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Epstein Files, Could Oregon Set Precedent? | HBR News 532 · Honey Badger Radio

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Speaker 1: Five point thirty two? Epstein Files? Could Oregon set precedent
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Speaker 1: a lot coming out and a lot of it's not
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Speaker 1: all that said, let us get into today's story. So first,
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna leave us up. I wasn't gonna cover
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Speaker 1: this because I didn't know how that, you know, I
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Speaker 1: didn't know how significant it was, considering there have been
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Speaker 1: other releases of these files and they were underwhelming to
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Speaker 1: say the least. But apparently the December twenty twenty five
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Speaker 1: releases from the US Department of Justice, which are available
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Speaker 1: on their website. So there's a lot of people covering it,
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Speaker 1: and they all have their own opinion, and I basically
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Speaker 1: look for the most objective source, and that is essentially
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Speaker 1: Justice dot gov at least as objectives as we're going
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Speaker 1: to get. Hello, Meredith, And this is where you can
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Speaker 1: get all of the documents. So it contains thousands of documents,
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Speaker 1: including investigative materials, court records, emails, flight logs, and hundreds
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Speaker 1: of photographs seized from Epstein's properties. The releases began on
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Speaker 1: December nineteenth and continued in batches, including a large one
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Speaker 1: on December twenty third, today, with nearly thirty thousand pages
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Speaker 1: with heavy redactions applied to protect victim identities and sensitive information.
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Speaker 1: Reports indicate that much of the material overlaps with previously
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Speaker 1: public or leaked items, and no major new evidence of
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Speaker 1: previously unknown criminal accomplices or blackmail operations has emerged from
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Speaker 1: the disclosed portions. Although I did do this examination like
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Speaker 1: hours ago, and I think that since then there's been
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Speaker 1: some news. I think the quartering talked about like potentially
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Speaker 1: ten accomplices to Glad Maxwell and Epstein. I have to
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Speaker 1: follow up on that. I can do it. We can
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Speaker 1: do it in the Patron show. Like I said, there's
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Speaker 1: like constantly developing things that are happening. So anyway key
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Speaker 1: elements from the newest information of these files. And by
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Speaker 1: the way, there are pictures and stuff, but I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to put anything up because I don't know what
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Speaker 1: it's gonna do for our channel. It's very sensitive information. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of blacked out faces and stuff, but
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of sketchy imagery as well, And I
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Speaker 1: don't know how Alison would feel about it. Is her
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Speaker 1: channel at the end of the day, I'm just sort
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Speaker 1: of like, you know, the steward of the channel as
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Speaker 1: it were. So I'm not going to show any images
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Speaker 1: or anything like that. But there are photos, so photographs
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Speaker 1: of guests and associates. Images show Epstein socializing with various
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Speaker 1: prominent individuals, often in undated or social settings pictures. Pictured
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Speaker 1: figures include former President Bill Clinton in multiple photos in
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Speaker 1: a pool or jacuzzie alongside redacted individuals at events, with
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Speaker 1: Mick Jagger, on a plane with Michael Jackson and Diana Ross.
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Speaker 1: There's images of Michael Jackson standing next to Epstein in
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Speaker 1: front of artwork, also with Clinton and Diana Ross. Diana
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Speaker 1: Ross again also in there, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Richard Branson.
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Speaker 1: I don't know who Richard Branson is. Anyone know who
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Speaker 1: Richard Branson is.
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Speaker 2: He's a British billionaire. He's in charge of Virgin Airlines
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Speaker 2: and Virgin that changes like the British Donald Trump, Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: Just like there's a lot of Richard Branson's you.
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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, I see, Okay, Gelain, Maxwell, Mick Jagger, many
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Speaker 1: photos future redacted or obscured faces, particularly of young women
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Speaker 1: to protect potential victims. Also, though, there is also lots
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Speaker 1: of imagery of boys and underage men. And this is
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Speaker 1: something that people when they talk about the Epstein, this
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Speaker 1: whole Epstein thing, in terms of his victims, it's almost
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Speaker 1: exclusively girls that are talked about, but there were male
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Speaker 1: victims as well that were trafficked anyway. A painting of
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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton an address which we already saw, passports, including
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Speaker 1: one with Epstein's photo under a different name, screenshots of
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Speaker 1: messages related to recruitment, framed items such as oversized checks
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Speaker 1: or artwork, and photos of Epstein were unidentified or redacted women,
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Speaker 1: some in group poses for women in identical clothing with
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Speaker 1: hands in a prayer position. That was one that I
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Speaker 1: saw as well. So kind of weird stuff. And there
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Speaker 1: was one thing, Yeah, go ahead.
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Speaker 2: Mike, No, no, you go on, finish, finish.
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Speaker 1: I was going to add something, but I can wait
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Speaker 1: until after you've said something, So give your thoughts.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be saying the thing for a long time.
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Speaker 2: It Yeah, we're never gonna get shipped, are we? At
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Speaker 2: least nothing of substance. None of this is any more
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Speaker 2: substantive than that hoax picture of Trump at mar A
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Speaker 2: Lago at some kind of makeup commercial or whatever it was,
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Speaker 2: posing with a bunch of adult women with sense of
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Speaker 2: bars placed over their faces as if to insinuate that
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Speaker 2: they were victims. It's like, yeah, yeah, we know Epstein
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Speaker 2: had celebrity parties. We know those parties led to shady
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Speaker 2: background deals. That's not what we're interested in. And if
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Speaker 2: you're going to redact the faces of the supposed victims,
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Speaker 2: it doesn't prove anything. Even if you did show their faces,
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Speaker 2: that still doesn't prove anything because adult women tend to
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Speaker 2: wear makeup to make them look like teenage girls. Unfortunately,
10:05
Speaker 2: what we're really interested in, what we're really interested in seeing,
10:11
Speaker 2: is the one thing that we're not super interested in seeing,
10:15
Speaker 2: namely the images of well CP, the incriminating pictures that
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Speaker 2: were taken for black male purposes, depicting these various big
10:28
Speaker 2: shots engaging in this illegal activity. It's pretty obvious that
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Speaker 2: we're not going to get those, and we wouldn't want
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Speaker 2: to get them anyway. Would all be guilty of possessing
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Speaker 2: images of CP, according to the police, we'd be guilty
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Speaker 2: of creating those images, because that's what they mean when
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Speaker 2: those images appear on your computer. And then we'd all
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Speaker 2: get arrested and imprisoned, while the unspeakable untouchables who committed
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Speaker 2: those crimes will continue to walk free, especially when it
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Speaker 2: comes to the people in question, the people listed just
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Speaker 2: up Bill Clinton. Yes, yeah, we knew that. Everyone knew
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Speaker 2: he was a sex best and very probably a rapist.
