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Virginia Roberts Giuffre’s Deposition in Edwards and Cassell v. Alan Dershowitz (Part 3) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  where we left off with the Virginia Roberts deposition against
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  Alan Dershowitz. Question we were looking at the list of names,
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  and you were going through to see if they refresh
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  your recollection as to the names of individuals to whom
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  you are sexually trafficked. Answer on page three redacted? Question
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  who is redacted? Answer? I think she also goes underneath
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  the name redacted. If it's the same woman that I'm
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  thinking of, and she was one of Jeffrey's I would
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  like to say co conspirators. She had sex with underage
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  girls and myself redacted. He was not only a witness,
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  but he was also a co conspirator. Again, redacted sounds familiar,
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  but I'm not going to attempt to put her out
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  of place, and I'm not too sure. Question do you
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  know who the names of the others are redacted or redacted?
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  Do you know who they are? Answer redacted? I think
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  I have heard of another victim, but I don't recall
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  meeting her. Question do you know who are redacted? Is? Answer? No? Question? Okay?
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  Answer number nineteen, Alan Dershowitz Number twenty two, Eva Anderson
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  Dubin Number twenty three, Glenn Dubin. Question, before you move on,
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  were you sexually trafficked to Eva Anderson Dubin. McCauley, this
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  has been asked and answered, Special Master, No, it has
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  not overruled. Answer No, I was not trafficked to Eva redacted. Question.
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  Let me ask you this. Were you sexually traffic to redacted? Answer?
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  No question, Miss McCauley with a question pending. I think
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  she's lost the question. Counsel asked the question Borgia. Okay, Counsel,
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  I'll ask the question. McCauley, Thank you, Borgia. The question
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  is when you look at this list of names, does
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  it refresh your recollection as to who you were sexually
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  trafficked to answer some of the people that I mentioned yes,
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  question okay, So let's continue reviewing the list. I'm looking
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  for names of the people that you allege you were
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  sexually trafficked to answer okay, redacted. Number twenty seven Jeffrey
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  Epstein redacted. She was an older woman who participated. Question
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  participated in what answer in sexual acts? Question with whom?
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  Answer with Jeffrey Epstein? Question how do you know? Answer
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  I was there with her? Question okay? Who else was there?
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  Answer Glenn Maxwell, redacted? Question anyone else? Answer no? Did
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  I say redacted? Question? No answer? Okay? Redacted? Is another one? Question?
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  Is another? What answer another old woman that was part
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  of the sexual endeavors? Question with whom? Answer Glane, Jeffrey
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  and me? Question anyone else? Answer redacted? Question I'm sorry,
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  I'm still thinking about or I'm still talking about redacted.
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  When you said involved, you said involved with sexual activity
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  with Glane, Jeffrey and yourself. Was there anybody else involved? Answer?
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  Not that I can remember. Question was this a single incident? Answer?
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  No question? Okay, answer redacted? Redacted and redacted? She was
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  heavily involved with, very heavily involved with lots of incidents
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  of sex. Question with yourself? Answer with myself? Question and
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  who else? Ms McCauley. To the extent you can answer,
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  if it's multiple incidents, you can take them one at
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  a time. Answer it was multiple incidents. So it's going
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  to be nearly impossible for me to remember everyone but
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  obviously Jeffrey Epstein, Glenn Maxwell, redacted. I'm sure there's more,
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  but I just can't remember off the top of my head.
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  Question how do you know that she had sex with redacted? Answer?
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  I was there? Question how do you know she had
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  sex with redacted? Answer again, I was there? Question how
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  many times did you and redacted and are adacted have
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  sex together? Answer once that I can remember. Question where
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  were you? Answer? New Mexico? Question are there other witnesses?
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  Answer redacted? I can't pronounce her last name? Question redacted?
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  Answer redacted? Yes, question anyone else? Answer redacted McAuley. I'm sorry,
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  I think she's moving on with the list. Are you
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  still talking about the incident? Borgia? I understand redacted was
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  a witness to your sexual activity with redacted in Mexico?
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  Is that what you meant? Answer yes, question she was
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  a witness? Answer yes? Question was redacted a witness? Answer no?
