I said, we're talking about them.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely everywhere else.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's talk about some new films.
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I said Archima Dequay is nominated, he was this year in Lerker.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: You might have also seen him before in things like saltburne, midsummer, the I first saw him in the Apple TV show, see.
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: with the, the one with Jason Momoa and the society of blind people, but as for Lerker, I did talk about that one a lot in the spirit's preview episode.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It did go on Lerker to win best first feature and best first screenplay at spirits.
• 14:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I'll just a reminder that this is the one about the guy from L.A. who becomes obsessed with the celebrity and tries to like, for Nagle his way into his entourage, and Archie Madecway plays the celebrity.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, he, he does a very well.
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: He deserves this nomination for sure, and I can't believe Lerker didn't get more attention here.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, the one film that's not on the rest of this list or any other list is Lollipop, which is the film that led to posse Sterling getting this nomination.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, Lollipop, you can watch it on the BBC iPlayer, and it's about Molly, a young woman released from prison who struggles to regain custody of her children.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: When she bumps into her childhood friend Amina, the two women soon realized their only chances to join forces and take destiny into their own hands.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, um, yeah, I mean, I like this one.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Posie Sterling was really impressive.
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's difficult to believe.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think this was her first feature actually, although she's done some like guest stars or I guess she's played to minor roles in features, but this is really her first massive role like this and where she'd been hiding.
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I hope we'll see her in more soon.
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: The film itself.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not as much as of a downer as it might seem or it is quite stressful.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did get into it and I found the ending pleasing, so yeah, I recommend watching it if you're interested.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the big British film here and the person who I think might win this category is Robert
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Laura Houndz might know Robert Armeil for a different role.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: He is young Elrond in rings of power.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I also saw him this year in another film called Palestine 36, which is was the Palestinian submission to the Oscars and was shortlisted but not nominated.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: He played a villain there, very mustache-trolling villain.
• 16:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, between those three roles that I know him from, I do think this one, I swear, is the best one.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's incredible the transformation where, well, let me set up what it is.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So,
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: The tagline is, I blink, I twitch, I jump, I click, I whistle, I shout, and if you haven't figured it out yet, this is a film about a character with Tourette syndrome.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And his performance of this was so both sensitive and very convincing, like I know a lot of people were looking up after week.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, does he actually have Tourette syndrome?
• 17:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And no, he doesn't.
• 17:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the film is inspired by the life of John Davidson, charting his journey from a misunderstood teenager in 1980's Britain to a present-day advocate for the understanding and acceptance of Tourette syndrome.
• 17:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Diagnosed at age 15, John navigates his way against the odds through troubled teenage years and into adulthood, finding inspiration in the kindness of others to discover his true purpose in life.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: and I'll say it does open with a scene that you come back to later in the film where he is getting knighted by the queen.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: He tells her to go fuck herself.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm wondering if that is accurate.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: this is one of the of the films that are not nominated for an Oscar.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is, I guess, has the most nominations.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: It has six nominations for this for Outstanding British Film, original screenplay actor for Robert R. Mayo.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Supporting actor for Peter Mullin and casting and it was also longlisted for best film not just best British film, but unfortunately Was not nominated in the best film category.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about that.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a few were slots there But yeah, so since Robert our our mail was also nominated for best actor will this one be his consolation prize?
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can he win both?
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I said chase infinity is also nominated for both, but I think this might be a case where British pride wins, and I just have to say that his is just an extremely impressive performance on a whole bunch of different levels, so I'm rooting for him.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to see this film for yourself and I highly recommend it, then it's in the UK, it's already on video on demand, but it's still being rolled out in theaters in the rest of the world.
• 19:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, for example, here in the Netherlands, I know it's opening March 26th,
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe in the US, it will be opening in theaters April 24th, so watch out for it to play near you.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've yet to hear anyone say a bad thing about this film, so it's a very pleasant drama, but I think a lot of people find it also really eye-opening, and just Robert Armail again.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: deserves this award.
• 19:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, this is a good place to take a quick break and when we come back, we're going to talk about the main body of awards those voted by the British Academy.
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Be right back.
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's get into the main awards voted on by the British Academy.
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: We've already discussed the full long list of the shorts in a separate episode, which is linked in the show notes, but congratulations to the nominees in the British short animation category, cardboard, solstice, two black boys and paradise, and the British
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Terrence, this is endometriosis, and welcome home freckles, please listen to that shorts episode for the BAFTAs to learn more about them, and my thoughts and predictions about that.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you can also, by the way, for a limited time, if you're listening as this drops, watch all of these shorts on YouTube, there are a couple that are due locked to the UK, but most are available from anywhere.
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... you can find those on the baffed as channel so we'll just be talking about the feature films here and uh... just a note that at the baffed as all categories except for the rising star are long listed so most categories have five nominations like at the Oscars most other awards ceremonies um... acting and directing categories
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: have six nominations, and there are a few other deviations I'll shout out as we go already mentioned that the animated shorts only has three films in it.
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: But what I'll do here is I will list the nominees per category, talk about any new films that come up, and share my predictions and how I think some outcomes could affect the Oscar race as well, and then I'll shout out to any other highlights or recommendations from the categories long list.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: So let's start with the big prize best to film, there's five nominees in this category and the nominees are Hamlet, Marty Supreme, one battle after another, sentimental value and sinners.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And these are considered also the five strongest Oscar nominees.
• 22:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, interesting matching lineup, a lot of matching lineups at the Oscars this year.
• 22:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've already shouted out one battle left or another and sinners.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And all of their many nominations that will keep coming up in all of these categories.
• 22:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: But let's talk about, let's talk about HamNet.
• 22:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that is the other biggest player, especially, this is also by the way in the next category, Outstanding British Film.
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the only one that overlaps both categories.
• 22:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that the inherent Britishness of HamNet is likely going to help it do better here at the BAFTAs than it will at the Oscars.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is, you know, after all, it's a story about William Shakespeare.
• 22:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm not going to get into, like, the plot to everything of all these films because we are talking about them all extensively over a whole bunch of episodes.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I will say Hamnid has 11 nominations, including Best Film, Outstanding British Film, Director, Adapted Screenplay, Actress for Jesse Buckley, Supporting Actress for Emily Watson, Supporting Actor for Paul Mescal.
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: costume design, makeup and hair, score and production design, it was actually on three additional long lists for casting cinematography and editing as well, which I'm surprised it didn't get at least two of those, but there's obviously a lot of support for this one across the board.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll keep talking about it as we go.
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Marty Supreme, another one of the big ones, I'm not sure it's going to win much of the buff does except maybe best actor, for example.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it is also nominated 11 times for best film, director, original screenplay, lead actor victim at the Shalame, supporting actress for Odessa, Zion, casting, cinematography, production design, costume design, makeup and hair and editing.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was on 13 long lists, so the other two that it didn't get nominations for supporting actress for Gwen and the Paltrow and Skore.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: and sentimental value, also doing quite well at the BAFTA's eight nominations for Best Film, Film Not an English Director, original screenplay, lead actors for Renata Rhinseva, supporting actress for Inge Ebstotter Lilias, supporting actor for Stella and Skarsgard and casting.
• 24:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that is actually, it's swept, it's longlist.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was longlisted eight times and it got
• 24:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, if to wonder, you know, I talked about British support, maybe booing, a British film is a little bit extra, that does have a slight halo effect to other European films that make it this far, so it could sentimental value benefit from that as well.
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, as far as who I think will win this, I mean, I think that this might be one battle after another, the biggest nominee winning, and as I said, I have hopes that it will trigger a backlash that pushes things sinners away for the Oscars.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do think if anyone else wins this one, HamNet has an especially good chance of winning at the BAFTAs for a best feature.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: we shall see.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: The rest of the long list for Best Feature for Best Film was the Ballet of Wallace Island.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about that in a minute.
• 25:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bogonia, Frankenstein, also Oscar nominees, I swear.
• 25:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the Robert R. Mio one about Tourette and Nuremberg, which is one that we'll see in the long list.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was long listed six times zero nominations.
• 25:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It
• 25:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is set during the Nuremberg trials, it's about especially Rami Malik's Army Psychiatrist and Russell Crowe's head Nazi kind of forming an odd bond during the lead up to the Nuremberg trials.
• 26:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is a bit, I don't know, it's an imperfect film, it's a bit fracture, but there are some interesting things in there, but I'm not surprised it didn't secure the norms in the end.
• 26:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's unfortunately, maybe not the film that we would hope for from something called Nuremberg at this particular moment in history.
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that brings us to Outstanding British Film.
• 26:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is the biggest category in terms of nomination.
• 26:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: There are 10 nominees.
• 26:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this year, only one overlap with Best Film, which I said is Hamlet.
• 26:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the 10 nominees are 28 years later.
• 26:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: The ballot of all asylum, Bridget Jones, Matt about the boy, Die My Love, H is for Hawk, Ham Knit, I swear, Mr. Burton, Pillian,
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: and Steve.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so okay.
• 27:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hamlet is the one that we've talked about.
• 27:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: The overlap might give it an edge in this category this year.
• 27:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I swear we already talked about that as well.
• 27:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's another the other one that I expect to do well.
• 27:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean obviously it wasn't nominated for Oscars at all.
• 27:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: It hasn't even opened in the US until it's until April.
• 27:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I do expect it to take home some awards.
• 27:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a dark horse and a lot of categories including this one.
• 27:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: But let's look at the other films.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now 28 years later, if you are a regular listener to this channel, you may know that I really love that film.
• 27:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: this is obviously not the most recent one that just came out in January, this is the one that came out last year and this, uh, joined sinners as one of my all-time favorites, uh, two all-time favorites in one year.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot.
• 27:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: But okay, here is the summary for those who don't know, in 28 days, it began in 28 weeks, it's spread in 28 years, it evolved.
• 28:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: 28 years since the rage virus escaped a biological weapons laboratory now, still in a ruthlessly enforced quarantine, some have found ways to exist amidst the infected.
• 28:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: One such group lives on a small island connected to the mainland by a single heavily defended causeway.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: When one member departs on a mission into the dark hearts of the mainland, he discovers secrets, wonders, and
• 28:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Boom, boom, boom.
• 28:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it is a zombie movie, but it's a zombie movie that has surprising depth and heart about a family, about what is honesty, look like, what is a society that you build in a place like this,
• 28:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, what do you choose to remember?
• 29:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we have very fine telling us to remember that we will die, but also remember that love keeps us going.
• 29:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, I just, I love the series so much, and this is my favorite movie in it.
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's even a clip 20 days later.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, um,
• 29:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did a deep dive on it with Sean and Riley and that'll be linked in the show notes if you want to check that out and there will be a deep dive into the bone temple, the new film that was just released on video on demand coming very soon coming at the start of March.
• 29:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I won't say too much more about it here, but I will say this is the only nomination I got, unfortunately, I'm grateful that they at least remembered it here, but it was long listed four times, so also for adapted screenplay editing and original score.
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And those are perhaps for me the three things that make this film especially exceptional.
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: really unusual editing.
• 30:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: The way it cuts back and forth and makes these sort of visual references in the middle of the story and the pacing of like with spoken word poetry and just some really exciting editing going on.
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I've been loving that score from young fathers ever since I watched the movie the first time I've been listening to it.
• 30:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I would have loved to have seen it
• 30:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to see 28 years later, it is now for now, at least, on Netflix, so very easy to watch, but of course, warning for Gore.
• 30:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: The next one, another one of my favorite movies of the year, definitely in my top 20 of the year, the ballot of Wallace Island.
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a lovely folk character, dromity, set in a small island community, and there was summary goes, he's getting the band back together.
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: an eccentric lottery winner who lives alone on a remote island tries to make his fantasies come true by getting his favorite musicians to perform at his home and I'll just say there's relationship drama and subterfuge going on and it's just a very quirky funny
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: folk dromity, as I said, yeah.
• 31:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if that is something like once, although this is, this is not quite as sad as once, but if that sort of thing sounds like you're a cup of tea, definitely check out the ballot of Wallace Island.
• 31:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: It received three nominations at the
• 31:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: adopted screenplay and supporting actress for Carrie Mulligan as well as obviously outstanding British film.
• 31:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was long-listed five times so also for best film and score.
• 31:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And our love, the song from it, was by the way shortlisted for best original song at the Oscars, but unfortunately did not get any nominations at the Oscars.
• 32:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can watch it on
• 32:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Next up, Bridget Jones.
• 32:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Matt about the boy.
• 32:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the fourth film in the Bridget Jones series, but it's genuinely the best one since the first everyone agrees on this.
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is the only nomination or long list that it was on, but it was also nominated for the TV film Emmy and DJ A Award.
• 32:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it won the TV film at Critics Choice Award.
• 32:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, it's getting attention because for good reason, the summary is she's starting a new chapter just as she is.
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bridget Jones navigates life as a widow in single mum with the help of her family friends and former lover Daniel.
• 32:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Back to work and on the apps she's pursued by younger man and maybe just maybe.
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: her son's science teacher.
• 32:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it is the whole part about the grief in the first half and how that's handled and how it's portrayed filmatically.
• 33:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to spoil anything, but I think that that was just really accidentally handled and very beautiful the way it's shown and I think just the maturity in the relationships in this film are what make it
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So well embraced, for example, mentions Daniel that's Hugh Grant's character and I like they don't change him.
• 33:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: They don't try to like make him suddenly be a different person.
• 33:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: But there's just, you know, they've known each other for so long.
• 33:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Their love has evolved into this familial kind of love.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it's just really lovely to see all the relationships between these characters who
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: have been in each other's lives for decades now and been in our lives for decades now too.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Bridget Jones mad about the boy definitely worth watching.
• 33:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Next up is Dime I Love, which is a director by Lynn Ramsey.