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Speaker 2: The man could go on live TV and confess to
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Speaker 2: Ian watkinsing a thousand toddlers and he still won't get arrested.
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Speaker 2: Ex presidents never get arrested unless the deep State wants
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Speaker 2: them arrested for upsetting the apple cart. Hence the only
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Speaker 2: ex president he's ever been arrested Mick Jagger. Yeah, fucking
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Speaker 2: McK jagger. There are playground swing sets that have been
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Speaker 2: sat on by fewer underage asses than Nick fucking Jagger.
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Speaker 2: Is the lease of Mick jagger'son. I didn't know that
12:02
Speaker 2: about Mick Jackson. I figure, when you're a rock star,
12:07
Speaker 2: everyone knows that about what anyway. Kevin Spacey, Yeah, we
12:16
Speaker 2: all knew Kevin Spacey was a nonce. He basically confessed it.
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Speaker 2: But while confessing it, he came out of the closet
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Speaker 2: at the same time. And and so that makes him
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Speaker 2: a victim, do you see, because he's been living his
12:30
Speaker 2: life as a gay man. Also, a few, a few people,
12:36
Speaker 2: a few people did conveniently die under mysterious circumstances during
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Speaker 2: his potential conviction for NANCERI that happens a lot. It
12:52
Speaker 2: happens because that's actually how we get that. That's how
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Speaker 2: we get convictions. We need pictures of allegedly underaged girls,
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Speaker 2: and and and and that. Even in this day and age,
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Speaker 2: that ain't going to cut it because of the fucking AI,
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Speaker 2: fucking bullshit this happening now. We need victims to come
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Speaker 2: forward with receipts, actual receipts, and that keeps not happening
13:22
Speaker 2: because when victims have receipts, they end up conveniently accidentally
13:29
Speaker 2: brutally cutting their own heads off with a spoon of Well,
13:35
Speaker 2: of course, a much easier method is to just throw
13:39
Speaker 2: those checks overboard in international waters, which which was easy
13:45
Speaker 2: for for Epsine and Maxwell because they were constantly on
13:51
Speaker 2: boats when sailing between their island and the mainland. Ironically,
13:57
Speaker 2: that's how billionaire medium mogul Robert Maxwell died m allegedly
14:04
Speaker 2: knocked off by dodgy sailors like Freddie Mercury, but in
14:10
Speaker 2: a different way, in a very different way. Robert Maxwell.
14:15
Speaker 2: Robert Maxwell, for those of you who don't know, was
14:19
Speaker 2: Glane Maxwell's father. I guess she's been I guess it
14:27
Speaker 2: pissed her off to no end, and she's been taking
14:30
Speaker 2: it out on other people's children ever since. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's it's not looking good. It's not looking like we're
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Speaker 2: ever going to get any closure on this, let alone
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Speaker 2: any convictions. I don't know if the Trump administrator, the
14:46
Speaker 2: current Trump administration had good intentions going into this, but
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Speaker 2: so far, all they've done is muddy the waters. Don't
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Speaker 2: get me wrong, it's it's an even more damning indictment
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Speaker 2: on all the previous administrations to have never even attempted
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Speaker 2: to touch those waters despite everything they knew. But these
15:11
Speaker 2: investigations by the current trope administration don't seem to be helping.
15:16
Speaker 2: It's like they're trying to pull the turd out of
15:19
Speaker 2: the drain, but in their attempts, all they can do
15:23
Speaker 2: is push it further in. It's it's a disappointment, to
15:30
Speaker 2: say the least, but hey, it's it's better to be
15:34
Speaker 2: ruled by disappointing cops than to be ruled by the
15:40
Speaker 2: evil mobsters that those cops couldn't even catch. And to
15:46
Speaker 2: anyone who's still supporting the mobsters and gloating over the
15:51
Speaker 2: fact that the cops didn't catch those mobsters, yeah now
15:56
Speaker 2: you are still scumbags. You're not winning, which is caustically smug.
16:04
Speaker 2: That we're all still losing, because all of us losing
16:10
Speaker 2: is a better outcome to you than the people you
16:13
Speaker 2: don't like winning, which is your own people, because because
16:18
Speaker 2: your novets, your own orchophobic fucking noves nomads, I say
16:25
Speaker 2: to you.
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Speaker 1: Uh, the one thing I will say about this is
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Speaker 1: I can it's a very tricky situation because there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of redactions, and Trump himself bemoaned the reputations that
16:40
Speaker 1: could be ruined by this. Now, of course people are
16:44
Speaker 1: gonna say, oh, well, he's protecting pedophiles. No, that's not it.
16:48
Speaker 1: Think about it like this. Jeffrey Epstein was a socialite,
16:53
Speaker 1: a financier. He went to all the parties. He knew
16:57
Speaker 1: everybody that was anybody. So if you went to any
17:02
Speaker 1: kind of shindig, he was going to probably be there
17:05
Speaker 1: if there were like important people there, and you were
17:08
Speaker 1: probably gonna end up in a photo with him, whether
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Speaker 1: you want it or not. And maybe you don't even
17:12
Speaker 1: know the guy because like until all of this happened,
17:16
Speaker 1: we didn't know who he was until like the whole
17:19
Speaker 1: all the lawsuits came out and all of that. So
17:22
Speaker 1: it's it's I think that it's as people who are
17:25
Speaker 1: or at least myself as somebody who's concerned about false
17:28
Speaker 1: allegations and guilt by association. I think that it makes
17:32
Speaker 1: sense that Trump would have like concerns because you know,
17:36
Speaker 1: if you just like say, here's everyone who ever took
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Speaker 1: a photo with this guy. Ever, the problem is is
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Speaker 1: that everyone's going to assume that every person in a
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Speaker 1: photo with this guy is guilty of something, and that's
17:48
Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense because he was somebody who was
17:50
Speaker 1: in these like sort of like you know, social circles.