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  I'm sorry, I was moving on with the list. Question
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  was it the sexual incident involving redacted? Answer? Palm Beach
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  and the Caribbean with Jeffrey myself possibly redacted if I
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  remember correctly, there was another girl. I'm pretty sure it
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  was redacted. Question were you sexually trafficked to anybody else
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  on the list? Answer? I'll continue with the list here redacted?
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  I was not sent to her, but she was part
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  of it with Jeffrey Epstein redacted. Question who is redacted?
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  Answer he, I don't know exactly what he does, but
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  I think he's some kind of redacted. Question did you
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  have sex with him? Answer yes? Question how many times?
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  Answer off the top of my head? Just once? Question
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  where were you? Answer? I believe redacted was at Mexico?
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  Question approximately? How old were you? Answer again, I don't know.
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  Question are there other witnesses? Answer not that I can remember.
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  I mean, besides Jeffrey asking me to give him a massage,
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  which involves sexual acts. I don't remember. Redacted was another
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  victim of Jeffrey Epstein who witnessed sexual acts. Question witness
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  sexual acts between you and somebody else? Answer, she's another
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  victim that I would like to say that. I wouldn't
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  like to mention the stuff that happened to her. She's
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  very sensitive about this stuff. Question That's fine, But I'm
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  wondering if she's a witness to sexual acts that you
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  allege were between you and somebody else? Answer other than Epstein. No,
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  I mean, she did see the meeting with redacted, but
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  she did not witness the act with them. Question Okay,
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  answer redacted. Is I believe that be redacted? Which is redacted?
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  And I've already explained that one redacted she witnessed many
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  acts of sexual abuse by Glenn Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein
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  redacted to the pilot, I don't believe that he witnessed anything,
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  but he was redacted during some of the times that
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  sexual abuse encountered. Question do you know why I redacted
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  is not on this list? Answer? I haven't seen this
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  list before, so no, Miss McCauley. This is a good
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  time to take a break, Miss Borgia. The time is
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  now nine to forty five, so they take their quick
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  break and then they're back. Ms McCauley, did you mark
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  this scrolla? Yeah, McCauley, that's two Borgia. Question Miss Roberts,
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  did you have an opportunity to talk to anybody other
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  than Miss McCauley during the break? Answer? Yeah, I spoke
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  with my good friends over there. Question who are answer
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  Britney Henderson and Meredith. Question anyone else? Answer Brad Edwards.
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  I'm sorry, I forgot he came in. Question now do
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  you have knowledge of Professor Dershowitz having sex with a
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  minor girl other than you claim yourself answer yes, I
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  don't know their names. Question how do you know that?
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  Answer I witnessed it. Question where were you? Answer on
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  an airplane? Question how many girls? Answer one? Question describer
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  answer blonde young. Question anything else? Answer no. Question Where
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  were you going on this plane? Answer? You know, it's
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  hard for me to remember the exact destination. I was
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  flying around a lot from the times I was with Jeffrey,
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  But I believe it was two Massachusetts if my memory
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  is correct. Question why are you flying to Massachusetts? Answer again,
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  I don't want to. I don't know. I just flew
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  wherever Jeffrey wanted to fly to. Question did you stay
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  in a hotel in Massachusetts? Answer no, we flew out
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  and flew in the same day. Question who else was
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  on the plane? Answer Epstein? Question were you coming? Where
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  were you coming from? Answer? I believe it was New York.
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  But again, I don't want to one hundred percent say
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  like I said, we were constantly flying. Question was it wintertime?
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  Was it summertime? What do you recall about when it was?
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  Answer it wasn't snowing, so I'm not too sure. This
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  is going back a long time. I don't know the date.
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  Question what's your best recollection of how you were dressed. Answer,
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  I don't know what I was wearing. Question did you
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  have a sweater? Answer? I don't know what I was wearing.
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  Question were you over eighteen? Answer I don't know. I'm sorry.
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  Question you might have been? Answer I could have been.