• 34:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Lynn Ramsey, you might know her from movies like more of her in color, or we need to talk about Kevin.
• 34:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dime I Love, this is the only nomination that got, but it was longlisted for in four categories.
• 34:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So in addition to outstanding British film, it was longlisted for director.
• 34:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Lead actress for Jennifer Lawrence, but not Robert Pattinson for lead actor.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: cinematography.
• 34:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is just as for Robert Pattinson this year, but especially he should have gotten nominated for Mickey 17.
• 34:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, I've said that enough.
• 34:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So okay, die my love, the plot, as much as there is one, is grace.
• 34:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: A writer and young mother is slowly slipping into madness, locked away in an old house in Montana, her increasingly agitated and erratic behavior,
• 34:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you can watch this on movie.
• 34:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say it's it's not my favorite personally.
• 34:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's beautiful I can see why it was long-listed for cinematography No fault to the acting of either of the leads of course
• 35:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: but it's just it's about basically a sort of postpartum psychosis and it just rings false in that regard to me and I've heard a lot of other people say the same thing and it just doesn't really not much happens in it.
• 35:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just kind of people being unhappy for two hours.
• 35:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't love it personally but other people definitely do love it.
• 35:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: So take that for what it's worth.
• 35:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Check
• 35:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Next one up, I did like better.
• 35:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's ages for Hawk.
• 35:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: After losing her beloved father, Helen finds herself saved by an unlikely friendship with a stubborn Hawk named Mabel.
• 35:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Through the bond, Helen discovers the beauty of being alive.
• 35:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this has a great cast with Claire Foie.
• 35:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a central character, Helen, Brendan Gleason plays her father, Denise Gau is her best friend, Lindsey Duncan is her mother, her fantastic cast.
• 36:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the only nomination of Gats or appearance on the long list.
• 36:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, I, I, I liked it.
• 36:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, I am a bird person.
• 36:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm an animal person.
• 36:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am also a specifically bird person.
• 36:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I grew up around parrots, not hawks.
• 36:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: These hawks are a whole other thing.
• 36:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Especially considering I'm a vegetarian.
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was very interesting though.
• 36:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I learned a lot about hawking through this movie.
• 36:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think this movie also said some things about depression that maybe a lot of us need to hear.
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's fun that it's set at Cambridge.
• 36:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got to visit Cambridge when my friends were in grad school there and eat in the room that they eat out in the movie But anyway, age is for hawk if you want to learn more about hawking You're not not the man, but the activity and see that excellent British cast then this film is out in theaters now in the US and UK
• 37:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: which brings us to Mr. Burton, this is the only nomination that it received, the plot is some are born great, some are inspired to be great.
• 37:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: In the Welsh town of Port Talbot 1942, Richard Jenkins lives as a wavered school boy caught between the pressures of his struggling family.
• 37:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: a devastating war and his own ambitions.
• 37:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: However, a new opportunity arises when Richard's natural talent for drama catches the attention of his teacher, Philip Burton.
• 37:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, spoiler, this is Richard Burton's origin story.
• 37:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't really know much about Richard Burton.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've learned, I didn't even know that he was Welsh.
• 37:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think, but he certainly speaks a lot of Welsh in this film.
• 37:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's played by Harry Laughty, who is someone I've seen in other things.
• 38:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he did a great job.
• 38:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, like, I got the full Richard Burton vibe from him, but I, he did a fantastic job with his transformation where, especially in his voice.
• 38:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's a reason why I didn't realize Richard Burton was Welsh because he spent a lot of time deepening his voice and learning to speak in a very proper, you know, receives pronunciation, British way.
• 38:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so we see Toby Jones is the man who adopts him and trains him and gets him into school.
• 38:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was really engrossed with this movie.
• 38:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to check it out, yourself, you can watch it on the BBC iPlayer, and I do want to shout out that it has some similarities to another movie that unfortunately did not get the nomination, but was on the long list.
• 39:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's called The Coral, starring Ray Fines.
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the summary for the choral is they were divided by war.
• 39:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: He united them in song as World War One rages on.
• 39:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Henry Guthrie takes over a British choral society that's lost most of its men to the army.
• 39:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: The community soon discovers that the best response to the chaos of war is to make beautiful music together.
• 39:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this one's available on video on demand and the similarities are just basically that it's this there's a similarity in tone a sort of light dromity aspect to it both are set during wartime and are about basically pursuing art during wartime over.
• 39:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: What might be seen is more practical, but also the comfort that we find in this and the face of hardships in our lives.
• 39:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I just, I had to especially call out the choral because Marilyn, our favorite Tolkien scholar, Marilyn, our paquilla, she was talking on the discord about the choral
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: that she got a chance to see it in the theater and how much she loved it.
• 40:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I asked if she would record a quick voicemail to share with all of you, just explaining what she found so special in it.
• 40:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: To share her recommendation of the coral.
• 40:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So here we go.
• 40:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hi, Alicia.
• 40:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is Marilyn.
• 40:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bob and I saw the corral a couple of weeks ago now and we both loved it very much.
• 40:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've actually lived for a year in Yorkshire so it was particularly meaningful to me.
• 40:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I thought it was a remarkable statement of the war and its effects on a small Yorkshire mill town as well as a comment on middle class and working class issues and the beauty and the glory of music.
• 41:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought everyone didn't excellent job in their roles.
• 41:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I actually heard a performance of Elgar's dream of Gerontius in New York, Mr. Abbey.
• 41:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: The day before I had to leave York after a year-long sabbatical there, that it is quite an amazing piece.
• 41:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: As a musician myself, I can't say that I really blamed Elgar for his responses as they depicted them in the film.
• 41:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought what they did with the trimming down to fit the capacity of the musicians and relating it directly to the war was a truly masterful idea.
• 41:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: and I grieved over the need for gay men to be closeted in the effects that it had on their lives.
• 41:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry that it didn't meet up to Baptist standards.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: We thought it was excellent.
• 42:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks!
• 42:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I wouldn't say that it didn't meet up to their standards.
• 42:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was longlisted, so that means that it made the semi-finals, so that's definitely, that's more attention than most films get.
• 42:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did recommend to Marilyn also the one that did get nominated that I think I have just have the feeling that there's a similarity between the two that caused people to vote, say, like, oh, we vote for one or the other.
• 42:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Mr. Burton is the one that did get nominated, and I think Marilyn would also very much like it, especially with the Welsh speaking and all that.
• 42:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see what she says about that.
• 42:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Moving on to another much more modern one, Pilion.
• 42:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Pilean is another one of the biggest nominees on the British side here.
• 42:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: It got three nominations for obviously outstanding British film, but also outstanding debut, which I think is its best shot to win a prize and adapted screenplay.
• 43:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was long listed six times, so also for League of Actors, Harry Melling, supporting actor, Alexander Skarsgard, and casting.
• 43:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: and Alexander Skysgrad did a really funny interview.
• 43:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it was like a press conference or something, but he was saying like that he tried to create a smear campaign against his father because his father's getting all the nominations, but his father just got more nominations anyway.
• 43:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love their dynamic as a family.
• 43:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Pillian, the very different movie from sentimental value, the plot of Pillian is Colin, who's the one play by Harry Melling, a timid gay man is swept off his feet when Ray, Alexander Skarsgard, and an enigmatic and impossibly handsome biker takes him on as his submissive in a crazy and erotic BDSM-focused relationship.
• 43:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is one that surprised me because it is actually so
• 44:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Relatively warm and funny and a lot of ways and it was a surprise Christmas movie.
• 44:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was like oh this Christmas movie.
• 44:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's random But yeah, it's it's way funnier than you're probably expecting Although it does leave you with this enigma of a character of Ray, you know I just want to like get the end of the movie is when just shake Ray and we're like who hurt you, baby?
• 44:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: What happened?
• 44:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely, it's something that's been rolling around in my brain since I watched it.
• 44:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I recommend Pilion.
• 44:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that one's currently on a video on demand recent release.
• 44:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the final one in this category was Steve.
• 44:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the only nomination, although it was also longlisted for lead actor for Killian Murphy.
• 44:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the plot is a quiet storm of emotion.
• 44:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Over one intense day, the devoted head teacher of a last chance reform school strives to keep his students in line while facing pressures of a zone.
• 45:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: This one, it's available in Netflix, has an excellent cast, Tracy Olman, Emily Watson, Ben Lloyd Hughes, who plays a kind of villainous character that's, I had to do Sanditin shout out if you're a Sanditin fan, you know he is.
• 45:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, excellent cast.
• 45:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I quite like this one.
• 45:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a very well-written film.
• 45:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is one of those ones.
• 45:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of stressful, but Killy Murphy does an incredible performance.
• 45:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think everyone does a great performance.
• 45:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just, yeah, I think it's
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a well written one, but not one that has any sort of pat ending or anything like that.
• 45:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, if you're wondering for that, although I've heard lots of great things about it from other people of Cinead as well.
• 45:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, high chance you might like it as well.
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: The ones that missed out are Ballet of a small player, we'll come back to that in a sec.
• 45:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Coral obviously, which we already talked about with Marilyn, goodbye June, which was Kate Winslet's directing debut about a family coming together around their matriarch who is in her last days in the hospital.
• 46:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: The roses, a remake of the 80s movie about a couple who loved to hate each other.
• 46:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: This version starring Benedict Cumberbatch and Olivia Coleman, and Warfare, which did get a sound nomination.
• 46:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I talked about that one more in the spirit preview, and I will not rant about it again here.
• 46:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: but just to come back to Bellit of a Small Player, this is an Edward Burger movie.
• 46:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was longlisted in three categories, so this one outstanding British film, but also production designs in photography.
• 46:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: which very deserving, great production, design, and cinematography, and unfortunately got zero nominations.
• 46:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a Colin Ferrell film, he's the main actor, and I think it's way better than people told me.
• 47:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was, people kept saying how bad it was, but I enjoyed it.
• 47:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's perfect.
• 47:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: It definitely should not get any writing nominations, but
• 47:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: The premises emit the glittering casinos of Macau, a gambler running from his past and his debts becomes fascinated by an enigmatic woman at the back of our table.
• 47:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think, yeah, it doesn't, it's not as deep as it tries to be, and some of the dramatic staging is a bit hokey or sometimes cringe, but it's, I mean, I think it's fun, it's stylish, there is emotion in there, and I really enjoyed getting the chance to explore Macau and environments.
• 47:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the ending, I don't want to spoil anything, but normally I was on another podcast complaining about a very similar ending, but in this case it makes a lot of sense in Chinese culture it feels very satisfying to me.
• 47:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, I actually liked ballot of a small player.
• 48:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... you can watch it yourself on Netflix and so that brings us to the outstanding debut this is the other british only category so the full title is outstanding debut by british writer director or producer
• 48:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: back to five nominees.
• 48:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: The nominees are the ceremony.
• 48:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: My father Shadow, Pilion, I want in her and waste man.
• 48:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now two of these, I unfortunately have not been able to see, um, that would be my father's shadow, which unfortunately, yeah, it was playing at the light and international film festival when I went there, but I ended up missing it because of some train travel.
• 48:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ugh.
• 48:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's an Nigerian film about two young brothers who explore Legos with their estranged father during the 1993 Nigerian election crisis, witnessing both the city's magnitude and their father's daily struggles as political unrest threatens their journey home.
• 48:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, I can't say anything more about it than that.
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, people must like it.
• 49:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is in UK theaters now, so if you're in the UK, you can see it waiting to hear what will become of it before beyond that.
• 49:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: It should eventually land on movie.
• 49:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the other one that I unfortunately have not been able to get access to is wasteman.
• 49:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is opening in theaters here in the Netherlands in April.
• 49:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is currently in theaters in the UK, not sure at the plant in the U.S., but it's starring David Johnson and Tom Blife, so great cast and the plot is a bold new vision of life inside.
• 49:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Taylor's hopes for a fresh start post-parole are jeopardized by Selmaid D's arrival, as D takes Taylor under his wing, a vicious attack test their bond, forcing Taylor to choose between protecting D and his own chances of freedom.
• 49:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So again, can't say anything more about it than that, although I know people have seen it in the UK and said it's good, so looking forward to seeing it myself.
• 50:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, the other one I shot it out here is Pillian, I did say I think it will, it should win this category.
• 50:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I hope it wins this category, I think it'll be the only win.
• 50:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the only one that is also nominated or longlisted in other categories, the rest are all single nominations for this category.
• 50:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that leaves two.
• 50:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a want in her from director, mirrored carton.
• 50:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this one, it's the only documentary on this list.
• 50:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: About when her mother, Nuala, goes missing somewhere in Ireland, artist, mirrored carton returns from London to find her.
• 50:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: her search takes her into a feuding family, a contested house, and a history that threatens to take everyone down, including herself.
• 50:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll say this one is an intense confrontation of the cost of alcoholism, but it's somehow manages to mostly be a pleasant hang at the same time.
• 51:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's fantastically edited, it's very emotionally raw footage that juxtapose the past and present in the filmmaker's life, and basically asks how any of us fall off the wagon and the costs of that to everyone around them.
• 51:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to see a want in her, it is currently available through the Skystore in the UK.
• 51:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the final one in this category is the ceremony from Jack King.
• 51:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is, I think it's an unusual film in an intriguing way.
• 51:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's about a ritual for the dead, a reckoning for the living.
• 51:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Two troubled migrant workers in a Bradford car wash are dragged into an escalating moral crisis as night falls.
• 51:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Each of them carries private hopes, traumas, and beliefs shaped by the diverse cultures.
• 51:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: The two men must find a way to work out their differences if they're to stand any chance of saving themselves in their sanity.
• 52:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I mean, this one, for me, it's kind of all about the vibes.