17:53
Speaker 1: He was like getting around, he was making connections, he
17:56
Speaker 1: brought people together, he was a middleman, he was all
17:58
Speaker 1: these other things too, right, This is why, like one
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Speaker 1: of the photos when I was was talking about was
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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. So like Michael Jackson, I'm pretty sure he's
18:08
Speaker 1: not guilty of any of the things that he was
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Speaker 1: accused of. And Razorfist made a really great couple of
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Speaker 1: videos about it. He's addressed it multiple times and did
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Speaker 1: a lot of research. And of course a lot of
18:18
Speaker 1: the people that were trying to destroy Michael Jackson's reputation
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Speaker 1: were using like you know, I guess like his eccentric
18:28
Speaker 1: ways of like you know, expressing himself or whatever like
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Speaker 1: what he was doing. But because he was denied a childhood,
18:33
Speaker 1: it's a whole thing that I think that deserves more
18:37
Speaker 1: sympathy than it gets. But he was also going after
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Speaker 1: the music industry for trying to steal people's intellectual property,
18:45
Speaker 1: and he became an enemy of the of the big
18:48
Speaker 1: music the record labels, and they were they there was collusion.
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Speaker 1: It was desire to see him ruined, and he was
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Speaker 1: essentially destroyed by them. And so now these photos come out,
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Speaker 1: and again I would say that it's likely that somebody
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Speaker 1: like Michael Jackson or even Trump, who you know. There's
19:09
Speaker 1: just a couple of pictures of him, and he's been
19:12
Speaker 1: on the on the plane, but according to the records,
19:17
Speaker 1: he has never been to the island. And when he
19:19
Speaker 1: used the plane it was to it was the same
19:21
Speaker 1: plane to go to different locations, and he had his
19:23
Speaker 1: family with him. So unless you think like he was
19:25
Speaker 1: bringing all of his kids to Epstein Island like, which
19:28
Speaker 1: is retarded, then you should realize it. It's not as
19:31
Speaker 1: simple as if you knew this guy, then it made
19:34
Speaker 1: you a bad person. It's sort of like, you know,
19:36
Speaker 1: I've been to like multiple ICMI's when we used to
19:39
Speaker 1: go to the ICMI, is right. So I went to
19:41
Speaker 1: Australia once, the UK twice. There was one in Chicago.
19:45
Speaker 1: If I went to if there was like somebody who
19:47
Speaker 1: was a regular that attended the ICMI, and I didn't
19:50
Speaker 1: know them very well, but I always saw them there,
19:52
Speaker 1: and like, you know, for whatever reason while we were there,
19:55
Speaker 1: we would get along, maybe we'd like have a drink
19:57
Speaker 1: together or something, and we took some pictures, and then
19:59
Speaker 1: later on came out that he was like you know,
20:02
Speaker 1: or she was like trafficking children, and they went into
20:06
Speaker 1: that person's history to find out any known accomplices or associations,
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Speaker 1: and there's pictures of me in there. It would be
20:13
Speaker 1: like putting that out there, right, And there was an
20:15
Speaker 1: attempt to do that. I don't know if you guys
20:17
Speaker 1: remember I don't want to get to like drama oriented.
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Speaker 1: But Lauren Southern when she made this big tell all
20:23
Speaker 1: video about like some experiences she had with some member
20:27
Speaker 1: of the MRM whose name was never given to us,
20:29
Speaker 1: and we don't know who it is, but she just
20:31
Speaker 1: made this claim that this happened and used it to
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Speaker 1: condemn all of us, is what I'm saying. Like, this
20:36
Speaker 1: is the stuff you have to be very careful of.
20:38
Speaker 1: So when he says, you know, I think there's a
20:43
Speaker 1: lot of innocent people that are going to have their
20:45
Speaker 1: lives ruined by this, I think that that's a really
20:48
Speaker 1: good point to make, especially again in this time post
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Speaker 1: me Too and everything else. Right, So it's tricky because
20:57
Speaker 1: we want justice for the victim, we want the people
21:01
Speaker 1: who are responsible to see time. But I do think
21:03
Speaker 1: that we have to be patient and we have to
21:06
Speaker 1: be very very vigilant and like you know, observing the
21:09
Speaker 1: evidence as it is and letting things move slowly. I
21:12
Speaker 1: think people they just want they just they want too
21:15
Speaker 1: much too soon, and I think that innocent people could
21:18
Speaker 1: end up, you know, essentially suffering. Probably already there's going
21:23
Speaker 1: to be some innocent people that are going to be
21:25
Speaker 1: suffering or there or you know, maybe post post martem right.
21:28
Speaker 1: So that's why I say, like, like, for example, another
21:31
Speaker 1: couple of guys that were in photos were magicians. I
21:35
Speaker 1: don't know, it's weird, right, but like David Copperfield and
21:38
Speaker 1: David Blaine were doing magic tricks on the island. Now
21:42
Speaker 1: they were there like with photos and everything. Now, does
21:45
Speaker 1: that mean that they were partaking. I don't know. I
21:48
Speaker 1: mean I assume if they're on the island, maybe I
21:50
Speaker 1: think that that's like more damning than like just being
21:53
Speaker 1: at a party and taking a picture with the guy.
21:55
Speaker 1: But if you're over there, that's a different thing. So
21:59
Speaker 1: all I'm saying is that I think this is something
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Speaker 1: that we should be like, don't get too excited about it.
22:06
Speaker 1: It's not going to happen overnight. And yeah, some things
22:10
Speaker 1: may not. We never see justice for some of these people.
22:13
Speaker 1: I mean, I still want that, but I don't know
22:15
Speaker 1: that that's going to happen, you know. And yeah, so
22:19
Speaker 1: I think that I can understand why Trump was concerned.
22:22
Speaker 1: And again a lot of lefties are thinking that he's
22:26
Speaker 1: just covering from himself. But again I'll just repeat that
22:29
Speaker 1: if he was, if he was actually partaking in any
22:33
Speaker 1: of the shit that like they're claiming he partook, partook it.
22:37
Speaker 1: And some people have tried to do this, like one
22:39
Speaker 1: woman on X and this comes back to like false allegations,
22:44
Speaker 1: which is why I chose this story. Ultimately, I wanted
22:47
Speaker 1: to talk about male victims because there's definitely young boys
22:51
Speaker 1: and men who were trafficked in this way, and the
22:53
Speaker 1: same way the girls were and no one talks about that.
22:56
Speaker 1: So I'm pointing that out because there's actual photo evidence
22:58
Speaker 1: of it. And the other thing is that this is
23:00
Speaker 1: being used as a bludgeon to destroy the lives of
23:04
Speaker 1: innocent people, or at least people who haven't been proven guilty.