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  I could have been under eighteen or over eighteen. Question
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  the other girl she could have been over eighteen? Answer
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  she could have been, she could not have been. Jeffrey
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  liked having a lot of young girls around them, so
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  I'm not sure. Question you don't know one way or
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  the other whether the girl was a minor and I
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  didn't ask her age. Question Other than the girl, you're
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  not sure whether she was a miner. Are there any
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  other girls you are sure were a miner who were
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  who you think had sex with Professor Dershowitz? Answer not
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  that I know of. Question. So would it be correct
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  that you actually don't know one way or the other
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  whether Professor Dershowitz had sex with any miners other than
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  you claim yourself. McAuley objection. You can answer, answer, yeah,
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  I don't know. It would be hard to say. Jeffrey,
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  like I said, had lots of young girls around all
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  the time, and some of them were very young, and
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  some of them on the cusp of eighteen nineteen, so
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  it's very hard to speculate how old she was. Question
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  so you don't know? Answer, I don't know. Question other
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  than yourself, Jeffrey, Professor Dershowitz and this other woman of
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  unknown age? Was anybody else on the plane besides the pilot?
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  Answer pilot? Question? That's it? Answer yes, question putting aside ages,
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  whether there were miners or not other than this girl
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  that you say had sex with Professor Dershowitz on a plane?
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  Are you aware of any other girls with whom you
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  believe Professor Dershowitz had sex? Answer? Professor Dershowitz was around
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  a lot, and there was always young girls around a lot,
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  And I physically did not see him with any other
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  young girl besides the ones that we're talking about right
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  now on myself. But no, I'm not too sure. Question
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  you don't know of any correct answer, not that I
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  physically witnessed. Question How tall is Professor Dershowitz? Answer? I
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  don't know. Question is he closer to five to five
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  or five six? Goodness? Five five five six, five to seven?
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  He's not six foot? Question? Does he have any distinguishing characteristics.
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  Answer like are you asking me skin color? Question any
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  distinguishing physical characteristics, whatever that might mean to you? Answer
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  he's older. I don't know what you mean. Like does
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  he have a mole in a specific place? Is that
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  what you're asking me? Question any that might occur to you?
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  Answer no, not that I know of. Question did you
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  know who he was before you met him the first time?
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  Answer no. Question Now, one of the places that you
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  say you had sex with Professor Dershowitz was in New Mexico?
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  Correct answer yes. Question when was that? Answer again, It's
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  hard for me to place exact times and dates. But
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  it wasn't snowing and it wasn't hot, so it could
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  have been fall or spring. One thing that I do
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  remember was Jeffrey was having a pool area painted, and
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  the massage room was just off the pool area. Question
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  what else do you remember? Answer? I remember the smell
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  of paint. I remember Later that evening there was a
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  dinner party of a whole bunch of academic scientists. I
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  guess I'm not too sure. We weren't really allowed to
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  have and make conversation with the people around us. Question
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  how many people were at this dinner party. Answer. I
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  don't know the exact number, but over fifteen. Question anybody
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  that you recall? Anybody famous? Answer No, nobody famous that
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  I recall. I'm just showing that they are distinguished in
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  their own way. But besides Alan Dershowitz, Jeffrey Epstein, Glenn Maxwell, redacted,
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  the House staff. Question Now you said there was a
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  dinner party with redacted? Answer yes. Question or any of
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  the redacted that we talked about early today at that party?
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  Answer not that I remember. They could have been, but
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  I was not there for anyone else. Question how did
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  you get there? Answer by airplane? Jeffrey. Question you flew
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  privately for that event? Answer yes. Question how did you leave?
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  Answer privately? Question how long are you there? Answer? Maybe
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  anywhere between three days and the week. Question so at
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  least three days? Answer at least three days. Question who
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  else was on the plane with you? Answer Jeffrey Epstein, redacted, Glaine, myself,
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  the pilots, possibly redacted. I can't remember. He was on
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  the plane sometimes and sometimes not so. Question can you
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  spell redacted's last name? McCall if you know? Answer off
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  the top of my head redacted? Question who is redacted?
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  Answer redacted question, was Professor Dershowitz on the plane answer, No,
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  All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right here, and
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  in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna
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  pick up where we left off. All of the information
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