• 52:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's also some times it's inexplicably surreal.
• 52:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a low-key thriller filmed in a dramatically lit, warm, black and white.
• 52:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's about the ways in which people who seem like they might be natural allies are turned against each other by external prejudices and the crushing pressures not to sink under it all.
• 52:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's about the darkest of moments that may or may not bring them back together.
• 52:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: they did surprisingly make me go more than once.
• 52:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: As we see the central relationship kind of thaw and fits in starts but just yeah don't go in expecting a body comedy.
• 52:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely not that.
• 52:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: There are those surreal moments and some a lot of very meditative moments.
• 52:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's like the whole thing is propelled by this slow, droning music.
• 53:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it normally slow cinema isn't my thing, but I was thoroughly engaged in every exchange.
• 53:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: The ending is somewhat ambiguous, but I have an idea that I know what happened next, and so that's a good feeling to leave with.
• 53:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And also, yeah, the lead character, a Romanian actor named Tudor Kuku Duma Tresco.
• 53:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: He reminds me of like a Romanian Theo Rossi, if anyone knows Theo Rossi, you play shades in in Luke Cage, and also was more recently in the Penguin.
• 53:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, that's just the, if anyone's at the Arasi fan, you might also find yourself a tutor, Kuku, Dumerat's school fan.
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, if I butcher the Romanian pronunciation of that name, this one is available on video on demand in the UK.
• 53:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the rest of this along list was the man in my basement, which is a sort of spooky quasi horror film about racism, but also with William Defoe, you can watch that on Disney.
• 54:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mother Vera will come back to that in a moment.
• 54:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ocean with David Attenborough, this one's also in Disney because it's a national geographic film and it's exactly what it sounds like about the ocean just to expect nice pictures and warnings about how we're destroying our planet.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: The shadow scholars is a documentary from Channel 4 about the practice of college students hiring what turned out to be Nigerian researchers and writers and how that's all being upturned now by what's going on with AI and all the controversies around all of that.
• 54:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the final one is Urchin, hair stick and since directorial debut about a man who gets out of jail and gets stuck in a cycle of homelessness and losing jobs and yeah, it's not an uplifting one, but there's some good vibes there.
• 55:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I wanted to talk more about mother Vera.
• 55:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: which is probably the most under the radar one on this list.
• 55:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is a co-production, you know, it's a, it is a British film, but it's a co-production with Belarus, and that is where it is set in the language that's spoken, so that makes it the second Belarusian film that I've seen this year, after the swansong of Federal Ozeroth, which I talked about in the light and international film festival episode for subscribers.
• 55:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's interesting.
• 55:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Belarus, um, these are probably the only two films that I've seen from the country overall.
• 55:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm very interested to see if there's a burgeoning film industry that will be coming out of there.
• 55:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: But this one, it's shot in black and white and a lyrical documentary style Vera takes us from the hidden religious world of the Belarusian comment to rural farmlands where men and women facing personal and social difficulties live and work.
• 56:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is here that Vera expresses her deep connection with the horses that she looks after as part of her obedience, religious duty.
• 56:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: The film is narrated by Vera as she tells her story of finding faith as a young woman in the impact it has had on her emotionally and spiritually.
• 56:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it is, yeah, the black and white photography is gorgeous with using dramatic natural lighting.
• 56:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: It definitely swept me up, the cinematography swept me into the main characters' robes from the opening shots.
• 56:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is overall very quiet and contemplative and diffuse.
• 56:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: There is a compelling backstory, but it's slow to unfold, and it's about lingering in the small moments.
• 56:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: It does kind of make monastic life look a bit appealing, the whole religious part aside, but yeah, especially the fact that she's caring for horses while she's there.
• 57:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll say this is one, this is definitely a film for the horse girls and I mean that in a non-gendered way.
• 57:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Mother Vera, not easy to find yet, but I recommend keeping an eye out for it if that sounds good to you.
• 57:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: which brings us to the last of the general best feature categories.
• 57:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is film, not in the English language.
• 57:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the exact same list as the Oscar nominees.
• 57:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was just an accident, the secret agent, sentimental value, so rats in the voice of his red job.
• 57:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am predicting the same outcome, which is sentimental value.
• 57:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do think it's a bit less likely that secret agent might jump up and snap that way because again, different voting body.
• 57:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So do think sentimental value will win.
• 57:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: But even though they landed on the same list of nominees, there are different qualifications.
• 58:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: The only real restriction for film, not in the English language, is that it's primarily not in English.
• 58:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't have to be submitted by a single country, and the award goes to creators, not to the particular country.
• 58:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: So looking at it from that perspective, it was just an accident submitted by friends at the Oscars here.
• 58:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a it's a co-production between Iran, France, and Luxembourg.
• 58:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, it's set in Iran.
• 58:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: The languages are Persian and Azerbaijani.
• 58:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this one was also long listed for original screenplay and it did get an Oscar nomination in that category as well.
• 58:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we talk about a lot more in the international episode that's true of all five of these films.
• 58:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'll move through them quickly.
• 58:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say the secret agent.
• 58:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the Brazilian film.
• 58:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's of course in Brazilian Portuguese.
• 59:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's also something less in German in there.
• 59:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it did, here, get an original screenplay nomination as well, sentimental value.
• 59:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I already list all the nominations and long list for that one, but I'll say it is a co-production between Norway, France, Germany, Denmark, Sweden and the United Kingdom, and the languages spoken are Norwegian, English, Swedish, and Danish.
• 59:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Surat, that is a co-production between Spain and France, and they speak Spanish, French, Arabic, and English, and it was also longlisted for casting.
• 59:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: At the Oscars, it was nominated for Sounds, and I can't believe that it was not longlisted for Sound here.
• 59:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: That is like the number one thing that everyone talks about with this film, but anyway, we'll talk about that in the Sound category, episode.
• 59:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the final, the voice of Hind Rajab, a co-production between Tunisia and France, Tunisia, submitted it for the Oscars, the language is Arabic, it is set in, actually it's it's set in Palestine or is it set in Israel and they are calling to Palestine.
• 1:00:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it doesn't matter.
• 1:00:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: That is one of the toughest watches, definitely the toughest watch in the fiction side, of all of the Oscar nominees, but definitely a worthwhile one.
• 1:00:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we talk about that a lot more in the international episode.
• 1:00:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was also longlisted for the director, Calthar Ben Hania, here as well, although it's not my favorite film of hers.
• 1:00:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: My favorite film of hers is
• 1:00:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: the rest of the long list for the Vaptas for film not in the English language is there's an Italian film called La Grazia about a the final days of the presidency of a fictional Italian president where he's contemplating whether or not to sign a bill about
• 1:01:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: From Taiwan, there's left-handed girl.
• 1:01:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll come back to this from South Korea.
• 1:01:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's no other choice.
• 1:01:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll come back to this from France, there's New Velvet.
• 1:01:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to come back to this.
• 1:01:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did talk about it a little bit in the spirit's episode, but it's about Richard Link later film about the creation of the classic 1960 film, Breathless.
• 1:01:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the final one here is Japan is rental family from Japan and we'll come back to that.
• 1:01:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: But let's jump into rental family from this is it's is largely in Japanese, but it's starring Brendan Fraser who is an American actor in Tokyo struggling to find purpose until he lands
• 1:01:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: working for Japanese, quote-unquote rental family agency, playing stand-in roles for strangers.
• 1:01:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: As he immerses himself in his clients' worlds, he begins to form genuine bonds that blur the lines between performance and reality.
• 1:02:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I found this one warm and funny, and yeah, it is kind of emotionally manipulative in some ways, but in a very enjoyable way.
• 1:02:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I definitely, I can recommend that one to almost every anyone and if you listen to our Oscars episode David also highly recommends this one as well, it was also longlisted for director, but it did not get the nomination there either.
• 1:02:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you want to watch it, you can watch it on Hulu and the US or video on demand elsewhere.
• 1:02:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I love the other two films even more.
• 1:02:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's jump back to left-handed girl from Taiwan.
• 1:02:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is about a mother and her two daughters who moved to Taipei to open a noodle shop at a vibrant night market.
• 1:02:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: But family secrets and tradition test their fresh start.
• 1:02:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is one from longtime Sean Baker collaborator.
• 1:03:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he also collaborated on this as well.
• 1:03:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I found it hilarious, heart-wrenching, gratifying.
• 1:03:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: The story does meander, but in a way that, like, satisfyingly pulls all of the pieces of the journey that it went on back together into a, like, messy, but not messy and writing, but messy in the realism of life and love and familial relationships and the mistakes we made and how we forge on through
• 1:03:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's definitely the titular left-handed girl.
• 1:03:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be one of the best child performances I have ever seen.
• 1:03:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I highly recommend left-handed girl.
• 1:03:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can watch it on Netflix.
• 1:03:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the other one I have to recommend, which is finally on video on demand now, is no other choice.
• 1:03:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is, you might have subscribers.
• 1:03:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll hear me on our second breakfast episode, calling it a snub above the rest,
• 1:04:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: The summary, this is one from South Korea from Park Chan-Wook, and the summary is, would you kill for a job after being laid off and humiliated by a ruthless job market of veteran paper mill manager dissents and devilance in a desperate bid to reclaim his dignity?
• 1:04:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the star is the Libion Hun who people might know as the front man in Squid Game.
• 1:04:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he should have been nominated for an Oscar for this one, but I've talked about that elsewhere.
• 1:04:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I also think it should have gotten cinematography and editing nominations here and at the Oscars, but anyway, I don't get to decide these things.
• 1:04:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is just one, as it sounds, it's about the crazy things we do for capitalism.
• 1:04:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's got a great soundtrack.
• 1:04:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's very fun.
• 1:04:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is, you know, it's dark.
• 1:04:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Keep that in mind.
• 1:04:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: It goes dark places, but definitely in a comedic way.
• 1:05:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I love, I love the key working, the conversation, no other choice into conversations very naturally throughout.
• 1:05:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: It comes up a lot.
• 1:05:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just reinforcing the themes.
• 1:05:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is adapted from a book and from which there's already a French film adapted called The Axe.
• 1:05:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have our little Hashay.
• 1:05:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've not gotten to see that yet.
• 1:05:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've not carved out the time for it yet, but I hope to
• 1:05:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: look on video on demand.
• 1:05:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so that completes the main general feature categories.
• 1:05:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's take a quick break here when we come back.
• 1:05:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about the acting and casting categories.
• 1:05:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: See you in a second.
• 1:05:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's jump right into best actor and a leading role.
• 1:06:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, again, the acting and directing categories get six nominations each.
• 1:06:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, the six nominees for best lead actor are Robert Armile for Iswer, where he plays John Davidson.
• 1:06:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Timothy Shalamev playing Marty Mouser and Marty Supreme, Leonardo DiCaprio for playing Bob Ferguson and one battle after another, Ethan Hawke for playing Lorenz Hart and Blue Moon, Michael B. Jordan for playing both Elijah Smokemore and Elias Stackmore in Sinners, and Jesse Plemins for playing Teddy Gats in Bagania.
• 1:06:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, obviously, we've already talked about sinners, one battle, Marty Supreme, and I swear.
• 1:06:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, that leaves two new films, but these are also almost exactly the same nominees as the Oscars,
• 1:07:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, Jesse Plemins is one whom a lot of people were really hoping to see get the nomination at the Oscars, so it did, there was kind of a feeling that it was between him and Wagner Moira.
• 1:07:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Robert, our mile, of course, not eligible for the Oscars because that film has not been released in the US yet, so he would be eligible next year, actually, not that I think that that's going to happen.
• 1:07:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it could you never know.
• 1:07:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, just to talk about the two films, we haven't really talked about here yet.
• 1:07:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have Ethan Hawke for Blue Moon, also nominated for an Oscar.
• 1:07:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And there are a lot of Ethan Hawke truthers out there who think that he will genuinely win the Oscar.
• 1:07:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see about that.
• 1:07:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's much less likely here.
• 1:07:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: We will, of course, talk about this film more in the Oscar's acting episode, but since probably a lot of you aren't familiar with it, I'll say.
• 1:07:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is another Richard Link later film, he did put out two films this year, also Nouvelle Vogue.
• 1:08:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this one is about on the evening of March 31st, 1943, legendary lyricist, Lorenz Hart's confronts his shattered self-confidence in Sardis Bar as his former collaborator, Richard Rogers.
• 1:08:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: celebrates the opening night of his groundbreaking hit musical Oklahoma.
• 1:08:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this is basically they used to be Rogers and Hart who were a duo and then I knew that at some point it became Rogers and Hammerstein and I knew that Hart passed away which they do reference or even kind of show in this film.
• 1:08:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know where or why Rodgers and Hart stopped working together in this film addresses that.
• 1:08:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is very much, it feels a lot like a play, it's mostly in one setting and sardies, just moving between a few rooms with just a handful of characters.
• 1:08:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's a pleasant watch and Ethan Hawke does some really interesting work of very out of character for himself.
• 1:09:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that there are just a lot of people who just want to see him get the recognition he deserves after such a long career in the industry.
• 1:09:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But as I said, I think that's more likely to happen at the Oscars in here, not that I find not that I think it's going to happen there at Earth.
• 1:09:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: But
• 1:09:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say blue moon was longlisted in three categories, so in addition to best actor also longlisted for original screenplay and supporting actor for Andrew Scott who plays Richard Rogers.
• 1:09:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: but it was only nominated for Best Actor here.
• 1:09:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: It does also feature Margaret Kwally and Bob canavale who are great conversation partners for Ethan Hawke as well.
• 1:09:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, more so than Richard Rogers, which is really a supporting role in this case.
• 1:09:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to see this one for yourself, it's on Netflix or video on demand.