23:08
Speaker 1: And I think that that's important that we don't get
23:10
Speaker 1: into that witch hunting mode and that that was so like,
23:14
Speaker 1: there was a one of the files was a report
23:18
Speaker 1: that was filed by an anonymous person that made the
23:21
Speaker 1: claim that Trump raped her and that Epstein helped. Okay,
23:26
Speaker 1: it was. It was part of the files because it
23:28
Speaker 1: was one of the things I was mentioned, but there
23:29
Speaker 1: was It was a claim not proven, made by an
23:33
Speaker 1: anonymous person. So people found that and they put it
23:37
Speaker 1: all over the internet saying, look, it happened. This is
23:39
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's like, that's there's nothing to substantiate that.
23:43
Speaker 1: And again, if it was true, we would have learned
23:46
Speaker 1: about it when the Dems were in office, like when
23:49
Speaker 1: Biden was in office. It would have it would have happened.
23:51
Speaker 1: Trump would have been in jail. They didn't do it
23:53
Speaker 1: because there's probably nothing there, but they'll use anything they
23:56
Speaker 1: can and it's not just a Trump thing. Let's leave
23:58
Speaker 1: that aside for a moment. It's the principle of like
24:02
Speaker 1: of you know, the importance of like using you know,
24:05
Speaker 1: not acting anything till you have evidence. And some people
24:08
Speaker 1: are just using this for destruction. So just I'm just
24:12
Speaker 1: laying out there. Definitely think about it.
24:17
Speaker 2: And yeah, the obvious joke with Michael Jackson is but
24:23
Speaker 2: he wasn't into teenage girls. Who was into young boys?
24:27
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that is He's an
24:31
Speaker 2: example of someone who has been thrown under the bus
24:35
Speaker 2: since thirty years ago, just like Trump has been thrown
24:38
Speaker 2: under the bus since ten years ago, to kind of
24:42
Speaker 2: to create this fog of war, to throw doubt and
24:51
Speaker 2: shade on anyone, to make sure we never actually hone
24:55
Speaker 2: in on the people who actually did these things, not
24:59
Speaker 2: just because they were blackmailed into it, but because they
25:02
Speaker 2: they they were fully on board with these things. Jacko
25:05
Speaker 2: was never on board with these things. No, Michael Jackson was.
25:08
Speaker 2: He was a sexual. Let's be honest. He didn't understand
25:12
Speaker 2: any of these things.
25:13
Speaker 1: He was, yeah, he was. He never got to grow
25:17
Speaker 1: up basically.
25:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what he did was criticized the Jews at
25:21
Speaker 2: one point, Robert Maxwell. Yes, he was indeed Jewish, and
25:27
Speaker 2: so it's not just that Jeffrey Epstein was Jewish, it's
25:29
Speaker 2: that Ghislain Maxwell was also Jewish. Now I'm not saying
25:33
Speaker 2: this means anything, because if I say this.
25:36
Speaker 1: Is you should never speak about I'll.
25:40
Speaker 2: Be noticing any patterns.
25:41
Speaker 1: Folks.
25:42
Speaker 2: There are patterns. There is only racism. I'm very sorry
25:46
Speaker 2: for being so racist. Nah, yeah, you stop it.
25:51
Speaker 1: But by the way, Mike is in Scotland. Are you
25:54
Speaker 1: have you seen your folks yet?
25:57
Speaker 2: Yeah? That's why I'm in Scotland.
25:59
Speaker 1: Are you? I don't know if you just Land or whatever.
26:02
Speaker 1: But how long does it take to get from where
26:06
Speaker 1: you are to Scotland?
26:09
Speaker 2: I told you that it would dox me slightly. Okay, Okay,
26:14
Speaker 2: I live in England and my my whole family lives
26:18
Speaker 2: in Scotland.
26:19
Speaker 1: But yeah, but you're English, not Scottish.
26:23
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a citizen of the UK. I'm part English,
26:28
Speaker 2: part Scottish, part Welsh partner.
26:30
Speaker 1: Ah, wow, you're cosmopolitan.
26:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm like Americans who have lived in
26:35
Speaker 2: various different states. You're still American and I'm I'm still
26:42
Speaker 2: I'm still I'm still UK like I don't have. I'm
26:45
Speaker 2: not a Northerner. I'm not a Southerner. I'm not Scottish, Welsh,
26:49
Speaker 2: or Irish or English. I'm all of the above. We're
26:52
Speaker 2: allowed to do that lean at least at least I am,
26:59
Speaker 2: because I'm obviously of these islands y as opposed to
27:05
Speaker 2: the people who are obviously not. You have the same
27:08
Speaker 2: problem over that, you know what I'm talking about, Yes, yes, all.
27:12
Speaker 1: Right, Well anyway with that said, though, I just want
27:15
Speaker 1: to point that out. If we get any like, you know,
27:17
Speaker 1: real crazy news, we'll probably follow up. But for now,
27:22
Speaker 1: these things are as they are, and I'm you know,
27:25
Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm not sad or or happy about it.
27:28
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like, Okay, yeah, we've had this
27:32
Speaker 1: kind of stuff for as long as there have been people,
27:35
Speaker 1: and it's a shame, all right, so let me see
27:37
Speaker 1: any people.
27:38
Speaker 2: I do think we can ever hold these people accountable
27:41
Speaker 2: for what they've done, Well, what we can do is
27:44
Speaker 2: make sure it doesn't happen again.
27:45
Speaker 1: Yes, I think maybe, well, I think that I think
27:50
Speaker 1: that I think it's possible. The Internet has definitely been
27:54
Speaker 1: a gift for as long as it remains somewhat free.
27:58
Speaker 1: But okay, let me greet more people in the chat
28:01
Speaker 1: and then we'll move on to the next story. Let
28:02
Speaker 1: us know what you guys think about this. One of
28:04
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28:27
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28:28
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28:33
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28:37
Speaker 1: the snorkeling. I believe that bong water Hello, slump is
28:42
Speaker 1: a pedo and we all know it. Okay, bring the receipts.
28:45
Speaker 1: J O'Bail says, Remember when a journalist from GQ brought
28:48
Speaker 1: a PDF to a men's rights conference and try and
28:50
Speaker 1: spooge the manosphere. Yes, I wasn't around for that, but
28:54
Speaker 1: I do remember that. This is what I'm talking about. Yes,
28:57
Speaker 1: that's a good point that you make. This is like
28:59
Speaker 1: how you engage agent reputational destruction, all right, and Matt
29:04
Speaker 1: Watton welcome. All right. So that said, let us move
29:07
Speaker 1: on to the next story. Okay, China. China wants more babies.