• 1:09:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then that brings us to Jesse Plemins for Bagonia, which, as I said, is the one that people really hoped to see at the Oscars, so at least a nomination here.
• 1:10:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bagonia is from one of my favorites, you're a Goat's Lentimos, the director.
• 1:10:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's about two conspiracy obsessed young men who kidnapped the high-powered CEO of a major company, play by Emma Stone, convinced that she is an alien
• 1:10:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this one begone you've received five nominations, so best actor, director, adapted screenplay, and lead actress for Emma Stone and score.
• 1:10:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was long-listed 12 times, so it was long-listed for but did not receive nominations in best films, cinematography, production design, costume design, makeup and hair, editing, and sound.
• 1:10:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So definitely a lot of support for it here, I will mention, you know, with the European Halo, you're going to go slant the most is definitely claimed by Europeans as a European director, even though I feel like this film is very American, even though it's a remake of a Korean film.
• 1:11:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the gunia was did also get a number of nominations at the European Film Awards, so.
• 1:11:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've talked about this in lots of other places and I will talk about it some more, but yeah, I do quite like Bagoña and if you want something and very interesting dark character study with some weird twists, then definitely check it out.
• 1:11:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's on peacock in the US or video on demand elsewhere.
• 1:11:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the rest of the long list for Best Actor was
• 1:11:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: for the, he was another one that people thought might, and wind up on the Oscar list, Harry Melling for Pillian and Killian Murphy for Steve.
• 1:11:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, I'll pretty much wear the nominations.
• 1:11:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love Russell Crow, maybe I wouldn't have nominated him.
• 1:12:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just, uh, the others are, um, a step up ahead.
• 1:12:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, let's swap over to best actress in a leading role where the nominees are Jesse Buckley for playing Agnes Shakespeare in Hamlet.
• 1:12:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Rose Burn for playing Linda and if I had legs I'd kick you.
• 1:12:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Kate Hudson as Claire Sardina in Song Song Blue.
• 1:12:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jason Finity as Willa Ferguson in one battle after another.
• 1:12:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Renata Rainsva as Norberg and Sentimental value and Emma Stone as Michelle Fuller in
• 1:12:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: and this is again exactly the same list as the Oscars, but plus chase infinity.
• 1:12:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll talk all about these over on when we get to the Oscars, but I will shout out for since we haven't talked about if I had legs, I'd kick you.
• 1:12:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I will shout out that Rose Burn did just win the spirit award for this, although most the rest of the people in this category
• 1:13:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: She did also though, when the comedy category Golden Globe before that, we'll talk about more of her wins in the Oscars acting episode, but it's generally considered like, if Jesse Buckley, if she for some reason doesn't get the Oscar, then Rose Burn would be next in line.
• 1:13:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the same for the BAFTAs.
• 1:13:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Jesse Buckley is even more likely to get the BAFTA here because, you know,
• 1:13:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if not her, I would say, would be Rose Burn.
• 1:13:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is the only nomination that this film received.
• 1:13:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's about a woman whose life is crashing down around her, and as she attempts to navigate her child's mysterious illness, her absence has been a missing person, and an increasingly hostile relationship with her therapist who's played by Conan O'Brien.
• 1:13:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: in a very uncharacteristically serious role, also shout out Asapuraki who is a guy who works at the hotel whom she befriends, she's staying in the hotel because her house is falling apart.
• 1:14:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is a very stressful movie, but a surreal one is well and Rose Burn does give a knockout performance.
• 1:14:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can watch it on HBO or video on demand.
• 1:14:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the other one we haven't talked about yet in this episode is song sung blue, the soul nomination for Kate Hudson's acting.
• 1:14:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: This was the surprise nomination at the Oscars in this category, although if you had your ear to the ground, it wasn't a complete surprise people, you know, Kate Hudson's been campaigning and people have been very supportive of that.
• 1:14:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's based on song song blues based on a true story about two down on their luck musicians, so her and Hugh Jackman, who form a joyous Neil Diamond tribute band, proving it's never too late to find love and follow your dreams.
• 1:14:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'll say the movie takes a number of dark turns that you wouldn't necessarily guess from that description or the trailer.
• 1:15:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I was glad to know going in that that was the case.
• 1:15:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I won't say what they are of course.
• 1:15:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I will say she has great chemistry with Hugh Jackman and although the reception of the film itself has been kind of so, so I'll say it's a worthy nomination because it is a surprisingly demanding role.
• 1:15:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: She sings, she has to have a bubbly personality but then she also goes through periods of trauma and depression.
• 1:15:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of acting in there.
• 1:15:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the rest of the long list is only four others for these, since there's six nominees.
• 1:15:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cynthia Arrivo for Wicked for Good will talk about that film in another category.
• 1:15:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jennifer Lawrence for Die My Love on which we'll also talk about another category.
• 1:15:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Andrea Riceboro for Dragonfly.
• 1:15:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the third film that I didn't get to see nothing to say about it.
• 1:15:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: and Tessa Thompson for Heta.
• 1:16:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk about Heta real quick for seconds.
• 1:16:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the new Nia de Costa movie adaptation of the Ibsimpley about a woman who feels bored and trapped and does horrible things because of it.
• 1:16:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: The official description is, a little chaos is good for the gathering.
• 1:16:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hedogabler finds herself torn between the lingering ache of a past love and the quiet suffocation of our present life, over the course of one charged night, long repressed desires and hidden tensions erupt, pulling her and everyone around her into a spiral of manipulation, passion, and betrayal.
• 1:16:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so you can watch this one on Prime and I'll leave it here because Lisa and I do talk a bit more about this one in the production design episode.
• 1:16:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: This definitely deserved costume attention.
• 1:16:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that brings us to best actress and a supporting role, and nominees are Adessa Azion for Playing Rachel Mizir in Marty Supreme, Inge Ibsatolilius for playing Agnes Board Peterson in Sentimental Value, Wun Mi Masaku for playing Annie in Centers,
• 1:17:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tiana Taylor, for playing perfidia, Beverly Hills, in one battle after another, and Emily Watson, for playing Mary Shakespeare and Hamlet.
• 1:17:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, this is here, also, like the Oscars, one of the more interesting categories.
• 1:17:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: There are a few differences with the Oscars lineup for one no elf-fanting nomination.
• 1:17:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: She wasn't even longlisted for this one and no Amy Madigan,
• 1:17:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but we do get instead three others because again six nominees.
• 1:17:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Odessa Zion is one whom I would have loved to have seen nominated at the Oscar's glad to see her nominated here for Marty Supreme.
• 1:18:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: She really kind of steals the movie from Timothy Shalame a bit of times.
• 1:18:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, carry Mulligan, love her, love the ballad of Wallace Island, happy to see her, and Emily Watson.
• 1:18:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now I just named dropped her for being in the Killian Murphy movie Steve, but no, this is for HamNet where she plays Jesse Buckley's mother-in-law, William Shakespeare's mother.
• 1:18:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: As far as who is going to win, it could be tanotellers kind of considered the expected winner at the Oscars, at least.
• 1:18:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would say it's possible for the more British or European options to take precedence here, specifically
• 1:18:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Carrie Mulligan, but I would say more likely, this might be in a Kickstarter lilyus's time to shine.
• 1:18:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's getting a lot of love for this portrayal, and this might be the category where sentimental value takes home a statue.
• 1:19:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Perhaps the next one, we'll get to that in a second.
• 1:19:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: The rest of the long list was Brenda Blethin for Dragonfly.
• 1:19:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, again, haven't seen that one, but the cast seems great.
• 1:19:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ariana Grande for wicked for good, and we'll come back to that.
• 1:19:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Amy Madigan for weapons.
• 1:19:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mr.
• 1:19:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here, we'll talk about it in the Oscar's episode for acting and Gwyneth Paltrow for Marty Supreme was not on the Oscar's radar per se, but, um, yeah, a worthy nomination fund role good to see her back acting again.
• 1:19:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's move on to best actor in a supporting role.
• 1:19:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: The six nominees are.
• 1:19:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Benicio del Toro for playing Sensi Sergio St. Carlos in one battle after another.
• 1:19:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jacob O'Lordie for playing the creature in Frankenstein.
• 1:19:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Paul Mescal for playing William Shakespeare in Hamlet.
• 1:19:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Peter Mullen for playing Tommy Trotter and I swear, Sean Penn for playing Colonel Stephen J. Lockjaw and Wimbabwe after another, and Stella and Skars Guard for playing Gustav Borg in sentimental value.
• 1:20:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Differences from the Oscar nominations is no Delroy Lindo here, though he was on the long list.
• 1:20:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Paul Mascald did get in, who he was considered one of the biggest Oscar snubs overall, the fact that he wasn't nominated.
• 1:20:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the other addition is Peter Mullin from I swear, which again is not eligible this year in the US.
• 1:20:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: but does show general support for this film.
• 1:20:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely a worthy nomination.
• 1:20:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: He plays a very likable character who definitely has a supporting role and isn't there's no category fraud here.
• 1:20:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that he will win though.
• 1:20:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do think I've been predicting Stellan Skarsguard for the Oscar.
• 1:20:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a good chance that he could take this one home too, but I also think that this is a category that HamNet could pick up a statue for Paul Medsko.
• 1:21:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: He does play a really kind of charmingly doofy William Shakespeare who, yeah, matured and becomes a more worldly man and playwrights.
• 1:21:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you see that from a far, so he really is a supporting role in this as well.
• 1:21:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: It really is about his wife in this story.
• 1:21:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I won't though shut out a chance for Jacob O'Leardy for playing the creature in Frankenstein.
• 1:21:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a very worthy one.
• 1:21:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: It may be the best portrayal of the creature I've seen.
• 1:21:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know Jean said that in our Frankenstein episode, which I'll find linked in the show notes.
• 1:21:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Frankenstein, since we haven't talked about it yet, it did get eight nominations at the BAFTAs, so for best supporting actor, of course, but also cinematography, production design, costumes, makeup and hair, score, VFX, and sound.
• 1:21:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was long listed for four additional categories, best film, adapted screenplay, casting, and editing.
• 1:22:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I won't go on more about this because in addition to the entire deep dive episode we already did, there's going to be lots of Oscar Talk because it got lots of nominations there as well.
• 1:22:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: The rest of the long list was Delroy Lindo for sinners, Adam Sandler for Jay Kelly, which is a film that really fizzled and died in awards season.
• 1:22:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the only time place it was long listed.
• 1:22:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Andrew Scott for Blue Moon.
• 1:22:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: again for playing Rogers.
• 1:22:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Alexander Skarsgard for Pilion is the one I would really like to have seen on that list.
• 1:22:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that he did really, it's another one where he had to do a lot with its eyes, you know, like in English, Dr. Lillius in the supporting actress part where he had to
• 1:22:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Communicate a lot of like an entire backstory that a character will never say with his mouth with his eyes and his small little action.
• 1:23:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think he would have been aware of the nominee, but I'll ask, and then best casting where the nominees here are I swear, casting by Lauren Evans, Marty Supreme by Jennifer Vanditi.
• 1:23:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: One battle after another with Cassandra, Kulukundas, Sentimental value from Invo Colts at Haga and Avikofman and sinners from Francine, Mayzee.
• 1:23:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Compared to the Oscars, again quite similar, the difference is no secret agent, surprisingly no ham net, although it is on the long list, and instead there is I swear, which of course, the path is only one, not yet available elsewhere, and sentimental value.
• 1:23:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this one is a tough call.
• 1:23:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I might be tempted to give it to the two that made it onto the list that aren't on the Oscar list.
• 1:24:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I swear, or sentimental value.
• 1:24:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess if you press me, I'll go with sentimental value, but...
• 1:24:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I swear the cool thing about that is not just the Robert Armeo casting where he did such a phenomenal job, but I would say it's the casting of a bunch of real people with Tourette's who pop up as the movie goes on.
• 1:24:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that does give it the edge.
• 1:24:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Although for sentimental value, could it be a consolation prize?
• 1:24:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: If the acting prizes don't go through, if people vote for this instead, we'll see.
• 1:24:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: The rest of the long list for casting is Frankenstein Hamnett, a house of dynamite.
• 1:24:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll come back and talk about that later.
• 1:24:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Pilion and Surat.
• 1:24:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Spanish film nominated for non-English language film also.
• 1:24:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, this is another good place to pause, let's take a quick break and when we come back we're going to talk about the directing and writing categories.
• 1:25:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back.
• 1:25:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's jump into best director.
• 1:25:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is, again, one of the categories with six nominees, and so those six nominees are Paul Thomas Anderson for one battle after another.
• 1:25:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ryan Kougler for sinners.
• 1:25:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yardos Lentimos for Bogonia, Josh Saffty for Marty Supreme,
• 1:25:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jochem Trier for sentimental value and Chloe Zhao for having it.
• 1:25:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the same list as the Oscars with the addition of Yardegos Lentimos for Bagoña.
• 1:25:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's a good indication that that film was probably on the cusp at the Oscars 2 of getting nominated in this category.
• 1:25:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Although the baff to could go to someone quite different than at the Oscars now.
• 1:26:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Oscars, the front
• 1:26:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I could see them going a bit more bread or European here with maybe Chloe Jowl, the director of Hamlet, or Joachim Trier for sentimental value.
• 1:26:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: If it doesn't go to Paul Thomas Anderson, I wouldn't be surprised to see one of those to take it instead.
• 1:26:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: The rest of the long list is, Lin Ramsey for Dye My Love, Katherine Bigelow for a house of dynamite, Hikari for rental family and Calthor Benhania for the voice of Hindraja.
• 1:26:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's dip over to the writing side with best original screenplay.
• 1:26:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here, back to five nominees, the nominees are Ronald Braunstein and Josh Saffty for Marty Supreme, Ryan Kugler for Centers, Clebur Mondocia Philo for the Secret Agent, Kirk Jones for I-Swear, Escalvox and Joaquim Tree for sentimental value.
• 1:27:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And there are two differences with the Oscars list here.
• 1:27:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's no, it was just an accident, nor blue moon.
• 1:27:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And instead, we get the secret agent and I swear, not surprised to see I swear here, the secret agent, it's interesting, no Wagner Mora, but yes, to this nomination for Best Original Screenplay, whereas I personally, I'll say, say, a doro Brazil.
• 1:27:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't love this movie.
• 1:27:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: So my favorite part of the movie is Wagner Moore.
• 1:27:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: My least favorite part of the movie is the screenplay because I just find it kind of a bit all over the place.
• 1:27:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And over-explaining in places where it shouldn't and under-explaining in places where, you know, I want more.
• 1:27:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it discreetly, you're just in work for me.
• 1:27:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I would have much rather of scene.
• 1:27:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was just an accident here.
• 1:27:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Iranian French film.
• 1:28:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: that has an ensemble cast of distinct characters and quite the memorable ending.
• 1:28:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: As for who will win?
• 1:28:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, again, I wonder if I swear and sentimental value have more of a chance in the BAFTAs.
• 1:28:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Could see, otherwise, yeah, we all expected to be sinners that sinners would take this award.
• 1:28:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know, I just have a feeling that sinners will underperform BAFTA.
• 1:28:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see, let's see.
• 1:28:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: The rest of the long list for our best original screenplay was Blue Moon, a house of dynamite, is this thing on, it was just an accident and weapons.
• 1:28:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And weapons is also on the long list of the BAFTAs for best supporting actress for Amy Madigan, unfortunately, was not nominated and for editing.
• 1:28:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And weapons is one of my top five films of the year.
• 1:28:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, prestige, horror.
• 1:28:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely my favorite genre, but we did a whole deep dive episode into why I think the writing here is brilliant, so you'll find that linked in the shoutouts.
• 1:29:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I do want to shout out to another film that we haven't mentioned yet in this category and on the long list, which is this thing on the latest Bradley Cooper directed film, and he also played a supporting role in it.
• 1:29:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: and the other primary characters in and are played by Willarnet, Laura Durne, and Andre Day, and the plot T's is.
• 1:29:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: As their marriage quietly unravels, Alex faces Middle-Age, and an impending divorce seeking new purpose in the New York comedy scene.
• 1:29:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: While Tess confronts the sacrifices she made for their family, forcing them to navigate co-parenting,
• 1:29:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is available in the US at least on video on demand.
• 1:29:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I actually really love this film.
• 1:29:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was not a huge fan of Bradley Cooper as the last directing outing for my stroke.
• 1:29:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I found that this one was more raw and real and definitely for the better.
• 1:29:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: You could tell he wasn't going for the prestige this time.
• 1:30:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was just telling an emotional story and I think it made the better film unfortunately it didn't pay off.
• 1:30:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: in terms of the awards prestige.
• 1:30:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I hope he's happy with just having a film that people seem to really like.
• 1:30:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a huge Lord Dern fan, but I still love and I know that's like inexplicable, I-
• 1:30:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know that I'm a weirdo for that, whatever it is, I don't know, she doesn't do it for me, but I still love the rest of this film so much that I gave it four stars out of five.
• 1:30:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do think under day kind of stole the show at times, so though I really loved Will Arnett and Bradley Cooper in this as well.
• 1:30:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, I definitely recommend is this thing on, especially if you're a fan of stand-up, they keep telling him he's terrible at stand-up, but I enjoy it, I enjoy the show, I enjoy all the places that this goes, and I used to, when I lived in New York, I used to go to Comedy Seller all the times, so I was really, I don't want to see that represented on-screen from a backstage perspective, even.
• 1:31:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's swap over to Best Adapted Screenplay.
• 1:31:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the five nominees here are Paul Thomas Anderson for one battle after another.
• 1:31:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tom Baston and Tim Keeve for the Ballad of Wallace Island.
• 1:31:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Harry Lighten for Pilion.
• 1:31:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Will Tracy for Bagania and Chloe Shaw and Maggie Oferrell for Hamnett and the difference with the Oscars list is there's no train dreams or nor Frankenstein here and instead we get the ballad of Wallace Island and Pillian which I think are
• 1:31:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually quite happy with both of those additions, although I really like trained dreams and I do think that Frankenstein is a great adaptation.
• 1:31:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Ballet of all of Silent and Pilion are just two exceptionally written films.
• 1:31:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: As far as who will win, um, one battle after another might be seen as frontrunner just because of the sheer number of, um, of nominations, although it is my least favorite thing about that film, the writing and screenplay.
• 1:32:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think at the Oscars even, HamNet could take adapted screenplay, and I think that here, at the baptas, it's even more likely to happen.
• 1:32:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: although if it does happen, maybe it has a backlash and one battle gets it because of that or vice versa.
• 1:32:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
• 1:32:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: As far as the rest of the long list, the rest of the long list was 28 years later.
• 1:32:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I want that on the list.
• 1:32:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want that winning, but okay, at least it's on the long list.
• 1:32:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Frankenstein, Nuremberg, Train Dreams, Wakeup Deadman, a Knives Out Mystery, which we have not spoken about yet, so I'll just say that's the Ryan Johnson movie.
• 1:32:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the third Knives Out movie, and my second favorite in the franchise.
• 1:32:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say that glass onion.
• 1:32:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't really like that one so much, so that's very distant, third, and I did quite like this one.
• 1:32:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can watch it yourself on Netflix.
• 1:32:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: The plot of this one is when young priest Judd Duplen to see is sent to assist charismatic firebrand Montignore Jefferson Wix.
• 1:33:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's clear that all is not well in the fuse.
• 1:33:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: After a sudden and seemingly impossible murder rocks the town.
• 1:33:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: The lack of an obvious suspect prompts local police chief Geraldine Scott to join forces with renowned detective Ben Wall Blanc to unravel
• 1:33:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was a cool setting in the ecclesiastical world and I thought they did a good job with it.
• 1:33:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I had fun.
• 1:33:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I found it.
• 1:33:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I found the characters intriguing.
• 1:33:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: The mystery was compelling.
• 1:33:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And fun.
• 1:33:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I was a fun watch with my family.
• 1:33:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So wake up dead man, of course, on Netflix.
• 1:33:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now that we're zooming along, let's go right on into best original score, where the five nominees are jerks and fendricks for Bagania.
• 1:33:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll exalant for Dittlab for Frankenstein, Max Richter for Hamlet.
• 1:34:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Johnny Greenwood for one battle after another, and Ludwig Goronson for sinners, um, and I think Ludwig Goronson for sinners has this in the bag.
• 1:34:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: It could wind up being sinners only wind tonight.
• 1:34:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: maybe they're by sparing that delicious Oscar voting reaction.
• 1:34:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would say it's the at least the award that is most locked for sinners, but if anyone challenge them, it would again be haminate, especially here at the baff does, it does have a very memorable riff hook, if you will.
• 1:34:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to say probably sinners, if not, maybe haminate.
• 1:34:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: The lineup of nominees is exactly the same as the Oscar list, so I will be speaking about this category in depth with Mark at the start of March.
• 1:34:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the rest of the long list for the BAFTAs is 28 years later, again, would have wanted that in there, would have wanted that winning the young father score.
• 1:35:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure it wouldn't have won even if it had been nominated, but...
• 1:35:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
• 1:35:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know what's really good, sinners obviously definitely want to see that win in this case.
• 1:35:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so the rest of the list, 28 years later, the ballot of Wallace Island, Marty Supreme, which interestingly, the soundtrack is 80s and the 50s and then the score kind of fits around it.
• 1:35:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think the soundtrack is more memorable than the score there, per se.
• 1:35:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then Nuremberg and Wicked for Good.
• 1:35:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think on the long list, the two standouts are 28 years later, and the folksy ballot of Wallace Island.
• 1:35:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's talk about the production design awards starting with the best production design where the five nominees are Tamara Deverhol in Shane Vio for Frankenstein, Viona Crombie in Alice Felton for Hamnett, Jack Fisk and Adam Wallace for Marty Supreme, Florentia Martin and Anthony Carlino for one battle after another and Hannah Beechler and Monique Champagne for sinners.
• 1:36:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, exact same line up as the Oscars again, and I discussed this in-depth with Lisa and that's going to be the next episode in this series, so I won't linger too long here either.
• 1:36:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Winners for best production design, it's, you know, we say in the Oscars episode it's Frankenstein's to lose.
• 1:36:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: That could well translate here, I would say if anyone else takes it, it would be, again, hamnets, which just really,
• 1:36:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: In Sconces, you, in Elizabethan, England, really, some remarkable production design, even if a lot of it is forest.
• 1:36:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: They do forest well.
• 1:36:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, as for the rest of the long list, the other potential nominees that didn't make it were...
• 1:36:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ballet of a small player, Bagonia, the fantastic for first steps, Mickey 17 and Wicked for Good.
• 1:37:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, fantastic for first steps, of course, MCUs, so we did cover that in depth.
• 1:37:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll put that link in the show notes as well.
• 1:37:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the production designer there was Kazura Farahani, who we love from the Loki television series.
• 1:37:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's nice that at least somewhere this is getting recognized, it does feel like there was in some ways a real effort to shut out the superhero films from these categories this year.
• 1:37:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully with better embraced films coming out like Superman, which we will mention in a little bit.
• 1:37:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully we'll get past this quote unquote superhero fatigue that's going on.
• 1:37:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: But perhaps my favorite of the non-nominated films in this long list was Mickey 17.
• 1:37:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the Bongjun Ho film, one of my favorite directors in the world.
• 1:37:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I've said before, Robert Pattinson had one of the best double performances in an oddly exceptional year for double performances in Mickey 17.
• 1:38:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: But also the rest of the cast is incredible with Naomi Acky, Steven Yoon, Mark Ruffalo, Tony Collette, and of course the Creepers.
• 1:38:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say this was also longlisted for VFX for these very realistic alien creatures.
• 1:38:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they just did a really good job of setting this on this alien Arctic world and selling that.
• 1:38:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, the fact most of it takes place on a spaceship and yeah, just the sort of industrial futuristic aspect of it is they just did a fantastic job there.
• 1:38:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you're not familiar with the movie, the premise is he's dying to save mankind.
• 1:38:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Unlikely hero, Mickey Barnes finds himself in the extraordinary circumstance of working for an employer who demands the ultimate commitment to the job to die for a living.
• 1:38:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: So basically, he is a test subject who gets cloned so that they can test drugs on him or put him in dangerous places, and when he dies,
• 1:39:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: They have his memory backed up and they just print out a new Mickey.
• 1:39:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why Mickey 17 is the 17th clone.
• 1:39:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And who maybe doesn't die as he's supposed to, which causes some complications.
• 1:39:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do think the film could have been 20 minutes shorter but I still gave it a high score because there's so much paythos and laughs and sociological commentary and of course that excellent VFX and an absolute 200% commitment from Robert Pattinson.
• 1:39:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think this movie was really underrated and I suppose it just, it opened to early in the year.
• 1:39:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it was thus immediately written off because it was seen as a lack of confidence.
• 1:39:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: The fact that they pushed this film from award season last year to the beginning of this year to the sort of no man's land of January.
• 1:40:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, if you want to see this film and the excellent production design NVFX for yourself, you can find it on HBO Max, which brings us to the next production design award best costume design, for which the five nominees are Kate Hawley for Frankenstein.
• 1:40:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Malgozia Tarzankska for Hamnit, Miyako Belizi for Maru Supreme, Ruth E. Carter for sinners and Paul Tazahuel for Wicked for Good and the only difference between this and the Oscar list is that the Oscar's nominated Avatar Fire and Ash in this category and here instead we have Wicked for Good and
• 1:40:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: So honestly, I think this is the better list.
• 1:40:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is things as they should be.
• 1:40:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: We could for good.
• 1:40:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't really talked about that yet.
• 1:40:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've named it a couple of times.
• 1:40:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: It did only end up getting two nominations.
• 1:40:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: This one and for makeup and hair.
• 1:40:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's two more than a got at the Oscars at least.
• 1:41:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it was long listed in eight categories.
• 1:41:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: The others being lead actress for Cynthia Rivo, supporting actress for Ariana Grande, score, production design, VFX, and sound.
• 1:41:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the plot teaser is, you will be changed, as an angry mob rises against the wicked witch, Glinda, and Elphaba will need to come together one final time, with their singular friendship now the full crew of their futures.
• 1:41:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: They will need to truly see each other with honesty and empathy, if they are to change themselves and all of us.
• 1:41:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: For Good.
• 1:41:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, this is famously probably the most egregiously snobbed film at the Oscars.
• 1:41:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: It seems like people may be just aren't vibing with the darker tone of this sequel.
• 1:41:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: For me, as I said in our episode breaking it down, I think I might even like it more than the first and Marilyn agreed with me.
• 1:41:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Nicole felt maybe the other way, but you can hear us talk about it and our deep dive with full musical and book comparisons, which is linked in the show notes.
• 1:42:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do just have to wonder if this is part of maybe a bigger trend we see lately where sequels are being punished and being nominated less.
• 1:42:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: We saw that also with Doom last year, and we've seen a few other places, so we'll be keeping an eye on that and hoping it doesn't affect Doom Part 3, which hopefully gets it's rightful Doom.
• 1:42:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, if you want to see wicked for good, you can find that on video on demand.
• 1:42:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the rest of the long list for production design, those that were not nominated were Bugonia, Downton Abbey the Grand Finale, Newvel Vogue, Nuremberg, and one battle after another.
• 1:42:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: So of these 10, I do think the right five got in, although I would have liked to have seen Heta on this list as well.