29:14
Speaker 1: After several failed attempts to increase its falling birth rate
29:19
Speaker 1: by offering incentives, China has decided to start using penalties
29:23
Speaker 1: starting next year. All condoms and contraceptives were we placed
29:27
Speaker 1: under a thirteen percent value added tax, which is a
29:30
Speaker 1: start change as these items were previously that free value
29:35
Speaker 1: added tax free for the last thirty years, so they're
29:37
Speaker 1: adding attax to condoms. This is just the latest development
29:41
Speaker 1: from the fallout that was China's disastrous one child policy,
29:45
Speaker 1: a policy that still haunts China's birth rate numbers. But
29:48
Speaker 1: it isn't all penalties. New tax breaks have been added
29:52
Speaker 1: for childcare and marriage introduction services. China has also set
29:56
Speaker 1: aside a twelve billion dollar pool which will see payments
29:59
Speaker 1: of roughly five hundred dollars to be handed out to
30:02
Speaker 1: anyone with children under three years of age per year.
30:05
Speaker 1: So you can get like five hundred bucks, I guess well,
30:09
Speaker 1: I mean it's roughly five hundred American dollars, so I
30:12
Speaker 1: don't know how many yeh yuan is that what do
30:14
Speaker 1: they call it in China? Is that the Chinese currency
30:18
Speaker 1: I think it's yuan of roughly five hundred dollars to
30:21
Speaker 1: be handed out to anyone with children under the age
30:23
Speaker 1: of three per year, as well as expanding their national
30:26
Speaker 1: health insurance to cover all childbirth related expenses. Unfortunately, these
30:31
Speaker 1: incentives have done little to move the needle with While
30:33
Speaker 1: the birth rate in twenty twenty four rows to six
30:36
Speaker 1: point seven seven per one thousand people, it is still
30:39
Speaker 1: far below normal levels. So no matter where you go,
30:45
Speaker 1: birth rates are plummeting. I think like in like some
30:47
Speaker 1: third world areas they're going up. But that's only because
30:51
Speaker 1: maybe in part because people are not expected to like
30:54
Speaker 1: you know, live to adulthood, so it's kind of reproducing
30:59
Speaker 1: like rabbits in the whole that the fittest will survive.
31:02
Speaker 1: But yeah, so China's going through it, and it is
31:04
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it is a part of that
31:07
Speaker 1: one child policy from back in miles days, and they're
31:11
Speaker 1: still trying to recover from that, despite you know, still
31:14
Speaker 1: having a pretty big population compared to the rest of
31:16
Speaker 1: the world. And there was something else I was gonna
31:19
Speaker 1: mention too. I learned this. There are Chinese elites, so
31:22
Speaker 1: you I don't know if you knew this. There are
31:24
Speaker 1: Chinese elites, so like really rich Chinese men who are
31:29
Speaker 1: coming to Western countries like the United States, and they
31:33
Speaker 1: are buying surrogate mothers for their children. So they're paying
31:39
Speaker 1: women to basically use IVF, so it's not even for sex.
31:45
Speaker 1: They use IVF and they're impregnating like twenty thirty women
31:51
Speaker 1: with IVF and they're having those babies in the States
31:55
Speaker 1: so they become dual citizens and then those kids will
31:59
Speaker 1: grow up and go back to China. And this is
32:03
Speaker 1: like supposedly to address the birth rate problem, but it's
32:07
Speaker 1: also kind of like a way that China can, you know,
32:12
Speaker 1: sort of change the United States. And it's another Western
32:16
Speaker 1: countries demographically. They're definitely doing this in Canada as well.
32:20
Speaker 1: If you've ever been to it's I'm sorry, I'm forgetting that,
32:25
Speaker 1: I'm blanking on the area, but Vancouver so like thet
32:30
Speaker 1: the western part of Canada, it's BC British Columbia. There
32:36
Speaker 1: are it's so Chinese there at this point that the
32:39
Speaker 1: signs are in Chinese and people just speak Chinese like
32:43
Speaker 1: it's turning into China, and it's because of the location,
32:47
Speaker 1: So people just go to British Columbia from China and
32:50
Speaker 1: Canada just lets him in. And I think the Prime
32:53
Speaker 1: Minister of Canada is basically like in Bedwashi anyways, But anyway,
32:59
Speaker 1: I'm digress. I'm just saying that it's weird what's going
33:02
Speaker 1: on there. But they're taxing condoms. So I don't know
33:06
Speaker 1: if you want to say anything about that, but.
33:08
Speaker 2: I repeat, help and I will repeat that once again. Welp.
33:15
Speaker 2: The people are escaping their own countries to go to
33:17
Speaker 2: other countries because their own countries are treating them like
33:21
Speaker 2: fucking trash. And yeah, this bullshit we're talking about in
33:26
Speaker 2: China is going to happen in the West. I mean,
33:29
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure condoms are already taxed over here in
33:34
Speaker 2: the generality of the West. I mean, everything is taxed
33:38
Speaker 2: over here, but now they're going to be taxed even more.
33:42
Speaker 2: Every time the Chinese government does something insanely, communists to
33:47
Speaker 2: once again line in its own pockets by punishing the people.
33:52
Speaker 2: Every time that happens, Western governments look at that shit
33:56
Speaker 2: and go, hell, yeah, that's genius. What if we puts
34:00
Speaker 2: the rich by making them pay more, while we punish
34:04
Speaker 2: the poor by making things unaffordable in one fell sweep,
34:09
Speaker 2: why didn't we think of that? Well, I guess we
34:12
Speaker 2: already did. But China is going to go even more communists,
34:17
Speaker 2: so now we have to go even more communists too.
34:21
Speaker 2: It's always the way. They get social credit score, so
34:26
Speaker 2: we get social credit score. They arrest people for criticizing
34:30
Speaker 2: government policies. We arrest people for criticizing government policies. They
34:36
Speaker 2: muzzle their people with pointless paranoid face diapers. We muzzle
34:42
Speaker 2: our people with pointless paranoid face diapers. They slaughter innocent
34:47
Speaker 2: people using tanks and bullets, and then they ban everyone
34:52
Speaker 2: from mentioning it. We slaughter innocent people using mandatory biochemical
34:59
Speaker 2: warfare and then ban everyone from mentioning it. The only
35:05
Speaker 2: thing we're not doing is putting the local Muslims in
35:09
Speaker 2: concentration camps. But that's because, I mean, how the fuck
35:14
Speaker 2: is that supposed to help us control and torture our
35:16
Speaker 2: own native people? Sorry?
35:19
Speaker 1: Not interested?
35:20
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's that's all this is. Taxing contraception and
35:27
Speaker 2: subsidizing childbirth is not going to improve your population stock.