• 1:42:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: which brings us to the closely related category best makeup and hair with the five nominees are Jordan Semmel Cleone Fury, Mike Hill, and Megan Manney for Frankenstein, Nicole Stafford for Hamnit, Kyra Paddenchenko, K. Georgia, and Mike Fontaine for Marty's Supreme,
• 1:43:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sean Richards, Shunika Terry, Ken Diaz, and Mike Fontaine for sinners.
• 1:43:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Francis Hanin, Laura Blount, Mark Kulea, and Sarah Nuth for Wicked for Good.
• 1:43:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this, the makeup and hair we talked about is perhaps the most interesting batch of nominees at the Oscars.
• 1:43:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here, they went a bit more expected.
• 1:43:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there's no cocoa here, boo.
• 1:43:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's no the ugly step sister here, boo.
• 1:43:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: know the smashing machine here good and instead we have Marty Supreme wicked for good and haminate which haminate I guess I'm the most surprised about that it is a period piece so though I don't know that the makeup and the hair is the most standout part but maybe a more of a signal on hand haminate overperforming that it has a lot of support at the baffdas
• 1:44:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: If I were making this list, I would have kept the Oscar list taken out the smashing machine and put it in wicked for good instead.
• 1:44:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: but they don't let me make the list.
• 1:44:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
• 1:44:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, the rest, speaking of list, the rest of the long list, the films that didn't get nominated and make up in here, but could have been where Bagonia, Downton Abbey, the Grand Finale, Nuremberg, one battle after another, and the smashing machine.
• 1:44:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just think it's an absolute travesty.
• 1:44:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: The 28 years later isn't even on the long list for this one, that has definitely some of the most impressive makeup of the year.
• 1:44:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, zombies, man.
• 1:44:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I guess I should shout out from the long list, uh, Downton Abbey the Grand Finale because I haven't done so yet.
• 1:44:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is obviously, it's one for the fans of Downton Abbey.
• 1:44:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am a fan of Downton Abbey.
• 1:45:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it is a film for me, um, of the three films since they wrapped up the show.
• 1:45:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's not my favorite.
• 1:45:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'd say the second one is my favorite, but,
• 1:45:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this is my second favorite.
• 1:45:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, obviously, it's a period piece.
• 1:45:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're now coming up on 1930, and the costumes are as ever immaculate as is the makeup in here.
• 1:45:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: But okay, here is a good place to take another pause before we come back and get into the tech awards and then the special features.
• 1:45:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: See you in a second.
• 1:45:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, let's talk a best cinematography.
• 1:45:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here the five nominees are Dan Lauston for Frankenstein, Darius Congee for Marty Supreme, Michael Bowman for one battle after another, Autumn-Durled Archipel for Seniors and Adolfo Veloso for Train Dreams.
• 1:46:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't talked about train dreams yet, it is obviously one of the big Oscar contenders this year, so we're talking about a lot of other categories, but just to mention that it was longlisted three times.
• 1:46:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: It did not do as well, in fact, denominations.
• 1:46:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously it was nominated here in cinematography and beyond that, it was longlisted in two other categories.
• 1:46:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: for which it did not receive nominations, and those two categories are lead actor for Joel Edgerton and Adapted Screenplay.
• 1:46:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it is definitely underperforming here, maybe it wins this as the consolation prize.
• 1:46:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do think it's more likely between the two juggernauts here, sinners, and one by left or another.
• 1:46:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would say, autumn-dirled, archipel is the front runner for
• 1:46:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: for sinners in at the Oscars.
• 1:46:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here, I wouldn't be surprised if they swirved and gave it to one battle instead.
• 1:47:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is the exact same lineup of nominees as the Oscars, but the rest of the long list for the BAFTAs is ballot of a small player again, Bogonia with with that beautiful
• 1:47:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: and speaking of F1, that is one of the five best special visual effects nominees, which are Avatar, Fire, and Ash, F1, Frankenstein, how to train your dragon and the lost bus.
• 1:47:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And for this, the difference with the Oscars here, there's no Jurassic Park, and they have how to train your dragon instead.
• 1:47:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And there's no sinners, and instead Frankenstein.
• 1:47:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I support the first substitution.
• 1:47:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm less keen on the second substitution, as much as I love Frankenstein, I think sinners should be here instead.
• 1:47:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: They did a lot of great practical effects for Frankenstein, as we've talked about, especially the Frankenstein breakdown.
• 1:48:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sinners did some really, you know, almost invisible special effects with with the whole twins thing and filming Michael B. Jordan twice, but also things like, you know, the lost bus is nominated for basically its fire effects and sinners I think doesn't even more impressive concentrated job of that.
• 1:48:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, again, they don't let me choose.
• 1:48:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say the last bus solo nominee here.
• 1:48:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't talked about it.
• 1:48:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a huge fan of the film.
• 1:48:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that the writing is just very, I, you know, I'd be surprised if they told me that
• 1:48:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: written in part, uh, apparently by the writer of Mary of Eastown.
• 1:48:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess it's not surprising that they gave the main character and I realize it's based on real people, but they really drilled down on him having the most pressing backstory as they set up like the first, first couple scenes are just him being yelled at by his boss.
• 1:49:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: His family doesn't really like him.
• 1:49:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: His dog has to be put down.
• 1:49:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, come on, we don't need all of this extra stuff.
• 1:49:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, I, I thought Mary of East Tom was actually really well written the last bus.
• 1:49:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I didn't like it.
• 1:49:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't think it's going to win either.
• 1:49:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just happy to be here.
• 1:49:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm surprised that it was nominated both here and at the Oscars.
• 1:49:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do think.
• 1:49:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is Avatar Fire and Ashes to lose no surprises there.
• 1:49:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is obviously the third Avatar back to Pandora.
• 1:49:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Talk about it more in the VFX for Oscars.
• 1:49:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: We also talked about it already in costumes.
• 1:49:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is the obvious winner and I guess it is the deserving winner.
• 1:49:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Although I'll say it doesn't feel as fresh as the last two.
• 1:50:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Big part of that is that they mostly reuse the same settings in this film.
• 1:50:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, if you haven't seen it yet and you're expecting to go, you know, and see where the fire people come from, sorry, sorry to spoil that for you, but there are.
• 1:50:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: There is a new group of traders who have some cool ships and I suppose that's the new addition here, and, you know, we talked about in the costume episode, the costumeing of the new antagonistic character.
• 1:50:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there's that, but overall, yeah, it is just phenomenal CGI and 3D and all of that.
• 1:50:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm absolutely resigned or maybe even happy for it to win.
• 1:50:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was also longlisted for sound, although not nominated.
• 1:50:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: This one is one of the ones you can't yet see at home.
• 1:50:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is still in theaters.
• 1:50:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, F1, I shouted it out before because it was, it did get three nominations for, it was long listed in cinematography, but it's three nominations that the BAFTAs are for here for visual effects and then also for editing and sound.
• 1:51:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, indeed, I think these are the places where it should be nominated, the more technical categories, best pictures seem like a stretch, Oscars, but I wasn't totally surprised by that.
• 1:51:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we'll talk about that more in other episodes, but you can watch it on Apple TV.
• 1:51:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it's about cars go from room, bread, pit, Jean's favorite, damson, address, and also Kerry, Condon.
• 1:51:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the totally new film in this category, we haven't discussed yet in award season coverage at all, is how to train your dragon, which is a live action remake of the animated film from 2010, about on the rugged island of Burke, where Vikings and dragons have been bitter enemies for generations, hiccup stands apart.
• 1:51:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Defying centuries of tradition when he befriends toothless, a feared night fury dragon.
• 1:52:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're unlikely bond reveals the true nature of dragons, challenging the very foundations of Viking society.
• 1:52:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, as far as the movie, it didn't really engage me until hiccup and toothless start training, which feels like it takes a while, but then after that I was completely locked in.
• 1:52:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Even though my theater experience for this was horrible, so bad that at one point the theater even stopped the film and threatened to call the police on a group of very disruptive young men.
• 1:52:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that didn't actually stop after that.
• 1:52:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it was quite a dramatic theater experience, but I was still surprisingly into the film, even though I am a skeptical of these live action remakes as the next person.
• 1:52:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can see where the nominee comes from, you know, the dragons are great.
• 1:52:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I said this was instead of Jurassic Park with the dinosaurs.
• 1:52:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the Jurassic Park VFX to be honest is more photo realistic impressive, but I do think how to train your dragon has the better story.
• 1:53:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the other ones that were on the long list that could have gotten the nomination but didn't were indeed Jurassic World Rebirth, Mickey 17 again, Superman, Tron Aries, and Wicked for Good.
• 1:53:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously Superman, I don't know if the VFX is my favorite part of Superman.
• 1:53:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's some cool stuff there, but Superman, I just find it really upsetting that Superman is not getting recognition
• 1:53:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: This award season, this is definitely getting some blowback from the superhero fatigue, although I think most people agree that Superman and Thunderbolts were the two best superhero films of this year.
• 1:53:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, if most people just mean then fine, but I do think a lot of people especially love Superman.
• 1:53:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: There is, we did of course do a deep dive into this one as well, so you'll find that linked in the show notes too.
• 1:54:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I do, I want to say, I give an indefense of Toronto areas here.
• 1:54:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I found that this film is kind of maybe overhated.
• 1:54:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I went in very skeptical because I really didn't enjoy the second Toronto film at all.
• 1:54:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I like this one much better.
• 1:54:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: The premises, a highly sophisticated program called Aries, is sent from the digital world into the real world on a dangerous mission, marking human kinds first encounter with AI beings.
• 1:54:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, that program Aries was played by Jared Leto, who apparently was a driving force in getting this film made.
• 1:54:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I know a lot of people don't like him.
• 1:54:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I get why I don't really share that intense distaste.
• 1:54:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't ruin movies for me at all.
• 1:54:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I actually quite enjoyed watching this one and would even want to sequel.
• 1:54:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, is the writing good?
• 1:54:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, absolutely not.
• 1:55:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I would argue it's as good as Oscar nominee, avatar, fire, and ash, or best picture nominee F1.
• 1:55:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I actually think the visuals here were more exciting than Avatar, say, maybe because it's something fresh, something new, but I think it's really cool the way it seamlessly combines eras, you know, combining the technology from the original film with new cutting edge technology that literally is bursting out of this digital universe.
• 1:55:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: It gave me some things that I've not seen anywhere else.
• 1:55:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that they were more inventive here than the, it's impressively realistic, but the spell is wearing off CGI of Avatar personally, that's my personal opinion.
• 1:55:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I also love the score and I wish that the score had gotten an Oscar nomination or attention here.
• 1:55:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think it was great.
• 1:55:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, if you want to see Tron Eris and decide for yourself that is streaming on Disney, which brings us to how do they put it all together?
• 1:56:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's what the best editing categories about, and the five nominees here are F1, a house of dynamite, Marty Supreme, one battle after another, and sinners.
• 1:56:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So compared to the Oscar nominees, the one substitution is there's no sentimental value here and instead we have a house of dynamite, which I haven't really mentioned this one yet, the plot of a house of dynamite is not if, when, when a single unattributed missile is launched at the United States, a race begins to determine who is responsible and how to respond.
• 1:56:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I have to be honest, I really did not like this one.
• 1:56:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was just a very one-sided fear-mongering nuclear scare film that just definitively ignores even attempting to broach anything resembling answers, a plot resolution or a reason for the way that it ends or doesn't end.
• 1:57:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, every character is behavior in this makes me want to like face palm, and it just fills me with this deeply depressing thought that humanity is not capable of better than the absolute shittiest word.
• 1:57:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that this is the antithesis of the film we need right now.
• 1:57:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I just, you know, Katherine Bigelow, she's known for films like The Hurt Locker or Zero Dark 30 and granted these warm movies aren't my cup of tea in general, but, um, I just thought that this was...
• 1:57:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 1:57:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: It really felt so empty and frustrating for me.
• 1:57:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would, you know, I have, there is a couple Alex Garland, a political films recently that I've also rubbed up against the Civil War, which there are some aspects of that that I do quite like and warfare, which I just
• 1:58:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: you know, I did my home rent in the spirits.
• 1:58:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I won't cut back into this.
• 1:58:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I would rank this between warfare and civil war, but closer to the bottom to the warfare end of the scale.
• 1:58:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Although I will say upfront, Rebecca Ferguson did no wrong of course.
• 1:58:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is the only nomination that House of Dynamite got, but it was longlisted four times, so also for director Katherine Bigelow, original screenplay, and casting.
• 1:58:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you want to see and decide for yourself, you can find it on Netflix.
• 1:58:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: The rest of the long list for this one is 28 years later, but Gonia, Frankenstein, Hamna, and Weapons, and 28 years later is definitely the one that I would want to win.
• 1:58:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did gush a little bit earlier about how inventive the editing there, how it's breaking new grounds.
• 1:58:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe, and I can see why that rebs some people the wrong way, but actually this is what I would want, what I would want to award in a film is doing something new.
• 1:58:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see how people feel about the editing probably.
• 1:59:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think in like 10 years time people are gonna be like Oh 20 years later That changed the game or at least it should be like that.
• 1:59:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be saying that.
• 1:59:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be the people saying that
• 1:59:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it's not going to win.
• 1:59:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, because, anyway, didn't get nominated.
• 1:59:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So no chance of winning.
• 1:59:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So who will win?
• 1:59:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is one, I think, where it's going to be between room room and pew pew.
• 1:59:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I could see a house of dynamite getting in there, but like with the Oscars, I'm going to say the F1 is the front runner.
• 1:59:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of room room and pew pew.
• 1:59:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: The final tech category.
• 1:59:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about best sound where the nominees are F1 Frankenstein, one battle after another sinners and warfare and warfare is also longlisted for outstanding British film.
• 1:59:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the only other place it showed up as I've said.
• 1:59:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't love it myself But here we go room room versus pew pew best sounds has got to go to one of those two
• 2:00:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, the difference with the Oscar nominations is there's no surat here.
• 2:00:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't even long listed, and so we have warfare here instead.
• 2:00:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think surat is so much of a more interesting nominee for this.
• 2:00:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's about raves in the desert.
• 2:00:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the sound is really important for that.
• 2:00:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of, I'm kind of rooting for that one in some ways to win the Oscar, but it's not present here, so yeah, I think it's between F1 and more fair.
• 2:00:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Although maybe one battle or sinners breaks in with just, you know, the sheer love for those films, I did say I think that one battle has the edge at the bath does over sinners.
• 2:00:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the rest of the long list that didn't get nominated is Avatar Fire and Ash.
• 2:00:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bogonia, the lost bus, mission impossible the final reckoning and wicked for good.
• 2:00:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've seeners here, we have wicked for good here.
• 2:00:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is another category where musicals do well because that's important.
• 2:01:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sound.
• 2:01:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, this is a good spot to take one final break before we come back and discuss the final three special features categories.
• 2:01:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Be right back.
• 2:01:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you ready to get serious for a second?
• 2:01:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because let's dive into the best documentary nominees here.
• 2:01:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: The nominees for Best Documentary at the Bethes R. 2000 meters to Andreevka.
• 2:01:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Apocalypse in the tropics.
• 2:01:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cover up Mr. Nobody Against Putin and the perfect neighbor.
• 2:01:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I will be discussing probably all of these to some degree in depth in the Oscars episode, but let's dive in a bit more.
• 2:01:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say the front runner in this category here and at the Oscars is the perfect neighbor about it's on Netflix.
• 2:02:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's about police body cam footage that reveals how a long-running neighborhood dispute turned fatal in the documentary about fear,
• 2:02:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: We will talk about this more in the Oscar episode, it is, I mean, it's compelling in a true crime, kind of way, it's not necessarily my favorite, but it's the favorite to win over all, it's been winning a lot of the awards, it could well win here or it could be to American and they might go another direction, we'll come back to that.
• 2:02:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: The other Oscar nominee that's also nominated here is Mr. Nobody against Putin.
• 2:02:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: This set up for this is as Russia launches its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
• 2:02:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Primary schools across Russia's hinterlands are transformed into recruitment stages for the war.
• 2:02:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: facing the ethical dilemma of working in a system defined by propaganda and violence, a brave teacher goes undercover to film what's really happening in his own school.
• 2:03:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't say he's going undercover, he's just filming stuff and taking it with him and as he exits the country's stage left and works with David Borenstein to make this film.
• 2:03:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So indeed, also an Oscar nomination definitely will talk about it more there.
• 2:03:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can watch it on BBC iPlayer or video on demand, which brings us to the other three films.
• 2:03:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're not nominated for Oscars.
• 2:03:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were all on the Oscars long list.
• 2:03:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's say the Oscar nominations that didn't show up here are the Alabama solution, come see me in the good light and cutting through rocks.
• 2:03:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll talk about those in that episode.
• 2:03:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the three we got here instead are one that was considered a front runner at the beginning of the season 2,000 meters to Andreevka.
• 2:03:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is Mr. Slav's turn-off's follow-up to the 2024 BAFTA and Oscar winning 20 days in Mario Pool.
• 2:03:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this is about set in Ukraine, actually following boots on the grounds there as they fight their war.
• 2:04:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And amid the failing counter offensive, a journalist follows Ukrainian platoon on their mission to traverse one mile of heavily fortified forest and liberate a strategic village from Russian occupation.
• 2:04:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the farther they advance through their destroyed homeland, the more they realize that this war may never end.
• 2:04:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I've already said that I don't love warfare.
• 2:04:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I actually recommend watching this instead if you want to know what it's like to actually be on a mission with the military.
• 2:04:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is literally taking you on a mission with the military.
• 2:04:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: but this offers context, it helps you understand the goals of the mission that's important and the obstacles of the unit and the cause of the danger, and the soldiers they come across as real people.
• 2:04:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: They are actually real people and they take a second to humanize each of them instead of just having them sort of empty-headed vessels fighting for who knows what.
• 2:05:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 2:05:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just watching this.
• 2:05:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like here.
• 2:05:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's something.
• 2:05:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's a movie about war that actually means something.
• 2:05:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, in warfare is a movie about glamorizing battle.
• 2:05:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I suppose.
• 2:05:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 2:05:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, yeah.
• 2:05:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't get warfare.
• 2:05:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I've watched 2,000 meters turn Driefka and ask yourself, do we really want to glamourize war?
• 2:05:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's this certainly does not, but it really does show you what it's actually like.
• 2:05:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, I do think this could be a front runner here, even though it didn't get the Oscar nomination.
• 2:05:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Particularly here in Europe, we are still feeling the war in Ukraine rather keenly, of course, Britain is a bit more separated from us on the mainland.
• 2:05:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I could see this one doing well.
• 2:05:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: The other one that was not nominated.
• 2:05:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, my favorite in this category could also be a winner is from Brazil.
• 2:06:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Apocalypse in the tropics.
• 2:06:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's Petra Costa's follow-up to her 2020 Oscar, but not BAFTA, nominated the Edge of Democracy.
• 2:06:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the setup for this one is, when does a democracy end and a theocracy begin?
• 2:06:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Petra Costa investigates the increasingly powerful grip Christian Evangelical leaders hold over politics in Brazil.
• 2:06:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: She gains extraordinary access to the country's top political leaders including President Lula and former President Bolsonaro, as well as to Brazil's most famous televangelist
• 2:06:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: As I said, this is my personal favorite on this list.
• 2:06:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is beautifully photographed for one, and there's enthralling sound design, and she narrates it as almost like it's this sort of dark fairy tale, which I find just very captivating.
• 2:06:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's of chilling portrait of not just the ascent of far-right, quote-unquote Christian populism, but also an investigation into why it ascends, you know, the very human forces behind it from the power hungry puppets to their puppet masters who realize that the true-lasting power is not actually to be found on the frontlines.
• 2:07:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: to also the true believers who are looking for answers and empty places as it turns out to the most rabid of their brethren who are controlled by these cowardly anxieties that whisper in their ears that the only way they can survive is if the entire world is bent to their will.
• 2:07:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they are, of course, ironically ignorance of the fact that they are, in fact, bending themselves so the will of someone else who has no interest in sharing the benefits of that fear-mongred power.
• 2:07:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, yes, I have opinions upon clips in the tropics.
• 2:07:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's one of those films that you just absolutely need to watch right now to contextualize what's going on in the broader world.
• 2:07:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you can watch that on Netflix.
• 2:08:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the other one that the other one they didn't get the Oscar nomination that was on the long list there is cover up.
• 2:08:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is about journalist Seymour Hirsch, who's devoted his career to uncovering stories the powerful want buried from my lie to Abu Garib dig into the life's work of journalist Seymour Hirsch.
• 2:08:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this one I expected to like a lot more than I ultimately ended up liking it.
• 2:08:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know, I'm usually keen on the documentary about journalism.
• 2:08:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would say the most depressingly insightful part of this is just seeing how the New York Times behave toward him.
• 2:08:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I would say overall, I did have some trouble concentrating on this one.
• 2:08:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: This man had an absolutely incredible career.
• 2:08:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is a bit depressing to see how all these famous acts of journalism from history.
• 2:08:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: So many of them were instigated by a single man.
• 2:08:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it just makes you think, where is everybody else?
• 2:08:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why are other people not stepping up to the same degree?
• 2:09:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's what we desperately need in order to
• 2:09:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: get people to pay attention to what's going on in the world and get things back on the right side up to a world where more people feel safe and free.
• 2:09:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So very impressive, man, but the problem with the structure of this film is that it's sort of like an overview of his entire career and every time I'd start to get into a story, they'd jump into another
• 2:09:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And some of them were much more compelling than others.
• 2:09:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So ultimately, I don't know, it kind of lost me a few times.
• 2:09:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say the director, Laura Poichertz, her last big documentary was All the Beauty in the Bloodshed, which was one that other people liked a lot more than I did.
• 2:09:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So take that for what it's worth.
• 2:09:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to check it out for yourself, you can find cover up on Netflix.
• 2:09:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: So those are the five nominees.
• 2:09:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: As I said, the perfect neighbors consider the frontrunner overall at all the awards ceremonies, although I wouldn't be surprised to see what kind of like to see either 2,000 meters to Andreevka or my personal favorite apocalypse in the tropics when this one here instead.
• 2:10:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
• 2:10:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: the rest of the long list that wasn't nominated, included, becoming Led Zeppelin, which is a sort of more concert film than documentary a lot of the time, but it does tell you the stories about the band members and how they got together.
• 2:10:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: My favorite from the short list is the Librarians, which you can find on the BBC iPlayer.
• 2:10:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's about
• 2:10:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: the tough position that librarians in the US have been put in with all of the book banning that's been going on in recent years and they're struggle to try to protect the children who want to read books that reflect different ethnicities, different neurodivergences or sexual orientations
• 2:11:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's really mind blowing and infuriating, all these classics that I was taught in school, the way they're being treated now in many places and, um, yeah, I can't help by it.
• 2:11:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of librarians and, and I love librarians and, uh, you see in this documentary, how important their work is.
• 2:11:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to watch that one, it's on the BBC eye player.
• 2:11:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the other three long listed ones were ocean with David Attenborough already brought that up.
• 2:11:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's exactly what you expect from the title.
• 2:11:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: One to one, John and Yoko, that's obviously about John Lennon and Yoko Ono, and it's about specifically when they moved to New York City.
• 2:11:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it sort of blends together news footage from the time and other clips from popular culture on television, arguing that these were influencing their acts with phone calls that they had and interviews that they gave and what they were up to in their after they moved to New York City.
• 2:12:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the final one on the list is Reefenstahl about Lenny, Reefenstahl, the filmmaker who became the number one propagandist in Nazi Germany and interviewing her in all of the ensuing years after that, as she really bucked any sort of responsibility for her role in the
• 2:12:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: constantly.
• 2:12:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: She is contradicting herself.
• 2:12:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't paint a bad portrait of her.
• 2:12:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: It allows her to paint a bad portrait of herself, but then you also get that depressing.
• 2:12:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: All these people supporting her, it's just humanity never learns from our worst atrocities.
• 2:12:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is a bit of a depressing one, but an interesting one.
• 2:13:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's a documentary category.
• 2:13:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: and with some two lighter categories, not to be confused with each other.
• 2:13:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: The first one is best animated film, and I just want to point out that an animated film does not need to be for children.
• 2:13:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is just a medium, although with one exception from the long list here, all of the
• 2:13:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there's only three nominations in this category, like the animated shorts, which also only has three animations.
• 2:13:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they absolute disrespect for the medium of animation at the BAFTAs.
• 2:13:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it is what it is, and it's like this every year.
• 2:13:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: The three nominees this year are Elio.
• 2:13:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Little Amalee, or the character of Rain, and Zootopia 2, all three are also Oscar nominations, so we will talk about them more there, the two that are missing from the Oscar nominations are Arco and Kpop Demon Hunters, and Kpop Demon Hunters again was ineligible because Netflix declined to follow the roles and show the movie in the UK for a week.
• 2:14:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: would have been an easy thing that didn't cost them much, but I, like I said, I'm glad to see other animated films get a chance to shine.
• 2:14:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, Elio and Zootopia 2 are the two big studio ones.
• 2:14:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Elio, if you didn't see it or is it Elio?
• 2:14:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I forget how they pronounce it, but anyway, the premises, they asked for our leader, they got him.
• 2:14:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Eleo, a space fanatic with an active imagination, finds himself in a cosmic misadventure where he must form new bonds with eccentric alien life forms, navigate a crisis of intergalactic proportions and somehow discover who he is truly meant to be.
• 2:14:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can watch this one on Disney Plus, and yeah, I found it really charming.
• 2:14:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like this one.
• 2:15:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I especially liked the world building in this one.
• 2:15:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't really as blown away as I was with Little Omelette or the character of Rain, which is about when you're three years old.
• 2:15:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: You see everything and understand nothing.
• 2:15:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: The world is a perplexing, peaceful mystery to Emily, until a miraculous encounter with chocolate ignites her wild sense of curiosity.
• 2:15:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: As she develops a deep attachment to her family's housekeeper, Nishioson, Emily discovers the wonders of nature as well as the emotional truths hidden beneath the surface of her family's idyllic life as foreigners in post-war Japan.
• 2:15:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, if I got to choose for this category for the BAFTAs, this would be the winner no contest.
• 2:15:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I will talk about it more in the Oscars episode where this one and ARCO are my two favorites.
• 2:15:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to see it for yourself, it is out on VOD now, on video on demand now.
• 2:15:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I do think chances are the winner of this category will be Zootopia to the biggest financially on this list at least.
• 2:16:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do, I'm calling it Zootopia to hear that's what it's called in the U.S. Of to say, in the UK and in Europe, like here, I bought a ticket for Zootropolis to.
• 2:16:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you'll hear it called Zootropolis to at the Baptist.
• 2:16:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the summary is, in the American version, Zootopia will be changed forever.
• 2:16:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: See, it's felt like fur, like an animal, you get it anyway.
• 2:16:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: After cracking the biggest case in Zootopia's history, Rookie cops Judy Hopps and Nick Wilde find themselves on the twisting trail of a great mystery when Gary to Snake arrives in turns the animal metropolis upside down.
• 2:16:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: to crack the case.
• 2:16:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Judient Nick Musco undercover to unexpected new parts of town where their growing partnership is tested like never before.