35:34
Speaker 2: It might make the numbers go up, but only among
35:38
Speaker 2: the desperate degenerate class. People who can afford to raise children,
35:45
Speaker 2: who can afford to give them a stable upbringing, are
35:49
Speaker 2: not going to give a shit about a thirteen percent
35:52
Speaker 2: tax on condoms or a five hundred dollars bonus. But
35:58
Speaker 2: it might make more impulsive poor people have less protected
36:05
Speaker 2: sex and more unprotected sex, leading not to a surplus
36:09
Speaker 2: of the wanted, but to a sewage outflow of the unwanted.
36:17
Speaker 2: All this can possibly do is create more teen pregnancies,
36:22
Speaker 2: more trailer park octomons, more high rise mann deserts, and
36:29
Speaker 2: more urban backwater criminal spawning machines. This is the problem
36:37
Speaker 2: with communists. They don't understand the difference between quality and quantity,
36:42
Speaker 2: or at least they don't understand that quality is necessarily
36:46
Speaker 2: good and that quantity is not necessarily good. But quantity
36:53
Speaker 2: is easy. Quantity is easily measurable. Number go up. Fucking
37:00
Speaker 2: job done, That's all they understand. If you think you're
37:04
Speaker 2: going to improve anything by having the government continue to
37:08
Speaker 2: reward women for being mothers while it punishes men for
37:13
Speaker 2: being fathers by stealing from men to pay women, then
37:22
Speaker 2: you is dripping dog. I believe that's how that was pronounced.
37:29
Speaker 2: Far too many women are more than happy to have
37:33
Speaker 2: the government act as their sugar daddy while they exile
37:38
Speaker 2: the men from their lives and raise their fucking terror
37:41
Speaker 2: away spawn by themselves. Men. On quite the other hand,
37:46
Speaker 2: I'm more than happy to allow women to have a
37:50
Speaker 2: hand in raising their children as long as they can,
37:53
Speaker 2: as long as those men can go to work and
37:56
Speaker 2: not have their wages stolen by the government. This is
38:00
Speaker 2: how it has always worked. Men will gladly reward women,
38:05
Speaker 2: the women in their lives, for raising the children they
38:09
Speaker 2: have together. If you leave men and women to their
38:12
Speaker 2: own devices, this is what will happen. Men will reward women,
38:19
Speaker 2: and I dare I say women will reward men for
38:25
Speaker 2: rewarding them. Whah. I notice no one ever suggests that
38:31
Speaker 2: the government should be paying men to be fathers without
38:36
Speaker 2: paying women to be mothers, even though that actually might help,
38:43
Speaker 2: that might actually accelerate the natural process if men had
38:49
Speaker 2: even more incentive to work hard for their family without
38:52
Speaker 2: anyone skimming the spoils of their hard work, and if
38:57
Speaker 2: women weren't getting any sub that is except from the
39:02
Speaker 2: men who love them and the men who want to
39:05
Speaker 2: raise their children that might actually have the results you're
39:08
Speaker 2: looking for, that would actually foster quality families. And once
39:17
Speaker 2: you have that, once you have quality families, the quantity
39:21
Speaker 2: will sort itself out. Happy families who stay together and
39:26
Speaker 2: can afford families will gladly pump out a dozen children,
39:30
Speaker 2: and you'll get exactly what you're looking for. But to
39:34
Speaker 2: be clear, I'm not suggesting this either. I don't think
39:37
Speaker 2: the government should be subsidizing in fathers either. I just
39:42
Speaker 2: want the government to stop punishing fathers, to stop stealing
39:50
Speaker 2: from men that would have exactly the desired effect I'm
39:54
Speaker 2: talking about. You don't need to incentivize men, you just
39:57
Speaker 2: need to stop incentivizing them. But for some reason, no
40:04
Speaker 2: government can figure this out. There doesn't appear to be
40:08
Speaker 2: a government in the world that can so much as
40:10
Speaker 2: countenance the notion that if you just leave men to
40:14
Speaker 2: their own devices, they will run their families like a
40:18
Speaker 2: well oiled machine, they will run their companies like a
40:22
Speaker 2: well oiled machine, and they will even run their countries
40:26
Speaker 2: like a well oiled machine. I'm not saying that women
40:31
Speaker 2: are the only problem, and I'm not saying that governments
40:36
Speaker 2: are the only problem. But when you put them together
40:41
Speaker 2: women and governments. You get a chemical reaction that can
40:46
Speaker 2: dissolve everything within one hundred mile radius, where fucking thousand
40:51
Speaker 2: mile radius is like acids and bases, it's like sodium
40:55
Speaker 2: and water. It's like fishionable material and high pressure. I
41:02
Speaker 2: don't know to what degree this reaction is natural. I
41:06
Speaker 2: don't know to what degree it has simply been gradually
41:09
Speaker 2: harnessed as a doomsday device. All I know is what
41:14
Speaker 2: everyone can see. You can have one or you can
41:19
Speaker 2: have the other. You can't have both. You can't have
41:22
Speaker 2: women and government. And as accustomed as I am to
41:27
Speaker 2: saying this, I think women are pretty much essential. Technology
41:35
Speaker 2: has a long way to go before women are no
41:37
Speaker 2: longer essential.
41:38
Speaker 1: And we have.
41:40
Speaker 2: I can out of visual woos. We're talking the year
41:47
Speaker 2: forty thousand with the warhammer and whatnot. That's not the
41:51
Speaker 2: ideal scenario, especially not for any ladies listening, and that
41:56
Speaker 2: leads us with the obvious conclusion government is not essential.
42:04
Speaker 2: It's it's a machine that was invented fairly recently, and
42:09
Speaker 2: ever since its inception it has been chemically reacting with
42:16
Speaker 2: the volatile nature of women to e fves uncontrollably and
42:23
Speaker 2: make a wasteland of everything. So let me say, let
42:29
Speaker 2: me say what should have been said all along. Interesting
42:36
Speaker 2: idea China counter proposal, Shrink the fucking government. There can
42:46
Speaker 2: be productive reasons for mixing acids and bases of mixed
42:53
Speaker 2: exodium with water, but you need to wind your fucking
42:57
Speaker 2: necking reduce the power of government to its most microscopic nucleus.
43:07
Speaker 2: If we do that, we will notice women being no
43:10
Speaker 2: problem at all and we will not need to change
43:14
Speaker 2: anything about them. Bizarre idea. I know, maybe women never
43:21
Speaker 2: needed to change, Maybe men never needed to change. Maybe
43:27
Speaker 2: the fucked up machine that descended upon us all was
43:32
Speaker 2: the thing that never needed to exist. And with that
43:38
Speaker 2: food for thought, I yield.
43:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like China is just going to well,
43:54
Speaker 1: they're just gonna keep making things worse. You cannot solve
43:58
Speaker 1: social problems with government solutions, and I don't know why
44:04
Speaker 1: people keep insisting on it. And it's like everything that
44:07
Speaker 1: I see people complaining about with regards to you know,
44:12
Speaker 1: their governments, they or like foreign governments whatever, it always
44:17
Speaker 1: is them saying why doesn't the government do something? The
44:19
Speaker 1: government shouldn't be doing anything, guys at the very but
44:23
Speaker 1: the one thing they could do is get out of
44:24
Speaker 1: the way so that people can figure it out, you
44:27
Speaker 1: know that that's it, like stop, But they're not going
44:29
Speaker 1: to because the governments have a they're on a power trip.
44:34
Speaker 1: They think that they can you know, just make a
44:37
Speaker 1: new program, create a new ministry, put in some new legislation,
44:41
Speaker 1: and then people will just you know, fall in line
44:43
Speaker 1: or they'll get the message. It just doesn't work that way.
44:46
Speaker 1: All you're going to do is probably the men are
44:49
Speaker 1: going to be pickier about who they sleep with, and
44:53
Speaker 1: the women even more so. I mean, and I think
44:56
Speaker 1: the women in China. I was I was trying to
44:59
Speaker 1: find it because so there isn't a lot of information
45:01
Speaker 1: in China, but my guess is that Chinese women are
45:04
Speaker 1: just as hypergamists, of not more hypergamist than women in
45:07
Speaker 1: the West, at least as much as they are in
45:09
Speaker 1: like South Korea, so which is pretty freaking high, except
45:14
Speaker 1: that you know the the because like, culturally they're not
45:19
Speaker 1: that dissimilar, but government wise, China's definitely more you know,
45:26
Speaker 1: in line with totalitarianism, probably not as much as like
45:30
Speaker 1: say North Korea is, but they're not far off, and
45:33
Speaker 1: they're definitely like you know, a godless but morally vacant country.
45:39
Speaker 1: But but I think that it's it. You just don't
45:43
Speaker 1: solve these problems this way, and they're just gonna things
45:45
Speaker 1: are just going to continue to get worse for them.
45:48
Speaker 1: And that's why I think that we that's why they're
45:51
Speaker 1: trying to, like, you know, move over here and spread
45:55
Speaker 1: this way, because we allow them to. So I don't know,
45:59
Speaker 1: we'll see how that go. But I think it's interesting
46:02
Speaker 1: that the solution to the birth rate is tax the men,
46:07
Speaker 1: because that's what that means. Right. They could just ban
46:10
Speaker 1: birth control. I mean, I don't know that that's like
46:12
Speaker 1: a good thing, but I mean they could do that,
46:14
Speaker 1: but they don't even think to do that. No, No, we'll
46:15
Speaker 1: just tax the men and then we'll give money to
46:18
Speaker 1: people who have kids. So I don't know. Let me
46:21
Speaker 1: know what you guys think about this one. In the comments,
46:24
Speaker 1: I got some super chats to read through. Thank you
46:26
Speaker 1: so much. Zaranks for five. He says everyone tries to
46:29
Speaker 1: use government to correct the birth rate issue, and they
46:31
Speaker 1: never realize that government is the problem rather than the fix. Yes,
46:35
Speaker 1: that's just what I just said. Suck Duck five nine
46:39
Speaker 1: one five says ancient Greek harvested a plant to extinction
46:43
Speaker 1: to have free zex. Nothing short of a full and
46:46
Speaker 1: severe ban will stop this. Hmmm, of course the Greeks
46:50
Speaker 1: would do that. Novafan twenty one gives a rumble rant
46:56
Speaker 1: for a dollar and says what Brian says about China
46:58
Speaker 1: aren't and Canada seems to line up with what I've noticed.
47:01
Speaker 1: Quite a few YouTubers are not only Asian, but also
47:04
Speaker 1: from Canada and often Chinese. Yes. Richard Bierre gives us
47:08
Speaker 1: five dollars super Chow and says I didn't have China
47:11
Speaker 1: going full Handmaid's Tale on my bingo card. Well, not
47:13
Speaker 1: quite yet, but they certainly could. I don't think China
47:17
Speaker 1: has major issues with trying to go there, because I
47:21
Speaker 1: know that they have like things like, you know, sex trafficking, sex,
47:24
Speaker 1: slavery and stuff like that. There was that woman, I
47:28
Speaker 1: can't remember her name right now. It's like something Park,
47:31
Speaker 1: of course, and she is a She fleed North Korea
47:37
Speaker 1: and got into South Korea and then like to China,
47:41
Speaker 1: and I think when she was living in China for
47:43
Speaker 1: a while she thought it was like a lot better,
47:45
Speaker 1: but compared to the United States, it was way worse.
47:48
Speaker 1: But it was a lot better than North Korea, just
47:50
Speaker 1: to give you an idea how bad North Korea is.
47:51
Speaker 1: According to her, Sun Ye Park I think is her name,
47:55
Speaker 1: and she said that she was sold into like a
48:00
Speaker 1: kind of like a sex slavery ring in China. So
48:04
Speaker 1: I get they had that stuff there, So I guess what,
48:06
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be that much more to just be like, hey,
48:08
Speaker 1: how about we just you know, make women have babies.
48:11
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely think that they would go there.
48:13
Speaker 1: I don't think they have a problem with it, Okay,
48:16
Speaker 1: And then Sucker Duck Suck Duck five to nine says
48:20
Speaker 1: for two dollars, government's purpose is efficient organized division of labor,
48:27
Speaker 1: don't I don't. I don't think that it ever comes
48:29
Speaker 1: out that way. But you go ahead and think that
48:31
Speaker 1: if you want to. That's fine, all right. So with
48:34
Speaker 1: that said, let's know what you guys think about this
48:35
Speaker 1: one in the comments. We're gonna move on to the
48:39
Speaker 1: last story. I only did three, so keep it short,
48:43
Speaker 1: all right. So this one's really interesting. A lawsuit filed
48:47
Speaker 1: in Moltnomah County Circuit Court in Oregon challenges the state's
48:52
Speaker 1: laws that prohibit female genital cutting while permitting male circumcision,
48:57
Speaker 1: arguing that this disparity discriminates against boy and violates the
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Speaker 1: state's constitution, the state Constitution's Equal Rights Amendment and Equal
49:05
Speaker 1: Protection Clause. The plaintiffs include a father and son circumcised
49:09
Speaker 1: decades apart, along with two brothers circumcised as infants, represented
49:13
Speaker 1: by attorneys Eric Klopper and Lake Paraguay, if I'm pronouncing
49:17
Speaker 1: that correctly, They contend that male circumcision lacks medical necessity,
49:22
Speaker 1: offers no proven health benefits, and can impair sexual function,
49:25
Speaker 1: with Paraguay describing the practice as barbaric and strange for
49:29
Speaker 1: non consenting children infants. Really, the suit seeks to either
49:34
Speaker 1: extend the ban on genital cutting to all children, regardless
49:37
Speaker 1: of gender, or strike down the female general cutting prohibition entirely,
49:44
Speaker 1: though the latter would not override federal bands on female procedures.