• 2:16:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this one was also nominated for Children's and Family Film.
• 2:16:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can watch it on video on demand.
• 2:16:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the rest, it is also a shorter, long list for this category, only six on the long list.
• 2:17:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the other three that did make it RRCo, which we will talk about in the next category.
• 2:17:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: The bad guys too, which I'll get back to in a second.
• 2:17:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Demon Slayer commits to no Yiba Infinity Castle, which I actually have not yet watched this one because I am currently watching my way through the five seasons of television before this that set up this movie.
• 2:17:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So my plan is to binge all that before we do the animated Oscars episode so I can talk about it more than But let's back back up to bad guys two for a second This is one with Sam Rockwell as the quote unquote sexy Mr. Fox.
• 2:17:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of love for him on letterbox and a very sexual way
• 2:17:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely all star cast with Mark Marone, Aquafina, Craig Robinson, Anthony Ramos, Zazzi Beats, Danielle Brooks, Natasha Leon, Maria Buckelova, Alex Borstein, et cetera, et cetera.
• 2:18:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I found this one like I found the first bad guys movie just kind of very
• 2:18:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: lackluster mid.
• 2:18:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a word I use much, but I found it quite mid.
• 2:18:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: This one I found a massive improvement, the writing and the humor.
• 2:18:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do think I even liked the bad guys to better than Zootropolis, Zootopia, whatever you want to call it, too.
• 2:18:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: which I felt kind of met about to be honest, but I quite enjoyed the bad guys too, though.
• 2:18:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did have to work over time to turn off the science and logic parts of my brain when it gets especially to the climax, but the character writing, which is always the most important thing to me, that really worked for me.
• 2:18:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Although I have questions about this world because it does seem like when you look around in the background, most people are human, but yet they have a fox as
• 2:18:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm very confused about how animals and humans are integrated in this world and why there seems to be so many more humans than animals, but all the characters we follow are animals.
• 2:19:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, is that's a distinguished from Zotopia, whatever.
• 2:19:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the bad guys too, pleasant watch, you can definitely find a worse way to spend a couple hours.
• 2:19:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that brings us to the final category, best children's and family film.
• 2:19:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this is a unique category for the Baptist.
• 2:19:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: There are four nominations in this category, as usual.
• 2:19:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that is Arco Boong, Lilo in Stitch, and again, Zutopia 2.
• 2:19:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: So
• 2:19:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do I think Zatopia 2 will win here as well?
• 2:19:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, perhaps maybe, although we do have Arco here, the other Oscar nominee, and maybe the fact that it wasn't nominated and animation will do it well here and people will rally behind it so that it gets a win.
• 2:19:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
• 2:19:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: As I said, in the animated category, the ones that are nominated for Oscars, Arco is tied with Amelie for my favorite, the set-up here is what of Rambos were people from the future traveling in time.
• 2:20:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ten-year-old Arco lives in a far future, during his first flight in his Rambos suit he loses control and falls into the past.
• 2:20:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Iris, a girl, his age from 275, comes to his rescue and tries by all means to help send him back to his era.
• 2:20:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And this one, you can already tell in the description, excellent world building.
• 2:20:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really liked the characters or some really fun, not even villains per se, but antagonists in here.
• 2:20:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just, the theater I was in just had an absolute ball watching this.
• 2:20:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is currently playing in theaters in the U.S. And I'm not sure, is it still in theaters in the UK?
• 2:20:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know here in the Netherlands, they brought it back to theaters because of the nominations.
• 2:20:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: here in the way I saw it's often in the original French language with English subtitles, but I think in the US it's playing exclusively with the English dub with which does have an A-list American cast.
• 2:21:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: It will finally allegedly be available on video on demand on February 24, a lot of people, a lot of death racers are breathing aside, relief about that, so it'll be easier
• 2:21:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, Arco and Tutopia, those are the two animated films on this list.
• 2:21:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: This again, not an animated category, so the other two films are live action.
• 2:21:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Lilo and Stitch, you've probably heard of that one.
• 2:21:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is, of course, the live action remake to the classic animated film.
• 2:21:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll be honest, this is another one where I liked the live action remake much better than I expected.
• 2:21:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I had a good time with this one.
• 2:21:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember the original well enough I think to get lost in the details of changes from the adaptation.
• 2:21:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's the best written film, but yeah, I had a good time and I'm genuinely looking forward to the sequel that is already in progress.
• 2:22:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is, of course, to quote the marketing, the wildly funny and touching story of a lonely Hawaiian girl on the fugitive alien who helps her, who helps to mend her broken family.
• 2:22:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you can check it out for yourself if you haven't yet on Disney.
• 2:22:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't necessarily think it will win.
• 2:22:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do think it will be between the two animated films.
• 2:22:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: But let's talk about the last film, which is another live action film.
• 2:22:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Probably the one you have not heard of, which is boom.
• 2:22:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: to set it up in the valley of Manipur Boong, a little boy, plans to surprise his mother with gift.
• 2:22:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: In his innocence, he believes that bringing his father home will be the most special.
• 2:22:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: But his search culminates in a different unexpected gift, a new beginning.
• 2:22:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this was a sweet film, obviously, about family drama.
• 2:22:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am really glad that this film nudged me to do a deep dive into metaphor, a part of Northeast India, that I've been curious about, but no very little about.
• 2:23:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this kind of gave a primer on that.
• 2:23:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And
• 2:23:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: kind of has a sad, a denim at the end that fighting is broken out and destroyed a lot of what is filmed in this.
• 2:23:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it is sort of a preserving, a time capsule of what the border with Burma there used to look and be like.
• 2:23:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I do, I'm very glad that I watched this one, I have to say it is the hardest to find on this list.
• 2:23:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: But keep, if that doesn't treat you,
• 2:23:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And to the long list here is 8 in total, so there's 4 that didn't get nominated, that would be Leo, which we just talked about, how to train your dragon and little anomaly, which we just talked about, and other categories as well.
• 2:23:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: So interesting that Arco got in in children and family film and little, little amally in animation but not both in either.
• 2:24:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's tough to say which has the advantage there, as I said those are my two favorites, but the new one on this long list that we haven't discussed anywhere else is a film called Grow one that I wouldn't have heard of if not for this nomination.
• 2:24:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And to set it up, big dreams, bigger pumpkins.
• 2:24:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: In the self-proclaimed pumpkin capital of the world, no nonsense, crumudgently farmer Dina Little takes in her estranged niece Charlie, who decides to enter the local pumpkin growing competition where she and the other growers face fierce competition, sabotage, and a genetically engineered rival.
• 2:24:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this one, I mean, the writing is nothing to write home about to be honest, but I had a really fun time watching it.
• 2:24:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like one of the sillier episodes of Doctor Who, but it's definitely better than the worst Doctor Who episode.
• 2:24:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like this is no space babies.
• 2:24:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I had a genuinely good time here.
• 2:25:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I laughed out loud at some of the jokes like, for instance, they have like a mutilated pump, someone wakes up to find a mutilated pumpkin in their bed, you know, Godfather's style.
• 2:25:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just love that between this and I just recently watched and wrote a review about the Brazilian animated film Papaya for 2026, maybe that will be a 2027 Oscar nominee or BAFTA nominee who knows.
• 2:25:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I do kind of like the trend that recent children's movies are all about indoctrinating kids into organic farming life, so that's definitely a tone here.
• 2:25:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's got a great cast.
• 2:25:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: We've got Golda, Rochival for a who plays Queen Charlotte and Bridgerton.
• 2:25:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: She is, she is the Commudently Farmer Dynalittle.
• 2:25:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have Nick Frost as her friends, and I thought it was a great child performance as well.
• 2:25:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, if you have kids, definitely show them grow.
• 2:25:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of fun.
• 2:26:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: This one is available to stream on sky in the UK or on video on demand in the U.S. And that's it.
• 2:26:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Those are all the nominees for the Baptist and also all the long-listed films.
• 2:26:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I promised that I would give you my top 10, so to set up this top 10, I'm including films that were not
• 2:26:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, counting down all first.
• 2:26:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll give an honorable mention on behalf of Marilyn for the coral.
• 2:26:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Remember her voicemail and also the similar ish Mr. Burton.
• 2:26:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can watch the coral on video on demand and Mr. Burton on eye player.
• 2:26:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then for my top 10.
• 2:26:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have a tie for number 10.
• 2:26:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm cheating.
• 2:26:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So my tie for number 10 is rental family.
• 2:26:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: The one with Brendan Fraser in Japan.
• 2:26:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can watch that on Hulu, a rented on video on demand, or from the long list, Heda, which you can watch on Amazon Prime, the Tessa Thompson one about an unhappy woman
• 2:27:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Number nine, I have Steve, which is Killian Murphy trying to rescue a school and fight his own demons at the same time.
• 2:27:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can watch that on Netflix.
• 2:27:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Number eight, I have I swear about Robert Armeo playing a real man who helped the rest of the world understand what Tourette's is and what it looks like.
• 2:27:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can find that in the UK on video on demand.
• 2:27:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Pilion with Harry Melling and Alexander Skard's guard in a BDSM rom-com You can also find that on a video on demand in the UK The ballot of Wallace Island about getting a folk band back together years after a breakup drove them apart You can find that on prime or video on demand
• 2:28:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, it's Alicia, the editor from the future because I forgot something.
• 2:28:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot to key movies because I changed the my own rules saying that I could include movies in this list from the long list.
• 2:28:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so, allow me to squeeze one of them in here as a tie with the Ballet of Wallace Island.
• 2:28:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mickey 17 on HBO, I talked about it a lot earlier, check it out.
• 2:28:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: from the long list Superman, which again, I just think, woefully underrepresented this award season.
• 2:28:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, um, the, the scene where Lois interrogates Clark alone, just absolutely blew me away from a writing perspective.
• 2:28:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And,
• 2:28:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: What I love about Superman is I keep hearing anecdotes from people who have kids or our teachers of kids and they're saying, you know, especially middle-aged kids, which are often the meanest age, and they're saying that after Superman came out, there was a sort of bubble of kindness of people trying to be kinder to each other for while these kids especially.
• 2:29:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And for me, it just goes to show why we need more of this hope punk cinema.
• 2:29:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: and I think that if we told stories that are both kinder and more realistic at the same time in terms of the complex realities of navigating the sociology of our world, I think that the kids would be better off.
• 2:29:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm hoping that more people follow in superman's footsteps in that regard.
• 2:29:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if we want to see how things can get worse, I have the documentary, apocalypse in the tropics about the role the evangelical movement played in the rise and fall of Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil.
• 2:29:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can watch that one on Netflix.
• 2:29:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: and then a number three, I have wicked for good justice for wicked for good.
• 2:29:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a movie that has a lot of depth in addition to just being an absolutely gorgeous movie.
• 2:29:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I won't call it perfect, but I do think it's one of the better movies this year.
• 2:30:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can watch that on video on demand.
• 2:30:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: In second place, one of my favorite movies of the year, this is from the long list, didn't get a nomination here, but I'm still gonna shout out left-handed girl, which you can watch on Netflix about the mother and two daughters in Taiwan.
• 2:30:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just trying to get by and eat out a living for themselves and all the craziness that comes up in their life.
• 2:30:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: and Alicia from the future is back with my second accidental omission from this list.
• 2:30:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to make it a tie with number two left-handed girl that is no other choice.
• 2:30:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: That is the South Korean drama, dramaity about a man who will do anything to keep his job and be able to afford his family.
• 2:30:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: So no other choice, check it out on video on a man.
• 2:30:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then, of course, surprising no one.
• 2:30:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: My number one of the BAFTA-only features for lower-hounds is 28 years later.
• 2:31:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: The zombie movie with heart and poetry, which you can experience for yourself now on Netflix.
• 2:31:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then do watch the sequel, the Bone Temple, and then listen to our episode coming up all about that.
• 2:31:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So speaking of what's coming up, the BAF does air this Sunday afternoon hosted by Alan coming, so in the UK they're on BBC One or iPlayer and they are playing a various other places around the world again.
• 2:31:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I put that link in the show notes where you can look up where they might be near you.
• 2:31:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: It does say it's on HBO Max and Australia just saying for anyone that's useful too.
• 2:31:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I will host another live watch chat for this one on discord this Sunday.
• 2:31:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is this will be earlier in the day.
• 2:31:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's 5 p.m. UK time 6 p.m. My time.
• 2:31:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's 11 a.m. Eastern time in the US, which means it's 8 a.m. on Pacific time.
• 2:31:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: So sorry.
• 2:31:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know that's super early, but if you can join, yeah, that will that will be fun.
• 2:32:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: As for the rest of the series, we'll be very Oscar's focused talking about the Oscar nominees, one cluster of categories at a time, starting with the next episode.
• 2:32:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be about the production design categories followed by the international films and tech awards, then docs, etc.
• 2:32:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, of course, our other lower-hounds coverage going strong with weekly coverage of the pits by John and David, weekly coverage of a night of the seven kingdoms with, yeah, we're doing a whole cross-feed coverage here with two episodes a week and properly Howard and the main breakdown on the lower-hounds feed.
• 2:32:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: and then coming start of march as I keep promising the bone temple which is now out on video on demand if you want to you can catch up on the first film on Netflix and the second film is on video on demand now.
• 2:32:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And of course check out what's going on on the other affiliates never mind the music where psychology meets music radioactive ramlings which I guess they just wrapped up the new season of fallout
• 2:33:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: and properly Howard is also starting a new season of their, uh, they just, they just completed their film draft, so you can listen to that episode and get it's always the most complicated film drafts, but it's a very fun line up for this season, so check that out on their feed.
• 2:33:20
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• 2:33:27
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• 2:33:34
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• 2:35:07
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• 2:35:13
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