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Speaker 1: Circumcision rates have declined in the US, particularly in Western
49:51
Speaker 1: states like Oregon, and while the American Academy of Pediatrics
49:54
Speaker 1: has stated benefits outweigh the risks, it does not recommend
49:57
Speaker 1: routine circumcision, a position criticized by some European medical groups
50:01
Speaker 1: for cultural bias. The lawsuit described as part of a
50:05
Speaker 1: broader multi state effort highlights issues of children's bodily autonomy
50:08
Speaker 1: and equal protection under the law. And yes, there are activists,
50:13
Speaker 1: let's say, e moms and rabbis that are claiming this
50:18
Speaker 1: is you know, with boys in particular, because they're using
50:21
Speaker 1: this these they're trying to basically say, look, if you
50:24
Speaker 1: guys are going to ban the circumcision of girls, you
50:26
Speaker 1: should ban the circumcision of boys. Makes perfect sense. This
50:30
Speaker 1: has to happen. But as usual, whenever you start to
50:34
Speaker 1: get close to even having a discussion around that, yeah,
50:39
Speaker 1: you get like these you know, rabbis and e moms.
50:44
Speaker 1: But we don't have a lot of like a significant
50:48
Speaker 1: proportion or population of Muslims in the United States. Not
50:52
Speaker 1: not like you guys have in Western Europe, but we
50:55
Speaker 1: do have some, like in Minnesota, for example, it's like
50:58
Speaker 1: a big number of Muslims. But yeah, mostly it's the
51:02
Speaker 1: Mostly it's the Jews that don't like the circumcision being banned.
51:05
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying that's what's happening. We knew this forever,
51:11
Speaker 1: you know.
51:12
Speaker 2: I'm not discouting the Jews. I put it all in
51:15
Speaker 2: the realm of the Semites. Yeah, and that includes all
51:19
Speaker 2: of these regions. This is another one of those situations
51:26
Speaker 2: where we're having to go up against quote unquote the
51:29
Speaker 2: science TM and yes, it's the same bullshit the women's
51:36
Speaker 2: rights advocates have to go up against when they're bashing
51:39
Speaker 2: their heads against the psychotic traditions of North Africa and
51:43
Speaker 2: the Middle East where the Semites hail from. It's not
51:50
Speaker 2: even necessarily Africa and the Middle East. It's a scant
51:54
Speaker 2: few tribal idiots in North Africa and the Middle East.
51:59
Speaker 2: They think they're solving a problem. They think they're addressing
52:03
Speaker 2: all manner of problems by amputating various parts of women's
52:08
Speaker 2: genitals to various degrees. And it's so easy to debunk
52:13
Speaker 2: their so called science. At least it seems easy until
52:18
Speaker 2: you take these grievances to the people committing them, the
52:23
Speaker 2: tribes committing them in these parts of the world. They'll
52:27
Speaker 2: go ahead and tell you, no, these incisions are actually
52:31
Speaker 2: having positive effects. These patients don't get as many grievances
52:38
Speaker 2: as they would have you believe. Yeah, and then you'll
52:44
Speaker 2: be left having to prove a negative. You'll have to
52:46
Speaker 2: prove that the various pieces of bullshit. They're presenting as
52:50
Speaker 2: a null positive are in fact an active negative.
52:55
Speaker 1: Good luck with that.
52:56
Speaker 2: Please do indulge in that, and then come back to
52:59
Speaker 2: the way and see how you get on trying to
53:02
Speaker 2: tell the psychotic butchers we have here that what they're
53:06
Speaker 2: doing to male babies bodies is not necessarily positive. I
53:14
Speaker 2: think what I'm saying is we're not getting anywhere trying
53:17
Speaker 2: to tell people that male genital mutilation is the best
53:21
Speaker 2: fruitless and at worst evil. So maybe we should present
53:24
Speaker 2: the notion that female genital mutilation is just as viable
53:29
Speaker 2: as the male kind, and maybe when we are presented
53:33
Speaker 2: with the arguments for it, we can present all of
53:35
Speaker 2: this as a bullwark against the hypocrisy that has kept
53:40
Speaker 2: this barbarism going for so long. But that's pie in
53:44
Speaker 2: the sky at best. It's been made very clear quite
53:49
Speaker 2: recently that we have to just submit to what we
53:54
Speaker 2: call the science, which means, fuck you. Evidence doesn't matter,
54:02
Speaker 2: death and pain doesn't matter. What we as the ruling
54:08
Speaker 2: class want to do to you is the only thing
54:11
Speaker 2: that matters. Best of luck with that, and hi there
54:20
Speaker 2: reply guy, do your worst.
54:24
Speaker 1: H Well, you know we've been saying here for a
54:29
Speaker 1: long time. The only way that we're going to see
54:33
Speaker 1: circumcision get observed or overturned is when it affects girls,
54:41
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna have a conversation about banning it.
54:44
Speaker 1: And that's the only way that boys have a chance
54:46
Speaker 1: of getting a banned. Unfortunately, I mean granted, at least
54:49
Speaker 1: in the States, it's not mandatory, and I think it
54:54
Speaker 1: is overall being done less because information is getting out there,
54:59
Speaker 1: but it is Unfortunately, that's the only way I think
55:02
Speaker 1: this is gonna happen. It's either gonna be from the
55:04
Speaker 1: bottom up or it's going to be done. When you
55:10
Speaker 1: ban female genital mutilation, then you'll get the male genital
55:15
Speaker 1: mutilation as well. So but yeah, I hope that they
55:21
Speaker 1: I hope that this continues and will follow up when
55:24
Speaker 1: we learn more on that. Let me know what you
55:26
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55:30
Speaker 1: just double check be try to miss anything. All right, Well,
55:33
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55:50
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56:11
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56:29
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